1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,520 Speaker 1: Billy feeling good. 2 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: It's skyline time and by the original Montgomery In and 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 2: the Montgomery In at the boat House, home of the 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: world's greatest rifts. 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Now here's Dan. 6 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 3: Horde, Terry Nelson and u SE's head coach Wes Miller. 7 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 2: A very pleasant, good evening, everybody. Welcome to the West 8 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: Miller Radio Show. We are in the studio here at 9 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW again tonight. That'll be the case tonight, 10 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: probably next week. We hope to be back at the 11 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: original Montgomery In the week after that, but renovations are 12 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: going on at the Inn right now and as a result, 13 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: we are doing the show from the studio tonight. I'm 14 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: Dan Horde with former Bearcats stand out Terry Nelson and 15 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 2: of course the star of the show, Bearcat's head coach, 16 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: Wes Miller. The Cats back in action tomorrow night at 17 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 2: home against West Virginia. Back to back home games coming 18 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 2: up West Virginia tomorrow and UCF on Super Bowl Sunday, 19 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: a plenty early enough to be able to watch the 20 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: Bearcats and then head home to watch Super Bowl sixty. 21 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: I know you get locked in to your world this 22 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: time of year, Coach, do you know who's playing in 23 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. 24 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 4: I know the Patriots are playing in the Super Bowl, 25 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 4: and I was asked this question earlier today I did, 26 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 4: that's crazy. I did not know the Seahawks were playing, 27 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 4: but I found that out today. I'm Drake May's family. 28 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 4: His older brother, Luke is a friend of mine. I 29 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 4: know his family a little bit through Luke. I do 30 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 4: not profess to be friends with the guy that's playing 31 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 4: quarterback in the Super Bowl, but I know his brother. 32 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 4: So for that reason, I'm pulling for the Patriots. And 33 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 4: that's kind of why I knew that they were in it, 34 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 4: because we have some mutual friends and stuff, and I'm 35 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 4: on some of the text threads. But I didn't know 36 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 4: the Seahawks were in it till today. 37 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: Well, the Mays are North Carolina Royalty more or less, 38 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: the dad played quarterback there. Luke was part of a 39 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: national championship basketball team. Drake had a great career as 40 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: a quarterback in North Carolina. So like you from your 41 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: college playing days, they are tar. 42 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: Heels, Yeah, which would there's the there's the connection. 43 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 4: And I know Luke very well golf buddy in the summertime, 44 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 4: and so it's cool to see his brother out there. Uh, 45 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 4: in the Super Bowl, I'll be pulling for his brother. 46 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 3: Is it safe to say that if it's not the 47 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: team that you're playing any other sport during the during. 48 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: The time, very safe? 49 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 4: You know. I was, like like most of us, right, 50 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 4: I was sports fan my whole life and grew up 51 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 4: watching football, and it was a Carolina Panthers fan inauggural season. Uh, 52 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 4: in the Carolina Panthers fan that was when I was 53 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 4: in middle school, you know, so college football professional for 54 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 4: NFL football, I was the kid watching all those games 55 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 4: if they were on television. But no, since I've been 56 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 4: a head coach, I know far less about anything outside 57 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 4: of college basketball. And then, you know, in the preseason 58 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 4: and then the postseason, I followed the NBA very closely, 59 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 4: some of the European competitions, but at this time of 60 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 4: the year, it's purely college basketball. 61 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 2: I know you are a bear Cat now through and 62 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: through and not a tar Heel, But I do have 63 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: one North Carolina basketball question for you. I was reading 64 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 2: the other day about this controversy over whether to build 65 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 2: a new arena, well renovate the Dean Dome. Your former coach, 66 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: Roy Williams has come out strongly in favor of staying 67 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: on campus at the Dean Dome. Do you have an opinion? 68 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: It's funny. 69 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 4: I didn't know that was public knowledge, some of the 70 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 4: stuff back and forth, but they had a former player 71 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 4: zoom that they wanted everybody to jump on and voice, 72 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 4: you know, their opinions about staying in the Dean Smith Center. 73 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 4: I didn't participate in the zoom. I think I don't 74 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 4: know what we were doing. We were doing something, all right, 75 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 4: something that was going on with our program. We might 76 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 4: have been playing that night, or practicing or something. But 77 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 4: some I'm aware of the whole deal. I've learned this. 78 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 4: Whatever Roy Williams says, I agree with when it comes 79 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 4: to that program, And I'd have felt the same way 80 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 4: about Coach Smith when he was alive, and I think 81 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 4: that's what those guys would have wanted, so I'd support that. 82 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: What is Coach Williams up to right now? In his 83 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: off time? He watches all. 84 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 4: The Bearcat games, I can tell you guys that, and 85 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 4: loves to send me text messages before and after games. 86 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 4: But no, he's he's not one of these people that's 87 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 4: retired in his board. He's as busy now as he 88 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 4: was when he was coaching, whether it's you know, speaking engagements. 89 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 4: He lends his time to a ton of great causes 90 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 4: and gets involved. He goes to and you know, almost 91 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 4: all the Carolina games. Still obviously cares golf deeply. He plays. 92 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 4: He played playing golf when he was coaching. He probably 93 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 4: wouldn't like me saying that on air, but he played 94 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 4: a lot of golf. Then he's playing more golf now, 95 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 4: and then you know, he follows college basketball. He follows 96 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 4: our program closely because of our relationship, which has been 97 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 4: special for me. 98 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 2: Who's active right now on his coaching tree. 99 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 4: Wow, Uh, there's there's there's not many, And there was 100 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 4: at one point, right at one point, there was a 101 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 4: ton of a ton of Division one head coaches out there. 102 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: Uh, but but right now, not many guys. I think 103 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: I'm one of you. 104 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 4: King Rice, he was a assistant when he coached King 105 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 4: Rice at North Carolina. 106 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: I'm I may be forgetting. 107 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 4: I think one of his former players at Kansas is 108 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 4: one of the best Division two head coaches in the country. 109 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 4: I can't think of the school that he's had so 110 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 4: and I think there's other guys that are assistants in 111 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 4: the NBA, well, the current coach, but head coaches in 112 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 4: Division one, you know, obviously Hubert Davis, Uh, myself, King Rice, 113 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 4: and then I think you get into the NBA and 114 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 4: assistant coaches, there's a ton There's a ton of guys, 115 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 4: so it'd be it'd be unfair not to mention that 116 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 4: there's a number of people if you if you go 117 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 4: into that realm. 118 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: All right, enough on the tar Heels. Let's turn to 119 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: the Bearcats. He played most recently on Saturday at Houston. 120 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: By the end of the game, you are missing four 121 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 2: guys that at the beginning of the season we're expected 122 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,679 Speaker 2: to be four key members of your rotation. You haven't 123 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 2: had Jalen Haynes all year. Buck Harris was out for 124 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: the second straight game with the flu, Sean Abia was 125 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,799 Speaker 2: out with an ankle injury, and then with five minutes 126 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 2: to go in the first half, you lost Mustapha job. 127 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 2: That would have been tough against any team, It's especially 128 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: tough in a road game at Houston. Fortunately, you don't 129 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: play again until tomorrow, So if you could have picked 130 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 2: a stretch where you've got a little bit of extra 131 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 2: time to get ready for a game, this is a 132 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: good time to have it. How are the various wounded 133 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 2: guys doing. 134 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 4: Oh, we're the walking wounded right now in Clifton. You know, 135 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 4: it's it's just been what like you said, illness injuries. 136 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 4: We've kind of hit a stretch here, and this year's 137 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 4: been plagued by things like that all year, but we've 138 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 4: hit a stretch here where everybody's kind of dealing with something. 139 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 4: I think Mustapha is tough and he'll try to give 140 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 4: it a go. We'll see how he feels and warm 141 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 4: ups tomorrow. You know, since here, Harris is back practicing, 142 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 4: so that's been really really healthy, and Sean has not 143 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 4: yet practiced. His injury or his ankle injury was very significant. 144 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 4: So I said this in my press conference days anybody 145 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 4: else that I need to I mean Curage practicing on 146 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 4: the shoulder. Obviously he's been playing some in the last 147 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 4: couple of games. And then I actually had to ask 148 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 4: the media whom I forgetting you're Tyler Tyler, and they 149 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 4: did a good job of reminded me. But no, Tyler 150 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 4: Tyler is having a good week and has not been 151 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 4: limited this week, which is which is great. One of 152 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 4: the first probably the first week all year, he's not 153 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 4: been limited, So that's that's some positive news. 154 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 3: The team that you recruited and envisioned coaching is not 155 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 3: the team that you have right now. So when it 156 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 3: without when we're not making excuses, But what I want 157 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 3: to say is when you go and you're doing your prep, 158 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 3: you and your staff not knowing if you're going to 159 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 3: have a player or not for that for the for 160 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 3: the next day, because it's a game by game situation. 161 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: How do you prep? 162 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 3: When you prep your who's gonna be in what positions, 163 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 3: what defense you're gonna run, do you have to do 164 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 3: something special or something different knowing that you may not 165 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 3: have a full roster or the guys that are available 166 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 3: to play. 167 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: Well, I'm so old school in this sense. That's why 168 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: I love practice. 169 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 4: I mean, outside of the competition in the moment of 170 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 4: the game, it's just obviously that's a crazy high and 171 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 4: what we do. 172 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: But outside of that. 173 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 4: The the greatest parts, the greatest basketball parts are practice. 174 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 4: For coaches, I mean, and that's why you rely on 175 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 4: all the things you've done in practice summer fall. It's 176 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 4: why you sometimes you know you've had assistant coaches over 177 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 4: the years ago why the heck, did you play that 178 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 4: guy like you could have played you know, so and 179 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 4: so more minutes tonight in a game in November December. 180 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 4: Why did you play him two or three minutes? Well, 181 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 4: because you know, I ever know when he's gonna have 182 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 4: to play fifteen or twenty, you know. And so I 183 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 4: think it's also so whether it's practice and developing your 184 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 4: whole roster, whether it's trying to give guys real playing 185 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 4: time and playing with a lot of depth, especially early 186 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 4: in middle of the year, I think you do that 187 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 4: so you have a chance when things that are unforeseen happen. 188 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 4: The only thing that's probably been frustrating, it's all been frustrating, 189 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 4: but the thing that's not normal in any ways. This 190 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 4: is the first time in my fifteen years head coach 191 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 4: where I've had moments where we have to play lineups 192 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 4: we've never even practiced with, you know, in that end games. 193 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: So you end up in a. 194 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 4: Game or two this year where you've looked out and 195 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 4: we've never even done five or zero with that group. 196 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 4: And it's not like we play with the same lineups. 197 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 4: We do a lot of versatility with our lineups in practice, 198 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 4: especially in the preseason, and so that's been a little 199 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 4: bit new and that's a challenge, but you rely on 200 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 4: the fundamentals and the things that you work on every day. 201 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 2: When that's the case. When that's been the case, is 202 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 2: it a bigger problem on offense or defense? 203 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: It depends on the depends on the possession the game. 204 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 4: I mean it, you know, it's just that it's not 205 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 4: one or the other. At times it's been, you know, 206 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 4: one or the other, but it's it's hard to pinpoint. 207 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 4: I mean, I think we had a game against Eastern 208 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 4: Michigan earlier in the year and it was it was very, 209 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 4: very difficult to get a rebound. We had, you know, 210 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 4: three three freshmen in Mustafa who's like a young sophomore 211 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 4: on the court at times, so you have, you know, 212 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 4: four under clubs. We built this team with all these 213 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 4: older players and a couple sprinkled in young guys that 214 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 4: we thought would be very very good for us. But 215 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 4: that was really hard because they don't know where to 216 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 4: go on offense. Defensively, we were fine at times, but 217 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 4: we struggled to rebound. 218 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: And then in the Houston game, it you know. 219 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 4: It's hard on every level there because you're playing against 220 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 4: one of the best teams. As you said in the 221 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 4: country on the road. 222 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 3: You get since here Harris back. I know he's been 223 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 3: out for a week with an illness. Gotta believe he's 224 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 3: you say he drops, he drops some pounds. I know 225 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 3: he was one of your top dogs defensively. Does he 226 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 3: lose a little bit of his bark now that he 227 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 3: lost some weight? I mean, is he a chihuahua at 228 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 3: the door or what's going on here with him? 229 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? 230 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 4: I don't think you should tell him that when you 231 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 4: see him out there tomorrow in warm ups. No, he's 232 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 4: he doesn't lack for edge or toughness. And you know, 233 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 4: I think he lost eight and a half pounds is 234 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 4: what I was told with the flu. But he's he's 235 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 4: had his same you know, sincere edge and toughness and 236 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 4: practice here over the last day and a half. And 237 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,719 Speaker 4: I don't think he's one hundred percent, But I think 238 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 4: he'll play hard and I think he'll compete. 239 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 2: There's a month left in the regular season. Jalen Haynes 240 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 2: hasn't played. Is there any reason to think that if 241 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 2: he doesn't play it would be difficult to get an 242 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: extra year? 243 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: No, I think that's that's the idea of it, right. 244 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 4: I think there was a time where we were hoping 245 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 4: that if he could just expedite the recovery. Probably you know, 246 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 4: he broke his patella bone in his knee, so that's 247 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 4: not a that's not an insignificant injury. But we were hoping, man, 248 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 4: it could be expedite that with just the work that 249 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 4: he's doing with his rehab, and it looked like that 250 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 4: might be possible and give him credit for that that 251 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 4: he maybe he could get back and just miss some 252 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 4: a conference and get back into it. But at this 253 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 4: point he's not there yet, right, He's not at the 254 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 4: point he could get thrown out into a game. So 255 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 4: you really you're burning that extra potential extra year, and 256 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 4: I've said there's a good, good, really good chance of that, 257 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 4: and that's not fair to the young man, right, and 258 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 4: especially when you guys think about the financial implications. Almost 259 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 4: like John Newman, very similar to John Newman, except you know, 260 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 4: well very similar. I mean they both get hurt. John 261 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 4: gets hurt I think the week of the first game. 262 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 4: Jalen Hayes gets hurt two and a half weeks before 263 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 4: the first game, so very similar. You went through the 264 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 4: entire preseason building around them and then you lose them. 265 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: Right before you start. 266 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 4: But that was a blessing for John and he had 267 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 4: such a good year there in our first year in 268 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 4: the Big I can't imagine playing that first year in 269 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 4: the Big twelve without him. 270 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, he wanted to come back. 271 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 3: He was January, he was shooting around and doing warm 272 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 3: ups and he was like, I want to. I said, look, 273 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 3: you're going into the Big twelve. You'll be able to 274 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 3: guard some of the best wing players in America. This 275 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 3: will give you the best platform showcase. Don't come back 276 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 3: for a month for AAC play like it's just it's 277 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 3: not worth it. 278 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, gosh. 279 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 4: I always always say to people that that last year 280 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 4: we were in the American with we didn't have great 281 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 4: depth that year with a lot of injuries that year too, 282 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 4: with Vick's ankle and Rob Tennessee went down twice, right 283 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 4: in John, but like, we didn't have a lot of depth. 284 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 4: But that team, if that if John's on that team 285 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 4: with Landers Knowledge who was just terrific, and Dave de 286 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 4: Julius who was terrific, and Mike Adams Woods who was 287 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 4: very solid player, and like, you know, you add John 288 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 4: Newman to that and you keep Vic healthy the whole way. 289 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 4: Who had his best year here that year. That's a 290 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 4: top twenty type team. But we could never get It's 291 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 4: kind of like very similar. We could never get the 292 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 4: health right, and when it was right, it looked pretty good. 293 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 4: But it got John back for that first year in 294 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 4: the Big twelve, and I can't imagine going through that 295 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 4: year without him. 296 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: He was terrific. 297 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 2: For the bulk of your time at UNC Greensboro, did 298 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 2: you have relatively good injury fortune? 299 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, we had. We had one year. I think 300 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: it was my third third year as a head coach. 301 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 4: It was something like this, right, we're just like we 302 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 4: were playing like we're starting like a walk on Asadela 303 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 4: Mat shout out to him. He ended up he I 304 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 4: don't know how we'd have made it through the season 305 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 4: without him, but he was a walk on. It ended 306 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 4: up starting. But we were playing non scholarship players. But 307 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 4: outside of that, we had very little injury issues, I 308 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 4: mean very few. And so again that's life, like things 309 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 4: swing your way. And I think what this has been 310 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 4: fun with this group is they haven't let it affect 311 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 4: their work ethic, or their spirit or their belief and 312 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 4: they just keep coming to work and keep trying to 313 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 4: find different ways to figure it out, and that's been 314 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 4: pretty rewarding. 315 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 2: All Right, we need to take a time out. This 316 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 2: is the West Miller Radio Show. We're in the studio 317 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 2: tonight a news radio seven hundred WLW an undred WLW. 318 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 2: The Bearcats back in action tomorrow night. It's a home 319 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 2: game against West Virginia, a seven o'clock tip at Fifth 320 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: Third Arena, a rematch. Bearcats face the Mountaineers in Morgantown 321 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 2: last month. Tight game West Virginia wanted by two, and 322 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 2: unfortunately that was one of the games early this season, coach, 323 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 2: where you put yourselves in a great position to win 324 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 2: and unfortunately could not make the plays you needed to 325 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 2: make in the final three minutes of that game. 326 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like a hard one to go back 327 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 4: and watch. And we were preparing for this one. You know, 328 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 4: I'd remind myself, we're getting ready for a game, not yelling, yelling, 329 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 4: yelling at the at the in the film room. 330 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: But no, you know, like you said, we had a 331 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: two possession lead there with. 332 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 4: Two and a half minutes left in the ball So 333 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 4: we did some nice things to get in position to 334 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 4: be in that spot, but we didn't close the game out. 335 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 4: But a very good West Virginia team, like everybody in 336 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 4: the Big twelve, and we know it'll be a challenge 337 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 4: tomorrow night. 338 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 3: You have the opportunity to play against or try to 339 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 3: contain Honor Huff, which had an amazing shooting night, one 340 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 3: of the best three point shooters in the quickest releases 341 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 3: in college basketball? Is there any I can give you 342 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 3: the scott In point away Scotting report away. What I 343 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 3: am saying is, is there things that you can do 344 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 3: differently to try to get him to cool off or 345 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 3: not even give him the touches that he needs. 346 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 4: Well, I think this isn't saying anything that's going to 347 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 4: give anything away, but I think every everybody in our 348 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 4: league that plays West Virginia has to kind of figure 349 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 4: out the best way to make make it a difficult 350 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 4: night for Hugh. I mean, it doesn't mean you can 351 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 4: because he can shoot it fading away, he can shoot 352 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 4: it seven eight feet behind the line, he can shoot 353 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 4: it off the catch. 354 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: They do creative stuff to get him shots. He can 355 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: shoot it off the dribble. 356 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 4: So it doesn't mean that you can because he can 357 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 4: make very very difficult shots that nobody can stop. But 358 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 4: you got to try to make it as difficult as 359 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 4: possible and hope that you look down and he has 360 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 4: a rough night. I think the first thing, Terry, you 361 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 4: can't spot him the easy ones. He's got to have 362 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 4: to work for him. And if you watched our game 363 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 4: there the first time, we spotted him a couple really 364 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 4: easy looks, and one of them is like a tipped 365 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 4: deflection where we went after the deflected ball. They got it, 366 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:46,719 Speaker 4: and he gets an easy one one of them day 367 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 4: they kind of relaxes and he loses them on a 368 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 4: dribble penetration sequence. 369 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: So you can't spot those. 370 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 4: And then he made a really tough one there at 371 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 4: the end of the game obviously where he got fouled. 372 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 4: So if he makes some tough ones, that's the case. 373 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 4: There's nothing you can do about it. You can't spot 374 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 4: them the easy ones. And I think your your awareness 375 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 4: to that's very important. 376 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 2: You're a one point lead with one fifteen to go 377 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 2: when trace an Eagle staff beat the thirty second buzzer 378 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 2: with a turnaround prayer from about twenty five feet that 379 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: gave them the lead. How do you deal with that 380 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 2: as a coach. When the opponent just hits a com 381 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 2: on type shot in that situation, it's one thing when 382 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 2: it happens four minutes into the game, but with the 383 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 2: game on the line, an absolute prayer goes in. Do 384 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 2: you just feel like we're jinkst. 385 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: Oh. 386 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 4: I think the way that you're supposed to deal with 387 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 4: it is to go win the next possession. That's that's 388 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 4: the truth. Uh, you go win the next possession. That's 389 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 4: what championship teams do. That's what like high high level 390 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 4: competitors do. Human nature is to go, oh man, you 391 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 4: know that ain't fair, that ain't right. But I think 392 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 4: the competitive nature, let's go win the next possession. Obviously 393 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 4: we we didn't win the next possession, but I hope 394 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 4: we've learned from that. It was something we talked about 395 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 4: in film in the next game, and I think in 396 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 4: the in the the following game as West Virginia, you know, 397 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 4: the game went back and forth like that, and but 398 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 4: we we kept executing on the next possession to get 399 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 4: good shots and ended up taking the go ahead lead 400 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 4: on our last second to last offensive possession. So we 401 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 4: showed some growth. Even three three days later after that game. 402 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 3: The last couple of games, you seem to be ramping 403 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 3: up a little bit of Jordi Rodriguez getting him some minutes. 404 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 3: Didn't score have the production in the Houston game, but 405 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 3: in the Baylor game he had two steals. He did 406 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 3: made some great defensive plays for the team. What's his 407 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 3: role going forward in these next several games trying to 408 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 3: close out Big twelve. 409 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 4: Well, I think some of the like the with Sean 410 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 4: going down and some of the other injury stuff that 411 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 4: we have, there's opportunity, and I thought you in the 412 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 4: Baylor game, he did a nice job of taking advantage 413 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 4: of that opportunity in some stretches. You know, he's gonna 414 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 4: get that opportunity again tomorrow. And you know, we're at 415 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 4: a point in college athletics now with the money that 416 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 4: you don't bring anybody in if you don't think they 417 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 4: can contribute to help. So somebody's gonna end up, you know, 418 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 4: out of the rotation. Unfortunately, Geordie was in that position 419 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 4: for a while. He had that We were trying to 420 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 4: give him a look there at the end of the 421 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 4: end of our non conference He was doing some really 422 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 4: good things in practice and he had a concussion in 423 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 4: our like the game before Clemson. Now I can't remember 424 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 4: who it was the game, but he had an Alabama 425 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 4: State and our second to last game before Christmas, and 426 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 4: he he had a bad concussion, you know, so much 427 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 4: so that he couldn't even be in the arena and 428 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 4: we played Clemson. 429 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: He couldn't. 430 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 4: Even we got back from Christmas break, he still couldn't practice. 431 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 4: So it took him a long time to get over that, 432 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 4: and he probably he found himself behind the eight ball 433 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 4: within the rotation. But now basketball is a long season 434 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 4: and now he's having some opportunity, so I think he's 435 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 4: capable of making the most of it. 436 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 3: Does he know, sorry, Dan, does he know when you 437 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 3: have guys that are on the bench that haven't played 438 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 3: in a while. Is it one of those things where 439 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 3: the coaches are going to him and say, hey, be 440 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 3: ready today, we may need you or he just the 441 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 3: game dictates whether they get in the game or not, 442 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 3: and you haven't really had a upfront conversation saying, hey, 443 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 3: you might play today, so be ready. 444 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 4: I think we try to be really honest as a 445 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 4: staff of you know, hey, you're on the outside looking 446 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 4: in right now, but you're you know, one. 447 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: Breakaway from being right there. You're professional. 448 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 4: Your job is to stay ready, and Jordi understands what 449 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 4: being a professional is because he was playing professional basketball 450 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 4: already in Spain. So you know, I don't think it's 451 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 4: about you don't want to tell a kid, hey, it's 452 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 4: about to happen, it's about to happen, and they go 453 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 4: five games and it hadn't happened. 454 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: I think the honesty is the best policy. 455 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 4: And we were very clear with Jority this is where 456 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 4: you are right now, that you need to continue to 457 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 4: work every day and you never know, and it's likely 458 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 4: that there'll be an opportunity before the season ends, and 459 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 4: I think he's found that opportunity here that last week 460 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 4: and this week. 461 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: It is halftime in the West Miller radio show, Morever 462 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 2: the Coach. When we continue on news radio seven hundred WLW, 463 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 2: the seven hundred WLW getting you set for the Bearcats 464 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 2: against the West Virginia Mountaineers tomorrow night at seven, our 465 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 2: radio coverage will started six point thirty. Coach, yesterday, you 466 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 2: did a joint news conference with Gisel James. It was 467 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 2: the first time that Gisel met with the media since 468 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 2: he returned to the team after being away from the 469 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 2: team for a few months for personal reasons. I thought 470 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 2: he was awesome. I think it really opened up a 471 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 2: window into his personality, how grateful he is to be 472 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 2: back with the school and what the program means to him. 473 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 2: I'm so glad that he did that because I think 474 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: Bearcat fans really got a sense of who Gisel James is. 475 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's uh, it's neat that other people get to 476 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 4: see it, because it's been really rewarding to see it 477 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 4: day to day. Like it's just the personal growth, uh, 478 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 4: from the time he got here till now, and then 479 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 4: the stuff that he's dealt with this offseason and what 480 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 4: he went through and watching how difficult that was, uh 481 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 4: for for all of us, but mostly for him, and 482 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 4: to see that he's come out on the other side 483 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 4: and even more mature, humble, just developed young man. 484 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: So I'm extremely proud of him. 485 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 3: People may or may not know you spend a lot 486 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 3: of time communicating with your with your team, whether it 487 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 3: be on the back of the bus, whether he would 488 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 3: get off the bus you're going to the hotel. I mean, 489 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 3: you're you're the one that you don't send your staff 490 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 3: to give a message to your team, like you you're 491 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 3: the one that stands in front of the program. Do 492 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,239 Speaker 3: you have times where you have to bring guys and 493 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 3: have one on ones with them and sit down and 494 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 3: just sort of get there head clear of some of 495 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 3: the junk that could be going on in the what 496 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 3: they're seeing and what they're hearing, to try to clear 497 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 3: them and get them focused back on the task at hand. 498 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all day, every day. 499 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 3: Is that. 500 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 4: You know, you guys travel with us and you're around 501 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 4: our team a lot in practice setting, so you see 502 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 4: the the team dynamic. But there's a ton of individual 503 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 4: one on one time with the guys and I think 504 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 4: our staff does a great job of that. But I 505 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 4: take a lot of pride in that. As a head coach, 506 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 4: I enjoy young people. So I enjoyed building the relationship, 507 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 4: being a part of their growth, obviously helping them succeed 508 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 4: on the floor FaceTime a listal Oh yeah, But and 509 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 4: you know it's different now than it was a handful 510 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 4: of years ago, just because there's so much more one 511 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 4: year type things. But it doesn't mean that you still 512 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 4: can't be impactful and build real quality relationships. And so 513 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 4: that's that's still a big part of what we believe 514 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 4: and what we try to do every day. 515 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 2: It's the social media age. Guys that age live on 516 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 2: their phone. You can tell all them don't look at it, 517 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 2: but they don't listen. They're gonna look at it. It's 518 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,959 Speaker 2: just what kids that age do. Did they come to 519 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 2: you and say, coach, you know this thing is being 520 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 2: said about me or I'm hearing this. You know, what 521 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 2: should I do about it? 522 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: You know, I think I learned last year. 523 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 4: Uh, you know, with last year's team during league play, 524 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 4: I'm not on social media, which has been this crazy 525 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 4: healthy experience. I'd urge everybody to do it. I mean, 526 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 4: you know, like you can choose not to participate, and 527 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 4: it's it's wildly healthy. But I'm not on social media. 528 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 4: I wasn't on social med during the year last year, 529 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 4: and it by the time I realized that it was 530 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 4: you know, a lot of damage had probably been done, 531 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 4: but I I realized how much it was affecting our players, 532 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 4: just that dynamic. Going into this year, we tried to 533 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 4: just hit it on the head right away. In the summertime. 534 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: We did. We talked about it as a team. 535 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 4: We've multiple times, We've had a lot of individual conversations 536 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 4: we actually brought people in to speak to the team 537 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 4: about it, and we continue to do that. So I 538 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 4: think this team has managed it better and that they're 539 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 4: more prepared. I think we've done a better job as 540 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 4: a staff there, I should say. 541 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 3: So. 542 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 4: Yes, the answers what we do. We don't wait for 543 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 4: them to tell us like we we deal with it. 544 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 4: And now I've kind of learned the last couple of years. 545 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 4: You can kind of spot it too. You can see 546 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 4: guys down in the dumps. But it's amazing fellas like 547 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 4: they are going to be on their phones and anybody 548 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 4: out there has children or you know, as around young 549 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 4: people like that. 550 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: It is. 551 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 4: It's an addiction. Uh, no doubt, it really is. And 552 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 4: our players are just like anybody else their age. They're 553 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 4: attached to it in every way and don't escape it 554 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 4: very well. 555 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 3: Kingston Flemings, AJ Debanza Buckets Peterson. It's it's You've got 556 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 3: three of the top five draft picks in this year's 557 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 3: NBA draft. You coming from North Carolina and being around 558 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 3: just a wealth and that whole region just a wealth 559 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 3: of NBA talent. Have you seen this many freshmen that 560 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 3: are coming and ready NBA ready in college basketball as 561 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 3: you've seen back in the day. 562 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: Not not in my time playing or coaching. 563 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 4: I'd actually I'll answer and then I'll turn the question 564 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 4: back on YouTube, Terry, because I've seen there's probably years 565 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 4: where there were a number of draftable freshmen that were 566 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 4: that draftable in the first round, that had that much promise. 567 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 4: But to have this many guys that are that draftable 568 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 4: and they're also that impactful because you know, you guys 569 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 4: know there's been years that they've drafted guys they they 570 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 4: might have just been okay as college players, but you 571 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 4: could just see that the natural gifts in the upside 572 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 4: was so high. I mean, these guys, they're they're the best, 573 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 4: some of the best players in the country, the most 574 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 4: impactful players on teams, and they're freshmen. And three you 575 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 4: mentioned snak Is on Houston's, but there's four that are 576 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 4: all projected lottery in this league and they're all really good, 577 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 4: really impacting winning. And then you go to the ACC 578 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 4: right now, I mean Caleb Wilson at North Carolina and 579 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 4: Booser at Duke I'm and mckel we played against Michel Brown. Mean, 580 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 4: there's a number of guys they're not just talents that 581 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 4: are going to be drafted. They're impactful players as fresh player. 582 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,719 Speaker 4: I can't think of a time since I've been involved 583 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 4: in it there's been a class like this at the 584 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 4: top of a class. 585 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: Maybe you can't. 586 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 3: I can only think of before the legal nil Kentucky 587 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 3: used to have about four or five guys every year. 588 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: They had a stretch. 589 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 3: Calib Perry had a stretch and I'm halfway joking, but 590 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 3: they had a stretch when they had John Wall and 591 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 3: Anthony Davis, Like, they had a stretch where they had 592 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 3: literally over a three year span, like fifteen NBA draft 593 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 3: picks that were all first round draft picks, and they 594 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 3: became like the best players in the NBA over that stretch. 595 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: It was possible they had a lot. I would run 596 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: at the one and he was kind of on the 597 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: front end of that, right. 598 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, But that many across college basketball that are that good. 599 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 4: Maybe there was two or three on those teams, but 600 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 4: I mean there's like seven eight guys that are all 601 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 4: going to be high picks, that are all having great 602 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 4: freshman years. 603 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 3: I can't think of a Tomlin Dan's crafty thumbs looked 604 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 3: up something real quick. 605 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 2: Patrick Ewing's class, Okay, with a so Ewing, Chris Mullen. 606 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 2: There were at least a couple more guys were there 607 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,479 Speaker 2: as many as now. I don't know. Back then they 608 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 2: couldn't leave. Yeah, but I mean Patrick Ewing as a 609 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 2: freshman was arguably the best player in the country. Chris 610 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 2: Mullen was probably top five, and I think there were 611 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 2: probably at least two or three more guys that were 612 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 2: really impactful that year. Right away was Stevie Thompson in 613 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 2: that year. No, he would have been a year or 614 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 2: two later, and he was I mean, I know you 615 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 2: loved him, God love, But as a freshman when I 616 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 2: was there, Stevie Thompson was great, but he wasn't that good. 617 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 2: He wasn't so the early eighties. You were at Syracuse 618 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 2: in the early ages. I was born in eighty three, 619 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 2: so other than the ESPN classics, it was hard for 620 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 2: me to participate. Remember they used to have the ESPN classes. Yeah, 621 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 2: and was a freshman before you were born. That's amazing. 622 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 4: There you go coached against him when he was at Georgetown, 623 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 4: got we beat Georgetown and full of years ago he 624 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 4: was the head coach. Yeah, which I remember. That's the 625 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 4: tallest handshake I've had. But I've gone back and watched 626 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 4: games on the ESPN Classic from those days that were 627 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 4: always that's really cool. 628 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: So but to appreciate. 629 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 2: A zone. 630 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 4: You know they're playing, but you know this, and I 631 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 4: know this might be a couple of years before that, 632 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 4: the Patrick Human era. But I love when they would 633 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 4: show the Pear Washington and the Guard Big East Tournament. 634 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: Playing after Dan's hard Here. 635 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 2: My all time favorite college player. I was a student. 636 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 2: Spin move on the back down, He'll come at you. 637 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 3: Do a little drop step, spin move, put the butt 638 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 3: on you shoot a fade away or shoot it up 639 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 3: at the rim, Yes, sir, I mean he was fat, yes, 640 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 3: and slow and the most player in the country. 641 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 2: Amazing, couldn't really shoot very well. 642 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: You couldn't steal the ball from him. But you know Flair, Yes, 643 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: New York famous. 644 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 2: You know, if you had to have a basket, even 645 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 2: though he couldn't shoot, he would score. He'd put it in. 646 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 2: Just tremendous. 647 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 3: The number one shot back then was jump hook. Whether 648 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 3: it was Ronnie Sykelee j R. Reid, Patrick Hewing, I 649 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 3: mean you named it. The jump hook was like a 650 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 3: big You couldn't be a big man in those leagues 651 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 3: because it was so physical without a jump hook, because 652 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 3: you couldn't get a regular shot off in the paint area. 653 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 2: All right, on that note, we'll take a time out 654 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 2: more with Coach Miller when we continue. This is the 655 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 2: West Miller Radio Show. I'm the home of the Cats. 656 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 2: News Radio seven hundred WLW. We are back in the studio. 657 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 2: It's the West Miler Radio Show here on news radio 658 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 2: seven hundred WLW. If you are just tuning in, We're 659 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 2: in the studio for the second week in a row. 660 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 2: We expect to be here next week as well, and 661 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 2: then we hope be back at the original Montgomery in 662 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 2: They've been doing some renovations there, expect to be done 663 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 2: relatively soon, so hopefully we'll be back at the end 664 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 2: with all of you in a couple of weeks. We're 665 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 2: keeping our eye on a big twelve game right now 666 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 2: that's going on between Houston and UCF. Looks like the 667 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 2: nationally ranked Cougars are in control at home, where they 668 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 2: have not lost in their last sixteen games. UCF coming 669 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 2: to town though, on Sunday, so the Bearcats have West 670 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 2: Virginia tomorrow night UCF on Sunday afternoon. Do you view 671 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 2: UCF as one of the surprise teams in college basketball 672 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 2: this year. 673 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 4: Coach, I do, yeah, absolutely, do you know? They don't 674 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 4: have a returning player from last year and a lot 675 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 4: of these guys in the portal were guys that you 676 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 4: know that we all were looking at, and they've seemed 677 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 4: to kind of have the right mix, and you know, 678 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 4: they've done a really good job. 679 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: They play with some depth. 680 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 4: I was very impressed and we were getting ready for 681 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 4: their last game. 682 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 3: Is there a science to going to the portal and 683 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 3: picking out the roster that you need knowing that you 684 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 3: only have an x amount of time You've bobly been 685 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 3: looking at the film generated from your staff, but once 686 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 3: they hit the portal and once you're ready to start shopping, 687 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 3: you have a small amount of time because you competing 688 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 3: against the nation. 689 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think nobody liked. 690 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 4: None of the people that like doing it the right 691 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 4: way like this, But waiting til the last minute to 692 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 4: work at it is probably the biggest mistake you can make. 693 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 4: You got to be working at it right now, and 694 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 4: you have to be you know, within the rules. But 695 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 4: what are the rules anyway, But within whatever the rules 696 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 4: they this week they have, you know, you. 697 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: Have to be working at that year round. 698 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 4: I think that's why so many so many people now 699 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 4: have hired you know, player personnel roles. 700 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: They can focus on just that so they. 701 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 4: Can work at it all year long and not have 702 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 4: to focus on the coaching side, which I think you'll 703 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 4: continue to see that happen. 704 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 3: Are you a proponent of pregame handshakes instead of postgame handshakes? 705 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't everybody like laughs about all the 706 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 4: recruiting going on, you know, interpersonally when you're playing other 707 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 4: teams that like ninety that's like a point one percent 708 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 4: of it. What's going on behind the scenes, you know, 709 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 4: through agents and you know, third parties and all that 710 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 4: kind of stuff. 711 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: So I don't get too caught up in all that. 712 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 4: The stuff that's frustrating is when you hear stuff in 713 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 4: January is already done to another school. Yeah, you know, 714 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 4: this school has already got a commitment for this for 715 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 4: a kid playing somewhere else, And there's a lot of 716 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 4: that going on in the last couple of years. In 717 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 4: my position, you kind of go, yeah, right, that's just 718 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 4: people talking, and then that kid ends up at that school, 719 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 4: you know, for that number that was thrown out there 720 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 4: back in January. That's not good for the game, and 721 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 4: so we have to figure out how to fix all that. 722 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 4: But you mentioned the science to it, I think you 723 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 4: have to be working at it year round. You have 724 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 4: to be ready because if you're trying to figure it 725 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 4: out in that two three day period when the portal opens, 726 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 4: I think you're going to be in some trouble. 727 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 2: With your GM. Now in Corey Evans, do you have 728 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 2: a extensive database on every player in the country, essentially, 729 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 2: maybe beyond what you've had before. 730 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if i'd call it a database, 731 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 4: but I think the organization that he's provided has been 732 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 4: significant and we're in a different place today than we 733 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,720 Speaker 4: were at any point the last couple of years. 734 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:37,959 Speaker 1: And it's not just him. 735 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 4: He's also utilized our assistant coaches and our staff members 736 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 4: to just organize the whole thing. But one person, that's 737 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 4: all they're thinking about. I think has been helpful for us, 738 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 4: and we're not doing anything this groundbreaking. 739 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 1: I think everybody's in that direction. Now. 740 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 3: Your defense has been consistently in the top ten in 741 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 3: the just Defensive Efficiency all season long. What has been 742 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 3: the issue with getting consistent offensive looks? 743 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: Well? 744 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:10,399 Speaker 4: I think it's actually pretty simple. It doesn't mean it's 745 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 4: simple if it was simple, to. 746 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: Mean it's easy, it's simple. 747 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, it's pretty simple, Terry. I think for us, 748 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 4: it first starts with our turnover percentage and taking care 749 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 4: of the ball. We've just had moments, stretches and games 750 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 4: where we don't take care of the ball and we 751 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 4: turn it over, and sometimes they don't even count as turnovers, 752 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 4: but they're the kind of shots that lead like turnovers, 753 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,240 Speaker 4: and when you don't get a shot on a possession, 754 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 4: that's going to destroy your offensive efficiency and your overall offense. 755 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: You know. 756 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 4: The second thing is is shot selection and playing to 757 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 4: our individual strengths. I think when we've done that, we've 758 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 4: been pretty dang good. 759 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 1: Yea. 760 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 4: When we've veered from that, even in short burst, those 761 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 4: have been really bad stretches. Again, we haven't had many 762 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 4: games were I mean, I think he gets away from 763 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 4: us at Houston in the second half. I think in 764 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,720 Speaker 4: the last five minutes at Arizona it gets away. Outside 765 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 4: of those two games, there hasn't been a game in 766 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,399 Speaker 4: the last five minutes. We weren't in position to win 767 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 4: the whole year. So you're talking about a three or 768 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 4: four minute segment where you take bat shots or turn 769 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 4: it over. That happens once in a game, that's really difficult. 770 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 4: It happens twice in the game. It's really difficult. So 771 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 4: it's been more segments because there's also been great segments offensively. 772 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 4: So the next thing I'd say is it's just been 773 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 4: some inconsistency. 774 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 1: Last year. 775 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,280 Speaker 4: Listen, we got in the league play after Connor Hickman's injury, 776 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 4: and scoring was difficult matter what we did. 777 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 1: It was difficult to put the ball in the whole. 778 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was hard. That was hard because he was 779 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 4: a guy that made us different last year. But when 780 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 4: he got hurt, scoring was difficult. It didn't matter what 781 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 4: we did. This year, we've had great sequences scoring the 782 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 4: ball in every game we played. You know, we've had 783 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 4: ten ozer runs all the time. I don't think we 784 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 4: had a ten o run in the league play last year. 785 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 4: I mean, so, it's not the inability to be good offensively, 786 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 4: it's doing it consistently, taking care of the ball and 787 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 4: staying within who we are as players. 788 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 2: Baylor has a guy who is a first round NBA 789 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 2: draft pick. Alabama's playing a guy who spent several years 790 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 2: in the G League. Player who's played in the NBA 791 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 2: now has petitioned the NCAA to try to get eligibility back. 792 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,280 Speaker 2: Did you guys have a meeting basically to say, all right, 793 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,399 Speaker 2: other coaches are doing it. Is there anybody out there 794 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 2: that we should be considering? 795 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: Good question. 796 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, we talk like this in the office every day 797 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 4: as a staff, not necessarily exactly the way you're saying 798 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 4: is what are we missing here? 799 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 1: Like who's available that we don't know about? Or what 800 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,240 Speaker 1: loophole have we have we not thought about? 801 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 4: Because you know, I wish there was some rules and 802 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,240 Speaker 4: guidelines that was just you knew what it was. But listen, 803 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 4: we would all do what Louisville's done with the kid 804 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 4: they took long London. I can't remember his name. We 805 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 4: recruited him like seven years ago, right, but you know, 806 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 4: or what Baylor did, like we would all do things 807 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 4: like that if we knew they were legal. We might 808 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 4: not all agree to do that if we voted for 809 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 4: what's best for the game. But you're trying to figure 810 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 4: out what those edges are. 811 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 1: You know. 812 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 4: Shoot, I was sitting here going can we get John 813 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 4: Newman and Landers KNOLLI? 814 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 1: Right, David George, can they come back and play like. 815 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 2: You know? 816 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 4: But no, We're always looking for the edge, and when 817 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 4: somebody else gets it and you hadn't, you didn't know 818 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 4: as possible, it is frustrated. 819 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 3: What's one of the things that you want to see 820 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 3: tomorrow besides the W versus West Virginia. 821 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 4: Man, I want to see us play with incredible competitive energy, like. 822 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 1: You know. 823 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 4: You can see that defensively always. You can see it 824 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 4: with activity like how quick you are to the basketball, 825 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 4: whether it's like deflected plays or steals or block You 826 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 4: can see it with rebounding right with offensive and defensive rebounding. 827 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,760 Speaker 4: You can see a pop in people's step. You know, 828 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 4: I don't care if we got I said this to 829 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 4: the team Tod. I said, guys, I don't care if 830 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,240 Speaker 4: we got to play Gisel at center. It don't matter. 831 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 4: Let's just let's just go out there and play our 832 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 4: hearts out. That that's that's what it's got to be about. 833 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 4: And in this group's been really resilient and continue to 834 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 4: try to find ways. 835 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 1: So I'm proud of that. But that that's what I 836 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 1: want to see. 837 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 4: If, of course, the goal is to win the game, 838 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 4: and that that that results very important to. 839 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 2: West Virginia is number three sixty one in the country 840 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 2: in adjusted tempo. How does that affect you, guys. 841 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 4: Well, I think and Jalen Stowe did a great job. 842 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 4: When he's presenting the scout. You know they're not going 843 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 4: to be a team that pushes. You know, you're getting 844 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 4: ready for a lot of these games and sometimes the 845 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 4: players feel like it's a broken record in the scout 846 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 4: and report is the assistant coach presenting the scouts going, hey, guys, 847 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 4: we have to get back on defense because they run. 848 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 4: And Jalen did a great job today he said, hey, 849 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 4: this is not the fastest team in our league in 850 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 4: pushing the pace, but you can't have a possession you 851 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 4: relax and give them an easy one because they will 852 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 4: selectively run even though their pace over the course of 853 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 4: the game is slower as you mentioned with the analytics, 854 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 4: but you can't spot them an easy one because they 855 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 4: will run a little bit. Or we talked about Huff 856 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 4: and some of the Esagen like some of these other 857 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 4: guys will get a good look from three when you 858 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 4: don't get back. So we got to still be really 859 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 4: good as if they are pushing the pace all the time, 860 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 4: and when our defense is ready and we're in a 861 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 4: stance and we're engaged before the possession starts, I think 862 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 4: we're at our best, and so we will focus on 863 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,280 Speaker 4: our transition game, even though they might not be pushing. 864 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 4: I think for us all year, our best offense has 865 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,240 Speaker 4: been defense to offense, and so that'll be really important. 866 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 4: Can we convert deffensive possessions to offensive possessions? 867 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 1: Last game of Staffa went out with the foot injury. 868 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 3: Uh, he may or may not play, So we're just 869 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 3: gonna push that off the table right there. Are you 870 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,959 Speaker 3: prepared to have different lineups because you had a different 871 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,359 Speaker 3: lineup that came in the game when he went out 872 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 3: with that injury. You played a smaller temple, a smaller 873 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,959 Speaker 3: lineup on the on the floor, and you got after 874 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 3: it more with the smaller lineup. Are you prepared to 875 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,800 Speaker 3: have multiple lineups that either West Virginia has not seen 876 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 3: or ones that you just think will work good against 877 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 3: West Virginia. You don't have to give me those lineups. 878 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 4: But yes, I think again, I think that this year's 879 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,760 Speaker 4: trun so much at his personnel wise that we're probably 880 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 4: more prepared than ever to play multiple lineups, man, I do. 881 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 4: I do hope Ustafa will play right. That'll that'll be 882 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 4: at its best for us, And I think he'll give 883 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,320 Speaker 4: it a go. I think he'll try. He wants to play. 884 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:56,879 Speaker 4: I don't think we'll play Gisel at center in West Virginia, 885 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 4: but if we have to, you know, we'll do whatever 886 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 4: we have to do to compete. I think that's what 887 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 4: be in Cincinnati Bearcats about could we see. 888 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,399 Speaker 3: Five guards or four forward center guard on the floor 889 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:07,800 Speaker 3: at once? 890 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 4: Well, we got so many guys heard at the four positions. 891 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 4: Do we have four of them? You know that type 892 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 4: of thing. But no, I think we've played three guards 893 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 4: a lot this year. That's not nothing crazy to say. 894 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 4: I think we don't want to play four in our league. 895 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 4: That's we've had to do that a couple of times, 896 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 4: not by choice. 897 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 3: And unless you got some newmans out there, that's he 898 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 3: and a guard. Yeah, you know he's six six and 899 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 3: you know he's he's a wing. But to play three 900 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 3: true guard, four true guards, that's a really hard way 901 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 3: to play in the Big twelve and be successful because 902 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 3: you're going to sacrifice so much rebounding physicality, ability to 903 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 3: cover ground defensively, like that's going to be difficult. 904 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,800 Speaker 2: Houston leeds uc F by thirty with two and a 905 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 2: half minutes to go. In that game, the Cougar's about 906 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,479 Speaker 2: to win for the forty ninth time in the last 907 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,839 Speaker 2: fifty one home games. They are hard to beat at 908 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,359 Speaker 2: the Fertida Center. Bearcats have been hard to beat at 909 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 2: home this year as well. Cincinnati eleven and two at home. 910 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 2: The Bearcat's home tomorrow night against West Virginia. Our pregame 911 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 2: coverage will begin at six point thirty till then. For 912 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 2: Terry Nelson and Coach Miller, I'm Dan Hord. Thanks for 913 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 2: tuning in. You've been listening to the West Miller Radio 914 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 2: Show on News Radio seven hundred WLW.