1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:00,560 Speaker 1: Talk. 2 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 2: This is sports with soul, sweat and swagger. Tony Pike 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: SINXY three sixty Tomorrow at twelve noon on ESPN fifteen thirty. 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: This is Football in the NATI, brought to you by 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: Modern Office Methods on ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home 6 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: of the Cincinnati Bengals. 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 3: All Right, our guys, Sean Sayed from the Stats and 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 3: Scheme newsletter from Summer Sports dot Com, is joining us. 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 3: He's typically with us at five twenty. But our show's 10 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 3: done early today at five o'clock. Really quick. Before we 11 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 3: get to Sean. This had been talked about in high 12 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 3: school football circles for at least since Sunday, but the 13 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 3: elder sayin next game is officially being moved to the 14 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 3: venue originally known as Paul Brown Stadium. It's going to 15 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 3: take place on Friday evening. If you already had tickets 16 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 3: for the game at Mason High School, they will honor 17 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 3: those tickets. You could order tickets for the game at 18 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 3: OHSAA dot org slash tickets. They go on sale tomorrow 19 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 3: at ten o'clock. They're going to make an incremental twenty 20 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 3: thousand tickets available for sale. Kickoff is going to be 21 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 3: at seven o'clock. They'll sell parking all of that stuff. 22 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 3: So the elder say, next game, which students really didn't 23 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 3: have access to because they went on sale while kids 24 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 3: were in school, game was going to be at Mason 25 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 3: High School. They are going to play it at PBS 26 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 3: and again, get tickets at OHSAA dot org. Our guy, 27 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,279 Speaker 3: Sean Side is with US stats and scheme newsletter suomer 28 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 3: sports dot com, which, by the way, make sure to 29 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 3: check out sumer Brain. Sean, It's it's Groundhog Day for 30 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 3: you and I. But it's good to have you. How 31 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 3: are you? 32 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: Oh, it's great, you know, it was fun to hear 33 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,199 Speaker 1: you talk about that high school football game. I obviously 34 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: hope that all those people that end up going to 35 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: that see some better tackling than what we have to 36 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: talk about on a weekly basis. 37 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 3: Better tackling and better effort. Like that's I think for 38 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: a lot of us the big takeaway from Pittsburgh. You 39 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 3: can come up with whatever schemes you want. When you 40 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 3: have players who are allergic to contact, it doesn't matter. 41 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: I think you know, you see some effort, good effort 42 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: from Miles Murphy, like you're excited to see. Okay, this 43 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: could be a player that's part of your defense kind 44 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: of in the long haul, but absolutely, like I would 45 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: love to come here and talk about, oh, this is 46 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: the cool scheme that would work in this situation. But 47 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: really on the defensive end, there were some fun things 48 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: that the Steelers did on defense in this game. I 49 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: will say to combat the Bengals, but yeah, on the 50 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: defensive end, gonna need a little bit better I think 51 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: from this Bengals defense. 52 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 3: Let's talk about some of the things that Pittsburgh did 53 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 3: do because the first time these two teams played, the 54 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 3: Steelers state and man defense and Jamar Chase and t 55 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 3: Higgins burned them. This time around, totally different game plan, 56 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 3: and it felt like the Bengals had no answer. 57 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: Absolutely, it felt like you get to some of those smarter, 58 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: too high safety type looks where if you even get 59 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: situations where it's kind of like man converage, but then 60 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: both of the stacies are also brackening Higgins and Chase, 61 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: and you go through the history of how teams have 62 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: tried to deal with the Bengals at their peak, and 63 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: that is I think the right way to do it. 64 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: I remember the Chargers trying it against them, and then 65 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: you get a double move. I think it was Higgins 66 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: that ended up on a touchdown. I believe that was 67 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: last year. Maybe it was the year before that, but 68 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: that is it makes sense, like this is how you 69 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 1: attack an offense that is built fully through their two 70 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: really really good wide receiver. Then I'm not saying it's 71 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: a bad thing, like you want to have an offense 72 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: built through two really good receivers. But it does make 73 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: me think a little bit, like you had actually brought 74 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: it up last week, like oh do you think like 75 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: now we look at Burrow and think, oh, well, how 76 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: do you take some of the things from this new 77 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: offensive approach? It might just be me like racking my 78 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: head over and over. We'll watching this kind of saying 79 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: game happen over and over. But I'm really really curious 80 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: what kind of changes does this offense make when I'm 81 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: watching a team like the Bills fully transform their identity, 82 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: like really really change in a specific way to I 83 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: think help their quarterback and kind of remove some offense play. 84 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated to see when Burrow comes back healthy, are 85 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: you adjusting your game a little bit? I think maybe 86 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: get a little bit better with modern defenses. 87 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 3: I also feel like, can you could tell me if 88 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 3: the tape matches this, and this is not the first 89 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 3: time we've talked about it. I feel like, let's assume 90 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 3: Joe plays a week from Thursday. He is going to 91 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 3: be playing behind an offensive line that is better than 92 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: the one that he played behind the first two games. 93 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: And I mean, yeah, not an offensive line that we're 94 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 1: hanging in the rafters of our time talking together. I 95 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: don't want to say that by any means, but I 96 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: think you get some solid effort. I kind of enjoyed 97 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: a little bit of what you've seen from Fairtrial at 98 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: different points along this season. So you have guys healthy now. 99 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: I mean next week, obviously we know that Jamar Chase 100 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: won't be there, but you have parts of a run 101 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: game that like, I hang onto this every week when 102 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: I know that I have to turn on the tape, 103 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: I know I'm going to get something from I got 104 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: Chase brand every week. I just know I'm going to 105 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: see something that I like there. So I think then 106 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: it becomes a comment on as a coaching staff, can 107 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: you really you kind of have to sell I think 108 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: Joe a little bit and say this is the offense 109 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: that's going to put us in a position to succeed consistently. 110 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: And I think Burrow could also say, Hey, look, I'm 111 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: one of the best quarterbacks in this league. You don't 112 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: need to draw up all that funky under center stuff 113 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: or anything like that. Like I can just win over 114 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: and over. But I'm like, I just I want to 115 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: see I think I want to see this team evolve. 116 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: I think it'll be more fun for us talking every week. 117 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: But also just as teams continue to approach this offense 118 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: and say, look, like, do you want to win jump 119 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: balls with See Higgins and Jamar Chase every time? No, 120 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: but you're going to run into games where defense is 121 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: find a way to double team those guys, and then 122 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: you just don't have answers outside of that. 123 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 3: Uh. The Patriots on one of the more fun stories 124 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 3: in the NFL. Everybody believes in like Vrabel, everybody believes 125 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 3: in Drake May. What are they doing schematically that has 126 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 3: allowed them to overachieve at least to this point this season. 127 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: So this is a great example because I think that 128 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: Josh mccamas is Austin Drake May to do like every 129 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: single thing in the playoffs, He's getting under center, he's 130 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: taking those deeper drop backs. He's using play action, and 131 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: so you see Drake May really highlighted because he is 132 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: using every single little skill that he hacks. I think 133 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow can do absolutely everything. So I would be 134 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: curious if you get him kind of in a situation 135 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: like the Patriots, where one thing I love about the Patriots, 136 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: and we'll see this in the game, is whatever Drake 137 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: May drops back, you just know exactly where he's going 138 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: to be. It's very predictable, it's very close in a 139 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: good way, and that the offensive tackles their lives are 140 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: made easier because their quarterback's dropping to the same spot. 141 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: He's not drifting, he's not falling back. He's in a 142 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: really really clean spot. And then he can also make 143 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: plays against pressure, like what we saw on Thursday Nights 144 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: against the Jets. So do I think this team is 145 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: the best team in the AFC. I mean no, I don't, 146 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: but there I think a lot better than what they 147 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: expected to be this year. They have the absolute chance 148 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: to win the division, which I think is is pretty 149 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: well and maybe even be that number one seed in 150 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: the AFC. 151 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 3: How does a bad defense combat what they're doing? Uh? 152 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: No, The a question It's like it's I just want 153 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: to see better tackling, right, because the Patriots run game 154 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: is not this like running game that should that is 155 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: like changing football in any sort of way, right, Like 156 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: a lot of what's happening in their success is because 157 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: of Drake May making these nice passes, and so like 158 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: I keep thinking about it, like, oh, like, what does 159 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: change in the defensive coordinator or the defensive play caller 160 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: really do at this point? I mean, can you literally 161 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: get these guys to tackle better? Like so that that 162 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: to me is the best situation where I do think 163 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: we've actually seen the Patriots have some success with their receivers. 164 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: We see the make connection two digs a little bit 165 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: more then I think maybe what we had even expacted 166 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: going into this year. So I don't feel like they 167 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: have like overwhelming receivers that will like they don't have 168 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: Chase and Higgins, right, they obviously don't, and so they're 169 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: not morphing the field in that way. But they just 170 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: like are so consistent, Chris clean and good at what 171 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: they do. 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