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Speaker 2: Hopefully you have braved and survived the snow and you

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Speaker 2: planning a holiday party, you're thinking ahead to the football weekend,

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Speaker 2: all the conference championship games. You know, I've heard someone

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Speaker 2: Now it's gonna be a good game. The Big ten

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Speaker 2: stop short of Game of the Century Bengals Bills on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: You could watch that game here as the Bengals take

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Speaker 3: It has you miss a day, you miss a lot,

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Speaker 3: It is like I'm you know, I'm I was resistant.

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Speaker 2: It's very cozy, it's very festive. It's festive without being

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Speaker 2: in your face festive. Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't feel overwhelmed by it, but I do. I

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Speaker 2: Like Chris Kindle market in your face. And I'm not

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Speaker 2: is all about Christmas. This is kind of about Christmas,

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Speaker 3: I feel like it's like going over to your friend's

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Speaker 3: No, it's it's comfortable.

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Speaker 2: I also neglected to mention if you're looking for a

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Speaker 2: Friday night, you can do that here at Oakley Greens

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Speaker 2: as well. There is a lot of ground to cover

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Speaker 2: and it is remarkable the narrative shift. This is why

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Speaker 2: I love sports, This is why I love this league.

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Speaker 2: Two weeks ago, Who's gonna get fired? Who should get fired?

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Speaker 2: Should Burrow play they're playing out the strand, well they

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's funny how quickly things change. But I

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Speaker 2: There's no dominant team really in the.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing. Like the team, like, there's the brand,

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Speaker 2: If you watch them, there's nothing about them that screams

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Speaker 2: They've been uneven on offense even during that five game

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Speaker 2: I would rather get the payout with the Bengals and

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Speaker 2: or I can get the Bengals. Burrow Is back seventeen

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Speaker 2: and five in December and January. Regular season games since

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I agree with you. You can you can

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Speaker 3: see it, yes, like you can feel it.

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Speaker 2: Not telling you it's likely.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I think I think there's you know, we

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Speaker 3: similar to simulate the simulator I did great. Similarly, simulator

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 3: Go go play as much as you want to do

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Speaker 3: You know it's got it in the single percentage points.

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Speaker 3: But what I think what the those numbers, the six percent,

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Speaker 2: But if you can go you're falling again behind somebody

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Speaker 3: They've got as good a chance as anybody, especially if

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Speaker 2: See and it's a plane.

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Speaker 3: It starts on the plane, right, and it's like it's

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Speaker 2: know what, I didn't feel like doing bonding with anybody,

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Speaker 3: Everyone else would bond over your misery on a plane

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Speaker 3: I go back to Rocky four a lot, and it

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Speaker 2: And all you're gonna tell me is you can't beat him.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's look, although I think anytime that you

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Speaker 2: No doubt about it. And as a as a husband

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Speaker 2: There he goes, terrible plan rising to the occasion. Good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Hey one hour before the Bengals. He's pretty good. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: later on Ooh, build the drama. More on Burrow because

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Speaker 3: feeling generally like like after the Flacco Green Bay game,

434
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Speaker 3: where that first half was like, Okay, what do you

435
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 3: expect here? I mean, this guy's trying to get it going,

436
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 3: and then you see it in the second half, You're like, Oh,

437
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Speaker 3: this is what it's gonna look like. Yeah, this is

438
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Speaker 3: this is what this is what it could look like

439
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Speaker 3: maybe you should look like. And you feel like, now

440
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,400
Speaker 3: after coming out of that ten days a full game planned,

441
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,439
Speaker 3: you know, all of that stuff, everybody back moving the

442
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 3: right way, t Higgins back in the in the mix,

443
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,680
Speaker 3: you feel like it's gonna it can take off, much

444
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Speaker 3: like we saw happen with Flacco after that. Obviously with

445
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,119
Speaker 3: on a different level that Burrow plays at, but like

446
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 3: the similar concept is you saw so many of those

447
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 3: timing plays not hitting in the first half, which is

448
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,400
Speaker 3: what was bogging them down. Stuff that you literally never

449
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 3: see Joe miss and those weren't being missed as much,

450
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 3: and there's really not enough love given too. Maybe there is,

451
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 3: but to the Yoshi touchdown to everything that he had

452
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Speaker 3: to execute, it's vintage Burrow and to do that after

453
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Speaker 3: two months away and just come back out there and

454
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 3: win the chess match against the Ravens by diagnosing a

455
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Speaker 3: defense and blitz package that they've used in the past

456
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 3: and setting up the protection, moving guys around, and then

457
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 3: throwing the dime to Yoshi, who's got Rokwon Smith chasing them,

458
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Speaker 3: like just the next level stuff that you get with him,

459
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Speaker 3: and and that you and maybe only get with him.

460
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Speaker 3: That sets it apart, and it's like, Okay, he's he's

461
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Speaker 3: starting to feel it. Now You're you're seeing all of

462
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 3: the all of the Burrow elements. The only one that's

463
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Speaker 3: yet to come that maybe you'll see in the coming

464
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Speaker 3: we a little bit more of the scrambling and the

465
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Speaker 3: playmaking stuff that makes people nervous but makes Joe Burrow

466
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Speaker 3: special and so.

467
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Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, it was.

468
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Speaker 3: A pretty unbelievable performance all things considered.

469
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was unbelievable and it almost is exactly what

470
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Speaker 2: I expected I'd be aligned to you if I told

471
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Speaker 2: you I really expected them to win the game or

472
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Speaker 2: win the game by as many as they did. But

473
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Speaker 2: I thought, as the game goes on, Joe's gonna be fine,

474
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Speaker 2: probably gonna be a little rough early. It's been two

475
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Speaker 2: and a half months. Also, he stinks in season openers.

476
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Speaker 2: This is a season opener two point zero. But I

477
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Speaker 2: got what I was looking for.

478
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you got the look of a guy

479
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Speaker 3: that still knows what the heck he's doing out there.

480
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Speaker 3: And also, you know, I just thought, I love reflective

481
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow. We don't get it all that often, like

482
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Speaker 3: we do sometimes, and I just feel like his his

483
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 3: perspective is always so great, and you feel his teammates

484
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 3: latch onto whatever that perspective is. And whether he's sang

485
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 3: it through us or saying it to them behind closed

486
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Speaker 3: doors or whatever. We don't know exactly what's being said there,

487
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 3: but like you really feel that, And it was just

488
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Speaker 3: really cool to hear him talk about how much this

489
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 3: meant to him and teammates, you know, going around the

490
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 3: locker room after the game, teammates talking about how much

491
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Speaker 3: it mattered to them to try to win because of

492
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 3: how much they knew it meant to Joe and they

493
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Speaker 3: want to do this for Joe, And I think that's

494
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 3: a true rallying cry that lasts. And I thought brought

495
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Speaker 3: out another level when a lot of players individually on

496
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Speaker 3: Thursday night that maybe we hadn't totally seen yet.

497
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Speaker 2: He made me feel ashamed of myself because when they

498
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Speaker 2: lost to the Patriots, my thing was put him on

499
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Speaker 2: the shelf. And then when I heard him talk about

500
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 2: wanting to play and it's a kid's game and we

501
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 2: get paid a lot of money, my take was, who

502
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 2: am I to take that away from him? Right? Like?

503
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 2: Who am I to tell him, don't do this if

504
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 2: you can, especially when the game's dull STU carry meaning

505
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 2: now and talk to me week seventeen if they have

506
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 2: eleven losses Joe hard pass. But I literally was like,

507
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Speaker 2: you know, that was my take, But who am I

508
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Speaker 2: to tell this dude? Yeah, hey, you worked your ass off,

509
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Speaker 2: hold a clipboard?

510
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that was sort of my thing the whole time,

511
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Speaker 3: was I mean, even early in the week when Burrow

512
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Speaker 3: was like, look, I'm never going to be the one

513
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Speaker 3: to be like I'm healthy, but I don't think I

514
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 3: should play like I'm too important or whatever, and I

515
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Speaker 3: think that was the whole thing was was that is

516
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Speaker 3: one who he is and who the Bengals have kind

517
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Speaker 3: of tried to build their entire organization around that attitude,

518
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 3: and that's what they want more people and everyone to.

519
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 2: Be sort of about.

520
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Speaker 3: Is if you're healthy, if there's a way you can

521
00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 3: go out there and do it and do whatever you

522
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 3: can can help your team win, you go do it.

523
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 3: And that means a lot to people, and I think

524
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 3: it leaves him. He always makes an impact on his

525
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 3: teammates and you hear that from them whenever you talk

526
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Speaker 3: to him. But I think it was exponentially notable because

527
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Speaker 3: of everything that he did and how sort of open

528
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Speaker 3: and reflective he was about that during the course of

529
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Speaker 3: the weekend.

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Speaker 8: On Thursday, all right, we're.

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Speaker 2: Late twenty four from four o'clock at Oakley Greens. We're

532
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Speaker 2: gonna get to Trey Hendrickson. Shall we have we done

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Speaker 2: that before? Uh? Yeah, I haven't written down on the list.

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Speaker 2: Well I have airplane. We already did that. We've already

535
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Speaker 2: kind of done.

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Speaker 3: I guess we'll have to do Trey Hendrickson. I know

537
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Speaker 3: you don't like doing that, you.

538
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Speaker 2: Know what I'm gonna talk about Miles Murphy before we

539
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Speaker 2: talk about Trey Hendrick. Let's do it, please. We'll do

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Speaker 2: that when we come back. Sports headlines as well. We

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Speaker 2: Jaylen Kimber to the practice squad and they might go. Well,

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Speaker 2: big deal. But he was he was with the Bills

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Speaker 2: practice squad earlier this season, so he knows everything so

565
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Speaker 2: much intel. Hey, that Josh Allen guy might be pretty good.

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Speaker 2: That's that's that's the sort of intel. He's providing the

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Speaker 2: The Musketeers winning last night over Saint Francis, Cincinnati won

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Speaker 2: beat Tarleton State, and U Sean's Davier play on Friday

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Speaker 2: in the skyline Chili Crosstown Shootout, a game that you

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Speaker 2: could watch here at Oakley Greens. And this is the

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Speaker 2: environment like Ucian Xavier fans can co mingle, can coexist,

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Speaker 2: can have a great time, enjoy that the fellowship and

580
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 2: good vibe that always comes with that game. Just do

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Speaker 2: it here at Oakley Drink fellowship and good vibe. You're

582
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Speaker 2: right across. That's usually what I think that it brings

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Speaker 2: out of everybody. There are two hours a year where

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Speaker 2: I absolutely, no matter what's going on, will not look

585
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Speaker 2: at social media. Yeah, those are the two. Those are

586
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Speaker 2: the two. I can't think of it.

587
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 3: Without seeing Kenny Freeze's eye because I mean, just the

588
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 3: craziest sporting event I've ever covered in my entire life

589
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 3: being I will I will be on my death talking

590
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Speaker 3: about I was ten feet away from the fight in

591
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Speaker 3: UC Xavier and we'll we'll never forget seeing it that

592
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 3: close and how close, how my jaw lived on the

593
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Speaker 3: floor that entire afternoon.

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Speaker 2: You want to talk about a cauldron of bad sports takes,

595
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Speaker 2: go back and find shows and social media and blogs

596
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Speaker 2: from fourteen years ago this December, because that's I I'm

597
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Speaker 2: not sure there's ever been a a you know, like

598
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Speaker 2: a a an event that generated more just awful takes

599
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Speaker 2: than that one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there'm I might have spewed a few. I don't

601
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Speaker 3: even know, but I probably did too. I was in favor.

602
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Speaker 3: I don't know if I still am. Do you want

603
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Speaker 3: to cancel the game?

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Speaker 2: No? No, no.

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Speaker 3: I was in favor of the three site rotation of

606
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Speaker 3: Xavier Uce Neutral every three years because I like I

607
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Speaker 3: like the neutral I was one of the few that

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Speaker 3: liked the Neutral site.

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Speaker 2: I think I like the It has.

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Speaker 3: An ncble A feel about like momentum swings, where you

611
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Speaker 3: have runs where one side of the building is like

612
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Speaker 3: rising in the other one sitting, and then I felt

613
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Speaker 3: like it made the runs feel bigger. That was really

614
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Speaker 3: cool that I liked it, And it kind of was

615
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Speaker 3: a good ncublea feel on that one.

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Speaker 2: But but without giving away like when was like.

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Speaker 3: Oh, no, we're not going to do these on home

618
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Speaker 3: sites anymore, like the floor was the problem. No, but

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Speaker 3: I did like the idea that came up of maybe

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Speaker 3: having a rotation, even though I.

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Speaker 2: Think you were the one that came up with the

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Speaker 2: idea of change the name, right, was that I was

623
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Speaker 2: not change the name.

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Speaker 3: Don't you put that on me? Don't you put that

625
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Speaker 3: on me?

626
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Speaker 2: Is Miles Murphy?

627
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Speaker 3: Good might be, I'm not gonna say good.

628
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Speaker 2: I still think that turned the corner light bulbs on.

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Speaker 3: A switch has been flipped.

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Speaker 2: Look.

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Speaker 3: Had we talked to Jerry Montgomery Montgomery on the Rewatch

632
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Speaker 3: Show Charlie and I yesterday and just talking about sort

633
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Speaker 3: of the development of all these young guys. Yeah, but

634
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 3: a lot of it was about Miles. And I was

635
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 3: talking about the play where he chases down Derrick Henry

636
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 3: forty yards down the field. Only three defensive linemen all

637
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Speaker 3: year have a tackle on a play that game thirty

638
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Speaker 3: plus yards.

639
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Speaker 2: He's one of three.

640
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Speaker 3: This is not something that happens, and particularly chasing it

641
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 3: from behind. He said, Yeah, that's true, he said, but

642
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 3: I'd like you to go back two weeks ago and

643
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 3: there was a play where a run by Kenneth Gainwell

644
00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 3: and Pittsburgh got out and Miles essentially loafed and didn't

645
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 3: and you know a lot of company that dead right, absolutely,

646
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 3: But he's like that, that's stuff that was shown and

647
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 3: so to see it go from you got to learn

648
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 3: for you gotta do this to turn into that, which

649
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 3: then turns into three plays later his tip ball that

650
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 3: turns an interception. Like it's those moments where you you

651
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 3: see it happen, you see everything your coaches have been

652
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 3: telling you, you see it start to turn into something

653
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 3: are what drives you to become that player all the time.

654
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Speaker 3: And I just think there hadn't because of his lack

655
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 3: of experience, because of his lack of success and and everything.

656
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 3: I don't think he had had those drivers. But you've

657
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 3: seen that now really over the last three weeks as

658
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 3: he's been playing. He's been playing more before that, but

659
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 3: you've certainly over the last three weeks seen him be

660
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 3: more active, more productive. You're seeing where you see him

661
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 3: every single game, where I don't think you've said that

662
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 3: hardly at all during his career. And it does, I

663
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 3: mean it does take time for guys, especially guys that

664
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 3: are looked at as trades based prospects. I still think

665
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 3: that what we learned early is that, Okay, he's not

666
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 3: gonna have a first round elite ceiling, but I think

667
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 3: his floor is raising right now.

668
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Speaker 2: And I'll take that well absolutely, And.

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Speaker 3: I just think it's what it's the does he have

670
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 3: the dog get him righty. He had the fight that

671
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 3: he He looks like a guy that wants it and

672
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 3: cares and it matters to him. And he's playing with

673
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 3: that energy and the heart and passion stuff that you

674
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Speaker 3: kind of hope to see more of from him that

675
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 3: you hadn't seen enough of. I think over his time

676
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 3: here and it's.

677
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 2: It's showing up.

678
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 3: He still doesn't finish, like he's still struggling to finish.

679
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 3: But there was a play, but he's back there.

680
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: There was a play in that game where I think

681
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 2: he's he's in the backfield trying to take down Lamar

682
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 2: and it looks like he was told to go back

683
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Speaker 2: in the position that he was in before the ball

684
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Speaker 2: was snapped. I wish I had it in front of you.

685
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 2: It's one of the I was watching it with a

686
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 2: buddy of mine and I'm like, what is Miles Murphy doing? Yeah,

687
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 2: But then I'm like, you know, positive guy, he was

688
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Speaker 2: in the backfield.

689
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Speaker 3: He just chose to go back, chose to go you know,

690
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 3: he got there.

691
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Speaker 2: Should we give al Golan the D back in his

692
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Speaker 2: last name?

693
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Speaker 3: Has he earned it? I'm not there yet, Okay. I

694
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Speaker 3: Mean here's the thing. I think that the Bengals were

695
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 3: beneficiaries of some pretty significant breaks, not just one, not

696
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 3: just two. Also, them not giving the ball to Derek

697
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 3: Henry made no sense, right, a lot of things happening

698
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 3: and that I mean, you know the OPI on the

699
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 3: Ze Flowers touchdown obviously, the fumble that ends up a

700
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 3: touchback in the end zone that should have been Isaiah.

701
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 3: I mean, credit the hustle by Jordan Battle, but still

702
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 3: you know a couple of deep balls that they should

703
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 3: have connected to Tess Walker. Like, there there were a

704
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Speaker 3: number of plays, some calls that that could have gone

705
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 3: this other way, and the game feels completely different, it

706
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 3: looks different. We talk about this all the time when

707
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 3: in games at the Bengals of loss right, it's like, ah,

708
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 3: this call, this play, and they had multiple of those

709
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Speaker 3: where you I don't know how anybody didn't feel at halftime, like, man,

710
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 3: they've squandered this opportunity. How are they only up five

711
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 3: considering all the breaks that felt like had gone their way.

712
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 3: I mean, Lamar literally just gives them a ball at

713
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 3: one point, like they're getting turnovers. They maybe you create some,

714
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 3: some of them you don't deserve. Like so I'm I'm

715
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 3: there it's clearly you're clearly seeing a trend in the ring. Clearly,

716
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 3: like no, nobody is. I am not disparaging that at all.

717
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 3: I think you're clearly seeing it start to click for

718
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 3: these guys and them to build some confidence and momentum.

719
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Speaker 3: And even Al Golden talked to us yesterday and said,

720
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 3: you know, he's more trusting and comfortable to call more

721
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 3: of the exotic. Not I'm gonna use exotic, but just

722
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 3: just the extra stuff in his game plan that he's

723
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 3: been resistant to do because they'll afraid they're gonna screw

724
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Speaker 3: it up.

725
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 2: And so the ability to do.

726
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 3: More blitzes on second downs on third downs showed up.

727
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 3: You see that when you watch the game. And so

728
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 3: I think just think all of that shows that, yes,

729
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 3: the progress is being made and you're seeing it going

730
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 3: in a different direction. But how high can they get

731
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 3: this year? I'm not going to totally say what happened

732
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 3: in Baltimore suggests that because some of those big moments

733
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 3: that could have gone against them didn't, and and that

734
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 3: changed the whole dynamic of the game that said go

735
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 3: to Buffalo, yeah, and slow down Josh Allen and these

736
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 3: guys that just ran all over Pittsburgh and uh, I

737
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 3: think it's a different story.

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Speaker 2: Then he gets the D in his name, then I'd

739
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 2: give him the D. You writ your headlines, because the

740
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 2: headlines could be kind of fun.

741
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Speaker 3: If I'm not going to steal your thing.

742
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: Buddy, if this is what you're stealing, you are totally

743
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 2: out of ideas. I'm just saying, like, Al gets the

744
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 2: D and then you can write about how Moeger took

745
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 2: his D away. I'll combine two things here because we

746
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 2: don't we don't have a lot of time. Trey Hendrickson,

747
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 2: you wrote about the fact that it's weirdness chapter number

748
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 2: five hundred and six. Do you think that the team

749
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: bonding on the airplane took place because Trey wasn't on it?

750
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 3: Potentially, potentially maybe they just they just needed that extracted.

751
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,479
Speaker 3: I cannot, I cannot say that for certain exactly exactly why.

752
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 3: I mean, it'd be like if you weren't on it,

753
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 3: with the attitude that you clearly have towards you wouldn't.

754
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: Want If we're ever on a plane where we're stuck

755
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 2: for five hours, you should hope I get kicked off. Yeah,

756
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be very pleasant to be around.

757
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 2: You're not gonna want to bond with me.

758
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 3: Would you rather sit like on the tarmac outside the

759
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 3: plane or be on the plane.

760
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 2: I would rather jump out of a moving plane than

761
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: sit in either really quick, because we don't have a

762
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: lot of time here. And you wrote about the the

763
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 2: the Trey Hendrickson situation. To me, it's just like, you

764
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 2: know what, why not one more set of weird circumstances

765
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 2: for this guy before he leaves?

766
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it certainly feels that way. I mean

767
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 3: just feels like it's one of those where whenever Trey

768
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 3: feels like he wants to come back or or can

769
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 3: fight through this or whatever, he will, it's it's a

770
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 3: situation where nobody can nobody knows but Trey. And this

771
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 3: has kind of been when people ask me about this

772
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 3: all the time. What I kind of go back to

773
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 3: is there can be all the circumstances in the world

774
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 3: that tell you that, oh, he could be doing it

775
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 3: because of this, because he's going to be a free

776
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 3: agent and because he doesn't really care or whatever you

777
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 3: want to say is the reason. Or he's doing it

778
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 3: because he doesn't like the Bengals in the way that

779
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 3: they treated him, or whatever. Nobody really knows. But the

780
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 3: way this particular thing, this injury is, it's a it's

781
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 3: about how he views his pain, tolerance, willingness to play

782
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 3: through it, how he wants to, how he feels like

783
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 3: he can handle it. What going out they at less

784
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 3: than one hundred percent is worth to him to the team,

785
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 3: Like nobody really knows, but Trey in terms of what

786
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 3: exactly is happening here at least, it certainly feels that way.

787
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 3: It's it's it's up to him. And so we can

788
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 3: sit here and say what we want. I think there's

789
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 3: a lot of reasons you can look at and say, Man,

790
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 3: go play through something, Go go out there on third downs?

791
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: Can you can?

792
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 3: You can you give me what said Johnson's doing right now?

793
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 3: You know, give me the sub package third down off

794
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 3: the edge and something and and give me a you know,

795
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 3: a fourth give me a fourth quarter series?

796
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 2: Right? Can you do that?

797
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,399
Speaker 3: And I he said to me before the trade deadline, like, I, look,

798
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 3: I not really been through this before. I have a

799
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 3: standard for my play and I want to go out

800
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 3: there and play the level that I feel like I

801
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 3: want to play at. Now maybe that level is higher

802
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 3: because he doesn't feel the loyalty to this team because

803
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 3: of the way things went down, And that's all part

804
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 3: of it too. But nobody really knows.

805
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 2: But Trey art Monk is the answer to the question

806
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: when did Boomer through to artmost with the Jets. Yeah,

807
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 2: spend a year with the Jets, end of his Hall

808
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 2: of Fame career. Caught a touchdown pads from Art Monk.

809
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 3: Any question where Art Monk and Anthony Munhos are the answer,

810
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 3: I'm interested in.

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Speaker 2: Well done, mo, We'll see you next week. Beautifully played

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814
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 2: Elmore lives on that thing. Yeah, I mean you should

815
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Speaker 2: like put a paywall, an extra paywall behind that for him.

816
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 2: He'll pay, He'll pay.

817
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, all right, I'll just go ask him for

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Speaker 3: the money next time I see him.

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Speaker 2: Greens by two forty five. The roads were fine. Interstates

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Speaker 2: Oakley Greens if if not Oakley Greens after work, you know,

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Speaker 2: Santa Claus is gonna be here, which is a pretty

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Speaker 2: good get if you think about it this time of year.

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Speaker 2: To get Santa Claus to come to your establishment like that,

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Speaker 2: that's not easy to do. Santa Claus can literally be

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Speaker 2: anywhere in the world on Sunday, but he's gonna be

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Speaker 2: here from noon to three. You could watch the Bengals game.

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Speaker 2: This is on the fourteenth, not the seventh, So you

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Speaker 2: could watch the Bengals Ravens game with Santa Claus, Like,

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Speaker 2: are you kidding me? Santa Claus could literally watch eleven

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Speaker 2: days before Christmas. They're gonna have Santa Claus here, They're

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Speaker 2: gonna have reindeer, they're gonna have holiday vendors, the Bengals game,

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Speaker 2: and Santa hanging out. That's a week from Sunday, the fourteenth,

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Speaker 2: so by all means, come out this Sunday. It would

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Speaker 2: be a little bit much to ask Santa to come

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Speaker 2: from back to back Sundays. Again, maybe in July doesn't

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Speaker 2: have a lot going on, But you asked Santa Claus like,

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Speaker 2: what's your damn card looked like in December? Dude? Is

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Speaker 2: pulled in a thousand different directions. They've got him here

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Speaker 2: for three hours on the fourteenth. What they had to

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Speaker 2: pay to get Santa Claus to come here, I mean

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Speaker 2: imagine that appearance fee. So the fourteenth, Santa Claus here

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Speaker 2: at Oakley Greens and you can watch the Bengals game.

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Speaker 2: big deal. Awesome stuff from Paul Danner Junior. More on

882
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Speaker 2: the Bengals. In a bit, we're gonna go to Lexington.

883
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Speaker 2: Our friend Jeff Picuoro Kentucky has a new football coach

884
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Speaker 2: and Pick knows him, he knows all about him, and

885
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Speaker 2: we're going to talk about the UK football coaching dynamic

886
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Speaker 2: and so much more with Jeff coming up in just

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Speaker 2: about ten minutes. Also, it's a It's Giving Tuesday and

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Speaker 2: the Reds Community Fund. Although I think I might have

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Speaker 2: made a mistake on my tweet that I write Red's Museum.

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Speaker 2: No I wrote Red's Community. Yes, we'll do that coming

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Speaker 2: your phone calls between now and six as well, amid

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. Oh and by the way, while we're setting

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Speaker 2: we've got the QR code here at Oakley Greens quickly

914
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Speaker 2: Here Oftentimes on Tuesdays, while we do our show here

915
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Speaker 2: at Oakley Greens, we spend time on the UC Bearcats,

916
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: their next opponent. Obviously, UC is trying to find out

917
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 2: who their next opponent's going to be because they're gonna

918
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: play in a bowl game, not the Big Two championship game.

919
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 2: Tony and I spent some time on this yesterday. We

920
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 2: say this all the time that often in life, certainly

921
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 2: often in sports, there's room for multiple truths. You see

922
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 2: wins seven and five this year, Yes, that is better

923
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 2: than five and seven, pure math, seven and five better

924
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: than five and seven. This was a better team than

925
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 2: last year. They had more talent, They weren't as deficient

926
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 2: in some of the areas they were deficient in last year.

927
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: They were better for the most part on special teams.

928
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 2: The quarterback play was better. Brendan Sorosby had his struggles

929
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 2: during the four game winning streak, although I thought he

930
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: played well against TCU, but he was a more consistent,

931
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 2: better quarterback this year. Their offensive line was terrific for

932
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 2: much of the season. This was a better football team,

933
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 2: and they won more games, and seven and five compared

934
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 2: to five and seven and a year prior to that.

935
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: Three to nine certainly does represent progress. And you see

936
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 2: is going to play in a bowl game, and that's

937
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 2: tangible evidence of progress. Many of us said before the

938
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 2: season that anything shy of seven or eight wins in

939
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 2: a bowl game is going to be unacceptable, and I

940
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:23,919
Speaker 2: think that's true. Right they achieved that they achieved. One

941
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 2: might argue the bare minimum but that doesn't mean the

942
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: end of the season feels that fulfilling, and I think

943
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 2: that can be true as well. They lost their last

944
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 2: four games, They lost their last four games, and they

945
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 2: lost to good teams. I think Utah's good, b YU

946
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 2: is good. I think Arizona is better than that anybody

947
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 2: gave them or will give them credit for. I'm not

948
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 2: really sure how good TCU is, but they did win

949
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 2: eight games. But when I think of the four game

950
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 2: losing streak, I think of mistakes, the kind of mistakes

951
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,320
Speaker 2: that the Bearcats didn't make during the seven game winning streak.

952
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 2: I think have missed opportunity. How many opportunities did they

953
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 2: have specific in those games against Arizona and BYU that

954
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 2: could have swung the game, that could have won the game.

955
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 2: And so it's also the continuation of a theme. Yes,

956
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: seven wins is better than five, but the end of

957
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 2: the year didn't look exactly like it did in twenty

958
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 2: twenty four, but the results were the same, And so

959
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 2: can you really feel like there was that much progress

960
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 2: if we're talking about, to a large degree, the same

961
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 2: thing from one year to the next. End of the

962
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,720
Speaker 2: season five straight losses twenty twenty four end of the season.

963
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 2: Four straight losses twenty twenty five and maybe counting that

964
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 2: doesn't feel like progress. Also, I think this can be

965
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 2: true that relative to not only the seven and one start,

966
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 2: but what the UC Bearcats had at the top of

967
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 2: their roster, winning seven doesn't feel like enough. This was

968
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 2: a team that got if you want to call it

969
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 2: up a hometown discount, that's fine. But they got Brendan

970
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 2: Sorosby to come back, and they got Joe Royer to

971
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 2: come back, and Gavin Gerhardt came back, and Dante Corleone

972
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 2: came back, and Logan Wilson got another year of eligibility

973
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 2: in state here, and Jeff Caldwell joined the program, and

974
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 2: Cyrus Allen joined the program, and Matthew McDoom joined the program,

975
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 2: and Jack Dingle was back for another year, and Jake

976
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 2: Golday as well. All those guys are gone. Now it's

977
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 2: the Portal era and it's the nil era, and so

978
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 2: you're clearing some payrolls, so to speak, and you don't

979
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 2: have to dip into the freshman ranks or the high

980
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 2: school ranks to go find players to replace the dudes

981
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 2: I just mentioned. But that's a lot of guys to replace.

982
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 2: And so it kind of feels like a little bit

983
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 2: of a rebuild. Not go to in ten next year,

984
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 2: not struggle to make a bowl game, but it feels

985
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 2: like there's there's gonna be some rebuilding. And I didn't

986
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 2: even mention the name Brendan soresby which your guess is

987
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 2: as good as mine as to where he's gonna go.

988
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 2: I really like Brendan. I'm not sure I watched an

989
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 2: NFL quarterback, but I don't think it's a great class,

990
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 2: so I can understand jumping to the league. I could

991
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 2: also certainly envision a scenario where he gets paid more

992
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 2: money to play college football somewhere else. I don't know,

993
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 2: but that's a lot of pieces to replace that is

994
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 2: easier to swallow when you're better than seven and five.

995
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 2: Like it, it felt like twenty twenty three and twenty

996
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 2: twenty four were building to twenty twenty five. Not so

997
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 2: much because while it's year three and it's time to

998
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 2: make a ball game, but because of what the roster

999
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 2: looked like. Their best players from those years stayed with

1000
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 2: the program this year, and they added dudes for a

1001
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 2: season in many cases who weren't going to be here

1002
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 2: next year, and I ain't gonna move on from a

1003
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 2: whole lot of guys, a whole lot of foundational pieces.

1004
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 2: That is hard to do. That is hard to do.

1005
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 2: So Keith and Nickoson wrote about this Bearcat journal dot Com.

1006
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,240
Speaker 2: I thought very eloquently over the weekend, and I encourage

1007
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 2: you to read it. On one hand, yeah, man, successful season.

1008
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 2: I as a hardcore, die hard Bearcat fan, I have

1009
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 2: a hard time. I'm looking at this year as unmitigated failure,

1010
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 2: but the end of the season was unfulfilling. The fact

1011
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 2: that we're talking about a similar theme to last year

1012
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 2: is troubling, and there's a sense of letdown, even slight

1013
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 2: failure that after a seven and one start, they didn't

1014
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 2: win any more games. And now this three year stretch

1015
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 2: has peaked with a seven to five finish and a

1016
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 2: bowl game. I'm gonna guess most of the names I

1017
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 2: just mentioned don't play the bowl game. And now you're

1018
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 2: hitting the reset button with a large chunk of your roster.

1019
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 2: When you hit the reset button with a large chunk

1020
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 2: of your roster, you like to do that after your

1021
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 2: team has won something of major consequence. I'm not sure

1022
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 2: whatever bowl game they're gonna be in this year is

1023
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:50,720
Speaker 2: gonna qualify as major consequence. Your phone calls are welcome

1024
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 2: at five, one, three, seven, four nine, fifteen thirty. Kentucky

1025
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: has a new football coach. Jeff Picorro calls their games.

1026
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 2: Joins us next on ESPN fifteen thirty.

1027
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 5: Cincinnati's This is Football in the Natti brought to you

1028
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:10,240
Speaker 5: by Modern Office Methods on ESPN fifteen thirty, the official

1029
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 5: home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

1030
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 2: Twenty three after four. This is ESPN fifteen thirty. The

1031
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 2: University of Kentucky has a new football coach, Will Stein,

1032
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 2: who is a Kentucky native. His dad played at Kentucky.

1033
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 2: Will went to Louisville. He replaces Mark Stoops, who had

1034
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 2: been in Lexington for I think the last thirty five years.

1035
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,919
Speaker 2: Jeff Percorro, color analyst UK football, longtime friend of this show.

1036
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 2: In this radio station ABC thirty six and Lexington is

1037
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 2: with us high pick. How are you mo, I'm well yourself.

1038
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 10: I'm great. I am so fun to be on the

1039
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 10: show with you. And let me just say this, thirdbody

1040
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 10: can hear us. I'm still happy Tony is back too,

1041
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 10: because the two of you are fantastic together.

1042
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 2: Well, you and me both. And that's way too kind

1043
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 2: of you. Why let's before we look ahead, let's look back.

1044
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,240
Speaker 2: Why did things kind of get sideways under Mark Stukes

1045
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 2: the last couple of years.

1046
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 10: Well, you know, no, every every job you take, you're

1047
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 10: always looking to get better yourself. And I think three

1048
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 10: years ago, you know, he had one foot out the

1049
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 10: door to Texas A and M and I think it

1050
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 10: came back to bite.

1051
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 8: Him a little bit.

1052
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 10: And I just I don't know if you say the

1053
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 10: fire wasn't there, but it just, you know, I just

1054
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 10: don't believe you're gonna have guys like Joe Patterno and

1055
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 10: what he hates anymore.

1056
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 8: That's Stevan.

1057
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 10: Look at Saban, you know, ten, ten, twelve, fourteen years,

1058
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 10: that's about it. At one job, they you know, five

1059
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 10: years ago they were ready to build statues from Mark

1060
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 10: and they were also gonna build a statue for John Calipari.

1061
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,959
Speaker 8: And then they couldn't wait till they both of them left.

1062
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 8: It's amazing now you're right about that?

1063
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: Uh?

1064
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 2: Will Stein is the guy? Are you excited about this?

1065
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 8: I am?

1066
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 10: And because okay, Moeller's quarterback, right, Matt Konatowski, he's a

1067
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 10: he's a four star quarterbacks number twelve, fourteenth in the country.

1068
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 10: He has said that he has not waivered one bit.

1069
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 10: He's actually going to be at tomorrow. They're having a

1070
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 10: big press conference to introduce Stein to everyone, and he

1071
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 10: said he's going to be there and show his support

1072
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 10: for his new coach.

1073
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 8: So that's kind of cool.

1074
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 2: All right, very good. Why is he the guy?

1075
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 10: Well, I mean, you can look at the offense that

1076
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 10: Oregon has. I mean, there are two offenses that are

1077
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 10: absolutely ridiculous in college football. I'm sure there's a lot more,

1078
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,959
Speaker 10: but you look at Oregon, you look at Ohio State,

1079
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 10: both of them close to five hundred yards. Two years ago,

1080
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 10: Oregon's offense averaged.

1081
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 8: Over five hundred yards a game.

1082
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 10: They averaged this year thirty nine points, last year thirty eight.

1083
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 8: The year before was over forty.

1084
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 10: So look, in this era of college football, you have

1085
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 10: to score to win, and I don't mean seventeen points.

1086
00:54:55,960 --> 00:55:00,720
Speaker 10: Those days are gone. Of seventeen fourteen scores. Score twenty

1087
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 10: eight points in a game, you're not gonna win very many.

1088
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 10: H He's an exciting brand, he's a younger guy. He's

1089
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 10: embraced the nil and the transfer portal, and that's a

1090
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 10: thing that took.

1091
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Speaker 8: You know, you look at all.

1092
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 10: These older coaches who are saying.

1093
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Speaker 8: I can't do this.

1094
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 11: Nick Saban, he's you.

1095
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Speaker 10: Know, you'd have thought he coached forever. He just said,

1096
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Speaker 10: I'm not into paying these kids.

1097
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Speaker 8: And you know, so, I think it's.

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00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 10: Huge that whatever program you have, be at Cincinnati, Kentucky

1099
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 10: or USC, you've got to have somebody that understands the

1100
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 10: nuances of now college football.

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Speaker 2: Is does he inherit a roster where he's gonna want

1102
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Speaker 2: most of those guys back?

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Speaker 10: Uh? Yeah, I think that this is a This is

1104
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 10: a really good roster that there was one thing here

1105
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 10: you were there is two things you're You were very

1106
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 10: senior oriented, especially in the offensive line, but everywhere else.

1107
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 10: It was a great sophomore class this year that Stoops

1108
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 10: brought in two and some three years ago. A lot

1109
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 10: of them were also red shirts. He's got a kid

1110
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 10: like Cutter Bowlliot quarterback who's still three more years to play,

1111
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 10: a great building block, two running backs coming back. The

1112
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 10: weakness is going to be offensive line, but the defensive

1113
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 10: line is stout. The secondary is really good. They've got

1114
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 10: two juco players that have committed and another one yesterday.

1115
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 10: Six twenty five pounders, so it's a pretty good roster. Well,

1116
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 10: it really is. I just think that there was a

1117
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 10: little staleness around the program and that's gone now and

1118
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 10: I think there's a lot of excitement. Look, you want

1119
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 10: to bring somebody in that's going to cite the fan base.

1120
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Speaker 10: And it was between Heartline and Ohio State and Stein

1121
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 10: that was the final two. And with Heartline, you know

1122
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 10: that it's just a part time gig for him until

1123
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 10: Ryan Day leaves and he takes a job at Ohio State.

1124
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Speaker 10: So I'd love to have Heartline here. I think he's

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Speaker 10: a fantastic coach, but a kid like Stein would be

1126
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 10: here for ten or twelve.

1127
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 2: Years with Mark Steubs And look, he had ten wins seasons.

1128
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 2: He accomplished a lot. But it did feel at the

1129
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 2: end like it was time. After the Louisville game, he

1130
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 2: was emphatic, I'm not going anywhere. You wouldn't expect him

1131
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 2: to have given the fact that, uh, you know, he'd

1132
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 2: be leaving a lot of money on the table, but

1133
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,760
Speaker 2: just given what he had done and given that buyout

1134
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 2: that he's going to get, were you surprised that things

1135
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 2: went down at the end of the way they.

1136
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 10: Did not, particularly because he he and Mitch Barnhardt, the

1137
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 10: athletic directors, sat down and I in his contract if

1138
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 10: he was terminated, which would have been with Sunday, in

1139
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,959
Speaker 10: his contract with sixty days, they had totained thirty seven

1140
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 10: point seven million dollars and that was the sticking point.

1141
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 10: And he went in and I don't know what the

1142
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 10: final numbers were or the years, but he he, I guess,

1143
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 10: gave in and said, look, we can spread this out.

1144
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 10: I wanted to make this as amicable as possible. And

1145
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 10: just today, about thirty minutes ago, well, he put out

1146
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 10: a really nice statement saying, you know, he thanked the university,

1147
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 10: all his players, coaches, and Big Blue Nation, and you know,

1148
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 10: blah blah blah.

1149
00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 8: But the key was spreading that out.

1150
00:57:59,640 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 2: Now.

1151
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 10: I know, if it's ten years, it's still three point

1152
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 10: seven million a year. That's pretty good salary for the

1153
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 10: next ten years for sitting on you know, sitting.

1154
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 8: On your back porch and smoking a cigar.

1155
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 2: I'd I'd like to do exactly that with a fracture

1156
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 2: of that kind of money from an NIL perspective, And

1157
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 2: this is the question that gets asked with every job

1158
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 2: in America, every coach that gets hired. What's the NIL situation?

1159
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 2: Is it good? Is it where it needs to be?

1160
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 2: Where's it going to be under the new guy?

1161
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 8: I think it's good but not great.

1162
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 10: And the reason I say that is because you have

1163
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 10: to remember there's a behemoth here that feeds the commonwealth

1164
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 10: and that Kentucky basketball, and they have to get their share.

1165
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 4: You know.

1166
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 10: You know, they only give you twenty million dollars in

1167
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 10: the SEC, so it's not split fifty to fifty, but

1168
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 10: it's it's a pretty pretty fair amount goes to the

1169
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 10: basketball team, you know.

1170
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I mean, is there is there a ground

1171
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 2: swell of support to increase that for football? As Will

1172
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 2: Stein that is going to be asked about nil? What

1173
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 2: should this look like realistically moving forward for football? Yeah?

1174
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 10: I think we could talk about this all day. But basically,

1175
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 10: the twenty million is what is given to you by

1176
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 10: the NCAA, and then anything outside of that has to

1177
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 10: be a true nil. Meaning you can't just pay a

1178
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 10: guy money. He has to do a commercial. He has

1179
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 10: to actually do something supposedly for the money.

1180
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 2: Right.

1181
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 10: You can't just say here's a car and one hundred

1182
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 10: thousand dollars come.

1183
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 8: To our school, you know, So that's the deal.

1184
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 10: And and JMI, which is the media outlet for the

1185
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 10: University of Kitsuch.

1186
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 8: I think lear Field is for Cincinnati, you would know that.

1187
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 10: But you know, they pay a lot of money and

1188
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 10: they're they're the ones that kind of the gatekeeper for NIL.

1189
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 10: They have a huge collective down here that they take

1190
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 10: care of. And that's one of the buckets is how

1191
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 10: do we got twenty how do we fill these other

1192
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 10: buckets to match that as it just for instance, you know,

1193
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 10: Lane Kiffin, supposedly Elis you said, we'll give you twenty

1194
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:10,479
Speaker 10: five million dollars to build a football team.

1195
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 8: So that's what you're up against.

1196
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 2: All right, So you got Kentucky and Carolina tonight, and

1197
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 2: then amid all this, the volleyball team might win a

1198
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 2: national title, right wow.

1199
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Speaker 10: You know that's the thing that's crazy. They're going to

1200
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 10: be at home all the way to the final four

1201
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,439
Speaker 10: as a number one seed and the number two team

1202
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 10: in the nation. So it's pretty exciting. I don't know

1203
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 10: if you've ever been. It's really cool to go see

1204
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 10: in a person, it's it's it's actually a pretty exciting

1205
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 10: and fun event to go see.

1206
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:38,919
Speaker 8: But they're good.

1207
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 11: But yeah, basketball team plays.

1208
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 10: North Carolina tonight at nine thirty and then they turn

1209
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 10: around to play goa Zagon on Friday.

1210
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 8: It's there.

1211
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:46,919
Speaker 11: I'll tell you what.

1212
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 10: People wanted them to play this hard, hard schedule. So

1213
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 10: Mark Posts is sure, I'll take anybody. Well, he's lost

1214
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 10: twice already on national television to Louisville Michigan State. Here's

1215
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 10: the problem, Mo, You're probably gonna lose four or five

1216
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 10: games in conference, right if you lose to North Carolina

1217
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 10: tonight and possibly to Gonzaga on Friday. Now you're up

1218
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 10: against it in trying to get into just get into

1219
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 10: the NCAA tournament with all these losses.

1220
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Mark Mark Pope looked like he was looking

1221
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 2: for a rope after that Michigan State game, which was

1222
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 2: not encouraging. All right, tell me quickly. You know Will

1223
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 2: Stein's dad pretty well, right, Yeah.

1224
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 10: Matt and I were roommates back then, and Tony will

1225
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 10: tell you all about this. We had what was supposedly

1226
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 10: two a days, but three days we lived. So we

1227
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 10: lived on campus together in the dorm and and he

1228
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 10: was my roommate my sophomore year. So yeah, he's a

1229
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 10: great guy. He played defensive end. He's an attorney in

1230
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 10: Louisville now and still a huge He and his wife

1231
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 10: both are UK graduates, so it'll be fun to see

1232
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 10: him tomorrow at the press conference.

1233
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 2: All right, you have a lot going on. I appreciate

1234
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 2: the time as always.

1235
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 8: Man, thanks so much anytime. Oh see, buddy, that's our.

1236
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 2: That's our guy. Jeff Pikoro, UK color analyst on the

1237
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 2: UK Network for football and ABC thirty six in Lexington,

1238
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 2: Kentucky plays North Carolina tonight nine thirty tip on ESPN

1239
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty and picks right the Wildcats. They played well

1240
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 2: in certain stretches against Louisville. They played well in zero

1241
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 2: stretches against Michigan State. Mark Pope look despondent. They have

1242
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 2: a game tonight against Carolina, then in Nashville on Friday

1243
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 2: at tilt against Gonzaga. All of this mid basketball. By

1244
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 2: the way, Xavier's in the NCAA tournament. I'm trying to

1245
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 2: get the coach on, but thus far no correspondence back.

1246
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 2: The women's coach at Xavier is a Daton grant and

1247
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 2: I won't even bring that up. We're way in Lake

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Speaker 2: The Bengals signed quarterback Jalen Kimber to the practice squad.

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Speaker 2: He is a rookie out of Penn State College, free

1277
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Speaker 2: agent signee of Tennessee back in May, waived by the

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Speaker 2: Rodgers has another wide receiver to yell at. Former Vikings

1283
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Speaker 2: wide out Adam Thielen has been claimed on waivers by Pittsburgh,

1284
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Speaker 2: that program before Friday night's Skyline Chili Crosstown Shootout. We

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Speaker 2: are at Oakley Greens hanging out till six o'clock. Oakley

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Speaker 2: Green's a great place to watch the Skyline Chili Crosstown Shootout. Plus,

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Speaker 2: Anthony Munios is going to be here on the twenty first.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not sure you heard me mention this before,

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Speaker 2: but Santa Claus is going to be here December fourteenth. Again.

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Speaker 2: It amazes me that they got Santa Claus this time year.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's Giving Tuesday. This time year, you got

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Speaker 2: Black Friday, you got Cyber Monday. Most importantly, you have

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Speaker 2: Giving Tuesday. And the Reds Community Fund has announced a

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Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars Giving Tuesday match from its board members

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Speaker 2: to tomorrow's Giving. The Giving Tuesday fundraising campaign efforts raising

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Speaker 2: money for scholarships benefiting thirty two graduating high school seniors

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Speaker 2: participating in the REDS RBI program. The executive director of

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Speaker 2: the Reds Community Fund. Who will put all of this

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Speaker 2: far more eloquently than I just tried to is our

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Speaker 2: friend Charlie Frank, who's with us now.

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Speaker 12: Hi, Charlie, I know, I hope I can deliver for

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Speaker 12: you when it comes to el.

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Speaker 2: Better than I just tried. Nonetheless, it's nice to have you.

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Speaker 2: How are you.

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Speaker 12: I'm doing great, thanks, and I think he did just fine.

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Speaker 12: This is Giving Tuesday. Man, it's a crazy day for

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Speaker 12: I don't know anyone that has an email inbox. There's

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Speaker 12: a lot flowing through and we're guilty of that. But

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Speaker 12: it's a great concept, and you know, we're making some

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Speaker 12: good progress today in our efforts to help our thirty

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Speaker 12: two seniors.

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Speaker 2: All Right, dive into specifics for me. What's happening today?

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Speaker 12: Well, we received a ten thousand dollars match from the

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Speaker 12: red Community Fund Board and we're trying by the end

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Speaker 12: of the day to day to get to that ten

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Speaker 12: thousand dollars level from the general public. And that twenty

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Speaker 12: thousand dollars will go a long way towards our efforts

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Speaker 12: to provide a fifteen hundred dollars finish line scholarship to

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Speaker 12: all of our graduating seniors WET thirty two of them

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Speaker 12: last year and mo get this. Last year we had

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Speaker 12: a class of thirty eight. Nineteen of them went on

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Speaker 12: to play either baseball or softball at the collegiate level.

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Speaker 12: So that's not what it's all about, but it's really

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Speaker 12: cool when those numbers are growing and the kids are

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Speaker 12: getting a lot out of our program, both on the

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Speaker 12: field and off and today's a way to make sure

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Speaker 12: and when they get to the finish line that we

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Speaker 12: have scholarship dollars waiting for them, they don't have to

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Speaker 12: apply for them. If they meet the GPA, if they

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Speaker 12: check the box on all the community service requirements in

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Speaker 12: our workshop and seminar requirements and our efforts to create

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Speaker 12: major league citizens, and they'll receive the check.

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Speaker 11: No questions asked.

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Speaker 12: Whether they're going to school, whether going to whether they're

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Speaker 12: going to a trade school, whether they're going into the workforce,

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Speaker 12: the military. It doesn't have to be something about college.

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Speaker 12: But we just want to reward them for the great

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Speaker 12: work that they're doing to build their lives through the

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Speaker 12: you know, the Reds Community Fund and Arts Academy.

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Speaker 2: And folks can get involved. How do they do so.

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Speaker 12: If you go to Reds dot com slash Giving Tuesday,

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Speaker 12: it'll give you options on how to jump in, it'll

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Speaker 12: give you more information along with a handful of testimonials

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Speaker 12: from some of our senior student athletes, and it'll tell

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Speaker 12: you a little bit about why this is so meaningful.

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Speaker 12: You know, a lot of the kids that we support

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Speaker 12: don't necessarily have you know, college on their trajectory for

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Speaker 12: a host of reasons these days, let's face it. I mean,

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Speaker 12: there's so many reasons that kids may not opt traditional

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Speaker 12: undergraduate experiences these days. But you know, we're we're trying

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Speaker 12: to make sure that our seniors are leaving our program

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Speaker 12: with some support that really makes it easier for them

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Speaker 12: to move onto whatever that next stage might be. For that,

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Speaker 12: but red dot com slash Giving Tuesday is the address

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Speaker 12: where people can go.

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Speaker 2: Reds dot com slash Giving Tuesday. I bring this up

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Speaker 2: to you often, and you've been kind enough to join

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Speaker 2: me frequently over over the years. The Reds Community Fund has,

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Speaker 2: for lack of a better way of putting it, been

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Speaker 2: in business for such a long time now that it's

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Speaker 2: got to be so rewarding to see from from adults,

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Speaker 2: from from men and women who have benefited from the

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Speaker 2: program to see your work paid dividends with what they're doing.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's incredible.

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Speaker 7: Mo.

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Speaker 12: I can't put it in words. I mean, we celebrated

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Speaker 12: our twenty fifth year of existence this year, and you know,

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Speaker 12: probably the centerpiece of that effort, certainly not the only thing,

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Speaker 12: but you know, the opening of our Red Youth Academy

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Speaker 12: back in twenty fourteen, with Joe Morgan really being at

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Speaker 12: the forefront of that effort, not just figuratively, but you know,

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Speaker 12: really helping us raise money. And it was his initiative initially,

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Speaker 12: you know, when they opened their first academy in Coton,

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Speaker 12: California in.

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Speaker 7: Two thousand and six.

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Speaker 12: So opening the doors that facility was probably are you know,

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Speaker 12: our most notable accomplishment. But there's so much every day,

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Speaker 12: even today on a snow day, you know, I saw

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Speaker 12: some kids and family members over in the building, you know,

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Speaker 12: working on their games and working in the classroom. It's

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Speaker 12: you know, if you're not if you're paying attention every day,

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Speaker 12: you can see the impact. And I am so fortunate

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Speaker 12: because you know, I spend part of my time at

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Speaker 12: the at Great American Ballpark and I tap into all

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Speaker 12: the great energy there, regardless of what's going on with

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Speaker 12: the team, and every single day I have the you know,

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Speaker 12: the privilege to be able to pop into the academy,

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Speaker 12: you know, seven days a week and see all the

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Speaker 12: cool things going on there. And if you walk in

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Speaker 12: the front door and you see our player progress wall,

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Speaker 12: it features about thirty to forty young men and women

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Speaker 12: that have made our Hall of Fame. And it's young

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Speaker 12: men and women that aren't necessarily our best on the field.

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Speaker 12: Some of them are, but it's the ones that really

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Speaker 12: are so well rounded that have earned scholarship money. And

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Speaker 12: mo I would say that probably a third of those

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Speaker 12: kids to your question are still involved either as volunteers,

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Speaker 12: as coaches, some of them as red staff, some of

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Speaker 12: them you know, have been trainers. I mean, it's the

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Speaker 12: connections to a lot of the young people that have

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Speaker 12: come through our program. It's a living and breathing thing

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Speaker 12: that really makes this work stand out.

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Speaker 2: You can make a donation on Giving Tuesday to the

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Speaker 2: REDS Community Fund and they're giving Tuesday campaign REDS dot

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Speaker 2: com slash Giving Tuesday. There's plenty of time between now

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Speaker 2: and midnight, so get that on REDS dot com slash

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Speaker 2: giving Tuesday. The work of the Nike Reds RBI program

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Speaker 2: and of course the Red's Community Fund just absolutely awesome. Charlie,

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Speaker 2: always good to have you man.

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Speaker 7: Thanks so much, Mode, thank you so much.

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Speaker 12: I appreciate all your help with us anytime.

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Speaker 2: That's our guy, Charlie Frank my favorite Tri state charitable arm,

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Speaker 2: the Reds Community Fund, reds dot Com slash Giving Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: It is twelve away from five o'clock. This is ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. Our guy, Sean Sayed from the Stats and

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Speaker 2: Scheme newsletter joins us every Tuesday. He is going to

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Speaker 2: join us at five twenty. We have yet to throw

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Speaker 2: out a pole question. We got to do that thanks

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Speaker 2: to United Heartland Insurance. We'll get to that. We have

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Speaker 2: a lot of ground to cover. I have changed my

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Speaker 2: mind about Joe Burrow. That and a very quick take,

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Speaker 2: early preliminary take, if you will, on the skyline Chile

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Speaker 2: Crosstown shootout still ahead here at Oakley Greens on ESPN

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Speaker 2: fifteen thirty. Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Six away from A five. This is ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Your phone calls are coming up five one, three, seven,

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Speaker 2: four nine fifteen thirty. Only got about a minute here.

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Speaker 2: I will tell you this. If you missed yesterday's Tony

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Speaker 2: and Mo Football show, you can go and get it

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Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app. It's also on my page at

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty dot com. Tony and I talked about

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Speaker 2: yesterday again. Like I am, I am, I am. I

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Speaker 2: want to say optimistic. I'm hopeful that the Bengals can

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Speaker 2: go to Buffalo and win and stay in the race.

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Speaker 2: What they need to do to get to the postseason

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Speaker 2: is pretty damn herculean. There there's obviously a pathway where

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Speaker 2: they finish eight to nine and win the division. I

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Speaker 2: don't think any of us want to go down it.

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Speaker 2: My fear is Baltimore beats Pittsburgh twice and then then

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of pressure to win that second game

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Speaker 2: against against the Baltimore Ravens. We will see, but I

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Speaker 2: do think there's something like, just I'm only looking at

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Speaker 2: this from a fans perspective. If you're a Ravens fan

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Speaker 2: or a Steelers fan, understanding that your team has some

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Speaker 2: some some issues, how do you feel about the Bengals

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Speaker 2: not being dead going into a month where historically they

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Speaker 2: have been really good. More on that coming up on

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati.

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Speaker 5: Sports, ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Oh, guess guess what day it is, Doc dudesday, sure is.

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Speaker 2: We're at Oakley Greens. It's Oakley Greens Tuesday. This is

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty Upowager. Thank you so much for listening today.

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Speaker 2: By the way, we've talked a lot today about all

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Speaker 2: the stuff happening at Oakley Greens. I am I'm on

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Speaker 2: Instagram right now. I'm looking at on Instagram, and the

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Speaker 2: Oakley Greens Instagram feed has an awesome giveaways for Friday

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Speaker 2: night's Skyline Chili Frosstown Shootout. So you should go check

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Speaker 2: out Oakley Greens on Instagram right now, especially if you'd

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Speaker 2: like for a really cool experience for the game on Friday,

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Speaker 2: you see and Xavier, which we're gonna talk about that

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Speaker 2: game a little bit later on at Oakley Greens. That's

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Speaker 2: that's where we are. We are literally at Oakley Greens.

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Speaker 2: We are hanging out until six o'clock. We're here every Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: This place will have Santa Claus on the fourteenth, and

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Speaker 2: they'll have Anthony Munno's Meet and Greed on the twenty first,

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Speaker 2: an hour before the Bengals game. It's a great place

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Speaker 2: for the Skyline Chili Crosstown shootout, great plays for your

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Speaker 2: holiday get togethers. And by the way, yes open despite

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Speaker 2: the snow we got overnight. So there you go. Oakley Greens.

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Speaker 2: We love coming out here and come on out and

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Speaker 2: it's been part of your December with the folks at

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Speaker 2: Oakley Greens. What do we have? Our guy Sean Saya

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Speaker 2: at Stats and Scheme Newsletter is going to join us

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Speaker 2: to talk about the suddenly improving Bengals and something I've teased,

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Speaker 2: as we say, but haven't had a chance to get

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Speaker 2: to is why I've changed my mind at least to

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Speaker 2: a degree on Joe Burrow. But let's take a phone

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Speaker 2: caller too. We have not had an opportunity to do that.

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Speaker 2: And because if the Thanksgiving holiday and taking last Wednesday off,

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Speaker 2: I feel like I haven't talked to folks in our

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Speaker 2: vest listening audience and like forever. So let's chat with

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Speaker 2: Sam and independent. Sam, thank you for your patience. You're

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Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty. Sam. How are you.

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Speaker 13: I'm doing pretty good. Mo shoveled the driveway today, so

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Speaker 13: I got something done.

1502
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:13,759
Speaker 2: Very nice.

1503
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 7: I'm calling I.

1504
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 13: A video of you talking on Thanksgiving Day from your

1505
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 13: house happened.

1506
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 7: To be in my YouTube feed.

1507
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 2: That's never good.

1508
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:31,719
Speaker 13: I believe this was the day after the debacle against

1509
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 13: EMU at fifth third. And I I agree with what

1510
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 13: you say said about things feeling adrift. Yeah, but I

1511
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:46,719
Speaker 13: want I started thinking not just about you see basketball,

1512
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 13: but you see football. It's just everything feels just so

1513
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 13: uninteresting right now.

1514
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 8: It's it's just so it's almost.

1515
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 7: A chore to keep up with it.

1516
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 13: Yeah, and it it just seems like the points you

1517
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:09,559
Speaker 13: made about by game losses and I started thinking about

1518
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 13: some games Kentucky loss to buy games, and they had

1519
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 13: common trends. There was one against Evansville in twenty nineteen.

1520
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 13: Evansville had a guy that scored twenty nine points and

1521
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 13: scored six points in the last ninety seconds. Kentucky lost

1522
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 13: a game in twenty twenty three to you, and I

1523
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 13: believe you wudn't see Wilmington where you wudn't see Wilmington,

1524
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 13: A team that shot barely thirty percent from three shot

1525
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 13: forty five percent from three right in that game with

1526
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 13: U see and even applying this to last night, I

1527
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 13: know they won by sixteen or eighteen or whatever it was. Yeah,

1528
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 13: against the team coach against the team coached by.

1529
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:54,559
Speaker 8: Well, we know who coaches Tonald State.

1530
01:18:54,640 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 13: But yeah, yeah, that bad guy, uh somehow was coach

1531
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 13: Kentucky at one point when they when they had seven

1532
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 13: active players and they were only up two at halftime.

1533
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 13: It's not that you see is the victim of overqualified

1534
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 13: players who have to play at a lower level and

1535
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 13: seventh year seniors who used to be at big programs

1536
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:21,720
Speaker 13: or teams are just unconscious from three or as you

1537
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 13: said in your video, the three point shot will always

1538
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:28,640
Speaker 13: be the great equalizer in basketball between talent levels.

1539
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:32,639
Speaker 12: But with you see, it's just not.

1540
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 8: It's none of that.

1541
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:38,320
Speaker 13: It's just that they go out there and they play uninspired,

1542
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:41,400
Speaker 13: lazy basketball, and they turn the ball over twelve times.

1543
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 2: I would I would love twelve times. Have you twelve

1544
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 2: times and a half?

1545
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's in the first half.

1546
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 13: I mean seven or eight of them were just from

1547
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 13: from Bob A.

1548
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 2: Miller. Yeah, So on the bye game, because here was

1549
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 2: here was I did do a video on Thanksgiving morning nine.

1550
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 2: I appreciate you watching it. My take on that game was,

1551
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 2: you know, they do happen. Mick had won the year

1552
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 2: that he went to the Sweet sixteen, they lost to Presbyterian.

1553
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 2: He had a couple very early in his tenure, and

1554
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 2: when they happen, you know, they're either like you know,

1555
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 2: mixed first two years where they're rebuilding and they just

1556
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 2: felt like inevitable speed bumps. You play enough games with

1557
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 2: the team that's not ready, they're gonna stumble into a

1558
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 2: game that they shouldn't lose. Or other team has a

1559
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 2: dude who maybe is better than the level that he's

1560
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 2: playing at and he goes off. He scores twenty eight

1561
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 2: or thirty and nobody can guard him and it was

1562
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 2: just his night. Well, Eastern Michigan's leading scorer scored fifteen,

1563
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 2: that wasn't the case. Or you know what, they just

1564
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 2: go unconscious from three. You see this happen in the

1565
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:50,600
Speaker 2: NCAA tournament a lot, right, That's how upsets happened. Or

1566
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 2: the lower seeded team just they're nuts from behind the arc.

1567
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 2: And sometimes in a by game that'll happen, or sometimes

1568
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 2: they just play well enough to hang around and then

1569
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 2: if a game is close in the last two minutes,

1570
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 2: some crazy stuff can happen. None of those things were

1571
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 2: in play on Wednesday. UC just got their tail kicked

1572
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:11,679
Speaker 2: by what might be an okay in the MAC Eastern

1573
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 2: Michigan team that is not supposed to happen. That that

1574
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:19,760
Speaker 2: is not certainly doesn't have to define their season. But

1575
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:22,679
Speaker 2: I think the frustrating thing for me is Number One,

1576
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 2: it wasn't a flukey type game. It just felt like

1577
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:27,600
Speaker 2: Eastern Michigan came in and worked them. Number Two, I

1578
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 2: don't think it was that surprising. I don't think it

1579
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 2: was that shocking that they lost that game because they

1580
01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 2: had played so unevenly. I like how they defended in

1581
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:38,639
Speaker 2: the first half against Louisville. I thought that I thought

1582
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:41,480
Speaker 2: that was worth building on, and Wes tried to accentuate

1583
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 2: that after the game, but they were atrocious on offense

1584
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:47,639
Speaker 2: in the second half. They haven't done anything so far

1585
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 2: in any of these games this season, whether it's been

1586
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 2: against a good team like Louisville, a good team like Dayton,

1587
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 2: or in any of the bye games, to make you

1588
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 2: feel like they're gonna be a force to be reckoned

1589
01:21:57,240 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 2: with in the Big twelve many field. They're gonna lose

1590
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:03,440
Speaker 2: to a Xavier team that is not that talented. Although improving.

1591
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 2: The thing about the Eastern Michigan game was it it

1592
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:11,639
Speaker 2: just it didn't feel that shocking. And at this stage

1593
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 2: in the program's development with this coach, when you lose

1594
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 2: a game like that, you should it should either feel

1595
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 2: fluky or shocking, and Wednesday night felt like neither.

1596
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:20,759
Speaker 8: I agree.

1597
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:21,680
Speaker 7: It's it's just.

1598
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 13: And I mean it happens to everyone. Duke has lost

1599
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 13: by games under coach k in the last but.

1600
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:34,679
Speaker 2: Xavier a few weeks ago got worked by Santa Clair.

1601
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 8: You can.

1602
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, look, it's it's it's a new coach. It's

1603
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 2: a roster that everybody Yeah, by everybody's own admission, is

1604
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 2: just not that talented and okay, like it's not good.

1605
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 2: It was painful to watch in real time if you're

1606
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 2: a Xavier fan, but you kind of shrug your shoulders

1607
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 2: and go, you know what, this might be a part

1608
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 2: of the process Wes. In his fifth season, he has

1609
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 2: a team that has been looked at as one that

1610
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:06,800
Speaker 2: has to get to the NCAA tournament for him to

1611
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 2: save his job. Whether or not that's the case, you know,

1612
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 2: we'll find out. I guess when that dynamic is in play.

1613
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 2: You're not supposed to be getting worked by Eastern Michigan.

1614
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,160
Speaker 2: They lost that game by eight points, and I know

1615
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 2: they made a run in the second half, but it

1616
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 2: never felt like they were in danger Eastern Michigan of

1617
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:25,680
Speaker 2: losing the game. It never felt like the Bearcats were

1618
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 2: in control of it. They scored fifty six points against

1619
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 2: the team that was picked to finish ninth in the MAC.

1620
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 2: They got out rebounded, they got out worked. That's not

1621
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:35,559
Speaker 2: supposed to be happening right now.

1622
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:37,719
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's it's.

1623
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 13: That's the thing the fifth years is. In his fifth year,

1624
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 13: this is a roster he put together with with with

1625
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 13: you see Santa Clair blowing out Zaber. You can say, fine,

1626
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 13: it's it's almost like when when you see lost the

1627
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 13: wall for many.

1628
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 2: Mixed first year. It was the first year they lost by.

1629
01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:00,680
Speaker 13: Davis was the interim head coach, and he got and

1630
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 13: UC got worked in their first game.

1631
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:03,679
Speaker 8: I think they might have VCU.

1632
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, it's VCU. That was a home and home

1633
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:08,680
Speaker 2: and that was a VCU team that went to the

1634
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:10,719
Speaker 2: tournament that year, nearly beat Ohios team.

1635
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 13: Yeah, but you can have an excuse Rick Patino's first

1636
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 13: year of Kentucky in eighty nine, they lost to Southeast Louisiana, right,

1637
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:24,679
Speaker 13: and they're homeover when things are going to rebuild or

1638
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:26,760
Speaker 13: in the case of the Larry Davis thing, when you

1639
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 13: see basketball was about a leadership of the program at

1640
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 13: that point was about as stable as the Soviet unions

1641
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 13: of nineteen ninety.

1642
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 11: You can explain losses like that.

1643
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 13: You can't say anything about we were at one point

1644
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 13: we played Eastern Michigan, who when they who isn't very

1645
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:52,479
Speaker 13: good in the Ken Palm rankings during the three hundreds.

1646
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:55,439
Speaker 8: They think you.

1647
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 2: Talk about like they happen. When they happen, they feel

1648
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 2: fluky because the coach of the program has a long

1649
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 2: track record of success. I was in high school and

1650
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 2: I remember the Friday night in nineteen ninety four. I'll

1651
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 2: never forget this. I'll never forget this, the night they

1652
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:13,839
Speaker 2: lost a Baron Delta Beicac Classic. They lost to Kenesians.

1653
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 2: They had a twenty and but you're like, all right,

1654
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:19,880
Speaker 2: that's weird. That was a team with Danny Fords and

1655
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 2: Lazelle Dirton, Darnell Burton, Keith Lagree, Art Long and it

1656
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 2: was just like it didn't define their season. They won

1657
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 2: the Great Midwest Tournament. That year they played in the

1658
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:32,680
Speaker 2: NCAA Tournament. But it was like, all right, for three

1659
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 2: years this team has been awesome. They stubbed their toe

1660
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 2: at the worst possible, you know time, and they lost

1661
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:42,760
Speaker 2: to Canisius. That's not who they are, Mick losing the Presbyterian.

1662
01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 2: It was a bunch of dudes who had made the

1663
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 2: second round of the tournament the year before. Was the

1664
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:50,600
Speaker 2: Nancy Gates and Sean Kilpatrick and Kashmir Right, and you're like,

1665
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:53,640
Speaker 2: all right, this isn't who this team is supposed to be.

1666
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 2: It felt weird, and you just shrug your shoulders and go,

1667
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 2: all right, these things happen. There's a track record of

1668
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 2: success that makes you feel like they'll get better from

1669
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 2: this and this will prove to be an outlier that

1670
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 2: UC team went to the Sweet sixteen. I like Wes

1671
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 2: Miller a lot, but you can't say that about him.

1672
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:13,760
Speaker 2: What's the signature win, the track record of success where

1673
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 2: you go, God, you know what, on a random Wednesday

1674
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:19,639
Speaker 2: night in November, they stub their toe against Eastern Michigan.

1675
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:22,800
Speaker 2: They lost. It happens, But you know what, that's not

1676
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 2: who this program is because of all the success that

1677
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 2: preceded it. You can't say that. You can't say that.

1678
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 2: And then you add to it just the way they've played,

1679
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 2: even in games they have won, including last night, you know,

1680
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 2: it makes you feel like the program to a large

1681
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 2: degree is sort of just a drift, just out there

1682
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 2: floating aimlessly. And that's not where this program is supposed

1683
01:26:43,960 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 2: to be at this point.

1684
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:49,559
Speaker 13: Yeah, I agree, And it was reflected last night. Maybe

1685
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 13: it's just because of the weather or the holiday hangover.

1686
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 13: They didn't really have a lot of people wanted to

1687
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:54,679
Speaker 13: come watch them last night.

1688
01:26:55,600 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 2: The program needs buzz, and you know, we talked about

1689
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:03,639
Speaker 2: that leading into the Louisville game. Louisville's really good. Louisville

1690
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 2: maybe in a Final four this year. I don't know,

1691
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 2: Louive's really good. But like they they haven't had this

1692
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 2: sort of victory. You know, Wescott won his first year

1693
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 2: against Illinois as five years ago. They haven't had this

1694
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 2: sort of victory that just injects buzz and excitement into

1695
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 2: the fan base. And frankly, I don't think they're gonna

1696
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 2: get one on Friday. If they beat Xavier, it's gonna

1697
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:29,680
Speaker 2: be okay. They finally won there, but they're supposed to

1698
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:33,719
Speaker 2: beat Xavier. It' the Xavier team is not very good

1699
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:36,479
Speaker 2: now again, man, they have improved, and I think they

1700
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 2: certainly do play hard and they run some good stuff

1701
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 2: on offense. I don't think a victory like that is

1702
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:44,639
Speaker 2: within Wes's grasp until we get to Big twelve play.

1703
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 2: And how could you have watched this team play its

1704
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 2: first eight games and feel like they're equipped to get

1705
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 2: wins like that in Big twelve play?

1706
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:56,440
Speaker 13: I agree, it just feels to go back to Kentucky.

1707
01:27:56,479 --> 01:28:00,240
Speaker 13: It feels almost like the inverse of Kentucky football. They

1708
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:05,920
Speaker 13: said this stinks, and now I'm jumping the gun here

1709
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 13: because we're fans. We always want to talk about who's

1710
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 13: gonna get fired for something, and that's our that's our

1711
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 13: our role in the world.

1712
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 2: I guess, but it.

1713
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 13: If this doesn't get better, I don't.

1714
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 8: I just don't know. I don't.

1715
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:27,960
Speaker 13: Again, I'm going to quote your videos to you know,

1716
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 13: but Kelvin Samson said, we want to play our worst

1717
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 13: basketball in November. This has to be the worst basketball

1718
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:35,639
Speaker 13: they play all season, or West isn't.

1719
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 8: This thing is in trouble.

1720
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 2: If it doesn't get better, they're gonna have not just

1721
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 2: be on the outside looking into the NCAA Tournament. The

1722
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 2: losses are dramatically going to outweigh the wins. And as

1723
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 2: much as I personally really do like Wes, I think

1724
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 2: he's going to be an impossible sell at that point

1725
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 2: that Cincinnati basketball. I mean, you're not supposed to miss

1726
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 2: the NCAA Tournament five years in a row. And I

1727
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 2: think the other thing is I think folks look at

1728
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 2: last year's roster and this year's roster and see talent,

1729
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:10,280
Speaker 2: Like look at where some of those dudes from last

1730
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 2: year's team went. You know, Tyler Betsy went to Syracuse

1731
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 2: and has had an up and down experience Stillan Mitchell's

1732
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 2: playing for Rick Patino. You know, Josh Reid plays for

1733
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 2: a Big ten school. Dan Skillings is in the Big twelve.

1734
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 2: It's not like those players laughed and then was like,

1735
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 2: oh man, they've got to go down a level. There's talent.

1736
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:29,560
Speaker 2: I think there's talent on this year's team, and it

1737
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:31,680
Speaker 2: just last year it didn't feel like the piece is fit,

1738
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:34,160
Speaker 2: didn't feel like it came together. And it's only been

1739
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:37,600
Speaker 2: a month. College basketball teams do get better. March is

1740
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 2: three months away, but right now it looks like it doesn't.

1741
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:46,559
Speaker 2: The performance on the court doesn't feel reflective of the

1742
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 2: talent they have. I've loved the UC talk Sam call again.

1743
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 11: Okay, absolutely, Timo, there you go.

1744
01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:58,479
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Speaker 5: fifteen thirty to the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals, twenty.

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Speaker 2: Five after five. We are a few minutes late for

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01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:08,160
Speaker 2: our guys, Sean Saya Stats scheme newsletter supersports dot com.

1762
01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:12,439
Speaker 2: And Sean has pretty much allowed me to lay on

1763
01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:16,479
Speaker 2: his therapist couch all year long because with the Bengals

1764
01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:19,520
Speaker 2: lost eight out of nine. But now they're good, they're resurgent.

1765
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:23,120
Speaker 2: The door is opened, and so Shawn's with us to

1766
01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:27,120
Speaker 2: hear my optimistic vibes. And it's good to have you. Sean.

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01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 2: How are you?

1768
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:30,760
Speaker 7: No, I'm doing great. Look, no one's doing better than me.

1769
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:33,360
Speaker 4: I'm already thinking of all right, how many wins does

1770
01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:35,240
Speaker 4: it take to get to the playoffs. How many losses

1771
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:37,479
Speaker 4: from the Ravens are the Steelers does it take for

1772
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:39,720
Speaker 4: you to steal the division? I was so juiced on

1773
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:42,439
Speaker 4: Thanksgiving night. It was really really fun. You know, my

1774
01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:44,640
Speaker 4: family knows you're going to talk about the Bengals. You

1775
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:45,559
Speaker 4: gotta watch the game.

1776
01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:48,400
Speaker 7: I was optimistic going into that game.

1777
01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:49,600
Speaker 4: But to come out with that result, I think it

1778
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 4: is a really awesome, awesome place to be right now

1779
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:52,480
Speaker 4: for the Bengals.

1780
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:57,519
Speaker 2: Was Thursday night From a Bengals defensive perspective, Was it

1781
01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:01,040
Speaker 2: Bengals defense really good? Or did Baltimore just make too

1782
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:01,719
Speaker 2: many mistakes?

1783
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:02,960
Speaker 11: So?

1784
01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:06,000
Speaker 4: I mean, anytime you get that many turnovers, it's going

1785
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 4: to be a little bit wonky. Where how pretty stive

1786
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:10,280
Speaker 4: is that on a week two week basis, I would.

1787
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:12,320
Speaker 7: Say, you know, I'm not going to be expecting them

1788
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:12,759
Speaker 7: to get.

1789
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:15,680
Speaker 4: Five turnovers again. But the Bengals, Eina did do some

1790
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:17,680
Speaker 4: good things where they're going to try and heat up

1791
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:19,519
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson a bunch. You're going to sign a bunch

1792
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:21,680
Speaker 4: of blitzers. Where we have talked earlier this year like

1793
01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:24,320
Speaker 4: what the heck can Al Golden actually do? And one

1794
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 4: thing is increase variants. Through a bunch of blitzers, you're

1795
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:29,600
Speaker 4: able to get a bunch of positive plays against the

1796
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:32,080
Speaker 4: ravend Boffins, who has been struggling.

1797
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:33,360
Speaker 7: A little bit so far this season.

1798
01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:35,320
Speaker 4: I think when they blitz through Lamar Jackson was three

1799
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:37,639
Speaker 4: or four eleven for only sixty nine yards, an interception,

1800
01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 4: and a sack, his second worst performance against the blitz

1801
01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:43,280
Speaker 4: in his entire career. So I would hope that the

1802
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:45,800
Speaker 4: Bengals continue to do that. And you're gonna get burned

1803
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:48,559
Speaker 4: right sometimes, But when you have been clicking on offense,

1804
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 4: let's go un roll the dice and see what happens.

1805
01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 2: This might be kind of a stupid question. They're playing

1806
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:57,000
Speaker 2: linebackers who call it what it is, they're not great

1807
01:32:57,000 --> 01:33:00,720
Speaker 2: in coverage, Carter and Demetrius Knight. This is maybe a

1808
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 2: really dumb question. But if you have linebackers on the

1809
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:06,519
Speaker 2: field who are not good in coverage, why don't you

1810
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:08,200
Speaker 2: send them toward the quarterback every play?

1811
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 4: I don't think it's a stupid question at all, though

1812
01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:13,080
Speaker 4: that mak it makes sense to think.

1813
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:13,680
Speaker 7: About it like that.

1814
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 4: And you know when the Bengals were in zone coverage,

1815
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:18,639
Speaker 4: so you have everyone kind of spaced out and you're

1816
01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 4: able to maybe attack just a little bit. Lamar Jackson

1817
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:23,400
Speaker 4: was able to cause a bunch of problems against the

1818
01:33:23,439 --> 01:33:26,519
Speaker 4: Bengals defense even without them scoring points. So you do

1819
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:29,679
Speaker 4: increase your risk a lot because you're now asking a

1820
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:32,880
Speaker 4: lot of your safeties in coverage, of your quarterbacks in coverage,

1821
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:34,880
Speaker 4: and those are spots that I think the Bengals maybe

1822
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:37,639
Speaker 4: they'll love every single piece that they have on the defense.

1823
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:41,200
Speaker 4: So you're introducing have a big variability where maybe you're

1824
01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:43,720
Speaker 4: gonna let up this big play, so you can I

1825
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:45,760
Speaker 4: think at this point where you have a defense that

1826
01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:47,640
Speaker 4: you know, people keep telling me, man, you have to

1827
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 4: watch this historically bad defense. It's the worst defense since

1828
01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 4: X year or a Y year. So you're gonna say, hey,

1829
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:56,280
Speaker 4: am I going to increase variants with blitz is with

1830
01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 4: a ton of pressure, let me try and get one.

1831
01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:00,320
Speaker 4: They've bangled did a nice job where you're make it

1832
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:02,160
Speaker 4: look like you're bissing, but I'm actually gonna drop out

1833
01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:04,040
Speaker 4: of it. I'm gonna try and get the quarterback in

1834
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:05,720
Speaker 4: the wrong place a little bit. You're able to get

1835
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 4: a deflection, you're able to get an interception. So there's

1836
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:11,040
Speaker 4: that approach, or you can say, well, I'm just gonna

1837
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:13,960
Speaker 4: drop out. All these guys make you kind of chip away,

1838
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:16,880
Speaker 4: throw the ball five yards at a time down the field.

1839
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:17,800
Speaker 7: And I don't know.

1840
01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:20,000
Speaker 4: I guess I'm a little bit aggressive by nature in

1841
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 4: the football world. So I like the idea of let's

1842
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:24,320
Speaker 4: go let's go ahead and attack a little bit there

1843
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:26,639
Speaker 4: and now, like you were talking about the Ravens, all

1844
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 4: mant of the Ravens.

1845
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:29,559
Speaker 7: Like going to be able to figure out their issues.

1846
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:33,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, And I think that's that's kind of why.

1847
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 2: You know, Look, it's obvious, right they're four and eight.

1848
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 2: The only way you're still in it if you're four

1849
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:39,240
Speaker 2: and eight is if the teams in front of you

1850
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:42,280
Speaker 2: are you know, five hundred clubs, and Baltimore's got issues,

1851
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:45,439
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh's got issues. Stay with the Bengals defense with me though,

1852
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:48,160
Speaker 2: really quick when you watch everybody else and then you

1853
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:50,920
Speaker 2: watch DJ Turner like we see him here and go, okay,

1854
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:53,160
Speaker 2: you know that's that's the guy you can move forward with.

1855
01:34:53,240 --> 01:34:54,880
Speaker 2: That's a guy who's maybe playing at a Pro Bowl

1856
01:34:54,960 --> 01:35:00,680
Speaker 2: caliber level. Ton of passes. Defense is that you know,

1857
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 2: us looking at this through orange and black colored glasses,

1858
01:35:03,479 --> 01:35:05,519
Speaker 2: and when you compare him to other guys at the

1859
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:08,240
Speaker 2: same position, is he really playing at a high level

1860
01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:10,120
Speaker 2: that we kind of assume year he is.

1861
01:35:11,200 --> 01:35:13,000
Speaker 4: I do think he is playing at a high level

1862
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:15,040
Speaker 4: where you know they see a first team All Pro.

1863
01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:17,080
Speaker 4: Maybe not, but I do think he's a player that

1864
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:20,639
Speaker 4: should absolutely be a strong part of this defense going forward.

1865
01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:23,120
Speaker 4: And he consistently ranked high in our grades. He is

1866
01:35:23,160 --> 01:35:25,720
Speaker 4: constantly showing that piece, constantly showing up on screen. You

1867
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:27,200
Speaker 4: see it with your eyes. You don't even have to

1868
01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:29,200
Speaker 4: trust the numbers. Where I do think he can make

1869
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:31,120
Speaker 4: plays on the ball. I do think he can help

1870
01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:33,320
Speaker 4: out the secondary and then you can load more onto

1871
01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:35,800
Speaker 4: just like his plate in terms of how much space

1872
01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:37,720
Speaker 4: in the field he has to cover. And now you're

1873
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:39,720
Speaker 4: able to ask other guys a little bit less, So,

1874
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:41,640
Speaker 4: you know, do I consider him the same? Like this

1875
01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:43,599
Speaker 4: is a Durelle reebis, like we're going to lock down

1876
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:45,679
Speaker 4: an entire side of the field for the entire season.

1877
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:47,439
Speaker 4: Maybe not, but you don't have to be that. In

1878
01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:50,719
Speaker 4: the modern NFL. You can have a really real positive

1879
01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:53,400
Speaker 4: piece there where now when the coverage aspect of everything

1880
01:35:53,479 --> 01:35:55,200
Speaker 4: is a little bit better, Now you're able to see

1881
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:56,960
Speaker 4: some of those pass rushers k off a little bit.

1882
01:35:56,960 --> 01:35:58,920
Speaker 4: So I really enjoyed Dj Turner. I feel like we

1883
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:01,439
Speaker 4: last year it was Chase Brown for me just watching

1884
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:03,599
Speaker 4: him be like, oh, I think I really like this player.

1885
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:05,280
Speaker 7: It's the same for DJ Turner this year.

1886
01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:09,920
Speaker 2: Uh A says the performance of the Bengals offensive line

1887
01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:11,599
Speaker 2: for me, are they actually like good?

1888
01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:13,400
Speaker 11: Yes?

1889
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:16,080
Speaker 4: Well, if you're able to keep Joe Burrow clean, like,

1890
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:17,080
Speaker 4: that's where all that matters.

1891
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:18,760
Speaker 7: I do think Burrow helped out a little bit in

1892
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:19,679
Speaker 7: terms of.

1893
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:21,639
Speaker 4: How he can move in the pocket, like thanks, thankfully

1894
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:24,040
Speaker 4: he still has that ability. I'm sure he's not one

1895
01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:26,080
Speaker 4: hundred percent and he's got to wear something weird in

1896
01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:28,320
Speaker 4: issue and I'm sure it's probably hurting a little bit

1897
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:31,000
Speaker 4: the morning after the game. But no, Indeed, I could

1898
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:34,000
Speaker 4: say all the Ravens defensive line is actually is underachieving too.

1899
01:36:34,040 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 7: But I'm comfortable where if you.

1900
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:39,120
Speaker 4: Start to string together positive performances where you're able to

1901
01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:42,000
Speaker 4: have Burrow really avoid some of those hyper negative plays,

1902
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:45,479
Speaker 4: you're like what you're asked to do in past production.

1903
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:48,120
Speaker 7: I really think it's harder sometimes for Joe Burrow, right,

1904
01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:50,559
Speaker 7: because you need to protect a little bit longer. He's

1905
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:51,799
Speaker 7: going to move around in the pocket.

1906
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:53,760
Speaker 4: So maybe a guy runs away from me and you

1907
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:55,680
Speaker 4: grab Jersey and now you get a holding where Joe

1908
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:57,160
Speaker 4: Placco he's gonna stand there.

1909
01:36:57,320 --> 01:36:59,080
Speaker 7: That ball is out in two point two five seconds.

1910
01:36:59,160 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 8: We're moving on.

1911
01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:01,960
Speaker 7: It is a little bit of a tougher job, but

1912
01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:03,240
Speaker 7: I think you should be happy with.

1913
01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:05,920
Speaker 4: Okay, like we're moving in the right direction here.

1914
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:08,120
Speaker 7: After that performance on Thanksgiving.

1915
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:11,240
Speaker 2: So they go to Buffalo this week they played the Bills,

1916
01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:16,280
Speaker 2: and the last three games they've played, we've had three

1917
01:37:16,360 --> 01:37:21,120
Speaker 2: like different offensive performances. They Josh Allen was unstoppable against

1918
01:37:21,160 --> 01:37:25,639
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay and then that Houston defense against the Bills

1919
01:37:25,640 --> 01:37:28,080
Speaker 2: on that Thursday night I think was very eye opening

1920
01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:30,760
Speaker 2: for a lot of people. I thought against Pittsburgh they

1921
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:34,439
Speaker 2: were mostly pedestrian. What can the Bengals borrow from a

1922
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:37,000
Speaker 2: defense like the Houston Texans that they could apply to

1923
01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:38,880
Speaker 2: a Sunday and trying to pull off the upset.

1924
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:42,200
Speaker 4: I mean, if they can borrow Will Anderson at defensive end,

1925
01:37:42,200 --> 01:37:42,800
Speaker 4: that'd be lovely.

1926
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:45,559
Speaker 7: That'd be a nice little a nice little move for them.

1927
01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:48,320
Speaker 4: I think that. I mean, Houston is a special, special defense.

1928
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:50,759
Speaker 4: So it's so hard to say, hey, what can.

1929
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Speaker 7: We kind of borrow? I will say though, I think

1930
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Speaker 7: that the Bills.

1931
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Speaker 11: I think the.

1932
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:54,920
Speaker 7: Bills know this.

1933
01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:58,240
Speaker 4: Dare receivers are not particularly threatening at this time, Like

1934
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:01,360
Speaker 4: they just are not. And the Bills were against the Steelers,

1935
01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:02,759
Speaker 4: they were just able to spam.

1936
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:03,880
Speaker 7: Hey, We're gonna run it.

1937
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:07,280
Speaker 4: Straight at you as often as we can until you break.

1938
01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:10,240
Speaker 7: So it probably is a game where you load the

1939
01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:12,360
Speaker 7: box up where you're attacking downhill.

1940
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Speaker 4: And I do think the Bills, but once when you

1941
01:38:15,000 --> 01:38:16,920
Speaker 4: have a quarterback that can run right once they break

1942
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:19,679
Speaker 4: that glass in case of emergency and say we're gonna

1943
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:22,479
Speaker 4: like have our quarterback carry the ball five six times,

1944
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:25,200
Speaker 4: that to me shows like, okay, the offense is saying, hey,

1945
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:27,160
Speaker 4: like we are we really need to press, we really

1946
01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:27,759
Speaker 4: need to press.

1947
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Speaker 7: And I think the Bills are kind of reaching that point.

1948
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Speaker 4: So I feel like, hey, you can feel confident what

1949
01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:34,479
Speaker 4: turn around the outside?

1950
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:36,439
Speaker 7: I don't think they're gonna be able to just.

1951
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Speaker 4: Like totally shred you and out these famous last words here,

1952
01:38:39,400 --> 01:38:41,759
Speaker 4: Like I still think that, you know, the Bills receiver

1953
01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:44,360
Speaker 4: shouldn't be able to totally.

1954
01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:46,639
Speaker 7: Dominate on the outside. Now, what can you get over

1955
01:38:46,680 --> 01:38:47,800
Speaker 7: the middle, that would be a question.

1956
01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:50,479
Speaker 4: So I'm curious because I think something about Josh Allen

1957
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:52,600
Speaker 4: that's been a little bit different this year is his

1958
01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:55,439
Speaker 4: play under pressure has just dropped back just a little bit.

1959
01:38:55,479 --> 01:38:58,160
Speaker 4: Now you're taking a bunch of sacks in situations where

1960
01:38:58,240 --> 01:38:59,440
Speaker 4: during those Superman.

1961
01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:00,880
Speaker 7: Seasons just unsackable.

1962
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:03,080
Speaker 4: So if you're able to kind of generate that, you're

1963
01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:05,080
Speaker 4: able to kind of continue that approach from how you

1964
01:39:05,120 --> 01:39:08,360
Speaker 4: took it against Lamar, you know I'm gonna do left

1965
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:10,000
Speaker 4: that game with great interests, is what I'll say.

1966
01:39:10,600 --> 01:39:13,519
Speaker 2: All Right, there you go, Sean sayaed Sumer Sports. By

1967
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:15,719
Speaker 2: the way, could you go to Sumer Brain and ask

1968
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:18,599
Speaker 2: why the Ravens only gave the ball to Derrick Henry

1969
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:19,120
Speaker 2: ten times?

1970
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:22,360
Speaker 4: Bro I was looking at it and like all their

1971
01:39:22,479 --> 01:39:25,960
Speaker 4: rushing numbers were like bright green, like fantastic performance.

1972
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:28,200
Speaker 7: And then I'm like, oh, well, what happened here? It's

1973
01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:29,360
Speaker 7: like an eleven carry found.

1974
01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:29,559
Speaker 2: Man.

1975
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:32,240
Speaker 4: It's it's tough, you know, It's it's about that.

1976
01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:34,320
Speaker 7: But hey, I'm not complaining. I'm so happy that we

1977
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:36,000
Speaker 7: can talk about a Bengals win again.

1978
01:39:36,400 --> 01:39:39,479
Speaker 2: You and me, both the stats and scheme newsletter. If

1979
01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:41,840
Speaker 2: folks haven't subscribed yet. Why should they.

1980
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:46,519
Speaker 4: You're gonna get information for every single game all season long.

1981
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:48,840
Speaker 4: But it's just the siving information that I would hand

1982
01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:51,080
Speaker 4: to a head coach if he asked me, Hey, what

1983
01:39:51,160 --> 01:39:53,080
Speaker 4: do I need to try and win the game on

1984
01:39:53,200 --> 01:39:55,160
Speaker 4: this given day. So you get all the information in

1985
01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:56,840
Speaker 4: terms of how it is an offense or on how

1986
01:39:56,840 --> 01:39:58,200
Speaker 4: it is a defense run, and you get all these

1987
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:01,080
Speaker 4: specific notes about the matchup. Looking back at our Thanksgiving

1988
01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:02,479
Speaker 4: news I thought we did a pretty good job of

1989
01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:04,680
Speaker 4: pointing these are the exact kind of pressure points in

1990
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:05,920
Speaker 4: a lot of these games.

1991
01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:10,160
Speaker 2: You get it twice a week the Statson Scheme Newsletter

1992
01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:12,760
Speaker 2: at sumer sports dot com, and you should check out

1993
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:15,519
Speaker 2: sumer Brain while you're at at s U. M er

1994
01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:18,080
Speaker 2: is how you spell Sumer. Sean, you're the best man.

1995
01:40:18,120 --> 01:40:20,240
Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Thanks a much, roll.

1996
01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:21,439
Speaker 7: Looking forward to talking next week.

1997
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:24,519
Speaker 2: I can't wait. That's our guy, Sean sayed. Get his

1998
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:27,479
Speaker 2: newsletter now, the Statson Scheme Newsletter. I get it every

1999
01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:31,000
Speaker 2: Monday and Thursday, and I'm smarter for it. It is

2000
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Speaker 2: twenty five away from five o'clock. We are at Oakley

2001
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2002
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2003
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2004
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2005
01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:51,960
Speaker 2: go to the bar and just say one Mary Special,

2006
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Speaker 2: one can of domestic beer. Ideally because it's the bud

2007
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Speaker 2: Light five o'clock happy hour in nice cold bud Light

2008
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2009
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2010
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2011
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2012
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2013
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2014
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Speaker 2: like the UC basketball call. I enjoyed that. I wish

2015
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Speaker 2: the team is playing better. We're at Oakley Greens here

2016
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2017
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2019
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2036
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2037
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Speaker 2: waiting to find out what that player's name is. They

2038
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:46,360
Speaker 2: have signed a player named Jalen Kimber to the practice

2039
01:42:46,360 --> 01:42:49,080
Speaker 2: squad rookie from Penn State. He's a corner college free

2040
01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:52,880
Speaker 2: agent of Tennessee, a signee of Tennessee back in May.

2041
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:54,639
Speaker 2: Then he was cut. Then he went to the Bills

2042
01:42:54,840 --> 01:42:57,240
Speaker 2: four games on their practice squad. He was cutting eyes

2043
01:42:57,280 --> 01:43:00,280
Speaker 2: with the Bengals, and I would go ahead and the

2044
01:43:00,360 --> 01:43:02,400
Speaker 2: Lamar Hunt Trophy now that he is here, Bengals and

2045
01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:05,599
Speaker 2: Bill Sunday at one game is on ESPN fifteen thirty.

2046
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:08,920
Speaker 2: Pre game coverage starts at nine o'clock. A good one

2047
01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:12,000
Speaker 2: tonight on ESPN fifteen thirty. It's Kentucky and Carolin. I'm

2048
01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:14,519
Speaker 2: talking about men's college basketball right now. If you're wondering

2049
01:43:14,600 --> 01:43:18,800
Speaker 2: nine thirty tip off pregame at eight on ESPN fifteen thirty. Also,

2050
01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:22,720
Speaker 2: this evening, Miami takes on Indiana University East, which I

2051
01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:26,800
Speaker 2: just found out today exists. Dayton battles East Tennessee State,

2052
01:43:27,640 --> 01:43:31,519
Speaker 2: and The Richard Patino Show, produced by Tarren Bland, will

2053
01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:35,120
Speaker 2: be tonight at seven o'clock on fifty five KRC. If

2054
01:43:35,160 --> 01:43:38,519
Speaker 2: you call The Richard Patino Show, Tarren will take your

2055
01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:44,799
Speaker 2: call and get you on immediately. Let's see here. Do

2056
01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:47,519
Speaker 2: I offer up a few more sports opinions or take

2057
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:50,599
Speaker 2: a phone call. Hell, let's talk to Mike. Mike, you're

2058
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:52,880
Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty. Mike, go ahead, what's up?

2059
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Speaker 11: Thank you, mod Did you have a wonderful Thanksgiving with

2060
01:43:56,760 --> 01:43:58,679
Speaker 11: Crosley and your beautiful boy?

2061
01:43:59,200 --> 01:44:02,400
Speaker 2: I had a great eight Thanksgiving. Crosley had a blast,

2062
01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:05,720
Speaker 2: my wife had a blast. My in laws made a

2063
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:09,280
Speaker 2: wonderful meal. I played Left right Center with my daughter

2064
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:12,400
Speaker 2: and nieces and nephews, and I won eighteen dollars. Taught

2065
01:44:12,439 --> 01:44:14,800
Speaker 2: him a little bit about gambling. It was a really

2066
01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:17,400
Speaker 2: good Thanksgiving. Thank you for asking. Everything good with you?

2067
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Speaker 11: Eighteen bucks? Come on, man, don't you don't play with

2068
01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:22,720
Speaker 11: eighteen bucks?

2069
01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:24,240
Speaker 8: But you know what the kids for?

2070
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:26,840
Speaker 2: The little kids? I was supposed to get up to

2071
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:28,120
Speaker 2: play a little kids.

2072
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Speaker 11: Sorry, I'm miss under I misunderstood you. So you took

2073
01:44:31,080 --> 01:44:32,639
Speaker 11: the kids for eighteen bucks?

2074
01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:35,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, took him for eighteen bucks. We played left right center.

2075
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Speaker 2: Each person has three bucks. There were six kids and.

2076
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Speaker 11: Me me, I god, you hate them much?

2077
01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:43,120
Speaker 7: Just too.

2078
01:44:43,439 --> 01:44:44,839
Speaker 2: It's a lesson about gambling.

2079
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Speaker 11: Who's worse you are, Steven Ah Smith? I'm trying to

2080
01:44:49,479 --> 01:44:53,880
Speaker 11: decide right now. But anyway, I don't even believe you

2081
01:44:53,960 --> 01:44:54,360
Speaker 11: told me that.

2082
01:44:54,520 --> 01:44:58,439
Speaker 2: But we're playing. We're playing the game. We're playing the

2083
01:44:58,479 --> 01:45:02,320
Speaker 2: game for money? Right? Was he playing? I won the game?

2084
01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:03,519
Speaker 2: I took the money.

2085
01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:07,000
Speaker 11: Did you then distributed to the children?

2086
01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:10,799
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I provided the twenty one dollars

2087
01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:14,559
Speaker 2: for the game, so I want my own money back.

2088
01:45:14,720 --> 01:45:17,960
Speaker 2: And then yes, because I'm not a heartless jerk, I

2089
01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:20,200
Speaker 2: each gave them their three dollars.

2090
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Speaker 11: See, this is my endeavorate investigative reporting. But obviously I

2091
01:45:24,400 --> 01:45:26,640
Speaker 11: have a long way to go, so you have to

2092
01:45:26,720 --> 01:45:27,800
Speaker 11: let this straighten me out.

2093
01:45:27,880 --> 01:45:29,720
Speaker 2: This is, you know what on I haven't done a

2094
01:45:29,720 --> 01:45:31,719
Speaker 2: poll question and this is gonna be my pole question

2095
01:45:31,800 --> 01:45:34,519
Speaker 2: on Twitter. Is it okay to take money from children

2096
01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:40,000
Speaker 2: if you're playing left right center with them?

2097
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Speaker 11: Did you have a couple of sensational catches and you know,

2098
01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:49,080
Speaker 11: like relays and stuff? Uh? No, Okay, okay, that's right again,

2099
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Speaker 11: you're honest. Hey, uh a couple of things. I know

2100
01:45:52,640 --> 01:45:56,519
Speaker 11: you only got a second. Do you think Patino is

2101
01:45:56,520 --> 01:45:59,680
Speaker 11: a better coach? I know it's a little early, but

2102
01:45:59,760 --> 01:46:04,240
Speaker 11: do you your impression right now? I feel like Richard

2103
01:46:04,320 --> 01:46:09,439
Speaker 11: Patino Junior is a better coach than Wes mow Well.

2104
01:46:09,680 --> 01:46:12,960
Speaker 2: He's accomplished more than than Wes has at a at

2105
01:46:13,000 --> 01:46:16,439
Speaker 2: a high major level. He's taken teams to the NCAA tournament.

2106
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Speaker 2: I think when I look at the two teams this year,

2107
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:22,280
Speaker 2: I think Wes. I think West's team has more talent.

2108
01:46:22,760 --> 01:46:25,759
Speaker 2: I think Richard's team is getting better now. That certainly

2109
01:46:25,760 --> 01:46:28,360
Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily mean that Richard Patino's team is going to

2110
01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:30,880
Speaker 2: win the game on Friday, but I do think it's

2111
01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:33,720
Speaker 2: interesting from this perspective. When the season first started, and

2112
01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:35,840
Speaker 2: it was just a few weeks ago, I think a

2113
01:46:35,840 --> 01:46:38,439
Speaker 2: lot of folks looked at the Skyline Chili Crosstown shootout

2114
01:46:38,479 --> 01:46:43,280
Speaker 2: as inevitable UC's finally gonna win at this excuse me

2115
01:46:43,320 --> 01:46:47,280
Speaker 2: at the Centa Center, because of how uninspired they played

2116
01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:50,320
Speaker 2: against Lemoyne, because of how they got beaten against Santa Clara,

2117
01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:52,640
Speaker 2: and to a degree, how they played against Iowa. I

2118
01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:56,439
Speaker 2: think since then, I don't I don't believe in the

2119
01:46:56,439 --> 01:46:58,960
Speaker 2: Big East is not very good. Hasn't looked very good

2120
01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:00,920
Speaker 2: so far this year. I don't think Xavier is gonna

2121
01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:03,920
Speaker 2: win more than six or seven games in the Big East.

2122
01:47:04,200 --> 01:47:07,720
Speaker 2: But they are getting better. They are improving. I think

2123
01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:12,120
Speaker 2: on the offensive end, you're seeing guys carve out certain roles.

2124
01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:14,360
Speaker 2: They still miss a lot of shots at the rim.

2125
01:47:14,640 --> 01:47:17,800
Speaker 2: But if you watch that team last night, or if

2126
01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:20,080
Speaker 2: you watch them play in the event they were in

2127
01:47:20,120 --> 01:47:23,000
Speaker 2: with Georgia and West Virginia, and you compare that to

2128
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:26,120
Speaker 2: some of the games they played really early, you see improvement.

2129
01:47:26,680 --> 01:47:28,920
Speaker 2: I don't think you see that with Wes Miller's team

2130
01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:32,519
Speaker 2: this year. Now. I do believe the Bearcats have more

2131
01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 2: talent than Xavier does. They are a different team when

2132
01:47:35,240 --> 01:47:37,519
Speaker 2: Boba Miller's on the floor, even though he wasn't good

2133
01:47:37,600 --> 01:47:41,840
Speaker 2: last night, but the team sort of feels the same

2134
01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:44,559
Speaker 2: as it did back on November third when they played

2135
01:47:44,600 --> 01:47:47,519
Speaker 2: their first game, and Richard's team does feel like it

2136
01:47:47,520 --> 01:47:48,240
Speaker 2: has gotten better.

2137
01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:53,000
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's why I was, well, that was just my perception.

2138
01:47:53,479 --> 01:47:55,200
Speaker 11: I have no idea what that's gonna end up.

2139
01:47:55,439 --> 01:47:58,639
Speaker 2: And look, it doesn't have to be one guy's better

2140
01:47:58,680 --> 01:48:00,920
Speaker 2: than the other. They could both be good. That's the

2141
01:48:00,960 --> 01:48:04,840
Speaker 2: idea here. But there's a natural compare and contrast. Richard

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Speaker 2: Patino is in his first season, Wes Miller is in

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Speaker 2: his fifth. Richard Patino's team has a talent issue. I

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Speaker 2: think even die hard Musketeer fans would admit that, but

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Speaker 2: it looks like they're improving. Wes Miller has a team

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Speaker 2: where I think folks are cool with the talent. It

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Speaker 2: doesn't feel like the team so far has improved that

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Speaker 2: it goes without saying Mike has to change.

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Speaker 11: Let me run this, let me run one football question

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Speaker 11: by and I heard Steve Young be interview this morning.

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Speaker 11: Steve Young is extremely intelligent. He's also a lawyer after

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Speaker 11: he quit football. He might have had his degree before

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Speaker 11: he started playing football. I'm not sure, but Steve Young

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Speaker 11: is really good on an interview in my opinions, and

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Speaker 11: I think in this good very guy that you guys

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Speaker 11: interviewed for the Bengals. You can tell this guy looks

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Speaker 11: at film. He's like the Greg Cosell of the Bengals.

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Speaker 11: You know, the guy is really When Austin talked doing today,

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Speaker 11: I learned a lot and it was it was really

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Speaker 11: a cool experience. This guy is really sharp. I never

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Speaker 11: really paid attention to him, but he is sharp. My

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Speaker 11: overall question is when they asked Steve Young today, uh,

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Speaker 11: what how do you how why is Stafford excluding the

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Speaker 11: last game, how is Stafford doing so well? And he said, here,

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Speaker 11: here's what's going on. Look at the guys that really

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Speaker 11: excelled and that were drop back quarterbacks, Peyton Brady Breeze,

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Speaker 11: for instance, now there's none of those guys left, just

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Speaker 11: straight drop back passers. They're they're they're pretty much gone.

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Speaker 11: And so his opinion was Rogers is the only Rogers

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Speaker 11: and Stafford the only two left. But my point is

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Speaker 11: that the guys that learned in the past are much

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Speaker 11: better at reading everything, and they shred defenses much better

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Speaker 11: than this new breed of quarterback that's coming along.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 11: He didn't mention Joe, and I was hoping he would,

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Speaker 11: and because Joe's probably right in that box, all pretty

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Speaker 11: much right. But I thought it was interesting because he

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Speaker 11: said these guys are had been forced to learn how

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Speaker 11: to read defenses, how to anyway, you know, just idiosyncrasies everything.

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Speaker 11: What do you think as opposed to the current quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not sure I completely understand what the question is, like.

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Speaker 11: Like, well, no, no, the question was that the guys

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Speaker 11: that came up a little earlier and two of them

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Speaker 11: are still around, Stafford and Rogers, Rogers has heard all

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Speaker 11: the time, but that these guys are are better suited

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Speaker 11: for reading defenses, for making changes at the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 11: for doing what they had to do in the pass,

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Speaker 11: which is passed from the pocket or don't pass at all.

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Speaker 2: Basically, Well, I think quarterbacks today, I think quarterbacks today

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Speaker 2: have a lot more to process. I think quarterbacks today

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Speaker 2: have a lot more to process. But you know, I

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Speaker 2: go back. I'm old enough for remember Michael, when quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: like called their own plays. Yeah, legitimately would run a

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Speaker 2: first down play and then decide here's what we're gonna

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Speaker 2: run on second down. There was no helmet in the

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Speaker 2: no radio in the helmet. But I also feel like

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Speaker 2: defenses are so complex. Offenses are so complex. There's so

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Speaker 2: much scouting in prep time by the opposing defense that

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Speaker 2: to ask a quarterback to do that is is a

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Speaker 2: little bit much. I think what has gotten better. I

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Speaker 2: think mobility is almost a prerequisite now to play QB. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's got to be a level of mobile ability that

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Speaker 2: if you had it, it was cool, but you didn't

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Speaker 2: necessarily have to have it back then. I think you

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Speaker 2: have to have it now. I hope that answered your question.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, Ja, if you get a chance, just pick up that.

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Speaker 11: I heard it on the Patrick Show this morning. I

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Speaker 11: didn't I didn't explain it as well as Steve was.

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Speaker 11: It'd probably be five minutes of your time, but it

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Speaker 11: was very enlightening. Thank you, mother, having a great night.

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