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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Welcome in to the latest edition of Cincy

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Speaker 2: We will be joined this afternoon by our good friend

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Speaker 2: Joe Daniman from Fox nineteen. Joe will join us at

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Speaker 2: one o'clock to talk a little Red's Little Bengals and

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Speaker 2: who who knows what else, As is the case each

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Speaker 2: time we get to talk to Joe Daniman, we'll spend

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Speaker 2: some time today on buy or Sell, and I wanted

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Speaker 2: to get that out there at the top because we're

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Speaker 2: gonna move buy or Sell to our number three, so

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Speaker 2: that gives you time to give Austin and I. Any

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Speaker 2: scenarios that you may have for buy or sell, you

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Speaker 2: could do that via X at Tony Underscore Pike fifteen

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Speaker 2: or at Audielmore. You could leave us a talk back today.

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Speaker 2: But any scenarios that we can debate with a little

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Speaker 2: buy or sell, We'll be happy to do that this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Did you just call it x X Twitter?

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Speaker 3: Whatever? I don't care. Okay, whatever else it is, I

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Speaker 3: have to get political or anything, it'll always be Twitter

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Speaker 3: to me. You said you wanted to talk some politics today. No, No,

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Speaker 3: I just said that we should we talk politics. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but you said it in a way where you like

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Speaker 3: you wanted to. I couldn't. Do you have something to

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Speaker 3: get off your nest. I couldn't tell you your first

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Speaker 3: thing about politics. The closest thing to politics I'm going

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Speaker 3: through right now is schools need to be back in session, okay,

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Speaker 3: because things are starting to get out of control of

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Speaker 3: the pipe household, a little bit of cabin fever there.

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Speaker 2: Kids need school. It'd be one thing to be off

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Speaker 2: school and they could like still go outside and play

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Speaker 2: in the snow.

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Speaker 3: Sure it's too cold, too cold.

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Speaker 2: You know, we're living in a way, we're walking on eggshells.

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Speaker 2: We got every faucet in the house dripping, so the

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Speaker 2: pipes don't freeze. Sure, and these kids are fairal out

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Speaker 2: of control, out of control.

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Speaker 3: I you know, I have one who who very much

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Speaker 3: does not complain about the cold because I like the cold.

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Speaker 3: I'm on the record of saying, sure, I love the cold.

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Speaker 3: I would prefer cold over extreme heat. I agree, it's

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Speaker 3: too damn cold out there.

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Speaker 2: Gosh, you gotta worry about your car starting in the morning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta worry about pipes freezing. I had one

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Speaker 3: of those moments start in my car this morning. I

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Speaker 3: was like, please, baby, please, just just an extra tick longer?

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Speaker 3: How long can you let the dog outside?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: Can the kids even step outside? At this point? My

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Speaker 3: mom sent me a picture. My mom lives in Georgia,

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Speaker 3: and it's a little chillier there than normal, chilly enough

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Speaker 3: that my dog down there, Griffy, is wearing a sweater. Wow.

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Speaker 3: So I have seen a lot of people bundling up

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Speaker 3: I think is a door.

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Speaker 2: I also love the snow, but I always forget how

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Speaker 2: much of a hassle the snow becomes for the dog. Sure,

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Speaker 2: dog goes outside of the bathroom, comes in and there's

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Speaker 2: snow everywhere. It's just I'm ready for a break in

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Speaker 2: the weather, and it's just it's not going anywhere. Is

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Speaker 3: Political to say the kids need to go back to school? No,

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Speaker 3: I mean we could get into the politics of weather.

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Speaker 3: There are some people out there that believe the government

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Speaker 3: is manufacturing the weather.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 2: I threw out the term Alberta clipper the other day

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Speaker 3: Kevin Robinson over there at Channel five, he said, Uh,

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Speaker 3: it's sniffing out the NAM system in Am again. NAM

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Speaker 3: it's sniffing out a clipper for us to bring accumulating

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Speaker 3: she can tell us about Alberta clippers. Alberta clip man,

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Speaker 2: At this point, the Alberta because the Clippers are playing

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Speaker 2: it's cold today, it's cold tonight. On Wednesday it's still

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Speaker 2: very cold. Wednesday night extreme cold. And then Thursday, I'll

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Speaker 2: save you the extended look, it's cold.

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Speaker 3: So we had Steve Raleigh on down the hall yesterday. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he said they could get to twenty five below zero.

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Speaker 3: Apparently we won't even sniff freezing until next week.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, that snow's going nowhere. Huh isn't that great?

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Speaker 2: That snow's going to go nowhere? And then the snow

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Speaker 2: is going to like turn to dangerous ice condition. Like, well,

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Speaker 2: the kids ever go back to school? Probably not are they?

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Speaker 2: We just call it for this week, especially if there's

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Speaker 3: I just know the term clipper.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that's my political rant for the day, which

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Speaker 2: I don't even think is political. Uh, but these kids

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Speaker 2: literally literally and figuratively in the Pike household. I got

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Speaker 2: a text this morning. I shared it with our guy

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Speaker 2: John John down the hall of just this huge vase

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Speaker 3: Oh it shattered, shattered.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, so like our front door, like above the door,

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Speaker 2: a little bit, shattered the vase. His kids that, you

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Speaker 2: know what, wouldn't happen if they were in.

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Speaker 3: School, maybe it would.

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Speaker 2: It wouldn't happen at our house. So I can't say,

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Speaker 2: all right, that's my rant on uh on the weather

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Speaker 2: little bit of both. I was looking for different ways

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Speaker 2: that possibly because everything they need me here to do

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Speaker 3: Today, big day tomorrow. It is Meredith's birthday. It's the

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Speaker 3: birthday tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: We have a family We got a family group chat

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Speaker 2: and an Anne of mine and my dad both said

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Speaker 2: happy birthday in it today. And there was a point

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Speaker 2: where I panicked because, like again, days are just running

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Speaker 2: together right now, and I'm like, crap, surely I didn't

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Speaker 2: miss this. So we're already in scrambled mode. I think

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Speaker 2: what she would want the most is to head down

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Speaker 2: to fifth Third Arena and watch the Bearcats tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: That would make a lot of sense.

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Speaker 2: I just I can't think of anything else on her

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Speaker 2: list that she would like to do now. If anyone's

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Speaker 2: got upgraded seats, maybe she'd like that even more if

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Speaker 2: anyone from UC's listening.

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Speaker 3: But we'll figure that.

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Speaker 2: We'll cross that bridge tomorrow when we get there. For today,

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Speaker 2: as mentioned, we'll do some buy or sell in our

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Speaker 2: number three Joe Daneman at the top of our number two.

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Speaker 2: We've got news across all sport plotform. Joe Brady. Remember

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Speaker 2: that name. I remember that's a name that a lot

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Speaker 2: of folks around here talk about. Joe Brady, Joe Brady,

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Speaker 2: LSU Joe Brady Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, Huh what huh

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Speaker 2: huh oh, Thattius Moss, Thattius Moss, Justin Jefferson, Clyde Edwards, Hilaire.

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Speaker 2: It is believed Austin, I believe this is right that

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Speaker 2: Joe Brady's going to be the next coach of the

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 3: That's correct. It is an internal promotion for the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 3: They are going to Joe Brady. It is a five

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Speaker 3: year contract for Joe Brady to be the next head

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Speaker 3: coach of the Bills.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to Joe Brady. Darien Mensa, the Duke quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Him and Duke have agreed to a settlement in their

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Speaker 2: dispute and it's going to clear the way for Mensa

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Speaker 2: to transfer to another school, which is expected to be

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Speaker 2: the Yule the Miami Hurricanes seem to have their quarterback. Remember,

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Speaker 2: there was a dispute going back and forth on Mensa

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Speaker 2: had committed to Duke and now I wanted out of it,

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Speaker 2: and these two sides got together and they came up

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Speaker 2: with something that now allows Mensa. I'll probably believe either

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Speaker 2: there's going to be a payout or something with the

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Speaker 2: contract he signed to get him back to being able

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Speaker 2: to leave Duke University. Harrison Bater, remember him. He signed

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Speaker 2: a two year, twenty million dollar deal with the Giants.

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Speaker 2: Add another name off the list. Harrison Bader coming off

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Speaker 2: one of his best seasons in the major leagues is

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Speaker 2: going to the Giants last year. Two seventy seven seventeen homers,

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Speaker 2: if you're looking for I believe it was Jeff Carr

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Speaker 2: there when we talked to him of the type of player,

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Speaker 2: the type of move that maybe would make sense for

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Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Reds. Of course, Austin, the Reds can't do

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Speaker 2: anything yet because we don't have an update on the

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Speaker 2: TV deal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if we're gonna get one.

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Speaker 2: And he dies, so we have no news for the

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Speaker 2: Reds because there's not a TV deal in place. It's

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Speaker 2: a Bengals mock off season day. I saw Paul Danner

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Speaker 2: Junior did this. I saw a guy Charlie Goldsmith did this.

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Speaker 2: We'll go through a little bit of the Bengals off season,

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Speaker 2: the most ideal off season for the Cincinnati Bengals today

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Speaker 2: come to the realization and it's a it's a shocking

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Speaker 2: one that once the Super Bowl concludes, Austin, Sam Darnold,

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Speaker 2: or Drake May will be a Super Bowl Championship quarterback

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Speaker 2: in a league dominated by the quarterback position and names.

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Speaker 2: When you started this NFL season, I'll go through Josh Allen,

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, Aaron Rodgers, Trevor Lawrence, Drick Mahomes,

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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert, Matthew Stafford brock Party. You could go up

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Speaker 2: and unlest Baker Mayfield, Jordan Love, Caleb Williams, Jared Goff,

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Speaker 2: Dak Prescott, Jalen Hurts. These are all quarterbacks going into

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Speaker 2: the year, Jayden Daniels that you would have probably thought, Okay,

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Speaker 2: this quarterback has a chance to win the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: and maybe Drake May was on that list for you,

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Speaker 2: But I don't know if people assumed Drake May would

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Speaker 2: take the jump he did. The Super Bowl is gonna

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Speaker 2: wrap up and none of those quarterbacks just mentioned will

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Speaker 2: be a Super Bowl quarterback this year. It's either going

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Speaker 2: to be Sam Darnold or Drake may. So today, what

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Speaker 2: I'd like to do is dive in a little bit deeper.

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Speaker 2: And I believe this was done on ESPN dot com

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Speaker 2: by Ben Solak, who looked at the off seasons from

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Speaker 2: Sam Darnold pathway a little bit more of an opening.

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Speaker 2: Jared Goff did it with the Rams in twenty eighteen,

435
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Speaker 2: Nick Foles in twenty seventeen, Jimmy Garoppolo in twenty nineteen

436
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Speaker 2: with the forty nine Ers. So on one end, you

437
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Speaker 2: have a team in Seattle that's giving thirty three million

438
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Speaker 2: middle of the road to Sam Darnold, and a team

439
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Speaker 2: in New England who is still operating on a rookie

440
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Speaker 2: quarterback deal in Drake May number three. Not not really

441
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Speaker 2: pertinent right now to the Bengals, but it could be

442
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Speaker 2: if this job comes open. It's okay to hire defensive

443
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Speaker 2: or CEO. Solock points out head coaches because this time

444
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Speaker 2: of the year comes and a lot of folks go

445
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Speaker 2: with got to get an offensive guy, got to get

446
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Speaker 2: an offensive guy this year is the model of why

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Speaker 2: you don't have to do that. There's no bigger model

448
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Speaker 2: of why you have to do that. Why Mike McDonald

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Speaker 2: and what he's done with this Seahawks defense. Yes, if

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Speaker 2: you have the defensive head coach or the defensive CEO

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Speaker 2: head coach, often.

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Speaker 3: What do you got to have?

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Speaker 2: Offensively? A very good offensive coordinator. Both these teams have

454
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Speaker 2: it in the Super Bowl, right kobiak for the Seahawks,

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Speaker 2: McDaniel for the Patriots. So again, the idea is always

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Speaker 2: offensive offensive offensive guys. Mike McDonald, Mike Vrabel both not

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Speaker 2: the offensive mind and they've gone through on their path

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Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl some offensive minded head coaches.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in order to do that, you think about it,

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Speaker 3: part of the reason why those guys were hired was

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Speaker 3: to deal with the offenses inside their division. Mike Rabel,

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Speaker 3: you're thinking about the Bills. You're thinking about at the time,

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Speaker 3: the Jets or not the Jets, the Dolphins and Mike McDaniel,

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Speaker 3: and they had been to the playoffs and in Seattle,

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Speaker 3: you've obviously got Sean McVay and Kyle Shanahan, you know,

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Speaker 3: and oh, by the way, they had to go through

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Speaker 3: those two guys to get to the super Bowl, and

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Speaker 3: they beat them.

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Speaker 2: I think if you look at maybe teams that are

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Speaker 2: trying to do that, one of the guys that a

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Speaker 2: lot of people would point out is Jesse Minter. Is

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Speaker 2: Jesse Minner the type of guy that can come in

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Speaker 2: and make that type of difference with the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 2: And finally, the fourth point that sold like makes and

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Speaker 2: this is something that you brought up even before I

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Speaker 2: went to this list pre show. Here, Austin teams should

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Speaker 2: be chasing explosive place. The Patriots have some home run hitters,

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Speaker 2: a wide receiver. They also have a running back in

479
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Speaker 2: Trayvon Henderson that they don't use in high doses, but

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Speaker 2: when they get touches a lot of times it is

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Speaker 2: explosive place. Alec Pierce, Jamison Williams, Christian Watson are names

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Speaker 2: on that list that when they get their touches a

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Speaker 2: lot of times, it is in an explosive manner. Jamiir

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Speaker 2: Gibbs is an explosive player. You certainly see that with

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Speaker 2: Jackson Smith and Jigba and what the Seattle Seahawks have gained.

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Speaker 2: But you made mentioned before we came on air today

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Speaker 2: Austin about the lack of explosiveness and those big plays

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Speaker 2: and just plays in general in the NFL right now.

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Speaker 3: Well, the Bengals specifically have a lack of explosive plays

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Speaker 3: on their offense. Like their offense is good, and they

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Speaker 3: sustain drives and they score points, and their EPA is

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Speaker 3: top ten in the NFL over the last several years.

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Speaker 3: It is a fine offense. But what they miss is

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Speaker 3: explosive plays, and that's where they really need that third

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Speaker 3: wide receiver. And specifically, and I know we've talked about

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Speaker 3: this with Charlie, is that double double coverage that has

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Speaker 3: run against t Higgins and Jamar Chase, where basically they're

498
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Speaker 3: both being double teamed bracketed, and that leaves a one

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Speaker 3: on one. We saw how it can work when Chase

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Speaker 3: Brown's went on one. We've seen glimpses of it when

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Speaker 3: Mike Gasicki has won on one. You know, when Gasiki

502
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Speaker 3: was hurt this year, a lot of it fell on

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Speaker 3: the shoulders of Andrea Yoshivash and he didn't do a

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Speaker 3: good enough job of winning those one on ones. But

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Speaker 3: on top of that, I saw these stats from Mike

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Speaker 3: Renner from CBS Sports. He's also a scout at the

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Speaker 3: Senior Bowl, which is getting underway, and he said that

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Speaker 3: the drives per game in the NFL are trending downwards

509
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Speaker 3: and sharply that defensive schematic shifts are forcing offenses to

510
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Speaker 3: put together longer drives, which means fewer drives. The NFL

511
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Speaker 3: averaged fewer drives per game in twenty twenty five than

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Speaker 3: any other season this century, a full drive per game

513
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Speaker 3: less this year than two years ago. Wow. You combine

514
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Speaker 3: that with the kickoff and the k ball rule changes

515
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 3: that brings teams closer to scoring position, there's less. That's

516
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Speaker 3: what's weird about it is there's less distance to go

517
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Speaker 3: from where you get the ball to the end zone,

518
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Speaker 3: and yet teams are still having to kind of milk

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Speaker 3: these drives and sustain them time and time again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. It's unique in the Sanshi. Look at

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Speaker 2: what Seattle did. We mentioned that the player yesterday when

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Speaker 2: they brought in Shaheed. Shaheed is known as an explosive player.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Not a ton of touches, but when he gets touches,

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Speaker 2: you know, you think of the kickoff return, you think

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Speaker 2: of the ways that they've utilized him. It's just those

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Speaker 2: types of playmakers. And again, like when we're talking about

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Speaker 2: explosive plays aufs, you mentioned wide receiver three. It's not

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Speaker 2: a guy that you're expecting to get ten targets to

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Speaker 2: a game, correct, right. It's a player that's going to

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Speaker 2: get a couple targets, but those targets are gonna be

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Speaker 2: what home run opportunities. Utilizing what the defense is going

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Speaker 2: to your other playmakers and finding ways to exploit that

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Speaker 2: and get those matchups over the top.

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Speaker 3: When it's a second and short and it's time to

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Speaker 3: take a shot, can you win? Yep? When it's a

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Speaker 3: third and seven and they're gonna do everything in their

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Speaker 3: power to take away Higgins and Chase. Can you win

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Speaker 3: over the middle and can you break a tackle?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 3: You know, how often do the Reds run any earth

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Speaker 3: the threads the Bengals? How often do the Reds don't

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Speaker 3: run at all anymore?

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Speaker 9: Not a lot?

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Speaker 10: No?

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Speaker 3: How often do the Bengals run like a reverse to

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Speaker 3: wide receiver? Never? No, it never happens. And and part

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Speaker 3: of the reason why is, you know they I don't.

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Speaker 3: I think there should be reverses run to Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 3: Higgins maybe is not that type of player, but they

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Speaker 3: don't have that guy out in space, and maybe Mitchell

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Speaker 3: Tinsley could flirt with that. Maybe Keishawn Williams, I liked

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Speaker 3: what I saw from him at the end of last year.

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Speaker 3: They let that guy get out of the building and

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Speaker 3: go to the Jets. No, by the way, I think

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Speaker 3: he had four return touchdowns this year in Isaiah Williams.

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Speaker 2: I just say, do you think that player is can

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Speaker 2: be on the roster right now or is that a

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Speaker 2: player they need to to go get.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's on the roster right now. I

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Speaker 3: think Jamar Chase is that guy. I don't know why

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Speaker 3: there's not as much of that kind of talking about Jsn.

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Speaker 3: Jamar needs to be in the backfield more often, and

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Speaker 3: Jamar even talked about it like I would be chipped

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Speaker 3: if I was running those routes that Jasn was running.

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Speaker 3: And why the Rams didn't hip him. I have no idea,

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Speaker 3: but like I would like to see more of that,

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Speaker 3: just to he ate those moments where you know, in

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Speaker 3: defense nowadays, because of these schematics, there's so many different rules,

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Speaker 3: and I know match coverage is a big thing in

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Speaker 3: the NFL right now. Certain route compensation combinations turning in

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Speaker 3: the man, certain route combinations turning into his zone. One

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Speaker 3: guy has the running back, one guy has this guy

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Speaker 3: coming out of the backfield. When you put a wide

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Speaker 3: receiver in the backfield, it messes up all those rules

576
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 3: and it creates, you know, confusion and frustration for the defense.

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Speaker 3: I just wish the Bengals would do that more. And

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Speaker 3: maybe that's a way to tap into those explosive plays

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Speaker 3: that they haven't had enough of.

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Speaker 2: So that that's just a that's a look. The Patriots

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Speaker 2: and the Seahawks operated their off seasons in a way

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Speaker 2: that put themselves in a position. You still got to

583
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Speaker 2: go make the calls. You got to make the plays. Yes,

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Speaker 2: but going into the year, they had done enough work

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Speaker 2: in the off season and multiple off seasons to make

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Speaker 2: it that they gave themselves the opportunity to go out

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Speaker 2: on the field, produce and get to where they are now.

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Speaker 2: It's something that the Bengals can still do. You got

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Speaker 2: to hit on on your free agents. These teams also

590
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: hit on their draft picks.

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Speaker 3: We can. We can highlight that as we.

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Speaker 2: Get closer to the Super Bowl, but there are similarities

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Speaker 2: that you can take and say, Okay, how did they

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Speaker 2: do it and how can we get to that point

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Speaker 2: where we're doing it? That is obviously the goal going

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Speaker 2: forward for the Cincinnati Bengals. Will take a break plenty

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Speaker 2: more still to go On ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 1: Station, Your front row Seat to the Fierces debates in

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Speaker 1: sports Moegger today at three pm on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 1: There is Tony Pikes since e three sixty on ESPN

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Speaker 1: fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back since the three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: Sports Station. A service of our front a skyline Chili.

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Speaker 2: Anytime you're feeling good and hungry. It is always Skyline time.

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Speaker 2: Happy to have you along, Thankful to have you along.

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Speaker 2: As we continue down our path and start now really

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Speaker 2: the off season mode for the Cincinnati Bengals, we will

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Speaker 2: mock a little bit of that off season. We'll spend

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Speaker 2: time in our number three today as well on some

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Speaker 2: Major League Baseball top one hundred prospects. South Stewart is

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Speaker 2: on that list. We'll get some south Stewart audio and

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Speaker 2: what he's done in his off season as well. Before

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Speaker 2: we get to any of that real quick. We touched

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Speaker 2: on it briefly Austin, but the idea of Joe Brady

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Speaker 2: as the next head coach of the Buffalo Bills. It's

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Speaker 2: been a weird coaching cycle because you've had these teams

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Speaker 2: that have latched on and got their guy rather quickly,

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Speaker 2: and then you had these teams that the longer it went,

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Speaker 2: the more you wondered, Okay, what happening, what's going wrong?

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Speaker 3: What is in clicking You?

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Speaker 2: Certainly think of the Browns right now, who can't find

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Speaker 2: a coach, not only to name their head coach, they

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Speaker 2: can't find one to interview right now. Seemingly everyone keeps

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Speaker 2: backing out of that do you view this in Buffalo

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Speaker 2: as he was always the guy they just wanted to

626
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Speaker 2: do their due diligence with others, or this was the

627
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Speaker 2: guy after the first couple didn't pan out.

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Speaker 3: I don't really know. I'm a little surprised. I think,

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Speaker 3: you know, when you're also a little bit late in

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Speaker 3: the process and you know, the John Harballs of the

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Speaker 3: world have already made their decisions, or Kevin Stefanski perhaps

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Speaker 3: even who's being introduced in Atlanta as we speak. We've

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Speaker 3: said the entire time there's a thin pool out there

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Speaker 3: of like top flight head coaching candidates. I don't know

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Speaker 3: that Mike McDaniel was ever a real possibility going in

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Speaker 3: the division from one team to another. I think Brian

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Speaker 3: Dabole could have made a little bit of sense. But

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Speaker 3: maybe there's some some bridges burned there with Josh Allen,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, it's I just wonder how much

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Speaker 3: of this was the owner of the Bills, Terry Pagoula,

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Speaker 3: and the quarterback Josh Allen. Yeah, and you know, Joe

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Speaker 3: Brady is highly thought of, but he's also at times

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Speaker 3: this year with Buffalo been questioned like hardcore question. We've

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Speaker 3: had those conversations on this show. I mean when I

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Speaker 3: found out the news, I immediately went over to Scott Sloan,

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Speaker 3: our big Bills fan in the building. He was not happy.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of Bills fans just feel like, okay,

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Speaker 3: I guess I just wonder how much Josh Allen had

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Speaker 3: to say and how much he impacted.

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Speaker 2: And I think so much of it well, because you

651
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: you ran off a guy that was wildly successful, and

652
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 2: you you heard a lot of those players in the

653
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 2: locker room voice their support for Sean McDermott. So it

654
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 2: was it was a unique situation and you kind of

655
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 2: you let the dust settle and you see what sticks.

656
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 2: I just I kind of felt the same way. It's like, oh, okay,

657
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 2: Joe Brady. It wasn't a oh man, they got Joe

658
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 2: Brady leading him. Now watch out. So I think it

659
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 2: is it's interesting what that will be going forward. Let's

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Speaker 2: take let's take a break, one final break for the

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Speaker 2: first hour. When we come back, let's look at some

662
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Speaker 2: of this Bengals mock off season that's happening right now,

663
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 2: and let's let's work together on some things that maybe

664
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Speaker 2: we agree with or maybe we don't agree with. What

665
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: the Bengals need to do this offseason. That comes next

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Speaker 2: right here on the Home of the Bengals, ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 2: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 1: Sixty continues now on ESPN fifteen thirty Welcome Back.

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Speaker 2: It is since E three p sixty on ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 2: thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. And I don't know for sure, Austin,

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Speaker 2: I would assume Paul Danner Junior will join Moeger today

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Speaker 2: this afternoon. So you know, Paul does this every year

673
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 2: via the Athletic where he kind of looks at the

674
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Speaker 2: Bengals twenty twenty six mock off season. I think they'll

675
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Speaker 2: cover that today. Our guy Charlie Goldsmith, who we talked

676
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 2: to on Fridays, also did one today for Fox nineteen.

677
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 2: We're going to talk to Fox nineteen's Joe Daneman in

678
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Speaker 2: just a few moments, but I wanted to kind of

679
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 2: to piggyback off what Charlie had to say in his

680
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 2: Bengals offseason with some things that I thought were.

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Speaker 3: Layups to an extent before we do this, I have

682
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Speaker 3: two things. Yes Sunday on seven hundred WLW, Paul is

683
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Speaker 3: going to join me at three thirty five nice PM.

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Speaker 3: To talk about this Number two. Have you gone through

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Speaker 3: this exercise yourself?

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00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 7: No?

687
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 3: Not yet? Have you? Yes? Okay? Several times? Okay, So

688
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 3: I was just curious if you had done it yourself

689
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 3: several times. Oh my gosh. I do this from now

690
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 3: until the and then after the draft, and then I

691
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 3: do it all year. Yeah, it's my favorite thing.

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Speaker 2: So what Charlie started with is eliminating off season distractions.

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Speaker 2: That to me, Austin is one of the keys. Whether

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Speaker 2: that is you know what we've seen with Trey Hendrickson,

695
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 2: there was the Shamar Stewart side of things. This team

696
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 2: more often than not has been snake bitten by off

697
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 2: season distractions, and some they can't control. Sometimes a distraction

698
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 2: could come in the form of an injury or rehab

699
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 2: or something that's not allowing them to fully participate. Other times,

700
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 2: distractions are are kind of brought on by yourself. So

701
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 2: one of the ideas that I would take and run

702
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 2: with from Charlie is rewarding some of your top players

703
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 2: and getting their extensions done For the Bengals, this would

704
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 2: be Chase Brown and DJ Turner. And again, sometimes these

705
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 2: negotiations take longer, sometimes you can wrap them up quickly.

706
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Speaker 2: I feel like in most instances, getting it done sooner

707
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 2: rather than later pans out much better. Would you have

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Speaker 2: any issue Have you had any issue with the idea

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Speaker 2: of getting an extension done with Chase Brown and DJ Turner.

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Speaker 3: No, and I would actually add a third player onto that.

711
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 3: I would do Dak so well on my mock off season.

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Speaker 3: Charlie and I agree on that. It was like, let's

713
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Speaker 3: get it going, Let's get these guys under contract for

714
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Speaker 3: the future, Let's eliminate the distractions, let's know what we have,

715
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Speaker 3: let's start to build around them. So I agree, I

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Speaker 3: gave extensions to Chase Brown, to GJ. Turner, and to Daxo.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Charlie highlighted the backup quarterback position, and maybe Joe

718
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Speaker 2: Flacco is not in the price range that you're looking

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Speaker 2: to spend, but he highlights a player like case Keenum,

720
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Speaker 2: regardless if it's Flocko, if it's Keenumould you lean the

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Speaker 2: backup as a guy who has experience an upside or

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Speaker 2: would you take a look at a late round draft

723
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Speaker 2: pick or something like that for backup quarterback?

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Speaker 3: I think just because of the sheer amount of needs

725
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Speaker 3: and having to fill out the rest of the roster.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that I would feel great about a

727
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 3: late round quarterback. I feel like that would kind of

728
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Speaker 3: be a waste of a draft pick. So yeah, I

729
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 3: would go towards somebody who you feel like can operate

730
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Speaker 3: the offense in the absence of Joe Burrow now Flacco.

731
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Speaker 3: It is going to be a little bit more expensive,

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Speaker 3: and you know, there's maybe a little bit less cap

733
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Speaker 3: space than anybody originally thought. I know, you know, I've

734
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Speaker 3: been talking for months about how much cap space they have,

735
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Speaker 3: and you know I've been basing that over over the

736
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Speaker 3: cap and now they've adjusted that number down quite a bit.

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Speaker 3: There's still plenty of room for the Bengals to do

738
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Speaker 3: what they need to do. But are you going to

739
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Speaker 3: be willing to put in four five million dollars into

740
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Speaker 3: the backup quarterback position to Joe Flaccough. I don't know

741
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Speaker 3: if they would.

742
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Speaker 2: One of the things that I like most and I've

743
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 2: taken away from Charlie and I've been on this as well.

744
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 2: Keep the offense as simple as possible, not in a

745
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 2: sense of your plays, but the moves you have to make. Right,

746
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Speaker 2: So some ajp Ryan that's your running back too, Mi

747
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 2: Kasicki as your tight end? Are you going to be

748
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: able to find someone better than Orlando Brown junior at

749
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Speaker 2: that price? And can you resign Dalton Rosner?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 2: Those to me, Austin are not major moves you have

752
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 2: to make, but you could make those, get them done,

753
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Speaker 2: and your focus can shift solely to the defensive side.

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Speaker 3: Of the ball.

755
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Speaker 2: And like you mentioned, we mentioned this earlier in the show.

756
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Speaker 2: If you're looking for explosiveness and maybe during the draft

757
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 2: you go all defense, but you still keep an eye

758
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 2: out for a wide receiver number three. I'm great with that,

759
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 2: but I feel like there are some simple moves to

760
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Speaker 2: make on offense that would then equate to not having

761
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 2: to worry about that side of the ball. And now boom,

762
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: all the focus that the organization goes to the defensive

763
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Speaker 2: side of the ball. Sure, sign me up for all

764
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 2: of that. What do you do on the defensive side

765
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Speaker 2: of the ball outside of Dax Hill and DJ Turner?

766
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Speaker 2: What are your priorities on defense?

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Speaker 3: It's continue to fix the defensive line and continue to

768
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Speaker 3: invest in the defensive line. Now I'm via the draft

769
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,479
Speaker 3: or via free agency? Are both both? Okay? I think

770
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Speaker 3: that's how many different guys that they need up front,

771
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 3: and especially if you're going to be, you know, giving

772
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 3: extensions to the cornerbacks like DJ and Dax, you're going

773
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 3: to start to build around them a little bit. I

774
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 3: like the idea of Jalen Davis coming back. I don't

775
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 3: know that you should put all your eggs in that basket,

776
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 3: but I do like that idea. I think they should

777
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Speaker 3: draft an edge rusher. I think they should sign an

778
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 3: edge rusher. At the bare minimum, there should be two

779
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 3: new names in that position group. I h.

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Speaker 2: You're always looking their ways to free up money. Charlie

781
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 2: highlighted cutting a guy like Oron Burke's and Cody Ford

782
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 2: would free up a little over five million. Are you

783
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Speaker 2: willing to move on with those types of players.

784
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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 2: I liked the idea because I think this defense needs

786
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 2: and this is I think my core on defense. I

787
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 2: just want defensive playmakers. I don't even know the position yet,

788
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 2: whether it's safety, whether it's linebacker, whether it's interior edge

789
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 2: rusher on the D line. I want to I want

790
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 2: to evaluate who's out there in free agency, and I

791
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 2: want to go sign the best possible playmaker on defense,

792
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 2: and then from there let the rest of my offseason

793
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 2: come into place.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to.

795
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 2: I don't want to pigeonhole myself on the bangles and say, well,

796
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 2: we need an interior defensive lineman, playmaker, and that's what

797
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 2: we're going to look for, and then you pass up

798
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 2: on maybe a playmaking safety or playmaking ed rusher or

799
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: play making linebacker. Identify the best playmaker on defense and

800
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Speaker 2: try to sign that person and then move on from there.

801
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 2: Does that make sense?

802
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: Yes?

803
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: I I there are too many holes on this defense

804
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: to limit yourself and say well, this is the position

805
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 2: we have to sign. Again, could you sign a veteran

806
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 2: linebacker or two. Absolutely? Can you build the defense in

807
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: the draft, Absolutely, But I really do think that you

808
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: need to go out there in free agency and identify

809
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 2: the top one or two playmakers day one ready guys

810
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 2: and sign those guys on defense, and just by doing that,

811
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Speaker 2: I think you set yourself up for some success along

812
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 2: the way. Any others that are on your list of

813
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 2: offseason checklists that you want to do or need to do.

814
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 3: No, I mean I think we pretty much covered it.

815
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously the safety position has to be addressed,

816
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 3: but extend the young guys who have earned their extensions.

817
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,919
Speaker 3: Sign Dalton Reisner add at least three names, at least

818
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 3: two names to the defensive line room, and you're gonna

819
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:06,439
Speaker 3: need a backup like interior d Lineman as well. Yeah.

820
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 3: I think that pretty much sums it up. Let's let's

821
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Speaker 3: get to our break. Hour one is done.

822
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Speaker 2: Our two starts next with our guy from Fox nineteen,

823
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 2: Joe Daniman, will join us at the top of hour

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Speaker 2: two on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, so uc.

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Speaker 8: KWY, Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: Pike Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati from Cincinnati. This is

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to our.

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834
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Speaker 3: Let's kick it off the only way we know how to.

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Speaker 2: On Tuesdays at hour two, our guy from Fox nineteen

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Speaker 2: joining us, Joe Daniman.

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Speaker 3: Right now, what's up, Joe?

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Speaker 4: Tony Austin. Good afternoon, Tony. How are things at your

839
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 4: house with the kids home from school?

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00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 2: I said at the start of the show today Joe

841
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 2: that I don't talk about politics on this show, and

842
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 2: I don't even know if it falls under the politics category.

843
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 2: But these kids need to get back to school. I

844
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 2: would use the term men farrel. Farrell is a term

845
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 2: that comes to mind right now. There was a very

846
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 2: nice vase broken in our home earlier this morning from

847
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 2: a rogue basketball shot from our five year old.

848
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Speaker 3: Our daughter is losing her mind.

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Speaker 2: It's just I don't know how it has to happen,

850
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 2: but we got to do something about getting them back

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Speaker 2: into the classroom.

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00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 4: There is now a dent in my basement wall for

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00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 4: some reason. My teenagers, my oldest tour seventeen and fifteen,

854
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 4: and they've decided that this is the week they want

855
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 4: to get back into NERF wars. Oh yeah, of course,

856
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 4: my a NERF war zone and has now resulted in

857
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 4: dense and paint chipping on the wall because they're not

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00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 4: in school now. Shout out Saint Pias Elementary in Edgewood, Kentucky,

859
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 4: because my youngest is in school. Wow, how about that?

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00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 4: That's toughness, man?

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, to be back in school.

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00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 2: Is there any end in sight? Is there any are

863
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 2: these kids going back to school anytime soon.

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Speaker 4: I will personally drag them out of bed tomorrow morning

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Speaker 4: and drop them off at the doors of their high school.

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00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 4: Whether it's open or closed, They're going tomorrow.

867
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 2: Now, I do have to ask, do you have a

868
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 2: lot of teams have that locker room countdown clock that happens?

869
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 2: Do you have one of those in your home for

870
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,240
Speaker 2: when you get to go to spring training?

871
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 9: Oh?

872
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 4: I wish. That's a great idea. Trust me. I know

873
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 4: the number of days in my head, but there's not

874
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 4: an hour or minute countdown. But man, yeah, we're less

875
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,720
Speaker 4: than three weeks now until I get to spend four

876
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 4: days in Arizona. And every day I look at the

877
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 4: forecast and you see these teams and below freezing temperatures,

878
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 4: I start dreaming of seventy five in sunny and watching

879
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 4: the Cincinnati Reds do PfP in Arizona.

880
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 2: Now, you mentioned a dent that's happening. Are you sure

881
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 2: this dent was caused by your children? And not buy

882
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 2: an Aaron jump shot that I saw.

883
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,720
Speaker 4: Ouch. Let me tell you a personal story in here, Tony.

884
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 4: There comes a point in every man's life where they

885
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 4: realize it's catching up to them. Yeah, okay. So I

886
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 4: was twenty nine years old visiting my brother in law

887
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 4: East Chicago and playing pickup basketball was like my love.

888
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 4: It was my most favorite thing to do. And we

889
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 4: were playing pickup basketball in Chicago on just a black

890
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 4: top hoop. And it's that day I realized my knees

891
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 4: started to hurt and I lost the step. And I'm

892
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 4: not kidding you. I went back and I was completely distraught,

893
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 4: almost at the point of tears, knowing that the prime

894
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 4: of my life ended that day on that blacktop court

895
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 4: in Chicago. However, I have since noticed that fifteen years later,

896
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 4: even though I've lost now two or three steps, you

897
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 4: never lose a jump shot. The jump shot stays well.

898
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 3: You you posted a video video.

899
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 2: Fox nineteen posted a video and you're outside shooting jumpers.

900
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 2: They've dubbed you snow Curry. Here's my only issue. Here's

901
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 2: my only issue with the jump shots. I just didn't

902
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 2: see you make the adjustments. You missed multiple shots far left.

903
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 2: Where was the adjustment? Was it the thin air? It

904
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 2: didn't look like there was much wind. Because I do

905
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 2: have questions on that, but I also wanted to say

906
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 2: at the end of the video, I thought You're execution

907
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: of the snow angel was near perfect.

908
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,919
Speaker 4: Great, well, thank you very much for that part, because

909
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 4: that's important because the station challenge was send us a

910
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,240
Speaker 4: snow angel, and so I had to hit the snow angel. Okay,

911
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 4: so the snow angel was hit. Now the jump shot,

912
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna sit here and defend myself. The tape

913
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 4: tells the story.

914
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 3: That was bad.

915
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 4: However, would you go outside, and you know this, if

916
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 4: you play ball, and you know ball, if you have

917
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 4: anything tucked in, you're restricted on your Torso sure, so

918
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 4: I had. I had gloves on. I had two tucked

919
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 4: in shirts, a sweatshirt, a coat, and gloves. So the

920
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 4: shot itself was always going to be bad. Now, I

921
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 4: didn't think I was going to reveal just how bad

922
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 4: it was until I realized it would make for a

923
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 4: fun video. Laugh and if you can't laugh at yourself, yeah,

924
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 4: thanks for respecting that. But I will say this, Okay,

925
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 4: I will say this. I'm not gonna jump on your

926
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 4: show and brad about an old, broken down man's basketball game. Okay,

927
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 4: but if you ever want the truth on what I

928
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 4: was like in pickup hoops, next time you have Richard

929
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 4: Skinner on okay, boy, ask Richard Skinner about the Tuesday

930
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 4: morning local media rut Man and I'll let him describe

931
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 4: the kind of player I was in my pride.

932
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 3: Love it, I love it.

933
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 2: Let me ask you some some Bengals here this this

934
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 2: period of the offseason, you are, you're looking ahead, but

935
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 2: I also think there's a an area of time where

936
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 2: you can look at who's still playing. And I know

937
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 2: you're looking forward to the super Bowl as so many

938
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 2: people are. But we talked earlier on the show, how

939
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 2: did these teams get here? Are there ways in which

940
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 2: the Bengals can operate this offseason to put them in

941
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 2: a position like the Seahawks and like the Patriots. And

942
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 2: one of the things that these two teams have in

943
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 2: common they spend a lot of money in the offseason

944
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,720
Speaker 2: last year, but they didn't just throw the money randomly

945
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 2: at the wall. They seemingly hit on all the fits

946
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 2: in the offseason. Is that the biggest thing for the

947
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 2: Bengals right now, because we know they have money to spend,

948
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 2: we know they've been willing to spend it in the

949
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 2: last couple of years, but it's the idea of can

950
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 2: they spend it the right way and If so, how

951
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 2: quickly can it get turned around?

952
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 4: That's such a great point. And I think it's a

953
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 4: little bit unique in New England's path to the Super

954
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 4: Bowl as opposed to Seattle, because I think it's a

955
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 4: little bit incomplete of us trying to break down and

956
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 4: really grap exactly what New England did, because it feels

957
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 4: like they got and whether this is incorrect or not,

958
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 4: it feels like they got some breaks along the way

959
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 4: with the quarterbacks they faced, with what happened Sunday in Denver,

960
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 4: facing a backup quarterback and then having the lead as

961
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 4: a torrential snowstorm hit Denver right during the middle of

962
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 4: what was supposed to be a great set I can have,

963
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 4: But I think Seattle might be a little bit better

964
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 4: of a model. And you look not just to Seattle

965
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 4: this year, but to the last couple of Super Bowl winners.

966
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 4: Philadelphia won Super Bowl fifty nine with the number one

967
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 4: defense in the NFL, Kansas City won Super Bowl fifty

968
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 4: eight with a number two defense in the NFL. Even

969
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 4: back to Super Bowl fifty seven, the winner had a

970
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 4: top ten defense as well. So what kind of feels

971
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,919
Speaker 4: like then, with excuse me, New England and Seattle both

972
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 4: having top ten defenses this year, and looking at recent

973
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 4: Super Bowl winners who also kind of fit that criteria,

974
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 4: it kind of feels like that's a starting point. And

975
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 4: too many times, I think we here in Cincinnati said, oh,

976
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 4: if the Bengals can just get a defense that's league average,

977
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 4: if they can just be better than bad, they can

978
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 4: be Okay, Burrow, Chase and Higgins will carry the day

979
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 4: and the Bengals will get to the super Bowl. I'm

980
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 4: not sure that's the case because if you go back

981
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 4: to even to the Bengals Super Bowl run, and I

982
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 4: think anybody who's re litigated that run for the Bengals

983
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 4: will tell you at times it was carried by their

984
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 4: defense getting them all the way through the AFC. So

985
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 4: I think that's the one thing we have to look

986
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 4: at here. It's not just getting the Bengals defense to

987
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 4: okay or league average. The Bengals defense has to take

988
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 4: a really big jump. It depends what you're wanting, Okay,

989
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 4: if you're wanting the Bengals to get back to the

990
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 4: playoffs and win the AFC North and a season with

991
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 4: so much turnover at the head coaching positions in the

992
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 4: AFC North, if you just want them to get back

993
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 4: to the playoffs, a league average defense will probably do that.

994
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 4: But if you want them to play in a Super

995
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 4: Bowl and win the AFC Championship, the Bengalis have to

996
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 4: figure out a way to get this from a bad

997
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 4: defense to a good defense almost seemingly overnight, in one offseason.

998
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 4: Because we've talked last off season about the idea of

999
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 4: having two off seasons to build this thing. Defensively, I'm

1000
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 4: not sure there's many building blocks from last year. There

1001
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 4: might be, and everybody has different growth patterns and timeline,

1002
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 4: so there might be some growth and some building blocks

1003
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 4: from last offseason to this offseason. But now the urgency

1004
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,439
Speaker 4: of getting this defense from Okay, it was really bad

1005
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty five to getting it towards the top

1006
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 4: ten to compete it for a Super Bowl. That's the

1007
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 4: daunting task the Bengals front office space.

1008
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 2: On that note, I saw a guy Charlie Goldsmith kind

1009
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:26,919
Speaker 2: of built on Fox nineteen his ideal offseason, and one

1010
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 2: of Charlie's main points was eliminating the offseason distractions, and

1011
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 2: that would be getting an extension done with DJ Turner

1012
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 2: with Chase Brown. Austin added on that he would try

1013
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 2: to get a deal done with Dax Hill. Is that

1014
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 2: the first step for this team, because as you mentioned,

1015
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 2: there weren't many pieces on defense that you look to

1016
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 2: and say, Okay, that's a guy to build around. If

1017
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 2: you can build around the few that you have there

1018
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,919
Speaker 2: and make sure they're here, that seems like it would

1019
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 2: be the most ideal start.

1020
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it fits the timeline of what you can

1021
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 4: do and gives you a better understanding of what you

1022
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 4: have to do once you get to the free agency

1023
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 4: period and then the NFL draft period. If you know

1024
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 4: you have certain positions taken care of for multiple years,

1025
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 4: in several years, then you can check that off the

1026
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 4: list of what you have to go out and prioritize

1027
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 4: in free agencies in the draft. I think Charlie is

1028
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 4: right where I was always forever against a second contract

1029
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 4: with the running back after seeing Joe Mixon and not

1030
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 4: just Joe Mixon the way it played out here, but

1031
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 4: across the league and the way it played out. But

1032
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 4: I feel like if you guys talked about having more

1033
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 4: explosive players on this team to help them make the

1034
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 4: jump they have to make next season. Chase Brown, is

1035
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 4: that even though he didn't have a lot of explosive

1036
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 4: moments in the first half of the season, you can

1037
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 4: see he was that close to making really big play

1038
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 4: for this team in the run game, and I think

1039
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 4: you want that kind of an explosive player on your

1040
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 4: roster at that position to help this team take another

1041
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 4: step going forward. And then DJ Turner has earned it.

1042
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 4: He deserves it. If you want to limit distractions, you

1043
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 4: lock that guy up because right now, I would say

1044
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 4: he's probably your best piece defensively going forward. So him

1045
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 4: entering his final year of his contract, if you were

1046
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 4: able to knock that out, take care of that, and

1047
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 4: maybe even at dak Still as well, and extend three

1048
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 4: guys who have earned it. And for the longest time

1049
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 4: that was always the Bengals way. It was developed reward,

1050
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 4: and these guys were three guys they've drafted, they've developed,

1051
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 4: and I think it's time now to reward them to

1052
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 4: become some of those foundational players behind the big three.

1053
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 4: Because you have your tiers, right if you're building a pyramid,

1054
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 4: this is one of those tiers, this next tier of

1055
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 4: players with Chase Brown, DJ Tournament, DAK Still. So I

1056
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 4: think Charlie's right when you look at the timeline of

1057
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 4: the NFL offseason. If you can get this done, then

1058
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 4: you know what you have to hit on and we

1059
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 4: all know what that is when you start talking about,

1060
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 4: you know, the front seven defensively, the safety position. Once

1061
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 4: they get to free agency in the NFL draft, you

1062
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 4: have a better position of where your team is going forward,

1063
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,919
Speaker 4: not just this year, but the next couple of years.

1064
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,439
Speaker 4: I think you have a better chance of attacking free

1065
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 4: agency in the draft and the pieces you need knowing

1066
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 4: the pieces you already have locked up.

1067
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 3: Going back to the explosive plays, and you obviously mentioned

1068
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 3: the role Chase Brown plays in that we know about

1069
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 3: Mike Kasiki. That's the reason those guys are here. It

1070
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 3: was not a good season for Andrea Yoshavas. Do you

1071
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 3: feel like you know that's that third wide receiver is

1072
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 3: a position that maybe is flying under the radar that

1073
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 3: the Bengals are going to address. Or do they look

1074
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 3: around and say, we got Chase Brown, we got Mike Kaseki,

1075
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 3: we can live with Andrea Josevash Or do you expect

1076
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 3: them to address that position and give him a somebody

1077
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 3: to battle against in training camp?

1078
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 4: I do expect them to address that position. It's not

1079
00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 4: going to be a priority. I kind of feel at

1080
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 4: this point almost like it's and this is the wrong word,

1081
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 4: it's a luxury. But but I do think it's something

1082
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 4: they have to address, and I think speed and explosiveness

1083
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 4: Austin are the correct terms to use when looking at

1084
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 4: that wide receiver three position, because they aren't getting that

1085
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 4: with Andrea Yoshibos. I do think it's something that I

1086
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 4: would look at in the draft. I think that's something

1087
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 4: you could look at in the third or fourth round

1088
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 4: as finding someone there who can really help this team

1089
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 4: and not necessarily prioritize it in free agency, but look

1090
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 4: for it in the draft because I do think speed

1091
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 4: explosiveness is something that really could help this team at

1092
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 4: that spot. But other than that, outside of that spot,

1093
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 4: I'm not sure I touched the offense much other than

1094
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 4: bringing back Dalton Reisner. I would love to see Mike

1095
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 4: Kasicki and this offense with someone at that wide receiver

1096
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 4: three spot. You can really pressure a defense with speed

1097
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 4: in big plays. I do think it's something that is missing.

1098
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 4: I'm just curious how they address it. I do think

1099
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 4: they will to answer your question. I do think they

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01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 4: will address it. I would think they would want to

1101
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 4: address that in the draft, not necessarily through free agency.

1102
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 3: You just mentioned Dalton Reisner. Why haven't they signed.

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01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 4: Him yet, That's a great question. It seems like a

1104
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 4: slam dunk, and Dalton knows that. Dalton said it the

1105
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 4: day of his final interview on clearout day at pay

1106
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 4: Course Stadium that it's a business and understanding it's the business.

1107
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 4: These things take time and some negotiation. But it feels

1108
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 4: like a slam dunk to bring him back, not only

1109
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 4: on his band, not only on the Bengals front office end,

1110
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 4: but also you listen to what Marius Mims and Ted

1111
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 4: Terris say about him and how he fit and how

1112
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 4: he helped to Marius Mims start to unlock some of

1113
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 4: the best football he played in the second half of

1114
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 4: the season. It feels like a no brainer, a slam

1115
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 4: dunk to get this done. I anticipate, I hope might

1116
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 4: be the better word, that they will get it done

1117
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 4: because it feels like something that should have been done already.

1118
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 2: Do you sit back. I know we talked about the

1119
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 2: off season coaching searches. Are the Bengals actually in a

1120
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 2: enviable position in the AFC North because they have relied

1121
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 2: on and we've used the term a lot continuity in

1122
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 2: the offseason. You look at what Pittsburgh did as kind

1123
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 2: of a whole hum hire and Mike McCarthy. It went

1124
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 2: against everything that they've done in coaching hires by getting

1125
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 2: those young, up and coming guys, and they get Mike McCarthy.

1126
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 2: Jesse Minter, I think, well respected, but first head coaching opportunity,

1127
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 2: and the Cleveland Browns can't seem to zero in on anybody.

1128
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 2: So we've talked back and forth about the continuity is

1129
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 2: at the best play here at least as it stands

1130
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 2: in the AFC North right. Now, does it put the

1131
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 2: Bengals in the best spot going forward?

1132
01:02:56,720 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 4: I guess, But I'm sure a lot of people listening

1133
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 4: to this would rather there be change in Cincinnati at

1134
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 4: head coach. And you look at the two teams playing

1135
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 4: in the Super Bowl. Look what a change that coach

1136
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 4: did for them in a short period of time. And

1137
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 4: here they are now the chance to win a championship.

1138
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 4: So you know, it's one of those double edged swords that, yeah,

1139
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 4: there's continuity, and for a team with a mountain of

1140
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:28,439
Speaker 4: questions about its roster, not worrying about finding a new

1141
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 4: coach or acclimating a new coach and his staff to

1142
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 4: a new organization, I'm sure is a bonus and a plots.

1143
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 4: But also at the same time, you know, we've seen

1144
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 4: what new energy can do, not only for the two

1145
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 4: teams playing in the Super Bowl, but I think about

1146
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 4: Chicago and what Ben Johnson and his energy and new

1147
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 4: vision brought to Chicago Bears and how close they were

1148
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,479
Speaker 4: to having a chance to go to the Super Bowl.

1149
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 4: So it's one of those things that sure you can

1150
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 4: point to and you can write about and make the

1151
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 4: arguments for continuity being a good thing, but also at

1152
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 4: the same time, you could use the word continuity as

1153
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 4: saying the team is settling for what they have currently

1154
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 4: a coach. But the reality is the Bengals are going

1155
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 4: forward running it back with what they have with Zach

1156
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 4: Taylor at head coach and the coaching staff as is.

1157
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:21,919
Speaker 4: And I think if we were too and I'm sure

1158
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 4: people listening to this might disagree, but I think if

1159
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 4: we were going to handicap what were the biggest issues

1160
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 4: for the Bengals last year, we would talk about the

1161
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 4: roster and the personnel on the roster, more than the

1162
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 4: coaching staff, and so therefore this team not having the

1163
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 4: questions about finding new coaches and acclimating those new coaches

1164
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 4: and can zero in on finding people who can make

1165
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 4: this roster better, finding people who can be day one

1166
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 4: starters for a defense that has to take a huge leap.

1167
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 4: That being the priority is probably a good thing for

1168
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 4: this organization to kind of have that central focused and

1169
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 4: that singular focus of finding better defensive players for this

1170
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 4: team to take the jump they need next year.

1171
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 2: I'll ask you on the Reds, I want to switch

1172
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 2: gears here. You're gonna head out to spring training and

1173
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 2: the Reds offseason. I think by some has been up

1174
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 2: and down. I think the bullpen is better. I think

1175
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,439
Speaker 2: the offense is in the similar spot to which they were.

1176
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 2: You look at what Austin Hayes and Miguel Andrew Harr

1177
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 2: and Gavin Lux did. Those are three of some of

1178
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 2: the highest batting averages on the team. Gavin Lux hit

1179
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 2: number three in the last game of the year against

1180
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 2: the Dodgers at Dodger Stadium. He's no longer with the team,

1181
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 2: and it felt Joe when the Gavin Lux move was made.

1182
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 2: It was like, all right, here comes something else. The

1183
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 2: Reds are going to add something else. Since then, now

1184
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 2: we've heard from Chris Vaalaka, who's talked about maybe the

1185
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 2: approach of the Reds are going to use, and we've

1186
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 2: heard Terry FRANKCNA talking about not running as much. And

1187
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 2: at the core of it, this team still has not

1188
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 2: identified hitters. And now we're hearing well they're kind of

1189
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 2: waiting out to see what happens with this TV deal.

1190
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 2: Do you feel like there's still in addition with a

1191
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 2: bat to be made or are you a little bit

1192
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 2: more apprehensive of that.

1193
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 4: I'm concerned. It's January twenty seventh and a team that

1194
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 4: was bottom ten in Major League Baseball last year in

1195
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 4: offense and a team that was shut out thirteen times

1196
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 4: is not addressing it as aggressively as I hope they would.

1197
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 4: And we understand the restraints, and I feel like sometimes

1198
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 4: that's a bit of a crutch, but I think we

1199
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 4: understand the restraints that they have as far as payroll goes.

1200
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 4: But when the Gavin lux trade was made, I thought

1201
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 4: that was a domino and it may be still and

1202
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 4: I think it's hopeful that it still is just a

1203
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 4: domino on the path for this team to find somebody

1204
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 4: because as much as we want to believe, and I

1205
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 4: think it's a fair belief to believe that Ellie d

1206
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 4: la Cruz will return to in the conversation of MVP

1207
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 4: type player this coming season, that noel Vie Marte should

1208
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 4: be a middle of the order hitter who can hit

1209
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 4: twenty five home runs, as Matt McClain should return to

1210
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 4: one of the future stars of this team. And I

1211
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 4: think those are all reasonable expectations, and people might push

1212
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 4: back on the Matt McClain expectation, but I do believe

1213
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 4: he still has all star level baseball ability inside of

1214
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 4: his back. Even if those three players take that jump,

1215
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 4: You're talking about a roster that just doesn't have depths

1216
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 4: at offense right now, and that's tested throughout the year. Yes,

1217
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 4: the rotation is great and it's deep. Yes, the Reds

1218
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 4: have finally invested in middle relief, and that seems exciting

1219
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 4: for this coming year. But when you lose LUs Hayes

1220
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 4: andrew Ard, not just three of the best batting averages,

1221
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 4: literally Tony the top three batting average the second half

1222
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 4: of the season for the Reds, that's concerning. Those were

1223
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 4: middle of the order lineup guys against the Dodgers in

1224
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 4: the playoffs, and the Reds have done nothing to add

1225
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 4: to it. So maybe, yes, here in the next three

1226
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 4: weeks the Reds do something, and we don't expect them

1227
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 4: to knock our socks off, but they do need to

1228
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 4: find someone who can supplement this offense because right now,

1229
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 4: they're just hoping too much that certain players take the

1230
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,719
Speaker 4: kind of jumps that even if we expect them too

1231
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 4: and they do, they're going to be tested with their

1232
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 4: depth throughout the season, and they don't have enough offensive

1233
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 4: depth right now for me to be convinced they're going

1234
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 4: to take the kind of step we expect them to make.

1235
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 2: Lastly, and we'll dive into this much more as spring

1236
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 2: training draws near. I just the direction of which they're

1237
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 2: going to me is confusing based on what we're hearing

1238
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 2: from the organization. Terry Francona highlighted that they're not going

1239
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 2: to be a team that scores a lot of runs.

1240
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 2: Terry Francona also noted that with Lance mccalis, they're not

1241
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 2: going to a team that is too aggressive on the

1242
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 2: base pass. Chris Valaka essentially said that every other team's

1243
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 2: model coming into gabp is to hit home runs, but

1244
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 2: that's not who they're going to be. We've heard about

1245
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 2: the lack of money and how they're waiting on the

1246
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 2: TV deal yet Joe at the core of this, they

1247
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:18,720
Speaker 2: tried to make an offer to Kyle Schwarber, so they

1248
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 2: had the money to do that, and Kyle Schwarber is

1249
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 2: the type of player against what the red said they

1250
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 2: want to do. He just hits home run. So as

1251
01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 2: a Reds fan, where do you land on what is

1252
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 2: the truth and who this team wants to be? I

1253
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 2: think there's just a lot of mixed signals.

1254
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that the Reds kind of looked at

1255
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 4: Schwarber as a bit of a unicorn, considering his ability,

1256
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 4: his skill set, and also what it would have done

1257
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:51,520
Speaker 4: to energize the fan base and had real tangible effects

1258
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 4: when it came to the ticket sales and getting people

1259
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 4: to the build. I don't think there's anybody else that

1260
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 4: on that tier of player that they would have viewed

1261
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 4: was worth the kind of financial and gambles. Not the

1262
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 4: right war, but when you're in the market size, the

1263
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 4: Reds are the financial commitment that that Kyle Schwarber would

1264
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:16,839
Speaker 4: have given them because I think they thought the return

1265
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 4: on investment on Kyle Schwarber would have been so much

1266
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 4: different than any other star they would have gone after,

1267
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 4: And I know that's frustrating. It should be frustrating that

1268
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 4: if you're willing to make this kind of play for

1269
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 4: this one player, then then why wouldn't you make a

1270
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 4: even if it's not similar, something close to for a

1271
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 4: different player that can help this team get over the hump.

1272
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:43,600
Speaker 4: And I think it's important to remember last year that

1273
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 4: the red thread and a needle just to sneak in

1274
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 4: with the number of wins the way it worked out

1275
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 4: the meltdown from the Mets, and now to expect this

1276
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 4: team to take the kind of jump they're going to

1277
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 4: have to take to comfortably get into the playoffs, or

1278
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 4: even just get into the playoffs, it's likely not going

1279
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 4: to be that low of a number like it was

1280
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 4: last year, So I understand the frustration. I think in

1281
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 4: the Schwarber case, it was just he brought this unique

1282
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 4: element of not only star player, but a return on

1283
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 4: investment that they wouldn't get with another star player in

1284
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 4: their eyes, and it's got to be frustrating to the

1285
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 4: fan base to see them go for it with that

1286
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 4: one player, but not go for it for any other player,

1287
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 4: even if they're a tear down from Kyle Schwarber. And

1288
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 4: I understand the frustration that comes with that.

1289
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:35,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, very very well, said Daneman. As always, thanks for

1290
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 2: your time. What do you have going on leading up

1291
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 2: to spring training?

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Speaker 12: Now?

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01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 3: Everything with Fox nineteen, Big.

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Speaker 4: Day Saturday, Bear caxon Houston.

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Speaker 3: Now we're talking very good.

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Speaker 4: Had not the kisten where it's believed pretty cold there too,

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01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:56,679
Speaker 4: pretty pretty cold, but Tony send the kids back to school, yeat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's Joe Daniman, Fox nineteen. Thanks Joe, Joe

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Speaker 2: Daniman clearly getting ready for the Royal Rumble on Saturday

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01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 2: as well. Maybe we need a Royal Rumble segment this

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01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 2: week with our guy Rick Uccino. I'm just spitballing. We

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Speaker 2: got to get to a riky ringside. Your talkback's next

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Speaker 2: the ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 8: Now here's your CHESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 3: It's that time for talkbacks.

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01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:29,639
Speaker 13: Press the microphone and record your message for Austin and Tone.

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01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 3: Please keep it clean and don't be mean at.

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01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 13: A sprinkle sprinkle drip drips.

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01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 7: It's that time for talkbacks.

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Speaker 13: It's our favorite parter sinc. Three sixty. So Austin, buddy,

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01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 13: play those talkbacks on your screen and please try not

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01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 13: to sabotage.

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Speaker 2: The crazy thing is Austin. It feels like a Thursday

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Speaker 2: or something already.

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Speaker 3: Why.

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01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's only Tuesday. It's the whole kids

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Speaker 2: being home.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. It feels like this week is already long.

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01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 3: I think it's because they didn't do anything for two

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Speaker 3: days under the weekend in preparation for the snow. That

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Speaker 3: could be it as well. Regardless of any of that,

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Speaker 3: here are your Tuesday edition of talkbacks on ESPN fifteen.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Greg Sharonville could not believe that Shador Sanders made

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01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 5: the Pro Bowl squad. Well, then again, I guess that

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01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 5: last winning drive against our Bengals defense, I've locked it up.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it did. Could be. It's all marketing. I think

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01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 3: that's my thing. Get people to watch the Pro Bowl games.

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01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 3: Have the Shador clan the Chador stands. Tune in to

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Speaker 3: see him and Lord help us if he wins the

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Speaker 3: passing competition.

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Speaker 13: Run DC with a talk bag, Limerick. There once was

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01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 13: a team called the Bengals their fight song we use

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01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 13: for our jingles. We beat on Mike Brown, called Duke Tobin.

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01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 13: Their draft choices gives us all shingles. There once was

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01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 13: a team called the Reds. Talkbacks of their front office

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01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 13: dreads complaints about the lineup and the free agents they

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01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 13: sign up. Leaves us all scratching our heads. Have a

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Speaker 13: wonderful day everyone, All.

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Speaker 3: Right, why said Limerick?

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Speaker 12: Let me see if I can get through this talk

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01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 12: back without tearing up. Thirty four years ago today, the

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01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:28,759
Speaker 12: Bengals were thirty four seconds away from winning the Super Bowl.

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01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 12: Joe Montana ripped our hearts out. My dad and I

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01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 12: were season ticket holders for a long time, and I

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01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 12: was at a different Super Bowl party. But when I

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01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 12: came home, he met me on the porch and we

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01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:42,679
Speaker 12: hugged and we cried.

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01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 3: Right there. Man, I miss you dad. Wow, thank you

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01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 3: for sharing the memory. You're a little bit off. That

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01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:56,720
Speaker 3: was January twenty second, nineteen eighty nine. Let me tell

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Speaker 3: you what.

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01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 2: But it's hard right now to keep dates straight, as

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01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:05,799
Speaker 2: I said earlier, But thank you, Jim.

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01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 3: Do you know who sung the national anthem at Super

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01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 3: Bowl twenty three? I don't take a guess Prince. No

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01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 3: Billy Joel, oh Man, Billy Joel. I love Billy Joel.

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Speaker 14: It's the Lord. I hope everybody survived the White Death Sunday.

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Speaker 14: Is anybody else try to shoveling snow? I sure am.

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01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 14: I shove what's so Sunday three or four times, and

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Speaker 14: then again I shovel snow yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Okay, thank you?

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Speaker 2: You know I just got a Yeah, and I don't

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01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 2: know how I'm supposed to take this. I've been working

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01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 2: hard on the driveway. Yeah, Nick cleaned up, and I

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01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 2: told you today my back is locked up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're struggling. I got a text.

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01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 2: My aunts stopped over and they took the kids to

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Speaker 2: get some lunch, which is a godsend right now in

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Speaker 2: our household. And Mayor text me and she just said,

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Speaker 2: by the way, finished shoveling our driveway off. Won't be

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Speaker 2: able to move tomorrow. Was that a shot, like you

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Speaker 2: should have got this done already?

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Speaker 3: No? I don't think so. Okay, I think that's Hey,

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01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 3: I'm being a good teammate, all right.

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Speaker 2: I'm just making sure she probably knows your back's hurt. Yeah, so,

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Speaker 2: I mean it's her birthday tomorrow. I didn't want to

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Speaker 2: want her to you know.

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01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 3: Now I she did let you know, yeah, which means.

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Speaker 2: That makes me a little If I would have come

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Speaker 2: home and the drivewayd have been done, I'd have been like, oh,

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01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 2: it's done. But she had to let me know. That

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Speaker 2: makes me a little nervous.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Happy Tuesday, gents.

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Speaker 15: Boy, how desperate are we when we're putting doors standers

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Speaker 15: and the prole ball?

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Speaker 3: It's just wow.

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Speaker 4: When there's nobody else out there, that's what you gotta do.

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01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 3: And yeah, hey, I'm surprised.

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01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:52,720
Speaker 4: Why aren't the Browns reaching out?

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01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 3: So your doors daddy there?

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01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 6: I mean, come coas to Brown You'll have a Pro

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01:16:57,000 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 6: Bowl quarterback there waiting for him and his son for

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01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:00,799
Speaker 6: that circus.

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01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 4: What about you guys today?

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01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 2: Man that you want to talk about cinema prime in Cleveland?

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01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 3: Yes? Please? No, thank you? Yes?

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01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 16: Please ask Lee rolling down here in Foulmouth, do better

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01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:18,480
Speaker 16: all best enter day court Traine is too long, Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 7: What the you do? And do better?

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01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 3: Cleveland?

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Speaker 16: They're lying at the fill out your rest say on

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01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 16: why they want to coach Pro Bowl quarterbacks?

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01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:30,719
Speaker 3: A door better?

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01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:33,559
Speaker 16: Oh it's Sean Payton.

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01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 3: I guess you should have had.

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Speaker 16: Kevin James on the sidelines making decisions for you.

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Speaker 3: Oh better, man, I like that, do better. Thank you,

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01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:45,040
Speaker 3: Lee Roy from Foma.

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Speaker 9: Good afternoon, gentlemen.

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Speaker 15: It seems to me the Patriots are in the same

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01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 15: position the Bengals were at twenty one drength. The schedule

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01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 15: favored US, drafted a kicker that won quite a few

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01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 15: games for US that year, put us in a position

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01:17:57,479 --> 01:17:59,599
Speaker 15: to get to the Super Bowls. Weak those wins out

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01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:01,599
Speaker 15: that we need with Sony. The other draft picks were

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Speaker 15: picked up. So I mean, and then I'm thinking the

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01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 15: Bengals are going to be in a soner position next season.

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01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 15: Strength to schedules, sit favors, all, we need a couple

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01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 15: of draft picks and free agents again, we'd be right

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01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 15: back there.

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01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 3: Okay, I agree.

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Speaker 17: Okay, I just recently read an online article quoting Duke

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01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 17: Tobin about the emerging talents on the defensive side of

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01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 17: the ball. Therefore, I'm going to change my name from

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01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 17: the artist formerly known as near Production.

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Speaker 3: To emerging talents. There you go. Did quick Google search

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01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 3: on the Bengals emerging talents. They were all offensive players.

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01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:47,600
Speaker 3: I think there's two emerging talents on defense. Emerging emerging

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01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 3: who you got Miles Murphy and d J. Turner. Okay,

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01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 3: they're emerging, aren't they. Sure? Hey, how you guys do

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01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 3: I just wore how you feel about these idiots driving

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01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:01,799
Speaker 3: around with a put a snow on top of their cars?

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01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:02,599
Speaker 13: Oh?

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01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 3: Drive me nuts? Yeah? Now, yeah, I don't like it either.

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01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 2: I need clarification on this because I've been guilty of

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01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 2: that before and Mayer was like, hey, that's illegal. You

1437
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 2: could get a ticket for that. Oh is that a thing?

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01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 2: I did not know that now I try to clean off.

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01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 3: The top of the car. Wouldn't surprise me. But yeah,

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01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:23,599
Speaker 3: it is annoying, Yeah, and sometimes dangerous. Yes.

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01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 18: Oh, it's the most exciting time of the year. We

1442
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:28,800
Speaker 18: get to talk NFL Draft again for the next two

1443
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 18: months because we're not in the playoffs or Super Bowl.

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01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,720
Speaker 18: Think about Kuiper's got Caleb downs one tenth overall to

1445
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 18: the Bengals. I think we all can assume.

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01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 14: That if he's still there.

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01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:42,720
Speaker 18: But man, you expressed the Bengals lack of offensive explosion,

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01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:45,800
Speaker 18: So what if the Bengals and you can't put it

1449
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 18: past him pulled to James Rapine and took McKay limmon

1450
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 18: at ten overall?

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01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:53,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you may remember I talked about Carnell

1452
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 3: Tate two the titles earlier this season. I don't hate

1453
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 3: that now. I don't love it, but I don't hate it.

1454
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 3: We could be talking Austin.

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01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 10: It's Tuesday of Snowmageddon, and I've got some bench stock cut.

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01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 3: For you guys.

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01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 10: It's things to do as a teenager on a snow day.

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01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 10: We have fust playing Modern Warfare two on Xbox three

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01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 10: sixties start, we have sledding, and then finally we have

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01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 10: sleeping in.

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01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:29,680
Speaker 3: Happy good day, gentlemen.

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01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 2: I was always that snow day where I could sleep in.

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01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:35,559
Speaker 2: I was always for that. Sledding would be number two,

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01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:37,640
Speaker 2: and then I'd cut. I'd cut Call of Duty. No,

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01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:40,599
Speaker 2: you're starting Modern Warfare two. I'd play that right now,

1466
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 2: mostly because I was just so.

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01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 3: Bad at it. Yeah, you know it didn't surprise me

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01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 3: like I enjoyed it, but I was just bad bench

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01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 3: sleeping in and you cut sledding.

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Speaker 9: I need you to be the director of nil for

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01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 9: balling and easy three on three.

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Speaker 3: We need some talent.

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01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 9: Find me the best high schooler, the do you see player.

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01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:03,440
Speaker 3: Give me somebody, Dan, and I know you know somebody

1475
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 3: Wow is Joe listening. Had Joe Daniman created an infusion

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01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 3: of cash? Is Joe Lee and Ilon for balling eight

1477
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 3: easies three on three? That would be a waste of money.

1478
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 3: What about Joe who did admit that his glory days

1479
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:21,679
Speaker 3: are behind him? But could he be potentially the fourth

1480
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 3: man I'm in off the bench? Be a shooter? It's

1481
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:26,599
Speaker 3: just a waste of money. Could he be a three

1482
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 3: and D guy? I don't know.

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01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:31,240
Speaker 19: Nope, I don't miss the snow, but yeah, I missed

1484
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:33,720
Speaker 19: my city and skyline Chili rappen in the city out

1485
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 19: in sunny warm Zona.

1486
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 3: What up, Tony?

1487
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:36,599
Speaker 4: What up? Body?

1488
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 7: Man?

1489
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 19: Watching the Fox nineteen app has got me shivering? Man

1490
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:42,679
Speaker 19: was looking at all that snow back there. I'm having

1491
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:47,639
Speaker 19: straight flashbacks. Watch the Arizona's team last night. I'm just jealous, y'all.

1492
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 19: They team looks so good. They can shoot the ball.

1493
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 19: I mean, they play with authority. They played defense, something

1494
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:54,719
Speaker 19: that the Bearcats are missing.

1495
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:59,560
Speaker 3: All right, Hey, y'all get it.

1496
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 20: Really enjoyed the Joe Danoman interview as usual, you know,

1497
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:07,640
Speaker 20: and I do tend to agree with him. You know,

1498
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 20: you can go and get a wide receiver for that

1499
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 20: third receiver in the third or fourth round. You know,

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01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 20: I would just kind of stick with a big school,

1501
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 20: a big program that's established, that's you know, got these

1502
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 20: guys ready, like in Alabama or something. Take a wide

1503
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:24,439
Speaker 20: receiver in the third round.

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01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 3: What could go wrong? You know, that's a win guaranteed.

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01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 7: Dunk.

1506
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 3: I got a guy for you that I'm already falling

1507
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 3: in love with, little boy, wide receiver, lit boy, second

1508
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 3: or third round, little boy. How about a shifty slot

1509
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 3: guy and a return specialist, A little guy in the middle.

1510
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 3: Zachariah Branch, wide receiver from Georgia five to ten A

1511
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 3: buck eighty this year in college football, is tenth in

1512
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 3: the country with eighty one receptions. He had eight hundred

1513
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 3: and eleven yards six touchdowns. I mean he was a

1514
01:22:57,000 --> 01:23:00,160
Speaker 3: great returner, had a punk return touchdown. He started off

1515
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 3: at USC at a kickoff return touchdown at USC as well.

1516
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, what about Zachariah Branch. You're digging

1517
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 3: deep into Zachariah Branch On January twenty seventh. This is

1518
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 3: gonna be a long offseason. I'm just saying, I want

1519
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 3: to shifty slot guy. I gotta do my research. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yea, yeah.

1520
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 3: I assume we're gonna have a draft show. Lord only

1521
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 3: knows if we actually will.

1522
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 21: But Zachariah Mark from the Groove, I got a stark

1523
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:34,879
Speaker 21: bench cut on sports announcers. You can't stay him, Tom Brady,

1524
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 21: Tony Romo, Chris Collinsworth.

1525
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:42,679
Speaker 3: Oh, I love colins Worth. I think Brady's great as well.

1526
01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 3: I'll cut Romo. Yeah, I would cut Romo. I like

1527
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:48,720
Speaker 3: the other two. I think Brady is rapidly improving, so

1528
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 3: I guess I would. I would bench him and I'd

1529
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 3: start Chris because I think Chris is one of the

1530
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 3: best in the game. I would say something about Chris

1531
01:23:57,120 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 3: Collinsworth because a lot of people Bengals fans don't up

1532
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 3: on that dude, and they always say that he's he's

1533
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 3: he hates the Bengals. That's something I hear a lot.

1534
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 3: You have to understand. For years and years, when Chris

1535
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 3: Collinsworth was doing a Bengals game, they were getting destroyed

1536
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 3: because they were terrible on Sunday Night football for a

1537
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 3: long time in the Marvin Lewis era. They've been pretty

1538
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 3: good since Zach has gotten here, but for a long time,

1539
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 3: every game Chris Collinsworth did of the Bengals. They were

1540
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,599
Speaker 3: getting smoked, so of course he was critical of them,

1541
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 3: and if he wasn't, people would call him a homer.

1542
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 3: It just people don't like Collinsworth and it drives me

1543
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 3: nuts because he is really, really good at what he does.

1544
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 3: He is right anyway.

1545
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:50,960
Speaker 9: A quick question, is anybody else out there sick tired

1546
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 9: of shoveling?

1547
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:57,760
Speaker 3: Yes? I am, yes, I.

1548
01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:02,559
Speaker 9: Mean show but one day you shovel, two days you shovel,

1549
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 9: three day I've been shoveling. Has anybody else been shoveling?

1550
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:08,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like it's been NonStop.

1551
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 16: Thank you, Mike Independence once comment on the snow on

1552
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 16: top of the cars. I had my windshields shattered from

1553
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 16: a large was of ice coming off someone's car in

1554
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 16: front of me stuck in traffic could knock out of

1555
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 16: the way and then shattered my windshields. So that is

1556
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 16: the thing, and it's it's pretty bad as far as

1557
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 16: the roads go.

1558
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 3: Where the Kentucky has got way clear roads since he

1559
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 3: does right now, it's I heard about that in the

1560
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 3: words of Leroy do better. I heard about that. I mean,

1561
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:40,760
Speaker 3: you want to get political, Leroy, you want to get political?

1562
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 9: This is William James, Robert Boomed. I've been thinking about

1563
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:50,879
Speaker 9: this upcoming draft, and I think it who the Bangles

1564
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:57,680
Speaker 9: aught to probably go with. Is that fell out a

1565
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 9: universe Cincinnati Clifton dunk take Corleone? I mean, I think

1566
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 9: he fits their first.

1567
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 3: Round profile perfectly.

1568
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:08,759
Speaker 9: He has a glamour of potential.

1569
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 3: And that's they They should be able to get Corleone

1570
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 3: in the sixth Yeah. I don't know what's going on

1571
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 3: with with the Godfather. I saw he was in a

1572
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 3: boot again.

1573
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 2: The reps in which he participates in he's dominant. He's

1574
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 2: just not participating in enough of them. Yeah, worth taking

1575
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:30,600
Speaker 2: a flyer on in the sixth round, not kidding.

1576
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 3: That was it? Do you think he'll go in the

1577
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:37,760
Speaker 3: sixth I don't know. We've overvalued Bearcat players a lot.

1578
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 3: Who was that guard last year? Everybody loved Luke Candra.

1579
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 3: Yeah what he do? He hasn't done anything exactly. Some

1580
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 3: could say they were undervalue though, how so we'll take

1581
01:26:48,120 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 3: a break. What you thinking about that from there? Do

1582
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 3: you answer that question?

1583
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 2: On ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, Luke Candor wasn't even.

1584
01:26:56,120 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 8: Drafted, Wisecinnati and iHeartRadio station. Garan teed human ESPN fifteen thirty.

1585
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 3: I heard radio from.

1586
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 13: The ex Tony Pike.

1587
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 1: Since he three sixty continues now on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 2: Welcome back since he three to sixty nearing the end

1589
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 2: of our number two on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

1590
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 2: A couple of things here, Austin. I read this article

1591
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:41,880
Speaker 2: as well, and it's I don't think it's alarming for

1592
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 2: every school across the country, but I think you're going

1593
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 2: to see more and more schools like this. There is

1594
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 2: a an article out about the deficit in which Rutgers

1595
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 2: is facing. Have you seen this article floating around it all? No,

1596
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 2: Rutgers athletics deficit has now hit seventy eight million dollars.

1597
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 2: Since they've joined the Big Ten, they have lost five

1598
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 2: hundred and sixteen million dollars. It highlights in an article

1599
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 2: in New Jersey dot com the ways in which they

1600
01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 2: have fallen behind in many different ways. The expenditures forty

1601
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 2: six million in coaching salaries, thirty one and support staff

1602
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 2: and administrators, twenty three million in scholarship aid, fourteen million

1603
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 2: in facilities debt, thirteen million in team travel, nine million

1604
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:36,200
Speaker 2: in student athlete meals. The issue is when schools are

1605
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:38,800
Speaker 2: going all in and trying to make a push. When

1606
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 2: the results don't add up, you lose revenue, You lose

1607
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:48,479
Speaker 2: the ways in which a university can make money. That

1608
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 2: to me is I think a worrisome peace Austin when

1609
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:55,400
Speaker 2: you talk about a school like UC, I don't know

1610
01:28:55,520 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 2: UC's financials, but I would imagine that they've They've left

1611
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:02,879
Speaker 2: in a large amount of money in the indoor practice facility,

1612
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:07,200
Speaker 2: They've raised money from the nil world. If you don't

1613
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 2: see the results, you're going to start losing the attendance.

1614
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 2: And when you lose the attendance, you start to lose

1615
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 2: some of that revenue. I know Rutgers is in a

1616
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:20,560
Speaker 2: different category, and I don't know where they're spot in

1617
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:23,280
Speaker 2: the Big ten will ever be. Do you see this

1618
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 2: potentially becoming an issue for other schools around the country

1619
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:26,720
Speaker 2: if it's not.

1620
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 3: Already I was going to say, I feel like it

1621
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 3: already is for some schools. I don't think that we're

1622
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 3: used to seeing it from a school like Rutgers being

1623
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:36,720
Speaker 3: in the Big ten, But I don't know really what

1624
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:41,439
Speaker 3: they're good at. Like ever, that's the yeah, they don't

1625
01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:43,720
Speaker 3: really they are good, it's it's not really in a

1626
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 3: revenue generating sport. So I don't know how you get

1627
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 3: out of something like that. Right, Clearly they make plenty

1628
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 3: of money off the Big ten TV deal, but that

1629
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:58,760
Speaker 3: that's not enough if it continues to get worse. So

1630
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 3: I don't know unless you start eliminating sports, and I

1631
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:06,000
Speaker 3: don't know. That's a slippery slope there. Yep. There's also

1632
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 3: this in.

1633
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 2: The finish of our number two, and I know you

1634
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 2: highlighted it on social We talked about a pre show

1635
01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 2: three years ago today the Curse of Aftab happened in Cincinnati.

1636
01:30:21,080 --> 01:30:23,639
Speaker 2: Oh man, have we been the same since?

1637
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:25,640
Speaker 3: Don't even get me started. And if not?

1638
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 2: At this point, what can Aftab do, if anything? Can

1639
01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 2: you retract the statement? No, I don't know that you

1640
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 2: can do this. Is there anything to be done that

1641
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 2: can reverse what has transpired and the domino effect that

1642
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:45,680
Speaker 2: has happened since that claim by Aftab pure ball was made.

1643
01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:48,600
Speaker 3: I think if he were to make a public apology

1644
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:52,719
Speaker 3: to Bengals fans, to the Cincinnati Bengals, to Patrick Mahomes,

1645
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:55,360
Speaker 3: and to the Kansas City chiefs now. I remember Travis

1646
01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:57,880
Speaker 3: Kelcey clowned him on the podium, and he deserved every

1647
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:02,439
Speaker 3: bit of it. If you remember that. The proclamation from

1648
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:08,680
Speaker 3: asktab pure Vall was the following The Cincinnati Bengals are

1649
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 3: headed to Burrowheads Stadium for their second consecutive championship game,

1650
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:15,240
Speaker 3: and the Bengals scored more points than the Chiefs last year,

1651
01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:17,519
Speaker 3: resorting in a Bengals victory in a Chief's loss, and

1652
01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:20,400
Speaker 3: Joseph Lee Burrow, who is three and zero against Mahomes,

1653
01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 3: has been asked by officials to take a paternity test

1654
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 3: confirming whether or not he's his father. And all season long,

1655
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:29,560
Speaker 3: Cincinnati has been on a path of destiny, fighting it

1656
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:31,479
Speaker 3: out to overcome anyone who stands between them and a

1657
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:33,920
Speaker 3: Super Bowl win. And Kansas City is named after its

1658
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 3: neighboring state, which is you know, just kind of weird.

1659
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:40,880
Speaker 3: Yep uh. Therefore, Aft tab pure Vall, the mayor of

1660
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:44,800
Speaker 3: Cincinnati du BAYI here priably proclaim they got to play

1661
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:46,640
Speaker 3: us day in Cincinnati.

1662
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:49,800
Speaker 2: You know, we talked about this earlier in the week.

1663
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:53,479
Speaker 2: That was one of those things. Austin or I remember

1664
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:54,880
Speaker 2: where I was when that happened.

1665
01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:56,320
Speaker 3: I was so mad.

1666
01:31:56,680 --> 01:31:57,160
Speaker 7: I was.

1667
01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:01,000
Speaker 2: Mayor and I we did a birthday. We went to

1668
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:06,200
Speaker 2: Houston to watch UC play Houston three years ago and

1669
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:09,080
Speaker 2: we were in the lobby of the hotel and that

1670
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:13,120
Speaker 2: came out and I remember that specific moment thinking what

1671
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:18,080
Speaker 2: did he just do? Yep, And to this day, you

1672
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:19,840
Speaker 2: could say it it still haunts this team.

1673
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:22,200
Speaker 3: It is just infuriated me.

1674
01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:25,840
Speaker 2: I just I can't imagine. I can't believe that actually happened.

1675
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:28,719
Speaker 2: Still to this day. Yeah, unbelievable stuff.

1676
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:32,160
Speaker 3: I mean, that ended up with five point nine million

1677
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:36,040
Speaker 3: views on his Twitter account. Yeah, as I mentioned Travis

1678
01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:38,439
Speaker 3: Kelcey on the podium, my biggest issue with it is

1679
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:41,880
Speaker 3: number one, Like, yeah, I get everybody's excited, and they

1680
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:44,559
Speaker 3: should be excited about the Bengals, but they had had

1681
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:50,120
Speaker 3: one year of success in the past thirty Yeah, and

1682
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:53,640
Speaker 3: you act like you own the Kansas City Chiefs, who

1683
01:32:53,680 --> 01:32:56,839
Speaker 3: had been to multiple Super Bowls and had the MVP

1684
01:32:57,080 --> 01:33:00,560
Speaker 3: at all these just it reaked of arrogance. It was

1685
01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:04,960
Speaker 3: so tone deaf, it was so just it's oh, yep,

1686
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:07,680
Speaker 3: it was just so out of line. And what I

1687
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:10,439
Speaker 3: hoped and wished at the time was that the Bengals

1688
01:33:10,439 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 3: would have come out and you know, taken a stance

1689
01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:17,640
Speaker 3: against this and condemned that because it's so childish for

1690
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:20,680
Speaker 3: a grown man to do that, and it's you can

1691
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:23,240
Speaker 3: go deeper into the waters of this is a politician

1692
01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:26,080
Speaker 3: trying to play up to sports fans to try to

1693
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:28,919
Speaker 3: get their approval. But I think it had the opposite

1694
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:31,519
Speaker 3: effect where people are like, dude, what are you doing? Yeah,

1695
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 3: that is so embarrassing for the city of Cincinnati.

1696
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:34,680
Speaker 7: Yep.

1697
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 3: Just fill the damn potholes, get the damn snow removed

1698
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:41,439
Speaker 3: and keep it moving. Get these kids back and get

1699
01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:44,040
Speaker 3: the damned kids back in school, and have people stop

1700
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 3: killing each other. That's it simple. You don't need to

1701
01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:51,439
Speaker 3: release proclamations about the Bengals, and that goes for every

1702
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:54,439
Speaker 3: mare in America. Not just have tad to every government

1703
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:58,200
Speaker 3: official you wanted to talk politics, Tony, Gosh, we did it.

1704
01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:02,120
Speaker 3: We will not talk. Still off about this hour years later.

1705
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:05,280
Speaker 3: I believe it's the curse of the tab Man. The

1706
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 3: tab has cursed us, and until he apologizes, we may

1707
01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:09,679
Speaker 3: never have success again.

1708
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 7: There.

1709
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:12,080
Speaker 3: It is maybe until he's out of office.

1710
01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:14,439
Speaker 2: As political as you'll ever hear on since he three

1711
01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:16,120
Speaker 2: to sixty our three is next.

1712
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:20,320
Speaker 3: Worst legislation in the history of American government. Here's what

1713
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:23,200
Speaker 3: we got, the Curse of the tab. We've got buy sell,

1714
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 3: we've got the top one hundred MLB proppologize AFT tab,

1715
01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:29,880
Speaker 3: We've got South Stewart Audio, and we've been your phone calls.

1716
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:32,840
Speaker 2: Five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifteen thirty. Next on

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty, I wish thirty.

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Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike since E three sixty about Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: From Cincinnati, this is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Here we go our number three, ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati

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01:34:57,120 --> 01:35:00,320
Speaker 2: Sports Station. Thanks for joining along, Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 3: Hour three.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk some baseball, We've got some buyer sell.

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01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:07,000
Speaker 2: Mowager's gonna join us, and we'll take your phone calls

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 3: Five seven, fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 7: What was that?

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Speaker 3: You can You can go through like anything that's happened

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01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:17,160
Speaker 3: in the history of Cincinnati sports, And I don't think

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01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:21,600
Speaker 3: anything infuriates me more than the ad thing. Like it

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01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:25,559
Speaker 3: could be you know, Vontes perfect and pac Van Jones

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01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:29,320
Speaker 3: and the Joey Porter thing and the fumble and the

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01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:31,920
Speaker 3: U See Nevada thing. It could be the Reds and

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01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:34,479
Speaker 3: selling tickets. It could be Phil Castellini and where you're

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01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:39,160
Speaker 3: gonna go. It could be any number of things that

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01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:41,960
Speaker 3: have happened on and off the field in the history

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01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:46,600
Speaker 3: of Cincinnati sports, and nothing, nothing infuriates me. Like you

1738
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:48,800
Speaker 3: know how when you get mad, you could feel your

1739
01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:51,600
Speaker 3: body temperature warming up. That's what happened at the end

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01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 3: of last segment.

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01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:54,880
Speaker 2: Well, I could tell because normally, over the course of

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01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:56,599
Speaker 2: a break or maybe the top of an hour, I'll

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01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:59,080
Speaker 2: do a lap, I'll stop in there and say something

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01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:00,920
Speaker 2: to you, and you you kind of just wave me off.

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01:36:01,160 --> 01:36:03,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, not now infuriated?

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01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you, I mean that is something that sticks with you.

1747
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:10,680
Speaker 2: And here on the three year anniversary, maybe you'll advise to.

1748
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:11,320
Speaker 3: Me to bring it up.

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01:36:11,439 --> 01:36:11,600
Speaker 22: You know.

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01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:17,280
Speaker 3: The thing is the window is small. Oh, it's not

1751
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 3: easy to win the Super Bowl, man, and.

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01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:21,760
Speaker 10: To to.

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01:36:23,439 --> 01:36:25,639
Speaker 3: Would you hit Aftab with a pal or a bud

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01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:27,920
Speaker 3: I would? It would be worse than I would be

1755
01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:31,920
Speaker 3: disrespectful to him. I don't respect him. That's that's the problem.

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01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:33,680
Speaker 3: I don't know that I could. You know, I had

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01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:35,600
Speaker 3: a chance to meet him once after this and I

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01:36:35,680 --> 01:36:38,680
Speaker 3: had declined. Yeah, I had no interest. Yeah, because I

1759
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:41,160
Speaker 3: don't think I could keep my mouth shut that's how

1760
01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:48,800
Speaker 3: much this bothers me. But yeah, man, just it's like

1761
01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:51,160
Speaker 3: Dan Campbell said, I think about it all the time.

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01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:53,320
Speaker 3: It keeps me up at night. When the Lions lost

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01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:55,479
Speaker 3: in the NFC Championship game to the forty nine Ers

1764
01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:57,080
Speaker 3: two years ago, and he said, this may have been

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01:36:57,120 --> 01:37:00,719
Speaker 3: our only chance. You know what happened less than twelve months.

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01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:04,519
Speaker 3: It was eight to ten months after aftab said this

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01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:08,000
Speaker 3: dumb ass proclamation. Joe Burrow had a freak wrist injury.

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Speaker 7: Yep.

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Speaker 3: They were cruising in twenty twenty three too, they were

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01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:13,320
Speaker 3: starting to hit their stride. Oh, and you have an

1771
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:17,080
Speaker 3: injury this open never happened before to a quarterback. They

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01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:21,120
Speaker 3: had nothing to go off of. And then he comes

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01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 3: back remarkable story, puts together the best season a quarterback

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01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:28,280
Speaker 3: has ever had in the history of this franchise, and

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01:37:28,479 --> 01:37:32,479
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase goes cuckoo for cocoa puffs with the triple

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01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:36,200
Speaker 3: crown and they missed the playoffs yep. And then what

1777
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:39,439
Speaker 3: happens this year of the turf code turf toe never

1778
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 3: before seen by God yep, to Joe Burrow, and the

1779
01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:44,679
Speaker 3: defense sucks even worse.

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Speaker 2: And it all ties back to one thing. The Tab,

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01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:50,360
Speaker 2: the Curse of the Tab. Gosh, they might do a

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01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:51,880
Speaker 2: thirty for thirty about this one day.

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Speaker 3: Well, I hope they interview me and whoever's producing it

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01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:58,120
Speaker 3: what I want to sit down, give me a little

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01:37:58,240 --> 01:38:02,360
Speaker 3: the lave mic and let's go oh yeah for content. Say,

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01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:04,599
Speaker 3: I hope they reach out to you as well. Now

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01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:08,759
Speaker 3: I have no problem flipping the switch and not cursing

1788
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:11,160
Speaker 3: on the radio, but this is the only thing where

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01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:13,479
Speaker 3: I have to like really wash my words because I

1790
01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:18,200
Speaker 3: just yeah, the Curse of Aftab. I can't wait for

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01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:21,840
Speaker 3: it to come out. Maybe that could be my little

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01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:23,160
Speaker 3: passion project on the side.

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01:38:23,200 --> 01:38:23,600
Speaker 7: I get it.

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01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:24,800
Speaker 3: Look, I wanted to.

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01:38:25,479 --> 01:38:27,559
Speaker 2: I wanted to spend a few minutes here talking about

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01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:29,519
Speaker 2: the top one hundred prospects and to get to some

1797
01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:30,400
Speaker 2: South Stewart.

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01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:35,360
Speaker 3: Audiomost as guilty as Aftab himself is. Whatever foolish aid

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Speaker 3: allowed him to do that and press posts. See that's

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Speaker 3: what I pushed back on at times too.

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Speaker 10: Who are the.

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01:38:41,160 --> 01:38:43,439
Speaker 3: People around him that allowed that to happen.

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01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:45,720
Speaker 2: Someone had to have had the opportunity to say, you

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01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:48,360
Speaker 2: know what, I don't think this one's a good idea,

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01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:51,400
Speaker 2: and I think that's a behind the scenes that we

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01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:53,439
Speaker 2: need as well, because I want to know who failed

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01:38:54,080 --> 01:38:57,479
Speaker 2: in their due diligence in that moment.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about act like you've been there before. We

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01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:04,680
Speaker 3: hadn't in AFTAB didn't act like it. No, that's a shame. No,

1810
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:08,000
Speaker 3: we we still are left trying to pick up key pieces.

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01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:09,960
Speaker 2: And I can't help but wonder if it's if it's

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01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:14,559
Speaker 2: leaked into all Cincinnati sports, Reds, Begles, Bearcats, the Muskies.

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01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:17,960
Speaker 2: I think there is some some digging we need to

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Speaker 2: do here to see just how deep this goes.

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Speaker 3: When does AFT tabs term end? I couldn't tell you

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Speaker 3: anybody know that that's too political for me. See if

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Speaker 3: Cunningham knows, see if Willie can know. This is just

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Speaker 3: something that bubbles underneath the surface. I get it all

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Speaker 3: the time. I get it.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you a moment. We're going to get

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Speaker 2: into some south Steward here in a second. I can't

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Speaker 2: take a call to.

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Speaker 3: I can't promise you know that I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: have an outburst when I think of more stuff to say.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to take a call or to and give

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Speaker 2: you a moment, and then we'll get back and get

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Speaker 2: to where we need to go.

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Speaker 3: What's up, Mike?

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Speaker 7: Oh, I'm sorry. He caught me off guard. I was

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Speaker 7: taken a swallow with some water.

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Speaker 3: Bad all good?

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Speaker 7: Oh gosh, wow, Austin, Uh, I think you need a

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01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:07,000
Speaker 7: meds call down.

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01:40:08,520 --> 01:40:10,600
Speaker 3: If aft tab is involved, he might need something. The

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01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:13,320
Speaker 3: Bengals are twenty seven and twelve and twenty one and

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01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:16,920
Speaker 3: twenty two. After that proclamation, they're twenty four and twenty eight,

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Speaker 3: with two season ending injuries to Joe Brow season A three.

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Speaker 7: Yeah no, it's not doing a show called True Crimes.

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01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:29,120
Speaker 3: Just deep and it's dark like this is a deep dive,

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01:40:29,720 --> 01:40:30,880
Speaker 3: a dark deep dive.

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01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:32,240
Speaker 4: I can tell well.

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01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:35,519
Speaker 7: Therapy is a wonderful thing. I've been to him many times.

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01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:38,560
Speaker 3: Oh no, I go, I go, trust me, I go.

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01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:40,000
Speaker 3: This is with therapy.

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01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:42,559
Speaker 7: It's a good thing. People think it's you know, you're

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01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:42,880
Speaker 7: you know.

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Speaker 13: I don't need that.

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01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:45,400
Speaker 4: No, you probably do.

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01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:47,080
Speaker 7: Everybody probably does.

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01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:50,559
Speaker 3: We've just got correspondence from the seven hundred WLW news room.

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01:40:50,640 --> 01:40:54,920
Speaker 3: Four more years. This is hogwash. There you go.

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Speaker 13: Go.

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01:40:57,760 --> 01:40:58,559
Speaker 7: That's too much.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:03,240
Speaker 7: Nebraska is quite the story this year in college hoops,

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01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:06,040
Speaker 7: But Michigan's gonna whoop their little heine tonight when they

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Speaker 7: get up to ann Arbor.

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Speaker 2: Michigan is a completely different animal. I'm in agreement.

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Speaker 7: Michigan's tough. Now Nebraska. You know, Nebraska is like Kentucky.

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Speaker 7: It's always been our Indiana. It's always been known as

1861
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:21,880
Speaker 7: a football school. And I miss the days back in

1862
01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:23,800
Speaker 7: the day. I know you guys get board with this,

1863
01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:26,640
Speaker 7: but it comes to into my mind a lot like

1864
01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:27,640
Speaker 7: back in the day when it.

1865
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Speaker 4: Was the old Big Eight.

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Speaker 7: You know, when Nebraska ruled that week for a long time.

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01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:34,280
Speaker 7: They had a Hall of Fame coach named Tom Osborn.

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Speaker 7: It was awesome. And then Oklahoma had Bud Wilkinson. He

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Speaker 7: was there for thirty some years. He's in the Hall.

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Speaker 7: I just really missed the old Southwest Conference, the old

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01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:46,640
Speaker 7: Big Eight Conference. I missed that stuff. Not that the

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01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:50,559
Speaker 7: new stuff didn't cool, but timers sar. There's other guys

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01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:51,960
Speaker 7: out there that feel the same way.

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01:41:52,520 --> 01:41:52,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think Nebraska is the perfect story though, of how

1876
01:41:55,960 --> 01:42:00,680
Speaker 2: today's college athletics can can let themselves a positive way

1877
01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:04,000
Speaker 2: to schools being able to turn around and do stuff

1878
01:42:04,040 --> 01:42:06,160
Speaker 2: that that they hadn't been able to do before. If

1879
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:07,600
Speaker 2: you can get it done the right way, if you

1880
01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:09,960
Speaker 2: can identify the talent and you have the money to

1881
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:10,519
Speaker 2: spend to do it.

1882
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:13,680
Speaker 7: And I'm so for them. I hope they win the

1883
01:42:13,720 --> 01:42:17,640
Speaker 7: whole Damn Big ten fine with me, and I'm no

1884
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:21,439
Speaker 7: Michigan fan, that's for sure. I got a football question.

1885
01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 7: This is really why I cal when Mike with Seattle

1886
01:42:26,200 --> 01:42:30,160
Speaker 7: and New England. I haven't followed it close enough. Their

1887
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:32,640
Speaker 7: interior defensive linemen.

1888
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:35,200
Speaker 9: Or do they.

1889
01:42:35,200 --> 01:42:39,200
Speaker 7: Typically have four guys in other words, a rotation basis

1890
01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:42,080
Speaker 7: to keep them fresh. Is it impossible to just go

1891
01:42:42,240 --> 01:42:44,559
Speaker 7: with two guys and in the fourth quarter they're still

1892
01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:45,320
Speaker 7: play as well?

1893
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:48,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, So many talk about the top end talent, and

1894
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:52,720
Speaker 2: rightfully so, and I think New England and what they

1895
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:54,519
Speaker 2: did to go out and get Milton Williams as a

1896
01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:56,599
Speaker 2: prime example of that, because he's one of the best

1897
01:42:56,640 --> 01:43:00,000
Speaker 2: in the game. But if you want to be playing

1898
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:02,800
Speaker 2: at the end of the year, you have to find

1899
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:05,760
Speaker 2: a way to create depth because if not, teams are

1900
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:08,280
Speaker 2: going to exploit different ways on how to attack you

1901
01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:10,080
Speaker 2: and how to wear you down over the course of

1902
01:43:10,120 --> 01:43:13,240
Speaker 2: a game. So the depth and having guys able to

1903
01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:15,439
Speaker 2: rotate in is just as important in my opinion.

1904
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:20,519
Speaker 7: So in some case with the starters and the second

1905
01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:23,360
Speaker 7: string guys I hate the same second string. They may

1906
01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:25,519
Speaker 7: be fairly close in their abilities, right.

1907
01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:28,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And I think there was a for a time.

1908
01:43:29,040 --> 01:43:31,280
Speaker 2: I think that was a vision in Cincinnati with Trey

1909
01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:34,760
Speaker 2: Hendrickson and Joseph Osai and when Sam Hubbard was here

1910
01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:37,559
Speaker 2: and they drafted Miles Murphy and then they added Shamar Stewart.

1911
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Speaker 2: I think there had to be a moment where there

1912
01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:43,360
Speaker 2: was a vision of, man, we can rotate all of

1913
01:43:43,439 --> 01:43:47,479
Speaker 2: these guys in and put a lot of pressure on

1914
01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:50,560
Speaker 2: opposing offenses. And it just never really panned out in

1915
01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:51,000
Speaker 2: that way.

1916
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Speaker 7: Okay, thanks for clarifying it. And Austin, I know you're

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01:43:55,840 --> 01:43:58,200
Speaker 7: really good at this stuff, because right now we don't

1918
01:43:58,240 --> 01:44:01,000
Speaker 7: have Wi Fi in here and it's aggravating the crap

1919
01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:04,080
Speaker 7: out of me. But can you do some if you

1920
01:44:04,160 --> 01:44:07,280
Speaker 7: have time, check out that Blake Miller right tackle from

1921
01:44:07,320 --> 01:44:09,360
Speaker 7: Clemson for me and tell me if he sounds like

1922
01:44:09,439 --> 01:44:11,719
Speaker 7: he's worth the craps and the Rams are talking about,

1923
01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:14,439
Speaker 7: or you know what your guy Jeremiah is talking about,

1924
01:44:14,439 --> 01:44:16,400
Speaker 7: they might take him. I'm just I don't know anything

1925
01:44:16,439 --> 01:44:19,280
Speaker 7: about the guy, and I'm just curious, and I'll leave

1926
01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 7: you with this not a sports question? How come do

1927
01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:24,519
Speaker 7: you like corn on the cop?

1928
01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:26,439
Speaker 10: Now?

1929
01:44:26,720 --> 01:44:27,080
Speaker 9: Oddly?

1930
01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:28,360
Speaker 7: I do?

1931
01:44:29,040 --> 01:44:29,280
Speaker 5: I do?

1932
01:44:30,640 --> 01:44:33,040
Speaker 7: I love it? I do.

1933
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:35,920
Speaker 2: I actually like Now I'm more of a fan of

1934
01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:37,760
Speaker 2: corn on the cob than corn off the.

1935
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Speaker 7: Cop Okay, so you don't like cream corn? Shall we

1936
01:44:41,880 --> 01:44:45,280
Speaker 7: say correct Austin cream corns?

1937
01:44:45,320 --> 01:44:45,559
Speaker 9: Okay?

1938
01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:46,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fine.

1939
01:44:47,240 --> 01:44:50,639
Speaker 7: Yeah, I like. How come corn you chew the hell

1940
01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:52,639
Speaker 7: out of it? How come that always comes out?

1941
01:44:52,840 --> 01:44:52,880
Speaker 8: And?

1942
01:44:54,160 --> 01:44:54,519
Speaker 7: All right?

1943
01:44:56,680 --> 01:45:00,400
Speaker 3: Thank you? Now do you do you do? You know

1944
01:45:01,240 --> 01:45:05,280
Speaker 3: what those corn on the cob holders are called? No,

1945
01:45:05,439 --> 01:45:06,559
Speaker 3: I don't know what they're called.

1946
01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:13,600
Speaker 2: Some call them corn picks, corn skewers, corn prongs, but

1947
01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:18,280
Speaker 2: also folks just call them Larry Larry. Yeah, and I

1948
01:45:18,360 --> 01:45:20,840
Speaker 2: don't know where that came from, but I've heard that

1949
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:27,120
Speaker 2: before as those feeling somebody's as Larry because they were

1950
01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:30,160
Speaker 2: they were patented by a man named Larry, so he

1951
01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:32,320
Speaker 2: just called him Larry. So he just called him Larry

1952
01:45:33,479 --> 01:45:38,280
Speaker 2: so or Big Larry to some Big Larry's cornscrews.

1953
01:45:38,439 --> 01:45:42,559
Speaker 3: Getting a little confused. So anyway, Blake Miller six foot

1954
01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:46,240
Speaker 3: six three and fifteen pounds went to Strongsville High School,

1955
01:45:46,280 --> 01:45:52,000
Speaker 3: Oh Strongsville, Ohisle, Well, the Reds might be interested. He's

1956
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:52,639
Speaker 3: a big fella.

1957
01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:58,240
Speaker 2: Okay, speaking of the Reds, Red's got a name here

1958
01:45:58,360 --> 01:46:02,080
Speaker 2: on the uh the the Major League Baseball Top one

1959
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:05,679
Speaker 2: hundred prospects for twenty twenty six. No kidding, Now, listen

1960
01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:09,920
Speaker 2: to this. Connor Griffin, shortstopped for the Pirates is number one. Okay,

1961
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:13,240
Speaker 2: I'm just looking at an NL central mode. Here is

1962
01:46:13,320 --> 01:46:17,679
Speaker 2: it Jesus made or Hayesus made. I'm gonna say it's Hayesus. Mayday,

1963
01:46:17,840 --> 01:46:20,439
Speaker 2: Hayesus made for the Brewers is number three. If you

1964
01:46:20,479 --> 01:46:22,840
Speaker 2: want to get political, we can't get into the Jesus talk.

1965
01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:23,519
Speaker 3: If you're interested.

1966
01:46:23,640 --> 01:46:24,080
Speaker 7: Jay J.

1967
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:28,120
Speaker 3: Weatherholdt a shortstop for the Cardinals. Big weekend for him

1968
01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:29,200
Speaker 3: when the Storms coming through.

1969
01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:32,240
Speaker 2: Number seven on the list. The Pirates dip in twice

1970
01:46:32,280 --> 01:46:35,080
Speaker 2: in the top twelve with Bubba Chandler. Okay, another pitcher

1971
01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:37,839
Speaker 2: they have Budda Chandler, yep, yep.

1972
01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:40,240
Speaker 3: Wouldn't And that the guy who played for center field

1973
01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:42,560
Speaker 3: for the Reds and who played college football. That was

1974
01:46:42,560 --> 01:46:44,160
Speaker 3: Bubba Thompson's Bubba Thompson.

1975
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:48,240
Speaker 2: Now, now, if of us, if you if you scroll

1976
01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:53,240
Speaker 2: down to number seventeen on the list, Sal Stewart top

1977
01:46:53,320 --> 01:46:58,240
Speaker 2: prospects going into twenty twenty six. A player that they

1978
01:46:58,400 --> 01:47:01,040
Speaker 2: remind now when they they do this article, they've got

1979
01:47:01,080 --> 01:47:04,080
Speaker 2: a player that Sal reminds them of a right handed

1980
01:47:04,160 --> 01:47:09,200
Speaker 2: Michael Bush. Okay, that do it for you. No, I'm

1981
01:47:09,200 --> 01:47:13,160
Speaker 2: gonna need a little more from Sal than that. That's

1982
01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:18,160
Speaker 2: a little worrisome to me. South Stewart is interesting to me.

1983
01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:23,280
Speaker 2: Alfredo dno is twenty ninth on the list, don't you know.

1984
01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:26,600
Speaker 2: I wanted to see if there's any else in the

1985
01:47:26,680 --> 01:47:30,280
Speaker 2: top one hundred before we dive into a little South Stewart.

1986
01:47:30,320 --> 01:47:33,599
Speaker 2: As I'm scrolling here, just prospects. Yeah, as I'm scrolling here,

1987
01:47:33,640 --> 01:47:36,120
Speaker 2: you really don't see many Cincinnati Reds on the list.

1988
01:47:37,120 --> 01:47:41,799
Speaker 2: But South Stewart Austin, to me, is such an interesting dynamic.

1989
01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:45,160
Speaker 2: Red Louder is number seventy two, by the way, because

1990
01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:47,280
Speaker 2: that's a guy we're not talking about it now. Yeah,

1991
01:47:47,439 --> 01:47:50,240
Speaker 2: this team for a couple of years, it was like, Man,

1992
01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:53,040
Speaker 2: if they ever go through a lull or they need

1993
01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:54,840
Speaker 2: to sell some tickets, what did the Reds do? They

1994
01:47:54,920 --> 01:48:00,519
Speaker 2: just dipped into the farm system. Cees noelbe Marte McLean,

1995
01:48:00,600 --> 01:48:02,920
Speaker 2: Spencer Steer, Elie de la Cruz. You bring these guys

1996
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:06,439
Speaker 2: up at different times and bang, it's exciting. And the

1997
01:48:06,520 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 2: last year they waited and we kept waiting. When is

1998
01:48:08,520 --> 01:48:10,599
Speaker 2: Southstewart going to get called up? When is Southstewart gonna

1999
01:48:10,640 --> 01:48:14,799
Speaker 2: get called up? What way would you describe south Stewart's

2000
01:48:14,800 --> 01:48:17,000
Speaker 2: impact of the twenty twenty five season Minimal?

2001
01:48:18,200 --> 01:48:18,720
Speaker 4: Uh? Yeah?

2002
01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:21,560
Speaker 5: What?

2003
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:25,920
Speaker 3: I think he brought some energy, Yeah, some youthful energy.

2004
01:48:27,200 --> 01:48:30,680
Speaker 3: I like the way he approached every day. He was

2005
01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:34,720
Speaker 3: kind of fearless, okay, and I think that attitude was

2006
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:37,880
Speaker 3: good for a clubhouse who maybe was tightening up a

2007
01:48:37,960 --> 01:48:40,800
Speaker 3: little bit down the stretch. Yeah, so maybe it was

2008
01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:43,160
Speaker 3: more of an impact off the field than on the field.

2009
01:48:43,200 --> 01:48:45,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, just the boost that maybe the locker room needed.

2010
01:48:45,520 --> 01:48:45,720
Speaker 7: Sure.

2011
01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:48,519
Speaker 3: Now I think we have some south Stewart audio? Is

2012
01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:50,639
Speaker 3: that correct? We do south Stewart.

2013
01:48:51,479 --> 01:48:55,360
Speaker 2: To me, he's one of the players that if they

2014
01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:58,680
Speaker 2: don't take a step forward, I don't know how this

2015
01:48:58,760 --> 01:49:01,840
Speaker 2: team competes. I think south Stewart can be identified as

2016
01:49:01,840 --> 01:49:04,760
Speaker 2: one of those brought him up late last year. Now

2017
01:49:04,880 --> 01:49:07,000
Speaker 2: he's got big plans in the fold this year. This

2018
01:49:07,120 --> 01:49:10,559
Speaker 2: team is desperate for offense. That's something south Stewart should

2019
01:49:10,560 --> 01:49:14,000
Speaker 2: be able to provide. The question is that it should

2020
01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:17,439
Speaker 2: be something if he's able to provide it, I think

2021
01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:19,639
Speaker 2: still remains to be seen. But we have some south

2022
01:49:19,680 --> 01:49:22,479
Speaker 2: Stewart audio talking about some weight that he's lost. Yeah,

2023
01:49:22,520 --> 01:49:24,400
Speaker 2: this was about a week or so ago.

2024
01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:27,760
Speaker 3: He was on MLB Tonight asking about you know, it

2025
01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:30,439
Speaker 3: was asked about his off season and where he's at,

2026
01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:33,120
Speaker 3: what the plan is for him. Here is south Stewart

2027
01:49:33,200 --> 01:49:35,920
Speaker 3: on MLB Network last week. What did the team tell

2028
01:49:35,960 --> 01:49:38,200
Speaker 3: you at the end of the season, kind of your

2029
01:49:38,240 --> 01:49:41,519
Speaker 3: exit interview on what position to kind of get ready

2030
01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:44,120
Speaker 3: for and what have you been doing to work out defensively.

2031
01:49:45,920 --> 01:49:47,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, so when the season kind of headed, obviously it

2032
01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:51,040
Speaker 4: was an abrupt ending in LA but after there was

2033
01:49:51,080 --> 01:49:51,439
Speaker 4: some time.

2034
01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:53,640
Speaker 19: I got on the phone with Tito, who spoke for

2035
01:49:53,680 --> 01:49:56,120
Speaker 19: about forty five minutes together, and he's just like.

2036
01:49:56,200 --> 01:49:57,600
Speaker 3: Look, this is what I expect out of you.

2037
01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:00,519
Speaker 9: You kind of want to meet a lean out, which

2038
01:50:00,680 --> 01:50:02,240
Speaker 9: I did going into the offseason.

2039
01:50:02,280 --> 01:50:03,759
Speaker 3: I'm done about twenty five pounds.

2040
01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:04,320
Speaker 4: Wow.

2041
01:50:04,560 --> 01:50:06,040
Speaker 3: And he just said he wanted to be ready for

2042
01:50:06,120 --> 01:50:09,120
Speaker 3: third and first. So I took those words to Harden.

2043
01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:12,000
Speaker 21: I mean Tito's a Hall of Fame manager, so I

2044
01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:14,080
Speaker 21: took what he said to hard and I got to work.

2045
01:50:14,200 --> 01:50:16,680
Speaker 22: So I'm excited that I'm ready for both third and

2046
01:50:16,880 --> 01:50:18,680
Speaker 22: first and wherever the team needs me.

2047
01:50:18,840 --> 01:50:20,439
Speaker 3: So I'm looking forward to it.

2048
01:50:22,320 --> 01:50:24,280
Speaker 2: So a little bit of behind the curtain here, I

2049
01:50:24,360 --> 01:50:27,240
Speaker 2: think one south Stewart down twenty five pounds would be

2050
01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:31,080
Speaker 2: a good thing. Not that I think it's egregious where

2051
01:50:31,120 --> 01:50:33,080
Speaker 2: he was at, but they need him to drop aay

2052
01:50:33,080 --> 01:50:35,360
Speaker 2: because the didn't want Hi home runs. Well, okay, just

2053
01:50:36,600 --> 01:50:39,400
Speaker 2: so we're clear, Yeah, I mean, can you imagine like

2054
01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:42,280
Speaker 2: Tito being like, hey, we need you to lose weight

2055
01:50:42,320 --> 01:50:44,400
Speaker 2: because we don't want you hitting very many home runs.

2056
01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:46,360
Speaker 2: We want you being fast on the base pass.

2057
01:50:47,439 --> 01:50:51,800
Speaker 3: I don't I don't understand the first and third base thing. Yeah,

2058
01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:55,719
Speaker 3: that's what I was gonna go next. Unless there's gonna

2059
01:50:55,720 --> 01:50:58,280
Speaker 3: be a lot of games. I can't imagine this is

2060
01:50:58,360 --> 01:51:00,719
Speaker 3: the case, But unless there's gonna be lot of games

2061
01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:05,400
Speaker 3: where key Brian Hayes does not start and comes late

2062
01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:08,040
Speaker 3: in the fifth or sixth as a defensive replacement. Sure,

2063
01:51:08,800 --> 01:51:11,040
Speaker 3: I don't know that we've talked about that much that much,

2064
01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:13,400
Speaker 3: but the Reds love to do that. I guarantee you'll

2065
01:51:13,439 --> 01:51:15,599
Speaker 3: see that with Dane Meyers a lot this year as

2066
01:51:15,640 --> 01:51:22,320
Speaker 3: a center fielder. I don't know. I don't know, like

2067
01:51:22,720 --> 01:51:25,120
Speaker 3: is Spencer Steer, how often is he gonna play first?

2068
01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:26,639
Speaker 3: How often is he gonna play left?

2069
01:51:27,040 --> 01:51:27,160
Speaker 7: Right?

2070
01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:31,479
Speaker 3: That's the biggest and most fascinating thing to me is

2071
01:51:31,880 --> 01:51:36,519
Speaker 3: who's the backup second baseman? Is it Spencer Steer right?

2072
01:51:36,760 --> 01:51:39,880
Speaker 3: And how do you actually put these pieces together on

2073
01:51:39,960 --> 01:51:42,320
Speaker 3: a daily basis? And he said they don't want to

2074
01:51:42,520 --> 01:51:47,120
Speaker 3: block south Stewart. Tito said that, but they also need

2075
01:51:47,200 --> 01:51:49,080
Speaker 3: to make him earn it. So what exactly does that

2076
01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:49,439
Speaker 3: look like?

2077
01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:51,080
Speaker 2: But then I feel like it goes back to a

2078
01:51:51,120 --> 01:51:54,320
Speaker 2: conversation we had last year. If you're constantly figuring out, Okay,

2079
01:51:54,400 --> 01:51:57,120
Speaker 2: where is this guy gonna slide in, who's gonna play

2080
01:51:57,160 --> 01:51:59,920
Speaker 2: on what day? Does that not go against the ability

2081
01:52:00,120 --> 01:52:02,040
Speaker 2: guys to ever just feel comfortable in the lineup and

2082
01:52:02,080 --> 01:52:02,559
Speaker 2: where they're at.

2083
01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:08,040
Speaker 3: I think that's a very overblown thing. I can't say

2084
01:52:08,080 --> 01:52:10,000
Speaker 3: that for sure. I've never played in the big leagues,

2085
01:52:10,439 --> 01:52:12,880
Speaker 3: but like a guy like Spencer Steer, Tito has referenced

2086
01:52:12,920 --> 01:52:16,040
Speaker 3: him a lot, like he loves moving around different positions.

2087
01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:19,040
Speaker 3: Every day brings something new. I'm sure there is something to,

2088
01:52:19,600 --> 01:52:21,920
Speaker 3: you know, kind of getting into a routine, especially for

2089
01:52:22,040 --> 01:52:26,000
Speaker 3: baseball players. Sure, but I think if the lineup, if

2090
01:52:26,040 --> 01:52:28,160
Speaker 3: they can figure out who that two hole hitter is,

2091
01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:32,360
Speaker 3: it won't vary that much. I feel like for babyall offensively,

2092
01:52:32,479 --> 01:52:32,800
Speaker 3: it might.

2093
01:52:33,280 --> 01:52:36,320
Speaker 2: I feel like for baseball players in particular, you want

2094
01:52:36,360 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 2: to get to the ballpark and think, Okay, I know

2095
01:52:39,280 --> 01:52:40,360
Speaker 2: pretty much where I'm going.

2096
01:52:40,280 --> 01:52:42,920
Speaker 3: To be on a daily basis. Yeah, And it's like

2097
01:52:43,080 --> 01:52:45,600
Speaker 3: you get to the ballpark at two o'clock in the

2098
01:52:45,680 --> 01:52:48,960
Speaker 3: afternoon or one o'clock in the afternoon, you probably know

2099
01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:50,840
Speaker 3: where you're gonna play, and you got six hours to

2100
01:52:50,880 --> 01:52:51,400
Speaker 3: figure that out.

2101
01:52:51,520 --> 01:52:54,160
Speaker 2: Tito the Magnificent just Tanker in a little bit, a

2102
01:52:54,200 --> 01:52:56,360
Speaker 2: little bit of the day off Tanker and Tito Tanker

2103
01:52:56,439 --> 01:52:58,439
Speaker 2: and Tito since he shares dot Com.

2104
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:01,240
Speaker 3: Sincy three sixty.

2105
01:53:00,960 --> 01:53:03,599
Speaker 2: Hour number three more of your phone calls five one, three,

2106
01:53:03,680 --> 01:53:06,559
Speaker 2: seventy four nine, fifteen thirty some buyer sell as well.

2107
01:53:06,640 --> 01:53:09,519
Speaker 2: Coming up next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station,

2108
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Speaker 2: Welcome back since He three sixty ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

2109
01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:32,479
Speaker 2: Sports Station, Buy or Sell in just a few moments.

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01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:34,880
Speaker 2: We got a time for a few phone calls. We'll

2111
01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:40,120
Speaker 2: dive into those right now. What's up, Chris, Hey?

2112
01:53:40,240 --> 01:53:42,120
Speaker 6: Not much. A few minutes ago, you guys were talking

2113
01:53:42,160 --> 01:53:45,080
Speaker 6: about Sal Stewart versus Michael Busch.

2114
01:53:45,400 --> 01:53:47,519
Speaker 4: Yes, and yeah, I mean Michael.

2115
01:53:47,880 --> 01:53:50,160
Speaker 6: If Sal Stewart was Michael Busch, how would you guys

2116
01:53:50,240 --> 01:53:53,200
Speaker 6: not take that he hit thirty four home runs last year?

2117
01:53:53,280 --> 01:53:54,519
Speaker 6: He would be their answer?

2118
01:53:54,920 --> 01:53:56,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just looked it up. I didn't. I had

2119
01:53:56,760 --> 01:53:59,640
Speaker 3: no idea he hit thirty four homers. So yes, I

2120
01:53:59,640 --> 01:54:00,720
Speaker 3: would sign up for that.

2121
01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:03,680
Speaker 7: No, I'm like, holy moly, that would be awesome at

2122
01:54:03,720 --> 01:54:04,760
Speaker 7: his salary.

2123
01:54:04,680 --> 01:54:07,559
Speaker 3: Two sixty one and thirty four homers. Yeah, I retract

2124
01:54:07,600 --> 01:54:10,000
Speaker 3: my statement. I didn't realize Michael Bush was that good

2125
01:54:10,120 --> 01:54:10,559
Speaker 3: last year.

2126
01:54:11,439 --> 01:54:13,920
Speaker 6: I mean he was bad the year before, but I mean.

2127
01:54:14,080 --> 01:54:16,400
Speaker 2: But in twenty twenty four he still hit twenty one

2128
01:54:16,439 --> 01:54:17,960
Speaker 2: home runs. I would take that at this point.

2129
01:54:18,040 --> 01:54:19,880
Speaker 3: True, true, I agree.

2130
01:54:20,880 --> 01:54:23,160
Speaker 6: Is this team ever going to address this issue that

2131
01:54:23,240 --> 01:54:25,240
Speaker 6: we've talked about for a year and a half now

2132
01:54:25,360 --> 01:54:26,120
Speaker 6: with a power hitter?

2133
01:54:26,360 --> 01:54:26,400
Speaker 13: No?

2134
01:54:26,520 --> 01:54:29,479
Speaker 2: I mean it's almost it's almost like at this point,

2135
01:54:29,520 --> 01:54:32,200
Speaker 2: it's like a game of chicken, Like how long can

2136
01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:36,760
Speaker 2: we get a get away with not addressing offense before

2137
01:54:36,800 --> 01:54:38,680
Speaker 2: people just lose their minds? And I feel like we're

2138
01:54:38,680 --> 01:54:40,200
Speaker 2: pretty much borderline that already.

2139
01:54:41,480 --> 01:54:43,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I heard it, you know, on the rumor. You

2140
01:54:43,600 --> 01:54:45,560
Speaker 6: know how people throw stuff out on the internet. But

2141
01:54:45,680 --> 01:54:47,640
Speaker 6: somebody had a pretty good trade. I think it was

2142
01:54:48,240 --> 01:54:53,440
Speaker 6: Brady Singer for Tristan Caskas of Boston. Boston needs pitching,

2143
01:54:53,560 --> 01:54:56,200
Speaker 6: we need hitting, and that guy sort of locked in.

2144
01:54:56,320 --> 01:54:58,040
Speaker 6: I mean, he'd be a first baseman for us with

2145
01:54:58,160 --> 01:55:01,400
Speaker 6: a left handed bat. Make a chance on that, I mean,

2146
01:55:01,760 --> 01:55:05,360
Speaker 6: guy under control for four more years. They can hit

2147
01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:08,040
Speaker 6: the ball out of the ballpark. Ye, I mean at

2148
01:55:08,080 --> 01:55:11,000
Speaker 6: this point, take a chance, you know, done for something

2149
01:55:11,120 --> 01:55:11,320
Speaker 6: like that.

2150
01:55:11,760 --> 01:55:18,040
Speaker 2: That's the thing. At this point, why continue to operate

2151
01:55:18,080 --> 01:55:19,080
Speaker 2: in the same way you have?

2152
01:55:19,480 --> 01:55:19,840
Speaker 3: Why not?

2153
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Speaker 2: Why not branch out from that? And you have to

2154
01:55:24,520 --> 01:55:28,840
Speaker 2: know that if you do that, the fan base is

2155
01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:30,520
Speaker 2: going to support you. If you take a chance on

2156
01:55:30,560 --> 01:55:32,800
Speaker 2: a player like that who's got a proven track record

2157
01:55:33,240 --> 01:55:34,920
Speaker 2: and they just come in and have a down year,

2158
01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:38,040
Speaker 2: maybe you're talking about the hitting coach, Maybe you're doing

2159
01:55:38,120 --> 01:55:39,400
Speaker 2: something like that, but you're not going to say all

2160
01:55:39,440 --> 01:55:42,360
Speaker 2: the organization messed this up. I think they would be

2161
01:55:42,440 --> 01:55:44,640
Speaker 2: praised to say, man, at least the organization tried to

2162
01:55:44,680 --> 01:55:45,520
Speaker 2: do something different.

2163
01:55:46,960 --> 01:55:49,560
Speaker 6: Absolutely, they went for it. It didn't work, but hey,

2164
01:55:49,600 --> 01:55:51,800
Speaker 6: at least they gave it a shot with some guy.

2165
01:55:52,480 --> 01:55:55,880
Speaker 6: You know, I mean, you've got it. I mean, they've

2166
01:55:55,960 --> 01:55:58,280
Speaker 6: got to do something. You can't just go back and

2167
01:55:58,800 --> 01:56:01,640
Speaker 6: rerun it with this less. They really think south Stewart

2168
01:56:01,680 --> 01:56:04,480
Speaker 6: can hit the home runs. And I mean, I don't

2169
01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:05,920
Speaker 6: know if you guys know. They said he's worked the

2170
01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:09,600
Speaker 6: last two years with Manny Machado in the off season, which, yeah,

2171
01:56:09,800 --> 01:56:12,880
Speaker 6: they're Manny hits the ball long way to the opposite way.

2172
01:56:13,040 --> 01:56:15,480
Speaker 6: Maybe they really believe in it. But it's a big

2173
01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:16,720
Speaker 6: chance to take right now.

2174
01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:19,840
Speaker 3: Yep, without a doubt. Chris, thanks so much, thank you.

2175
01:56:20,200 --> 01:56:20,400
Speaker 7: Yep.

2176
01:56:21,240 --> 01:56:21,760
Speaker 13: One more here.

2177
01:56:21,800 --> 01:56:22,400
Speaker 3: What's up, Coop?

2178
01:56:24,800 --> 01:56:26,080
Speaker 9: Hey, what's going on? Tony?

2179
01:56:26,200 --> 01:56:26,640
Speaker 3: What's up?

2180
01:56:28,840 --> 01:56:29,800
Speaker 9: How's the rolling pimp?

2181
01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:32,840
Speaker 3: Living a dream man? Living to dream?

2182
01:56:33,920 --> 01:56:35,320
Speaker 9: Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this.

2183
01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:38,000
Speaker 9: First of all, I have two things really. Number one,

2184
01:56:38,920 --> 01:56:41,560
Speaker 9: I'm a big fan of sweet corn. I love sweet corn.

2185
01:56:41,800 --> 01:56:46,400
Speaker 9: Yeah it's delicious, But I am totally anti those little

2186
01:56:46,880 --> 01:56:51,280
Speaker 9: corn fork things. Whatever. Okay, here you go down that

2187
01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:55,920
Speaker 9: road of using a buying specialty utensil, you end up

2188
01:56:56,240 --> 01:57:00,800
Speaker 9: with specialty utensils and flatware for every food on him.

2189
01:57:01,040 --> 01:57:03,760
Speaker 9: You end up with pizza scissors. Before you know what,

2190
01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:09,560
Speaker 9: you've got these few fruit infused water bottles. Okay, it's

2191
01:57:09,600 --> 01:57:13,360
Speaker 9: a it's a dangerous game. So you need a fork

2192
01:57:13,400 --> 01:57:14,240
Speaker 9: and a knife.

2193
01:57:14,040 --> 01:57:17,200
Speaker 3: And a plate and a ball water bottles. So I

2194
01:57:17,320 --> 01:57:18,120
Speaker 3: used to have one of those.

2195
01:57:19,200 --> 01:57:21,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, they're ridiculous, right, I didn't even know.

2196
01:57:23,000 --> 01:57:23,160
Speaker 4: There.

2197
01:57:24,800 --> 01:57:25,800
Speaker 3: I'm learning so much.

2198
01:57:28,080 --> 01:57:30,720
Speaker 9: It's it's a it's a deadly game.

2199
01:57:30,800 --> 01:57:31,120
Speaker 3: Trust.

2200
01:57:32,400 --> 01:57:36,360
Speaker 9: I want to get to this aft TAB guy. I mean,

2201
01:57:38,520 --> 01:57:40,520
Speaker 9: first of all, we got a problem in general with

2202
01:57:40,680 --> 01:57:43,800
Speaker 9: our leaders reading the room. You got the ad Tony's

2203
01:57:43,880 --> 01:57:48,920
Speaker 9: best friend he's talking about he's talking about Ticketmaster. I mean,

2204
01:57:48,960 --> 01:57:51,320
Speaker 9: you got at tab. We're getting ready to go into

2205
01:57:51,400 --> 01:57:55,280
Speaker 9: possibly the biggest second, third, fourth, I don't know, a

2206
01:57:55,400 --> 01:57:58,800
Speaker 9: big football game, a huge football game for Cincinnati. And

2207
01:57:58,880 --> 01:58:01,560
Speaker 9: what does he do. He gets there and says that,

2208
01:58:02,520 --> 01:58:05,960
Speaker 9: I'm telling you it's terrible. And it's not just Cincinnati

2209
01:58:06,120 --> 01:58:09,560
Speaker 9: sports teams at the pro level. I do believe it's

2210
01:58:09,600 --> 01:58:13,400
Speaker 9: affected University of Cincinnati Clifton. We lost our coach after that,

2211
01:58:13,520 --> 01:58:14,280
Speaker 9: the football coach.

2212
01:58:14,400 --> 01:58:17,000
Speaker 3: The only guy we get wed with. That's true. Fickle left.

2213
01:58:18,080 --> 01:58:21,120
Speaker 9: Let's take it to the next level. Tony Sycamore football,

2214
01:58:21,200 --> 01:58:26,400
Speaker 9: they've a free games in the last four years. I

2215
01:58:26,600 --> 01:58:30,680
Speaker 9: blame aftab Man. I blame aft Tad Purvy Ball. It's

2216
01:58:30,760 --> 01:58:31,280
Speaker 9: his fall.

2217
01:58:31,800 --> 01:58:32,680
Speaker 7: It is a curse.

2218
01:58:33,680 --> 01:58:36,800
Speaker 9: It is a curse that has affected the whole try

2219
01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:37,760
Speaker 9: state Man.

2220
01:58:38,680 --> 01:58:40,880
Speaker 2: I think that's well said and well found out. Coop,

2221
01:58:40,960 --> 01:58:44,160
Speaker 2: thank you so much. Someone's got to shine the light

2222
01:58:44,240 --> 01:58:46,680
Speaker 2: on it. And right now, Austin, we don't know how

2223
01:58:46,760 --> 01:58:50,440
Speaker 2: deep this goes. It had Maybe it's trickled into Sycamore.

2224
01:58:51,120 --> 01:58:54,240
Speaker 2: Maybe it's trickled into Redding. Yeah, maybe it has messed up.

2225
01:58:54,240 --> 01:58:56,000
Speaker 2: And Luke Fickle is like, I can't be around this.

2226
01:58:56,240 --> 01:58:59,400
Speaker 3: Good point. I can't tie into this. When does it stop?

2227
01:59:00,560 --> 01:59:03,360
Speaker 3: When does it change? He should if he were smart,

2228
01:59:03,600 --> 01:59:05,400
Speaker 3: and I'm sure there are people down there at city

2229
01:59:05,440 --> 01:59:08,120
Speaker 3: Hall that listen to this show. If he were smart,

2230
01:59:08,160 --> 01:59:10,920
Speaker 3: he would come out and say, Man, on a three

2231
01:59:11,000 --> 01:59:14,120
Speaker 3: year anniversary, I wish I wouldn't have done this. Yeah,

2232
01:59:14,320 --> 01:59:16,920
Speaker 3: I should represent the Bengals in this city better than this,

2233
01:59:17,560 --> 01:59:20,280
Speaker 3: and I'm committed to doing that. And so for that reason,

2234
01:59:20,400 --> 01:59:24,480
Speaker 3: I apologize for this foolish proclamation. And I support the

2235
01:59:24,520 --> 01:59:28,840
Speaker 3: Bengals and wish them nothing but the best. Gosh Well said,

2236
01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:31,600
Speaker 3: if he had any brain at all, he would do that.

2237
01:59:34,480 --> 01:59:35,600
Speaker 3: What a day it would be to do it. You

2238
01:59:35,640 --> 01:59:37,760
Speaker 3: want to do? Buy or sell? Yes? Right now?

2239
01:59:38,080 --> 01:59:40,560
Speaker 2: Next we got to take a break. Oh we do,

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01:59:40,960 --> 01:59:43,480
Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

2241
01:59:45,000 --> 01:59:49,280
Speaker 1: From locker room whispers to stadium roars. He's got it all,

2242
01:59:49,800 --> 01:59:54,360
Speaker 1: Moeger today at three pm on ESPN fifteen thirty.

2243
01:59:58,360 --> 02:00:00,120
Speaker 2: How about this is an interesting when you brought U

2244
02:00:00,200 --> 02:00:05,320
Speaker 2: up today. Terry Francona coaches the Reds after this upcoming season, manages, manages.

2245
02:00:05,600 --> 02:00:08,720
Speaker 3: You don't want to hank him off. So I was

2246
02:00:08,760 --> 02:00:11,000
Speaker 3: told a story, you know, the magnificent I was told

2247
02:00:11,040 --> 02:00:13,960
Speaker 3: a story. At Redsfest, a friend of mine went to

2248
02:00:14,040 --> 02:00:18,720
Speaker 3: interview Terry Francona Tito and started the interview by saying, coach,

2249
02:00:19,040 --> 02:00:22,560
Speaker 3: oh no, and he said manager did he really? Yeah?

2250
02:00:23,040 --> 02:00:23,880
Speaker 3: See that bothers me.

2251
02:00:24,040 --> 02:00:25,920
Speaker 7: I know that that.

2252
02:00:27,720 --> 02:00:31,600
Speaker 3: It bothers me a little bit too. That bugs me. Yeah. Anyways,

2253
02:00:31,880 --> 02:00:34,680
Speaker 3: is Terry Francona managing this team after this year? So

2254
02:00:35,040 --> 02:00:38,880
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty seven or twenty eight. Yep, I'm selling it.

2255
02:00:39,280 --> 02:00:39,880
Speaker 3: I'm saying no.

2256
02:00:41,520 --> 02:00:44,880
Speaker 2: Now he is under contract for two more years. Okay,

2257
02:00:46,560 --> 02:00:51,440
Speaker 2: I will buy. I think he's here quite frankly, because

2258
02:00:51,440 --> 02:00:53,920
Speaker 2: I just don't think he's under a lot of pressure.

2259
02:00:54,320 --> 02:00:57,680
Speaker 3: I'll give you two names the next skippers of the Reds. Oh,

2260
02:00:58,400 --> 02:01:01,560
Speaker 3: Kurt Casally okay, now in the front office with the Giants,

2261
02:01:02,560 --> 02:01:07,920
Speaker 3: Mike Napoli on the current Red staff. Okay. One of

2262
02:01:08,000 --> 02:01:09,960
Speaker 3: those two guys gonna be the next skipper of the Reds.

2263
02:01:10,680 --> 02:01:14,200
Speaker 3: Tito will not go past twenty twenty seven, really, or

2264
02:01:14,280 --> 02:01:16,480
Speaker 3: past twenty twenty six. They won't play next year, there

2265
02:01:16,480 --> 02:01:20,200
Speaker 3: will be no baseball and then twenty twenty eight.

2266
02:01:20,320 --> 02:01:22,720
Speaker 2: So I didn't think of it that way. So if

2267
02:01:22,960 --> 02:01:26,480
Speaker 2: with the lockout looming, then yeah, this would probably be

2268
02:01:26,520 --> 02:01:29,240
Speaker 2: it for Tito. I don't think he would come back

2269
02:01:29,280 --> 02:01:32,280
Speaker 2: after the lockout. Okay, I'll buy it as well.

2270
02:01:33,400 --> 02:01:36,040
Speaker 3: That was easy. Are you buying or selling the South

2271
02:01:36,080 --> 02:01:40,840
Speaker 3: Stewart stock? This is one I would hold because I

2272
02:01:40,920 --> 02:01:45,720
Speaker 3: don't know what the plan is. The plan is the plan? Well,

2273
02:01:45,880 --> 02:01:48,960
Speaker 3: the Reds, it doesn't work. The plan is the plan?

2274
02:01:49,120 --> 02:01:51,840
Speaker 3: The plan doesn't work. It ain't that difficult, So for

2275
02:01:51,960 --> 02:01:56,760
Speaker 3: that reason, I'm gonna sell South Stewart stock because I

2276
02:01:56,840 --> 02:02:00,480
Speaker 3: don't yet believe in the plan. I'm buying sid that

2277
02:02:00,600 --> 02:02:02,840
Speaker 3: the plan is too much key Brian Hayes.

2278
02:02:05,160 --> 02:02:08,600
Speaker 2: I'm buying the South Stewart stock surely because I don't

2279
02:02:08,640 --> 02:02:09,360
Speaker 2: have anything else.

2280
02:02:09,240 --> 02:02:12,120
Speaker 3: To believe in. That's you know what, That's a great point.

2281
02:02:12,280 --> 02:02:17,600
Speaker 3: Like I know, I hope McLean has this resurgence, I

2282
02:02:17,680 --> 02:02:18,720
Speaker 3: really do. I hope.

2283
02:02:19,800 --> 02:02:22,520
Speaker 2: I hope Spencer Steer gets off to a much better start.

2284
02:02:22,560 --> 02:02:24,840
Speaker 2: I hope Noel they Martin and put together a whole season.

2285
02:02:26,120 --> 02:02:27,600
Speaker 2: The only one I don't know for sure right now

2286
02:02:27,720 --> 02:02:29,040
Speaker 2: is South Stewart. So I've got to put all my

2287
02:02:29,080 --> 02:02:32,240
Speaker 2: hope in that basket, so I'll buy it. Would you

2288
02:02:32,320 --> 02:02:34,120
Speaker 2: buy or sell Joe Brady as a head coach?

2289
02:02:34,800 --> 02:02:34,920
Speaker 10: Uh?

2290
02:02:35,120 --> 02:02:38,160
Speaker 3: I'm selling. I'm selling as well. Like I asked the

2291
02:02:38,240 --> 02:02:38,880
Speaker 3: question earlier.

2292
02:02:39,640 --> 02:02:42,160
Speaker 2: Was Joe Brady always the guy and they just wanted

2293
02:02:42,200 --> 02:02:44,480
Speaker 2: to make it formal and interview a bunch of candidates

2294
02:02:45,240 --> 02:02:46,240
Speaker 2: or did.

2295
02:02:46,120 --> 02:02:47,680
Speaker 3: The other interviews not go well? And I was like,

2296
02:02:47,800 --> 02:02:50,560
Speaker 3: I guess we did. We just promote Joe and keep

2297
02:02:50,640 --> 02:02:52,840
Speaker 3: in mind, you know, they had that press conference last

2298
02:02:52,880 --> 02:02:56,760
Speaker 3: week where Terry Pacola blamed the offensive coaching staff for

2299
02:02:56,840 --> 02:03:00,400
Speaker 3: taking key on right. Well, Joe Brady was that meet

2300
02:03:00,760 --> 02:03:03,200
Speaker 3: How about this though? I saw this from uh it's

2301
02:03:03,240 --> 02:03:06,920
Speaker 3: a Cleveland Browns podcast called the Dogs and they were

2302
02:03:07,040 --> 02:03:11,160
Speaker 3: going through all the different times NFL teams have promoted

2303
02:03:11,200 --> 02:03:13,880
Speaker 3: a coordinator to head coach and how it's gone. You

2304
02:03:14,000 --> 02:03:16,920
Speaker 3: ready for this? Yes, Freddy Kitchens with the Browns one

2305
02:03:17,040 --> 02:03:20,000
Speaker 3: year he was six and tenwsers Gerrod Mao with the

2306
02:03:20,040 --> 02:03:23,600
Speaker 3: Patriots one year he was four and thirteen. Antonio Pears

2307
02:03:23,680 --> 02:03:27,360
Speaker 3: with the Raiders one year, four and thirteen. Ben McAdoo

2308
02:03:27,400 --> 02:03:29,880
Speaker 3: with the Giants. Oh, a year and a half. Remember

2309
02:03:29,920 --> 02:03:31,920
Speaker 3: he had that big suit from when he was fat,

2310
02:03:32,720 --> 02:03:35,160
Speaker 3: thirteen and fifteen in one and a half years. Mike

2311
02:03:35,240 --> 02:03:39,200
Speaker 3: Malarkey from the Tennessee Titans. That's Malarkey two years, eighteen

2312
02:03:39,240 --> 02:03:41,640
Speaker 3: and fourteen record. He's the only coach on this list

2313
02:03:41,720 --> 02:03:44,600
Speaker 3: above five hundred man. Dennis Allen with the Saints two

2314
02:03:44,640 --> 02:03:46,760
Speaker 3: and a half years, he was eighteen and twenty five.

2315
02:03:47,400 --> 02:03:51,160
Speaker 3: Dirk Cutter with the Bucks three years, nineteen and twenty nine.

2316
02:03:51,800 --> 02:03:54,920
Speaker 3: Doug Morone with the Jags for Doug twenty two and

2317
02:03:55,120 --> 02:03:58,640
Speaker 3: forty two. Frank Reich with the Colts six years. He

2318
02:03:58,760 --> 02:04:02,080
Speaker 3: was forty one forty three one. There is one current

2319
02:04:02,400 --> 02:04:05,800
Speaker 3: head coach in the NFL who was promoted from coordinator

2320
02:04:05,840 --> 02:04:07,880
Speaker 3: to head coach, not including Joe Brady. Do you know

2321
02:04:07,920 --> 02:04:08,280
Speaker 3: who it is?

2322
02:04:08,440 --> 02:04:08,800
Speaker 7: I don't.

2323
02:04:09,160 --> 02:04:11,880
Speaker 3: Brian Schottenheimer with the Cowboys, and I think he's done well.

2324
02:04:11,960 --> 02:04:14,920
Speaker 3: I think he has, but one year so far, seven

2325
02:04:15,280 --> 02:04:18,480
Speaker 3: nine and one. Can you magically it doesn't work out?

2326
02:04:18,560 --> 02:04:20,800
Speaker 3: You imagine how insane it though if he does work

2327
02:04:20,840 --> 02:04:22,520
Speaker 3: out on all these folks. And since you're like, see,

2328
02:04:22,560 --> 02:04:24,560
Speaker 3: they should have done it. They should have got Joe

2329
02:04:24,560 --> 02:04:27,080
Speaker 3: Brady with Joe Burrow, You're starting to sound like the

2330
02:04:27,280 --> 02:04:32,520
Speaker 3: Shadoor Hive. How about this buy or sell? As of today,

2331
02:04:32,600 --> 02:04:34,400
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor is the best coach in the AFC North.

2332
02:04:36,120 --> 02:04:41,640
Speaker 3: Uh bye kidding me? Coached in the AFC North for

2333
02:04:41,880 --> 02:04:46,760
Speaker 3: several years. Oh boy, he's way better than Tomlin? Okay?

2334
02:04:48,360 --> 02:04:48,680
Speaker 4: Is he not?

2335
02:04:49,760 --> 02:04:55,360
Speaker 2: I would have taken Tomlin. I would have taken Harball. Harball,

2336
02:04:55,440 --> 02:04:57,760
Speaker 2: have the conversation. I'm not taking him over the other

2337
02:04:57,800 --> 02:05:00,600
Speaker 2: two guys, but I'll take him right now. That would

2338
02:05:01,000 --> 02:05:03,440
Speaker 2: no chance in hell I'm taking him over Mike Tomlin.

2339
02:05:03,600 --> 02:05:06,320
Speaker 2: That dude has done nothing. I'll take him now, who

2340
02:05:07,240 --> 02:05:11,640
Speaker 2: Zach Zach? Okay, last one? Yeah, we'll get to Mo.

2341
02:05:12,880 --> 02:05:15,800
Speaker 2: There is a chance I'm buying Mo Edgerstock. There is

2342
02:05:15,880 --> 02:05:20,640
Speaker 2: a chance that Scotty Scheffler can catch Tiger Woods as

2343
02:05:20,680 --> 02:05:22,720
Speaker 2: the number one rank offer for the.

2344
02:05:22,800 --> 02:05:25,240
Speaker 3: Longest amount of time, Yes and forever.

2345
02:05:25,680 --> 02:05:27,400
Speaker 2: Years and years ago, it felt like, man, he would

2346
02:05:27,400 --> 02:05:28,920
Speaker 2: have to be number one for this long and for

2347
02:05:29,000 --> 02:05:33,160
Speaker 2: this long, And now I believe you said October, it

2348
02:05:33,280 --> 02:05:35,400
Speaker 2: feels like it's actually attainable.

2349
02:05:35,480 --> 02:05:35,600
Speaker 7: Now.

2350
02:05:35,960 --> 02:05:37,880
Speaker 2: This is something I would have always sold because I

2351
02:05:37,880 --> 02:05:40,360
Speaker 2: always felt like this would never be achieved by anyone.

2352
02:05:41,320 --> 02:05:44,560
Speaker 2: But seeing Scotty Scheffler's dominance, I'm buying that he catches Tiger.

2353
02:05:45,560 --> 02:05:48,840
Speaker 3: Our golf reporter Drew wester Heidi said yesterday he would

2354
02:05:48,920 --> 02:05:51,680
Speaker 3: need to go until October of twenty twenty eight, Okay

2355
02:05:51,920 --> 02:05:54,560
Speaker 3: to catch Tiger. What's the dimple guy has to say?

2356
02:05:54,720 --> 02:05:58,680
Speaker 3: That is very doable. Yep. For Scotty Scheffler agreed. There

2357
02:05:58,840 --> 02:06:01,520
Speaker 3: is so much room. I believe Drew told me yesterday,

2358
02:06:01,680 --> 02:06:04,200
Speaker 3: there's the same amount of room between Scotty at number

2359
02:06:04,240 --> 02:06:07,680
Speaker 3: one and Rory at number two as there is between

2360
02:06:07,760 --> 02:06:09,680
Speaker 3: Rory at number two and like the five hundred and

2361
02:06:09,880 --> 02:06:11,280
Speaker 3: eightieth ranked golfer in the world.

2362
02:06:11,400 --> 02:06:15,720
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable dominance, and that's stupid, unbelievable dominance. Hopefully our

2363
02:06:15,760 --> 02:06:17,800
Speaker 2: dimple ball boys can let us know on that tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: I'm selling af tab pureful, af tab sold. Mullager Bye,

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02:06:24,800 --> 02:06:27,760
Speaker 2: He's next ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports station.

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02:06:29,320 --> 02:06:30,160
Speaker 3: That's it. That's all I got.

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02:06:33,160 --> 02:06:36,520
Speaker 1: Now it's time for a quick hits on Tony Pikes.

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02:06:36,600 --> 02:06:39,400
Speaker 1: Since he three p sixty was.

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02:06:39,440 --> 02:06:43,000
Speaker 3: Looking for mo, I don't know where he's at. I

2370
02:06:43,040 --> 02:06:45,000
Speaker 3: don't know he's not here yet. He should be there

2371
02:06:45,000 --> 02:06:46,760
Speaker 3: any moment. I haven't seen him yet.

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02:06:47,160 --> 02:06:47,240
Speaker 4: Now.

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02:06:47,240 --> 02:06:49,440
Speaker 2: I saw him earlier in the day. He was getting

2374
02:06:49,480 --> 02:06:51,560
Speaker 2: some work done here in the office. Yeah, but I've

2375
02:06:51,640 --> 02:06:53,720
Speaker 2: yet to see him. Didn't see him over the last

2376
02:06:53,760 --> 02:06:54,360
Speaker 2: couple of breaks.

2377
02:06:54,880 --> 02:06:57,240
Speaker 3: Well, he must have a big time show today then

2378
02:06:57,280 --> 02:06:58,480
Speaker 3: that he must be getting ready for.

2379
02:06:58,880 --> 02:07:04,160
Speaker 2: You would think so. Mike McCarthy today said pittsburgh'say his world.

2380
02:07:05,960 --> 02:07:09,400
Speaker 2: So maybe maybe Mike McCarthy will stick. Maybe they're buying him.

2381
02:07:09,280 --> 02:07:10,400
Speaker 3: In Pittsburgh, Big Mike.

2382
02:07:11,320 --> 02:07:13,800
Speaker 2: So you still you're saying you over the last couple

2383
02:07:13,800 --> 02:07:16,560
Speaker 2: of years, you take Zach Taylor over Mike Tomlin. Yeah, okay,

2384
02:07:17,000 --> 02:07:20,720
Speaker 2: that's fair. I agree, that's fair. I agree Moe's in

2385
02:07:20,760 --> 02:07:23,720
Speaker 2: the room. I agree, what about tom What about Zach

2386
02:07:23,800 --> 02:07:27,840
Speaker 2: over Harball? I don't think the Baltimore Ravens have been

2387
02:07:27,880 --> 02:07:29,120
Speaker 2: well coached the last few years?

2388
02:07:29,400 --> 02:07:31,280
Speaker 3: Thank you? What about over Stefanski?

2389
02:07:33,040 --> 02:07:36,840
Speaker 22: I hard to judge.

2390
02:07:37,000 --> 02:07:37,960
Speaker 3: Got a Pro Bowl quarterback?

2391
02:07:38,080 --> 02:07:40,280
Speaker 22: I mean, like one arm tied behind his back. I

2392
02:07:40,360 --> 02:07:43,440
Speaker 22: think Mike Tomlin the last number of years has been underwhelming.

2393
02:07:43,600 --> 02:07:47,680
Speaker 22: Now they've been in quarterback purgatory. I think they've basically,

2394
02:07:47,840 --> 02:07:50,760
Speaker 22: to me, like Mike Tomlin's David Bell. They've been what

2395
02:07:50,880 --> 02:07:52,720
Speaker 22: they are supposed to be the last couple of years,

2396
02:07:52,760 --> 02:07:54,680
Speaker 22: which is what the Reds always were with David Bell.

2397
02:07:56,480 --> 02:07:58,160
Speaker 22: I think with John Harbaugh, I said this to day

2398
02:07:58,160 --> 02:08:00,720
Speaker 22: after he got fired. I haven't watched every Baltimore Ravens snap,

2399
02:08:00,840 --> 02:08:03,120
Speaker 22: but when I have watched them, including obviously in games

2400
02:08:03,160 --> 02:08:06,840
Speaker 22: against the Bengals, I've often walked away thinking, man, they're

2401
02:08:06,920 --> 02:08:09,240
Speaker 22: not very well coached. Man, they don't give the ball

2402
02:08:09,280 --> 02:08:11,720
Speaker 22: to Derrick Henry enough. Man, it feels like they should

2403
02:08:11,800 --> 02:08:15,440
Speaker 22: be better. Now they won a bunch of games. Those

2404
02:08:15,560 --> 02:08:18,960
Speaker 22: two guys both have perhaps Hall of Fame resumes, but

2405
02:08:19,560 --> 02:08:23,080
Speaker 22: there's a reason those guys are out. And in Baltimore

2406
02:08:23,280 --> 02:08:26,400
Speaker 22: everybody felt like it's time. And at Pittsburgh a lot

2407
02:08:26,480 --> 02:08:28,160
Speaker 22: of folks felt like it's time.

2408
02:08:28,760 --> 02:08:32,080
Speaker 3: In Cincinnati, folks feel like, no question, I no question,

2409
02:08:32,240 --> 02:08:32,800
Speaker 3: that's valid.

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02:08:32,880 --> 02:08:35,160
Speaker 22: But like I don't think the job that John Harbaugh

2411
02:08:35,200 --> 02:08:38,720
Speaker 22: and Mike Tomlin have done over the last couple of years, Like,

2412
02:08:38,840 --> 02:08:41,280
Speaker 22: look at all those games the Ravens lost that they

2413
02:08:41,360 --> 02:08:44,680
Speaker 22: had big leads in. Now again, they got to the

2414
02:08:44,720 --> 02:08:47,480
Speaker 22: AFC Championship game a couple of years ago, good.

2415
02:08:47,080 --> 02:08:49,840
Speaker 3: For him, nearly won a playoff game.

2416
02:08:49,920 --> 02:08:52,480
Speaker 22: Last year, Mark Andrews doesn't drop a two point conversion,

2417
02:08:52,520 --> 02:08:55,440
Speaker 22: they win that game in Buffalo. But like I think

2418
02:08:55,560 --> 02:08:59,200
Speaker 22: watching those two teams the last couple of years, I've

2419
02:08:59,320 --> 02:09:04,200
Speaker 22: often thought that the Mike Tomlin brand exceeds what you're

2420
02:09:04,200 --> 02:09:06,600
Speaker 22: actually seeing on the field. That I have felt like

2421
02:09:06,680 --> 02:09:09,000
Speaker 22: the Ravens haven't been that well coached.

2422
02:09:09,000 --> 02:09:11,880
Speaker 2: Would you feel more confident playing a game tomorrow against

2423
02:09:11,960 --> 02:09:12,879
Speaker 2: Tomlin or McCarthy.

2424
02:09:14,760 --> 02:09:23,360
Speaker 3: Who's my quarterback? Joey b Mmm, I'll take Mike McCarthy.

2425
02:09:23,440 --> 02:09:26,640
Speaker 2: Okay, you feel more confident against Harball or Jesse Minner,

2426
02:09:26,760 --> 02:09:27,280
Speaker 2: I think.

2427
02:09:28,160 --> 02:09:30,240
Speaker 22: Well, I mean, Jesse Miner has never been a coach,

2428
02:09:30,280 --> 02:09:34,080
Speaker 22: But yeah, Mike Tomlin's like game management is atrosus. Yeah

2429
02:09:34,760 --> 02:09:38,520
Speaker 22: is atrocious. Yeah, he's a fun press conference, an awesome resume,

2430
02:09:38,720 --> 02:09:41,960
Speaker 22: great leader, awesome motivator. But like even some of the

2431
02:09:42,040 --> 02:09:48,040
Speaker 22: glowing post mortems of Mike Tomlin acknowledge, he is involved

2432
02:09:48,080 --> 02:09:50,480
Speaker 22: in the x's and o's, but that's not where his

2433
02:09:50,600 --> 02:09:53,920
Speaker 22: strength lies. Sure, I think it's motivational, and I think

2434
02:09:53,920 --> 02:09:56,560
Speaker 22: it's setting a tone. And like watching the Steelers in

2435
02:09:56,600 --> 02:09:59,040
Speaker 22: playoff games in recent years, watching them in big games,

2436
02:09:59,480 --> 02:10:01,960
Speaker 22: I have felt like they got out toughed. So if

2437
02:10:02,040 --> 02:10:04,960
Speaker 22: he's not the the ex'es and o's genius and the

2438
02:10:05,040 --> 02:10:07,320
Speaker 22: guy who's setting the tone has his team's getting out

2439
02:10:07,400 --> 02:10:09,720
Speaker 22: tough and he's a bad game manager.

2440
02:10:09,680 --> 02:10:11,360
Speaker 3: What's he doing? Is he doing that good of a job?

2441
02:10:11,880 --> 02:10:13,400
Speaker 3: What do you have coming up on your program today?

2442
02:10:13,400 --> 02:10:16,720
Speaker 22: Paul Danner Junior, It's mock off season time? Got the spreadsheet?

2443
02:10:17,200 --> 02:10:21,200
Speaker 22: Got the spreadsheet? Yes, Joe Brady is the new coach

2444
02:10:21,240 --> 02:10:24,640
Speaker 22: of the Buffalo Bills. Imagine if this goes well in

2445
02:10:24,680 --> 02:10:28,440
Speaker 22: Buffalo and it goes poorly for Joe and Cincinnati could

2446
02:10:28,480 --> 02:10:32,120
Speaker 22: have had Joe Brady. What if Joe Brady wins with

2447
02:10:32,240 --> 02:10:36,080
Speaker 22: Josh Allen? What if Joe Brady wins with Josh Allen?

2448
02:10:37,200 --> 02:10:41,000
Speaker 22: Why do we accept the Reds accepting mediocrity.

2449
02:10:41,680 --> 02:10:43,920
Speaker 3: Because we've been beaten down to believe there's no hope.

2450
02:10:44,120 --> 02:10:46,920
Speaker 22: I'm trying to be the voice in the wilderness going, hey,

2451
02:10:47,160 --> 02:10:49,680
Speaker 22: let's not be okay with the Reds being go okay

2452
02:10:49,760 --> 02:10:53,200
Speaker 22: with mediocre. So the voice we need, I'm gonna Trypathy

2453
02:10:53,240 --> 02:10:56,640
Speaker 22: has set in. Yeah, it's and it's like folks I

2454
02:10:56,720 --> 02:10:59,280
Speaker 22: think are still gonna watch and pay attention. But it

2455
02:10:59,400 --> 02:11:02,120
Speaker 22: is remarkable to me that you have people who like

2456
02:11:02,200 --> 02:11:04,960
Speaker 22: talk about last year's team like it was good.

2457
02:11:05,200 --> 02:11:06,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing.

2458
02:11:06,960 --> 02:11:09,720
Speaker 2: When you piece together the whole, When you piece together

2459
02:11:09,760 --> 02:11:11,760
Speaker 2: the whole offseason, it's maddening.

2460
02:11:11,840 --> 02:11:12,680
Speaker 3: There's nothing to piece to.

2461
02:11:13,800 --> 02:11:16,520
Speaker 2: We want Schwarber, but he hits home runs. But we

2462
02:11:16,600 --> 02:11:18,120
Speaker 2: don't want to be a power team, even though every

2463
02:11:18,160 --> 02:11:19,640
Speaker 2: other team that comes in as a power team, and

2464
02:11:19,720 --> 02:11:21,520
Speaker 2: we know we're not gonna be good on offense. We're

2465
02:11:21,520 --> 02:11:23,000
Speaker 2: also not going to run on the base pans. And

2466
02:11:23,040 --> 02:11:24,680
Speaker 2: now we're going to wait because our guys we like,

2467
02:11:24,720 --> 02:11:26,520
Speaker 2: but we don't know what the money's gonna be even

2468
02:11:26,560 --> 02:11:28,360
Speaker 2: though you had the money to give the like everything

2469
02:11:28,520 --> 02:11:31,640
Speaker 2: nothing makes sense against itself, and everyone's just kind of

2470
02:11:31,720 --> 02:11:34,360
Speaker 2: blindly walking like well, okay, let's see the opening days

2471
02:11:34,400 --> 02:11:35,240
Speaker 2: how many days away?

2472
02:11:35,280 --> 02:11:37,680
Speaker 22: We talked last week about how like, all right, you

2473
02:11:37,760 --> 02:11:40,720
Speaker 22: didn't get Schwarber. If you ask got the hottest girl

2474
02:11:40,800 --> 02:11:42,520
Speaker 22: in school to the prom and she says no, do

2475
02:11:42,600 --> 02:11:43,680
Speaker 22: you just not go to the prom?

2476
02:11:44,320 --> 02:11:44,760
Speaker 9: Or do you go?

2477
02:11:44,960 --> 02:11:45,280
Speaker 4: All right?

2478
02:11:45,360 --> 02:11:48,120
Speaker 22: Fine, there's other fishing out there, somebody else, and and

2479
02:11:48,280 --> 02:11:51,000
Speaker 22: like folks called my show and were like, yeah, yeah,

2480
02:11:51,040 --> 02:11:52,480
Speaker 22: that's kind of exactly what would happen.

2481
02:11:52,600 --> 02:11:55,880
Speaker 3: Like really where we're at, I mean, it is. It

2482
02:11:56,080 --> 02:11:57,080
Speaker 3: is remarkable.

2483
02:11:57,120 --> 02:12:00,120
Speaker 22: We folks, for like thirty six hours got in to

2484
02:12:00,240 --> 02:12:02,160
Speaker 22: the idea that they're gonna sign Kyle Schwarber.

2485
02:12:02,560 --> 02:12:04,600
Speaker 3: Thought that this gonna happen. It didn't. And it's kind

2486
02:12:04,640 --> 02:12:09,240
Speaker 3: of like, okay, well, JJ try so I am. I

2487
02:12:09,400 --> 02:12:11,240
Speaker 3: am trying to be the.

2488
02:12:11,320 --> 02:12:15,080
Speaker 22: Voice in the wilderness. Maybe screaming into an echo chamber.

2489
02:12:15,240 --> 02:12:18,560
Speaker 22: Going eighty three wins is not good enough, man. Bringing

2490
02:12:18,720 --> 02:12:21,240
Speaker 22: last year's team back is not good enough. Oh and

2491
02:12:21,360 --> 02:12:24,280
Speaker 22: by the way, the other teams who want a Euhanio

2492
02:12:24,400 --> 02:12:27,000
Speaker 22: Souarez are not going to wait around for the Reds

2493
02:12:27,040 --> 02:12:28,800
Speaker 22: to figure out what money they're gonna get from their

2494
02:12:28,880 --> 02:12:29,800
Speaker 22: TV contract.

2495
02:12:29,920 --> 02:12:30,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2496
02:12:31,200 --> 02:12:33,480
Speaker 2: Uh, if you need it today, I don't know what

2497
02:12:33,560 --> 02:12:36,000
Speaker 2: his schedule looks like, but if you need an aft

2498
02:12:36,040 --> 02:12:39,120
Speaker 2: TAB three years ago today, Austin would be available.

2499
02:12:39,920 --> 02:12:41,440
Speaker 3: I just settled down nothing.

2500
02:12:43,120 --> 02:12:46,919
Speaker 2: You could talk about the collapse against Pittsburgh in the playoffs.

2501
02:12:46,960 --> 02:12:48,760
Speaker 2: You could talk about what the Reds have done or not.

2502
02:12:49,240 --> 02:12:51,360
Speaker 2: You cannot find a way to get under Austin's skin

2503
02:12:51,480 --> 02:12:54,200
Speaker 2: more than mentioning in aft tab pure vol So.

2504
02:12:54,360 --> 02:12:58,040
Speaker 22: You want my Aftab story please. When Aftab was running

2505
02:12:58,080 --> 02:13:01,520
Speaker 22: for Clerk of Courts, I believe I was living on

2506
02:13:01,600 --> 02:13:04,680
Speaker 22: the West end of Cincinnati. We had a newborn at home.

2507
02:13:05,040 --> 02:13:08,440
Speaker 22: We also had a dog. When the newborn would take nabs,

2508
02:13:08,520 --> 02:13:10,720
Speaker 22: we would put a sign out sign saying please don't

2509
02:13:10,800 --> 02:13:16,000
Speaker 22: knock because the dogs. One Saturday afternoon, I'll never forget this.

2510
02:13:16,720 --> 02:13:23,320
Speaker 22: I'm in my home office that I had. Sure, Okay,

2511
02:13:23,400 --> 02:13:25,640
Speaker 22: that's interesting, all right, I know I put the sign

2512
02:13:25,680 --> 02:13:27,400
Speaker 22: out there. I know I put the sign out there.

2513
02:13:27,680 --> 02:13:33,800
Speaker 22: Dog doesn't bark, okay, cool, So then hounding on the door.

2514
02:13:34,280 --> 02:13:37,320
Speaker 22: So like I look at the window and I see

2515
02:13:37,360 --> 02:13:40,760
Speaker 22: these people wearing like these shirts that say across the

2516
02:13:40,800 --> 02:13:45,160
Speaker 22: front alf tab. He's running for clerk, of course, so

2517
02:13:45,400 --> 02:13:48,080
Speaker 22: like one more time. Now the dog is losing its mind.

2518
02:13:48,400 --> 02:13:50,400
Speaker 22: And I opened the door and I go, did you

2519
02:13:50,520 --> 02:13:52,920
Speaker 22: not see the sign? And they're like, well, sir, we

2520
02:13:52,960 --> 02:13:54,800
Speaker 22: wanted to talk to you about alf tab And I go, well,

2521
02:13:54,880 --> 02:13:56,040
Speaker 22: let me. I want to talk to you about a

2522
02:13:56,160 --> 02:13:58,440
Speaker 22: sign on the door that says, do not knock, don't

2523
02:13:58,480 --> 02:14:01,160
Speaker 22: ring the doorbell. I've got a three month old, I've

2524
02:14:01,160 --> 02:14:03,680
Speaker 22: got a dog. The three month old was taking the NAT.

2525
02:14:03,800 --> 02:14:06,080
Speaker 22: Now she's not. She's losing her mind because the dog

2526
02:14:06,200 --> 02:14:08,480
Speaker 22: is barking. Why is the dog barking? Because you don't

2527
02:14:08,480 --> 02:14:10,960
Speaker 22: know how to read a sign. I decided that day

2528
02:14:11,120 --> 02:14:14,160
Speaker 22: I don't care what AFTABS platforms are. By the way,

2529
02:14:14,240 --> 02:14:17,880
Speaker 22: First of all, fix the potholes. I have three requests. Okay,

2530
02:14:18,280 --> 02:14:20,400
Speaker 22: put the cameras up in Laurel Park, which you said

2531
02:14:20,440 --> 02:14:22,360
Speaker 22: you were going to do a year ago and didn't. Okay,

2532
02:14:22,520 --> 02:14:26,400
Speaker 22: Number two, fix the potholes. Number three, make the parking

2533
02:14:26,520 --> 02:14:31,160
Speaker 22: cheaper downtown. Yes, but can your campaign workers understand when

2534
02:14:31,200 --> 02:14:34,000
Speaker 22: the sign says please do not and it was night,

2535
02:14:34,120 --> 02:14:38,160
Speaker 22: please do not knock infant, sleeping dog at homes. Whatever

2536
02:14:38,240 --> 02:14:39,680
Speaker 22: it was like it was, it was a sign we

2537
02:14:39,800 --> 02:14:42,600
Speaker 22: bought you. So I decided that day I don't care

2538
02:14:42,680 --> 02:14:44,760
Speaker 22: what his platform is. I didn't even know what party

2539
02:14:44,840 --> 02:14:46,760
Speaker 22: he was a part of. I didn't vote for that guy.

2540
02:14:47,200 --> 02:14:49,920
Speaker 22: If your dumb campaign workers can't read a sign that

2541
02:14:50,080 --> 02:14:53,240
Speaker 22: say please don't knock on the door, like all the

2542
02:14:53,440 --> 02:14:56,080
Speaker 22: door to door solicitors would get it. Amazon guy would

2543
02:14:56,080 --> 02:14:59,280
Speaker 22: get it. Everybody else got it except AFTABS campaign workers

2544
02:14:59,520 --> 02:15:04,160
Speaker 22: with right pink shirts that said AFTAB. So I decided that.

2545
02:15:04,320 --> 02:15:06,560
Speaker 22: So when I saw the video that he made, I'm like,

2546
02:15:06,960 --> 02:15:09,760
Speaker 22: this guy works as people surrounding him who are morons,

2547
02:15:10,880 --> 02:15:13,880
Speaker 22: because somebody should have stepped up and said let's not

2548
02:15:14,040 --> 02:15:16,200
Speaker 22: do this. So I don't blame him. I have TAB

2549
02:15:16,320 --> 02:15:18,520
Speaker 22: wasn't going door to door that day, but I said,

2550
02:15:18,600 --> 02:15:20,520
Speaker 22: that guy doesn't know how to hire the right people.

2551
02:15:20,640 --> 02:15:24,080
Speaker 22: And what happened that day with that video, nobody stepped

2552
02:15:24,160 --> 02:15:28,120
Speaker 22: up to say, mister mayor, don't do this. Instead, go

2553
02:15:28,240 --> 02:15:31,000
Speaker 22: fix the potholes, put the cameras up at Laurel Park

2554
02:15:31,480 --> 02:15:35,920
Speaker 22: and make parking cheaper downtown. Also, like find something else

2555
02:15:35,960 --> 02:15:38,800
Speaker 22: for those parking meter people to do so they're not

2556
02:15:38,960 --> 02:15:41,960
Speaker 22: hovering by your car, you know, just waiting, just waiting,

2557
02:15:42,120 --> 02:15:43,720
Speaker 22: just wait, just And you go to the app and

2558
02:15:43,760 --> 02:15:45,760
Speaker 22: it's like, hey, man, here it is the many parking

2559
02:15:45,840 --> 02:15:48,360
Speaker 22: tickets I've gotten that I've paid for parking, and now

2560
02:15:48,400 --> 02:15:49,040
Speaker 22: I gotta.

2561
02:15:49,120 --> 02:15:52,040
Speaker 3: Send a screenshot to city hall. Hey, actually I did

2562
02:15:52,120 --> 02:15:54,320
Speaker 3: pay for parking. Can we get rid of those people?

2563
02:15:54,600 --> 02:15:54,760
Speaker 7: Huh?

2564
02:15:55,240 --> 02:15:58,040
Speaker 22: So af tab figure out the stuff that matters and

2565
02:15:58,120 --> 02:16:00,800
Speaker 22: then worry about the football. See and Hi, just me

2566
02:16:01,040 --> 02:16:04,280
Speaker 22: hire better people around you. Yeah, please don't knock on

2567
02:16:04,360 --> 02:16:08,280
Speaker 22: the door. Dog's gonna bark, kid's gonna wake up. Pretty simple,

2568
02:16:08,640 --> 02:16:11,520
Speaker 22: you get if you if you honor that request, you

2569
02:16:11,640 --> 02:16:13,040
Speaker 22: get my Clerk of Courts vote.

2570
02:16:13,480 --> 02:16:15,320
Speaker 2: I'm glad I get you a little round up for

2571
02:16:15,400 --> 02:16:17,680
Speaker 2: Paul Danner Junior to kick at the Mulgar Show.

2572
02:16:17,960 --> 02:16:18,440
Speaker 3: We're done.

2573
02:16:18,680 --> 02:16:21,880
Speaker 2: Maeger starts now on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

2574
02:16:21,960 --> 02:16:50,720
Speaker 2: Have a great Tuesday, So

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