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Speaker 1: All right, fifty five KRC. He talks stations, Joe Strucker

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Speaker 1: rolling out to Van Hale, and I'm Dan Carroll and

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Speaker 1: for Brian Thomas, who's taking a take a little breather today.

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Speaker 1: So it's my great honor to come before the fifty

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Speaker 1: five KRC audience here in the morning. I got up, Joe.

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Speaker 1: I got up early this morning. Well not up, I

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Speaker 1: mean relatively relative to coming in and doing this show.

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Speaker 1: And I was reading last night about the coronal mass

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Speaker 1: ejection that the sun center our way over the weekend,

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be here and you're gonna be able

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Speaker 1: to see some Aurora borealis in the Cincinnati area starting

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Speaker 1: about midnight till about three point thirty four o'clock in

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Speaker 1: the morning. So I'm up before three and I'm thinking,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go outside and I'm gonna see the northern lights.

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Speaker 1: I got nothing, Joe, did you even look up this

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Speaker 1: morning when you came outside? It was cold? I mean

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Speaker 1: it felt like it has I mean we have, look,

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Speaker 1: we've had a few cold days, but this morning I

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Speaker 1: was thinking to myself, it really feels like January. But nonetheless,

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Speaker 1: but upon further analysis, I don't think I really did.

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Speaker 1: And I'm trying. I mean, this is it seems to me.

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Speaker 1: In the last seven eight months, we've had a handful

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Speaker 1: of days where they come out and say, hey, and

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Speaker 1: I've seen some of the pictures on My wife put

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Speaker 1: She looks at it. She hey, look at these pictures.

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Speaker 1: And people in northern Kentucky, people around the around our neighborhood,

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Speaker 1: So if you saw something five one, three, fifty five hundred,

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Speaker 1: too it was too cold. I don't blame him. It's

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Speaker 1: this morning. One of these days and me, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe I'll just have to bite the bullet and get on,

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Speaker 1: you know, one of those trips to Alaska or maybe Greenland.

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Speaker 1: You know, once we take over Greenland, we'll be up there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what do you really, what do you make

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Speaker 1: I do not understand. I understand. On one hand, I

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Speaker 1: I understand why strategically from a military and national security

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Speaker 1: Maybe our guest from bite Bart will have some sense.

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Speaker 1: Joe has set up a bunch of guests in the

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Speaker 1: o five, tom zoatowski seven point thirty, we will talk

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Speaker 1: And Julianna Freeman wrote a piece that talks about it's

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Speaker 1: really aimed at younger generations. Even when I say younger generations,

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Speaker 1: this very cold Tuesday morning, fifty five KRCV Talk station

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Speaker 1: stations and good morning once again, Dan Carroll in for

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Speaker 1: Brian Thomas. So I was talking about Julianna Freeman and

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Speaker 1: And he asked me earlier to tell my story about

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Speaker 1: to this piece and she talks. He was talking about

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Speaker 1: education now and how you know, one time when we

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Speaker 1: aspect of education. And she's making the case that we

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Speaker 1: of education. Media and technology are now embedded into education,

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Speaker 1: largely unexamined to compose the substances that we fully understand.

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Speaker 1: The teachers simply say, this is how the world works,

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Speaker 1: subjects has consequences. When everything is designed to be engaging,

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Speaker 1: nothing is allowed to be different. When learning must always entertain,

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Speaker 1: here can be a good thing. The solution is not

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Speaker 1: to abolish technology, but to separate it from immersion. Technology

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Speaker 1: and media should be taught as subjects, not atmospheres. Like

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Speaker 1: history or science. Students would study how digital algorithms shape

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Speaker 1: how media forms privilege to certain kinds of truth while

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Speaker 1: just as they learn when not to use chemicals or machinery.

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Speaker 1: America's teachers must inform students that they have a choice

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Speaker 1: between using technology and being used by it. The highest

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Speaker 1: civic skill in the digital age is not coding or

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Speaker 1: content creation, but the ability to look away And when's

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Speaker 1: the when's the last time you hurt anyone? Say anything

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Speaker 1: like that, The ability to look away using technology. Sure,

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Speaker 1: it's a great thing, but letting it run your life

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Speaker 1: really think that's uh, that's what she is, what she's

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Speaker 1: saying here. But schools cannot teach what families refuse to practice.

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Speaker 1: A child cannot learn to look away from technology if

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Speaker 1: where emotionally needy children often drives the very dependency educators

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Speaker 1: are called to undo. Today, many children live in dual

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Speaker 1: income households. Both mom and dad are often at work,

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Speaker 1: other parents are divorced, but the outcome is the same

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Speaker 1: a discomforted, confused, and overwhelmingly stressed out child left to

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Speaker 1: escape without consequence. Online identity is malleable, Pain can be muted,

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Speaker 1: attention can be curated, and the self can be endlessly

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Speaker 1: reinvented across user names, platforms and digital avatars. And just

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Speaker 1: a country capable of attention, judgment and self command, the

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Speaker 1: work does not begin with schools, platforms or policy. It

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Speaker 1: I mean, all this stuff that she talks about in here,

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Speaker 1: And what does it all boil down to. It all

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Speaker 1: on this Tuesday morning, Dan Carolyn for Brian Thomas. Brian

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Speaker 1: So I am glad to be here in his stead

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Speaker 1: Joe Streker rolling out the van Halen always love that. Joe,

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Speaker 1: do you want you want me to tell that that

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Speaker 1: story right now about the scorpions. He's not answering. So

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Speaker 1: the last hour Joe Streker rolled out the intro to

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Speaker 1: the Zoo by the Scorpions, and he said, he said,

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Speaker 1: played Detroit Rock City And I said, well, I got

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Speaker 1: a story about the scorpions too. So this goes back

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Speaker 1: You know, I walked into the the barracks that I

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Speaker 1: know why, but people were watching General Hospital like that

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Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, well, I've seen this, say this was

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Speaker 1: also back then when you went to Okinawa, Japan, and

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Speaker 1: the barracks and it was it wasn't anything great, but

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Speaker 1: and they're explaining things to you, and you know, where's

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at this and I'm listening to the music

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Speaker 1: these guys are playing. And at that time, no one's

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Speaker 1: playing The Scorpions. No one. And before I had left

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Speaker 1: the States, the Scorpions and the and the Zoo, that

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Speaker 1: find a Scorpions album with the Zoo on it, and

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Speaker 1: the door open, I just turned I just cranked it

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Speaker 1: my door. What is that? What is that? I'm like,

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Speaker 1: that's the Scorpions. I've never heard that before. It was awesome.

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Speaker 1: And at that time the Scorpions had were relatively new

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Speaker 1: to the States. They had some commercial success in Germany

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Speaker 1: is today, when you know, when when some artists drops

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Speaker 1: United States could be two completely different things. So the

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Speaker 1: Scorpions were did not have they Then they put out

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Speaker 1: I don't know, three or four albums before this album

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Speaker 1: in the album, just fool of great songs, just a

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Speaker 1: full of great rock, hard rock, hard rock and music.

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Speaker 1: And it wasn't but a few days later, everyone walk

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Speaker 1: And we played it continuously, wore the grooves out on it.

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Speaker 1: So that's my that's my star wry about the Scorpions

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Speaker 1: and the zoo.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I want to get into some of the audio that

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Speaker 1: I brought in today, and this is one from a

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Speaker 1: couple of days ago, Josh Hawley. There was a hearing,

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Speaker 1: and you may have heard about this. There was a

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Speaker 1: hearing in the Senate and the hearing was about was

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Speaker 1: about abortion pills and you and I guess now, if

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Speaker 1: if you want to have an abortion, you can you

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Speaker 1: can send away online, you can get the pills delivered

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Speaker 1: And there there are a lot of people who will

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Speaker 1: tell you that, oh, this is perfectly safe. You pop

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Speaker 1: was having heering a hearing on this is this something

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Speaker 1: that should be continued. And one of the doctors, a

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Speaker 1: obviously in favor of getting your abortion drugs in the mail,

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Speaker 1: sounded like this, Joe, let's hear cut number five?

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Speaker 2: Do you think that men can get pregnant?

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Speaker 7: I hesitated there because I wasn't sure where the conversation

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Speaker 7: do take care of patients with different identities. I take

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Speaker 7: different identities, and so that's where I paused. I think, yeah,

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Speaker 7: I wasn't sure where you were going with that.

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Speaker 2: Well, the goal is is the truth? So can men

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Speaker 2: get pregnant?

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Speaker 7: Again? The reason I paused there is I'm not really

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Speaker 7: sure what the goal of the question.

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Speaker 2: Goal is is to establish a biological reality.

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Speaker 8: You just said a moment ago that science and evidence

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Speaker 8: should control not politics.

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Speaker 2: So let's just test that proposition. Can men get pregnant?

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Speaker 7: I take care of people with many identities.

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Speaker 2: But can men get pregnant.

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Speaker 7: Many women that can get pregnant. I do take care

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Speaker 7: of people that don't identify as women.

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Speaker 2: That can Can men get pregnant?

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Speaker 7: Again, as I'm saying, let me just.

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Speaker 8: Remind you testified to a moment ago. Science and evidence

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Speaker 8: should control not politics. So should can men get pregnant?

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Speaker 8: You're a doctor at day.

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Speaker 7: Science and evidence should guide medicine.

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Speaker 8: I do science and evidence tell us that men can

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Speaker 8: get pregnant? Biological men? Can they get pregnant?

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Speaker 7: I also think yes, no questions like this are a

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Speaker 8: No, yes, no questions are about the truth. Doctor, Let's

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Speaker 8: not make a mockery of this proceeding. This is about

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Speaker 8: science and evidence. So I'm asking you. You know, the

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Speaker 8: United States Supreme Court just heard arguments yesterday at great

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Speaker 8: lengths on this question. This is not a hypothetical question.

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Speaker 8: This is not theoretical that affects real people in their

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Speaker 8: real lives. And you're here as an expert, called by

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Speaker 8: the other side as an expert, and you've been telling

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Speaker 8: us that you that you follow right, You're a doctor

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Speaker 8: and you follow the science and the evidence. So I

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Speaker 8: just want to know, based on the science, can men

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Speaker 8: get pregnant. That's a yes or no question, it really is.

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Speaker 7: I think I think you're trying to reduce the complexity.

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Speaker 3: Of a low I'm not.

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Speaker 8: I'm trying to get it's not complex. I'm trying to

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Speaker 8: get to an answer. And I'm trying to test, frankly,

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Speaker 8: your veracity as a medical professional and as a scientist,

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Speaker 7: I think you're also conflating this extraordinary forgot i'mating, okay, Joe.

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Speaker 1: So look, you get the idea, you get the flat

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Speaker 1: And this went on for five minutes. Hey, when you

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Speaker 1: when you when you're a hearing like that, that's all

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Speaker 1: you get. You get five minutes, say they ask questions,

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Speaker 1: and he spent his entire time. And you've got this

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Speaker 1: doctor nishe Verman. And and in the end, she did

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Speaker 1: not answer the question. She did not. This is a

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Speaker 1: This is a woman who is so ideologically drin, who

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Speaker 1: that you have with the left in this country, that

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Speaker 1: the agenda trumps everything everything else, everything including a simple

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Speaker 1: but yet she couldn't bring herself to say it. Got

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Speaker 1: just played the clip from the Senate hearing with Josh

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Speaker 1: Holly asked asking doctor Niche of Verma if men can

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Speaker 1: get pregnant, and she was She was stumped by that one,

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Speaker 1: couldn't bring herself to answer the question. Jamie, you're on

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Speaker 9: I'm great, Dan, Thank you so much for taking my call.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for picking up.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, the technology chat has me very interested. I own

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Speaker 9: a school. We served kids ages three through eighth grade. Okay,

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Speaker 9: and I'm seeing in real time the kids brains have

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Speaker 9: extreme difficulty and problem solving critical thinking. We do no

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Speaker 9: technology at my school until they get to middle school.

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Speaker 9: Then they use it for very specific purposes. But you're right,

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Speaker 9: it does start at home. But I think the schools

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Speaker 9: are going to need to make some radical changes because

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Speaker 9: they are. I mean, daycares are putting two year olds

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Speaker 9: on iPads. I know this for a fact. In my community.

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Speaker 9: It's so outrageous.

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Speaker 1: And a two year old on an iPad that that

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Speaker 1: that that to me just sounds that sounds like an

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Speaker 1: absolute nightmare.

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Speaker 10: It is.

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Speaker 9: It's it's like in the moment, it can be calming, obviously,

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Speaker 9: but the brain gets used to meeting, like you were saying,

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Speaker 9: constant stimulation and constant you know, life and music, and

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Speaker 9: it's it's it's really a problem. I mean, it's really

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Speaker 9: a problem.

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Speaker 1: Well, Jamie, I'm I'm glad you listened to that piece

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Speaker 1: because she makes the case in here that boredom is

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Speaker 1: not a bad thing. Boredom is an opportunity for thought.

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Speaker 1: Boredom is an opportunity to think about things. Boredom is

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to step away from the constant stimulation and

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Speaker 1: rely on your own resources. You know, she writes in here,

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Speaker 1: the solution is not to abolish technology, but separate it out,

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Speaker 1: separate it from immersion. She says, you know, technology should

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Speaker 1: be taught as a subject in school like history or science.

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Speaker 1: It shouldn't be part of every single thing that you do.

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Speaker 1: And it sounds to me like that's what you're doing

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Speaker 1: at the school that you run.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and let me tell you also, when I get

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Speaker 9: new families, who I mean, I've had kids who are

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Speaker 9: addicted to video games. They'll do like a thirty or

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Speaker 9: sixty day challenge and it is unbelievable. The report is

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Speaker 9: just what you're saying. The creativity increases. They're able to, like,

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Speaker 9: you know, be by themselves and play and work and

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Speaker 9: do something thing without constant simulation. I mean, the feedback

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Speaker 9: pretty amazing. And it's hard, it's absolutely hard, but it's

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Speaker 9: completely worth it. I mean, you're protecting your child's brain

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Speaker 9: so that they can think, not only think, but manage

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Speaker 9: their emotions, you know, come against hard things and not

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Speaker 9: completely melt down and then be diagnosed with anxiety and

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Speaker 9: depression because of real life challenges that are going to

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Speaker 9: come for all of us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what what do you think when you go to

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Speaker 1: a social setting, whether it's a family event or an

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Speaker 1: event where there's people of your own age group who

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Speaker 1: are gathered at an event. And and I see this

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Speaker 1: more even with people of my own age. I like

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Speaker 1: to think that, you know, there's a pretty good group

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Speaker 1: that I hang around with and and uh, and we

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Speaker 1: actually sit around and talk to each other, and the

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Speaker 1: the you know, the cell of the cell phones and

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Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff as secondary. But I see

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Speaker 1: that is accepted and that's that's just what people do

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's really heartbreaking because especially young children, they need

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Speaker 9: to be conversing, they need to be talking, they need

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Speaker 9: to be communicating. We don't allow phones like in our

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Speaker 9: car line. We're very you know, we're not controlling about it.

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Speaker 9: We're trying to educate, but we need the kids to

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Speaker 9: arrive to school with their brains available and for every

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Speaker 9: you know, hour on an iPad or some kind of

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Speaker 9: device before they come to school. They're literally not available.

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Speaker 9: They cannot get online with learning for probably twenty to

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Speaker 9: thirty minutes. So it's really insane. I mean, if parents

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Speaker 9: I think that they would not be doing it. But

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Speaker 9: it's such an a normalized phenomenon now, and it's you know,

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Speaker 9: I'm hoping the tide is turning with articles like what

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Speaker 9: you just read. So I really.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate that, Jamie. I appreciate you picking up the phone call.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you weighing in on that, and keep up

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Speaker 1: the great work. And thank you so much for weighing

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Speaker 1: in on this this morning. And with that we will

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Speaker 1: move on, Jamie, Thank you so much. Six twenty five

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Speaker 1: cuts that I that I brought in this morning, and

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Speaker 1: this one is the yeah I'm seeing articles pop up

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Speaker 1: from time to time, and they seem to suggest that

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton, Joe, do you would you think for a

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Speaker 1: minute that Hillary Clinton is a viable candidate anymore for president?

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Speaker 1: I mean, hasn't she run her course? But there are

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Speaker 1: think Joe Biden not hot to run again. But Hillary

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Speaker 1: Clinton was on it doesn't matter what she the CNN

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Speaker 1: ms now they call it. I don't know. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they YEA. But she was on

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Speaker 1: this is not the first time she has said something

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Speaker 1: like this. But we just spent the last hour talking

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Speaker 1: about social media and how it how kids are dealing

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Speaker 1: don't really understand, but they get entangled in any way

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Speaker 1: and we need to have constant stimulation and social media.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt it is a very powerful force in

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Speaker 1: our life today, in society today. And guess who wants

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Speaker 1: to control all of it? Hillary Clinton. Let's hear cut

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Speaker 11: If the platforms, whether it's Facebook or Twitter x or

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Speaker 11: Instagram or TikTok, whatever they are, if they don't moderate

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Speaker 11: not just the social and psychological effects, it's real harm.

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Speaker 1: It's real harm. So there's Hillary Clinton, and God bless her,

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Speaker 1: she's only looking out for what's best for us because

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Speaker 1: and they really are the smart ones. They really are

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Speaker 1: the ones who need to have total, as she says,

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Speaker 1: total control of social media, because we all know there's

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Speaker 1: just so much fake and harmful stuff out there, and

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Speaker 1: I mean there is. But as sovereign American citizens, as

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Speaker 1: sovereign individuals unto ourselves, isn't it up to us ourselves

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Speaker 1: to decide what content we we take in, what content

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Speaker 1: we believe in, what content we act on. Isn't it? It

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Speaker 1: takes a village, According Joe Strecker and Hillary Clinton. But

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Speaker 1: make no mistake, she is still out there and this

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Speaker 1: is something that she has been preaching for a long

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Speaker 1: and the squad. And how how grateful would Tim Walls

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Speaker 1: be right now and this mayor in Minneapolis if they

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Speaker 1: could control all the media, if they could control everything

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Speaker 1: that is coming out of Minnesota, and in at least

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Speaker 1: Stephen Miller from the administration was on, and I've got

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Speaker 1: a couple of bites from Steve. Stephen Miller is just

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Speaker 1: just absolutely fantastic as a as a White House advisor,

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Speaker 1: and he was on. He was talking about laying it out,

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Speaker 1: why Tim Wall and the mayor there in Minneapolis, why

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Speaker 1: they want us to see what we are seeing on

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Speaker 1: TV right now? Cut number two.

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Speaker 12: What Democrats are doing is vote harvesting, fraud harvesting, ballot harvesting,

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Speaker 12: crime harvesting. Ask yourself, why would Fry, why would Waltz

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Speaker 12: sanction such egregious violence against ice officers? Because they understand

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Speaker 12: that this scheme, this mass migration scheme, is the heart

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Speaker 1: So they know that if.

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Speaker 12: This administration to President Trump is successful in reversing this invasion,

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Speaker 12: it will deal a generational blow to Democrat political power.

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Speaker 1: So they're Stephen Miller laying it out as plainly as

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Speaker 1: you possibly can that all the activity that we see

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Speaker 1: whenever there's an Ice agent on the street, all the

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Speaker 1: the churches now trying to claim that he's just a

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Speaker 1: journalist just exercising his First Amendment rights. Yes, but Stephen

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Speaker 1: Miller lays it out as plainly as you can possibly

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Speaker 1: lay it out. All part of a bigger plan, all

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Speaker 1: part of we know, we don't want to really talk

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Speaker 1: about the fraud. We don't want to talk about the

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Speaker 1: ballot harvesting that goes on. We don't want to talk

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Speaker 1: about all the other elements that are in play here

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Speaker 1: for Democrats to maintain their grip on power. I almost

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Speaker 1: said unbelievable there, but it's really not unbelievable. It's it's

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Speaker 1: par for the course. Six thirty five at fifty five KRC,

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Speaker 13: You're one stop for advertising called eight four four.

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Speaker 1: Talk station six thirty nine fifty five KRC, the talk station,

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Speaker 1: Little nude Ted Nugent, great stuff here. Remember when he

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Speaker 1: was in town. Got remember that time Joe Strucker, he

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Speaker 1: was in town, got arrested for shooting the flaming arrow.

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Speaker 1: And I was working, I was working overnights, doing news

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Speaker 1: overnight at over at seven hundred and Ted Nugent actually

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Speaker 1: spoke to I think it was Channel five that chased

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Speaker 1: him down and he was talking to me. You know,

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Speaker 1: got booked into the Justice Center and all that, and

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Speaker 1: he was talking about how you know he loves all

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Speaker 1: the sheriff step of ease, they love him. He was

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Speaker 1: signing autographs, having a great time. So yeah, he got

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Speaker 1: he got arrested. We got the got those open flame

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Speaker 1: laws here in Cincinnati back then that could not be tolerated.

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Speaker 1: One more cut from Steven Miller here, and this is

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Speaker 1: Steven Miller, and he was laying out if you want

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Speaker 1: to get a good handle on what the Minnesota fraud

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Speaker 1: is all about. He lays this out as only Steven

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Speaker 1: Miller can cut. Number one.

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Speaker 14: Believe that the Somali fraud operation in Minnesota is the

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Speaker 14: single greatest theft of taxpayer dollars through welfare fraud in

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Speaker 14: American history. We believe that we have only scratched the

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Speaker 14: very top of the surface of how deep this goes.

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Speaker 14: And you're familiar with all the scams, with pretending that

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Speaker 14: children have autism who are not in fact autistic, with

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Speaker 14: pretending to enroll people in food programs when in fact

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Speaker 14: nobody was ever enrolled, and engaging in massive fraud, lying,

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Speaker 14: and theft and grift on a scale we've never seen

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Speaker 14: before in American history. The total bill, the total tab

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Speaker 14: for this is going to be far beyond the numbers.

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Speaker 15: We've already seen reported.

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Speaker 14: We believe the state government is fully complicit in this scheme,

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Speaker 14: and we believe that what we are going to uncover

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Speaker 14: is going to shock the American people.

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Speaker 1: Look based on the.

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Speaker 14: Rutgers that we already have, this is a significant undercount.

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Speaker 14: By the way, seventy five percent of the Somali population

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Speaker 14: in Minnesota is on welfare. That's likely a significant undercount

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Speaker 14: of just how much of a financial burden the Somali

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Speaker 14: reffigee population is imposing.

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Speaker 1: On this country. So they're Stephen Miller and I think

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Speaker 1: that's one of the elements of this story that we

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Speaker 1: are largely forgetting about is not only was this Somali daycare,

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Speaker 1: this was the Feeding our Children program. They called it

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Speaker 1: Feeding the Future. And I believe this was really the

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Speaker 1: first element, the first component of this that was exposed

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Speaker 1: by the investigations that found I believe the number is

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Speaker 1: around sixty individuals already convicted in many of these cases

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Speaker 1: where they said they were feeding all these children on

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Speaker 1: a daily basis, tens of thousands of them, and it

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Speaker 1: was being done at a little, tiny restaurant, a restaurant

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Speaker 1: that's probably smaller or about the same size as the

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Speaker 1: studio I'm sitting in right now. How do you feed

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Speaker 1: tens of thousands of children out of a facility this

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Speaker 1: size every single day. And the fraud went on for years,

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Speaker 1: and they just said, hey, we're feeding all these kids.

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Speaker 1: Here's a government check has started doing the wluhan and

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Speaker 1: they just kept coming. And then you have the specter

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Speaker 1: of signing your kids up. Hey, I've got an autistic kid,

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Speaker 1: and God bless anyone with an autistic kid, and I

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Speaker 1: hope you get all the help that is out there

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Speaker 1: available to you. And this is what they were doing.

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Speaker 1: You have just some of the I think who sits

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Speaker 1: around and thinks of a scheme like this, Hey, we

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Speaker 1: can say we're treating autistic children. You get parents to

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Speaker 1: come in, parents, have a baby, cug go visit the

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Speaker 1: autistic clinic down the road there and you sign up.

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Speaker 1: You get a little kickback, you got some money coming in.

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Speaker 1: And then you go to another clinic and you sign

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Speaker 1: your kid up there, and another and another and another.

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Speaker 1: And then you have the housing aspect, housing for people

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Speaker 1: who are drug addicts, people who are veterans, people who

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Speaker 1: are elderly supposed to be helping out with some housing

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Speaker 1: issues there. That's a whole other component of the fraud.

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Speaker 1: So it's a lot more than just the daycare. You

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Speaker 1: have the transportation companies.

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Speaker 2: Try.

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Speaker 1: These transportation companies were set up and they were we're

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Speaker 1: giving people rides to their doctor's appointments, people who need help,

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Speaker 1: and you know we're doing this. We're doing that all

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Speaker 1: this transportation. One hundred bucks a ride, five hundred bucks

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Speaker 1: for this, five hundred bucks for that. And after a

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Speaker 1: while that starts to add up. So Steven Miller is

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Speaker 1: talking about they just scratched the surface on this, and

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Speaker 1: so do Tim Walls and do the does the mayor

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Speaker 1: need to keep the distractions out there, I mean the

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Speaker 1: what do they take over yesterday, Joel Walmart? Not a Walmart,

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Speaker 1: but as Target store. What's the purpose of that? What?

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Speaker 1: What does what does Target have to do with any

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Speaker 1: of this? I don't know, but they were in who

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Speaker 1: knows where? Do we know where they're gonna be today?

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Speaker 1: Are they gonna take over a Bucky's? They gonna No

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Speaker 1: one's gonna be able to get a brisket surround the

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Speaker 1: brisket table. You get all the Karen's out there with

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Speaker 1: their whistles and drums and no more, no more brisket

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Speaker 1: until they until they get their way. Sex forty five

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Speaker 1: Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas fifty five KRCD talks.

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Speaker 3: Days and Bags are us. We believe home improvement is

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Speaker 3: life improvement.

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Speaker 1: Six fifty On this Tuesday morning, Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas,

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Speaker 1: gonna be talking with brother Andre Ewing in a seven

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Speaker 1: o'clock hour, So I am looking forward to that and

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Speaker 1: we'll be kicking around some local issues. I want to

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Speaker 1: just wrap up the audio that I brought in this morning.

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Speaker 1: And I saw this cut late last night and it

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Speaker 1: appeared on my social media, and this is this goes

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Speaker 1: back to twenty ten. And so this whole notion of

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Speaker 1: going out and trying to get illegal aliens out of

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Speaker 1: the country, it is nothing new. What is new is

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Speaker 1: all the angst and all the protests and all the

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Speaker 1: phony Bologney gnashing of teeth and people being upset about

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Speaker 1: this and AA, these are our neighbors, and we're not gonna,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're not gonna let the Trump administration come

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Speaker 1: in and do what, you know, act like Nazis and

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Speaker 1: the Gestapo and all that. This goes back to twenty ten.

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Speaker 1: Here's a blast from the past. Janet Napolitana, who was

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Speaker 1: the director of Homeland Security. She was the Secretary of

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Speaker 1: Homeland Security under Barack Obama, and here she is extolling

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Speaker 1: all the virtues of the Obama administration and how they

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Speaker 1: dealt with the illegals in this country. Joe, can we

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Speaker 1: please hear cut number four.

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Speaker 6: We are here today to announce our progress on immigration

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Speaker 6: enforcement over the past year. But before I give you

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Speaker 6: some of the numbers, I'd like to step back and

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Speaker 6: provide some context to our immigration and border security efforts

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Speaker 6: as a whole. Since the beginning of the administration, we

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Speaker 6: have really I think strengthened the federal government's approach to

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Speaker 6: immigration enforcement, both at the border but also in the

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Speaker 6: interior of the country. We have deployed unprecedented infrastructure, unprecedented

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Speaker 6: technology manpower, particularly along the southwest border, including more than

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Speaker 6: seventeen thousand Border Patrol agents and twelve hundred National Guard

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Speaker 6: currently stationed at the southwest border.

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Speaker 5: So I am very.

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Speaker 6: Pleased to be standing here with our colleagues today to

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Speaker 6: say that as a result of this new strategic approach

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Speaker 6: and fiscal year two ten, immigration and Customs enforcement has, indeed,

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Speaker 6: as the Assistant Secretary said, broken a number of records. First,

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Speaker 6: in fiscal year twenty ten, ICE removed more than three

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Speaker 6: hundred and ninety two thousand illegal aliens, the most removals

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Speaker 6: in our or the highest number of removals in our

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Speaker 6: nation's history, and over twenty three thousand more than fiscal

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Speaker 6: year two thousand and eight. One half of these removals,

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Speaker 6: more than one hundred and ninety five thousand were convicted

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Speaker 6: criminal aliens. That is itself another record that, to give

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Speaker 6: you some context, is seventy percent more criminal aliens than

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Speaker 6: were removed by the previous administration in fiscal year two

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Speaker 6: thousand and eight. These record breaking statistics in twenty ten

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Speaker 6: built on the historic work that we began in two

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Speaker 6: thousand and nine. ICE has significantly increased the audits of

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Speaker 6: employers and the prosecutions of employers who repeatedly and egregiously

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Speaker 6: hire illegal workers.

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Speaker 1: All right, Joe, so Jane, I mean, this cut goes

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Speaker 1: on for about four minutes, but I think we get

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Speaker 1: the idea there. Listen to listen to Janet Napolitana from

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Speaker 1: twenty ten, and listen, this is some harsh language. This

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Speaker 1: is and and not even the majority she will what

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Speaker 1: she say about half half convictions, half are half engaged

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Speaker 1: in criminal activity, the number of illegal and what was

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Speaker 1: she called them? Illegal aliens, illegal criminals. I mean, that

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Speaker 1: is some That is some harsh. Are we even allowed

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Speaker 1: to say that anymore? And you say that these days

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Speaker 1: and people want to have a bother? No one's illegal.

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Speaker 1: This is the Obama administration. Where were all the demonstrations then?

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Speaker 1: Where were all these people who had to go out

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Speaker 1: and now they have to go out and stand up

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Speaker 1: and protect their name? Where were they then? Did we

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Speaker 1: see any of this in twenty ten? All this these

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Speaker 1: were democrats. You will never hear a Democrat talk like

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Speaker 1: this today, But back then there was no one, no group,

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Speaker 1: no political group that was stronger on the idea of

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Speaker 1: getting illegals out of the country. And she also said

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Speaker 1: in there that what ice. Yes, we had ICE back

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Speaker 1: in twenty ten, and they were working with what state

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Speaker 1: and local law enforcement. Great cooperation there, and we had

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Speaker 1: we had calmness on the streets. We didn't have all

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Speaker 1: this crazy crap that's going on now. What changed? What's

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Speaker 1: the difference? Something to think about for the rest of

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Speaker 1: your morning. After the news here at the top of

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Speaker 1: the hour, Andre Ewing will be here in studio and

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Speaker 1: we will be kicking around some local issues, so we

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Speaker 1: invite you to stay tuned for that. Dan Carroll in

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Speaker 1: for Brian Thomas on fifty five krc the talk station.

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Speaker 3: Today's top headlines coming up.

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Speaker 1: Fifty five KRCD Talk Station seven o five. I'm on

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Speaker 1: this Tuesday morning, Dan Carol, sitting for Brian Thomas, who

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Speaker 1: was getting a little getting a little R and R today,

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Speaker 1: so good for him and we we'll see what happens tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: In the meantime, we have my first time meeting brother

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Speaker 1: Andre Ewing, who has graced us with his presence in

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Speaker 1: studio this morning and Andre Ewing, Welcome to fifty five KRC.

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Speaker 1: It's good to meet you, sir.

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Speaker 5: Good to meet you.

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Speaker 16: Well everything everything is beautiful this morning.

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Speaker 1: You are bundled up, my friend. Yes, sir, you're free

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Speaker 1: to take that jacket and that if you if you feel.

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Speaker 16: I'm prepared this how this is how I work out

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Speaker 16: in the gym. I work out to be hot.

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Speaker 5: I'm not.

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Speaker 16: I'm not here to just show off the muscularity. I

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Speaker 16: need to be hot when I'm in the gym.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, it's uh, it's great to meet you.

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Speaker 1: Former Cincinnati Police.

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Speaker 5: Yes, sir.

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Speaker 1: How long on the job?

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Speaker 16: Close to thirty years? Just shotted thirty years, yes sir,

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Speaker 16: yes sir.

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Speaker 1: How hard is it to walk away?

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Speaker 5: Oh? It wasn't hard at all. It wasn't hard at

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Speaker 5: all for you, not at all.

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Speaker 16: I checked all the boxes, did exactly what I needed

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Speaker 16: to do, served to the best of my ability, and

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01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 16: just had an awesome time serving the community and doing

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01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 16: what was necessary. And it was time to finally just

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Speaker 16: move on to better things.

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Speaker 1: So thirty years on the job. What the things that

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01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:06,799
Speaker 1: you do now? You do a lot on social media,

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01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 1: you comment a lot on what is happening in and

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01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 1: around Cincinnati as it relates to police issues, safety issues.

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01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 1: What kind of perspective has that given you? What was

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Speaker 1: given me now that now that you were on the

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01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 1: inside and that now you're outside looking.

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Speaker 16: At I would give me a lot of perspective. And

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Speaker 16: I've tried, even in my lengthy career to what I say,

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01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 16: exercise my gifts to the command staffs, give them the

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Speaker 16: knowledge of interacting with communities, and it's really given me

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01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:46,639
Speaker 16: a true focus on what is happening today. And when

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01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 16: I was on here last time talking to Brian, I'm

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01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 16: just disappointed in a lot of the community activities and

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01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 16: involvement that the police is not being able to do

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01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 16: and implement at this pretty time.

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01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 5: And we always see that they're always late.

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01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 16: When I mean late is is we should have done this,

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01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 16: but we didn't do this. The police is not in

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01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 16: line with council. Council, UH is not in line with

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01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 16: the mayor. The mayor is not aligned with the chief.

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01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 16: The chief is not aligned with the city manager. And

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01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 16: why what I call it is one big hot mess.

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01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 1: It is it is a hot mess. And UH, I

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01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 1: don't know if you heard Chris Chris Smithman yesterday. But uh,

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01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 1: I I was trying to check myself after the most

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01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 1: recent election, and there was a there was a shooting

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01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 1: that happened. And this is not the one that was

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Speaker 1: in the West End where the eleven year old girl

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Speaker 1: was killed. This was one that happened, and and it

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01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 1: was it was just a day or two after the election,

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Speaker 1: and there and and and I said, you know what,

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01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 1: this is what the people of Cincinnati voted for. The

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01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 1: people of Cincinnati voted for a city council that does

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01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 1: not feel the need to address crime in a serious way.

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Speaker 1: We have a mayor who talks about it and says

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Speaker 1: he's got a plan for this, that and the other thing,

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Speaker 1: and then comes out on his inauguration day and says, hey,

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Speaker 1: we're going to have public we need public safety. We're

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01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 1: going to have to ask you to dig a little

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01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 1: bit deeper, caugh up a little bit more money. Well,

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01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:22,640
Speaker 1: I think we have a city manager who is in

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01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 1: over her head when it comes with dealing comes to

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01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,679
Speaker 1: dealing with serious issues like this. And so I asked

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01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 1: Chris smith and I said, am I off base here?

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01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 1: Suggesting that this is what the voters the small amount

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01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:40,719
Speaker 1: of voters who turned out in this last election cycle.

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01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 1: I said, is this what representative of what they voted

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01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 1: for to continue these kind of policies? And he said, yeah,

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01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 1: I'll ask you the same question. Is this what the

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01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:56,759
Speaker 1: majority of voters said? We're fine with the way things

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01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 1: are going at City Hall because everything that's going on

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01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 1: right now now was going on before. And I don't

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01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 1: see anything to indicate that there's going to be any

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01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 1: sort of meaningful change or this will be addressed in

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01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 1: a meaningful way.

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01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 16: Correct, to make it straight and simple, Yes, you get

1149
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 16: what you want. It looked like a duck. Quite like

1150
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 16: a duck. Walk like a duck. It's a duck. After

1151
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:22,759
Speaker 16: that was very clear, he said that he was gonna

1152
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:26,960
Speaker 16: raise taxes, whether it's through the public safety or whether

1153
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:30,639
Speaker 16: it's through housing. He told everybody he was gonna raise taxes.

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01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 16: So at this point, are you surprised? And my surprise,

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01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 16: absolutely not, because we've already seen the body of work.

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01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,760
Speaker 16: So to be honest with you, at this point, no

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01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 16: one should be shocked. No one should be surprised because

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01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 16: we've seen how the administration operates, and this is what

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01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 16: you get when you deal with this type of process,

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01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,559
Speaker 16: in this type of system, so I keep things straight

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01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 16: to the point, Brother Dan, I'm not surprised, and it's

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01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:00,600
Speaker 16: going to continue to get worse. The tax are going

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01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:03,680
Speaker 16: to get slammed, and this is going to be one

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01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 16: of the worst summers that is going to happen here

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01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 16: in Cincinnati. I've predicted it several times on my pages,

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01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 16: and everything I've predicted has come to pass. Dealing whether

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01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 16: it's city issues, whether it's being homicide, whether it's being

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01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 16: crime constantly going up within the community. It all has

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01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 16: been predicted and come to pass. Just like with the

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01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 16: issues that went on with Captain Denita Pettis, I predicted

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Speaker 16: she was going to get everything back, all back paying benefits,

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Speaker 16: and when she was terminated I immediately came out with

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01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 16: a post and told her to hold your hell up.

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Speaker 16: How Why? Because I knew the system, I knew how

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01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 16: vicious the system could be.

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Speaker 5: I knew she was a target, And here we are

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Speaker 5: today she is.

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Speaker 16: A one hundred percent winner and has been awarded everything back,

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Speaker 16: paying all benefits.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be honest. I did not follow the Thenita

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01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 1: Pettiest story all that closely when it was rolling out

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01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 1: in real time. But when I saw the statement that

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Speaker 1: Ken Kober put out on this a couple of days ago,

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Speaker 1: I read that and it just just it just smacked

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01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:21,640
Speaker 1: to me of that there was heavy handed political influence

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Speaker 1: in everything that surrounded her. Correct, correct, And that, to

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01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 1: my way of thinking, that is not what the Cincinnati

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01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 1: Police Department should be about. I think we had a

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Speaker 1: long history with the Cincinnati Police Department where they were

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Speaker 1: in a position to resist that sort of thing. I mean,

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01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 1: there are stories about Tom Striker when he was the

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Speaker 1: police chief. You know, he would have, you know, the

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01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 1: mayor or other political figures would walk into his office

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01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:53,600
Speaker 1: and say Chief, I need you to do this, that

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01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 1: and the other thing, and he would say, there's the door,

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01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:59,759
Speaker 1: get the hell out of my office. So I think

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Speaker 1: the ways that we have things set up now that

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Speaker 1: the chief doesn't have that same ability. And I say

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Speaker 1: resist because I'm not naive enough to believe that there's

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01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 1: never any political influence in the police department. But I

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01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 1: think it's gotten to such a point now to where

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01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 1: it's sort of part and parcel of the everyday activity

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01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 1: right right.

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Speaker 16: But I'm gonna ask you, brother Dan, what's the truth

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01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:27,600
Speaker 16: right now? What is actually the truth where everybody is

1206
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:31,679
Speaker 16: putting blame on everybody, when I've been very consistent. I've

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01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 16: actually said, from the mayor, from the city manager, from the.

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Speaker 5: Chief, get rid of all of them.

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01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 16: See, I'm not just gonna point the finger at one person,

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01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 16: because this is an entire body of work. And when

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01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 16: you have an entire body of work like this, no

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01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 16: one gets a pass from me, not one particular person.

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01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 16: And this is where we have to be honest and

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01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 16: real about the situations. And I have proof just looking

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01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:59,560
Speaker 16: at the report, even from the decision from the arbitrators

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01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 16: and attorney Kimberly Rotowski is clear and she said it

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01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 16: not in her twenty plus years has she ever seen

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01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 16: anything as egregious as this particular arbitration filing and what

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01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 16: the city did to captain Denita Pettis.

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01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:20,440
Speaker 1: So, and you know what, you you asked me, what

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01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 1: what is the truth right now? And we got we

1222
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 1: got a break coming up here. So I will tell

1223
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 1: you what. I what my perception of the truth. And

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01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 1: look what my perception of the truth is may not

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01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 1: be actually true, but I can I can I can read,

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01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 1: I can look, I can see what's going on, and

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01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 1: I know, I know the message that I think that

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01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 1: is being sent forth and it's it's it's not one

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01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 1: that that we should be proud of.

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Speaker 5: That's right. So that's right.

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01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'll expound that. We got to get to

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01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 1: a quick little break here and we will continue with

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01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 1: brother Andre Ewing on the other side of this, Dan

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Speaker 1: Carroll and for Brian Thomas on fifty five ARC. The

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01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 1: talk station Experience, Comfort and Reliability was zimmer HVAC for

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01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 1: over seventy five years. Immensure the talk station. It's all

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01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:11,440
Speaker 1: about being an individual.

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Speaker 5: Come on, let's go.

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01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Yes, sir, you know did

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01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 1: you hear christ Smitherman yesterday talking about his thoughts on

1241
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 1: MLK that he had an hour on with Brian Thomas yesterday?

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01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 1: It was that that was just a great hour of radio.

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01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 16: He is so passionate. Shout out to Christopher Smitherman.

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01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 5: He is amazing.

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01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 16: He's passionate, extremely intelligent, and the city passed up on

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01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 16: a very very educated and reasonable man. And I just

1247
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 16: want to give him a shout out. Awesome father, and

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01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:48,639
Speaker 16: awesome just mentor. And I appreciate him in every way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he loves the city. He loves Hamilton County. He

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01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 1: wants only the best for this city and it it

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01:19:55,640 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 1: pains him to see the path that that we are

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01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 1: taking as as a city right now. So you asked

1253
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:05,560
Speaker 1: me before, you know what, what's the truth? Well, the

1254
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 1: truth as I see it, is that the message that

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01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 1: is going out right now is that crime pays in

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01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 1: the city of Cincinnati. When I see a settlement of

1257
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,640
Speaker 1: eight point one million dollars, that is going to be

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01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 1: a financial windfall for hundreds of individuals who came into

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01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 1: our city, that that broke curfew, that damaged property. There

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Speaker 1: was a Cincinnati police officer who, thank god he had

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01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,679
Speaker 1: a kevlar helmet on, that was hit with a bullet.

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Speaker 1: The notion that because you had and I remember saying

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01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 1: this at the time back in twenty twenty, and I

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01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 1: would go to my TV every night. My wife would say,

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01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 1: what what do you want to watch on TV? I'd say, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna watch the riots tonight. See. You know,

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01:20:56,680 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 1: is it Philadelphia, is it Chicago? Is it some other

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01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:04,720
Speaker 1: city that has cars overturned and things are burning and

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Speaker 1: all the rest of it. You know, we was going

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Speaker 1: on in Minneapolis, and so he had all these riots

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01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 1: that were spreading all across the country, all these different cities, right,

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Speaker 1: and then it tried to come to Cincinnati, and I said,

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01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 1: Cincinnati police did the right They nipped this in the butt.

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Speaker 1: We had some sort we had what there was like

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Speaker 1: forty different businesses had their windows broken out, damage, all

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Speaker 1: kinds of just terrible things that was going on, and

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01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:33,680
Speaker 1: Cincinnati police nipped it in the butt and did what

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01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:36,879
Speaker 1: they could. Then John Cranley comes out, the mayor, and says, Purfew,

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Speaker 1: We're not tolerating this. We're going to shut it down.

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Speaker 1: People go out the next night, they get arrested, hundreds

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01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 1: of people. The only place they can go is to

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01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 1: the Hamilton County Justice Center. Takes a while to get

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Speaker 1: them all into the justice center. And so based on

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01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 1: that that they were you know, they had to sit

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01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 1: outside for a little while, or maybe they didn't get

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01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:03,640
Speaker 1: a bottle of water, you know, maybe they didn't have

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Speaker 1: their medication with it. So they sue and then we

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Speaker 1: turn around and say we're going to pay these people

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Speaker 1: eight point one million dollars. Then Ken Kober comes out

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01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:15,880
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago and says he's caught wind

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Speaker 1: of that there could possibly be a settlement in the

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Speaker 1: works for the Hinton family. A terrible tragedy with that

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Speaker 1: young man who decided to boost some cars with some

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Speaker 1: buddies of his. They get caught by police, they run,

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Speaker 1: he's got a gun, turns toward police, and all those

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Speaker 1: sort of facts get blurred that they're talking about a

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Speaker 1: settlement with him. Then we have the settlement that gets

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Speaker 1: announced with the other young man whose name escapes me

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Speaker 1: at the moment, who also pointed a gun at police.

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Speaker 1: Was there some question there, possibly, but the police were cleared.

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01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:55,720
Speaker 1: We don't stand behind them. So the message that is

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01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:59,560
Speaker 1: going out is that crime pays in the city of Cincinnati.

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01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:04,719
Speaker 1: And I think those who are of such a mind

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01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 1: look at that, see what's happening, and the results are

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01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:10,639
Speaker 1: what they are.

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Speaker 16: Well, the bottom line, Dan, is that there's no trust

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01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:20,559
Speaker 16: in this city, zero trust, and crime does pay. Excuse me,

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01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 16: And that's obvious from what we see on a daily basis,

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01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 16: And there's no real structure of what we see. And

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Speaker 16: that's why I said that the city is broken. The

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01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 16: structure is broken, and something needs to pull back this

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01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 16: entire process. And of course, since we have four more

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01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 16: years of administration and council, we're going to get the

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Speaker 16: exact same results. There's something that's going on with the

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01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:49,520
Speaker 16: city manager writing all these checks, feeling very very passionate

1316
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:57,640
Speaker 16: about giving individuals large sums of money regardless of the

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01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 16: facts or even how the information comes out. And this

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01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 16: is where we have to really look at what is

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01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 16: going on with our city leaders that none of them

1320
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:10,719
Speaker 16: are on the same page. And when you lose trust,

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01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 16: you lose the community. When you lose the community, you

1322
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 16: are in trouble. And this is a clear fact of

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01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 16: how these situations go. But even taken further when we

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01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 16: talk about, say the collaborative agreement that everybody brings up.

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01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 16: But what's interesting, within like a twenty four to fourty

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01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 16: eight hour period, they have to show the family the

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01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 16: video tape of what the shooting and what has occurred immediately. Now,

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01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 16: really that is backfired because emotionally, you bring in a

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01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 16: father and that's what they're claiming now that he witnessed

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01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 16: his son being a shot and killed writing on a video.

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01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:52,720
Speaker 16: But now there was no structure in place, and they

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01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 16: just allow him to leave without proper council, proper care,

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01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 16: proper prep to show you what's going on. And he

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01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 16: leaves this situation and then goes kills Officer Henderson. So

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Speaker 16: now they need to re evaluate the entire collaborative agreement.

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01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:15,879
Speaker 16: And what does it look like for someone to review

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01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 16: your child or your loved one being murdered. Yeah, that

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01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 16: would shock anybody. I don't care who you are. That

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01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 16: will shock anybody. But now what do we do when

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01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 16: we just allow a system to just tell you and

1341
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 16: demand I never like the situation of just releasing information

1342
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:35,719
Speaker 16: immediately within like twenty four hours, because there's so much

1343
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 16: deeptail that needs to be expressed. And so what do

1344
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 16: you get. You get emotion versus reason. And when you

1345
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 16: deal with that, brother Dan, you get a hot mess

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01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 16: once again is what you have in this city. But

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01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 16: you know, I know that. With all that being said,

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01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 16: I wanted to get on the situation, which you know

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01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 16: Captain Pettis and how she scored super super high on

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Speaker 16: all these exams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've brought the receipts right here.

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01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 16: I brought the receipts second highest lieutenant score when she

1353
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 16: was twenty fourteen to twenty fifteen, second highest captain score.

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01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:12,520
Speaker 16: So there was no DEI for Captain Pettis.

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Speaker 5: This woman is brilliant.

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Speaker 16: She has skills. I mean, her resume is incredible. She

1357
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:22,320
Speaker 16: was she served in the Record's commander. She was a

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Speaker 16: Special Service Section Commander, Guns Crime Tour Task Force Commander,

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01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:32,680
Speaker 16: Planning Section Commander, Civil Disturbance Response Team Commander, and a

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01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:38,679
Speaker 16: subject matter specialist when it comes to promotional exams this woman.

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Speaker 1: That was something yeah, and that was something you mentioned

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Speaker 1: to me when you walked in this morning, that she

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01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 1: is not a DEI Higher And I have not seen

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Speaker 1: individuals who are criticizing her in that sort of way.

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Speaker 1: But you're telling me that there's a I guess there's

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01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 1: a faction out there that is suggesting that Captain Pettis

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Speaker 1: was a DEI Higher.

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Speaker 16: As Absolutely on the social media pages that that we

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01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 16: always see that they're saying because she's a black woman,

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Speaker 16: she must have just didn't earn it. But I'm here

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01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 16: to sit back and say it's clear that it's obvious

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Speaker 16: that she earned it. And obviously when the arbitrators, three

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01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:16,439
Speaker 16: of them, mind you.

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Speaker 1: And don't know what the hell they're talking about.

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Speaker 16: Absolutely, yes, sir, And that's why I said that Chief

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01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:26,600
Speaker 16: Thiji doesn't get a pass. We can't just put this

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Speaker 16: on the city manager, because even in the Chief Thiji's

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01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 16: own writing, she said, I'm disapproving Chief McKinley's recommendation he's

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01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:41,720
Speaker 16: a fire chief and recommending Captain Pettis be dismissed from

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Speaker 16: the CPD.

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Speaker 5: So don't put it on Cheryl Long.

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01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:47,639
Speaker 16: Sure a Long messed up by just taking a piece

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01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:50,719
Speaker 16: of paper and just signing it. You you don't sign

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01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:56,799
Speaker 16: anything or concur with anything until you read the fine print.

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01:27:57,040 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 16: And this is where counsel and everyone else instead of

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01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 16: making all these payoffs, even with Michael Washington, I give

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01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:06,639
Speaker 16: him a shout out. People better start sitting back and

1388
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 16: reevaluating the whole charter on the power of the city

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01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 16: manager because she is making a wreck of this entire city.

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Speaker 16: And how much money do the taxpayers have?

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Speaker 1: Well, it seems that and we got to run. But

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01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 1: it seems to me that her way of doing business

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01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 1: is to reach into the treasury and write write a

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01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 1: check in order to address an issue.

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Speaker 5: And I will never ever solve anything.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Pastor, you're also a pastor, leave us with before

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Speaker 1: we let you go, leave us with a good word

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01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:43,760
Speaker 1: that we can we can think about during the course

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Speaker 1: of the day.

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Speaker 16: What a good word is out of the abundance of

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01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 16: the heart. The mouth speaks and you have to be

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01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:52,680
Speaker 16: careful what is in your heart. And so when you

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01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:57,240
Speaker 16: see somebody today, don't judge them. Go into them, look

1404
01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:59,720
Speaker 16: them in an eye, tell them you love them, tell

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01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 16: them dah bless them. And won't you actually pray with them,

1406
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 16: talk with them just for a moment. You might be

1407
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 16: surprised what you both.

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01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:08,639
Speaker 5: Have in common.

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Speaker 1: Andre Ewing, great to meet you, my friend. Likewise, I

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01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:13,599
Speaker 1: hope you get a chance to do this again.

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01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 5: Yes, sir, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Dan Carolyn for Brian Thomas on fifty five KRC de

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01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:25,439
Speaker 1: Talk Station Football postseason lip fifty five KRC The Talk Station,

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01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:28,679
Speaker 1: Dan Carolyn for Brian Thomas, want to thank brother Andrea

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01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:30,760
Speaker 1: Ewing for being here in studio. First time I had

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01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 1: a chance to meet him, so that was a great

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Speaker 1: conversation and also looking forward to speaking with our next guest.

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Speaker 1: Tom Zelatowski runs the website we the People Convention dot

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01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 1: org and Tom, it's great to have you on fifty

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01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 1: five KRC this morning. How are you, Good morning.

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Speaker 17: Dan, glad to be with you, Thanks for having me on.

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01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 1: Thank you for being here. You know I told this

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01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 1: story last week on one of my shows on seven

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01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 1: hundred and I was saying that in the news business

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01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 1: here locally, he used to say that every national story

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01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 1: has a way of touching Cincinnati. And so I see

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01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:12,799
Speaker 1: this story about Jim O'Neil, Deputy Secretary and the Apartment

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01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:18,839
Speaker 1: of Human Services came out and he talked about Abukar Osmon,

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01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:22,640
Speaker 1: who was Somalia's permanent representative to the United States, to

1430
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 1: the United Nations and the UN Security Council, and records

1431
01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:29,520
Speaker 1: show that he has ties to Ohio and a Cincinnati

1432
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 1: company that had to pay ninety thousand dollars in restitution

1433
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:38,240
Speaker 1: for medicaid fraud. So it is absolutely amazing, and I think,

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01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:42,320
Speaker 1: you know, there are calls now by some state lawmakers

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01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:48,719
Speaker 1: who are talking about investigating some of the daycares and

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01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 1: other fraudulent situations that may have appeared in and around

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01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 1: the Columbus area. So when we look at this story

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01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:59,080
Speaker 1: about what's going on in Minnesota, I think a lot

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01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 1: of us need to be aware that it's not just

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01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:05,200
Speaker 1: happening in Minnesota, but really it sort of has its

1441
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:08,360
Speaker 1: fingers and tentacles touching a lot of us right here

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01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:08,919
Speaker 1: in Ohio.

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01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:13,640
Speaker 17: Well, you know, people just forget how long this has

1444
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:17,400
Speaker 17: been going on, the Somali problem in Ohio, Dan, you know,

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01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:20,720
Speaker 17: we were the Tea Party movement was screaming about this

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01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:23,519
Speaker 17: when they first arrived, you know, fifteen years ago or

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01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:27,680
Speaker 17: whatever it was. Because what's amazing about this story is

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01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:31,240
Speaker 17: that it's like Springfield with the Haitians, right, you know,

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01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:34,760
Speaker 17: where over night these people just show up in your

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01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:36,400
Speaker 17: community with no plan.

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01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:36,880
Speaker 1: Right.

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01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 17: It's not like, hey, we're going to bring ten thousand

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01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:42,639
Speaker 17: people to your town, and here's federal money for housing

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01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 17: and for food and for medical and to help with

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01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:48,160
Speaker 17: you know, interpreters at your schools. Oh no, no, you know,

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01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:51,559
Speaker 17: Catholic charities just brings them in because they get billions

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01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:55,439
Speaker 17: of dollars to help, you know, break our immigration laws,

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01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:57,800
Speaker 17: and they just bring them in and drop them off. Well,

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01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:00,880
Speaker 17: when they did that outside of Columbus, the sheriff was

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01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:03,479
Speaker 17: going Bizerko because they were having the same problem they

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01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:06,679
Speaker 17: had in Springfield. There were car accidents because they were driving.

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01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:09,160
Speaker 17: They didn't know how to drive our cars, they didn't

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01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 17: know our rules, they couldn't speak English. The schools were

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01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 17: a disaster because they were just inundated with all these

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01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:19,160
Speaker 17: children that didn't speak English, and nobody would do anything

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01:32:19,160 --> 01:32:22,560
Speaker 17: about it. We brought it to the attention of Chasik,

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01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:25,320
Speaker 17: you know, and then and then the wine, and look

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01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:27,679
Speaker 17: at what the wine did with Springfield. He just kind

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01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 17: of like said, there's plenty to see here, Dan, there's

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01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:33,400
Speaker 17: plenty to see and it ain't good.

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Speaker 1: Well, why do you think that is? Why do you

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01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:38,120
Speaker 1: think there's at least on the part of the governor

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01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:42,040
Speaker 1: that there's really no appetite to investigate this or get

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01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:45,479
Speaker 1: to the bottom of it, or even try and separate

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01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 1: in a meaningful way what is true and what is

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01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:51,719
Speaker 1: not true. It is It is amazing to me. Look,

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01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:55,519
Speaker 1: fraud is fraud. Ripping off the government or ripping off

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01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:59,680
Speaker 1: anyone is ripping people off. It doesn't matter where you

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01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:02,800
Speaker 1: come from. It doesn't matter what your heritage is. If

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Speaker 1: you're an American, I don't want you to do it.

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01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:06,280
Speaker 1: If you're an immigrant, I don't want you to do it.

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01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:08,720
Speaker 1: If you're an illegal alien, I don't want you to

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01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:12,519
Speaker 1: do it. But yet there's no appetite on the part

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01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:15,439
Speaker 1: of the governor and his staff, I guess to really

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01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:17,720
Speaker 1: get to the bottom of this. So now there's a

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Speaker 1: growing body of lawmakers in Columbus who want this looked into.

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01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 1: But as you said, I mean, you know this, this

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01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:25,960
Speaker 1: horse has been out of the barn for a long

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01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:26,599
Speaker 1: time already.

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Speaker 17: Well, so you know what do we as people do

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01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:33,680
Speaker 17: you know, as citizens? Because I just think that you

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01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:36,240
Speaker 17: know again and you were right as listen says you

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01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:39,639
Speaker 17: earlier in the podcast show here where you know this hold,

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01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:42,960
Speaker 17: the riots and the anti ice stuff is a distraction

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01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:46,880
Speaker 17: from the real issue, which is the fraud. What's interesting

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01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:49,800
Speaker 17: is that, you know, for all of us, you know,

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Speaker 17: what's going on up there with Ice doesn't really affect

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01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 17: I don't have ICE agents knocking down the doors of

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Speaker 17: my neighbor's house. I don't have some allays in my town.

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Speaker 17: But we all have our tax dollars there. And the

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Speaker 17: outrage among the American people about this stuff, I just

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Speaker 17: don't think the political class really understands how deep and

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Speaker 17: how serious it is. We are pissed, people are angry

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Speaker 17: because this isn't just Somali's It's just not in you know, Minneapolis,

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Speaker 17: it's here in Ohio, it's in Maine, it's in Washington state.

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Speaker 17: Boy boy, wait till we get into Los Angeles. And

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Speaker 17: New York. If you want to see what fraud is.

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Speaker 17: Our problem is what are our senators and congressmen doing

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Speaker 17: to stop it? And my position is not.

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Speaker 1: Nearly enough, not nearly enough, absolutely, So I want to

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Speaker 1: continue on with this topic and I want to sort

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Speaker 1: of pivot into how this is going to relate to

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Speaker 1: evak Ramaswami and what he's saying about these issues. But

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Speaker 1: we got to get to a quick break right now.

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Speaker 1: Tom z Allatowski, stay right there. Will continue on on

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Speaker 1: fifty five KRC, the Talk Station.

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Speaker 5: This is doctor Jesse Mills, host of the Mailroom podcast.

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Speaker 1: KARC the talk station fifty five KRC, the Talk Station

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Speaker 1: seven on this Tuesday morning, continuing our conversation with Tom Zawatowski.

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Speaker 1: We the People Convention dot Org and Tom, so, we've

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Speaker 1: got a big governor's race coming up in the in

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Speaker 1: the fall, and I was talking to Alex trianta Filou

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Speaker 1: yesterday and he was talking about the campaign that the

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Speaker 1: viak Ramaswami is running. So far, so good, it looks like,

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Speaker 1: but I'm also a little bit concerned that h that

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Speaker 1: I guess the message that he's got could get could

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Speaker 1: get watered down or overrun and somehow, I hope this

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Speaker 1: doesn't happen, that Amy Acton could jump up and surprise

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Speaker 1: a lot of people come this fall. How how you're

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Speaker 1: sizing up that race so far, Well.

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Speaker 17: You know, I'm I'm very confident, uh, you know, with

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Speaker 17: you know what's going on as far as you know,

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Speaker 17: our election here in Ohio. I think, Dan, the biggest

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01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:15,880
Speaker 17: problem for us is to get our voters to turn

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Speaker 17: out without Trump on the ballot. I think that's really

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Speaker 17: the issue. And uh, you know, the Bank was on

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Speaker 17: last night on Jesse Waters Show addressing you know, the

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Speaker 17: situation Minneapolis, and and boy, you know, he's just so articulate,

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01:36:30,439 --> 01:36:35,120
Speaker 17: and he's so really just clear on his positions. You know, people,

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Speaker 17: you know, people ask me, like, you know, we're the

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Speaker 17: tea party I you represent you know, the grassroots people

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Speaker 17: here in Ohio have for sixteen years, and they say, well,

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Speaker 17: what do we want most? We want to restore equal

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Speaker 17: justice under the law. We want to restore the rule

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Speaker 17: of law. And but they talked about that when he

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01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 17: said that, you know, we're not going to let Ohio

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Speaker 17: become Minneapo Minnesota. We're going to you know, work with

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Speaker 17: the federal government. We're going to worst federal law. Even

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01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:03,800
Speaker 17: though you know, the state doesn't enforce it. They do

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Speaker 17: work with ICE and the FBI and the DOJ and

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01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:09,559
Speaker 17: HHS and all those guys. And it was good to

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01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:11,880
Speaker 17: see him say that. But it was great you had

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01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:14,519
Speaker 17: Alex on. I love Alex you know, he's a really

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01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:18,040
Speaker 17: good leader of the Republican Party. But if you don't mind,

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01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:21,320
Speaker 17: I want to talk a little bit about some skull

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01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:24,439
Speaker 17: drudgery that's going on with the Republicans in Ohio that

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01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:27,599
Speaker 17: everyone in the state should understand. I always say that

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01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:31,280
Speaker 17: the Columbus cartel, you know, is just as bad as

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01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:34,320
Speaker 17: the deep state in Washington. And it's and here's a

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Speaker 17: perfect example, and involved Cincinnati, and it involves the whole state.

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Speaker 17: You know that we wanted to redistrict because Ohio had

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Speaker 17: the potential to pick up three seats. We could have

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Speaker 17: made Cincinnati more competitive than the first district. We could

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Speaker 17: have made Akron the thirteenth district, which was lost by

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Speaker 17: only two percent two years ago, we could have won

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Speaker 17: that House seat, and then the ninth district up in Toledo,

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Speaker 17: where seventy nine year old Marcy Captor has been hanging

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Speaker 17: on forever. We were going to redistrict that. So what happened, Well,

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Speaker 17: instead of redistricting to win all three seats, they ended

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Speaker 17: up redistricting the Toledo district to be like a plus

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Speaker 17: ten district, like you could win it with a toaster, okay.

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Speaker 17: And they didn't help the first and they didn't help

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Speaker 17: the thirteenth. And the whole reason for that, I was

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01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:28,280
Speaker 17: told was that Rob McCauley, our Senate President, was going

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01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:31,840
Speaker 17: to run in Toledo, and his Senate district was up there,

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01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:35,400
Speaker 17: and he expanded the district to include him. Well, then,

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01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:39,280
Speaker 17: as you guys know, Rob McCauley ended up running with

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Speaker 17: the bike as his lieutenant governor. And so we're like, okay,

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01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:47,200
Speaker 17: we're really mad because President Trump needs as many House

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Speaker 17: seats as we can get and they didn't do the

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Speaker 17: resisting right. Well, what happens in the ninth district. Just

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01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:57,840
Speaker 17: this week, all of a sudden, this woman shows up.

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Speaker 17: Her name is Madison, she had sh Aha n She's

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Speaker 17: twenty eight years old. She's never run for any position ever.

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Speaker 17: She was working at ice with Christy Nome for the

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Speaker 17: last ten months, and all of a sudden she shows

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Speaker 17: up to run for Congress in the ninth district and

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01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:20,840
Speaker 17: you're like, wait a minute. We got a guy named

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Speaker 17: Derek Merin who only lost by two percentage points last time,

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Speaker 17: who's leading in the polls. Why do we need this

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01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:31,400
Speaker 17: new person? And then man, she shows up on Laura

1592
01:39:31,479 --> 01:39:36,040
Speaker 17: Trump's TV show on Saturday night, saam out of nowhere,

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01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:40,000
Speaker 17: down eight year old person shows up. And what I

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01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:43,760
Speaker 17: want your listeners to understand is this is the problem

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01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:47,880
Speaker 17: with politics, and it's all about the power and money.

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Speaker 17: There's a political operative in Ohio named Bob Paducciic. He

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01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:56,040
Speaker 17: used to represent Rob Portman, he got involved with with

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01:39:56,200 --> 01:40:00,000
Speaker 17: Trump and things, and this is all about him getting

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Speaker 17: a payday. This is all about We're going to bring

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Speaker 17: in this unknown person with millions of dollars and Bob

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Speaker 17: Padujik's gonna run her campaign and you know what, He's

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01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:14,800
Speaker 17: probably gonna get Donald Trump endorse this person, and the

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01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:17,280
Speaker 17: Ohio voters are not going to have a choice for

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01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:20,640
Speaker 17: who they want in the in the ninth district. And

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01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:24,639
Speaker 17: this is what's wrong with our whole system because money

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01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:29,240
Speaker 17: picks our candidates, not the people. And that's happening right

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01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:32,400
Speaker 17: here in Ohio and it's just a tragedy. We should have.

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01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:35,599
Speaker 17: We should flip three seats here and now we're gonna

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Speaker 17: be lucky if we put this one with a twenty

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Speaker 17: eight year old running well.

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Speaker 1: Paducchick's a brilliant guy, so I have no doubt that

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Speaker 1: he can pull off just about whatever it is he

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Speaker 1: wants to pull off. But it's it's selfish it, I mean,

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Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. This is not to my way

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01:40:56,200 --> 01:41:00,000
Speaker 1: of thinking. This is not what conservatives or are Republicans

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01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:03,559
Speaker 1: ought to be about. You know, it ought to be

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01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:07,280
Speaker 1: about doing the right thing. And when you're you're running operation,

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Speaker 1: the way you're describing to me certainly doesn't sound like

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01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:14,519
Speaker 1: it's the right thing. Well, so, and this is what

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Speaker 1: So I want to pivot back to the Veke now,

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01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:19,000
Speaker 1: because you know there's people who are saying, oh geez,

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Speaker 1: you know Rob McCauley's now is lieutenant governor.

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Speaker 17: So the Veke has been captured by the Columbus cartel, right.

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Speaker 1: I hope that I can assure you.

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Speaker 17: I can assure you guys, that is not the case.

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01:41:29,439 --> 01:41:32,599
Speaker 17: The Veke is a change agent as much as Donald

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01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:36,200
Speaker 17: Trump was. The cartel is scared to death of them,

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01:41:36,400 --> 01:41:39,040
Speaker 17: and that's why you're seeing these hit pieces coming out

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01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:42,320
Speaker 17: where they're trying to promote amy acting. And and this

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Speaker 17: is the John Kasic people, the you know, the Lex

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01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 17: Wexner people, you know, they're behind this. Don Price guy

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Speaker 17: is the one behind all these hit pieces about the Veke,

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01:41:53,000 --> 01:41:55,400
Speaker 17: you know, pulling up things like he you know, he's

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Speaker 17: part of a an investigation in Georgia for an illegal

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01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:04,439
Speaker 17: takeover some company and stuff. It's gonna get crazy because

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Speaker 17: the cartel your listeners write this down. Republicans in Ohio

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01:42:09,680 --> 01:42:13,320
Speaker 17: would always rather have a Democrat win than a Republican.

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01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:17,880
Speaker 17: They can't control. They can't control the Bank Ramaswami because

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01:42:18,040 --> 01:42:21,280
Speaker 17: like Trump, he doesn't need them. He can self fund

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01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:24,160
Speaker 17: and he's going to do things they don't want. And

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01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:27,160
Speaker 17: that's why you're sending these efforts to undermine him. It's

1642
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:29,720
Speaker 17: not going to work the bank. It's going to be

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01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:33,439
Speaker 17: our next governor. You're gonna from real good changes in Ohio.

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Speaker 1: You can't, can't, John Kasik, just go back to CNN

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01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:42,519
Speaker 1: or MSNBC and please leave uss alone Ohio. You know,

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01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:44,400
Speaker 1: at least money shows up on one of those shows

1647
01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:46,559
Speaker 1: you got. You have the ability to turn the sound

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01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:49,360
Speaker 1: down or turn it off. Tom stay right there, we gotta,

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01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:51,599
Speaker 1: we gotta work in a quick break on fifty five

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Speaker 1: KRCV Talk Station.

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Speaker 5: Are you tired of losing money in the stock mark

1652
01:42:55,320 --> 01:42:56,160
Speaker 5: and not winning enough?

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01:42:56,520 --> 01:43:06,559
Speaker 1: From fifty five krc the Talk Station, Joe Strecker rolling

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01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:10,080
Speaker 1: out a little homage to all the Hoosier fans out there.

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01:43:11,439 --> 01:43:15,760
Speaker 1: So congratulations to the Hoosiers winning the national championship. Great game.

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Speaker 1: Last night I watched Bits and Pieces. I was trying

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01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:22,320
Speaker 1: to fall asleep and watch the show. But wrapping things

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Speaker 1: up here with Tom z Awatowski, we the People Convention

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01:43:26,640 --> 01:43:29,479
Speaker 1: Dot Org and and Tom let me be as we

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01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:31,240
Speaker 1: let you go, let me I want to get your

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01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:35,040
Speaker 1: thought on this that there is a growing, some growing

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01:43:35,080 --> 01:43:41,439
Speaker 1: discontent amongst Republicans, including myself, that we have not have

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01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:45,599
Speaker 1: made any progress. Okay, we passed a big, beautiful bill. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's all fine and dandy, no tax on tips, no

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01:43:48,040 --> 01:43:51,360
Speaker 1: tax on overtime. But as it relates to voter fraud,

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01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:54,559
Speaker 1: as it relates to doge cuts, as it relates to

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Speaker 1: certain individuals being prosecuted that we thought would be prosecuted

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Speaker 1: for their misdeeds, none of that has happened. And so

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Speaker 1: the longer that that languishes and those things don't don't

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01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:11,559
Speaker 1: get done. To my way of thinking, that does not

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Speaker 1: accrue to the benefit of Donald Trump and does not

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Speaker 1: accrue to the benefit of Republicans who who are currently

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Speaker 1: in power in DC.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, Dan, there's a lot of there's a lot of concern.

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Speaker 17: I have to tell you that I spent yesterday all

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01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:33,880
Speaker 17: day talking to leaders from around the country, around the state,

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01:44:34,320 --> 01:44:38,360
Speaker 17: trying to keep them more positive because they're really they

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01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:42,439
Speaker 17: don't understand why these things aren't happening. I mean, what

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01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:45,240
Speaker 17: more do you need to invoke the Insurrection Act than

1680
01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:48,360
Speaker 17: what's going on in Minneapolis, from you know, breaking into

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01:44:48,479 --> 01:44:51,600
Speaker 17: our ice vehicles and stealing weapons, you know, to the

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Speaker 17: emails that came out saying that the City of Minneapolis

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Speaker 17: employees were actually aiding and embedding the anti American, anti

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Speaker 17: Ice Marxists to track and hamper ICE agents. We're tired

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01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:08,880
Speaker 17: of it. We want to see arrest, we want to

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01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:12,120
Speaker 17: see this stop. We want the rule of law reestablished,

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01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:16,080
Speaker 17: and we're not seeing it. And you know, I think

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01:45:16,120 --> 01:45:18,720
Speaker 17: that our patience is wearing thin. And then when you

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Speaker 17: get to the Congress, remember and Trump's first term, the

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Speaker 17: only thing they passed in four years. Was the tax

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Speaker 17: reform in twenty seventeen. Then Paul Ryan who's the House Speaker,

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Speaker 17: and mcconnoey and those guys that said it, they sandbag

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01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:38,559
Speaker 17: Trump for the rest of his time. We can't let

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01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:42,160
Speaker 17: that happen again. And so now they're talking about another

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01:45:42,400 --> 01:45:46,960
Speaker 17: budget reconciliation type bill and we're talking about the say back, right, Dan,

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Speaker 17: I mean, wouldn't that be a single important thing to

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01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:53,360
Speaker 17: get passed so that we can stop the cheating this November?

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01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:57,080
Speaker 17: But we haven't seen anything. And I'm asking your listeners,

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01:45:57,120 --> 01:45:59,880
Speaker 17: I'm asking people who are you know following this show,

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01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:03,400
Speaker 17: get on the phone this week, call your center, call

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01:46:03,439 --> 01:46:06,240
Speaker 17: your House member, and say, don't you do this again.

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01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:12,000
Speaker 17: We want action. You've got to implement Trump's agenda in legislation.

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01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:16,799
Speaker 17: It can't just be executive orders. We've lived that before.

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01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:18,599
Speaker 17: We never want to live that again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, legislation, And I mean that's the thing you go

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Speaker 1: out this is this is the agenda, not just Trump,

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01:46:27,800 --> 01:46:30,559
Speaker 1: but the agenda that he was talking about that people

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Speaker 1: voted for. And if you're not going to pass the agenda,

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01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:35,719
Speaker 1: people are going to say, well, why do why should

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Speaker 1: I even bother to vote for you guys, you're gonna

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01:46:38,439 --> 01:46:41,720
Speaker 1: sit up there and do and literally do nothing. I

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01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:43,800
Speaker 1: mean it's on one hand, it's easy to say, look,

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Speaker 1: Trump accomplished a lot this first year in office. Here

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01:46:47,439 --> 01:46:50,240
Speaker 1: in the second term, but there's no need to stop

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01:46:50,280 --> 01:46:52,680
Speaker 1: there because you know what, if the shoe was on

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01:46:52,720 --> 01:46:55,320
Speaker 1: the other foot, do you think the Democrats will be taking,

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01:46:55,680 --> 01:46:57,479
Speaker 1: you know, easing up on the gas a little bit?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean again, what will they do? You know

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01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:03,280
Speaker 17: what they're gonna do.

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Speaker 18: They get back.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely right.

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Speaker 17: Let's get rid of the fellow buster. Let's start passing

1723
01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:15,200
Speaker 17: this stuff, and let's walk down the border forever. Let's

1724
01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:18,000
Speaker 17: you know, get rid of you know, the illegal immigration.

1725
01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:22,400
Speaker 17: Let's uh, you know, let's get the ballot process fixed

1726
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:25,880
Speaker 17: because we know they're cheating and and and then how

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01:47:25,880 --> 01:47:29,080
Speaker 17: about cutting some of the budgets because it's a bunch

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01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:31,200
Speaker 17: of it is fraud. How about that.

1729
01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:36,559
Speaker 1: Six hundred billion in fraud every single year. And it's

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Speaker 1: time to start playing some hardball on that on the

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Speaker 1: national level. And here in Ohio, Tom, great talking to

1732
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Speaker 1: you this morning. We got to run, but keep up

1733
01:47:44,600 --> 01:47:46,479
Speaker 1: the great work and all the best to you, and

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01:47:47,120 --> 01:47:48,600
Speaker 1: I'll look forward to the next time we get a

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Speaker 1: chance to talk again.

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Speaker 17: Thanks Dan, thanks for setting our friend Brian.

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Speaker 1: I hope it gets better, absolutely absolutely, Tom, thank you

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Speaker 1: very much for that station, fifty five KRC, the talk

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Speaker 1: station eight o six on this Tuesday morning. Good morning,

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01:48:19,680 --> 01:48:21,400
Speaker 1: glad to be here, Glad you are here as well.

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01:48:21,439 --> 01:48:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm Dan Carroll in for Brian Thomas, who was taking

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Speaker 1: taking a little breather today, so I'm always glad to

1743
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:30,760
Speaker 1: be here. Joe Strecker is running the big board in

1744
01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:34,080
Speaker 1: the fifty five KRC Command Center. Always glad to have

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01:48:34,160 --> 01:48:36,680
Speaker 1: Joe Strecker there, and uh Man. Some great guests in

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01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:39,599
Speaker 1: the past hour, and we continue with some great guests.

1747
01:48:39,640 --> 01:48:41,559
Speaker 1: And one of the reasons I love doing this show

1748
01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:44,719
Speaker 1: is because Joe's got a great connection with the folks

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01:48:44,720 --> 01:48:48,040
Speaker 1: over at Breitbart News and I always get to talk

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01:48:48,080 --> 01:48:52,559
Speaker 1: with great, interesting individuals from Breitbart, and today it is

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Speaker 1: Bradley J. Who is the deputy political politics editor at Breitbart,

1752
01:48:58,000 --> 01:49:00,240
Speaker 1: and Bradley J. Happy new year to you, and it's

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Speaker 1: great to have you on fifty five KRC.

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Speaker 15: Happy new year, Dan, great to join you well, Thank.

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01:49:05,920 --> 01:49:09,320
Speaker 1: You so much for being here. Peter Sweitzer is out

1756
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:12,080
Speaker 1: with another new book. I mean, first of all, Schweitzer

1757
01:49:12,160 --> 01:49:15,720
Speaker 1: is amazing. He I don't know where he finds the

1758
01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:18,720
Speaker 1: time to write so many books. But this one is

1759
01:49:18,720 --> 01:49:23,320
Speaker 1: called The Invisible Coup. How America elites and foreign powers

1760
01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:27,120
Speaker 1: use immigration as a weapon, and they're using it as

1761
01:49:27,120 --> 01:49:32,280
Speaker 1: a weapon against the United States. And once again we

1762
01:49:32,360 --> 01:49:36,559
Speaker 1: find Peter Schweitzer sounding the alarm, and this time it's

1763
01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:42,840
Speaker 1: about he's talking about a million Chinese who have US

1764
01:49:42,920 --> 01:49:46,720
Speaker 1: citizenship in this country going to the polls in the

1765
01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:49,479
Speaker 1: year twenty thirty. Give me a little breakdown on.

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Speaker 10: This, Yeah, I mean, this is it's really a truly

1767
01:49:55,360 --> 01:50:01,960
Speaker 10: remarkable book from Peter. We've all heard about birthright citizenship

1768
01:50:02,479 --> 01:50:07,880
Speaker 10: and how it has been abused. It takes essentially what

1769
01:50:07,920 --> 01:50:13,960
Speaker 10: this is is the fourteenth Amendment, which was passed partly

1770
01:50:14,040 --> 01:50:18,559
Speaker 10: to ensure that slaves are people who had.

1771
01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:21,559
Speaker 15: Been slaves and children of slaves that.

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01:50:21,680 --> 01:50:27,839
Speaker 10: They could fully enjoy citizenship from the thirteenth Amendment.

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01:50:28,479 --> 01:50:30,440
Speaker 15: So it's been abused.

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01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:36,839
Speaker 10: And the Chinese, the Chinese Communist Party, they are dynastic thinkers.

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Speaker 15: They don't think like we do. We think you two

1776
01:50:40,439 --> 01:50:41,120
Speaker 15: and four and.

1777
01:50:41,160 --> 01:50:45,080
Speaker 10: Six year election cycles that the Chinese think like fifty

1778
01:50:45,080 --> 01:50:45,360
Speaker 10: in one.

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Speaker 15: Hundred years down the road. What they're doing, and what

1780
01:50:49,120 --> 01:50:52,400
Speaker 15: Peter has found out through his research is that essentially,

1781
01:50:52,439 --> 01:50:52,840
Speaker 15: there are going.

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Speaker 10: To be more than one million Chinese with US citizenship

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01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:01,800
Speaker 10: who grew up in communist China but who will be

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01:51:01,880 --> 01:51:05,559
Speaker 10: able to vote in American elections, and by twenty thirty

1785
01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:06,519
Speaker 10: there might.

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01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:11,080
Speaker 15: Be one million of them or more who are voting

1787
01:51:11,680 --> 01:51:14,680
Speaker 15: through what's called birth tourism.

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Speaker 10: What they've done is all of these these Chinese elites,

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Speaker 10: and we're not just talking.

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Speaker 15: About you know, any Jimmy and Joe. We're talking about

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01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:25,040
Speaker 15: these Chinese elites.

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01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:33,439
Speaker 10: Who have had children, often with surrogates, have had children

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01:51:33,560 --> 01:51:39,120
Speaker 10: on American soil, who have become by virtue of birthright citizenship,

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01:51:39,240 --> 01:51:40,760
Speaker 10: which is not practiced.

1795
01:51:40,320 --> 01:51:42,719
Speaker 15: Around the world. The United States is a rarity here.

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01:51:43,120 --> 01:51:47,920
Speaker 10: But these children have been granted American citizen citizenship. Then

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Speaker 10: they've been shipped back over to China to get indoctrinated

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01:51:52,439 --> 01:51:56,920
Speaker 10: by the Chinese Communist Party, yet they retain American citizenship

1799
01:51:56,960 --> 01:51:59,120
Speaker 10: and they'll be able to vote in the twenty thirty election.

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01:52:00,200 --> 01:52:04,680
Speaker 10: Really really horrifying to think about, and it's astounding that

1801
01:52:04,720 --> 01:52:06,000
Speaker 10: Peter's uncovered.

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Speaker 1: With Yeah, and when you talk about all these individuals

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Speaker 1: who are going to come to the polls, So what's

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01:52:12,520 --> 01:52:16,320
Speaker 1: the likelihood that they'll be voting in whatever the interest

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01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:20,400
Speaker 1: of China is in twenty thirty compared to what the

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01:52:21,160 --> 01:52:24,479
Speaker 1: best interest of America is in twenty thirty.

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Speaker 15: And that's a great question, because look.

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Speaker 10: What, I'm not a Chinese Communist Party scholar, but I

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01:52:33,640 --> 01:52:37,839
Speaker 10: do understand that there is only one party in China,

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01:52:38,200 --> 01:52:40,519
Speaker 10: only one political party, and when you.

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Speaker 18: Go to the polls to vote, you vote who you're

1812
01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:48,280
Speaker 18: told to vote for. So my inclination is that, you

1813
01:52:48,320 --> 01:52:52,759
Speaker 18: know what, all of these kids who have been raised

1814
01:52:52,840 --> 01:52:56,840
Speaker 18: up indoctrinated in the Chinese Communist Party teachings, they're going

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01:52:56,920 --> 01:52:59,920
Speaker 18: to cast about for exactly who they're told to cast

1816
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:00,920
Speaker 18: that ballot for.

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Speaker 10: And here here's the thing, Dan, all of all of

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Speaker 10: these people, I don't care if you're a Republican or

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Speaker 10: a Democrat.

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Speaker 15: You should be concerned.

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01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:15,240
Speaker 10: About foreign election in our in our own elections.

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01:53:15,320 --> 01:53:16,320
Speaker 15: This is a big deal.

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Speaker 10: And there's been there's been a lot of a pearl

1824
01:53:20,680 --> 01:53:28,000
Speaker 10: clutching unnecessarily, I think about false accusations of foreign for

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01:53:28,240 --> 01:53:30,920
Speaker 10: foreign electionary experience of the year. Well, look, here's the

1826
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:34,160
Speaker 10: thing Peter has uncovered it like this is coming down

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01:53:34,200 --> 01:53:34,599
Speaker 10: the pike.

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Speaker 15: This is an actual, real scheme.

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Speaker 10: And if you purport to worry about this, but you

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01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:42,960
Speaker 10: you are not concerned about this.

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01:53:43,240 --> 01:53:46,080
Speaker 15: You've been exposed as a fraud. Because this is a

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01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:47,240
Speaker 15: huge scandal.

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Speaker 10: It's a huge scheme, and every single American, regardless of

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01:53:52,080 --> 01:53:53,960
Speaker 10: political party, needs.

1835
01:53:53,720 --> 01:53:56,519
Speaker 15: To be clamoring to get to the phone to.

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01:53:56,560 --> 01:53:59,840
Speaker 10: Contact their elected official to say you've got to do something, to.

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Speaker 1: Say, you know, and you touched on this at the

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01:54:03,439 --> 01:54:05,960
Speaker 1: beginning of our conversation. It just has to deal with

1839
01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:09,639
Speaker 1: the fourteenth Amendment. And there's so many people who want

1840
01:54:09,680 --> 01:54:11,880
Speaker 1: to come out and try and make the case that

1841
01:54:12,200 --> 01:54:16,800
Speaker 1: the fourteenth Amendment confers birthright citizenship upon anyone who was

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01:54:16,880 --> 01:54:20,160
Speaker 1: born in the United States. And to me, this is

1843
01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:23,599
Speaker 1: one of the more frustrating things that has been going.

1844
01:54:23,640 --> 01:54:25,640
Speaker 1: There's a look, there's a lot of things I'm frustrated

1845
01:54:25,640 --> 01:54:29,839
Speaker 1: with right now when it comes to action on certain items.

1846
01:54:30,120 --> 01:54:33,320
Speaker 1: And when Donald Trump was elected in an office, he

1847
01:54:33,360 --> 01:54:35,480
Speaker 1: said he was going to come out and he is

1848
01:54:35,840 --> 01:54:40,360
Speaker 1: challenging this notion of birthright citizenship. And so many times

1849
01:54:40,440 --> 01:54:43,480
Speaker 1: what gets left out when this story gets reported on

1850
01:54:43,520 --> 01:54:46,600
Speaker 1: the news or when you've got pundits talking about it

1851
01:54:46,640 --> 01:54:49,840
Speaker 1: on TV, they like to stop and say, well, you

1852
01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:52,840
Speaker 1: know what, the Constitution is clear on this because it

1853
01:54:52,920 --> 01:54:56,760
Speaker 1: says all persons born and naturalized in the United States

1854
01:54:57,880 --> 01:55:01,360
Speaker 1: I get to become citizens. They leave out the part

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01:55:02,720 --> 01:55:06,560
Speaker 1: here's the text right here, all persons born are naturalized

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01:55:06,600 --> 01:55:12,120
Speaker 1: in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.

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01:55:12,600 --> 01:55:15,520
Speaker 1: They always leave that part out. And that is the

1858
01:55:15,640 --> 01:55:20,000
Speaker 1: key phrase in the fourteenth Amendment, that first sentence of

1859
01:55:20,040 --> 01:55:24,800
Speaker 1: the fourteenth Amendment, subject to the jurisdiction thereof. And so

1860
01:55:24,960 --> 01:55:27,920
Speaker 1: when you have individuals who come in and do the

1861
01:55:27,960 --> 01:55:31,520
Speaker 1: birth tourism that you talk about, they are not subject

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Speaker 1: to the jurisdiction of the United States of America. And

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01:55:35,040 --> 01:55:37,600
Speaker 1: so to my way of thinking, that does not confer

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01:55:38,080 --> 01:55:42,280
Speaker 1: automatic citizenship just because you happen to be born in

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Speaker 1: this country. And there is a well established president that

1866
01:55:46,280 --> 01:55:49,240
Speaker 1: backs up that notion. But when we have the debate

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01:55:49,280 --> 01:55:52,080
Speaker 1: on this, or at least it's carried out in public

1868
01:55:52,160 --> 01:55:55,480
Speaker 1: and in the media, it seems that that issue they're

1869
01:55:55,560 --> 01:56:00,640
Speaker 1: that particular element of the issue always seems convenient to

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01:56:00,680 --> 01:56:01,400
Speaker 1: get left out.

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Speaker 10: Then anytime the left says that something settled that that

1872
01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:11,320
Speaker 10: should send up a red flag. They say the law

1873
01:56:11,440 --> 01:56:14,520
Speaker 10: is settled in this or the science has settled.

1874
01:56:15,720 --> 01:56:17,080
Speaker 15: Look out. That's like when.

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01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:21,320
Speaker 10: People call a law or a bill common sense that

1876
01:56:21,480 --> 01:56:23,840
Speaker 10: always figgers a red flag. That's that to me, that's

1877
01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:26,320
Speaker 10: they're they're trying to tell you up, well, just trust

1878
01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:28,640
Speaker 10: us on this. You don't even have to think about it.

1879
01:56:29,280 --> 01:56:32,120
Speaker 10: But yeah, this looked at the fourteenth Amendment was passed

1880
01:56:32,480 --> 01:56:33,080
Speaker 10: to UH.

1881
01:56:33,080 --> 01:56:35,000
Speaker 15: I think it was UH is.

1882
01:56:35,320 --> 01:56:39,520
Speaker 10: To undo the dread Scott decision, which had to do

1883
01:56:39,560 --> 01:56:42,720
Speaker 10: with your runaway slaves with slaves go into a free state.

1884
01:56:43,200 --> 01:56:43,320
Speaker 4: Uh.

1885
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Speaker 15: That's where it talks about like the jurisdiction.

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01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:46,000
Speaker 2: And all that.

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01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:51,680
Speaker 10: It was not intended to just be a blanket golden

1888
01:56:51,720 --> 01:56:55,320
Speaker 10: ticket for either a Chinese mother who just swooped in

1889
01:56:55,520 --> 01:56:59,120
Speaker 10: flew into California real quick, or some Pacific.

1890
01:56:58,720 --> 01:57:02,920
Speaker 15: Island had baby then flew back. That's not what it's

1891
01:57:02,920 --> 01:57:03,440
Speaker 15: meant to do.

1892
01:57:03,880 --> 01:57:07,800
Speaker 10: It certainly wasn't meant to do as the Chinese Communist

1893
01:57:07,800 --> 01:57:08,560
Speaker 10: Party's exploiting.

1894
01:57:08,600 --> 01:57:10,320
Speaker 15: Now these children.

1895
01:57:09,920 --> 01:57:13,800
Speaker 10: Who are born to with through birth tourism, when they

1896
01:57:13,880 --> 01:57:17,919
Speaker 10: turn like like I mean, it even had it triggers

1897
01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:23,000
Speaker 10: birth or chain migration so that even their parents are

1898
01:57:23,320 --> 01:57:26,440
Speaker 10: both of their parents are extended citizenship like that is

1899
01:57:26,520 --> 01:57:29,040
Speaker 10: not the way that this was meant to be. And

1900
01:57:29,360 --> 01:57:32,280
Speaker 10: just a year ago, I mean, look, we're at one

1901
01:57:32,360 --> 01:57:35,760
Speaker 10: year now the second Trump administration. One of the first

1902
01:57:35,800 --> 01:57:41,560
Speaker 10: things that Trump did was issue an executive order I

1903
01:57:41,600 --> 01:57:44,840
Speaker 10: believe it was on birthright citizenship saying we're going to

1904
01:57:44,920 --> 01:57:47,560
Speaker 10: put a stop to this. And of course the courts

1905
01:57:47,600 --> 01:57:52,200
Speaker 10: are doing everything that they can to impede him, and

1906
01:57:52,320 --> 01:57:56,200
Speaker 10: to his credit, Trump has been silently doing the work

1907
01:57:56,240 --> 01:58:00,200
Speaker 10: behind the scenes. Stephen Miller, who's my former boss, has

1908
01:58:00,240 --> 01:58:02,720
Speaker 10: been one of the leaders in this and trying to

1909
01:58:02,720 --> 01:58:04,600
Speaker 10: put a stop to this. Back I mean, gosh, back

1910
01:58:04,600 --> 01:58:07,400
Speaker 10: when we worked in the Senate together many many minutes ago,

1911
01:58:08,200 --> 01:58:11,240
Speaker 10: but this was one of Stevens big things that.

1912
01:58:11,200 --> 01:58:12,440
Speaker 15: We had to put a stop with.

1913
01:58:12,840 --> 01:58:16,280
Speaker 10: Is so important, and we didn't even fully realize at

1914
01:58:16,320 --> 01:58:20,600
Speaker 10: the time what the Chinese Communist Party was doing. We're

1915
01:58:20,680 --> 01:58:26,920
Speaker 10: just now, through Peter's valuable scholarship and now this book,

1916
01:58:27,240 --> 01:58:29,400
Speaker 10: are learning the extent of it.

1917
01:58:29,960 --> 01:58:31,800
Speaker 15: But this was it was.

1918
01:58:31,840 --> 01:58:38,480
Speaker 10: Changes made during the Obama administration that allowed the Chinese to.

1919
01:58:38,600 --> 01:58:40,000
Speaker 15: Fully exploit this.

1920
01:58:40,640 --> 01:58:44,320
Speaker 10: And now the chickens are coming home to roost unfortunately,

1921
01:58:44,800 --> 01:58:48,520
Speaker 10: and honestly, I worry that that Eric Holder.

1922
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Speaker 15: And Obama may have known that this was coming and

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Speaker 15: didn't care, and it was by a part of why

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Speaker 15: they were doing it. But regardless, the consequences are.

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Speaker 10: Coming now and it is imperative that lawmakers do something

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Speaker 10: to stop it.

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Speaker 15: And I think that this is just.

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Speaker 10: One of many many blockbuster issues that are going to

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Speaker 10: be exposed by invisible coup that comes out today that

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Speaker 10: lawmakers will want to do something about, and I believe

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Speaker 10: that there will be movement to do something about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, of course Barack Obama doesn't care, because he's

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Speaker 1: a proponent of the hard left agenda in this country,

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Speaker 1: and when it comes to promoting the agenda, that trumps

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Speaker 1: everything else. And so that is the major component and

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Speaker 1: really the only thing that the left in this country

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Speaker 1: is concerned about. But Bradley, Jay, stay right there. We

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Speaker 1: got to get to a quick break, and I want

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Speaker 1: to use to work with Steven Miller. I want to

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Speaker 1: ask you a question about that as we continue on,

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Speaker 1: and we will do that momentarily here on fifty five

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Speaker 8: Brian Thomas here for FOURGR fifty.

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Speaker 1: Five KRC the talk station, Dan Carroll and for Brian

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Speaker 1: to mis Continuing our conversation with Bradleyjy of Breitbart dot

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Speaker 1: Com and Bradleyjay, you mentioned earlier that you used to

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Speaker 1: work with Steven Miller, and look, I'm a guy that

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Speaker 1: whenever I get a chance on my radio shows to

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Speaker 1: play a cut from Steven Miller, I do. I played

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Speaker 1: a couple of cuts from him earlier this morning. When

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Speaker 1: is this guy always this intense? Is he always this

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Speaker 1: on or when you have a chance to kick back

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Speaker 1: and sit around the office and talk a little bit,

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Speaker 1: I get a sense that Steven Miller is a guy

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Speaker 1: that has a great sense of humor.

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Speaker 15: She was very funny every now and then. Every now

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Speaker 15: and then.

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Speaker 10: Look, he was one of the reasons I respected him

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Speaker 10: so much is that he was so professional and so focused.

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Speaker 10: That was also one of the reasons that not everyone.

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Speaker 15: In the Senate liked him. Then it's kind of a

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Speaker 15: good old boys club, and that.

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Speaker 10: Extends to the staff as well. Many people in congressional staffers.

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Speaker 10: I was a congressional staffer for over ten years. They're

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Speaker 10: very impressed with themselves. When frankly they shouldn't be. Stephen

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Speaker 10: was not there for all that, for the backslapping. He

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Speaker 10: was there, he was on a mission. He was there

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Speaker 10: to take care of business. But every now and then

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Speaker 10: we'd cut up a little bit. And I really like

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Speaker 10: Steven learned a lot working working with him, and for

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Speaker 10: the last six months or so before he went to

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Speaker 10: the to the Trump campaign back in Gosh, I was

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Speaker 10: twenty sixteen, sweet fifteen, twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 15: He was my direct boss, but great to work with.

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Speaker 10: And I'm glad to see him rise to the position

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Speaker 10: he is because he is he is a force.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he is. He is absolutely fantastic, and I just

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Speaker 1: get a sense that he actually absolutely loves eviscerating the

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Speaker 1: left every chance that he gets. Voter fraud is one

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Speaker 1: of the most serious issues that we have. Everything that

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Speaker 1: happened in twenty twenty has been exposed. Now there's no

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Speaker 1: question that Joe Biden should not have been certified as

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Speaker 1: President of the United States. And we've got in Oregon,

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Speaker 1: we've got election officials finally beginning to what to purge

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Speaker 1: the roles. There more voter fraud in Washington, and this

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Speaker 1: just showed up just minutes ago. Bradley Jay on my

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Speaker 1: social media and this is in Virginia, and Democrats in

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Speaker 1: Virginia have been in power now for forty eight hours

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Speaker 1: and they've just introduced a bill. And let me read

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Speaker 1: to you part of the text of this bill, election

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Speaker 1: results counting machine readable ballots, requires ballot scanner machines to

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Speaker 1: be used to count machine readable ballots, and prohibits such

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Speaker 1: ballots from being counted by hand for any reason or

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Speaker 1: purpose not specifically authorized by the law. So there you go.

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Speaker 1: There's Democrats in Virginia, and in my opinion, they're seeking

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Speaker 1: to institutionalize and right into law all the voter fraud

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Speaker 1: that they want to engage in.

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Speaker 10: Well, Dan, look, I read in the New York Times

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Speaker 10: that Trump's claims the voter fraud are not credible.

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Speaker 15: So I don't know what you're talking about. It's just

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Speaker 15: like we were talking about earlier.

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Speaker 10: Whenever, whenever the establishment media is like, move on, move along.

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Speaker 15: Nothing to see here. This is not credible, this is

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Speaker 15: there There is no evidence of this.

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Speaker 10: Uh, your your your antennass should perk up. We all

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Speaker 10: know that this goes on. It goes on at the

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Speaker 10: the micro level across the country and has for many years.

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Speaker 15: Increasingly it's gone on.

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Speaker 10: At the macro level, on an organized industrial scale, and

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Speaker 10: we need to get to the bottom of it. It's

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Speaker 10: just like we were talking about with with what Peter

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Speaker 10: Schweitzer is uncovered in his book Invisible Coup.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 15: There, you know, if there.

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Speaker 10: Is a loophole something to be exploited, Uh, folks, folks

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Speaker 10: are gonna exploit it. And it's a matter of time

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Speaker 10: before even our foreign adversaries do it as well.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, Bradley, Jay, great talking to you. We've

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Speaker 1: got to run What's what's the big story you're working

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Speaker 1: on in break Bart today?

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Speaker 10: Hey, I'm excited about Davos. I can't wait for Trump

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Speaker 10: to go overseas and stick it to the globalists. So

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Speaker 10: that's gonna be a lot of fun that speeches tomorrow,

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Speaker 10: so stay tuned for that. And then we might get

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Speaker 10: a Supreme Court decision today on tariffs and maybe even

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Speaker 10: the Voting Rights Act Section two. So that's that's exciting

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Speaker 10: as well. Stay tuned at Bridbart dot com.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Breitbart dot com. I look at it every single

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Speaker 1: day as I get ready for these shows. Bradley, great

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Speaker 1: talking to you. Creep up the great work and certainly

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Speaker 1: hope you get a chance to talk on down the road.

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Speaker 15: Looking forward to Dan.

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Speaker 1: Great to join you all right, there you go, bradleyjfrom

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Speaker 1: Dan Carroll in for Brian Thomas coming down the final

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Speaker 1: half hour of the show today, and my great honor

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Speaker 1: to welcome in Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis, retired from the

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Speaker 1: United States Army, a analyst of all things that deal

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Speaker 1: with Warren policy and Daniel Davis, so great to have

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Speaker 1: you on the show this morning. How are you, sir,

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Speaker 1: I'm doing really well.

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Speaker 13: Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: Thank thank you for being here. I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of Americans have been trying over the last several weeks

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Speaker 1: ever since the Maduro caper. Well actually, I would say

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Speaker 1: starting with blowing the Venezuelan drug boats out of the water,

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Speaker 1: and then we roll in there and we get Maduro

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Speaker 1: out of there, and he's on trial now, and we

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Speaker 1: just saw a lot of I think it was thirteen

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Speaker 1: individuals who were guarding him come in from Cuba. A

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Speaker 1: lot of people trying to get their head around you

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Speaker 1: why are we taking these actions in Venezuela. And I

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Speaker 1: fought from the very beginning that this is part of

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Speaker 1: a larger play on foreign policy with what's happening in Venezuela.

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Speaker 1: Give me your take on what we've seen as it

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Speaker 1: relates to Venezuela.

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Speaker 13: It's a bit of a puzzle, we have to admit,

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Speaker 13: because a lot of the stated reasons seem to have

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Speaker 13: just vanished over not which was always about national security

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Speaker 13: for the United States. It was about keeping the drugs

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Speaker 13: out of the United States, even though by our own accounting,

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Speaker 13: even by the administration itself, that the priority are the

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Speaker 13: primary number of fentanyl, for example, and even cocaine comes

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Speaker 13: out of Colombia, comes out of Mexico. Ironically, even China

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Speaker 13: and India. People are not aware of that those two

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Speaker 13: especially and a very small amount had even comes out

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Speaker 13: of Venezuela. Most of what is produced there goes to Europe. Interestingly,

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Speaker 13: so that was the claim. But then we went in

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Speaker 13: and we took him out, We knocked out a lot

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Speaker 13: of those drug boats, et cetera. And then after we

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Speaker 13: take took Maduro. You haven't heard any I haven't seen

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Speaker 13: a single report of a drug boat being taken out

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Speaker 13: since that time, so I don't know why that would

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Speaker 13: have stopped if it was about drugs into the US.

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Speaker 13: But then of course we have the focus on Actually

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Speaker 13: it's about oil and about taking the oil infrastructure, setting

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Speaker 13: up this long term situation where the United States controls

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Speaker 13: the oil coming out, and we left the Maduro government

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Speaker 13: in the Maduro himself was taken out, but the government

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Speaker 13: was left in place. And other than the fact that

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Speaker 13: we now have access to the Venezuelan oil, not much

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Speaker 13: else has changed.

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Speaker 1: Well. I think from the very beginning it was all

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Speaker 1: about the oil. And one of Venezuela's largest customers, if

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Speaker 1: not the largest customer, is China, and China gets a

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Speaker 1: lot of it's oil from Venezuela. I believe Iran gets

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Speaker 1: a lot of their oil from Venezuela as well, or

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Speaker 1: they've got some kind of relationship going on there. So

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Speaker 1: I look at this as a positioning move on the

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Speaker 1: part of Trump and Marco Rubio to I guess, facilitate

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Speaker 1: whatever it is they want to get out of Iran

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Speaker 1: and whatever they want to get out of China.

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Speaker 13: Well, yeah, I mean you really can't not acknowledge those

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Speaker 13: facts there. And you can add Cuba into that mix

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Speaker 13: because they got most of their oil from Venezuela, at

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Speaker 13: least a large portion of it. So that's a big

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Speaker 13: question what's going to happen to that country internally? That

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Speaker 13: that's something that apparently Marco Rubio is quite excited about

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Speaker 13: the possibility of bringing down that government. But you know,

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Speaker 13: we have to look at it from a national security perspective,

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Speaker 13: from a diplomatic perspective in the United States, and I'm

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Speaker 13: just not sure how that benefits us and upon what

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Speaker 13: basis and what legality or any other kind of morality

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Speaker 13: can we just say we're going to take the head

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Speaker 13: of state out of a country, We're going to take

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Speaker 13: their natural resources and drive China and Russia out of

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Speaker 13: that market. I mean, we always talk about how we

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Speaker 13: want the global comments to be open to everybody, to

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Speaker 13: include areas in Asia and in Europe and in the

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Speaker 13: South America, et cetera. We want to keep everything open.

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Speaker 13: But now we're saying it's only open to us, so

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Speaker 13: we're going to literally drive out other people. And looking

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Speaker 13: at when you take actions like this, very often there's

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Speaker 13: a tip for tat there's a reaction. People are not

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Speaker 13: just going to be driven out of a market and

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Speaker 13: do nothing. We could find ourselves potentially being blocked out

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Speaker 13: of other markets that we want to be in. So

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Speaker 13: it's a problem when we say we want the rule

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Speaker 13: of law and the open global commons in one hand,

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Speaker 13: but then we take it by force in another. It

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Speaker 13: just doesn't play out.

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Speaker 1: Well for us. Yeah, that's a good point. Well, let

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Speaker 1: me ask you about this. How interested were you to

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Speaker 1: read about the operation that conducted to get Maduro out

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Speaker 1: of there and the information that came out afterwards about

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Speaker 1: these sonic weapons that the United States may have used

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Speaker 1: during that operation that incapacitated these guardsmen. And I guess

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Speaker 1: you bleed from the years, and you bleed from the

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Speaker 1: eyes and all that sort of thing. This use of

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Speaker 1: this sonic weapon in order to make this operation take place,

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Speaker 1: is that something you knew about or is that something

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Speaker 1: that is relatively new on the scene.

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Speaker 13: It's relatively new on the scene in terms of its

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Speaker 13: production and performance in a real operation. It's been something

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Speaker 13: that's been deployed for quite a long time. I remember

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Speaker 13: in the mid two thousands, when I was still in

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Speaker 13: active duty, I was assigned to the Future Combat Systems

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Speaker 13: at Ford Plus, Texas, where we were doing a lot

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Speaker 13: of futures things, and one of the weapons systems that

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Speaker 13: was publicly being developed at that time was a microwavetop

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Speaker 13: technology that does those kinds of things. We didn't hear

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Speaker 13: a lot about it after that, but obviously, at least

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Speaker 13: according to reports. I don't have any insider info, but

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Speaker 13: just according to reports, it just kind of went dark.

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Speaker 13: No one was talking much about it. Now, this is

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Speaker 13: the first time I'm aware that something has occurred in

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Speaker 13: an operational environment. So you can be sure that this

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Speaker 13: is like everything else you ever see in war. Once

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Speaker 13: it's something that opens on the scene, others are going

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Speaker 13: to emulate it. So's it was helpful to us in

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Speaker 13: this operation here, but we can probably count on it

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Speaker 13: at some point where it's going to be used against

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Speaker 13: us as well. That's just the nature of war.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and my next question was going to be, doesn't

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Speaker 1: send a message to those who might be our enemies

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Speaker 1: that look, here's another component that you're going to have

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Speaker 1: to deal with. Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 13: I mean that, of course, we see that on routine

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Speaker 13: display in the RUSSI of Ukraine War about the development

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Speaker 13: of various types of drones counter drone technology, and then

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Speaker 13: the other side always emulates it, tries to improve upon it,

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Speaker 13: then the other side tries to counter it, et cetera.

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Speaker 13: And that is definitely the play here where our adversaries

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Speaker 13: are saying, Okay, I see that that works, let me

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Speaker 13: develop one. It's been out in the open anyway. I'm

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Speaker 13: sure they've ben't doing it anyway. But if if they

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Speaker 13: needed any incentive to accelerate their invaluement, it's now.

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Speaker 1: In your opinion, how much trouble is the leadership in Iran?

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Speaker 1: How much trouble are they in? And the reports of

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Speaker 1: this that there are billions, millions or billions of dollars

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Speaker 1: that are that are leaving the country, and Scott Descent

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Speaker 1: was talking about that over the weekend, that they're they're

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Speaker 1: seeing all this money being deposited in other banks around

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Speaker 1: the world. How much trouble is the leadership in Iran?

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Speaker 1: And in the face of these demonstrations that we've seen

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Speaker 1: in the streets.

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Speaker 13: Well, there is no question that they are in a

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Speaker 13: weekened position from what they were prior to the twenty

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Speaker 13: eighth of December, when a lot of this stuff started,

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Speaker 13: but I think that it's an exaggeration to say they're

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Speaker 13: in a seriously weakened position. So far, we've seen that

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Speaker 13: they the regime has been able to handle this. They've

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Speaker 13: been able to crack down on a lot of this

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Speaker 13: descent that happened. And we also have to acknowledge that

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Speaker 13: a lot of the just according to Mike Pompeo, was

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Speaker 13: because of we and the Mossad and probably six were

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Speaker 13: part of actively trying to foment a lot of this stuff.

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Speaker 13: So it's trying to create more because there's already a

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Speaker 13: fisher there. There's already weakness because of the regime itself.

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Speaker 13: There's also a weakness because of these sanctions we've imposed

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Speaker 13: upon them to try to bring their economy to crashing

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Speaker 13: to the floor anyway. So a lot of these things

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Speaker 13: have existed before, but so far it appears that the

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Speaker 13: Iranian government is wathered the worst of the storm here.

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Speaker 13: And then the real question is, since that appears to

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Speaker 13: be the case, now, what is the Trump administration and

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Speaker 13: the Israelis going to do, Because it looks to me

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Speaker 13: like that they're getting ready to do something bigger than

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Speaker 13: what they might have done earlier.

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Speaker 2: This month.

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Speaker 13: According to Lindsey Graham, anyway, something bigger is coming and

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Speaker 13: a regime change operation is coming. We'll see if that's

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Speaker 13: just hyperbole or if we see another attack.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, what do you think the next step

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Speaker 1: would be? Because I feel pretty confident in saying that

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Speaker 1: there really is no appetite in this country to see

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Speaker 1: anything that looks like boots on the ground in in Iran.

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Speaker 13: That is the real problem to some of these people

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Speaker 13: who want regime change. They want regime change on the cheap,

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Speaker 13: and they want it with that, with cost free. Lindsey

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Speaker 13: Graham and his pronouncement of this last I think Friday

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Speaker 13: made this comment that, yeah, once that the regime is dropped,

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Speaker 13: it's gonna usher in a whole new era. And I

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Speaker 13: just couldn't help but cringe. I'm like, dude, you realize

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Speaker 13: that's exactly what the United States said in the Bush

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Speaker 13: administration before Iraq in two thousand and three. And we

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Speaker 13: see how that turned out, and we see it nearly

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02:14:37,880 --> 02:14:39,720
Speaker 13: always turns out like that. If you think you can

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Speaker 13: go on on the cheap and just throw a few

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Speaker 13: missiles out there, and that's going to make the regime fall,

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Speaker 13: and it's going to be great after that man, you

2224
02:14:45,720 --> 02:14:48,120
Speaker 13: hadn't been paying attention to world history or paying any

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Speaker 13: attention to human nature. It's almost certainly not going to

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Speaker 13: work out that way. And the regime is aware of

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Speaker 13: our plans, and they have plans. They have con continuity

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Speaker 13: of government plans. So even if you took out the

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Speaker 13: the Ayatola, they said, by the way, that would be

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Speaker 13: full and war. And now then they have no reason

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Speaker 13: to withhold and they would tack other Americans in the region.

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Speaker 13: We don't want a situation to where we bring our

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Speaker 13: own troops else in the region under fire. And by

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Speaker 13: the way, their missiles can penetrate our air defense out there,

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Speaker 13: and if they choose to, they can reach a wreak

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Speaker 13: a lot of damage and death on our troops. And

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Speaker 13: I hope we don't find out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, when you when you look at green have

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Speaker 1: you ever been to Greenland, by the way, as beautiful.

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Speaker 13: Colt Okay, been to Austin that had been to Greenland?

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Speaker 1: Right, But when it when it comes to Greenland, I

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Speaker 1: think it's easy to make the and and understand the

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Speaker 1: argument for its its position on the on the on

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Speaker 1: the globe, why it would be a strategic importance for

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Speaker 1: the United States. Uh, I don't know that I can

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Speaker 1: get my head around with. You know what has been

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Speaker 1: coming from the administration as far as wanting to have

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Speaker 1: more influence in Greenland. How do you size up that situation.

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Speaker 13: Look, here's the here's the troubling part about all this,

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Speaker 13: this claim that we have to have Greenland or our

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Speaker 13: national security will be at risk, and Denmark can't defend it,

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Speaker 13: et cetera. Denmark has never defended Greenland. It's always been NATO.

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Speaker 13: It's got Article five protections, the same as every other

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Speaker 13: NATO country. So I mean, just like you'd say, well,

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Speaker 13: you can't say Lithuania, the little Lithuania can defend itself

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Speaker 13: against Russia.

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Speaker 1: It can't.

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Speaker 13: That's why it's a part of NATO, because it wants

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Speaker 13: that protection. The same would be for Greenland. But the

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Speaker 13: other issue that I talked about is that, look, even

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Speaker 13: when you look at Russia, why in the world would

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Speaker 13: Russia ever want Greenland to risk an Article five attack

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Speaker 13: against a nuclear powered alliance when it already has a

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Speaker 13: massive Arctic presence on its own border. China is even worse.

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Speaker 13: China wants access to the Arctic for economic reasons, but

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Speaker 13: they don't have the military to project naval and air

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Speaker 13: power to even make an attempt to seize it. So

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Speaker 13: there is literally there is no is from it. Our

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Speaker 13: Article five already protects it. And by the way, if

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Speaker 13: you want it for air defense or this Golden Dome situation,

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Speaker 13: you already have that. With the treaties that we have

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Speaker 13: in place, we can expand our footprint. We don't need

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Speaker 13: to own it in order to have those things met.

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Speaker 13: So I don't really understand, though, what's really at the

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Speaker 13: heart of why President Trump seems so emphatic about owning

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02:17:21,280 --> 02:17:23,440
Speaker 13: it because it comes a great cost to us, and

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Speaker 13: I'm talking great cost over an extended period of time.

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02:17:26,360 --> 02:17:28,039
Speaker 13: I don't know that he's thought through a lot of that,

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02:17:28,600 --> 02:17:30,200
Speaker 13: because I think if he did, he would see, we

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02:17:30,240 --> 02:17:33,560
Speaker 13: don't want to saddle our country with billions of dollars

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02:17:33,600 --> 02:17:36,440
Speaker 13: already going to another country just to keep them afloat.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, Daniel Davis, Lieutenant colonel retired from the Army,

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Speaker 1: and thank you so much for your perspective this morning.

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Speaker 1: Great to have you on for the fifty five KRC

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Speaker 1: Morning Show, and keep up the great work. I certainly

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Speaker 1: hope we can get a chance to talk on down

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Speaker 1: the road or too. Thank you lot, all right, thank

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Speaker 1: you very much, and with that we will get to

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Speaker 1: a break eight forty two on fifty five krc DE

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Speaker 1: Talk station.

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Speaker 3: Now that a new year is here, Start twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Fifty five karc DE Talk Station. Dan Carrell sitting for

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Speaker 1: Brian Thomas. Always a great pleasure to come in and

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Speaker 1: be here for the UH one of the probably the

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Speaker 1: greatest audience in Cincinnati radio, the Brian Thomas audience. All

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Speaker 1: the best to him and everything that he's going through,

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Speaker 1: and if he wants to take a day off, I'm

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Speaker 1: here for it. So thanks to Joe Strecker, thanks to

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Speaker 1: Brian for letting me sit in, and if you want

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Speaker 1: to jump on board here in the last seven or

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Speaker 1: eight minutes five one, three, seven, four, nine fifty five hundred, Joe,

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Speaker 1: if I asked you off the top of your head,

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Speaker 1: could you name the nine biggest companies in Cincinnati? Okay?

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Speaker 1: But I think most anyone could probably get the top

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Speaker 1: four or five easily. And Alexander Coolidge of The Inquirer

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Speaker 1: has got this piece out this morning, I identifying the

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Speaker 1: nine biggest companies in Cincinnati in terms of in terms

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Speaker 1: of money, in terms of revenue, what they're worth. And

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Speaker 1: so it starts off with number nine is TQL. Would

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Speaker 1: you have guess TQL? And there Joe at number nine,

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Speaker 1: not at number nine, but yeah, but it's got And

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Speaker 1: this is one of these things that I love this

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Speaker 1: kind of stuff because here in Cincinnati, we love our history,

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Speaker 1: we love the nostalgia, We love the knowing about our

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Speaker 1: local companies and where they come from, how they got started,

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Speaker 1: and all the rest of it. And that's what he's

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Speaker 1: done here. TQL number nine. Total Quality Logistics freight broker's

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02:19:45,800 --> 02:19:49,160
Speaker 1: firm helps businesses make connections to get products to where

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Speaker 1: they need to go. Founded in nineteen ninety seven by

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Speaker 1: Ken Oaks, former produced buyer. So frustrated with unreliable freight

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Speaker 1: shipping he started his own company. And the rest history

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Speaker 1: and that building they've got out there in Eastgate right

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Speaker 1: along two seventy five, absolutely amazing, So congratulations to them.

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Speaker 1: American Financial Group comes in at number eight. Eight point

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Speaker 1: three billion. Specially Insured traces its roots back to eighteen

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Speaker 1: seventy two, when the German American Insurance Company sold its

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Speaker 1: first ever policy to a rubber comb factory company changed

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Speaker 1: its name because of anti German sentiment during World War Two,

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Speaker 1: and then in nineteen seventy three, Carl Linder Junior acquired

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Speaker 1: a majority share of the conglomerate and merged it with

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Speaker 1: his holding company, American Financial Group. Number seven is sentas

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Speaker 1: nine point six billion and sentas of course, they make uniforms.

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Speaker 1: They make all kinds of stuff, mops, shop towels, restrooms, supplies.

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Speaker 1: I did not know. This company traces its roots back

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Speaker 1: to nineteen twenty nine, when a couple of out of

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Speaker 1: work circus performers, Doc and Amelia Farmer began an industrial

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Speaker 1: laundry business called the Acme Industrial Laundry Company. They collected

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Speaker 1: rags thrown out by factories, cleaned them, and resold them

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Speaker 1: to manufacturers. So how about that Their grandson, Dick Farmer,

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02:21:24,640 --> 02:21:30,400
Speaker 1: expanded the business by providing uniforms. So there's that's a

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Speaker 1: little little history of the sentas company. Cincinnati Financial found

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02:21:36,760 --> 02:21:40,520
Speaker 1: that in nineteen fifty comes in at eleven point three billion.

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02:21:41,160 --> 02:21:47,800
Speaker 1: Core business is casualty insurance, So there's that. Then then

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Speaker 1: we get to then we get to the really big ones.

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Speaker 1: Everyone knows. Fifth Third Bank comes in that at fifth

2346
02:21:55,120 --> 02:21:59,959
Speaker 1: place thirteen point three billion. Fifth third founded an eighteen

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Speaker 1: fifty eight as the Bank of the Ohio Valley. Then

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Speaker 1: number four is Western Southern thirteen point eight billion, started

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Speaker 1: as a small door to door life insurance. Amazing, how

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Speaker 1: many life insurance companies and insurance companies have their home

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Speaker 1: and started here in Cincinnati. But Western Southern eighteen eighty

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Speaker 1: eight started as a door to door life insurance business

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Speaker 1: selling policies to local industrial workers. GE Aerospace thirty eight

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Speaker 1: point seven billion, and we all pretty much know about GE.

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Speaker 1: Then you got Procter and Gamble. Eighty four billion dollars

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Speaker 1: is the net worth there? I would suspect that Procter

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Speaker 1: and gambles Joe, would you say, Procter and Gamble is

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Speaker 1: worth more than eighty four billion? I would I would think, so.

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Speaker 1: I think that's that's a low number there. And then

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Speaker 1: Kroger comes in at number If it was me, I

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Speaker 1: would have put Procter and Gamble in front of Crow.

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Speaker 1: I would have thought Kroger is a little bit I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, look, Kroger is a great company. But number

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Speaker 1: one Pappas and the papist number one Andrew Pappas. We

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Speaker 1: got a couple of minutes here what's uh, what's what's

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Speaker 1: gotta be in your bonnet this morning?

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Speaker 19: I'm just kind of shocked. There was in a smally

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Speaker 19: and run daycare is number one here and there.

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Speaker 1: They're quickly moving up the chain.

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Speaker 19: I think you need to re evaluate that list.

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Speaker 1: They've got great cash flow, so wonderful cast.

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Speaker 19: When you have quarantined income and no expenses, it makes

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Speaker 19: for an easy bottom line.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a whole new business model. It needs

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Speaker 1: to be fully explored.

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Speaker 19: I I agree, and I concur Now let's I just

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Speaker 19: want to remind everybody that if you have an old

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Speaker 19: smelly shoe laying around the house, perfectly burking stock, it's

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Speaker 19: apparently at two pm today the Libs are going to

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Speaker 19: walk outside.

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Speaker 1: What is the deal with that? What is that? What

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Speaker 1: is that supposed to me?

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Speaker 19: I have no idea what they're doing, but you know,

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Speaker 19: a lot of what the Democrats and Liberals do these days,

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Speaker 19: much like that church storming with Don Lemon yesterday or

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Speaker 19: over the weekend. I just don't understand what the Libs do.

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Speaker 17: But I just wanted to give.

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Speaker 19: Them something for you know, you get much like a

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Speaker 19: pet that's destructive. You've got to give them something to

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Speaker 19: focus their energy on. I feel like if you leave

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Speaker 19: a pair of stinky, smelly I don't own birkenstocks. I

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Speaker 19: think you do, Dan Carroll, you.

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Speaker 1: Never had a pair of birkinstuns.

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Speaker 19: I think that if you leave them outside, it will

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Speaker 19: give them something to chew on for a few minutes

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Speaker 19: and direct their energy into into something less destructive.

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Speaker 1: You think I've got it. I've got an old gym

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Speaker 1: shoe I can put out there to show my solidarity

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Speaker 1: with the what what? What are they walking out for

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Speaker 1: thirty seconds?

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Speaker 19: I think just just general, just general mayhem. I mean,

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Speaker 19: that's what I've heard.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 19: I've saw it online. We shall see. I'll wait outside

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Speaker 19: your office today, so you walk outside at two pm.

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Speaker 1: I'll have to make sure I bring my up put.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget to put your coat on out it might

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Speaker 1: be cold outside. Andrew, we got to run, buddy. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you later. Thank you very much. Papus Wigan

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Speaker 1: in here at the end of the show. That's it

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Speaker 1: for me. I'm out of here. Glenn Beck is up next.

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Speaker 1: Joe Strecker, thank you for everything and all the best

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Speaker 1: to Brian Thomas, and thank you for listening on fifty

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Speaker 1: five KRC, the talk station.

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