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Speaker 1: Boston's Bulldozer never sleeps. The Kooner Report weekend edition on

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Speaker 2: Doctor Grace putting liberals in their place. Grace Vuoto full disclosure,

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Speaker 2: She is my wonderful wife. Definitely married up, Grace. I

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Speaker 2: gotta ask you. You saw that explosive hearing yesterday. It's

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Speaker 2: making the rounds. Everybody's talking about it. People are absolutely

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Speaker 2: shocked by what they saw. Let me take Mackaiver first.

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Speaker 2: She now said openly, if you support Ice as far

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Speaker 2: as the Democrats are concerned, you are going to hell.

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Speaker 2: You will be judged, and you will go to the

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Speaker 2: pits of hell. Are we now seeing a political fanaticism

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Speaker 2: that resembles really religious fundamentalism, religious extremism of a kind

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Speaker 2: that you see in the Middle East, or that you

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Speaker 2: saw in Europe during the Spanish Inquisition? What say you, well, Jeff.

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Speaker 3: First of all, I'm starting to miss black lives matter

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Speaker 3: right now. These people are just trying to find a

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Speaker 3: way to bash the Trump administration. And during his first

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Speaker 3: term it was black lives matter, Black lives matter. Well,

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Speaker 3: guess what many African Americans, they benefit greatly from law enforcement,

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Speaker 3: especially law enforcement against illegals that are wrecking have havoc

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Speaker 3: in their communities, So this is just nuts. One thing

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Speaker 3: I want to say is I was absolutely floored when

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Speaker 3: I heard the word hell coming from them. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's twenty six years that I'm in this country, and

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Speaker 3: I've been waiting for the use of the word hell.

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Speaker 3: In the churches. They don't use that word anymore because

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Speaker 3: it's a politically incorrect word. And to my shock, we

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Speaker 3: hear it from a liberal and they usually say that

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Speaker 3: we have to set up church and state, and there's

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Speaker 3: no such thing as God, and there's no such thing

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Speaker 3: as heaven and Hell, And all of a sudden, what

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Speaker 3: about theocracy, freiocracy? You mentioned the word morality in politics,

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Speaker 3: and they're like, oh my gosh, you're gonna create theocracy here.

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Speaker 3: So I was floored I heard the word hell. And really,

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Speaker 3: the Trump administration and everybody involved should simply ignore them.

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Speaker 3: The Democrats have no winning issue. The voters gave this

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Speaker 3: president a mandate, a mandate to close that border and

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Speaker 3: deport illegals and clean up the country, and all they

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Speaker 3: need to do is stick to that. This is not

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Speaker 3: you know, people going to hell. This is actually we

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Speaker 3: are the Democrats. Here, we are enforcing the will of

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Speaker 3: the people. This is what the people voted for, period,

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Speaker 3: full stop.

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Speaker 2: Grace. Shri Thanadar has a bill. It's going to be voted.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be supported by every single Democrat in

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Speaker 2: the House and in the Senate, especially if they get

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Speaker 2: back power in November, which calls for ICE to be abolished. Also,

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Speaker 2: they're also calling for Christinome to be impeached. He's going

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Speaker 2: to be impeached, there's no question about it. But they

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Speaker 2: want ice, not reformed. They don't want ice rained in.

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Speaker 2: They're now saying Ice must be completely and utterly eliminated.

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Speaker 2: Open up the border, no mass deportations whatsoever. This is

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Speaker 2: the issue now the hill they're willing to die on.

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Speaker 3: What say you, Well, look, even some moderate Democrats are

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Speaker 3: telling them that that position is too extreme. This is

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Speaker 3: just like defund the police. It really backfired on them.

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Speaker 3: You know, if I'm advising them as a Democratic party,

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Speaker 3: I would say, listen, you should just be asking for

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Speaker 3: if you want to go down on that road, the

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Speaker 3: reform of ICE. But when you go to the extent

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Speaker 3: of abolish ICE, that is another extreme position, just like

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Speaker 3: the open border we saw during the Biden administration, and

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Speaker 3: this is going to give the Republicans a winning issue.

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Speaker 3: We don't want to go back to what we saw

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Speaker 3: during the Biden administration. It was absolute chaos. And we

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Speaker 3: know that there is just a thin line of defense

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Speaker 3: between keeping this country safe and having the chaos that

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Speaker 3: we had during the Biden administration, and that is border enforcement.

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Speaker 3: And what ICE is doing.

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Speaker 2: Grace Ice is taking a beating public relations. They're losing

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Speaker 2: the public relations war. In a poll after poll, many

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Speaker 2: Americans now say they don't like the techniques, the tactics

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Speaker 2: being used by Ice. They think they've been too ham

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Speaker 2: so my question to you, do you blame Ice in

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Speaker 2: any way, shape or form for the way they've gone

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Speaker 2: about their raids, say in Minneapolis or in other cities.

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Speaker 2: Or is deportation just a messy business. It's a messy,

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Speaker 2: ugly business. It's not pleasant. It wasn't pleasant under Obama.

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Speaker 2: It was messy under Obama. It's gonna be messy when

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Speaker 2: you have to deport that many illegals and you're going

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Speaker 2: neighborhood to neighborhood, street the street. Yeah, it's going to

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Speaker 2: be disruptive. It's not going to be nice. In other words,

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Speaker 2: that's the nature of law enforcement. It's not pleasant, but

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Speaker 2: somebody has to do it.

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Speaker 3: What say you, well, Jess, if we broadcast twenty four

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Speaker 3: to seven all of the victims of illegal you know

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Speaker 3: what the criminals have done, illegal criminals have done, illegal

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Speaker 3: alien criminals have done to American citizens. If we broadcast

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Speaker 3: that twenty four to seven, public opinion would change. But

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Speaker 3: what we're seeing is basically a big peace victory for

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Speaker 3: the left. They've taken two incidences and they've just blown

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Speaker 3: them up. And what the Trump administration has to do

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Speaker 3: is no appeasement, no backtracking, but continue to play up

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Speaker 3: and make the stories known of the victims. The whole

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Speaker 3: narrative would be different. The only difference is what are

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Speaker 3: you focusing on. The media is focusing on these two.

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Speaker 3: But we've got to fight fire with fire, focus on

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Speaker 3: all the victims of the crimes that these illegals have committed,

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Speaker 3: and that ice is standing in the way of more

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Speaker 3: such crimes being perpetrated. If we do that, we can

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Speaker 3: turn around this pr tobacco.

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Speaker 2: This congressman, this radical democrat by the way from India,

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Speaker 2: he immigrated to the United States from India is now saying,

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Speaker 2: and many Democrats are you know, you hear what they're

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Speaker 2: saying on ms now on CNN what many of the

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Speaker 2: liberal commentariat are saying. Are now saying that Trump administration

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Speaker 2: officials will be arrested should the Democrats come back to

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Speaker 2: power in twenty twenty eight. They're openly saying, you better

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Speaker 2: get a pardon from President Trump, because if you don't

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Speaker 2: get a pardon, we're gonna lock all of you up.

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Speaker 2: In fact, this is Bakari Sellers on He's a CNN

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Speaker 2: analyst on the Don Lemon Show, and listen to what

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Speaker 2: he says about Trump's supporters and what needs to be done.

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Speaker 2: Roll cut twenty one.

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Speaker 4: Mike, this is a little bit controversial with my friends,

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Speaker 4: as I say, politically, because I think hindsight is showing

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Speaker 4: us that what we need after Donald Trump, what we

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Speaker 4: needed after Donald Trump is not a bridge. You know,

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Speaker 4: Joe Biden was somewhat of a bridge. He was supposed

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Speaker 4: to be a bridge, or a palette cleanser, or somebody

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Speaker 4: who morally and ethically was antithetical to who Donald Trump was.

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Speaker 4: You know, Uncle Joe was the nice guy, older white

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Speaker 4: guy comes in and you want to eat ice cream

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Speaker 4: with him? Right? Well, I think what that episode in

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Speaker 4: our country's history showed us is that we really need

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Speaker 4: some fumigation. Right, We need an exorcism, for lack of

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Speaker 4: a better term. We need a more aggressive approach to

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Speaker 4: go in and surgically remove the cancer that is the

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump and Maga movement. We don't need someone who's

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Speaker 4: going to pacify this great notion of what Tadio's point

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Speaker 4: of what we have this country to be.

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Speaker 2: And you've got members of Congress now openly, openly saying,

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Speaker 2: we come back to power, we're going to start arresting

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Speaker 2: the entire administration. What say you? Now, they're comparing us

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Speaker 2: to a cancer that has to be purged and excised. Look,

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Speaker 2: it seems to me that Democrats are taking us down

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Speaker 2: the road to a civil war. Am I wrong?

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Speaker 3: Yesterday was really alarming and really disgusting, especially the comparisons

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Speaker 3: to the Gestapo. I mean, that's completely uncalled for. But

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Speaker 3: I would have to say, I think this is just

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Speaker 3: rhetoric to try to continue to drama public opinion, like

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Speaker 3: we saw they did it during the Grammys. They had

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Speaker 3: their moment at the Super Bowl with the halftime show.

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Speaker 3: They think that this is the way they're going to

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Speaker 3: get people out to the polls for a midterm victory.

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Speaker 3: But the larger trend we're seeing in the Democratic Party,

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Speaker 3: like in the victories in New Jersey and Virginia, what

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Speaker 3: they're really going to focus on come election time is

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Speaker 3: going to be the affordability issue. And those two female

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Speaker 3: leaders they stayed away from law fair and warfare, and

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Speaker 3: many Democratic analysts are advising them stick to that in

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Speaker 3: order to beat the Republicans in the future. Look, warfare

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Speaker 3: worked against the Biden administration the first time, so if

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Speaker 3: they try to go down that road again, they're gonna

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Speaker 3: they're gonna lose if they do that. And there's enough

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Speaker 3: of them in their party that are stud enough to

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Speaker 3: know you can only take that rhetoric so far.

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Speaker 2: I hope you're right. I really hope you're right. It

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Speaker 2: just seems to me that the the rhetoric is getting

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Speaker 2: more extreme, more intense, more violent, and it's getting more widespread.

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Speaker 2: It used to be a few voices, Now it's a chorus.

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Speaker 2: And I think, after a while, you know, you keep

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Speaker 2: pushing this kind of violent rhetoric, it's gonna lead to violence.

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Speaker 2: So but we'll see, I mean, we'll see doctor Grace. Look,

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Speaker 2: we're up against it. We gotta go. I really appreciate

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Speaker 2: it as always excellent analysis.

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