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Speaker 2: fifty five krsee Morning show. Congressman Warren Davidson, Welcome back,

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Speaker 2: my friend. Pleasure having you on the show.

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Speaker 1: Brian's always an honor, great to talk with you.

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Speaker 2: Let us dive on into Well, we're still in a shutdown,

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Speaker 2: said a voted again said no. Democrats are insisting that

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Speaker 2: we extend the COVID area era, basically premium supplements covering

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Speaker 2: the American taxpayers covering the cost of the Obamacare premiums,

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Speaker 2: which was successfully expanded the program. They doubled the size

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Speaker 2: of the Obamacare folks during COVID nineteen. But that was

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Speaker 2: the predicate for allowing these supplements. COVID nineteen. Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: we're all going to die. Businesses are shut down. People

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Speaker 2: need relief. Let's give them free insurance, which isn't really free. Well,

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Speaker 2: that period of time has gone yet the Democrats and

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Speaker 2: an obvious effort to get everyone under one size fits

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Speaker 2: They're fighting and that looks like they're going to die

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Speaker 2: on this hill? Or are they? Congressman Davidson, what's your

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Speaker 2: assessment on this? I know you had some very strong

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Speaker 2: are we on this, Congressman Davidson, Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 1: That's basically it. Democrats could have chosen to just keep

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Speaker 1: the funding level that they helped implement. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: different funding goal. We've had lots of debates about it.

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Speaker 1: But that's the whole point is we could continue having

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Speaker 1: with a government that's open, or we could have this shutdown.

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Speaker 1: And you know, Democrats decided that they were going to

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Speaker 1: In the Senate, we passed it out of the House

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Speaker 1: but you need four more Democrats frankly, to join and

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Speaker 1: need less government, we need a budget that balances. Democrats said, no,

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Speaker 1: if you don't give us a one and a half

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Speaker 1: It was failing in twenty twenty one, and they used

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Speaker 1: And it's like, no, you know, I'm almost tempted to say,

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Speaker 1: helping people get lower health insurance. Now it benefits to

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Speaker 1: going to finally concede that Obamacare didn't work? And Democrats

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Speaker 2: Got, Yes, they do. And you know it's funny because

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Speaker 2: I mean, the American people aren't seeing any of that.

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Speaker 2: So it is it is continued to sport. But it's not.

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Speaker 2: They haven't gone away. I think that's really critical point here.

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Speaker 2: It's not. It doesn't become free just because the government says, well,

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Speaker 2: The American taxpayers covering the nut of the premium. That's

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Speaker 1: That portions hundreds of billions. They've got all kinds of

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Speaker 1: So you know, I hope we put single things in there,

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Speaker 2: That's a good idea, Congressman Davidson. But now, what of

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Speaker 2: An opportunity to reduce the size and scope of government,

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Speaker 2: the who's responsible for this shutdown argument? Aha? See, the

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Speaker 2: only pretext for this is Republicans want to cut out

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Speaker 2: you could wear that as a badge of honor. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I did shut the government down for the purposes of

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Speaker 2: getting it smaller. We campaigned on doing exactly that.

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Speaker 1: Well that's the thing. Look, I voted for the CRS

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Speaker 1: start aligning a budget with our priorities. Well good, that's

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Speaker 1: exactly what we've been fighting to do. With the appropriations process.

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Speaker 1: I think forty six percent. I want the whole place closed.

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Speaker 1: But you know, it's a good start to get rid

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Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more. It seems to me that you know,

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Speaker 2: a lot of jobs out in the world are threatened

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Speaker 2: by artificial intelligence, Congressman Davidson, isn't that sort of a

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Speaker 1: Personally, No, the status quo is completely broken, and I

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Speaker 1: ten x them. Whatever proof once and for all that

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Speaker 1: And we're seeing that in the areas that you subsidize.

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Speaker 1: two trillion more than we then we generate in revenue.

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Speaker 1: How do you not have inflation? And for some reason

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Speaker 2: That's a failure of the US education system. I would

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Speaker 2: argue anyhow, will continue the Congress More and Davidson. Peace

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Speaker 1: I think Donald Trump has been very clear that his

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Speaker 2: And part of me wants to believe the Democrats are

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Speaker 2: Giving Donald Trump specific praise for his efforts along these lines.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what makes them lose their minds over it.

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Speaker 2: These days, no question about it. Well, and the other

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Speaker 1: That was very intentionally not included in this because there's

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Speaker 1: And so it looks like they're well underway towards that

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Speaker 2: Amen to that, Congressman Warren Davidson, I certainly appreciate your

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Speaker 2: We need more people like Congressman Warren Davidson, and I

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Speaker 2: want to thank all of your voters for putting you

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Speaker 2: you here in the fifty five Garrissey Morning. Should Congressman Davidson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, always an honor. Thanks Brian, God bless you and

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Speaker 2: Right back at you. Coming up next, Senator Ran Paul