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Speaker 2: Kjarff, one of my buddies, texted me today, would you

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Speaker 2: rather be on defense trying to protect a four point

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Speaker 2: lead from your five yard line last play of the

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Speaker 2: game for the Rams? Would you rather have the lead

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Speaker 2: or excuse me, be behind and have to score a

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Speaker 2: touchdown from the five yard line? So who do you

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Speaker 2: think we've texted to get some stats on this.

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Speaker 3: Bar the way with the man that owns the nerd machine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course we texted Mark James. He wrote back

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Speaker 2: right away. Now Hugh Millen has written back. He has

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Speaker 2: done the research and he says, since twoenty twenty, we

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Speaker 2: want fourth down, meaning you gotta get the touchdown right

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Speaker 2: fourth down on exactly the five yard line. There's been

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Speaker 2: forty eight play run in the NFL from exactly the

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Speaker 2: five yard line on fourth down. Now, Jackson before we

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Speaker 2: get to this number here, Dick, you said that you'd

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Speaker 2: rather be on offense. Yes, I said I'd rather be

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Speaker 2: on offense. Jackson, you said you'd rather be on defense.

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Speaker 4: Correct.

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Speaker 2: Okay, how many of those forty eight plays resulted in touchdowns?

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Speaker 2: The answer is thirty three percent. Now thirty three percent.

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Speaker 2: The defense is getting a stop sixty seven percent of

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Speaker 2: the time from the five yard line.

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Speaker 3: So does that surprising change your answer at all? That's

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Speaker 3: surprising to me.

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Speaker 4: You know, I had the caveat that said, if we

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Speaker 4: had not had that situation all game, and I had

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Speaker 4: something in my back pocket that I knew was gonna work,

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Speaker 4: That's why I wanted to pick the offense.

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Speaker 3: But I could totally understand Jackson's point of view.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you're clearly a better defensive team than you

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Speaker 4: are on offensive team, and we hope that we're a

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Speaker 4: better defensive team than the Rams aren't offensive team, although

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Speaker 4: the last game certainly did not reflect that, so right,

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think it A lot of it has soon.

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Speaker 4: I was talking to coach about this off the air too.

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Speaker 4: A lot of it has to do with what type

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Speaker 4: of game is it? I mean, now, you said it

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Speaker 4: was twenty four to twenty, so it's kind of right

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Speaker 4: in the middle. I mean, I would be much more

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Speaker 4: convinced that my offense was going to score if it

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Speaker 4: was a thirty five to thirty one game than it

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Speaker 4: was a fourteen to six point.

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Speaker 3: That's a good point, dick, Yeah, But it's twenty four

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Speaker 3: to twenty, so it's right back in. That was the question.

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Speaker 5: I think the other part of that is of the

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Speaker 5: forty eight, how many of them are going against the

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Speaker 5: number one defense in the NFL. Right, that's obviously another

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Speaker 5: huge factor in this. But now I'm I mean, I'm

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Speaker 5: I'm I'm confident in my pick.

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Speaker 2: Still, Yeah, I just think again, this this this game,

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Speaker 2: and I'm dying to get to Sunday at three thirty

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Speaker 2: to find out immediately what Sean McVay is going to

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Speaker 2: do with Mike McDonald's defense. I mean, I expect, and

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Speaker 2: I know I think all of us do. I expect

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Speaker 2: the defense to play way better to start this game

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Speaker 2: than they did on that Thursday night game. I mean, look,

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Speaker 2: I gave you the numbers earlier today. After the third quarter,

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Speaker 2: the Rams already had four hundred and five yards of

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter, they were up to four to ninety. Because

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Speaker 2: they began the fourth quarter with an eighty five yard

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Speaker 2: special teams played a massive role in that game, Like

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Speaker 2: massive role. Can we count on that again? Can we

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Speaker 2: count on the Rams missing a field goal? Can we

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Speaker 2: count in Rashid Shaheed returning a kick for a touchdown?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you gotta go one of two phases. Your

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Speaker 2: Well he didn't say crack and said something you can't say.

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Speaker 2: On the end, they played like ass in that game.

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Speaker 2: So I love the fact that I think both coaches

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Speaker 3: Motivated Dick by that last game.

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Speaker 2: The Rams are motivated because they threw it away, and

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Speaker 3: For the first three quarters in that game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I like how the the Seahawks defense

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Speaker 3: The next drive they had to sell for field goals.

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Speaker 4: So if you're gonna tell me after three drives the

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Speaker 3: Do you remember, though the first quarter what the box

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Speaker 2: They had one hundred and sixty three yards in the

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Speaker 2: first quarters. That's not good enough. They're not driving the

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm not gonna put up with that. I mean, look,

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Speaker 4: Well you asked about the special teams, Yes, and I

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Speaker 4: way worse than the Niners special teams wise. So yet,

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Speaker 4: of course I'm not gonna predict Rashid Shahid to bust

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Speaker 3: Five forty or he's going.

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Speaker 4: To get to the thirty five plus more times than

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Speaker 4: think the Seahawks are going to have excellent field position

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Speaker 2: I mean, they have an advantage on special teams, no

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Speaker 2: doubt about it, because nobody has a Rashid Shaheed right now,

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, with when twenty two gets the ball in

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Speaker 2: We're not thinking about the year on Sunday. This is

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Speaker 2: him thirty carries, right, that's a lot, But can you

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Speaker 2: get mid twenties. Yes, absolutely, And if he gets hurt,

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Speaker 2: so I'm not worried about that. But I'm not worried

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Speaker 2: All I'm worried about is him digging in for four

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Speaker 4: Yes, and he's only done it twice since his rookie year,

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Speaker 4: where he's had twenty more carries. But remember his rookie year,

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Speaker 4: he had six games where he carried the ball twenty

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Speaker 3: And then they stopped doing it.

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Speaker 4: And then they stopped doing it, and I think we

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Speaker 3: He just turned twenty five years of age. I'm not

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Speaker 4: He's still a young running back, not not even the

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Speaker 3: Yet he's just turned twenty five.

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Speaker 2: I just wonder what the Rams do. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 2: an oblique injury. Can he get the ball down? Feel

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Speaker 2: Old the downfield passes. Millin's talked about this the last

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Speaker 2: I would absolutely take away the run and make that

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Speaker 4: I was stunned with how Robert Sala in back to

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I just didn't understand it.

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Speaker 4: I was like, you're just begging the Seahawks to hand

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Speaker 4: the ball off to Ken Walker and he just destroyed them.

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Speaker 2: See this is the analysis that you get when you

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Speaker 2: tune into this radio show. Guys, nobody in town I

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Speaker 3: You kid me, nobody can do this, all right?

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Speaker 2: Rick Neuheisel is gonna join us in about eight or

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Speaker 2: nine minutes from now. We got to get Rick thoughts

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Speaker 2: Seahawk game, his thoughts on Indiana's win, all that and more.

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Speaker 2: But we're gonna definitely get a lot of a lot

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Speaker 2: of reaction from Rick to the Seahawk game. Coming up

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Speaker 2: on Sunday, Hooper Cup will join us. We're gonna hear

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Speaker 2: professional big mouth sports talk radio barker from LA. We'll

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Speaker 2: join us with this perspective from Los Angeles. The last

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Speaker 2: guy we had on talking about the Rams yesterday, Petros

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Speaker 2: So he doesn't care about the game at all.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't care about the Rams.

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Speaker 2: You said, more people in LA are concerned about Kyle

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Speaker 2: Tucker's contract than they are the Rams game with the

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Speaker 3: We'll see if Scott kapla degrees.

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Speaker 2: All right back here at the five twenty bar and grill,

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Speaker 2: our final visit of the year.

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Speaker 3: That's twenty five college football season.

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Speaker 2: By the way, our next guest, who I'm sure is

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Speaker 2: just relieved to be done with us and moving on

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Speaker 2: for another season. Now we can go coachs UFL team.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the Renegades really dive into that. But

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Speaker 2: here he is, courtesy a Taco Time, our friend, Rick

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Speaker 2: new Heisl, coach, how are you man?

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Speaker 3: What's going on?

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Speaker 7: Here's in my eyes that this is our final segment

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Speaker 7: of the year. What a college football season it was.

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Speaker 7: And if the two of you don't meet me in

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Speaker 7: Say this field passes. Part of the deal. Golf, golf.

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Speaker 7: An incredible I'm thinking back in my life when what

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Speaker 7: This run was off the charts. So to me, rare

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Speaker 7: we haven't seen anything.

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Speaker 3: Like this, Coach.

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Speaker 4: Over thirty million people watch the game. It was the

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Speaker 4: why are we in an era right now where more

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Speaker 7: Well, the story was unlike anything anybody'd ever seen. This

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, whether you're pissed off or whether you're happy,

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Speaker 3: But Rick new Heisl's with us and Rick.

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Speaker 2: I do wonder if you're the Vegas Raiders and you're

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Speaker 7: What test has any passed? I mean, he got rocked

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Speaker 7: I mean he's on the field and he's in Spytech

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Speaker 3: Rick.

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Speaker 4: We had the college football equivalent of hell freezing over

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Over?

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Speaker 7: Well, here's the SEC's problem. It got so fun in

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Speaker 3: Well, Rick New has it with us Rick.

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Speaker 2: The sports guys robbed us of a world series, teased

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Speaker 3: Do you know McDonald and McVeigh very well, if at all.

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Speaker 7: Denver's got that kind of defense. It would not shock

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Speaker 2: Rick Neuheisel, great stuff, man, appreciate everything you do for

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Speaker 7: Can't wait for it to get here again, and you

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Speaker 7: know what it will, It'll be here before we know it. Well,

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Speaker 7: you guys to take care and thanks for everything.

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Speaker 3: Rick. When does your season start? Actually?

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Speaker 7: First game March twenty eighth against the Houston Gamblers Kevin

441
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Speaker 7: Kevin someone, the head coach of the Gamblers, and they're

442
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Speaker 7: coming to Dallas and Frisco in the soccer stadium, eleven

443
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Speaker 7: thousand strong, ready to just get after their ass. You guys,

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Speaker 7: come and be a part of that.

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Speaker 3: We'll get it. I love it in spring and Dallas

446
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Speaker 3: better than the spring in Seattle. I'll tell you that,

447
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Speaker 3: no doubt. Great stuff. Rick, appreciate this.

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Speaker 7: We'll talk soon, all right, see you boys, take care,

449
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Speaker 7: right you?

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Speaker 3: Bet? Rick new eisol with us on the radio show.

451
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Speaker 2: He's gonna run off and coach a UFL football team

452
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Speaker 2: over the summer and then go back to his TV

453
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Speaker 2: duties coming it up in September. I mean, he's kind

454
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Speaker 2: of like he makes total sense about how this thing

455
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Speaker 2: is gonna go on Sunday, because just when you think

456
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Speaker 2: you know what is going to happen, you expect a

457
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Speaker 2: certain type of game, Right, we get seventeen to thirteen?

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, someday does that kind of feel like that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny because normally I have a strong feeling

460
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Speaker 4: one way or the other of what type of game

461
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Speaker 4: we're gonna have. Yeah, I don't have any idea if

462
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Speaker 4: this is gonna be a wide open game or kind

463
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Speaker 4: of a slow down. I always felt like the games

464
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Speaker 4: against San Francisco were gonna be super low scoring, conservative, Yes.

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Speaker 3: But this one I got no idea.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I could just as easily see twenty to

467
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Speaker 4: seventeen as I could see thirty seven thirty three.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think the Hawks wanted to be a lower

469
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Speaker 3: scoring game. I would agree with that. They want to

470
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Speaker 3: be a run game. They wanted to be lower scoring.

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Speaker 2: They want to be able to be right there in

472
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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter and not have to match Matt Stafford,

473
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Speaker 2: not with an injured quarterback, and not with an offense that,

474
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Speaker 2: let's face it, hasn't been performing at a great level.

475
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, he was on I think today

476
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Speaker 2: it was, and he was talking about Jackson Smith and Jigma.

477
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Speaker 2: I mean, you look at his numbers over like the

478
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Speaker 2: last five or six games, and he is he has

479
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Speaker 2: slowed down considerably.

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Speaker 4: Man.

481
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Speaker 2: And there's a lot of people that actually think that

482
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Speaker 2: Pukinnakua should have won the Offensive Player of the Year

483
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Speaker 2: over Jackson Smith and Jigba, and I understand it. I mean,

484
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Speaker 2: Pukinakua is the highest graded player by Pro Football Focus

485
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Speaker 2: this year. I mean, he was a monster in PFF's perspective.

486
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Speaker 2: But I'm going back and looking at what Puka Akua

487
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Speaker 2: has done in the month of December. The guy's got

488
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Speaker 2: one touchdown in his last four games because he had

489
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Speaker 2: our two actually because he had one of the playoff game,

490
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Speaker 2: right these guy's got one. He's got two touchdowns since

491
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Speaker 2: the seventh of December against Atlanta and he's only got

492
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Speaker 2: the one hundred yard day since then, So his numbers

493
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Speaker 2: have changed dramatically. They're not pushing the ball downfield the

494
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Speaker 2: way that they were earlier in the year. I think

495
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Speaker 2: the Hawks would love this to be a twenty seventeen

496
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Speaker 2: type game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And like coach Holmgren said, he said, the number

498
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Speaker 4: one way to attack the Rams is via the pass.

499
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Speaker 4: He doesn't like their secondary and you know, Sam Darnold

500
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Speaker 4: has got to be ripping it and he should throw

501
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Speaker 4: in that thirty to thirty five range in this game

502
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Speaker 4: to rest ken Walker a little bit. And also, you

503
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Speaker 4: just got to be varied in your offense. You didn't

504
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Speaker 4: have to be varied at all. Against San Francisco. In

505
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Speaker 4: the last two games, you could just do one thing

506
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Speaker 4: and that's all you need to do. You're gonna have

507
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Speaker 4: to be balanced this week.

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Speaker 2: The first game was a little different than the second

509
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Speaker 2: game because the first game was still a ten point

510
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Speaker 2: game in the fourth quarter. It wasn't a blowout like

511
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Speaker 2: they had to play four cours, right, but we didn't

512
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Speaker 2: run the ball. Now, no, they didn't do anything.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they scored thirteen points, right, but they should

514
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Speaker 4: have scored twenty six. That's the first game we did pass.

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Speaker 2: People keep forgetting that they missed two field goals. They

516
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Speaker 2: had first and goal at the one where they absolutely

517
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Speaker 2: should have scored. I mean, that was a better offensive game,

518
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Speaker 2: I think than the scoreboard sets against the Niners in

519
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Speaker 2: Week eighteen. But it was a fourth quarter game. They

520
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Speaker 2: weren't taking the game off. I mean, obviously the second

521
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Speaker 2: game they're pulling guy. I mean, Darnold came out, you

522
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Speaker 2: know what, nine minutes to go in the fourth quarter

523
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Speaker 2: whatever it was, and they were kind of shutting her

524
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Speaker 2: down after the first half. But man, dude, things that

525
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Speaker 2: have mattered before for this franchise have got a matter

526
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Speaker 2: on Sunday. Home field's got to matter, right, defense has

527
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Speaker 2: got a matter. Twelfth Man's gotta matter. You know, you

528
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Speaker 2: don't want to go on the air, go on social

529
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Speaker 2: media and remind people about the basic stuff. But be

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Speaker 2: loud in the huddle, you know, be loud when they're

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Speaker 2: leaving the sideline. Don't don't wait until the balls is

532
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Speaker 2: on a scrimmage and they're snapping it. Give these guys

533
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Speaker 2: a problem inside the huddle. And if you watch the

534
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Speaker 2: Bears game last weekend, you could see Dick that Matt

535
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Speaker 2: Stafford was having problems hearing McVeigh in his helmet in

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Speaker 2: the huddle at Soldier Field.

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Speaker 3: And I guarantee it's gonna be louder here than it

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Speaker 3: was there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought the one thing that the Twelves did

540
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Speaker 4: a lot better last week than they did in the

541
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Speaker 4: regular season was getting louder earlier. That decibel meter got

542
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Speaker 4: up there to one ten, one eleven, one twelve when

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Speaker 4: they were in the huddle instead of waiting, and a

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Speaker 4: lot a lot of times it's very quiet until they

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Speaker 4: get to the line of scrimmage. Sometimes you gotta wait

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Speaker 4: until somebody even starts audibling, and then it gets loud.

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Speaker 4: So they were much better last week and they're just

548
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Speaker 4: gonna be on their ear this week.

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Speaker 2: Do it from the jump, guys, let's go come on,

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Speaker 2: all right, we're gonna break Cooper Cup.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna hear a few minutes from Cooper Cup.

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553
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Speaker 2: talk radio loudmouth my buddy, so I can say that

554
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Speaker 2: he's actually a good dude. He's gonna join us coming

555
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Speaker 2: up at six o'clock and tell us what the vibe

556
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Speaker 2: is like in La. He's with ESPN seven to ten

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Speaker 2: down there. He'll join us at six on ninety three

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Speaker 2: here today. Scott Kaplan's gonna join us from seven ten

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Speaker 2: ESPN LA give us his thoughts on the Rams Seahawks

577
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Speaker 2: on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: But Cooper cup Man, how about.

579
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Speaker 2: This first year is a Seahawk and he's going to

580
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Speaker 2: play his old team in the conference title game.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's crazy how that works out right.

582
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Speaker 2: We had a chance to hear him today for those

583
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Speaker 2: that miss Cooper cupp press conference with the media, starting

584
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Speaker 2: off by talking about his admiration and his relationship for

585
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Speaker 2: all those years with Matt Stafford.

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Speaker 10: Obviously a great challenge. Anytime you're on the field playing

587
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 10: against Matthew Stafford, it's uncanny, it's it's it's pretty amazing.

588
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 10: He's obviously got an incredible ability to do it. He's

589
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Speaker 10: been doing it for a long time and I don't

590
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Speaker 10: know what like this year. It seems like you watched

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Speaker 10: the tape. I mean, he's getting a little aggressive and

592
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Speaker 10: he's egregious how many these throws that he's got on tape.

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Speaker 10: But it's it's impressive. He's he's a obviously he's I mean,

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Speaker 10: in my book, he's one of the best ever ever

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Speaker 10: played the position. Everyone else can have their opinions on it,

596
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Speaker 10: but as someone that was in the room with him,

597
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Speaker 10: on the field with him, it's hard to play at

598
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Speaker 10: a higher level than than he's capable of playing at

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Speaker 10: and it's shown to do over and over again.

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Speaker 8: Obviously, you played with Pok and Cool for a couple

601
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Speaker 8: of years, played with Jackson now. Stylistically they seem quite

602
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Speaker 8: a bit different. But I don't know if that's accurate

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Speaker 8: or what you kind of how you kind of compare

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Speaker 8: those guys a little bit in terms of what their

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Speaker 8: styles are.

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Speaker 6: And kind of how they are.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's tough.

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Speaker 10: I mean, you got and there's gonna be certainly gonna

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Speaker 10: be similarities. I've talked earlier this year about some of

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Speaker 10: the similarities that they play with. But at the end

611
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Speaker 10: of the day, you know, football is and art form,

612
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Speaker 10: and you got guys that you know try to emulate

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Speaker 10: and pull tools and things like that, but everyone does

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Speaker 10: it in their own way. And and they both found

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Speaker 10: ways to be successful and be productive. And you know,

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Speaker 10: and I said, in their own with with their own path,

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Speaker 10: with their own tools, with the own their own talents

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Speaker 10: and the and the gifts that they've got. And yeah,

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Speaker 10: so's it's hard to compare. Comparing those guys just is tough,

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Speaker 10: but obviously very good football players in their own right

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Speaker 10: and doing some really good things.

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Speaker 11: The Rams seem to be really aggressive in the secondary

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Speaker 11: and jumping routes. You know, are there ways to kind

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Speaker 11: of take advantage of their aggression.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, but it's all I mean, it's all situational's all.

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Speaker 10: There's times for it. You know, there's times that they're soft.

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Speaker 10: There's times that they know they want to be a

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Speaker 10: little more aggressive on the backum there where there's pressure

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Speaker 10: and you know, playing with the hot post player and

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Speaker 10: things like that. So it's all about the scheme and

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Speaker 10: how they're trying to do things, you know, having understand

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Speaker 10: having an understanding of that's important. I think offensively, when

633
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Speaker 10: they're gonna be more apps to jump routes and overlap

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Speaker 10: with each other and and when they're gonna be a

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Speaker 10: little bit softer and so you know, it's something that

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Speaker 10: they do a good job mixing up and something we've

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Speaker 10: definitely got planned for.

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Speaker 11: Can you think back to you know, OTA's training camp

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Speaker 11: when Mike McDonald would have you in his office and

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Speaker 11: you're he's passing along like thoughts he had on defense

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Speaker 11: and how to attack different schemes. How much of those

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Speaker 11: conversations have then come to fruition and during the season.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean it does. It's like it's a little

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Speaker 10: nuggets here and there, you know, like a little opportunities

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Speaker 10: to see where you know, things that he's talked about of,

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Speaker 10: you know, overlap and just pieces that you know stick

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Speaker 10: with you. It's hard to go through a conversation with

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Speaker 10: Mike with all the intricacy and all the understanding he

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Speaker 10: has defensively and try to grasp and absorb all of it,

650
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Speaker 10: but grabbing you able to grab little things here and there.

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Speaker 10: That's like, man, this is I know that this is

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Speaker 10: a this is a way to challenge this coverage match.

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Speaker 10: You know, this is a way to challenge What are

654
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Speaker 10: the depths that these rules change, you know for corners

655
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Speaker 10: and safeties, When are they gonna pass things, when are

656
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 10: they gonna carry him? What can I do to put

657
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 10: guys in conflict? Those are things that stick with you

658
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:09,479
Speaker 10: and make the difference.

659
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Speaker 3: Little details, son of a bitch as he's smart.

660
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm just thinking about how great it

661
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 2: be to get Hugh and Cooper Cup in the same

662
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 2: room at the same time and just watch those guys

663
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 2: talk football. First of all, he is absolutely if he

664
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Speaker 2: wants to be a future coach in the NFL, no

665
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Speaker 2: que thousand percent. I don't know what he wants to do.

666
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 2: He's made a lot of money. He may want to

667
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Speaker 2: just be with his family when his career is over.

668
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Speaker 2: I also wonder, guys, if this is a close game

669
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Speaker 2: and the Seahawks win, how valuable Cooper Cup can be

670
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Speaker 2: behind the scenes and helping out Mike McDonald prepare for

671
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Speaker 2: the Rams offense.

672
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's a great question.

673
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Speaker 4: I've just went waiting to see that moment where Cooper

674
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Speaker 4: Cup gets the pivotal like we brought him in here

675
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 4: for third and four. Yes, I mean that's why we

676
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 4: brought I'm waiting for that pivotal third and four, fourth

677
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 4: and three, third and goal where Cooper Cup just slips

678
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 4: open last week. It was Bobo, not Cooper Cup that

679
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 4: that got the catch. You know, Yeah, that's that's what

680
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 4: I'm waiting for from Cooper Cup.

681
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 3: We haven't seen it yet. Maybe he's saving it for

682
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Speaker 3: the NFC time.

683
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: Well, the play of the game last week, which is

684
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: ridiculous because it was a forty one to six beat down,

685
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: was on second and twenty when he got that conversion.

686
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 2: It's just broke the backs of the Niners on that

687
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 2: one play. But he hasn't had He's only had one

688
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: ninety yard game the entire year, and that was in

689
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: Week two against Pittsburgh. He's only had one game the

690
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: entire season with seventy five yards or more as a seahaw.

691
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Speaker 3: That's incredible.

692
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Speaker 4: I mean I thought, you know, I thought he'd have

693
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Speaker 4: you know, six fifty seven hundred yards. He ended up

694
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Speaker 4: with five ninety three. I thought he'd have five or

695
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Speaker 4: six touchdowns. He ended up with two.

696
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, there he was.

697
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Speaker 4: He definitely he wasn't nearly part of as much part

698
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Speaker 4: of the offense as I thought he was.

699
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Speaker 2: Well, I thought if he stayed healthy, he was going

700
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Speaker 2: to be really good. And he's played in fifty sixteen games.

701
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 2: I mean fifty, he's had fifteen starts, he's only got

702
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,959
Speaker 2: forty seven catches. But Dick, I don't know. I just

703
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: feel like, almost at this point of the year. And

704
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that you want to just dismiss him

705
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 2: as a player, because again, if it's a close game Sunday,

706
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 2: all you need is one or two big catches from

707
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: the guy that can be the difference between going home

708
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 2: and going to the damn Super Bowl. I just think

709
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: his brain. I think his mind. I think the way

710
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 2: that he prepares and the way he gets everybody else

711
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 2: to prepare. What he can deliver to a film room

712
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 2: this week might almost be worth more than whatever he

713
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Speaker 2: does on the field this weekend. I mean again, Rashid Shiheed,

714
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 2: let's face it, everyone's all fired up for him, but

715
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Speaker 2: his numbers haven't been phenomenal as a pass catcher since

716
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Speaker 2: he joined the Seahawks.

717
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Speaker 3: The guy's been here. How many games has he played.

718
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: As a Seahawks Now, by the way, how many games

719
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Speaker 2: has he played? He's played nine games as a Hawk.

720
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Speaker 2: That is a no, no, yeah, nine nine games as

721
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Speaker 2: a Hawk and he's got fifteen catches for one hundred

722
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: and eighty eight yards does not have a receiving touchdown yet.

723
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Speaker 3: I mean from a receiving perspective, it's funny.

724
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Speaker 4: The numbers aren't very good. It's not a fact. They're terrible.

725
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Speaker 4: If I would have told you that, if I'd have

726
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 4: told you that that's what he was gonna give you

727
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 4: as a receiver and didn't say anything about special teams, right,

728
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 4: he'd have been like, oh my god, what a waste

729
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 4: of a trade.

730
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 3: What did we do?

731
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Speaker 4: But he gave us two of the biggest kick returns

732
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Speaker 4: in the history of the seat.

733
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Speaker 2: Now the dude, the dude has played. Am I not

734
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: mistaken here? But has he played nineteen games? I think

735
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 2: he's played nineteen games because he never got the bye

736
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Speaker 2: with I think either team. He played nine games with

737
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 2: the Saints, he played nine games with the Hawks, and

738
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 2: then the playoff game last weekend. He's played nineteen games

739
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: this year, but he's only got with the Seahawks one

740
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty eight yards receiving zero touchdowns. So his contributions,

741
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,479
Speaker 2: you can argue, have all been on special teams.

742
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Speaker 4: If he plays and as a runner every now and then,

743
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 4: if we win this week, yeah, he's got to break

744
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 4: the all time record for most games played in the season.

745
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Speaker 3: You'll play twenty one.

746
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: Game, right, right, Well, I mean eighteen games plus three

747
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 2: games in the playoffs, right if you have a buy

748
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 2: because they've been doing eighteen games. Yeah, you know, you're right, Yeah, yeah,

749
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: you're right. The only way is if somebody played seventeen

750
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: plus did not have a buy and play in the

751
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, then you got the full I don't know

752
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 2: if that's twenty one games, it's only been a few years.

753
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 2: Well how about how about he steps up and does

754
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 2: something in the past day this week.

755
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 3: The run game, Hey sucking jump in five carries for

756
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 3: going forty yards.

757
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Speaker 5: I would just also say, I mean we talk about

758
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 5: Cooper's numbers, I think that we need to understand jsn's

759
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 5: numbers would not be where they are without Cooper Cup.

760
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 5: I think, and that's not just because of he's a distraction.

761
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Speaker 5: I think that Cooper Cup and Jason's talked about this

762
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 5: in a number of interviews throughout this year, has had

763
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Speaker 5: a major impact on the way that JAYSN plays.

764
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Speaker 3: So, I mean, when we talk about the award.

765
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Speaker 5: That JAYSN got today and everything else, the numbers, the recognition,

766
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 5: I think you can directly look at the influence of

767
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Speaker 5: a guy like Cooper Cup on this team.

768
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Speaker 3: Are you talking about off the field influence? Yeah, exactly, Yeah, yeah,

769
00:34:58,480 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 3: off the field, because.

770
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Speaker 4: If if you'd have told me that JSN was gonna

771
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 4: have this type of season, then I would assumed that

772
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 4: Cooper Cup would have been more active and have and

773
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 4: having to bring more defenders his way to open up JSN.

774
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 3: But JSN has done it as the lone dude in.

775
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 2: This offense, in the passing game. Yeah, it's just it's incredible. Man,

776
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 2: what he's done without really a lot of big time

777
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 2: help around him.

778
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 3: Amazing.

779
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 2: All right, Scott Kaplan ESPN seven to ten LA. What

780
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: are the Rams thinking? What are the fans thinking? Let

781
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 2: me scratch that. What's the fan thinking about this game

782
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 2: with the Rams and Seahawks on Sunday?

783
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Speaker 3: Get to that next On ninety three three KJRFM, I.

784
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Speaker 12: Feel confident the Rams are going to beat Seattle in Seattle.

785
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 12: I'm confident they're going to win. I'm confident that they

786
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 12: are the better team. I'm confident that they should have

787
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 12: won both games already.

788
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 3: There's no doubt. There is no doubt they should have

789
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 3: won both games.

790
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Speaker 12: I think you want to force Donald to have to

791
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 12: throw the ball. I sell out on the run and say,

792
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 12: all right, Sam Donald, try to beat us.

793
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 9: Listen, Sam Donald's had an amazing couple of years, but

794
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,439
Speaker 9: he's never been in this kind of a big game

795
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 9: and the Rams House.

796
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's welcome in one half of that

797
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 2: crazy group. My buddy, my longtime pal ESPN Seven to

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Speaker 2: ten in La, Scott.

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Speaker 3: Kaplin with us right now on the radio show. How

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Speaker 3: are you, Scotty?

801
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 10: Well?

802
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 9: What's up Sausty?

803
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 7: What's upthing?

804
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 9: How are we doing? Guys?

805
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 3: Good man, good, good, good good.

806
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 2: So let's before we kind of get into this little

807
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 2: thing where we go back and forth and tell each

808
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 2: other how stupid they are and you're wrong and I'm right.

809
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 3: Uh, give us a vibe from La.

810
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 2: I mean we had noted sports La hater Petros Papadacus

811
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Speaker 2: on our radio show yesterday. He hates everything, obviously, so

812
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 2: it's fun of surprise that he doesn't give a damn

813
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 2: about Sunday.

814
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 4: But give me your thoughts on kind of the vibe

815
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 4: in La. Man, how fired up were people for this?

816
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 4: How big a deal is this.

817
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 3: In La on Sunday?

818
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 7: Oh?

819
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 9: I think it's a really big deal, and I think

820
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 9: it's for the first time, it's a really big deal.

821
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Speaker 9: As a matter of fact, I was saying earlier this

822
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 9: week on the air that the Rams have done such

823
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 9: a great job of coming back into LA, but it's

824
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 9: taken a really long time for the sports fans of

825
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 9: LA to really really get in tune with what they're

826
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,720
Speaker 9: doing because it's a Dodger town and obviously, the Dodgers

827
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 9: won the last two World Series, and the Lakers have all.

828
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 7: The drama all the time with Lebron And.

829
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 9: Even when the Rams won the Super Bowl, going back

830
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 9: just a couple of years ago and they had their parade,

831
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 9: it was not like a giant parade. People will still

832
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 9: were not back into the NFL the way they are

833
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 9: in cities like Seattle or other great NFL cities. And

834
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 9: so this year, though, you know, you finally have this

835
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 9: relationship now with this coach and this community, and you've

836
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 9: got a real pop level Hall of Fame caliber quarterback

837
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 9: Houka Nakua is a homegrown guy, and you know, Devonte

838
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 9: replacing Cooper, people felt like they got an upgrade there.

839
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 9: So I guess my point ultimately is is that the city,

840
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 9: for the first time since the Rams are back. It's

841
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 9: finally starting to feel now like a real NFL city

842
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 9: and like a real NFL Super Bowl run.

843
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 4: You know, Scott I brought up something earlier on the

844
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 4: show that just alluding to the cut that you just

845
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 4: we just played, and it was said that.

846
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 3: No doubt they should have won both games.

847
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 4: Talking about the Rams, I'm wondering why so much is

848
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 4: made of the Rams dominating the Seahawks statistically in Seattle

849
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 4: and losing by a fluke, And nothing's made of the

850
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 4: Hawks statistically dominating the Rams in the first game, like

851
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 4: twenty six to twelve, first downs, thirty eight to twenty two,

852
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 4: time possession four fourteen to two forty nine yards and

853
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 4: Sam hands the ball to the Rams four times, and

854
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 4: yet they lose on a missed field goal. Why is

855
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 4: nothing made of that game and so much is made

856
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 4: of the.

857
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 9: Other game because mostly because people forget, you know, and

858
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 9: then they just remember. They just think back and they go,

859
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 9: what happened in that game? Oh yeah, that was a

860
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 9: game that Sam Darnold drew four interceptions and the Rams,

861
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,439
Speaker 9: rather than burying the Seahawks like a team should when

862
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 9: a quarterback throws them foreigners options all people seem to

863
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 9: remember is you know what, huh, that's right. The Seahawks

864
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 9: are still in that game, and Jason Myers, who is

865
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 9: one of the best kickers in the NFL, a sixty

866
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 9: one yard field goal in a facility like Sofi Stadium

867
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 9: is a makeable field goal probably fifty percent of the

868
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Speaker 9: time for a guy like Jason Myers, He's capable of

869
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 9: making that kick. And who knew that the Seahawks would

870
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 9: actually find themselves in position to potentially win that game,

871
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Speaker 9: because remember it was a nineteen seventeen game. And so

872
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 9: when I said in that clip that you played that

873
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 9: they should have won both games, really it's because they

874
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 9: went to Seattle and they had a two score lead

875
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 9: and then there was the punt return that shifted the momentum,

876
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 9: and then there is kind of that bizarre statistical thing

877
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 9: that happened where there were three two point conversions in

878
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 9: the same game when the league average is like thirty

879
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 9: three percent.

880
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 7: So, by the way, I.

881
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 9: Suppose if you were listening to that clip and you

882
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 9: were a Seahawks fan, you'd probably be thinking the exact opposite,

883
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 9: which is the Seahawks would have and maybe should have

884
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 9: won that game in La and then they did snatch

885
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 9: that game from the Rams in Seattle.

886
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 3: Well, I mean it might take as simple.

887
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 2: The Hawks had no business winning the first game because

888
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 2: Sam threw four picks, and the Rams had no business

889
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 2: listening to the second game because they're up by sixteen

890
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 2: points in the fourth quarter. Right, So in the end,

891
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 2: we kind of have an impass here because you think,

892
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: and Scott, if I'm wrong, you tell me you think

893
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 2: this Rams football team is presently constructed right now, is

894
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 2: a better football team than the Seahawks.

895
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 3: I'm I right about that.

896
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 7: You're right.

897
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 3: Why do you feel that way?

898
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 9: Primarily because when I look at the Rams offense, I

899
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 9: know that this is a closing window here on Matthew Stafford,

900
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 9: and there's real desperation. You know, when Sean McVay made

901
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 9: it to the Super Bowl with Jared Goff and they

902
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 9: lost to the to the Patriots in Atlanta. That was

903
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 9: an up and coming coaching staff with a young quarterback,

904
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 9: and they obviously determined that he wasn't for them, and

905
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 9: they found a way to get out from underneath that contract.

906
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 9: And Stafford has delivered a Super Bowl, but Stafford's thirty seven,

907
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 9: and Stafford had back problems going into the season. He's

908
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 9: got a finger issue happening right now, and you cannot

909
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 9: have a mindset of, well, there's plenty of time, and

910
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 9: we're on our way. The Seahawks are on their way

911
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 9: now with Sam Donald, who's still a young guy and

912
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 9: who's obviously been getting better as the years have been

913
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 9: going on, and he's faced a lot of adversity in

914
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 9: his career in Carolina and prior to that New York.

915
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 9: And Sam Donald is now on his way. He's a

916
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 9: franchise quarterback. And you guys have a great young defensive

917
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 9: coach who again is also a guy whose name is

918
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 9: now becoming familiar. But Sean McVay is a guy who's

919
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 9: got ten postseason wins before he's even forty years old.

920
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 9: And Stafford's thirty seven. And when I look at this

921
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 9: Rams offense, it's two running backs deep, it's four tight

922
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 9: ends deep, it's four wide receivers deep. Their offensive line

923
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 9: is healthier than it's been in years past for me,

924
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 9: at least from a Rams offensive side, And that's really decided.

925
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 9: It's going to have to win this game, I believe,

926
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 9: against a very tough Seattle defense. This is the window

927
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 9: on the Matthew Stafford thing is closing, and it's pretty

928
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 9: it's closing quickly. So for me, it's a desperation thing.

929
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 9: Is when I look at Chicago and I look at

930
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 9: teams like you know, New England, Denver, these are teams

931
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 9: that have young quarterbacks. The rams time is now or

932
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 9: this window on Stafford is closing.

933
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 4: Talk about what this team's look like the last month

934
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 4: compared to the rest of the year. I mean, the

935
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 4: last two games of the regular season. They lose to Atlanta.

936
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 4: I kind of chalked it up at they didn't have

937
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 4: the division anyway. They looked terrible against Arizona. I'm like, ah,

938
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 4: they got you know, no big deal. I figured they'd

939
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 4: kill Carolina and they're behind by three, three points with

940
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 4: you know, a few minutes left to go, and then

941
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 4: they go to overtime against Chicago. Why have they not

942
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 4: looked the same?

943
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 9: Well, I think the first part of it is they

944
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 9: had major special teams problems throughout this year, and you know,

945
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 9: I kept thinking that they were the most complete team

946
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 9: in football, and I rattled off all the reasons why

947
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,720
Speaker 9: on offense, on defense, you know, they're very young upfront,

948
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 9: but they're really athletic, and they're really aggressive, and they're

949
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 9: not really that great in the secondary. But what made

950
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 9: them not the most complete team in the NFL was

951
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 9: their kicking game. And so whether it was a punt

952
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 9: return for a touchdown that you guys saw in the

953
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 9: game later in the season in you know, that was

954
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 9: I think December eighteenth was that game. Other than that,

955
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 9: it was miss field goals, it was blockfield goals, and

956
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 9: everything was going wrong in the kicking game, and it

957
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 9: really all played itself out in Seattle. And after that

958
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 9: Seattle game, you might remember, Sean McVay fired his special

959
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 9: teams coach, a guy by the name of Chase Blackburn,

960
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,439
Speaker 9: who was a former NFL linebacker, had a really great

961
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 9: career and had been the coach sewn the special team's

962
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 9: coordinator job for the last couple of seasons. He fired

963
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 9: him in seasons first time he's ever done it. So

964
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 9: they fired a long staffer, they fired a kicker, they

965
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 9: fired a special teams coach in an effort to clean

966
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 9: this mess up, and it's still hasn't necessarily gone so great.

967
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 9: So I would say that that special teams is a

968
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 9: big part of the problem, especially down the stretch. And

969
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 9: when you really look at it, you know, after the

970
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 9: Rams beat Detroit and they beat him, you know, it

971
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 9: wasn't like alew them out, but they beat him by

972
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 9: a score. Then they lost that game to Seattle, and

973
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 9: they had a lot of time because remember that was

974
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 9: a Thursday night game, and then they had a lot

975
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 9: of time because they were playing Atlanta on a Monday night.

976
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 7: And I don't know what.

977
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 9: Happened in between there, because I would have thought that

978
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 9: they would have come back and blown Atlanta out and

979
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 9: it didn't happen. And you're right, they didn't look so

980
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 9: great against Arizona, So something definitely happened in the last

981
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 9: four weeks. I really chalk it up to the firing

982
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 9: of the special teams coach because it's something that they'd

983
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 9: never seen before, and also dealing with the reality if

984
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 9: they were the first team in and had, you know,

985
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 9: the grasp on home field advantage and they lost it.

986
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 9: They blew it. So but but I will say this,

987
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 9: I also thought, you know, it's a ten and a

988
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 9: half point favorite of Carolina. I expected to blow Carolina out.

989
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 9: They didn't, and Carolina was terrible down the stretch, and

990
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 9: I would have loved to have seen them beat Chicago

991
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 9: more handily. But they had a seven point lead until

992
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 9: Caleb threw that crazy, you know, backward back pedaling pass

993
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 9: that I thought he was just throwing the ball out

994
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 9: of bounds and it landed in the end zone and

995
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 9: in the tight end's hands. So they had that game

996
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 9: by seven. It would have looked a lot better. But

997
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 9: I think going down the road and winning in Chicago

998
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 9: and winning in weather was a great thing, regardless of

999
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 9: the score, because I've promised you guys this. It was

1000
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,720
Speaker 9: eighty degrees when they left and it was like minus

1001
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 9: eight when they got to Chicago.

1002
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that game to me is just about grid. I

1003
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 2: kind of throw out the final score. Just survival in

1004
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: Chicago for you guys. The Carolina game would concern me

1005
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 2: way more than the Bear game. But Scott Kaplan ESPN

1006
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: seven to ten LA is with us and Scott Dick

1007
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 2: was asking about how this team is different.

1008
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 3: I'm looking at your defense man.

1009
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 2: In the last six games, going back to week fifteen,

1010
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 2: you guys are allowing sixty eight percent in the red

1011
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 2: zone and that's ridiculous. Thirteen for nineteen, these guys getting

1012
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: the red zone against the Rams on Sunday and they

1013
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 2: got to be smelling blood. The hell's going on with

1014
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: your red zone defense, dude, because that's terrible.

1015
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 9: It's a good question because think about this. You know,

1016
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 9: when you hear about all these coaching moves around the league,

1017
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 9: one name you hear consistently now is Chris Shula, who's

1018
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 9: the defensive coordinator of the Rams. And you know, look,

1019
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 9: he's he was Sean mcvay's college roommate. He's Don Shula,

1020
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 9: his grandson. He's got the name, the pedigree, the relationships, etc.

1021
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 9: But over the last few weeks, this defense, which had

1022
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 9: been so good, so aggressive, they've been all over quarterbacks.

1023
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 9: You know, they've got some guys that they drafted over

1024
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 9: the years to replace Aaron Donald. They didn't try and

1025
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 9: do that one for one. They did that by drafting

1026
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 9: for about two seasons and it turned into about four

1027
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 9: guys and then it turned into a free agent signing

1028
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 9: with Puna Ford up front, who's, you know, very good,

1029
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 9: solid defensive tackle, run stopper, but he can also get

1030
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 9: to the quarterback. They have just for whatever reason, in

1031
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 9: the last few weeks, not performed well, you mentioned the

1032
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 9: red zone statistics, but you know, for me, The real

1033
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 9: weakness of this team is the secondary. That is the

1034
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 9: one place where they thought getting Quinton Lake back off

1035
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 9: of injured reserve is going to help, and it did

1036
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 9: for sure, and then last week you saw what happened

1037
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 9: against Caleb. They did get three interceptions, but for whatever reason,

1038
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 9: that secondary is exposed when that front seven does not

1039
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 9: put a lot of pressure around the quarterback, and the

1040
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 9: statistics obviously bear that out.

1041
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 4: Three consecutive road games for the Rams in the playoffs,

1042
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 4: including one that went to overtime, how much is fatigue

1043
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 4: a factor in your mind against a very fresh Hawks

1044
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 4: team who had a week off and then like a

1045
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 4: quarter and a half off against the Niners.

1046
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,919
Speaker 9: It's absolutely everything that concerns me about this game. Last week,

1047
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 9: I was concerned about the weather in Chicago. People said, no,

1048
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 9: they're pros. You know, Matthew Stafford had played in the

1049
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 9: coold weather. I'm like, look, Matthew Stafford played mcold weather

1050
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 9: a couple times a year, but he played in a

1051
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 9: dome in Detroit, and he played in a dome when

1052
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,919
Speaker 9: he was on the road in Minnesota. So I don't

1053
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 9: think anybody can really prepare themselves for the cold weather.

1054
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 9: And I think that the Bears had their fair share

1055
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 9: of issues as well. Everything about last week's game, what

1056
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 9: you guys just said concerns me about this week's game.

1057
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 9: Seattle had the week off, they got themselves healthy, and

1058
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,919
Speaker 9: San Francisco ran out of gas like a baseball team

1059
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 9: that just ran out of arms. They ran out of body.

1060
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 9: And George Kittle was the last part of that. And

1061
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 9: so Seattle is fresh, Seattle's rested, Seattle healthy. Obviously, the

1062
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 9: zach Sharbon I think hurts this week, and Darnold's oblique

1063
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 9: is of concern, but Seattle should be healthy and there

1064
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 9: at home. And Softie, you know that I have been

1065
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 9: up to Seattle for many, many games, and I know

1066
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 9: what that home field advantage is all about. But on

1067
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 9: the other hand, you know, I look at the Rams

1068
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 9: and they are believe it or not, they're the healthiest

1069
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 9: team of the four remaining just top to bottom. They

1070
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 9: are actually the healthiest of all four teams. And I

1071
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 9: think that they're more battle tested right now because what

1072
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 9: you said. You know, listen, they are superior to Carolina,

1073
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 9: and Carolina stayed in that game and they are more

1074
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 9: experienced in Chicago, and Chicago made a miraculous play, and

1075
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 9: so this again is a desperation moment. The only thing

1076
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 9: I can tell you is this is that the one

1077
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 9: thing about this Rams team, even with their offensive coordinator,

1078
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 9: their defensive coordinator, their passing game coordinator all being hot

1079
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 9: candidates for head coaching jobs, the one thing that they

1080
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 9: has this team and this coaching staff is just completely

1081
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 9: utterly laser focused on winning this game. So all for

1082
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 9: all the reasons that you guys should feel confident about

1083
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 9: the Seahawks are all the opposite reasons of why I

1084
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 9: feel confident about the Rams.

1085
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Speaker 2: Well, Scott kaplan is with us, and I'll be honest

1086
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 2: with you, Scottie, you don't sound as cocky now as

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00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 2: you did on your show, that's for sure. Well you're

1088
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 2: measured here, your reason, your logical. I thought we'd have

1089
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 2: way more fireworks that we've had so far, Scott.

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Speaker 9: Well, let me tell you something funny. So so my

1091
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 9: partner on the radio, George Sodado, he started talking about

1092
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 9: that on Monday, about how confident he is, and I

1093
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 9: was like, really, you're like, I think they're gonna win,

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00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 9: and I've convinced myself they're gonna win, but I'm not

1095
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,919
Speaker 9: one hundred percent so confident because of the things we're

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00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 9: talking about, in particular, you know, Seattle being rested and

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00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 9: healthy and not tested at all by San Francisco. These

1098
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 9: are the things that have me worried. And George, my partner,

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00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 9: was like, oh man, I'm super confident. Well here's what happened.

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Speaker 9: The Seahawks fans. Somehow this got into the algorithm on

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00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 9: Instagram and Twitter and do this. Eahawks fans have been

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Speaker 9: kicking my ass for a whole week long, telling me

1103
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 9: about how they're going to break out the receipts on Sunday, right,

1104
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 9: And so I said to our social media team, I said, hey,

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00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 9: this is on Tuesday. I'm like, these Seahawks fans are nuts.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 9: They're killing me. Okay, they're beating me up. They're calling

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00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 9: me all kinds of names. And so I said, I'm

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Speaker 9: going to double down on it today. So the next

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00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 9: day I went back in for more and then they

1111
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 9: cut it up and they spread it out and every

1112
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 9: day I wake up and my Instagram feed and my

1113
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 9: Twitter feed is filled with Seahawks fans telling me what

1114
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 9: a jerk I am. So yes, I get something in vain.

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00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 9: I get in some ways I've got to torn it

1116
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 9: down a little bit. The Seahawks fans are coming for me.

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00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Man, Seahawks fans are noted for a lot of things,

1118
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 2: but we don't know about us as we're animals. Man,

1119
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 2: we are absolutely Athrow falls up here in Seattle. Say

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Speaker 2: you better look out, Scottie.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 9: I thought it was I thought it was said some

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Speaker 9: of these Seahawks fans.

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Speaker 8: I go, my god, you.

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Speaker 9: Guys are defending Sam Darnold. He's been your quarterback for

1126
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 9: the last fifteen years. Man, see you competent? Yeah, so

1127
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 9: the confidence and Sam Darnald, I'm like, guys, he won

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00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 9: a couple of nice games this year, let's see what

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00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 9: happens on the big stage.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's twenty nine and seven. Scott in his last

1131
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 2: thirty six starts. Well more do you want him to do?

1132
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, it's like everybody keeps you. Like I

1133
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,479
Speaker 2: was on with Matt Thomas in Houston in history.

1134
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Speaker 4: He was like, you know, Sam Darnald's never won a

1135
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 4: big game, He's never played in one up and this

1136
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 4: is the biggest game he's ever played this life.

1137
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 2: He's got two playoff games, and the second one he

1138
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: didn't even need to show up for crying.

1139
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 3: He played pretty big in the Rams game. That was

1140
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 3: pretty That was a pretty big game.

1141
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 2: So look, man, I don't know that. To me, it's

1142
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 2: a toss up, but we're gonna win, and you suck.

1143
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 3: How's that sound.

1144
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 7: Listen?

1145
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 9: We will we will determine what happens on Sunday. Actually

1146
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 9: we won't have anything to do with it. Ur they'll

1147
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 9: have a whole lot and then we'll and then we'll

1148
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 9: pick it up after that.

1149
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 2: Good luck, guys, all right, man Scott Kaplan ESPN seven

1150
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 2: to ten LA. I like the fact that he was

1151
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 2: convinced the Hawks are gonna win or set or excuse

1152
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 2: me sort of talking about the Rams winning because Hawk

1153
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 2: fans were busting his balls too much on social media.

1154
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 3: I do wonder, by the way, what it's like.

1155
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: And I don't know, Jackson, if you've noticed this, or

1156
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 2: Dick you've noticed this, what's it like to be on

1157
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 2: the other side of the twelfth Man? Because I know

1158
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 2: what it's like to be on this side of the

1159
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 2: Niner fans, Oregon fans, Blue Jay fans, Astro fans. I

1160
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 2: have no idea what it's like to be on the

1161
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 2: other side of the twelfth Man. But you heard what

1162
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 2: he said right there. He said, We're nasty. We're nasty people.

1163
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 5: So the only thing I have to go off of

1164
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 5: is when I deal with Portland Timbers fans in Portland

1165
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 5: outside of and inside of their stadium. Yes, and it

1166
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 5: is as nasty as I have, nastier than I even imagine,

1167
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,240
Speaker 5: because the first time I went in twenty eighteen, everybody's

1168
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 5: kind of like, you're you're not ready for how how nasty.

1169
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 3: These people are.

1170
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Speaker 5: And I still watch the concourse and all I had on, Guys,

1171
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Speaker 5: all I had on was a sounder pin on my

1172
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 5: suit jacket, and I still got f u's and you know,

1173
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 5: lots of bad words that I can't say on the rail,

1174
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 5: like like it is into a little then you're just

1175
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 5: walking through the congourse and they do that.

1176
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 3: But how are we? I mean, are we? A lot

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00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 3: of Jackson?

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Speaker 4: A lot of those people are Seahawks fans, right, A

1179
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 4: lot of Timbers fans and Duck fans are the same people.

1180
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 4: So the same jackasses that are tweeting about the Ducks

1181
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 4: and the Timbers are the same people getting after Scott

1182
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 4: Kaplan about the Seahawks.

1183
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 2: I think there's a I think there's a good chance

1184
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 2: that the Twelfth Man comes across that same way. By

1185
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 2: the way, as our fans, I think there's a lot

1186
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 2: of our fans that are just crazy, which I love.

1187
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 3: I mean, I love the fact we're harder to text.

1188
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,479
Speaker 4: I mean, I would say that the Seahawks fan base

1189
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 4: is very hardcore compared to most now are not sure

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00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 4: they're not Eagle fans, but I don't really want to

1191
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 4: be Eagle fans.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's a there's a point where you get

1193
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 3: too far.

1194
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 2: I think for me, the worst fan by fan base

1195
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 2: excuse me, that I've encountered so far is Toronto.

1196
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 3: Blue Jay fans.

1197
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 2: And it's not even close worse than Oregon, worse than

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00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 2: San Francisco because I just go online and I'll say, hey,

1199
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 2: have a great day, and boom, I'm getting it from

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00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 2: all sides. People that don't even follow that are just

1201
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,240
Speaker 2: looking for a fight. They're seeking you out.

1202
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 10: Man.

1203
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 2: I hear from Oregon fans a lot, like when the

1204
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 2: Indiana game went down and I said, hey, Indiana wins

1205
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 2: a tunnel before Oregon. They'll get after me about that,

1206
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 2: for sure, But I'm talking about them. I'm not even

1207
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 2: talking about Blue Jay fans like I could retweet, Humelon

1208
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 2: joins us five o'clock suck my whatever.

1209
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 3: Wow, I mean that they still just lose their mind.

1210
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 3: They just randomly show up.

1211
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 2: Man, it's gonna have your head on a swivel looking

1212
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 2: for these people.

1213
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. All Right, I'm sorry, you're trying to have

1214
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 3: a nice dinner.

1215
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 2: I apologize these gals over here trying to have a

1216
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 2: nice dinner. Tell you want to buy you a drink.

1217
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 2: Three margaritas for you, two for us. All Right, we're

1218
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 2: gonna break