1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:00,920 Speaker 1: Thick ferg How are you? 2 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 2: I'm good. How about you? 3 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: I'm doing great. What's the stand there? 4 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 2: It's a stand? 5 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 3: Thank you for that. Yeah, I literally called it that. 6 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 3: Why is it here? 7 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 4: Well, as you can see, there is a stand, and 8 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:18,159 Speaker 4: attached to the stand, there's another apparatus which is a 9 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 4: place for my phone. So I'm gonna put my phone 10 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 4: there at some time. 11 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: Are you going to film yourself during the show? 12 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: Yes? 13 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: I am okay, yes, so we're doing that today. 14 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 15 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 4: Well I'm just asking wait, wait, wait, If I don't 16 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 4: film myself, who else is gonna film me? 17 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: I can answer that. 18 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: I was going to say, I think not to have 19 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:43,279 Speaker 1: a responsible Well you can. 20 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 4: You can't answer that without any issue with HR because 21 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 4: you could film me in this current environment. 22 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: Why are you looking at Grant? I'm just don't look 23 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: at Grant. 24 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: I'm just waiting for Grant to to say what to 25 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: do something. 26 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 4: No, No, there's no bells, there's no whistles. We can 27 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 4: kind of in this setting, and only in this setting 28 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 4: that we can kind of film one another doing what 29 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:09,919 Speaker 4: we do on the radio. 30 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: Anything else I'm not game from. 31 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 4: I'm sure Dave wouldn't be uh into anyone filming him 32 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 4: on any film. Well, I mean, well, Ryan was kind 33 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 4: of alluding to filming outside the realm of the studio, 34 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 4: bringing an hr. I said, no, we can film one 35 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 4: another within the walls of this studio. That's the only 36 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 4: thing that's allowed. 37 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: Oh are you glad you came in? Yeah? Yeah, good 38 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 2: to see you. Go see you guys too. Yeah. See, 39 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: I'm just hoping that Ryan wore his raincoat today. With 40 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: all this watermelon juice, I'm about to spiel. 41 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 3: Oh come on, now, come on now, what really? 42 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: What did I say? What did I say what I 43 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: say over the week? 44 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: Did you? 45 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 2: Yes? I did. 46 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: Somebody somebody said that they're like with a couple of. 47 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 5: People that I know want a very good friend. I 48 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 5: defended your honor, I said, he's fine. Really, yes I did. 49 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 5: But what were the accusations. 50 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 2: Well, they had something to do with Nick had just 51 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: alluded to. 52 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 4: Well, for me to put it in context, I'm only 53 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 4: saying that as to you know, having a great show 54 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 4: today and having. 55 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: A little back and forth. 56 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 4: That's why I'm smashing my watermelon over there. 57 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 5: I want back and forth. Yes, Well, what did you 58 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 5: think like a windshield wiper? Yes, just like Winshill wiper. 59 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: Was that the only thing that they accused me of. 60 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 5: Uh, pretty much, And it really wasn't in an accusatory way. 61 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 5: It was more like, man, listen, it's all it's all good. 62 00:02:58,960 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: It's all good. 63 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 4: It's all Ryan, it's all good, it's all good, as 64 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 4: we would saying it's all the hell millennial doing. 65 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: Try to fix his TV. 66 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 2: You're looking for the. 67 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 5: Gym gymnastics team in the Olympics. 68 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: Just limburn up back here. 69 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, look look a little like something so laid back. 70 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: There, did a little stretch in. 71 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: It's good. Yeah, there you go. 72 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: On Monday, Monday, after a long weekend, I got certain. 73 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 4: We can we call this a victory Monday, even though 74 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 4: the Broncos didn't play because they didn't love. 75 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, So it is a victory Monday. 76 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: It feels like, uh like what like participation trophy kind 77 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 3: of victoria Monday. 78 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: Oh no, listen, well then you should like it. 79 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 6: I didn't I say that one I say. 80 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: Like it or just like it. I just saying it 81 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: just feels like that. 82 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 4: But no, it's it's victory Monday fourteen and three number one. 83 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 4: See you got the weekend off to watch everyone else 84 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 4: play and you didn't lose a game. 85 00:03:53,600 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: That's victory Monday. All Ryan, I'm here for it. Celebrate 86 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: victory Monday. 87 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 3: Although it's the one team I was most concerned with 88 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 3: the Broncos facing. 89 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, victory Monday. Let's do this. 90 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 4: The team doesn't plan to Saturday. We have all week 91 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 4: for the rest of that stuff, right, Let's just celebrate. 92 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, So the Broncos are going to officially play the 93 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills. We talked about all the different scenarios last week, 94 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 3: the four different teams the Broncos might end up facing. 95 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 3: I guess the good news the pause. I mean, there's 96 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 3: a lot of possive news. In fact, actually the Buffalo 97 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 3: is really banged up coming into this game, which is 98 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: part of it. 99 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: And on a short week, is. 100 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 2: That you know who it is. 101 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 3: We're not going into tonight's game going like, all right, well, 102 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 3: could be the Texans, could be the Steelers. You already 103 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 3: know your opponents. The Broncos can get prepping on the Bills. 104 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: I'm sure they did almost immediately as soon as they 105 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 3: beat Jackson Bvillood. Imagine that was the mindset of the 106 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 3: team even at that moment, saying hey, let's go ahead 107 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 3: and put this thing together looks increasingly like Buffalo. What 108 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 3: was your reaction to that, to the way the Bills won, Well, 109 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 3: we could get into that. Are just just curse your 110 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 3: thoughts of the. 111 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 5: MA I think I think it's as it should be 112 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 5: when you're talking about, Hey, if if you win this game, 113 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 5: you're going to go play in the AFC Championship. So 114 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 5: I think it's a really tough game, really difficult game 115 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,679 Speaker 5: for the Broncos, and I think it's it's equally tough 116 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 5: and difficult. 117 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 2: For the Bills. 118 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 5: So I you look at this game and I think, 119 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 5: and we'll we'll have a chance to break it down, 120 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 5: obviously during the next three hours. But I think it's 121 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 5: I I just want the Broncos, and I think they 122 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 5: do understand where they are, right. I mean, they're they're 123 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 5: the number one seed. They they didn't have to play 124 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 5: this past weekend. Buffalo played a hard game, and you 125 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 5: got two home games, and I think you look at 126 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 5: it that way and don't buy into the Hey, we're 127 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 5: not looking at two home games. We have to win one. 128 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 5: That's fine. I'm looking at it. You have two home games. 129 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 5: You got to win two home games to go to 130 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 5: the Super Bowl. How many times are you going to 131 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 5: be in this position over the next whatever seven or 132 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 5: eight seasons. 133 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 2: How many times? 134 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 5: Now we expect this team to be a perennial playoff 135 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 5: competitive team, for sure, but how many times over the 136 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 5: next seven or eight years do we think which would 137 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 5: take next into his tenth year? Do we think the 138 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 5: Broncos are going to be the number one seed in 139 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 5: the AFC. It's hard to do, and they earned it. 140 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 5: They did everything they had to do to get there. 141 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 5: But now you've got to take advantage of it, and 142 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 5: you're going to have to beat two good teams in 143 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 5: order to get to the Super Bowl. 144 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: And that's how I view. 145 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 3: It, Honestly, the more I sat with it, once you 146 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 3: kind of became real, there's a part of me this 147 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 3: looking forward to seeing what the Broncos can do with 148 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 3: this challenge. Like I think what we've been discussing over 149 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 3: the course of the last few weeks of the season 150 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 3: is playing up and down two opponents and doing just 151 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 3: enough to get by the Chiefs, are doing just enough 152 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 3: to get by the Chargers. You're not gonna be able 153 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 3: to do just enough. You're gonna have to be aggressive. 154 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 3: You're gonna have to be relentless, really in all three 155 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 3: phases to beat the Buffalo Bills. I don't care how 156 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 3: banged up they are. This is Josh Allen, this is Superman. 157 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: Right. 158 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 3: So there's a certain amount of me that after I 159 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: sat with it, saying, well, you know what, there's not 160 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 3: much of excuse here for the Broncos. They've got to 161 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 3: go play their best game and they're gonna have to 162 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 3: do that on a national stage. They might even get 163 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 3: the primetime game. They might even be the Saturday night 164 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 3: featured game. I don't know the time. You think it's 165 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: leaner and closer to the. 166 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: I think it's going to be an afternoon game. Okay. 167 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 3: You know, I just wondered if the NFL wants Josh 168 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 3: Allen in that time slot, you know, because it's the 169 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 3: third time for the forty nine ers in Seahawks to play. 170 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 5: I would think the NFL wants San Francisco and the 171 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 5: market in the prime slot. That's a good point, you know, 172 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 5: Buffalo and Denver smaller TV markets. I mean, we'll see. 173 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 5: My guess is it'll be it'll be in the afternoon. 174 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 5: I yeah, I agree with everything you say, right, I 175 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 5: think I think Buffalo comes in and Josh is playing. 176 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 5: If the Bills were playing to anybody but the Broncos, 177 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 5: I'd be rooting for the Bills. You know, I root 178 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 5: for Josh Allen because I think he has to look 179 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 5: at this the same way that I hope the Broncos 180 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 5: look at this. Hey, we're two games away. Both of 181 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 5: them are going to be on the road without Mahomes, 182 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 5: without Lamar, without Burrow, without Herbert, and I got a 183 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 5: shot here. Josh Allen, I can promise you is saying 184 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 5: this might be the best shot that I have for. 185 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: The remainder of my career. I'm sure he's definitely saying that. 186 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 4: And right now, I think the Vegas odds had the 187 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 4: I guess its minus one and a half. 188 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 2: So we've seen this play out. 189 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 4: Before as far as Vegas counting against the Denver Broncos, 190 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 4: and I think it was the Green Bay Packers game 191 00:08:58,520 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 4: and the Broncos won that. 192 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,119 Speaker 2: So I know there's individuals who've already. 193 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 4: Started saying, Okay, well the Broncos will be able to 194 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 4: use that at again, But I would caution that and say, well, 195 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 4: the piggyback off what Dave said. 196 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 2: Josh Allen would do the same thing. I mean, I 197 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 2: went to school and Wyoming. 198 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 4: This is me talking as though Josh Allen and the 199 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 4: Broncos organization overlooked me. 200 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: Right, we beat them one time before last year. That's 201 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 2: not enough. 202 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 4: Now I get a chance to go to their home 203 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 4: and doing in front of their home fans. 204 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 2: So even why the Broncos. 205 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 4: May feel as though as the number one seed they've 206 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 4: been disrespected, I'm sure Sean mcderman is gonna tell this team, 207 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 4: guess what, like nam Corn told the jackson jack Bars, 208 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 4: you're being disrespected to as well. We have legacies and 209 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 4: storylines all over the place. Sean Payton is trying to 210 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 4: make NFL history. It's never been a coach to win 211 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 4: the Super Bowl with two different teams, never, So I 212 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 4: know that's on the back in the back of his mind, 213 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 4: even though he may not say anything about it. 214 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 5: Josh Allen and Sel McDermott might be his best chance 215 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 5: to that's right for Sean Payton. 216 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 4: I just think if dermott didn't win the game against Jacksonville, 217 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 4: words that were having a different conversation. Now now he's 218 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 4: on his way out, now things have turned around. He 219 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 4: has a chance. 220 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 2: Now can he do it? In the powerfield on Saturday, 221 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 2: we'll get the chance to see it. 222 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 5: To next point, the Bills are a point and a 223 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 5: half favorite, and Vegas establishes those Lions trying to get 224 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 5: equal betting on both sides, right, so you would think, well, 225 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 5: Denver's got home field advantage, maybe Denver's gonna come in 226 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 5: as a three point favor. This clearly says that Las 227 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 5: Vegas believes if they had put Denver's a three point favor, 228 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 5: if they wouldn't have had any Denver money, it would 229 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 5: have all been on Buffalo. Part of that is the bias, 230 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 5: the recent bias of seeing that game yesterday and seeing 231 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 5: the fact that they played a good team on the 232 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 5: road and Jacksonville had the lead and here comes Josh 233 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 5: Allen the Bills offense, and they drive the length to 234 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 5: the field and you know, do what they do. So 235 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 5: we've seen them more recently that we have seen the Broncos. 236 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 5: The other part of it would be the narrative of 237 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 5: the Broncos. To next point that now you guys are lucky. 238 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 5: Oh you're not get good. The offense is not any good. 239 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 5: You guys have been lucky to win. You don't lucky 240 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 5: yourself into fourteen wins in the NFL. 241 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: You don't, You just don't. 242 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 5: You got to be a good football team to get 243 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 5: to that point. You may luck your way into two 244 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 5: or three wins, all right. So, but I also think 245 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 5: Sean Payton will mention to the team maybe that with 246 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 5: the Bills favored in this game, it would represent the 247 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 5: second time in NFL history that a number one seed 248 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 5: is a home dog in the first game that they play. 249 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 5: The only other time this has happened, and the quarterback 250 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 5: was hurt. The starting quarterback got hurt for the Eagles, 251 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 5: and that's when Nick Foles came in. I think it 252 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 5: was the Falcons that went to Philadelphia and Alana was 253 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 5: favored in that game, right, And Philadelphia won that game 254 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 5: and the next game, and then they won the Super 255 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 5: Bowl beating New England. 256 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 2: So I think there is a little. 257 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 5: Bit of disrespect here, and I think once the game 258 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 5: starts and all that doesn't matter. Doesn't help guys play, 259 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 5: but it does I think from an emotional standpoint, you 260 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 5: are in tune with that. When it's brought up tomorrow 261 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 5: when the Broncos come in, I just think to mention that, 262 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 5: you know, you got a whole bunch of competitive horses 263 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 5: in that room that. 264 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 2: Would you mentioned that, it'd be like, huh, okay, well. 265 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 3: It's paid off of the team. I'd say most of 266 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 3: the season to be from that underdog role. And now 267 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 3: you are the one seed in the AFC. You've been 268 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 3: on buy and yeah, they're still disrespecting us, they still 269 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 3: don't believe in us. 270 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: I think that's it's easy at that point. 271 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 3: In fact, John May and I have to even have 272 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 3: to say anything because the guys, you can see it, 273 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 3: they're gonna know, so he'll use whatever motivation. I've been 274 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 3: interested to see how much of last year's postseason game, 275 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 3: like there's been a little bit of that from fans like, 276 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 3: oh a revenge opportunity from what happened last year, don't. 277 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 3: I don't know if that really carries as much weight 278 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 3: year in a year out, does it? 279 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 5: I mean it does to the guys coming back, because 280 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 5: all you have to do is mention, whether it's position 281 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 5: coach or a coordinator or ultimately the head coach. Hey, listen, 282 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 5: playoffs last year maybe just thirty one to seven, and 283 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 5: they kicked our ass up front. 284 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 2: That's it. 285 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 3: At over two hundred rushing yards against that defensive line. 286 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 3: We're gonna Malcolm Roach on Wednesday. I'm interested to see 287 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 3: what his month's mindset is coming to this game. 288 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 4: Well, you know what, when I went back and compare 289 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 4: last game and when we talking about the thirty one 290 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 4: seven to what we saw the last time we saw 291 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 4: this Broncos team lace them up. Very interesting stat in 292 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 4: that Buffalo game that the Broncos lost thirty one seven. 293 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 4: Bow Nick stat line fourteen of twenty three, Right, wasn't 294 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 4: a great passing day for him against the Chargers fourteen 295 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 4: of twenty three eight rushers forty eight yards. 296 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 2: He led the team in rushing in the. 297 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 4: Game in Buffalo, it was four rushing attempts for forty 298 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 4: three yards. 299 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: Why am I mentioning those numbers? 300 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 4: And they say, well, one has nothing to do with 301 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 4: the other because that was last year. This is now, 302 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 4: once again, what Sean mcdermoty is gonna tell his team. 303 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 4: Even though we know the players are changed on the. 304 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 2: Broncos team as well as. 305 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 4: The Buffalo Bills team, we know that we can match 306 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 4: whatever they can do. Now, the question becomes, within this 307 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 4: week or two weeks that the Broncos have had off, 308 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 4: what has Sean Payton done differently with his offense to 309 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 4: create what I call sprinkles and wrinkles. Right, sprinkles and wrinkles. 310 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 4: What I mean by that, as Ryan looks at me 311 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 4: and he rose his eye, is the idea of changing 312 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 4: things up. 313 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: Things that you did. 314 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 4: During the season that you were not successful on, same formation, 315 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 4: down in distance. 316 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 2: Same personnel group. Now I got a wrinkle off them. 317 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: You should have saved that for the camera. 318 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 2: No, I didn't. I didn't need to. I got morning take. 319 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: Okay, great, great, Yeah, wait for the two half hours 320 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: of that. 321 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 3: Another text here on the ka Commas Trudel text line, 322 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 3: do you guys think they're disrespecting us? Or is it 323 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 3: because we've barely beat some really crappy teams? Do you 324 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 3: honestly think we just played down to these bad teams 325 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 3: or we just don't have our act together sometimes? I mean, 326 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 3: there's a little bit of a loaded question. I'd say 327 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 3: from my perspective is the disrespect thing can be played 328 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 3: more from internally. Whether we sit here and we can 329 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 3: debate whether it's disrespect internally, it's how they view it. Right. Hey, 330 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 3: we're home underdogs. We are being called fraudulent, We are 331 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 3: viewed as a week one seed in the AFC, you 332 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 3: know whatever podcast or paper clips or what do they want 333 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 3: to use to use that word disrespect? That's on them. 334 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 3: From from my perspective, it's like, hey, you just keep 335 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 3: winning games. That's that's really all that matters. I mean 336 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 3: in the end, right, Yeah, do you do you? 337 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 4: You guys subscribe to the idea that you played down 338 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 4: to your opponent? 339 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: I do? Yeah, Dave, do you subscribe to that idea? 340 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 4: Because the reason I say that because maybe once, maybe twice, 341 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 4: not multiple games? 342 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: What do you think, Dave do multiple? 343 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 5: Well, what are you saying that that it doesn't happen? 344 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 2: No, I say it does happen. 345 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 4: Now you can get one or two games, but not 346 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 4: multiple or in this case several. 347 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that. I think that people. 348 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 5: In Denver and people outside of Denver, the ones in 349 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 5: Denver that have watched the Broncos lot have expected the 350 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 5: offense to be more efficient, have expected them to be 351 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 5: better in the red zone, have expected them to be 352 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 5: more explosive. 353 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 2: I get all of that. 354 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 5: You you know, you've got a head coach with a 355 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 5: steep offensive background, You've got a first round draft choice. 356 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 5: She had a head coach for the season started said 357 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 5: I think this is a team that can get to 358 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 5: the Super Bowl. Only said that about six other teams 359 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 5: that I've coached. So the expectations have been very, very high. 360 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 5: I would say, you look at what we witnessed over 361 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 5: the weekend, some great, great, great football. And yet from 362 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 5: an offensive standpoint, I mean, the Bears are thought of 363 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 5: as an explosive offense, an offense that very creative, an 364 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 5: offense that two running backs both im excellent, a quarterback 365 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 5: that's young but has gotten better, talented tight ends, good 366 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 5: outside receivers, all that. How'd they do in the first 367 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 5: half at three points? 368 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 2: Right? 369 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 5: I mean, so defense is in the playoffs. Defense is 370 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 5: the name of the game. Offense will be sporadic because 371 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 5: you're playing better defensive teams. The Broncos are not going 372 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 5: to go up and down the field on offense and 373 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 5: look up and they've beaten the Bills forty two to 374 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 5: twenty eight. The only way that happens, or vice versa, 375 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 5: is if one of the teams turns the ball over 376 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 5: three or four times. And so as a head coach, 377 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 5: both Sean McDermott and Sean Payton are saying, yeah, we 378 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 5: want to create big plays, but damn, we don't want 379 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 5: to turn the ball over. Hey, So we're going to 380 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 5: coach being efficient, be prudent in the passing game, don't 381 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 5: force the ball, Josh bo, don't throw if you don't 382 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 5: like it, hit the check down. And so I think 383 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 5: you're going to see, just by the nature of the 384 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 5: mindset of both coaches and the teams coming in, you're 385 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 5: going to see a close, relatively low scoring game. And 386 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 5: Bronco fans have to embrace that because that's the way 387 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 5: and that's to me, the only way this team can win, 388 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 5: and it's the way they've been able to win this season. 389 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 5: They've won ugly games, but they've found ways to win, 390 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 5: and there's some beauty in that alone. 391 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 3: I completely agree, and honestly, that should be the whole 392 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 3: point of where the Broncos have put themselves in is 393 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 3: because they have found ways to win those games and 394 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 3: it doesn't have to be pretty, it doesn't have to 395 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 3: be their best football and that's in a lot of 396 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 3: ways what playoffootball ultimately is. 397 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 5: I mean, the Eagles went to Buffalo not long ago 398 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 5: and didn't complete a pass against the Bills defense in 399 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 5: the entire second half, and oh, by the way, won 400 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 5: the game thirteen to. 401 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 2: Twelve, stunning. 402 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 5: So you know, there's different ways, and every single game 403 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 5: presents different options in terms of, Okay, what's our best 404 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 5: path to win today's game. It might not be what 405 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 5: you planned for, it might not be what you did 406 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 5: last week or the week before, but there'll be a 407 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 5: path Saturday afternoon for the Broncos to win today's game. 408 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 5: And they've got to be adept enough at figuring out 409 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 5: what that is and then going to get it all. 410 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,479 Speaker 3: Right, Rob Early here on a Monday, a victory Monday, 411 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 3: as Nick Ferguson has dubbed it. We will be right 412 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,959 Speaker 3: back with Ian Rapport coming on next Ian Good afternoons, sir, 413 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 3: How are you what's going on? 414 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 6: Hey? You guys doing. 415 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 5: We're doing good, and we thank you for your time 416 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 5: of all the action and I think overwhelmingly the majority 417 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 5: of those games over the weekend we're outstanding. I could 418 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 5: do without the Chargers and the Patriots, especially in the 419 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 5: second half. But what things stood out to you where 420 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 5: there are a couple of things in the action this 421 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 5: weekend that really impressed you mostly well. 422 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 6: I think a couple of things. One, you know, I know, 423 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 6: we do this every year, but it is unbelievable how 424 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 6: many games come down to the last play or a 425 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 6: huge couple plays, and how that's really the difference between 426 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 6: who we like celebrate or not. And obviously this was emphasized, 427 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 6: you know, Raven Steelers to close the regular season, one 428 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,239 Speaker 6: coach loses his job based on a kick. You know, 429 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 6: that's sort of what it's like. And then you know, 430 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 6: Christian Watson doesn't catch a pass on the goal line, 431 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 6: otherwise the Packers would have advanced and the Bears, you know, 432 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 6: heartwarming story when it continued. I mean, I'm always amazed 433 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 6: at how it always does to come down to a 434 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 6: couple of plays, but dontlets makes it. 435 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 2: So great, you know. 436 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 6: And then I think the other thing is, you know, 437 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 6: the the fortitude of some of these teams, like the Bears, 438 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 6: you know, down big, never blink, believe the whole time, 439 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 6: come back and win it. I mean, there's a lot 440 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 6: of fun football that we've seen. There's a lot of 441 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 6: fun football ahead. That was as good a week out 442 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 6: of football as honestly I can remember. And the fact 443 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 6: that we get to do it again tonight, it's pretty. 444 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 4: Good and a great week of games and this weekend, 445 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 4: the Broncos would play host to Josh Allen and the 446 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 4: Buffalo Bills, And I'm wondering because Aussie's alone, I mean, 447 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 4: the national viewpoint and narrative kind of looked at the 448 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 4: Broncos a little different with Josh Allen coming on this weekend. 449 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 4: Do you see it the same? Do you get the 450 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 4: Broncos a shot? Or this is a game that Josh 451 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 4: Allen I say that he can run away with it, 452 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 4: but this is kind of a legacy setting game for Josh. 453 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 6: Allen, you know, I think every opportunity is a legacy 454 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 6: setting game for Josh Allen, Whereas, like you know, with 455 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 6: bon Nicks, he I mean, you know, he's played big 456 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 6: in big moments, but I don't know that there's as 457 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 6: much at stake for bo Nicks. I think he'll be 458 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 6: back whatever it is. But I think for Josh Allen, 459 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 6: you know, the thought of like is he going to 460 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 6: break through? Is he going to get to the super Bowl? 461 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 6: Like that's all pretty real. So I do think it 462 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,959 Speaker 6: exists for Josh Allen, and LEBRONC has about an amazing season. 463 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 6: If I had to guess, I don't know this, but 464 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 6: if I had to guess I would guess that most 465 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 6: of the experts will pick the Bills to win. That 466 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:17,479 Speaker 6: is my thought. They're very talented, they got the magic 467 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 6: with Josh Allen, they could run the ball, you know, 468 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 6: could do a little better stuff in the room. But 469 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 6: they might get at Oliver back this week, which I 470 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 6: think would be a really huge deal. You know, I 471 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 6: don't know why, but it does feel like the Broncos 472 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 6: are playing with house money a little bit, just because 473 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 6: they've had such a magical regular season. But I imagine Sean 474 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 6: Payton is probably timely reminding him of what the whole 475 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 6: country thinks. 476 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: So him anyway, I'm sure he is. 477 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked a little bit out at the at 478 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 3: the top of the show. So with the injuries that 479 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 3: they're dealing with. He saw the Gabe Davis news just 480 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 3: a little bit ago. What are you hearing on Josh 481 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 3: Allen who hurt his hand in the game. He was 482 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 3: coming into with a foot injury. He seemed like his 483 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 3: knee maybe got bent a weird way. I know he's 484 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 3: going to play in the game, but the injury situation for. 485 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 6: Buffalo, well, it's not nothing. I mean, the foot injury, 486 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 6: my understanding it's an irritated bone on the outside of 487 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 6: his foot. That's more of a pain talent issue, but 488 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 6: still a thing. He had a twisted knee, which will 489 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,959 Speaker 6: probably end up being like some sort of a sprain, 490 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,479 Speaker 6: but you know he's gonna play. And then he has 491 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 6: a sprain finger, which it's just a finger, but like 492 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 6: he looked if you guys watched the game, he looked 493 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 6: like he labored throwing the ball a little bit, like 494 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 6: it didn't look natural and smooth. Not a big deal, 495 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 6: but like when you're playing against I don't know, I'll 496 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 6: just make about a thing the best corner in the NFL. 497 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 6: If the ball floats a little bit, that's a big deal. 498 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 6: So like he's gonna play. But I'm not gonna say 499 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 6: it's nothing, because like all those help things are all 500 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 6: honestly pretty real. 501 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 2: Let's shift gears. 502 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 5: New England last night got off to somewhat of a 503 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 5: slow start. 504 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 2: I thought they sort of cracked open the door for. 505 00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 5: The Chargers a turnover and the Chargers just weren't good enough. 506 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 5: I guess on offense to take advantage of it. 507 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 2: But what what what do you? 508 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 5: Does your opinion change about New England going into last 509 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 5: night's game. 510 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 6: After you witnessed the game, No, but I was reminded 511 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 6: of how fierce their defense is. You know, it was 512 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 6: sort of like I thought it would be, which is 513 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 6: like hang around, hang around, the physical Drake maymix a 514 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 6: couple of plays they went, That's kind of what I thought. 515 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 6: But that defense, I mean they kept coming after justin 516 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 6: Herbert like geeze, like at the end. I mean, think 517 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 6: about how many shots he took in the last like 518 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 6: four minutes. I imagine besides a loss, I imagine he 519 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 6: feels awful this morning, and you know, when it's cold 520 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 6: and it's close and it's fierce, like though, that sort 521 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 6: of defensive grit I think matters a lot. 522 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 2: I was. 523 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 6: You know, it's funny because like it wasn't a great game. 524 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 6: It was pretty ugly. I still left kind of impressed 525 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 6: by what the Patriots put on the field. 526 00:25:58,560 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 2: I really did. I did too. 527 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 4: So he in another exciting game and Kyle Shanahan continues 528 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 4: to show that coaching actually matters. And you know the 529 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 4: field Olph Eagles with Kevin Batulo, they've had all types 530 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 4: of offensive issues, especially in the second half of the game. 531 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 2: Well, what does it say about. 532 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 4: John Lynch and Kye Shanahan what they've been able to 533 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 4: do and accomplish with the injuries and known as though 534 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 4: George Killoo another guy you add to that mass unit? 535 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I mean what specifically with Kylee sharonan You 536 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 6: know their rosters, okay, but I think specifically what Kyle 537 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 6: Shanahan has done is amazing and you know, he's as 538 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 6: good as it gets on the offensive side. And when 539 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 6: they added Robert Sala, it was like, I like, this 540 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 6: could be really really good. Now, you know. Injury luck 541 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 6: is I don't know if it's random or not, but 542 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 6: sort of hits you in different ways. You know, losing 543 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 6: you never having Brandon Nyuk, losing Nick Bosa, you lose 544 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 6: Fred Warner, now you is George Kiddle. Like I kind 545 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 6: of wish I could see what this team would have been, 546 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 6: you know, like are they gonna have enough next week? 547 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 6: Like I don't know, it's you know, that's it's a 548 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 6: tall task and it's a lot to overcome. Now they've 549 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 6: done't but it's a lot to overcome. So we'll see 550 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 6: if their story can continue. But like it is unbelievable 551 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 6: that you watch forty nine Ers games and you'll see 552 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 6: Brockberty complete some pass down the field and you'll constantly 553 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 6: be like, who is that? Like, oh, that's Robinson, Okay, interesting, 554 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 6: you know, like that happens a lot, and that's because 555 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 6: they're so good at they're so well coached. They put 556 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 6: their guys in a position to succeed all the time. 557 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 3: On the other side of the ball, of course, as 558 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 3: there typically is, there's a loser here. So what's gonna 559 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 3: be for the Eagles the next move? Here? A J. 560 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 2: Brown? 561 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 3: Is he going to be back? Here's it gonna be? 562 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 3: Changes with the coordinator? H Well, how it's he is 563 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 3: on Nick Sirianni after this one. 564 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 6: I mean, he did win the Super Bowl last year, 565 00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 6: so I think he's he's okay, but you know there's 566 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 6: gonna be some changes. Patool would be the one, I would, 567 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 6: you know, I think most people view that as in doubt. 568 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 6: We'll say, I think that would make the most sense, 569 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 6: and then you know Ken AJ Brown and Ken Jalen 570 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 6: Hurts co exist next year. There was a lot this year. 571 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,479 Speaker 6: I mean it was a lot. And to get rid 572 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 6: of Aj it's expensive because cap wise, you know, I 573 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 6: would say, you know, it's hard to do, so you know, 574 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 6: Obviously we're going to be monitoring, keeping our eye on it, 575 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 6: but I would be surprised if it is status quo. 576 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 4: Well, we know there's been a lot of conversation. No 577 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 4: one's kind of signed any deals as of yet, but 578 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 4: we know the carousel of coaches we're in that particular window. 579 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 4: Have you heard any more about you know, Darren Rizzy, 580 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 4: Davis Webb, or any other news about Vance Joseph as 581 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 4: far as head coaching opportunities. 582 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 6: You know, I think Vance is going to be and 583 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 6: play in several places. You know, the Raiders would be 584 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 6: an interesting one. They interviewed you know, Davis two, so 585 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 6: you wonder like, are they looking at both of them, 586 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 6: one as oc one as head coach. You know, I 587 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 6: would say, uh, definitely something to keep an eye on. 588 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 6: And you know, I would be surprised if everyone's back 589 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 6: because I think Vance would be a fantastic head coach. 590 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 6: But obviously we'll be keeping our eye on it. 591 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: Ian Always appreciated and able to check with you next week. 592 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 6: Thanks you guys. 593 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 3: Thanks Iant. We're talking about the game play and stuff. 594 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 5: Horrible offensive performance and I blame the offense and how 595 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 5: it was schemed up, especially in the second half. We 596 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 5: talked about it in the break. I mean, New England's 597 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 5: doing a great job bringing pressure. They don't change the 598 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 5: launch point on Herbert. They stayed in eleven personnel for most. 599 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 2: Of the game. 600 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 5: They don't max protect it, and all of their routes 601 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 5: were like fifteen to eighteen yard intermediate route. You don't 602 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 5: have time. You don't have time to do that. There 603 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 5: was no screen game, there was no I mean, it 604 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 5: just was atrocious. It's been a long time since I've 605 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 5: seen no matter regular season, postseason, whatever. 606 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 2: Two NFL teams were one. 607 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 5: It's just design pressures to bring and you can't block 608 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 5: it at all, and you don't do anything about it, 609 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 5: and it just continues to happen the entire second half. 610 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 2: Whatever remind me of is watching Joe Burrow with the 611 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals over the past couple of years. 612 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 4: You have a marquee quarterback who you're expecting him to 613 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 4: lead you to the promise line. We know, you know, 614 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 4: whatever you saw this season and last night's game doesn't 615 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 4: heart it is a very talented quarterback. 616 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: Is unfortunate for him. 617 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 4: He happens to pay for the Chargers, who're not doing 618 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 4: a great job of protecting him. And I'm right there 619 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 4: with you, Dave. I was pulling my hair out as 620 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 4: as a former defensive guy. I'm like, can we move 621 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 4: the pocket just a little bit, just pull the guard 622 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 4: and get him out, to just get him outside the. 623 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 2: Pocket, just to change things up. 624 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 4: And I screw up the timing far as the Azurus 625 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 4: that was coming from from the Patriots. 626 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 2: It never happened. I'm like, I know Greg Roman. 627 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 4: Knows more about office than I'll ever know, but I'm like, 628 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 4: come on, man, help help that kid out. 629 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 2: Like I felt helpless and I wanted to help him, 630 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 2: get him off the ground. 631 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 5: But they're just just like, man, it's probably gonna costume 632 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 5: his job. That would be my guess. I don't have 633 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 5: any inside information. It's one thing to lose New England's 634 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 5: really good team playing in Foxborough, playing at night, but 635 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 5: to get I mean that was they snatched your soul 636 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 5: out your body on that one. 637 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 2: I mean it really looked like. 638 00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 5: A poorly coached JV team offense playing an opponent who's 639 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 5: a really good varsity defense. 640 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 2: It's like, okay, this is not even fair. 641 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 3: Well then, Jim Harbory after the games, I told you 642 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 3: in the break when asked if Greg Roman is the 643 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 3: right person to call the place quote, I don't have 644 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 3: the answer for that right now. 645 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean again you're gonna get I mean they kept. 646 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 5: Talking about, you know, the offensive line, and both tackles 647 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 5: were injured, and I understand that and both good players. 648 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 2: But people fail to realize. 649 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 5: I mean, in the NFL, your second guy is an 650 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 5: NFL guy, and even the swing guy who's the third guy, 651 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 5: he's not as good as your starting tackles. But he's 652 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 5: also he's not driving the bus down here, you know, 653 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 5: around the Aurora Mall either. 654 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 2: He's a good player. I just I didn't. 655 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 5: Think the scheme gave the Chargers any chance whatsoever. 656 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 2: I mean, he's standing back. 657 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 5: There like a statue and coming every which way and 658 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 5: he's just getting powdered. 659 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 2: You know, throw the I mean, have him throw it quicker. 660 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 5: You know, how about the design boot or a design 661 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 5: pocket move. 662 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 2: Get the ball in the flat. 663 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 5: You've got McConkie, who's as good a slot receiver as 664 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 5: you have. I mean, it was I just thought that 665 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 5: was as close to coaching malpractice as I've seen in 666 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 5: a long time. 667 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 4: The disappointing part about that is that you knew that 668 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 4: you were somewhat surrendering the game against the Denver Broncos, 669 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 4: So you had time to prepare. 670 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 2: You didn't know who you were going to. 671 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 4: Face or whatever, but you had time to prepare or say, look, 672 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 4: let's change some of the things that we were doing 673 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 4: from a game playing standpoint, and then look at the 674 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 4: issues that you were having even with Trey Lance being 675 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 4: the quarterback. They say, okay, well, here are some problems 676 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 4: that the Denver Broncos were giving us because guess what, 677 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 4: vance Joseph in a defense, they were not vanilla. 678 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 2: Even though it was Trey Lance. They kept coming. 679 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 4: So you look at that game and say, well, how 680 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 4: can we fundamentally be better the following week to help 681 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 4: our quarterback out? 682 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 2: And when that doesn't happen and you and you. 683 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,280 Speaker 4: Are an NFL caliber coach, you've had mobile quarterbacks before, 684 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 4: because Greg Roman has done this with Colin Kaepernick and 685 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 4: Alex Smith before. 686 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 5: I mean it looked like exactly like Trey Lance looked 687 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 5: against the Broncos. Yes, exactly, but we could say, okay, well, 688 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 5: he hadn't played much. He might not have changed the protection. 689 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 5: You know, you didn't slide. I mean there's all sorts 690 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 5: of things that an inexperienced quarterback can do, but it 691 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 5: looked exactly the same with Herbert in there, which to me, 692 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 5: and I'm a huge Herbert fan, to me, screams scheme 693 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 5: and how you're prepared more so than the quarterback does 694 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 5: not playing well.