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Speaker 1: that's me Joy Vampire, Joy Vampire.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't realize you had that. I stepped all

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Speaker 2: over my own intro. That's me joy Vampire. You the

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Speaker 2: gonna be the most fun Kia sports have ever been

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Speaker 1: I can't believe I gave you that, and I said

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Speaker 1: it in it when I said it last night, Oh,

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Speaker 1: you were being sarcastic.

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Speaker 2: But it works out perfectly because there's no context of

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Speaker 1: No I know I wuz being sarcastic, and yet the

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Speaker 1: some fun with that when he comes back five six,

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Speaker 1: six nights zero or kawe comma spirital text line. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna hope to catch up with Gary Bowles here in

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Speaker 1: on Tuesdays. We also, of course have Shelby Harris. You've

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Speaker 1: do that at four thirty. And then of course Rod

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Speaker 1: dismissively and studio to celebrate another victory Tuesday as the

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Speaker 1: Broncos keep rolling up. Before we get into any of that,

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Speaker 1: I want to start with last night's game. We got

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Speaker 1: to get to the Philip Rivers stuff too, as he's

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Speaker 1: back old man Rivers, old Man Rivers, Grandpa Rivers is batteral,

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Speaker 1: he did very nice, very nice. We're gonna get into

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Speaker 1: the implications of all of it because it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. Listen if Philip Rivers can. But you know,

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Speaker 1: let's just talk about now. So all the reports out

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Speaker 2: He's also forty four years old, a grandfather. His uh

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Speaker 1: He last played in the league, what four years ago?

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Speaker 1: The offense, he's a high school football coach. The offense

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Speaker 2: I don't expect him to Anthony Richardson and uh, well

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Speaker 1: Garrett a friend. Good to catch up with you. Another win.

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Speaker 1: How are you, sir? I'm doing good, brother, How are

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Speaker 3: Never gets old when you sweep the Raiders. You know

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Speaker 3: And you know, obviously we did a lot of good

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Speaker 1: Us, Garret.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw this, but the Colts

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Speaker 1: Do, no doubt about it. You guys have a big

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Speaker 1: do you hear me? Yeah? We got you, We got you.

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Speaker 1: We got you. Hey, last couple for you. Man, always

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. So, you guys have been on a tear

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Speaker 1: You shouldn't do this. She might though she's obviously made

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Speaker 1: just trying to win the game, is he though? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.

432
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Speaker 2: I wagered Broncos minus six and a half Raiders plus fourteen.

433
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Speaker 1: So for all you people out there that they were idiots, there,

434
00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,640
Speaker 1: I middled it. All you people out there, they're idiots.

435
00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,960
Speaker 1: So all right, so we'll get to all that couple

436
00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,760
Speaker 1: of period Shelby Harris Joyce is at four thirty. Rod

437
00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,600
Speaker 1: Smith will be in studio after five o'clock loaning forward

438
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Speaker 1: all that. Benjamin all right, right edwards, This is Koa.

439
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Speaker 3: That's pretty awesome. I got to play against him a

440
00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,320
Speaker 3: couple of times, you know, watching him and his career. Obviously,

441
00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,159
Speaker 3: you know he still thinks he can have some football

442
00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,159
Speaker 3: left in him. So you know, kudas to him to

443
00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,000
Speaker 3: come back at that age. But it's cool man to

444
00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:34,679
Speaker 3: come back and to be with the youth and to

445
00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,920
Speaker 3: be a mental for everyone. It's a really cool thing

446
00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:38,639
Speaker 3: for the game, and I'm excited to see what he

447
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Speaker 3: can do.

448
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Speaker 1: As I understand it. His because he was up for

449
00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,159
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. He was going to be uh ye,

450
00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,000
Speaker 1: semi finalists I think next year or something like that.

451
00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,639
Speaker 1: But the point is is that he is that would

452
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Speaker 1: reset once he becomes an active roster player, and you

453
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Speaker 1: believe he's going to be that.

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Speaker 3: I do.

455
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Speaker 1: I believe he'll be an actual ruster player. I believe

456
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Speaker 1: he will pl multiple games for the Colts this year.

457
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Speaker 1: So there is there no scenario in your mind that

458
00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,560
Speaker 1: Riley Leonard in this matchup against I mean, it's Seattle,

459
00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,359
Speaker 1: it's a tough, tough matchup, but Riley Leonard could do

460
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Speaker 1: something to earn the job and then they say, you know,

461
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Speaker 1: we'll wait a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you beat the Seattle defense, one of

463
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Speaker 2: the top three defenses in the league, is even though

464
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 2: you're hurt, injured and hurt, and you know, have how

465
00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:25,920
Speaker 2: many snaps under your belt? Like, I'm not gonna be

466
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Speaker 2: surprised if Phil Rivers comes into this game this week

467
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:29,919
Speaker 2: just to get him some snaps late and you know,

468
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Speaker 2: late in the fourth and get him ready for the

469
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Speaker 2: next couple of games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, at Seattle, that is a that's a tough draw.

471
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Speaker 1: What the line on that is right now? Just out

472
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Speaker 1: of curiosity.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen and a half disgusting yeah, God, it's just ridiculous.

474
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Speaker 1: I was I was gonna guess around eight or nine

475
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Speaker 1: because Indianapolis is still like constructurally a good team, but

476
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Speaker 1: not not in this case. I guess not now when

477
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Speaker 1: you take out the quarterback and you put Riley Leonard in.

478
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Speaker 2: Philip Rivers was thirty six years old when Garrett Bowles

479
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:01,919
Speaker 2: was a rookie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so then the final games here for Indianapolis home

481
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 1: against San Francisco, home against Jacksonville and then at Houston

482
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Speaker 1: has not an easy schedule. That is not an easy schedule.

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Speaker 2: Those are some pretty good defense outside of Jacksonville, which

484
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Speaker 2: is which is not a bad def It's not a joke.

485
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Speaker 1: It's just not as good as the other too. They're opportunistic, right,

486
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 1: and but yeah, that is.

487
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Speaker 2: A that's a rough stretch down the schedule, and you're

488
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Speaker 2: gonna put you know, and Gimpie Ryley Leonard out there.

489
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we'll see what Rivers, We'll see

490
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Speaker 2: what old men Rivers got. But I would not be

491
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Speaker 2: surprised if he's getting if he's in the fourth quarter

492
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Speaker 2: of this game, is coming a week just to get

493
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Speaker 2: him some reps and getting ready for uh for that

494
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Speaker 2: three game stretch.

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Speaker 1: This text was pretty funny, way way before gambling. Pee

496
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Speaker 1: Carroll still would have kicked a field goal there. I

497
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Speaker 1: do not believe even Tom Brady could go out of

498
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 1: the league for five years and come back and be effective.

499
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 1: And not only has been never played fantasy football with

500
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Speaker 1: a significant other, he's probably never played anything with the

501
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Speaker 1: significant other. God the comment I made off the air, No,

502
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Speaker 1: I'm glad you're not going to I almost didn't read

503
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 1: that text, just because you didn't want to set me

504
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 1: up for it. A Ben, when k releases the expert

505
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Speaker 1: picks on Facebook, I can't wait to look at people's

506
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Speaker 1: reactions to your pick.

507
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Speaker 2: Oh, it's hilarious. They're melting down in the in the

508
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Speaker 2: Facebook comments.

509
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Speaker 1: I just want to be known. And Ben won't admit

510
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 1: to this, he used to I know, you may still

511
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 1: admit to this. He was legitimately picking against the Broncos

512
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Speaker 1: during this stretch. The Dallas game the Houston game, for example.

513
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 1: He legitimately thought the Broncos lose those games. Yeah, and

514
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 1: you said you were gonna lose the Dallas game too.

515
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 1: No you did. I don't know about that, Okay, fine, whatever.

516
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 1: You legitimately over the course of this street. I legitimately

517
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Speaker 1: believe they beat them. They were gonna lose these games

518
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,679
Speaker 1: and listen to a certain extent, I don't think any

519
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 1: of us picked him to go on a ten game

520
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 1: winning streak. I, being the hover that I am, will

521
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Speaker 1: continue to pick the I'm gonna pick him this week too,

522
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Speaker 1: and I'm I'm very curious though, as we're discussing this

523
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: on the official pick, you're going to pick against them

524
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: because that's the bit, But are you going to pick

525
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:14,360
Speaker 1: against them? I don't know, we'll see. Tell what an idiot?

526
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 1: Oh what?

527
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Speaker 2: This would be the first game I've had to think

528
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 2: about since Houston. Okay, so now to credit, you said

529
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Speaker 2: they're going to be Kansas City. Like you said that,

530
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 2: you were like, hey, they're gonna be Kansas City. And

531
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 2: of course I said they're going to be Kansas City too.

532
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 2: But you know, I picked them to difference between Hope and.

533
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Speaker 1: If we're gonna play well, I lean into to be

534
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Speaker 1: in the Homer thing. I'm fine with that. Yeah, they're

535
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Speaker 1: they're my team, and there are some games like I

536
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: think it was last year with Ravens. You know, I

537
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Speaker 1: think I picked against him that I'm like, they're going

538
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 1: to lose this game, and.

539
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Speaker 2: There's not much I can say about it that I

540
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 2: love picking ever increasingly ridiculous scores and just watching the

541
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Speaker 2: Facebook commentary just absolutely melt down.

542
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Speaker 1: The six seven one was I thought, you know, that's

543
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Speaker 1: pretty good.

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Speaker 2: I think I might go, uh, maybe the Packers four

545
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 2: to twenty.

546
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Speaker 1: Okay, well, so again, you're gonna pick against him either way.

547
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering by the end of the week if

548
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 1: you're legitimately picking against them or if you're just doing

549
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: it for the BI.

550
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Speaker 2: I will on Friday put a real score inside an

551
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 2: envelope and seal it and leave it here for you

552
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 2: for Broncos react.

553
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: Okay, look forward to that. Yeah, we didn't hear from

554
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: you after the Raiders is nice. I didn't hear from you.

555
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 2: After the Raiders game. I was a little busier, were you.

556
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Speaker 2: We were at the Burndown. I was a little busy.

557
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Speaker 1: You're a little busy. Yeah that howd that work out

558
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Speaker 1: for you? I got a free after free evening tonight? Okay,

559
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: very nice? Five six six nights zero is o kaway

560
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: Covas spirit health text line. All right, so Pete Carroll,

561
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Speaker 1: he responded to the question about the field goal at

562
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Speaker 1: the end of the game. So I'll play it for

563
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Speaker 1: you guys. I certainly have my opinion. I know Ben's

564
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Speaker 1: got his opinion on it. I probably not gonna be

565
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Speaker 1: able to convince him otherwise, and I doubt he's gonna

566
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Speaker 1: convince me otherwise. But here was Pete Carroll's rationale, and

567
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Speaker 1: from his rationale, I'll just say this. For his rationale,

568
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Speaker 1: I see why he thought this made sense. But then

569
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Speaker 1: I also after the fact, you know, I'll just play

570
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: it and then we'll discuss it. Well if you notice,

571
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 1: if you notice it, I was.

572
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Speaker 4: I was battling with the official making a plea for

573
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Speaker 4: because we saw eight second seven, which were giving us

574
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Speaker 4: a chance to kick the field goal, kicking on side

575
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Speaker 4: kick and maybe have a second left. And then when

576
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Speaker 4: it went down to five or went down to three

577
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Speaker 4: or whatever they did, and then they put it back

578
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Speaker 4: to five whatever, then I knew, you know, it was

579
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Speaker 4: gonna look stupid, like.

580
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Speaker 1: You couldn't care about we were doing it.

581
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Speaker 4: So but one it was eight, I was trying to

582
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Speaker 4: get it to ten. I was talking ten, you know,

583
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Speaker 4: with the guy trying to get it back up, and

584
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 4: I thought I'd had a chance to plee it and

585
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Speaker 4: plead it, and they might give me a shot.

586
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Speaker 1: And so I was just competing all as well.

587
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Speaker 4: It wasn't but you know, fans couldn't understand, like you're

588
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 4: asking the question, but there was a real clear thought

589
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Speaker 4: what we were trying to get done there, just to take

590
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Speaker 4: it down to the very last click.

591
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So so absolutely believe him. Well, no, I believe him.

592
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. That's the one thing I appreciate

593
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: about Pete Carroll. There's several coaches when they they're very

594
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: honest with the assess Yeah, and so I knew he

595
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Speaker 1: would give an honest assessment. And I think we all

596
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Speaker 1: kind of knew what he was doing except for the

597
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: fact that it was down to five. And so the

598
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: argument that keeps seeing from people and we don't have

599
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: to relitigate it because it's over and the Broncos one

600
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: and whatever, But the argument that keep seeing is like, well,

601
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 1: what if there ended up being one second left? It's like, no,

602
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: by the time a forty eight yard field goal goes

603
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: through the uprights, we've seen enough football to know you're

604
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: not going to have time. Like that's the thing is,

605
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: like there is in a scenario unless you have a

606
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Speaker 1: home home somebody clock, like slowly clock, but even in

607
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: five seconds for a year fifty yarder, you're not going

608
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: to get that. You need six now. If he would

609
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Speaker 1: have convinced And this is what I got into with

610
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,479
Speaker 1: somebody on Twitter today because they're like, well, what if

611
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: there was eight seconds left, I'm like, then I understand

612
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 1: why he's doing it.

613
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Speaker 3: I do.

614
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: I would a hundred person to support him doing that

615
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: because you never really know. And yes, kick the field

616
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 1: goal there because there is going to be two seconds left.

617
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: Try it on sidekick, maybe there's a defensive penalty or

618
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: receiving penalty or whatever. There's so many scenarios in there

619
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: where you don't stop until you have until its triple zeros, right,

620
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: But five seconds is different. So in this case, it

621
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: sounds to me, and again I'm just parsing the words here,

622
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: it sounds to me he was trying to convince the

623
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: refs to do this thing. They already decided they were

624
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,479
Speaker 1: going to kick the field goal no matter what, right,

625
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: And by the time he didn't get what he wanted,

626
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: he was like, whatever, just kick the field goal. I

627
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 1: know him to look stupid. It's gonna look stupid that

628
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: we're doing this sid It looks extremely stupid. But the

629
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: thing about it to everybody because it doesn't it doesn't

630
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: logically connect to anything.

631
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Speaker 2: You need a field goal at onside and at a

632
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 2: Hail Mary any which way you slice.

633
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: Other than trying to And first of all, by the way,

634
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: the bedrock of the NFL is the gamblers. So the

635
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 1: last people you really do want to piss off is

636
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: the gamblers. The reason we have an injury report is

637
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: because of the gamblers. So to say that we don't

638
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: care about the gamblers suddenly it would be a fallacy.

639
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: I don't.

640
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 2: I mean, I am the gambler, and I don't care

641
00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 2: about the gamblers.

642
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: Like, because you best six and a half, if you

643
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: had done seven and a half, you might be feeling.

644
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 2: I should I should I should have bought that down

645
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 2: to six and a half.

646
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: But the point of it is is I understand his rationale,

647
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 1: and even in the moment, I kind of understood his rationale.

648
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Speaker 1: It just it's one of those deals where it's like,

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Speaker 1: all right, well, once you realize you're not and it's

650
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Speaker 1: not like you would call a time out and say, hey, wait,

651
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Speaker 1: let's let's back this up. And try a hail Mary.

652
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: It is sort of what it is. We moved past it,

653
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Speaker 1: but I wanted to hear his rationale. And when I

654
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: saw that this morning, I was like, all right, well,

655
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: we'll play this and then we can move past it.

656
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: But that was his mindset, was like if I got

657
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Speaker 1: into eight seconds then, and honestly, I said, even the

658
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: gamblers out there have been like, ah, eight seconds, you

659
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: gotta try it. It's just an operate condition thing. At

660
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Speaker 1: the end of the day.

661
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 2: You need three things, right, you need three pieces here.

662
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: If you're the Raiders, right, let's take the Broncos Fantom

663
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Speaker 2: out of this.

664
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Speaker 1: You're the Raiders, you need three pieces.

665
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 2: You need a field goal, you need onside kick, and

666
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: need a hail Mary touchdown.

667
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what order you do those in. But

668
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Speaker 1: there was no time left. Been this. It's the hope

669
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 1: and a prayer thing. But the hope of a prayer

670
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Speaker 1: with eight seconds I get it. Hope in a prayer

671
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: when you know because you've watched enough football. We've all

672
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: watched enough football. The five seconds is not enough time.

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Speaker 1: That's where it's different. But again, he'd already decided he

674
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: was going to kick the field goal. Either way, which

675
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: is what it sounds like.

676
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I would have done the same thing, honestly,

677
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: Like it was one of those things, I would have

678
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 2: done the same thing. I would every is your coach,

679
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 2: Your everything about you is trying to give your team

680
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 2: a chance. Whatever that however slim that Maybe, then why

681
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 2: don't all coaches do it that way?

682
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: Because we've watched plenty of football where they realize this,

683
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: we're down two scores and this is over.

684
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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're at fourteen points with that amount

685
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: of time left, I mean, and you don't want to

686
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 2: I've seen teams kneel it out. You don't want to

687
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: see you running back, put an interception on the board

688
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: or something like that.

689
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: Okay, but either raiders, you don't have anything to play

690
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: for at that point. You can't. That's what I'm saying.

691
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: You can't play both sides of this argument, which you are.

692
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying you can't. You can either have it one

693
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: way or the other, and not all coaches do it

694
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Speaker 1: this way.

695
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: Well, no, I'm not having it both ways. Do you

696
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 2: ask me the question, the hypothetical why other coaches do it?

697
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 2: I already told you I would do it that way.

698
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: I'm not playing both sides of it. I'm very clear

699
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 2: I would kick the field.

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00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: But there are plenty of examples historically where coaches they

701
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,239
Speaker 1: know they're down by two scores and they to say,

702
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: you know where, either you kneel it out, we'll take

703
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: a deep shot and then whatever happened.

704
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: I'm giving you their their air quotes logic behind that.

705
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, I mean, you

706
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 2: you play like you have a chance unless you're you know,

707
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 2: I mean, if you feel like it's gonna get somebody

708
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 2: hurt or something, or you got some you know whatever,

709
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 2: then I guess you'll lay up there and Roy, Roy McElroy,

710
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: you know, Dave back away whatever.

711
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: But I can't what's the gap from tin Cup. I

712
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: can't think it's freaking name David, Dave what you're saying

713
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: about Roy McAvoy, Roy mckaway. There we go.

714
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like Rory McKell now and yeah, I

715
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 2: just met out with Greg McElroy. So as bad as

716
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: I butchered the Trojan Horse one with the fall of

717
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 2: Troy the other day.

718
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: Remember that I was awful. It's a literally I got.

719
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: Out there, I was out there to limb and I'm

720
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 2: like no way to get back from.

721
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Speaker 1: Don't worry about you sometimes you know you're there to dream.

722
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: Your takes have been getting weaker. Oh you've been missing more?

723
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: Does this what we're doing? Okay, come back after the

724
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: top of the hour. Then I want to play Yeah

725
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: Murphy down there like, nah, I've been wrong before, I'll

726
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: be wrong again. Probably the show. Over the course of

727
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: the show, when was that wrong? The show plenty of times?

728
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: So telling your wife to my wife, she texted me

729
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: saying like, there's no way he believes that she texted me.

730
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: She's like, my god, this this would explain a lot

731
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: for Ben, just.

732
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, just trying to get some listener in trouble

733
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: with his wife, Like you're.

734
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 5: Like, just lie to her, just tell her, Yeah, I

735
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 5: just tell her you were I would never that could be,

736
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 5: you know, a spinoff career for you, Ben, at some point,

737
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 5: marital advice.

738
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: You know, I've often thought that I would. I would

739
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 2: do a great relationship show. I have plenty of experience

740
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 2: and failure in that department. You need to say, just

741
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 2: lie to her.

742
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, next caller, next callar supposed to hear collar patronizer.

743
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 5: We would love that stuff. You got plenty of time

744
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 5: to do the dumb oh wow wow, thank you Samwich. Anyways, terrible,

745
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 5: terrible man advice Ryan Edwards had.

746
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: Only Ryan Edwards is giving me so com only on

747
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: the top of the hour, Our guy, uh, our guy.

748
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: Tim Jenkins did his breakdown of bon Nix. He's had

749
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: a couple of very interesting things that I want to

750
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: run past you. We'll get to that coming up here. Also, well,

751
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: you know, let's do this now because I I thought

752
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh last night. Did you hear what he said

753
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: about the win and how it ranked in his life?

754
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: The win over the Eagles. This is this is brilliant,

755
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: maybe the.

756
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 6: Best best feeling, uh you know, just a wonderful, wonderful

757
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 6: feeling of winning and thrill of victory. It's certainly in

758
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 6: the discussion I put in the discussion the birth of

759
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 6: my seven children, uh, my marriage, uh you know, in

760
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 6: the conversation, in the conversation, just joyful, uh joyous and

761
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 6: uh you know, the biblical definition of that is just

762
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 6: overflowing with with with Joe.

763
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Speaker 1: You know, he's obviously being a bit sarcastic there. He's

764
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: low key, pretty funny. He's very dry obviously. Oh yeah,

765
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: but is a stark contrast to Sean. Now, Sean has

766
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: some biting humor too, right, but it's but it's way different.

767
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's usually like he's pulling a Benjamin Olbright and

768
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 2: just being a cerbic to be abrasive.

769
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, where Jim just just having some fun with it.

770
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: But you see him out there celebrating. Did you see,

771
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: by the way, justin Herbert dodging the interview.

772
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 2: You can't do that, dude. You know at the end

773
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 2: of the game, you got you got responsibilities. Man, just

774
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 2: just just handle it and then go celebrate with your teammates.

775
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 2: I get it, But no, don't do that.

776
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. It's funny watching the reaction

777
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: to it because there's some people saying, let him go

778
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: celebrate with his teammates, let him go do whatever he's

779
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: gonna do. We as the media are not there. I'm like, no,

780
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: but the deal, there's a deal.

781
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: He knows what his deal is. He knows what time

782
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 2: he's supposed to be there. He knows he's got to

783
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 2: give a quick sixty second thirty you know, sixty second

784
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 2: sound bite. He knows the timing on that. Every football

785
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: player knows that. Come on, yeah, I'm with you on that.

786
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: I thought that was that wasn't the best look for

787
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, even though again a lot of the reaction

788
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: today was like, let him go celebrate with his teammates.

789
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: I don't know why the media always to put themselves

790
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: in these situations. It's like, no, but you guys don't understand.

791
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: Behind the scenes, this has all worked out ahead of time.

792
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: If Jalen Hurts had thrown the touchdown pass, guess what,

793
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts is going to be interviewed at midfield steady

794
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: through another interception, but he would have been interviewed at

795
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: midfield and have been like about the Eagles bouncing back

796
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: and finding a way to overcome all the turnovers and

797
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 1: all the issues.

798
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 2: Him on the same play was just still bonkers.

799
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: Brand Grant, there was a wild stat about that going.

800
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Speaker 2: Back to nineteen seventy eight, the only player to ever

801
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 2: have two turnovers on the same play.

802
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god. Yeah, that's only because the stats

803
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: only go back that.

804
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 2: Far, right, right, Not sure it's ever been done, but

805
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 2: it was as it was happening. I was here on

806
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 2: the air watching it happen. I'm just like speech, I'm

807
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 2: trying to point the TV to Grant because Grant's over

808
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 2: there to you know, work instead of you know whatever,

809
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 2: and I'm like trying to look what happen.

810
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: Watched his replay truly remarkable.

811
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 2: The box score on that the play by play on

812
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 2: the box score.

813
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: On a side note, as somebody that had the Chargers

814
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: defense in fantasy last night, very happy. I was actually

815
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: pretty cool because you got two turnovers back to back to.

816
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 2: Imagine only having Jalen Hurts going on Monday night football, dude,

817
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 2: and you get that going the negative and lose. I

818
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: watched the guy get bounced out of the playoffs last night. No,

819
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding, because I'm in the league where it's

820
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 2: negative five.

821
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's a turnover. He was like negative

822
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 1: twenty something points.

823
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 5: He had five.

824
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: Turnovers, he had negative fifteen, and he got bounced out

825
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: of the playoffs. He was favored going into the night. Wow,

826
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: and he lost. Yeah, That's all I could think about

827
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: last night.

828
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 2: I was like, there's somebody out there right now who

829
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 2: had the lead going in tonight with Jalen Hurston, didn't

830
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 2: bench him and lost, because why would you?

831
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: He's in fantasy football. I know that you historically have

832
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: not liked him as an actual well, but he locked

833
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: up the Monday night win bench the player. Yeah, I

834
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: mean yes, you're also thinking weird like that could happen,

835
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,919
Speaker 1: you know, boy, that was tough though.

836
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: That's a die is a brutal beat, and for that

837
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 2: to happen in that kind of week where you're probably

838
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 2: getting prepped up, you know, they.

839
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: Probably used the playoff making sure absolutely. Hey, it's Colorado

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