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Speaker 2: Welcome to We got lots going on this morning in
Speaker 2: scotslone show on seven hundred w welw.
Speaker 3: I don't have to tell you.
Speaker 2: The government's reopened and we've got Epstein files to talk about.
Speaker 2: In just so much more, a little closer to home,
Speaker 2: Cincinnati proposing a stricter nine to five curfew for miners
Speaker 2: under eighteen on short Fine. We're talking about this yesterday
Speaker 2: with other council members, so short Finding, you see, and
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a think between Daniel Street and Corey
Speaker 2: and it moved out of committee and now Consul's a
Speaker 2: whole vote for this thing. And so the idea is
Speaker 2: we have crime that since they've been cracking down on
Speaker 2: Fountain Square in downtown and OTR that we're seeing juveniles
Speaker 2: in particular move towards short Vine. And of course we
Speaker 2: had a fifteen year old charge with murder in April.
Speaker 2: Remember the shooting outside of the liquor store Halloween weekend.
Speaker 2: There was gunfly fire. A bunch of tons of UC
Speaker 2: students out there in costume enjoying the fun of Halloween
Speaker 2: weekend that was upset by gunfire. Fortunately, no one was
Speaker 2: struck there and so we're going to try another curfew
Speaker 2: here of many curfews. She is counselmber re elect. Mika
Speaker 2: Owhen's joining the show this morning on seven hundred WW Mika,
Speaker 2: welcome back and congratulations.
Speaker 3: By the way, thank you, Scott.
Speaker 4: I am very happy to do that your listeners and
Speaker 4: the voters of this city and trusting me to get
Speaker 4: back to work in the city Hall. There's so much
Speaker 4: for us to do. Safety is at the top of
Speaker 4: the list, uh, you know, and no one moves to
Speaker 4: a city where they don't feel safe until it's important
Speaker 4: that we make sure that every single neighborhood feels that way.
Speaker 4: So building more housing, transportations, so many things for us
Speaker 4: to accomplish.
Speaker 3: Were you surprised do you finish third?
Speaker 5: Overall?
Speaker 4: You know, I never take anything for granted. You know,
Speaker 4: you run a race, and you run at this it's
Speaker 4: your first time running, and so I am just grateful
Speaker 4: that again, folks, you know, decided that the work that
Speaker 4: I've been doing is valuable to moving this city forward.
Speaker 4: And at the end of the day, you know, it's
Speaker 4: like the placement is great, but for voters to say yes,
Speaker 4: I want you to represent me, represents the city at large.
Speaker 4: That is a huge responsibility, and so it's really about
Speaker 4: getting back and doing their work.
Speaker 3: Good, good, good.
Speaker 2: I want to name recognition obviously, but finishing third and
Speaker 2: ahead of another bunch of other prominent Democrats is pretty
Speaker 2: big final point on the election because this is obviously
Speaker 2: concerning as well. We know that the Charter Rights three
Speaker 2: is a Democratic sweep on council. Democrats had a great
Speaker 2: night like yourself on Tuesday election night, but relative to
Speaker 2: the Charter Rights who made a lot of noise, and
Speaker 2: I think they made some really strong arguments about getting
Speaker 2: serious about public safety. And even though they didn't place
Speaker 2: and it was a sweep, do you still listen to
Speaker 2: that and go, well, you know what, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of animosity here and we've handled things poorly relative to
Speaker 2: crime here in Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: Do you get a message from the voters on that,
Speaker 3: you know?
Speaker 4: I would say the voters have entrusted and have looked
Speaker 4: to the city's budget to understand that we are investing
Speaker 4: in public safety and it's a continual investment, and so
Speaker 4: I think voters see that we are taking that seriously
Speaker 4: and crime. Getting a handle on crime takes a lot
Speaker 4: of components, one of which your CPD you know, environment improves,
Speaker 4: improved communities, investments in communities, young people having opportunities. These
Speaker 4: are all factors. But certainly the way that we respond
Speaker 4: and give the resources to CPD uh and the laws
Speaker 4: and policies that we would create around that are also
Speaker 4: very very important.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then that's the outlart too, is we have
Speaker 2: to wait for all these police recruits and classes to
Speaker 2: come to fruition before we see the fruits of that.
Speaker 2: So it's going to be a while before all this happens,
Speaker 2: and we're still going to have, sadly some crime going on.
Speaker 3: I mentioned what's going in and around you.
Speaker 2: Ce Mika Owens, one of the people who were interviewed
Speaker 2: out there, said, hey, listen, now we put a curfew
Speaker 2: up here, the crowd comes up, Well, they'll just move
Speaker 2: somewhere else. Are we just playing like whack a mole
Speaker 2: with this problem?
Speaker 4: You know, I don't think we're playing black them all.
Speaker 4: I think we're being very responsive. And certainly, again, you know,
Speaker 4: you apply the resources where you see there might be problems,
Speaker 4: and at the end of the day, and it's so
Speaker 4: important that our young people feel safe. Those that are
Speaker 4: you know, going to uce to to further their education.
Speaker 4: No one should live in an environment where gunshots become
Speaker 4: the norm, and so it's it's all hands on deck.
Speaker 4: You know, we're knowing that that folks are stilling done
Speaker 4: out of vehicles, and so it's important that people keep
Speaker 4: their firearms stored properly in the city of Cincinnati, including
Speaker 4: in your home in the car. So it's you know,
Speaker 4: it's something that we're not taking our foot off the deack.
Speaker 2: Well not only that, I mean, let's talk about this
Speaker 2: from a consumer spurtsvactive here. We know the trouble that
Speaker 2: colleges are going through. The bubble feels like it is
Speaker 2: deflating and sometimes rapidly the value of a college degree
Speaker 2: for what you pay for worse as you get that's
Speaker 2: a can But as we have fewer students and schools,
Speaker 2: some schools going out of business, let's put it that way.
Speaker 2: We're seeing that across the country, if not in Ohio.
Speaker 2: Now we all of a sudden, you know, we have
Speaker 2: schools that are vying, going to be vying shortly for
Speaker 2: kids to come there. If crime is a huge factor
Speaker 2: in and around universus Cincinnati, does that hurt enrollment. Is
Speaker 2: that a concern of the administration you see be the city.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm not talked directly to see it administration, but
Speaker 4: certainly if you know any time that again, people perception
Speaker 4: of safety is not one that is positive. And certainly
Speaker 4: people will make decisions on where they go, where they
Speaker 4: invest their money, where they send their young people to school,
Speaker 4: and so absolutely from not only a community perspective, but
Speaker 4: from a talent perspective as well. And so when we
Speaker 4: as not only a state but a city, are competing
Speaker 4: with other places, it's important that you know, young people
Speaker 4: feel like they can come to Cincinnati, get an education,
Speaker 4: and ultimately stay here as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mika Owens.
Speaker 2: With the problems you have with this, of course, is
Speaker 2: that this is going to crack down on teenagers, those
Speaker 2: under eighteen and short vindor you see from nine to
Speaker 2: five it's gonna be nine to five curfew. Other In fact,
Speaker 2: we have all these staggered curf kind of like parking.
Speaker 2: You know, the different parking zones across the city. I
Speaker 2: can figure that with an app but in one area,
Speaker 2: I can be eighteen and it's eleven o'clock here, it's
Speaker 2: nine o'clock here, it's a that can be kind of
Speaker 2: confusing relative to enforcement. But the more important element is
Speaker 2: the fact that you're now restricting eighteen year olds around
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of other eighteen year olds are going
Speaker 2: to be there, the bulk of those go to UC
Speaker 2: or any college for that matter, and the eighteen to
Speaker 2: twenty year old range. How do you discern the people
Speaker 2: who should be there versus the ones that should no?
Speaker 2: Or does this simply stop people from going out after
Speaker 2: nine o'clock in a college campus and generally going to school?
Speaker 3: Myself, I remember the days, you know.
Speaker 2: You'd stay up till three, four, five o'clock in the
Speaker 2: morning sometimes because the way your body clock works. How
Speaker 2: is that going to work with these students that are
Speaker 2: out spending money and joining their lives versus those who
Speaker 2: shouldn't be there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly, I think this is going to be something
Speaker 4: that CPD and you see are going to have to
Speaker 4: work out through our shirt MoU. But ultimately, again, it's
Speaker 4: about making this environment safe, which, by the way, I'm
Speaker 4: sure you're aware that you know, Chief Isaac, the chief
Speaker 4: of UC suggested that this was a good step forward
Speaker 4: as well, and so you know, we're taking in all
Speaker 4: of the information and data, and you know, the city
Speaker 4: the administration is not making just decisions and silos. But
Speaker 4: you know, listening to CPD is important in this as well.
Speaker 4: But ultimately, you know this is going to take business owners.
Speaker 4: You see CPD young people communication to make sure that
Speaker 4: people are safe, but also making sure that there are
Speaker 4: no unintended consequences. And you know, as it relates to
Speaker 4: business owners, I too, you know I went to Miami
Speaker 4: and so uptown, yes was that place that you you
Speaker 4: went on on the weekends and patronized businesses And so
Speaker 4: ultimately we want to make sure that our businesses are
Speaker 4: not suffering. And so this will again be the continued
Speaker 4: part of the conversation. And I certainly am invested in
Speaker 4: working with the administration on these things, including our food
Speaker 4: trucks right, making sure that food trucks even looking at
Speaker 4: you know, where they might be able to be so
Speaker 4: that they can continue to gain business and people, you know,
Speaker 4: will patronize our small businesses.
Speaker 3: Do you agree with the eleven o'clock food truck band?
Speaker 4: Again, I think it was a response to what the
Speaker 4: administration and TGD saw with the fight that happened. You know,
Speaker 4: people congregating at three o'clock in the morning around food
Speaker 4: trucks is not the best idea, and so I think
Speaker 4: having something that is more consistent, something that also helps
Speaker 4: to create more of an economic, you know, development opportunity.
Speaker 4: When we think about food trucks that want are certified,
Speaker 4: you have the health certification, you're doing all the right things,
Speaker 4: you have a place to do business, and the city
Speaker 4: is creating a foundation for that. I think these are
Speaker 4: all things that are part of the tools and so
Speaker 4: again I think what's important is that we're not doing
Speaker 4: these things blanketly, but also making sure that we are
Speaker 4: coming back and reviewing what are any unintended consequences and
Speaker 4: how might we create solutions around that.
Speaker 3: I'll be honest with the MECO.
Speaker 2: And it feels punitive to me as a business owner
Speaker 2: in that, you know, I'm out there selling a product
Speaker 2: to people I don't know their background. I had a
Speaker 2: new background checks when somebody buys a hot dog, nor
Speaker 2: should you. And then because of some few bad actors,
Speaker 2: I have to shut down eleven o'clock when I could
Speaker 2: be making pretty good money. And let's face it, I
Speaker 2: don't know what the options are. Clifton at midnight or
Speaker 2: one o'clock or two o'clock in the morning when the
Speaker 2: bar's closed. But I know, as you went to Miami,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of windows, says, food trucks up there now,
Speaker 2: robots and everything else. And so you know, you can
Speaker 2: get food on the campus of Miami. That's a little
Speaker 2: different that you see. But the point is there's a
Speaker 2: market there for that, and someone created a business and
Speaker 2: models satisfy that. It's kind of like going, hey, you
Speaker 2: know what, we had a problem with people stealing cars,
Speaker 2: are driving the recklessly on the street to downtown Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: which we see all the time now with the sheriff
Speaker 2: or the State Highway Patrol helicopters.
Speaker 3: You know what we're gonna do. We're having a curfew now.
Speaker 2: You can't drive on the streets after eleven o'clock because
Speaker 2: some people are driving too fast.
Speaker 3: Isn't it the same thing?
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, I certainly hear that from members
Speaker 4: of the community, and so I think our best response
Speaker 4: right now is to one create an environment that build states,
Speaker 4: you know, create a baseline for even understanding the economic
Speaker 4: impacts to our small businesses, our food trucks specifically, and
Speaker 4: so by way of you know, really creating an environment
Speaker 4: where we know where people are, you know, how to
Speaker 4: get a spot. All of those things help to really
Speaker 4: shape an environment that's probably an improvement and where we
Speaker 4: are now. But again, I am very committed to working
Speaker 4: with the administration to make sure that their solutions rather
Speaker 4: than you know, people thinking they are obstacles or cogencies.
Speaker 4: So it is something that I again I am hearing
Speaker 4: and it's something that is a priority for me.
Speaker 6: To follow up on.
Speaker 2: Council memory Colt Lock Mika Owens on the show on
Speaker 2: seven hundred WLWN talking about the curfew proposal. Downtown Law
Speaker 2: and Public Safety voted on this. It moved out of
Speaker 2: committee to Council as a whole. Now they'll vote equal,
Speaker 2: will vote on this shortly to propose as a nine
Speaker 2: to five curfew on short find. You see, because of
Speaker 2: the problems they had there, we saw some of the
Speaker 2: violent crime move from Fountain Square OTR and downtown to
Speaker 2: Clifton and that's a no go because we saw what
Speaker 2: happened on Halloween. We saw a fatal shooting back in April,
Speaker 2: and it's not good when you have college students around
Speaker 2: and you know, mom and dad foot the bill or
Speaker 2: you're you're taking out a lot of money for college education.
Speaker 2: Public safety at this level should not be concerned, and
Speaker 2: yet it is because of the nature of the urban campus.
Speaker 2: And we're talking about that vote coming up here on
Speaker 2: the show on seven hundred WLW. Back to the curfew itself,
Speaker 2: because we had the curfews downtown, o city wide curfew,
Speaker 2: the curfew of the banks. We've got this curfew you
Speaker 2: have the same time. We've been doing this since what August,
Speaker 2: So it's a fairly okay sample size, I think, and
Speaker 2: now that summer is over. But we have the curfew
Speaker 2: centers where we'll take teams and drop them off, and
Speaker 2: there's only been four teams taken the queue for curfew
Speaker 2: centers downtown. Is that because do you think the terms
Speaker 2: is working or is it simply because it's under enforced.
Speaker 4: I think it's working, and so which is a good thing.
Speaker 4: We certainly don't want to see a curf youth center
Speaker 4: filled with young people, and so I think people are
Speaker 4: being compliant and that is what that is what's important here.
Speaker 4: And so you know again and the curfew center being
Speaker 4: a place that if one has to go there there
Speaker 4: are services and support systems that that will help to
Speaker 4: not only get people to young people to back home,
Speaker 4: but also additional resources that maybe needed. So I think
Speaker 4: we're turning in a good direction right now, and again
Speaker 4: I think that's because of the partners that have helped
Speaker 4: to communicate her few boundaries and expectations, and so I
Speaker 4: think we'll have to continue to do that and continue
Speaker 4: to again and monitor what is the success and products
Speaker 4: that we're making here.
Speaker 2: I'll point out, Mika that if you go back to
Speaker 2: one of the two big events, the shooting and the
Speaker 2: gun play over Halloween weekend, but the one in April
Speaker 2: or the fifteen year old charged with murdering I think
Speaker 2: the man name is Kyle Merrick, and a horrific crime
Speaker 2: at that. If you witness the street crime, it's absolutely
Speaker 2: depraved that at the time of day that happened that
Speaker 2: wouldn't have been prevented by a curfew. So is this
Speaker 2: a time of day issue or is this more of
Speaker 2: a youth violence issue, And if so, that's greater than
Speaker 2: a curfew.
Speaker 4: I think it's both. It's important to know that young people,
Speaker 4: if they're supposed to be in school, that they are
Speaker 4: in school. For one, it's important and that takes you know,
Speaker 4: the village. This is that that helps support young people,
Speaker 4: the environment, but there is also a need that within
Speaker 4: the conversation of safe and young people, we've got to
Speaker 4: provide more hope and options and opportunity for young people.
Speaker 4: And so again if young people one, they should be
Speaker 4: in school, if a s full age, and also what
Speaker 4: kind of skills and training and opportunities and resources and
Speaker 4: outlets do we have for young people, which is why
Speaker 4: you know, coming back into city Hall, this is such
Speaker 4: a priority for me. Uh. You know, one, there are
Speaker 4: lots of games on the streets where young people have
Speaker 4: access to and so that becomes an issue as well.
Speaker 4: But it's one that the city has to be in
Speaker 4: partnership with the state, has to be in partnership with
Speaker 4: the federal government to really get a handle on this.
Speaker 4: Of course, supporting the constitution absolutely, but young people have
Speaker 4: access to fire arms and is not good for our community.
Speaker 4: It's not good for policing. And this is also part
Speaker 4: of you know, what makes officers safe to do this job.
Speaker 4: So when we think about recruiting people, you know, this
Speaker 4: is a part of that. And so we have to
Speaker 4: make sure that this job that people feel safe doing
Speaker 4: this job. We have to make sure that young people
Speaker 4: are in the right places, and so it's going to
Speaker 4: take again. This is just, you know, a continued conversation,
Speaker 4: and these are actually things that I am looking at
Speaker 4: as well in from the timers.
Speaker 3: Gay gotcha.
Speaker 2: Finally, I live in Warren County and we had the
Speaker 2: other day an incident there where an individual was driving
Speaker 2: was rush hour traffic.
Speaker 3: He passed somebody. They took offense to it.
Speaker 2: The guy comes after him, chases him, he takes off anyway,
Speaker 2: long story, shirt dude pulls out a gun and puts
Speaker 2: I think a round in the back, which car fires
Speaker 2: around at him. And the end result was this individual
Speaker 2: shot was stopped by the State Highway Patrol because somebody
Speaker 2: called it a nine to one one where he went
Speaker 2: to Warren County jail. He's being held on a five
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars boud half a million dollar bond for that.
Speaker 2: I don't know what his history is, but I look
Speaker 2: at that in Warren County and people at Weren't County
Speaker 2: aren't going to say for that nonsense. I look at
Speaker 2: Hamlin County, go these are youthful offenders with guns and
Speaker 2: they're released sometimes in their own recognizance extremely little bond,
Speaker 2: and I think that just encourages more of the same behavior.
Speaker 2: What message can you get to judges to start going, hey,
Speaker 2: you know what, Warren Butler, Claremont County, they don't mess
Speaker 2: around when somebody is involved with a gun crime. And
Speaker 2: if you have a gun at your disability, God help you.
Speaker 2: We should be throwing the book at you. From a
Speaker 2: federal perspective, that's a strong message to these individuals. But
Speaker 2: yet it feels like they're being treated with kid gloves.
Speaker 2: Why and what role do you have as a counsel
Speaker 2: person to make that change if needed?
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, you're pointing out that there is you know,
Speaker 4: this is a three sixty issue, and so that means
Speaker 4: the courts have to respond as well. And I absolutely
Speaker 4: agree that someone who is a violent offender been convicted
Speaker 4: of the selonies and should not own a firearm. You know,
Speaker 4: those are reasons tonot have someone back on the street,
Speaker 4: and so I think it's important that that that we
Speaker 4: won are are sentencing in the in the right way
Speaker 4: bonds And I'm not an attorney, but whatever the maximum
Speaker 4: should be, then that's what it should be. But also
Speaker 4: what's to make sure we're creating as it relates to juveniles,
Speaker 4: we're creating more of the upstroom opportunity to say one,
Speaker 4: not only okay, you shouldn't be with a you know,
Speaker 4: a llegal firearm on the street, but also let's make
Speaker 4: sure we are moving people into more of a productive
Speaker 4: place in their lives. And so certainly this takes the
Speaker 4: court system to be a part of that.
Speaker 3: All right, how are you going to vote on that?
Speaker 4: You know today is we'll see what happens this afternoon.
Speaker 4: But I am certainly someone who is supporting public safety initiatives.
Speaker 4: We're listening to CPD on these things as well. Uh,
Speaker 4: And so I want to make sure that we as
Speaker 4: a city are responding in all of the appropriate ways
Speaker 4: that help to keep our community safe, make people feel safe,
Speaker 4: all of us showing that we can walk down M
Speaker 4: Street in the City of Cincinnati and not be alarmed
Speaker 4: by gunshots or violent crime. H And so this is us,
Speaker 4: you know, again showing up. But also it doesn't stop there.
Speaker 4: It is uh, you know, what might we need to
Speaker 4: do to improve going forward? And say those are the
Speaker 4: questions that remains Okay, so well if.
Speaker 3: Those questions are answered, you say yes on us? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: got it.
Speaker 4: I don't see reasons to not support this.
Speaker 2: Council Member Mika Owens, appreciate the time as always, Answeredship
Speaker 2: and I congratulations again on.
Speaker 3: The big win.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much. I'm looking forward to getting back
Speaker 4: to work for sure.
Speaker 3: All right, let's go, let's go. All right, thanks, take care.
Speaker 2: We got to get a news update in and more
Speaker 2: to follow on this, and of course we'll dive into
Speaker 2: the Epstein file dump just ahead here on the Scott's
Speaker 2: Loan Show seven hundred other.
Speaker 3: Scott Flowing seven.
Speaker 2: Hundred WLWI off the show beautiful Thursday. Marnino looks a
Speaker 2: good weekend ahead too.
Speaker 3: For that matter. On the backside, what do we got today?
Speaker 6: Is it?
Speaker 2: Today is the death of the American penny. The penny
Speaker 2: that costs about four cents to mint is going to
Speaker 2: be discontinued as of today because that production costs is
Speaker 2: way outside of what it's value was, and plus they're
Speaker 2: just so damn annoying. It's going to remain legal tender
Speaker 2: offecy for a while until they fade out. I don't
Speaker 2: know how long it's gonna take a long time. Wonder
Speaker 2: are luck it's going to take to get rid of
Speaker 2: all the pennies, probably not going to see it in
Speaker 2: our lifetimes. If you're a live right now. I will
Speaker 2: say this though, that the fastest way to get rid
Speaker 2: of the penny is to get it off the market.
Speaker 2: I am a I don't know if you know this,
Speaker 2: but a licensed penny recycler, and if you want to,
Speaker 2: according to the government, you want to get rid of
Speaker 2: these pennies. Eighty forty four Montgomery Road, Cincinnati, Ohio four
Speaker 2: five two three six. If you want unload all your pennies,
Speaker 2: I'm a authorized penny recycler.
Speaker 4: There you go.
Speaker 2: Just I want to think about it. Watch it get
Speaker 2: like a wheelbarrow full of pennies or something like that.
Speaker 2: I get anying for it. I'll just take the pennies,
Speaker 2: make it someone else. It'll probably cost you more to Well,
Speaker 2: you're rolling all those coinstar machines. How you roll that
Speaker 2: into the bank. They look at it and go, we're
Speaker 2: not taking that stuff. But you can't even get rid
Speaker 2: of pennies if you want to unless you're rolling them
Speaker 2: at yourself. So or pay the big at a coinstar machine.
Speaker 2: You know, they had the old days of walking in
Speaker 2: the bank and I got a bunch of pennies, put
Speaker 2: it in your counter. Nope, not gonna do it.
Speaker 7: Do't know way.
Speaker 2: You gotta roll it yourself too. It's like I could
Speaker 2: cheat you out of a couple of pennies maybe, and
Speaker 2: and if you then weigh them, you then could just
Speaker 2: weigh the pennies without the little sleeve on. It's just
Speaker 2: a pain in the butt. They're a pain in the butt.
Speaker 2: That's what it is as we move towards more of
Speaker 2: a cashless society. So yesterday it was the Epstein drop.
Speaker 2: We had twenty fous from the Republicans, which felt like
Speaker 2: a classic legal move to kind of obscure what's really
Speaker 2: going on here. Normally, you know, you just dump a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of information on some of lepago. Here, here's
Speaker 2: twenty thousand on top of the three that makes our
Speaker 2: guy look a little more dirty than he is, and
Speaker 2: that would be Donald Trump. It's going to be interesting,
Speaker 2: and I hope it's more interesting than sickening to see
Speaker 2: how this thing goes. Look, the fact the matter is,
Speaker 2: this is an ongoing problem, has been an ongoing problem
Speaker 2: for Trump and the Republicans for a while now. And
Speaker 2: I think what's telling about this is Trump comes out
Speaker 2: and says, look, this is the Republicans who flipped. The
Speaker 2: four of them, including Thomas Massey, were very bad or
Speaker 2: stupid Republicans as he called them. And it's a Democrat
Speaker 2: trap in the Jeffrey Epstein hoax. But remember, you got
Speaker 2: a whole lot of people to support and vote for
Speaker 2: you and campaign for you based on the fact you
Speaker 2: were going to be crystal clear in your transparency when
Speaker 2: it came to Jeffrey Epstein and his misdeeds, his crimes.
Speaker 2: And then because of expedient see if oh there's nothing,
Speaker 2: there's nothing in this report, We're going to release and
Speaker 2: release and then then there's nothing there. Well, you wonder
Speaker 2: why people, even those who supported you, are at the
Speaker 2: very least giving you side eye, at the most turning
Speaker 2: their back on you or voting against you. In this
Speaker 2: case is Laura they brought a look at it this way,
Speaker 2: said it's a hoax. But at the same time, yesterday,
Speaker 2: bring Lauren Bobert in from Colorado and they're trying to
Speaker 2: sweat her to try and get her pull her name
Speaker 2: off because you got this Democratic senator from Arizona who's
Speaker 2: getting sworn in, and they didn't want the votes to
Speaker 2: go through, and the end result as it did, because
Speaker 2: Bobert and three others stood up and said, no, I
Speaker 2: want this stuff to come out, and reports are not surfacing.
Speaker 2: He was playing phone tag with some other reps to
Speaker 2: try and get them to flip so they didn't have
Speaker 2: the two hundred and eighteen signatures. And all this over
Speaker 2: a hoax. I mean, if it's a hoax and you
Speaker 2: really really believe that, then what exactly are you afraid
Speaker 2: of people seeing? But I think it's part and parcel
Speaker 2: for what we're talking about here in that I'm pretty
Speaker 2: sure that Trump's named a lot in these things. On
Speaker 2: the other hand, you wonder about prominent Democrats like Bill Clinton.
Speaker 2: How look what happened to Prince Andrew right. I mean,
Speaker 2: they stripped him of his crime. They said, okay, you're
Speaker 2: not you're out.
Speaker 5: That.
Speaker 2: And you know how protective and secluded and private the
Speaker 2: royal family is. For them to do that over this
Speaker 2: and for us to go ad nothing to see here,
Speaker 2: it doesn't look good. And is there a crime that
Speaker 2: I don't know because we don't know everything that's in there.
Speaker 2: I understand there's a context that the Democrats are going
Speaker 2: to drop the stuff that they want to use to
Speaker 2: make Trump look bad. Absolutely, are there some politics behind
Speaker 2: There's a lot of politics behind this. If you look
Speaker 2: at this, is just what a partisan weaponsization is. What's
Speaker 2: going on here. Republicans are accusing Democrats are selectively leaking
Speaker 2: the emails, but they're also withholding records that named Democrats,
Speaker 2: so we think anyway, and Democrats accuse Republicans are covering
Speaker 2: for true up and back and forth. So you know,
Speaker 2: you look at that and I'm about quite honestly, I
Speaker 2: don't really care Republican, Democrat or otherwise. If you were
Speaker 2: accused of, caught up in, or guilty of doing all
Speaker 2: the misdeeds, you should be going to prison, just like
Speaker 2: others have in this particular case. I don't think there's any.
Speaker 3: Debate for that. I don't think there's any room for that.
Speaker 2: I mentioned the time he was impeccable because of Prince Andrew,
Speaker 2: and now you look at us and go, okay, what
Speaker 2: are we doing over here? It's just not negotiable that
Speaker 2: the facts are out there. Did he what level involvement
Speaker 2: did he have is a big question. What did he
Speaker 2: know and when did he know it to coin a phrase.
Speaker 2: I think there's enough cover for him right now, going okay, well,
Speaker 2: you had Maxwell come out and say, now there's really
Speaker 2: nothing going on here. Jeffrey's family's been critical of Trump
Speaker 2: after he said Epstein stole her from mar A Lago,
Speaker 2: And I don't know what that means. Stole her from
Speaker 2: our alago. Is it's stilling her because he knew what
Speaker 2: he was going to do with her, or stole her
Speaker 2: because you know, good employees are hard to find, so
Speaker 2: there's wiggle room there. And Trump is really really good
Speaker 2: to get out of legal jams. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you notice that or not. I wouldn't say I give
Speaker 2: him the benefit of the doubt. I just you need
Speaker 2: more proof as to what's going on here, the full
Speaker 2: depth of this whole thing, and you know, releasing little
Speaker 2: pieces here and there to make the other side look
Speaker 2: bad is not justice at all, as we've seen in
Speaker 2: the past. You know, did he have some level of
Speaker 2: Alma's hands in the sure he's involved, He's on planes
Speaker 2: and everything else, So you know what, just release all
Speaker 2: the names, release all the associations instead of milking this
Speaker 2: out for political sake and we'll be done with this.
Speaker 2: And I look at Michael Wolfe. That's the guy who
Speaker 2: wrote Fire and Fear. I believe it was Fire and
Speaker 2: Fury the one and just hanging around with Trump for
Speaker 2: a while. But he said, you know one of the emails,
Speaker 2: I hear Cen on plane and asked Trump tonight about
Speaker 2: this relationship with you either on air and a scrum afterwards.
Speaker 3: And this was to Epstein.
Speaker 2: And six months after Trump had declared he was running
Speaker 2: for the presidency of whatsoe that's back in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3: It's to be twenty fifteen.
Speaker 2: And Epstein replied to wolf if we were to craft
Speaker 2: an answer for him, what do you think it should be.
Speaker 2: I think you should let him hang himself as a
Speaker 2: wolf road. If he says he hasn't been on the
Speaker 2: plane or the house, that gives you a value of
Speaker 2: pr and political currency. You can hang him a way
Speaker 2: that potentially generates a positive for you. Or if it
Speaker 2: looks like he could win the election, which you did,
Speaker 2: you could save him and that would generate a dat
Speaker 2: And that's the politics of it. That's the you know,
Speaker 2: I'm sad. That's that's pretty damning right there. And I
Speaker 2: think we as a people deserve to see more. But
Speaker 2: we now live in such a hyper partisan world that
Speaker 2: any criticism and saying, hey, you know, we should be
Speaker 2: looking at this somehow doesn't make you mag enough, and
Speaker 2: it's just you're falling for Democratic Democrat lies and like
Speaker 2: and then okay.
Speaker 3: The other side is that we're probably pretty sure.
Speaker 2: That the Clintons or someone else's in the person the
Speaker 2: Democrats are involved in this as well, because you know,
Speaker 2: this whole classism battle that we face, there's an element
Speaker 2: of truth to it in that the people were talking
Speaker 2: about they all swim in the same fish tank. You know,
Speaker 2: you think we think it's about hyperpartisan politics. I mean
Speaker 2: that's okay. Inside the Bellway, it's a little bit different,
Speaker 2: especially inside those towers, a lot different when these are
Speaker 2: very very wealthy, well connected people and you do have Democrats, Republicans, agnostics,
Speaker 2: atheists and everyone hanging out with it. You know, last
Speaker 2: time I checked, if you're gonna be a pedophile, it
Speaker 2: does not know any political affiliation. And so if that's
Speaker 2: the case, Republicans have a lot to protect as new Democrats.
Speaker 2: I mean, our Congress can't be bothered to pass a
Speaker 2: balanced budget, can't be vouchered to It's happened twice in
Speaker 2: my lifetime. I know about you seemingly can't do the job,
Speaker 2: but they're really really good about trying to block stuff
Speaker 2: like this, the real truth and stuff from getting out there.
Speaker 2: And that should tell you everything. You know, if you're
Speaker 2: a hyperpartisan, you may want to really, you know, look
Speaker 2: at that. And I'd say, look at the Democrats. You know,
Speaker 2: you're having no kings rallies to rail against Trump and
Speaker 2: the like. But again, it's what you preach is also
Speaker 2: not what you practice. Because we have a kingdom, and
Speaker 2: the kingdom was not started under Donald Trump, but was
Speaker 2: started well in the past. When it comes to executive order,
Speaker 2: and because Congress is beholden to the presidency whomever that is,
Speaker 2: they will allow either executive auto pen whatever it is,
Speaker 2: to do the bidding the presidency, and they feel like
Speaker 2: they don't have to act because they've given that power
Speaker 2: away to the executive branch as opposed to really having
Speaker 2: a balance of power. That's going on, and we saw
Speaker 2: that with what's going on with the debt or the
Speaker 2: vote on the big beautiful bill, or in this case here,
Speaker 2: it's like just we just walk away well, do we
Speaker 2: have Congress for them? The hard things are not willing
Speaker 2: to do, but really really good at making sure that
Speaker 2: the truth doesn't get out there, which makes one think
Speaker 2: there's something there and I think we deserve to see
Speaker 2: all that. Maybe we'll find out next week. We'll see
Speaker 2: at five and three, seven, four, nine, eight hundred the
Speaker 2: Big One talk back iHeartRadio up over to A Dayton
Speaker 2: and Jeff one hundred.
Speaker 3: W W Hey, Jeff, thanks for checking in.
Speaker 6: Marty Sony Hey.
Speaker 1: I was in the Air Force and in nineteen seventy
Speaker 1: nine to eighty I was at Coonsan Air Base, Korea,
Speaker 1: and we didn't use painties at all on base. The
Speaker 1: basic change if it was round, you'd round up to
Speaker 1: the nearest nickels. So it really it never mattered. And
Speaker 1: I don't think it will be a problem.
Speaker 3: I don't think so either.
Speaker 2: I mean people will say, well they'll just round up,
Speaker 2: do they won't because you have competition. You have to
Speaker 2: look at gas, you know, if the if the UDF
Speaker 2: on one side and the speedway and the other. If
Speaker 2: it's a if it's a three cent different one cent difference,
Speaker 2: people will go to the one that's cheaper.
Speaker 1: Absolutely yeah, yeah, issue really compared to the others that
Speaker 1: we have now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so don't figure if you want to get rid
Speaker 2: of those petties, you know where to send them. Okay,
Speaker 2: all right, there you go, eighty forty four Montcomerer News
Speaker 2: on the way in about eight minutes here on seven
Speaker 2: hundred WLW. Patrick Collin from CET is here. I love
Speaker 2: the seet guys because they're geeky and wonky and it's
Speaker 2: so what you need to know on better, better battery
Speaker 2: life for your phone. And you know, we this time
Speaker 2: of year especially see how they Kevin Hart's and every
Speaker 2: commercial and if the commercials he's not in shacks and
Speaker 2: would be the other one, and then Matthew McConaughey and
Speaker 2: a select few others. So there's really three guys who
Speaker 2: do all the commercials. And you got all three. But
Speaker 2: now they you know, Kevin Hart, the iPhone ads and
Speaker 2: then we'll see the Antifa.
Speaker 3: We got the Google phones.
Speaker 2: You know all they got all these things on them,
Speaker 2: really really cool features that most of us don't use. Now,
Speaker 2: if you're an influencer, you know there's a phone for you.
Speaker 2: It has multiple cameras and all they need is a
Speaker 2: phone I need texting, I need social media, I need
Speaker 2: the Internet. I need a phone phone, maybe a few apps,
Speaker 2: but primarily I need a battery that lasts a long time,
Speaker 2: like at a perfect world.
Speaker 3: I need a battery that lasts like Hollywood.
Speaker 2: Time you ever notice on a show streaming otherwise, movie
Speaker 2: people always in the they never charge a day. You
Speaker 2: never see them, like We'll go to sleep and then
Speaker 2: the phone ring and will wake up and pick the
Speaker 2: phone up. It's never in a charger now, but to
Speaker 2: hold on, I gotta unplug it. I got to take
Speaker 2: it up the the bag safe older, No, none of that.
Speaker 2: Where's my dad off?
Speaker 3: I'm out of you.
Speaker 2: Unless it's somebody that is about to get killed or
Speaker 2: something like that, then there's a good chance they have
Speaker 2: no cell service or they're down it's blinking or low
Speaker 2: power that one percent the phone goes off like the
Speaker 2: phone has always said, never seemed charge it, and it's
Speaker 2: always on. I would love a phone like that where
Speaker 2: I could literally have an entire season of shows and
Speaker 2: I'm always on the phone and it always has a
Speaker 2: full charge.
Speaker 3: That could be a dream. That is a dream of mine.
Speaker 3: Uh real quick.
Speaker 2: One other thing of note this morning and just kind
Speaker 2: of trivial. At that is just about the time I
Speaker 2: do the trivial kind of stuff on the show. Not
Speaker 2: that the Jeffrey Epstein stuff was that that critical, but
Speaker 2: or that trivial. I guess I should say next time
Speaker 2: I go to the state, and this may happen next week.
Speaker 2: It's not a done deal. But this is another thing
Speaker 2: to confuse your wallet. You're ready for tiered pricing at
Speaker 2: checkout based on what credit card you use. Now we
Speaker 2: hear the stories about you know, Kroger changing their tags
Speaker 2: in store, which is more about saving money for them
Speaker 2: because of the cost of seven switch out prices and
Speaker 2: do an electronic and store pricing. People, Oh, they're just
Speaker 2: going to go to this tiered model, right, It's going
Speaker 2: to be surge pricing maybe, but probably not tiered pricing
Speaker 2: at checkout based on what credit card do. So Visa,
Speaker 2: MasterCard and merchants reached the settlement, ending a twenty year
Speaker 2: anti trust battle over they're called interchange fees. So these
Speaker 2: are the chargers that banks collect for merchants for credit
Speaker 2: card transactions. They charge them a percentage and the deal
Speaker 2: is struck. And before this, merchants, for example, if you
Speaker 2: accepted Visa, you had to take all visa credit cards,
Speaker 2: doesn't matter what the brand was or what point it was.
Speaker 3: And the new rules would allow them now to pick
Speaker 3: and choose rich category.
Speaker 2: So the categories we're not talking about, you know, is
Speaker 2: it a points card to know different categories are. For example,
Speaker 2: you've got your entry level cards like the Capitol and Quicksilver.
Speaker 2: Then you got the mid market cards which are like
Speaker 2: a Chase Sapphire Preferred. You have your premiums, which are
Speaker 2: like an MX Platinum, or the super premiums, which is
Speaker 2: thousands of dollars a year, would be a black card
Speaker 2: because it's a status item. So those are like the
Speaker 2: different categories of cards that they have. So the way
Speaker 2: the new rule would work is basic cards might have
Speaker 2: lower search chargers than a premium awards card. So if
Speaker 2: you use your AMX instead of that I don't know
Speaker 2: Discover card for example, you may be paying more in
Speaker 2: that too as well. And now some merchant's course charge
Speaker 2: flat fees for this too, but the pricing can be
Speaker 2: more granular, and so the outcome they projected outcome here
Speaker 2: is you'll see more fees as opposed to refusal. Some
Speaker 2: places you can use this card. You can't use that
Speaker 2: when I get that, but buy and large. You'll check
Speaker 2: that statement and go, wait a minute, I just bought
Speaker 2: a coffee and use this card here, and the one
Speaker 2: that I just bought is twenty five cents more. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's because of which car you use. So just FYI
Speaker 2: if indeed this goes into effect next week, well the news,
Speaker 2: we'll talk about your phone battery life, very important stuff.
Speaker 2: Just ahead, Scott Sloan, home of the best Bengals coverage
Speaker 2: seven hundred WW Since now do.
Speaker 8: You want to be an American?
Speaker 2: It's got phone back on seven hundred wlw's all the
Speaker 2: bells and whistles like multiple camber lenses and pixels and
Speaker 2: health tracking. It's got a microwave in it, an AI
Speaker 2: and what users really care about with the phone. I
Speaker 2: think I may be wrong is battery life. How much
Speaker 2: battery can I get out of this? How when do
Speaker 2: I I gotta charge this again? I'm almost I'm done
Speaker 2: a one bar, I'm one done as it's good to
Speaker 2: oh man, you know phones right?
Speaker 3: And yeah, I'm not shooting a Hollywood film.
Speaker 5: I'm good.
Speaker 2: I'm not Steven Spielberg. All I want to do is
Speaker 2: text somebody can you help me out? Patrick Hollin is
Speaker 2: here from Cnet our friends at seen at He studied
Speaker 2: three years of phone data so you didn't have to.
Speaker 2: And Patrick, of course spend a lot of time here
Speaker 2: in cincyback and they how are you?
Speaker 7: Hey, I'm very good. Still trying to find that in
Speaker 7: my away by my iPhone, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there, I think it's there. It's just buried in
Speaker 2: like one of the I forget what happens, and it's
Speaker 2: somewhere in there. But that's a disturbing parer. We've got
Speaker 2: all these cool features and bugs on the phone. The
Speaker 2: commercial we see a lot now right is, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I'm shooting a Hollywood movie on this great.
Speaker 3: Can I get a battery to last better than like
Speaker 3: eight hours? That'd be fantastic.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Absolutely. I've been in reviewing phones for almost a
Speaker 7: decade now, and the number one and number two things
Speaker 7: people want are a lower price and more battery.
Speaker 2: That's that easy, okay, And I know you probably did
Speaker 2: did iPhone too, But this this applies is most of
Speaker 2: us upgrade simply because our battery wears out right. It's
Speaker 2: not the camera, the processors. I got the latest chip
Speaker 2: on all that stuff. You know, it's basically about my
Speaker 2: battery doesn't charge long enough. Absolutely, you look at your
Speaker 2: battery and there's two things you can do. You you
Speaker 2: can either take it in and pay like thirty to
Speaker 2: fifty dollars to have it swap down and get a
Speaker 2: new one in and there'll probably last a couple more years.
Speaker 2: Or what most people do is they buy a new phone.
Speaker 2: And what's great about these new iPhones for the iPhone
Speaker 2: seventeen series is all of them have bigger batteries and
Speaker 2: it's no logic there that bigger is better and you
Speaker 2: get more battery life because of it. So you spent
Speaker 2: you looked at three years of data and testing all
Speaker 2: this stuff. But what's the most surpriing prising of finding
Speaker 2: for you, Patrick came out of.
Speaker 7: Us absolutely the going through set labs. We have decade,
Speaker 7: over a decade worth of data, but over the last
Speaker 7: three years, specifically for battery testing and charging. It's no
Speaker 7: surprise that the iPhone seventeen series has a longer battery
Speaker 7: life than the iPhone sixteen series and definitely than the
Speaker 7: iPhone fifteen series. In fact, the iPhone seventeen promacs that
Speaker 7: you've probably seen like pictures of that orange color. That
Speaker 7: one has the biggest battery ever in an iPhone, and
Speaker 7: it's no surprise it actually topped all of our battery tests.
Speaker 7: It's the highest rated phone you can get and raid
Speaker 7: or iPhone at this time. We know there's probably gonna
Speaker 7: be some more end phones coming out soon. And the
Speaker 7: other thing is there's that really den iPhone, the iPhone
Speaker 7: Air you may have heard about, and there was a
Speaker 7: lot of worries about the battery life of that because
Speaker 7: a very thin phone doesn't have a lot of room
Speaker 7: for a battery. But turns out it's battery life is
Speaker 7: it gets through a day. I wouldn't want to recommend
Speaker 7: it for a power user, but it scored an our
Speaker 7: test on on par with the iPhone fifteen from just
Speaker 7: a couple of years ago.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 7: So looking through on the scene at lab Data really
Speaker 7: helps us put just pretty clear in perspective which phones
Speaker 7: people should get and spend their money on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw this metric the seventeen promacs a new one.
Speaker 2: You did a three hour streaming test, so that's you
Speaker 2: know that's gonna eat ups in battery. It just it
Speaker 2: lost less than ten percent battery. That's incredible. What are
Speaker 2: they doing differently this year? I mean, it seemed like
Speaker 2: we've hit peak battery. I know, back of the day,
Speaker 2: you know you're lucky if you get forty five minutes
Speaker 2: out of a half hour out of a charge. Right,
Speaker 2: But as we progressed here in the lithium batteries and
Speaker 2: ion is a new technology that just getting is about
Speaker 2: heat dissipation.
Speaker 3: What are they getting out of it to make it less?
Speaker 3: How long?
Speaker 7: It's a little bit of both. So traditionally the iPhone
Speaker 7: has at olythium ion battery. It still does. There are
Speaker 7: some exciting Android phones coming out. One of them, the
Speaker 7: only one in the US, I believe, is the one
Speaker 7: plus thirteen that has a silicon carbon battery. And all
Speaker 7: that means is for the same sized battery as the
Speaker 7: lithium ion, you get one one and a half times
Speaker 7: more capacity to it, so you get much more battery life.
Speaker 7: But Apple didn't go that route. Instead, what they did
Speaker 7: is they just put a physically larger battery in, but
Speaker 7: then they also optimize things. They optimize for video playback
Speaker 7: so it has less heat from the processor. In the
Speaker 7: Pro models, there's actually a cooling chamber now that goes
Speaker 7: over the processor, so it allows it to work a
Speaker 7: little harder without causing more heat, and heat therefore makes
Speaker 7: things go slower and you have to slow things down.
Speaker 7: That doesn't turn off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, bigger batteries great, But does that it more weight?
Speaker 7: It definitely does. So the seventeen Pro and Promacs are
Speaker 7: the heaviest iPhones we've tested. While they have an aluminum body,
Speaker 7: so that is different from the titanium frames before, but
Speaker 7: I think most people probably wouldn't even notice that it's heavier.
Speaker 7: I will also say, though, I would recommend if you're
Speaker 7: looking at just a regular seventeen Pro, take a look
Speaker 7: at the iPhone seventeen. It's battery life is right on
Speaker 7: par with it, it costs hundreds less, and for most people,
Speaker 7: if you don't need that telephoto camera, it's actually quite
Speaker 7: an amazing deal.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're a creator, the Promax is great
Speaker 2: and you're shooting those Hollywood movies, I guess, but you know,
Speaker 2: if you're a creator three hour streaming, you're going to
Speaker 2: need that.
Speaker 3: But for most of us, we're not.
Speaker 7: So yeah, and they're still going to be. There's still outliers, right,
Speaker 7: you get the creative types you're making the movies and stuff.
Speaker 7: But you also have people who are like obsessively online
Speaker 7: and they're always on their phone, and there's not going
Speaker 7: to ever really be a phone with a battery that's
Speaker 7: going to be what they need. And part of it's
Speaker 7: a behavior thing. Part of it's just you're using it
Speaker 7: so much. But I have to say for most people, yeah,
Speaker 7: these new iPhones should do really well. I really am
Speaker 7: surprised by the iPhone seventeen from that just how much
Speaker 7: of a jump of tad the last two years. So
Speaker 7: if you're holding onto an old iPhone, like an iPhone fourteen,
Speaker 7: just know you're going to get better battery life. But
Speaker 7: if you have an iPhone fifteen, I would challenge you
Speaker 7: to think about just having your battery or place. It's
Speaker 7: much more affordable. It's going to extend the life of
Speaker 7: your phone. And you like the screen and the cameras,
Speaker 7: you've got nothing to lose.
Speaker 2: If you're a business user, maybe you'll run your own business.
Speaker 2: My wife, for example, is a real estate barker. She's
Speaker 2: on her phone all the time, talking or texting. How
Speaker 2: does that three hour streaming test where it loses just
Speaker 2: nine percent battery, how does that stack up to just
Speaker 2: using the phone is what causes the battery to cook
Speaker 2: more talking on the phone or streaming.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so the biggest killer for the phone's battery is
Speaker 7: going to be your cellular connection. So if you look
Speaker 7: at the bars in your phone, if you have full bars,
Speaker 7: it means you are in a good place and the
Speaker 7: phone's not struggling to reach that antenna. But it's like
Speaker 7: missing a bar too. That's going to be that your
Speaker 7: phone's going to really be pushing to grab that five
Speaker 7: G data and stuff like that. The other thing is display.
Speaker 7: These displays get so bright and the new phones have
Speaker 7: even brighter displays, and there's some efficiency in the materials
Speaker 7: they're using, but it's still going to draw a lot
Speaker 7: of power for that. So the other thing we do
Speaker 7: is in Sceneate Labs, we not only have the three
Speaker 7: hour video streaming test, we have a forty five anecdotal
Speaker 7: test where where we just put it under stress for
Speaker 7: forty five minutes and what we're doing is we're doing
Speaker 7: as we're playing video games or streaming, scrolling social news
Speaker 7: feeds and things like that to really reflect what my
Speaker 7: people might be using it on. And again, the iPhones
Speaker 7: perform very well in that test. And our ultimate test
Speaker 7: is we actually use these phones as our daily driver
Speaker 7: while we're testing them, and so we know that if
Speaker 7: we start the day at six am with a full battery,
Speaker 7: something like the Promax is ending the day at thirty
Speaker 7: thirty three thirty five percent. Wow.
Speaker 2: Great, I think that's incredible. Patrick Collin from c NEET
Speaker 2: and they're the guys that look at the equipment, all
Speaker 2: the cool tech that we buy and break it down
Speaker 2: tell you what the value is. He study three years
Speaker 2: of phone data find out which all we care about
Speaker 2: really outside of you know, all these big cameras and
Speaker 2: bells and whistles is battery life, and which phones get
Speaker 2: the best battery life? I iPhone seventeen Promacs and the
Speaker 2: I seventeen the best. Right now, it's like a three
Speaker 2: hour streaming test lost nine percent of battery. Obviously it's
Speaker 2: going to consume more if you're using cellular and the like.
Speaker 2: So in bigger batteries don't does mean bigger life?
Speaker 6: Is that true?
Speaker 3: That's true?
Speaker 7: I mean we look at Android phones, they traditionally have
Speaker 7: much bigger batteries than the iPhone, but their software is
Speaker 7: not optimized because that Android software has to work across
Speaker 7: a variety of different phone designs and different processors and
Speaker 7: things like that. So since Apple controls the software, the battery,
Speaker 7: the processor, it's able to get much more efficiency out
Speaker 7: of these I will stay smaller batteries. They don't want
Speaker 7: you to know that, so if you ever go on
Speaker 7: their site, you don't see them say how big the
Speaker 7: gas take is, so to speak. But just know that
Speaker 7: if you have a big truck with a big gas take,
Speaker 7: it doesn't mean it gets great fuel efficiency. I So
Speaker 7: in the case of the iPhone, it's all about that
Speaker 7: fuel efficiency.
Speaker 3: Are you sai.
Speaker 2: You're saying, basically, is the iPhone just a better phone
Speaker 2: battery wise than androids?
Speaker 7: I would say there are Android phones that compete with it.
Speaker 7: So the one plus thirteen really impressed us. And there's
Speaker 7: a lot of the Chinese brand phones that we don't
Speaker 7: get in the US that are probably even better than
Speaker 7: the iPhone in some of these tests. As we don't
Speaker 7: get them here, we don't get to test them all
Speaker 7: in the same way, or they're in mandarate and things
Speaker 7: like that. But yeah, so the iPhone is not the
Speaker 7: only way to go to get a big to get
Speaker 7: a long battery life, but it's the phone that most
Speaker 7: people have in the US, and it's the most people
Speaker 7: care about the US.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, no, that's that's entirely juman. I'm an
Speaker 2: Apple user and it just all works like it should
Speaker 2: and maybe a little more expensive, but it works, and
Speaker 2: I pay a premium for stuff working and sinking as
Speaker 2: it should. When you go back years of like maybe
Speaker 2: I have a sixteen or fifteen or fourteen, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: and well, I mean, it's working, okay, Can I slug
Speaker 2: out for another year? You know, the way the economy
Speaker 2: is and money's tight. These damn things are expensive and
Speaker 2: I gotta extend my contract depending who I have. Is
Speaker 2: there a difference? What's it is like the sixteen plus
Speaker 2: and name the seventeen promax? I mean, is it night
Speaker 2: and day?
Speaker 7: In terms of batter life? It's not night and day.
Speaker 7: And even in terms of like cameras, it's not night
Speaker 7: and day. Obviously, if you go back three four years,
Speaker 7: you start seeing some major differences in noting battery life,
Speaker 7: but the cameras your photos will look better, have more
Speaker 7: dismos to make you take better photos, even if you're
Speaker 7: not a great photographer. You'll have a bigger screen or
Speaker 7: brighter screen and things like that. But if you really
Speaker 7: go back, like I would say for most of these phones,
Speaker 7: if you have an iPhone fourteen and you're thinking about upgrade,
Speaker 7: that's a good place to be. If you have an
Speaker 7: iPhone fifteen, and unless you really are going to get
Speaker 7: a good deal, I would say it's worth sitting out.
Speaker 7: But that's the other thing I feel a lot of
Speaker 7: people don't look at and one of our scene at
Speaker 7: surveys we found that a lot of people don't even
Speaker 7: trade in their old phones, and you could trade that in.
Speaker 7: Think of it like a car. You're going to get
Speaker 7: much better value toward that new phone. And the best
Speaker 7: time to trade in is actually when they first launched,
Speaker 7: because Apple, O, Verizon, all these all these carriers are
Speaker 7: offering these really these deals sometimes I can quote unquote
Speaker 7: pay for the whole phone, right, So you got to
Speaker 7: look out for that too, all right.
Speaker 2: Patrick Collin was seen at studying a phone data which
Speaker 2: ones had the best battery life Right now, the Apple
Speaker 2: seventeen Pro Max is pretty damn good, or the seventeen
Speaker 2: Pro for that matter, is doing really really well, and
Speaker 2: it's one I spo.
Speaker 3: Okay, the battery share. What about charging time?
Speaker 2: So if I get a battery charger bank, battery bank,
Speaker 2: or I plug in somewhere, I need to get some
Speaker 2: juice in my phone. That is a I think as
Speaker 2: an outlier, right, because not all charging platforms are built
Speaker 2: the same.
Speaker 3: Something's charged faster than others. What about the phone itself?
Speaker 7: Yeah, so Apple has increased the charging on it. So
Speaker 7: we have kind of two types of charges. We have
Speaker 7: wired charging and we have wireless or app calls it
Speaker 7: mag safe, right. I don't know if you or your
Speaker 7: wife have like one of those magnetic stocks.
Speaker 3: And I notice we got one.
Speaker 2: I've got one in my next to my nightstand. I
Speaker 2: put my phone on it on my alarm clock and
Speaker 2: that charge is pretty fast. And then she's got one
Speaker 2: she used for her phone in the kitchen and it's
Speaker 2: like half as fast.
Speaker 3: What's going on?
Speaker 7: Yeah, So with those wireless charging there's kind of these
Speaker 7: different standards. So Apple, Google, Samsung and hundreds of other
Speaker 7: companies are part of the thing called the Wireless Power Consortium,
Speaker 7: and they have the standard called KE it's called you
Speaker 7: spell it out QI, and the original like standard is
Speaker 7: like very slow charging there's Key too that came out
Speaker 7: maybe two years ago, and that's a bit faster. And
Speaker 7: then the last version's Key two point two. So that
Speaker 7: gives us these twenty five watt speeds that you're probably experiencing.
Speaker 7: But sounds like maybe your wife might have an older
Speaker 7: mag safe stock, but it still has the magnet, it
Speaker 7: still does the wireless charging. And what's great is that
Speaker 7: those speeds you're not killing the battery. You're not I know,
Speaker 7: years ago we'd recommend not keeping it on the charger
Speaker 7: all the time. Most phones have SOWT for the AI
Speaker 7: that kind of solved for that problem. But with these
Speaker 7: wireless chargers, it just goes slow and steady. And for
Speaker 7: the iPhone, the wireless charging on the new phones can
Speaker 7: hit twenty five lots, which is pretty pretty fast.
Speaker 2: How much factor that I mean, okay, ten walk difference
Speaker 2: Let's say between a fifteen minutes or fifteen twenty five
Speaker 2: Let's just say that for measure how much and that.
Speaker 7: Ten wats Like if you were just throwing it on
Speaker 7: a wireless dock for twenty minutes, you're going to probably
Speaker 7: see the difference between like ten or fifteen percent more
Speaker 7: charge on the newer one, right, But then there's the
Speaker 7: wire charging, which if you plug that in and have
Speaker 7: they don't give you the wall charger in the dock.
Speaker 7: But if you get a one of the newer wall
Speaker 7: chargers that's capable of these speeds, you're gonna be able
Speaker 7: to hit fifty percent in twenty minutes on all the phones.
Speaker 7: So in our scene at lab testing, we also tested
Speaker 7: the charging speed and found that Apple's claims of fifty
Speaker 7: percent in twenty minutes where we're ballot, one of them
Speaker 7: hit forty nine. But that's margin of error.
Speaker 2: Right, So yeah, interesting, So yeah, look for that twenty
Speaker 2: five watch charger or the mag safe charger or the
Speaker 2: things for your phone and get the fastest when you can.
Speaker 3: So the more waded, the faster chargers.
Speaker 2: That makes a lot of sense, yeah, because that's a
Speaker 2: big question too, is like, man, my phone doesn't charge
Speaker 2: fast enough, and that that could be wise. Well all right,
Speaker 2: so bottom line here, head into a holiday shopping season,
Speaker 2: maybe gonna last minute Christmas gift wherever it might be
Speaker 2: for the holidays.
Speaker 3: What are you looking at? What'd you get?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 7: So I think if we're just for sticking with iPhones,
Speaker 7: I would say that if you want the best battery life,
Speaker 7: you're get to go with the Promac. If you want
Speaker 7: a really good battery life, and we're not talking dramatically
Speaker 7: less than the Promac, I would say, look at the
Speaker 7: iPhone seventeen. It not only costs hundreds of dollars less,
Speaker 7: it has an amazing battery life. And that battery life
Speaker 7: is still better than the iPhone sixteen and the iPhone
Speaker 7: fifteen before it. And definitely as you get to older phones,
Speaker 7: and if you're looking into things like charging, also think
Speaker 7: about accessories. I feel like that's a place where a
Speaker 7: lot of forget. So if you want to take advantage
Speaker 7: of some of these faster speeds, take a look at
Speaker 7: the stuff that you have in your house, or you
Speaker 7: might have to get something from Apple or Amazon that
Speaker 7: supports these faster speeds to really enjoy it.
Speaker 3: Utcha And once again, if you're going Android.
Speaker 7: If you go on Android, I would say the phone
Speaker 7: I would recommend and I hesitated about this is the
Speaker 7: Galaxy S twenty five Ultra. That's going to be a
Speaker 7: very good battery life phone. However, we they traditionally launched
Speaker 7: a new model in January, so I would say, if
Speaker 7: you can wait on buying an Android phone, like for
Speaker 7: a month or two that you're probably going to have
Speaker 7: a new one waiting for you on the other side
Speaker 7: of the new year. And another good one to look
Speaker 7: at is the one plus thirteen. This thing has a
Speaker 7: seven over seven thousand million our battery that's almost one
Speaker 7: and a half times bigger than the iPhone Promax. It
Speaker 7: gets incredible battery life, and it has insane charging speeds.
Speaker 7: It can get eighty lot of wireless charging. And again
Speaker 7: this is a Chinese brand, and out side the US
Speaker 7: that same phone gets one hundred watch. But we have
Speaker 7: some regulations that we have regulations.
Speaker 2: Correct, they don't care about radiation and burns or fires,
Speaker 2: answer and things like that fires in China some regular Now, okay,
Speaker 2: those Now that the the phone that Ted Danson advertises
Speaker 2: for the elderly folks, right, that one that still runs
Speaker 2: on coal.
Speaker 7: Right, I'm sure it does.
Speaker 6: But you know what, four.
Speaker 5: Just numbers.
Speaker 2: I don't need mail, I don't need to take pictures.
Speaker 2: I just need a phone with numbers on it. And
Speaker 2: I've got my numbers in my purse and I type
Speaker 2: them in.
Speaker 7: I say, look to our elders, because I think there's
Speaker 7: something to say about.
Speaker 8: Having a phone.
Speaker 7: That's that's simple, and that you're not on your phone
Speaker 7: all the time. Granted, we're able to run businesses, we're
Speaker 7: able to make movies, we're able to do all these
Speaker 7: amazing things in our phones. But for a lot of us,
Speaker 7: it's a lot of place to go when we're boord
Speaker 7: and get swelled into scrolling and doom scrolling right.
Speaker 3: Right, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: My mom passed away four years ago and she's still
Speaker 2: at eighty percent on her phone. It's incredible because it's
Speaker 2: like it's just there's nothing else going on here, all right.
Speaker 2: He is Patrick Collin with CNET. Thanks again for the
Speaker 2: I always love your stuff. Man, you guys are great
Speaker 2: and I'll always love having you on, So don't be
Speaker 2: a stranger.
Speaker 7: I appreciate. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: Take care.
Speaker 2: Crazy story with Denver Broncos linebacker Alex Singleton. He gets
Speaker 2: a NFL you know, random drug test shows up and
Speaker 2: it looks like, wow, you're on steroids or you have
Speaker 2: testicular cancer because your hormonne levels are utivated. He said, well,
Speaker 2: I'm not on steroids. Goes to doctor so right after
Speaker 2: the game on Thursday night, Friday morning, is in surgery
Speaker 2: It's amazing what these screenings can't catch. And that was
Speaker 2: just lucky. Doctor Asanj's on the show. Next to our
Speaker 2: weekly health and fitness segment with him, we'll talk about
Speaker 2: the test you need by age, so in your thirties, forties, fifties,
Speaker 2: sixties and beyond, which ones are necessary, which ones are
Speaker 2: just stupid. We'll get to that just to head Sloaney,
Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW. Scott's phoning back on seven hundred w
Speaker 2: LW Thursday Morning check in kind of a new segment
Speaker 2: of the show. Sanjay Schevacremani is an EIR physician here
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati, but also his entire brand is about health
Speaker 2: and food and fitness, so all those things are interesting
Speaker 2: come together. Not the kind of pushy like do a
Speaker 2: thousand push ups and only eat avocado kind of guy.
Speaker 2: He's like a normal dude. He was talking about a
Speaker 2: favorite steak a minute ago. Son Jay, welcome back.
Speaker 3: How are you?
Speaker 9: It's only morning, Sloan. It's only nine hundred and fifty
Speaker 9: push ups a day for me, not a full thousand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I like some of the men's magazines where I don't
Speaker 2: need to squad a refrigerator I'm good man, I'm good.
Speaker 3: I'm exactly.
Speaker 2: It's an interesting story that just happened on Thursday. Denver
Speaker 2: Bronco linebacker Alex Singleton, if you heard the story, had
Speaker 2: nine tackles on Thursday nights when Friday morning he's in
Speaker 2: surgery for testicular cancer. What had happened is the NFL
Speaker 2: gave me random drug screening tests to do all players,
Speaker 2: and it came back and said, hey, you're positive. And
Speaker 2: he said, well, I know I don't take steroids. The
Speaker 2: only other thing that could be with the raised hormone
Speaker 2: levels is testicular cancer. He went to a physician, he tested.
Speaker 2: It was that he went to surgery and I guess
Speaker 2: he's doing much much better. But no, hear that someone
Speaker 2: young and vibrately an NFL player testicular cass. Had they
Speaker 2: not had that drug screen that could have been fatal.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean fortunate, really fortunate and lucky. It's actually
Speaker 9: it reminds me of a story from Reddit about ten
Speaker 9: years ago where a guy posted a pregnancy test strip
Speaker 9: from his girlfriend and it was He's like, I urinated
Speaker 9: on this and it's positive. Isn't this funny? And then
Speaker 9: people chimed in one after another. That's like, hey, get
Speaker 9: checked out. That's probably testicular cancer, right, because of the
Speaker 9: hormones that are secreted when you have it. He saw
Speaker 9: a doctor and then had surgery, and so again it's
Speaker 9: the same lucky thing. The concern being, you know, what
Speaker 9: if it wasn't for that drug test, What if it
Speaker 9: wasn't for him being on a pregnancy test strip, what then?
Speaker 9: And that's the real thing about preventative care is getting
Speaker 9: ahead of things, and not by luck alone, but because you're.
Speaker 2: Pernously doing there. I know there's a lot of things
Speaker 2: in medicine like that. I mean, I'm gonna butcher this
Speaker 2: because it's been a long time. But as I recall,
Speaker 2: I knew someone who was he and I exam and
Speaker 2: they found some doesn't quite look quite right there anyway,
Speaker 2: A long story short, I think there's is there a
Speaker 2: connection between the the ocular nerve or the the eyeball
Speaker 2: and is it delivered the kidney is something along those lines,
Speaker 2: And it turns out it was to be a cancer,
Speaker 2: they will to catch it extremely early simply because the
Speaker 2: optomologist saw something like that doesn't look quite right.
Speaker 9: Yeah, there are links between kind of all the organs
Speaker 9: that the kidneys can change your eyes, change your eyes,
Speaker 9: and so like, yeah, everything's connected and just getting some
Speaker 9: getting yourself looked at can lead to a lot of
Speaker 9: important findings that that can you know, save your life.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you as an er doc, you see this,
Speaker 2: you know, you see the result of this stuff of
Speaker 2: either the bad luck where you don't catch the stuff
Speaker 2: or people just ignoring the symptoms. You talk about preventative
Speaker 2: measures too. One of the biggest things we're starting to
Speaker 2: learn more about, and I'm a big proponent of, is
Speaker 2: vitamin D.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and this is this is something that has been
Speaker 9: around for a long time that people have talked about
Speaker 9: vitamins and vitamin D and specific But when we think
Speaker 9: about vitamin D usually you think about what it's usually sunshine,
Speaker 9: sunshine and then leading to bone health, and people think
Speaker 9: about calcium and everything. But what we're learning is there
Speaker 9: are so many more benefits to vitamin D and getting
Speaker 9: through that data of what you know, what it helps,
Speaker 9: and what it may not is part of the plan.
Speaker 9: But really, vitamin D seems to be one of the
Speaker 9: most important things that we can measure in our body.
Speaker 2: Is vitamin D going to be the new protein because
Speaker 2: you just said because everything's got protein and the protein
Speaker 2: has extra protein, water with protein and it now cereal
Speaker 2: has extra protein. We're getting protein all the time, which
Speaker 2: is not a bad thing, But are we going to
Speaker 2: have everything with extra vitamin D at it now?
Speaker 9: Because of this, I wouldn't be surprised. So you know,
Speaker 9: in time we'll see. So again, vitamin D healthy for
Speaker 9: bone health. It helps your body get calcium into it,
Speaker 9: phosphorus that goes into your bones. But also it turns
Speaker 9: out that almost every organ in our body has vitamin
Speaker 9: D receptors, So it's not just the bones, it's in
Speaker 9: our brain. So you know, the serotonin that makes you
Speaker 9: happy that relies on vitamin D our heart. There's actually
Speaker 9: a study that just came out about men with that
Speaker 9: I've had a heart attack. If they had their vitamin
Speaker 9: D levels increased to greater than forty they had a
Speaker 9: fifty percent less chance of a second heart attack after that.
Speaker 9: That was just released like a month ago from Inner
Speaker 9: Mountain Health. And so knowing that data, I think there's
Speaker 9: going to be a lot more studies into what vitamin
Speaker 9: D can do to help us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of all the supplements, is that the one you
Speaker 3: recommend the.
Speaker 9: Most Yeah, of all of them, that would be it.
Speaker 9: I mean there's a lot of stuff out there. We
Speaker 9: talked about zinc last week for getting better, but I'd
Speaker 9: say vitamin D is one of the most things you
Speaker 9: can take for your own health, and.
Speaker 2: Real quick on that to the de belaevor. But what
Speaker 2: about delivery, because there's you know, if gummies, you have
Speaker 2: the typical big giant vitamin, you have the liquid caps
Speaker 2: that I take.
Speaker 1: What.
Speaker 9: Yeah, the liquid caps are great, that all of them
Speaker 9: are fine, the best way that works for you. But
Speaker 9: you want to take the vitamin D three. It can
Speaker 9: come in D two form, but D three is the
Speaker 9: one you want, and really it's hard to get toxic
Speaker 9: on it, right, So these things come in international units.
Speaker 9: If you're taking more than ten thousand international units a
Speaker 9: day for a long time, that can hurt you. But
Speaker 9: usually in the range of like two thousand to four
Speaker 9: thousand and six thousand a day, you're okay. That being said,
Speaker 9: the benefits in that study were really for the people
Speaker 9: who were low to start, and so you do want
Speaker 9: to also get your levels checked so you make sure
Speaker 9: that if you're deficient, you're getting to a good level.
Speaker 9: If you're in a greater than forty range, which I
Speaker 9: know is slow and you're probably around there. Oh if
Speaker 9: you're there and there's less need for it, but you're
Speaker 9: also doing stuff to bring up your vitamin D.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. Then there's the different things you can have, right,
Speaker 2: you have, you have D two, D three, you have
Speaker 2: K two. You have all these things right right.
Speaker 9: I mean it's like it's just it's alphabet soup as numericals,
Speaker 9: So really matter as long as you're getting D three, Yeah,
Speaker 9: D three is what you want, and whatever form it
Speaker 9: comes in, you should be Okay. I just I literally
Speaker 9: after seeing that internat and the house study about heart attacks,
Speaker 9: not that I've had a heart attack before, but I
Speaker 9: bought gummies myself. I okay, you know, I didn't think
Speaker 9: about it. But as we enter the cold season, there's
Speaker 9: a couple of things that drop our vitamin D levels. So,
Speaker 9: as you mentioned, the sun is what produces most of
Speaker 9: our vitamin D. It hits our skin, vitamin D is produced.
Speaker 9: But in the winter times November to February in Cincinnati,
Speaker 9: we're not getting the sunlight we need for a couple
Speaker 9: of reasons. One, we're not going out because as we
Speaker 9: all experience, it's cold as heck right now. And then two,
Speaker 9: the sun is actually at a lower angle, so it's
Speaker 9: hitting our body at this weird angle that does not
Speaker 9: produce vitamin D anymore.
Speaker 2: All right, So that's a good start. I'm real quick
Speaker 2: because you know, like like a few minutes. But Sonjay,
Speaker 2: let's talk about the tests that you should be getting
Speaker 2: based on age. You know, twenties, you're having a good
Speaker 2: by the time you get thirty, it's time to start,
Speaker 2: you know, get a base one with what blood pressure, skin,
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where we want to be.
Speaker 9: So our bodies are pretty forgiving, as we've all experienced
Speaker 9: in our twenties and thirties. There's a lot of things
Speaker 9: we can do and don't have to do, but it
Speaker 9: is a good time to set up habits. That is,
Speaker 9: you know, seeing a physician or at least having your
Speaker 9: blood pressure checked annually, making sure you like cholesterol is okay,
Speaker 9: and then also developing the habits including you know, good
Speaker 9: dietary lifestyle, but also fitness and and lifting to help
Speaker 9: set yourself up for a longer, higher quality life that'll
Speaker 9: be your twenties.
Speaker 3: And maybe what about things like baseline EKGs diabetes screenings.
Speaker 3: What wage group does that.
Speaker 9: Commend diabetes screening, I'd say is in the It depends
Speaker 9: on your risk factors. You know, if you're if you're obese,
Speaker 9: if you have a family history of diabetes, you want
Speaker 9: to get checked earlier. Usually it's thirties and forties that
Speaker 9: diabetes it is starting to be checked for the most part.
Speaker 9: You know, again, I'm emergency room doctor.
Speaker 7: It is not what you do.
Speaker 9: This is the stuff and so, but what I do
Speaker 9: see is the long long standing effects or the problems
Speaker 9: that develop because people haven't gotten screened or haven't had
Speaker 9: their symptoms managed. And diabetes is one of those things
Speaker 9: that's easy to check for that would be important to
Speaker 9: check early.
Speaker 2: All Right, when you see people coming to the emergencery
Speaker 2: with symptoms, I'd imagine too many times you're not diagnosing
Speaker 2: cancer in the ED right.
Speaker 9: Unfortunately more often than you said.
Speaker 2: So let's let's rewind that. Then that's gonna come probably
Speaker 2: in your sixties fifties, we.
Speaker 9: I mean, that's that's when it's more normal. Yes, but
Speaker 9: I'll tell you I've had twenty year olds diagnosed with
Speaker 9: breast cancer that I've diagnosed with breast cancer, pancreatic cancer.
Speaker 9: It's a terrible one which is even hard to screen for.
Speaker 9: But that that I've diagnosed in forty year olds, it
Speaker 9: can happen at any age, which is not I don't
Speaker 9: mean to be doom and gloom, but it's my reality
Speaker 9: and that's what I see. Yes, it's rare, but these
Speaker 9: are there are certain ones that can be prevented. You
Speaker 9: talked about testicular cancer, So guys, just doing a testicular
Speaker 9: exam annually we can help screen for those women doing
Speaker 9: breast exams that you can screen annually for that before
Speaker 9: we get into the time of mimography stuff.
Speaker 2: Right, so then colon ascoby is the happy time right
Speaker 2: around fifty. But with PSA, with the advanced test, the
Speaker 2: PSA tests and stool tests and stuff like that, has
Speaker 2: that gone the old digit test is that done now?
Speaker 9: So less digit tests now that we have the stool test,
Speaker 9: so fortunately there's less of it. But we still check
Speaker 9: for prostate cancer, you know, manually. Although PSA has has
Speaker 9: shown some promise, it's just not a catch all and
Speaker 9: so your your physician may want to still do the
Speaker 9: digital exam to check your prostate but it's an important
Speaker 9: part still just to screen. It's a it's a thing
Speaker 9: that most men will have by the time they're eighty,
Speaker 9: they will have some form of prosta cancer. But you know,
Speaker 9: for the most part, it's not going to be life threatening.
Speaker 9: That being said, it can be, and so it's always
Speaker 9: good to get it checked and also have someone who
Speaker 9: can put it into context for you because there's a
Speaker 9: lot of noise out there.
Speaker 2: I know a couple of people wouldn't do it and
Speaker 2: then they wind up getting prostate cancer, dying and regretted it.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's certainly something you don't want to have
Speaker 3: to go.
Speaker 7: Oh.
Speaker 2: It's not the highlight of your day either, nor is
Speaker 2: for the patient, but it's one of those necessary things.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 2: Some of these things you see about different types of scans,
Speaker 2: the calcium whatever that is where you've got the blood
Speaker 2: pressure cuff on your ankle and they jump on your
Speaker 2: chest or whatever the hell is done. I was fine,
Speaker 2: I guess I don't know what this is, but Okay,
Speaker 2: there's different tests like that that are offered, and yet
Speaker 2: there are other ones where are like get a full Hey,
Speaker 2: we're gonna be the library with this truck tomorrow for
Speaker 2: two thousand dollars you can get a full body seet
Speaker 2: What do I really need.
Speaker 9: Need is an interesting thing. I hesitate to do the
Speaker 9: full body scans or advise people to get it, just
Speaker 9: because there's so much information there. I'll tell you that,
Speaker 9: like even in our scans we do in the emergency
Speaker 9: department for reasons for symptoms, we'll find a lot of
Speaker 9: what we call incidental lomas, things that we find just
Speaker 9: by accident that probably don't mean anything.
Speaker 3: Probably benign exactly, but would work a.
Speaker 9: Patient up and and you know then they may have
Speaker 9: unnecessary scans to follow that up. Said, occasionally we do
Speaker 9: find something that needs follow up, but for the most part,
Speaker 9: we're finding more things than we need to with those
Speaker 9: full body scans. That being said, there's things like the
Speaker 9: DEXA scan, which is very low radiation X ray for
Speaker 9: the whole body that tells you a good idea about
Speaker 9: how your bone health is, how your muscle health is,
Speaker 9: and how much kind of fat you have on you
Speaker 9: And those are cheaper. They're usually run about one hundred
Speaker 9: dollars and they're definitely gaining popularity as far as getting
Speaker 9: an idea of where you are, and a lot of
Speaker 9: places are.
Speaker 3: Offering, especially for women in their sixties and sixty five.
Speaker 9: And for sure, and that's kind of where it started,
Speaker 9: was to check FROs your porosis, so basically thinning bones.
Speaker 9: But now they've they've found ways to actually expand that
Speaker 9: to say how much lean muscle mass do I have?
Speaker 9: And that can be that is an important part as
Speaker 9: we're learning more and more. You mentioned protein earlier, Yeah,
Speaker 9: it is an important part of our lives, is are
Speaker 9: how much muscle mass.
Speaker 8: Do we have?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean it's fascinating because you see these tests and go,
Speaker 2: I really need that. I know someone had added and
Speaker 2: I think the problem with that is it's so granular,
Speaker 2: right is if you looked at the human skeleton, which
Speaker 2: is pretty clean, but you know, as you know, if
Speaker 2: you look at the imaging of body, you're going to
Speaker 2: have inperfections all over. Nothing is exactly the same in everybody.
Speaker 2: And then it's going to cause you to go, oh
Speaker 2: my god, it's a tumor. Well, it's probably not a
Speaker 2: tumor exactly. It could lead you down a.
Speaker 9: Dark place, spend a lot of money for tests you
Speaker 9: don't need exactly, but there there is some valuable information.
Speaker 9: But it's also important to have someone that can help
Speaker 9: you interpret that to go forward, whether it be if
Speaker 9: you get this done. You know, I know some medspas
Speaker 9: offer it, but your primary care doctor can do it too,
Speaker 9: and so someone to help you interpret what it means
Speaker 9: so you can make the lifestyle changes you need.
Speaker 2: Perfect son Jay Shevacrimani. He's our expert on Scotsland. Shi
Speaker 2: the Fitness Guy. Fitness Doc at dine Well Doc is
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Speaker 2: he pops in every Thursday morning and talk about this stuff.
Speaker 1: Good.
Speaker 5: Good than man.
Speaker 3: Good to see you again, Graty, Thank you for popping in.
Speaker 3: Appreciate it.
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Speaker 2: got news on the way in just about four minutes
Speaker 2: and we're I turned the shit you know Peachins here
Speaker 2: from Epstein Justice dot com.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what the bad part, the awful part
Speaker 2: about partisan politics is now you've got to defend people
Speaker 2: on your team instead of finding out what the real
Speaker 2: truth is. We'll get into that coming up next on
Speaker 2: the show seven hundred WW Cincinnati.
Speaker 5: Don't want to.
Speaker 3: Scott Flow here seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: A couple of big stories going on of course, the
Speaker 2: government reopening, and you wonder the timing of that, along
Speaker 2: with the fact that the Democrats in the House Oversight
Speaker 2: Committee dumped a whole bunch of emails, including one from
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen which Jeffrey Epstein alleges that President Trump quote
Speaker 2: knew about the girls behind the scenes. You had a
Speaker 2: bunch of administration officials meeting with representatives they thought vulnerable.
Speaker 2: Do would agree Representative Lauren Bobert maybe not vulnerable. Those
Speaker 2: who want to play ball met with her about the
Speaker 2: effort to force a House vote.
Speaker 3: On the release. They tried to get her to pull
Speaker 3: her name. She refused.
Speaker 2: She's one of four Republicans, including Kentucky's Thomas Massey, to
Speaker 2: go against the party, which I think is interesting because
Speaker 2: we talked about transparency and let's release the records on
Speaker 2: the campaign trail, and then when your name is in there,
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, well maybe not so much. But
Speaker 2: on the other hand, you wonder how many Democrats are there,
Speaker 2: because that committee is going to be very selective about
Speaker 2: the records they release. Republicans dropped about twenty thousand on
Speaker 2: their own as well, and you wonder what names are
Speaker 2: in there. I'm in the camp of just release it
Speaker 2: all and let's figure it out. He's Pete chin Now,
Speaker 2: founder of epstein Justice dot Com. And I like it
Speaker 2: because they're a nonpartisan organization, grassroots, a bunch of folks
Speaker 2: who got together sick and tired of this and sickened
Speaker 2: by the fact that young women in particular are being
Speaker 2: victimized by the wealthy and powerful and connected, and it's
Speaker 2: been a conspiracy for a long time, and so it
Speaker 2: just wants to get the truth. I think you're with
Speaker 2: me on that peak. Just looking through your site quickly here.
Speaker 2: First of all, welcome. Secondly, I look at it and go,
Speaker 2: you know, just we'll release it all. And there's going
Speaker 2: to be Democrats, Republicans and a whole bunch of people
Speaker 2: who are caught up in this thing. But again, it
Speaker 2: gets to show you the protectionism that power affords.
Speaker 6: No question about it, Scott. And first of all, thanks
Speaker 6: of all, thanks for.
Speaker 8: Having me on.
Speaker 6: And second of all, you're right. This issue isn't going away.
Speaker 6: And the reason it's not going away is because the majority,
Speaker 6: and I mean a vast majority of the American people
Speaker 6: of both parties and those of no party all agree
Speaker 6: that transparency is the only thing that is going to
Speaker 6: sunlight is going to be the only disinfectant that can
Speaker 6: possibly erase this stain. What I call it is a
Speaker 6: stain on the Republic. We actually don't know, and this
Speaker 6: is the big problem, Scott. We don't actually know how
Speaker 6: far the corruption goes, how deep it went, who all
Speaker 6: was involved, who got paid, who was where did the
Speaker 6: money come from, and where did it all go. And
Speaker 6: at the end of the day, Scott, at the end
Speaker 6: of the day, what's most important to Epstein Justice and
Speaker 6: Epstein Justice dot Com is that these victims finally get
Speaker 6: some sense of justice. You know, this is the largest
Speaker 6: potentially child sex trafficking operation that's ever existed on US soil,
Speaker 6: and the only person that has.
Speaker 7: Faced any kind of punishment is Dwayne.
Speaker 6: Maxwell, and she's currently at the Pushift federal facility we have,
Speaker 6: having been transferred from one only slightly more onerous. So
Speaker 6: we've got a problem. In the United States. The vast
Speaker 6: majority of both parties and those of no party want proof,
Speaker 6: they want transparency, and they want these files released because
Speaker 6: irrespective of which party is involved, and let's face it,
Speaker 6: we both know that members of both parties are likely involved.
Speaker 6: Whoever is involved should have their name exposed and at
Speaker 6: a minimum subjected to public approbation. But perhaps there should
Speaker 6: be some legal consequences for some of these folks too,
Speaker 6: who facilitated the movement of money, who facilitated the movement
Speaker 6: of people. And at this point, only one person has
Speaker 6: faced any sort of consequences, And it is a national
Speaker 6: crisis in part because we don't actually know what Jeffrey
Speaker 6: Epstein's full motivations were. Was he sponsored by a government?
Speaker 6: How did he become to be a near billionaire himself,
Speaker 6: a guy who had parents that were middle class people
Speaker 6: in Queen's We don't know the answers to these questions,
Speaker 6: but the American people know one thing, Scott. There's something
Speaker 6: rotten here and it's not going to get dealt with
Speaker 6: by any other way than getting to all the facts.
Speaker 3: Well, this is this is an indictment.
Speaker 2: I think of our political parties that both are protecting
Speaker 2: their their own kind. And we'll get into that in
Speaker 2: a second, but let's get to these email releases here
Speaker 2: that just came out so democratical.
Speaker 3: These emails.
Speaker 2: Epstein wrote that Trump knew about the girls, and Trump
Speaker 2: asked Helene to stop and there's one in twenty eleven,
Speaker 2: and this is the cryptic one. And you've studied all
Speaker 2: of this documentation. There's a lot of six stuff in
Speaker 2: the Epstein files if you look under the hood, and
Speaker 2: it's it's horrible. But wrote at one time, I want
Speaker 2: you to realize that the dog in that the I
Speaker 2: want you to realize that the dog has embarked in
Speaker 2: Trump and he's hours at my house with him. He's
Speaker 2: never once been mentioned. You hear those communications. What's your
Speaker 2: analysis and what does that mean about the dog?
Speaker 6: I think all of that means is that President Trump
Speaker 6: had knowledge that Jeffrey Epstein liked underage girls. But you
Speaker 6: know what, that shouldn't really be any sort of mystery.
Speaker 6: He disclosed in a New Yorker article in two thousand
Speaker 6: and two that Jeffrey Epstein's a lot of fun. He
Speaker 6: likes girls.
Speaker 5: Some say he likes.
Speaker 6: Beautiful women as much as I do, some even on
Speaker 6: the younger side. Now, President Trump ran the miss Kean
Speaker 6: US faith aagint, so for him to say that Jeffrey
Speaker 6: Epstein likes women on the younger side or girls on
Speaker 6: the younger side, that tells you that he had knowledge.
Speaker 6: But then again, almost all of the elites in public
Speaker 6: life had knowledge that Jeffrey Epstein was a child sex trafficker.
Speaker 6: This was one of the most open secrets in American society,
Speaker 6: and people as high as Bill Clinton listen. This spans,
Speaker 6: This corruption spans the administrations going all the way back
Speaker 6: to George W. Bush and encompass encompasses all of them,
Speaker 6: both Democrat and Republican, across that time period. It was
Speaker 6: the George W. Bush administration that allowed Jeffrey Epstein to
Speaker 6: receive a sweetheart deal instead of getting buried under the
Speaker 6: prison for the clear evidence that they had of child
Speaker 6: sex trafficking. They had dozens of affidavits against him, did
Speaker 6: the Palm City police. No one was more frustrated by
Speaker 6: the outcome of that case than the police, who corrupt
Speaker 6: plected all of the evidence against him, which was and
Speaker 6: still remains substantial. So questions that remain about how that
Speaker 6: happened in two thousand and five under the George W.
Speaker 6: Bush administration haven't been answered, much less why the whole
Speaker 6: situation was ignored under two terms of Obama, a term
Speaker 6: of Biden, and of course President Trump's first term as well.
Speaker 6: When Jeffrey Trump was re arrested. Why would Jeffrey Trump
Speaker 6: re arrest it? We still literally don't have a good
Speaker 6: insight into that.
Speaker 2: There were questions and answers, largely because, well, you know,
Speaker 2: we have those no Kings protests and are you followed
Speaker 2: any of that stuff? I'll laugh, because you know, it's
Speaker 2: a lot of the same things that they're protesting against
Speaker 2: their own party does and general that's Democrats. But I
Speaker 2: think people don't realize that this is a different class
Speaker 2: of people entirely. Not necessarily the deep state stuff because
Speaker 2: that goes with the territory, but the fact that the rich,
Speaker 2: the elite, the powerful are connected and they swim in
Speaker 2: the same fish.
Speaker 3: Take. You think it's about politics, it's not. It's about
Speaker 3: us and them.
Speaker 2: And I think most Americans want to see all these
Speaker 2: documents released now. The twenty thousand released by the Republicans
Speaker 2: a huge document dump. The same day Democrats release these
Speaker 2: three emails.
Speaker 3: What's in that? Have you looked through it?
Speaker 6: I certainly haven't had time to four through twenty thousand
Speaker 6: pages the email, But what I have done is I've
Speaker 6: reviewed some of the coverage of it, and the reality
Speaker 6: is that this is this document dump without any real investigation.
Speaker 6: Just here's raw files.
Speaker 8: Here they are.
Speaker 6: This is why we at Epstein Justice. We're not calling
Speaker 6: for simply a release of the files. We're calling for
Speaker 6: a non partisan congressional investigation that would involve members of
Speaker 6: both parties acting in good faith to expose this and
Speaker 6: in reality, creating such a commission only requires a simple
Speaker 6: majority of both parties, but it requires a good faith
Speaker 6: willingness on the members of Congress to hold the executive
Speaker 6: branch to account. Look, this has covered both administrations, so
Speaker 6: or rather both parties over multiple administrations. So this really
Speaker 6: is a non partisan issue, which is why we are
Speaker 6: a non partisan organization. If you wanted to put some
Speaker 6: kind of label on it, it's like you said, it's
Speaker 6: us in them. If you wanted to get fancy, you
Speaker 6: could call it a class issue, because it really is.
Speaker 6: It's the wealthy people. I mean, we can't live in
Speaker 6: a country scott where billionaires can take our daughters and
Speaker 6: rape them with impunity and face no consequences. That's what
Speaker 6: we're talking about, and that's why we have to fight
Speaker 6: as Americans, and we urge every American to call their
Speaker 6: member of Congress, both in the Senate and in the
Speaker 6: House and say, hey, we demand you members of Congress
Speaker 6: do your jobs, form a commission and investigate this on
Speaker 6: a nonpartisan basis, so all the facts can come to life,
Speaker 6: and those who need to be held accountable can finally
Speaker 6: be held accountable. So Scott, we can finally get some
Speaker 6: sense of justice for the dozens, perhaps hundreds. In fact,
Speaker 6: the Department of Justice says over a thousand victims of
Speaker 6: Jeffrey Epstein's criminal child sex trafficking network.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, here's here's the thing with and this
Speaker 2: says a lot to me and base and of course
Speaker 2: the politics of it behind the scenes, but even more
Speaker 2: so than that, I look at it and go, okay, well,
Speaker 2: Trump says, hey, there's nothing here, don't worry about It's
Speaker 2: a nothing burger, no big deal. On the trail, he's
Speaker 2: gonna we're gonna work, going to dump all this stuff.
Speaker 2: And of course back those backed up from that position.
Speaker 2: But you look at maxwell statement about Trump and she
Speaker 2: said I never saw him in any appropriate setting. You
Speaker 2: saw what Jeffria said before she took her own life,
Speaker 2: and say, you know, Trump is it's fine.
Speaker 3: If that's the case, then you think you'd have nothing
Speaker 3: to hide.
Speaker 6: Then well, and that's that's part of the irony, isn't
Speaker 6: It's got that if you ask the executive branch. And
Speaker 6: by the way, my last job in the Air Force
Speaker 6: was I was a liaison from the executive branch to
Speaker 6: the congressional branch. Which is why I can tell you
Speaker 6: with some authority that the executive branch's official position on
Speaker 6: everything is don't tell Congress anything. And so this is
Speaker 6: why Congress has to force the executive branch really to
Speaker 6: disclose much of anything, because it's the executive branch's view.
Speaker 6: And this is again across administrations, it's not exclusive to
Speaker 6: the Trump administration. But the executive branch's view is that, hey,
Speaker 6: we need this information to be We don't want to
Speaker 6: disclose anything that might embarrass the government, that might embarrass
Speaker 6: any powerful officials. We don't want to dispose anything that
Speaker 6: might harm national security, whatever that means, and so and
Speaker 6: so it's the executive branch's role to keep secrets. Well,
Speaker 6: it's the Congress's role. It's the congressional branch's role to
Speaker 6: get the executive branch to disclose those secrets. And that's
Speaker 6: and it's as simple as that.
Speaker 7: In our system.
Speaker 6: But the issue though is that in order to get
Speaker 6: Congress to do their job, especially these days, you have
Speaker 6: to have a mass movement, a real mass movement, not
Speaker 6: one that's AstroTurf with fake money. And by the way,
Speaker 6: we don't have any money. This is all a grassroots effort.
Speaker 6: We're all volunteers. None of us are getting paid, you
Speaker 6: can believe that. And so and so we're trying to
Speaker 6: urge every American to say, look, this just isn't tolerable.
Speaker 6: We need the facts in this case. And I believe
Speaker 6: that if every American comes together and frankly, the show
Speaker 6: that as many as eighty percent of all Americans and
Speaker 6: this cuts across party lines, think that the Epstein file
Speaker 6: should be fully related and that this matter should be
Speaker 6: fully investigat.
Speaker 3: No question.
Speaker 2: Is with Epstein Justice dot Com. He's a found we're
Speaker 2: talking about this, this document done. But that's the problem, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, there are so many people, not not all,
Speaker 2: but so many people on Trump's side that are just
Speaker 2: silent about this whole thing, and of course Speaker Johnson
Speaker 2: trying his best to subvert this whole process. It shows you,
Speaker 2: as you just described, the partisanship in Washington that's killing us.
Speaker 2: If you can't get justice for underage girls of victims
Speaker 2: of pedophilia.
Speaker 3: Let's call it what it is.
Speaker 2: Then you start to lose hope here because it's so
Speaker 2: partisan and so divided. We'll protect our own at all costs,
Speaker 2: and you look at the effect we had with this
Speaker 2: government shutdown. Congress has one job. Their job is to
Speaker 2: pass a budget. I have only done it twice in
Speaker 2: my lifetime.
Speaker 3: We allow that to.
Speaker 2: Occur as voters, as taxpayers, as citizens. The fact that
Speaker 2: we have completely given the authority to the executive branch
Speaker 2: and taken away Congress is factless.
Speaker 3: They don't do anything.
Speaker 2: Everything is done, and it was on Biden and it's
Speaker 2: also on Trump relative to executive order. And so if
Speaker 2: you just have executive orders coming out, you don't really
Speaker 2: don't need Congress.
Speaker 3: And that's the problem.
Speaker 2: They don't want to do their job basically and oversee
Speaker 2: the executive branch when their person's in power.
Speaker 6: I agree with you, and that's become a huge problem.
Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, I still am
Speaker 6: a believer in the American system. I fought for this country.
Speaker 6: I served in uniform for thirty six years. I'm a
Speaker 6: combat veteran, and I believe in our constitution. That's what
Speaker 6: I swore an oath too, That's what I fought for,
Speaker 6: and I still believe in that document, and I still
Speaker 6: believe that in America, the average citizen, banded together with
Speaker 6: his fellow American citizens, can have an impact and make
Speaker 6: our Congress do what we want them to do. Because ultimately,
Speaker 6: you're right, Scott, if we don't have a Congress that
Speaker 6: is willing to act in accord with the overwhelming will
Speaker 6: of the American people than what we have as an
Speaker 6: authoritarian say, and nobody wants to live in a country
Speaker 6: that's not a democracy. We are America. We get things
Speaker 6: done because we've been together as people and we decide
Speaker 6: that we're going to do what's right. We've done it
Speaker 6: for two hundred and fifty years, and we're going to
Speaker 6: do it in this case. I believe that, and I'm
Speaker 6: gonna I'm gonna let I mean, I know that's an
Speaker 6: upbeat and optimistic note story this dark, but you know,
Speaker 6: I wouldn't be doing this, Scott, if I didn't believe
Speaker 6: it was possible. You know, great changes in America take
Speaker 6: great effort, and they take a long time, and oftentimes
Speaker 6: they take money which is something we don't have. You know,
Speaker 6: my co founder doesn't like to talk about raising money,
Speaker 6: but I have to tell you billionaires aren't taking our
Speaker 6: fall Scott, and they're not interested in this. They're interested
Speaker 6: in covering this up. So if anybody would like to
Speaker 6: go to Epsteinjustice dot com and make a donation, we
Speaker 6: would certainly welcome that to help continue these efforts in
Speaker 6: this work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, God bless it's a grassroots effort. Any money
Speaker 2: off this and I just just get the truth out.
Speaker 2: I think I speak for a lot of people going,
Speaker 2: let's find out what's in there, who's in there, and
Speaker 2: we'll make our own minds up and let justice take course.
Speaker 2: But this is not justice, not at all. Peach In
Speaker 2: at Epstein Justice dot com. Thanks for the input I
Speaker 2: appreciated got.
Speaker 6: Thanks for having me. I look forward to talking to
Speaker 6: you again sometimes.
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, I thought it was excellent, was really really good.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: A lot more questions and answers right now, And the
Speaker 2: politics behind the scene is icky. You know, I don't
Speaker 2: know quite honestly. I for those people who believe in
Speaker 2: God and family and country, those thing three things are
Speaker 2: coming together right now. I don't understand As someone who
Speaker 2: votes generally Republican, I tend to be more independent and
Speaker 2: make my own mind up and more to libertarian. But
Speaker 2: not many libertarian candidates on the ballot. But even there's
Speaker 2: problems with libertarian candidates. What about just doing the right
Speaker 2: thing and putting kids over politics. And yet there's a
Speaker 2: lot of people in our government and a lot of
Speaker 2: enablers that will look the other waiter in this end
Speaker 2: there's nothing there. Because while I was told there's nothing there,
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Speaker 5: Well? Hello, the sun is shining. The UH shutdown is over?
Speaker 3: Did you see the northern light last night.
Speaker 5: No, I was sleeping.
Speaker 2: It's on the story the other morning. It's like you
Speaker 2: looking out the window, going, I don't see the northern lights.
Speaker 2: You know it's because you're what.
Speaker 7: You know what?
Speaker 5: It wasn't looking No, I wasn't looking south.
Speaker 8: You know what?
Speaker 5: It is not south out that window. It's still in
Speaker 5: the northerly either north or south.
Speaker 2: There's no near near north. It's almost north. It's almost north,
Speaker 2: halfway between north and south of the east or west. Yeah, anyway, anyway,
Speaker 2: it's fine. We didn't see it in person because a
Speaker 2: I was sleeping. You're next bucket list because Australia was
Speaker 2: a bucket list.
Speaker 3: Do you want to see the northern line?
Speaker 6: I know you.
Speaker 5: I do want to see the northern lights. But you
Speaker 5: know what, here's the thing. I feel like that might
Speaker 5: be falling down on my list of things that I
Speaker 5: would like to do.
Speaker 3: All right, what's next?
Speaker 5: Because you know what when you usually when you see
Speaker 5: the northern lights, Yeah, you have to be somewhere where
Speaker 5: it's really cold, It's true, and yeah, oh you're not.
Speaker 3: You don't have to be outside to see the northern lights.
Speaker 3: You could be inside.
Speaker 5: Maybe I would, you know, if I could be in
Speaker 5: one of those little domes.
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I think they have those.
Speaker 5: There's never any guarantee that you're going to see the
Speaker 5: darn things. I've heard horror stories people spending thousands of
Speaker 5: dollars to go see the northern lights and then they
Speaker 5: don't happen. I don't know, I'm I I think that
Speaker 5: that might be falling off the list.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, fair enough. I don't know. You can
Speaker 3: do the cheap version of this.
Speaker 2: Go to Cleveland and just close your eyes and rub
Speaker 2: your thumbs really hard in your eyelids when they're closed,
Speaker 2: Look northern lights. Okay, let's look towards Canada. The north side. No,
Speaker 2: that's that's south. The other the other window, the other window.
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, fine, same thing. Just fine, close your eyes.
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about I imagine the topic today
Speaker 2: is going to be the fifty year mortgage.
Speaker 3: I can feel you, I could sense you champions to
Speaker 3: talk about this.
Speaker 5: It is because it is. I don't want to say
Speaker 5: that it's the dumbest thing that I've ever heard.
Speaker 2: No, don't ever say that. God, don't say that, because
Speaker 2: somebody's going to go hold my beer. We had a
Speaker 2: guy in Pennsylvan who was cleaning his shotgun loaded and
Speaker 2: his dog jumped on the bed and shot him. Oh,
Speaker 2: so don't say it's the dumbest thing you've heard today,
Speaker 2: because that would be the dumbest thing you've heard today.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah the dog.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're going to smell he kill him? Did he
Speaker 5: kill us? I don't know the whole story there, but
Speaker 5: the guy got shot, so oh yeah, I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that's that's pretty dumb anyway. So this idea was floated
Speaker 5: by our president and the administration showing the comparison of
Speaker 5: the thirty year mortgage with Franklin Delano Roosevelt and a
Speaker 5: proposed fifty year mortgage a lah Trump. I guess. So
Speaker 5: the fh FA, the Federal Housing Finance Agency, and the
Speaker 5: director he said, you know what, we are working on
Speaker 5: a fifty year mortgage, and it's a complete game changer.
Speaker 7: Is it?
Speaker 3: Okay, you want to go back to two thousand and eight, Well,
Speaker 3: that's the thing.
Speaker 5: So the aim and the thought process, and if you
Speaker 5: dig into it a little bit deeper from someone that
Speaker 5: is our age fifty year mortgage, we will not see
Speaker 5: the end of that fifty year mortgage. If we try
Speaker 5: to live to the end of the fifty year mortgage,
Speaker 5: we're basically passing on debt to our children or whoever
Speaker 5: ends up selling the property that we own with a
Speaker 5: fifty year mortgage on it. So, you know, just if
Speaker 5: you're thinking long term, thirty years is a long time.
Speaker 5: Even depends on how much you like your kids. I guess, well,
Speaker 5: I suppose if you want to leave them with a
Speaker 5: whole budge of debt, that's fine. But the purpose of
Speaker 5: this thought process of the fifty year mortgage. The aim
Speaker 5: is to relieve monthly payments, so having payments be less
Speaker 5: and improve access to home ownership. But here's the thing.
Speaker 5: We have a low supply of homes. So that's not
Speaker 5: going to change mad because the supply and demand issue
Speaker 5: is not going to change magically because we have a
Speaker 5: fifty year mortgage. And if whose bright idea is going
Speaker 5: from the average right now is a thirty year mortgage
Speaker 5: and jump all the way to fifty that's like going
Speaker 5: you know, to eleventy billion. I mean, it just seems
Speaker 5: so far away.
Speaker 3: If it's forty your mortgages, we were like, okay, fifteen
Speaker 3: to thirty year right.
Speaker 5: And there have been talk of forty year mortgages, but
Speaker 5: I've never seen anybody use one, and I don't know
Speaker 5: how many products are available in the lending world that
Speaker 5: offer forty year mortgages. You know, here's the thing, you're
Speaker 5: going to pay more. Everybody complains about, you know, the
Speaker 5: cost of interest rates. Mortgage interest rates are high. Guess
Speaker 5: what with the fifty year mortgage, your interest rate is
Speaker 5: going to be higher than it would be with a
Speaker 5: thirty year mortgage.
Speaker 6: Why is it?
Speaker 5: Well, because you know what it's it's more of a
Speaker 5: risk for the lender. You know, it's all about risk.
Speaker 5: It's a higher risk for the lender. A fifty year
Speaker 5: mortgage means the lender has their money tied up for
Speaker 5: fifty years, So there's more risk for the lender. The
Speaker 5: lender is not going to take any risk, Are you kidding?
Speaker 5: And then think about it. So usually when you're in
Speaker 5: a thirty year mortgage, the first couple of years, not
Speaker 5: couple even the first ten years, you're paying mostly interest.
Speaker 5: You're not really paying down the debt, got it. And
Speaker 5: so if you think about a fifty year mortgage, just
Speaker 5: double it the first twenty years. Maybe you're not even
Speaker 5: paying down any debt. So why don't you think about Okay,
Speaker 5: I just thought about this in my brains while we
Speaker 5: were talking, So this should be really good real you know,
Speaker 5: why not just do an interest only loan because you're
Speaker 5: not building any equity with that, and those products are available.
Speaker 5: An interest only loan, you pay less and you never
Speaker 5: ever basically as you either have to sell the property
Speaker 5: or you have to get a different product to get
Speaker 5: another loan, but you never pay down the debt. So
Speaker 5: if you take it two hundred thousand dollars loan and
Speaker 5: you only and you're an interest only loan, you just
Speaker 5: pay the interest on that loan, you're never.
Speaker 3: Paying back the isn't that just rent?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 5: But you still own the property?
Speaker 3: No you don't. The bank owns the property.
Speaker 5: Well okay, all right, well technically you are right you're
Speaker 5: paying rent. No, you're right, absolutely.
Speaker 2: Well what's the advantage of buying a house if you're
Speaker 2: just paying the interest? I it's amazing that they can
Speaker 2: get away with this kind of stuff.
Speaker 5: Well, and I don't know that they will, you know,
Speaker 5: I don't know that this is actually going to become
Speaker 5: a sing when you look at it. So how much
Speaker 5: are you going to save? Right, that's the big question.
Speaker 5: So the thought process is younger buyers can't afford a mortgage,
Speaker 5: so let's get them into a fifty year mortgage. If
Speaker 5: you're twenty five years old, you know you'll be seventy five.
Speaker 5: You're not going to pay it off. And here's the thing,
Speaker 5: how long do you stay in your home? I always
Speaker 5: tell people, even with a regular thirty year mortgage or
Speaker 5: a fifteen or whatever, when you're buying a home, your
Speaker 5: best bet is to stay in that home at least
Speaker 5: five years so that you can build some equity.
Speaker 3: Got it.
Speaker 5: Here's the thing. Fifty year mortgage, You're never going to
Speaker 5: build equity. You are passing deck to future generations. You're
Speaker 5: never going to get ahead. You're always going to be
Speaker 5: chasing your tail. And that's the one thing that makes
Speaker 5: me absolutely crazy that anybody in an administrative with a brain. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and I know that everybody, everybody in my industry is
Speaker 5: just going absolutely berserk. It's a great talking point. And
Speaker 5: the savings isn't that much.
Speaker 2: It's like, so I saw someone do the maths on this, Michelle,
Speaker 2: and I think like a half million dollar loan. It
Speaker 2: was I think it was basically two hundred dollars less
Speaker 2: a month, I mean two hundreds, I mean fifty bucks
Speaker 2: a week. You look at well, you know you're paying,
Speaker 2: but you're just paying the bank. It's like having a
Speaker 2: credit card never paying the balance off.
Speaker 5: Correct. Absolutely, it is that you're constantly chasing your tail.
Speaker 5: So if you have a thirty year mortgage at six
Speaker 5: point twenty five percent, your monthly payment is going to be.
Speaker 5: This is for a four hundred thousand dollars home. So
Speaker 5: just try to do some easy math. So a four
Speaker 5: hundred thousand dollars loan, which is pretty typical, maybe a
Speaker 5: little high for our area, but anyway, so thirty years,
Speaker 5: six and a quarter monthly payment is about twenty four
Speaker 5: hundred dollars. Over thirty years, you end up paying about
Speaker 5: eight hundred and eighty seven thousand. So you're doubling what
Speaker 5: because if you make every payment, if you include all
Speaker 5: the interest on a four hundred thousand dollars loan, you're
Speaker 5: paying four hundred and eighty seven thousand dollars in interest,
Speaker 5: all right, And you're thinking about this, it's like, Wow,
Speaker 5: that four hundred thousand dollars home is really worth eight
Speaker 5: hundred thousand dollars at least, it's what you're putting into
Speaker 5: it now. If you do a fifty year mortgage, and
Speaker 5: the estimate would be about six point eight percent, so
Speaker 5: about a half a percent higher. Your monthly payments are
Speaker 5: twenty two hundred, so that saves you two hundred dollars
Speaker 5: a month. Okay, spread out over six hundred months, you're
Speaker 5: paying one point three three zero over a million dollars
Speaker 5: one point three million dollars for a loan for a
Speaker 5: four hundred thousand dollars house.
Speaker 2: The other side of this, too is a lot of
Speaker 2: people will tap into home equity in order to fix
Speaker 2: it up, because houses, while they break the fixed stuff,
Speaker 2: where you going to.
Speaker 3: Tap into that money in the future, Well, there won't be.
Speaker 5: You won't.
Speaker 2: You won't have the money. It's kind of like we saw,
Speaker 2: you know, like the subprime auto market. For example, right
Speaker 2: car everything's going up with inflesh and so car prices
Speaker 2: go up, so order dealers just tack on extra months
Speaker 2: to the loan for if you're less credit worthy, will
Speaker 2: just stretch it over five, six, eight years or whatever
Speaker 2: it is. And so just like the housing crisis in
Speaker 2: a eight or with kind of cars a little less
Speaker 2: than a home because of property values and such. But
Speaker 2: nonetheless does go okay, well I repossess it or I'll
Speaker 2: turn my keys in and the lenders wind up getting
Speaker 2: big losses as well. And if you trade your car
Speaker 2: and you can't afford a new one because you know
Speaker 2: more than your car's worth, how's that different than we
Speaker 2: did in O eight?
Speaker 3: Isn't that setting this up for that?
Speaker 5: I believe, in my opinion, in my humble opinion, it's
Speaker 5: setting up future generations to fail. And you know, there
Speaker 5: are already future generations, our kids, our kids' kids, they're
Speaker 5: already at a disadvantage to a certain extent financially because
Speaker 5: the price of you know, the price of entry is
Speaker 5: so high. This is this is not the answer. A
Speaker 5: fifty year mortgage is not the answer. Now, some people,
Speaker 5: you know, you may hear people in my industry even saying, oh,
Speaker 5: well you can just refinance. Yeah, that's more money in
Speaker 5: the pockets of lenders.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 5: Every time you refinance, you got to pay closing costs.
Speaker 5: Most of the time. Again, there are some lenders who
Speaker 5: will waive that if you do it within a certain
Speaker 5: period of time, or some lenders will you know, they'll
Speaker 5: offer some incentives or lower but no matter what, you're
Speaker 5: not if you get a refin aanswer, you're gonna get
Speaker 5: a new loan on a property. At any point you're
Speaker 5: gonna pay. You're gonna pay extra, and that extra will
Speaker 5: add up to months worth of monthly payments. So you're
Speaker 5: saving two hundred dollars a month, But yet you're not
Speaker 5: building equity. You're not building wealth. And that's the one
Speaker 5: thing that I've always been able to say is when
Speaker 5: you buy, it's the greatest investment of your life, when
Speaker 5: you buy property.
Speaker 2: It feels like Michelle, that this is going to be
Speaker 2: one of those almost like the payday lenders and to
Speaker 2: get a bad report, and people need payday lenders. I'm
Speaker 2: not knocking it. I get what it is, but you know,
Speaker 2: rent to own schemes and stuff like that as wells.
Speaker 2: People are just gonna look at the monthly cost, go hey,
Speaker 2: I'm saving two hundred dollars a month, sign me up,
Speaker 2: and then they'll get hamstring with this loan and then
Speaker 2: later complain about it. So I think this might be
Speaker 2: predatory in a way, And I hate using that term
Speaker 2: because it's so thrown around these days as well. I
Speaker 2: mean all loans feel I mean college loans feel predatory
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 7: So what do I know.
Speaker 2: But in that case, you're gonna I think you're gonna
Speaker 2: have that. People going, wow, you know, I just want
Speaker 2: to have a safe place for as crime continues in
Speaker 2: urban areas, for example, people going, look, if I can
Speaker 2: get this for two hundred less a month, I don't
Speaker 2: care that it's a fifty year loan. I just want out, sure,
Speaker 2: But you wonder if that sets them up for success
Speaker 2: or failure.
Speaker 5: Well, the one thing is, and I'm glad we're talking
Speaker 5: about it because when we were getting those predatory loans
Speaker 5: twenty years ago, when I first gotten to the business,
Speaker 5: and when I was trying to figure out how in
Speaker 5: the world are buyers getting money back when they buy
Speaker 5: a home, because there was they didn't have to have
Speaker 5: a down payment, they didn't have to have there was.
Speaker 5: It was a setup to failed situation. Now, and you're right,
Speaker 5: it's it's like buying a car. You know, they're not
Speaker 5: going to tell you the big numbers because those are scary. Yeah,
Speaker 5: this is a car for forty thousand dollars or whatever.
Speaker 5: How much can you afford to pay? Per month, and
Speaker 5: then they're going to put you in a product that
Speaker 5: will get you to that number, But then they won't
Speaker 5: tell you all of you know, you'll have to really
Speaker 5: ask some hard questions as to what does that mean?
Speaker 5: You know, Okay, you got me to my number. I
Speaker 5: can afford it today, But what happens if I lose
Speaker 5: my job? What happens? Do I have any equity if
Speaker 5: I need to go and resell and sell my property? No,
Speaker 5: you're not going to if if hope fully that home
Speaker 5: has gone up in value, if you've been and there's
Speaker 5: a lot of ifs, if you've been in that home
Speaker 5: long enough, if you, like I said, it's to me,
Speaker 5: it is a setup for failure. And guess what, people
Speaker 5: are going to stay in their homes longer. There's not
Speaker 5: going to be the turnover that we need for younger generations.
Speaker 5: So right now, everybody's stuck in that home with a
Speaker 5: three percent mortgage that we got whatever five ten years ago,
Speaker 5: and nobody wants to get rid of that three three
Speaker 5: percent mortgage. So they're holding onto their home and they
Speaker 5: don't want to buy something for seven percent mortgage. So
Speaker 5: what is this going to do. It's going to paralyze
Speaker 5: our country. I'm sorry, I'm going to get a little
Speaker 5: fired up about this.
Speaker 3: I think I love it. I like feisty Michelle.
Speaker 2: That's the that's my girl right there, smart cookie, my wife,
Speaker 2: Michelle Sloan with Remax Time and Sloan Cells homes dot
Speaker 2: Com Open House Show. That's on the iHeartRadio app there
Speaker 2: or Apple wherever you get your podcast, and of course
Speaker 2: uh on YouTube as well too. So thanks again, love
Speaker 2: your good stuff. Let's not do a fifty year mortgage
Speaker 2: unless our kids really piss us off, and then we're.
Speaker 3: Gonna do it.
Speaker 5: We're gonna do like three of them.
Speaker 3: You can one hundred year.
Speaker 2: Mortgage come with its generation, all right, don't upset mom?
Speaker 6: All right?
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