Speaker 1: The show, and he's out them alongside Jason Williams and
Speaker 1: Jason we're gonna start our show with a little breaking
Speaker 1: Bengals news hit me.
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals head coach Zach Taylor announced that the team
Speaker 2: has released wide receiver Jermaine Burton. Yes, the team announce,
Speaker 2: so it has waived him.
Speaker 3: So there's your news. How many games have you been
Speaker 3: active this year?
Speaker 4: Zero?
Speaker 1: Zero? Right, yes, zero?
Speaker 2: And then this weekend he didn't make the trip to Buffalo,
Speaker 2: and it's like, here's the thing, man, when t when
Speaker 2: T Higgins went down, Like, that's your prime opportunity and
Speaker 2: he's still inactive.
Speaker 1: I mean that's what you always tell Like I tell
Speaker 1: my kid and kids your your coach say, look, just
Speaker 1: just keep working because your chance will come. I mean,
Speaker 1: you may not like the circumstances now, but something's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna get hurt. You're gonna find yourself in the game.
Speaker 1: So just make sure you're ready for when that moment happens.
Speaker 1: And his came and went. T Higgins was down. Could
Speaker 1: it really use a big play wide receiver to stretch
Speaker 1: the field and he wasn't ready to go? And now
Speaker 1: despite many other other problems he has, and now they're
Speaker 1: finally saying we can't.
Speaker 2: Finally guy, Finally, you know, they moved on. And that
Speaker 2: was the twenty twenty four third round draft pick. Off
Speaker 2: the top of my head, yes, yes, yeah, right, thank you,
Speaker 2: thank you, Addie. You know, they took a fly on him,
Speaker 2: and that was obviously the buzz and Nick Saban had
Speaker 2: had made comments like, you know, questioning him, and obviously
Speaker 2: he had played at Alabama, he played at Georgia as well.
Speaker 2: You know, tremendous, tremendous talent, But talent's only going to
Speaker 2: get you so far, especially in the league, especially what
Speaker 2: you know a little bit about.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, you see a bunch of guys come in
Speaker 1: and they look like this, and they run this and
Speaker 1: they benched this, and you're like, oh my god, this
Speaker 1: guy's getting ready to just just tear it up. And
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen because they're not focused, they don't have
Speaker 1: a based of fundamentals, and they have distractions and it's
Speaker 1: just been everything when it comes to that guy.
Speaker 2: So I'm telling you, and you know, Mike Brown has
Speaker 2: always been kind of known, much like his father, as
Speaker 2: the quote great redeemer and you know, like to take guys.
Speaker 2: They needed some help, and they hung in there with
Speaker 2: him much longer than probably any other NFL team would have.
Speaker 2: And finally, you know, if the Bengals have said that's it,
Speaker 2: we're done that that I'd be surprised if this guy
Speaker 2: you see this guy in the NFL again?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 1: Did they give a reason for why he was suspended
Speaker 1: this weekend rather than just being inactive like every other game?
Speaker 3: As of yesterday?
Speaker 2: I was asking around about it and there was not
Speaker 2: nothing was known in terms of I don't know if
Speaker 2: anything ended up leaking out or something, but from what
Speaker 2: I could tell and what I was told, that there
Speaker 2: was nothing. There was no reason given.
Speaker 3: Gotcha, all right?
Speaker 2: So he was inactive, didn't make the trip, and it
Speaker 2: wasn't real injury related, right.
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 1: So yeah, if you're just joining us the breaking news,
Speaker 1: wide receiver Jermaine Burton has been released by the Bengals,
Speaker 1: and if we find out any more info in that,
Speaker 1: we'll be sure to give it to you. So let's
Speaker 1: pivot a little bit here, Jason to the game yesterday
Speaker 1: in general, I mean, a heartbreaker, but you can say
Speaker 1: that about a lot of Bengals games this year. First
Speaker 1: of all, I'll say this just from a pure just
Speaker 1: entertainment standpoint, the first half of that game seen maybe
Speaker 1: the best like dual quarterback play I've ever seen. I mean,
Speaker 1: both and Al were just throwing balls that I was
Speaker 1: even I was watching a little bit of with my dad.
Speaker 1: I'm like twenty years ago, Like no one even attempts
Speaker 1: that passed like where you fit it in like between
Speaker 1: four guys. Coach would say, you're crazy, why would you
Speaker 1: throw that? And they just do it over and over
Speaker 1: and over again. Well there was the one.
Speaker 2: I mean, both those guys had two where they just
Speaker 2: they squeezed it in h Allen that scrambled out and
Speaker 2: you're like, he's gonna I mean, he's just gonna to
Speaker 2: throw it away here tucking in. He's not gonna get
Speaker 2: the first that it was third down and they were
Speaker 2: in the red zone, and then he just I remember
Speaker 2: because Barrett Carter had his back to uh and he
Speaker 2: just somehow, Like I mean, there was four guys around
Speaker 2: the defense and it was one of those I don't
Speaker 2: really even know if you blame the defense as much
Speaker 2: as like the fact that this was a broken play
Speaker 2: and he just somehow threaded some needle and found the guy.
Speaker 2: It was almost I think thrown behind him slightly.
Speaker 1: He broke the rule that every quarterback coach and offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator tells you, which is, if you're rolling out, you
Speaker 1: never throw a ball late across your body across the middle.
Speaker 3: And he did and it it always seems to work
Speaker 3: when he doesn't.
Speaker 2: So maybe he's in Burrow through that one to Chase
Speaker 2: Brown there in the in the corner right at the
Speaker 2: corner of the front corner us of the right by
Speaker 2: the goal line. And that was that was just that
Speaker 2: was also incredible and dang it, Rocky, it's a dang
Speaker 2: shame that we're not going to get to see those
Speaker 2: two again in the playoffs or potentially. Yeah, the fact
Speaker 2: that we're not going to get and we're going to
Speaker 2: get another uh January without Joe Burrow and the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what you want to.
Speaker 2: See those that, like I remember growing up watching football,
Speaker 2: like you know, those were the matchups that you that
Speaker 2: they had, like, uh, it was the quarterback that you know,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking John l Way you know from me, Burnie
Speaker 2: Cozar and Jim Kelly and those those are the quarterback
Speaker 2: matchups that that's why those teams were in the playoffs,
Speaker 2: and you live for that, and I mean obviously you know,
Speaker 2: the TV networks love it, and uh.
Speaker 1: We all love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like, it's just a shame that we're
Speaker 2: not going to get to see that or potentially even
Speaker 2: see that in the AFC Championship game or somewhere along
Speaker 2: some along along the lines in the playoffs, because I
Speaker 2: like and again, I think those are two teams that
Speaker 2: could go either way, and it just you know, it'll
Speaker 2: be It just came down to Burrow through you know
Speaker 2: that guy. That guy made a great play on that.
Speaker 1: That made a great play and and I didn't hear
Speaker 1: the conversation, but it looked like it was gonna be
Speaker 1: a different play, probably a run play, and nobody saw
Speaker 1: saw the coverage out there and said boom, okay, basically
Speaker 1: you know a little screen that's a that's an extension
Speaker 1: of the run game, right, So you just it was.
Speaker 2: Kind of weird too, like I don't know, like if
Speaker 2: he went back and watched it, like the way it
Speaker 2: was almost like Burrow was trying to pop it up.
Speaker 2: Like the way he threw it. It was kind of
Speaker 2: like he was almost like pushing it up.
Speaker 3: Like he didn't pop it enough.
Speaker 1: No, he did not.
Speaker 3: That made a great play. That was that was an
Speaker 3: incredible and I mean.
Speaker 1: Burrow certainly deserves criticism for you know, how great he was.
Speaker 1: But but I mean, throwing back to back interceptions is
Speaker 1: never good, even though it was just a phenomenal play
Speaker 1: the guy made.
Speaker 3: But but I.
Speaker 1: Mean the loss in all this that the defense kind
Speaker 1: of came back regress back to the norm that we've
Speaker 1: seen most of the year. I mean, if they don't,
Speaker 1: you know, if Turner doesn't knock that ball out of
Speaker 1: James Cook's hands on the goal line, they go up
Speaker 1: much earlier. In that game, in the second half, Bengals
Speaker 1: couldn't really stop anybody. The thing I couldn't understand is
Speaker 1: the amount of times Josh Allen ran.
Speaker 3: For yardage up the middle. I just so frustrating.
Speaker 1: I know for a fact that during the week they said, look, hey,
Speaker 1: we cannot give up vertical rush lanes this guy. So
Speaker 1: when you're rushing the past or you got to maintain
Speaker 1: gap integrity, lane integrity, you know, just kind of push
Speaker 1: it back, don't get too wide. And twice it happened.
Speaker 1: Once he had a forty yard run and then on
Speaker 1: the basically the final play of the game, the yeah,
Speaker 1: the third and fifteen there, so that was I just
Speaker 1: think it still comes down to j in this This defense,
Speaker 1: as I have said, and I'm sure you have said,
Speaker 1: it just doesn't have the talented enough players on it
Speaker 1: to be able to because you're not gonna be able
Speaker 1: to be perfect every time.
Speaker 3: Sometime you just need a guy to just make a.
Speaker 1: Damn play, and they don't really have that guy that
Speaker 1: consistently can do that, or two guys or three guys
Speaker 1: like some defenses do.
Speaker 2: And what what should be concerning I think for Bengals
Speaker 2: fans is that you know, the the defense, it had
Speaker 2: played better and played better in the first staff yesterday,
Speaker 2: and it had played better the last few weeks, and
Speaker 2: you're like, oh boy, like and again, now if they
Speaker 2: would have somehow some way kept us rolling and made
Speaker 2: the playoffs, and you're kind of like, okay, and they
Speaker 2: were showing improvement, But the concern is that like that,
Speaker 2: the front office looks at that window of a couple
Speaker 2: of games and says, that's how we're capable of playing.
Speaker 3: That's that tells us that we're close.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like no, no, no, no, Like you can't now two
Speaker 2: seasons in a row where your defense has cost you
Speaker 2: the postseason. I mean, you know, whether you had Burrow
Speaker 2: playing at an MVP level or you didn't have Burrow
Speaker 2: playing at all for nine games, like, it was still
Speaker 2: the same story your defense. It didn't matter. Your defense
Speaker 2: was so bad. And you know, you know, I mean
Speaker 2: I wrote my column to Day once to say dot
Speaker 2: Com about like, you know, Burrow has to be perfect
Speaker 2: and it's just not possible. And and so they've put
Speaker 2: themselves the no margin for air, in a position to
Speaker 2: last two Decembers because of their defense for the most part,
Speaker 2: I mean, the early season struggles last year anyway, and
Speaker 2: it's just like they're there that we've seen enough sample
Speaker 2: size now that you have to overhaul the defense. You
Speaker 2: have to do something. You have to somehow, some way
Speaker 2: get better at drafting. You have to, somehow, some way
Speaker 2: decide you're going to spend money and get creative and
Speaker 2: spend some money on the defensive side, because this isn't working.
Speaker 2: Trying to sit here and wait for Miles Murphy and
Speaker 2: wait for Shamar Stewart and uh, you know, wait for
Speaker 2: Cam Taylor brid and wait for you know some of
Speaker 2: those younger battle and yeah, it's like it's it's not
Speaker 2: you just run it back mentality just it isn't work well.
Speaker 1: And you're right that, you know, winning sometimes, I mean
Speaker 1: really all the time clouds your opinion because you're winning, Like, oh,
Speaker 1: I've seen.
Speaker 2: It, Joe Burrow clouds their opinion. Correct, Joe Burrow, Like
Speaker 2: you know, we say, we've said a lot, like he
Speaker 2: masks so much for them, and which is great. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's all part of the team and that's that's his
Speaker 2: job and that's how great he is. And they have
Speaker 2: him and the other thirty one teams don't so good
Speaker 2: for them.
Speaker 3: But you know he cannot. He cannot like do it all.
Speaker 3: He just can't.
Speaker 2: And so like you know, yesterday, that's the kind of
Speaker 2: game where you know that that guy makes an incredible
Speaker 2: play and it's like, okay, well, yeah, Joe Burrow's human,
Speaker 2: like he's gonna make some mistakes here and there, and
Speaker 2: even that one was kind of like that guy made
Speaker 2: a great play and you know Joe Burrow, yes, made
Speaker 2: a mistake, but give that other guy credit to like, but.
Speaker 3: Like Joe Burrow can't even afford to do that, all.
Speaker 1: Right, I mean to your point, you don't want you
Speaker 1: don't want Joe Burrow out there every single game, every
Speaker 1: play thing, and boy, I gotta be perfect here, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's such a luxury if in the back
Speaker 1: of his mind, see, you know what, I can take
Speaker 1: a risk here because our defense will they'll make a
Speaker 1: stop and we'll be fine. But now in his head
Speaker 1: he's probably like, we don't have that luxury at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then I think I think everything sort of
Speaker 2: the bow was tied.
Speaker 1: On this defense.
Speaker 2: With that last play you referenced it, Josh Allen. It's
Speaker 2: third and fifteen. You get a stop there right around
Speaker 2: the two minute mark, and you give that ball to
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow. Let's go, and you know that's what Joe.
Speaker 2: I mean. They flash over to Joe Burrown and like, gosh,
Speaker 2: he's like it was like a serial killer.
Speaker 4: His face.
Speaker 2: You knew you you could feel it. And then they
Speaker 2: let him run right up the middle and Geno Stone
Speaker 2: is ready impositioned for the tackle and the guy just
Speaker 2: like goes one way and Geno Stone is flailing and
Speaker 2: it's like, dude, that was tackling runner. But he's not
Speaker 2: like a jukie guy that he literally just made that
Speaker 2: one move and it's like it wasn't like it was
Speaker 2: you know, cat quick kind of move. That's a big guy,
Speaker 2: and he just goes right and then like Geno Stone's
Speaker 2: diving like he's you know, playing fifth grade football and
Speaker 2: just learning how to tackle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wasn't good. I guess the Bengals are mathematically still alive.
Speaker 1: I believe they have to Steelers has to tie twice
Speaker 1: or something something nuts. But nevertheless, I mean say it
Speaker 1: out loud, this is a Bengals team that has four wins
Speaker 1: in early mid December.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not a playoff teams. For Engles fans are better, man,
Speaker 2: Bengals fans is are better.
Speaker 1: They've hung in there.
Speaker 2: They've been so loyal to this franchise. They got their
Speaker 2: hopes up rightfully. So after that Super Bowl run and
Speaker 2: then back the FC championship, just barely miss another super Bowl.
Speaker 2: You got a lot of core pieces from that team.
Speaker 2: One core piece you don't Jesse Bates. But now here
Speaker 2: you are sitting here thinking like what's the future look like?
Speaker 2: Is Joe Burrow the next Dan Marino?
Speaker 3: That's it. That's exactly right.
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Speaker 3: Did they get screwed or was it just fight?
Speaker 2: I I that's a hard, hard question to answer. I
Speaker 2: see the argument on both sides. My my iyre is
Speaker 2: more on what came after that. But I think the
Speaker 2: right now we're focused on did they get screwed?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And I think the same thing I can make an
Speaker 1: army even as a Notre Dame fan, I would admit
Speaker 1: that their schedule wasn't divin't have a bunch of world
Speaker 1: beaters on it. And I admit that a head to
Speaker 1: head loss, even though it was the first game of
Speaker 1: the year and it was by three points. And I
Speaker 1: get it because it's it's empirical data. It's hard to ignore.
Speaker 2: Go through all those teams that are in the playoffs,
Speaker 2: so rock and look, well look at it. Look at
Speaker 2: who played other teams that are in the in the playoffs, right,
Speaker 2: not very many? Well exactly. And then obviously until the
Speaker 2: conference championship games.
Speaker 1: The team that I think that they should have I
Speaker 1: think Miami should have gone. I think the team that
Speaker 1: should have gone in over was Alabama. I called them
Speaker 1: this year and that is not an Alabama team like
Speaker 1: the Alabama teams we've we've seen in the past. And
Speaker 1: they went out and showed that this past weekend. Right,
Speaker 1: they lost by twenty one got killed by George. They
Speaker 1: had negative three rushing yards in the game, and that
Speaker 1: gave them their third loss. And all and again, so
Speaker 1: much with the committee does and what drives them is
Speaker 1: they don't want to set precedence for this and and
Speaker 1: they want the conference title games matter. So they're very
Speaker 1: particular about we're not gonna punish you for making it
Speaker 1: to a conference title game and losing. But it's not
Speaker 1: like they had one loss and they go to the
Speaker 1: title game and get beat No, they already had two losses.
Speaker 5: I mean, the.
Speaker 1: I know, and they got blown out.
Speaker 3: And by Georgia. How you play?
Speaker 1: I just feel like so much should be And I
Speaker 1: understand eye tests is very subjective, but I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: look at that team, Look at Notre Dame, how they're playing. Now,
Speaker 1: what does your brain tell you, I said, tells you
Speaker 1: that's a damn good team. You're the eye test with
Speaker 1: Alabama right now says they just don't look like a
Speaker 1: dominant Alabama's team. Oh and by the way, they have
Speaker 1: three losses, I think they should have got left out well.
Speaker 1: And then I mean even go in and again, this
Speaker 1: seems like the whole thing is all over the place
Speaker 1: because then like you know, the team's rewarded for blowing
Speaker 1: another team out. But Alabama no, because remember this committee
Speaker 1: members said like that, you know, their gutsy call on
Speaker 1: fourth down to end up beating a five and seven
Speaker 1: Auburn team, Uh, you know, is what really helped them
Speaker 1: in the rankings. Like and they beat them by you know,
Speaker 1: by a touchdown. It's like, again, that was a bad
Speaker 1: Auburn team. That was what got him into the the
Speaker 1: SEC championship game. But you go through here and you know,
Speaker 1: you you know, you lost the Florida State You lost
Speaker 1: at home, uh to to Oklahoma, which is in the playoff,
Speaker 1: which they're getting ready they're gonna play in the in
Speaker 1: the first game of the playoffs. And you know, they
Speaker 1: they they struggled in a lot of games. And again like, yeah,
Speaker 1: a win is a win, and win is a win
Speaker 1: in the SEC. But but go look at Notre Dames.
Speaker 1: Resume they won ten in a row.
Speaker 2: They they lost the first two games of the year,
Speaker 2: oh by the way, by a score, won by a
Speaker 2: field goal, and one by one point to two teams
Speaker 2: that are in the playoff, and then they reeled off
Speaker 2: ten games in a row.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean were they won by an average of
Speaker 1: thirty Like so, I remember watching the end of that
Speaker 1: Notre Dame Texas A and M game. If you recall
Speaker 1: that game, it was we missed the extra point, that's
Speaker 1: what won the game. Oh that's right, yep. So but
Speaker 1: I remember thinking my head, all right, well, it's just
Speaker 1: the second game of the year. If they went out
Speaker 1: and continue to get better, they'll be fine. Well now
Speaker 1: they're not. I did want to move forward to really
Speaker 1: what resulted of them getting left out as they made
Speaker 1: it clearer to the nc double or well to the
Speaker 1: College Football Playoff Committee, the Bowl Committee, everybody that they're
Speaker 1: declining any and all bowl invites at all to any
Speaker 1: of these non college football playoff bulls. What what now?
Speaker 4: This one?
Speaker 1: This one?
Speaker 3: All right, let's let me hear it to me.
Speaker 2: This is just like, oh, we're gonna take our ball
Speaker 2: and go home and like really like it just it's
Speaker 2: a bad it's it's it's just a bad look and
Speaker 2: it's a like it just I think it creates a
Speaker 2: lot of undue criticism for them. And everybody already has
Speaker 2: their opinion on Notre Dame. I'm one of those people,
Speaker 2: like I've always like great respect for Notre Dame and
Speaker 2: just the history and the program and the class and
Speaker 2: you know, obviously a great school and you went there.
Speaker 1: And but what what does plane in that game? The
Speaker 1: the whatever, the pop target?
Speaker 2: I don't know. And again maybe this is all Pollyanna
Speaker 2: and everything, but it's like, it's one more it's it's
Speaker 2: it's one more chance to to show to number one,
Speaker 2: for your fans to see that team, for your fans
Speaker 2: to enjoy watching your team play one more time. It's
Speaker 2: an opportunity. Even on the internal part is like, okay,
Speaker 2: all right, you're gonna, I think, to keep trying to
Speaker 2: recruit and keep intact the guys you want to keep there.
Speaker 2: And so here's one more chance for those guys to play,
Speaker 2: get better, prepare for next year.
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna make that run.
Speaker 2: We're gonna all right, we are going to get over
Speaker 2: the hump next year and make the playoff. And I know,
Speaker 2: does all sound I don't know, kind of like, well,
Speaker 2: you're not really making a strong argument, But I think
Speaker 2: too maybe I think you go in there and you
Speaker 2: blow out who are they going to play?
Speaker 1: BYU?
Speaker 2: Is that the talk that we're going to play BYU.
Speaker 2: And that was another team that you know people and
Speaker 2: you know, go in there and blow them out, and like, hey,
Speaker 2: you know what, dump your chest a little bit. See
Speaker 2: we should have been in there. And and you know,
Speaker 2: I know you're already making that argument, but let me
Speaker 2: say this.
Speaker 1: I agree on principle with everything you're saying, because I
Speaker 1: am old school and I think if you're a football player,
Speaker 1: you should play football. I would want to play football.
Speaker 1: But I recognize that it is, in my opinion, it's
Speaker 1: a different time. There's the old way and there's a
Speaker 1: new way that's happening. And right now, I think Notre
Speaker 1: Dame is saying, okay, we go to this game, what
Speaker 1: is our incentive to play for it? First of all,
Speaker 1: ten guys aren't gonna be on the team. They're gonna
Speaker 1: be going to draft or the college sport. So it's
Speaker 1: not really like you're seeing this year's team again. You're
Speaker 1: seeing kind of the team, which is, by the way,
Speaker 1: happened to a lot of schools. A lot of schools
Speaker 1: correct the top players are leaving getting ready for the
Speaker 1: drafts or transferring or whatever.
Speaker 3: So that's not there. And then I mean, and I said,
Speaker 3: this just knowing.
Speaker 1: Working for ESPN, we drive the College Football Playoff all
Speaker 1: year long and during the season it is all about
Speaker 1: the College Football Playoff. And I told some of my
Speaker 1: colleagues earlier today on a call, I said, do we
Speaker 1: how much time do we spend talking about a B
Speaker 1: and C team?
Speaker 4: Boy?
Speaker 1: If they if they keep winning, they really can make
Speaker 1: can make their way to the Liberty Bowl this year,
Speaker 1: not one second of Mariton.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so so.
Speaker 1: The so the so the player. Yeah, the players see that.
Speaker 1: They're like, well, if you're telling me that the only
Speaker 1: thing that matters is a CFP, why do you give it?
Speaker 1: Damn if we're not, if we're not going to see if
Speaker 1: we do it, do we play again? I also think
Speaker 1: it's it's so transactional.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: I said this with Willie Believe it or not. One
Speaker 3: of the incentives when.
Speaker 1: I played was my junior year, if we made it
Speaker 1: to the Fiesta Bowl, it was like we were gonna
Speaker 1: get five hundred dollars in the swag. We got these
Speaker 1: Bow's noise canceling headphones, like the first version right, and
Speaker 1: it was like, oh my god, this is so they
Speaker 1: gave ab out PlayStations. Oh yeah, you know, but.
Speaker 2: Now it's like electronics, but most of a lot of
Speaker 2: the top play everybody's got that. Now, well maybe they'd
Speaker 2: had their own money to buy it.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing is we're talking about we're gonna
Speaker 1: get five hundred dollars worth of for a Bowl gift.
Speaker 1: When we got we were getting nothing. Now that gods,
Speaker 1: you're getting paid thousands, if not tens of thousand dollars
Speaker 1: a week. Like I care about some T shirts and
Speaker 1: some headphones or a PlayStation when I'm making all this
Speaker 1: money anyway, So what what where's my incentive to play
Speaker 1: the game?
Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought that up, Rock, because I think
Speaker 2: that's part. Like they've got to find a way. And
Speaker 2: I haven't really dove into it at all, but you've
Speaker 2: got to They've got to find a way. Okay, So
Speaker 2: you know how like, oh, your school makes four million
Speaker 2: dollars for playing in the whatever, the Pop Tarts Bowl.
Speaker 2: I'm not making every every every team's every school makes
Speaker 2: some kind of money, you know, the payout of the Bowl.
Speaker 2: They've got to find a way then, obviously that would
Speaker 2: be beyond I think what the nil cap is of
Speaker 2: the twenty one million dollars a year to each school
Speaker 2: is allowed to give out, but they've got to find
Speaker 2: a way. Your team makes the bowl, this is your bonus,
Speaker 2: you know, almost like a playoff bonus. Agree in the
Speaker 2: major leagues. In the NFL, all those guys they get
Speaker 2: playoff bonuses. Your your team makes the playoffs, you make
Speaker 2: a certain amount of money. Same things should happen here.
Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more. Maybe we won't have as many opt outs,
Speaker 2: and I can I get opting out if you're going
Speaker 2: to be a first second round draft pick. I don't.
Speaker 2: I think I don't like the whole transfer portal window.
Speaker 2: It's not necessarily the players fault. It's the date they
Speaker 2: need to move that, move that off of there to
Speaker 2: avoid the opt outs for transfers. So but they've got
Speaker 2: to add in, they got to change the transfer portal date,
Speaker 2: and they've got to add in some kind of a
Speaker 2: you're right, that's you're right. Like guys don't want swag anymore.
Speaker 2: Guys don't really care about oh my gosh, you're you're
Speaker 2: we have an awesome, pristine stadium and like super cool facility.
Speaker 1: They don't even want that.
Speaker 3: How much money, how much money you gonna pay me? Right,
Speaker 3: they'll go, they'll go play.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it's right, but it is because
Speaker 1: we've created this monster and now we got to kind
Speaker 1: of live with it. And I mean I would they
Speaker 1: absolutely need to pay the players for the Bulls again,
Speaker 1: which in in just in principle, I'm against, but if
Speaker 1: they want the Bulls to keep going, they should make
Speaker 1: it like winning team gets seventy, losing team gets thirty.
Speaker 3: Now US season boys get after him play.
Speaker 1: Look, this is the world we're living now. College football
Speaker 1: is about money. We're not They're no longer hiding it.
Speaker 1: It's out there.
Speaker 4: Ye.
Speaker 1: It's what drives recruiting, it's what drives transfer, portal, it's
Speaker 1: what drives everything. Fortunately or unfortunately, we've created this monster.
Speaker 1: So now we either got to say we've got to
Speaker 1: keep going and keep going to the these are no
Speaker 1: longer amateur kids anymore, keep going, or say let's just
Speaker 1: go back to the old. And there's an argument for that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I for the go back and check the record. Ten
Speaker 1: years ago, I was like, just keep it at a
Speaker 1: four team playoff, okay, because realistically only four teams.
Speaker 3: Can really be the national champion, right, But for the
Speaker 3: rest of the.
Speaker 1: Teams, now some of the bowls and the conference titles
Speaker 1: still matter, and more teams can feel like we had
Speaker 1: a successful season. Right now, it is if you don't
Speaker 1: make the College Football Playoff, or if you're some scores,
Speaker 1: you don't win it, you're a farewell, you're a failure.
Speaker 1: Or it used to be like, Okay, maybe in Ohio
Speaker 1: you're at Ohio State, you're in a down year.
Speaker 3: Okay, you're not gonna win the title.
Speaker 1: But you know you could go to the Gator Bowl
Speaker 1: and win an opponent or win or play the or
Speaker 1: or playing the Big Ten title game, and boy, we
Speaker 1: won the Big You know who won the SEC four
Speaker 1: years ago? Who won the American? Who won the ACC
Speaker 1: four years ago? You can't tell me because people don't
Speaker 1: don't care. What a mess it is a mess. I
Speaker 1: I mean there's other things to talk about.
Speaker 2: I know we're gonna get to break, but I mean
Speaker 2: the Notre Dames Athletic or Pete Levaukua coming out basically
Speaker 2: saying that the ACC has done permanent damage to their
Speaker 2: relationship our name, and I guess, you know, I don't
Speaker 2: know if the commissioner came out, I didn't see, but
Speaker 2: he was on I saw the clip on Dan Patrick
Speaker 2: and basically where he was like, essentially, I guess the
Speaker 2: lobbying for Miami and the ACC teams to get in
Speaker 2: and rub them the wrong way, and it's like, well,
Speaker 2: you're not in the.
Speaker 1: A CC for four are trying to force an entertainment
Speaker 1: of the conference, and if they are, this is the
Speaker 1: probably wrong way to go about it. Anyway, We'll continue
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Speaker 1: comment about Notre Dame fire away.
Speaker 9: Yeah, rock Hey, I was there during the low hoole
Speaker 9: Sclory days and spent forty bucks on Catholic versus com mixture.
Speaker 9: So tell Joe Frederick he has me forty bucks.
Speaker 3: Good luck getting that out of him, right, but uh,
Speaker 3: by the way, yeah.
Speaker 9: Okay, Notre Dame guys grew blued and tattooed, and you
Speaker 9: know it goes to show you if if we can
Speaker 9: lose to a pathetic lower level teams like Marshall and
Speaker 9: Northern Illinois and still get in to a playoff and
Speaker 9: and be and make it to a final. That is
Speaker 9: not your argument, you had said before the top four
Speaker 9: team should get in the top Where where what are
Speaker 9: we like tenth? I mean, we were very capable, and
Speaker 9: you know it of winning the whole thing this year,
Speaker 9: and for Alabama to get boat raced by Georgia and
Speaker 9: then we boat race ten teams in a row and
Speaker 9: then they lose to pathetic Florida State team. You know
Speaker 9: that so much SEC bias. And I know you can't
Speaker 9: really rail on your other employer, but there is a
Speaker 9: lot of BS that goes along with the ESPN's SEC
Speaker 9: bias to lobby for Bama.
Speaker 2: And you know, I might want to check your history,
Speaker 2: by the way, on that. When you call Marshall pathetic,
Speaker 2: you might want to check your history on that.
Speaker 9: No, Marshall's a fine team. I was just I was
Speaker 9: just ribbing you there, Jason, while I had you on
Speaker 9: the air. So I just got to get a new
Speaker 9: play by play announcer, you know, getting a little more
Speaker 9: excited when you pull those great upsets off.
Speaker 3: All right exactly?
Speaker 2: Northern Illinois, Yeah, Stanford USC, Yeah, Yeah, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3: Well, Dave some great points and thank you.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just think that, as I said, I I don't
Speaker 1: think I mean say it out loud Notre Dame is
Speaker 1: not playing with a team that they have in jam
Speaker 1: you and Tulane are.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 1: I have no problem with it in functionality though, because
Speaker 1: that's how it's set up now, but should that be
Speaker 1: how it is? And you know, my biggest argument is
Speaker 1: still that Alabama got they beat on the final, last
Speaker 1: second play. They beat a five and seven Auburn team
Speaker 1: that had an interim coach, and then they go out
Speaker 1: and get killed by Georgia or and and look awful
Speaker 1: doing it, and that gave.
Speaker 3: Him their third loss. That means something.
Speaker 2: As the guy who as a Marshall fan who champions
Speaker 2: the little guy, the way this thing is set up
Speaker 2: right now, I would say no, Like, if you're gonna
Speaker 2: you've set it up to where you should be the
Speaker 2: best twelve teams. Now, if you were to expand that,
Speaker 2: not obviously to an NCAA tournament, but if you were
Speaker 2: expand it out relatively speaking in football, then I think
Speaker 2: you probably there. There's where you got to let little
Speaker 2: guys in. But this thing is all over the map.
Speaker 2: It's I don't get it and the committee, that to
Speaker 2: me is what needs to be changed, and we got
Speaker 2: to run. I think having a good call with some
Speaker 2: of those folks that they're unpaid volunteers that are supposed
Speaker 2: to be really dialed into this, and I'm not sure
Speaker 2: they are. All right, Let's go ahead and we've got
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Speaker 14: Growing calls for footage of a boat strike to be
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Speaker 15: Last week, the President said that he would support the
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Speaker 1: All right, our number two rocking alongside Jason Williams and
Speaker 1: Jason the heavy sports time of year. But maybe a
Speaker 1: little bit buried was the news that came out late
Speaker 1: last week about our mayor.
Speaker 3: I have to have puerival having some call it financial issues.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: Seemingly, you're a good friend, that's right, Me and him
Speaker 1: big good friends.
Speaker 2: Now you him and will you guys go out to dinner? Yeah,
Speaker 2: but you guys got like a quarterly dinner.
Speaker 1: I would do it. I have lots of information I
Speaker 1: would like when I covered I always enjoyed talking at
Speaker 1: he was always accessible and enjoy talking to him. He
Speaker 1: may be accessible, but he's not now his finances right
Speaker 1: now because apparently I guess, not once but twice he's
Speaker 1: had cars that have been repossessed or in danger getting repossessed.
Speaker 1: Also possibly some things with you know, with his house
Speaker 1: and the rent on that, and and I guess. Look,
Speaker 1: and one hand, it's look what happens to someone in
Speaker 1: their private businesses, that's fine. But on the other hand,
Speaker 1: this is a guy that's in charge of major financial
Speaker 1: decisions for our city have some problem. Look not a
Speaker 1: good look.
Speaker 2: You're in charge, you're in charge of what over a
Speaker 2: billion dollars budget taxes and you're you know, you're making
Speaker 2: decisions on you know what, how much money to put
Speaker 2: in the streets and all kinds of different programs and
Speaker 2: you can't even have your own financial house in order.
Speaker 2: That is not a good look. You're not sure you're
Speaker 2: you're in the right job.
Speaker 1: Great, No, that's what we want to discuss. We bring
Speaker 1: on our heavy hitter. Look attorney here, Steve Good and
Speaker 1: Steve welcome to the program.
Speaker 4: How are you fantastic? How are you?
Speaker 1: We are good? Steve so, so, what did you make
Speaker 1: when you saw are making a big too big of
Speaker 1: a big deal this? Are people making a big deal
Speaker 1: of this and maybe just trying to take a shot
Speaker 1: at the mayor? Should we let this go? What's your thoughts?
Speaker 17: Well, my first thought is Cincinnati just has a weird
Speaker 17: history with mayors and like bounced checks and so forth.
Speaker 17: I mean, if you go back to Jerry Spring oh yeah,
Speaker 17: and the prostitute, I mean that's kind of what how
Speaker 17: he became sort of famous.
Speaker 4: So God God rest his soul.
Speaker 17: So I don't know what it is about mayors and
Speaker 17: Cincinnati and bounce checks. But it's it's in the water
Speaker 17: over there, I guess. But I mean, are we making
Speaker 17: too big of a deal about it? I mean the
Speaker 17: short answer is, you know, you know, I don't know
Speaker 17: that anyone's making that big a deal about it. It's
Speaker 17: a very weird circumstance. No one should ever celebrate anybody
Speaker 17: having personal financial issues, if indeed that's what's going here.
Speaker 4: I'm not crowing about that.
Speaker 17: I mean, it's if he really is having problems, that's
Speaker 17: that's terrible.
Speaker 4: I know, he lives in a very nice house.
Speaker 17: He lives actually vert near me on a private street,
Speaker 17: and you know, it doesn't make a lot of sense.
Speaker 17: But but I'm concerned about two things here. I guess
Speaker 17: number one is his story about what happened just doesn't
Speaker 17: make any sense. I mean, he's basically saying he had
Speaker 17: an issue with auto pay, and I would think the
Speaker 17: bank is going to say the issue with auto pay
Speaker 17: was that there was no money in the account.
Speaker 4: For the auto pay.
Speaker 17: Anyone who's ever paid a car loan knows that when
Speaker 17: you do auto pay, which I do, you get multiple
Speaker 17: emails saying, hey, the money's coming out. The money has
Speaker 17: been taken out, and that before something goes to repossession
Speaker 17: or written notices and all kinds of things. So the
Speaker 17: idea that you just might miss a payment or two
Speaker 17: and they come take your car, that's not the way
Speaker 17: it works from a legal standpoint in Ohio. So his
Speaker 17: story on its face doesn't make sense and it really
Speaker 17: looks like dissembling. The other issue I have is this
Speaker 17: is when we look at our very recent history at
Speaker 17: city Hall, we had at least two of the council
Speaker 17: members who serve federal prison time, mis Stynard and Jeff
Speaker 17: Past were essentially bribed because of their personal financial situation.
Speaker 17: When the word is out that you need the money,
Speaker 17: the vultures just send. And I think that is that
Speaker 17: is an even bigger problem that we have. No one's
Speaker 17: really in a position to say no. And honestly, you
Speaker 17: have this other kind of issue, which I call this
Speaker 17: part of the soft corruption, which is you have people
Speaker 17: in public office sort of auditioning for roles in the
Speaker 17: private sector and giving favors to people that they hope
Speaker 17: will employ them when they get out. So you know,
Speaker 17: it's a weird thing there. I mean, I mean city
Speaker 17: you know, the Mayor's job. It pays relatively wealthy. It
Speaker 17: pays one hundred eighteen thousand dollars, but it's a full
Speaker 17: time job. You're not allowed to have any other kind
Speaker 17: of income outside that. You are rubbing shoulders of very
Speaker 17: wealthy people and expected to, I guess, dress a certain way,
Speaker 17: and drive a certain kind of car, and maintain a
Speaker 17: certain appearance and lifestyle. And it's probably in excess of
Speaker 17: what one hundred eighteen thousand dollars will buy you. So
Speaker 17: I have some sympothy from that standpoint, I suppose, But
Speaker 17: you know, all in other people may to work, and
Speaker 17: he's going to have to find a way to make
Speaker 17: it work. And it's as Jason as you said, it's
Speaker 17: just a terrible look for the for the city. And
Speaker 17: it does make you wonder whether, uh, there's the basic
Speaker 17: financial literacy down here to make the kinds of decisions
Speaker 17: that need to be made.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Steve Gooden joins us, your local attorney, former Cincinnai
Speaker 2: City council member. And Steve, when you were on city
Speaker 2: council did and again you're in you're in that elected office.
Speaker 2: Did you feel a sense of I need to I
Speaker 2: need to really really make extra sure Uh you know,
Speaker 2: I know you're already you know, a very responsible guy
Speaker 2: and successful guy from your military career and your legal
Speaker 2: career and your political career. But like, was there did
Speaker 2: you go through all of your own personal business and say,
Speaker 2: all right, I really need to make sure I'm extra
Speaker 2: buttoned up on all of you know, my bills and everything.
Speaker 2: Did did you feel more of a sense of I've
Speaker 2: got to be even extra careful on just those kinds
Speaker 2: of things.
Speaker 4: Well, you know you do.
Speaker 17: And I mean, and it's and it's hard, and I
Speaker 17: will say, and this is again out and nobody should
Speaker 17: ever belly acher complain about being in public office. I mean,
Speaker 17: it's an absolute honor straight through. But you know, but
Speaker 17: I will say that there is a part of it
Speaker 17: in the way we do things at the municipal level,
Speaker 17: not just in Cincinnati, but throughout the big cities in
Speaker 17: Ohio where you know, it is more financially challenging than
Speaker 17: I think. I say, you're on city council, you get
Speaker 17: a I think it's roughly sixty four thousand dollars a year,
Speaker 17: but it doesign need to be a part time job,
Speaker 17: and you can still do other work. And if you're
Speaker 17: a lawyer, you can still do other work. But then
Speaker 17: suddenly you realize that the cause of your connection to
Speaker 17: the city, that you have so many conflicts and conflicts of.
Speaker 4: Interest that you you you're you're not only you.
Speaker 17: But your law firm sometimes or in my case, had
Speaker 17: to pass on business because your the zoning cases and
Speaker 17: things of that nature, because they would touch the city
Speaker 17: in some way.
Speaker 4: And then you end up.
Speaker 17: With your you know, your partners and colleagues said it
Speaker 17: to you, because everyone's losing money and losing income on
Speaker 17: these things. So it's a bigger sacrifice than it might seem,
Speaker 17: particularly you know, if you're used to making more than
Speaker 17: sixty thousand dollars a year and they're living on that,
Speaker 17: so you really do have to be careful and you can.
Speaker 17: You know, there could be more of a sacrifice to
Speaker 17: it than it might seem. That's what happened to you
Speaker 17: have Pastor. He lost his private sector job due to
Speaker 17: a conflict at the city and wasn't able to find
Speaker 17: another one, and he had a house with four kids
Speaker 17: and couldn't make it work for sixty some thousand dollars,
Speaker 17: or at least that's what I believe he told the
Speaker 17: court at his.
Speaker 1: Plea, Steve, you make some great points here, and you know,
Speaker 1: if you're if you're af tab and again not saying
Speaker 1: he would do this, but you know, during the course
Speaker 1: of your days, your weeks, your months on the job,
Speaker 1: you're rubbing shoulders with Bob Cassolini and one of the lenders,
Speaker 1: and you know, having lunch with John Barrett, and you're
Speaker 1: looking around like, God, these guys are living a certain
Speaker 1: way and I'm not there, but I you know, there's
Speaker 1: everybody has that pressure to keep up with the owns is. Again,
Speaker 1: everyone faces that to some degree, but when you're in
Speaker 1: public office, it's even more of a potentially compromising situation.
Speaker 1: If you would act on those things and try to
Speaker 1: live above your means and and do things where you
Speaker 1: might be tempted to, you're gonna have more people coming
Speaker 1: up to you to tempt you with things than the
Speaker 1: average person would be.
Speaker 17: No, that's exactly right. I mean, you know, you're you're
Speaker 17: in a you're often in a you know, you're you're
Speaker 17: in a time X job, rubbing shoulders.
Speaker 4: In a role X world. You know, so it's uh,
Speaker 4: you know, it's.
Speaker 17: A very it's a it's a very different sort of thing.
Speaker 17: And and you know, and and you know, we do
Speaker 17: regard our mayors uh as sort of being you know,
Speaker 17: you know, the head of the city in a lot
Speaker 17: of ways, and uh And the pressure to look and
Speaker 17: dress and act a certain way. And you know, I say,
Speaker 17: drive a certain kind of car and go out to
Speaker 17: certain places is pretty considerable there too. And there are
Speaker 17: limits as to what you can use your campaign dollars
Speaker 17: on these day. So so the you know, the pressure
Speaker 17: is pretty extraordinary. And I would imagine and again I
Speaker 17: don't know what the circumstances are here.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 17: I cannot speculate as to his true of the mayor's
Speaker 17: true personal finances, but he would not be the first
Speaker 17: public official to get himself into trouble, either financially or ethically,
Speaker 17: trying to chase this image of prosperity that you know
Speaker 17: that you sort of feel a peer pressure to present.
Speaker 2: Steve sid Kevin Aldridge wrote a nice piece about this
Speaker 2: in the Inquire Since any dot Com. I'm basically just saying,
Speaker 2: like this just his spin and like, you know, kind
Speaker 2: of like not buying the spin.
Speaker 1: Here is it?
Speaker 2: Your read on this is that you know the AFT
Speaker 2: tab is not being is forward about or he's being
Speaker 2: he's too concerned.
Speaker 1: About being.
Speaker 2: Open and transparent about this out of embarrassment even is
Speaker 2: there is there an element of embarrassment here for him?
Speaker 2: Do you think that is why he's just saying, like, hey,
Speaker 2: it was this carelessness because you're right, like you know
Speaker 2: everything I've read and you said it earlier, like you know,
Speaker 2: you this is not a get you get a call, Hey,
Speaker 2: we're coming to repossess your car here in a couple
Speaker 2: of hours. I mean, this is a months long, weeks
Speaker 2: long thing where you're getting letters and emails and yeah calls,
Speaker 2: and you just think ultimately he's embarrassed by it and
Speaker 2: doesn't want to just sort of come out and say.
Speaker 17: That, well, you know, I mean my mother used to
Speaker 17: say to me one time I got in trouble for
Speaker 17: something in high school, and she just said, look, going
Speaker 17: forward in the future, just say the answer all questions
Speaker 17: with yes, no.
Speaker 4: Or none of my business.
Speaker 17: And he should have probably said none of my business
Speaker 17: on this one, yeah, or none of your business. I
Speaker 17: should say, you know, to to the public because its story.
Speaker 17: You know, his answer really doesn't make any kind of sense.
Speaker 17: There's a quote issue with the auto pay and again
Speaker 17: I based this.
Speaker 4: I used to the.
Speaker 17: Law firm where I used to work did a significant
Speaker 17: amount all we call creditors rights litigation or actually, you know,
Speaker 17: chasing people from bad.
Speaker 4: Loans, including bad car loans. I know the process.
Speaker 17: There are many, many, many notices that you receive before
Speaker 17: it gets to that state. And again, I'm someone right
Speaker 17: now who is paying a car payment every month on
Speaker 17: auto pay. I get an email a couple of days
Speaker 17: before the payment is to come out, which is basically like, hey,
Speaker 17: make sure there's enough money in there, and then I
Speaker 17: get a receipt once the money comes out. Again, so
Speaker 17: you get two emails every month. And I would think
Speaker 17: most people get it this way. I'm sure you could
Speaker 17: set it up for text or whatever. It's just the
Speaker 17: way we do business now as individuals. So the idea
Speaker 17: that you could fall multiple payments behind not notice it,
Speaker 17: miss all the notices, miss the written notices, I mean
Speaker 17: none of that really makes a lot of sense. And
Speaker 17: again you know the answer for him, should you know me? Well,
Speaker 17: then either like look I'm having some issues or I
Speaker 17: mess this up, or really it's a private affair, I'll
Speaker 17: deal with it.
Speaker 4: I think people would have accepted.
Speaker 17: That better than this sort of you know, clearly sort
Speaker 17: of you know, strangely worded state that really just doesn't
Speaker 17: comfort with anybody's in a regular experience as a human
Speaker 17: being and buying a car these days.
Speaker 1: Well, moving forward, Steve, my answers to any question, yes, no,
Speaker 1: or none of your damn business. That was sound advice.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate that.
Speaker 17: Love that there might have there might have been a
Speaker 17: girl involved in that, say, nineteen ninety seven, it was
Speaker 17: and it was just kind of like she was just like,
Speaker 17: maybe there's some stuff I don't want to know.
Speaker 1: Steve exactly. Well, Steve, this is a great insight, man,
Speaker 1: I really really appreciate it. Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: Hey, take care.
Speaker 3: Thanks Safety local turning, Steve Gooden joining us.
Speaker 1: I think he makes a great point, and that's you know,
Speaker 1: I've always said that, you know, if you're going to
Speaker 1: run for public office, office, any public office, yep, you
Speaker 1: need to either have all the money or none of
Speaker 1: the money. In other words, you need to have an
Speaker 1: exorbitant amount of money where you don't need to worry
Speaker 1: about making any more or what your financist is, or
Speaker 1: have nothing where you don't miss anything, you're not living
Speaker 1: a certain lifestyle. It's it's the people that where the
Speaker 1: majority of people are where they're they got a decent
Speaker 1: amount of living they're going, but it's not enough where
Speaker 1: I can just quit my job and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden if you're going you take say a Cincinnati City
Speaker 1: council job and it pays fifty which is.
Speaker 3: Okay, but you know, depending on your situation. You got
Speaker 3: four kids at home, you know, fifty is a little
Speaker 3: a little harder.
Speaker 1: So you gotta you know, I mean, it is interesting
Speaker 1: to see how Yeah, and that's why I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people don't choose to go into it, because
Speaker 1: they're like, well, I can't retire, but I'm also I'm
Speaker 1: living at a certain status level that I need to maintain,
Speaker 1: and I think that's where these folks find themselves.
Speaker 2: That was a great e a great explanation from Steve
Speaker 2: Gooden too, Like you know that the mayor you cannot
Speaker 2: have another job outside of that, right, but on council
Speaker 2: you can. That was interesting how he explained balancing you know,
Speaker 2: your sixty thousand dollars year council job with trying to
Speaker 2: do other work outside of that, depending on what that is.
Speaker 2: You know, well, I have to, you know, super duper
Speaker 2: careful with to sell the conflict of interests.
Speaker 1: And well that's what he said. Yeah, you can technically
Speaker 1: have a job, but most you can't because there's always some.
Speaker 2: Sort of unless you at minards or something. And you
Speaker 2: know that's one other thing too, I'd add real quick too.
Speaker 2: I think it probably is an interesting position for aft have.
Speaker 2: Pure of all, this guy was very successful lawyer. He
Speaker 2: was at Procter and Gamble for many years. He's been
Speaker 2: in uh elected office now for a while. The clerk
Speaker 2: of courts. I don't know what the clerk of courts
Speaker 2: makes or whatever, but you know, I'm sure there's a
Speaker 2: thought of him, like, hey, there was a lifestyle that
Speaker 2: he was once at. And again that's his personal business.
Speaker 2: But you know this isn't Procter and Gamble lawyer kind
Speaker 2: of money, right, And.
Speaker 1: You still got the same friends you were rolling around with,
Speaker 1: and now you got even you're you're moving around with
Speaker 1: the big movers and shakers of the town who are
Speaker 1: millionaire billionaire types and you're kind of feeling need to
Speaker 1: keep up. Very interesting, but we'll keep our sights on
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Speaker 2: Defensive end Trey Hendridson is set to undergo season ending surgery.
Speaker 2: Undergo quote muscle core surgery, sorry, core muscle surgery. According
Speaker 2: to ESPN's Adam Schefter, Henderson has been out since he
Speaker 2: aggravated the injury in Week eight against the Jets. He
Speaker 2: originally got hurt in that Week six game at Green Bay.
Speaker 2: He had a he had a I guess it's a
Speaker 2: hip injury. So so he's getting surgery. He is getting surgery.
Speaker 2: According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, that would put him out
Speaker 2: six weeks, which.
Speaker 3: Is the rest of the Sea this season. Okay, but
Speaker 3: your thoughts, your comments.
Speaker 2: My thought A is that I legit think he's hurt obviously,
Speaker 2: and I've always thought that. I know some people were
Speaker 2: questioning whether it was just the fact the team wasn't
Speaker 2: playing well, he had that big contract squabble. Was he
Speaker 2: kind of nursing and it was he just sort of
Speaker 2: not nursing it, but like kind of you know, taking
Speaker 2: his good old time to come back right now. I
Speaker 2: think Trey Henderson is a guy who loves to play football,
Speaker 2: and if he's healthy or close to healthy, I think
Speaker 2: he's going to be out there. I think this was
Speaker 2: a legit injury that was keeping him off the field. Now,
Speaker 2: I mean, I think we've seen the last of Trey
Speaker 2: Hendrickson in Cincinnati. I would think this, yeah, miss he
Speaker 2: did that one year, he redid his contract for one
Speaker 2: season and.
Speaker 3: What do you how much do you make this year?
Speaker 2: I'd have to go back and look at that les
Speaker 2: audios off the top of his head, you know, And
Speaker 2: here it is. It's in this story I'm reading since
Speaker 2: dot Com. In August, Henderson received a fourteen million dollar raise,
Speaker 2: bringing his salary for the twenty twenty five season to
Speaker 2: thirty million him.
Speaker 1: So he's just tough. I mean, says a lot of
Speaker 1: money for you know, little very little production. But look,
Speaker 1: that's sway it is in the NFL. I had injuries that,
Speaker 1: you know, someone on the outside could say, oh, well,
Speaker 1: how come he can't play through a torn calf? Well,
Speaker 1: let me tell you, you know, it's so yeah. I
Speaker 1: always hesitate to really get into that. I always did
Speaker 1: think it was weird with Trey how I never felt
Speaker 1: like he was a favorite amongst his teammates. And maybe
Speaker 1: that doesn't matter. There's guys I know that were great
Speaker 1: players that you know, a lot of guys didn't like him,
Speaker 1: but I certainly feel that way. I don't feel like anybody,
Speaker 1: no one ever really came to his defense like or
Speaker 1: no one ever like during the contract if you no
Speaker 1: one was ever like we need to pay trade because
Speaker 1: he's the he's the heart and blood and soul of
Speaker 1: our team. Never felt like that was the case, which
Speaker 1: again isn't right right or wrong. I just think it
Speaker 1: is the fact though I think Trey operated in US
Speaker 1: in kind of a silo. I don't think he was
Speaker 1: overly liked, but I don't think he was disliked either.
Speaker 1: I think it was just like it's all business and
Speaker 1: that guy's a you know, he plays hard and he
Speaker 1: wants to be out there. But I don't think he
Speaker 1: was a guy who was you know, all the guys
Speaker 1: wanted to hang out with him, and all the guys
Speaker 1: really looked to him as a leader. And I certainly
Speaker 1: thought when you know, they named him a team captain
Speaker 1: this year, which I thought was like, he's not really
Speaker 1: a team captain type of guy. And I thought it
Speaker 1: was a bad look when he showed up at what
Speaker 1: the mini camp. I believe it was when he was
Speaker 1: in his contract dispute, and then all the all the
Speaker 1: reporters gathered around and he just blasted the front office
Speaker 1: essentially in the Bengals. I'm like, eh, I don't think
Speaker 1: that's team captain kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 2: I get it, like you're you're in a dispute. That's
Speaker 2: the business side of this, Okay whatever. I still don't
Speaker 2: think a team captain kind of caliber guy is doing that.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I can get, like, you know, a very calculated criticism
Speaker 2: here and there of things that are going on, as
Speaker 2: long as you're owning it yourself the way Joe Burrow does.
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow will if you read.
Speaker 2: Between the lines and some of the things he says,
Speaker 2: he'll criticize the organization, but he lumps himself in with
Speaker 2: that as he's part of, Yes, I've gotta I've got
Speaker 2: I've got to be better, I've got to you know,
Speaker 2: this is part of you know, it's it's us here,
Speaker 2: It's not them, it's us. And to me, that's that's
Speaker 2: team captain kind of comments. But Trey Hendrickson, I, I
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, full disclosure. I was in that
Speaker 2: camp where I thought they needed to really get him
Speaker 2: under a multi year contract. But uh, you know, certainly
Speaker 2: there are a lot of others and in our media
Speaker 2: who said, nah, he's getting old, and you know, the
Speaker 2: the production falls off and here he is. I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't know if this has really to do with
Speaker 2: his with age. And you're right. I mean, I'm glad
Speaker 2: you brought that up about injuries, because you always gotta
Speaker 2: be careful about injuries. Like I learned this earlier in
Speaker 2: my career writing career, Like you know, it's.
Speaker 1: Tough to.
Speaker 2: Everybody has a different threshold for pain and what they're
Speaker 2: going through and like, how how was it for me
Speaker 2: as a as a reporter or whatever to like, you know,
Speaker 2: really you gotta be really careful and think really hard
Speaker 2: and talk to the people, talk to a lot of people,
Speaker 2: including the athlete about you know, when you're reporting on injuries,
Speaker 2: you know besides just a generic.
Speaker 1: Hey, this was the news of Hayes out injury. I think,
Speaker 1: especially for me when it comes to lower bodies slash
Speaker 1: core injuries, because if you if you can't move out there,
Speaker 1: I've been there. When I'm I feel like I'm moving
Speaker 1: at seventy percent of my best against guys that are
Speaker 1: the top in the world, and that's a that's a
Speaker 1: that's a way to get really hurt. Now, upper body stuff, okay,
Speaker 1: you know certain positions, I think you should try to
Speaker 1: suck it up and play if you can, But especially
Speaker 1: lower body stuff, it's hard to really gauge exactly what
Speaker 1: they're going through.
Speaker 2: That reminds me though, of a Hunter Green is a
Speaker 2: guy who's been questioned for his nursing of injury, you know,
Speaker 2: extending what what are determined like medically determined to be
Speaker 2: minor injuries, Like he had a minor grade groin strain
Speaker 2: uh in this season and he stretched that thing out
Speaker 2: of what was he out?
Speaker 1: I can't remember. He was out a long time.
Speaker 2: And you know, he got a second opinion, and the
Speaker 2: second opinion said the same thing as the first opinion.
Speaker 2: And it's a groin, Like, it's not an elbow, it's
Speaker 2: not a shoulder, it's like, it's a groin. It's a
Speaker 2: minor injury. And it's like yeah, And then came in
Speaker 2: he's coming because that's not the first time that that's happened.
Speaker 2: He's come into question for that, and and again, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's that's one athlete and I'm not you know, I
Speaker 2: think you have to always look at every guy or
Speaker 2: woman that you're covering, and it comes the injuries, is
Speaker 2: you know, their own their own saying and their own deal,
Speaker 2: Like you know, oh well that well, that injury for
Speaker 2: that guy, he kept him out, you know, two months.
Speaker 2: But that other guy had that same injury, so to speak,
Speaker 2: and he was only out for a week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that can be different. Yes, I do think. You know,
Speaker 1: there's where Hunger Green may follow though, is you know,
Speaker 1: waiting until he is one hundred percent. And I think
Speaker 1: as an athlete and a pro athlete, you're getting paid money,
Speaker 1: you gotta I always say, you know, you under certain circumstances,
Speaker 1: you can't be afraid to take a needle. You gotta
Speaker 1: go out there and play.
Speaker 2: And that's been questioning on the on the inside of
Speaker 2: the Reds organization. I think that's exactly. It's, you know,
Speaker 2: the grind of a you know, six seven month season
Speaker 2: with spring training and all that, Like you're never going
Speaker 2: to be really one hundred percent, right, I mean, but
Speaker 2: I think that is his life.
Speaker 1: I want to, I want to, I want to be.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent, but I'm like, yeah, well I gotta
Speaker 2: play through some pain and again, I don't know what
Speaker 2: your threshold for pain is because it's not my body man,
Speaker 2: you know, like I guess the argument would be, and
Speaker 2: until the Reds, I would him accountable for that?
Speaker 1: I mean, if they're you know, if he if he's
Speaker 1: probably sitting there saying, well, the Reds you know, at
Speaker 1: least haven't really seemed to threaten to trade me or
Speaker 1: get rid of me if I don't tough en up,
Speaker 1: so just keep doing it. You know, if people respond
Speaker 1: to incentives, and if he hasn't been incentivised to hurt
Speaker 1: his ass up and get healthy.
Speaker 3: You know what, why was he come back? Well that's
Speaker 3: a great that's a great point.
Speaker 4: Rock.
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Speaker 1: Eddie's out alongside Jason Williams and Jason even after a
Speaker 1: day with the Bengals fall to the Buffalo Bill's thirty
Speaker 1: nine to thirty four. Lots of breaking news around Begledom
Speaker 1: and to talk about that, we'll bring on our good
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Speaker 1: every Monday and Lap. Let's start with this. The news
Speaker 1: earlier around three o'clock came out that Jermaine Burton had
Speaker 1: been released. What can you tell us about the Jermaine
Speaker 1: Burton tenure here with the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 11: It was interesting, I guess to say the last belt
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Speaker 4: Really it's it's it's a shame you have a.
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Speaker 11: Guys.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you sound crystal clear as if you're
Speaker 1: sitting here next to the Yeah. So uh so, yeah,
Speaker 1: so we were. I was asking about Jermaine Burt and
Speaker 1: he was really today wasn't active for any game this year.
Speaker 1: It just seemed like a bad situation.
Speaker 3: What happened with that lap.
Speaker 11: Yeah, a bad situation is a good way to describe it.
Speaker 11: I mean, here's a guy that was drafted in the
Speaker 11: third round. You know, played in the SEC and the
Speaker 11: high level of football. Obviously, he's got all the physical
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Speaker 11: good size guy. Not a huge receiver, but you know
Speaker 11: good size receiver size, speed ratio is strong, he's got strength,
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Speaker 11: my defendercy he can do everything. The problem is he's
Speaker 11: got nothing upstairs for the game. I mean, it's just
Speaker 11: it's too big for him. And as Paul Brown used
Speaker 11: to say, you know, if the game's too big for you,
Speaker 11: you're not gonna be around very long. And and he's
Speaker 11: not around anymore, and lessons be learned, for sure. Unfortunate
Speaker 11: because here's a guy that everybody thought would maybe have
Speaker 11: a bright future. But you know, you have to have
Speaker 11: football IQ and IQ you know, general general education IQ
Speaker 11: as well in order to make it work.
Speaker 1: And it just seemed lap that they were assuming times.
Speaker 1: I point to the time when t Higgins is out
Speaker 1: hurt the first time and it's like, here's his time, right,
Speaker 1: you finally get your opportunity the Bengals need a guy
Speaker 1: that can stretch the defense. This is your time. And
Speaker 1: if you had been studying the playbook and working on
Speaker 1: your routes and understanding the different space and the things
Speaker 1: you need to do, the different releases you need to take,
Speaker 1: he could have taken that and grabbed it. But it
Speaker 1: never seemed like he was a guy right that wanted
Speaker 1: to do the mental things that it took to be
Speaker 1: a great pro player in the pros that you can't
Speaker 1: just be a great athlete, you must also you know,
Speaker 1: use your head and learn how to know the He
Speaker 1: never wanted to do.
Speaker 11: That again exactly. I mean, he never made any sacrifices,
Speaker 11: you know, he never he never. He never did anything
Speaker 11: you know that was going to maybe be a little
Speaker 11: bit harder, something he didn't necessarily really want to do,
Speaker 11: but was going to make him a great player. Everything
Speaker 11: came naturally to him physically, but mentally, you know, extra
Speaker 11: time with the coaches, extra study time, knows in the playbook,
Speaker 11: knows in the game plan, making sure that you knew,
Speaker 11: like you're talking about every nuance of everything that you're
Speaker 11: supposed to do. If you have to adjust your route,
Speaker 11: why and what route are you adjusting to be on
Speaker 11: the same page. You know, Joe Burrow has tremendous chemistry
Speaker 11: with Jamar Chase and t Higgins, and it's built on
Speaker 11: trust and respect, and he had neither. For what Burton
Speaker 11: was putting out on the football field. I mean it
Speaker 11: was a third down situation. He was the third receiver
Speaker 11: and they rolled coverage and doubled both of his main guys.
Speaker 11: I don't think he felt real comfortable about throwing the
Speaker 11: foot faut Burton and that's that's that's too bad, man,
Speaker 11: That's that's very sorry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she couldn't have said any better, Lap, because I
Speaker 2: I think I think Zach Taylor is as good of
Speaker 2: a culture coach as there is in all of football.
Speaker 2: And if that guy can't figure it out here and
Speaker 2: turn around here, I'm not sure we're going to see
Speaker 2: that guy in an NFL uniform.
Speaker 11: Ever, again, how would he have done with Belichick.
Speaker 1: Switching gears?
Speaker 2: Uh? Going down the list of news today, Trey Hendrickson,
Speaker 2: this comes out from ESPNU that he's gonna have surgery here,
Speaker 2: and gosh, Lap, you know, I mean, all the struggles
Speaker 2: of the defense this season and you know, not really
Speaker 2: having a fully healthy Trey Hendrickson. It may never I mean,
Speaker 2: this may be it. We may never see him again
Speaker 2: in the Bengals uniform as he was in the last
Speaker 2: year of his contract. And what do you what do
Speaker 2: you what do you think about you know, Trey Hendrickson.
Speaker 2: Is it is it time to kind of remember, well,
Speaker 2: you know, look back on his career here and think, hey,
Speaker 2: these are the good this was, this was this was
Speaker 2: overall really a good thing.
Speaker 11: Yeah, that's the thing. I you know, the way it's
Speaker 11: ending is unfortunate because you know, here's a guy fifteen
Speaker 11: sax season, seventeen and a half sax season, you know,
Speaker 11: and then all kinds of quarterback pressures and hits to
Speaker 11: go along with it. Yeah, he was a force. I mean, uh,
Speaker 11: he was a guy that, you know, over a three
Speaker 11: to five year span, was as good as anybody putting
Speaker 11: pressure off the blind side of a right handed quarterback.
Speaker 11: And it's it's unfortunate that that it is ending this
Speaker 11: way because yeah, he's having surgery. In my understanding is
Speaker 11: it's six weeks for recovery. So the season's over unless
Speaker 11: the Bengals are in the playoffs. And if they are
Speaker 11: in the playoffs, I mean a lot of rust and
Speaker 11: dustin knock off there and be a significant contributor to
Speaker 11: the playoff cause. So I think you're right. I think
Speaker 11: we're we've seen the last of Trey Henderson here in
Speaker 11: the Cincinnati Bengals uniform.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, Dave I've said, and I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's an argument, again said, I
Speaker 1: think he's you know, one of the greatest, if not
Speaker 1: the greatest free agent signing the Bengals have ever had
Speaker 1: in terms of like a strict free agent signed. I
Speaker 1: remember when, I remember where I was when the news broke,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, man.
Speaker 3: Who's I don't I don't really recall his name.
Speaker 1: I looked him up, like, Okay, he had a nice
Speaker 1: year there, but he was opposite uh what's his name?
Speaker 1: So I don't know how good he's gonna be, But man,
Speaker 1: he turned in some absolutely fantastic seasons right in the
Speaker 1: heart of some of those great Bengals teams.
Speaker 11: Really, no no doubt about it. I mean, this guy
Speaker 11: was a past rush demon. I mean he was about
Speaker 11: as good as there was in the National Football League,
Speaker 11: and the offensive coordinators lost sleep at night trying to
Speaker 11: figure out ways to uh contain him, slow him down,
Speaker 11: don't let him be a factor to his I mean
Speaker 11: he could cause turnovers, you know, knocking the ball free,
Speaker 11: making the quarterback throw the ball before he wants to
Speaker 11: and therefore thrown into coverage, not putting the ball where
Speaker 11: an open target is. I mean, he was an issue,
Speaker 11: and he made his teammates better, you know, because now
Speaker 11: everybody else is one on one. You know, everybody else
Speaker 11: has a chance, to legitimate chance to If I can
Speaker 11: get past this guy, I put it on that outside
Speaker 11: shoulder with a strong move, I can I can do
Speaker 11: some damage to the quarterback. So yeah, Trey Henderson was
Speaker 11: was definitely a tremendous player.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about the positives of yesterday.
Speaker 2: Lap you were there in the snow, you and Dan
Speaker 2: calling it, And how awesome was that first half of
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow versus Josh Allen and watching those two just
Speaker 2: incredible talents go back and forth and throw balls that
Speaker 2: you know, only maybe no other quarterbacks in all the
Speaker 2: world can can throw.
Speaker 4: It was amazing.
Speaker 11: You know, under those conditions, it was like a snow globe,
Speaker 11: you know, down there and uh are up there in Buffalo,
Speaker 11: and I mean the first three possessions for Joe Burrow touchdown, touchdown, touchdown,
Speaker 11: It's like, whoa, holy crap. I mean, you know that
Speaker 11: that's hard to do and in in great situations, uh,
Speaker 11: in terms of climate control and he he uh, Joe
Speaker 11: is a he's an amazing player. Unfortunately, he had the
Speaker 11: back to back uh snaps interceptions that that probably hasn't
Speaker 11: happened to him at any level in high school, college
Speaker 11: or the National Football League. So that one I think
Speaker 11: is probably gonna, you know, stay with him for a while,
Speaker 11: but he'll rebound. He hasn't w won bad performance. You know,
Speaker 11: keep him down very long. You can't in the National
Speaker 11: Football League. You know, you have to bounce back. You
Speaker 11: have to bounce back quickly. That's just the nature of
Speaker 11: the beast. And every every week you're playing the best
Speaker 11: of the best. So uh yeah that Uh those that
Speaker 11: weather those weather conditions though, I'll tell you one for
Speaker 11: people though that need to need to get a salute.
Speaker 11: The grounds crew. They were working their tails off.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 11: They were out there with those blowers and those brooms
Speaker 11: and they were they were working in shovels. They were
Speaker 11: getting it done, and they made the conditions as tolerable
Speaker 11: as possible, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was what a fun game. Lab If you're
Speaker 1: played in a snow game like that, I know you
Speaker 1: played in the Freezer Bowl, that's a different thing. You're
Speaker 1: playing in just a good old fashioned snow game like that.
Speaker 11: Yeah, the Freezer Bowl, obviously is the first. Is the
Speaker 11: most inclement weather condition I've.
Speaker 1: Ever played at least.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was nine.
Speaker 11: Below row temperature, fifty nine below windshill.
Speaker 1: And by the way, Lap like they that happened today,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't play the game. We've gotten softer. They would
Speaker 1: cancel that game.
Speaker 11: I think you know, it came dangerously close. It was
Speaker 11: like literally but then half an hour an hour of
Speaker 11: being canceled, but they decided decided to play it. And
Speaker 11: uh yeah, I was like big hands Johnson, and this
Speaker 11: dude's got muckers on him that are unbelievable and unbelievably strong,
Speaker 11: and I can't let him be grabbing me and yanking
Speaker 11: the material, you pulling cloths off my backside.
Speaker 4: So I did.
Speaker 11: I went sleeveless and uh and and you know, put vaciline.
Speaker 11: They'd allowed us to put vacline or exposed on your face,
Speaker 11: and and so I slapped it all over the slabbing
Speaker 11: it up and down the arms and it was so
Speaker 11: damn coll to coagulated.
Speaker 2: You know, that alone was worth your Ring of Honor induction,
Speaker 2: just that alone period period.
Speaker 11: It was crazy, It was It was crazy, nutty experience.
Speaker 1: One awesome all right. At one last thing I wanted
Speaker 1: to ask you about. I guess T Higgins is possibly,
Speaker 1: you know, has some you know, concussion type issues or
Speaker 1: what's going on with him. It didn't look like he
Speaker 1: came out of the game, uh in that greyish shape.
Speaker 11: Yeah, he had gaged again, you know, And you know
Speaker 11: how it is, once you start getting concussions, you can
Speaker 11: be susceptible to him. And he bounced off that turf
Speaker 11: pretty good. But man, that dude made some players, didn't
Speaker 11: he He is a freaking special player. He's got those
Speaker 11: long arms, those big hands. That one handed touchdown catch
Speaker 11: was a thing of beauty. And Joe Burrow has tremendous
Speaker 11: confidence in him. And we're talking about trust and respect,
Speaker 11: and you know, Jamar Chase obviously has it. Dean Burrow
Speaker 11: have been doing it since the LSU days, but so
Speaker 11: does T Higgins and Joe Burrow definitely has a one
Speaker 11: two punch that he feels is as good as any
Speaker 11: in the National Football League, and T Higgins is definitely
Speaker 11: a big part of.
Speaker 20: That, no doubt.
Speaker 2: Lap And I hope these guys can get it figured
Speaker 2: out on the defensive side for next season, because a
Speaker 2: playoffs with al Joe Burrow and T. Higgins and Jamar
Speaker 2: Chase is a darn shame. I mean, those guys are
Speaker 2: just so fun and then some of the other great
Speaker 2: you know, the offensive line has played really well for
Speaker 2: the most part of all season. For this offense to
Speaker 2: not be in the playoffs, it's you know Rock and
Speaker 2: I were talking earlier, is it's a real shame that
Speaker 2: we won't have the opportunity to potentially you see a
Speaker 2: rematch of those two teams yesterday in the playoffs, because yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's that's fun. And the Banker's got
Speaker 2: to figure it out on defense and get back there.
Speaker 4: Yeah they do.
Speaker 11: I mean, you know, they don't have to be top three,
Speaker 11: top five now, just maybe twelve to fifteen, you know,
Speaker 11: I mean, just don't be giving up thirty five forty
Speaker 11: points a game when your offense is scoring thirty thirty two.
Speaker 11: Don't be giving up thirty five to forty. You know,
Speaker 11: it's that simple. It's like, man, you know, really just
Speaker 11: make a stop every once in a while, you know,
Speaker 11: make them line up and kick a field goal. It's
Speaker 11: just it is. It's totally frustrating. And they still have
Speaker 11: a lot of work to do from personnel standpoint. On
Speaker 11: that side of the football. They have some young players
Speaker 11: that they feel good about, they feel, you know, that
Speaker 11: worth developing and putting some time and energy into. But
Speaker 11: a long way to go before they rest.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: So, with that said, lab and we got about a
Speaker 1: minute with no Tree Henderson likely coming back next year,
Speaker 1: who are if you had to say, we need two guys,
Speaker 1: two guys on this defense to keep it and kind
Speaker 1: of build this thing off of and go into the
Speaker 1: drafts and go into free agency, who would you select
Speaker 1: off this current Bengals defense man.
Speaker 11: That's a good question, you know. I mean, I think
Speaker 11: I think Carters got potential at the linebacker position. I
Speaker 11: think he might hopefully, you know, develop into something I'm
Speaker 11: not talking about, you know, per aennial Pro bowler. And
Speaker 11: on the back end, they got some work to do
Speaker 11: there for sure. But yeah, that's the reason they're giving up.
Speaker 4: A number of points.
Speaker 11: You can't you can't rattle off a whole.
Speaker 1: Bunch exactly that. That's I'm in the same boat. Lab.
Speaker 1: I started to say, Oh, well, I don't know about that,
Speaker 1: but hopefully the Bengals figured out here.
Speaker 4: But laugh. We we got to run.
Speaker 3: But appreciate your time. What do you got on the
Speaker 3: show here coming up tonight.
Speaker 11: Yeah, we've got a whole plethora of reaction after the
Speaker 11: game in the locker room. We've We've got, you know,
Speaker 11: Zach Taylor talking about a couple of different segments with
Speaker 11: Zach Taylor talking about his reaction to what took place
Speaker 11: and what was good and what wasn't in during the
Speaker 11: course of the football game. We also uh talked to
Speaker 11: Miles Murphy and Orlando Brown to get offensive and defensive
Speaker 11: perspective and a whole plusor We've got a lot of
Speaker 11: sound in the post game that hopefully people would enjoy.
Speaker 3: Awesome, Lab, you're the best man, Really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: All right, man, we'll see you. Yes.
Speaker 1: Well, the only Dave Lebe, I mean, the guy watches
Speaker 1: the Bengals like every day and he's having a hard
Speaker 1: time come probably Yeah, I think I think he's had
Speaker 1: at times a breakout season. I think he's one of
Speaker 1: them trying to look for some positives here, you know,
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Speaker 1: Jason Williams and Jason. Kind of a confusing thing going
Speaker 1: on here, but a lot of Biden battles amongst the
Speaker 1: titans of broadcasts and television and entertainment. I guess Paramount
Speaker 1: is launching a bid to acquire Warner Brothers. With the
Speaker 1: latest on this from ABC are good friend, Alex Stone,
Speaker 1: Alex what is the latest with these potential huge mergers here?
Speaker 20: Yeah, so this is all to talk of Hollywood right
Speaker 20: now where I am, and President Trump is weighing in.
Speaker 20: Trump met with Netflix CEO Ted Sarandos say in the
Speaker 20: Oval office, he's calling him a great man, says that
Speaker 20: he could be a good deal, but it might be
Speaker 20: too big. But then one of the investment firms now
Speaker 20: representing Paramount and their deal, that one's led by Jared
Speaker 20: Kushner and by the way, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
Speaker 20: and Cutter as well. So big money, big political influence,
Speaker 20: all the CEOs and getting a lot very close to
Speaker 20: the President, knowing that the power that he could have
Speaker 20: getting through any antitrust concerns here. But basically Netflix offered
Speaker 20: just shy of twenty eight dollars a share, and Warner
Speaker 20: Brothers went for that unanimously. The Warner Brothers board said
Speaker 20: that is the deal. And now Paramount is saying, wait
Speaker 20: a second, we offered thirty dollars and nobody got back
Speaker 20: to us a better deal, and now they're making a
Speaker 20: hostile bid for Warner Brothers.
Speaker 11: Meeting.
Speaker 20: It appears their board today to maybe even go above
Speaker 20: thirty dollars. And today Paramount CEO David Ellison, the Ellison family,
Speaker 20: close to the president as well, was on CNBC saying.
Speaker 21: Well, we're creating by putting these two companies together.
Speaker 4: Is a real.
Speaker 22: Competitor to Netflix, a real competitor to Amazon, a real
Speaker 22: competitor to Disney, not something that is so anti competitive.
Speaker 22: There will be no more competition in Hollywood if this
Speaker 22: deal is allowed to come to pass.
Speaker 20: Now, the Paramount bid would be for Warner Brothers plus
Speaker 20: the things that Netflix does not want, HBO, HBO, Max,
Speaker 20: CNN film production, some of the film production the Netflix
Speaker 20: would not include in their deal. So with Paramount, they
Speaker 20: are spending more, but they're getting more and Warner Brothers,
Speaker 20: they made that unanimous approval of the Netflix offer. Today
Speaker 20: they are telling their shareholders it is not changing that
Speaker 20: they support the Netflix deal and they want to go Netflix.
Speaker 20: A little while ago, Netflix CEO Ted Sarandos, he was
Speaker 20: at the UBS Global Media and Communications Conference in New York,
Speaker 20: sounding like it's a done deal.
Speaker 4: It's not.
Speaker 20: It may end up being Netflix not done yet, but
Speaker 20: he's making it sound like it is.
Speaker 21: We're going into a deal that we're really excited about.
Speaker 21: We think this deal with Warner Brothers is control shareholders.
Speaker 21: I think it's good for consumers who think it's good
Speaker 21: for creators, but I think it's great for the entertainment
Speaker 21: industry as a whole, as we're creating and protecting jobs
Speaker 21: and production and guys.
Speaker 20: There are a ton of anti trust concerns around the
Speaker 20: whole thing of Netflix owned Warner Brothers. Dominic Patton, executive
Speaker 20: editor of the Hollywood side Deadline, He says, it's hard
Speaker 20: to explain what a big deal this is. The amount
Speaker 20: of content, the amount of platforms, the amount of eyeballs
Speaker 20: involved in this is megabox. On a mega level, the
Speaker 20: Netflix offer would be worth eighty three just shy of
Speaker 20: eighty three billion dollars. It would be the biggest sale
Speaker 20: of a Hollywood Studio. Ever, it would combine Netflix with
Speaker 20: the home of DC Studios, with Harry Potter, a lot
Speaker 20: of other properties. Put you take Netflix, the biggest streamer
Speaker 20: in the country and in the world, with the third
Speaker 20: biggest streamer in the country, HBO Max, and you do
Speaker 20: have more than fifty one percent of the streaming audience.
Speaker 20: So today Warner Brothers is telling shareholders do nothing at
Speaker 20: this moment, Well, it gets figured out. They're standing behind Netflix,
Speaker 20: but Paramount says that Warner Brothers should be theirs because
Speaker 20: they have a stronger offer and they would pick up
Speaker 20: more of a Warner Brothers is trying to offload here
Speaker 20: for HBO and CNN and the studio production. So at
Speaker 20: this point it's unclear how it's going to shake out,
Speaker 20: but it is. It is a big deal. Whichever way
Speaker 20: this goes, this is wow.
Speaker 3: This is head spinning, and.
Speaker 2: Hollywood would be would be completely different after this. Can
Speaker 2: you explain the reason why the lay of the land
Speaker 2: is space? Then just spacely would be two major companies.
Speaker 2: It would be Netflix and Paramount, and then that's it.
Speaker 20: I mean no, you would still have Amazon and Disney
Speaker 20: and some others that are out there, but especially if
Speaker 20: it were Netflix and Warner Brothers coming together, that would
Speaker 20: be monumental, and the size of it paramount a little
Speaker 20: less so. But if it's in Netflix and Warner Brothers,
Speaker 20: and really here in the industry world of movie making
Speaker 20: and TV making, you got two different sides. You have
Speaker 20: some who are you rooting this on? Saying the money
Speaker 20: would it would revitalize the TV and movie industry. Things
Speaker 20: would get greenlit that studios aren't paying money for right now.
Speaker 20: They think it would be great. You've got another side
Speaker 20: saying this would be the worst thing ever, that this
Speaker 20: would be a monopoly among all monopolies, where one streaming
Speaker 20: company owns so much of the content and has rights
Speaker 20: to everything and can decide make or break careers by
Speaker 20: saying nope, we don't want to do it, and you
Speaker 20: have nobody else to know to. So I mean, two
Speaker 20: very strong sides here in the Hollywood community, and it's
Speaker 20: it's a fight right now. You've got Paramount of Netflix.
Speaker 20: Netflix is kind of saying it's ours back off, and
Speaker 20: Paramount is saying not yet, that they're going to come
Speaker 20: and take the deal.
Speaker 3: Very interesting.
Speaker 1: I guess is there anything that I mean that Warner
Speaker 1: Brothers does particularly well. That makes them such a you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Are they great at this one
Speaker 1: thing where the others are or is it just the same.
Speaker 20: Well, I mean they've got a lot of content, and
Speaker 20: the content is king and all of this. You think
Speaker 20: of when Disney, we always have to say the parent
Speaker 20: company of the ABC is when they have bought properties
Speaker 20: like Marvel and others. They're going for the content and
Speaker 20: you Pixar all of that. They're going for the content
Speaker 20: and some of the technology as well, but really what
Speaker 20: they can put on their services. That's why Netflix doesn't
Speaker 20: want HBO Max. They don't want the platform. They want
Speaker 20: the rights to what Warner Brothers has made. They don't
Speaker 20: want CNN. They don't want to run a newsroom and
Speaker 20: all of the and the cost of running a news
Speaker 20: operation globally. They don't even really want the studio production
Speaker 20: because they can do that on their own, but really
Speaker 20: most of that they outsourced. They hire production companies to
Speaker 20: do it. So now that they would own all of
Speaker 20: these studios and studio production and everything else, they want
Speaker 20: the content. And we're in as paramount is saying no,
Speaker 20: we know how to run a news operation. We know
Speaker 20: how to run studios, and we do want to do
Speaker 20: all of that, and then so their offer is more encompassing.
Speaker 1: Interesting. Well, we shall see how it all develops. Alex,
Speaker 1: we really appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: I got a couple license plate stories here for you. Okay,
Speaker 1: not know this, but I guess Now in Florida they're
Speaker 1: making most license plate frames illegal. Okaym have slipped on
Speaker 1: your radar. Florida now prohibits any obstruction of license plates,
Speaker 1: making a second gree misdemeanor under House Build two fifty
Speaker 1: three and Statute three twenty Dash zero sixty one. The
Speaker 1: new legislation makes it illegal to block, cover, distort, or
Speaker 1: even slightly obscure a Florida license plate, with penalties that
Speaker 1: includes sixty days in jail or a five hundred dollars
Speaker 1: fine for knowing me driving with an obscured plate. So
Speaker 1: everybody has a lot of those little frame things and
Speaker 1: this and that, and if any of it covers up
Speaker 1: a little bit of a number or something, I can
Speaker 1: see that.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's some of those that are pretty elaborate,
Speaker 2: you know, oh yeah, you know, but like Notre Dame
Speaker 2: Alum notre you know Ohio State Buckeyes fan, or you
Speaker 2: know Ohio State Buckeyes Nay fan, but like, and some
Speaker 2: of those can kind of get a little deep and
Speaker 2: cover up sometimes definitely cut cover up what state, right
Speaker 2: the license plate is, so I can see that.
Speaker 1: So, I mean probably most of them are are harmless,
Speaker 1: but some of them are trying to obscure your license plate,
Speaker 1: whether if you're driving through an area that has tolls
Speaker 1: or you know, you know, over the cops that sort
Speaker 1: of thing. Which here's another story, and this is in Australia,
Speaker 1: but a a motorists used a technique you might see
Speaker 1: out of like Double O seven, where he essentially he
Speaker 1: had a remote controlled plate that folded down and covered
Speaker 1: his license plate. So you say, you're getting ready to
Speaker 1: go through a toll, he has a little remote control.
Speaker 3: And puts like a fake plate over the real plate.
Speaker 1: I don't even have made a fake. It looks like
Speaker 1: it was just like a like a blank just like
Speaker 1: a white piece of metal. And well they finally caught
Speaker 1: up with it because they're they're pretty smart. But as
Speaker 1: he was okay, he passed under a toll alongside of
Speaker 1: bright blue Lexus gs, he noticed something was quite right.
Speaker 1: The Lexus's license plate appeared blank. This is the cop talking,
Speaker 1: but Bo. Now the police have finally caught up to him.
Speaker 1: Police say the driver was a twenty two year old.
Speaker 1: He used a stealth plate curtain to dodge tolls. Now
Speaker 1: I've thought about that every time I go through it.
Speaker 1: By the way, I think, I think paying a toll
Speaker 1: is un American nice man In a way, I would
Speaker 1: make the argument that you know, our taxes, you know,
Speaker 1: if you're using the highway system, then you should pay
Speaker 1: into that. But that's what our other taxes are supposed
Speaker 1: to be paying for that. All of our other taxes
Speaker 1: are supposed to be paying for streets, you know, the roadways, bridges,
Speaker 1: all that stuff. But now they added to throw another
Speaker 1: tax on top of that. Because our taxes that were
Speaker 1: supposed to cover are covering fifty different other things, they
Speaker 1: shouldn't be covered. Brother, I agree with you.
Speaker 2: You go out like we did this trip out over
Speaker 2: the summer, my buddy Lee and I we took our
Speaker 2: sons out. We did a baseball trip, went to Baltimore
Speaker 2: Camman Yards and went up the Yankee Stadium, then onto
Speaker 2: the Fenway Park. So we did three stadiums East Coast
Speaker 2: and and you know, so Maryland has a toe just driving,
Speaker 2: Maryland has a toll, Massachusetts has a toll.
Speaker 1: New York has a toll.
Speaker 2: And then you start getting all those bills because it's
Speaker 2: not it's all there's no toll boost. So then you
Speaker 2: start getting those because they just take a picture of
Speaker 2: license plate. And then I made the mistake of like
Speaker 2: just being I'll pay those when I get to them, oh, no,
Speaker 2: thirty days, and that thing goes up. Well, I end
Speaker 2: up paying dog gone. I bet I end up paying
Speaker 2: well over one hundred I think it was like one
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty bucks total because I let them all
Speaker 2: like I didn't realize they they penalized you that quick,
Speaker 2: like yeah, fine or whatever.
Speaker 7: I'm like, but just.
Speaker 2: Alone though, I'm like, good lord, I mean, imagine how
Speaker 2: much money they're making with all those especially that's such
Speaker 2: a heavily populated area of the country. It's like, where's
Speaker 2: the money going now? I will say, like Maryland's Maryland's
Speaker 2: highways were smooth.
Speaker 1: There's a baby's bind. I mean those things were smoo
Speaker 1: but I mean come and and then and again again.
Speaker 1: That's great, but that that's what all the other taxes
Speaker 1: we pay I think should be going to agreed? I
Speaker 1: mean we're already paying a state gas tax, a federal
Speaker 1: gas tax. Yeah, what other gas tax or what other
Speaker 1: taxes are we paying? I'm sure California has even a
Speaker 1: local gas tax, Sure, a neighborhood gas tax. I'm a
Speaker 1: i'm a. I'm of the opinion your tax should go
Speaker 1: to roads, clean water, in a military.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 1: If you can privatize any of those. I'm mom up
Speaker 1: for listening. That's what your tax should go to. Roads, military?
Speaker 7: And what was the other one?
Speaker 4: I said?
Speaker 1: Clean water? I throw police and fire in there.
Speaker 3: Well, that's what I mean by military police fire.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, the safety aspect of Yeah, we should go
Speaker 1: to cops, firefighters, paramedics in the military.
Speaker 2: But never all be driving on smooth streets and highways
Speaker 2: all over this country and.
Speaker 1: We wouldn't have to use license plate covers like these
Speaker 1: guys say or down in Florida, I mean remote control.
Speaker 1: Come on, you decided to try that? All right, let's
Speaker 1: go ahead ject some trafficking weather.
Speaker 3: How are we looking