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Speaker 1: thank you so much. We spend a little bit of

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Speaker 1: Sure, you bring up a good point chimney fires. My

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right. Whether or not it's the masonry brick

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Speaker 1: Very good, very good. So when my buddy was telling

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Speaker 1: So you work with a company of the chimney Care company.

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Speaker 2: So I always try to communicate with our clients to

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Speaker 1: I totally agree. If you ever get that accomplished, we

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Speaker 2: Absolutely So with gas logs in a fireplace, exact same

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Speaker 2: They'll have less heat and no creas so that could

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Speaker 1: I promise you a quick interview, and I thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for your time. Clark is with the company,

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Speaker 1: the Chimney Care Company, and your expertise is appreciated. Thank you,

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you very much.

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