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Speaker 3: Welcome in to another Friday edition of Cincy three to sixty.

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Speaker 3: If you're not familiar with this show, or in particular

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Speaker 3: Friday shows, we like to have some fun. We'd like

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Speaker 3: to do things a little bit differently, and really Austin

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Speaker 3: just celebrated another week in the books, another week down,

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Speaker 3: a big weekend from a college basketball point of view. Ahead,

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Speaker 3: a lot going on, and a lot going on on

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Speaker 3: this show today. Bob man Jean from University of Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: and Novacare will join us in hour number three, along

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Speaker 3: with our normal check in with Moager ahead of the

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Speaker 3: Moagar Show. Charlie Goldsmith. At one o'clock, we will look

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Speaker 3: at the college basketball weekend ahead, make a couple of

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Speaker 3: picks with that, and of course talkbacks and all along

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Speaker 3: the way. Today, your phone calls five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty happy, Happy to have you along before we

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Speaker 4: How you doing today? I'm pretty good. You're good.

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Speaker 5: I'm so far so good. I'm sure everybody is tuning

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Speaker 5: in for an update on my car. Yes, happened. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: so last night, you know, I called somebody I know

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Speaker 5: I said, okay, great, And so when I left here

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Speaker 5: last night around six o'clock, I started the car. No issues,

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Speaker 4: They did it.

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Speaker 5: There were no issues while I was there. There were

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Speaker 5: Let's hope that it was just the low battery and

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Speaker 5: think altogether, I'm out, you know, two hundred bucks or

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Speaker 5: So I can live with that, all right, Not ideal,

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Speaker 3: Did we do enough to leave the water drip. It's

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Speaker 5: And I generally don't feel that way, but sometimes it's like, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 4: It's part of life. Life get good. It's just part

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Speaker 3: Some some good sporting events happening across the sports world.

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Speaker 3: The game last night between the Mavericks and the Charlotte Hornets.

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Speaker 3: Con Cannipple, you know he played at Duke last year.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of a show, the Australian Open is happening now.

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Speaker 3: This happens overnight Austin. So there are are sure people

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Speaker 5: afternoon sports talk. I invite everybody to listen, and maybe

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Speaker 3: That to me was also like the moment of like, man,

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Speaker 4: Of years of NBC. Aren't they now tying in with

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Speaker 5: They are part of the new Major League Baseball television contract.

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Speaker 5: what happens. Come on, Joey, Dumbo Aragato, mister Joe Vato.

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Speaker 5: I think Vado will kill it. Oh, he'll be so

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Speaker 3: He went on to dominate with the Cleveland Gladiators in

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Speaker 3: the Arena League for quite some time and has recently

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Speaker 4: Champion in the three on three.

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Speaker 5: No kidding, yep, all right, every year that guy answers

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Speaker 5: By the way, Ian Rappaport reporting that Broncos defensive pass

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Speaker 5: Jim Leonard in the AFC North, but he is interviewing

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Speaker 3: That that part would make me nervous, like because to me,

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Speaker 3: jesse mentors the wild card here. You know how I

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Speaker 3: including some action that gets underway tonight. The Senior Bowl

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Speaker 3: We'll also get ready to take your phone calls. Five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 7: Now, four years ago, he was a senior in high

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Speaker 5: Now the Bengals Super Bowl chants is rest on his

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Speaker 8: The kicks up yet.

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Speaker 4: Good coffin nows bam, bam bam. It is unbo believable.

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Speaker 4: The Cincinnati Bengals come from behind on the road. Unbelievable, Dan,

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Speaker 4: it is no fluke. It is a fact.

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Speaker 9: The Cincinnati Bengals are headed to Super Bowl fifty six.

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Speaker 9: If they just redefined the word resilient, I mean, resilient

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Speaker 9: doesn't really do justice. The coaches are right next to us,

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Speaker 9: about an explosion of guys that are just sheer, unadulterated joy.

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Speaker 9: I mean, that is unbelievable, unbelievable that the Cincinnati Bengals

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Speaker 4: Amazing man.

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Speaker 5: Two years after having the number one pick in the

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Speaker 4: Gosh, Man, four years seems like a lifetime ago.

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Speaker 5: Four years ago today, Evan McPherson sent the Bengals to

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl fifty six. Incredible. There was a lot of

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Speaker 4: You ain't kidding.

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Speaker 5: I watched the video again, mist man, And for the

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna. I mean, I'm not gonna. I'm not

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Speaker 5: I cried today when I watched it, Like, I had

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's like I.

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Speaker 3: Think, as as we become more and more removed from it,

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Speaker 4: It is to get back to it.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, because in that moment when that season ended, I

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Speaker 4: They'll be good.

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Speaker 5: Nothing could hurt you, you know, is there going of

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Speaker 3: Here that lead up to the super Bowl. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 3: Was almost so busy that you don't even get to

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Speaker 5: Yeah, when you look back on it, I remember like

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Speaker 5: It's just it's and it's hard to stomach that you're

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 5: I also, you know, I've been kind of waffling back

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Speaker 5: that was just it was tough. It was tough to

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Speaker 3: So the question I had today I'm watching I was

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry to hear that.

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Speaker 3: got me wondering, why isn't Joe Burrow's name in that

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Speaker 4: Like because he got to one I think would be

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Speaker 3: Because the conversation is who is under the most pressure

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Speaker 3: think of the quarterbacks out there, Stafford he got his,

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Speaker 3: Quarterbacks you think of, like man, okay, they got over

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Speaker 3: that list. Joe has had phenomenal, phenomenal individual seasons and

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Speaker 3: more total touch downs than twelve different franchises over that time.

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Speaker 4: That's how good Josh Allen has been. MVP.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of pressure to win a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: But I think when those conversations are had, those are

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Speaker 3: Allen's got an MVP, Lamar's got multiple MVPs. They both

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Speaker 3: they paid Jamar Chase, they paid t Higgins, hopefully they

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think that that conversation could shift over

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Speaker 4: You better make it work.

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Speaker 3: I I think it's fascinating because again, I get why

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Speaker 3: there's certainly pressure in Buffalo because they just moved on

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Speaker 3: The Bengals paid Jamar Chase and t Higgins all that

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Speaker 3: But there is this conversation that goes around and maybe again, maybe,

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Speaker 3: like Austin said, maybe this change is in the offseason.

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Speaker 3: But if if the narrative is well, there's pressure on

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Speaker 3: Lamar and there's pressure on Josh, then there's pressure on

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Speaker 3: Joe too, and the continuity adds that pressure.

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Speaker 6: And I get it.

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Speaker 3: He's been to the Super Bowl, came up just short.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't mean that that excludes you from having pressure

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Speaker 3: to go win one.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 5: Who else in the AFC would be under that type

447
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Speaker 5: of pressure?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: You mentioned Herbert and the changes that he's going through.

450
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Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes has been to the mountaintop. You talk about, Okay,

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Speaker 3: Liam Cohen, Trevor Lawrence. That might be an interesting conversation,

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Speaker 3: but I don't think there's a pressure going into twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty six that oh Man, Trevor Lawrence better win his

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl. Here I think there's three teams.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I do think the CJ.

456
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Speaker 5: Stroud conversation is interesting because they're in that range of

457
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Speaker 5: having to extend him, and the way he's performed in

458
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Speaker 5: the playoffs, you got a lot of serious doubts. I

459
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Speaker 5: do think there's a pretty there's probably gonna be a

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Speaker 5: lot more pressure on the Chargers this year.

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Speaker 3: M I mean, but is it the pressure of Herbert's

462
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Speaker 3: gotta win one or is it more on the Chargers

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Speaker 3: as a whole.

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Speaker 4: I think yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think the difference is it would be I think

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Speaker 5: people wanted to see can justin Herbert go win you

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Speaker 5: a playoff game?

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Speaker 3: Whereas Alan and Lamar and Joe it's can they win

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Speaker 3: a super Bowl?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: And to tie it into the way we started this

472
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Speaker 3: segment four years ago, you could have pulled one hundred

473
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Speaker 3: people and one hundre would probably say they're going to

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Speaker 3: be back. They'll be in the super Bowl the next

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Speaker 3: five years. Look at this, look at the core, and

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Speaker 3: now it feels again three straight years of missing the playoffs.

477
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Speaker 3: It feels further away than it ever has. The super

478
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Speaker 3: Bowl window that we so often talk about is slipping

479
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Speaker 3: further and further away from Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 4: So again I get it.

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Speaker 3: I get because the jobs are filled in Buffalo, and

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Speaker 3: the job is filled in Baltimore, and there's not that

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Speaker 3: overturn in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: But Joe Burrow should be on that list.

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Speaker 5: I also will say to maybe try to figure out

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Speaker 5: a little bit of that list. Those two dudes have

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Speaker 5: been in the NFL a couple of years longer than Burrow,

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Speaker 5: and you know, Lamar obviously didn't make the playoffs. They

489
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Speaker 5: were on the cusp of it, just played in the

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Speaker 5: AFC Championship game the year before, Josh dealing with the injuries,

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Speaker 5: and they had gone to the playoffs and won a

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Speaker 5: playoff game. So I think that's probably like, just because

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Speaker 5: it's been three years since the Bengals have been there,

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Speaker 5: and because Burrow has been hurt so much, it's almost

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Speaker 5: like he's automatically removed from the conversation. I agree with

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Speaker 5: your point though, I think he should be, But to

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Speaker 5: make sense of maybe why he isn't, that's probably.

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Speaker 3: But I also think too, if you look at those

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Speaker 3: three Lamar twenty eight, Joe and Josh twenty nine years old, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: well they didn't commit at the same time. Sure where

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Speaker 3: they're at right now. It feels like they're in that

502
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Speaker 3: moment of their prime where it's okay, there's some pressure

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Speaker 3: on these guys and Josh.

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Speaker 5: I get it.

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Speaker 3: Why this year because Mahomes and Joe and Lamar weren't

506
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Speaker 3: in the playoffs, so it's like, all right, big dog,

507
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Speaker 3: your turn now. And they came up short and Josh

508
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Speaker 3: Allen played terribly in the game. They lost Lamar up

509
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Speaker 3: and down season, dealing with more injuries than he's ever

510
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Speaker 3: dealt with. Now, dealing with a new head coach, I

511
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Speaker 3: get that there's different avenues there. If anything, I think

512
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Speaker 3: the continuity brings an added pressure to Joe Burrow. The

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Speaker 3: way they've built this roster, what they've put in on

514
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Speaker 3: the offensive side of the ball. This those three names

515
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Speaker 3: should be tied together when it comes to Super Bowl pressure,

516
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Speaker 3: and I think that's a good thing. If you're mentioned

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Speaker 3: on that list, that means the expectations are there, and

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Speaker 3: that's a good thing. We'll take a break when we

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Speaker 3: come back. We'll open the phone lines up for the

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Speaker 3: first time today five to one, three seven, four, nine

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Speaker 3: Edition on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station, thanks to

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Speaker 3: our friends at Skyline Chili. It's still cold out there, Austin.

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Speaker 5: Dude, I feel like today has been the coldest day.

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Speaker 5: I have not fact checked this, but when I walk

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Speaker 5: is this the clipper? It was one where I was like, okay,

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Speaker 5: this feels different than what I had We've been going through,

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Speaker 5: built different, you know. I went out and like you

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Speaker 5: scraped the you know, I saw frost off the windshield

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Speaker 5: on that nonsense, and my hands were in trouble.

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Speaker 4: Not ideal.

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Speaker 5: No, uh, for the first time. Can we just I

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Speaker 5: want to I'm seeing this a lot. Okay, y'all leave

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Speaker 5: Kendall Jenner alone.

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Speaker 4: All right? She got the bengal dress on. Do you

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Speaker 4: see this? I didn't.

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Speaker 5: Okay, she was on like Jimmy Fallon or something, and

545
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Speaker 5: she's wearing this bengal stripe dress. And then people started

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Speaker 5: photo shopping a Joe Burrow Instagram story of Kendall Jinner

547
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Speaker 5: as if they're dating and it's been going. There's a

548
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Speaker 5: lot of fake news out there in the dating world today.

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00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 5: One says Jordan Hudson and Bill Belichick broke up. Apparently

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Speaker 5: that's not true, and no, Joe Burrow is not dating

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Speaker 5: Kendall Jenner. All right, okay for everybody out there, throw

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Speaker 5: it out there. Also, Dalton Reiser is not signing with

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Speaker 5: the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, can you explain that one to folks, because I

555
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Speaker 3: know folks are like, I have more people talking about, like,

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Speaker 3: what's what's going?

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Speaker 4: Did he sign with the Chiefs? Did I miss something?

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Speaker 5: So Dalton Reisner's wife, I believe her name is Whitney.

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Speaker 5: She is a very strong social following and content creator

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Speaker 5: and stuff. They bought a house in Kansas City and

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Speaker 5: it's close to where she grew up and close to

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Speaker 5: where he went to college. It's like their dream house.

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Speaker 5: And she mentions in an Instagram post that you know

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Speaker 5: can't wait to, you know, go to this house and

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Speaker 5: make all these memories. But we don't know when it's

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Speaker 5: gonna be because Dalton's still a free agent.

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Speaker 4: There we go.

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Speaker 3: We don't know where he's gonna play this year, so

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Speaker 3: they buy they're buying their forever home. Correct, once it's

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Speaker 3: all said and done, that's the right spot.

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Speaker 5: That doesn't mean he's playing for the Chiefs this year,

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Speaker 5: although I bet the Chiefs are going to try to

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Speaker 5: sign him.

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Speaker 3: Oh, can you imagine the Chiefs I called? Did you

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Speaker 3: see this? Let's go get him?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Andy Reid probably called him today. Don't let it happen, Bengals,

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Speaker 5: don't let it happen. Could you imagine? No, I don't

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Speaker 5: want don't imagine. I don't want to imagine that.

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Speaker 3: Should that deal because again that that's the type of

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Speaker 3: deal that Sho had already been done. Yes, it would

582
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Speaker 3: be the same way I would react, Austin if Suarez

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Speaker 3: or Hayes gets signed somewhere in baseball, Like, why it

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Speaker 3: wasn't that deal then? And I can't believe I edited

585
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Speaker 3: Hazen to that because it's not even at the same level.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about those two players as we get into

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Speaker 3: some Reds conversation today, but allow us to go to

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Speaker 3: the phone lines for the first time and talk to John.

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Speaker 4: Hello, John, I.

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Speaker 10: Feel like I'm on a People Magazine correspondent here, but

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Speaker 10: we want to have fun on Friday. So Kylie Jenner

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Speaker 10: dates Timothy shallow May. All right, yep, and I'm going

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Speaker 10: to believe Shalla May and Borrow are probably boys. I

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Speaker 10: just get that feeling that they would probably hanging out

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Speaker 10: together because shallow May is like a real huge sports

596
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Speaker 10: fan and like he was on Saturday Game Day on ESPN,

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Speaker 10: he knew more about college football than half the half

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Speaker 10: the cast there. So I mean, maybe they're boys, and

599
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Speaker 10: maybe there's some double dating going on. We'll see what happens.

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Speaker 10: That'd be'd before. Good looking people hanging out together, that's

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Speaker 10: for sure.

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Speaker 4: Say let's a curtains like a normal day. And since

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Speaker 4: he three, I.

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Speaker 10: Mean you guys, you guys are far above them.

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Speaker 4: Woh absolutely way better.

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Speaker 10: I mean, you've got a quarterback in there, and Weston

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Speaker 10: you're a cool looking dude, so you know, I mean,

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Speaker 10: come on, thank you, John.

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Speaker 11: Absolutely well.

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Speaker 4: I'm here in a nice age.

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Speaker 10: By the way, it's like seven below zero here, so

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Speaker 10: it's you know, the same as you guys are getting.

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Speaker 10: Hopefully we'll getting more snow. But the conversation you have

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Speaker 10: with why Borrow isn't included in that. I think nationally,

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Speaker 10: like the national radio he always is, it's almost like

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Speaker 10: they lump together Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, and Joe Burrow

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Speaker 10: the way people talk about Plato's, Socrates and Aristotle. It's

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Speaker 10: like there's three guys that belong together because they have

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Speaker 10: won a Super Bowl. I also think the reason Justin

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Speaker 10: Herbert doesn't get lumped in is he's not as good

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Speaker 10: as them. But also, the Chargers don't really have a

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Speaker 10: fan base, like You've got good fan bases in Buffalo, Baltimore,

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Speaker 10: Kansas City, Cincinnati, and all four of those guys are

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Speaker 10: pretty much it in that city, right. I mean, Justin

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Speaker 10: Herbert's not even the most famous guy is own football team.

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Speaker 4: It's Jim Harbor.

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Speaker 10: And then you got all those rams that are more

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Speaker 10: famous than him, not to mention Lakers and Dodgers and

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Speaker 10: movie stars and everybody else. So I think that that's

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Speaker 10: part of the reason that that happens. But I think

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Speaker 10: I think both definitely belongs in that list because he's

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Speaker 10: as good as those guys. He's played at a high level.

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Speaker 10: It's just that he hasn't been able to get to

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Speaker 10: the playoffs. They have so there's more pressure on them,

635
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Speaker 10: but I think there's a ton of pressure on him

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Speaker 10: as well, because, as you said earlier, he's down twenty nine.

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Speaker 10: It's not like he's a young kid. Although I do

638
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Speaker 10: think of all those quarterbacks, he's going to age the

639
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Speaker 10: best because he's a pure pocket Passers Josh Allen and

640
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Speaker 10: Lamari Jackson get banged up a little bit and they're

641
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Speaker 10: going to see their effectiveness go down a little bit.

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Speaker 10: I did want to just mention one thing as far

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Speaker 10: as Belichick, as far as the Hall of Fame, he

644
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Speaker 10: did some research here. I know some of the voters

645
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Speaker 10: that vote for the Hall of Fame, and basically what

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Speaker 10: happened is it was because this list was so fruncated.

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Speaker 10: It was such an odd list. Right, You've had an owner,

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Speaker 10: a coach, and three veteran players. I mean, be like

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Speaker 10: going to the Oscars and having three actors, a screenwriter,

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Speaker 10: and a cinematographer all the same category.

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Speaker 4: Made no sense.

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Speaker 10: And also Robert Krafts on this list, so they may

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Speaker 10: start the answer each other out. And since you can

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Speaker 10: only vote for three, but you need coity to get

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Speaker 10: the win to get in, it's just very very confusing

656
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Speaker 10: because it used to be up until two years ago.

657
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 10: Just an up and down vote. You know, they go

658
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Speaker 10: before the committee. Fifty people, Phill Belichick, Yes or no.

659
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 4: Easy, move right on to the next one.

660
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Speaker 10: This is a little bit more convoluted, by the way,

661
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Speaker 10: from what I researched, one person out of the five

662
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Speaker 10: is going to get in. It's probably gonna be Roger Craig.

663
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it is.

664
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Speaker 6: See what happens with that.

665
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Speaker 3: It is, John, Thanks so much for the call, man,

666
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Speaker 3: Have a have a great weekend.

667
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 4: Absolutely, thank you, John.

668
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Speaker 3: I do think to John's point, Austin the idea that

669
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Speaker 3: the way in which Josh Allen and Lamar play, I mean,

670
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 3: it's it's more susceptible to injury as well. No, they're

671
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 3: running a lot more so. Yeah, there is an added

672
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 3: pressure in that as well. Let's grab another call here.

673
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Speaker 3: What's up Mike.

674
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Speaker 11: Hey, guys, I'll tell you what I'm so thrilled about.

675
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 11: Joey Bart with costs those other two guys, Rizzo and

676
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 11: the other dud Joey Vada will blow them away. Patrick

677
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 11: was so elated. Dan Patrick was so elated about Joey

678
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,959
Speaker 11: because Joey's a funny dude. Man, He's hilarious.

679
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

680
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 3: I just think his personality and the way he talks

681
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 3: and the way he gets things across is it would

682
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 3: would bode very well for him.

683
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Speaker 11: Oh. I was so happy when I heard that this morning.

684
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Speaker 11: That's why I sent you that text right away, because

685
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 11: that's how Tony's gonna want to hear about this. And

686
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 11: I didn't know if you'd heard about it or nothing.

687
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 11: So anyway, the only other thing I got real quick

688
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Speaker 11: is I had on the Today Show the other morning

689
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Speaker 11: for some reason because I didn't like what was on

690
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 11: Get Up, And they were going to have John Cougar

691
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 11: Mellencamp coming up on their show because he's starting a

692
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Speaker 11: new tour right sure, And you know John, he's from Indiana.

693
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Speaker 11: He's a homeboy from over around Wallsburg.

694
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Speaker 4: I think he's gonna see tickets to the Hoosiers.

695
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 11: Yeah, he's in Austin. He's a crazy he's my age,

696
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 11: he's seventy four. And so they were interviewing him and

697
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 11: he's on one of those treadmills and he's smoking a heater.

698
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 11: He looks smoking a heater on the treadmill and he's

699
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Speaker 11: not They're not saying, why why are you smoking a heater.

700
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 11: Are you in that kind of counterproductive? They didn't say anything.

701
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 11: He didn't. He didn't make a big deal of things.

702
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 11: Smokes rolling off that heater and he's walking on the Yeah.

703
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Speaker 5: Yeah, they have like so he has season tickets for

704
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Speaker 5: Indiana football. He goes like every game and they basically

705
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 5: put this little tent like shack thing up by the

706
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Speaker 5: press box just for him so he can smoke.

707
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Speaker 4: That's true story. He does not look seventy four. He No,

708
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Speaker 4: he doesn't. Holy cow, No, they.

709
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Speaker 11: You know you could see his body shape when he

710
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 11: was on the treadmill or a T shirt and sweat.

711
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 11: There's no, he's not. Don't have much body fat.

712
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Speaker 3: It's funny. I was I was just looking. I was

713
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 3: looking at his tour. You mentioned Indiana, Austin. He's in Noblesville,

714
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 3: Indiana on July eighteenth right now. The lowest ticket price

715
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 3: to get in three hundred and nine dollars. The next

716
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 3: night he's at Riverbend fifty five dollars. Yeah, I mean

717
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 3: they go crazy for him in Indiana.

718
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Speaker 11: You guys got to go see him. Man, unless you

719
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 11: don't like him, I don't know.

720
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 4: I like him. I like him.

721
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Speaker 11: He was always a little bit different when he came up,

722
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 11: you see, because he came up a long time ago,

723
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 11: thirty forty years ago. Sure, so he's been around anyway.

724
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Speaker 11: That's all I had. Fellows, have a great weekend at

725
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Speaker 11: Will you leave me on please?

726
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 4: Yep, I'll put you on. Thanks, Mike, have a great weekend.

727
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 4: We got some news. Oh oh no, yep.

728
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 5: Who there's been a firing in the National Football League

729
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 5: just late and it comes right before the NFL Draft.

730
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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.

731
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Speaker 5: The Minnesota Vikings have fired general manager quesci Udolpho.

732
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Speaker 4: Mensa.

733
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Speaker 12: Wow.

734
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Speaker 5: He was just in Mobile, Alabama for Senior Bowl practice

735
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 5: on TV yesterday after his fourth season. The Vikings have

736
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Speaker 5: fired him.

737
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 6: Wow.

738
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Speaker 5: All you have to do is talked about in high

739
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Speaker 5: regard for for some time. He was when he fall.

740
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 5: When he was hired, it was like, this is like

741
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 5: the next guy he had this, you know, he was

742
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 5: a he went to Princeton and Stanford. He was like

743
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 5: a financial capital guy. He was on Wall Street. He

744
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 5: came up with the Niners and the Browns and football ops.

745
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 5: They made him at the New GM and then of

746
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 5: course Sam Darnold's playing in the Super Bowl for the

747
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 5: Seattle Seahawks. And not the Minnesota Vikings. JJ McCarthy was

748
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 5: a pick you might remember, so, uh, Quesci, I hope

749
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 5: I'm saying his name Adolfo Udolpho mensa as. That's the

750
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 5: thing about this show, Gotten Canned Minnesota.

751
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 3: You could pronounce any name any way you want, and

752
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 3: I'll never push back. That's a good point. I'm just

753
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 3: gonna take it out. Yeah, that's his name. Austin knows

754
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 3: what he's talking about.

755
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 8: Where is it me?

756
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 4: I'd be I'd be a tiptoeing around that one.

757
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 5: We'll see what Teren has to say to Terran's next door.

758
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 5: I'll see I meant from him during the break if

759
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 5: he wants to share anything with us. Uh more to come.

760
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 5: We'll wrap up our number one next, and then.

761
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Speaker 4: We'll divide him his higher Duke Tobin Next, Charlie Goldsmith.

762
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Speaker 4: That's where we lead with him.

763
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Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, Welcome Back cinty three

764
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Speaker 3: to sixty. ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Charlie Goldsmith

765
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Speaker 3: joins us at the top of our number two that

766
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 3: comes up in just a few moments to follow up

767
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Speaker 3: on the the end of the conversation, we just had

768
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Speaker 3: regarding Vikings general manager quesci Adolfu Mensa nice Field Yates Austin,

769
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Speaker 3: Okay followed up, He said, the timing is the surprise.

770
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Speaker 3: He spent all week at the Senior Bowl and was

771
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Speaker 3: just extended last year. So like that means the JJ

772
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 3: McCarthy pick had already happened, right, and they were still like,

773
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Speaker 3: all right, we're going to extend you.

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Speaker 5: There was a lot of conversation, you know, out of

775
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Speaker 5: Minnesota that it's like, okay, you know, we believe in

776
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 5: in JJ McCarthy. That's why they let Darnold walk yep.

777
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 5: And that was all last year. And so they put

778
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 5: all their eggs in that basket. And he's stunk. Yeah,

779
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 5: and he was hurt, but he's stunk. He was bad,

780
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 5: really bad.

781
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Speaker 4: He was not good. I should draft to Shador. I

782
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 4: mean he's pro bowler. Oh that's true. I would.

783
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 5: I have more faith this and maybe this is a

784
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 5: hot take. I have more faith in Shadoor with Kevin

785
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 5: O'Connell than JJ McCarthy.

786
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 4: Okay, I think he's bad.

787
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 3: Mentioned earlier, Bill's hired Pete Carmichael to be their offensive coordinator.

788
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 3: It's the first hire of Joe Brady's staff, So Brady's

789
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 3: gonna call the place. But Carmichael, who's the Denver Broncos

790
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 3: senior offensive assistant, is bringing coordinating experience from fifteen years

791
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,720
Speaker 3: to the Saints. He was with the Saints for fifteen

792
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 3: years bringing that to the Buffalo Bills. So I just

793
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 3: I'm so intrigued to see how so many of these

794
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 3: moving parts in the AFC come together.

795
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Speaker 4: For next year. Yeah, and which teams get it right?

796
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Speaker 12: You know.

797
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Speaker 3: I go back to the list we talked about yesterday

798
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 3: of the head coaching hires since twenty twenty one, all

799
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 3: thirty seven of them, and how many of those you

800
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 3: look back on like, oh my gosh, that was a disaster.

801
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 3: And you wonder at this time next year, who you're

802
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 3: talking about on that list, Because not all these not

803
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 3: all these coaches are going to be hits. Some of

804
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 3: these hires are gonna are they gonna fall flat's that's

805
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 3: just what the odds say. And there are going to

806
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 3: be a couple that's like, man, that team found their guy.

807
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 3: A team they waited till the right time, they did

808
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 3: it the right way. But I feel like this coaching

809
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 3: hire is going to be so interesting to watch going forward.

810
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 3: We talked about the quarterbacks under the most pressure next year.

811
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Speaker 3: What about the quarterbacks in this Super Bowl? Because it's

812
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 3: intriguing to me because Sam Donald was kind of like

813
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 3: this guy that everyone forgot, everyone kind of moved past,

814
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 3: and then Drake may is this up and coming guy

815
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 3: and you think, well, Drake May is just kind of

816
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 3: at the tip of the iceberg. You know, he's going

817
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 3: to be able to get to a lot more of these.

818
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 3: He'll have his chance to win more of these. Sam Donald,

819
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 3: no one saw coming. Which of these quarterbacks in the

820
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 3: Super Bowls under more pressure?

821
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Speaker 4: Definitely Sam Donald.

822
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 3: Donald was drafted in the same draft as Baker Mayfield,

823
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 3: Josh Allen, Josh Rosen, and Lamar Jackson.

824
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, the conversation around Darnold has always been how does

825
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 5: he play in the biggest moments and can he actually

826
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 5: gets you over the hump? And we have seen him

827
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 5: just melt down at times, which is all down last

828
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 5: year with the Vikings in the playoffs.

829
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Speaker 3: But it's why I thought last week it was different

830
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 3: because he's he had six interceptions and no touchdowns this

831
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 3: year against the Rams and diced them.

832
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 5: Up and what is the narrative going to be about him.

833
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 5: If he were to play like that in Super Bowl sixty,

834
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 5: he would always be known as the guy who just

835
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 5: couldn't do it. And you know, with with Drake May,

836
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 5: it's still so early in his career. I think he

837
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 5: is plugged into a situation in which you might end

838
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 5: up having a Hall of Fame owner in Robert Kraft.

839
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 5: You've got one of the most respected minds and coaches

840
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 5: in football, and Mike Rabel. You've been plugged into a

841
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 5: Josh McDaniels offense, which has been very successful every time

842
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 5: he's been in New England. And yeah, there's like you know,

843
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 5: filling the shoes of braid and all that. But I

844
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 5: don't know that anybody expects this, expects him to be

845
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 5: Tom Brady. It's very much a different style of New

846
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 5: England Patriot football, and so I don't know that he

847
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 5: feels the pressure as much as someone like Sam does.

848
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, at least that's the way I look at it.

849
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's different again, like the pressure for me, for Darnold,

850
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 3: I don't think there's a ton I think that puts

851
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 3: you in a different stratosphere for the rest of your career.

852
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 3: It validates who you are. It validates the work that

853
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 3: you've put in and finally getting to the right spot. Well,

854
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 3: for Drake May, it's like, shoot, he already he already

855
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 3: got one and he's this young watch out. Yeah like

856
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 3: that that's the difference in those two.

857
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:40,439
Speaker 4: Yeah.

858
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 5: I think you could also use the same almost like

859
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 5: the Dan Marino or the Joe Burrows side of things

860
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 5: with with Drake May, it's like are you ever going

861
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 5: to get back?

862
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 4: Correct this? This is your only one.

863
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 5: You're going to You could apply that to both of them.

864
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 5: Let me ask you this though, like from your perspective

865
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 5: and the biggest games you ever played in, how much

866
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 5: thought did you give to the pressure or you just

867
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 5: so dialed in on what you're so consumed like you

868
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 5: don't even feel it?

869
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 4: Right, No, you're so consumed, You're a.

870
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 5: Meaningless conversation, right, You're not like right before kick you

871
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Speaker 5: have nerves, right, but the nerves aren't this is my legacy? Yeah,

872
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Speaker 5: or man, I've got to perform well because of the

873
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Speaker 5: other guy on the other sideline.

874
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Speaker 4: It is what can I do to win? Now?

875
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Speaker 5: I don't mean this in a mean way, but you

876
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Speaker 5: go to the Sugar Bowl and you had played very

877
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 5: poorly in the Orange Bowl? Was that in your thought?

878
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Speaker 5: It was that in your mind at all going into

879
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 5: the Sugar Bowl of like, god, I can't play that

880
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 5: badly again. No, it was more so.

881
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Speaker 3: Revisiting the Orange Bowl and thinking, Okay, what did I

882
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 3: do wrong? Where could I have prepared better? What can

883
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 3: I have done and got myself in a in a

884
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Speaker 3: better situation. But like before that, you're not thinking like, oh,

885
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Speaker 3: I can't.

886
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Speaker 4: Go you can't go through. I can't be Tony picking

887
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,919
Speaker 4: if I go back again? Holy caw.

888
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 3: But like it is, we're because they say it all

889
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 3: the time, like as soon as the first play happens,

890
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 3: you don't think about anything else.

891
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, but nowadays.

892
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 3: Social media to meet with everything leading up, it becomes

893
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Speaker 3: more of a story than it really is to the players. Yeah,

894
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 3: and I get I get your the stories and why

895
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 3: that's hot button topics, but it is kind of what

896
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Speaker 3: it is. We'll break our guy. Good friend Charlie Goldsmith

897
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Speaker 3: calls Bly no pressure for him, zero pressure.

898
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Speaker 4: You don't feel it.

899
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Speaker 3: I wonder what Charlie thinks about before kickof you can't

900
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Speaker 3: zero blitz him? You know, hey, he's in the barn.

901
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 3: Really did I do everything I could to prepare. What

902
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Speaker 3: am I looking for in today's matchup? I want to

903
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Speaker 3: ask Charlie about the pressure thing with Joe Burrow as well,

904
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Speaker 3: among many other things. Next on the Home of the Bengals,

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Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, Wise.

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Speaker 1: This is Tony Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: From Cincinnati. This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 4: Our number two. Welcome back or welcome in.

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Speaker 3: If this is your first time tuning in today, you

914
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Speaker 3: obviously know what time it is. Our guy, Charlie Goldsmith,

915
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Speaker 3: always willing to join us on Friday at one o'clock.

916
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Speaker 3: We are certainly excited to have him. We look forward

917
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Speaker 3: to it each and every week, and we do so

918
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Speaker 3: right now as well.

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Speaker 4: Charlie. What's going on, man? How are you?

920
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Speaker 13: I'm doing good?

921
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Speaker 4: How about you, Charlie?

922
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Speaker 3: I am I'm fantastic. We talked earlier in the show

923
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Speaker 3: today about a conversation I heard earlier today about which

924
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Speaker 3: quarterback was under more pressure to win a Super Bowl.

925
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Speaker 3: Is it Josh Allen or is it Lamar Jackson? And

926
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Speaker 3: my first initial thought was, I think Joe Burrow should

927
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Speaker 3: be on that list as well. They made the deal

928
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Speaker 3: that they got Chase Jamar Chase T Higgins under contract.

929
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Speaker 3: They chose continuity, so you're not talking about a quarterback

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Speaker 3: with a new coaching staff or system coming in. When

931
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Speaker 3: we talk about next season in the AFC and the

932
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Speaker 3: hierarchy of quarterbacks, should Joe Burrow be on that list

933
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Speaker 3: of players that feel like they have pressure to win

934
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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 13: If we're talking about like quarterback pantheon ranking being a

936
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Speaker 13: driving force of what creates pressure, I would still have

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Speaker 13: Burrow third on that list because the difference is is

938
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Speaker 13: that we've seen a lot of examples of Josh Allen

939
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Speaker 13: not being good enough in the playoffs. We've seen a

940
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Speaker 13: lot of examples about Lamar Jackson not being good enough

941
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Speaker 13: in the playoffs, And a big part of the stories

942
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Speaker 13: of each of them has been Lamar and Josh not

943
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Speaker 13: necessarily beating the moment or making mistakes in massive moments.

944
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Speaker 13: Just look at, you know, the builds against the Jaguars.

945
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Speaker 13: Josh Allen rightfully so put that game on himself. So

946
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Speaker 13: to me, the fact that Burrow has consistently been great

947
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Speaker 13: in the playoffs and transcended some of the worst offensive

948
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Speaker 13: line play you'll ever see, that makes me feel like

949
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Speaker 13: the Julie he had less pressure. But yes, the Bengals

950
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Speaker 13: is a team they theoretically should be set up to

951
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Speaker 13: do more next year, so theoretically there'd be more pressure

952
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Speaker 13: on the.

953
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Speaker 4: Team the off season.

954
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Speaker 3: And we've talked kind of about the priorities and what

955
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Speaker 3: avenues to attack and when to attack them. But something

956
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Speaker 3: that you and Joe Daniman discussed on a gold standard

957
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Speaker 3: eliminating distractions, how how do you quantify how do you

958
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Speaker 3: put into words what distractions in past off seasons and

959
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Speaker 3: regardless of what they are, how they came about, how

960
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Speaker 3: much do distractions get in the way of the off

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Speaker 3: season In the NFL?

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Speaker 13: It felt like and we've seen it on the defensive

963
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Speaker 13: line with Trey and I think there's always been like

964
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Speaker 13: a defensive tackle heard as well, you know shamal ug

965
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Speaker 13: got last year. It's felt like I even't seen the

966
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Speaker 13: Bengals starting defensive line, the four guys together on the

967
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Speaker 13: field next to each other in OTAs like forever. The continuity,

968
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Speaker 13: the ability need to have everyone out there, specifically with

969
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Speaker 13: where the Bengals are at now, because what I feel

970
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Speaker 13: very strongly the Bengals need is kind of their established

971
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Speaker 13: young core of young ves, you know, DJ Turner, Dax Hill,

972
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Speaker 13: Chase Brown on offense, Miles Murphy, Jordan Battle. They need

973
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Speaker 13: to make this team kind of their own and taking

974
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Speaker 13: that ownership from a leadership standpoint and bringing others along

975
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Speaker 13: with it and getting that chemistry and continuity on the

976
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Speaker 13: field as well. It's really important to me that you're

977
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Speaker 13: able to see that and develop that throughout the offseason.

978
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Speaker 13: So it's not just avoiding distractions, it's start finding solutions.

979
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Speaker 13: And you can only really find those solutions on the

980
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Speaker 13: field if the people leading that are as invested as

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Speaker 13: they possibly can be to be a part of it

982
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Speaker 13: because they see a long term future with the team.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, Trey Hendrickson was one of those distractions. Trey Hendrickson,

984
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Speaker 3: by many accounts, listed as the top available free agent

985
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Speaker 3: in the National Football League. What are the options that

986
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Speaker 3: you foresee, if any, that the Cincinnati Bengals have or

987
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Speaker 3: do you think this is pretty cut and dry.

988
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Speaker 13: One of the defining questions of the off season. I

989
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Speaker 13: put it like this. I remember on locker clean out

990
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Speaker 13: day talking to a couple of my friends on the beat,

991
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Speaker 13: and we were looking kind of at the lockers around

992
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Speaker 13: and there's the prime corner locker which had been Trey

993
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Speaker 13: Hendrickson's locker when the offensive linemen were on that side

994
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Speaker 13: of the locker room that had been Orlando Brown's blocker,

995
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Speaker 13: and then next to them on the left and the

996
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Speaker 13: left covenant stop. But it's still good spot with Miles Murphy.

997
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Speaker 13: And my question was, is Miles next year going to

998
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Speaker 13: be in Trey's locker or are they going to sign

999
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Speaker 13: someone who gets.

1000
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Speaker 12: That locker and mouth Murphy.

1001
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Speaker 13: Stays in the locker that he's currently in. Like obviously

1002
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Speaker 13: the lockers don't matter, but it's the concept in the

1003
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Speaker 13: theory of do they get someone to leave that room

1004
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 13: or do they make this Murphy lad room that they

1005
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Speaker 13: compliment in platoon and draft to seek upside and try

1006
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Speaker 13: to build some more depth in as well. Whether or

1007
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Speaker 13: not they should get a defense into the end one

1008
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Speaker 13: or defensive end two for me is one of the

1009
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 13: defining questions of the off season. I go back and

1010
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Speaker 13: forth it with fourth with it, I end up landing

1011
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 13: on a two because that lets you kind of do

1012
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Speaker 13: the whole twenty twenty one thing and address multiple levels

1013
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 13: with mid range for agents and get the playmaker you

1014
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 13: need in the defensive backfield and the veteran you need

1015
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 13: a safety. But you could certainly talk me into an

1016
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Speaker 13: not Flay or kind of someone in that boy and

1017
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Speaker 13: mafe someone in that year.

1018
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Speaker 5: Do you think you could apply that same logic to

1019
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 5: the cornerbacks? And I know that they've kind of talked

1020
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 5: to DJ Turner about him maybe stepping up and being

1021
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 5: the leader in that room. Do you think that same

1022
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 5: logic could be applied to that room?

1023
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 13: Yeah, Like the way I look at it too, And

1024
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 13: obviously this is Burrow, Chase and Haggins's team, but they're

1025
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 13: on such a different level that like their experience is

1026
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 13: almost different than everyone else's experience. If I'm you know,

1027
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Speaker 13: the Bengals third round pick who comes in, the guys

1028
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Speaker 13: I'm looking towards is all right, like these Turner that's

1029
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 13: the past, Chase Brown, that's the past. Dax Hill as well.

1030
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Speaker 13: Just yes, he was a first round pick, but you know,

1031
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 13: we all know the twists and turns that his career

1032
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 13: took earlier in his early in his career. But like Dja,

1033
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Speaker 13: especially like being on the bench, he found the meditation

1034
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 13: that worked for him. He developed his routine, He developed

1035
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 13: this confidence. He turned literal weaknesses on the field into

1036
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Speaker 13: strengths like do it like that, be like that, And

1037
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Speaker 13: that's a much easier pitch for a young guy to

1038
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Speaker 13: buy into and follow through with. If these are guys

1039
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Speaker 13: you've paid because with those contracts comes some credibility and

1040
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 13: recognition as well. So all of that I see helping

1041
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 13: the team move forward.

1042
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 3: So earlier in the week, in a conversation with Ben

1043
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 3: Baby of Chase Brown talking about the organization has already

1044
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 3: been in contact with his agent about the possibility of

1045
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Speaker 3: an extension and to tie that in with what we

1046
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 3: talked about at the top here Charlie of eliminating distractions,

1047
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Speaker 3: how far would that go for the Bengals things in

1048
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 3: the offseason? You know, of the to do list? Can

1049
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 3: you get as much as you need to get done

1050
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 3: on the offensive side of the ball early and then

1051
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Speaker 3: shift all your focus of the main core of the

1052
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Speaker 3: offseason on the defensive side of the ball. How important

1053
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 3: would that be?

1054
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Speaker 13: Yeah, Well, you know we've been having for several years

1055
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Speaker 13: will continue to have the debate should you pay a

1056
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Speaker 13: running back for a Bengals perspective? Like I think we

1057
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Speaker 13: all like the idea of protecting Joe Burrow and being

1058
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 13: more balanced and protecting the offensive line by not having

1059
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Speaker 13: them drop back in shotgun million times. You see that

1060
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Speaker 13: value in the run game. Plus, what the Bengals offense

1061
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Speaker 13: needs more of the most is explosiveness, and aside from Jamar,

1062
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Speaker 13: Chase Chase Brown and featuring him more is kind of

1063
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Speaker 13: their easiest path towards more explosiveness. And then with the

1064
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Speaker 13: stuff I said about you know, DJ Turner and Dax

1065
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Speaker 13: like Chase Brown is certainly a part of it. Be

1066
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Speaker 13: like that guy, do what he did and good things

1067
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 13: will happen to you. We will reward you. You at

1068
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Speaker 13: that precedent. By rewarding guys like Chase Brown, he makes

1069
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Speaker 13: your team so much better culturally and on the field.

1070
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Speaker 13: From an x than those perspectives, I would argue that

1071
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Speaker 13: through twenty twenty two, the Joe Mixing contract was a

1072
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Speaker 13: significant success in Cincinnati, and even in twenty twenty three

1073
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,439
Speaker 13: he was on a take cut, the offense.

1074
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Speaker 4: Was still really good.

1075
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Speaker 13: Like I think extending Joe mix in a few years

1076
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,399
Speaker 13: ago is the right move, and then they got out

1077
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Speaker 13: of it as soon as it wasn't the right moves anymore.

1078
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Speaker 13: So for all those reasons, I'm for extending Chase Brown.

1079
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Speaker 13: And the earlier you do it, we see it with

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Speaker 13: every team throughout the league, the more flexibility and whe

1081
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Speaker 13: the room it gives.

1082
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Speaker 12: You as a whole.

1083
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Speaker 3: How many mock drafts will you yourself come up with

1084
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Speaker 3: maybe between now and the draft?

1085
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Speaker 4: Oh wow?

1086
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Speaker 13: I do like that they're at ten because it's very clean,

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Speaker 13: and also there's just such clear information about like the

1088
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 13: top fifteen in the draft in a way that you

1089
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 13: kind of have to really stretch and dig four and

1090
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 13: you're like pick twenty nine. Not probably not as many

1091
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 13: as I would if it were a different style of class.

1092
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 13: Like I'm sure I'll just keep circling back to the

1093
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 13: same five guys like Downs, Bailey, Baine Woods styles. Maybe

1094
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 13: I'm missing one or two. Like to me, it's less

1095
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 13: mock draft driven and more all right, let's make sure

1096
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 13: I understand those five guys as well as possible.

1097
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 12: By the time it's.

1098
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 3: Drapped there, I want to switch gears for a few

1099
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 3: minutes and talk about the Cincinnati Reds obviously spring training

1100
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 3: rapidly approaching, and we heard last week the idea of,

1101
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 3: you know, the Reds have some interest in Austin Hayes

1102
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 3: or Iohanneyo Suarez, but kind of waiting out what the

1103
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 3: TV deal looks like. From the messaging we've received in

1104
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 3: the offseason up to this point, does Suarez even make

1105
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 3: sense with kind of who he is. He's not a

1106
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 3: great fielder, He's he's gonna hit home runs, but the

1107
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,919
Speaker 3: strikeout rate is up. Is is a guy like Swa

1108
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 3: in your opinion? Does he fit into what we're being

1109
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 3: told the Reds want to be.

1110
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 13: I want to clarify something. The Reds are trying to

1111
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 13: hit more homers this year. I talked to this guy,

1112
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 13: and I know, like there are different Chrystal Laker quotes

1113
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 13: that have taken off, Like I talked to Chris at

1114
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 13: the winter meeting, Like when he talked about the off

1115
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:25,720
Speaker 13: season strategical plans that they've developed for most of their hitters.

1116
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 13: They circle around impacting the baseball war. So I Matt

1117
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 13: McClain's added like ten pounds or something, and he plans

1118
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 13: to drive the ball more. I haven't confirmed this with Ellie.

1119
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 13: But my guess would be that Ellie is going to

1120
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 13: stick with the high leg kick that he ended last

1121
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 13: season with, which is his home run kind of sell

1122
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 13: out for power swings. They're committing to playing South Stewart.

1123
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 13: That's a power driven decision. All of these are developmental focus.

1124
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 13: I don't expect them to or I guess they theoretically

1125
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 13: could have got like Suarez, but they would. Power isn't

1126
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 13: necessarily the first thing that they'll prioritize when they add

1127
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 13: a free agent. But if the Swarez market dips enough,

1128
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 13: which maybe it will, because clearly he's not as in

1129
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 13: pursuit as a lot of projections expected him to be

1130
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 13: at the start of the season, if you get him

1131
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 13: for the right price, that makes it much easier to

1132
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 13: pigeonhole him. Is just a full time DH ignore the

1133
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 13: defense and live with the strikeouts. But the Reds, how

1134
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 13: they've built this organization kind of strategically and philosophically from

1135
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 13: hitting perspective, doesn't necessarily mean, oh, we just have no

1136
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 13: interest in anyone who would hit homers, or any interest

1137
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 13: in having our own guys try to.

1138
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 3: Hit more home And this law, this slow phase in

1139
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 3: baseball and especially free agency.

1140
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 4: This is normal.

1141
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 3: You highlighted it as well. This is something that the

1142
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 3: Reds historically do. If you look at some of the

1143
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 3: free agent moves they've added, it does get into late

1144
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 3: January early February, when those moves are normally happening.

1145
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 13: This hear even more so. And I don't know if

1146
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 13: it's the TV stuff or really what's going on, but

1147
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 13: there is a stunning amount of free agents left onside.

1148
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 13: Like I haven't studied the starting pitching market as much

1149
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 13: because the Reds don't need one, but like there's still

1150
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 13: like twenty, like legit starting pitchers available, Like every team

1151
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 13: could use Nick Martinez. He's just sitting out there. And

1152
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 13: then on the position player side, I think it's like

1153
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 13: five outfielders, five DH's all of the first basemen, basically

1154
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 13: all of the utility players. And it's normal because it's

1155
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 13: just like life, like it's like what are you gonna

1156
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 13: do on Saturday night. You'll keep your options open, You'll

1157
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 13: but eventually it's like Saturday at four and it's like,

1158
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 13: oh wait, like I need to actually get this done.

1159
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 13: Deadlines make deals, and the freeze is continuing, and eventually

1160
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 13: over the next week, ass that push will come to

1161
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 13: shove and you'll see a ton of action because there

1162
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 13: are a ton of real players out there.

1163
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 5: Uh talking pitching a little bit. I feel like a

1164
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 5: name that we keep kind of forgetting about because he

1165
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 5: was hurt last year is Rhet Louder. What do you

1166
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 5: expect the plan to be for Reht Louder as we

1167
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 5: go into spring training in a couple of weeks.

1168
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 13: So he's full go and his off season is I guess,

1169
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 13: very similar to what it was last year, which was

1170
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 13: a normal, healthy offseason for him entering the spring. The

1171
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 13: reality is, as long as I've been doing this, someone

1172
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,439
Speaker 13: always gets hurt during spring training. That's happened every year.

1173
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 13: So if you look at the red main rotation candidates,

1174
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 13: Green Lidolo, Abbott, Burns, Singer, I would set really Singer Burns,

1175
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 13: I would say those are your clear top five. I

1176
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 13: think case Burns would be wasting the time throwing another

1177
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 13: pitch in the minors. So if you were breaking camp

1178
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 13: right now with this being your team, I'd have Burns

1179
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 13: a head a ladder in that competition. But because someone

1180
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 13: always gets hurt, has to slow play their throwing program,

1181
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 13: like Andrew Rabbit spent the first two weeks on the

1182
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 13: IL last year because he was a bit behind with

1183
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 13: his throwing progression like something like that that always happened. So

1184
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 13: that could open up a spot for Louder, who I

1185
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 13: think more than more and more than a big league

1186
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 13: caliber arm right now already, even with him having missed

1187
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 13: the year. But if you get lucky and everyone stays healthy,

1188
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 13: I think there's also nothing wrong with the guy who

1189
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 13: just missed an entire season getting a couple starts in

1190
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 13: and triple I until the need opens up, until someone

1191
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 13: gets hurt, because really you do need nine or ten

1192
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 13: starting pitchers you trust on.

1193
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 5: Your depth chart outside of Ellie Da La Cruz. Are

1194
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 5: there any injuries that were kind of keep an eye

1195
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 5: on that our need to be checked in on once

1196
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 5: we get the training or spring training that might linger

1197
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 5: into that part portion.

1198
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 13: I specifically asked Harry Francona or Red Seth just two

1199
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 13: weeks ago, and he said, the only one that was

1200
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 13: even on his radar was just Tyler Callahan coming back

1201
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 13: from two major surgeries, and he was swinging and doing

1202
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 13: all that stuff. But they might have to keep an

1203
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 13: eye on him, is what Francona said. But other than

1204
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 13: that when I asked, there was nothing that came up.

1205
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 5: The other thing that I'm really curious to find out,

1206
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 5: and maybe this is something we won't know until spring training,

1207
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 5: is second base. Outside of Matt McClain, who are some

1208
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 5: of the options really to play second base? Because we

1209
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 5: heard south Stewart say earlier this this couple weeks ago,

1210
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 5: about he was told to focus on first base and

1211
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 5: third base. What are the options for the backup to

1212
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 5: Matt McLain.

1213
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 13: Niky important thing because like they're going to get any

1214
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 13: more days off. When Ellie gets a day off, how

1215
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 13: do you fill your infield that day? Kause McClain's going

1216
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 13: to be a short so at second there are three options.

1217
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 13: Option one is that they still add a utility player

1218
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 13: between now and the start of the season, and it

1219
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 13: could even be if the prices line up, they could

1220
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 13: add another, you know, kind of outfield first base type

1221
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 13: where which would be a bat first guy, and then

1222
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 13: sign a utility guy as well, just to fill your gaps,

1223
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 13: give you more comfort, give you more confidence to kind

1224
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 13: of fill the role that Espinal had last season, and

1225
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 13: big league guys. Big league teams have guys like that

1226
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 13: on their team. Option number two would be short, and yes,

1227
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 13: it sounded like he's been focusing on first and third.

1228
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 13: He played seventeen games in the Meyers at second last year.

1229
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 13: He's not your prototypical second baseman. It's a position he

1230
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 13: doesn't really have a ton of experience at. Would you

1231
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 13: be willing to have him, you know, be able to

1232
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 13: start there in a pinch is a question that you

1233
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 13: probably would have the answer to until spring training, until

1234
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 13: you see how it looks. Now you get to Spencer Steer,

1235
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 13: who has more experienced at second, But the last time

1236
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 13: we saw him there in twenty twenty four spring training

1237
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 13: U pretty poorly. Can he fill in at second? I

1238
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 13: know that was a conversation in October. Something he could

1239
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 13: work on during the offseason. Again, something will need to

1240
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 13: see in spring. I'd love for Steer ors who are

1241
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 13: to be able to play second, because if you don't

1242
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 13: sign that utility guy in Steer and South camps, well,

1243
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 13: then all of a sudden, you're opening up an opportunity

1244
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,959
Speaker 13: for Tyler Callahan or a Michael shawvis or I guess

1245
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 13: Garrett Hampson to be on the roster, which is something

1246
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 13: that we're not expecting right now. But you need a

1247
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 13: backup second baseman. So that's how you circle back to

1248
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 13: those guys.

1249
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 4: One other one.

1250
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 3: I had Charlie to go back to the pitching we know,

1251
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 3: and we've talked a lot about Hunter Green and Chase

1252
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 3: Burns and Rhet Louder and Brady Singer Nicklodolo. For years,

1253
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 3: it was can Nick Lodolo stay healthy? And for the

1254
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 3: most part last year he was able to stay healthy. Obviously,

1255
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 3: still goes through those times during the season like everyone

1256
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 3: else does. But if Lodolo can back that up, what

1257
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 3: is the ceiling in your opinion for him and obviously

1258
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 3: what that means for the rotation.

1259
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 13: Lodolo in twenty twenty three never came back from the

1260
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 13: calf injury, but I think if he did in twenty

1261
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 13: twenty three, Lodolo, if he did in more importantly, the

1262
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 13: rect made the playoffs in twenty twenty three, which obviously

1263
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 13: they didn't, I think Lodola would have been the Game

1264
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 13: one starter in twenty twenty three. Now, it was a

1265
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 13: bit of a different circumstance in twenty twenty five, because

1266
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 13: you know, Abbott had leveled up to that extent, because

1267
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 13: Hunter had you know, he was basically coming off complete

1268
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 13: games shut out against the Cubs that he had just delivered,

1269
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 13: and we all know what his upside is. But over

1270
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 13: the course of Lodolo's career effort, several smart baseball people

1271
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 13: I really trust say they'd take Lodolo over the group personally. Actually,

1272
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 13: I think I might take Chase Burns out of that

1273
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 13: entire group, just if you're giving me one guy for

1274
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 13: the rest of his career. But because the breaking ball

1275
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 13: and the arm angle and all that and the ability

1276
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 13: to play that sinker up in the zone is so

1277
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 13: rare from Lodolo. It really is that front line upside.

1278
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 13: And I was thinking to myself today, like, what's the

1279
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 13: thing for Nick this year? Like, what's the big kind

1280
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 13: of you know, the way I think of it as

1281
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 13: a story I'm going to write and spring and for me,

1282
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 13: for Nick, you know who accomplished stag healthy last year,

1283
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 13: it's what does he look like as a starter in

1284
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 13: the playoffs in a must win games. And you know,

1285
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 13: we forget that he had to pitch out of the

1286
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 13: bullten last year because they needed him in Game one

1287
01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:00,080
Speaker 13: sixty two because they will kind of go all and

1288
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 13: to win that game, and that cost them. Lodolo's starting

1289
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 13: game too, So what does Nick Lodola look like in

1290
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 13: as a starter on that stage? That's kind of a

1291
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 13: last question for me about him, and that's an exciting

1292
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 13: place for a pitcher to be.

1293
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 5: We saw the reports yesterday as well, Charlie that Joey

1294
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 5: Vado is going to be a part of NBC's MLB coverage.

1295
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 4: What do you think about that? How do you think

1296
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 4: Joey will do?

1297
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 13: How do I Joey? The whole thing about Joey is

1298
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 13: that he could literally do whatever he wants posts baseball

1299
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Speaker 13: and kind of what I hope this is a baseball fan,

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01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 13: is that this is a regular you know, he's a

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Speaker 13: featured part. I'm forgetting who NBC has in their main

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Speaker 13: desk for the NBA stuff, And I think like John

1303
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 13: Wall and those guys and Blake Griffin are on Amazon,

1304
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 13: but NBC has those guys that they have as well,

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01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 13: like them being the face of kind of the NBA stuff,

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01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 13: the ability to have the face of kind of your

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01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 13: baseball coverage from a studio perspective, and the way that

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01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 13: the NBA coverage has really been positively receives on NBC. Again,

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01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 13: I forget who there's specific guys are but it's it's

1310
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 13: like mellow. Mellow's a part of it, like the ability

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01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 13: to have a person like Vono hopefully that invested. I'm

1312
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 13: pretty sorried up about that, just knowing Joey and what

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01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 13: he can do in that stage.

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Speaker 3: Charlie, before I let you go, it has been since

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Speaker 3: February first, twenty twenty that the Bearcats have been able

1316
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 3: to beat the Houston Cougars. Does anything going into to

1317
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 3: tomorrow give you optimism that they could buck that trend?

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Speaker 12: You know what?

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01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 13: Listening to west Miller after the Baylor game, like, I

1320
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:36,439
Speaker 13: think he was kind of impressed that he was able

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01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 13: to put together a coherent rotation on when they considering

1322
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 13: all the injuries they were dealing with and all the

1323
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 13: last minute, last second, you know, Creso was questionable hair

1324
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 13: down at the last minute due to another list. So

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01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 13: you know, this isn't necessarily a UC team that's set

1326
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 13: up to give you their best punch right now. Buyers

1327
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 13: out all these things going on, So maybe not, but

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01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 13: you know, let's see they can kind of keep this

1329
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 13: defensive effort up that's been fun to watch over the last.

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Speaker 6: Couple of weeks.

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01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 4: Just roll the ball out there and see what happens.

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Speaker 3: I like it, Charlie Goldsmith always always appreciate your time.

1333
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 3: What is the easiest way to folks for folks to

1334
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 3: follow along with everything he got going on, got.

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Speaker 13: Charlie's shockboard on subsdack and on Fox nineteen And let

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Speaker 13: me say one more thing. Happy birthday to my dad

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01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 13: this week.

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Speaker 4: Wow. When's his birthday?

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01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 6: Wow?

1340
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 4: What's his name?

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01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 6: Coleman?

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01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 5: Coleman, Happy birthday. That's awesome. Oh, thank you for giving

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01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 5: us Charlie.

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Speaker 3: Coleman shares his birthday this year with the Royal Rumble.

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01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 3: Who you like to win the Royal Rumble, Charlie, Oh boy,

1346
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 3: Coleman Coleman, surprise surprise entrant. That is Charlie Goldsmith. And honestly,

1347
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 3: happy birthday to your dad as well. And we appreciate

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01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 3: you greatly, Charlie.

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Speaker 13: Thank you guys.

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Speaker 3: That is Charlie Goldsmith Coleman. Happy birthday, col Hampy birthday Coleman,

1351
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 3: and good luck, great name in Saudi Arabia and the

1352
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Speaker 3: Royal Rumble tomorrow.

1353
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder if he even knows he's participating.

1354
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 3: We'll find out, or maybe we won't. We'll see your

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01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 3: talkback's next Springs.

1356
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Speaker 4: I didn't know anything about him.

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Speaker 3: He did not talkbacks. Next the ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: Sports Station.

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Speaker 7: Now, here's your chance to win one thousand dollars. Just

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Speaker 8: Bank.

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01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 4: That's bank.

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Speaker 14: Answer it now, backs, Press the microphone and record your

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01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 14: message or Austin in tone, Please keep it clean and

1365
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 14: don't be mean, and a sprinkle.

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01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 12: Sprinkled, drip drip.

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Speaker 14: It's that time, but talkbacks it's our favorite parter since

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Speaker 14: three sixty.

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Speaker 4: So Austin, buddy, play those.

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Speaker 14: Talkbacks on your screen and please ride out to sabotage.

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Speaker 4: Here we go.

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Speaker 3: The Friday edition of Your Talkbacks happens now on the

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Speaker 3: ESPA fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station.

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Speaker 2: Hey there, Tony and Austin.

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01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 15: Austin, I saw an auticle about a couple OSU players

1376
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 15: saying they would have beat Indiana in a rematch. I

1377
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 15: just want to congratulate you and the Buckeyes on a

1378
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 15: great hypothetical win. How about you hang another banda for

1379
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 15: this year and give Ryan Day another one, or else

1380
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:24,799
Speaker 15: he might stop crying.

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01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 8: Have a good weekend, gentlemen felt.

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01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 5: Kind of personal on a Friday. Cry and Ryan, that's

1383
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,799
Speaker 5: what they call kind of personal with the haters. Losers

1384
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 5: and fake news media will call it.

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01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 4: My goodness.

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01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:37,640
Speaker 5: I will say this though, if you're Ohio State, you

1387
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 5: should probably just keep your mouth shut.

1388
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 16: Tony Austin balling and easy here.

1389
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 4: It's just all too predictable.

1390
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 17: I mean, Caleb down says he thinks we'd beat Indiana

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01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 17: in a rematch.

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Speaker 12: Oh, it's a crazy thing today when you lose by

1393
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 12: one possession and you don't score in the reds one

1394
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 12: a bunch of times.

1395
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, crazy thing, confident.

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01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 12: Yeah.

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01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:57,719
Speaker 4: So, but the Ohio State haters will probably chime.

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01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 15: In and be like Tony Austin Halo think Ohio State

1399
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 15: would have won a hypothetical matchup.

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Speaker 12: You know, it's like they just that's all they do

1401
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 12: is hate.

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01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:09,640
Speaker 4: Sad Really, that's insane.

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01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 5: You know, Ballin brings great perspective there. They were in

1404
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 5: the red zone a bunch they did lose by one possession.

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01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 3: You start going down that path, you sound like me, Okay,

1406
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:19,719
Speaker 3: that's where you want to go. True, you know what, Ballin,

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01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 3: We're better than That's kind of like the old man.

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01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 18: There to you said your sleep score yesterday it was

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01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 18: a fifty six I don't think that's two bad. You said,

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01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 18: her Nut you got three kids and a bunch of

1411
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 18: dogs doing what they do. And Autie you said, tell

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01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:34,679
Speaker 18: me a random red Well, I'll tell you one.

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01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 12: From my childhood.

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01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 6: One of my.

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Speaker 18: Favorites now, batting the catcher, number six, bow d As.

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01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 5: That's right, bo d As boys.

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01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 4: By the way, seventy one sleep score today. Okay.

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01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 5: I was just about to say I got a seventy.

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01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 5: I got a seventy seven. Getting better. So I'm two

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01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 5: and zero on you on the week. Okay, I had

1421
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 5: forty seven minutes of deep sleep.

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01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 4: How about this? An hour and fifty four of.

1423
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 3: REM I had? I had one hour of REM last night. Yeah,

1424
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 3: that's huge. I basically blew y out. That's huge.

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01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 5: Yeah that rim Man deep sleep. Be texted each other

1426
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 5: our sleep scores over the weekend.

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Speaker 4: How'd you do this week? DC?

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01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 19: Okay, Illuminati, Yati, this one's for you, all right? Which

1429
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 19: of these duel conspiracy theories do you think is most likely?

1430
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 19: Voters kept Bill Belichick out as punishment for in flate

1431
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 19: Gate and Spygate, or they kept him out so that

1432
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 19: he can go in next year with Tom Brady. Well, now,

1433
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:36,759
Speaker 19: I got to go resolve my own controversy with Nancy.

1434
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 19: I call it left a toilet seat upgate.

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01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 4: Oh, don't do that.

1436
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 5: Don't do that. I'll choose the I'll choose the inflate gate,

1437
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 5: spygate film, the Bengals Gate.

1438
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:50,440
Speaker 4: Uh, you know Bill.

1439
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 5: Twenty nineteen Bengals Bengal He understood what Zach Taylor was

1440
01:11:55,800 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 5: cooking in Cincinnati's He smelled it. You remember when Zach

1441
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,680
Speaker 5: Taylor smoked Bill Belichick. It's probably what is keeping him

1442
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 5: right now out of the Hall of Fame. All right,

1443
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:05,679
Speaker 5: too far?

1444
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 13: Yeah.

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01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 7: I don't know if any of y'all heard Sam Donald

1446
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 7: talking on the radio earlier, but man, that dude's got

1447
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 7: a fan for life and me.

1448
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 12: He just seems like a.

1449
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 5: Down to earth, humble dude.

1450
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 8: You don't see that a lot with other NFL quarterbacksh door.

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01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 20: Nut can he be' all thinking about rooting for old

1452
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 20: hand grab tug, the tug or not the tug rule?

1453
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 12: All right?

1454
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:30,639
Speaker 4: Whoa? I mean?

1455
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 11: You just.

1456
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 4: Too far, dude.

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01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 5: This guy's made like three accounts because sometimes I don't

1458
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:41,679
Speaker 5: play his talkbacks. Just this is why that's that's out

1459
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 5: of bounce, that's out of bounds.

1460
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 4: Don't do that. So true story.

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01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:50,639
Speaker 17: My wife's flying the Florida this morning and they saw

1462
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:52,799
Speaker 17: cam fielder Britt down at CBG.

1463
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 4: So where do you think he was going?

1464
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 10: He was going to dB camp to figure out how

1465
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 10: to be a backup at this.

1466
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 5: Point, probably just trying to stay out of the clean up.

1467
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 5: He's flying over to get a bicycle somewhere. I assumed

1468
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 5: the license is suspended even though he wasn't driving. I

1469
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 5: won't miss camp. Taylor Brett, Hey, it's Lee Roy down

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01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:17,679
Speaker 5: here in Foulman. I'll listen to the show.

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Speaker 21: Yesterday I was polishing my curling stones and the old

1472
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 21: lady overheard story you guys were talking about. We got

1473
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 21: me in hot water. A couple of years ago. We

1474
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 21: were in Walmart's parking lot in the Great Sydney, Ohio.

1475
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 21: She was juggling samuraise to work packing for our circus

1476
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 21: event and she lost the finger. I said, hey, honey,

1477
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 21: squirrel took it ran off that way. Well now she

1478
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 21: knows they found it. No hom in trouble.

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01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I didn't know I have brought it up.

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01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 22: Let me push back on what you were saying, Tony.

1481
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 22: That list of most pressure to win the Super Bowl,

1482
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 22: Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen. No, Joe Burrow should not be

1483
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 22: on that list. I'll tell you why. This is the

1484
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:05,680
Speaker 22: inevitable byproduct of three mediocre seasons in a row. And

1485
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 22: I'm sorry. Nine and eight is a mediocre record. So

1486
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:12,720
Speaker 22: when you're trending in this direction, you're not going to

1487
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 22: be taken seriously, nor should you be.

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01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,719
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, that's kind of what I said.

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01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 23: Good afternoon, gentlemen. Gots some prayers for our good dear

1490
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:27,600
Speaker 23: friend coach Holmes here. He's having little troubles. Don't know

1491
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 23: how true it is it's on the internet, But got

1492
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 23: some prayers for one of our legendary coaches.

1493
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 5: I didn't who, I didn't see anything was he talking about? Oh?

1494
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 5: I didn't see that. What happened with By the way,

1495
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:46,080
Speaker 5: this is we gotta be careful. He brings up a

1496
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 5: good point on the internet. Did you see Anthony Munios

1497
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:51,679
Speaker 5: and his foundation had to put out a statement yesterday

1498
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 5: saying Anthony's totally fine. Yeah, because of these dumb ass

1499
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:57,679
Speaker 5: Facebook accounts that just do a bunch of fake news.

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Speaker 24: Yeah.

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01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:00,600
Speaker 5: Now, and his health was in jeopardy and everything, and

1502
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 5: then somebody called the newsroom down the hall yesterday and

1503
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 5: talking about Dave Lapham had passed. I keep seeing these

1504
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,760
Speaker 5: floating around out there, and I don't understand what and

1505
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:13,719
Speaker 5: how that happens. I did see there was a death

1506
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:17,719
Speaker 5: today that that's a sad one, especially for me. Catherine

1507
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 5: O'Hara has passed away at age seventy one. Now would

1508
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 5: you ever watch chitch Creek Austin?

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01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 4: No?

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01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 3: Okay, so she was the mom and not but she

1511
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 3: was probably best known for her work as Kevin McAllister's

1512
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 3: mom and home alone.

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01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 4: I was about to say, so that was.

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01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 3: Confirmed by TMZ that she has passed away at age

1515
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 3: seventy one. Obviously cause of death not released, but that

1516
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 3: has been confirmed, and that's obviously sad.

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01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, so be careful double check. I do see. I

1518
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:50,640
Speaker 5: looked it up. There's a lot of stuff here on

1519
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 5: New York Post talking about Lou Holtz his entered hospice care.

1520
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 5: So certainly prayers out to him.

1521
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.

1522
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 22: John Cougar Mellencamp is from Seymour, Indiana, just north of Louisville.

1523
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:09,600
Speaker 2: Uh, He, Mike and.

1524
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 4: Myself are all the same age. And I love Joey Vardo.

1525
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 22: But if if he don't be involved with Bob Costas

1526
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 22: and fourteen together.

1527
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 4: I refuse to watch it. Would never listen to that

1528
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 4: clown Costas So Go Ridge, who Go Be Blue?

1529
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 5: I knew where that was going. I hate to hear that.

1530
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 5: I knew where that was going. I think I love

1531
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 5: bobcast Bob Costas. I'm a big fan of Bob Costas.

1532
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 12: Austin, did you know that Ohio state quarterback has never

1533
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 12: been to a Super Bowl? Yes?

1534
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 4: I did. Yeah. Do you know it's been forty years

1535
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 4: since you won a national championship?

1536
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:52,720
Speaker 24: Austin ntonis boomerger from South Bend. John Mellencamp came here

1537
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 24: probably about six seven years ago. My sister went to

1538
01:16:55,400 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 24: sam He elected to play his songs in a country

1539
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 24: style format. My sister said it was the worst concert

1540
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 24: she's ever seen. Really, the crowd was showing its displeasure

1541
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 24: and he walked off the stage. So got nothing for

1542
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:13,719
Speaker 24: John mellencap He's a papas ass.

1543
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 20: WHOA.

1544
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:15,440
Speaker 4: I have a great day, guys.

1545
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 3: All right, My goodness, I love it today. When did

1546
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 3: the name Cougar come into play? Has it always been

1547
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:22,680
Speaker 3: John Cougar melling Camp?

1548
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 4: I've always heard it that way. Okay.

1549
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 5: I don't know the story behind it though. And anytime

1550
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:29,600
Speaker 5: you get the pompous, that ain't good. Yeah, him and

1551
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 5: Sean Peyton both, Yeah, a little bit of the rump.

1552
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 16: Michigan Michigan State great game tonight. Uh, Michigan hasn't won there,

1553
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:41,679
Speaker 16: I think in like eight nine years. If their center

1554
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 16: doesn't get in foul trouble, I think Michigan should win.

1555
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 16: I think the Reds should have a promotion where mark

1556
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:52,759
Speaker 16: those out the first pitch and can fill out the lineup.

1557
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 16: Carl oh Man, I think that would be phenomenal.

1558
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 4: All that I can get behind. I like that a lot.

1559
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 4: That would be perfect. Know what would be really fun?

1560
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 5: And I know that our friends at the Reds Community Fund,

1561
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 5: Charlie Frank, I know these guys. Listen, Michael Anderson, Michael Anderson,

1562
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:14,600
Speaker 5: here's an idea for you. You want to raise some

1563
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 5: money for the Reds Community Fund, you play one hundred

1564
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 5: and sixty two, Just give us one all right auction

1565
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 5: off the ability to make the lineup for one game.

1566
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, could you imagine could you imagine the

1567
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 5: price tag that that would I mean, that would surpass Yeah,

1568
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:37,640
Speaker 5: the caravan redsvets.

1569
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 4: I mean, you could you make the lineup for one game, you.

1570
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 3: Could cancel the telethon, You'd make so much money. True, man, Now,

1571
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 3: I'm I'm very intrigued by the way, not just Michigan

1572
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 3: Michigan State. Tonight, don't forget about the Dayton Flyers taking

1573
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 3: on top twenty or twenty first rank Saint Louis and

1574
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 3: the men of NKU travel to Detroit to take on

1575
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 3: Detroit Mercy.

1576
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 4: You either norse up or you die trying.

1577
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 5: What's up, guys?

1578
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 12: Happy Friday?

1579
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 17: Listening to Charlie Goldsmith got me thinking, when's the last

1580
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 17: time we're going into a season with the Reds where

1581
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 17: we have a top five starting rotation. I mean that

1582
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 17: usually takes multiple years to put a good rotation like

1583
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 17: this together. And I'm just picturing the Reds behind closed

1584
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 17: door saying we're gonna have great pitching, we don't need

1585
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 17: a lot of offense. We're gonna win on defense. Can

1586
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 17: we just invest in a bad please?

1587
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:38,639
Speaker 3: Just There's a lot of things that I look forward

1588
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:43,879
Speaker 3: to on Fridays, perhaps none more so than just Charlie

1589
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 3: and his ability to really make me think as well.

1590
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a lost arm.

1591
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:54,759
Speaker 22: You got a name Failer Goldsmith Coleman Goldsmith in Today's

1592
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 22: My Birthday.

1593
01:19:57,800 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 4: Coleman.

1594
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:00,639
Speaker 23: Hey, guys from the rood.

1595
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 20: I think the reason Burrow was not mentioned for pressure

1596
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 20: to win the Super Bowl, it's because, honestly, the last

1597
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:12,600
Speaker 20: couple of years, even though he's played well, it's not

1598
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 20: his fault we didn't make the postseason.

1599
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:15,759
Speaker 6: It's the defense.

1600
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 8: True.

1601
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 20: Now, the defense performed decent last couple of years and

1602
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 20: he still either missed or did not make an Age championship,

1603
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:23,759
Speaker 20: then yeah.

1604
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 4: The pressure would be on.

1605
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:26,599
Speaker 10: But you gotta fix that defense version.

1606
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 3: So I still want to like on the opposite of that, though,

1607
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 3: like Lamar spent this year hurt for much of the year,

1608
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 3: and last year they were a Mark Andrews drop away

1609
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:36,879
Speaker 3: from advancing.

1610
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:39,719
Speaker 4: It's a good point. That is a good point.

1611
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 25: You can't get down a hole. If you look up

1612
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 25: concert reviews for John Cougar Mellencamp, that one that was

1613
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 25: shared earlier is a pretty common theme. Also, I don't

1614
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 25: know if he's still this way, but he's personally tired

1615
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 25: of Jack and Diane.

1616
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 4: So he doesn't play it.

1617
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 25: I've heard that wait too, that's your biggest song you

1618
01:20:58,080 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 25: gotta play it.

1619
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're telling me like he will just decide

1620
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:03,719
Speaker 3: to play all his songs in like a country fashion, yeah,

1621
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 3: out of nowhere.

1622
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1623
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 5: I think this dude's like a real loose cannon and

1624
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 5: just kind of just does whatever he wants. And there's

1625
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 5: something to that. But if people, as you mentioned, are

1626
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 5: paying three hundred dollars yeah to come see you, maybe

1627
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 5: in Indiana he loved but like it. Yeah, but I remember,

1628
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 5: I don't know where I heard that recently where he

1629
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 5: like won't play Jack and Diane.

1630
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:33,679
Speaker 4: I mean, you know what I mean? Like, that's crazy.

1631
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:35,720
Speaker 3: That's like in Step Brothers when the band only wants

1632
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 3: to play nineties Billy Joel, Yeah, play the hits.

1633
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:41,400
Speaker 5: You imagine Billy Joel doing a concert and not singing

1634
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:46,559
Speaker 5: piano man, Oh my gosh, no, no, that's what they can't. Like,

1635
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:50,679
Speaker 5: that would be crazy. Now let's pour on you then, Cougar,

1636
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 5: do you like when you think of do you have

1637
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 5: like the worst concert that you've ever been to?

1638
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:56,639
Speaker 4: Anything come to mind?

1639
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:59,600
Speaker 3: Because honestly, that that would be something I would have

1640
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 3: to think about because normally I have great concert experience.

1641
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 5: Like there's one I know you're not gonna like this, but.

1642
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:11,679
Speaker 4: Uh, better be careful.

1643
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:15,680
Speaker 5: What was I'm blanking on his name? Now he just

1644
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 5: died a couple of years ago. Country guy put a

1645
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 5: foot in your ass of Red White. Toby Toby Keith.

1646
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 4: Now Toby is one of the best concerts I've ever seen.

1647
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 5: Toby Keith was awesome for two songs and then he

1648
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 5: was so drunk the rest of the night that you

1649
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:33,719
Speaker 5: could hardly understand anything he was saying.

1650
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:36,920
Speaker 3: I I don't know if I have many bad experiences

1651
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 3: at concerts, He's the only one that was like, Wow,

1652
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 3: this is I go all over the map like I've

1653
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 3: seen James Taylor and thought James Taylor put together one

1654
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 3: of the best performances I've ever seen. A couple of

1655
01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 3: years ago, and I won't say on my behalf, but

1656
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:57,600
Speaker 3: me and a good buddy of mine and his significant

1657
01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 3: other and Mayor we went up to, uh, what's that

1658
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 3: the Rose in Dayton to see Frankie Valley. That's your guy,

1659
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 3: love Frankie Valley. And the thought that I had was

1660
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 3: it would be a nice night out of the house

1661
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 3: of Mayor was she was very close to giving birth.

1662
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:18,799
Speaker 3: So looking back on it, you know, in an August

1663
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 3: concert or July concert. Probably not the best idea. I

1664
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 3: had to have her go sit at a concert, sure,

1665
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 3: but my goodness, Frankie could still hit it. I mean

1666
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 3: he was the notes, the timing. I'd talked to someone

1667
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 3: up there about like his set in their practice and

1668
01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 3: just how into it he still was, like yelling at

1669
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 3: people because it wasn't good enough in practice.

1670
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:44,639
Speaker 4: I love all of that. There have many bad concert experiences.

1671
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 5: You got a tweet here from Matt referring to John

1672
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 5: Cougar Mellencamp. He said, the Cougar came in in the

1673
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 5: mid eighties. He hurts so good and Jack and Diane Era,

1674
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 5: so then he wanted to use his own name, So

1675
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:01,440
Speaker 5: John Cougar Mellencamp came in. Then it was just Mellencamp.

1676
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 5: And Matt adds at the end he's kind of pompous,

1677
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:07,560
Speaker 5: views himself as some sort of a poor man's Midwest

1678
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:11,719
Speaker 5: Bruce Springsteen. Oh wow, so I could see that. Okay,

1679
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 5: I don't know anything about the guy, but I this

1680
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 5: is the feeling.

1681
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 4: That they're not selling tickets right now. For me, it's

1682
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 4: no idea. What's good on going on? We're done? That

1683
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:34,640
Speaker 4: sounded like a little Kanye.

1684
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, that you gotta be care you really careful with

1685
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 5: That's what I'm talking crossing the line.

1686
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 3: Yep, that could have went down a dark path. Uh,

1687
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 3: we'll take a break. We've got plenty more to go.

1688
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 3: Bob Man Jean will join us in our number three.

1689
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:50,600
Speaker 3: We'll close out our number two next on this the

1690
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 3: Home of the Bengals ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1691
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 4: There is an affordability.

1692
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 2: Let's get back in the action.

1693
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:02,520
Speaker 1: Tony Pike, since three six is back now on ESPN

1694
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 1: fifteen thirty.

1695
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back, since he three sixty on the

1696
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 3: Home of the Bengals ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1697
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 3: You know there was a lot happening before the show today, Austin,

1698
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 3: can I share this?

1699
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:18,600
Speaker 4: You sure can't, so, buddy.

1700
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 3: Of mine, we'll call him Rhino. We'll just use the

1701
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 3: name Rhino. I don't want to throw his real name

1702
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 3: out there.

1703
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 4: We've golfed with Rhino.

1704
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:27,760
Speaker 3: We've golfed with Rhino. You've golfed with his father as well.

1705
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:32,479
Speaker 3: He's a big fan of yours. But Rhino stopped by

1706
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 3: the studio today. Before I get to why he stopped by,

1707
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 3: there's another Ryan in reading. Ryan Rack is taking like

1708
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:42,639
Speaker 3: these old VHS tapes and he's converting them and putting

1709
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 3: them online to watch like old games.

1710
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:46,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know you forced me to watch a game

1711
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:47,679
Speaker 5: you played against Cold One.

1712
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 3: Now, yes, now that's true. Now, I wanted to ask

1713
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 3: you a question before I get into the meat of this. Here,

1714
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 3: Rhino on that team played defensive end. Okay, there was

1715
01:25:57,479 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 3: a key moment in the game. And anytime you put

1716
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 3: up forty one points in a high school game, you

1717
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 3: would think you're gonna win going away. Sure, it took

1718
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:06,639
Speaker 3: a goal line stand to win the game. That's how

1719
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 3: close it got down the stretch. And that mean blame

1720
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 3: the defense if you will. I had a good game

1721
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 3: that day. But if you're a defensive day in Austin, yeah,

1722
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 3: and you're playing a mobile quarterback and it's fourth down,

1723
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:20,680
Speaker 3: what would you say is one of your key responsibilities,

1724
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 3: especially coming out of a time out.

1725
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 4: You can't let him get outside. You keep him in

1726
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 4: the pocket. Thank you. You can't give up edge. Contain?

1727
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:30,800
Speaker 4: Are you telling me that he gave up edge? Contain?

1728
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 3: Now, he was also credited with the sack that ended

1729
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 3: up winning the game on the goal line, But how.

1730
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:39,280
Speaker 5: Are you going to do that? How are you going

1731
01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:41,600
Speaker 5: to say this? You set this guy up and then say, oh,

1732
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:43,440
Speaker 5: by the way, he did have a game winning sacks.

1733
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 3: And by the way, he's doing the Lord's work for

1734
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 3: us today. We love the ability on this show to

1735
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:51,040
Speaker 3: uh to be able to to to get what we

1736
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 3: call a drop and and he brought a drop for

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1738
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Speaker 3: that we have a chance to do some stuff together

1739
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Speaker 3: with these guys, because they kind of take the world

1740
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 3: of the energy drink and the hydration drink and they

1741
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 3: just combine the two. So instead of buying two different drinks,

1742
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:15,800
Speaker 3: you're buying one. I've learned so much today. They've got

1743
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:19,400
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1744
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1745
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1746
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the big thing, right there, No sugar.

1747
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:34,840
Speaker 5: Phoenix Hydration Energy energy without a crash blueberry lemonade. Yeah,

1748
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 5: sensation and you know I'm picky, Yeah, the orange cherry picky.

1749
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 3: I might drink about I don't know if I should

1750
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:42,599
Speaker 3: drink ten of them in a day.

1751
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:45,719
Speaker 5: Well you now, there's there's a good amount of caffeine

1752
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 5: in these, so the album I would advise against that

1753
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:50,840
Speaker 5: energy drinks In the past, I drink and I feel

1754
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:52,680
Speaker 5: like my heart's gonna come out of my chest. Yeah no,

1755
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 5: that's not the case here, not this. These are delicious,

1756
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 5: so in all honesty, and they're good for you. Thanks

1757
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:01,559
Speaker 5: to Phoenix, thanks to know for for dropping these things by.

1758
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 5: They're also doing awesome work. If you're familiar at all

1759
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:08,680
Speaker 5: with tunnels to towers, they they support the Tunnels to

1760
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 5: Tower foundation as well. And uh it is it's certainly

1761
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:13,519
Speaker 5: cool what those guys are doing.

1762
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 3: But uh again, I hope we have a chance to

1763
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 3: do more with these guys where we certainly appreciate them

1764
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 3: dropping some product by and letting us try that. And

1765
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:26,800
Speaker 3: for for goodness sake, don't give up outside contained against

1766
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 3: a mobile quarterback. I mean a lot of teams said

1767
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 3: that about me. I would imagine, keep keep him in

1768
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:37,559
Speaker 3: the pocket, making beach inside the pocket. And I'm just

1769
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 3: glad we had a learning point today. It's good to have.

1770
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, after watching that game, yep, you get it,

1771
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 4: You just you get it. I was not impressed with

1772
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:50,719
Speaker 4: Tony Pike. You get it? I really I really wasn't.

1773
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 3: Can I can I go back to a conversation we

1774
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:56,559
Speaker 3: just had too about the worst concerts attended. Sure, I've

1775
01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 3: got one that comes to mind, and I might have

1776
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 3: told this story if I do. You remember this worry

1777
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 3: about going and seeing Kanye West and the performance that

1778
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 3: I got, the performance our guy Maso put together. So

1779
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:14,760
Speaker 3: it was a Bengals Sunday. And this is when I

1780
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 3: had just started doing the Holy Grail Show on Sundays.

1781
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 3: And so I'm coming back from the Grail Show and

1782
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 3: I get a text from I don't know who it was,

1783
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 3: but they said, hey, Kanye West is performing in Columbus tonight.

1784
01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 4: I have four tickets. I'm not going to be able

1785
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 4: to use them. Do you want them? Like Kanye? Absolutely?

1786
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 4: I remember this story.

1787
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 3: I'll go get down to some Kanye West. So this

1788
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 3: is a Bengals Sunday. So I start putting out the

1789
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 3: bat signal and I get my brother and his wife

1790
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 3: that they're on board, and I've got one other ticket,

1791
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 3: and our guy Maso from the Ville says I'll go.

1792
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:49,120
Speaker 3: So of course I'm like, all right, where?

1793
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1794
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 3: He said, just pick me up from Algies, which already

1795
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 3: that's a bad start. Yeah, So we head up to

1796
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:58,960
Speaker 3: Columbus and as we're getting off the exit to park,

1797
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 3: he says, can we run into a gas station? I

1798
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 3: got a headache. I just want to take some tile

1799
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 3: and all before the show. So I'm like, yeah, we stop.

1800
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 3: So we end up parking and he takes this tile

1801
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 3: and all. He's popping these things like candy, and I'm like,

1802
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:19,040
Speaker 3: what are you doing? And so I'm like, can I

1803
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 3: have a couple just, you know, kind of just going

1804
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 3: into a concert, probably a headache is going to be coming.

1805
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:29,639
Speaker 3: So he tosses me the bottle and it's Advill pm.

1806
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:32,639
Speaker 3: Oh no, So he had gone a day of drinking

1807
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:35,559
Speaker 3: for the Bengals a car ride and then just pops

1808
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 3: like three Advill pms. So for the first hour we're

1809
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:42,000
Speaker 3: in the show, he's he's kind of in a good place,

1810
01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:43,720
Speaker 3: but Kanye ends up being like an hour and a

1811
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:48,600
Speaker 3: half late. Of course, now, once Kanye got there, incredible,

1812
01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 3: but by the time he got there, my guy Maso

1813
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:56,639
Speaker 3: was in a zombie like trance because he's popping these

1814
01:30:56,680 --> 01:31:00,960
Speaker 3: Advill pms thinking it's a regular advil. So he's half

1815
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 3: asleep but half zombie mode where he is still functioning.

1816
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:07,320
Speaker 3: It was one of the most incredible performances I've seen

1817
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 3: from an individual. Also, Kanye once he got there was incredible.

1818
01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:14,160
Speaker 3: But I would put that up there from a bad

1819
01:31:14,200 --> 01:31:15,640
Speaker 3: side of well, you having to wait an hour and

1820
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:18,799
Speaker 3: a half for a concert and really there's nothing happening

1821
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:22,200
Speaker 3: like DJ's playing music. If you have a show, can

1822
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:23,400
Speaker 3: you get there on time.

1823
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:33,480
Speaker 4: And can you have an opener? Yeah, that was my thought.

1824
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 3: But my goodness shut out to Mason, My goodness, what

1825
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:36,320
Speaker 3: a performance that was.

1826
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:38,679
Speaker 5: But I've said it before, I'll say it again, Maso.

1827
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:41,679
Speaker 5: When it's all said and done, brother, please donate your brain.

1828
01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:50,160
Speaker 5: I man, it's a fascinating cat.

1829
01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:55,960
Speaker 3: Could you imagine just the the advancements in the human

1830
01:31:56,439 --> 01:32:00,200
Speaker 3: world of just studying his brain and what we.

1831
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:04,160
Speaker 5: Could learn a lot? Really same for Kanye. That is true, Yeah,

1832
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:06,360
Speaker 5: that is true to me, They're not all that dissimilar.

1833
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 3: I don't know, unbelievable. Yeah, now I'm intrigued about concert

1834
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:13,960
Speaker 3: like this is what Friday's are about. But now I'm

1835
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:17,439
Speaker 3: now I'm I'm intrigued about bad concert stories.

1836
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:20,200
Speaker 5: Well, if there's one that comes to mind five one, three, seven, four, nine,

1837
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:22,200
Speaker 5: fifteen thirty. We don't have anything else to do it.

1838
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:25,599
Speaker 3: But I'm thinking, like, if I'm at this show, most times,

1839
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:27,599
Speaker 3: it's because I want to see someone that I'm going

1840
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:30,599
Speaker 3: to see and then I like live music. I think

1841
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:33,600
Speaker 3: that's fantastic. But there have been instances where someone's been

1842
01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:36,559
Speaker 3: late or or situations like you mentioned, I've heard a

1843
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:37,960
Speaker 3: lot of that with now. I had a great Toby

1844
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:40,880
Speaker 3: Keith experience because I'm I'm as Americans and it gets

1845
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:42,720
Speaker 3: and I thought, the Toby Keith concert, what is about

1846
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 3: an American as.

1847
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:45,800
Speaker 4: You can get you you walk?

1848
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 3: I walked out of that show feeling as patriotic as I.

1849
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:48,880
Speaker 4: Ever have been.

1850
01:32:49,360 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 5: He when I when I saw him, he brought on

1851
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 5: the mother of a marine who I believe had had

1852
01:32:58,040 --> 01:33:02,880
Speaker 5: passed away, and that's a really cool experience for them

1853
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:05,479
Speaker 5: and it gets a big reaction out of the crowd

1854
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:09,080
Speaker 5: and it's cool. But I did feel bad for her

1855
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:13,559
Speaker 5: that you could barely understand a word he was saying. Sure,

1856
01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 5: that was not a good look. Like I like a

1857
01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:20,280
Speaker 5: lot of Toby Kei's music is a legend for sure,

1858
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:22,840
Speaker 5: but it was just like come on, brother, like there

1859
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 5: are instances look like Maso at Augies, Like if I

1860
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:31,720
Speaker 5: go to a a Zach Brown concert, no matter how

1861
01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:34,280
Speaker 5: many times I've seen Zach Brown, when he plays Chicken Fried,

1862
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:39,799
Speaker 5: he will bring out, usually someone from the Service Academy

1863
01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:43,080
Speaker 5: while he's singing Chicken Fru and there's that moment of

1864
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:46,599
Speaker 5: you know, salute the ones who died, ones who give

1865
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:47,160
Speaker 5: their lives.

1866
01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:48,679
Speaker 4: That I get chills every time.

1867
01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:55,639
Speaker 5: Wasn't there wasn't somebody just complaining about him at the sphere.

1868
01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 3: His spear show got a lot of I think, negative

1869
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:04,200
Speaker 3: marks because they thought it was like very say satanic.

1870
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:04,880
Speaker 4: Satanic?

1871
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 3: Oh really like the graphics used and and things like that,

1872
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:10,679
Speaker 3: Yeah that's open can.

1873
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:11,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1874
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:14,120
Speaker 3: So there was a lot of pushback on that. Okay,

1875
01:34:14,240 --> 01:34:19,040
Speaker 3: I do remember that interesting. Regardless, what a topic we

1876
01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 3: can spin into our number three. Maybe we'll take phone

1877
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:24,880
Speaker 3: calls when we get back to kick off our three

1878
01:34:24,920 --> 01:34:28,360
Speaker 3: of Cincy three to sixty on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

1879
01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 3: Sports Station, wck LON.

1880
01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:39,040
Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike, Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati.

1881
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:43,920
Speaker 1: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1882
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 3: Welcome back, Cincy three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1883
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:55,759
Speaker 4: There it is there, it is. It's massive.

1884
01:34:56,200 --> 01:35:01,759
Speaker 5: This is a big day, man, massive, big day, Tony.

1885
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:05,200
Speaker 5: We have breaking news when it comes to the Bengals

1886
01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:13,080
Speaker 5: and their quarterback. Joe Flacco has been named to the

1887
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:16,160
Speaker 5: Pro Bowl roster for the AFC.

1888
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:23,080
Speaker 4: Wow. Congratulations Joe Flacco. So the Bengals get to claim him? Yeah?

1889
01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:24,360
Speaker 4: Do the Browns get to claim him?

1890
01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:24,639
Speaker 12: Well?

1891
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:27,280
Speaker 5: They had two Pro Bowl quarterbacks, so they traded one.

1892
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:29,840
Speaker 5: How about that one way to look at it? Two

1893
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:35,280
Speaker 5: Pro Bowl quarterbacks eighteen years in the NFL. First Pro

1894
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:41,559
Speaker 5: Bowl selection for Joe Flacco played in thirteen games, ten starts.

1895
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:44,400
Speaker 5: This year, he threw for two thy four hundred and

1896
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:48,479
Speaker 5: seventy nine yards fifteen touchdowns ten picks. Started the first

1897
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 5: four games for Cleveland. Was traded to the Bengals on

1898
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:57,240
Speaker 5: October seventh, obviously that classic Thursday Night win over Pittsburgh

1899
01:35:57,240 --> 01:36:01,160
Speaker 5: and the white Bengal uniforms. Flacco is the seventh quarterback

1900
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:03,960
Speaker 5: in Bengal's history to be named to a Pro Bowl.

1901
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:07,680
Speaker 5: He joins wide receiver Jamar Chase and wide receiver T

1902
01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:11,599
Speaker 5: Higgins as Cincinnati's Pro Bowl selections for the twenty twenty

1903
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 5: five season.

1904
01:36:13,120 --> 01:36:14,320
Speaker 4: Wow, very nice.

1905
01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 3: I've I've gotten more correspondence on what we were talking

1906
01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:20,439
Speaker 3: about going to the break about bad concerts, flacko, bad

1907
01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:25,240
Speaker 3: concert experiences. I've had multiple people throw Dave and Dave

1908
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:26,280
Speaker 3: Matthews band out there.

1909
01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:26,840
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1910
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:28,559
Speaker 5: I just saw the text we got from one of

1911
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:31,160
Speaker 5: our guys, Todd to wife.

1912
01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:31,800
Speaker 4: Chimed in.

1913
01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:35,680
Speaker 3: Really, she said the same thing, Dave Matthews. If you're

1914
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 3: not if you're not familiar with a Dave Matthews band concert,

1915
01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:41,360
Speaker 3: there are a lot of extra curriculars that take place

1916
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:43,880
Speaker 3: in the in the in the bleacher, in the stands.

1917
01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:47,240
Speaker 5: I heard something similar with Wiz Khalifa. Yeah, I would imagine.

1918
01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:49,680
Speaker 3: So, so if you're going to that concert and you

1919
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:51,479
Speaker 3: don't know that that's a thing, I could see why

1920
01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:52,040
Speaker 3: maybe that's.

1921
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:52,960
Speaker 4: A bad experience. I get that.

1922
01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:55,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, And a lot of his songs, you would be surprised.

1923
01:36:56,840 --> 01:36:59,519
Speaker 3: They're long songs, and there's only a couple that I

1924
01:36:59,560 --> 01:37:02,680
Speaker 3: feel like I know that are popular from Dave Matthews.

1925
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:06,439
Speaker 3: Everything else is just kind of like vibing and jamming out. Now,

1926
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:10,719
Speaker 3: how about this for a surprise. Out in the hallway

1927
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:13,120
Speaker 3: over the break, I see a guy Willie Cunningham walking around.

1928
01:37:14,080 --> 01:37:16,040
Speaker 4: That's not surprise. He's never actually live.

1929
01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:19,400
Speaker 3: I say, how many, how many, how many concerts you've

1930
01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:21,680
Speaker 3: been to? And what would you say is the worst?

1931
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:25,600
Speaker 3: He claims that he's only ever been to two shows.

1932
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:27,439
Speaker 4: That does not surprise me.

1933
01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 3: One was The Turtles, the other Jason Alden. Well, that's

1934
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:36,400
Speaker 3: definitely not surprising.

1935
01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:40,760
Speaker 5: I'm thinking that's like the backstage passes to al Dean.

1936
01:37:41,040 --> 01:37:44,760
Speaker 3: That's the weirdest two concerts set. I think I've ever

1937
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 3: heard now the Turtles famous for Happy Together. Yeah, but

1938
01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:53,759
Speaker 3: when I saw the Turtles and they saw Jason Alden,

1939
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:57,479
Speaker 3: he said, he said, big green tractor, that's my jam.

1940
01:37:57,479 --> 01:37:59,599
Speaker 4: So shout out to.

1941
01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:02,400
Speaker 5: Mostly surprised he has time to listen to music when

1942
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 5: he's not watching reading Bright Barter, watching Fox News.

1943
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:09,599
Speaker 4: Uh, Brandon, what's going on?

1944
01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:12,960
Speaker 26: Hey dudes, Brandon Manison, how we doing?

1945
01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:13,519
Speaker 4: What's up?

1946
01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:19,679
Speaker 26: Unfortunately I was a part of the most disappointing act

1947
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:22,280
Speaker 26: I have ever seen in a concert.

1948
01:38:21,479 --> 01:38:21,639
Speaker 11: Oh.

1949
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:25,479
Speaker 26: Back in two thousand and seven, I was playing drums

1950
01:38:25,479 --> 01:38:28,559
Speaker 26: in a metal band and we had signed a record deal.

1951
01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:32,520
Speaker 26: We were touring the country. We were the headlining act.

1952
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:36,920
Speaker 26: It was a super Bowl night. We were in Allentown, Pennsylvania,

1953
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:39,439
Speaker 26: and my singer comes up to me while the opening

1954
01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:41,559
Speaker 26: bands play and asked if I'd ever heard of a

1955
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:42,400
Speaker 26: snake bite.

1956
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:44,639
Speaker 10: Well, he had about five or six of them.

1957
01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:47,800
Speaker 26: Oh and by the time it was time for us

1958
01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:50,960
Speaker 26: to u go on, we had to have our bass

1959
01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:53,960
Speaker 26: player announced to everyone that we could not perform because

1960
01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:59,760
Speaker 26: our singer had suddenly become ill. We were asked to

1961
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:00,839
Speaker 26: ever returned.

1962
01:39:01,479 --> 01:39:09,200
Speaker 5: I can imagine, man Lee, Wow, yeah, that's incredible. Did

1963
01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:11,400
Speaker 5: that was that like the end of the band there?

1964
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:13,360
Speaker 4: Did? Like it was all downhill after that?

1965
01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:16,599
Speaker 26: Uh, you know, shortly after me and my buddy got

1966
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:18,920
Speaker 26: kicked out, but they went on more years together.

1967
01:39:21,439 --> 01:39:25,400
Speaker 5: Incredible Brandon, thanks yeah, thank you.

1968
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:27,200
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.

1969
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 3: Now we got another correspondence from a good friend of

1970
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:34,280
Speaker 3: the show, The Kings of Leon, But the lead singer

1971
01:39:34,439 --> 01:39:37,559
Speaker 3: was was pretty drunk like that. To me, I feel

1972
01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:39,840
Speaker 3: like more often than not, when you talk about bad

1973
01:39:39,960 --> 01:39:45,840
Speaker 3: concert experiences, is some type of drinking involved to where

1974
01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:50,680
Speaker 3: the lead singer, for whatever reason or it makes it

1975
01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:53,360
Speaker 3: incoherent at times that could lead to a uh.

1976
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:58,080
Speaker 5: Now, in the opposite I saw Thomas Rhett once and

1977
01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:02,240
Speaker 5: uh he had a really bad ear infection. Dude was

1978
01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:06,599
Speaker 5: in the hospital in Sydney, Ohio prior to the concert

1979
01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:10,920
Speaker 5: that afternoon in Fort Larmie, and he came out and

1980
01:40:10,920 --> 01:40:13,439
Speaker 5: brought the house down. I think it was maybe that

1981
01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:15,880
Speaker 5: same year of the year after Billy Crrington. All of

1982
01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:19,240
Speaker 5: us love Billy, Billy Currington, all of a sudden not

1983
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:23,880
Speaker 5: feeling well. Sorry, guys, I can't make it. Yeah, maybe

1984
01:40:23,920 --> 01:40:26,080
Speaker 5: he got a little bit of that brown bottle fluid.

1985
01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:30,160
Speaker 5: Well snake bitt speaking of snake bite, remind me I've

1986
01:40:30,160 --> 01:40:32,240
Speaker 5: written it down and you can see it in your chat.

1987
01:40:32,360 --> 01:40:36,040
Speaker 5: Smoker's cough. Oh, I got something for you about Smoker's

1988
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 5: cough that we can get to a little bit.

1989
01:40:38,120 --> 01:40:40,120
Speaker 3: We'll grab a couple more of these calls, because it's

1990
01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:41,679
Speaker 3: it's really how a Friday show works.

1991
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:44,720
Speaker 4: What's up, Marcus? Like I'm doing Eddie and Rocky.

1992
01:40:45,240 --> 01:40:49,040
Speaker 27: So yeah, my my bad concert experience.

1993
01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:50,759
Speaker 2: It wasn't.

1994
01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:53,240
Speaker 27: I kind of like you, Tony, Like I won't go

1995
01:40:53,320 --> 01:40:55,160
Speaker 27: to a show where I don't think I'm going to

1996
01:40:55,280 --> 01:40:59,200
Speaker 27: enjoy it. But this was a place up in a

1997
01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:03,800
Speaker 27: place of Franklin, Ohio. It was Ronnie millsap Okay, And

1998
01:41:04,240 --> 01:41:06,880
Speaker 27: this was three four years ago wasn't that long ago,

1999
01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:12,439
Speaker 27: and his vocals were not there. It was a hard,

2000
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:13,759
Speaker 27: hard listing.

2001
01:41:14,200 --> 01:41:16,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, when you.

2002
01:41:15,960 --> 01:41:17,600
Speaker 27: Go to an old timer like but when you go

2003
01:41:17,640 --> 01:41:19,639
Speaker 27: to an old timer like that, you're more like, okay,

2004
01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:21,880
Speaker 27: We're like, you still know the song. You were still

2005
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:25,880
Speaker 27: singing along, but the vocals was a mess.

2006
01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:27,599
Speaker 4: Yeah. That again.

2007
01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:32,120
Speaker 3: That to me, I think, just it it muddies the water,

2008
01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:34,599
Speaker 3: especially if you're excited to see something like that.

2009
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:36,920
Speaker 4: Marcus, thank you, man, thank you.

2010
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:40,559
Speaker 3: I feel like if there was one listener that we

2011
01:41:40,720 --> 01:41:44,840
Speaker 3: constantly have that is plugged into the concert scene from

2012
01:41:44,880 --> 01:41:46,639
Speaker 3: going to see folks and not it's it's our guy,

2013
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:47,559
Speaker 3: Jeff from Virginia.

2014
01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:49,240
Speaker 4: What's up, Jeff?

2015
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:53,080
Speaker 12: Happy Friday Boys.

2016
01:41:53,120 --> 01:41:55,960
Speaker 28: You guys had me laugh and and Tony, you made

2017
01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:57,639
Speaker 28: me forget I called in last week.

2018
01:41:58,720 --> 01:42:01,240
Speaker 10: Within a span of two weeks, our.

2019
01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:04,600
Speaker 28: Crew was vomited on at a concert and then my

2020
01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:09,559
Speaker 28: buddy vomited on everybody else that back when we were

2021
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:11,120
Speaker 28: in back when we were.

2022
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:11,719
Speaker 12: In high school.

2023
01:42:11,720 --> 01:42:13,680
Speaker 28: And I tried to get in that day and I

2024
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:16,760
Speaker 28: think it was late in the day, but I think

2025
01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:20,760
Speaker 28: we were seeing the Outlaws and somebody at Riverfront Coliseum

2026
01:42:20,800 --> 01:42:24,599
Speaker 28: and the guy behind us just blew everywhere. And then

2027
01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:27,360
Speaker 28: we were up at Malett Hall seeing Little Feet when

2028
01:42:27,400 --> 01:42:30,160
Speaker 28: Loel George was still alive and we were in like

2029
01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:36,320
Speaker 28: the sixth row and my buddy just projectile vomited like

2030
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:40,120
Speaker 28: five straight rows. You know, it's the worst thing that

2031
01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:42,240
Speaker 28: you can witness or have happened to you.

2032
01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:43,360
Speaker 12: Definitely, But.

2033
01:42:46,240 --> 01:42:49,080
Speaker 28: Yeah, the the worst concert I ever saw was Bob

2034
01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:50,920
Speaker 28: Dylan solo.

2035
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:53,799
Speaker 10: I saw him. I saw him.

2036
01:42:53,680 --> 01:42:55,559
Speaker 28: Warm up for the Dead number of times and it

2037
01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:59,320
Speaker 28: was great. But he played our outdoor venue a few

2038
01:42:59,360 --> 01:43:02,560
Speaker 28: years ago and it was just it was just beyond miserable.

2039
01:43:03,160 --> 01:43:06,200
Speaker 28: And one of the funniest things I ever saw at

2040
01:43:06,200 --> 01:43:10,559
Speaker 28: a concert was backstage and a Dead show here when

2041
01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:14,040
Speaker 28: Sting was the warm up band and he comes storming

2042
01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:17,639
Speaker 28: off the stage and he's yelling at the backstage manager

2043
01:43:17,680 --> 01:43:20,080
Speaker 28: about not being turned up loud enough in the mix,

2044
01:43:20,720 --> 01:43:23,559
Speaker 28: and we were we were like twenty five feet away

2045
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:28,360
Speaker 28: from him. He's just spewing profanities at this guy, and

2046
01:43:28,479 --> 01:43:31,280
Speaker 28: I'm like, dude, nobody came here to see you anyway,

2047
01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:32,040
Speaker 28: you know.

2048
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:33,519
Speaker 10: What, what what's the deal?

2049
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:37,800
Speaker 28: So yeah, I have I've definitely been to my fair

2050
01:43:37,880 --> 01:43:40,080
Speaker 28: shows across the whole spectrum, a lot of good.

2051
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:42,200
Speaker 10: Ones, a lot of mediocre ones, a lot of bad ones.

2052
01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:44,040
Speaker 4: So but we appreciate it.

2053
01:43:44,280 --> 01:43:47,639
Speaker 11: And we got mister we got mister Stapleton coming up.

2054
01:43:47,560 --> 01:43:50,560
Speaker 4: So that won't be a disappointment.

2055
01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:53,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I mean, let me ask you about

2056
01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:57,519
Speaker 5: smoker's cough. You ever heard of a smoker's cough? I

2057
01:43:57,560 --> 01:44:01,120
Speaker 5: have a mixed drink. Oh no, I like just actual

2058
01:44:01,120 --> 01:44:05,840
Speaker 5: smoker's cough before a cocktail called a smoker's cough. No

2059
01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:08,120
Speaker 5: have you You've never heard of this? No, if you

2060
01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:11,960
Speaker 5: had to guess what was in a smoker's cough, Oh

2061
01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:13,719
Speaker 5: what would you guess?

2062
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:20,479
Speaker 3: I mean, I would have no idea. It's called It's

2063
01:44:20,520 --> 01:44:24,559
Speaker 3: a shot. To me, the worst possible thing you could take.

2064
01:44:24,720 --> 01:44:28,360
Speaker 3: There are there are three shots that are like vetoed

2065
01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:29,240
Speaker 3: by me immediately.

2066
01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:31,680
Speaker 4: Okay, well, this one's straight tequila.

2067
01:44:32,920 --> 01:44:37,639
Speaker 5: That's awful, Irish car bomb and jaggermeister. Okay, so you're

2068
01:44:37,720 --> 01:44:38,519
Speaker 5: not gonna like.

2069
01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:40,840
Speaker 4: Those three things. I don't care.

2070
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:42,639
Speaker 3: If you're doing it out of the kindness of your heart,

2071
01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:45,640
Speaker 3: I will take the shot and respectfully throw it on

2072
01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:46,040
Speaker 3: the ground.

2073
01:44:46,160 --> 01:44:50,320
Speaker 5: First of all, tequila, especially a good tequila, is great.

2074
01:44:50,479 --> 01:44:50,559
Speaker 11: No.

2075
01:44:51,160 --> 01:44:56,160
Speaker 5: Second of all, you're gonna hate this. A smoker's cough

2076
01:44:57,840 --> 01:45:05,759
Speaker 5: is Jaegermeister and mayonnaise. Why why?

2077
01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:07,639
Speaker 4: I don't know why.

2078
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:10,920
Speaker 5: But I was told a story about the smoker's cough

2079
01:45:11,000 --> 01:45:13,040
Speaker 5: the other day, a week or two ago. I haven't

2080
01:45:13,040 --> 01:45:15,200
Speaker 5: stopped thinking about it since I don't want it. I

2081
01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:17,640
Speaker 5: don't have no interest in it. But the fact that

2082
01:45:17,680 --> 01:45:21,200
Speaker 5: it's called that, and then you learn the ingredients are

2083
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:22,800
Speaker 5: Jaeger and mayonnaise.

2084
01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:27,320
Speaker 4: What smoker's cough? What is the point of doing that shot?

2085
01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:31,200
Speaker 5: The mayonnaise will sink slightly and create I just googled it.

2086
01:45:31,240 --> 01:45:32,840
Speaker 4: Do you want to just cough after you drink it?

2087
01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:33,000
Speaker 20: Is that?

2088
01:45:33,080 --> 01:45:36,719
Speaker 5: Why? Preparation? It says, pour the yeagermeister into a shot glass,

2089
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:40,800
Speaker 5: carefully drop or dollup the teaspoon of mayonnaise into the

2090
01:45:40,840 --> 01:45:43,839
Speaker 5: center of the liquid, and then it says the mayonnaise

2091
01:45:43,880 --> 01:45:48,360
Speaker 5: will sink slightly and create a thick, goopy layer, resembling

2092
01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:48,800
Speaker 5: the you.

2093
01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:49,679
Speaker 4: Know what effect?

2094
01:45:49,880 --> 01:45:50,479
Speaker 5: That right there.

2095
01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:54,280
Speaker 3: If I'm thinking of an ideal shot, thick goopy is

2096
01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:55,400
Speaker 3: what I wanted a shot.

2097
01:45:55,600 --> 01:45:57,960
Speaker 5: Now, there are variations to say you use warm may

2098
01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 5: warm mayonnaise for a more intense, unsettling texture. Whoever came

2099
01:46:06,040 --> 01:46:08,479
Speaker 5: up with this is evil. I'm at the point like you,

2100
01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:11,559
Speaker 5: I get it, like Zach Brown Band being satanic, the

2101
01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:15,680
Speaker 5: smoker's cough. There's a special place for you. I get it,

2102
01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:20,000
Speaker 5: Like twenty first birthday. You want to see, you know,

2103
01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:24,559
Speaker 5: four horsemen, three wise men, things like that. My thought.

2104
01:46:24,640 --> 01:46:28,320
Speaker 3: Now I'm about to be forty. If I'm taking a

2105
01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:31,759
Speaker 3: shot or shots, it better be something I enjoy, right, Yeah,

2106
01:46:32,160 --> 01:46:34,160
Speaker 3: because like that, I don't get the satisfaction out of

2107
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:41,080
Speaker 3: those anymore. Yeah, Like I'm I'm no a smoker's Nope, Nope, nope.

2108
01:46:41,160 --> 01:46:42,240
Speaker 4: Is that not insane?

2109
01:46:42,479 --> 01:46:44,360
Speaker 3: Like I thought you were? Legit asked me about like,

2110
01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:46,280
Speaker 3: do you know what a smoke? I'm like, oh yeah,

2111
01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:48,240
Speaker 3: I get it. People that smoke.

2112
01:46:48,400 --> 01:46:50,599
Speaker 5: I mean, if you like, look this up and just

2113
01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:54,960
Speaker 5: look at the imagery, Nope, I mean it looks awful.

2114
01:46:56,720 --> 01:47:00,160
Speaker 5: I like mayonnaise. He ain't putting it in, no, yeager. No,

2115
01:47:00,560 --> 01:47:03,120
Speaker 5: Let's go to Chris and Covington. He's online. Three Chris,

2116
01:47:03,120 --> 01:47:04,120
Speaker 5: What do you got?

2117
01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:05,280
Speaker 2: What's going on?

2118
01:47:05,360 --> 01:47:06,439
Speaker 12: Boys? How you guys doing?

2119
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:06,920
Speaker 8: What's up?

2120
01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:08,559
Speaker 12: Man? Oh?

2121
01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:08,720
Speaker 13: No?

2122
01:47:08,880 --> 01:47:10,240
Speaker 11: I talked about concerts.

2123
01:47:10,320 --> 01:47:14,920
Speaker 12: I went and seen Nathan or Ratcliffe, Bob Dylan and

2124
01:47:14,960 --> 01:47:16,200
Speaker 12: with Willy and Nelson.

2125
01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:21,200
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that's last year, about a year and a

2126
01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:23,000
Speaker 6: half go.

2127
01:47:23,400 --> 01:47:28,599
Speaker 12: And Nathan or Ratcliffe's awesome and Willie was awesome, but

2128
01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:31,160
Speaker 12: Bob Dylan not so much.

2129
01:47:32,640 --> 01:47:35,400
Speaker 5: Chris, thank you, that's too now. Yeah for Bob Dylan.

2130
01:47:35,479 --> 01:47:38,800
Speaker 5: Now you talked about George straight. I've heard George strait

2131
01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:41,120
Speaker 5: is really boring because he just sits on the stool

2132
01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:42,360
Speaker 5: and plays a guitar the whole time.

2133
01:47:42,640 --> 01:47:44,280
Speaker 3: Now see, that's what James Taylor did, and I thought

2134
01:47:44,280 --> 01:47:45,479
Speaker 3: it was one of the best shows I've seen.

2135
01:47:47,080 --> 01:47:49,400
Speaker 5: I've not seen George, and obviously he's got a catalog

2136
01:47:49,479 --> 01:47:50,000
Speaker 5: of bangers.

2137
01:47:50,120 --> 01:47:51,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I feel.

2138
01:47:51,560 --> 01:47:54,640
Speaker 3: Like I just think I think music live is phenomenal,

2139
01:47:55,400 --> 01:47:56,760
Speaker 3: And so you're just gonna sit up there and said

2140
01:47:56,760 --> 01:47:58,639
Speaker 3: that like one of the best things I think Zach Brown.

2141
01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:00,880
Speaker 3: I don't know if they still do it, they would

2142
01:48:00,960 --> 01:48:03,240
Speaker 3: kind of just circle up and do like three or

2143
01:48:03,240 --> 01:48:07,920
Speaker 3: four acoustic songs where they're just sitting down playing their instruments, singing, like,

2144
01:48:07,960 --> 01:48:09,479
Speaker 3: I think that's the best part about it.

2145
01:48:09,880 --> 01:48:12,599
Speaker 5: Sure, I love some live music. Let's go to Maso.

2146
01:48:12,720 --> 01:48:14,400
Speaker 5: He's calling again, Hi, Maso.

2147
01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:19,519
Speaker 12: This show is off the rock. I love every fricking

2148
01:48:19,680 --> 01:48:21,759
Speaker 12: in and of it. Man, this is right.

2149
01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:23,000
Speaker 4: Up my alley.

2150
01:48:23,400 --> 01:48:26,120
Speaker 12: I love it, this is this is awesome. Maso.

2151
01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:27,639
Speaker 4: You have a drink a smoker's cough.

2152
01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:31,720
Speaker 12: No, I've never had one of those, but my goodness,

2153
01:48:31,960 --> 01:48:35,920
Speaker 12: that sounds awful. I mean, and I've had some bad

2154
01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:39,120
Speaker 12: shots in the day. That sounds terrible.

2155
01:48:39,240 --> 01:48:39,519
Speaker 4: Yep.

2156
01:48:39,920 --> 01:48:43,800
Speaker 12: Oh, man, man, I had some thoughts. And I know

2157
01:48:43,840 --> 01:48:45,760
Speaker 12: I'm a day late and a dollar short on this,

2158
01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:49,679
Speaker 12: but oh that Jeff brought it back with the vomiting,

2159
01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:53,240
Speaker 12: the guy vomiting. So Annie, have you ever puked on yourself?

2160
01:48:54,280 --> 01:48:57,120
Speaker 4: Uh? Probably, I can't think of a time.

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Speaker 12: I guess probably, okay, because I remember you last week

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01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:05,840
Speaker 12: or earlier this week talking about throwing up on a

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01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:09,679
Speaker 12: guy at a venue or whatever. So I'll got one

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01:49:09,680 --> 01:49:16,559
Speaker 12: for you. Bachelor party out in Vegas. We're on the

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Speaker 12: way back and we have a layover in Denver, which

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01:49:21,200 --> 01:49:24,280
Speaker 12: is about a forty minute plane ride from Vegas to Denver.

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Speaker 4: Light bar.

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Speaker 12: No, No, it was like late afternoons because yeah, right,

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01:49:33,240 --> 01:49:36,479
Speaker 12: because then it was the Red Eye from Denver to Sincy.

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Speaker 12: So anyway, we're all winding down and buddies go, hey,

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Speaker 12: we got to go to In and Out Burger, you know,

2172
01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:46,160
Speaker 12: gotta go blah blah. So we go to in and

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01:49:46,200 --> 01:49:52,519
Speaker 12: Out Burger. I get on the plane. I proceed to

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Speaker 12: vomit on myself on the plane. Okay, mind you, I

2175
01:49:58,760 --> 01:50:03,320
Speaker 12: have no carry on. I am legit, sitting in my

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01:50:03,439 --> 01:50:07,400
Speaker 12: own vomit. And they are wafted in coffee grounds up

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Speaker 12: and down the aisle of this plane, trying to get

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01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:16,519
Speaker 12: the smell to go away to no avail. And so

2179
01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:18,920
Speaker 12: I'm sitting there. I have nowhere to go, you know,

2180
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:21,640
Speaker 12: nothing to change into. Finally the stewardess comes up and

2181
01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:23,880
Speaker 12: is like, hey, listen, man, can you go to the

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01:50:23,880 --> 01:50:26,200
Speaker 12: bathroom and at least just clean yourself off. I looked

2183
01:50:26,200 --> 01:50:28,400
Speaker 12: at him. I have nothing. I was like, dude, I

2184
01:50:28,400 --> 01:50:30,040
Speaker 12: don't have a carry on. What do you want me

2185
01:50:30,080 --> 01:50:33,360
Speaker 12: to change into? I got lucky one of my buddies.

2186
01:50:33,400 --> 01:50:35,600
Speaker 12: He's like, here, here's some shorts, here's a shirt, go

2187
01:50:35,760 --> 01:50:40,320
Speaker 12: change blah blah blah. Also the lucky part. We actually

2188
01:50:40,360 --> 01:50:44,240
Speaker 12: switched seats with an older lady. I was supposed to

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01:50:44,320 --> 01:50:46,679
Speaker 12: I was supposed to be sitting like a rod behind

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01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:49,439
Speaker 12: and there were two older ladies back there, and she

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01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:51,400
Speaker 12: was in the seat in front of me, and she's like, hey,

2192
01:50:51,439 --> 01:50:54,240
Speaker 12: before we start, do you mind if we switch seats?

2193
01:50:54,320 --> 01:50:56,559
Speaker 12: I was like, perfect, because my buddies are sitting there.

2194
01:50:56,760 --> 01:50:59,559
Speaker 12: I'd rather talk to them than talk to these old ladies.

2195
01:51:00,160 --> 01:51:03,280
Speaker 12: And so if we did not switch seats those old

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01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:05,960
Speaker 12: I would have felt even worse for those older ladies

2197
01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:08,760
Speaker 12: because they would have got puked on them. Like I

2198
01:51:08,760 --> 01:51:11,800
Speaker 12: said on me. It was a bad experience, man, But

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Speaker 12: we're here to tell about Yeah, I bet I'm a

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01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:20,920
Speaker 12: better man for it. I won't be doing the you

2201
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:23,639
Speaker 12: know whatever I did three straight days of drinking out

2202
01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:25,559
Speaker 12: in Vegas. I won't do that. I'll mix it of water.

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01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:27,920
Speaker 3: My gold this weekend is to find you, Maso and

2204
01:51:27,960 --> 01:51:29,080
Speaker 3: get you a smoker's cough.

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Speaker 12: Yep, wow, Tony, Like you just said, we're hitting for you, man,

2206
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:36,960
Speaker 12: I think those days have passed us.

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01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:39,960
Speaker 4: No, I know they passed you by.

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01:51:40,840 --> 01:51:43,360
Speaker 12: Hey, But like I said, you never know. You catch

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01:51:43,439 --> 01:51:45,160
Speaker 12: me at a weak moment and you know it'll go

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01:51:45,200 --> 01:51:45,840
Speaker 12: down the hatch.

2211
01:51:46,200 --> 01:51:48,559
Speaker 4: After the Bearcat's victory tomorrow, we'll do one together.

2212
01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:55,400
Speaker 12: Oh, I like where your head's at? Okay, deal, Hey,

2213
01:51:55,840 --> 01:51:58,559
Speaker 12: if they if they pull this off, we will.

2214
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Speaker 4: Video just cough.

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Speaker 3: All right, I could think of nothing worse than having

2216
01:52:04,840 --> 01:52:09,480
Speaker 3: to sit in your own vomit. Yeah, for forty five minutes. One,

2217
01:52:10,160 --> 01:52:13,240
Speaker 3: we'll take a break, just completely off the rails.

2218
01:52:13,240 --> 01:52:14,680
Speaker 4: And now I'll tell you this.

2219
01:52:14,800 --> 01:52:16,760
Speaker 3: I feel so bad for Bob because now we've got

2220
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Speaker 3: to get this back on the straight and narrow to

2221
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Speaker 3: up in just a few moments. But before we get

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Speaker 3: to that, Austin, we have a chance to catch up

2231
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:54,799
Speaker 3: with our good friend Bob Man Jean from the University

2232
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Speaker 3: of Cincinnati, and of course novacare kind enough to join

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Speaker 3: us right now.

2234
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Speaker 5: And Austin.

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01:53:00,960 --> 01:53:03,000
Speaker 3: You might not know this, but while we were waiting

2236
01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:06,679
Speaker 3: to get Bob on the air and in, I guess

2237
01:53:06,720 --> 01:53:09,160
Speaker 3: since the news was broken, I think Bob has texted

2238
01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:11,519
Speaker 3: me five to six times a day with just his

2239
01:53:11,600 --> 01:53:14,479
Speaker 3: excitement around Mike McCarthy as the next head coach of

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Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers doesn't surprise me. So Bob joins us. Now, Bob,

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01:53:18,240 --> 01:53:21,559
Speaker 3: how are you and has the excitement settled at all

2242
01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:27,040
Speaker 3: for you with Mike McCarthy as your next leader in Pittsburgh.

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01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:29,320
Speaker 6: Oh no, I'm still really excited, Tony. We finally have

2244
01:53:29,400 --> 01:53:34,320
Speaker 6: an offensive oriented coach. So I think that, you know,

2245
01:53:34,439 --> 01:53:38,640
Speaker 6: finally maybe they develop a quarterback and not rely on

2246
01:53:38,680 --> 01:53:40,800
Speaker 6: a forty year old to try to get him into

2247
01:53:40,840 --> 01:53:41,440
Speaker 6: the playoffs.

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01:53:41,439 --> 01:53:41,719
Speaker 4: Fair.

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01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:45,760
Speaker 3: That's one hundred percent fair. I want to talk to

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Speaker 3: you today a little bit, Bob, about just travel. We're

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01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:50,960
Speaker 3: in a time right now where obviously whether it can

2252
01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:54,320
Speaker 3: be a problem, it is impacting games, it's impacting schedules.

2253
01:53:54,760 --> 01:53:56,800
Speaker 3: I know for you guys coming back from Arizona State,

2254
01:53:56,800 --> 01:54:00,120
Speaker 3: it impacted the return trip. So from my understanding, you

2255
01:54:00,160 --> 01:54:02,040
Speaker 3: guys were able to get one more practice in in

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01:54:02,160 --> 01:54:04,160
Speaker 3: Arizona and then you fly back and it's a pretty

2257
01:54:04,240 --> 01:54:07,840
Speaker 3: quick turnaround for the game against Baylor on Wednesday night.

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01:54:07,960 --> 01:54:10,479
Speaker 3: Let me start with this from a trainer point of view,

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01:54:11,160 --> 01:54:14,639
Speaker 3: would you rather have a quicker turnaround that you can

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01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:16,760
Speaker 3: get the work done, get the treatment and get back

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01:54:16,760 --> 01:54:20,400
Speaker 3: out there, or the extended turnaround, you know, seven to

2262
01:54:20,439 --> 01:54:23,240
Speaker 3: ten days in between a game as opposed to two

2263
01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:25,600
Speaker 3: or three days from a trainer standpoint or from an

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01:54:25,680 --> 01:54:28,280
Speaker 3: athlete standpoint, which one is a little bit easier to navigate.

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01:54:29,760 --> 01:54:32,560
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, obviously, if you deal with injuries, the

2266
01:54:32,680 --> 01:54:35,920
Speaker 6: longer you have to in between games gives you the

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01:54:35,920 --> 01:54:39,240
Speaker 6: opportunity to recover and actually get the kids treating and

2268
01:54:39,240 --> 01:54:42,440
Speaker 6: get them ready for the next game. Unfortunately, in basketball

2269
01:54:42,640 --> 01:54:46,480
Speaker 6: you get caught playing three games in five days oftentimes,

2270
01:54:46,760 --> 01:54:50,320
Speaker 6: and when you get that situation, you better you know,

2271
01:54:50,400 --> 01:54:52,160
Speaker 6: you've got to kick up your game a little bit,

2272
01:54:53,080 --> 01:54:57,120
Speaker 6: work a little bit harder on recovery. We actually when

2273
01:54:57,160 --> 01:55:00,720
Speaker 6: we flew down to Arizona react you were treating the

2274
01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:05,280
Speaker 6: kids on the plane wherever we flew back from on Monday.

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01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:08,040
Speaker 6: We did our best to make sure that after we

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01:55:08,120 --> 01:55:10,160
Speaker 6: practice that we were able to get some treatment done

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01:55:10,160 --> 01:55:14,560
Speaker 6: on the plane. So and again, flying when you're flying

2278
01:55:15,200 --> 01:55:18,480
Speaker 6: east and west back and forth constantly, like we're leaving

2279
01:55:18,480 --> 01:55:21,879
Speaker 6: today for Uston, so we're back into another time zone.

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01:55:22,680 --> 01:55:25,360
Speaker 6: And then we went from playing the ten o'clock game

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01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:29,840
Speaker 6: on Saturday to now ten o'clock at night, and now

2282
01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:33,000
Speaker 6: we're going to play at twelve o'clock. I e eleven

2283
01:55:33,040 --> 01:55:36,880
Speaker 6: o'clock use sometime, So you really screw around with the kids'

2284
01:55:36,880 --> 01:55:39,840
Speaker 6: bio orrhythms. And I'm a firm believer in bio rhythms,

2285
01:55:40,200 --> 01:55:42,560
Speaker 6: and I think that you're trying to keep the kids

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01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:46,280
Speaker 6: under as regular schedule as you can with treatment with recovery.

2287
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:50,440
Speaker 6: But when you're traveling this much, it's it's really difficult.

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01:55:50,920 --> 01:55:53,680
Speaker 6: I had the weather on top of it, it's even worse.

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Speaker 3: I was just say, how can you help a situation

2290
01:55:56,560 --> 01:56:00,440
Speaker 3: like that? You mentioned treatment on a plane. We're talking

2291
01:56:00,480 --> 01:56:02,680
Speaker 3: big bodies. It's not the easiest thing to do, and

2292
01:56:03,960 --> 01:56:08,360
Speaker 3: those turnarounds from a late night to an early morning.

2293
01:56:08,960 --> 01:56:11,800
Speaker 3: Outside of getting extra work done on the plane, what

2294
01:56:11,920 --> 01:56:13,960
Speaker 3: else can you do to alleviate some of that? Because

2295
01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:17,240
Speaker 3: obviously they need to get treatment, they need to get rest,

2296
01:56:17,520 --> 01:56:19,880
Speaker 3: they need to keep their meals and that schedule going.

2297
01:56:20,160 --> 01:56:22,160
Speaker 3: They also need to get out and shoot and practice

2298
01:56:22,160 --> 01:56:24,280
Speaker 3: and things like that. So how are you trying to

2299
01:56:24,320 --> 01:56:26,720
Speaker 3: make that as normal as possible? In a little bit

2300
01:56:26,720 --> 01:56:28,520
Speaker 3: more of a unique travel situation.

2301
01:56:29,560 --> 01:56:32,600
Speaker 6: You can keep your treatment time within a relative short

2302
01:56:32,600 --> 01:56:35,560
Speaker 6: period so they're not too far out of their normal

2303
01:56:35,680 --> 01:56:38,760
Speaker 6: time zone when it comes to the actual getting their

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01:56:38,960 --> 01:56:41,800
Speaker 6: getting their bodies recovered and treating. And then you have

2305
01:56:41,880 --> 01:56:44,960
Speaker 6: to work with the coach to say, you know, hey, Wes,

2306
01:56:45,080 --> 01:56:47,800
Speaker 6: can we try this, or Hey Wes, what would you

2307
01:56:47,880 --> 01:56:50,040
Speaker 6: like to do? And when can we kind of help

2308
01:56:50,080 --> 01:56:52,640
Speaker 6: with This might be the best time to travel, This

2309
01:56:52,720 --> 01:56:54,960
Speaker 6: might be the best time to do that. For example,

2310
01:56:55,440 --> 01:56:57,760
Speaker 6: you know, we'll get ready to go to Houston, so

2311
01:56:57,840 --> 01:57:00,680
Speaker 6: when we go to Houston, we play at eleven o'clock

2312
01:57:00,680 --> 01:57:04,040
Speaker 6: in the morning, so today we'll leave a little bit earlier. Verse,

2313
01:57:04,120 --> 01:57:06,040
Speaker 6: when we play at Arizona and we're going to play

2314
01:57:06,040 --> 01:57:07,840
Speaker 6: at eight o'clock at night, we miles we leave a

2315
01:57:07,840 --> 01:57:11,840
Speaker 6: little later. Plus we're picking up two hours whereas today

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01:57:11,840 --> 01:57:15,240
Speaker 6: we're only picking up one hour. But then the verversus

2317
01:57:15,400 --> 01:57:18,080
Speaker 6: and I've always found it a little bit easier traveling

2318
01:57:18,720 --> 01:57:22,920
Speaker 6: east or west to east coming back because I can

2319
01:57:22,960 --> 01:57:25,440
Speaker 6: keep the kids up a little bit later, or we

2320
01:57:25,560 --> 01:57:28,760
Speaker 6: can the kids normal by rhythm makes it a little

2321
01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:32,840
Speaker 6: bit easier coming back east. Verse, you really get screwed

2322
01:57:32,920 --> 01:57:35,560
Speaker 6: up when you're going to the west side, so you

2323
01:57:35,680 --> 01:57:39,720
Speaker 6: have to adjust your treatment schedule. But unlike when you

2324
01:57:39,840 --> 01:57:43,240
Speaker 6: played and we traveled, you know, you're on a we're

2325
01:57:43,360 --> 01:57:45,760
Speaker 6: using the same size planes and the kids can get

2326
01:57:45,800 --> 01:57:49,280
Speaker 6: down in the owls, use their normal texts. We can

2327
01:57:49,280 --> 01:57:52,600
Speaker 6: have everything's portable today that we can take with us,

2328
01:57:52,840 --> 01:57:55,120
Speaker 6: so we can get some things done, especially when you're

2329
01:57:55,120 --> 01:57:57,960
Speaker 6: on a four hour three hour plane flight.

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Speaker 3: I just think of as leet and you're kind of

2331
01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:04,600
Speaker 3: just in the creature of habit mode.

2332
01:58:04,600 --> 01:58:06,680
Speaker 4: You're in rhythm a normal week.

2333
01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:08,880
Speaker 3: You know what you normally do, and whether you look

2334
01:58:08,920 --> 01:58:11,680
Speaker 3: at the NFL and you throw Thursday night football in

2335
01:58:11,720 --> 01:58:13,600
Speaker 3: the mix or Monday night football in the mix, you

2336
01:58:13,600 --> 01:58:16,240
Speaker 3: talk about college basketball, and all of a sudden you

2337
01:58:16,320 --> 01:58:19,919
Speaker 3: got travel delays due to weather. It's just, in my opinion,

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01:58:20,000 --> 01:58:23,560
Speaker 3: I don't think people realize the habits that these athletes

2339
01:58:23,600 --> 01:58:26,880
Speaker 3: grow into and how they kind of live their life

2340
01:58:26,960 --> 01:58:29,920
Speaker 3: day to day knowing what that day looks like. And

2341
01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:33,200
Speaker 3: I don't think people quite realize how difficult it is

2342
01:58:33,240 --> 01:58:37,040
Speaker 3: when you change that schedule and when you change the

2343
01:58:37,080 --> 01:58:41,440
Speaker 3: rest period for athletes. I oftentimes wonder this and have

2344
01:58:41,560 --> 01:58:44,400
Speaker 3: talked to you before Thursday night football in the NFL.

2345
01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:46,520
Speaker 3: Now you have essentially one rest day and then you're

2346
01:58:46,560 --> 01:58:48,240
Speaker 3: back to work. That's not a lot of time for

2347
01:58:48,320 --> 01:58:51,400
Speaker 3: your body to be able to rest and get back

2348
01:58:51,440 --> 01:58:54,920
Speaker 3: to that full health. So what's your overall opinion seeing

2349
01:58:54,920 --> 01:58:57,040
Speaker 3: what the NFL has done with Thursday night football, seeing

2350
01:58:57,120 --> 01:58:58,520
Speaker 3: quick turnarounds in basketball?

2351
01:58:59,240 --> 01:59:01,560
Speaker 4: As a trainer, how do you feel about those?

2352
01:59:03,280 --> 01:59:07,000
Speaker 6: I'm not a fan, obviously. I go back to when

2353
01:59:07,040 --> 01:59:11,920
Speaker 6: you played, and you know, after you played with Butch

2354
01:59:12,040 --> 01:59:16,600
Speaker 6: Jones and Tommy Tuberville, we had some situations where when

2355
01:59:16,600 --> 01:59:19,320
Speaker 6: we were in the American and now you got football

2356
01:59:19,360 --> 01:59:23,120
Speaker 6: every night, right because ESPN wins football games every night

2357
01:59:23,160 --> 01:59:27,040
Speaker 6: and CBS Sportsnet wins football every night. So now all

2358
01:59:27,040 --> 01:59:29,200
Speaker 6: of a sudden, we got caught playing on a Wednesday

2359
01:59:29,280 --> 01:59:32,080
Speaker 6: night or a Thursday night or a Friday night, and

2360
01:59:32,320 --> 01:59:35,280
Speaker 6: it makes your life miserable. There's no other way to

2361
01:59:35,360 --> 01:59:39,400
Speaker 6: put it, because you get it also depends on who

2362
01:59:39,400 --> 01:59:43,720
Speaker 6: you're playing, you know. Probably my best story is you

2363
01:59:43,840 --> 01:59:46,960
Speaker 6: may remember a time when we played Perdue on a

2364
01:59:47,000 --> 01:59:51,040
Speaker 6: Saturday and then they changed our using game, which was

2365
01:59:51,360 --> 01:59:54,360
Speaker 6: our first conference game, and I can't remember. I think

2366
01:59:54,360 --> 01:59:58,640
Speaker 6: it was Jordan Tuberville's first year of which is last year,

2367
01:59:58,680 --> 02:00:00,960
Speaker 6: and they decided to play the Houston game on a

2368
02:00:01,000 --> 02:00:04,240
Speaker 6: Thursday night, and I send to the AD, I said,

2369
02:00:04,240 --> 02:00:06,280
Speaker 6: you know what, why are we making this change? And

2370
02:00:06,360 --> 02:00:09,760
Speaker 6: he's like, well, we're only playing Purdue, and I'm like, dude,

2371
02:00:09,920 --> 02:00:12,960
Speaker 6: the bottom line is, it doesn't matter who you're playing

2372
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Speaker 6: in the Big Ten. Big Ten is physical. They're going

2373
02:00:15,640 --> 02:00:20,000
Speaker 6: to pound on you. And we had two really really

2374
02:00:20,080 --> 02:00:23,480
Speaker 6: good starting safeties and you know, both the kids, I'm

2375
02:00:23,480 --> 02:00:25,400
Speaker 6: not going to say who they are, and they both

2376
02:00:25,400 --> 02:00:29,320
Speaker 6: got hurt. One broke his hand and one had a

2377
02:00:29,360 --> 02:00:32,280
Speaker 6: Grade two hamstring. And now all of a sudden, we

2378
02:00:32,360 --> 02:00:36,520
Speaker 6: play on Saturday perdue. We're getting physically beat up a

2379
02:00:36,560 --> 02:00:39,440
Speaker 6: little bit. And then you know, here I am five

2380
02:00:39,520 --> 02:00:41,720
Speaker 6: days later trying to put the same kids on the

2381
02:00:41,720 --> 02:00:45,480
Speaker 6: field against you know, a very they had a really

2382
02:00:45,520 --> 02:00:48,839
Speaker 6: good quarterback. Can't remember his name, but you know, we're

2383
02:00:48,920 --> 02:00:53,240
Speaker 6: trying to play Houston, and you know, we lost. And

2384
02:00:53,440 --> 02:00:56,120
Speaker 6: part of that, I believe is the fact that, you know,

2385
02:00:56,240 --> 02:00:59,680
Speaker 6: two three more days we could have had kids back

2386
02:00:59,680 --> 02:01:03,520
Speaker 6: in the right position, and instead, you know, we make

2387
02:01:03,560 --> 02:01:07,560
Speaker 6: a decision for TV that ends up we you know, yeah,

2388
02:01:07,680 --> 02:01:09,600
Speaker 6: I think we won the Purdue game. But then we

2389
02:01:09,680 --> 02:01:13,040
Speaker 6: lost our first conference game against Houston. And those are

2390
02:01:13,080 --> 02:01:18,280
Speaker 6: the things that drive trainers crazy because we've abandoned, and

2391
02:01:18,320 --> 02:01:22,320
Speaker 6: we've abandoned in common sense in order to appease TV

2392
02:01:23,120 --> 02:01:26,520
Speaker 6: and broadcasting. And the bottom line is we're putting these

2393
02:01:26,600 --> 02:01:30,320
Speaker 6: kids in probably a little more of a precarious position.

2394
02:01:30,880 --> 02:01:32,880
Speaker 6: And you know, it's like the Big Gold. You know,

2395
02:01:32,960 --> 02:01:38,480
Speaker 6: we play at ten o'clock Saturday night, which is you know,

2396
02:01:38,640 --> 02:01:41,400
Speaker 6: eight o'clock third time, and the next thing you know,

2397
02:01:41,480 --> 02:01:43,880
Speaker 6: we're on a plane. We would have not gotten home

2398
02:01:43,960 --> 02:01:46,360
Speaker 6: till five point thirty in the morning. And even though

2399
02:01:46,360 --> 02:01:50,600
Speaker 6: we didn't play till Wednesday, and you've experienced this where

2400
02:01:50,840 --> 02:01:53,080
Speaker 6: you know, you get in that late, it doesn't take

2401
02:01:53,160 --> 02:01:56,040
Speaker 6: just one day, it takes two days to recover. So

2402
02:01:56,800 --> 02:01:59,880
Speaker 6: it's the same thing that other coaches are complaining about.

2403
02:02:00,160 --> 02:02:02,360
Speaker 6: I mean, the Big ten. I'm excited we don't playing

2404
02:02:02,360 --> 02:02:05,920
Speaker 6: a Big ten. I mean, you're playing UCLA, USC Oregon

2405
02:02:05,920 --> 02:02:07,720
Speaker 6: and then all of a sudden you're playing Penn State,

2406
02:02:07,800 --> 02:02:11,400
Speaker 6: Maryland and Rutgers, and you know, I mean I've heard

2407
02:02:11,480 --> 02:02:15,280
Speaker 6: various coaches, including mc cromin, complain about the fact that,

2408
02:02:15,320 --> 02:02:17,720
Speaker 6: you know, the Big ten puts some of these teams

2409
02:02:17,760 --> 02:02:23,400
Speaker 6: into bad positions by you know, scheduling these games. And

2410
02:02:23,520 --> 02:02:26,680
Speaker 6: from a trainer standpoint and a healthcare standpoint, you know,

2411
02:02:27,000 --> 02:02:29,920
Speaker 6: this time of year in basketball, you got kids that

2412
02:02:29,960 --> 02:02:32,880
Speaker 6: are now getting sick. You know, they've got illnesses because

2413
02:02:32,880 --> 02:02:36,800
Speaker 6: they're rundown, they're fatigued, they still have other commitments with school,

2414
02:02:37,200 --> 02:02:39,400
Speaker 6: and now all of a sudden you're dealing with flues

2415
02:02:39,440 --> 02:02:43,040
Speaker 6: and viruses and all kinds of things because the kids

2416
02:02:43,040 --> 02:02:44,120
Speaker 6: are physically run down.

2417
02:02:44,280 --> 02:02:45,720
Speaker 3: And that's the thing with this time of the year.

2418
02:02:45,960 --> 02:02:48,440
Speaker 3: The flues always happened because you're in a winter, you're

2419
02:02:48,480 --> 02:02:50,520
Speaker 3: in peak months. We saw that with Sincere Harris not

2420
02:02:50,560 --> 02:02:53,840
Speaker 3: being there the other night. Sleep is so vital for that.

2421
02:02:54,040 --> 02:02:56,760
Speaker 3: And you mentioned you're you're traveling to Houston, you're going

2422
02:02:56,800 --> 02:02:59,680
Speaker 3: to get there, You're going to play eleven am Houston time.

2423
02:03:00,480 --> 02:03:03,680
Speaker 3: Your body's rhythm, your body's clock. It's just hard. And

2424
02:03:03,400 --> 02:03:07,360
Speaker 3: it's also hard to ask a college athlete to wind

2425
02:03:07,360 --> 02:03:09,080
Speaker 3: down and go to bed at nine o'clock. That's just

2426
02:03:09,080 --> 02:03:11,120
Speaker 3: what it is. Your bodies aren't wired in that sense.

2427
02:03:11,160 --> 02:03:14,600
Speaker 3: So the timing of these games is to me just

2428
02:03:14,640 --> 02:03:17,040
Speaker 3: as much of a of a nuance in a way

2429
02:03:17,040 --> 02:03:18,400
Speaker 3: of Okay, what do you got to do? How do

2430
02:03:18,400 --> 02:03:20,800
Speaker 3: you adjust your schedule? Do you wake up earlier? When

2431
02:03:20,840 --> 02:03:22,800
Speaker 3: do you get to the gym. It's just there's so

2432
02:03:23,000 --> 02:03:25,480
Speaker 3: much more, I think than people realize that goes on

2433
02:03:26,280 --> 02:03:27,880
Speaker 3: than just showing up and playing the game.

2434
02:03:29,080 --> 02:03:32,360
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, there's no doubt. And again, some of these

2435
02:03:32,400 --> 02:03:36,960
Speaker 6: conferences just do not logically think through their schedules, and

2436
02:03:37,000 --> 02:03:39,840
Speaker 6: they put way too many teams. And I'll give you

2437
02:03:39,880 --> 02:03:42,880
Speaker 6: other examples, but I you know, not it would take

2438
02:03:42,960 --> 02:03:46,040
Speaker 6: longer than this call. But I'll give you other examples

2439
02:03:46,040 --> 02:03:48,120
Speaker 6: of situations where I feel like we've been put in

2440
02:03:48,120 --> 02:03:50,360
Speaker 6: a bad spot and then we've lost the next game

2441
02:03:50,760 --> 02:03:53,840
Speaker 6: because you know, we would have to play BYU get

2442
02:03:53,880 --> 02:03:55,880
Speaker 6: in at five thirty at night, and then all of

2443
02:03:55,960 --> 02:03:58,040
Speaker 6: a sudden, you get ready to have to play on Wednesday,

2444
02:03:58,080 --> 02:04:00,960
Speaker 6: whenever we don't get back till base five point thirty

2445
02:04:01,000 --> 02:04:04,280
Speaker 6: Monday morning, and it just you're just trying to catch

2446
02:04:04,360 --> 02:04:08,240
Speaker 6: up from the game two days later. So I just

2447
02:04:08,360 --> 02:04:12,680
Speaker 6: you know, this whole conference realignment, you know, I'm not

2448
02:04:12,760 --> 02:04:17,640
Speaker 6: a big fan of obviously, And the bottom line is though,

2449
02:04:17,680 --> 02:04:20,600
Speaker 6: that people have to think about the kids, and too

2450
02:04:20,640 --> 02:04:24,800
Speaker 6: many people do not consider the kids first. And I

2451
02:04:24,800 --> 02:04:27,280
Speaker 6: don't mind saying that. I don't care where it goes,

2452
02:04:27,760 --> 02:04:30,280
Speaker 6: but I just think too many kids, too many people

2453
02:04:30,320 --> 02:04:34,680
Speaker 6: in this business now put the kids last instead of first,

2454
02:04:34,760 --> 02:04:38,040
Speaker 6: by putting us in situations where it's just so hard

2455
02:04:38,040 --> 02:04:41,560
Speaker 6: for us to treat them, get them recovered, prevent illnesses,

2456
02:04:42,240 --> 02:04:45,800
Speaker 6: you know. And so I've just you know, again, I've

2457
02:04:45,840 --> 02:04:49,800
Speaker 6: seen it change in my fifty three years, and it's

2458
02:04:49,880 --> 02:04:50,919
Speaker 6: not to the positive.

2459
02:04:52,160 --> 02:04:55,440
Speaker 3: I appreciate that you have always had the athlete first

2460
02:04:55,960 --> 02:04:58,000
Speaker 3: point of view. Bob man Jean from the University of

2461
02:04:58,000 --> 02:05:01,200
Speaker 3: Cincinnati and Novercare Bob Joy the trip out to Houston,

2462
02:05:01,280 --> 02:05:03,320
Speaker 3: and uh, let's beat these can we beat these guys.

2463
02:05:03,400 --> 02:05:05,760
Speaker 3: Let's beat these guys, and let's give ourselves a chance.

2464
02:05:07,360 --> 02:05:09,440
Speaker 6: Well, we we had a pretty good game against the

2465
02:05:09,640 --> 02:05:12,920
Speaker 6: first time. I think, uh we you know, we're right

2466
02:05:12,920 --> 02:05:15,600
Speaker 6: there on the edge. Yeah, we had a bad game

2467
02:05:15,640 --> 02:05:18,920
Speaker 6: Saturday night against Arizona State, but I think the kids

2468
02:05:18,920 --> 02:05:22,040
Speaker 6: did a phenomenal job coming back against Baylor, and we

2469
02:05:22,080 --> 02:05:25,120
Speaker 6: certainly prove that we belong with the big guys by

2470
02:05:25,360 --> 02:05:28,920
Speaker 6: you know, we we beat Iowa Stafe here. We just

2471
02:05:29,000 --> 02:05:31,120
Speaker 6: have to you know, we got to get there. We've

2472
02:05:31,120 --> 02:05:34,280
Speaker 6: got to get prepared, and coach Miller and his staff

2473
02:05:34,280 --> 02:05:38,800
Speaker 6: does an incredible job considering everything that we're up again sometimes,

2474
02:05:39,080 --> 02:05:41,560
Speaker 6: but you know we're gonna give it everything. We'll give

2475
02:05:41,560 --> 02:05:42,240
Speaker 6: it the great shot.

2476
02:05:42,320 --> 02:05:43,000
Speaker 4: Well make it.

2477
02:05:43,440 --> 02:05:45,160
Speaker 3: I'm publicly putting it on you to make sure they're

2478
02:05:45,160 --> 02:05:47,600
Speaker 3: ready to play on on Saturday at noon.

2479
02:05:47,800 --> 02:05:48,880
Speaker 4: Bob, thank you so much.

2480
02:05:49,080 --> 02:05:53,640
Speaker 6: Thanks that's you have a good weekend, and and you

2481
02:05:53,760 --> 02:05:56,640
Speaker 6: and the Meredith Keith the kids get warm because you

2482
02:05:56,680 --> 02:06:00,720
Speaker 6: know you're the weather's not getting any better. Make sure

2483
02:06:00,720 --> 02:06:03,440
Speaker 6: you get out there and sled ride with the kids.

2484
02:06:03,560 --> 02:06:04,640
Speaker 4: We will, we will.

2485
02:06:04,640 --> 02:06:07,720
Speaker 3: That is Bob man Jean from University in Cincinnati and Novacare.

2486
02:06:08,040 --> 02:06:09,960
Speaker 3: Whether you're traveling the game, walking to your seats, or

2487
02:06:10,000 --> 02:06:12,640
Speaker 3: partaking in postgame celebration, your body can take a beating

2488
02:06:12,640 --> 02:06:15,000
Speaker 3: from all the activity on game day. So at Novacare

2489
02:06:15,000 --> 02:06:17,280
Speaker 3: Rehabilitation they understand how important it is for the fans

2490
02:06:17,320 --> 02:06:19,520
Speaker 3: to be there to root for your team. To the

2491
02:06:19,520 --> 02:06:21,720
Speaker 3: power physical therapy. You don't need to let as pains

2492
02:06:21,760 --> 02:06:23,680
Speaker 3: or injury keep you from the game. Find a center

2493
02:06:23,720 --> 02:06:26,760
Speaker 3: near you at Novacare dot com today. Mwager's next for

2494
02:06:26,840 --> 02:06:29,440
Speaker 3: quick Hits since he three to sixty ESPN fifteen thirty

2495
02:06:29,480 --> 02:06:30,440
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station.

2496
02:06:30,960 --> 02:06:34,600
Speaker 2: From the Court to the Cage, the Diamond to the Dome.

2497
02:06:35,000 --> 02:06:36,280
Speaker 2: He brings the heat.

2498
02:06:36,680 --> 02:06:43,840
Speaker 1: Moegar Today at three pm on ESPN fifteen thirty. Now

2499
02:06:43,880 --> 02:06:48,680
Speaker 1: it's time for quick hits on Tony Pikes Sincy three sixteen.

2500
02:06:49,480 --> 02:06:52,680
Speaker 4: Was looking for Mo. I think we found him.

2501
02:06:52,840 --> 02:06:56,040
Speaker 3: As this show begins to wind down, we get ready

2502
02:06:56,040 --> 02:06:58,800
Speaker 3: for the Mwegar Show. What happens next on ESPN fifteen thirty,

2503
02:06:58,800 --> 02:07:01,480
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Sports Station. We have the chance to catch up

2504
02:07:01,480 --> 02:07:02,440
Speaker 3: and talk to Mo right now.

2505
02:07:02,440 --> 02:07:02,880
Speaker 4: What's up, MO?

2506
02:07:04,440 --> 02:07:05,480
Speaker 8: Gentlemen? How are we doing?

2507
02:07:06,200 --> 02:07:06,280
Speaker 12: Mo?

2508
02:07:06,360 --> 02:07:07,160
Speaker 5: Do you think there's.

2509
02:07:07,000 --> 02:07:09,680
Speaker 3: Any worry in Atlanta right now with the hiring of

2510
02:07:09,760 --> 02:07:12,880
Speaker 3: Kevin Stefanski looking back that he had two Pro Bowl

2511
02:07:13,040 --> 02:07:15,200
Speaker 3: quarterbacks on the roster and was still not able to

2512
02:07:15,200 --> 02:07:16,120
Speaker 3: win with that defense?

2513
02:07:17,280 --> 02:07:19,080
Speaker 8: You know, you think about it, man. You know that

2514
02:07:19,120 --> 02:07:21,720
Speaker 8: the Browns for years have been looking for a quarterback.

2515
02:07:21,800 --> 02:07:24,000
Speaker 8: Right We've seen the jersey with all the names and

2516
02:07:24,040 --> 02:07:26,720
Speaker 8: then on the same team last year, the Cleveland Browns

2517
02:07:26,760 --> 02:07:30,280
Speaker 8: had two Pro bowlers and still finished in last place

2518
02:07:30,360 --> 02:07:31,720
Speaker 8: in the down AFC North.

2519
02:07:31,840 --> 02:07:32,360
Speaker 4: Unbelievable.

2520
02:07:32,400 --> 02:07:34,000
Speaker 5: Do you think this is like a big day for

2521
02:07:34,120 --> 02:07:38,280
Speaker 5: Duke Tobin. It's like, yeah, I traded for Pro Bowl quarterback,

2522
02:07:38,920 --> 02:07:42,840
Speaker 5: I mean into the Pro Football Hall of Fame as

2523
02:07:42,840 --> 02:07:43,440
Speaker 5: a contribute.

2524
02:07:44,120 --> 02:07:48,800
Speaker 8: Killed that joke. Man, I'm so disappointed in myself for

2525
02:07:48,920 --> 02:07:49,440
Speaker 8: not tweeting.

2526
02:07:49,520 --> 02:07:51,720
Speaker 5: He's down there at the Senior ball right now saying,

2527
02:07:51,760 --> 02:07:53,840
Speaker 5: you know, if guys, I traded for a Pro Bowl

2528
02:07:53,920 --> 02:07:55,800
Speaker 5: quarterback in October.

2529
02:07:55,880 --> 02:07:58,560
Speaker 8: He's he's calling the people in the Bengals media relations

2530
02:07:58,560 --> 02:08:01,320
Speaker 8: department to go, hey, can we have another conference? Can

2531
02:08:01,360 --> 02:08:03,080
Speaker 8: we have another press conference next week so we can

2532
02:08:03,120 --> 02:08:05,360
Speaker 8: talk about my Pro Bowl quarterback I acquired.

2533
02:08:05,440 --> 02:08:07,280
Speaker 5: You think the Vikings have reached out to try to

2534
02:08:07,360 --> 02:08:07,800
Speaker 5: hire him?

2535
02:08:10,320 --> 02:08:11,880
Speaker 4: Maybe? Maybe? Wow?

2536
02:08:12,040 --> 02:08:16,440
Speaker 3: What a lot going on? What do you have coming

2537
02:08:16,480 --> 02:08:17,240
Speaker 3: out this afternoon?

2538
02:08:17,280 --> 02:08:17,320
Speaker 12: Mo?

2539
02:08:19,320 --> 02:08:23,400
Speaker 8: So the Bengals, you know, they haven't signed Dalton Reisner yet.

2540
02:08:24,360 --> 02:08:27,120
Speaker 8: Now his wife is putting Instagram photos of them in

2541
02:08:27,160 --> 02:08:30,839
Speaker 8: their new house in Kansas City, parts parts of Bengals

2542
02:08:30,920 --> 02:08:34,680
Speaker 8: Nation is in a in a slight panic. Bengals haven't

2543
02:08:34,680 --> 02:08:37,440
Speaker 8: made a layup yet, so we're gonna spend some time

2544
02:08:37,520 --> 02:08:40,280
Speaker 8: on that. We're also going to talk about like a

2545
02:08:40,400 --> 02:08:42,520
Speaker 8: goal for this team, and I think how we talk

2546
02:08:42,560 --> 02:08:47,320
Speaker 8: about Trey Hendrickson and one other Bengal sort of highlights

2547
02:08:47,360 --> 02:08:49,880
Speaker 8: how we need to start talking about this team. Maybe

2548
02:08:49,880 --> 02:08:52,960
Speaker 8: not now, but perhaps next year. We're gonna do an

2549
02:08:52,960 --> 02:08:55,880
Speaker 8: off season overview with our guy James Rapine in the

2550
02:08:56,160 --> 02:08:59,720
Speaker 8: five o'clock hour. We're going to discuss the weekend that

2551
02:08:59,760 --> 02:09:03,600
Speaker 8: we'll be in college basketball, including the program that everyone

2552
02:09:03,640 --> 02:09:07,040
Speaker 8: in college basketball should be looking to emulate, and how

2553
02:09:07,080 --> 02:09:09,520
Speaker 8: awesome is Joey Vado going to be as an NBC

2554
02:09:09,640 --> 02:09:12,080
Speaker 8: announcer That and so much more.

2555
02:09:12,200 --> 02:09:16,640
Speaker 5: Have you ever had the beverage known as a smoker's cough?

2556
02:09:16,800 --> 02:09:16,880
Speaker 25: Mo?

2557
02:09:18,520 --> 02:09:19,800
Speaker 4: No, do you know what that is?

2558
02:09:21,440 --> 02:09:21,560
Speaker 11: Uh?

2559
02:09:21,680 --> 02:09:21,800
Speaker 23: No?

2560
02:09:21,920 --> 02:09:26,120
Speaker 5: I don't Jaegermeister with a teaspoon of mayonnaise your thoughts.

2561
02:09:27,320 --> 02:09:30,440
Speaker 4: Pass? Would you be willing to partake?

2562
02:09:30,720 --> 02:09:31,120
Speaker 8: Like why?

2563
02:09:31,200 --> 02:09:34,480
Speaker 3: In a smoker's cough shot? Around two ten tomorrow if

2564
02:09:34,480 --> 02:09:35,920
Speaker 3: the Bearcats beat Houston.

2565
02:09:36,880 --> 02:09:41,760
Speaker 8: I'll do anything with the I'll I won't just do

2566
02:09:41,800 --> 02:09:44,120
Speaker 8: a shot, I'll mix a jug of that stuff. Honey,

2567
02:09:44,280 --> 02:09:46,240
Speaker 8: go give me the go, give me the craft mayonnaise.

2568
02:09:46,760 --> 02:09:49,640
Speaker 8: We do have a bottle of Yaeger in our home bar.

2569
02:09:49,920 --> 02:09:51,760
Speaker 8: Maybe you could do a whole picture of that.

2570
02:09:51,880 --> 02:09:53,320
Speaker 4: Try that in the five o'clock hour.

2571
02:09:54,600 --> 02:09:57,720
Speaker 8: Here's what I wonder like. If you like Jaegermeister, which

2572
02:09:57,800 --> 02:10:00,400
Speaker 8: is polarizing, some do, some don't. I do you know?

2573
02:10:00,440 --> 02:10:02,800
Speaker 8: It's obviously gotta be chilled. Some like it, some don't.

2574
02:10:03,080 --> 02:10:04,840
Speaker 8: If you like it, what makes you go? You know

2575
02:10:04,840 --> 02:10:05,680
Speaker 8: what can make this better?

2576
02:10:05,800 --> 02:10:07,400
Speaker 4: Mayonnaise aise? Yep?

2577
02:10:07,840 --> 02:10:09,960
Speaker 8: And if you don't like Jaegermeister, or do you go?

2578
02:10:10,080 --> 02:10:12,000
Speaker 8: You know what? I would like it if we could

2579
02:10:12,040 --> 02:10:14,520
Speaker 8: just add mayonnaise, not too much.

2580
02:10:14,400 --> 02:10:17,080
Speaker 5: Though, just a hint goofy texture.

2581
02:10:17,440 --> 02:10:20,640
Speaker 3: We also went down a rabbit hole today mails for experimentation.

2582
02:10:20,880 --> 02:10:24,080
Speaker 8: I like a good cocktail. Who was the one that

2583
02:10:24,120 --> 02:10:26,200
Speaker 8: decided what we're gonna do is we're gonna take this

2584
02:10:26,880 --> 02:10:30,000
Speaker 8: iconic spirit right, this shot that people love doing, and

2585
02:10:30,040 --> 02:10:31,240
Speaker 8: we're gonna put mayo in it.

2586
02:10:31,320 --> 02:10:34,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, anything with mayonnaise added is an issue for me.

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02:10:34,320 --> 02:10:37,160
Speaker 3: We also went down a rabbit hole of concerts today.

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02:10:37,200 --> 02:10:39,800
Speaker 3: Do you have we've talked about concerts we've enjoyed. Do

2589
02:10:39,800 --> 02:10:41,520
Speaker 3: you have a concert that stands out as the worst

2590
02:10:41,520 --> 02:10:42,240
Speaker 3: concert you've seen?

2591
02:10:44,320 --> 02:10:44,560
Speaker 12: Oh?

2592
02:10:44,640 --> 02:10:48,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, Van Halen in twenty twelve was atrocious at the

2593
02:10:48,400 --> 02:10:50,760
Speaker 8: Young Center. Cool in the Gang opened. When you talk

2594
02:10:50,800 --> 02:10:53,240
Speaker 8: about a weird pairing Cool in the Gang and Van

2595
02:10:53,320 --> 02:10:56,920
Speaker 8: Halen David Lee Roth had no voice. That was a

2596
02:10:56,960 --> 02:10:59,800
Speaker 8: bad show. Mariah Carey at what was then US Bank

2597
02:11:00,280 --> 02:11:03,680
Speaker 8: in two thousand and three intimate setting. I'm not sure

2598
02:11:03,760 --> 02:11:07,080
Speaker 8: she knew where she was. That was awful. First of all,

2599
02:11:07,120 --> 02:11:09,200
Speaker 8: she made everybody wait about three and a half hours.

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02:11:09,440 --> 02:11:11,720
Speaker 8: Then she came out. She was arguing with the people

2601
02:11:11,760 --> 02:11:16,120
Speaker 8: on stage. She was arguing with the audience. That was abysmal.

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02:11:18,200 --> 02:11:20,120
Speaker 8: Those are the two worst. Those are the I think

2603
02:11:20,120 --> 02:11:22,640
Speaker 8: the two worst concerts I've now. I've seen like I've

2604
02:11:22,640 --> 02:11:27,000
Speaker 8: been dragged the shows involving bands that I don't really like. Sure,

2605
02:11:27,120 --> 02:11:33,400
Speaker 8: but like, yeah, those I think to me stood out

2606
02:11:33,480 --> 02:11:36,800
Speaker 8: is Red Hot Chili Peppers two years ago wouldn't play

2607
02:11:36,920 --> 02:11:38,120
Speaker 8: under the Bridge.

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02:11:39,320 --> 02:11:39,760
Speaker 12: What we do.

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02:11:39,880 --> 02:11:42,840
Speaker 3: So we've had a John Couger Mellencamp that's a conversation

2610
02:11:42,920 --> 02:11:45,280
Speaker 3: that he at times won't play his biggest hits.

2611
02:11:45,280 --> 02:11:46,080
Speaker 4: He's tired of him.

2612
02:11:47,160 --> 02:11:50,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, so, uh, I've seen John Cougar Mellencamp where he

2613
02:11:50,880 --> 02:11:55,200
Speaker 8: has said I don't feel very nostalgic tonight. Oh, and

2614
02:11:55,480 --> 02:11:58,800
Speaker 8: like wouldn't play Cherry Bomb ro oc K in the USA,

2615
02:11:58,840 --> 02:12:03,600
Speaker 8: Pink Houses, like Buddy like, I understand that. I think

2616
02:12:03,680 --> 02:12:06,760
Speaker 8: the one of the best shows the two, Like they're

2617
02:12:06,760 --> 02:12:08,760
Speaker 8: not the best shows I've ever seen. But I saw

2618
02:12:08,800 --> 02:12:11,000
Speaker 8: Pearl Jam once, like in two thousand and they had

2619
02:12:11,000 --> 02:12:14,160
Speaker 8: a new album and they played like four quick ones

2620
02:12:14,200 --> 02:12:18,400
Speaker 8: off the new album, and Eddie Vedder was like, thanks

2621
02:12:18,480 --> 02:12:20,640
Speaker 8: for putting up with that. We had to play for

2622
02:12:21,160 --> 02:12:24,880
Speaker 8: we know that's not why you're here, hopefully by the record,

2623
02:12:25,240 --> 02:12:28,440
Speaker 8: and then broke into like evenflow and that I once

2624
02:12:28,480 --> 02:12:32,440
Speaker 8: saw Huey Lewis and the news at the casino right

2625
02:12:32,480 --> 02:12:35,200
Speaker 8: when it opened up, and you know you're talking about somebody.

2626
02:12:35,280 --> 02:12:36,720
Speaker 8: No one wants to hear anything off.

2627
02:12:36,640 --> 02:12:37,200
Speaker 4: The new album.

2628
02:12:37,520 --> 02:12:42,080
Speaker 8: So he plays like eight songs that anybody my age recognizes, right,

2629
02:12:42,440 --> 02:12:45,000
Speaker 8: plays like the entire sports album. Then he's like, look,

2630
02:12:45,560 --> 02:12:49,200
Speaker 8: record executive guy is here. I am obligated to play

2631
02:12:49,640 --> 02:12:52,840
Speaker 8: one song off the new album. I get it, you're

2632
02:12:52,840 --> 02:12:55,480
Speaker 8: not here to hear it. I don't necessarily want to

2633
02:12:55,480 --> 02:12:57,840
Speaker 8: play it. This might be the time to go get

2634
02:12:57,880 --> 02:13:00,600
Speaker 8: a beer, but here it is, and I'm done with it.

2635
02:13:00,640 --> 02:13:01,400
Speaker 8: We'll play the stuff.

2636
02:13:01,400 --> 02:13:04,360
Speaker 4: And I'm like, you know what, I can love love

2637
02:13:04,400 --> 02:13:06,080
Speaker 4: the honesty. Yep, all for that.

2638
02:13:06,880 --> 02:13:10,160
Speaker 3: Earlier this morning, I was watching a show and they

2639
02:13:10,160 --> 02:13:14,400
Speaker 3: were talking about quarterbacks with the most to prove and

2640
02:13:14,440 --> 02:13:16,280
Speaker 3: the most pressure going into next year to win a

2641
02:13:16,320 --> 02:13:19,600
Speaker 3: Super Bowl, And the resounding conversation was around Josh Allen,

2642
02:13:19,680 --> 02:13:20,440
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson.

2643
02:13:21,680 --> 02:13:22,880
Speaker 5: Should Joe Burrow.

2644
02:13:22,560 --> 02:13:24,440
Speaker 3: Be added into that. You look at Lamar, you look

2645
02:13:24,480 --> 02:13:27,879
Speaker 3: at Josh. They have the MVP awards that Joe doesn't.

2646
02:13:28,200 --> 02:13:31,680
Speaker 3: They also have new coaches, new systems in place, and

2647
02:13:32,360 --> 02:13:35,600
Speaker 3: the Bengals have relied on continuity. They They've made sure

2648
02:13:35,640 --> 02:13:38,400
Speaker 3: that Jamar Chase and t Higgins are here, which Joe

2649
02:13:38,480 --> 02:13:41,400
Speaker 3: Burrow wanted. Should Joe Burrow be more in that conversation

2650
02:13:41,520 --> 02:13:44,320
Speaker 3: of yes, there should be pressure on him to win

2651
02:13:44,360 --> 02:13:46,160
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl in twenty twenty six.

2652
02:13:47,680 --> 02:13:51,000
Speaker 8: No, I think the pressure is on the organization, Okay,

2653
02:13:51,040 --> 02:13:53,879
Speaker 8: And I think that's why Joe's not listed there, Because

2654
02:13:55,000 --> 02:13:57,200
Speaker 8: number one, Joe has made a Super Bowl, so it's

2655
02:13:57,240 --> 02:14:00,840
Speaker 8: like he's gotten over one hump. Neither of those other

2656
02:14:00,880 --> 02:14:03,800
Speaker 8: two have. You have to acknowledge that, like he has

2657
02:14:03,880 --> 02:14:07,320
Speaker 8: played in a Super Bowl. Lamar is not, Josh Allen

2658
02:14:07,400 --> 02:14:10,440
Speaker 8: is not. I think also, I think people look at

2659
02:14:10,480 --> 02:14:14,400
Speaker 8: those two teams as just better teams. Now, maybe by

2660
02:14:14,440 --> 02:14:17,200
Speaker 8: the end of the offseason, that'll change. But I think

2661
02:14:17,240 --> 02:14:20,160
Speaker 8: people look at Baltimore and go, roster's there. Okay, so

2662
02:14:20,240 --> 02:14:23,120
Speaker 8: if it was coaching, cool, we'll swap out the coach

2663
02:14:23,640 --> 02:14:27,720
Speaker 8: and Josh Allen. I think it's a similar dynamic, although

2664
02:14:27,880 --> 02:14:30,200
Speaker 8: I thought he was held back, but just the overall

2665
02:14:30,280 --> 02:14:35,000
Speaker 8: lack of offensive weaponry. I think with Joe it's yeah,

2666
02:14:35,000 --> 02:14:38,000
Speaker 8: there's pressure, but the pressure is more on the organization

2667
02:14:38,120 --> 02:14:40,520
Speaker 8: to help Joe get there. And at the end of

2668
02:14:40,560 --> 02:14:43,840
Speaker 8: the day, like the clock is ticking for both. The

2669
02:14:43,880 --> 02:14:45,720
Speaker 8: clock is ticking for the Ravens to win in the

2670
02:14:45,800 --> 02:14:48,920
Speaker 8: Lamar Jackson run the Lamar Jackson era, the clock is

2671
02:14:48,960 --> 02:14:51,240
Speaker 8: ticking for the Bills to win while they have Josh Allen,

2672
02:14:51,400 --> 02:14:53,200
Speaker 8: and the clock is ticking for the Bengals to win

2673
02:14:53,600 --> 02:14:57,360
Speaker 8: while they have Joe Burrow. But I could understand why.

2674
02:14:57,760 --> 02:15:00,240
Speaker 8: It's it's sort of portrayed the way the the way

2675
02:15:00,240 --> 02:15:02,600
Speaker 8: it is where Joe isn't mentioned with those.

2676
02:15:02,400 --> 02:15:05,000
Speaker 3: Two four years ago. Today they punched their ticket to

2677
02:15:05,040 --> 02:15:09,240
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. It feels like it's way longer than

2678
02:15:09,240 --> 02:15:12,360
Speaker 3: four years because of what has transpired since. I think

2679
02:15:12,360 --> 02:15:15,840
Speaker 3: it's that realization in the moment of thinking and assuming, oh,

2680
02:15:15,960 --> 02:15:18,440
Speaker 3: They'll be back, Joe's going to be back. But I

2681
02:15:18,440 --> 02:15:21,000
Speaker 3: think it does stand to the point of how hard

2682
02:15:21,000 --> 02:15:23,240
Speaker 3: it is to be one of these last two teams

2683
02:15:23,240 --> 02:15:25,640
Speaker 3: standing and how you have to Really, if I could

2684
02:15:25,680 --> 02:15:28,000
Speaker 3: go back, I said this Austin today, I feel like

2685
02:15:28,040 --> 02:15:30,360
Speaker 3: I did in the moment enjoy it. I feel like

2686
02:15:30,360 --> 02:15:33,440
Speaker 3: I would take in so much more because you think, oh,

2687
02:15:33,480 --> 02:15:35,520
Speaker 3: this is going to be the new normal for the Bengals.

2688
02:15:36,040 --> 02:15:38,880
Speaker 3: You got kind of I think that the Chiefs kind

2689
02:15:38,880 --> 02:15:41,360
Speaker 3: of ruined some stuff, but you realize how hard it

2690
02:15:41,400 --> 02:15:44,240
Speaker 3: is on the anniversary of punching their ticket to the

2691
02:15:44,280 --> 02:15:45,880
Speaker 3: super Bowl, how hard it is to get back to that.

2692
02:15:47,200 --> 02:15:49,640
Speaker 8: I think multiple things about that time can be true.

2693
02:15:49,680 --> 02:15:54,600
Speaker 8: I've watched, you know, Danner retweeted the sort of photo

2694
02:15:54,760 --> 02:15:57,000
Speaker 8: essay that The Inquirer did that day, and it brought

2695
02:15:57,040 --> 02:15:59,080
Speaker 8: back so many great memories. It's one of the happiest

2696
02:15:59,160 --> 02:16:02,640
Speaker 8: days of my life. It's literally the most fun I've

2697
02:16:02,640 --> 02:16:04,800
Speaker 8: ever had being on the air the next day with

2698
02:16:04,920 --> 02:16:07,880
Speaker 8: you at Twin Peaks celebrating the Bengals going to the

2699
02:16:07,880 --> 02:16:09,560
Speaker 8: super Bowl. That is never gonna change.

2700
02:16:09,960 --> 02:16:10,360
Speaker 4: I will.

2701
02:16:11,560 --> 02:16:14,600
Speaker 8: I have the frame newspaper in my basement and I

2702
02:16:14,640 --> 02:16:16,840
Speaker 8: walk past that every single day where it says it

2703
02:16:16,960 --> 02:16:20,800
Speaker 8: is us and it makes me feel good every single time.

2704
02:16:20,960 --> 02:16:24,640
Speaker 8: But I also think about the feeling after the Super Bowl,

2705
02:16:24,640 --> 02:16:27,440
Speaker 8: where it's like, you know, you don't know, you don't

2706
02:16:27,480 --> 02:16:29,560
Speaker 8: know when you're gonna be that close again. And then

2707
02:16:29,920 --> 02:16:31,760
Speaker 8: I think I've been thinking about this a lot because

2708
02:16:31,800 --> 02:16:33,280
Speaker 8: that was the coldest I've ever been. I went to

2709
02:16:33,320 --> 02:16:35,560
Speaker 8: the AFC Championship game, the second one that they lost

2710
02:16:36,120 --> 02:16:38,960
Speaker 8: in Kansas City, and that was colder than I've been

2711
02:16:39,000 --> 02:16:41,320
Speaker 8: this week, and I've been freezing this week. But I

2712
02:16:41,400 --> 02:16:43,840
Speaker 8: remember Joe Burrow and the Bengals got the ball with

2713
02:16:43,879 --> 02:16:45,440
Speaker 8: a little bit more than two minutes to go, and

2714
02:16:45,440 --> 02:16:47,760
Speaker 8: I'm like, you have to score here, like they've got

2715
02:16:47,879 --> 02:16:50,640
Speaker 8: to win it this year, and when they didn't, you know, yeah,

2716
02:16:50,640 --> 02:16:53,279
Speaker 8: it was man cool. Back to back AFC title games.

2717
02:16:54,040 --> 02:16:56,320
Speaker 8: Maybe this is the new normal. And I remember going, yeah,

2718
02:16:56,360 --> 02:17:00,160
Speaker 8: but like no Lombardi to show for it. Are we sure, like,

2719
02:17:00,240 --> 02:17:03,280
Speaker 8: are we sure that they didn't let their best chance

2720
02:17:03,560 --> 02:17:06,120
Speaker 8: get past them? And to this point they have, And

2721
02:17:06,200 --> 02:17:09,720
Speaker 8: so I think it'll be really interesting if the Bengals

2722
02:17:09,720 --> 02:17:11,920
Speaker 8: get to the Super Bowl in the next couple of years.

2723
02:17:12,400 --> 02:17:14,960
Speaker 8: It's gonna be talked about a lot differently, Right, It's

2724
02:17:15,240 --> 02:17:18,040
Speaker 8: not gonna be so much like and trust me, it

2725
02:17:18,120 --> 02:17:20,400
Speaker 8: is so hard. You're right, it is so hard.

2726
02:17:20,200 --> 02:17:20,760
Speaker 4: To get there.

2727
02:17:21,120 --> 02:17:23,600
Speaker 8: But let's just say this coming season, the Bengals make

2728
02:17:23,640 --> 02:17:26,600
Speaker 8: the Super Bowl and lose. I don't know that it's

2729
02:17:26,600 --> 02:17:29,440
Speaker 8: gonna be aw shucks, Like. We'll appreciate what it took

2730
02:17:29,520 --> 02:17:31,680
Speaker 8: to get there. Sure, we'll enjoy the fact that the

2731
02:17:31,680 --> 02:17:35,200
Speaker 8: Bengals went from three straight non playoff years to playing

2732
02:17:35,240 --> 02:17:38,240
Speaker 8: for the whole thing. But the Borough Era is only

2733
02:17:38,320 --> 02:17:40,959
Speaker 8: a real success if they win one. That's why they

2734
02:17:41,080 --> 02:17:43,800
Speaker 8: drafted him. That's why they drafted him number one overall.

2735
02:17:44,440 --> 02:17:47,760
Speaker 8: And with each passing year that they don't, it's gonna

2736
02:17:47,760 --> 02:17:52,080
Speaker 8: feel more and more like the likelihood is that the

2737
02:17:52,120 --> 02:17:54,760
Speaker 8: Borough Era comes and goes without them winning one. And

2738
02:17:54,800 --> 02:17:57,720
Speaker 8: that's what we're gonna talk about most when we talk

2739
02:17:57,760 --> 02:17:58,640
Speaker 8: about the Joe Era.

2740
02:17:59,240 --> 02:18:02,680
Speaker 3: Well, we appreciate, have a great show and have the

2741
02:18:03,120 --> 02:18:06,359
Speaker 3: yagger and mayonnaise ready tomorrow around two fifteen.

2742
02:18:07,040 --> 02:18:11,960
Speaker 8: Okay, I will, I'll FaceTime you deal and well we'll

2743
02:18:12,200 --> 02:18:13,199
Speaker 8: should I wait together?

2744
02:18:13,240 --> 02:18:14,840
Speaker 3: Should I wait to get the ingredients or just get

2745
02:18:14,879 --> 02:18:18,119
Speaker 3: him now? On the way home, well.

2746
02:18:17,959 --> 02:18:19,920
Speaker 8: I mean, you can't do it at two fifteen if

2747
02:18:19,920 --> 02:18:20,800
Speaker 8: you don't have them already.

2748
02:18:20,840 --> 02:18:23,959
Speaker 4: All right, so exactly all right, what's got to happen

2749
02:18:24,000 --> 02:18:24,400
Speaker 4: at some point?

2750
02:18:24,480 --> 02:18:25,240
Speaker 8: Both ingredients?

2751
02:18:25,600 --> 02:18:31,480
Speaker 3: Yes, thank you Mo, and great show we are, We're done.

2752
02:18:31,800 --> 02:18:35,920
Speaker 3: What a thoroughly enjoyable Friday. Hope you hope you enjoyed

2753
02:18:35,920 --> 02:18:39,600
Speaker 3: it had Thanks for listening along. Have a great Friday,

2754
02:18:39,640 --> 02:18:43,480
Speaker 3: have a great weekend well. Egar is next on ESPN

2755
02:18:43,560 --> 02:18:53,280
Speaker 3: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, I wish