WEBVTT - 11-13-25 Scott Sloan Show 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.400 Do you want to be an American idiot? 0:00:03.279 --> 0:00:05.000 Welcome to We got lots going on this morning in 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:07.360 scotslone show on seven hundred w welw. 0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:09.239 I don't have to tell you. 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:12.479 The government's reopened and we've got Epstein files to talk about. 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:15.000 In just so much more, a little closer to home, 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:18.680 Cincinnati proposing a stricter nine to five curfew for miners 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:20.840 under eighteen on short Fine. We're talking about this yesterday 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:24.160 with other council members, so short Finding, you see, and 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:26.360 it's gonna be a think between Daniel Street and Corey 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:29.960 and it moved out of committee and now Consul's a 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:31.880 whole vote for this thing. And so the idea is 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:34.720 we have crime that since they've been cracking down on 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:39.080 Fountain Square in downtown and OTR that we're seeing juveniles 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:41.920 in particular move towards short Vine. And of course we 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:43.640 had a fifteen year old charge with murder in April. 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:45.800 Remember the shooting outside of the liquor store Halloween weekend. 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:48.720 There was gunfly fire. A bunch of tons of UC 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:52.280 students out there in costume enjoying the fun of Halloween 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:55.240 weekend that was upset by gunfire. Fortunately, no one was 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:58.120 struck there and so we're going to try another curfew 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:01.360 here of many curfews. She is counselmber re elect. Mika 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:04.440 Owhen's joining the show this morning on seven hundred WW Mika, 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:06.400 welcome back and congratulations. 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:08.240 By the way, thank you, Scott. 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:13.080 I am very happy to do that your listeners and 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:16.920 the voters of this city and trusting me to get 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:19.399 back to work in the city Hall. There's so much 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:21.840 for us to do. Safety is at the top of 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:24.520 the list, uh, you know, and no one moves to 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:27.720 a city where they don't feel safe until it's important 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:31.280 that we make sure that every single neighborhood feels that way. 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:35.040 So building more housing, transportations, so many things for us 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:35.720 to accomplish. 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:37.520 Were you surprised do you finish third? 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:39.920 Overall? 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:42.240 You know, I never take anything for granted. You know, 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:45.160 you run a race, and you run at this it's 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:48.840 your first time running, and so I am just grateful 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:53.880 that again, folks, you know, decided that the work that 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:57.240 I've been doing is valuable to moving this city forward. 0:01:57.800 --> 0:01:59.520 And at the end of the day, you know, it's 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:03.720 like the placement is great, but for voters to say yes, 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:07.600 I want you to represent me, represents the city at large. 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:11.280 That is a huge responsibility, and so it's really about 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:12.839 getting back and doing their work. 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:13.639 Good, good, good. 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:16.480 I want to name recognition obviously, but finishing third and 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:19.639 ahead of another bunch of other prominent Democrats is pretty 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.519 big final point on the election because this is obviously 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:25.680 concerning as well. We know that the Charter Rights three 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:28.440 is a Democratic sweep on council. Democrats had a great 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:32.000 night like yourself on Tuesday election night, but relative to 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:33.880 the Charter Rights who made a lot of noise, and 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:35.960 I think they made some really strong arguments about getting 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:40.320 serious about public safety. And even though they didn't place 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:42.240 and it was a sweep, do you still listen to 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:44.240 that and go, well, you know what, there's a lot 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:46.880 of animosity here and we've handled things poorly relative to 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:48.639 crime here in Cincinnati. 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:50.560 Do you get a message from the voters on that, 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:51.480 you know? 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:55.560 I would say the voters have entrusted and have looked 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:58.320 to the city's budget to understand that we are investing 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:02.400 in public safety and it's a continual investment, and so 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:06.239 I think voters see that we are taking that seriously 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:09.840 and crime. Getting a handle on crime takes a lot 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:15.200 of components, one of which your CPD you know, environment improves, 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:20.560 improved communities, investments in communities, young people having opportunities. These 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:24.680 are all factors. But certainly the way that we respond 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:28.640 and give the resources to CPD uh and the laws 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:31.919 and policies that we would create around that are also 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:33.119 very very important. 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:36.080 Yeah, and then that's the outlart too, is we have 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:38.600 to wait for all these police recruits and classes to 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:40.680 come to fruition before we see the fruits of that. 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:43.640 So it's going to be a while before all this happens, 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:45.920 and we're still going to have, sadly some crime going on. 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:47.280 I mentioned what's going in and around you. 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:50.800 Ce Mika Owens, one of the people who were interviewed 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:52.680 out there, said, hey, listen, now we put a curfew 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:55.280 up here, the crowd comes up, Well, they'll just move 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:58.119 somewhere else. Are we just playing like whack a mole 0:03:58.200 --> 0:03:59.160 with this problem? 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:02.240 You know, I don't think we're playing black them all. 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:06.080 I think we're being very responsive. And certainly, again, you know, 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:10.400 you apply the resources where you see there might be problems, 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:12.560 and at the end of the day, and it's so 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:16.480 important that our young people feel safe. Those that are 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:20.160 you know, going to uce to to further their education. 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:24.440 No one should live in an environment where gunshots become 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:28.160 the norm, and so it's it's all hands on deck. 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:31.400 You know, we're knowing that that folks are stilling done 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.800 out of vehicles, and so it's important that people keep 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:39.919 their firearms stored properly in the city of Cincinnati, including 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:43.080 in your home in the car. So it's you know, 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:46.279 it's something that we're not taking our foot off the deack. 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:48.680 Well not only that, I mean, let's talk about this 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:52.039 from a consumer spurtsvactive here. We know the trouble that 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:54.240 colleges are going through. The bubble feels like it is 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:57.599 deflating and sometimes rapidly the value of a college degree 0:04:57.680 --> 0:04:59.720 for what you pay for worse as you get that's 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:04.239 a can But as we have fewer students and schools, 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.480 some schools going out of business, let's put it that way. 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:08.440 We're seeing that across the country, if not in Ohio. 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:10.719 Now we all of a sudden, you know, we have 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:13.120 schools that are vying, going to be vying shortly for 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:16.479 kids to come there. If crime is a huge factor 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:19.720 in and around universus Cincinnati, does that hurt enrollment. Is 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:22.440 that a concern of the administration you see be the city. 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:27.279 Well, I'm not talked directly to see it administration, but 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:32.240 certainly if you know any time that again, people perception 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:36.200 of safety is not one that is positive. And certainly 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:39.160 people will make decisions on where they go, where they 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:42.000 invest their money, where they send their young people to school, 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:45.919 and so absolutely from not only a community perspective, but 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:49.320 from a talent perspective as well. And so when we 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:52.039 as not only a state but a city, are competing 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:55.880 with other places, it's important that you know, young people 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:59.000 feel like they can come to Cincinnati, get an education, 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:01.679 and ultimately stay here as well. 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:03.240 Yeah, Mika Owens. 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:05.000 With the problems you have with this, of course, is 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:07.280 that this is going to crack down on teenagers, those 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:09.760 under eighteen and short vindor you see from nine to 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:12.560 five it's gonna be nine to five curfew. Other In fact, 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:14.480 we have all these staggered curf kind of like parking. 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:16.400 You know, the different parking zones across the city. I 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:18.120 can figure that with an app but in one area, 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:20.240 I can be eighteen and it's eleven o'clock here, it's 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:23.200 nine o'clock here, it's a that can be kind of 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:26.400 confusing relative to enforcement. But the more important element is 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:29.400 the fact that you're now restricting eighteen year olds around 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:31.000 a whole bunch of other eighteen year olds are going 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:33.200 to be there, the bulk of those go to UC 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:35.159 or any college for that matter, and the eighteen to 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:37.280 twenty year old range. How do you discern the people 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.040 who should be there versus the ones that should no? 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:42.880 Or does this simply stop people from going out after 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:45.760 nine o'clock in a college campus and generally going to school? 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:47.640 Myself, I remember the days, you know. 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:50.280 You'd stay up till three, four, five o'clock in the 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:53.080 morning sometimes because the way your body clock works. How 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:54.880 is that going to work with these students that are 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:57.560 out spending money and joining their lives versus those who 0:06:57.560 --> 0:06:58.279 shouldn't be there. 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:01.200 Yeah, certainly, I think this is going to be something 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:04.080 that CPD and you see are going to have to 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:08.360 work out through our shirt MoU. But ultimately, again, it's 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:11.200 about making this environment safe, which, by the way, I'm 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:13.800 sure you're aware that you know, Chief Isaac, the chief 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:17.679 of UC suggested that this was a good step forward 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:19.600 as well, and so you know, we're taking in all 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:22.040 of the information and data, and you know, the city 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:26.760 the administration is not making just decisions and silos. But 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.720 you know, listening to CPD is important in this as well. 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:34.120 But ultimately, you know this is going to take business owners. 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:39.560 You see CPD young people communication to make sure that 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:42.200 people are safe, but also making sure that there are 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:44.760 no unintended consequences. And you know, as it relates to 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:48.200 business owners, I too, you know I went to Miami 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:50.640 and so uptown, yes was that place that you you 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:53.800 went on on the weekends and patronized businesses And so 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:56.960 ultimately we want to make sure that our businesses are 0:07:56.960 --> 0:08:00.760 not suffering. And so this will again be the continued 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:03.960 part of the conversation. And I certainly am invested in 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:07.320 working with the administration on these things, including our food 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:11.720 trucks right, making sure that food trucks even looking at 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:14.080 you know, where they might be able to be so 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:18.800 that they can continue to gain business and people, you know, 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:21.280 will patronize our small businesses. 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:23.480 Do you agree with the eleven o'clock food truck band? 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:29.240 Again, I think it was a response to what the 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:34.280 administration and TGD saw with the fight that happened. You know, 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:37.320 people congregating at three o'clock in the morning around food 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:40.680 trucks is not the best idea, and so I think 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:45.920 having something that is more consistent, something that also helps 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:50.160 to create more of an economic, you know, development opportunity. 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:53.920 When we think about food trucks that want are certified, 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:57.079 you have the health certification, you're doing all the right things, 0:08:57.200 --> 0:09:00.640 you have a place to do business, and the city 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:03.000 is creating a foundation for that. I think these are 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:05.720 all things that are part of the tools and so 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:09.000 again I think what's important is that we're not doing 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:12.200 these things blanketly, but also making sure that we are 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:16.080 coming back and reviewing what are any unintended consequences and 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:17.959 how might we create solutions around that. 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:19.000 I'll be honest with the MECO. 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:21.120 And it feels punitive to me as a business owner 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:24.520 in that, you know, I'm out there selling a product 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:26.640 to people I don't know their background. I had a 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:28.720 new background checks when somebody buys a hot dog, nor 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:32.000 should you. And then because of some few bad actors, 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:33.960 I have to shut down eleven o'clock when I could 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:36.000 be making pretty good money. And let's face it, I 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:39.000 don't know what the options are. Clifton at midnight or 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:40.720 one o'clock or two o'clock in the morning when the 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:43.600 bar's closed. But I know, as you went to Miami, 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:46.320 there's a lot of windows, says, food trucks up there now, 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:48.880 robots and everything else. And so you know, you can 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.120 get food on the campus of Miami. That's a little 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:53.360 different that you see. But the point is there's a 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:55.640 market there for that, and someone created a business and 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:57.720 models satisfy that. It's kind of like going, hey, you 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:00.400 know what, we had a problem with people stealing cars, 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:02.840 are driving the recklessly on the street to downtown Cincinnati, 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:04.760 which we see all the time now with the sheriff 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:07.000 or the State Highway Patrol helicopters. 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:08.720 You know what we're gonna do. We're having a curfew now. 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:10.680 You can't drive on the streets after eleven o'clock because 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:12.000 some people are driving too fast. 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:13.040 Isn't it the same thing? 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:19.320 Yeah, well, you know, I certainly hear that from members 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:22.760 of the community, and so I think our best response 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:26.319 right now is to one create an environment that build states, 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:30.520 you know, create a baseline for even understanding the economic 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:34.920 impacts to our small businesses, our food trucks specifically, and 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:38.280 so by way of you know, really creating an environment 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:42.160 where we know where people are, you know, how to 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:45.000 get a spot. All of those things help to really 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:49.040 shape an environment that's probably an improvement and where we 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:52.600 are now. But again, I am very committed to working 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:56.400 with the administration to make sure that their solutions rather 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:59.840 than you know, people thinking they are obstacles or cogencies. 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:03.480 So it is something that I again I am hearing 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:05.719 and it's something that is a priority for me. 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:06.760 To follow up on. 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:09.839 Council memory Colt Lock Mika Owens on the show on 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:14.040 seven hundred WLWN talking about the curfew proposal. Downtown Law 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:16.439 and Public Safety voted on this. It moved out of 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:18.840 committee to Council as a whole. Now they'll vote equal, 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:21.440 will vote on this shortly to propose as a nine 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:24.000 to five curfew on short find. You see, because of 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:25.679 the problems they had there, we saw some of the 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:29.079 violent crime move from Fountain Square OTR and downtown to 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:32.079 Clifton and that's a no go because we saw what 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:35.520 happened on Halloween. We saw a fatal shooting back in April, 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:37.880 and it's not good when you have college students around 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:39.640 and you know, mom and dad foot the bill or 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:42.040 you're you're taking out a lot of money for college education. 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:44.880 Public safety at this level should not be concerned, and 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:47.920 yet it is because of the nature of the urban campus. 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:50.079 And we're talking about that vote coming up here on 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:53.679 the show on seven hundred WLW. Back to the curfew itself, 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:56.080 because we had the curfews downtown, o city wide curfew, 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:59.319 the curfew of the banks. We've got this curfew you 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:01.640 have the same time. We've been doing this since what August, 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:04.400 So it's a fairly okay sample size, I think, and 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:07.439 now that summer is over. But we have the curfew 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:09.760 centers where we'll take teams and drop them off, and 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:12.760 there's only been four teams taken the queue for curfew 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:15.520 centers downtown. Is that because do you think the terms 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:18.080 is working or is it simply because it's under enforced. 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:22.240 I think it's working, and so which is a good thing. 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:24.760 We certainly don't want to see a curf youth center 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:27.640 filled with young people, and so I think people are 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:31.600 being compliant and that is what that is what's important here. 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:35.600 And so you know again and the curfew center being 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:38.920 a place that if one has to go there there 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:43.480 are services and support systems that that will help to 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:46.320 not only get people to young people to back home, 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:51.600 but also additional resources that maybe needed. So I think 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:55.400 we're turning in a good direction right now, and again 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:57.920 I think that's because of the partners that have helped 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:03.599 to communicate her few boundaries and expectations, and so I 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:06.400 think we'll have to continue to do that and continue 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:09.800 to again and monitor what is the success and products 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:10.640 that we're making here. 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:14.199 I'll point out, Mika that if you go back to 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:16.800 one of the two big events, the shooting and the 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:19.640 gun play over Halloween weekend, but the one in April 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:21.439 or the fifteen year old charged with murdering I think 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:24.360 the man name is Kyle Merrick, and a horrific crime 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:26.720 at that. If you witness the street crime, it's absolutely 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:30.040 depraved that at the time of day that happened that 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:33.559 wouldn't have been prevented by a curfew. So is this 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:36.079 a time of day issue or is this more of 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:38.640 a youth violence issue, And if so, that's greater than 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:39.120 a curfew. 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:44.960 I think it's both. It's important to know that young people, 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:47.640 if they're supposed to be in school, that they are 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:51.439 in school. For one, it's important and that takes you know, 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:55.559 the village. This is that that helps support young people, 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:59.800 the environment, but there is also a need that within 0:13:59.880 --> 0:14:03.160 the conversation of safe and young people, we've got to 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:08.559 provide more hope and options and opportunity for young people. 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:12.760 And so again if young people one, they should be 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:16.839 in school, if a s full age, and also what 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:20.800 kind of skills and training and opportunities and resources and 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:23.840 outlets do we have for young people, which is why 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:26.560 you know, coming back into city Hall, this is such 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:29.680 a priority for me. Uh. You know, one, there are 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:32.480 lots of games on the streets where young people have 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:35.400 access to and so that becomes an issue as well. 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:38.120 But it's one that the city has to be in 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:40.880 partnership with the state, has to be in partnership with 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:44.040 the federal government to really get a handle on this. 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:48.360 Of course, supporting the constitution absolutely, but young people have 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:52.120 access to fire arms and is not good for our community. 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:55.520 It's not good for policing. And this is also part 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:58.440 of you know, what makes officers safe to do this job. 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:02.920 So when we think about recruiting people, you know, this 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:04.880 is a part of that. And so we have to 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:07.520 make sure that this job that people feel safe doing 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:10.400 this job. We have to make sure that young people 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:13.200 are in the right places, and so it's going to 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:16.800 take again. This is just, you know, a continued conversation, 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:18.840 and these are actually things that I am looking at 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:19.960 as well in from the timers. 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:20.560 Gay gotcha. 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:25.560 Finally, I live in Warren County and we had the 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:28.400 other day an incident there where an individual was driving 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:29.520 was rush hour traffic. 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:33.120 He passed somebody. They took offense to it. 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:36.240 The guy comes after him, chases him, he takes off anyway, 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:38.640 long story, shirt dude pulls out a gun and puts 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:40.320 I think a round in the back, which car fires 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:43.720 around at him. And the end result was this individual 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.960 shot was stopped by the State Highway Patrol because somebody 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:48.800 called it a nine to one one where he went 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:51.480 to Warren County jail. He's being held on a five 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:55.160 hundred thousand dollars boud half a million dollar bond for that. 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:57.920 I don't know what his history is, but I look 0:15:57.920 --> 0:15:59.480 at that in Warren County and people at Weren't County 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:01.960 aren't going to say for that nonsense. I look at 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:05.120 Hamlin County, go these are youthful offenders with guns and 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:08.160 they're released sometimes in their own recognizance extremely little bond, 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:11.760 and I think that just encourages more of the same behavior. 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.480 What message can you get to judges to start going, hey, 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:19.200 you know what, Warren Butler, Claremont County, they don't mess 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:21.160 around when somebody is involved with a gun crime. And 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:23.840 if you have a gun at your disability, God help you. 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:25.440 We should be throwing the book at you. From a 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:30.040 federal perspective, that's a strong message to these individuals. But 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:32.600 yet it feels like they're being treated with kid gloves. 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:34.760 Why and what role do you have as a counsel 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:36.600 person to make that change if needed? 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:41.400 Yeah, no, you're pointing out that there is you know, 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.760 this is a three sixty issue, and so that means 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:47.960 the courts have to respond as well. And I absolutely 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:52.720 agree that someone who is a violent offender been convicted 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:55.800 of the selonies and should not own a firearm. You know, 0:16:56.560 --> 0:17:00.320 those are reasons tonot have someone back on the street, 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:02.480 and so I think it's important that that that we 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:06.840 won are are sentencing in the in the right way 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:11.879 bonds And I'm not an attorney, but whatever the maximum 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:15.080 should be, then that's what it should be. But also 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:18.200 what's to make sure we're creating as it relates to juveniles, 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:21.680 we're creating more of the upstroom opportunity to say one, 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:24.800 not only okay, you shouldn't be with a you know, 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:28.560 a llegal firearm on the street, but also let's make 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:31.040 sure we are moving people into more of a productive 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:34.840 place in their lives. And so certainly this takes the 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:36.760 court system to be a part of that. 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:38.879 All right, how are you going to vote on that? 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:45.119 You know today is we'll see what happens this afternoon. 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:49.840 But I am certainly someone who is supporting public safety initiatives. 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:53.560 We're listening to CPD on these things as well. Uh, 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:55.879 And so I want to make sure that we as 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:58.760 a city are responding in all of the appropriate ways 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:03.600 that help to keep our community safe, make people feel safe, 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:07.240 all of us showing that we can walk down M 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:10.760 Street in the City of Cincinnati and not be alarmed 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:15.959 by gunshots or violent crime. H And so this is us, 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:19.960 you know, again showing up. But also it doesn't stop there. 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:23.399 It is uh, you know, what might we need to 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:26.040 do to improve going forward? And say those are the 0:18:26.160 --> 0:18:29.960 questions that remains Okay, so well if. 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:34.240 Those questions are answered, you say yes on us? Yeah, okay, 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:34.600 got it. 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:37.480 I don't see reasons to not support this. 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:40.680 Council Member Mika Owens, appreciate the time as always, Answeredship 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:42.040 and I congratulations again on. 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:42.399 The big win. 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:45.520 Thank you so much. I'm looking forward to getting back 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:46.400 to work for sure. 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:51.040 All right, let's go, let's go. All right, thanks, take care. 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:54.080 We got to get a news update in and more 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:56.080 to follow on this, and of course we'll dive into 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:58.800 the Epstein file dump just ahead here on the Scott's 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:00.080 Loan Show seven hundred other. 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:05.240 Scott Flowing seven. 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:08.960 Hundred WLWI off the show beautiful Thursday. Marnino looks a 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:09.720 good weekend ahead too. 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:14.359 For that matter. On the backside, what do we got today? 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:14.639 Is it? 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:19.080 Today is the death of the American penny. The penny 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:21.560 that costs about four cents to mint is going to 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:25.480 be discontinued as of today because that production costs is 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:27.520 way outside of what it's value was, and plus they're 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:31.800 just so damn annoying. It's going to remain legal tender 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:34.600 offecy for a while until they fade out. I don't 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:36.960 know how long it's gonna take a long time. Wonder 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:38.520 are luck it's going to take to get rid of 0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:40.960 all the pennies, probably not going to see it in 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:44.480 our lifetimes. If you're a live right now. I will 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:46.919 say this though, that the fastest way to get rid 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:48.720 of the penny is to get it off the market. 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:49.879 I am a I don't know if you know this, 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:55.159 but a licensed penny recycler, and if you want to, 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:57.520 according to the government, you want to get rid of 0:19:57.560 --> 0:20:01.040 these pennies. Eighty forty four Montgomery Road, Cincinnati, Ohio four 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:03.080 five two three six. If you want unload all your pennies, 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:07.000 I'm a authorized penny recycler. 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:08.000 There you go. 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:14.120 Just I want to think about it. Watch it get 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:16.359 like a wheelbarrow full of pennies or something like that. 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:18.639 I get anying for it. I'll just take the pennies, 0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:22.080 make it someone else. It'll probably cost you more to Well, 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:25.000 you're rolling all those coinstar machines. How you roll that 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:26.600 into the bank. They look at it and go, we're 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:28.639 not taking that stuff. But you can't even get rid 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:30.600 of pennies if you want to unless you're rolling them 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:33.240 at yourself. So or pay the big at a coinstar machine. 0:20:34.160 --> 0:20:35.520 You know, they had the old days of walking in 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:37.680 the bank and I got a bunch of pennies, put 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:39.440 it in your counter. Nope, not gonna do it. 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:39.959 Do't know way. 0:20:39.960 --> 0:20:41.960 You gotta roll it yourself too. It's like I could 0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:44.000 cheat you out of a couple of pennies maybe, and 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:47.240 and if you then weigh them, you then could just 0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:49.399 weigh the pennies without the little sleeve on. It's just 0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:51.080 a pain in the butt. They're a pain in the butt. 0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:53.320 That's what it is as we move towards more of 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:58.720 a cashless society. So yesterday it was the Epstein drop. 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:01.680 We had twenty fous from the Republicans, which felt like 0:21:01.800 --> 0:21:05.240 a classic legal move to kind of obscure what's really 0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:07.280 going on here. Normally, you know, you just dump a 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:09.160 whole bunch of information on some of lepago. Here, here's 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:12.080 twenty thousand on top of the three that makes our 0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:14.040 guy look a little more dirty than he is, and 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:18.440 that would be Donald Trump. It's going to be interesting, 0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:21.160 and I hope it's more interesting than sickening to see 0:21:21.160 --> 0:21:24.440 how this thing goes. Look, the fact the matter is, 0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:28.159 this is an ongoing problem, has been an ongoing problem 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:30.520 for Trump and the Republicans for a while now. And 0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:33.600 I think what's telling about this is Trump comes out 0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:36.080 and says, look, this is the Republicans who flipped. The 0:21:36.080 --> 0:21:38.840 four of them, including Thomas Massey, were very bad or 0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:41.760 stupid Republicans as he called them. And it's a Democrat 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:45.119 trap in the Jeffrey Epstein hoax. But remember, you got 0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:46.720 a whole lot of people to support and vote for 0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:48.720 you and campaign for you based on the fact you 0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:51.840 were going to be crystal clear in your transparency when 0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:55.560 it came to Jeffrey Epstein and his misdeeds, his crimes. 0:21:57.240 --> 0:22:00.880 And then because of expedient see if oh there's nothing, 0:22:00.920 --> 0:22:02.560 there's nothing in this report, We're going to release and 0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:04.760 release and then then there's nothing there. Well, you wonder 0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:08.639 why people, even those who supported you, are at the 0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:11.200 very least giving you side eye, at the most turning 0:22:11.240 --> 0:22:14.320 their back on you or voting against you. In this 0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:16.200 case is Laura they brought a look at it this way, 0:22:16.800 --> 0:22:19.439 said it's a hoax. But at the same time, yesterday, 0:22:19.520 --> 0:22:22.920 bring Lauren Bobert in from Colorado and they're trying to 0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:25.840 sweat her to try and get her pull her name 0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:28.320 off because you got this Democratic senator from Arizona who's 0:22:28.320 --> 0:22:30.159 getting sworn in, and they didn't want the votes to 0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:32.560 go through, and the end result as it did, because 0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:34.639 Bobert and three others stood up and said, no, I 0:22:34.840 --> 0:22:38.080 want this stuff to come out, and reports are not surfacing. 0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:39.800 He was playing phone tag with some other reps to 0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:41.440 try and get them to flip so they didn't have 0:22:41.640 --> 0:22:44.720 the two hundred and eighteen signatures. And all this over 0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:46.280 a hoax. I mean, if it's a hoax and you 0:22:46.359 --> 0:22:52.040 really really believe that, then what exactly are you afraid 0:22:52.080 --> 0:22:55.840 of people seeing? But I think it's part and parcel 0:22:55.880 --> 0:22:59.320 for what we're talking about here in that I'm pretty 0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:02.680 sure that Trump's named a lot in these things. On 0:23:02.760 --> 0:23:05.600 the other hand, you wonder about prominent Democrats like Bill Clinton. 0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:07.879 How look what happened to Prince Andrew right. I mean, 0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:10.880 they stripped him of his crime. They said, okay, you're 0:23:10.920 --> 0:23:11.880 not you're out. 0:23:14.320 --> 0:23:14.359 That. 0:23:14.600 --> 0:23:18.399 And you know how protective and secluded and private the 0:23:18.520 --> 0:23:21.359 royal family is. For them to do that over this 0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:25.080 and for us to go ad nothing to see here, 0:23:25.119 --> 0:23:30.320 it doesn't look good. And is there a crime that 0:23:30.440 --> 0:23:33.760 I don't know because we don't know everything that's in there. 0:23:34.280 --> 0:23:36.879 I understand there's a context that the Democrats are going 0:23:36.920 --> 0:23:40.240 to drop the stuff that they want to use to 0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:43.200 make Trump look bad. Absolutely, are there some politics behind 0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:46.040 There's a lot of politics behind this. If you look 0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:48.920 at this, is just what a partisan weaponsization is. What's 0:23:48.960 --> 0:23:53.280 going on here. Republicans are accusing Democrats are selectively leaking 0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:56.920 the emails, but they're also withholding records that named Democrats, 0:23:57.080 --> 0:23:59.680 so we think anyway, and Democrats accuse Republicans are covering 0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:02.200 for true up and back and forth. So you know, 0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:05.920 you look at that and I'm about quite honestly, I 0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:09.119 don't really care Republican, Democrat or otherwise. If you were 0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:13.000 accused of, caught up in, or guilty of doing all 0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:15.960 the misdeeds, you should be going to prison, just like 0:24:16.119 --> 0:24:20.840 others have in this particular case. I don't think there's any. 0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:24.320 Debate for that. I don't think there's any room for that. 0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:28.320 I mentioned the time he was impeccable because of Prince Andrew, 0:24:28.400 --> 0:24:30.159 and now you look at us and go, okay, what 0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:34.240 are we doing over here? It's just not negotiable that 0:24:34.320 --> 0:24:37.560 the facts are out there. Did he what level involvement 0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:40.600 did he have is a big question. What did he 0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:42.359 know and when did he know it to coin a phrase. 0:24:43.880 --> 0:24:46.840 I think there's enough cover for him right now, going okay, well, 0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:52.120 you had Maxwell come out and say, now there's really 0:24:52.160 --> 0:24:55.680 nothing going on here. Jeffrey's family's been critical of Trump 0:24:55.800 --> 0:24:58.359 after he said Epstein stole her from mar A Lago, 0:24:58.440 --> 0:25:00.119 And I don't know what that means. Stole her from 0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:02.440 our alago. Is it's stilling her because he knew what 0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:04.879 he was going to do with her, or stole her 0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:10.159 because you know, good employees are hard to find, so 0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:12.480 there's wiggle room there. And Trump is really really good 0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:14.040 to get out of legal jams. I don't know if 0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:17.280 you notice that or not. I wouldn't say I give 0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:19.000 him the benefit of the doubt. I just you need 0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:21.920 more proof as to what's going on here, the full 0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:25.080 depth of this whole thing, and you know, releasing little 0:25:25.119 --> 0:25:27.240 pieces here and there to make the other side look 0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:30.119 bad is not justice at all, as we've seen in 0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:33.920 the past. You know, did he have some level of 0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:36.359 Alma's hands in the sure he's involved, He's on planes 0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:38.080 and everything else, So you know what, just release all 0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:43.040 the names, release all the associations instead of milking this 0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:45.600 out for political sake and we'll be done with this. 0:25:46.080 --> 0:25:47.760 And I look at Michael Wolfe. That's the guy who 0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:49.159 wrote Fire and Fear. I believe it was Fire and 0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:51.399 Fury the one and just hanging around with Trump for 0:25:51.400 --> 0:25:53.440 a while. But he said, you know one of the emails, 0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:55.359 I hear Cen on plane and asked Trump tonight about 0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:58.040 this relationship with you either on air and a scrum afterwards. 0:25:58.040 --> 0:25:59.440 And this was to Epstein. 0:26:01.240 --> 0:26:03.760 And six months after Trump had declared he was running 0:26:03.880 --> 0:26:06.359 for the presidency of whatsoe that's back in twenty sixteen. 0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:07.320 It's to be twenty fifteen. 0:26:08.400 --> 0:26:10.800 And Epstein replied to wolf if we were to craft 0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:12.600 an answer for him, what do you think it should be. 0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:14.879 I think you should let him hang himself as a 0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:18.200 wolf road. If he says he hasn't been on the 0:26:18.240 --> 0:26:19.760 plane or the house, that gives you a value of 0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:21.840 pr and political currency. You can hang him a way 0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:24.440 that potentially generates a positive for you. Or if it 0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:26.080 looks like he could win the election, which you did, 0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:28.640 you could save him and that would generate a dat 0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:30.520 And that's the politics of it. That's the you know, 0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:33.920 I'm sad. That's that's pretty damning right there. And I 0:26:34.000 --> 0:26:36.680 think we as a people deserve to see more. But 0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:39.960 we now live in such a hyper partisan world that 0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:43.040 any criticism and saying, hey, you know, we should be 0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:47.159 looking at this somehow doesn't make you mag enough, and 0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:50.520 it's just you're falling for Democratic Democrat lies and like 0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:51.560 and then okay. 0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:54.320 The other side is that we're probably pretty sure. 0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:57.320 That the Clintons or someone else's in the person the 0:26:57.359 --> 0:27:00.560 Democrats are involved in this as well, because you know, 0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:03.520 this whole classism battle that we face, there's an element 0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:07.720 of truth to it in that the people were talking 0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:10.040 about they all swim in the same fish tank. You know, 0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:12.719 you think we think it's about hyperpartisan politics. I mean 0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:15.480 that's okay. Inside the Bellway, it's a little bit different, 0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:18.280 especially inside those towers, a lot different when these are 0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:23.840 very very wealthy, well connected people and you do have Democrats, Republicans, agnostics, 0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:26.160 atheists and everyone hanging out with it. You know, last 0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:27.920 time I checked, if you're gonna be a pedophile, it 0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:32.360 does not know any political affiliation. And so if that's 0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:35.960 the case, Republicans have a lot to protect as new Democrats. 0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:39.440 I mean, our Congress can't be bothered to pass a 0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:42.240 balanced budget, can't be vouchered to It's happened twice in 0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:45.040 my lifetime. I know about you seemingly can't do the job, 0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:47.240 but they're really really good about trying to block stuff 0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:50.320 like this, the real truth and stuff from getting out there. 0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:51.760 And that should tell you everything. You know, if you're 0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:54.640 a hyperpartisan, you may want to really, you know, look 0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:57.920 at that. And I'd say, look at the Democrats. You know, 0:27:58.080 --> 0:28:01.000 you're having no kings rallies to rail against Trump and 0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:04.800 the like. But again, it's what you preach is also 0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:08.280 not what you practice. Because we have a kingdom, and 0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:10.560 the kingdom was not started under Donald Trump, but was 0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:13.200 started well in the past. When it comes to executive order, 0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:17.879 and because Congress is beholden to the presidency whomever that is, 0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:21.840 they will allow either executive auto pen whatever it is, 0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:24.520 to do the bidding the presidency, and they feel like 0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:27.560 they don't have to act because they've given that power 0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:30.840 away to the executive branch as opposed to really having 0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:32.720 a balance of power. That's going on, and we saw 0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:35.639 that with what's going on with the debt or the 0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:38.920 vote on the big beautiful bill, or in this case here, 0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:40.680 it's like just we just walk away well, do we 0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:44.280 have Congress for them? The hard things are not willing 0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:46.080 to do, but really really good at making sure that 0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:48.200 the truth doesn't get out there, which makes one think 0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:52.320 there's something there and I think we deserve to see 0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:54.400 all that. Maybe we'll find out next week. We'll see 0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:57.200 at five and three, seven, four, nine, eight hundred the 0:28:57.200 --> 0:28:59.360 Big One talk back iHeartRadio up over to A Dayton 0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:00.400 and Jeff one hundred. 0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:01.800 W W Hey, Jeff, thanks for checking in. 0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:04.280 Marty Sony Hey. 0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:06.680 I was in the Air Force and in nineteen seventy 0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:09.400 nine to eighty I was at Coonsan Air Base, Korea, 0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:12.680 and we didn't use painties at all on base. The 0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:15.720 basic change if it was round, you'd round up to 0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:18.240 the nearest nickels. So it really it never mattered. And 0:29:18.640 --> 0:29:19.840 I don't think it will be a problem. 0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:20.800 I don't think so either. 0:29:20.840 --> 0:29:22.640 I mean people will say, well they'll just round up, 0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:24.680 do they won't because you have competition. You have to 0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:27.920 look at gas, you know, if the if the UDF 0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:29.719 on one side and the speedway and the other. If 0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:32.040 it's a if it's a three cent different one cent difference, 0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:33.480 people will go to the one that's cheaper. 0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:38.640 Absolutely yeah, yeah, issue really compared to the others that 0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:39.239 we have now. 0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:41.200 Yeah, so don't figure if you want to get rid 0:29:41.200 --> 0:29:44.240 of those petties, you know where to send them. Okay, 0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:48.760 all right, there you go, eighty forty four Montcomerer News 0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:50.520 on the way in about eight minutes here on seven 0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:54.280 hundred WLW. Patrick Collin from CET is here. I love 0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:56.840 the seet guys because they're geeky and wonky and it's 0:29:56.840 --> 0:29:59.160 so what you need to know on better, better battery 0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:03.520 life for your phone. And you know, we this time 0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:05.520 of year especially see how they Kevin Hart's and every 0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:08.600 commercial and if the commercials he's not in shacks and 0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:12.000 would be the other one, and then Matthew McConaughey and 0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:14.120 a select few others. So there's really three guys who 0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:19.840 do all the commercials. And you got all three. But 0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:22.280 now they you know, Kevin Hart, the iPhone ads and 0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:23.560 then we'll see the Antifa. 0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:24.640 We got the Google phones. 0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:27.440 You know all they got all these things on them, 0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:31.760 really really cool features that most of us don't use. Now, 0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:33.680 if you're an influencer, you know there's a phone for you. 0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:36.840 It has multiple cameras and all they need is a 0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:39.040 phone I need texting, I need social media, I need 0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:42.880 the Internet. I need a phone phone, maybe a few apps, 0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:47.920 but primarily I need a battery that lasts a long time, 0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:50.800 like at a perfect world. 0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:53.120 I need a battery that lasts like Hollywood. 0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:57.360 Time you ever notice on a show streaming otherwise, movie 0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:00.160 people always in the they never charge a day. You 0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:02.240 never see them, like We'll go to sleep and then 0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:03.960 the phone ring and will wake up and pick the 0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:07.680 phone up. It's never in a charger now, but to 0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:10.040 hold on, I gotta unplug it. I got to take 0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:13.080 it up the the bag safe older, No, none of that. 0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:13.880 Where's my dad off? 0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:14.840 I'm out of you. 0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:18.080 Unless it's somebody that is about to get killed or 0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:20.200 something like that, then there's a good chance they have 0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:24.280 no cell service or they're down it's blinking or low 0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:26.800 power that one percent the phone goes off like the 0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:30.880 phone has always said, never seemed charge it, and it's 0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:32.840 always on. I would love a phone like that where 0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:36.000 I could literally have an entire season of shows and 0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:39.160 I'm always on the phone and it always has a 0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:39.720 full charge. 0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:43.000 That could be a dream. That is a dream of mine. 0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:44.840 Uh real quick. 0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:46.960 One other thing of note this morning and just kind 0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:49.840 of trivial. At that is just about the time I 0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:51.760 do the trivial kind of stuff on the show. Not 0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:55.400 that the Jeffrey Epstein stuff was that that critical, but 0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:59.520 or that trivial. I guess I should say next time 0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:01.920 I go to the state, and this may happen next week. 0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:04.560 It's not a done deal. But this is another thing 0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:09.239 to confuse your wallet. You're ready for tiered pricing at 0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:12.960 checkout based on what credit card you use. Now we 0:32:13.040 --> 0:32:14.960 hear the stories about you know, Kroger changing their tags 0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:17.920 in store, which is more about saving money for them 0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:20.800 because of the cost of seven switch out prices and 0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:23.000 do an electronic and store pricing. People, Oh, they're just 0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:25.080 going to go to this tiered model, right, It's going 0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:28.240 to be surge pricing maybe, but probably not tiered pricing 0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:30.000 at checkout based on what credit card do. So Visa, 0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:35.680 MasterCard and merchants reached the settlement, ending a twenty year 0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:38.280 anti trust battle over they're called interchange fees. So these 0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:40.960 are the chargers that banks collect for merchants for credit 0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:44.560 card transactions. They charge them a percentage and the deal 0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:49.040 is struck. And before this, merchants, for example, if you 0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:51.240 accepted Visa, you had to take all visa credit cards, 0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:54.000 doesn't matter what the brand was or what point it was. 0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:56.200 And the new rules would allow them now to pick 0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:57.120 and choose rich category. 0:32:57.160 --> 0:32:58.720 So the categories we're not talking about, you know, is 0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:01.520 it a points card to know different categories are. For example, 0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:04.760 you've got your entry level cards like the Capitol and Quicksilver. 0:33:05.040 --> 0:33:07.040 Then you got the mid market cards which are like 0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:10.320 a Chase Sapphire Preferred. You have your premiums, which are 0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:13.080 like an MX Platinum, or the super premiums, which is 0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:15.520 thousands of dollars a year, would be a black card 0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:17.640 because it's a status item. So those are like the 0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:21.560 different categories of cards that they have. So the way 0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:23.560 the new rule would work is basic cards might have 0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:26.320 lower search chargers than a premium awards card. So if 0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:29.200 you use your AMX instead of that I don't know 0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:34.120 Discover card for example, you may be paying more in 0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:36.880 that too as well. And now some merchant's course charge 0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:39.120 flat fees for this too, but the pricing can be 0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:41.840 more granular, and so the outcome they projected outcome here 0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:45.400 is you'll see more fees as opposed to refusal. Some 0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:47.120 places you can use this card. You can't use that 0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:49.520 when I get that, but buy and large. You'll check 0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:51.160 that statement and go, wait a minute, I just bought 0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:55.280 a coffee and use this card here, and the one 0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:58.920 that I just bought is twenty five cents more. Yeah, 0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:01.640 it's because of which car you use. So just FYI 0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:04.480 if indeed this goes into effect next week, well the news, 0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:07.560 we'll talk about your phone battery life, very important stuff. 0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:09.600 Just ahead, Scott Sloan, home of the best Bengals coverage 0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:11.360 seven hundred WW Since now do. 0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:12.839 You want to be an American? 0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:16.719 It's got phone back on seven hundred wlw's all the 0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:20.320 bells and whistles like multiple camber lenses and pixels and 0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:23.520 health tracking. It's got a microwave in it, an AI 0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:26.800 and what users really care about with the phone. I 0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:29.359 think I may be wrong is battery life. How much 0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:31.800 battery can I get out of this? How when do 0:34:31.920 --> 0:34:35.160 I I gotta charge this again? I'm almost I'm done 0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:37.239 a one bar, I'm one done as it's good to 0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:39.160 oh man, you know phones right? 0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:41.680 And yeah, I'm not shooting a Hollywood film. 0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:42.120 I'm good. 0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:44.400 I'm not Steven Spielberg. All I want to do is 0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:47.600 text somebody can you help me out? Patrick Hollin is 0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:50.240 here from Cnet our friends at seen at He studied 0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:53.000 three years of phone data so you didn't have to. 0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:55.200 And Patrick, of course spend a lot of time here 0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:56.560 in cincyback and they how are you? 0:34:57.840 --> 0:34:59.840 Hey, I'm very good. Still trying to find that in 0:34:59.840 --> 0:35:01.080 my away by my iPhone, but. 0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:03.200 Yeah, there, I think it's there. It's just buried in 0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:05.239 like one of the I forget what happens, and it's 0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:08.920 somewhere in there. But that's a disturbing parer. We've got 0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:11.000 all these cool features and bugs on the phone. The 0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:12.920 commercial we see a lot now right is, oh my god, 0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:14.960 I'm shooting a Hollywood movie on this great. 0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:16.880 Can I get a battery to last better than like 0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:18.320 eight hours? That'd be fantastic. 0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:22.880 Yeah. Absolutely. I've been in reviewing phones for almost a 0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:26.080 decade now, and the number one and number two things 0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:28.040 people want are a lower price and more battery. 0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:31.520 That's that easy, okay, And I know you probably did 0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:34.800 did iPhone too, But this this applies is most of 0:35:34.920 --> 0:35:37.319 us upgrade simply because our battery wears out right. It's 0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:39.759 not the camera, the processors. I got the latest chip 0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:43.680 on all that stuff. You know, it's basically about my 0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:48.319 battery doesn't charge long enough. Absolutely, you look at your 0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:50.040 battery and there's two things you can do. You you 0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:53.200 can either take it in and pay like thirty to 0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:55.239 fifty dollars to have it swap down and get a 0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:57.359 new one in and there'll probably last a couple more years. 0:35:57.920 --> 0:35:59.759 Or what most people do is they buy a new phone. 0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:03.160 And what's great about these new iPhones for the iPhone 0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:06.080 seventeen series is all of them have bigger batteries and 0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:09.239 it's no logic there that bigger is better and you 0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:12.040 get more battery life because of it. So you spent 0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:13.920 you looked at three years of data and testing all 0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:16.280 this stuff. But what's the most surpriing prising of finding 0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:17.360 for you, Patrick came out of. 0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:23.160 Us absolutely the going through set labs. We have decade, 0:36:23.320 --> 0:36:25.239 over a decade worth of data, but over the last 0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:29.880 three years, specifically for battery testing and charging. It's no 0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:34.040 surprise that the iPhone seventeen series has a longer battery 0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:37.560 life than the iPhone sixteen series and definitely than the 0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:41.440 iPhone fifteen series. In fact, the iPhone seventeen promacs that 0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:45.520 you've probably seen like pictures of that orange color. That 0:36:45.800 --> 0:36:49.320 one has the biggest battery ever in an iPhone, and 0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:53.520 it's no surprise it actually topped all of our battery tests. 0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:57.040 It's the highest rated phone you can get and raid 0:36:57.120 --> 0:36:59.560 or iPhone at this time. We know there's probably gonna 0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:01.520 be some more end phones coming out soon. And the 0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:03.880 other thing is there's that really den iPhone, the iPhone 0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:05.759 Air you may have heard about, and there was a 0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:08.240 lot of worries about the battery life of that because 0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:10.160 a very thin phone doesn't have a lot of room 0:37:10.200 --> 0:37:12.680 for a battery. But turns out it's battery life is 0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:16.320 it gets through a day. I wouldn't want to recommend 0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:18.680 it for a power user, but it scored an our 0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:22.600 test on on par with the iPhone fifteen from just 0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:23.440 a couple of years ago. 0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:23.799 Wow. 0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:26.439 So looking through on the scene at lab Data really 0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:29.320 helps us put just pretty clear in perspective which phones 0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:31.080 people should get and spend their money on. 0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:34.879 Yeah, I saw this metric the seventeen promacs a new one. 0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:37.200 You did a three hour streaming test, so that's you 0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:38.880 know that's gonna eat ups in battery. It just it 0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:41.319 lost less than ten percent battery. That's incredible. What are 0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:43.200 they doing differently this year? I mean, it seemed like 0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:45.399 we've hit peak battery. I know, back of the day, 0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:47.200 you know you're lucky if you get forty five minutes 0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:48.799 out of a half hour out of a charge. Right, 0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:52.480 But as we progressed here in the lithium batteries and 0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:56.399 ion is a new technology that just getting is about 0:37:56.440 --> 0:37:57.080 heat dissipation. 0:37:57.280 --> 0:37:58.680 What are they getting out of it to make it less? 0:37:58.680 --> 0:37:58.960 How long? 0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:03.000 It's a little bit of both. So traditionally the iPhone 0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:06.200 has at olythium ion battery. It still does. There are 0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:09.400 some exciting Android phones coming out. One of them, the 0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:11.239 only one in the US, I believe, is the one 0:38:11.320 --> 0:38:14.560 plus thirteen that has a silicon carbon battery. And all 0:38:14.640 --> 0:38:17.920 that means is for the same sized battery as the 0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:21.360 lithium ion, you get one one and a half times 0:38:21.560 --> 0:38:25.040 more capacity to it, so you get much more battery life. 0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:27.279 But Apple didn't go that route. Instead, what they did 0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:29.759 is they just put a physically larger battery in, but 0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:32.960 then they also optimize things. They optimize for video playback 0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:37.719 so it has less heat from the processor. In the 0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:41.600 Pro models, there's actually a cooling chamber now that goes 0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:44.000 over the processor, so it allows it to work a 0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:47.640 little harder without causing more heat, and heat therefore makes 0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:50.319 things go slower and you have to slow things down. 0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:51.040 That doesn't turn off. 0:38:51.160 --> 0:38:53.520 Yeah, okay, bigger batteries great, But does that it more weight? 0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:58.440 It definitely does. So the seventeen Pro and Promacs are 0:38:58.480 --> 0:39:01.960 the heaviest iPhones we've tested. While they have an aluminum body, 0:39:02.239 --> 0:39:05.719 so that is different from the titanium frames before, but 0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:09.640 I think most people probably wouldn't even notice that it's heavier. 0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:12.640 I will also say, though, I would recommend if you're 0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:15.200 looking at just a regular seventeen Pro, take a look 0:39:15.239 --> 0:39:18.160 at the iPhone seventeen. It's battery life is right on 0:39:18.320 --> 0:39:21.640 par with it, it costs hundreds less, and for most people, 0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:24.480 if you don't need that telephoto camera, it's actually quite 0:39:24.480 --> 0:39:25.239 an amazing deal. 0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:25.960 Yeah. 0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:27.839 I mean, if you're a creator, the Promax is great 0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:30.480 and you're shooting those Hollywood movies, I guess, but you know, 0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:33.840 if you're a creator three hour streaming, you're going to 0:39:33.920 --> 0:39:34.120 need that. 0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:35.279 But for most of us, we're not. 0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:38.520 So yeah, and they're still going to be. There's still outliers, right, 0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:41.400 you get the creative types you're making the movies and stuff. 0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:43.800 But you also have people who are like obsessively online 0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:46.520 and they're always on their phone, and there's not going 0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:48.799 to ever really be a phone with a battery that's 0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:51.919 going to be what they need. And part of it's 0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:54.200 a behavior thing. Part of it's just you're using it 0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:56.920 so much. But I have to say for most people, yeah, 0:39:57.000 --> 0:40:00.759 these new iPhones should do really well. I really am 0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:05.160 surprised by the iPhone seventeen from that just how much 0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:07.160 of a jump of tad the last two years. So 0:40:07.200 --> 0:40:10.320 if you're holding onto an old iPhone, like an iPhone fourteen, 0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:12.640 just know you're going to get better battery life. But 0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:15.080 if you have an iPhone fifteen, I would challenge you 0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:18.359 to think about just having your battery or place. It's 0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:20.480 much more affordable. It's going to extend the life of 0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:23.080 your phone. And you like the screen and the cameras, 0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:23.960 you've got nothing to lose. 0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:26.000 If you're a business user, maybe you'll run your own business. 0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:27.879 My wife, for example, is a real estate barker. She's 0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:30.480 on her phone all the time, talking or texting. How 0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:32.320 does that three hour streaming test where it loses just 0:40:32.400 --> 0:40:34.279 nine percent battery, how does that stack up to just 0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:38.200 using the phone is what causes the battery to cook 0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:40.280 more talking on the phone or streaming. 0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:44.440 Yeah, so the biggest killer for the phone's battery is 0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:46.960 going to be your cellular connection. So if you look 0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:49.560 at the bars in your phone, if you have full bars, 0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:51.640 it means you are in a good place and the 0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:55.880 phone's not struggling to reach that antenna. But it's like 0:40:56.760 --> 0:40:59.440 missing a bar too. That's going to be that your 0:40:59.480 --> 0:41:01.600 phone's going to really be pushing to grab that five 0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:04.200 G data and stuff like that. The other thing is display. 0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:07.040 These displays get so bright and the new phones have 0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:11.080 even brighter displays, and there's some efficiency in the materials 0:41:11.080 --> 0:41:13.520 they're using, but it's still going to draw a lot 0:41:13.560 --> 0:41:15.960 of power for that. So the other thing we do 0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:17.879 is in Sceneate Labs, we not only have the three 0:41:17.920 --> 0:41:20.839 hour video streaming test, we have a forty five anecdotal 0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:23.400 test where where we just put it under stress for 0:41:23.480 --> 0:41:26.319 forty five minutes and what we're doing is we're doing 0:41:26.880 --> 0:41:31.040 as we're playing video games or streaming, scrolling social news 0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:33.480 feeds and things like that to really reflect what my 0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:36.200 people might be using it on. And again, the iPhones 0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:39.040 perform very well in that test. And our ultimate test 0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:42.399 is we actually use these phones as our daily driver 0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:45.000 while we're testing them, and so we know that if 0:41:45.040 --> 0:41:47.920 we start the day at six am with a full battery, 0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:50.960 something like the Promax is ending the day at thirty 0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:53.120 thirty three thirty five percent. Wow. 0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:56.239 Great, I think that's incredible. Patrick Collin from c NEET 0:41:56.560 --> 0:41:59.279 and they're the guys that look at the equipment, all 0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:01.160 the cool tech that we buy and break it down 0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:02.759 tell you what the value is. He study three years 0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:05.520 of phone data find out which all we care about 0:42:05.560 --> 0:42:07.480 really outside of you know, all these big cameras and 0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:09.920 bells and whistles is battery life, and which phones get 0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:14.239 the best battery life? I iPhone seventeen Promacs and the 0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:17.200 I seventeen the best. Right now, it's like a three 0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:20.000 hour streaming test lost nine percent of battery. Obviously it's 0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:22.520 going to consume more if you're using cellular and the like. 0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:25.560 So in bigger batteries don't does mean bigger life? 0:42:25.680 --> 0:42:26.120 Is that true? 0:42:27.320 --> 0:42:27.719 That's true? 0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:29.840 I mean we look at Android phones, they traditionally have 0:42:30.000 --> 0:42:33.040 much bigger batteries than the iPhone, but their software is 0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:36.320 not optimized because that Android software has to work across 0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:40.200 a variety of different phone designs and different processors and 0:42:40.280 --> 0:42:43.600 things like that. So since Apple controls the software, the battery, 0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:47.359 the processor, it's able to get much more efficiency out 0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:50.279 of these I will stay smaller batteries. They don't want 0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:51.440 you to know that, so if you ever go on 0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:53.719 their site, you don't see them say how big the 0:42:53.840 --> 0:42:55.640 gas take is, so to speak. But just know that 0:42:56.200 --> 0:42:57.920 if you have a big truck with a big gas take, 0:42:57.960 --> 0:43:00.320 it doesn't mean it gets great fuel efficiency. I So 0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:02.840 in the case of the iPhone, it's all about that 0:43:03.200 --> 0:43:04.360 fuel efficiency. 0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:04.719 Are you sai. 0:43:04.760 --> 0:43:07.000 You're saying, basically, is the iPhone just a better phone 0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:08.560 battery wise than androids? 0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:12.759 I would say there are Android phones that compete with it. 0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:16.839 So the one plus thirteen really impressed us. And there's 0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:19.120 a lot of the Chinese brand phones that we don't 0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:22.160 get in the US that are probably even better than 0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:24.560 the iPhone in some of these tests. As we don't 0:43:24.560 --> 0:43:26.120 get them here, we don't get to test them all 0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:29.080 in the same way, or they're in mandarate and things 0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:31.880 like that. But yeah, so the iPhone is not the 0:43:32.000 --> 0:43:34.680 only way to go to get a big to get 0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:38.359 a long battery life, but it's the phone that most 0:43:38.400 --> 0:43:41.000 people have in the US, and it's the most people 0:43:41.080 --> 0:43:41.839 care about the US. 0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:45.480 Yeah, yeah, no, no, that's that's entirely juman. I'm an 0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:47.680 Apple user and it just all works like it should 0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:49.400 and maybe a little more expensive, but it works, and 0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:52.120 I pay a premium for stuff working and sinking as 0:43:52.160 --> 0:43:54.680 it should. When you go back years of like maybe 0:43:54.680 --> 0:43:57.440 I have a sixteen or fifteen or fourteen, and I'm like, 0:43:57.480 --> 0:43:59.959 and well, I mean, it's working, okay, Can I slug 0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:01.800 out for another year? You know, the way the economy 0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:03.960 is and money's tight. These damn things are expensive and 0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:07.480 I gotta extend my contract depending who I have. Is 0:44:07.560 --> 0:44:10.560 there a difference? What's it is like the sixteen plus 0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:13.560 and name the seventeen promax? I mean, is it night 0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:13.879 and day? 0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:17.600 In terms of batter life? It's not night and day. 0:44:17.719 --> 0:44:20.160 And even in terms of like cameras, it's not night 0:44:20.239 --> 0:44:24.160 and day. Obviously, if you go back three four years, 0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:27.239 you start seeing some major differences in noting battery life, 0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:30.719 but the cameras your photos will look better, have more 0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:33.319 dismos to make you take better photos, even if you're 0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:36.920 not a great photographer. You'll have a bigger screen or 0:44:37.000 --> 0:44:40.239 brighter screen and things like that. But if you really 0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:42.560 go back, like I would say for most of these phones, 0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:46.400 if you have an iPhone fourteen and you're thinking about upgrade, 0:44:46.440 --> 0:44:48.040 that's a good place to be. If you have an 0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:50.520 iPhone fifteen, and unless you really are going to get 0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:53.120 a good deal, I would say it's worth sitting out. 0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:55.000 But that's the other thing I feel a lot of 0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:57.040 people don't look at and one of our scene at 0:44:57.040 --> 0:44:59.919 surveys we found that a lot of people don't even 0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:03.400 trade in their old phones, and you could trade that in. 0:45:03.520 --> 0:45:04.839 Think of it like a car. You're going to get 0:45:05.360 --> 0:45:08.719 much better value toward that new phone. And the best 0:45:08.800 --> 0:45:11.680 time to trade in is actually when they first launched, 0:45:11.760 --> 0:45:15.520 because Apple, O, Verizon, all these all these carriers are 0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:19.680 offering these really these deals sometimes I can quote unquote 0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:21.920 pay for the whole phone, right, So you got to 0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:23.160 look out for that too, all right. 0:45:23.440 --> 0:45:25.759 Patrick Collin was seen at studying a phone data which 0:45:25.760 --> 0:45:28.840 ones had the best battery life Right now, the Apple 0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:31.600 seventeen Pro Max is pretty damn good, or the seventeen 0:45:31.640 --> 0:45:33.600 Pro for that matter, is doing really really well, and 0:45:33.920 --> 0:45:34.440 it's one I spo. 0:45:34.440 --> 0:45:36.560 Okay, the battery share. What about charging time? 0:45:36.719 --> 0:45:39.560 So if I get a battery charger bank, battery bank, 0:45:39.640 --> 0:45:41.080 or I plug in somewhere, I need to get some 0:45:41.200 --> 0:45:45.560 juice in my phone. That is a I think as 0:45:45.560 --> 0:45:48.719 an outlier, right, because not all charging platforms are built 0:45:48.760 --> 0:45:49.000 the same. 0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:51.480 Something's charged faster than others. What about the phone itself? 0:45:52.840 --> 0:45:55.080 Yeah, so Apple has increased the charging on it. So 0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:56.640 we have kind of two types of charges. We have 0:45:56.760 --> 0:46:00.400 wired charging and we have wireless or app calls it 0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:02.799 mag safe, right. I don't know if you or your 0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:04.680 wife have like one of those magnetic stocks. 0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:06.239 And I notice we got one. 0:46:06.320 --> 0:46:08.160 I've got one in my next to my nightstand. I 0:46:08.200 --> 0:46:09.960 put my phone on it on my alarm clock and 0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:11.799 that charge is pretty fast. And then she's got one 0:46:11.880 --> 0:46:13.440 she used for her phone in the kitchen and it's 0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:14.319 like half as fast. 0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:14.759 What's going on? 0:46:15.880 --> 0:46:18.480 Yeah, So with those wireless charging there's kind of these 0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:22.080 different standards. So Apple, Google, Samsung and hundreds of other 0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:24.560 companies are part of the thing called the Wireless Power Consortium, 0:46:24.840 --> 0:46:26.840 and they have the standard called KE it's called you 0:46:26.960 --> 0:46:30.880 spell it out QI, and the original like standard is 0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:35.319 like very slow charging there's Key too that came out 0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:38.279 maybe two years ago, and that's a bit faster. And 0:46:38.400 --> 0:46:40.840 then the last version's Key two point two. So that 0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:44.120 gives us these twenty five watt speeds that you're probably experiencing. 0:46:44.200 --> 0:46:46.120 But sounds like maybe your wife might have an older 0:46:46.520 --> 0:46:49.080 mag safe stock, but it still has the magnet, it 0:46:49.120 --> 0:46:51.600 still does the wireless charging. And what's great is that 0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:54.880 those speeds you're not killing the battery. You're not I know, 0:46:55.160 --> 0:46:58.160 years ago we'd recommend not keeping it on the charger 0:46:58.200 --> 0:47:00.520 all the time. Most phones have SOWT for the AI 0:47:00.680 --> 0:47:03.480 that kind of solved for that problem. But with these 0:47:03.640 --> 0:47:07.560 wireless chargers, it just goes slow and steady. And for 0:47:07.719 --> 0:47:11.319 the iPhone, the wireless charging on the new phones can 0:47:11.440 --> 0:47:14.480 hit twenty five lots, which is pretty pretty fast. 0:47:16.520 --> 0:47:18.960 How much factor that I mean, okay, ten walk difference 0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:21.560 Let's say between a fifteen minutes or fifteen twenty five 0:47:21.680 --> 0:47:24.960 Let's just say that for measure how much and that. 0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:27.360 Ten wats Like if you were just throwing it on 0:47:27.840 --> 0:47:30.960 a wireless dock for twenty minutes, you're going to probably 0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:34.920 see the difference between like ten or fifteen percent more 0:47:35.120 --> 0:47:38.040 charge on the newer one, right, But then there's the 0:47:38.120 --> 0:47:41.080 wire charging, which if you plug that in and have 0:47:41.920 --> 0:47:44.200 they don't give you the wall charger in the dock. 0:47:44.280 --> 0:47:46.160 But if you get a one of the newer wall 0:47:46.239 --> 0:47:49.000 chargers that's capable of these speeds, you're gonna be able 0:47:49.000 --> 0:47:52.520 to hit fifty percent in twenty minutes on all the phones. 0:47:52.560 --> 0:47:54.720 So in our scene at lab testing, we also tested 0:47:54.800 --> 0:47:58.120 the charging speed and found that Apple's claims of fifty 0:47:58.160 --> 0:48:01.000 percent in twenty minutes where we're ballot, one of them 0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:03.040 hit forty nine. But that's margin of error. 0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:06.080 Right, So yeah, interesting, So yeah, look for that twenty 0:48:06.120 --> 0:48:09.000 five watch charger or the mag safe charger or the 0:48:09.400 --> 0:48:12.120 things for your phone and get the fastest when you can. 0:48:12.160 --> 0:48:13.760 So the more waded, the faster chargers. 0:48:13.800 --> 0:48:15.560 That makes a lot of sense, yeah, because that's a 0:48:15.560 --> 0:48:17.839 big question too, is like, man, my phone doesn't charge 0:48:17.880 --> 0:48:20.160 fast enough, and that that could be wise. Well all right, 0:48:20.200 --> 0:48:22.640 so bottom line here, head into a holiday shopping season, 0:48:22.719 --> 0:48:25.000 maybe gonna last minute Christmas gift wherever it might be 0:48:25.120 --> 0:48:25.760 for the holidays. 0:48:26.040 --> 0:48:27.200 What are you looking at? What'd you get? 0:48:28.640 --> 0:48:28.839 Yeah? 0:48:28.920 --> 0:48:31.320 So I think if we're just for sticking with iPhones, 0:48:31.320 --> 0:48:33.480 I would say that if you want the best battery life, 0:48:33.480 --> 0:48:35.960 you're get to go with the Promac. If you want 0:48:36.000 --> 0:48:39.120 a really good battery life, and we're not talking dramatically 0:48:39.760 --> 0:48:41.960 less than the Promac, I would say, look at the 0:48:42.040 --> 0:48:44.880 iPhone seventeen. It not only costs hundreds of dollars less, 0:48:45.360 --> 0:48:48.080 it has an amazing battery life. And that battery life 0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:50.840 is still better than the iPhone sixteen and the iPhone 0:48:50.880 --> 0:48:53.800 fifteen before it. And definitely as you get to older phones, 0:48:54.120 --> 0:48:57.040 and if you're looking into things like charging, also think 0:48:57.080 --> 0:48:59.680 about accessories. I feel like that's a place where a 0:48:59.760 --> 0:49:01.920 lot of forget. So if you want to take advantage 0:49:01.960 --> 0:49:04.080 of some of these faster speeds, take a look at 0:49:04.080 --> 0:49:05.759 the stuff that you have in your house, or you 0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:08.040 might have to get something from Apple or Amazon that 0:49:08.480 --> 0:49:10.400 supports these faster speeds to really enjoy it. 0:49:10.520 --> 0:49:12.360 Utcha And once again, if you're going Android. 0:49:14.080 --> 0:49:17.120 If you go on Android, I would say the phone 0:49:17.120 --> 0:49:19.880 I would recommend and I hesitated about this is the 0:49:20.480 --> 0:49:23.239 Galaxy S twenty five Ultra. That's going to be a 0:49:24.080 --> 0:49:28.000 very good battery life phone. However, we they traditionally launched 0:49:28.080 --> 0:49:31.200 a new model in January, so I would say, if 0:49:31.239 --> 0:49:34.000 you can wait on buying an Android phone, like for 0:49:34.120 --> 0:49:36.160 a month or two that you're probably going to have 0:49:36.200 --> 0:49:37.799 a new one waiting for you on the other side 0:49:37.840 --> 0:49:40.200 of the new year. And another good one to look 0:49:40.200 --> 0:49:43.520 at is the one plus thirteen. This thing has a 0:49:43.840 --> 0:49:47.480 seven over seven thousand million our battery that's almost one 0:49:47.520 --> 0:49:50.040 and a half times bigger than the iPhone Promax. It 0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:54.360 gets incredible battery life, and it has insane charging speeds. 0:49:54.440 --> 0:49:58.239 It can get eighty lot of wireless charging. And again 0:49:58.280 --> 0:50:00.640 this is a Chinese brand, and out side the US 0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:02.800 that same phone gets one hundred watch. But we have 0:50:02.960 --> 0:50:05.680 some regulations that we have regulations. 0:50:05.760 --> 0:50:10.440 Correct, they don't care about radiation and burns or fires, 0:50:10.560 --> 0:50:15.399 answer and things like that fires in China some regular Now, okay, 0:50:15.440 --> 0:50:19.319 those Now that the the phone that Ted Danson advertises 0:50:19.360 --> 0:50:21.279 for the elderly folks, right, that one that still runs 0:50:21.320 --> 0:50:21.680 on coal. 0:50:21.800 --> 0:50:24.319 Right, I'm sure it does. 0:50:24.800 --> 0:50:26.200 But you know what, four. 0:50:27.640 --> 0:50:28.160 Just numbers. 0:50:28.200 --> 0:50:30.240 I don't need mail, I don't need to take pictures. 0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:32.520 I just need a phone with numbers on it. And 0:50:32.600 --> 0:50:34.799 I've got my numbers in my purse and I type 0:50:34.840 --> 0:50:35.000 them in. 0:50:36.640 --> 0:50:38.919 I say, look to our elders, because I think there's 0:50:38.920 --> 0:50:40.080 something to say about. 0:50:39.880 --> 0:50:40.399 Having a phone. 0:50:40.440 --> 0:50:42.680 That's that's simple, and that you're not on your phone 0:50:42.719 --> 0:50:45.480 all the time. Granted, we're able to run businesses, we're 0:50:45.480 --> 0:50:47.239 able to make movies, we're able to do all these 0:50:47.320 --> 0:50:49.759 amazing things in our phones. But for a lot of us, 0:50:49.920 --> 0:50:51.880 it's a lot of place to go when we're boord 0:50:51.960 --> 0:50:55.280 and get swelled into scrolling and doom scrolling right. 0:50:55.280 --> 0:50:55.799 Right, right, Yeah. 0:50:55.840 --> 0:50:57.920 My mom passed away four years ago and she's still 0:50:57.960 --> 0:50:59.920 at eighty percent on her phone. It's incredible because it's 0:51:00.040 --> 0:51:03.279 like it's just there's nothing else going on here, all right. 0:51:03.360 --> 0:51:05.880 He is Patrick Collin with CNET. Thanks again for the 0:51:05.960 --> 0:51:07.680 I always love your stuff. Man, you guys are great 0:51:07.719 --> 0:51:09.400 and I'll always love having you on, So don't be 0:51:09.440 --> 0:51:09.880 a stranger. 0:51:10.000 --> 0:51:11.640 I appreciate. Thank you so much. 0:51:11.960 --> 0:51:12.359 Take care. 0:51:12.719 --> 0:51:17.120 Crazy story with Denver Broncos linebacker Alex Singleton. He gets 0:51:17.160 --> 0:51:19.640 a NFL you know, random drug test shows up and 0:51:19.719 --> 0:51:21.759 it looks like, wow, you're on steroids or you have 0:51:22.239 --> 0:51:25.200 testicular cancer because your hormonne levels are utivated. He said, well, 0:51:25.239 --> 0:51:27.640 I'm not on steroids. Goes to doctor so right after 0:51:27.680 --> 0:51:29.720 the game on Thursday night, Friday morning, is in surgery 0:51:30.320 --> 0:51:32.680 It's amazing what these screenings can't catch. And that was 0:51:32.760 --> 0:51:35.520 just lucky. Doctor Asanj's on the show. Next to our 0:51:35.640 --> 0:51:38.200 weekly health and fitness segment with him, we'll talk about 0:51:38.239 --> 0:51:41.320 the test you need by age, so in your thirties, forties, fifties, 0:51:41.360 --> 0:51:44.000 sixties and beyond, which ones are necessary, which ones are 0:51:44.040 --> 0:51:46.200 just stupid. We'll get to that just to head Sloaney, 0:51:46.239 --> 0:51:51.040 seven hundred WLW. Scott's phoning back on seven hundred w 0:51:51.440 --> 0:51:54.760 LW Thursday Morning check in kind of a new segment 0:51:54.800 --> 0:51:58.440 of the show. Sanjay Schevacremani is an EIR physician here 0:51:58.480 --> 0:52:02.359 in Cincinnati, but also his entire brand is about health 0:52:02.400 --> 0:52:04.600 and food and fitness, so all those things are interesting 0:52:04.640 --> 0:52:06.640 come together. Not the kind of pushy like do a 0:52:06.680 --> 0:52:09.200 thousand push ups and only eat avocado kind of guy. 0:52:09.239 --> 0:52:10.920 He's like a normal dude. He was talking about a 0:52:10.960 --> 0:52:12.920 favorite steak a minute ago. Son Jay, welcome back. 0:52:12.920 --> 0:52:13.200 How are you? 0:52:13.400 --> 0:52:16.399 It's only morning, Sloan. It's only nine hundred and fifty 0:52:16.440 --> 0:52:18.440 push ups a day for me, not a full thousand. 0:52:18.560 --> 0:52:19.960 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:52:20.040 --> 0:52:22.919 I like some of the men's magazines where I don't 0:52:22.960 --> 0:52:25.799 need to squad a refrigerator I'm good man, I'm good. 0:52:25.840 --> 0:52:26.480 I'm exactly. 0:52:27.400 --> 0:52:29.759 It's an interesting story that just happened on Thursday. Denver 0:52:29.840 --> 0:52:32.640 Bronco linebacker Alex Singleton, if you heard the story, had 0:52:32.760 --> 0:52:35.600 nine tackles on Thursday nights when Friday morning he's in 0:52:35.719 --> 0:52:39.200 surgery for testicular cancer. What had happened is the NFL 0:52:39.239 --> 0:52:41.800 gave me random drug screening tests to do all players, 0:52:41.920 --> 0:52:44.360 and it came back and said, hey, you're positive. And 0:52:44.440 --> 0:52:47.239 he said, well, I know I don't take steroids. The 0:52:47.440 --> 0:52:50.280 only other thing that could be with the raised hormone 0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:54.280 levels is testicular cancer. He went to a physician, he tested. 0:52:54.719 --> 0:52:58.279 It was that he went to surgery and I guess 0:52:58.320 --> 0:53:00.640 he's doing much much better. But no, hear that someone 0:53:00.680 --> 0:53:03.040 young and vibrately an NFL player testicular cass. Had they 0:53:03.120 --> 0:53:05.840 not had that drug screen that could have been fatal. 0:53:06.120 --> 0:53:09.920 Yeah, I mean fortunate, really fortunate and lucky. It's actually 0:53:10.000 --> 0:53:12.880 it reminds me of a story from Reddit about ten 0:53:12.960 --> 0:53:16.919 years ago where a guy posted a pregnancy test strip 0:53:17.080 --> 0:53:20.880 from his girlfriend and it was He's like, I urinated 0:53:21.000 --> 0:53:23.520 on this and it's positive. Isn't this funny? And then 0:53:23.600 --> 0:53:26.160 people chimed in one after another. That's like, hey, get 0:53:26.239 --> 0:53:29.120 checked out. That's probably testicular cancer, right, because of the 0:53:29.200 --> 0:53:31.839 hormones that are secreted when you have it. He saw 0:53:31.880 --> 0:53:34.279 a doctor and then had surgery, and so again it's 0:53:34.320 --> 0:53:38.200 the same lucky thing. The concern being, you know, what 0:53:38.320 --> 0:53:40.560 if it wasn't for that drug test, What if it 0:53:40.680 --> 0:53:46.120 wasn't for him being on a pregnancy test strip, what then? 0:53:46.239 --> 0:53:49.280 And that's the real thing about preventative care is getting 0:53:49.280 --> 0:53:52.720 ahead of things, and not by luck alone, but because you're. 0:53:52.640 --> 0:53:54.080 Pernously doing there. I know there's a lot of things 0:53:54.120 --> 0:53:56.440 in medicine like that. I mean, I'm gonna butcher this 0:53:56.480 --> 0:53:58.600 because it's been a long time. But as I recall, 0:53:58.600 --> 0:54:01.400 I knew someone who was he and I exam and 0:54:01.480 --> 0:54:04.640 they found some doesn't quite look quite right there anyway, 0:54:04.640 --> 0:54:06.080 A long story short, I think there's is there a 0:54:06.080 --> 0:54:09.240 connection between the the ocular nerve or the the eyeball 0:54:09.320 --> 0:54:11.359 and is it delivered the kidney is something along those lines, 0:54:11.400 --> 0:54:13.280 And it turns out it was to be a cancer, 0:54:13.880 --> 0:54:16.000 they will to catch it extremely early simply because the 0:54:16.400 --> 0:54:18.920 optomologist saw something like that doesn't look quite right. 0:54:19.200 --> 0:54:21.800 Yeah, there are links between kind of all the organs 0:54:21.880 --> 0:54:25.200 that the kidneys can change your eyes, change your eyes, 0:54:25.239 --> 0:54:28.279 and so like, yeah, everything's connected and just getting some 0:54:28.600 --> 0:54:31.360 getting yourself looked at can lead to a lot of 0:54:31.480 --> 0:54:34.680 important findings that that can you know, save your life. 0:54:34.800 --> 0:54:36.840 Yeah, and you as an er doc, you see this, 0:54:37.040 --> 0:54:38.759 you know, you see the result of this stuff of 0:54:38.920 --> 0:54:42.040 either the bad luck where you don't catch the stuff 0:54:42.120 --> 0:54:45.080 or people just ignoring the symptoms. You talk about preventative 0:54:45.120 --> 0:54:47.840 measures too. One of the biggest things we're starting to 0:54:47.920 --> 0:54:49.520 learn more about, and I'm a big proponent of, is 0:54:49.560 --> 0:54:49.960 vitamin D. 0:54:50.560 --> 0:54:54.080 Yeah, and this is this is something that has been 0:54:54.120 --> 0:54:56.160 around for a long time that people have talked about 0:54:56.200 --> 0:54:59.160 vitamins and vitamin D and specific But when we think 0:54:59.200 --> 0:55:03.280 about vitamin D usually you think about what it's usually sunshine, 0:55:03.520 --> 0:55:06.319 sunshine and then leading to bone health, and people think 0:55:06.320 --> 0:55:09.080 about calcium and everything. But what we're learning is there 0:55:09.160 --> 0:55:12.680 are so many more benefits to vitamin D and getting 0:55:12.760 --> 0:55:14.839 through that data of what you know, what it helps, 0:55:14.920 --> 0:55:17.279 and what it may not is part of the plan. 0:55:17.440 --> 0:55:19.719 But really, vitamin D seems to be one of the 0:55:19.800 --> 0:55:23.240 most important things that we can measure in our body. 0:55:23.719 --> 0:55:25.640 Is vitamin D going to be the new protein because 0:55:25.640 --> 0:55:27.920 you just said because everything's got protein and the protein 0:55:27.960 --> 0:55:30.320 has extra protein, water with protein and it now cereal 0:55:30.360 --> 0:55:33.080 has extra protein. We're getting protein all the time, which 0:55:33.200 --> 0:55:35.400 is not a bad thing, But are we going to 0:55:35.400 --> 0:55:37.040 have everything with extra vitamin D at it now? 0:55:37.120 --> 0:55:39.800 Because of this, I wouldn't be surprised. So you know, 0:55:40.000 --> 0:55:43.600 in time we'll see. So again, vitamin D healthy for 0:55:43.719 --> 0:55:46.200 bone health. It helps your body get calcium into it, 0:55:46.400 --> 0:55:49.880 phosphorus that goes into your bones. But also it turns 0:55:49.920 --> 0:55:53.440 out that almost every organ in our body has vitamin 0:55:53.520 --> 0:55:56.120 D receptors, So it's not just the bones, it's in 0:55:56.200 --> 0:55:59.160 our brain. So you know, the serotonin that makes you 0:55:59.239 --> 0:56:03.640 happy that relies on vitamin D our heart. There's actually 0:56:03.640 --> 0:56:08.200 a study that just came out about men with that 0:56:08.320 --> 0:56:10.920 I've had a heart attack. If they had their vitamin 0:56:11.000 --> 0:56:14.320 D levels increased to greater than forty they had a 0:56:14.400 --> 0:56:17.800 fifty percent less chance of a second heart attack after that. 0:56:18.320 --> 0:56:20.680 That was just released like a month ago from Inner 0:56:20.719 --> 0:56:23.919 Mountain Health. And so knowing that data, I think there's 0:56:23.960 --> 0:56:26.400 going to be a lot more studies into what vitamin 0:56:26.520 --> 0:56:27.600 D can do to help us. 0:56:28.080 --> 0:56:30.759 Yeah, of all the supplements, is that the one you 0:56:30.840 --> 0:56:31.319 recommend the. 0:56:31.280 --> 0:56:34.960 Most Yeah, of all of them, that would be it. 0:56:35.040 --> 0:56:36.320 I mean there's a lot of stuff out there. We 0:56:36.360 --> 0:56:39.680 talked about zinc last week for getting better, but I'd 0:56:39.719 --> 0:56:42.360 say vitamin D is one of the most things you 0:56:42.440 --> 0:56:43.680 can take for your own health, and. 0:56:43.880 --> 0:56:45.200 Real quick on that to the de belaevor. But what 0:56:45.239 --> 0:56:47.279 about delivery, because there's you know, if gummies, you have 0:56:47.440 --> 0:56:50.439 the typical big giant vitamin, you have the liquid caps 0:56:50.480 --> 0:56:50.920 that I take. 0:56:50.960 --> 0:56:51.000 What. 0:56:51.719 --> 0:56:54.040 Yeah, the liquid caps are great, that all of them 0:56:54.040 --> 0:56:56.239 are fine, the best way that works for you. But 0:56:56.320 --> 0:56:59.120 you want to take the vitamin D three. It can 0:56:59.200 --> 0:57:01.440 come in D two form, but D three is the 0:57:01.480 --> 0:57:05.280 one you want, and really it's hard to get toxic 0:57:05.360 --> 0:57:07.840 on it, right, So these things come in international units. 0:57:08.120 --> 0:57:11.200 If you're taking more than ten thousand international units a 0:57:11.239 --> 0:57:13.320 day for a long time, that can hurt you. But 0:57:13.520 --> 0:57:16.360 usually in the range of like two thousand to four 0:57:16.400 --> 0:57:19.560 thousand and six thousand a day, you're okay. That being said, 0:57:20.040 --> 0:57:22.720 the benefits in that study were really for the people 0:57:22.800 --> 0:57:25.760 who were low to start, and so you do want 0:57:25.760 --> 0:57:28.280 to also get your levels checked so you make sure 0:57:28.400 --> 0:57:30.680 that if you're deficient, you're getting to a good level. 0:57:31.320 --> 0:57:33.400 If you're in a greater than forty range, which I 0:57:33.480 --> 0:57:36.080 know is slow and you're probably around there. Oh if 0:57:36.080 --> 0:57:38.439 you're there and there's less need for it, but you're 0:57:38.480 --> 0:57:40.160 also doing stuff to bring up your vitamin D. 0:57:40.480 --> 0:57:43.640 Yeah, all right. Then there's the different things you can have, right, 0:57:43.680 --> 0:57:46.360 you have, you have D two, D three, you have 0:57:46.720 --> 0:57:48.200 K two. You have all these things right right. 0:57:48.240 --> 0:57:50.720 I mean it's like it's just it's alphabet soup as numericals, 0:57:50.760 --> 0:57:52.880 So really matter as long as you're getting D three, Yeah, 0:57:53.000 --> 0:57:54.840 D three is what you want, and whatever form it 0:57:54.920 --> 0:57:57.280 comes in, you should be Okay. I just I literally 0:57:57.680 --> 0:58:00.760 after seeing that internat and the house study about heart attacks, 0:58:00.840 --> 0:58:02.560 not that I've had a heart attack before, but I 0:58:02.680 --> 0:58:04.840 bought gummies myself. I okay, you know, I didn't think 0:58:04.880 --> 0:58:08.520 about it. But as we enter the cold season, there's 0:58:08.520 --> 0:58:10.680 a couple of things that drop our vitamin D levels. So, 0:58:10.800 --> 0:58:13.960 as you mentioned, the sun is what produces most of 0:58:14.000 --> 0:58:17.000 our vitamin D. It hits our skin, vitamin D is produced. 0:58:17.920 --> 0:58:21.640 But in the winter times November to February in Cincinnati, 0:58:21.760 --> 0:58:24.240 we're not getting the sunlight we need for a couple 0:58:24.280 --> 0:58:26.440 of reasons. One, we're not going out because as we 0:58:26.520 --> 0:58:29.520 all experience, it's cold as heck right now. And then two, 0:58:29.960 --> 0:58:31.800 the sun is actually at a lower angle, so it's 0:58:31.880 --> 0:58:34.400 hitting our body at this weird angle that does not 0:58:34.600 --> 0:58:36.000 produce vitamin D anymore. 0:58:36.000 --> 0:58:37.560 All right, So that's a good start. I'm real quick 0:58:37.600 --> 0:58:40.400 because you know, like like a few minutes. But Sonjay, 0:58:40.520 --> 0:58:42.440 let's talk about the tests that you should be getting 0:58:42.480 --> 0:58:44.360 based on age. You know, twenties, you're having a good 0:58:44.400 --> 0:58:46.040 by the time you get thirty, it's time to start, 0:58:46.360 --> 0:58:49.200 you know, get a base one with what blood pressure, skin, 0:58:49.360 --> 0:58:49.960 that kind of stuff. 0:58:50.120 --> 0:58:51.360 Yeah, that's where we want to be. 0:58:51.440 --> 0:58:53.920 So our bodies are pretty forgiving, as we've all experienced 0:58:53.920 --> 0:58:55.760 in our twenties and thirties. There's a lot of things 0:58:55.840 --> 0:58:57.840 we can do and don't have to do, but it 0:58:58.000 --> 0:59:00.240 is a good time to set up habits. That is, 0:59:00.520 --> 0:59:02.160 you know, seeing a physician or at least having your 0:59:02.160 --> 0:59:06.400 blood pressure checked annually, making sure you like cholesterol is okay, 0:59:06.520 --> 0:59:10.160 and then also developing the habits including you know, good 0:59:10.240 --> 0:59:15.520 dietary lifestyle, but also fitness and and lifting to help 0:59:15.680 --> 0:59:18.560 set yourself up for a longer, higher quality life that'll 0:59:18.600 --> 0:59:19.480 be your twenties. 0:59:19.560 --> 0:59:24.320 And maybe what about things like baseline EKGs diabetes screenings. 0:59:24.320 --> 0:59:25.560 What wage group does that. 0:59:25.560 --> 0:59:28.880 Commend diabetes screening, I'd say is in the It depends 0:59:28.960 --> 0:59:32.040 on your risk factors. You know, if you're if you're obese, 0:59:32.160 --> 0:59:34.520 if you have a family history of diabetes, you want 0:59:34.560 --> 0:59:37.560 to get checked earlier. Usually it's thirties and forties that 0:59:37.720 --> 0:59:42.240 diabetes it is starting to be checked for the most part. 0:59:43.720 --> 0:59:45.600 You know, again, I'm emergency room doctor. 0:59:45.960 --> 0:59:46.800 It is not what you do. 0:59:47.000 --> 0:59:49.960 This is the stuff and so, but what I do 0:59:50.080 --> 0:59:53.200 see is the long long standing effects or the problems 0:59:53.240 --> 0:59:56.840 that develop because people haven't gotten screened or haven't had 0:59:56.920 --> 0:59:59.400 their symptoms managed. And diabetes is one of those things 0:59:59.480 --> 1:00:02.120 that's easy to check for that would be important to 1:00:02.200 --> 1:00:02.640 check early. 1:00:02.840 --> 1:00:05.040 All Right, when you see people coming to the emergencery 1:00:05.160 --> 1:00:08.360 with symptoms, I'd imagine too many times you're not diagnosing 1:00:08.440 --> 1:00:09.760 cancer in the ED right. 1:00:10.240 --> 1:00:13.720 Unfortunately more often than you said. 1:00:14.280 --> 1:00:17.320 So let's let's rewind that. Then that's gonna come probably 1:00:17.360 --> 1:00:19.000 in your sixties fifties, we. 1:00:19.360 --> 1:00:23.760 I mean, that's that's when it's more normal. Yes, but 1:00:23.920 --> 1:00:27.080 I'll tell you I've had twenty year olds diagnosed with 1:00:27.360 --> 1:00:31.920 breast cancer that I've diagnosed with breast cancer, pancreatic cancer. 1:00:32.040 --> 1:00:34.800 It's a terrible one which is even hard to screen for. 1:00:34.960 --> 1:00:37.920 But that that I've diagnosed in forty year olds, it 1:00:38.000 --> 1:00:40.560 can happen at any age, which is not I don't 1:00:40.600 --> 1:00:42.800 mean to be doom and gloom, but it's my reality 1:00:42.840 --> 1:00:45.720 and that's what I see. Yes, it's rare, but these 1:00:45.760 --> 1:00:48.000 are there are certain ones that can be prevented. You 1:00:48.040 --> 1:00:51.240 talked about testicular cancer, So guys, just doing a testicular 1:00:51.320 --> 1:00:55.000 exam annually we can help screen for those women doing 1:00:55.080 --> 1:00:58.080 breast exams that you can screen annually for that before 1:00:58.160 --> 1:01:00.640 we get into the time of mimography stuff. 1:01:00.760 --> 1:01:03.840 Right, so then colon ascoby is the happy time right 1:01:03.880 --> 1:01:07.160 around fifty. But with PSA, with the advanced test, the 1:01:07.200 --> 1:01:09.560 PSA tests and stool tests and stuff like that, has 1:01:09.600 --> 1:01:11.760 that gone the old digit test is that done now? 1:01:12.160 --> 1:01:14.680 So less digit tests now that we have the stool test, 1:01:15.120 --> 1:01:17.720 so fortunately there's less of it. But we still check 1:01:17.800 --> 1:01:22.480 for prostate cancer, you know, manually. Although PSA has has 1:01:22.600 --> 1:01:25.840 shown some promise, it's just not a catch all and 1:01:25.960 --> 1:01:28.360 so your your physician may want to still do the 1:01:28.480 --> 1:01:32.280 digital exam to check your prostate but it's an important 1:01:32.280 --> 1:01:34.560 part still just to screen. It's a it's a thing 1:01:34.680 --> 1:01:37.720 that most men will have by the time they're eighty, 1:01:37.800 --> 1:01:41.440 they will have some form of prosta cancer. But you know, 1:01:41.600 --> 1:01:44.440 for the most part, it's not going to be life threatening. 1:01:44.560 --> 1:01:47.760 That being said, it can be, and so it's always 1:01:47.800 --> 1:01:50.440 good to get it checked and also have someone who 1:01:50.480 --> 1:01:52.200 can put it into context for you because there's a 1:01:52.240 --> 1:01:53.000 lot of noise out there. 1:01:53.080 --> 1:01:54.640 I know a couple of people wouldn't do it and 1:01:54.720 --> 1:01:57.480 then they wind up getting prostate cancer, dying and regretted it. 1:01:57.560 --> 1:01:59.680 I mean, it's certainly something you don't want to have 1:01:59.800 --> 1:01:59.920 to go. 1:02:00.000 --> 1:02:00.080 Oh. 1:02:00.560 --> 1:02:03.880 It's not the highlight of your day either, nor is 1:02:03.920 --> 1:02:06.360 for the patient, but it's one of those necessary things. 1:02:06.600 --> 1:02:06.760 You know. 1:02:06.840 --> 1:02:09.400 Some of these things you see about different types of scans, 1:02:10.480 --> 1:02:12.640 the calcium whatever that is where you've got the blood 1:02:12.640 --> 1:02:14.600 pressure cuff on your ankle and they jump on your 1:02:14.640 --> 1:02:16.959 chest or whatever the hell is done. I was fine, 1:02:16.960 --> 1:02:18.760 I guess I don't know what this is, but Okay, 1:02:18.920 --> 1:02:21.320 there's different tests like that that are offered, and yet 1:02:21.360 --> 1:02:23.160 there are other ones where are like get a full Hey, 1:02:23.200 --> 1:02:25.680 we're gonna be the library with this truck tomorrow for 1:02:25.760 --> 1:02:28.200 two thousand dollars you can get a full body seet 1:02:28.400 --> 1:02:29.400 What do I really need. 1:02:30.360 --> 1:02:33.000 Need is an interesting thing. I hesitate to do the 1:02:33.040 --> 1:02:37.400 full body scans or advise people to get it, just 1:02:37.440 --> 1:02:40.320 because there's so much information there. I'll tell you that, 1:02:40.720 --> 1:02:43.120 like even in our scans we do in the emergency 1:02:43.160 --> 1:02:46.360 department for reasons for symptoms, we'll find a lot of 1:02:47.040 --> 1:02:49.880 what we call incidental lomas, things that we find just 1:02:49.960 --> 1:02:52.840 by accident that probably don't mean anything. 1:02:52.560 --> 1:02:55.640 Probably benign exactly, but would work a. 1:02:55.720 --> 1:02:57.800 Patient up and and you know then they may have 1:02:57.960 --> 1:03:01.400 unnecessary scans to follow that up. Said, occasionally we do 1:03:01.560 --> 1:03:04.680 find something that needs follow up, but for the most part, 1:03:04.720 --> 1:03:07.720 we're finding more things than we need to with those 1:03:07.800 --> 1:03:10.400 full body scans. That being said, there's things like the 1:03:10.480 --> 1:03:15.040 DEXA scan, which is very low radiation X ray for 1:03:15.160 --> 1:03:17.400 the whole body that tells you a good idea about 1:03:17.400 --> 1:03:19.520 how your bone health is, how your muscle health is, 1:03:19.680 --> 1:03:21.640 and how much kind of fat you have on you 1:03:22.480 --> 1:03:25.120 And those are cheaper. They're usually run about one hundred 1:03:25.160 --> 1:03:29.080 dollars and they're definitely gaining popularity as far as getting 1:03:29.120 --> 1:03:30.920 an idea of where you are, and a lot of 1:03:30.920 --> 1:03:31.520 places are. 1:03:31.440 --> 1:03:34.080 Offering, especially for women in their sixties and sixty five. 1:03:33.960 --> 1:03:36.120 And for sure, and that's kind of where it started, 1:03:36.280 --> 1:03:39.680 was to check FROs your porosis, so basically thinning bones. 1:03:40.480 --> 1:03:43.080 But now they've they've found ways to actually expand that 1:03:43.280 --> 1:03:45.920 to say how much lean muscle mass do I have? 1:03:46.320 --> 1:03:48.560 And that can be that is an important part as 1:03:48.600 --> 1:03:50.919 we're learning more and more. You mentioned protein earlier, Yeah, 1:03:51.400 --> 1:03:53.800 it is an important part of our lives, is are 1:03:54.320 --> 1:03:55.480 how much muscle mass. 1:03:55.320 --> 1:03:55.640 Do we have? 1:03:56.360 --> 1:03:56.560 Yeah? 1:03:56.680 --> 1:03:58.240 I mean it's fascinating because you see these tests and go, 1:03:58.440 --> 1:04:00.040 I really need that. I know someone had added and 1:04:00.080 --> 1:04:02.280 I think the problem with that is it's so granular, 1:04:02.360 --> 1:04:05.640 right is if you looked at the human skeleton, which 1:04:05.680 --> 1:04:07.840 is pretty clean, but you know, as you know, if 1:04:07.880 --> 1:04:09.640 you look at the imaging of body, you're going to 1:04:09.680 --> 1:04:12.920 have inperfections all over. Nothing is exactly the same in everybody. 1:04:12.920 --> 1:04:14.480 And then it's going to cause you to go, oh 1:04:14.520 --> 1:04:16.320 my god, it's a tumor. Well, it's probably not a 1:04:16.400 --> 1:04:20.280 tumor exactly. It could lead you down a. 1:04:20.400 --> 1:04:22.280 Dark place, spend a lot of money for tests you 1:04:22.320 --> 1:04:25.400 don't need exactly, but there there is some valuable information. 1:04:25.480 --> 1:04:27.480 But it's also important to have someone that can help 1:04:27.520 --> 1:04:30.760 you interpret that to go forward, whether it be if 1:04:30.800 --> 1:04:32.840 you get this done. You know, I know some medspas 1:04:32.880 --> 1:04:35.640 offer it, but your primary care doctor can do it too, 1:04:35.800 --> 1:04:38.600 and so someone to help you interpret what it means 1:04:39.200 --> 1:04:40.880 so you can make the lifestyle changes you need. 1:04:41.080 --> 1:04:44.720 Perfect son Jay Shevacrimani. He's our expert on Scotsland. Shi 1:04:44.800 --> 1:04:47.440 the Fitness Guy. Fitness Doc at dine Well Doc is 1:04:47.480 --> 1:04:50.040 his handle on social health, food, fitness and more and 1:04:50.120 --> 1:04:52.280 he pops in every Thursday morning and talk about this stuff. 1:04:52.320 --> 1:04:52.440 Good. 1:04:52.640 --> 1:04:53.160 Good than man. 1:04:53.240 --> 1:04:54.920 Good to see you again, Graty, Thank you for popping in. 1:04:54.960 --> 1:04:55.440 Appreciate it. 1:04:55.480 --> 1:04:56.600 I got to get a time in it because we 1:04:56.680 --> 1:04:58.400 got news on the way in just about four minutes 1:04:59.200 --> 1:05:01.240 and we're I turned the shit you know Peachins here 1:05:01.280 --> 1:05:02.919 from Epstein Justice dot com. 1:05:03.280 --> 1:05:03.440 Man. 1:05:03.480 --> 1:05:06.320 I'll tell you what the bad part, the awful part 1:05:06.360 --> 1:05:08.880 about partisan politics is now you've got to defend people 1:05:08.920 --> 1:05:11.720 on your team instead of finding out what the real 1:05:11.760 --> 1:05:13.280 truth is. We'll get into that coming up next on 1:05:13.320 --> 1:05:15.040 the show seven hundred WW Cincinnati. 1:05:15.280 --> 1:05:15.760 Don't want to. 1:05:18.240 --> 1:05:20.360 Scott Flow here seven hundred WLW. 1:05:20.720 --> 1:05:22.480 A couple of big stories going on of course, the 1:05:22.600 --> 1:05:25.959 government reopening, and you wonder the timing of that, along 1:05:26.000 --> 1:05:27.920 with the fact that the Democrats in the House Oversight 1:05:27.960 --> 1:05:30.320 Committee dumped a whole bunch of emails, including one from 1:05:30.360 --> 1:05:34.000 twenty nineteen which Jeffrey Epstein alleges that President Trump quote 1:05:34.080 --> 1:05:37.560 knew about the girls behind the scenes. You had a 1:05:37.600 --> 1:05:41.320 bunch of administration officials meeting with representatives they thought vulnerable. 1:05:41.360 --> 1:05:44.720 Do would agree Representative Lauren Bobert maybe not vulnerable. Those 1:05:44.720 --> 1:05:47.200 who want to play ball met with her about the 1:05:47.240 --> 1:05:49.120 effort to force a House vote. 1:05:48.920 --> 1:05:50.280 On the release. They tried to get her to pull 1:05:50.280 --> 1:05:51.280 her name. She refused. 1:05:51.720 --> 1:05:54.800 She's one of four Republicans, including Kentucky's Thomas Massey, to 1:05:54.920 --> 1:05:58.240 go against the party, which I think is interesting because 1:05:58.280 --> 1:06:00.680 we talked about transparency and let's release the records on 1:06:00.760 --> 1:06:02.880 the campaign trail, and then when your name is in there, 1:06:02.920 --> 1:06:04.680 all of a sudden, well maybe not so much. But 1:06:05.040 --> 1:06:07.160 on the other hand, you wonder how many Democrats are there, 1:06:07.240 --> 1:06:09.600 because that committee is going to be very selective about 1:06:09.640 --> 1:06:13.160 the records they release. Republicans dropped about twenty thousand on 1:06:13.240 --> 1:06:14.720 their own as well, and you wonder what names are 1:06:14.760 --> 1:06:16.640 in there. I'm in the camp of just release it 1:06:16.680 --> 1:06:18.960 all and let's figure it out. He's Pete chin Now, 1:06:19.120 --> 1:06:21.560 founder of epstein Justice dot Com. And I like it 1:06:21.640 --> 1:06:25.880 because they're a nonpartisan organization, grassroots, a bunch of folks 1:06:25.880 --> 1:06:28.080 who got together sick and tired of this and sickened 1:06:28.120 --> 1:06:30.680 by the fact that young women in particular are being 1:06:30.800 --> 1:06:34.160 victimized by the wealthy and powerful and connected, and it's 1:06:34.200 --> 1:06:37.120 been a conspiracy for a long time, and so it 1:06:37.240 --> 1:06:39.000 just wants to get the truth. I think you're with 1:06:39.080 --> 1:06:41.200 me on that peak. Just looking through your site quickly here. 1:06:41.280 --> 1:06:44.520 First of all, welcome. Secondly, I look at it and go, 1:06:44.640 --> 1:06:47.200 you know, just we'll release it all. And there's going 1:06:47.240 --> 1:06:49.680 to be Democrats, Republicans and a whole bunch of people 1:06:49.680 --> 1:06:51.320 who are caught up in this thing. But again, it 1:06:51.400 --> 1:06:54.880 gets to show you the protectionism that power affords. 1:06:55.840 --> 1:06:58.760 No question about it, Scott. And first of all, thanks 1:06:58.800 --> 1:06:59.480 of all, thanks for. 1:06:59.480 --> 1:06:59.880 Having me on. 1:07:00.120 --> 1:07:03.280 And second of all, you're right. This issue isn't going away. 1:07:03.360 --> 1:07:06.080 And the reason it's not going away is because the majority, 1:07:06.120 --> 1:07:08.640 and I mean a vast majority of the American people 1:07:09.040 --> 1:07:13.080 of both parties and those of no party all agree 1:07:13.520 --> 1:07:16.560 that transparency is the only thing that is going to 1:07:16.920 --> 1:07:19.960 sunlight is going to be the only disinfectant that can 1:07:20.080 --> 1:07:24.000 possibly erase this stain. What I call it is a 1:07:24.080 --> 1:07:27.600 stain on the Republic. We actually don't know, and this 1:07:27.840 --> 1:07:31.040 is the big problem, Scott. We don't actually know how 1:07:31.120 --> 1:07:34.360 far the corruption goes, how deep it went, who all 1:07:34.520 --> 1:07:37.960 was involved, who got paid, who was where did the 1:07:38.040 --> 1:07:41.360 money come from, and where did it all go. And 1:07:41.520 --> 1:07:43.720 at the end of the day, Scott, at the end 1:07:43.720 --> 1:07:46.240 of the day, what's most important to Epstein Justice and 1:07:46.360 --> 1:07:50.680 Epstein Justice dot Com is that these victims finally get 1:07:51.000 --> 1:07:53.960 some sense of justice. You know, this is the largest 1:07:54.000 --> 1:07:59.800 potentially child sex trafficking operation that's ever existed on US soil, 1:08:00.160 --> 1:08:01.560 and the only person that has. 1:08:01.480 --> 1:08:03.840 Faced any kind of punishment is Dwayne. 1:08:03.600 --> 1:08:07.360 Maxwell, and she's currently at the Pushift federal facility we have, 1:08:07.600 --> 1:08:11.440 having been transferred from one only slightly more onerous. So 1:08:11.840 --> 1:08:14.280 we've got a problem. In the United States. The vast 1:08:14.400 --> 1:08:19.960 majority of both parties and those of no party want proof, 1:08:20.240 --> 1:08:23.719 they want transparency, and they want these files released because 1:08:23.960 --> 1:08:27.720 irrespective of which party is involved, and let's face it, 1:08:27.800 --> 1:08:31.479 we both know that members of both parties are likely involved. 1:08:31.760 --> 1:08:34.640 Whoever is involved should have their name exposed and at 1:08:34.680 --> 1:08:41.080 a minimum subjected to public approbation. But perhaps there should 1:08:41.080 --> 1:08:43.439 be some legal consequences for some of these folks too, 1:08:43.479 --> 1:08:46.960 who facilitated the movement of money, who facilitated the movement 1:08:47.040 --> 1:08:51.280 of people. And at this point, only one person has 1:08:51.320 --> 1:08:54.879 faced any sort of consequences, And it is a national 1:08:55.400 --> 1:08:58.559 crisis in part because we don't actually know what Jeffrey 1:08:58.600 --> 1:09:02.000 Epstein's full motivations were. Was he sponsored by a government? 1:09:02.240 --> 1:09:04.879 How did he become to be a near billionaire himself, 1:09:05.400 --> 1:09:08.080 a guy who had parents that were middle class people 1:09:08.120 --> 1:09:11.040 in Queen's We don't know the answers to these questions, 1:09:11.200 --> 1:09:14.200 but the American people know one thing, Scott. There's something 1:09:14.439 --> 1:09:18.600 rotten here and it's not going to get dealt with 1:09:19.120 --> 1:09:21.439 by any other way than getting to all the facts. 1:09:21.560 --> 1:09:24.120 Well, this is this is an indictment. 1:09:24.120 --> 1:09:26.879 I think of our political parties that both are protecting 1:09:27.160 --> 1:09:28.920 their their own kind. And we'll get into that in 1:09:28.920 --> 1:09:31.680 a second, but let's get to these email releases here 1:09:32.280 --> 1:09:34.800 that just came out so democratical. 1:09:34.840 --> 1:09:35.360 These emails. 1:09:35.400 --> 1:09:37.400 Epstein wrote that Trump knew about the girls, and Trump 1:09:37.479 --> 1:09:41.040 asked Helene to stop and there's one in twenty eleven, 1:09:41.479 --> 1:09:43.559 and this is the cryptic one. And you've studied all 1:09:43.600 --> 1:09:46.200 of this documentation. There's a lot of six stuff in 1:09:46.320 --> 1:09:48.920 the Epstein files if you look under the hood, and 1:09:48.960 --> 1:09:51.880 it's it's horrible. But wrote at one time, I want 1:09:51.880 --> 1:09:54.960 you to realize that the dog in that the I 1:09:55.080 --> 1:09:58.000 want you to realize that the dog has embarked in 1:09:58.040 --> 1:10:01.439 Trump and he's hours at my house with him. He's 1:10:01.520 --> 1:10:04.600 never once been mentioned. You hear those communications. What's your 1:10:04.600 --> 1:10:06.720 analysis and what does that mean about the dog? 1:10:08.160 --> 1:10:11.920 I think all of that means is that President Trump 1:10:12.160 --> 1:10:17.000 had knowledge that Jeffrey Epstein liked underage girls. But you 1:10:17.080 --> 1:10:20.080 know what, that shouldn't really be any sort of mystery. 1:10:20.400 --> 1:10:23.519 He disclosed in a New Yorker article in two thousand 1:10:23.520 --> 1:10:25.920 and two that Jeffrey Epstein's a lot of fun. He 1:10:26.120 --> 1:10:26.559 likes girls. 1:10:26.640 --> 1:10:27.400 Some say he likes. 1:10:27.280 --> 1:10:30.040 Beautiful women as much as I do, some even on 1:10:30.200 --> 1:10:33.639 the younger side. Now, President Trump ran the miss Kean 1:10:33.800 --> 1:10:37.320 US faith aagint, so for him to say that Jeffrey 1:10:37.320 --> 1:10:40.400 Epstein likes women on the younger side or girls on 1:10:40.479 --> 1:10:43.320 the younger side, that tells you that he had knowledge. 1:10:43.680 --> 1:10:48.240 But then again, almost all of the elites in public 1:10:48.400 --> 1:10:53.519 life had knowledge that Jeffrey Epstein was a child sex trafficker. 1:10:53.760 --> 1:10:57.840 This was one of the most open secrets in American society, 1:10:58.320 --> 1:11:03.519 and people as high as Bill Clinton listen. This spans, 1:11:04.200 --> 1:11:07.120 This corruption spans the administrations going all the way back 1:11:07.160 --> 1:11:10.960 to George W. Bush and encompass encompasses all of them, 1:11:11.200 --> 1:11:14.680 both Democrat and Republican, across that time period. It was 1:11:14.720 --> 1:11:18.800 the George W. Bush administration that allowed Jeffrey Epstein to 1:11:18.880 --> 1:11:22.200 receive a sweetheart deal instead of getting buried under the 1:11:22.240 --> 1:11:25.960 prison for the clear evidence that they had of child 1:11:26.040 --> 1:11:30.080 sex trafficking. They had dozens of affidavits against him, did 1:11:30.120 --> 1:11:33.519 the Palm City police. No one was more frustrated by 1:11:33.560 --> 1:11:36.240 the outcome of that case than the police, who corrupt 1:11:36.240 --> 1:11:39.600 plected all of the evidence against him, which was and 1:11:39.800 --> 1:11:45.240 still remains substantial. So questions that remain about how that 1:11:45.400 --> 1:11:47.360 happened in two thousand and five under the George W. 1:11:47.520 --> 1:11:51.160 Bush administration haven't been answered, much less why the whole 1:11:51.200 --> 1:11:54.960 situation was ignored under two terms of Obama, a term 1:11:55.000 --> 1:11:57.960 of Biden, and of course President Trump's first term as well. 1:11:58.400 --> 1:12:01.639 When Jeffrey Trump was re arrested. Why would Jeffrey Trump 1:12:01.680 --> 1:12:03.960 re arrest it? We still literally don't have a good 1:12:04.000 --> 1:12:04.680 insight into that. 1:12:05.760 --> 1:12:09.040 There were questions and answers, largely because, well, you know, 1:12:09.160 --> 1:12:11.280 we have those no Kings protests and are you followed 1:12:11.280 --> 1:12:14.000 any of that stuff? I'll laugh, because you know, it's 1:12:14.000 --> 1:12:16.160 a lot of the same things that they're protesting against 1:12:16.320 --> 1:12:18.880 their own party does and general that's Democrats. But I 1:12:19.000 --> 1:12:22.120 think people don't realize that this is a different class 1:12:22.160 --> 1:12:25.719 of people entirely. Not necessarily the deep state stuff because 1:12:26.040 --> 1:12:29.080 that goes with the territory, but the fact that the rich, 1:12:29.160 --> 1:12:31.120 the elite, the powerful are connected and they swim in 1:12:31.160 --> 1:12:31.960 the same fish. 1:12:32.040 --> 1:12:34.280 Take. You think it's about politics, it's not. It's about 1:12:34.400 --> 1:12:34.880 us and them. 1:12:35.840 --> 1:12:38.240 And I think most Americans want to see all these 1:12:38.280 --> 1:12:41.160 documents released now. The twenty thousand released by the Republicans 1:12:42.720 --> 1:12:45.360 a huge document dump. The same day Democrats release these 1:12:45.520 --> 1:12:46.200 three emails. 1:12:46.720 --> 1:12:48.280 What's in that? Have you looked through it? 1:12:49.920 --> 1:12:53.160 I certainly haven't had time to four through twenty thousand 1:12:53.200 --> 1:12:55.840 pages the email, But what I have done is I've 1:12:55.840 --> 1:12:58.320 reviewed some of the coverage of it, and the reality 1:12:58.439 --> 1:13:04.280 is that this is this document dump without any real investigation. 1:13:04.520 --> 1:13:05.479 Just here's raw files. 1:13:05.520 --> 1:13:05.920 Here they are. 1:13:06.920 --> 1:13:09.639 This is why we at Epstein Justice. We're not calling 1:13:09.760 --> 1:13:12.640 for simply a release of the files. We're calling for 1:13:12.800 --> 1:13:17.960 a non partisan congressional investigation that would involve members of 1:13:18.040 --> 1:13:21.680 both parties acting in good faith to expose this and 1:13:22.280 --> 1:13:25.240 in reality, creating such a commission only requires a simple 1:13:25.320 --> 1:13:28.679 majority of both parties, but it requires a good faith 1:13:28.760 --> 1:13:31.559 willingness on the members of Congress to hold the executive 1:13:31.600 --> 1:13:35.720 branch to account. Look, this has covered both administrations, so 1:13:36.680 --> 1:13:40.639 or rather both parties over multiple administrations. So this really 1:13:40.760 --> 1:13:42.840 is a non partisan issue, which is why we are 1:13:42.880 --> 1:13:46.360 a non partisan organization. If you wanted to put some 1:13:46.560 --> 1:13:48.479 kind of label on it, it's like you said, it's 1:13:48.600 --> 1:13:50.519 us in them. If you wanted to get fancy, you 1:13:50.560 --> 1:13:53.280 could call it a class issue, because it really is. 1:13:53.880 --> 1:13:58.240 It's the wealthy people. I mean, we can't live in 1:13:58.360 --> 1:14:02.360 a country scott where billionaires can take our daughters and 1:14:02.479 --> 1:14:05.920 rape them with impunity and face no consequences. That's what 1:14:06.080 --> 1:14:09.320 we're talking about, and that's why we have to fight 1:14:09.400 --> 1:14:12.840 as Americans, and we urge every American to call their 1:14:12.920 --> 1:14:15.360 member of Congress, both in the Senate and in the 1:14:15.479 --> 1:14:19.080 House and say, hey, we demand you members of Congress 1:14:19.360 --> 1:14:23.240 do your jobs, form a commission and investigate this on 1:14:23.360 --> 1:14:26.400 a nonpartisan basis, so all the facts can come to life, 1:14:26.680 --> 1:14:30.080 and those who need to be held accountable can finally 1:14:30.080 --> 1:14:33.320 be held accountable. So Scott, we can finally get some 1:14:33.840 --> 1:14:37.599 sense of justice for the dozens, perhaps hundreds. In fact, 1:14:37.640 --> 1:14:41.240 the Department of Justice says over a thousand victims of 1:14:41.360 --> 1:14:44.160 Jeffrey Epstein's criminal child sex trafficking network. 1:14:44.280 --> 1:14:46.400 Yeah, I mean, here's here's the thing with and this 1:14:46.479 --> 1:14:48.080 says a lot to me and base and of course 1:14:48.120 --> 1:14:50.760 the politics of it behind the scenes, but even more 1:14:50.800 --> 1:14:53.000 so than that, I look at it and go, okay, well, 1:14:53.080 --> 1:14:55.599 Trump says, hey, there's nothing here, don't worry about It's 1:14:55.600 --> 1:14:58.680 a nothing burger, no big deal. On the trail, he's 1:14:58.680 --> 1:15:00.920 gonna we're gonna work, going to dump all this stuff. 1:15:00.960 --> 1:15:04.719 And of course back those backed up from that position. 1:15:04.880 --> 1:15:08.160 But you look at maxwell statement about Trump and she 1:15:08.240 --> 1:15:10.640 said I never saw him in any appropriate setting. You 1:15:10.760 --> 1:15:13.479 saw what Jeffria said before she took her own life, 1:15:13.520 --> 1:15:15.040 and say, you know, Trump is it's fine. 1:15:16.720 --> 1:15:18.840 If that's the case, then you think you'd have nothing 1:15:18.880 --> 1:15:19.240 to hide. 1:15:19.240 --> 1:15:23.040 Then well, and that's that's part of the irony, isn't 1:15:23.040 --> 1:15:26.800 It's got that if you ask the executive branch. And 1:15:26.920 --> 1:15:29.479 by the way, my last job in the Air Force 1:15:29.640 --> 1:15:31.920 was I was a liaison from the executive branch to 1:15:31.960 --> 1:15:34.400 the congressional branch. Which is why I can tell you 1:15:34.479 --> 1:15:38.120 with some authority that the executive branch's official position on 1:15:38.280 --> 1:15:42.000 everything is don't tell Congress anything. And so this is 1:15:42.080 --> 1:15:45.000 why Congress has to force the executive branch really to 1:15:45.080 --> 1:15:48.760 disclose much of anything, because it's the executive branch's view. 1:15:49.040 --> 1:15:52.200 And this is again across administrations, it's not exclusive to 1:15:52.240 --> 1:15:55.800 the Trump administration. But the executive branch's view is that, hey, 1:15:56.120 --> 1:15:58.680 we need this information to be We don't want to 1:15:58.720 --> 1:16:02.519 disclose anything that might embarrass the government, that might embarrass 1:16:02.600 --> 1:16:05.439 any powerful officials. We don't want to dispose anything that 1:16:05.600 --> 1:16:10.320 might harm national security, whatever that means, and so and 1:16:10.439 --> 1:16:14.360 so it's the executive branch's role to keep secrets. Well, 1:16:14.520 --> 1:16:19.080 it's the Congress's role. It's the congressional branch's role to 1:16:19.240 --> 1:16:22.320 get the executive branch to disclose those secrets. And that's 1:16:22.800 --> 1:16:23.840 and it's as simple as that. 1:16:23.960 --> 1:16:24.599 In our system. 1:16:25.479 --> 1:16:28.599 But the issue though is that in order to get 1:16:28.680 --> 1:16:33.040 Congress to do their job, especially these days, you have 1:16:33.240 --> 1:16:35.880 to have a mass movement, a real mass movement, not 1:16:36.160 --> 1:16:38.479 one that's AstroTurf with fake money. And by the way, 1:16:38.600 --> 1:16:42.559 we don't have any money. This is all a grassroots effort. 1:16:42.920 --> 1:16:45.120 We're all volunteers. None of us are getting paid, you 1:16:45.160 --> 1:16:50.519 can believe that. And so and so we're trying to 1:16:50.720 --> 1:16:54.360 urge every American to say, look, this just isn't tolerable. 1:16:54.680 --> 1:16:57.000 We need the facts in this case. And I believe 1:16:57.040 --> 1:17:01.040 that if every American comes together and frankly, the show 1:17:01.080 --> 1:17:04.880 that as many as eighty percent of all Americans and 1:17:05.120 --> 1:17:08.960 this cuts across party lines, think that the Epstein file 1:17:09.040 --> 1:17:11.240 should be fully related and that this matter should be 1:17:11.360 --> 1:17:12.200 fully investigat. 1:17:12.200 --> 1:17:12.879 No question. 1:17:14.840 --> 1:17:16.960 Is with Epstein Justice dot Com. He's a found we're 1:17:16.960 --> 1:17:19.280 talking about this, this document done. But that's the problem, right, 1:17:19.320 --> 1:17:21.040 I mean, there are so many people, not not all, 1:17:21.120 --> 1:17:23.760 but so many people on Trump's side that are just 1:17:23.840 --> 1:17:26.679 silent about this whole thing, and of course Speaker Johnson 1:17:26.800 --> 1:17:29.680 trying his best to subvert this whole process. It shows you, 1:17:29.840 --> 1:17:33.080 as you just described, the partisanship in Washington that's killing us. 1:17:33.439 --> 1:17:37.799 If you can't get justice for underage girls of victims 1:17:37.840 --> 1:17:38.480 of pedophilia. 1:17:38.560 --> 1:17:39.439 Let's call it what it is. 1:17:40.040 --> 1:17:42.439 Then you start to lose hope here because it's so 1:17:42.600 --> 1:17:45.280 partisan and so divided. We'll protect our own at all costs, 1:17:46.479 --> 1:17:48.080 and you look at the effect we had with this 1:17:48.160 --> 1:17:51.040 government shutdown. Congress has one job. Their job is to 1:17:51.080 --> 1:17:52.960 pass a budget. I have only done it twice in 1:17:53.040 --> 1:17:53.639 my lifetime. 1:17:53.680 --> 1:17:54.400 We allow that to. 1:17:54.439 --> 1:17:58.560 Occur as voters, as taxpayers, as citizens. The fact that 1:17:58.680 --> 1:18:01.320 we have completely given the authority to the executive branch 1:18:01.400 --> 1:18:02.920 and taken away Congress is factless. 1:18:03.000 --> 1:18:03.839 They don't do anything. 1:18:04.479 --> 1:18:06.639 Everything is done, and it was on Biden and it's 1:18:06.640 --> 1:18:10.559 also on Trump relative to executive order. And so if 1:18:10.600 --> 1:18:12.760 you just have executive orders coming out, you don't really 1:18:12.800 --> 1:18:13.599 don't need Congress. 1:18:13.640 --> 1:18:14.400 And that's the problem. 1:18:14.479 --> 1:18:18.920 They don't want to do their job basically and oversee 1:18:18.960 --> 1:18:20.880 the executive branch when their person's in power. 1:18:22.280 --> 1:18:24.559 I agree with you, and that's become a huge problem. 1:18:24.640 --> 1:18:26.720 But at the end of the day, I still am 1:18:26.760 --> 1:18:30.400 a believer in the American system. I fought for this country. 1:18:30.439 --> 1:18:32.640 I served in uniform for thirty six years. I'm a 1:18:32.680 --> 1:18:36.760 combat veteran, and I believe in our constitution. That's what 1:18:36.840 --> 1:18:38.439 I swore an oath too, That's what I fought for, 1:18:39.080 --> 1:18:41.840 and I still believe in that document, and I still 1:18:41.920 --> 1:18:46.720 believe that in America, the average citizen, banded together with 1:18:46.960 --> 1:18:51.040 his fellow American citizens, can have an impact and make 1:18:51.240 --> 1:18:55.639 our Congress do what we want them to do. Because ultimately, 1:18:55.720 --> 1:18:58.479 you're right, Scott, if we don't have a Congress that 1:18:58.680 --> 1:19:01.920 is willing to act in accord with the overwhelming will 1:19:02.080 --> 1:19:04.640 of the American people than what we have as an 1:19:04.680 --> 1:19:07.960 authoritarian say, and nobody wants to live in a country 1:19:08.000 --> 1:19:12.200 that's not a democracy. We are America. We get things 1:19:12.280 --> 1:19:15.679 done because we've been together as people and we decide 1:19:15.960 --> 1:19:17.960 that we're going to do what's right. We've done it 1:19:18.040 --> 1:19:20.160 for two hundred and fifty years, and we're going to 1:19:20.200 --> 1:19:21.880 do it in this case. I believe that, and I'm 1:19:21.880 --> 1:19:24.840 gonna I'm gonna let I mean, I know that's an 1:19:24.920 --> 1:19:28.920 upbeat and optimistic note story this dark, but you know, 1:19:28.960 --> 1:19:30.760 I wouldn't be doing this, Scott, if I didn't believe 1:19:30.800 --> 1:19:33.559 it was possible. You know, great changes in America take 1:19:33.640 --> 1:19:37.120 great effort, and they take a long time, and oftentimes 1:19:37.160 --> 1:19:39.160 they take money which is something we don't have. You know, 1:19:39.640 --> 1:19:42.040 my co founder doesn't like to talk about raising money, 1:19:42.320 --> 1:19:44.640 but I have to tell you billionaires aren't taking our 1:19:44.760 --> 1:19:49.200 fall Scott, and they're not interested in this. They're interested 1:19:49.240 --> 1:19:52.200 in covering this up. So if anybody would like to 1:19:52.240 --> 1:19:54.439 go to Epsteinjustice dot com and make a donation, we 1:19:54.479 --> 1:19:57.200 would certainly welcome that to help continue these efforts in 1:19:57.240 --> 1:19:57.679 this work. 1:19:57.840 --> 1:20:00.599 Yeah, well, God bless it's a grassroots effort. Any money 1:20:00.640 --> 1:20:02.559 off this and I just just get the truth out. 1:20:02.560 --> 1:20:04.120 I think I speak for a lot of people going, 1:20:04.520 --> 1:20:06.280 let's find out what's in there, who's in there, and 1:20:06.400 --> 1:20:08.639 we'll make our own minds up and let justice take course. 1:20:08.680 --> 1:20:11.160 But this is not justice, not at all. Peach In 1:20:11.240 --> 1:20:13.439 at Epstein Justice dot com. Thanks for the input I 1:20:13.479 --> 1:20:15.160 appreciated got. 1:20:15.320 --> 1:20:16.840 Thanks for having me. I look forward to talking to 1:20:16.840 --> 1:20:17.559 you again sometimes. 1:20:17.600 --> 1:20:20.080 Yes, sir, I thought it was excellent, was really really good. 1:20:20.280 --> 1:20:20.439 Yeah. 1:20:20.479 --> 1:20:22.439 A lot more questions and answers right now, And the 1:20:22.560 --> 1:20:25.320 politics behind the scene is icky. You know, I don't 1:20:25.360 --> 1:20:29.280 know quite honestly. I for those people who believe in 1:20:29.360 --> 1:20:32.880 God and family and country, those thing three things are 1:20:32.920 --> 1:20:36.920 coming together right now. I don't understand As someone who 1:20:37.280 --> 1:20:41.360 votes generally Republican, I tend to be more independent and 1:20:41.400 --> 1:20:43.240 make my own mind up and more to libertarian. But 1:20:43.520 --> 1:20:46.599 not many libertarian candidates on the ballot. But even there's 1:20:46.680 --> 1:20:49.760 problems with libertarian candidates. What about just doing the right 1:20:49.840 --> 1:20:54.479 thing and putting kids over politics. And yet there's a 1:20:54.520 --> 1:20:56.080 lot of people in our government and a lot of 1:20:56.200 --> 1:20:58.000 enablers that will look the other waiter in this end 1:20:58.000 --> 1:21:00.680 there's nothing there. Because while I was told there's nothing there, 1:21:01.479 --> 1:21:03.240 I didn't buy that with a Catholic church. I'm not 1:21:03.320 --> 1:21:07.599 buying it with my government. Scott's Sloan Show, seven hundred 1:21:07.640 --> 1:21:08.120 W Wealthy. 1:21:09.400 --> 1:21:12.160 The buying and selling of homes isn't for the timid 1:21:12.320 --> 1:21:15.320 or meek. The real estate world can be a vicious 1:21:15.479 --> 1:21:18.759 jungle playing with dangers and pitfall. 1:21:18.800 --> 1:21:19.080 Boss. 1:21:19.800 --> 1:21:24.720 Thank god we've got Remax time agent Michelle Sloane, the 1:21:24.840 --> 1:21:28.560 Fearless Real Tour of Sloan sells Homes dot Com, and 1:21:28.720 --> 1:21:33.000 the Queen of the real estate Jungle. It's real Estate Time, 1:21:33.000 --> 1:21:36.639 which Michelle Sloane on seven hundred W l Jelli, Hey, 1:21:36.720 --> 1:21:37.560 good morning, what's going on? 1:21:38.720 --> 1:21:44.599 Well? Hello, the sun is shining. The UH shutdown is over? 1:21:44.880 --> 1:21:46.400 Did you see the northern light last night. 1:21:47.320 --> 1:21:48.120 No, I was sleeping. 1:21:50.040 --> 1:21:51.519 It's on the story the other morning. It's like you 1:21:51.720 --> 1:21:53.599 looking out the window, going, I don't see the northern lights. 1:21:53.640 --> 1:21:54.360 You know it's because you're what. 1:21:54.680 --> 1:21:54.920 You know what? 1:21:55.560 --> 1:21:57.880 It wasn't looking No, I wasn't looking south. 1:21:58.080 --> 1:21:58.400 You know what? 1:21:58.720 --> 1:22:02.400 It is not south out that window. It's still in 1:22:02.520 --> 1:22:05.559 the northerly either north or south. 1:22:05.600 --> 1:22:09.639 There's no near near north. It's almost north. It's almost north, 1:22:09.680 --> 1:22:16.200 halfway between north and south of the east or west. Yeah, anyway, anyway, 1:22:16.479 --> 1:22:19.479 it's fine. We didn't see it in person because a 1:22:19.960 --> 1:22:23.320 I was sleeping. You're next bucket list because Australia was 1:22:23.320 --> 1:22:23.920 a bucket list. 1:22:24.080 --> 1:22:25.240 Do you want to see the northern line? 1:22:25.240 --> 1:22:25.479 I know you. 1:22:25.760 --> 1:22:28.040 I do want to see the northern lights. But you 1:22:28.160 --> 1:22:32.080 know what, here's the thing. I feel like that might 1:22:32.160 --> 1:22:34.800 be falling down on my list of things that I 1:22:34.880 --> 1:22:36.720 would like to do. 1:22:37.600 --> 1:22:38.800 All right, what's next? 1:22:39.720 --> 1:22:41.720 Because you know what when you usually when you see 1:22:41.760 --> 1:22:44.720 the northern lights, Yeah, you have to be somewhere where 1:22:44.760 --> 1:22:49.560 it's really cold, It's true, and yeah, oh you're not. 1:22:49.960 --> 1:22:52.280 You don't have to be outside to see the northern lights. 1:22:52.320 --> 1:22:53.800 You could be inside. 1:22:55.040 --> 1:22:56.640 Maybe I would, you know, if I could be in 1:22:56.720 --> 1:22:57.879 one of those little domes. 1:22:57.920 --> 1:22:59.280 I think, yeah, I think they have those. 1:23:00.040 --> 1:23:02.280 There's never any guarantee that you're going to see the 1:23:02.360 --> 1:23:06.200 darn things. I've heard horror stories people spending thousands of 1:23:06.280 --> 1:23:10.360 dollars to go see the northern lights and then they 1:23:10.479 --> 1:23:14.240 don't happen. I don't know, I'm I I think that 1:23:14.479 --> 1:23:16.080 that might be falling off the list. 1:23:17.280 --> 1:23:19.280 Okay, all right, fair enough. I don't know. You can 1:23:19.720 --> 1:23:20.640 do the cheap version of this. 1:23:20.800 --> 1:23:23.000 Go to Cleveland and just close your eyes and rub 1:23:23.040 --> 1:23:25.000 your thumbs really hard in your eyelids when they're closed, 1:23:25.400 --> 1:23:30.560 Look northern lights. Okay, let's look towards Canada. The north side. No, 1:23:30.680 --> 1:23:32.960 that's that's south. The other the other window, the other window. 1:23:33.120 --> 1:23:38.880 Oh my gosh, fine, same thing. Just fine, close your eyes. 1:23:39.880 --> 1:23:42.320 All right, let's talk about I imagine the topic today 1:23:42.400 --> 1:23:43.960 is going to be the fifty year mortgage. 1:23:44.120 --> 1:23:46.479 I can feel you, I could sense you champions to 1:23:46.520 --> 1:23:47.040 talk about this. 1:23:47.439 --> 1:23:50.920 It is because it is. I don't want to say 1:23:50.960 --> 1:23:52.639 that it's the dumbest thing that I've ever heard. 1:23:52.880 --> 1:23:56.040 No, don't ever say that. God, don't say that, because 1:23:56.040 --> 1:23:59.160 somebody's going to go hold my beer. We had a 1:23:59.200 --> 1:24:02.479 guy in Pennsylvan who was cleaning his shotgun loaded and 1:24:02.600 --> 1:24:05.439 his dog jumped on the bed and shot him. Oh, 1:24:05.920 --> 1:24:07.840 so don't say it's the dumbest thing you've heard today, 1:24:07.840 --> 1:24:09.639 because that would be the dumbest thing you've heard today. 1:24:10.360 --> 1:24:10.679 Wow. 1:24:10.960 --> 1:24:12.240 Yeah the dog. 1:24:12.479 --> 1:24:18.960 Yeah, we're going to smell he kill him? Did he 1:24:19.040 --> 1:24:20.600 kill us? I don't know the whole story there, but 1:24:20.640 --> 1:24:24.880 the guy got shot, so oh yeah, I don't know. Yeah, 1:24:24.920 --> 1:24:28.400 that's that's pretty dumb anyway. So this idea was floated 1:24:28.439 --> 1:24:32.640 by our president and the administration showing the comparison of 1:24:32.720 --> 1:24:37.120 the thirty year mortgage with Franklin Delano Roosevelt and a 1:24:37.360 --> 1:24:41.760 proposed fifty year mortgage a lah Trump. I guess. So 1:24:42.200 --> 1:24:46.920 the fh FA, the Federal Housing Finance Agency, and the 1:24:47.000 --> 1:24:50.360 director he said, you know what, we are working on 1:24:50.439 --> 1:24:54.880 a fifty year mortgage, and it's a complete game changer. 1:24:56.360 --> 1:24:56.560 Is it? 1:24:57.280 --> 1:25:00.960 Okay, you want to go back to two thousand and eight, Well, 1:25:01.160 --> 1:25:01.640 that's the thing. 1:25:02.040 --> 1:25:05.560 So the aim and the thought process, and if you 1:25:05.800 --> 1:25:09.400 dig into it a little bit deeper from someone that 1:25:09.600 --> 1:25:14.160 is our age fifty year mortgage, we will not see 1:25:14.320 --> 1:25:16.400 the end of that fifty year mortgage. If we try 1:25:16.479 --> 1:25:18.679 to live to the end of the fifty year mortgage, 1:25:18.920 --> 1:25:23.679 we're basically passing on debt to our children or whoever 1:25:23.840 --> 1:25:26.360 ends up selling the property that we own with a 1:25:26.439 --> 1:25:29.280 fifty year mortgage on it. So, you know, just if 1:25:29.360 --> 1:25:31.760 you're thinking long term, thirty years is a long time. 1:25:31.840 --> 1:25:36.720 Even depends on how much you like your kids. I guess, well, 1:25:37.160 --> 1:25:38.960 I suppose if you want to leave them with a 1:25:39.000 --> 1:25:43.479 whole budge of debt, that's fine. But the purpose of 1:25:43.600 --> 1:25:46.680 this thought process of the fifty year mortgage. The aim 1:25:46.840 --> 1:25:50.240 is to relieve monthly payments, so having payments be less 1:25:51.040 --> 1:25:54.120 and improve access to home ownership. But here's the thing. 1:25:54.960 --> 1:25:58.240 We have a low supply of homes. So that's not 1:25:58.400 --> 1:26:03.360 going to change mad because the supply and demand issue 1:26:03.520 --> 1:26:05.880 is not going to change magically because we have a 1:26:05.960 --> 1:26:09.760 fifty year mortgage. And if whose bright idea is going 1:26:09.920 --> 1:26:12.719 from the average right now is a thirty year mortgage 1:26:13.160 --> 1:26:15.559 and jump all the way to fifty that's like going 1:26:15.840 --> 1:26:18.479 you know, to eleventy billion. I mean, it just seems 1:26:18.560 --> 1:26:19.200 so far away. 1:26:19.280 --> 1:26:21.719 If it's forty your mortgages, we were like, okay, fifteen 1:26:22.160 --> 1:26:24.160 to thirty year right. 1:26:24.600 --> 1:26:27.000 And there have been talk of forty year mortgages, but 1:26:27.080 --> 1:26:29.200 I've never seen anybody use one, and I don't know 1:26:29.320 --> 1:26:33.840 how many products are available in the lending world that 1:26:34.040 --> 1:26:36.840 offer forty year mortgages. You know, here's the thing, you're 1:26:36.880 --> 1:26:40.880 going to pay more. Everybody complains about, you know, the 1:26:41.040 --> 1:26:45.320 cost of interest rates. Mortgage interest rates are high. Guess 1:26:45.400 --> 1:26:48.720 what with the fifty year mortgage, your interest rate is 1:26:48.800 --> 1:26:51.600 going to be higher than it would be with a 1:26:51.680 --> 1:26:52.719 thirty year mortgage. 1:26:52.840 --> 1:26:53.280 Why is it? 1:26:53.880 --> 1:26:56.600 Well, because you know what it's it's more of a 1:26:56.800 --> 1:27:00.400 risk for the lender. You know, it's all about risk. 1:27:00.600 --> 1:27:02.880 It's a higher risk for the lender. A fifty year 1:27:02.920 --> 1:27:05.920 mortgage means the lender has their money tied up for 1:27:06.200 --> 1:27:10.600 fifty years, So there's more risk for the lender. The 1:27:10.680 --> 1:27:12.840 lender is not going to take any risk, Are you kidding? 1:27:13.360 --> 1:27:16.880 And then think about it. So usually when you're in 1:27:16.960 --> 1:27:19.640 a thirty year mortgage, the first couple of years, not 1:27:19.800 --> 1:27:25.160 couple even the first ten years, you're paying mostly interest. 1:27:25.280 --> 1:27:28.320 You're not really paying down the debt, got it. And 1:27:28.479 --> 1:27:31.640 so if you think about a fifty year mortgage, just 1:27:31.800 --> 1:27:35.240 double it the first twenty years. Maybe you're not even 1:27:35.320 --> 1:27:38.800 paying down any debt. So why don't you think about Okay, 1:27:38.840 --> 1:27:40.760 I just thought about this in my brains while we 1:27:40.840 --> 1:27:46.479 were talking, So this should be really good real you know, 1:27:46.760 --> 1:27:50.639 why not just do an interest only loan because you're 1:27:50.680 --> 1:27:54.440 not building any equity with that, and those products are available. 1:27:54.560 --> 1:27:59.760 An interest only loan, you pay less and you never 1:28:00.040 --> 1:28:03.559 ever basically as you either have to sell the property 1:28:03.760 --> 1:28:06.880 or you have to get a different product to get 1:28:06.920 --> 1:28:10.880 another loan, but you never pay down the debt. So 1:28:10.920 --> 1:28:13.000 if you take it two hundred thousand dollars loan and 1:28:13.080 --> 1:28:16.160 you only and you're an interest only loan, you just 1:28:16.240 --> 1:28:18.599 pay the interest on that loan, you're never. 1:28:18.520 --> 1:28:21.240 Paying back the isn't that just rent? 1:28:24.280 --> 1:28:24.320 No? 1:28:24.520 --> 1:28:26.000 But you still own the property? 1:28:26.479 --> 1:28:28.040 No you don't. The bank owns the property. 1:28:28.280 --> 1:28:32.920 Well okay, all right, well technically you are right you're 1:28:32.960 --> 1:28:35.840 paying rent. No, you're right, absolutely. 1:28:35.920 --> 1:28:38.040 Well what's the advantage of buying a house if you're 1:28:38.320 --> 1:28:41.559 just paying the interest? I it's amazing that they can 1:28:41.600 --> 1:28:42.800 get away with this kind of stuff. 1:28:43.200 --> 1:28:45.120 Well, and I don't know that they will, you know, 1:28:45.200 --> 1:28:47.160 I don't know that this is actually going to become 1:28:47.320 --> 1:28:50.639 a sing when you look at it. So how much 1:28:50.680 --> 1:28:52.800 are you going to save? Right, that's the big question. 1:28:53.240 --> 1:28:57.479 So the thought process is younger buyers can't afford a mortgage, 1:28:58.280 --> 1:29:00.680 so let's get them into a fifty year mortgage. If 1:29:00.680 --> 1:29:04.120 you're twenty five years old, you know you'll be seventy five. 1:29:07.200 --> 1:29:09.200 You're not going to pay it off. And here's the thing, 1:29:09.320 --> 1:29:11.799 how long do you stay in your home? I always 1:29:11.880 --> 1:29:14.760 tell people, even with a regular thirty year mortgage or 1:29:14.760 --> 1:29:19.040 a fifteen or whatever, when you're buying a home, your 1:29:19.160 --> 1:29:21.800 best bet is to stay in that home at least 1:29:22.000 --> 1:29:24.920 five years so that you can build some equity. 1:29:25.040 --> 1:29:25.280 Got it. 1:29:25.640 --> 1:29:28.560 Here's the thing. Fifty year mortgage, You're never going to 1:29:28.600 --> 1:29:32.519 build equity. You are passing deck to future generations. You're 1:29:32.560 --> 1:29:34.680 never going to get ahead. You're always going to be 1:29:34.800 --> 1:29:37.840 chasing your tail. And that's the one thing that makes 1:29:37.920 --> 1:29:45.519 me absolutely crazy that anybody in an administrative with a brain. Yeah, 1:29:45.560 --> 1:29:48.200 and I know that everybody, everybody in my industry is 1:29:48.320 --> 1:29:52.560 just going absolutely berserk. It's a great talking point. And 1:29:53.479 --> 1:29:55.240 the savings isn't that much. 1:29:55.720 --> 1:29:58.639 It's like, so I saw someone do the maths on this, Michelle, 1:29:58.800 --> 1:30:01.519 and I think like a half million dollar loan. It 1:30:01.800 --> 1:30:05.920 was I think it was basically two hundred dollars less 1:30:05.960 --> 1:30:08.360 a month, I mean two hundreds, I mean fifty bucks 1:30:08.400 --> 1:30:10.559 a week. You look at well, you know you're paying, 1:30:10.600 --> 1:30:12.479 but you're just paying the bank. It's like having a 1:30:12.560 --> 1:30:14.479 credit card never paying the balance off. 1:30:14.920 --> 1:30:18.639 Correct. Absolutely, it is that you're constantly chasing your tail. 1:30:18.840 --> 1:30:21.639 So if you have a thirty year mortgage at six 1:30:21.720 --> 1:30:25.760 point twenty five percent, your monthly payment is going to be. 1:30:25.920 --> 1:30:27.800 This is for a four hundred thousand dollars home. So 1:30:28.040 --> 1:30:31.000 just try to do some easy math. So a four 1:30:31.080 --> 1:30:34.760 hundred thousand dollars loan, which is pretty typical, maybe a 1:30:34.840 --> 1:30:38.120 little high for our area, but anyway, so thirty years, 1:30:38.200 --> 1:30:41.240 six and a quarter monthly payment is about twenty four 1:30:41.360 --> 1:30:47.599 hundred dollars. Over thirty years, you end up paying about 1:30:47.640 --> 1:30:50.920 eight hundred and eighty seven thousand. So you're doubling what 1:30:51.280 --> 1:30:54.320 because if you make every payment, if you include all 1:30:54.439 --> 1:30:57.639 the interest on a four hundred thousand dollars loan, you're 1:30:57.640 --> 1:31:01.559 paying four hundred and eighty seven thousand dollars in interest, 1:31:01.960 --> 1:31:05.400 all right, And you're thinking about this, it's like, Wow, 1:31:05.960 --> 1:31:08.519 that four hundred thousand dollars home is really worth eight 1:31:08.640 --> 1:31:12.040 hundred thousand dollars at least, it's what you're putting into 1:31:12.160 --> 1:31:16.040 it now. If you do a fifty year mortgage, and 1:31:16.200 --> 1:31:19.400 the estimate would be about six point eight percent, so 1:31:19.479 --> 1:31:24.280 about a half a percent higher. Your monthly payments are 1:31:24.320 --> 1:31:27.240 twenty two hundred, so that saves you two hundred dollars 1:31:27.320 --> 1:31:36.040 a month. Okay, spread out over six hundred months, you're 1:31:36.160 --> 1:31:41.960 paying one point three three zero over a million dollars 1:31:42.040 --> 1:31:45.560 one point three million dollars for a loan for a 1:31:45.760 --> 1:31:48.120 four hundred thousand dollars house. 1:31:48.240 --> 1:31:49.640 The other side of this, too is a lot of 1:31:49.720 --> 1:31:52.519 people will tap into home equity in order to fix 1:31:52.560 --> 1:31:54.760 it up, because houses, while they break the fixed stuff, 1:31:54.760 --> 1:31:55.320 where you going to. 1:31:55.280 --> 1:31:57.560 Tap into that money in the future, Well, there won't be. 1:31:57.880 --> 1:31:58.200 You won't. 1:31:58.280 --> 1:32:00.880 You won't have the money. It's kind of like we saw, 1:32:00.920 --> 1:32:03.000 you know, like the subprime auto market. For example, right 1:32:03.120 --> 1:32:05.400 car everything's going up with inflesh and so car prices 1:32:05.479 --> 1:32:10.360 go up, so order dealers just tack on extra months 1:32:10.439 --> 1:32:12.599 to the loan for if you're less credit worthy, will 1:32:12.600 --> 1:32:14.719 just stretch it over five, six, eight years or whatever 1:32:14.760 --> 1:32:16.920 it is. And so just like the housing crisis in 1:32:16.960 --> 1:32:18.880 a eight or with kind of cars a little less 1:32:19.040 --> 1:32:21.479 than a home because of property values and such. But 1:32:21.560 --> 1:32:25.880 nonetheless does go okay, well I repossess it or I'll 1:32:26.080 --> 1:32:28.400 turn my keys in and the lenders wind up getting 1:32:28.400 --> 1:32:30.320 big losses as well. And if you trade your car 1:32:30.400 --> 1:32:31.720 and you can't afford a new one because you know 1:32:31.840 --> 1:32:33.880 more than your car's worth, how's that different than we 1:32:33.960 --> 1:32:34.680 did in O eight? 1:32:34.760 --> 1:32:36.040 Isn't that setting this up for that? 1:32:36.880 --> 1:32:41.639 I believe, in my opinion, in my humble opinion, it's 1:32:41.680 --> 1:32:46.360 setting up future generations to fail. And you know, there 1:32:46.400 --> 1:32:51.360 are already future generations, our kids, our kids' kids, they're 1:32:51.479 --> 1:32:55.679 already at a disadvantage to a certain extent financially because 1:32:55.720 --> 1:32:58.720 the price of you know, the price of entry is 1:32:58.880 --> 1:33:03.400 so high. This is this is not the answer. A 1:33:03.479 --> 1:33:07.599 fifty year mortgage is not the answer. Now, some people, 1:33:07.800 --> 1:33:10.599 you know, you may hear people in my industry even saying, oh, 1:33:10.720 --> 1:33:14.760 well you can just refinance. Yeah, that's more money in 1:33:14.880 --> 1:33:16.519 the pockets of lenders. 1:33:16.920 --> 1:33:17.040 Right. 1:33:17.680 --> 1:33:20.719 Every time you refinance, you got to pay closing costs. 1:33:21.080 --> 1:33:23.400 Most of the time. Again, there are some lenders who 1:33:23.479 --> 1:33:25.639 will waive that if you do it within a certain 1:33:25.680 --> 1:33:29.599 period of time, or some lenders will you know, they'll 1:33:29.720 --> 1:33:35.479 offer some incentives or lower but no matter what, you're 1:33:35.520 --> 1:33:37.720 not if you get a refin aanswer, you're gonna get 1:33:37.760 --> 1:33:41.120 a new loan on a property. At any point you're 1:33:41.160 --> 1:33:44.280 gonna pay. You're gonna pay extra, and that extra will 1:33:44.560 --> 1:33:49.920 add up to months worth of monthly payments. So you're 1:33:49.960 --> 1:33:53.560 saving two hundred dollars a month, But yet you're not 1:33:53.680 --> 1:33:56.240 building equity. You're not building wealth. And that's the one 1:33:56.320 --> 1:33:59.360 thing that I've always been able to say is when 1:33:59.439 --> 1:34:03.040 you buy, it's the greatest investment of your life, when 1:34:03.080 --> 1:34:03.919 you buy property. 1:34:04.920 --> 1:34:07.080 It feels like Michelle, that this is going to be 1:34:07.880 --> 1:34:10.439 one of those almost like the payday lenders and to 1:34:10.520 --> 1:34:12.559 get a bad report, and people need payday lenders. I'm 1:34:12.600 --> 1:34:14.720 not knocking it. I get what it is, but you know, 1:34:14.840 --> 1:34:16.840 rent to own schemes and stuff like that as wells. 1:34:16.840 --> 1:34:18.559 People are just gonna look at the monthly cost, go hey, 1:34:18.560 --> 1:34:20.240 I'm saving two hundred dollars a month, sign me up, 1:34:20.479 --> 1:34:22.800 and then they'll get hamstring with this loan and then 1:34:22.880 --> 1:34:25.680 later complain about it. So I think this might be 1:34:25.800 --> 1:34:27.800 predatory in a way, And I hate using that term 1:34:27.800 --> 1:34:30.000 because it's so thrown around these days as well. I 1:34:30.040 --> 1:34:33.000 mean all loans feel I mean college loans feel predatory 1:34:33.040 --> 1:34:33.200 to me. 1:34:33.320 --> 1:34:33.960 So what do I know. 1:34:34.320 --> 1:34:35.920 But in that case, you're gonna I think you're gonna 1:34:35.920 --> 1:34:37.320 have that. People going, wow, you know, I just want 1:34:37.360 --> 1:34:40.200 to have a safe place for as crime continues in 1:34:40.320 --> 1:34:42.640 urban areas, for example, people going, look, if I can 1:34:42.760 --> 1:34:44.439 get this for two hundred less a month, I don't 1:34:44.439 --> 1:34:47.439 care that it's a fifty year loan. I just want out, sure, 1:34:47.520 --> 1:34:49.200 But you wonder if that sets them up for success 1:34:49.320 --> 1:34:49.759 or failure. 1:34:50.439 --> 1:34:53.479 Well, the one thing is, and I'm glad we're talking 1:34:53.560 --> 1:34:57.240 about it because when we were getting those predatory loans 1:34:57.600 --> 1:35:01.320 twenty years ago, when I first gotten to the business, 1:35:01.400 --> 1:35:02.960 and when I was trying to figure out how in 1:35:03.040 --> 1:35:07.439 the world are buyers getting money back when they buy 1:35:07.520 --> 1:35:10.439 a home, because there was they didn't have to have 1:35:10.520 --> 1:35:12.160 a down payment, they didn't have to have there was. 1:35:12.439 --> 1:35:16.360 It was a setup to failed situation. Now, and you're right, 1:35:16.439 --> 1:35:19.000 it's it's like buying a car. You know, they're not 1:35:19.120 --> 1:35:22.880 going to tell you the big numbers because those are scary. Yeah, 1:35:23.040 --> 1:35:25.880 this is a car for forty thousand dollars or whatever. 1:35:26.840 --> 1:35:30.720 How much can you afford to pay? Per month, and 1:35:30.800 --> 1:35:32.880 then they're going to put you in a product that 1:35:33.000 --> 1:35:36.200 will get you to that number, But then they won't 1:35:36.280 --> 1:35:38.679 tell you all of you know, you'll have to really 1:35:38.800 --> 1:35:41.800 ask some hard questions as to what does that mean? 1:35:42.640 --> 1:35:44.800 You know, Okay, you got me to my number. I 1:35:44.880 --> 1:35:49.519 can afford it today, But what happens if I lose 1:35:49.600 --> 1:35:52.960 my job? What happens? Do I have any equity if 1:35:53.000 --> 1:35:57.680 I need to go and resell and sell my property? No, 1:35:57.960 --> 1:36:01.160 you're not going to if if hope fully that home 1:36:01.400 --> 1:36:04.599 has gone up in value, if you've been and there's 1:36:04.600 --> 1:36:06.599 a lot of ifs, if you've been in that home 1:36:06.800 --> 1:36:11.880 long enough, if you, like I said, it's to me, 1:36:12.560 --> 1:36:16.040 it is a setup for failure. And guess what, people 1:36:16.080 --> 1:36:18.240 are going to stay in their homes longer. There's not 1:36:18.360 --> 1:36:21.600 going to be the turnover that we need for younger generations. 1:36:21.920 --> 1:36:25.600 So right now, everybody's stuck in that home with a 1:36:25.680 --> 1:36:29.840 three percent mortgage that we got whatever five ten years ago, 1:36:30.800 --> 1:36:34.320 and nobody wants to get rid of that three three 1:36:34.400 --> 1:36:36.760 percent mortgage. So they're holding onto their home and they 1:36:36.800 --> 1:36:39.600 don't want to buy something for seven percent mortgage. So 1:36:39.760 --> 1:36:42.480 what is this going to do. It's going to paralyze 1:36:42.560 --> 1:36:45.040 our country. I'm sorry, I'm going to get a little 1:36:45.080 --> 1:36:45.840 fired up about this. 1:36:45.960 --> 1:36:49.799 I think I love it. I like feisty Michelle. 1:36:49.880 --> 1:36:53.639 That's the that's my girl right there, smart cookie, my wife, 1:36:53.680 --> 1:36:56.479 Michelle Sloan with Remax Time and Sloan Cells homes dot 1:36:56.520 --> 1:37:00.280 Com Open House Show. That's on the iHeartRadio app there 1:37:00.360 --> 1:37:02.679 or Apple wherever you get your podcast, and of course 1:37:03.040 --> 1:37:06.280 uh on YouTube as well too. So thanks again, love 1:37:06.280 --> 1:37:08.920 your good stuff. Let's not do a fifty year mortgage 1:37:08.960 --> 1:37:11.000 unless our kids really piss us off, and then we're. 1:37:10.840 --> 1:37:11.240 Gonna do it. 1:37:11.680 --> 1:37:13.080 We're gonna do like three of them. 1:37:13.320 --> 1:37:14.360 You can one hundred year. 1:37:14.240 --> 1:37:20.439 Mortgage come with its generation, all right, don't upset mom? 1:37:20.640 --> 1:37:20.960 All right? 1:37:21.479 --> 1:37:23.240 Love you gotta go see I gotta get news in. 1:37:23.479 --> 1:37:27.639 We've got uh Willie standing by. I believe Willy's here today. 1:37:27.840 --> 1:37:29.600 Maybe not, I don't know. We'll find out who it 1:37:29.720 --> 1:37:32.120 is coming up at twelve oh six here on the 1:37:32.160 --> 1:37:34.559 Home of the Best Bengals coverage seven hundred wtibity since 1:37:34.640 --> 1:37:34.760 now