WEBVTT - Rocky & Jason -- 12/8/25

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<v Speaker 1>The show, and he's out them alongside Jason Williams and

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<v Speaker 1>Jason we're gonna start our show with a little breaking

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals news hit me.

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati Bengals head coach Zach Taylor announced that the team

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<v Speaker 2>has released wide receiver Jermaine Burton. Yes, the team announce,

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<v Speaker 2>so it has waived him.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's your news. How many games have you been

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<v Speaker 3>active this year?

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<v Speaker 4>Zero?

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<v Speaker 1>Zero? Right, yes, zero?

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<v Speaker 2>And then this weekend he didn't make the trip to Buffalo,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like, here's the thing, man, when t when

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<v Speaker 2>T Higgins went down, Like, that's your prime opportunity and

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<v Speaker 2>he's still inactive.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's what you always tell Like I tell

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<v Speaker 1>my kid and kids your your coach say, look, just

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<v Speaker 1>just keep working because your chance will come. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you may not like the circumstances now, but something's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody's gonna get hurt. You're gonna find yourself in the game.

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<v Speaker 1>So just make sure you're ready for when that moment happens.

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<v Speaker 1>And his came and went. T Higgins was down. Could

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<v Speaker 1>it really use a big play wide receiver to stretch

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<v Speaker 1>the field and he wasn't ready to go? And now

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<v Speaker 1>despite many other other problems he has, and now they're

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<v Speaker 1>finally saying we can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Finally guy, Finally, you know, they moved on. And that

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<v Speaker 2>was the twenty twenty four third round draft pick. Off

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<v Speaker 2>the top of my head, yes, yes, yeah, right, thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you, Addie. You know, they took a fly on him,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was obviously the buzz and Nick Saban had

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<v Speaker 2>had made comments like, you know, questioning him, and obviously

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<v Speaker 2>he had played at Alabama, he played at Georgia as well.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, tremendous, tremendous talent, But talent's only going to

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<v Speaker 2>get you so far, especially in the league, especially what

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<v Speaker 2>you know a little bit about.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you see a bunch of guys come in

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<v Speaker 1>and they look like this, and they run this and

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<v Speaker 1>they benched this, and you're like, oh my god, this

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<v Speaker 1>guy's getting ready to just just tear it up. And

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't happen because they're not focused, they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a based of fundamentals, and they have distractions and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just been everything when it comes to that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm telling you, and you know, Mike Brown has

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<v Speaker 2>always been kind of known, much like his father, as

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<v Speaker 2>the quote great redeemer and you know, like to take guys.

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<v Speaker 2>They needed some help, and they hung in there with

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<v Speaker 2>him much longer than probably any other NFL team would have.

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<v Speaker 2>And finally, you know, if the Bengals have said that's it,

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<v Speaker 2>we're done that that I'd be surprised if this guy

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<v Speaker 2>you see this guy in the NFL again?

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<v Speaker 4>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Did they give a reason for why he was suspended

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend rather than just being inactive like every other game?

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<v Speaker 3>As of yesterday?

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<v Speaker 2>I was asking around about it and there was not

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<v Speaker 2>nothing was known in terms of I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>anything ended up leaking out or something, but from what

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<v Speaker 2>I could tell and what I was told, that there

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<v Speaker 2>was nothing. There was no reason given.

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<v Speaker 3>Gotcha, all right?

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<v Speaker 2>So he was inactive, didn't make the trip, and it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't real injury related, right.

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<v Speaker 4>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, if you're just joining us the breaking news,

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver Jermaine Burton has been released by the Bengals,

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<v Speaker 1>and if we find out any more info in that,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be sure to give it to you. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>pivot a little bit here, Jason to the game yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>in general, I mean, a heartbreaker, but you can say

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<v Speaker 1>that about a lot of Bengals games this year. First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, I'll say this just from a pure just

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<v Speaker 1>entertainment standpoint, the first half of that game seen maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the best like dual quarterback play I've ever seen. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>both and Al were just throwing balls that I was

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<v Speaker 1>even I was watching a little bit of with my dad.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like twenty years ago, Like no one even attempts

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<v Speaker 1>that passed like where you fit it in like between

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<v Speaker 1>four guys. Coach would say, you're crazy, why would you

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<v Speaker 1>throw that? And they just do it over and over

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<v Speaker 1>and over again. Well there was the one.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, both those guys had two where they just

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<v Speaker 2>they squeezed it in h Allen that scrambled out and

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, he's gonna I mean, he's just gonna to

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<v Speaker 2>throw it away here tucking in. He's not gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>the first that it was third down and they were

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<v Speaker 2>in the red zone, and then he just I remember

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<v Speaker 2>because Barrett Carter had his back to uh and he

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<v Speaker 2>just somehow, Like I mean, there was four guys around

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<v Speaker 2>the defense and it was one of those I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really even know if you blame the defense as much

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<v Speaker 2>as like the fact that this was a broken play

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<v Speaker 2>and he just somehow threaded some needle and found the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>It was almost I think thrown behind him slightly.

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<v Speaker 1>He broke the rule that every quarterback coach and offensive

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<v Speaker 1>coordinator tells you, which is, if you're rolling out, you

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<v Speaker 1>never throw a ball late across your body across the middle.

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<v Speaker 3>And he did and it it always seems to work

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<v Speaker 3>when he doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe he's in Burrow through that one to Chase

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<v Speaker 2>Brown there in the in the corner right at the

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<v Speaker 2>corner of the front corner us of the right by

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<v Speaker 2>the goal line. And that was that was just that

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<v Speaker 2>was also incredible and dang it, Rocky, it's a dang

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<v Speaker 2>shame that we're not going to get to see those

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<v Speaker 2>two again in the playoffs or potentially. Yeah, the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that we're not going to get and we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get another uh January without Joe Burrow and the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what you want to.

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<v Speaker 2>See those that, like I remember growing up watching football,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, those were the matchups that you that

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<v Speaker 2>they had, like, uh, it was the quarterback that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking John l Way you know from me, Burnie

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<v Speaker 2>Cozar and Jim Kelly and those those are the quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>matchups that that's why those teams were in the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 2>and you live for that, and I mean obviously you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the TV networks love it, and uh.

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<v Speaker 1>We all love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's like, it's just a shame that we're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to get to see that or potentially even

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<v Speaker 2>see that in the AFC Championship game or somewhere along

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<v Speaker 2>some along along the lines in the playoffs, because I

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<v Speaker 2>like and again, I think those are two teams that

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<v Speaker 2>could go either way, and it just you know, it'll

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<v Speaker 2>be It just came down to Burrow through you know

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<v Speaker 2>that guy. That guy made a great play on that.

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<v Speaker 1>That made a great play and and I didn't hear

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation, but it looked like it was gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a different play, probably a run play, and nobody saw

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<v Speaker 1>saw the coverage out there and said boom, okay, basically

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<v Speaker 1>you know a little screen that's a that's an extension

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<v Speaker 1>of the run game, right, So you just it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of weird too, like I don't know, like if

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<v Speaker 2>he went back and watched it, like the way it

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<v Speaker 2>was almost like Burrow was trying to pop it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the way he threw it. It was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like he was almost like pushing it up.

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<v Speaker 3>Like he didn't pop it enough.

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<v Speaker 1>No, he did not.

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<v Speaker 3>That made a great play. That was that was an

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<v Speaker 3>incredible and I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Burrow certainly deserves criticism for you know, how great he was.

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<v Speaker 1>But but I mean, throwing back to back interceptions is

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<v Speaker 1>never good, even though it was just a phenomenal play

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<v Speaker 1>the guy made.

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<v Speaker 3>But but I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean the loss in all this that the defense kind

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<v Speaker 1>of came back regress back to the norm that we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen most of the year. I mean, if they don't,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if Turner doesn't knock that ball out of

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<v Speaker 1>James Cook's hands on the goal line, they go up

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<v Speaker 1>much earlier. In that game, in the second half, Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't really stop anybody. The thing I couldn't understand is

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of times Josh Allen ran.

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<v Speaker 3>For yardage up the middle. I just so frustrating.

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<v Speaker 1>I know for a fact that during the week they said, look, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we cannot give up vertical rush lanes this guy. So

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<v Speaker 1>when you're rushing the past or you got to maintain

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<v Speaker 1>gap integrity, lane integrity, you know, just kind of push

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<v Speaker 1>it back, don't get too wide. And twice it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Once he had a forty yard run and then on

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<v Speaker 1>the basically the final play of the game, the yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the third and fifteen there, so that was I just

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<v Speaker 1>think it still comes down to j in this This defense,

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<v Speaker 1>as I have said, and I'm sure you have said,

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<v Speaker 1>it just doesn't have the talented enough players on it

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to because you're not gonna be able

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<v Speaker 1>to be perfect every time.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometime you just need a guy to just make a.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn play, and they don't really have that guy that

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<v Speaker 1>consistently can do that, or two guys or three guys

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<v Speaker 1>like some defenses do.

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<v Speaker 2>And what what should be concerning I think for Bengals

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<v Speaker 2>fans is that you know, the the defense, it had

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<v Speaker 2>played better and played better in the first staff yesterday,

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<v Speaker 2>and it had played better the last few weeks, and

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, oh boy, like and again, now if they

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<v Speaker 2>would have somehow some way kept us rolling and made

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<v Speaker 2>the playoffs, and you're kind of like, okay, and they

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<v Speaker 2>were showing improvement, But the concern is that like that,

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<v Speaker 2>the front office looks at that window of a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of games and says, that's how we're capable of playing.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that tells us that we're close.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like no, no, no, no, Like you can't now two

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<v Speaker 2>seasons in a row where your defense has cost you

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<v Speaker 2>the postseason. I mean, you know, whether you had Burrow

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<v Speaker 2>playing at an MVP level or you didn't have Burrow

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<v Speaker 2>playing at all for nine games, like, it was still

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<v Speaker 2>the same story your defense. It didn't matter. Your defense

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<v Speaker 2>was so bad. And you know, you know, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote my column to Day once to say dot

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<v Speaker 2>Com about like, you know, Burrow has to be perfect

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just not possible. And and so they've put

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<v Speaker 2>themselves the no margin for air, in a position to

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<v Speaker 2>last two Decembers because of their defense for the most part,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the early season struggles last year anyway, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's just like they're there that we've seen enough sample

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<v Speaker 2>size now that you have to overhaul the defense. You

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<v Speaker 2>have to do something. You have to somehow, some way

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<v Speaker 2>get better at drafting. You have to, somehow, some way

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<v Speaker 2>decide you're going to spend money and get creative and

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<v Speaker 2>spend some money on the defensive side, because this isn't working.

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<v Speaker 2>Trying to sit here and wait for Miles Murphy and

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<v Speaker 2>wait for Shamar Stewart and uh, you know, wait for

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<v Speaker 2>Cam Taylor brid and wait for you know some of

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<v Speaker 2>those younger battle and yeah, it's like it's it's not

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<v Speaker 2>you just run it back mentality just it isn't work well.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're right that, you know, winning sometimes, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>really all the time clouds your opinion because you're winning, Like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen.

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<v Speaker 2>It, Joe Burrow clouds their opinion. Correct, Joe Burrow, Like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we say, we've said a lot, like he

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<v Speaker 2>masks so much for them, and which is great. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that's all part of the team and that's that's his

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<v Speaker 2>job and that's how great he is. And they have

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<v Speaker 2>him and the other thirty one teams don't so good

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<v Speaker 2>for them.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know he cannot. He cannot like do it all.

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<v Speaker 3>He just can't.

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<v Speaker 2>And so like you know, yesterday, that's the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>game where you know that that guy makes an incredible

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<v Speaker 2>play and it's like, okay, well, yeah, Joe Burrow's human,

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<v Speaker 2>like he's gonna make some mistakes here and there, and

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<v Speaker 2>even that one was kind of like that guy made

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<v Speaker 2>a great play and you know Joe Burrow, yes, made

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<v Speaker 2>a mistake, but give that other guy credit to like, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Like Joe Burrow can't even afford to do that, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I mean to your point, you don't want you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want Joe Burrow out there every single game, every

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<v Speaker 1>play thing, and boy, I gotta be perfect here, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's such a luxury if in the back

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<v Speaker 1>of his mind, see, you know what, I can take

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<v Speaker 1>a risk here because our defense will they'll make a

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<v Speaker 1>stop and we'll be fine. But now in his head

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<v Speaker 1>he's probably like, we don't have that luxury at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And then I think I think everything sort of

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<v Speaker 2>the bow was tied.

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<v Speaker 1>On this defense.

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<v Speaker 2>With that last play you referenced it, Josh Allen. It's

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<v Speaker 2>third and fifteen. You get a stop there right around

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<v Speaker 2>the two minute mark, and you give that ball to

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Burrow. Let's go, and you know that's what Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. They flash over to Joe Burrown and like, gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>he's like it was like a serial killer.

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<v Speaker 4>His face.

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<v Speaker 2>You knew you you could feel it. And then they

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<v Speaker 2>let him run right up the middle and Geno Stone

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<v Speaker 2>is ready impositioned for the tackle and the guy just

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<v Speaker 2>like goes one way and Geno Stone is flailing and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, dude, that was tackling runner. But he's not

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<v Speaker 2>like a jukie guy that he literally just made that

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<v Speaker 2>one move and it's like it wasn't like it was

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<v Speaker 2>you know, cat quick kind of move. That's a big guy,

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<v Speaker 2>and he just goes right and then like Geno Stone's

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<v Speaker 2>diving like he's you know, playing fifth grade football and

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<v Speaker 2>just learning how to tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wasn't good. I guess the Bengals are mathematically still alive.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe they have to Steelers has to tie twice

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<v Speaker 1>or something something nuts. But nevertheless, I mean say it

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<v Speaker 1>out loud, this is a Bengals team that has four wins

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<v Speaker 1>in early mid December.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's not a playoff teams. For Engles fans are better, man,

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<v Speaker 2>Bengals fans is are better.

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<v Speaker 1>They've hung in there.

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<v Speaker 2>They've been so loyal to this franchise. They got their

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<v Speaker 2>hopes up rightfully. So after that Super Bowl run and

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<v Speaker 2>then back the FC championship, just barely miss another super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>You got a lot of core pieces from that team.

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<v Speaker 2>One core piece you don't Jesse Bates. But now here

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<v Speaker 2>you are sitting here thinking like what's the future look like?

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<v Speaker 2>Is Joe Burrow the next Dan Marino?

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<v Speaker 3>That's it. That's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so we are going to We'll continue this

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the show here and there, but coming up here next,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk a little college football playoff and

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<v Speaker 1>specifically Notre Dame. Notre Dame getting a lot of heat

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<v Speaker 1>defend the day. I have thoughts. I'm going to defend

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<v Speaker 3>Did they get screwed or was it just fight?

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<v Speaker 2>I I that's a hard, hard question to answer. I

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<v Speaker 2>see the argument on both sides. My my iyre is

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<v Speaker 2>more on what came after that. But I think the

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<v Speaker 2>right now we're focused on did they get screwed?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the same thing I can make an

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<v Speaker 1>army even as a Notre Dame fan, I would admit

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<v Speaker 1>that their schedule wasn't divin't have a bunch of world

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<v Speaker 1>beaters on it. And I admit that a head to

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<v Speaker 1>head loss, even though it was the first game of

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<v Speaker 1>the year and it was by three points. And I

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<v Speaker 1>get it because it's it's empirical data. It's hard to ignore.

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<v Speaker 2>Go through all those teams that are in the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 2>so rock and look, well look at it. Look at

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<v Speaker 2>who played other teams that are in the in the playoffs, right,

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<v Speaker 2>not very many? Well exactly. And then obviously until the

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<v Speaker 2>conference championship games.

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<v Speaker 1>The team that I think that they should have I

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<v Speaker 1>think Miami should have gone. I think the team that

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<v Speaker 1>should have gone in over was Alabama. I called them

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<v Speaker 1>this year and that is not an Alabama team like

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<v Speaker 1>the Alabama teams we've we've seen in the past. And

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<v Speaker 1>they went out and showed that this past weekend. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>they lost by twenty one got killed by George. They

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<v Speaker 1>had negative three rushing yards in the game, and that

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<v Speaker 1>gave them their third loss. And all and again, so

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<v Speaker 1>much with the committee does and what drives them is

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want to set precedence for this and and

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<v Speaker 1>they want the conference title games matter. So they're very

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<v Speaker 1>particular about we're not gonna punish you for making it

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<v Speaker 1>to a conference title game and losing. But it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like they had one loss and they go to the

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<v Speaker 1>title game and get beat No, they already had two losses.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, the.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, and they got blown out.

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<v Speaker 3>And by Georgia. How you play?

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like so much should be And I

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<v Speaker 1>understand eye tests is very subjective, but I mean, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>look at that team, Look at Notre Dame, how they're playing. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>what does your brain tell you, I said, tells you

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<v Speaker 1>that's a damn good team. You're the eye test with

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<v Speaker 1>Alabama right now says they just don't look like a

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<v Speaker 1>dominant Alabama's team. Oh and by the way, they have

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<v Speaker 1>three losses, I think they should have got left out well.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I mean even go in and again, this

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<v Speaker 1>seems like the whole thing is all over the place

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<v Speaker 1>because then like you know, the team's rewarded for blowing

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<v Speaker 1>another team out. But Alabama no, because remember this committee

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<v Speaker 1>members said like that, you know, their gutsy call on

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<v Speaker 1>fourth down to end up beating a five and seven

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<v Speaker 1>Auburn team, Uh, you know, is what really helped them

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<v Speaker 1>in the rankings. Like and they beat them by you know,

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<v Speaker 1>by a touchdown. It's like, again, that was a bad

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<v Speaker 1>Auburn team. That was what got him into the the

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<v Speaker 1>SEC championship game. But you go through here and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you you know, you lost the Florida State You lost

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<v Speaker 1>at home, uh to to Oklahoma, which is in the playoff,

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<v Speaker 1>which they're getting ready they're gonna play in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the first game of the playoffs. And you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>they they struggled in a lot of games. And again like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a win is a win, and win is a win

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<v Speaker 1>in the SEC. But but go look at Notre Dames.

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<v Speaker 1>Resume they won ten in a row.

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<v Speaker 2>They they lost the first two games of the year,

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<v Speaker 2>oh by the way, by a score, won by a

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<v Speaker 2>field goal, and one by one point to two teams

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<v Speaker 2>that are in the playoff, and then they reeled off

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<v Speaker 2>ten games in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean were they won by an average of

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<v Speaker 1>thirty Like so, I remember watching the end of that

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<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame Texas A and M game. If you recall

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<v Speaker 1>that game, it was we missed the extra point, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what won the game. Oh that's right, yep. So but

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<v Speaker 1>I remember thinking my head, all right, well, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>the second game of the year. If they went out

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<v Speaker 1>and continue to get better, they'll be fine. Well now

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<v Speaker 1>they're not. I did want to move forward to really

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<v Speaker 1>what resulted of them getting left out as they made

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<v Speaker 1>it clearer to the nc double or well to the

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<v Speaker 1>College Football Playoff Committee, the Bowl Committee, everybody that they're

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<v Speaker 1>declining any and all bowl invites at all to any

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<v Speaker 1>of these non college football playoff bulls. What what now?

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<v Speaker 4>This one?

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<v Speaker 1>This one?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's let me hear it to me.

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<v Speaker 2>This is just like, oh, we're gonna take our ball

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<v Speaker 2>and go home and like really like it just it's

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<v Speaker 2>a bad it's it's it's just a bad look and

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<v Speaker 2>it's a like it just I think it creates a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of undue criticism for them. And everybody already has

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<v Speaker 2>their opinion on Notre Dame. I'm one of those people,

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<v Speaker 2>like I've always like great respect for Notre Dame and

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<v Speaker 2>just the history and the program and the class and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, obviously a great school and you went there.

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<v Speaker 1>And but what what does plane in that game? The

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<v Speaker 1>the whatever, the pop target?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. And again maybe this is all Pollyanna

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<v Speaker 2>and everything, but it's like, it's one more it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's one more chance to to show to number one,

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<v Speaker 2>for your fans to see that team, for your fans

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<v Speaker 2>to enjoy watching your team play one more time. It's

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<v Speaker 2>an opportunity. Even on the internal part is like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, you're gonna, I think, to keep trying to

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<v Speaker 2>recruit and keep intact the guys you want to keep there.

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<v Speaker 2>And so here's one more chance for those guys to play,

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<v Speaker 2>get better, prepare for next year.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we're gonna make that run.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna all right, we are going to get over

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<v Speaker 2>the hump next year and make the playoff. And I know,

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<v Speaker 2>does all sound I don't know, kind of like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not really making a strong argument, But I think

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<v Speaker 2>too maybe I think you go in there and you

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<v Speaker 2>blow out who are they going to play?

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<v Speaker 1>BYU?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the talk that we're going to play BYU.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was another team that you know people and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, go in there and blow them out, and like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, dump your chest a little bit. See

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<v Speaker 2>we should have been in there. And and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're already making that argument, but let me

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<v Speaker 2>say this.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree on principle with everything you're saying, because I

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<v Speaker 1>am old school and I think if you're a football player,

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<v Speaker 1>you should play football. I would want to play football.

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<v Speaker 1>But I recognize that it is, in my opinion, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a different time. There's the old way and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>new way that's happening. And right now, I think Notre

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<v Speaker 1>Dame is saying, okay, we go to this game, what

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<v Speaker 1>is our incentive to play for it? First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>ten guys aren't gonna be on the team. They're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be going to draft or the college sport. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>not really like you're seeing this year's team again. You're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing kind of the team, which is, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>happened to a lot of schools. A lot of schools

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<v Speaker 1>correct the top players are leaving getting ready for the

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<v Speaker 1>drafts or transferring or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's not there. And then I mean, and I said,

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<v Speaker 3>this just knowing.

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<v Speaker 1>Working for ESPN, we drive the College Football Playoff all

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<v Speaker 1>year long and during the season it is all about

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<v Speaker 1>the College Football Playoff. And I told some of my

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<v Speaker 1>colleagues earlier today on a call, I said, do we

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<v Speaker 1>how much time do we spend talking about a B

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<v Speaker 1>and C team?

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<v Speaker 4>Boy?

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<v Speaker 1>If they if they keep winning, they really can make

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<v Speaker 1>can make their way to the Liberty Bowl this year,

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<v Speaker 1>not one second of Mariton.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so so.

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<v Speaker 1>The so the so the player. Yeah, the players see that.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, well, if you're telling me that the only

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<v Speaker 1>thing that matters is a CFP, why do you give it?

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<v Speaker 1>Damn if we're not, if we're not going to see if

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<v Speaker 1>we do it, do we play again? I also think

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's so transactional.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I said this with Willie Believe it or not. One

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<v Speaker 3>of the incentives when.

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<v Speaker 1>I played was my junior year, if we made it

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<v Speaker 1>to the Fiesta Bowl, it was like we were gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get five hundred dollars in the swag. We got these

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<v Speaker 1>Bow's noise canceling headphones, like the first version right, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was like, oh my god, this is so they

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<v Speaker 1>gave ab out PlayStations. Oh yeah, you know, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's like electronics, but most of a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the top play everybody's got that. Now, well maybe they'd

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<v Speaker 2>had their own money to buy it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's the thing is we're talking about we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get five hundred dollars worth of for a Bowl gift.

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<v Speaker 1>When we got we were getting nothing. Now that gods,

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting paid thousands, if not tens of thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a week. Like I care about some T shirts and

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<v Speaker 1>some headphones or a PlayStation when I'm making all this

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<v Speaker 1>money anyway, So what what where's my incentive to play

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<v Speaker 1>the game?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you brought that up, Rock, because I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's part. Like they've got to find a way. And

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't really dove into it at all, but you've

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<v Speaker 2>got to They've got to find a way. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 2>you know how like, oh, your school makes four million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars for playing in the whatever, the Pop Tarts Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not making every every every team's every school makes

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<v Speaker 2>some kind of money, you know, the payout of the Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>They've got to find a way then, obviously that would

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<v Speaker 2>be beyond I think what the nil cap is of

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty one million dollars a year to each school

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<v Speaker 2>is allowed to give out, but they've got to find

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<v Speaker 2>a way. Your team makes the bowl, this is your bonus,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, almost like a playoff bonus. Agree in the

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<v Speaker 2>major leagues. In the NFL, all those guys they get

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<v Speaker 2>playoff bonuses. Your your team makes the playoffs, you make

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<v Speaker 2>a certain amount of money. Same things should happen here.

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<v Speaker 2>Couldn't agree more. Maybe we won't have as many opt outs,

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<v Speaker 2>and I can I get opting out if you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a first second round draft pick. I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I don't like the whole transfer portal window.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not necessarily the players fault. It's the date they

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<v Speaker 2>need to move that, move that off of there to

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<v Speaker 2>avoid the opt outs for transfers. So but they've got

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<v Speaker 2>to add in, they got to change the transfer portal date,

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<v Speaker 2>and they've got to add in some kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>you're right, that's you're right. Like guys don't want swag anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys don't really care about oh my gosh, you're you're

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<v Speaker 2>we have an awesome, pristine stadium and like super cool facility.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't even want that.

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<v Speaker 3>How much money, how much money you gonna pay me? Right,

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<v Speaker 3>they'll go, they'll go play.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying it's right, but it is because

0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:44.920
<v Speaker 1>we've created this monster and now we got to kind

0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:48.239
<v Speaker 1>of live with it. And I mean I would they

0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:50.520
<v Speaker 1>absolutely need to pay the players for the Bulls again,

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<v Speaker 1>which in in just in principle, I'm against, but if

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<v Speaker 1>they want the Bulls to keep going, they should make

0:25:57.320 --> 0:26:01.760
<v Speaker 1>it like winning team gets seventy, losing team gets thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>Now US season boys get after him play.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, this is the world we're living now. College football

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<v Speaker 1>is about money. We're not They're no longer hiding it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's out there.

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<v Speaker 4>Ye.

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<v Speaker 1>It's what drives recruiting, it's what drives transfer, portal, it's

0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:19.800
<v Speaker 1>what drives everything. Fortunately or unfortunately, we've created this monster.

0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:21.919
<v Speaker 1>So now we either got to say we've got to

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:23.919
<v Speaker 1>keep going and keep going to the these are no

0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:27.639
<v Speaker 1>longer amateur kids anymore, keep going, or say let's just

0:26:27.720 --> 0:26:31.080
<v Speaker 1>go back to the old. And there's an argument for that. Yeah,

0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:33.960
<v Speaker 1>I for the go back and check the record. Ten

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, I was like, just keep it at a

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<v Speaker 1>four team playoff, okay, because realistically only four teams.

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<v Speaker 3>Can really be the national champion, right, But for the

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<v Speaker 3>rest of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Teams, now some of the bowls and the conference titles

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:51.400
<v Speaker 1>still matter, and more teams can feel like we had

0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:54.640
<v Speaker 1>a successful season. Right now, it is if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>make the College Football Playoff, or if you're some scores,

0:26:57.280 --> 0:27:00.879
<v Speaker 1>you don't win it, you're a farewell, you're a failure.

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<v Speaker 1>Or it used to be like, Okay, maybe in Ohio

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<v Speaker 1>you're at Ohio State, you're in a down year.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you're not gonna win the title.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know you could go to the Gator Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>and win an opponent or win or play the or

0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 1>or playing the Big Ten title game, and boy, we

0:27:14.880 --> 0:27:19.200
<v Speaker 1>won the Big You know who won the SEC four

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:22.560
<v Speaker 1>years ago? Who won the American? Who won the ACC

0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:25.920
<v Speaker 1>four years ago? You can't tell me because people don't

0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:29.760
<v Speaker 1>don't care. What a mess it is a mess. I

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:31.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's other things to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>I know we're gonna get to break, but I mean

0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 2>the Notre Dames Athletic or Pete Levaukua coming out basically

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 2>saying that the ACC has done permanent damage to their

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<v Speaker 2>relationship our name, and I guess, you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if the commissioner came out, I didn't see, but

0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:47.800
<v Speaker 2>he was on I saw the clip on Dan Patrick

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<v Speaker 2>and basically where he was like, essentially, I guess the

0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:55.199
<v Speaker 2>lobbying for Miami and the ACC teams to get in

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<v Speaker 2>and rub them the wrong way, and it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not in the.

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<v Speaker 1>A CC for four are trying to force an entertainment

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<v Speaker 1>to Daton and talk to Dave. Dave, you got a

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<v Speaker 1>comment about Notre Dame fire away.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, rock Hey, I was there during the low hoole

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<v Speaker 9>Sclory days and spent forty bucks on Catholic versus com mixture.

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<v Speaker 3>Good luck getting that out of him, right, but uh,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>Okay, Notre Dame guys grew blued and tattooed, and you

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<v Speaker 9>know it goes to show you if if we can

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<v Speaker 9>lose to a pathetic lower level teams like Marshall and

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<v Speaker 9>Northern Illinois and still get in to a playoff and

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<v Speaker 9>and be and make it to a final. That is

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<v Speaker 9>not your argument, you had said before the top four

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<v Speaker 9>team should get in the top Where where what are

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<v Speaker 9>we like tenth? I mean, we were very capable, and

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<v Speaker 9>you know it of winning the whole thing this year,

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<v Speaker 9>and for Alabama to get boat raced by Georgia and

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<v Speaker 9>then we boat race ten teams in a row and

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<v Speaker 9>then they lose to pathetic Florida State team. You know

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<v Speaker 9>that so much SEC bias. And I know you can't

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<v Speaker 9>really rail on your other employer, but there is a

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<v Speaker 9>lot of BS that goes along with the ESPN's SEC

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<v Speaker 9>bias to lobby for Bama.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I might want to check your history,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, on that. When you call Marshall pathetic,

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<v Speaker 2>you might want to check your history on that.

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<v Speaker 9>No, Marshall's a fine team. I was just I was

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<v Speaker 9>just ribbing you there, Jason, while I had you on

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<v Speaker 9>the air. So I just got to get a new

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<v Speaker 9>play by play announcer, you know, getting a little more

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<v Speaker 9>excited when you pull those great upsets off.

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<v Speaker 3>All right exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>Northern Illinois, Yeah, Stanford USC, Yeah, Yeah, I'm just kidding.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Dave some great points and thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that, as I said, I I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I mean say it out loud Notre Dame is

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<v Speaker 1>not playing with a team that they have in jam

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<v Speaker 1>you and Tulane are.

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<v Speaker 7>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no problem with it in functionality though, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's how it's set up now, but should that be

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<v Speaker 1>how it is? And you know, my biggest argument is

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<v Speaker 1>still that Alabama got they beat on the final, last

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<v Speaker 1>second play. They beat a five and seven Auburn team

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<v Speaker 1>that had an interim coach, and then they go out

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<v Speaker 1>and get killed by Georgia or and and look awful

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<v Speaker 1>doing it, and that gave.

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<v Speaker 3>Him their third loss. That means something.

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<v Speaker 2>As the guy who as a Marshall fan who champions

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<v Speaker 2>the little guy, the way this thing is set up

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<v Speaker 2>right now, I would say no, Like, if you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>you've set it up to where you should be the

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<v Speaker 2>best twelve teams. Now, if you were to expand that,

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<v Speaker 2>not obviously to an NCAA tournament, but if you were

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<v Speaker 2>expand it out relatively speaking in football, then I think

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<v Speaker 2>you probably there. There's where you got to let little

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<v Speaker 2>guys in. But this thing is all over the map.

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<v Speaker 2>It's I don't get it and the committee, that to

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<v Speaker 2>me is what needs to be changed, and we got

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<v Speaker 2>to run. I think having a good call with some

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<v Speaker 2>of those folks that they're unpaid volunteers that are supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be really dialed into this, and I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 2>they are. All right, Let's go ahead and we've got

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<v Speaker 14>Growing calls for footage of a boat strike to be

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<v Speaker 14>made public With the four o'clock report, I'm Sean Gallagher

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<v Speaker 14>breaking now. There are some questions surrounding that video of

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<v Speaker 14>a boat strike from September, with the US military attack

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<v Speaker 14>what they say was a drug trafficking vessel. Dozens of

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<v Speaker 14>to these attacks. The Trump administration said they're going after

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<v Speaker 14>political il say survivors on the boat attack back in

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<v Speaker 14>September were wrongfully killed in a second strike by the military.

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<v Speaker 14>There are mixed messages coming out of the Trump administration

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<v Speaker 15>Last week, the President said that he would support the

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<v Speaker 15>release of the video. Our colleague Selena Wang asked him

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<v Speaker 15>they have, referring to the Pentagon, but he says, whatever

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<v Speaker 15>they have, we'd certainly release that, no problem. Now we

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<v Speaker 15>are not hearing that same message from the Defense Secretary

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<v Speaker 15>Keete Hegseth over the weekend. His comments on releasing the

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<v Speaker 15>video were far more noncommittal. Hegg Seth said, whatever we

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<v Speaker 15>were to decide to release, we'd have to be very

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<v Speaker 14>Center Clairemont County Public Health says the preliminary lab results

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<v Speaker 14>Investigators have said that there was no trench box in

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<v Speaker 1>All right, our number two rocking alongside Jason Williams and

0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:25.719
<v Speaker 1>Jason the heavy sports time of year. But maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit buried was the news that came out late

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<v Speaker 1>last week about our mayor.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to have puerival having some call it financial issues.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Seemingly, you're a good friend, that's right, Me and him

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<v Speaker 1>big good friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you him and will you guys go out to dinner? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but you guys got like a quarterly dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>I would do it. I have lots of information I

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<v Speaker 1>would like when I covered I always enjoyed talking at

0:39:52.120 --> 0:39:55.600
<v Speaker 1>he was always accessible and enjoy talking to him. He

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<v Speaker 1>may be accessible, but he's not now his finances right

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<v Speaker 1>now because apparently I guess, not once but twice he's

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<v Speaker 1>had cars that have been repossessed or in danger getting repossessed.

0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Also possibly some things with you know, with his house

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<v Speaker 1>and the rent on that, and and I guess. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>and one hand, it's look what happens to someone in

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<v Speaker 1>their private businesses, that's fine. But on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a guy that's in charge of major financial

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<v Speaker 1>decisions for our city have some problem. Look not a

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<v Speaker 1>good look.

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<v Speaker 2>You're in charge, you're in charge of what over a

0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:34.560
<v Speaker 2>billion dollars budget taxes and you're you know, you're making

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<v Speaker 2>decisions on you know what, how much money to put

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<v Speaker 2>in the streets and all kinds of different programs and

0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:43.080
<v Speaker 2>you can't even have your own financial house in order.

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<v Speaker 2>That is not a good look. You're not sure you're

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<v Speaker 2>you're in the right job.

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<v Speaker 1>Great, No, that's what we want to discuss. We bring

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<v Speaker 1>on our heavy hitter. Look attorney here, Steve Good and

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<v Speaker 1>Steve welcome to the program.

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<v Speaker 4>How are you fantastic? How are you?

0:40:56.880 --> 0:40:58.920
<v Speaker 1>We are good? Steve so, so, what did you make

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<v Speaker 1>when you saw are making a big too big of

0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:03.799
<v Speaker 1>a big deal this? Are people making a big deal

0:41:03.840 --> 0:41:05.520
<v Speaker 1>of this and maybe just trying to take a shot

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<v Speaker 1>at the mayor? Should we let this go? What's your thoughts?

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<v Speaker 17>Well, my first thought is Cincinnati just has a weird

0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:15.600
<v Speaker 17>history with mayors and like bounced checks and so forth.

0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:17.840
<v Speaker 17>I mean, if you go back to Jerry Spring oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 17>and the prostitute, I mean that's kind of what how

0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:22.640
<v Speaker 17>he became sort of famous.

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<v Speaker 4>So God God rest his soul.

0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:25.799
<v Speaker 17>So I don't know what it is about mayors and

0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:28.960
<v Speaker 17>Cincinnati and bounce checks. But it's it's in the water

0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:31.520
<v Speaker 17>over there, I guess. But I mean, are we making

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<v Speaker 17>too big of a deal about it? I mean the

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<v Speaker 17>short answer is, you know, you know, I don't know

0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:37.799
<v Speaker 17>that anyone's making that big a deal about it. It's

0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:42.120
<v Speaker 17>a very weird circumstance. No one should ever celebrate anybody

0:41:42.200 --> 0:41:45.799
<v Speaker 17>having personal financial issues, if indeed that's what's going here.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not crowing about that.

0:41:47.280 --> 0:41:50.359
<v Speaker 17>I mean, it's if he really is having problems, that's

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<v Speaker 17>that's terrible.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, he lives in a very nice house.

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<v Speaker 17>He lives actually vert near me on a private street,

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<v Speaker 17>and you know, it doesn't make a lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 17>But but I'm concerned about two things here. I guess

0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:06.840
<v Speaker 17>number one is his story about what happened just doesn't

0:42:06.880 --> 0:42:09.359
<v Speaker 17>make any sense. I mean, he's basically saying he had

0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:11.799
<v Speaker 17>an issue with auto pay, and I would think the

0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:13.600
<v Speaker 17>bank is going to say the issue with auto pay

0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:15.600
<v Speaker 17>was that there was no money in the account.

0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 4>For the auto pay.

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:18.560
<v Speaker 17>Anyone who's ever paid a car loan knows that when

0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:21.280
<v Speaker 17>you do auto pay, which I do, you get multiple

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:24.719
<v Speaker 17>emails saying, hey, the money's coming out. The money has

0:42:24.760 --> 0:42:27.919
<v Speaker 17>been taken out, and that before something goes to repossession

0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:30.200
<v Speaker 17>or written notices and all kinds of things. So the

0:42:30.280 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 17>idea that you just might miss a payment or two

0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:34.439
<v Speaker 17>and they come take your car, that's not the way

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:36.719
<v Speaker 17>it works from a legal standpoint in Ohio. So his

0:42:36.760 --> 0:42:39.879
<v Speaker 17>story on its face doesn't make sense and it really

0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:43.480
<v Speaker 17>looks like dissembling. The other issue I have is this

0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:47.080
<v Speaker 17>is when we look at our very recent history at

0:42:47.080 --> 0:42:49.120
<v Speaker 17>city Hall, we had at least two of the council

0:42:49.200 --> 0:42:53.200
<v Speaker 17>members who serve federal prison time, mis Stynard and Jeff

0:42:53.239 --> 0:42:59.480
<v Speaker 17>Past were essentially bribed because of their personal financial situation.

0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:02.640
<v Speaker 17>When the word is out that you need the money,

0:43:03.160 --> 0:43:06.120
<v Speaker 17>the vultures just send. And I think that is that

0:43:06.200 --> 0:43:08.520
<v Speaker 17>is an even bigger problem that we have. No one's

0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:11.400
<v Speaker 17>really in a position to say no. And honestly, you

0:43:11.480 --> 0:43:13.480
<v Speaker 17>have this other kind of issue, which I call this

0:43:13.560 --> 0:43:15.600
<v Speaker 17>part of the soft corruption, which is you have people

0:43:15.640 --> 0:43:19.239
<v Speaker 17>in public office sort of auditioning for roles in the

0:43:19.239 --> 0:43:21.960
<v Speaker 17>private sector and giving favors to people that they hope

0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:24.360
<v Speaker 17>will employ them when they get out. So you know,

0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:27.080
<v Speaker 17>it's a weird thing there. I mean, I mean city

0:43:27.200 --> 0:43:30.719
<v Speaker 17>you know, the Mayor's job. It pays relatively wealthy. It

0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:33.200
<v Speaker 17>pays one hundred eighteen thousand dollars, but it's a full

0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:35.359
<v Speaker 17>time job. You're not allowed to have any other kind

0:43:35.360 --> 0:43:39.719
<v Speaker 17>of income outside that. You are rubbing shoulders of very

0:43:39.760 --> 0:43:43.399
<v Speaker 17>wealthy people and expected to, I guess, dress a certain way,

0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:46.080
<v Speaker 17>and drive a certain kind of car, and maintain a

0:43:46.120 --> 0:43:49.400
<v Speaker 17>certain appearance and lifestyle. And it's probably in excess of

0:43:49.400 --> 0:43:53.960
<v Speaker 17>what one hundred eighteen thousand dollars will buy you. So

0:43:54.040 --> 0:43:56.759
<v Speaker 17>I have some sympothy from that standpoint, I suppose, But

0:43:57.680 --> 0:44:00.480
<v Speaker 17>you know, all in other people may to work, and

0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:02.040
<v Speaker 17>he's going to have to find a way to make

0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:04.440
<v Speaker 17>it work. And it's as Jason as you said, it's

0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:06.440
<v Speaker 17>just a terrible look for the for the city. And

0:44:06.480 --> 0:44:09.400
<v Speaker 17>it does make you wonder whether, uh, there's the basic

0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:12.120
<v Speaker 17>financial literacy down here to make the kinds of decisions

0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:12.879
<v Speaker 17>that need to be made.

0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Steve Gooden joins us, your local attorney, former Cincinnai

0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:21.040
<v Speaker 2>City council member. And Steve, when you were on city

0:44:21.120 --> 0:44:26.080
<v Speaker 2>council did and again you're in you're in that elected office.

0:44:26.520 --> 0:44:29.759
<v Speaker 2>Did you feel a sense of I need to I

0:44:29.840 --> 0:44:33.880
<v Speaker 2>need to really really make extra sure Uh you know,

0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:36.520
<v Speaker 2>I know you're already you know, a very responsible guy

0:44:36.560 --> 0:44:39.560
<v Speaker 2>and successful guy from your military career and your legal

0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:43.080
<v Speaker 2>career and your political career. But like, was there did

0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:46.640
<v Speaker 2>you go through all of your own personal business and say,

0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:48.760
<v Speaker 2>all right, I really need to make sure I'm extra

0:44:48.840 --> 0:44:52.200
<v Speaker 2>buttoned up on all of you know, my bills and everything.

0:44:52.280 --> 0:44:56.040
<v Speaker 2>Did did you feel more of a sense of I've

0:44:56.040 --> 0:44:59.879
<v Speaker 2>got to be even extra careful on just those kinds

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<v Speaker 2>of things.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know you do.

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<v Speaker 17>And I mean, and it's and it's hard, and I

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<v Speaker 17>will say, and this is again out and nobody should

0:45:08.600 --> 0:45:12.399
<v Speaker 17>ever belly acher complain about being in public office. I mean,

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<v Speaker 17>it's an absolute honor straight through. But you know, but

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<v Speaker 17>I will say that there is a part of it

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<v Speaker 17>in the way we do things at the municipal level,

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<v Speaker 17>not just in Cincinnati, but throughout the big cities in

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<v Speaker 17>Ohio where you know, it is more financially challenging than

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<v Speaker 17>I think. I say, you're on city council, you get

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<v Speaker 17>a I think it's roughly sixty four thousand dollars a year,

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<v Speaker 17>but it doesign need to be a part time job,

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<v Speaker 17>and you can still do other work. And if you're

0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:39.640
<v Speaker 17>a lawyer, you can still do other work. But then

0:45:39.680 --> 0:45:42.360
<v Speaker 17>suddenly you realize that the cause of your connection to

0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:45.680
<v Speaker 17>the city, that you have so many conflicts and conflicts of.

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<v Speaker 4>Interest that you you you're you're not only you.

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<v Speaker 17>But your law firm sometimes or in my case, had

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<v Speaker 17>to pass on business because your the zoning cases and

0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:56.000
<v Speaker 17>things of that nature, because they would touch the city

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<v Speaker 17>in some way.

0:45:56.920 --> 0:45:57.879
<v Speaker 4>And then you end up.

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<v Speaker 17>With your you know, your partners and colleagues said it

0:46:00.440 --> 0:46:03.880
<v Speaker 17>to you, because everyone's losing money and losing income on

0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:07.120
<v Speaker 17>these things. So it's a bigger sacrifice than it might seem,

0:46:07.239 --> 0:46:09.920
<v Speaker 17>particularly you know, if you're used to making more than

0:46:09.920 --> 0:46:12.120
<v Speaker 17>sixty thousand dollars a year and they're living on that,

0:46:12.600 --> 0:46:15.799
<v Speaker 17>so you really do have to be careful and you can.

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<v Speaker 17>You know, there could be more of a sacrifice to

0:46:17.840 --> 0:46:19.600
<v Speaker 17>it than it might seem. That's what happened to you

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<v Speaker 17>have Pastor. He lost his private sector job due to

0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:25.160
<v Speaker 17>a conflict at the city and wasn't able to find

0:46:25.160 --> 0:46:27.160
<v Speaker 17>another one, and he had a house with four kids

0:46:27.200 --> 0:46:29.919
<v Speaker 17>and couldn't make it work for sixty some thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 17>or at least that's what I believe he told the

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<v Speaker 17>court at his.

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<v Speaker 1>Plea, Steve, you make some great points here, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're if you're af tab and again not saying

0:46:39.280 --> 0:46:41.960
<v Speaker 1>he would do this, but you know, during the course

0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:44.640
<v Speaker 1>of your days, your weeks, your months on the job,

0:46:44.680 --> 0:46:48.480
<v Speaker 1>you're rubbing shoulders with Bob Cassolini and one of the lenders,

0:46:48.600 --> 0:46:51.920
<v Speaker 1>and you know, having lunch with John Barrett, and you're

0:46:51.960 --> 0:46:54.320
<v Speaker 1>looking around like, God, these guys are living a certain

0:46:54.360 --> 0:46:57.959
<v Speaker 1>way and I'm not there, but I you know, there's

0:46:58.040 --> 0:47:02.280
<v Speaker 1>everybody has that pressure to keep up with the owns is. Again,

0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:05.799
<v Speaker 1>everyone faces that to some degree, but when you're in

0:47:05.880 --> 0:47:10.160
<v Speaker 1>public office, it's even more of a potentially compromising situation.

0:47:10.320 --> 0:47:12.279
<v Speaker 1>If you would act on those things and try to

0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:15.799
<v Speaker 1>live above your means and and do things where you

0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:18.480
<v Speaker 1>might be tempted to, you're gonna have more people coming

0:47:18.560 --> 0:47:20.520
<v Speaker 1>up to you to tempt you with things than the

0:47:20.600 --> 0:47:21.680
<v Speaker 1>average person would be.

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<v Speaker 17>No, that's exactly right. I mean, you know, you're you're

0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:28.120
<v Speaker 17>in a you're often in a you know, you're you're

0:47:28.120 --> 0:47:30.480
<v Speaker 17>in a time X job, rubbing shoulders.

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<v Speaker 4>In a role X world. You know, so it's uh,

0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:33.560
<v Speaker 4>you know, it's.

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<v Speaker 17>A very it's a it's a very different sort of thing.

0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:38.799
<v Speaker 17>And and you know, and and you know, we do

0:47:38.920 --> 0:47:42.000
<v Speaker 17>regard our mayors uh as sort of being you know,

0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:44.719
<v Speaker 17>you know, the head of the city in a lot

0:47:44.719 --> 0:47:47.920
<v Speaker 17>of ways, and uh And the pressure to look and

0:47:48.040 --> 0:47:50.560
<v Speaker 17>dress and act a certain way. And you know, I say,

0:47:50.640 --> 0:47:53.120
<v Speaker 17>drive a certain kind of car and go out to

0:47:53.120 --> 0:47:56.040
<v Speaker 17>certain places is pretty considerable there too. And there are

0:47:56.160 --> 0:47:59.640
<v Speaker 17>limits as to what you can use your campaign dollars

0:47:59.640 --> 0:48:02.280
<v Speaker 17>on these day. So so the you know, the pressure

0:48:02.320 --> 0:48:06.279
<v Speaker 17>is pretty extraordinary. And I would imagine and again I

0:48:06.280 --> 0:48:08.200
<v Speaker 17>don't know what the circumstances are here.

0:48:08.239 --> 0:48:08.719
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

0:48:08.840 --> 0:48:11.680
<v Speaker 17>I cannot speculate as to his true of the mayor's

0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:14.839
<v Speaker 17>true personal finances, but he would not be the first

0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:19.160
<v Speaker 17>public official to get himself into trouble, either financially or ethically,

0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:23.279
<v Speaker 17>trying to chase this image of prosperity that you know

0:48:23.320 --> 0:48:25.800
<v Speaker 17>that you sort of feel a peer pressure to present.

0:48:26.600 --> 0:48:30.040
<v Speaker 2>Steve sid Kevin Aldridge wrote a nice piece about this

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:33.480
<v Speaker 2>in the Inquire Since any dot Com. I'm basically just saying,

0:48:33.560 --> 0:48:37.719
<v Speaker 2>like this just his spin and like, you know, kind

0:48:37.719 --> 0:48:39.120
<v Speaker 2>of like not buying the spin.

0:48:39.239 --> 0:48:40.759
<v Speaker 1>Here is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Your read on this is that you know the AFT

0:48:44.560 --> 0:48:48.520
<v Speaker 2>tab is not being is forward about or he's being

0:48:48.600 --> 0:48:50.120
<v Speaker 2>he's too concerned.

0:48:49.640 --> 0:48:50.640
<v Speaker 1>About being.

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<v Speaker 2>Open and transparent about this out of embarrassment even is

0:48:55.440 --> 0:48:57.920
<v Speaker 2>there is there an element of embarrassment here for him?

0:48:57.960 --> 0:49:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Do you think that is why he's just saying, like, hey,

0:49:01.920 --> 0:49:04.000
<v Speaker 2>it was this carelessness because you're right, like you know

0:49:04.400 --> 0:49:06.719
<v Speaker 2>everything I've read and you said it earlier, like you know,

0:49:06.800 --> 0:49:10.200
<v Speaker 2>you this is not a get you get a call, Hey,

0:49:10.480 --> 0:49:12.560
<v Speaker 2>we're coming to repossess your car here in a couple

0:49:12.520 --> 0:49:14.640
<v Speaker 2>of hours. I mean, this is a months long, weeks

0:49:14.680 --> 0:49:18.240
<v Speaker 2>long thing where you're getting letters and emails and yeah calls,

0:49:18.280 --> 0:49:22.000
<v Speaker 2>and you just think ultimately he's embarrassed by it and

0:49:22.000 --> 0:49:24.480
<v Speaker 2>doesn't want to just sort of come out and say.

0:49:24.280 --> 0:49:28.160
<v Speaker 17>That, well, you know, I mean my mother used to

0:49:28.239 --> 0:49:30.480
<v Speaker 17>say to me one time I got in trouble for

0:49:30.560 --> 0:49:32.480
<v Speaker 17>something in high school, and she just said, look, going

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<v Speaker 17>forward in the future, just say the answer all questions

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<v Speaker 17>with yes, no.

0:49:36.160 --> 0:49:37.359
<v Speaker 4>Or none of my business.

0:49:37.640 --> 0:49:40.000
<v Speaker 17>And he should have probably said none of my business

0:49:40.040 --> 0:49:42.799
<v Speaker 17>on this one, yeah, or none of your business. I

0:49:42.800 --> 0:49:46.360
<v Speaker 17>should say, you know, to to the public because its story.

0:49:46.600 --> 0:49:49.200
<v Speaker 17>You know, his answer really doesn't make any kind of sense.

0:49:49.560 --> 0:49:51.919
<v Speaker 17>There's a quote issue with the auto pay and again

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<v Speaker 17>I based this.

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<v Speaker 4>I used to the.

0:49:53.680 --> 0:49:56.160
<v Speaker 17>Law firm where I used to work did a significant

0:49:56.160 --> 0:49:59.040
<v Speaker 17>amount all we call creditors rights litigation or actually, you know,

0:49:59.120 --> 0:50:00.520
<v Speaker 17>chasing people from bad.

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<v Speaker 4>Loans, including bad car loans. I know the process.

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<v Speaker 17>There are many, many, many notices that you receive before

0:50:07.520 --> 0:50:10.560
<v Speaker 17>it gets to that state. And again, I'm someone right

0:50:10.600 --> 0:50:13.640
<v Speaker 17>now who is paying a car payment every month on

0:50:13.719 --> 0:50:16.759
<v Speaker 17>auto pay. I get an email a couple of days

0:50:16.760 --> 0:50:19.359
<v Speaker 17>before the payment is to come out, which is basically like, hey,

0:50:19.400 --> 0:50:21.520
<v Speaker 17>make sure there's enough money in there, and then I

0:50:21.520 --> 0:50:23.880
<v Speaker 17>get a receipt once the money comes out. Again, so

0:50:23.960 --> 0:50:26.399
<v Speaker 17>you get two emails every month. And I would think

0:50:26.400 --> 0:50:28.040
<v Speaker 17>most people get it this way. I'm sure you could

0:50:28.040 --> 0:50:29.960
<v Speaker 17>set it up for text or whatever. It's just the

0:50:30.000 --> 0:50:34.000
<v Speaker 17>way we do business now as individuals. So the idea

0:50:34.040 --> 0:50:37.400
<v Speaker 17>that you could fall multiple payments behind not notice it,

0:50:37.880 --> 0:50:40.759
<v Speaker 17>miss all the notices, miss the written notices, I mean

0:50:40.800 --> 0:50:42.839
<v Speaker 17>none of that really makes a lot of sense. And

0:50:42.880 --> 0:50:46.080
<v Speaker 17>again you know the answer for him, should you know me? Well,

0:50:46.200 --> 0:50:48.520
<v Speaker 17>then either like look I'm having some issues or I

0:50:49.160 --> 0:50:51.759
<v Speaker 17>mess this up, or really it's a private affair, I'll

0:50:51.800 --> 0:50:52.239
<v Speaker 17>deal with it.

0:50:52.280 --> 0:50:54.439
<v Speaker 4>I think people would have accepted.

0:50:53.960 --> 0:50:58.279
<v Speaker 17>That better than this sort of you know, clearly sort

0:50:58.280 --> 0:51:01.160
<v Speaker 17>of you know, strangely worded state that really just doesn't

0:51:01.160 --> 0:51:04.479
<v Speaker 17>comfort with anybody's in a regular experience as a human

0:51:04.520 --> 0:51:06.200
<v Speaker 17>being and buying a car these days.

0:51:06.480 --> 0:51:10.879
<v Speaker 1>Well, moving forward, Steve, my answers to any question, yes, no,

0:51:11.280 --> 0:51:13.440
<v Speaker 1>or none of your damn business. That was sound advice.

0:51:13.680 --> 0:51:14.640
<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate that.

0:51:14.800 --> 0:51:18.080
<v Speaker 17>Love that there might have there might have been a

0:51:18.120 --> 0:51:21.279
<v Speaker 17>girl involved in that, say, nineteen ninety seven, it was

0:51:21.920 --> 0:51:23.960
<v Speaker 17>and it was just kind of like she was just like,

0:51:24.000 --> 0:51:25.480
<v Speaker 17>maybe there's some stuff I don't want to know.

0:51:25.480 --> 0:51:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Steve exactly. Well, Steve, this is a great insight, man,

0:51:29.680 --> 0:51:31.600
<v Speaker 1>I really really appreciate it. Thank you so much.

0:51:33.080 --> 0:51:33.759
<v Speaker 4>Hey, take care.

0:51:33.920 --> 0:51:37.680
<v Speaker 3>Thanks Safety local turning, Steve Gooden joining us.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he makes a great point, and that's you know,

0:51:40.480 --> 0:51:43.920
<v Speaker 1>I've always said that, you know, if you're going to

0:51:44.000 --> 0:51:48.480
<v Speaker 1>run for public office, office, any public office, yep, you

0:51:48.960 --> 0:51:51.680
<v Speaker 1>need to either have all the money or none of

0:51:51.680 --> 0:51:54.000
<v Speaker 1>the money. In other words, you need to have an

0:51:54.040 --> 0:51:56.000
<v Speaker 1>exorbitant amount of money where you don't need to worry

0:51:56.000 --> 0:51:59.040
<v Speaker 1>about making any more or what your financist is, or

0:51:59.400 --> 0:52:02.760
<v Speaker 1>have nothing where you don't miss anything, you're not living

0:52:02.800 --> 0:52:05.319
<v Speaker 1>a certain lifestyle. It's it's the people that where the

0:52:05.360 --> 0:52:07.880
<v Speaker 1>majority of people are where they're they got a decent

0:52:07.920 --> 0:52:10.359
<v Speaker 1>amount of living they're going, but it's not enough where

0:52:10.360 --> 0:52:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I can just quit my job and all of a

0:52:12.560 --> 0:52:15.160
<v Speaker 1>sudden if you're going you take say a Cincinnati City

0:52:15.200 --> 0:52:17.520
<v Speaker 1>council job and it pays fifty which is.

0:52:17.520 --> 0:52:20.080
<v Speaker 3>Okay, but you know, depending on your situation. You got

0:52:20.120 --> 0:52:22.279
<v Speaker 3>four kids at home, you know, fifty is a little

0:52:22.280 --> 0:52:23.319
<v Speaker 3>a little harder.

0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:26.280
<v Speaker 1>So you gotta you know, I mean, it is interesting

0:52:26.320 --> 0:52:28.520
<v Speaker 1>to see how Yeah, and that's why I think a

0:52:28.520 --> 0:52:30.319
<v Speaker 1>lot of people don't choose to go into it, because

0:52:30.320 --> 0:52:33.879
<v Speaker 1>they're like, well, I can't retire, but I'm also I'm

0:52:33.920 --> 0:52:36.480
<v Speaker 1>living at a certain status level that I need to maintain,

0:52:37.440 --> 0:52:39.440
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's where these folks find themselves.

0:52:39.480 --> 0:52:42.440
<v Speaker 2>That was a great e a great explanation from Steve

0:52:42.480 --> 0:52:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Gooden too, Like you know that the mayor you cannot

0:52:44.760 --> 0:52:47.680
<v Speaker 2>have another job outside of that, right, but on council

0:52:47.760 --> 0:52:51.160
<v Speaker 2>you can. That was interesting how he explained balancing you know,

0:52:51.280 --> 0:52:54.120
<v Speaker 2>your sixty thousand dollars year council job with trying to

0:52:54.120 --> 0:52:56.799
<v Speaker 2>do other work outside of that, depending on what that is.

0:52:57.840 --> 0:53:00.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, well, I have to, you know, super duper

0:53:00.719 --> 0:53:02.760
<v Speaker 2>careful with to sell the conflict of interests.

0:53:02.760 --> 0:53:04.800
<v Speaker 1>And well that's what he said. Yeah, you can technically

0:53:04.840 --> 0:53:08.560
<v Speaker 1>have a job, but most you can't because there's always some.

0:53:08.320 --> 0:53:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Sort of unless you at minards or something. And you

0:53:11.960 --> 0:53:15.960
<v Speaker 2>know that's one other thing too, I'd add real quick too.

0:53:16.680 --> 0:53:19.440
<v Speaker 2>I think it probably is an interesting position for aft have.

0:53:19.560 --> 0:53:22.360
<v Speaker 2>Pure of all, this guy was very successful lawyer. He

0:53:22.480 --> 0:53:25.560
<v Speaker 2>was at Procter and Gamble for many years. He's been

0:53:25.600 --> 0:53:30.120
<v Speaker 2>in uh elected office now for a while. The clerk

0:53:30.160 --> 0:53:32.000
<v Speaker 2>of courts. I don't know what the clerk of courts

0:53:32.080 --> 0:53:35.080
<v Speaker 2>makes or whatever, but you know, I'm sure there's a

0:53:35.160 --> 0:53:37.600
<v Speaker 2>thought of him, like, hey, there was a lifestyle that

0:53:37.640 --> 0:53:40.880
<v Speaker 2>he was once at. And again that's his personal business.

0:53:42.520 --> 0:53:45.600
<v Speaker 2>But you know this isn't Procter and Gamble lawyer kind

0:53:45.640 --> 0:53:46.479
<v Speaker 2>of money, right, And.

0:53:46.400 --> 0:53:48.879
<v Speaker 1>You still got the same friends you were rolling around with,

0:53:48.920 --> 0:53:51.600
<v Speaker 1>and now you got even you're you're moving around with

0:53:51.680 --> 0:53:54.640
<v Speaker 1>the big movers and shakers of the town who are

0:53:55.200 --> 0:53:58.120
<v Speaker 1>millionaire billionaire types and you're kind of feeling need to

0:53:58.680 --> 0:54:01.759
<v Speaker 1>keep up. Very interesting, but we'll keep our sights on

0:54:01.800 --> 0:54:04.000
<v Speaker 1>that what happens moving forward, all right, let's check some

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<v Speaker 1>trafficking weather.

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<v Speaker 5>on to seventy five eastbound eleven in Row. The crash

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<v Speaker 5>blocked on seventy five southbound after Paddock with a crash

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<v Speaker 5>seventy five southbound after turf Way in Kentuck. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>hit It.

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<v Speaker 2>Defensive end Trey Hendridson is set to undergo season ending surgery.

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<v Speaker 2>Undergo quote muscle core surgery, sorry, core muscle surgery. According

0:56:17.640 --> 0:56:22.920
<v Speaker 2>to ESPN's Adam Schefter, Henderson has been out since he

0:56:23.040 --> 0:56:27.600
<v Speaker 2>aggravated the injury in Week eight against the Jets. He

0:56:27.840 --> 0:56:31.399
<v Speaker 2>originally got hurt in that Week six game at Green Bay.

0:56:34.080 --> 0:56:35.719
<v Speaker 2>He had a he had a I guess it's a

0:56:35.800 --> 0:56:41.840
<v Speaker 2>hip injury. So so he's getting surgery. He is getting surgery.

0:56:41.880 --> 0:56:44.759
<v Speaker 2>According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, that would put him out

0:56:44.800 --> 0:56:45.920
<v Speaker 2>six weeks, which.

0:56:46.239 --> 0:56:48.800
<v Speaker 3>Is the rest of the Sea this season. Okay, but

0:56:49.000 --> 0:56:51.279
<v Speaker 3>your thoughts, your comments.

0:56:52.920 --> 0:56:56.719
<v Speaker 2>My thought A is that I legit think he's hurt obviously,

0:56:56.880 --> 0:56:58.960
<v Speaker 2>and I've always thought that. I know some people were

0:56:59.040 --> 0:57:02.080
<v Speaker 2>questioning whether it was just the fact the team wasn't

0:57:02.120 --> 0:57:06.040
<v Speaker 2>playing well, he had that big contract squabble. Was he

0:57:06.120 --> 0:57:08.040
<v Speaker 2>kind of nursing and it was he just sort of

0:57:08.280 --> 0:57:11.600
<v Speaker 2>not nursing it, but like kind of you know, taking

0:57:11.640 --> 0:57:14.320
<v Speaker 2>his good old time to come back right now. I

0:57:14.680 --> 0:57:18.520
<v Speaker 2>think Trey Henderson is a guy who loves to play football,

0:57:18.800 --> 0:57:22.680
<v Speaker 2>and if he's healthy or close to healthy, I think

0:57:22.720 --> 0:57:24.320
<v Speaker 2>he's going to be out there. I think this was

0:57:24.360 --> 0:57:30.520
<v Speaker 2>a legit injury that was keeping him off the field. Now,

0:57:30.560 --> 0:57:33.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think we've seen the last of Trey

0:57:33.360 --> 0:57:37.880
<v Speaker 2>Hendrickson in Cincinnati. I would think this, yeah, miss he

0:57:37.960 --> 0:57:40.520
<v Speaker 2>did that one year, he redid his contract for one

0:57:40.560 --> 0:57:43.560
<v Speaker 2>season and.

0:57:42.360 --> 0:57:43.840
<v Speaker 3>What do you how much do you make this year?

0:57:44.280 --> 0:57:46.760
<v Speaker 2>I'd have to go back and look at that les

0:57:46.760 --> 0:57:49.480
<v Speaker 2>audios off the top of his head, you know, And

0:57:49.560 --> 0:57:51.320
<v Speaker 2>here it is. It's in this story I'm reading since

0:57:51.520 --> 0:57:55.760
<v Speaker 2>dot Com. In August, Henderson received a fourteen million dollar raise,

0:57:55.880 --> 0:57:58.160
<v Speaker 2>bringing his salary for the twenty twenty five season to

0:57:58.240 --> 0:58:00.200
<v Speaker 2>thirty million him.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's just tough. I mean, says a lot of

0:58:02.600 --> 0:58:06.040
<v Speaker 1>money for you know, little very little production. But look,

0:58:06.280 --> 0:58:08.960
<v Speaker 1>that's sway it is in the NFL. I had injuries that,

0:58:10.200 --> 0:58:12.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, someone on the outside could say, oh, well,

0:58:12.480 --> 0:58:14.760
<v Speaker 1>how come he can't play through a torn calf? Well,

0:58:15.440 --> 0:58:17.120
<v Speaker 1>let me tell you, you know, it's so yeah. I

0:58:17.360 --> 0:58:20.760
<v Speaker 1>always hesitate to really get into that. I always did

0:58:20.760 --> 0:58:23.880
<v Speaker 1>think it was weird with Trey how I never felt

0:58:23.920 --> 0:58:28.720
<v Speaker 1>like he was a favorite amongst his teammates. And maybe

0:58:28.720 --> 0:58:31.640
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't matter. There's guys I know that were great

0:58:31.640 --> 0:58:34.840
<v Speaker 1>players that you know, a lot of guys didn't like him,

0:58:34.840 --> 0:58:38.080
<v Speaker 1>but I certainly feel that way. I don't feel like anybody,

0:58:38.120 --> 0:58:41.960
<v Speaker 1>no one ever really came to his defense like or

0:58:41.960 --> 0:58:44.080
<v Speaker 1>no one ever like during the contract if you no

0:58:44.120 --> 0:58:46.720
<v Speaker 1>one was ever like we need to pay trade because

0:58:46.760 --> 0:58:49.040
<v Speaker 1>he's the he's the heart and blood and soul of

0:58:49.080 --> 0:58:52.040
<v Speaker 1>our team. Never felt like that was the case, which

0:58:52.280 --> 0:58:55.120
<v Speaker 1>again isn't right right or wrong. I just think it

0:58:55.200 --> 0:58:57.440
<v Speaker 1>is the fact though I think Trey operated in US

0:58:57.560 --> 0:58:59.720
<v Speaker 1>in kind of a silo. I don't think he was

0:59:01.560 --> 0:59:04.240
<v Speaker 1>overly liked, but I don't think he was disliked either.

0:59:04.280 --> 0:59:06.880
<v Speaker 1>I think it was just like it's all business and

0:59:07.320 --> 0:59:10.080
<v Speaker 1>that guy's a you know, he plays hard and he

0:59:10.200 --> 0:59:11.960
<v Speaker 1>wants to be out there. But I don't think he

0:59:12.000 --> 0:59:14.560
<v Speaker 1>was a guy who was you know, all the guys

0:59:14.600 --> 0:59:16.360
<v Speaker 1>wanted to hang out with him, and all the guys

0:59:16.560 --> 0:59:18.920
<v Speaker 1>really looked to him as a leader. And I certainly

0:59:18.960 --> 0:59:21.920
<v Speaker 1>thought when you know, they named him a team captain

0:59:21.960 --> 0:59:24.760
<v Speaker 1>this year, which I thought was like, he's not really

0:59:24.760 --> 0:59:28.400
<v Speaker 1>a team captain type of guy. And I thought it

0:59:28.440 --> 0:59:31.320
<v Speaker 1>was a bad look when he showed up at what

0:59:31.480 --> 0:59:34.080
<v Speaker 1>the mini camp. I believe it was when he was

0:59:34.080 --> 0:59:37.240
<v Speaker 1>in his contract dispute, and then all the all the

0:59:37.320 --> 0:59:41.160
<v Speaker 1>reporters gathered around and he just blasted the front office

0:59:41.240 --> 0:59:43.320
<v Speaker 1>essentially in the Bengals. I'm like, eh, I don't think

0:59:43.400 --> 0:59:44.880
<v Speaker 1>that's team captain kind of stuff.

0:59:44.920 --> 0:59:45.400
<v Speaker 3>I get it.

0:59:45.800 --> 0:59:48.160
<v Speaker 2>I get it, like you're you're in a dispute. That's

0:59:48.240 --> 0:59:51.880
<v Speaker 2>the business side of this, Okay whatever. I still don't

0:59:51.920 --> 0:59:56.960
<v Speaker 2>think a team captain kind of caliber guy is doing that.

0:59:57.800 --> 0:59:58.280
<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I can get, like, you know, a very calculated criticism

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<v Speaker 2>here and there of things that are going on, as

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<v Speaker 2>long as you're owning it yourself the way Joe Burrow does.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow will if you read.

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<v Speaker 2>Between the lines and some of the things he says,

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<v Speaker 2>he'll criticize the organization, but he lumps himself in with

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<v Speaker 2>that as he's part of, Yes, I've gotta I've got

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<v Speaker 2>I've got to be better, I've got to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is part of you know, it's it's us here,

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<v Speaker 2>It's not them, it's us. And to me, that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>team captain kind of comments. But Trey Hendrickson, I, I

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean, full disclosure. I was in that

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<v Speaker 2>camp where I thought they needed to really get him

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<v Speaker 2>under a multi year contract. But uh, you know, certainly

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<v Speaker 2>there are a lot of others and in our media

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<v Speaker 2>who said, nah, he's getting old, and you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>the production falls off and here he is. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if this has really to do with

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<v Speaker 2>his with age. And you're right. I mean, I'm glad

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<v Speaker 2>you brought that up about injuries, because you always gotta

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<v Speaker 2>be careful about injuries. Like I learned this earlier in

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<v Speaker 2>my career writing career, Like you know, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Tough to.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody has a different threshold for pain and what they're

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<v Speaker 2>going through and like, how how was it for me

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<v Speaker 2>as a as a reporter or whatever to like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>really you gotta be really careful and think really hard

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<v Speaker 2>and talk to the people, talk to a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 2>including the athlete about you know, when you're reporting on injuries,

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<v Speaker 2>you know besides just a generic.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this was the news of Hayes out injury. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>especially for me when it comes to lower bodies slash

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<v Speaker 1>core injuries, because if you if you can't move out there,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been there. When I'm I feel like I'm moving

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<v Speaker 1>at seventy percent of my best against guys that are

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<v Speaker 1>the top in the world, and that's a that's a

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<v Speaker 1>that's a way to get really hurt. Now, upper body stuff, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you know certain positions, I think you should try to

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<v Speaker 1>suck it up and play if you can, But especially

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<v Speaker 1>lower body stuff, it's hard to really gauge exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>they're going through.

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<v Speaker 2>That reminds me though, of a Hunter Green is a

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<v Speaker 2>guy who's been questioned for his nursing of injury, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>extending what what are determined like medically determined to be

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<v Speaker 2>minor injuries, Like he had a minor grade groin strain

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<v Speaker 2>uh in this season and he stretched that thing out

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<v Speaker 2>of what was he out?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember. He was out a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, he got a second opinion, and the

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<v Speaker 2>second opinion said the same thing as the first opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's a groin, Like, it's not an elbow, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not a shoulder, it's like, it's a groin. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>minor injury. And it's like yeah, And then came in

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<v Speaker 2>he's coming because that's not the first time that that's happened.

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<v Speaker 2>He's come into question for that, and and again, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's one athlete and I'm not you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>think you have to always look at every guy or

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<v Speaker 2>woman that you're covering, and it comes the injuries, is

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<v Speaker 2>you know, their own their own saying and their own deal,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you know, oh well that well, that injury for

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<v Speaker 2>that guy, he kept him out, you know, two months.

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<v Speaker 2>But that other guy had that same injury, so to speak,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was only out for a week.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that can be different. Yes, I do think. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's where Hunger Green may follow though, is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>waiting until he is one hundred percent. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>as an athlete and a pro athlete, you're getting paid money,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta I always say, you know, you under certain circumstances,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't be afraid to take a needle. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>go out there and play.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's been questioning on the on the inside of

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<v Speaker 2>the Reds organization. I think that's exactly. It's, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the grind of a you know, six seven month season

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<v Speaker 2>with spring training and all that, Like you're never going

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<v Speaker 2>to be really one hundred percent, right, I mean, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think that is his life.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to, I want to, I want to be.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent, but I'm like, yeah, well I gotta

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<v Speaker 2>play through some pain and again, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>your threshold for pain is because it's not my body man,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like I guess the argument would be, and

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<v Speaker 2>until the Reds, I would him accountable for that?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if they're you know, if he if he's

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<v Speaker 1>probably sitting there saying, well, the Reds you know, at

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<v Speaker 1>least haven't really seemed to threaten to trade me or

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of me if I don't tough en up,

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<v Speaker 1>so just keep doing it. You know, if people respond

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<v Speaker 1>to incentives, and if he hasn't been incentivised to hurt

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<v Speaker 1>his ass up and get healthy.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, why was he come back? Well that's

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<v Speaker 3>a great that's a great point.

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<v Speaker 4>Rock.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know if it's that, but something to

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<v Speaker 1>every Monday and Lap. Let's start with this. The news

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<v Speaker 1>earlier around three o'clock came out that Jermaine Burton had

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<v Speaker 1>been released. What can you tell us about the Jermaine

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<v Speaker 1>Burton tenure here with the Cincinnati Bengals.

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<v Speaker 11>It was interesting, I guess to say the last belt

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<v Speaker 11>surprise waves.

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<v Speaker 4>Really it's it's it's a shame you have a.

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<v Speaker 1>Lap a lap. We've got a bad connection. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>ask you to hang up and we'll try you back

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<v Speaker 1>here again. If that's okay, we'll get to get a

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<v Speaker 1>better signal here. Sometimes you gotta jostle it around you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's shake your phone. It's like a Nintendo flow in

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom of it. Everybody did that and it worked.

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<v Speaker 1>It worked. They swear it never works. But I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that we have Dave lapping back. Dave, can you hear us?

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<v Speaker 4>I can hear you.

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<v Speaker 11>Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, you sound crystal clear as if you're

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<v Speaker 1>sitting here next to the Yeah. So uh so, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so we were. I was asking about Jermaine Burt and

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<v Speaker 1>he was really today wasn't active for any game this year.

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<v Speaker 1>It just seemed like a bad situation.

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<v Speaker 3>What happened with that lap.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, a bad situation is a good way to describe it.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean, here's a guy that was drafted in the

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<v Speaker 11>third round. You know, played in the SEC and the

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<v Speaker 11>high level of football. Obviously, he's got all the physical

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<v Speaker 11>gifts that you want. I mean, you know, he's a

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<v Speaker 11>good size guy. Not a huge receiver, but you know

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<v Speaker 11>good size receiver size, speed ratio is strong, he's got strength,

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<v Speaker 11>he's got hands, can you know use catch the football

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<v Speaker 11>effortlessly and smoothly, puts it away, keeps it out of

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<v Speaker 11>harm's way. He can not only straight line speed, but

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<v Speaker 11>also put us foot in the ground and separate from

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<v Speaker 11>my defendercy he can do everything. The problem is he's

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<v Speaker 11>got nothing upstairs for the game. I mean, it's just

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<v Speaker 11>it's too big for him. And as Paul Brown used

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<v Speaker 11>to say, you know, if the game's too big for you,

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<v Speaker 11>you're not gonna be around very long. And and he's

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<v Speaker 11>not around anymore, and lessons be learned, for sure. Unfortunate

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<v Speaker 11>because here's a guy that everybody thought would maybe have

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<v Speaker 11>a bright future. But you know, you have to have

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<v Speaker 11>football IQ and IQ you know, general general education IQ

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<v Speaker 11>as well in order to make it work.

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<v Speaker 1>And it just seemed lap that they were assuming times.

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<v Speaker 1>I point to the time when t Higgins is out

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<v Speaker 1>hurt the first time and it's like, here's his time, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you finally get your opportunity the Bengals need a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that can stretch the defense. This is your time. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you had been studying the playbook and working on

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<v Speaker 1>your routes and understanding the different space and the things

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<v Speaker 1>you need to do, the different releases you need to take,

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<v Speaker 1>he could have taken that and grabbed it. But it

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<v Speaker 1>never seemed like he was a guy right that wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to do the mental things that it took to be

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<v Speaker 1>a great pro player in the pros that you can't

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<v Speaker 1>just be a great athlete, you must also you know,

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<v Speaker 1>use your head and learn how to know the He

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<v Speaker 1>never wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 11>That again exactly. I mean, he never made any sacrifices,

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<v Speaker 11>you know, he never he never. He never did anything

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<v Speaker 11>you know that was going to maybe be a little

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<v Speaker 11>bit harder, something he didn't necessarily really want to do,

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<v Speaker 11>but was going to make him a great player. Everything

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<v Speaker 11>came naturally to him physically, but mentally, you know, extra

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<v Speaker 11>time with the coaches, extra study time, knows in the playbook,

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<v Speaker 11>knows in the game plan, making sure that you knew,

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<v Speaker 11>like you're talking about every nuance of everything that you're

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<v Speaker 11>supposed to do. If you have to adjust your route,

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<v Speaker 11>why and what route are you adjusting to be on

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<v Speaker 11>the same page. You know, Joe Burrow has tremendous chemistry

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<v Speaker 11>with Jamar Chase and t Higgins, and it's built on

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<v Speaker 11>trust and respect, and he had neither. For what Burton

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<v Speaker 11>was putting out on the football field. I mean it

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<v Speaker 11>was a third down situation. He was the third receiver

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<v Speaker 11>and they rolled coverage and doubled both of his main guys.

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<v Speaker 11>I don't think he felt real comfortable about throwing the

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<v Speaker 11>foot faut Burton and that's that's that's too bad, man,

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<v Speaker 11>That's that's very sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she couldn't have said any better, Lap, because I

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think Zach Taylor is as good of

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<v Speaker 2>a culture coach as there is in all of football.

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<v Speaker 2>And if that guy can't figure it out here and

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<v Speaker 2>turn around here, I'm not sure we're going to see

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<v Speaker 2>that guy in an NFL uniform.

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<v Speaker 11>Ever, again, how would he have done with Belichick.

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<v Speaker 1>Switching gears?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? Going down the list of news today, Trey Hendrickson,

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<v Speaker 2>this comes out from ESPNU that he's gonna have surgery here,

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<v Speaker 2>and gosh, Lap, you know, I mean, all the struggles

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<v Speaker 2>of the defense this season and you know, not really

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<v Speaker 2>having a fully healthy Trey Hendrickson. It may never I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this may be it. We may never see him again

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<v Speaker 2>in the Bengals uniform as he was in the last

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<v Speaker 2>year of his contract. And what do you what do

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<v Speaker 2>you what do you think about you know, Trey Hendrickson.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it is it time to kind of remember, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, look back on his career here and think, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>these are the good this was, this was this was

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<v Speaker 2>overall really a good thing.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, that's the thing. I you know, the way it's

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<v Speaker 11>ending is unfortunate because you know, here's a guy fifteen

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<v Speaker 11>sax season, seventeen and a half sax season, you know,

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<v Speaker 11>and then all kinds of quarterback pressures and hits to

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<v Speaker 11>go along with it. Yeah, he was a force. I mean, uh,

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<v Speaker 11>he was a guy that, you know, over a three

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<v Speaker 11>to five year span, was as good as anybody putting

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<v Speaker 11>pressure off the blind side of a right handed quarterback.

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<v Speaker 11>And it's it's unfortunate that that it is ending this

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<v Speaker 11>way because yeah, he's having surgery. In my understanding is

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<v Speaker 11>it's six weeks for recovery. So the season's over unless

1:12:46.720 --> 1:12:49.280
<v Speaker 11>the Bengals are in the playoffs. And if they are

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<v Speaker 11>in the playoffs, I mean a lot of rust and

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<v Speaker 11>dustin knock off there and be a significant contributor to

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<v Speaker 11>the playoff cause. So I think you're right. I think

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<v Speaker 11>we're we've seen the last of Trey Henderson here in

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<v Speaker 11>the Cincinnati Bengals uniform.

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<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately, Dave I've said, and I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if there's an argument, again said, I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's you know, one of the greatest, if not

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest free agent signing the Bengals have ever had

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of like a strict free agent signed. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember when, I remember where I was when the news broke,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, man.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's I don't I don't really recall his name.

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<v Speaker 1>I looked him up, like, Okay, he had a nice

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<v Speaker 1>year there, but he was opposite uh what's his name?

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know how good he's gonna be, But man,

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<v Speaker 1>he turned in some absolutely fantastic seasons right in the

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<v Speaker 1>heart of some of those great Bengals teams.

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<v Speaker 11>Really, no no doubt about it. I mean, this guy

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<v Speaker 11>was a past rush demon. I mean he was about

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<v Speaker 11>as good as there was in the National Football League,

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<v Speaker 11>and the offensive coordinators lost sleep at night trying to

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<v Speaker 11>figure out ways to uh contain him, slow him down,

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<v Speaker 11>don't let him be a factor to his I mean

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<v Speaker 11>he could cause turnovers, you know, knocking the ball free,

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<v Speaker 11>making the quarterback throw the ball before he wants to

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<v Speaker 11>and therefore thrown into coverage, not putting the ball where

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<v Speaker 11>an open target is. I mean, he was an issue,

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<v Speaker 11>and he made his teammates better, you know, because now

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<v Speaker 11>everybody else is one on one. You know, everybody else

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<v Speaker 11>has a chance, to legitimate chance to If I can

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<v Speaker 11>get past this guy, I put it on that outside

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<v Speaker 11>shoulder with a strong move, I can I can do

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<v Speaker 11>some damage to the quarterback. So yeah, Trey Henderson was

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<v Speaker 11>was definitely a tremendous player.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about the positives of yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>Lap you were there in the snow, you and Dan

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<v Speaker 2>calling it, And how awesome was that first half of

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Burrow versus Josh Allen and watching those two just

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<v Speaker 2>incredible talents go back and forth and throw balls that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, only maybe no other quarterbacks in all the

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<v Speaker 2>world can can throw.

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<v Speaker 4>It was amazing.

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<v Speaker 11>You know, under those conditions, it was like a snow globe,

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<v Speaker 11>you know, down there and uh are up there in Buffalo,

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<v Speaker 11>and I mean the first three possessions for Joe Burrow touchdown, touchdown, touchdown,

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<v Speaker 11>It's like, whoa, holy crap. I mean, you know that

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<v Speaker 11>that's hard to do and in in great situations, uh,

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<v Speaker 11>in terms of climate control and he he uh, Joe

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<v Speaker 11>is a he's an amazing player. Unfortunately, he had the

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<v Speaker 11>back to back uh snaps interceptions that that probably hasn't

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<v Speaker 11>happened to him at any level in high school, college

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<v Speaker 11>or the National Football League. So that one I think

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<v Speaker 11>is probably gonna, you know, stay with him for a while,

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<v Speaker 11>but he'll rebound. He hasn't w won bad performance. You know,

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<v Speaker 11>keep him down very long. You can't in the National

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<v Speaker 11>Football League. You know, you have to bounce back. You

1:15:48.040 --> 1:15:49.960
<v Speaker 11>have to bounce back quickly. That's just the nature of

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<v Speaker 11>the beast. And every every week you're playing the best

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<v Speaker 11>of the best. So uh yeah that Uh those that

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<v Speaker 11>weather those weather conditions though, I'll tell you one for

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<v Speaker 11>people though that need to need to get a salute.

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<v Speaker 11>The grounds crew. They were working their tails off.

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<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 11>They were out there with those blowers and those brooms

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<v Speaker 11>and they were they were working in shovels. They were

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<v Speaker 11>getting it done, and they made the conditions as tolerable

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<v Speaker 11>as possible, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was what a fun game. Lab If you're

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<v Speaker 1>played in a snow game like that, I know you

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<v Speaker 1>played in the Freezer Bowl, that's a different thing. You're

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<v Speaker 1>playing in just a good old fashioned snow game like that.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, the Freezer Bowl, obviously is the first. Is the

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<v Speaker 11>most inclement weather condition I've.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever played at least.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was nine.

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<v Speaker 11>Below row temperature, fifty nine below windshill.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, Lap like they that happened today,

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<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't play the game. We've gotten softer. They would

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<v Speaker 1>cancel that game.

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<v Speaker 11>I think you know, it came dangerously close. It was

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<v Speaker 11>like literally but then half an hour an hour of

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<v Speaker 11>being canceled, but they decided decided to play it. And

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<v Speaker 11>uh yeah, I was like big hands Johnson, and this

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<v Speaker 11>dude's got muckers on him that are unbelievable and unbelievably strong,

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<v Speaker 11>and I can't let him be grabbing me and yanking

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<v Speaker 11>the material, you pulling cloths off my backside.

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<v Speaker 4>So I did.

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<v Speaker 11>I went sleeveless and uh and and you know, put vaciline.

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<v Speaker 11>They'd allowed us to put vacline or exposed on your face,

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<v Speaker 11>and and so I slapped it all over the slabbing

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<v Speaker 11>it up and down the arms and it was so

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<v Speaker 11>damn coll to coagulated.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that alone was worth your Ring of Honor induction,

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<v Speaker 2>just that alone period period.

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<v Speaker 11>It was crazy, It was It was crazy, nutty experience.

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<v Speaker 1>One awesome all right. At one last thing I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you about. I guess T Higgins is possibly,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, has some you know, concussion type issues or

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on with him. It didn't look like he

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<v Speaker 1>came out of the game, uh in that greyish shape.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, he had gaged again, you know, And you know

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<v Speaker 11>how it is, once you start getting concussions, you can

1:18:05.040 --> 1:18:08.000
<v Speaker 11>be susceptible to him. And he bounced off that turf

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<v Speaker 11>pretty good. But man, that dude made some players, didn't

1:18:10.600 --> 1:18:14.519
<v Speaker 11>he He is a freaking special player. He's got those

1:18:14.600 --> 1:18:18.559
<v Speaker 11>long arms, those big hands. That one handed touchdown catch

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<v Speaker 11>was a thing of beauty. And Joe Burrow has tremendous

1:18:22.120 --> 1:18:24.880
<v Speaker 11>confidence in him. And we're talking about trust and respect,

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<v Speaker 11>and you know, Jamar Chase obviously has it. Dean Burrow

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<v Speaker 11>have been doing it since the LSU days, but so

1:18:29.520 --> 1:18:32.599
<v Speaker 11>does T Higgins and Joe Burrow definitely has a one

1:18:32.640 --> 1:18:35.720
<v Speaker 11>two punch that he feels is as good as any

1:18:35.760 --> 1:18:38.479
<v Speaker 11>in the National Football League, and T Higgins is definitely

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<v Speaker 11>a big part of.

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<v Speaker 20>That, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>Lap And I hope these guys can get it figured

1:18:43.240 --> 1:18:46.960
<v Speaker 2>out on the defensive side for next season, because a

1:18:47.280 --> 1:18:51.679
<v Speaker 2>playoffs with al Joe Burrow and T. Higgins and Jamar

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<v Speaker 2>Chase is a darn shame. I mean, those guys are

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<v Speaker 2>just so fun and then some of the other great

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the offensive line has played really well for

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<v Speaker 2>the most part of all season. For this offense to

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<v Speaker 2>not be in the playoffs, it's you know Rock and

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<v Speaker 2>I were talking earlier, is it's a real shame that

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<v Speaker 2>we won't have the opportunity to potentially you see a

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<v Speaker 2>rematch of those two teams yesterday in the playoffs, because yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's that's that's fun. And the Banker's got

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<v Speaker 2>to figure it out on defense and get back there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah they do.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean, you know, they don't have to be top three,

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<v Speaker 11>top five now, just maybe twelve to fifteen, you know,

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<v Speaker 11>I mean, just don't be giving up thirty five forty

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<v Speaker 11>points a game when your offense is scoring thirty thirty two.

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<v Speaker 11>Don't be giving up thirty five to forty. You know,

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<v Speaker 11>it's that simple. It's like, man, you know, really just

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<v Speaker 11>make a stop every once in a while, you know,

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<v Speaker 11>make them line up and kick a field goal. It's

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<v Speaker 11>just it is. It's totally frustrating. And they still have

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<v Speaker 11>a lot of work to do from personnel standpoint. On

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<v Speaker 11>that side of the football. They have some young players

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<v Speaker 11>that they feel good about, they feel, you know, that

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<v Speaker 11>worth developing and putting some time and energy into. But

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<v Speaker 11>a long way to go before they rest.

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<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>So, with that said, lab and we got about a

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<v Speaker 1>minute with no Tree Henderson likely coming back next year,

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<v Speaker 1>who are if you had to say, we need two guys,

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<v Speaker 1>two guys on this defense to keep it and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of build this thing off of and go into the

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<v Speaker 1>drafts and go into free agency, who would you select

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<v Speaker 1>off this current Bengals defense man.

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<v Speaker 11>That's a good question, you know. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 11>I think Carters got potential at the linebacker position. I

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<v Speaker 11>think he might hopefully, you know, develop into something I'm

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<v Speaker 11>not talking about, you know, per aennial Pro bowler. And

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<v Speaker 11>on the back end, they got some work to do

1:20:50.960 --> 1:20:58.439
<v Speaker 11>there for sure. But yeah, that's the reason they're giving up.

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<v Speaker 4>A number of points.

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<v Speaker 11>You can't you can't rattle off a whole.

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<v Speaker 1>Bunch exactly that. That's I'm in the same boat. Lab.

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<v Speaker 1>I started to say, Oh, well, I don't know about that,

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<v Speaker 1>but hopefully the Bengals figured out here.

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<v Speaker 4>But laugh. We we got to run.

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<v Speaker 3>But appreciate your time. What do you got on the

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<v Speaker 3>show here coming up tonight.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, we've got a whole plethora of reaction after the

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<v Speaker 11>game in the locker room. We've We've got, you know,

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<v Speaker 11>Zach Taylor talking about a couple of different segments with

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<v Speaker 11>Zach Taylor talking about his reaction to what took place

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<v Speaker 11>and what was good and what wasn't in during the

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<v Speaker 11>course of the football game. We also uh talked to

1:21:37.600 --> 1:21:41.080
<v Speaker 11>Miles Murphy and Orlando Brown to get offensive and defensive

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<v Speaker 11>perspective and a whole plusor We've got a lot of

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<v Speaker 11>sound in the post game that hopefully people would enjoy.

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<v Speaker 3>Awesome, Lab, you're the best man, Really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, man, we'll see you. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the only Dave Lebe, I mean, the guy watches

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<v Speaker 1>time come probably Yeah, I think I think he's had

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<v Speaker 1>them trying to look for some positives here, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Williams and Jason. Kind of a confusing thing going

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<v Speaker 1>on here, but a lot of Biden battles amongst the

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<v Speaker 1>titans of broadcasts and television and entertainment. I guess Paramount

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<v Speaker 1>is launching a bid to acquire Warner Brothers. With the

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<v Speaker 1>latest on this from ABC are good friend, Alex Stone,

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<v Speaker 1>Alex what is the latest with these potential huge mergers here?

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<v Speaker 20>Yeah, so this is all to talk of Hollywood right

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<v Speaker 20>now where I am, and President Trump is weighing in.

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<v Speaker 20>Trump met with Netflix CEO Ted Sarandos say in the

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<v Speaker 20>Oval office, he's calling him a great man, says that

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<v Speaker 20>he could be a good deal, but it might be

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<v Speaker 20>too big. But then one of the investment firms now

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<v Speaker 20>representing Paramount and their deal, that one's led by Jared

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<v Speaker 20>Kushner and by the way, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia

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<v Speaker 20>and Cutter as well. So big money, big political influence,

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<v Speaker 20>all the CEOs and getting a lot very close to

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<v Speaker 20>the President, knowing that the power that he could have

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<v Speaker 20>getting through any antitrust concerns here. But basically Netflix offered

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<v Speaker 20>just shy of twenty eight dollars a share, and Warner

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<v Speaker 20>Brothers went for that unanimously. The Warner Brothers board said

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<v Speaker 20>that is the deal. And now Paramount is saying, wait

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<v Speaker 20>a second, we offered thirty dollars and nobody got back

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<v Speaker 20>to us a better deal, and now they're making a

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<v Speaker 20>hostile bid for Warner Brothers.

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<v Speaker 11>Meeting.

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<v Speaker 20>It appears their board today to maybe even go above

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<v Speaker 20>thirty dollars. And today Paramount CEO David Ellison, the Ellison family,

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<v Speaker 20>close to the president as well, was on CNBC saying.

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<v Speaker 21>Well, we're creating by putting these two companies together.

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<v Speaker 4>Is a real.

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<v Speaker 22>Competitor to Netflix, a real competitor to Amazon, a real

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<v Speaker 22>competitor to Disney, not something that is so anti competitive.

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<v Speaker 22>There will be no more competition in Hollywood if this

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<v Speaker 22>deal is allowed to come to pass.

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<v Speaker 20>Now, the Paramount bid would be for Warner Brothers plus

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<v Speaker 20>the things that Netflix does not want, HBO, HBO, Max,

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<v Speaker 20>CNN film production, some of the film production the Netflix

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<v Speaker 20>would not include in their deal. So with Paramount, they

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<v Speaker 20>are spending more, but they're getting more and Warner Brothers,

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<v Speaker 20>they made that unanimous approval of the Netflix offer. Today

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<v Speaker 20>they are telling their shareholders it is not changing that

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<v Speaker 20>they support the Netflix deal and they want to go Netflix.

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<v Speaker 20>A little while ago, Netflix CEO Ted Sarandos, he was

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<v Speaker 20>at the UBS Global Media and Communications Conference in New York,

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<v Speaker 20>sounding like it's a done deal.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not.

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<v Speaker 20>It may end up being Netflix not done yet, but

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<v Speaker 20>he's making it sound like it is.

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<v Speaker 21>We're going into a deal that we're really excited about.

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<v Speaker 21>We think this deal with Warner Brothers is control shareholders.

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<v Speaker 21>I think it's good for consumers who think it's good

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<v Speaker 21>for creators, but I think it's great for the entertainment

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<v Speaker 21>industry as a whole, as we're creating and protecting jobs

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<v Speaker 21>and production and guys.

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<v Speaker 20>There are a ton of anti trust concerns around the

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<v Speaker 20>whole thing of Netflix owned Warner Brothers. Dominic Patton, executive

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<v Speaker 20>editor of the Hollywood side Deadline, He says, it's hard

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<v Speaker 20>to explain what a big deal this is. The amount

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<v Speaker 20>of content, the amount of platforms, the amount of eyeballs

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<v Speaker 20>involved in this is megabox. On a mega level, the

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<v Speaker 20>Netflix offer would be worth eighty three just shy of

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<v Speaker 20>eighty three billion dollars. It would be the biggest sale

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<v Speaker 20>of a Hollywood Studio. Ever, it would combine Netflix with

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<v Speaker 20>the home of DC Studios, with Harry Potter, a lot

1:27:12.640 --> 1:27:15.400
<v Speaker 20>of other properties. Put you take Netflix, the biggest streamer

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<v Speaker 20>in the country and in the world, with the third

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<v Speaker 20>biggest streamer in the country, HBO Max, and you do

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<v Speaker 20>have more than fifty one percent of the streaming audience.

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<v Speaker 20>So today Warner Brothers is telling shareholders do nothing at

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<v Speaker 20>this moment, Well, it gets figured out. They're standing behind Netflix,

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<v Speaker 20>but Paramount says that Warner Brothers should be theirs because

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<v Speaker 20>they have a stronger offer and they would pick up

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<v Speaker 20>more of a Warner Brothers is trying to offload here

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<v Speaker 20>for HBO and CNN and the studio production. So at

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<v Speaker 20>this point it's unclear how it's going to shake out,

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<v Speaker 20>but it is. It is a big deal. Whichever way

1:27:44.520 --> 1:27:48.040
<v Speaker 20>this goes, this is wow.

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<v Speaker 3>This is head spinning, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Hollywood would be would be completely different after this. Can

1:27:57.439 --> 1:27:59.800
<v Speaker 2>you explain the reason why the lay of the land

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<v Speaker 2>is space? Then just spacely would be two major companies.

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<v Speaker 2>It would be Netflix and Paramount, and then that's it.

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<v Speaker 20>I mean no, you would still have Amazon and Disney

1:28:10.560 --> 1:28:13.720
<v Speaker 20>and some others that are out there, but especially if

1:28:13.760 --> 1:28:16.960
<v Speaker 20>it were Netflix and Warner Brothers coming together, that would

1:28:17.040 --> 1:28:21.080
<v Speaker 20>be monumental, and the size of it paramount a little

1:28:21.160 --> 1:28:24.040
<v Speaker 20>less so. But if it's in Netflix and Warner Brothers,

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<v Speaker 20>and really here in the industry world of movie making

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<v Speaker 20>and TV making, you got two different sides. You have

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<v Speaker 20>some who are you rooting this on? Saying the money

1:28:35.080 --> 1:28:39.040
<v Speaker 20>would it would revitalize the TV and movie industry. Things

1:28:39.080 --> 1:28:42.400
<v Speaker 20>would get greenlit that studios aren't paying money for right now.

1:28:42.720 --> 1:28:44.880
<v Speaker 20>They think it would be great. You've got another side

1:28:44.920 --> 1:28:47.479
<v Speaker 20>saying this would be the worst thing ever, that this

1:28:47.600 --> 1:28:51.000
<v Speaker 20>would be a monopoly among all monopolies, where one streaming

1:28:51.120 --> 1:28:53.719
<v Speaker 20>company owns so much of the content and has rights

1:28:53.760 --> 1:28:57.559
<v Speaker 20>to everything and can decide make or break careers by

1:28:57.920 --> 1:28:59.160
<v Speaker 20>saying nope, we don't want to do it, and you

1:28:59.200 --> 1:29:01.880
<v Speaker 20>have nobody else to know to. So I mean, two

1:29:02.200 --> 1:29:07.160
<v Speaker 20>very strong sides here in the Hollywood community, and it's

1:29:07.400 --> 1:29:10.400
<v Speaker 20>it's a fight right now. You've got Paramount of Netflix.

1:29:10.439 --> 1:29:12.800
<v Speaker 20>Netflix is kind of saying it's ours back off, and

1:29:12.880 --> 1:29:14.880
<v Speaker 20>Paramount is saying not yet, that they're going to come

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<v Speaker 20>and take the deal.

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<v Speaker 3>Very interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess is there anything that I mean that Warner

1:29:20.760 --> 1:29:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Brothers does particularly well. That makes them such a you

1:29:25.320 --> 1:29:27.120
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Are they great at this one

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<v Speaker 1>thing where the others are or is it just the same.

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<v Speaker 20>Well, I mean they've got a lot of content, and

1:29:33.360 --> 1:29:35.160
<v Speaker 20>the content is king and all of this. You think

1:29:35.200 --> 1:29:36.800
<v Speaker 20>of when Disney, we always have to say the parent

1:29:36.840 --> 1:29:39.520
<v Speaker 20>company of the ABC is when they have bought properties

1:29:39.680 --> 1:29:42.240
<v Speaker 20>like Marvel and others. They're going for the content and

1:29:43.720 --> 1:29:46.080
<v Speaker 20>you Pixar all of that. They're going for the content

1:29:46.120 --> 1:29:48.400
<v Speaker 20>and some of the technology as well, but really what

1:29:48.520 --> 1:29:51.360
<v Speaker 20>they can put on their services. That's why Netflix doesn't

1:29:51.439 --> 1:29:54.280
<v Speaker 20>want HBO Max. They don't want the platform. They want

1:29:54.360 --> 1:29:57.880
<v Speaker 20>the rights to what Warner Brothers has made. They don't

1:29:57.920 --> 1:29:59.680
<v Speaker 20>want CNN. They don't want to run a newsroom and

1:29:59.680 --> 1:30:02.080
<v Speaker 20>all of the and the cost of running a news

1:30:02.160 --> 1:30:06.519
<v Speaker 20>operation globally. They don't even really want the studio production

1:30:06.680 --> 1:30:09.240
<v Speaker 20>because they can do that on their own, but really

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<v Speaker 20>most of that they outsourced. They hire production companies to

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<v Speaker 20>these studios and studio production and everything else, they want

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<v Speaker 20>the content. And we're in as paramount is saying no,

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<v Speaker 20>we know how to run a news operation. We know

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<v Speaker 20>how to run studios, and we do want to do

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<v Speaker 20>all of that, and then so their offer is more encompassing.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting. Well, we shall see how it all develops. Alex,

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<v Speaker 1>we really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to thank Kas and Jason and other news.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a couple license plate stories here for you. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>not know this, but I guess Now in Florida they're

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<v Speaker 1>making most license plate frames illegal. Okaym have slipped on

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<v Speaker 1>your radar. Florida now prohibits any obstruction of license plates,

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<v Speaker 1>making a second gree misdemeanor under House Build two fifty

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<v Speaker 1>three and Statute three twenty Dash zero sixty one. The

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<v Speaker 1>new legislation makes it illegal to block, cover, distort, or

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<v Speaker 1>even slightly obscure a Florida license plate, with penalties that

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<v Speaker 1>includes sixty days in jail or a five hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 1>fine for knowing me driving with an obscured plate. So

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<v Speaker 1>everybody has a lot of those little frame things and

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<v Speaker 1>this and that, and if any of it covers up

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a number or something, I can

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<v Speaker 1>see that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's some of those that are pretty elaborate,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, oh yeah, you know, but like Notre Dame

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<v Speaker 2>Alum notre you know Ohio State Buckeyes fan, or you

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<v Speaker 2>know Ohio State Buckeyes Nay fan, but like, and some

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<v Speaker 2>of those can kind of get a little deep and

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<v Speaker 2>cover up sometimes definitely cut cover up what state, right

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<v Speaker 2>the license plate is, so I can see that.

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<v Speaker 1>So, I mean probably most of them are are harmless,

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<v Speaker 1>but some of them are trying to obscure your license plate,

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<v Speaker 1>whether if you're driving through an area that has tolls

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, you know, over the cops that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. Which here's another story, and this is in Australia,

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<v Speaker 1>but a a motorists used a technique you might see

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<v Speaker 1>out of like Double O seven, where he essentially he

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<v Speaker 1>had a remote controlled plate that folded down and covered

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<v Speaker 1>his license plate. So you say, you're getting ready to

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<v Speaker 1>go through a toll, he has a little remote control.

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<v Speaker 3>And puts like a fake plate over the real plate.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even have made a fake. It looks like

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<v Speaker 1>it was just like a like a blank just like

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<v Speaker 1>a white piece of metal. And well they finally caught

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<v Speaker 1>up with it because they're they're pretty smart. But as

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<v Speaker 1>he was okay, he passed under a toll alongside of

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<v Speaker 1>bright blue Lexus gs, he noticed something was quite right.

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<v Speaker 1>The Lexus's license plate appeared blank. This is the cop talking,

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<v Speaker 1>but Bo. Now the police have finally caught up to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Police say the driver was a twenty two year old.

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<v Speaker 1>He used a stealth plate curtain to dodge tolls. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I've thought about that every time I go through it.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, I think, I think paying a toll

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<v Speaker 1>is un American nice man In a way, I would

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<v Speaker 1>make the argument that you know, our taxes, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're using the highway system, then you should pay

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<v Speaker 1>into that. But that's what our other taxes are supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be paying for that. All of our other taxes

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<v Speaker 1>are supposed to be paying for streets, you know, the roadways, bridges,

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<v Speaker 1>all that stuff. But now they added to throw another

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<v Speaker 1>tax on top of that. Because our taxes that were

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to cover are covering fifty different other things, they

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be covered. Brother, I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>You go out like we did this trip out over

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<v Speaker 2>the summer, my buddy Lee and I we took our

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<v Speaker 2>sons out. We did a baseball trip, went to Baltimore

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<v Speaker 2>Camman Yards and went up the Yankee Stadium, then onto

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<v Speaker 2>the Fenway Park. So we did three stadiums East Coast

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<v Speaker 2>and and you know, so Maryland has a toe just driving,

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<v Speaker 2>Maryland has a toll, Massachusetts has a toll.

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<v Speaker 1>New York has a toll.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you start getting all those bills because it's

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<v Speaker 2>not it's all there's no toll boost. So then you

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<v Speaker 2>start getting those because they just take a picture of

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<v Speaker 2>license plate. And then I made the mistake of like

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<v Speaker 2>just being I'll pay those when I get to them, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty days, and that thing goes up. Well, I end

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<v Speaker 2>up paying dog gone. I bet I end up paying

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<v Speaker 2>well over one hundred I think it was like one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and twenty bucks total because I let them all

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<v Speaker 2>like I didn't realize they they penalized you that quick,

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<v Speaker 2>like yeah, fine or whatever.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm like, but just.

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<v Speaker 2>Alone though, I'm like, good lord, I mean, imagine how

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<v Speaker 2>much money they're making with all those especially that's such

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<v Speaker 2>a heavily populated area of the country. It's like, where's

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<v Speaker 2>the money going now? I will say, like Maryland's Maryland's

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<v Speaker 2>highways were smooth.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a baby's bind. I mean those things were smoo

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean come and and then and again again.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great, but that that's what all the other taxes

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<v Speaker 1>we pay I think should be going to agreed? I

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<v Speaker 1>mean we're already paying a state gas tax, a federal

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<v Speaker 1>gas tax. Yeah, what other gas tax or what other

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<v Speaker 1>taxes are we paying? I'm sure California has even a

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<v Speaker 1>local gas tax, Sure, a neighborhood gas tax. I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>i'm a. I'm of the opinion your tax should go

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<v Speaker 1>to roads, clean water, in a military.

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<v Speaker 4>That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can privatize any of those. I'm mom up

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<v Speaker 1>for listening. That's what your tax should go to. Roads, military?

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<v Speaker 7>And what was the other one?

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<v Speaker 4>I said?

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<v Speaker 1>Clean water? I throw police and fire in there.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's what I mean by military police fire.

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<v Speaker 1>That's yeah, the safety aspect of Yeah, we should go

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<v Speaker 1>to cops, firefighters, paramedics in the military.

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<v Speaker 2>But never all be driving on smooth streets and highways

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<v Speaker 2>all over this country and.

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<v Speaker 1>We wouldn't have to use license plate covers like these

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<v Speaker 1>guys say or down in Florida, I mean remote control.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, you decided to try that? All right, let's

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead ject some trafficking weather.

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<v Speaker 3>How are we looking