1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,119 Speaker 1: Double header for Monday Night football this evening. Looking forward 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: to watching both of these games should be entertaining games. 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: Got the Bills and Falcons first up here at five fifteen, 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: and then a six fifteen we got the Bears and 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: the Commanders. You've got number one versus number two quarterbacks 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: from last year, Caleb Williams Jan Dames. 7 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 2: That'd be a lot of fun. 8 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's not really number one, you know two 9 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 3: Number one is again talking about. 10 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: Not but the same drive what they're not the same 11 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: drivet classes? 12 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 3: Yep, pick one and pick two. But they're not really 13 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 3: playing against one another. Oh come well, their teams are 14 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 3: playing against one another. 15 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 4: And if you had to say, well, who had the. 16 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 3: Better defense all of the Commanders and the Bears, you 17 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 3: would say. 18 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: Who the Commanders. 19 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 4: That's right. 20 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 3: So that's who Caleb Williams is competing against with the 21 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 3: little help from his former offensive coach. 22 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: People can't hear my eye roll, but it's severe. 23 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 4: That's all right. 24 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 3: I got to tell my kids rolling log you want to, 25 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: I don't they They have no impact on me. 26 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna hear from Bo Dix with the Voice of 27 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: the Broncos, Dave Logan coming up here just a little bit. 28 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: But again five six six nine zero. 29 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: If you want to interact with the show, if you 30 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: want to tell us what you thought about the game, 31 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: good or bad, otherwise, want to hear from you. This 32 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: one my moment was in the final drive, a wide 33 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: open Garrett Wilson on an out route, but in classic fashion, 34 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: Justin Field's missing it behind him by a mile. He 35 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: didn't miss it by I mean he needed to put 36 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: it out in front of his hands, and he threw 37 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: it behind him and Garrett almost pirouetted and got to it, 38 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: but then and he was he was pretty banged up. 39 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: I think maybe a healthier Garrett Wilson maybe finds a way, 40 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: But even then, that was a poorly accurate pass. 41 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 4: Well, I would agree. 42 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 3: That in that particular situation you want to put the 43 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 3: ball out in front of the wide receiver so you 44 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: can increase run after catch. But if we're going to 45 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 3: sit here and say, oh, well look at that pass, 46 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 3: that's indicative of who Justin Fields is. I mean we 47 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 3: could do that with with with a lot of quarterbacks. Right, 48 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 3: you want to better throw Obviously you kind of coach 49 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 3: that up. But as far. 50 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 4: As the rest of the game. 51 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: Man. 52 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 4: We I don't know about you. 53 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 3: I have really looked at it in a minute, just 54 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 3: so you know what. They can have helped him out. 55 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 3: No quarterback, regardless of how quarterback driven this league is, 56 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 3: no quarterback ever wins a game by themselves, even though 57 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 3: people like to say, yeah, this quarterback. 58 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 4: Won the game. No he didn't, No he did not. 59 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: No. 60 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 3: Okay, So you want to tell me quarterbacks win games 61 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 3: by themselves? 62 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 4: Want to tell me? Of course they don't. They don't 63 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 4: lose them by themselves either. 64 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 2: But it's also the most important position in all of 65 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: sports for a reason. 66 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 4: That's right. But you don't lose the game by yourself either. 67 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: I mean, if you want to argue technicalities, it's fine. 68 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 4: I want to technicalities. Those are facts. 69 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 3: Joe Montana thrown to the back of the end zone 70 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 3: right against the Dallas Cowboys. 71 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 4: Right. 72 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 5: Yes, it's called the catch, Yes it is. It's not 73 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 5: called the throw, that's right. Why Because it's a team sport, 74 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 5: a team. Someone caught it. 75 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 2: Mariners a rough seven to three over the Blue Jays 76 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: in the sixth inning. 77 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 4: Go Mariners, go Marriger. 78 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, rights, go Mariners, America, but also Seattle, go America. 79 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: Chest yes, yes, that'll leaves the series one nothing. The 80 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: baseball playoffs have been phenomenal so far. 81 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 4: You love October baseball. I do love. 82 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: October baseball, and one day I hope my team's a 83 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: part of it again. 84 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 4: See, you know what, I wasn't going to go there. 85 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: You are going you're thinking no. 86 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 4: No, no, no no no. 87 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 3: Regardless of what I was thinking, you were thinking. I 88 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 3: didn't go there. But it's it's good that you have 89 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 3: openly said it. 90 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: Also, go Brewers beat the Dodgers. Come on, now, we're 91 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: gonna Shelby Harris on tomorrow. I'm looking forward to asking 92 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: about his Brewers who listened to one over the weekend, 93 00:03:53,560 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: advanced to the NLCS. But the Dodgers are are very good. Yeah, 94 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: that is something they got Hope Field. So we'll see that. 95 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: Looks like coffies want to get to here. And again 96 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna hear from Bonix with Voice the Broncos. Dave 97 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: Logan in just a little bit so interesting discussion today 98 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: on Twitter Mike Renter, who I love Mike. I've known 99 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: Mike a long time. Obviously, he worked with PFF, he 100 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: now works with CBS. He says, I know we can't 101 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: judge a draft class after six weeks, but the Broncos 102 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: top three picks all being backups looks especially concerning given 103 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: they were a fifth year cornerback, a sixth year running back, 104 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: and a fourth year wide receiver. Broncos drafted a lot 105 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: of experience, save On Jones is another guy that was 106 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: in the draft class, a lot of experience, with the 107 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: exception of their guys in the seventh round, right, I 108 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: mean talking about a tight end that needs some times 109 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: caleable ownery, you know, didn't have a lot of experience. 110 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 2: But with most with the meat of. 111 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: Your draft, it was guys with experienced captains that you 112 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: were drafting. Now, on it the surface, I see his points, 113 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: and I don't think he's being unfair with wondering because 114 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: most of the time, especially with your first round or 115 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: you want to see them play significantly most of the time. 116 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 2: Also, RJ. 117 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: Harvey was drafted to a team that had some major 118 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: holes at running back. At least we thought. Now you 119 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: brought in JK. Dobbins, He's been a top five running back. Okay, 120 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: so it's not a major hole right now because you 121 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: brought in a guy. But at the time when you 122 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: drafted him there thought, oh gosh, it's a six year 123 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: running back, let's get him on the field. And then 124 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: finally with Pat Bryant, fourth year wide receiver, he has 125 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 1: been on the field and he's getting increasingly more on 126 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: the field. But again you're thinking, like, okay, wide receivers 127 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: also positioned, the Broncos probably could use more talent. 128 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: So I think on a surface his question, he begs this. 129 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: Question, it's a fair one, but I'd say on the 130 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: other side of it, the Broncos returned more players than 131 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: any other team in the NFL from last year to 132 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: crack the starting lineup there in the secondary. 133 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: For Jade Baron is a rookie, it's a task, very 134 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: tall town. 135 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 4: Who was the person who brought this up. 136 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: Mike Rinner with CBS Sports, and he's a good dude. 137 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,239 Speaker 1: I'm not even hammering Mike for this. I'm just saying 138 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: he brought this question up and it's brought a lot 139 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: of conversation on Twitter today from Broncos fans. 140 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 2: I'm saying, yeah, it's a. 141 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:19,799 Speaker 1: Bust of a draft, which is the most asinine, stupid 142 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: thing I've ever heard. 143 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 3: I like the question because it forces people to go 144 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 3: deep in their evaluation and really look at things. 145 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 4: Now. 146 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 3: Usually when you draft a guy in the first round, 147 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 3: the idea is that you anticipate that guy's going to 148 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 3: play right away, especially if that is a quarterback. Everyone 149 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 3: is helping it the big where we're going to get 150 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 3: that guy in, right, we got we got to move 151 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 3: the guy who's currently in that spot out. 152 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 4: But here's what I would. 153 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,239 Speaker 3: Say for anyone who's considering this to even have talking 154 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 3: points and debate. When we look at the situation, it's 155 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 3: a little different from a DP standpoint. Quarterbacks, you want 156 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 3: to hurry up and rust them in, even though I don't. 157 00:06:58,960 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 4: Always agree with that. 158 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 3: But what we're seeing is that the Broncos have done 159 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 3: a great job of not just drafting and signing free agents, 160 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 3: They've done a great job of developing those guys. 161 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 4: Because what they're. 162 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 3: Doing is increasing the competition, because as the phrase goes, 163 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 3: the cream rises to the top. 164 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 4: And right now, some of those. 165 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 3: Guys who were drafted who are not starters, they are 166 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,559 Speaker 3: not cutting the mustard, not because they are not good enough. 167 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 3: It is because the guys who are in front of 168 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 3: them are so much better. And then the question becomes, well, 169 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,679 Speaker 3: this guy was the first rounder. This guy was drafted 170 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,119 Speaker 3: and there was a lot of hoopla behind him. Yeah, 171 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:41,119 Speaker 3: I get it. But you want to take out Riley Moss, 172 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 3: which there has been a lot of, you know, proclamations 173 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 3: for that. Are you going to remove Jakwan McMillan. We 174 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 3: just talked about how great he did helping close out 175 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 3: the game with spectacular tackles. 176 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 4: Yes, right on, Gary Wilson, right now? Who else are 177 00:07:58,680 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 4: you moving out of the way? 178 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 3: Pat Bryant had a great route on the three x 179 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 3: one slant route. 180 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: He got two first downs. 181 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: Yes for you, on a day that the passing Offenses 182 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: office in general struggled, you get twelve total first downs 183 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: and he had two of them on the only two 184 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: catches and two targets he got. 185 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 3: Now, would I like to see him more involved? Absolutely? 186 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 4: Right? 187 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 3: Can we get to that point? I mean, you and 188 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 3: I can tweet about it, but I don't know how 189 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 3: well he is going to do over adub Valley. But 190 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 3: we need to see him more involved, right, And that's 191 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 3: on the play caller to get him more involved. 192 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 4: But that's not an indictment of any. 193 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 3: Of the guys that George Payton drafted this past draft. 194 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 3: Process to say that those guys are busy, they don't. 195 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 4: Have what it takes. 196 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 3: No, the players that are in front of you are right, 197 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,119 Speaker 3: are they're better. 198 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 4: At this particular moment. 199 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 3: Now, could there be some discussions in the building about 200 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 3: giving Pat Bryant more reps over Troy Franklin. 201 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 4: I bet that's a conversation. 202 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: I can see that. 203 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a conversation and say because some would say 204 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 4: that it. 205 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 3: It's meritocracy, that's what because FANSI just once said when 206 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: he was here, that's not true. 207 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 4: It's not true. 208 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 3: I'm a I'm a fan of allowing the person who's 209 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 3: doing the most work. 210 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 4: In practice, they improved. 211 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 3: The most, letting that person play, regardless of whether they 212 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 3: were drafted. 213 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 4: But in this case of what we're talking. 214 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 3: About, No, those veteran guys are holding it down, and 215 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 3: as long as they're holding it down, then they should play. 216 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 4: Now they're left guard. We can talk about that. 217 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: Iout that, but just on this for for a couple 218 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: more moments. 219 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: Okay, so. 220 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right as far as cracking the starting group, 221 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: don't don't don't try to ask Grant to grab that. 222 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 4: Did you get that? Where you got that? 223 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 2: I'm I'm sure Grant got. 224 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: It okay, but but it's it's without context, so you 225 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: can't just use it blanketly. 226 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 4: And as you were saying. 227 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: Anyways, yes, there's something that I hate giving then credit 228 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: for this because he's said, you give him credit for something. 229 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: It's like something bad is about to happen. But I'm 230 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 1: gonna give him credit for something. He says, if you 231 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: draft enough players. He's probably not even the person that 232 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: invented if, but I'll say it anyways, if you draft 233 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: enough good players, you're gonna wake up with a good team. 234 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 2: At some point. Right, you just continue to draft talent. 235 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: And honestly, you look at the Baltimore Ravens, the Pittsburgh Steelers, 236 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: there's a lot of teams that just draft good players. Hey, 237 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: they may have already established edge rushers and defensive line, 238 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: but guess what, we can use another one, and in 239 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: a couple of years, that guy's gonna be a stud 240 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 1: for us. We don't even need him to be a 241 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: stud in year one. It's more of a year three 242 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 1: thing when we've been priced out of some of these 243 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: guys and we need our rookie class from two years 244 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,479 Speaker 1: ago to step up. I'm not saying that that's specifically 245 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: the plan, but I do think and I remember with 246 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: Sean Payton, he said, when they come to putting together 247 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: their draft and what they think about every draft prospect, 248 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: they actually go through the process of mapping out what 249 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: a plan would look like for each guy, what is 250 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: their development plan? How many years will it take them 251 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: to get to where we think they could be as 252 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: a pro They do that for everybody the entire draft board. 253 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: They think about every single player critically like that. So 254 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: when they draft these guys, when they have Jade Baron 255 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: fall in their lap at pick twenty, when they didn't 256 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: think he'd be there at that point or otherwise, they 257 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: have a plan regardless on what they think his development 258 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: looks like. A lot of people are like, why are 259 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: you drafted a cornerback in the first round if you're 260 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: not going to play him? 261 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: Well, he is playing. 262 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: But the development plan for Jade Baron, I have to believe, 263 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: is one that goes beyond the first six games of 264 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: the season. It goes into the back half of this season, 265 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: it goes into year two, in year three, and at 266 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: that point, maybe you are priced out of Riley Moss, 267 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: maybe you are priced out of Jakwan McMillan, Right. I mean, 268 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: so you have to think about this thing three dimensionally. 269 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: I think sometimes there's this like surface level, Well, this 270 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: guy isn't doing what I think he should be doing, 271 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: so I'm really upset about it. But if you have 272 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: to think about it in terms of how a team 273 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: thinks about a guy, then you I think you understand 274 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: a little bit better about the mindset when it comes 275 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: to Jaikwan McMillan, Pat Bryant and RJ. 276 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 2: Harvey and what the development plan. 277 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: For two years from now, which is tough to explain, 278 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: will look like. 279 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 3: Well, I would say that Sean has some experience with 280 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 3: this because when you think about Mickey Lomanz in New 281 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 3: Orleans and how they continue to swipe the credit card 282 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 3: and say we're going to kick the can down the 283 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 3: road and eventually rank him do and they couldn't really 284 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 3: feel quality players because they were strapped from KAZ from 285 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 3: a salary cap standpoint. So I would like to think 286 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 3: that Sean learned from that, and you couple that with 287 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 3: the wisdom of George Peyton say okay, well we're going 288 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 3: to think in futures, do we need an extra dB, right, now, no, 289 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 3: we don't really need it. It's great if we have it. So, 290 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 3: just like you said, a guy starts to play well, 291 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 3: his contract stars expire, you're not going to be able 292 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 3: to retain him because so many people are going to 293 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 3: kind of be after him for his abilities. 294 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 4: You now have a guy in waiting. You have to now. 295 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 3: Think in futures. And this is where some franchises, like 296 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 3: the Bengals, the Cleveland Browns, they keep doing the same 297 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 3: thing over and over, the Tennessee Titans, thinking that somehow 298 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 3: they have now changed the way football is. Just like 299 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 3: you take Mike Rabel from the Titans and you're sticking 300 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 3: with the Patriots, and then all of a sudden, the 301 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 3: idea is that Drake May is Tom Brady reincarnated. Why 302 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 3: because they're thinking in futures. So you have to do 303 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 3: just that. And the Broncos is set up because they've 304 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 3: not only drafted well under George Payton, they've developed well 305 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 3: under George Payton as well. 306 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 4: And then you don't have to worry about. 307 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 3: Certain aspects of your roster from a financial standpoint because. 308 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 4: Your a quarterback. Guess what, he is still on a 309 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 4: rookie deal. 310 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 3: So now you can go mad scientists and spear him 311 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 3: in all these different ways because you got a quarterback 312 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 3: on a rookie deal. 313 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 2: You're absolutely right. 314 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 4: Appreciate that. 315 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 2: Right, I didn't say it the second you're absolutely right. 316 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 3: That's not AI, that's actually your voice. You're absolutely right, yes, 317 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 3: and that's you saying I was right about something. 318 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 2: So it's okay at two grant No, you're absolutely right. 319 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 4: Yes. 320 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: A couple of texts here on the ka Commas Spirit 321 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: Health text line, speaking of wide receivers, the Broncos are 322 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: bringing in Traylon Burks and for a visit, what do 323 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: you guys think? I mean, I like the recommenction projects 324 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: for a first round pick. I liked him coming out 325 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: of college. Injuries have plagued his career early on. Plus 326 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: he played for the Titans. 327 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 4: I mean that says it all right. 328 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: You almost feel a bit for a guy like Traylon 329 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: Burks for a moment because he was part of the 330 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: A J. 331 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 2: Brown swap. Yes, right, and A J. Brown has gone 332 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 2: on to be very successful. He was very good Tennessee. 333 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: You want a super Bowl, he's been He's been good. 334 00:14:56,040 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: Now he's pouting, but trailer on Burks is gonna be 335 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: remembered for that, and he obviously never came close to 336 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: realizing the value of what the AJ. 337 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: Brown trade was. 338 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: When they made that deal, they were thinking, Hey, we're 339 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: gonna go cost control to wide receiver here and we'll 340 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: move off AJ Brown, who's he's a good player, but 341 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: we think trail On Burgs can be a J Brown 342 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: now didn't work out, so unfortunately for him as a 343 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: reclamation project. That's what everybody thinks about you now. I 344 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: think for the Broncos, it's an opportunity to bring a 345 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: guy in and you know, bolster position because they don't. 346 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: I don't think did they have any wide receivers on? 347 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I know they got one. 348 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 2: Who is that guy? 349 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 6: Yeah? 350 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: They the guy that's like former Saints. I'll look it 351 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: up here a second, But but they have like one 352 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: wide receiver maybe two man. Michael Bandy's probably still in 353 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: the practice one. Like it's like the Michael Bandy practice squad. 354 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 2: Spot. 355 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: No, no, I take that back. I think Michael Bandy left. 356 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: I think he said he'd had enough. Hold on I'm 357 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: gonna tell you tell you what. Uh yeah, oh no, 358 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: never mind, he is here, But it was I'm all 359 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: for it. But I don't think he's supplanting. Like we 360 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: just talked about Pat Bryan. I want to see more 361 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: from Pat Bryant than I would. Hey, let's bring in 362 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: Traylon Burks and then kick Pat Bryan to the curb. 363 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, it's not. 364 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 3: The idea of kicking Pat Bryan to the curve. Because 365 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 3: Pat Bryan has suited up, he's been active. You're looking 366 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 3: at ways to enhance your practice squad, right, and then 367 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 3: where Traylon Burks you give up nothing for him, right, 368 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 3: he's just out there on the street and he's a 369 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 3: former first rounder, and so we've discussed before, former first 370 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 3: rounders get more opportunities than undrafted players. And you kick 371 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 3: the tires on it. 372 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 4: You bring him in. 373 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 3: You see where he is from a health standpoint, how 374 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 3: he is from running standpoint as well. And if there's 375 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 3: something that you like, you take a guy off the 376 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 3: practice squad, you add him for a couple of weeks, 377 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 3: You put him around the fellas, see how he's yelling. 378 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 4: And who knows. 379 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 3: I mean, it could be a recommention project, like you said, 380 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 3: and a change of scenery always does an individual well. 381 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 3: And who's to say that he can't be elevated and 382 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 3: uplifted because he's coming from a Titans organization where he 383 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 3: was drafted in the. 384 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: First round at Perry's who was thinking of They also 385 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,479 Speaker 1: signed some oratory so they actually do have a few 386 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: wide receivers now they didn't coming out of a camp. 387 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 3: But yeah, with this idea, when you're on a practice squad, yeah, 388 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 3: every Tuesday, you want to make sure that you come 389 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 3: to workouts. 390 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 4: It's your early workout. 391 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 3: You know why, you're trying to see what guys that 392 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 3: they're bringing in working out at your position. 393 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 4: And also, even if they don't sign trail. 394 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 3: On Burds, I'm sure it's going to inspire every single 395 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 3: guy who's playing a wide receiver position on practice squad. 396 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 4: To be better that week. 397 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: This one, this draft class may click in two years. 398 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: Right now not really good when compared to previous years. 399 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: In early impact, they will. 400 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 4: Say, how are you measuring that? They're not really good? 401 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 3: How could someone say they're not really good because they're 402 00:17:58,320 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 3: not playing right now? 403 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. What are we measuring that against? I 404 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,479 Speaker 1: guess maybe other draft classes around the league or what 405 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: maybe you expectations? I mean, when when the Broncos got 406 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: John A. Barn There is this like, oh my gosh, 407 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: this guy shouldn't have been there. 408 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: What is Vance Joseph going to be able to do 409 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 2: with him almost right away? 410 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: And I think that kind of goes in line with 411 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: Mike Renner's point about these guys being several years in college. 412 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: Five year player for your player, six year player, that 413 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: type of thing. So when you're a guy like that, 414 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: the expectation is you hit the ground running. 415 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 2: No at the pro level. Okay, well, I mean you understand. 416 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 3: That, right, I understand someone saying that to me, sure, 417 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 3: but I understand how that's not logical, being as though 418 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 3: I've been around the sport, because I can easily see 419 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 3: someone thinks that and thinking that, well, he has four 420 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 3: or five years in college, he should be ready to 421 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 3: go in the pros. 422 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 4: No, that's an amateur sport. 423 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 3: This is where people have mortgages, they have kids, they 424 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 3: have all these things. Responsibilities change, so the game is 425 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 3: a little different, and that's why it takes guys a 426 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 3: couple of years to kind of get going. Usually he's 427 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 3: by that third year where you could say a guy 428 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 3: playing at whatever position, now we know. 429 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 4: What you are. 430 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 3: You're absolutely right, God, and other than that, we're trying 431 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 3: to figure things out, and you're trying to figure them 432 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 3: out as a player. But that third year, that's when 433 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 3: we know. So just because a guy played either fifty 434 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 3: year senior or super senior, that doesn't necessarily mean he's 435 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 3: going to walk into the league and dominate. 436 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 4: That's not how this happens. 437 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 2: Go ahead, Grant one more time. You're absolutely right. All right, 438 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 2: we'll come back. 439 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna hear from Bonicks with voice Lebroncos Dave Logan. 440 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: I want to get into what we saw in Bonix's performance. 441 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 2: We'll do that next. 442 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 3: We were talking about Pat Bryan earlier and Pat caught 443 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 3: that slant route and it was off with a three 444 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 3: by one set. If you look at that same touchdown 445 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 3: to Nate Atkins, it was off with three by one set, 446 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 3: gunstrong with Marvin Mahams going from left to right in motion. 447 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 2: But they do it, but they'd already run that play. 448 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 2: They've been setting that up. 449 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 3: And this is why, like last year, we saw Marvin 450 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 3: Mahams in that situation where he was put in into 451 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 3: zoo formation and what I mean by that putting the 452 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 3: wide receiver in the backfield, but also having him do 453 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 3: a lot of behind the line of scrimmage motion and 454 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm all for that if there is an 455 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 3: evolution to that adjustment. 456 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 4: And it was great. You could see the Jets defensive. 457 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 3: Players and man coverage all slide on the motion. But 458 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 3: the biggest thing was sauce Gardner talking to the safety 459 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 3: trying to alert him. Okay, well, hey, what are we 460 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 3: gonna do in this situation? Courtland ran the post route, 461 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 3: occupying the safety and sauce Gardner leaving the flat defender 462 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 3: to go like, is Nate Aggins really trying to block me? Oh, 463 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 3: he's not gonna block me. I'm about to make this. 464 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,239 Speaker 3: Oh he just scored. That's exactly what it was. 465 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: It's tremendous. With Voice of the Broncos Dave Logan after 466 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 1: the game. 467 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 7: Talk with the quarterback of the Denver Broncos bow Knicks 468 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 7: boats Dave Logan again sort of late game heroics. 469 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 4: You guys had had a lot. 470 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 7: Of trouble sustaining anything in the second half, but that 471 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 7: one drive was. 472 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 4: A drive you settled for three and yet you moved 473 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 4: almost the length of the field. 474 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 6: Yeah, we had to have that, you know, Obviously we 475 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 6: had to go get points. But yeah, just a strange half, 476 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 6: just absolutely no rhythm. 477 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 4: But you know, it is what it is. 478 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 6: Got to control what we can control and just move on. 479 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 7: Hey, let me ask you a question for people driving 480 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 7: around back in the Denver area that that here. I 481 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 7: think I have an idea of when you say we 482 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 7: just had no rhythm for somebody that might not how 483 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 7: how would you quantify that to what does that mean 484 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 7: to you? 485 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 6: I think just getting positive plays, getting completions, getting a 486 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 6: first down, you know, getting in situations where we kind 487 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 6: of can you know, dictate what they're doing and not 488 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,959 Speaker 6: just getting you know, where they getting pinned back and 489 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 6: just you know, attack us, but actually attack the defense. 490 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 6: But overall, I thought, you know, first half, we did 491 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 6: some really good things. We started fast, you know, did 492 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 6: a lot of good stuff. Just didn't you know, score 493 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 6: a whole lot of points in the first half. And 494 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 6: then it was kind of felt like the opposite in 495 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 6: the second half to where just lack of just rhythm, 496 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 6: lack of completions, so really easy plays and that just 497 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 6: kind of you. 498 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 2: Know, turn into a bunch of three and outs. 499 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll get you out of here on this. Uh. 500 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 4: I have to ask you about the defense. I mean 501 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 4: they hold the Jets. 502 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 7: The Jets finished with minus ten yards net passing, which 503 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 7: sets an all time Broncos record. Nine sacks on justin fields. Uh, 504 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 7: you know, you you've got your side of the ball 505 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 7: to worry about, but it's got to make you feel 506 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 7: pretty good to look over on that other side and 507 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 7: see what they do. 508 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: Well. 509 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think honestly that's the you could say that's 510 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 6: the only reason we won. They kept the offense from scoring. 511 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 6: We gave them bad fields on six points and then 512 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 6: they you know, obviously that safety where that's really the 513 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 6: majority of their points. I guess they got three on 514 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 6: their own where they actually just staying to drive. 515 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: But ye, you know, thank goodness for. 516 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 6: Our defense, we were able to pull this one out. 517 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 7: You know what, it's it's a win. You're four and 518 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 7: two seeing on the plane and we'll talk to you. 519 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 4: This week shut out. A win's a win, Thank you? 520 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: All right, there you go Bonix following the game, Jonathan Cooper, 521 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: Nick Bonito. All those postgame interviews are on demand right 522 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: now Kwacolorado dot com wed wvite you to subscribe to 523 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: the podcast, which I've mentioned many times, is totally awesome 524 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: and completely free. 525 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 2: So check that out at your leisure or right now. 526 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: It's also redesigned like you have in your car with presets, 527 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: so you can set all of our wonderful stations on 528 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: iHeart right there at your fingertips. 529 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 2: Pretty cool stuff. It's seven to seven right now. 530 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: The Atlanta Falcons march right down the field and Tyler 531 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: al Jieran in a twenty one yard touchdown, and then 532 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills with a The first pass went to 533 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: Josh Palmer for like forty five yards, and then they 534 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: were able to work into a situation where Josh Allen 535 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,959 Speaker 1: threw a touchdown pass to Dawson Knox, so we're all 536 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: tie to seven. The Falcons just punted after a three 537 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: and outs from midfield five six, six nine zero Kerry 538 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: Connas spirit heal text line. All right, So what did 539 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: you think of Bo Nickx's performance yesterday? 540 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 3: It wasn't his best performance, but I will say that 541 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,239 Speaker 3: Bo's a competitor, and you can see him trying to 542 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 3: will some plays into action, and even on that play 543 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 3: where Troy Franklin formed the ball and the ball was 544 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 3: not free, you could see bow knicks avoid the sad right. 545 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 3: I mean there was pressure that came over Mike mcglitchy. 546 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 3: He did a great job. He was keep trying to 547 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 3: keep his eyes down field, but there was a guy 548 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 3: that flashed right away, and it was his mobility and athleticism. 549 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 3: If bowl was what we could call the traditional statue 550 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 3: as quarter that goes down as a sack, but because 551 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 3: he's a mobile quarterback who has the tendency to hold 552 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 3: the ball longer than anticipate. 553 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 4: You know why. 554 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 3: Because he's mobile, he's trying to make a freaking play, 555 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 3: so he gets outside the pocket, find Troy Franklin. So 556 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 3: with Baul just having more opportunities to make plays outside 557 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 3: the pocket. 558 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 4: And I told Bold this during training camp. 559 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 3: You're one of the better quarterbacks in this league at 560 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 3: making plays off platform while scrambling, which is hardest heck 561 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 3: to do, and throw with accuracy. 562 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 4: So I'm thinking why not put him in more of. 563 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 3: Those situations that are more advantageous for him. You're absolutely right, 564 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 3: thank you, And I like everything that you know Boll 565 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 3: actually stands for. But obviously, as all players, there's certain 566 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 3: aspects of his game that he needs to clean up. 567 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 3: But we've seen progressively week by week the dude is 568 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 3: getting better. So I have nothing negative to say about it. 569 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you on that, and I say, if 570 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: there's anything for me, I probably say. I quibbled a 571 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: little bit with some of the play calling in the 572 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: second half, especially. 573 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 2: I mean, you're running in with a full back on 574 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 2: third and ten at that point, a full back. 575 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: Yes, it's all right with that, apprentice, I think it. 576 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 2: Anyways, there was a. 577 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: Maybe a recognition of how well the defense had played 578 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: at that point. You're trailing, by the way, when they 579 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: did that, you're trailing by one point. 580 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 2: It's third ten. I understand it's not an easy thing. 581 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: To pick up, but it was just this like, yeah, 582 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: you know, we're not gonna be able to We're not 583 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: gonna complete this. We're just gonna try to punt it 584 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: and put our defense back out there on the field. 585 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: It almost reminded me of like the Bears with Devin 586 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: Hester and that we like with all those really great defenses. 587 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, we have limitations on offense. It 588 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: is Rex Grossman here, we have limitations on offense. We're 589 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,239 Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and just punch this back to you. 590 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 1: We let our defense out of the field. You're gonna 591 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: get a three and out and then you're gonna punt 592 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: it to Devin Hester, and that's how we're gonna score points. 593 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 4: It just it. 594 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: Felt like they had resigned to the fact that it 595 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: was just gonna be that kind of game. 596 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 2: When you know what you're. 597 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 3: Alluding to, Ryan, you're doing a fancy way of tap 598 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 3: dancing around is like fred A stare, You're absolutely right. 599 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 4: Oh my god. So what you what you're in. 600 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 3: Is that the idea of the Broncos defense has given hey, 601 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 3: coach Sean Payton an opportunity to play with house money. 602 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 4: I can be a little more risky. 603 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's like always that way, but 604 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,719 Speaker 1: I say this game, there was certainly an understanding at 605 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: that point late in the third quarter of let's not 606 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: make a mistake and put the defense in an even 607 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: worse situation because the defense, by the way, as we 608 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: talked about at the very beginning of the show, had 609 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: the profits turned it over right, Trogy Franklin had the fumble, 610 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: which again you're calling that a fumble and not to 611 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: call them Garrett Wilson thing. Anyways, fumble bad situation held 612 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 1: the three points kickoff return for seventy two yards held 613 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: the three points. 614 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 2: The Broncos defense was lights out. They really were unbelievable. 615 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: And at that point, if I'm going with the flow 616 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: of the game, I would probably lean on them in 617 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 1: those moments too. 618 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 4: I mean, you heard both say it himself. 619 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't win them without him, and that that 620 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: is the the absolute truth. It's it's it's just a 621 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: fact that game. And you know, the Jets helped, Let's 622 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: not get a twisted and kneeling out the clock at halftime, 623 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: and then. 624 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 4: That didn't help. 625 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: That didn't help, and and and playing into the teeth 626 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,959 Speaker 1: of the Broncos defense. We're talking about with our guy 627 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: Dave Tepper, who was wonderful at his job as well. 628 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: We're talking about him during one of the breaks, and 629 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: he was saying a point that we hadn't brought up yet, 630 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: which is, if Hall is pretty good at catching passes 631 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: out of the backfield, he's actually really burned the Broncos 632 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: multiple times over the years when he played Hi against 633 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: him doing just that. He didn't get a single target 634 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: in the game. 635 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 8: And who's fault is that? Justin fields obviously five six 636 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 8: six idea of anything you'd like to say, Ryan, I 637 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 8: will allow you to genuflect. 638 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: I gave you. Listen, you came in for three hours 639 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: of broncos react, which I'm grateful for, and I gave 640 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: you the floor right off the bat to say all 641 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: the things you needed to say about justin Fields. But 642 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: I love this on the text line. I really hate 643 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: to hear Ben gloat. But Ben, if you see this, 644 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: you are right about justin fields. That is all. 645 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 9: That's not even the only one I know next that 646 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 9: is littered with this. Please apologize to Ben. He will 647 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 9: be insufferable. I'm not apologizing for anything. I'll give you 648 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 9: the opportunity to go ahead and admit you're absolutely right. 649 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 9: It is Thank you right, sure, well done. 650 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 4: Killing me. You think about justin Fields. 651 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 2: You made some good points. 652 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 4: It's how bad he is. It's not really that, Ben. 653 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 3: I think if you're going to put it in context, 654 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 3: I think you have to include the whole gambit of things, 655 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 3: not just the fact that. 656 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 4: This guy is. 657 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 9: I mean, he does think he can't throw an accurate 658 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 9: pass and it takes forever to decide for the field. 659 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 9: But at least it's compensated for by the fact that 660 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 9: nobody else coaching staff can do anything either. 661 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 2: So you have three hours of that coming up. I 662 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 2: don't even need to ask you about the Giants. 663 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 4: Oh really, we don't. 664 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 3: We don't. 665 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 2: We don't dwell on our wins, Ryan, we don't dwell 666 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 2: on our wins. 667 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 4: That's a new one. 668 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: We win enough that we don't have to dwell on 669 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: our wins. Taking sort of a chiefs approach to things. 670 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: How appropriate? 671 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 2: How many super Bowls have they won lately? 672 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 4: How many? 673 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: How appropriate of you, of all people to take a 674 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: chiefs approach, Ronda Cincinnati. Okay, take the Belichick approach after 675 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: this weekend. I don't think I don't think you want 676 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: to take that Approachio Kedler. 677 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, at least he's not James Franklin. Oh man, 678 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna say Franco there, and I 679 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 2: was like, how dare you, sir? That would have been interesting. 680 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: Okay, So that's coming up right now. Still seven all 681 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: but the Falcons are. They're inside the Buffalo nine yard 682 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: line here at the second in goal. So should be 683 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: a really entertain game. We got another game tonight with 684 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: the Bears and Commanders against Ben's Commanders. 685 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 2: That's coming up here. 686 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: We're talking just for a moment about the chief speaking 687 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: of the Chiefs the Chiefs game last night and the 688 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: refs calling the Jared Goff touchdown the David Montgomery passed 689 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: to Jared Goff on the left settled sideline. It was 690 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: a beautifully designed play. So they said that it was 691 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: the illegal motion on Jared Goff. But then and I 692 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: told you guys this in the break afterwards, when the 693 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: poor report talks to the refs about that specific play, 694 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: do you realize if you had to run from shotgun, 695 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: it wouldn't have been illegal motion only because he was 696 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: under center. That's the only reason that it ended up 697 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: being legal motion. And he needed to stop and get 698 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: set before they ran the play. But if he just 699 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: would have run from shotgun, he could have kept on 700 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: running and they would have they would have let him 701 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: do that. 702 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 4: I understand that. 703 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was, but I definitely understand it because now 704 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 3: you have gone from a position where you under centered, 705 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 3: you were still now you had a motion, so you 706 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 3: have to come to some kind of stoppage before you 707 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 3: start to run your route. I mean great, great for creativity. 708 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 3: You got to give John Morton a lot of credit. 709 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 3: His team has scored a lot of points at the 710 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 3: beginning of the season. Well not yesterday, but yes otherwise 711 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 3: mostly a. 712 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 9: Lot of I think you got to give the refs 713 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 9: even more credit for knowing the rules better than John Morton. 714 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 2: In fairness, that's that's actually the correct take. Grant, great 715 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 2: job as always. I appreciate you, Nick, This was a 716 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 2: lot of fun. 717 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 4: Really appreciate you, Ryan, I really appreciate you. 718 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: Don't you dare play that again? Ben, I will see 719 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: you tomorrow for Kerry Sports. Looking forward to it. 720 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, as a B side and b C T next