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Speaker 1: The show, and he's out them alongside Jason Williams and

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Speaker 1: Jason we're gonna start our show with a little breaking

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Speaker 1: Bengals news hit me.

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals head coach Zach Taylor announced that the team

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Speaker 2: has released wide receiver Jermaine Burton. Yes, the team announce,

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Speaker 2: so it has waived him.

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Speaker 3: So there's your news. How many games have you been

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Speaker 3: active this year?

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Speaker 4: Zero?

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Speaker 1: Zero? Right, yes, zero?

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Speaker 2: And then this weekend he didn't make the trip to Buffalo,

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Speaker 2: and it's like, here's the thing, man, when t when

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Speaker 2: T Higgins went down, Like, that's your prime opportunity and

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Speaker 2: he's still inactive.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's what you always tell Like I tell

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Speaker 1: my kid and kids your your coach say, look, just

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Speaker 1: just keep working because your chance will come. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you may not like the circumstances now, but something's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna get hurt. You're gonna find yourself in the game.

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Speaker 1: So just make sure you're ready for when that moment happens.

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Speaker 1: And his came and went. T Higgins was down. Could

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Speaker 1: it really use a big play wide receiver to stretch

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Speaker 1: the field and he wasn't ready to go? And now

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Speaker 1: despite many other other problems he has, and now they're

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Speaker 1: finally saying we can't.

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Speaker 2: Finally guy, Finally, you know, they moved on. And that

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Speaker 2: was the twenty twenty four third round draft pick. Off

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Speaker 2: the top of my head, yes, yes, yeah, right, thank you,

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Speaker 2: thank you, Addie. You know, they took a fly on him,

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Speaker 2: and that was obviously the buzz and Nick Saban had

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Speaker 2: had made comments like, you know, questioning him, and obviously

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Speaker 2: he had played at Alabama, he played at Georgia as well.

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Speaker 2: You know, tremendous, tremendous talent, But talent's only going to

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Speaker 2: get you so far, especially in the league, especially what

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Speaker 2: you know a little bit about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you see a bunch of guys come in

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Speaker 1: and they look like this, and they run this and

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Speaker 1: they benched this, and you're like, oh my god, this

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Speaker 1: guy's getting ready to just just tear it up. And

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Speaker 1: it doesn't happen because they're not focused, they don't have

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Speaker 1: a based of fundamentals, and they have distractions and it's

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Speaker 1: just been everything when it comes to that guy.

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Speaker 2: So I'm telling you, and you know, Mike Brown has

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Speaker 2: always been kind of known, much like his father, as

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Speaker 2: the quote great redeemer and you know, like to take guys.

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Speaker 2: They needed some help, and they hung in there with

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Speaker 2: him much longer than probably any other NFL team would have.

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Speaker 2: And finally, you know, if the Bengals have said that's it,

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Speaker 2: we're done that that I'd be surprised if this guy

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Speaker 2: you see this guy in the NFL again?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 1: Did they give a reason for why he was suspended

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Speaker 1: this weekend rather than just being inactive like every other game?

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Speaker 3: As of yesterday?

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Speaker 2: I was asking around about it and there was not

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Speaker 2: nothing was known in terms of I don't know if

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Speaker 2: I could tell and what I was told, that there

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Speaker 3: Gotcha, all right?

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Speaker 2: So he was inactive, didn't make the trip, and it

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Speaker 2: wasn't real injury related, right.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, if you're just joining us the breaking news,

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Speaker 1: wide receiver Jermaine Burton has been released by the Bengals,

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Speaker 1: and if we find out any more info in that,

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Speaker 1: we'll be sure to give it to you. So let's

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Speaker 1: pivot a little bit here, Jason to the game yesterday

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Speaker 1: in general, I mean, a heartbreaker, but you can say

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Speaker 1: the best like dual quarterback play I've ever seen. I mean,

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Speaker 2: It was almost I think thrown behind him slightly.

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Speaker 1: He broke the rule that every quarterback coach and offensive

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Speaker 1: never throw a ball late across your body across the middle.

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Speaker 3: And he did and it it always seems to work

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Speaker 2: So maybe he's in Burrow through that one to Chase

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Speaker 2: shame that we're not going to get to see those

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Speaker 2: two again in the playoffs or potentially. Yeah, the fact

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Speaker 2: get another uh January without Joe Burrow and the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: See those that, like I remember growing up watching football,

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Speaker 2: and you live for that, and I mean obviously you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like, it's just a shame that we're

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Speaker 2: be It just came down to Burrow through you know

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Speaker 2: that guy. That guy made a great play on that.

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Speaker 1: That made a great play and and I didn't hear

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Speaker 3: Like he didn't pop it enough.

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Speaker 1: No, he did not.

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Speaker 3: That made a great play. That was that was an

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Speaker 1: Burrow certainly deserves criticism for you know, how great he was.

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Speaker 1: But but I mean, throwing back to back interceptions is

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Speaker 1: Mean the loss in all this that the defense kind

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Speaker 1: much earlier. In that game, in the second half, Bengals

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Speaker 3: For yardage up the middle. I just so frustrating.

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Speaker 3: Sometime you just need a guy to just make a.

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Speaker 1: Damn play, and they don't really have that guy that

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Speaker 2: And what what should be concerning I think for Bengals

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Speaker 3: That's that tells us that we're close.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like no, no, no, no, Like you can't now two

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Speaker 2: playing at all for nine games, like, it was still

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Speaker 2: the same story your defense. It didn't matter. Your defense

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Speaker 2: Com about like, you know, Burrow has to be perfect

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Speaker 2: and it's just not possible. And and so they've put

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Speaker 2: I mean, the early season struggles last year anyway, and

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Speaker 2: it's just like they're there that we've seen enough sample

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Speaker 2: have to do something. You have to somehow, some way

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Speaker 2: get better at drafting. You have to, somehow, some way

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Speaker 2: spend some money on the defensive side, because this isn't working.

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Speaker 2: Trying to sit here and wait for Miles Murphy and

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Speaker 2: you just run it back mentality just it isn't work well.

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Speaker 1: And you're right that, you know, winning sometimes, I mean

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Speaker 1: I've seen.

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Speaker 2: It, Joe Burrow clouds their opinion. Correct, Joe Burrow, Like

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Speaker 2: you know, we say, we've said a lot, like he

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Speaker 2: that's all part of the team and that's that's his

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Speaker 2: him and the other thirty one teams don't so good

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Speaker 3: But you know he cannot. He cannot like do it all.

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Speaker 3: Did they get screwed or was it just fight?

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Speaker 2: I I that's a hard, hard question to answer. I

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: And I think the same thing I can make an

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Speaker 1: The team that I think that they should have I

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Speaker 3: All right, let's let me hear it to me.

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Speaker 2: This is just like, oh, we're gonna take our ball

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Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna make that run.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna all right, we are going to get over

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Speaker 2: Is that the talk that we're going to play BYU.

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Speaker 1: am old school and I think if you're a football player,

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Speaker 1: you should play football. I would want to play football.

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Speaker 1: But I recognize that it is, in my opinion, it's

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Speaker 1: a different time. There's the old way and there's a

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Speaker 1: new way that's happening. And right now, I think Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame is saying, okay, we go to this game, what

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Speaker 1: is our incentive to play for it? First of all,

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Speaker 1: ten guys aren't gonna be on the team. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: be going to draft or the college sport. So it's

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Speaker 1: not really like you're seeing this year's team again. You're

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Speaker 1: seeing kind of the team, which is, by the way,

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Speaker 1: happened to a lot of schools. A lot of schools

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Speaker 1: correct the top players are leaving getting ready for the

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Speaker 1: drafts or transferring or whatever.

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Speaker 3: So that's not there. And then I mean, and I said,

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Speaker 3: this just knowing.

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Speaker 1: Working for ESPN, we drive the College Football Playoff all

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Speaker 1: year long and during the season it is all about

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Speaker 1: the College Football Playoff. And I told some of my

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Speaker 1: colleagues earlier today on a call, I said, do we

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Speaker 1: how much time do we spend talking about a B

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Speaker 1: and C team?

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Speaker 4: Boy?

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Speaker 1: If they if they keep winning, they really can make

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Speaker 1: can make their way to the Liberty Bowl this year,

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Speaker 1: not one second of Mariton.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so so.

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Speaker 1: The so the so the player. Yeah, the players see that.

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Speaker 1: They're like, well, if you're telling me that the only

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Speaker 1: thing that matters is a CFP, why do you give it?

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Speaker 1: Damn if we're not, if we're not going to see if

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Speaker 1: we do it, do we play again? I also think

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Speaker 1: it's it's so transactional.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: I said this with Willie Believe it or not. One

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Speaker 3: of the incentives when.

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Speaker 1: I played was my junior year, if we made it

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Speaker 1: to the Fiesta Bowl, it was like we were gonna

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Speaker 1: get five hundred dollars in the swag. We got these

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Speaker 1: Bow's noise canceling headphones, like the first version right, and

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Speaker 1: it was like, oh my god, this is so they

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Speaker 1: gave ab out PlayStations. Oh yeah, you know, but.

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Speaker 2: Now it's like electronics, but most of a lot of

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Speaker 2: the top play everybody's got that. Now, well maybe they'd

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Speaker 2: had their own money to buy it.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing is we're talking about we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get five hundred dollars worth of for a Bowl gift.

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Speaker 1: When we got we were getting nothing. Now that gods,

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Speaker 1: you're getting paid thousands, if not tens of thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: a week. Like I care about some T shirts and

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Speaker 1: some headphones or a PlayStation when I'm making all this

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Speaker 1: money anyway, So what what where's my incentive to play

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Speaker 1: the game?

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought that up, Rock, because I think

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Speaker 2: that's part. Like they've got to find a way. And

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Speaker 2: I haven't really dove into it at all, but you've

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Speaker 2: got to They've got to find a way. Okay, So

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Speaker 2: you know how like, oh, your school makes four million

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Speaker 2: dollars for playing in the whatever, the Pop Tarts Bowl.

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Speaker 2: I'm not making every every every team's every school makes

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Speaker 2: some kind of money, you know, the payout of the Bowl.

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Speaker 2: They've got to find a way then, obviously that would

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Speaker 2: be beyond I think what the nil cap is of

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Speaker 2: the twenty one million dollars a year to each school

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Speaker 2: is allowed to give out, but they've got to find

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Speaker 2: a way. Your team makes the bowl, this is your bonus,

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Speaker 2: you know, almost like a playoff bonus. Agree in the

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Speaker 2: major leagues. In the NFL, all those guys they get

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Speaker 2: playoff bonuses. Your your team makes the playoffs, you make

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Speaker 2: a certain amount of money. Same things should happen here.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more. Maybe we won't have as many opt outs,

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Speaker 2: and I can I get opting out if you're going

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Speaker 2: to be a first second round draft pick. I don't.

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Speaker 2: I think I don't like the whole transfer portal window.

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Speaker 2: It's not necessarily the players fault. It's the date they

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Speaker 2: need to move that, move that off of there to

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Speaker 2: avoid the opt outs for transfers. So but they've got

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Speaker 2: to add in, they got to change the transfer portal date,

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Speaker 2: and they've got to add in some kind of a

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Speaker 2: you're right, that's you're right. Like guys don't want swag anymore.

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Speaker 2: Guys don't really care about oh my gosh, you're you're

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Speaker 2: we have an awesome, pristine stadium and like super cool facility.

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Speaker 1: They don't even want that.

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Speaker 3: How much money, how much money you gonna pay me? Right,

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Speaker 3: they'll go, they'll go play.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it's right, but it is because

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Speaker 1: we've created this monster and now we got to kind

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Speaker 1: of live with it. And I mean I would they

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Speaker 1: absolutely need to pay the players for the Bulls again,

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Speaker 1: which in in just in principle, I'm against, but if

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Speaker 1: they want the Bulls to keep going, they should make

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Speaker 1: it like winning team gets seventy, losing team gets thirty.

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Speaker 3: Now US season boys get after him play.

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Speaker 1: Look, this is the world we're living now. College football

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Speaker 1: is about money. We're not They're no longer hiding it.

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Speaker 1: It's out there.

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Speaker 4: Ye.

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Speaker 1: It's what drives recruiting, it's what drives transfer, portal, it's

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Speaker 1: what drives everything. Fortunately or unfortunately, we've created this monster.

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Speaker 1: So now we either got to say we've got to

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Speaker 1: keep going and keep going to the these are no

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Speaker 1: longer amateur kids anymore, keep going, or say let's just

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Speaker 1: go back to the old. And there's an argument for that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I for the go back and check the record. Ten

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Speaker 1: years ago, I was like, just keep it at a

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Speaker 1: four team playoff, okay, because realistically only four teams.

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Speaker 3: Can really be the national champion, right, But for the

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Speaker 3: rest of the.

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Speaker 1: Teams, now some of the bowls and the conference titles

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Speaker 1: still matter, and more teams can feel like we had

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Speaker 1: a successful season. Right now, it is if you don't

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Speaker 1: make the College Football Playoff, or if you're some scores,

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Speaker 1: you don't win it, you're a farewell, you're a failure.

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Speaker 1: Or it used to be like, Okay, maybe in Ohio

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Speaker 1: you're at Ohio State, you're in a down year.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you're not gonna win the title.

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Speaker 1: But you know you could go to the Gator Bowl

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Speaker 1: and win an opponent or win or play the or

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Speaker 1: or playing the Big Ten title game, and boy, we

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Speaker 1: won the Big You know who won the SEC four

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Speaker 1: years ago? Who won the American? Who won the ACC

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Speaker 1: four years ago? You can't tell me because people don't

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Speaker 1: don't care. What a mess it is a mess. I

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Speaker 1: I mean there's other things to talk about.

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Speaker 2: I know we're gonna get to break, but I mean

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Speaker 2: the Notre Dames Athletic or Pete Levaukua coming out basically

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Speaker 2: saying that the ACC has done permanent damage to their

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Speaker 2: relationship our name, and I guess, you know, I don't

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Speaker 2: know if the commissioner came out, I didn't see, but

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Speaker 2: he was on I saw the clip on Dan Patrick

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Speaker 9: then we boat race ten teams in a row and

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Speaker 9: then they lose to pathetic Florida State team. You know

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Speaker 9: that so much SEC bias. And I know you can't

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Speaker 9: really rail on your other employer, but there is a

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Speaker 9: lot of BS that goes along with the ESPN's SEC

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Speaker 9: bias to lobby for Bama.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I might want to check your history,

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Speaker 2: by the way, on that. When you call Marshall pathetic,

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Speaker 2: you might want to check your history on that.

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Speaker 9: No, Marshall's a fine team. I was just I was

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Speaker 9: just ribbing you there, Jason, while I had you on

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Speaker 9: the air. So I just got to get a new

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Speaker 9: play by play announcer, you know, getting a little more

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Speaker 9: excited when you pull those great upsets off.

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Speaker 3: All right exactly?

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Speaker 2: Northern Illinois, Yeah, Stanford USC, Yeah, Yeah, I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 3: Well, Dave some great points and thank you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just think that, as I said, I I don't

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Speaker 1: think I mean say it out loud Notre Dame is

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Speaker 1: not playing with a team that they have in jam

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Speaker 1: you and Tulane are.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 1: I have no problem with it in functionality though, because

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Speaker 1: that's how it's set up now, but should that be

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Speaker 1: how it is? And you know, my biggest argument is

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Speaker 1: still that Alabama got they beat on the final, last

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Speaker 1: second play. They beat a five and seven Auburn team

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Speaker 1: that had an interim coach, and then they go out

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Speaker 1: and get killed by Georgia or and and look awful

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Speaker 1: doing it, and that gave.

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Speaker 3: Him their third loss. That means something.

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Speaker 2: As the guy who as a Marshall fan who champions

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Speaker 2: the little guy, the way this thing is set up

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Speaker 2: right now, I would say no, Like, if you're gonna

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Speaker 2: you've set it up to where you should be the

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Speaker 2: best twelve teams. Now, if you were to expand that,

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Speaker 2: not obviously to an NCAA tournament, but if you were

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Speaker 2: expand it out relatively speaking in football, then I think

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Speaker 2: you probably there. There's where you got to let little

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Speaker 2: guys in. But this thing is all over the map.

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Speaker 2: It's I don't get it and the committee, that to

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Speaker 2: me is what needs to be changed, and we got

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Speaker 2: to run. I think having a good call with some

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Speaker 2: of those folks that they're unpaid volunteers that are supposed

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Speaker 2: to be really dialed into this, and I'm not sure

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Speaker 2: they are. All right, Let's go ahead and we've got

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Speaker 2: the news and Steve Gooden is up next. Seven hundred

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Speaker 14: Growing calls for footage of a boat strike to be

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Speaker 14: made public With the four o'clock report, I'm Sean Gallagher

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Speaker 14: breaking now. There are some questions surrounding that video of

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Speaker 14: what they say was a drug trafficking vessel. Dozens of

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Speaker 14: There are mixed messages coming out of the Trump administration

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Speaker 14: on whether to release that video.

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Speaker 15: Last week, the President said that he would support the

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Speaker 15: release of the video. Our colleague Selena Wang asked him

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Speaker 15: about this, and the President said, I don't know what

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Speaker 15: are not hearing that same message from the Defense Secretary

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Speaker 15: Keete Hegseth over the weekend. His comments on releasing the

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Speaker 15: video were far more noncommittal. Hegg Seth said, whatever we

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Speaker 14: ABC News is Karen Travers now the latest traffic and

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Speaker 14: Today we'll see clouds increase the lowdown to twenty one

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Speaker 14: Center Clairemont County Public Health says the preliminary lab results

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Speaker 14: Around seventy black vultures were found to cease, with two

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Speaker 14: Investigators have said that there was no trench box in

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Speaker 1: All right, our number two rocking alongside Jason Williams and

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Speaker 1: Jason the heavy sports time of year. But maybe a

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Speaker 1: little bit buried was the news that came out late

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Speaker 1: last week about our mayor.

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Speaker 3: I have to have puerival having some call it financial issues.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: Seemingly, you're a good friend, that's right, Me and him

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Speaker 1: big good friends.

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Speaker 2: Now you him and will you guys go out to dinner? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but you guys got like a quarterly dinner.

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Speaker 1: I would do it. I have lots of information I

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Speaker 1: would like when I covered I always enjoyed talking at

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Speaker 1: he was always accessible and enjoy talking to him. He

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Speaker 1: may be accessible, but he's not now his finances right

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Speaker 1: now because apparently I guess, not once but twice he's

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Speaker 1: had cars that have been repossessed or in danger getting repossessed.

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Speaker 1: Also possibly some things with you know, with his house

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Speaker 1: and the rent on that, and and I guess. Look,

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Speaker 1: and one hand, it's look what happens to someone in

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Speaker 1: their private businesses, that's fine. But on the other hand,

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Speaker 1: this is a guy that's in charge of major financial

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Speaker 1: decisions for our city have some problem. Look not a

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Speaker 1: good look.

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Speaker 2: You're in charge, you're in charge of what over a

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Speaker 2: billion dollars budget taxes and you're you know, you're making

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Speaker 2: decisions on you know what, how much money to put

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Speaker 2: in the streets and all kinds of different programs and

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Speaker 2: you can't even have your own financial house in order.

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Speaker 2: That is not a good look. You're not sure you're

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Speaker 2: you're in the right job.

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Speaker 1: Great, No, that's what we want to discuss. We bring

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Speaker 1: on our heavy hitter. Look attorney here, Steve Good and

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Speaker 1: Steve welcome to the program.

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Speaker 4: How are you fantastic? How are you?

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Speaker 1: We are good? Steve so, so, what did you make

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Speaker 1: when you saw are making a big too big of

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Speaker 1: a big deal this? Are people making a big deal

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Speaker 1: of this and maybe just trying to take a shot

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Speaker 1: at the mayor? Should we let this go? What's your thoughts?

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Speaker 17: Well, my first thought is Cincinnati just has a weird

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Speaker 17: I mean, if you go back to Jerry Spring oh yeah,

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Speaker 17: and the prostitute, I mean that's kind of what how

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Speaker 4: So God God rest his soul.

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Speaker 17: So I don't know what it is about mayors and

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Speaker 17: Cincinnati and bounce checks. But it's it's in the water

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Speaker 17: over there, I guess. But I mean, are we making

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Speaker 17: too big of a deal about it? I mean the

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Speaker 17: short answer is, you know, you know, I don't know

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Speaker 17: that anyone's making that big a deal about it. It's

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Speaker 17: a very weird circumstance. No one should ever celebrate anybody

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Speaker 17: having personal financial issues, if indeed that's what's going here.

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Speaker 4: I'm not crowing about that.

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Speaker 17: I mean, it's if he really is having problems, that's

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Speaker 17: that's terrible.

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Speaker 4: I know, he lives in a very nice house.

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Speaker 17: He lives actually vert near me on a private street,

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Speaker 17: and you know, it doesn't make a lot of sense.

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Speaker 17: But but I'm concerned about two things here. I guess

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Speaker 17: number one is his story about what happened just doesn't

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Speaker 17: make any sense. I mean, he's basically saying he had

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Speaker 4: For the auto pay.

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Speaker 17: Anyone who's ever paid a car loan knows that when

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Speaker 17: you do auto pay, which I do, you get multiple

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Speaker 17: emails saying, hey, the money's coming out. The money has

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Speaker 17: or written notices and all kinds of things. So the

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Speaker 17: idea that you just might miss a payment or two

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Speaker 17: and they come take your car, that's not the way

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Speaker 17: it works from a legal standpoint in Ohio. So his

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00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 17: story on its face doesn't make sense and it really

875
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 17: looks like dissembling. The other issue I have is this

876
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 17: is when we look at our very recent history at

877
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 17: city Hall, we had at least two of the council

878
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 17: members who serve federal prison time, mis Stynard and Jeff

879
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 17: Past were essentially bribed because of their personal financial situation.

880
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 17: When the word is out that you need the money,

881
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 17: the vultures just send. And I think that is that

882
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 17: is an even bigger problem that we have. No one's

883
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 17: really in a position to say no. And honestly, you

884
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 17: have this other kind of issue, which I call this

885
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 17: part of the soft corruption, which is you have people

886
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 17: in public office sort of auditioning for roles in the

887
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 17: private sector and giving favors to people that they hope

888
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 17: will employ them when they get out. So you know,

889
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 17: it's a weird thing there. I mean, I mean city

890
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 17: you know, the Mayor's job. It pays relatively wealthy. It

891
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 17: pays one hundred eighteen thousand dollars, but it's a full

892
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 17: time job. You're not allowed to have any other kind

893
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 17: of income outside that. You are rubbing shoulders of very

894
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 17: wealthy people and expected to, I guess, dress a certain way,

895
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 17: and drive a certain kind of car, and maintain a

896
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 17: certain appearance and lifestyle. And it's probably in excess of

897
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 17: what one hundred eighteen thousand dollars will buy you. So

898
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 17: I have some sympothy from that standpoint, I suppose, But

899
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 17: you know, all in other people may to work, and

900
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 17: he's going to have to find a way to make

901
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 17: it work. And it's as Jason as you said, it's

902
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 17: just a terrible look for the for the city. And

903
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 17: it does make you wonder whether, uh, there's the basic

904
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 17: financial literacy down here to make the kinds of decisions

905
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 17: that need to be made.

906
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Steve Gooden joins us, your local attorney, former Cincinnai

907
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 2: City council member. And Steve, when you were on city

908
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 2: council did and again you're in you're in that elected office.

909
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 2: Did you feel a sense of I need to I

910
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 2: need to really really make extra sure Uh you know,

911
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 2: I know you're already you know, a very responsible guy

912
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 2: and successful guy from your military career and your legal

913
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: career and your political career. But like, was there did

914
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 2: you go through all of your own personal business and say,

915
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,760
Speaker 2: all right, I really need to make sure I'm extra

916
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 2: buttoned up on all of you know, my bills and everything.

917
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: Did did you feel more of a sense of I've

918
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 2: got to be even extra careful on just those kinds

919
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 2: of things.

920
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 4: Well, you know you do.

921
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 17: And I mean, and it's and it's hard, and I

922
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 17: will say, and this is again out and nobody should

923
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 17: ever belly acher complain about being in public office. I mean,

924
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 17: it's an absolute honor straight through. But you know, but

925
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 17: I will say that there is a part of it

926
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 17: in the way we do things at the municipal level,

927
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 17: not just in Cincinnati, but throughout the big cities in

928
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 17: Ohio where you know, it is more financially challenging than

929
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 17: I think. I say, you're on city council, you get

930
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 17: a I think it's roughly sixty four thousand dollars a year,

931
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 17: but it doesign need to be a part time job,

932
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 17: and you can still do other work. And if you're

933
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 17: a lawyer, you can still do other work. But then

934
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 17: suddenly you realize that the cause of your connection to

935
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 17: the city, that you have so many conflicts and conflicts of.

936
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 4: Interest that you you you're you're not only you.

937
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 17: But your law firm sometimes or in my case, had

938
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 17: to pass on business because your the zoning cases and

939
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 17: things of that nature, because they would touch the city

940
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 17: in some way.

941
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 4: And then you end up.

942
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 17: With your you know, your partners and colleagues said it

943
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 17: to you, because everyone's losing money and losing income on

944
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 17: these things. So it's a bigger sacrifice than it might seem,

945
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 17: particularly you know, if you're used to making more than

946
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 17: sixty thousand dollars a year and they're living on that,

947
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 17: so you really do have to be careful and you can.

948
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 17: You know, there could be more of a sacrifice to

949
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 17: it than it might seem. That's what happened to you

950
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 17: have Pastor. He lost his private sector job due to

951
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 17: a conflict at the city and wasn't able to find

952
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 17: another one, and he had a house with four kids

953
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,919
Speaker 17: and couldn't make it work for sixty some thousand dollars,

954
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 17: or at least that's what I believe he told the

955
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 17: court at his.

956
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: Plea, Steve, you make some great points here, and you know,

957
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 1: if you're if you're af tab and again not saying

958
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: he would do this, but you know, during the course

959
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: of your days, your weeks, your months on the job,

960
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: you're rubbing shoulders with Bob Cassolini and one of the lenders,

961
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: and you know, having lunch with John Barrett, and you're

962
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: looking around like, God, these guys are living a certain

963
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,959
Speaker 1: way and I'm not there, but I you know, there's

964
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 1: everybody has that pressure to keep up with the owns is. Again,

965
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: everyone faces that to some degree, but when you're in

966
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: public office, it's even more of a potentially compromising situation.

967
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: If you would act on those things and try to

968
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: live above your means and and do things where you

969
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: might be tempted to, you're gonna have more people coming

970
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: up to you to tempt you with things than the

971
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: average person would be.

972
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 17: No, that's exactly right. I mean, you know, you're you're

973
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 17: in a you're often in a you know, you're you're

974
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 17: in a time X job, rubbing shoulders.

975
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 4: In a role X world. You know, so it's uh,

976
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 4: you know, it's.

977
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 17: A very it's a it's a very different sort of thing.

978
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 17: And and you know, and and you know, we do

979
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 17: regard our mayors uh as sort of being you know,

980
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 17: you know, the head of the city in a lot

981
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 17: of ways, and uh And the pressure to look and

982
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 17: dress and act a certain way. And you know, I say,

983
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 17: drive a certain kind of car and go out to

984
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 17: certain places is pretty considerable there too. And there are

985
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 17: limits as to what you can use your campaign dollars

986
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 17: on these day. So so the you know, the pressure

987
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 17: is pretty extraordinary. And I would imagine and again I

988
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 17: don't know what the circumstances are here.

989
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 4: I don't know.

990
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 17: I cannot speculate as to his true of the mayor's

991
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 17: true personal finances, but he would not be the first

992
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 17: public official to get himself into trouble, either financially or ethically,

993
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 17: trying to chase this image of prosperity that you know

994
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 17: that you sort of feel a peer pressure to present.

995
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 2: Steve sid Kevin Aldridge wrote a nice piece about this

996
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 2: in the Inquire Since any dot Com. I'm basically just saying,

997
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 2: like this just his spin and like, you know, kind

998
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: of like not buying the spin.

999
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: Here is it?

1000
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 2: Your read on this is that you know the AFT

1001
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 2: tab is not being is forward about or he's being

1002
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 2: he's too concerned.

1003
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: About being.

1004
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: Open and transparent about this out of embarrassment even is

1005
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 2: there is there an element of embarrassment here for him?

1006
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 2: Do you think that is why he's just saying, like, hey,

1007
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: it was this carelessness because you're right, like you know

1008
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 2: everything I've read and you said it earlier, like you know,

1009
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 2: you this is not a get you get a call, Hey,

1010
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 2: we're coming to repossess your car here in a couple

1011
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 2: of hours. I mean, this is a months long, weeks

1012
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 2: long thing where you're getting letters and emails and yeah calls,

1013
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 2: and you just think ultimately he's embarrassed by it and

1014
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 2: doesn't want to just sort of come out and say.

1015
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 17: That, well, you know, I mean my mother used to

1016
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 17: say to me one time I got in trouble for

1017
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 17: something in high school, and she just said, look, going

1018
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 17: forward in the future, just say the answer all questions

1019
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 17: with yes, no.

1020
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 4: Or none of my business.

1021
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 17: And he should have probably said none of my business

1022
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 17: on this one, yeah, or none of your business. I

1023
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 17: should say, you know, to to the public because its story.

1024
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 17: You know, his answer really doesn't make any kind of sense.

1025
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 17: There's a quote issue with the auto pay and again

1026
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 17: I based this.

1027
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 4: I used to the.

1028
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 17: Law firm where I used to work did a significant

1029
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 17: amount all we call creditors rights litigation or actually, you know,

1030
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 17: chasing people from bad.

1031
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 4: Loans, including bad car loans. I know the process.

1032
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 17: There are many, many, many notices that you receive before

1033
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 17: it gets to that state. And again, I'm someone right

1034
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 17: now who is paying a car payment every month on

1035
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 17: auto pay. I get an email a couple of days

1036
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 17: before the payment is to come out, which is basically like, hey,

1037
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 17: make sure there's enough money in there, and then I

1038
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 17: get a receipt once the money comes out. Again, so

1039
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 17: you get two emails every month. And I would think

1040
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 17: most people get it this way. I'm sure you could

1041
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 17: set it up for text or whatever. It's just the

1042
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 17: way we do business now as individuals. So the idea

1043
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 17: that you could fall multiple payments behind not notice it,

1044
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 17: miss all the notices, miss the written notices, I mean

1045
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 17: none of that really makes a lot of sense. And

1046
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 17: again you know the answer for him, should you know me? Well,

1047
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 17: then either like look I'm having some issues or I

1048
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 17: mess this up, or really it's a private affair, I'll

1049
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 17: deal with it.

1050
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,439
Speaker 4: I think people would have accepted.

1051
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 17: That better than this sort of you know, clearly sort

1052
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 17: of you know, strangely worded state that really just doesn't

1053
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,479
Speaker 17: comfort with anybody's in a regular experience as a human

1054
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 17: being and buying a car these days.

1055
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 1: Well, moving forward, Steve, my answers to any question, yes, no,

1056
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: or none of your damn business. That was sound advice.

1057
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: I really appreciate that.

1058
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 17: Love that there might have there might have been a

1059
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 17: girl involved in that, say, nineteen ninety seven, it was

1060
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 17: and it was just kind of like she was just like,

1061
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 17: maybe there's some stuff I don't want to know.

1062
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: Steve exactly. Well, Steve, this is a great insight, man,

1063
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: I really really appreciate it. Thank you so much.

1064
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 4: Hey, take care.

1065
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 3: Thanks Safety local turning, Steve Gooden joining us.

1066
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: I think he makes a great point, and that's you know,

1067
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: I've always said that, you know, if you're going to

1068
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: run for public office, office, any public office, yep, you

1069
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: need to either have all the money or none of

1070
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: the money. In other words, you need to have an

1071
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: exorbitant amount of money where you don't need to worry

1072
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: about making any more or what your financist is, or

1073
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 1: have nothing where you don't miss anything, you're not living

1074
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 1: a certain lifestyle. It's it's the people that where the

1075
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: majority of people are where they're they got a decent

1076
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 1: amount of living they're going, but it's not enough where

1077
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: I can just quit my job and all of a

1078
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: sudden if you're going you take say a Cincinnati City

1079
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: council job and it pays fifty which is.

1080
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 3: Okay, but you know, depending on your situation. You got

1081
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 3: four kids at home, you know, fifty is a little

1082
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 3: a little harder.

1083
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,280
Speaker 1: So you gotta you know, I mean, it is interesting

1084
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: to see how Yeah, and that's why I think a

1085
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 1: lot of people don't choose to go into it, because

1086
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,879
Speaker 1: they're like, well, I can't retire, but I'm also I'm

1087
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: living at a certain status level that I need to maintain,

1088
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: and I think that's where these folks find themselves.

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Speaker 2: That was a great e a great explanation from Steve

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Speaker 2: Gooden too, Like you know that the mayor you cannot

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Speaker 2: have another job outside of that, right, but on council

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Speaker 2: you can. That was interesting how he explained balancing you know,

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Speaker 2: your sixty thousand dollars year council job with trying to

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Speaker 2: do other work outside of that, depending on what that is.

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Speaker 2: You know, well, I have to, you know, super duper

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Speaker 2: careful with to sell the conflict of interests.

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Speaker 1: And well that's what he said. Yeah, you can technically

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Speaker 1: have a job, but most you can't because there's always some.

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Speaker 2: Sort of unless you at minards or something. And you

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Speaker 2: know that's one other thing too, I'd add real quick too.

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Speaker 2: I think it probably is an interesting position for aft have.

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Speaker 2: Pure of all, this guy was very successful lawyer. He

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Speaker 2: was at Procter and Gamble for many years. He's been

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Speaker 2: in uh elected office now for a while. The clerk

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Speaker 2: of courts. I don't know what the clerk of courts

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Speaker 2: makes or whatever, but you know, I'm sure there's a

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Speaker 2: thought of him, like, hey, there was a lifestyle that

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Speaker 2: he was once at. And again that's his personal business.

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00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 2: But you know this isn't Procter and Gamble lawyer kind

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Speaker 2: of money, right, And.

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Speaker 1: You still got the same friends you were rolling around with,

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Speaker 1: and now you got even you're you're moving around with

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Speaker 1: the big movers and shakers of the town who are

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Speaker 1: millionaire billionaire types and you're kind of feeling need to

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Speaker 1: keep up. Very interesting, but we'll keep our sights on

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Speaker 1: that what happens moving forward, all right, let's check some

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Speaker 1: Williams and Jason we have more. Bengal was breaking news

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00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: hit It.

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Speaker 2: Defensive end Trey Hendridson is set to undergo season ending surgery.

1161
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 2: Undergo quote muscle core surgery, sorry, core muscle surgery. According

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00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 2: to ESPN's Adam Schefter, Henderson has been out since he

1163
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 2: aggravated the injury in Week eight against the Jets. He

1164
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 2: originally got hurt in that Week six game at Green Bay.

1165
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 2: He had a he had a I guess it's a

1166
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 2: hip injury. So so he's getting surgery. He is getting surgery.

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00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 2: According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, that would put him out

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00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 2: six weeks, which.

1169
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 3: Is the rest of the Sea this season. Okay, but

1170
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 3: your thoughts, your comments.

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00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 2: My thought A is that I legit think he's hurt obviously,

1172
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 2: and I've always thought that. I know some people were

1173
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 2: questioning whether it was just the fact the team wasn't

1174
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 2: playing well, he had that big contract squabble. Was he

1175
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 2: kind of nursing and it was he just sort of

1176
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 2: not nursing it, but like kind of you know, taking

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00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 2: his good old time to come back right now. I

1178
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 2: think Trey Henderson is a guy who loves to play football,

1179
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 2: and if he's healthy or close to healthy, I think

1180
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 2: he's going to be out there. I think this was

1181
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 2: a legit injury that was keeping him off the field. Now,

1182
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I think we've seen the last of Trey

1183
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 2: Hendrickson in Cincinnati. I would think this, yeah, miss he

1184
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 2: did that one year, he redid his contract for one

1185
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 2: season and.

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Speaker 3: What do you how much do you make this year?

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Speaker 2: I'd have to go back and look at that les

1188
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 2: audios off the top of his head, you know, And

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Speaker 2: here it is. It's in this story I'm reading since

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Speaker 2: dot Com. In August, Henderson received a fourteen million dollar raise,

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Speaker 2: bringing his salary for the twenty twenty five season to

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Speaker 2: thirty million him.

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Speaker 1: So he's just tough. I mean, says a lot of

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Speaker 1: money for you know, little very little production. But look,

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00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: that's sway it is in the NFL. I had injuries that,

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00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: you know, someone on the outside could say, oh, well,

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00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: how come he can't play through a torn calf? Well,

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00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: let me tell you, you know, it's so yeah. I

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Speaker 1: always hesitate to really get into that. I always did

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Speaker 1: think it was weird with Trey how I never felt

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Speaker 1: like he was a favorite amongst his teammates. And maybe

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00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: that doesn't matter. There's guys I know that were great

1203
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: players that you know, a lot of guys didn't like him,

1204
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 1: but I certainly feel that way. I don't feel like anybody,

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00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: no one ever really came to his defense like or

1206
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: no one ever like during the contract if you no

1207
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Speaker 1: one was ever like we need to pay trade because

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Speaker 1: he's the he's the heart and blood and soul of

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Speaker 1: our team. Never felt like that was the case, which

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00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: again isn't right right or wrong. I just think it

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Speaker 1: is the fact though I think Trey operated in US

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Speaker 1: in kind of a silo. I don't think he was

1213
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Speaker 1: overly liked, but I don't think he was disliked either.

1214
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: I think it was just like it's all business and

1215
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: that guy's a you know, he plays hard and he

1216
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: wants to be out there. But I don't think he

1217
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: was a guy who was you know, all the guys

1218
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: wanted to hang out with him, and all the guys

1219
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 1: really looked to him as a leader. And I certainly

1220
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 1: thought when you know, they named him a team captain

1221
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: this year, which I thought was like, he's not really

1222
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Speaker 1: a team captain type of guy. And I thought it

1223
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 1: was a bad look when he showed up at what

1224
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: the mini camp. I believe it was when he was

1225
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: in his contract dispute, and then all the all the

1226
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: reporters gathered around and he just blasted the front office

1227
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: essentially in the Bengals. I'm like, eh, I don't think

1228
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: that's team captain kind of stuff.

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 2: I get it, like you're you're in a dispute. That's

1231
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 2: the business side of this, Okay whatever. I still don't

1232
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Speaker 2: think a team captain kind of caliber guy is doing that.

1233
00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I can get, like, you know, a very calculated criticism

1235
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Speaker 2: here and there of things that are going on, as

1236
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,919
Speaker 2: long as you're owning it yourself the way Joe Burrow does.

1237
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow will if you read.

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01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 2: Between the lines and some of the things he says,

1239
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 2: he'll criticize the organization, but he lumps himself in with

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01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 2: that as he's part of, Yes, I've gotta I've got

1241
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 2: I've got to be better, I've got to you know,

1242
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 2: this is part of you know, it's it's us here,

1243
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 2: It's not them, it's us. And to me, that's that's

1244
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 2: team captain kind of comments. But Trey Hendrickson, I, I

1245
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, full disclosure. I was in that

1246
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 2: camp where I thought they needed to really get him

1247
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 2: under a multi year contract. But uh, you know, certainly

1248
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 2: there are a lot of others and in our media

1249
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 2: who said, nah, he's getting old, and you know, the

1250
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 2: the production falls off and here he is. I don't know,

1251
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 2: I don't know if this has really to do with

1252
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 2: his with age. And you're right. I mean, I'm glad

1253
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 2: you brought that up about injuries, because you always gotta

1254
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 2: be careful about injuries. Like I learned this earlier in

1255
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 2: my career writing career, Like you know, it's.

1256
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Speaker 1: Tough to.

1257
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Speaker 2: Everybody has a different threshold for pain and what they're

1258
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 2: going through and like, how how was it for me

1259
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 2: as a as a reporter or whatever to like, you know,

1260
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 2: really you gotta be really careful and think really hard

1261
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,320
Speaker 2: and talk to the people, talk to a lot of people,

1262
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 2: including the athlete about you know, when you're reporting on injuries,

1263
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 2: you know besides just a generic.

1264
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: Hey, this was the news of Hayes out injury. I think,

1265
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: especially for me when it comes to lower bodies slash

1266
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: core injuries, because if you if you can't move out there,

1267
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: I've been there. When I'm I feel like I'm moving

1268
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: at seventy percent of my best against guys that are

1269
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: the top in the world, and that's a that's a

1270
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 1: that's a way to get really hurt. Now, upper body stuff, okay,

1271
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: you know certain positions, I think you should try to

1272
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: suck it up and play if you can, But especially

1273
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: lower body stuff, it's hard to really gauge exactly what

1274
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 1: they're going through.

1275
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 2: That reminds me though, of a Hunter Green is a

1276
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 2: guy who's been questioned for his nursing of injury, you know,

1277
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 2: extending what what are determined like medically determined to be

1278
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 2: minor injuries, Like he had a minor grade groin strain

1279
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 2: uh in this season and he stretched that thing out

1280
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:27,439
Speaker 2: of what was he out?

1281
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 1: I can't remember. He was out a long time.

1282
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 2: And you know, he got a second opinion, and the

1283
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 2: second opinion said the same thing as the first opinion.

1284
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 2: And it's a groin, Like, it's not an elbow, it's

1285
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 2: not a shoulder, it's like, it's a groin. It's a

1286
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 2: minor injury. And it's like yeah, And then came in

1287
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 2: he's coming because that's not the first time that that's happened.

1288
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 2: He's come into question for that, and and again, yeah,

1289
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 2: that's that's one athlete and I'm not you know, I

1290
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 2: think you have to always look at every guy or

1291
01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 2: woman that you're covering, and it comes the injuries, is

1292
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 2: you know, their own their own saying and their own deal,

1293
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 2: Like you know, oh well that well, that injury for

1294
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 2: that guy, he kept him out, you know, two months.

1295
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 2: But that other guy had that same injury, so to speak,

1296
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 2: and he was only out for a week.

1297
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that can be different. Yes, I do think. You know,

1298
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 1: there's where Hunger Green may follow though, is you know,

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Speaker 1: waiting until he is one hundred percent. And I think

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Speaker 1: as an athlete and a pro athlete, you're getting paid money,

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Speaker 1: you gotta I always say, you know, you under certain circumstances,

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Speaker 1: you can't be afraid to take a needle. You gotta

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Speaker 1: go out there and play.

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Speaker 2: And that's been questioning on the on the inside of

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Speaker 2: the Reds organization. I think that's exactly. It's, you know,

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Speaker 2: the grind of a you know, six seven month season

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Speaker 2: with spring training and all that, Like you're never going

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Speaker 2: to be really one hundred percent, right, I mean, but

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Speaker 2: I think that is his life.

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Speaker 1: I want to, I want to, I want to be.

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent, but I'm like, yeah, well I gotta

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Speaker 2: play through some pain and again, I don't know what

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Speaker 2: your threshold for pain is because it's not my body man,

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Speaker 2: you know, like I guess the argument would be, and

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Speaker 2: until the Reds, I would him accountable for that?

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Speaker 1: I mean, if they're you know, if he if he's

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Speaker 1: probably sitting there saying, well, the Reds you know, at

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Speaker 1: least haven't really seemed to threaten to trade me or

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Speaker 1: get rid of me if I don't tough en up,

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Speaker 1: so just keep doing it. You know, if people respond

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Speaker 1: to incentives, and if he hasn't been incentivised to hurt

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Speaker 1: his ass up and get healthy.

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Speaker 3: You know what, why was he come back? Well that's

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Speaker 3: a great that's a great point.

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Speaker 4: Rock.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if it's that, but something to

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Speaker 1: think about. All right, let's go ahead and check some

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Speaker 1: trafficking weather. How are we looking.

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Speaker 4: Right now? There's still let you.

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Speaker 5: Know, from the you see health traffic center, you won't

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Speaker 5: find comprehensive care. So pros will make sure best tomorrow possible.

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Speaker 5: Bomb this care for better outcomes, expect more. You see

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Speaker 5: health dot com. We've got a pretty big delay over

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Speaker 5: an hour on two seventy five west bound at Hamilton

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Speaker 5: with a crash kicking up two lanes and delays back

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Speaker 5: to Springfield Pike. The accident finally has cleared two seventy

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Speaker 5: five westbound after Loves with Madeira still about a five

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Speaker 5: minutes so down to seventy five east bound after eleven

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Speaker 5: in the road crash now just clearing.

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Speaker 1: Getting that update.

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Speaker 5: Seventy one north bound Montgomery to Ronald reag And Cross

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Speaker 5: County Highway. Accident takes up the left lane. We picked

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Speaker 5: up a crash on the exit ramp too, is seventy

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Speaker 5: five southbound. The off ramp to westbound two seventy five

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Speaker 5: in Kentucky at seventy five southbound after Turfway, where we

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Speaker 5: have the right shoulder blocked, and so it downs back

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Speaker 5: to Buttermilk Pike. My bricks repped to use Radio seven

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Speaker 5: hundred double d WELLW in the.

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Speaker 1: Forecast tonight a few passing clouds, winds light and variable,

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Speaker 1: a low of eighteen degrees, and then tomorrow's some am

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Speaker 1: clouds but sun in the afternoon. The HIG will be

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Speaker 1: forty Right now it is thirty three news Radio seven

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Speaker 1: hundred WLW.

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Speaker 7: Is it true. Tom Brenneman was the bass player in

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01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 7: a punk band called Mush Potato that is mostly not true.

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01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 7: Is it true that Tom Brenneman can speak to dolphins,

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01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 7: but tuesdays not too will because of their attitude? It

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Speaker 7: sounds possible, but not true. He said, true that listening

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01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 7: to Tom Brenham and makes your morning better. That one

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Speaker 7: is true.

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Speaker 19: Please join me in the morning for the latest news, weather, traffic, sports,

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01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 19: at a truck load more to get your day started

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01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 19: right Tom Brenham and Tomorrow morning at five am on

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Speaker 19: seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 8: the more Linelogger House.

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Speaker 6: Experience the Magic of Serbadi Cincinnati, Chris Kindlemarket at the

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Speaker 6: more Line Logger.

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Speaker 1: Eddie's out alongside Jason Williams and Jason even after a

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Speaker 1: day with the Bengals fall to the Buffalo Bill's thirty

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Speaker 1: nine to thirty four. Lots of breaking news around Begledom

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Speaker 1: and to talk about that, we'll bring on our good

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Speaker 1: friend David Laughing. We always enjoy, enjoy speaking with him

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Speaker 1: every Monday and Lap. Let's start with this. The news

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01:06:55,920 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 1: earlier around three o'clock came out that Jermaine Burton had

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Speaker 1: been released. What can you tell us about the Jermaine

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01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 1: Burton tenure here with the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 11: It was interesting, I guess to say the last belt

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Speaker 11: surprise waves.

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Speaker 4: Really it's it's it's a shame you have a.

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01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 1: Lap a lap. We've got a bad connection. I'm gonna

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01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 1: ask you to hang up and we'll try you back

1383
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 1: here again. If that's okay, we'll get to get a

1384
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 1: better signal here. Sometimes you gotta jostle it around you.

1385
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: It's shake your phone. It's like a Nintendo flow in

1386
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 1: the bottom of it. Everybody did that and it worked.

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Speaker 1: It worked. They swear it never works. But I thought

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Speaker 1: that we have Dave lapping back. Dave, can you hear us?

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Speaker 4: I can hear you.

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Speaker 11: Guys.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you sound crystal clear as if you're

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Speaker 1: sitting here next to the Yeah. So uh so, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so we were. I was asking about Jermaine Burt and

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Speaker 1: he was really today wasn't active for any game this year.

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Speaker 1: It just seemed like a bad situation.

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Speaker 3: What happened with that lap.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, a bad situation is a good way to describe it.

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Speaker 11: I mean, here's a guy that was drafted in the

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Speaker 11: third round. You know, played in the SEC and the

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Speaker 11: high level of football. Obviously, he's got all the physical

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Speaker 11: gifts that you want. I mean, you know, he's a

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Speaker 11: good size guy. Not a huge receiver, but you know

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Speaker 11: good size receiver size, speed ratio is strong, he's got strength,

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Speaker 11: he's got hands, can you know use catch the football

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Speaker 11: effortlessly and smoothly, puts it away, keeps it out of

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Speaker 11: harm's way. He can not only straight line speed, but

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Speaker 11: also put us foot in the ground and separate from

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Speaker 11: my defendercy he can do everything. The problem is he's

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Speaker 11: got nothing upstairs for the game. I mean, it's just

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Speaker 11: it's too big for him. And as Paul Brown used

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Speaker 11: to say, you know, if the game's too big for you,

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Speaker 11: you're not gonna be around very long. And and he's

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Speaker 11: not around anymore, and lessons be learned, for sure. Unfortunate

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Speaker 11: because here's a guy that everybody thought would maybe have

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Speaker 11: a bright future. But you know, you have to have

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Speaker 11: football IQ and IQ you know, general general education IQ

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Speaker 11: as well in order to make it work.

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Speaker 1: And it just seemed lap that they were assuming times.

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01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 1: I point to the time when t Higgins is out

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Speaker 1: hurt the first time and it's like, here's his time, right,

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01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 1: you finally get your opportunity the Bengals need a guy

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Speaker 1: that can stretch the defense. This is your time. And

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Speaker 1: if you had been studying the playbook and working on

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Speaker 1: your routes and understanding the different space and the things

1425
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 1: you need to do, the different releases you need to take,

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Speaker 1: he could have taken that and grabbed it. But it

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Speaker 1: never seemed like he was a guy right that wanted

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Speaker 1: to do the mental things that it took to be

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Speaker 1: a great pro player in the pros that you can't

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Speaker 1: just be a great athlete, you must also you know,

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Speaker 1: use your head and learn how to know the He

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Speaker 1: never wanted to do.

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Speaker 11: That again exactly. I mean, he never made any sacrifices,

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Speaker 11: you know, he never he never. He never did anything

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Speaker 11: you know that was going to maybe be a little

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Speaker 11: bit harder, something he didn't necessarily really want to do,

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Speaker 11: but was going to make him a great player. Everything

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Speaker 11: came naturally to him physically, but mentally, you know, extra

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01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 11: time with the coaches, extra study time, knows in the playbook,

1440
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Speaker 11: knows in the game plan, making sure that you knew,

1441
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Speaker 11: like you're talking about every nuance of everything that you're

1442
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 11: supposed to do. If you have to adjust your route,

1443
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 11: why and what route are you adjusting to be on

1444
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:41,480
Speaker 11: the same page. You know, Joe Burrow has tremendous chemistry

1445
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 11: with Jamar Chase and t Higgins, and it's built on

1446
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Speaker 11: trust and respect, and he had neither. For what Burton

1447
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 11: was putting out on the football field. I mean it

1448
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 11: was a third down situation. He was the third receiver

1449
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 11: and they rolled coverage and doubled both of his main guys.

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Speaker 11: I don't think he felt real comfortable about throwing the

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Speaker 11: foot faut Burton and that's that's that's too bad, man,

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Speaker 11: That's that's very sorry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she couldn't have said any better, Lap, because I

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01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 2: I think I think Zach Taylor is as good of

1455
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,919
Speaker 2: a culture coach as there is in all of football.

1456
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 2: And if that guy can't figure it out here and

1457
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 2: turn around here, I'm not sure we're going to see

1458
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:22,759
Speaker 2: that guy in an NFL uniform.

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Speaker 11: Ever, again, how would he have done with Belichick.

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Speaker 1: Switching gears?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Going down the list of news today, Trey Hendrickson,

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Speaker 2: this comes out from ESPNU that he's gonna have surgery here,

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Speaker 2: and gosh, Lap, you know, I mean, all the struggles

1464
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Speaker 2: of the defense this season and you know, not really

1465
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Speaker 2: having a fully healthy Trey Hendrickson. It may never I mean,

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Speaker 2: this may be it. We may never see him again

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Speaker 2: in the Bengals uniform as he was in the last

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Speaker 2: year of his contract. And what do you what do

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Speaker 2: you what do you think about you know, Trey Hendrickson.

1470
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Speaker 2: Is it is it time to kind of remember, well,

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Speaker 2: you know, look back on his career here and think, hey,

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Speaker 2: these are the good this was, this was this was

1473
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Speaker 2: overall really a good thing.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, that's the thing. I you know, the way it's

1475
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 11: ending is unfortunate because you know, here's a guy fifteen

1476
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 11: sax season, seventeen and a half sax season, you know,

1477
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:25,560
Speaker 11: and then all kinds of quarterback pressures and hits to

1478
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:28,599
Speaker 11: go along with it. Yeah, he was a force. I mean, uh,

1479
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Speaker 11: he was a guy that, you know, over a three

1480
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 11: to five year span, was as good as anybody putting

1481
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 11: pressure off the blind side of a right handed quarterback.

1482
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 11: And it's it's unfortunate that that it is ending this

1483
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 11: way because yeah, he's having surgery. In my understanding is

1484
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,719
Speaker 11: it's six weeks for recovery. So the season's over unless

1485
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 11: the Bengals are in the playoffs. And if they are

1486
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 11: in the playoffs, I mean a lot of rust and

1487
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 11: dustin knock off there and be a significant contributor to

1488
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 11: the playoff cause. So I think you're right. I think

1489
01:12:57,479 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 11: we're we've seen the last of Trey Henderson here in

1490
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Speaker 11: the Cincinnati Bengals uniform.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, Dave I've said, and I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if there's an argument, again said, I

1493
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:09,680
Speaker 1: think he's you know, one of the greatest, if not

1494
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 1: the greatest free agent signing the Bengals have ever had

1495
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 1: in terms of like a strict free agent signed. I

1496
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 1: remember when, I remember where I was when the news broke,

1497
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 1: and I'm like, man.

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Speaker 3: Who's I don't I don't really recall his name.

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01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 1: I looked him up, like, Okay, he had a nice

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01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 1: year there, but he was opposite uh what's his name?

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01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 1: So I don't know how good he's gonna be, But man,

1502
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:35,560
Speaker 1: he turned in some absolutely fantastic seasons right in the

1503
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 1: heart of some of those great Bengals teams.

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01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 11: Really, no no doubt about it. I mean, this guy

1505
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,719
Speaker 11: was a past rush demon. I mean he was about

1506
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 11: as good as there was in the National Football League,

1507
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 11: and the offensive coordinators lost sleep at night trying to

1508
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 11: figure out ways to uh contain him, slow him down,

1509
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 11: don't let him be a factor to his I mean

1510
01:13:56,920 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 11: he could cause turnovers, you know, knocking the ball free,

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01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 11: making the quarterback throw the ball before he wants to

1512
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 11: and therefore thrown into coverage, not putting the ball where

1513
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 11: an open target is. I mean, he was an issue,

1514
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 11: and he made his teammates better, you know, because now

1515
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 11: everybody else is one on one. You know, everybody else

1516
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 11: has a chance, to legitimate chance to If I can

1517
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 11: get past this guy, I put it on that outside

1518
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 11: shoulder with a strong move, I can I can do

1519
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 11: some damage to the quarterback. So yeah, Trey Henderson was

1520
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 11: was definitely a tremendous player.

1521
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 3: Let's talk about the positives of yesterday.

1522
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 2: Lap you were there in the snow, you and Dan

1523
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 2: calling it, And how awesome was that first half of

1524
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:45,640
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow versus Josh Allen and watching those two just

1525
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 2: incredible talents go back and forth and throw balls that

1526
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 2: you know, only maybe no other quarterbacks in all the

1527
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 2: world can can throw.

1528
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 4: It was amazing.

1529
01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 11: You know, under those conditions, it was like a snow globe,

1530
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 11: you know, down there and uh are up there in Buffalo,

1531
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:11,599
Speaker 11: and I mean the first three possessions for Joe Burrow touchdown, touchdown, touchdown,

1532
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 11: It's like, whoa, holy crap. I mean, you know that

1533
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 11: that's hard to do and in in great situations, uh,

1534
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 11: in terms of climate control and he he uh, Joe

1535
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 11: is a he's an amazing player. Unfortunately, he had the

1536
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 11: back to back uh snaps interceptions that that probably hasn't

1537
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 11: happened to him at any level in high school, college

1538
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 11: or the National Football League. So that one I think

1539
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 11: is probably gonna, you know, stay with him for a while,

1540
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 11: but he'll rebound. He hasn't w won bad performance. You know,

1541
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 11: keep him down very long. You can't in the National

1542
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 11: Football League. You know, you have to bounce back. You

1543
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 11: have to bounce back quickly. That's just the nature of

1544
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 11: the beast. And every every week you're playing the best

1545
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:57,200
Speaker 11: of the best. So uh yeah that Uh those that

1546
01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:00,080
Speaker 11: weather those weather conditions though, I'll tell you one for

1547
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,719
Speaker 11: people though that need to need to get a salute.

1548
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 11: The grounds crew. They were working their tails off.

1549
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 4: Man.

1550
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:08,639
Speaker 11: They were out there with those blowers and those brooms

1551
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 11: and they were they were working in shovels. They were

1552
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 11: getting it done, and they made the conditions as tolerable

1553
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 11: as possible, that's for sure.

1554
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was what a fun game. Lab If you're

1555
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 1: played in a snow game like that, I know you

1556
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 1: played in the Freezer Bowl, that's a different thing. You're

1557
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 1: playing in just a good old fashioned snow game like that.

1558
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:32,720
Speaker 11: Yeah, the Freezer Bowl, obviously is the first. Is the

1559
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 11: most inclement weather condition I've.

1560
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 1: Ever played at least.

1561
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was nine.

1562
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 11: Below row temperature, fifty nine below windshill.

1563
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 1: And by the way, Lap like they that happened today,

1564
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:53,240
Speaker 1: they wouldn't play the game. We've gotten softer. They would

1565
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 1: cancel that game.

1566
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:57,560
Speaker 11: I think you know, it came dangerously close. It was

1567
01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 11: like literally but then half an hour an hour of

1568
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:04,640
Speaker 11: being canceled, but they decided decided to play it. And

1569
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 11: uh yeah, I was like big hands Johnson, and this

1570
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 11: dude's got muckers on him that are unbelievable and unbelievably strong,

1571
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,719
Speaker 11: and I can't let him be grabbing me and yanking

1572
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:16,640
Speaker 11: the material, you pulling cloths off my backside.

1573
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 4: So I did.

1574
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:21,679
Speaker 11: I went sleeveless and uh and and you know, put vaciline.

1575
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 11: They'd allowed us to put vacline or exposed on your face,

1576
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 11: and and so I slapped it all over the slabbing

1577
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 11: it up and down the arms and it was so

1578
01:17:30,439 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 11: damn coll to coagulated.

1579
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 2: You know, that alone was worth your Ring of Honor induction,

1580
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 2: just that alone period period.

1581
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 11: It was crazy, It was It was crazy, nutty experience.

1582
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 1: One awesome all right. At one last thing I wanted

1583
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:49,640
Speaker 1: to ask you about. I guess T Higgins is possibly,

1584
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 1: you know, has some you know, concussion type issues or

1585
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 1: what's going on with him. It didn't look like he

1586
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:57,759
Speaker 1: came out of the game, uh in that greyish shape.

1587
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 11: Yeah, he had gaged again, you know, And you know

1588
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 11: how it is, once you start getting concussions, you can

1589
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 11: be susceptible to him. And he bounced off that turf

1590
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 11: pretty good. But man, that dude made some players, didn't

1591
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 11: he He is a freaking special player. He's got those

1592
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 11: long arms, those big hands. That one handed touchdown catch

1593
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 11: was a thing of beauty. And Joe Burrow has tremendous

1594
01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 11: confidence in him. And we're talking about trust and respect,

1595
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 11: and you know, Jamar Chase obviously has it. Dean Burrow

1596
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 11: have been doing it since the LSU days, but so

1597
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 11: does T Higgins and Joe Burrow definitely has a one

1598
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,720
Speaker 11: two punch that he feels is as good as any

1599
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 11: in the National Football League, and T Higgins is definitely

1600
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 11: a big part of.

1601
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:40,719
Speaker 20: That, no doubt.

1602
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 2: Lap And I hope these guys can get it figured

1603
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 2: out on the defensive side for next season, because a

1604
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:51,679
Speaker 2: playoffs with al Joe Burrow and T. Higgins and Jamar

1605
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:54,680
Speaker 2: Chase is a darn shame. I mean, those guys are

1606
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 2: just so fun and then some of the other great

1607
01:18:57,439 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 2: you know, the offensive line has played really well for

1608
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:05,640
Speaker 2: the most part of all season. For this offense to

1609
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 2: not be in the playoffs, it's you know Rock and

1610
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 2: I were talking earlier, is it's a real shame that

1611
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 2: we won't have the opportunity to potentially you see a

1612
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 2: rematch of those two teams yesterday in the playoffs, because yeah,

1613
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's that's fun. And the Banker's got

1614
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 2: to figure it out on defense and get back there.

1615
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:28,720
Speaker 4: Yeah they do.

1616
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 11: I mean, you know, they don't have to be top three,

1617
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 11: top five now, just maybe twelve to fifteen, you know,

1618
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,559
Speaker 11: I mean, just don't be giving up thirty five forty

1619
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:41,599
Speaker 11: points a game when your offense is scoring thirty thirty two.

1620
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 11: Don't be giving up thirty five to forty. You know,

1621
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 11: it's that simple. It's like, man, you know, really just

1622
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 11: make a stop every once in a while, you know,

1623
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:53,360
Speaker 11: make them line up and kick a field goal. It's

1624
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 11: just it is. It's totally frustrating. And they still have

1625
01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 11: a lot of work to do from personnel standpoint. On

1626
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 11: that side of the football. They have some young players

1627
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 11: that they feel good about, they feel, you know, that

1628
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 11: worth developing and putting some time and energy into. But

1629
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 11: a long way to go before they rest.

1630
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 4: Man.

1631
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 1: So, with that said, lab and we got about a

1632
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 1: minute with no Tree Henderson likely coming back next year,

1633
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 1: who are if you had to say, we need two guys,

1634
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 1: two guys on this defense to keep it and kind

1635
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 1: of build this thing off of and go into the

1636
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 1: drafts and go into free agency, who would you select

1637
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:33,599
Speaker 1: off this current Bengals defense man.

1638
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 11: That's a good question, you know. I mean, I think

1639
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 11: I think Carters got potential at the linebacker position. I

1640
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 11: think he might hopefully, you know, develop into something I'm

1641
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 11: not talking about, you know, per aennial Pro bowler. And

1642
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 11: on the back end, they got some work to do

1643
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 11: there for sure. But yeah, that's the reason they're giving up.

1644
01:20:58,360 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 4: A number of points.

1645
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:02,599
Speaker 11: You can't you can't rattle off a whole.

1646
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:06,519
Speaker 1: Bunch exactly that. That's I'm in the same boat. Lab.

1647
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 1: I started to say, Oh, well, I don't know about that,

1648
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 1: but hopefully the Bengals figured out here.

1649
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 4: But laugh. We we got to run.

1650
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:14,840
Speaker 3: But appreciate your time. What do you got on the

1651
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 3: show here coming up tonight.

1652
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 11: Yeah, we've got a whole plethora of reaction after the

1653
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 11: game in the locker room. We've We've got, you know,

1654
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:28,600
Speaker 11: Zach Taylor talking about a couple of different segments with

1655
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:31,719
Speaker 11: Zach Taylor talking about his reaction to what took place

1656
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 11: and what was good and what wasn't in during the

1657
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 11: course of the football game. We also uh talked to

1658
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 11: Miles Murphy and Orlando Brown to get offensive and defensive

1659
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 11: perspective and a whole plusor We've got a lot of

1660
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 11: sound in the post game that hopefully people would enjoy.

1661
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 3: Awesome, Lab, you're the best man, Really appreciate it.

1662
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

1663
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 4: All right, man, we'll see you. Yes.

1664
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:56,920
Speaker 1: Well, the only Dave Lebe, I mean, the guy watches

1665
01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 1: the Bengals like every day and he's having a hard

1666
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 1: time come probably Yeah, I think I think he's had

1667
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 1: at times a breakout season. I think he's one of

1668
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 1: them trying to look for some positives here, you know,

1669
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 1: Shamar Stewart, come home, come home. All right with that,

1670
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01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 20: representing Paramount and their deal, that one's led by Jared

1724
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:51,759
Speaker 20: Kushner and by the way, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia

1725
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:55,520
Speaker 20: and Cutter as well. So big money, big political influence,

1726
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 20: all the CEOs and getting a lot very close to

1727
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 20: the President, knowing that the power that he could have

1728
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 20: getting through any antitrust concerns here. But basically Netflix offered

1729
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:09,559
Speaker 20: just shy of twenty eight dollars a share, and Warner

1730
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:13,360
Speaker 20: Brothers went for that unanimously. The Warner Brothers board said

1731
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 20: that is the deal. And now Paramount is saying, wait

1732
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 20: a second, we offered thirty dollars and nobody got back

1733
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:21,600
Speaker 20: to us a better deal, and now they're making a

1734
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 20: hostile bid for Warner Brothers.

1735
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 11: Meeting.

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01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:26,759
Speaker 20: It appears their board today to maybe even go above

1737
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 20: thirty dollars. And today Paramount CEO David Ellison, the Ellison family,

1738
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:33,599
Speaker 20: close to the president as well, was on CNBC saying.

1739
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:35,719
Speaker 21: Well, we're creating by putting these two companies together.

1740
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:36,799
Speaker 4: Is a real.

1741
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:39,800
Speaker 22: Competitor to Netflix, a real competitor to Amazon, a real

1742
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 22: competitor to Disney, not something that is so anti competitive.

1743
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 22: There will be no more competition in Hollywood if this

1744
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 22: deal is allowed to come to pass.

1745
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:50,759
Speaker 20: Now, the Paramount bid would be for Warner Brothers plus

1746
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:54,639
Speaker 20: the things that Netflix does not want, HBO, HBO, Max,

1747
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 20: CNN film production, some of the film production the Netflix

1748
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:01,720
Speaker 20: would not include in their deal. So with Paramount, they

1749
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:04,879
Speaker 20: are spending more, but they're getting more and Warner Brothers,

1750
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 20: they made that unanimous approval of the Netflix offer. Today

1751
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 20: they are telling their shareholders it is not changing that

1752
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 20: they support the Netflix deal and they want to go Netflix.

1753
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 20: A little while ago, Netflix CEO Ted Sarandos, he was

1754
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 20: at the UBS Global Media and Communications Conference in New York,

1755
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 20: sounding like it's a done deal.

1756
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:23,600
Speaker 4: It's not.

1757
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 20: It may end up being Netflix not done yet, but

1758
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:27,000
Speaker 20: he's making it sound like it is.

1759
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 21: We're going into a deal that we're really excited about.

1760
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 21: We think this deal with Warner Brothers is control shareholders.

1761
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 21: I think it's good for consumers who think it's good

1762
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:38,639
Speaker 21: for creators, but I think it's great for the entertainment

1763
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:41,599
Speaker 21: industry as a whole, as we're creating and protecting jobs

1764
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:42,599
Speaker 21: and production and guys.

1765
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:44,680
Speaker 20: There are a ton of anti trust concerns around the

1766
01:26:44,720 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 20: whole thing of Netflix owned Warner Brothers. Dominic Patton, executive

1767
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:51,639
Speaker 20: editor of the Hollywood side Deadline, He says, it's hard

1768
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 20: to explain what a big deal this is. The amount

1769
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 20: of content, the amount of platforms, the amount of eyeballs

1770
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 20: involved in this is megabox. On a mega level, the

1771
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:03,720
Speaker 20: Netflix offer would be worth eighty three just shy of

1772
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 20: eighty three billion dollars. It would be the biggest sale

1773
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 20: of a Hollywood Studio. Ever, it would combine Netflix with

1774
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 20: the home of DC Studios, with Harry Potter, a lot

1775
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 20: of other properties. Put you take Netflix, the biggest streamer

1776
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 20: in the country and in the world, with the third

1777
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:19,640
Speaker 20: biggest streamer in the country, HBO Max, and you do

1778
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 20: have more than fifty one percent of the streaming audience.

1779
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 20: So today Warner Brothers is telling shareholders do nothing at

1780
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 20: this moment, Well, it gets figured out. They're standing behind Netflix,

1781
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:30,639
Speaker 20: but Paramount says that Warner Brothers should be theirs because

1782
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 20: they have a stronger offer and they would pick up

1783
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 20: more of a Warner Brothers is trying to offload here

1784
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 20: for HBO and CNN and the studio production. So at

1785
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 20: this point it's unclear how it's going to shake out,

1786
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 20: but it is. It is a big deal. Whichever way

1787
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 20: this goes, this is wow.

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01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:50,240
Speaker 3: This is head spinning, and.

1789
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 2: Hollywood would be would be completely different after this. Can

1790
01:27:57,439 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 2: you explain the reason why the lay of the land

1791
01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 2: is space? Then just spacely would be two major companies.

1792
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:06,720
Speaker 2: It would be Netflix and Paramount, and then that's it.

1793
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 20: I mean no, you would still have Amazon and Disney

1794
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:13,720
Speaker 20: and some others that are out there, but especially if

1795
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:16,960
Speaker 20: it were Netflix and Warner Brothers coming together, that would

1796
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:21,080
Speaker 20: be monumental, and the size of it paramount a little

1797
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 20: less so. But if it's in Netflix and Warner Brothers,

1798
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:28,760
Speaker 20: and really here in the industry world of movie making

1799
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 20: and TV making, you got two different sides. You have

1800
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 20: some who are you rooting this on? Saying the money

1801
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 20: would it would revitalize the TV and movie industry. Things

1802
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:42,400
Speaker 20: would get greenlit that studios aren't paying money for right now.

1803
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:44,880
Speaker 20: They think it would be great. You've got another side

1804
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:47,479
Speaker 20: saying this would be the worst thing ever, that this

1805
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 20: would be a monopoly among all monopolies, where one streaming

1806
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,719
Speaker 20: company owns so much of the content and has rights

1807
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 20: to everything and can decide make or break careers by

1808
01:28:57,920 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 20: saying nope, we don't want to do it, and you

1809
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:01,880
Speaker 20: have nobody else to know to. So I mean, two

1810
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 20: very strong sides here in the Hollywood community, and it's

1811
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:10,400
Speaker 20: it's a fight right now. You've got Paramount of Netflix.

1812
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 20: Netflix is kind of saying it's ours back off, and

1813
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 20: Paramount is saying not yet, that they're going to come

1814
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:15,519
Speaker 20: and take the deal.

1815
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:17,559
Speaker 3: Very interesting.

1816
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:20,719
Speaker 1: I guess is there anything that I mean that Warner

1817
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:25,280
Speaker 1: Brothers does particularly well. That makes them such a you

1818
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Are they great at this one

1819
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:29,639
Speaker 1: thing where the others are or is it just the same.

1820
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 20: Well, I mean they've got a lot of content, and

1821
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 20: the content is king and all of this. You think

1822
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 20: of when Disney, we always have to say the parent

1823
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:39,520
Speaker 20: company of the ABC is when they have bought properties

1824
01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 20: like Marvel and others. They're going for the content and

1825
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 20: you Pixar all of that. They're going for the content

1826
01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 20: and some of the technology as well, but really what

1827
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 20: they can put on their services. That's why Netflix doesn't

1828
01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:54,280
Speaker 20: want HBO Max. They don't want the platform. They want

1829
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:57,880
Speaker 20: the rights to what Warner Brothers has made. They don't

1830
01:29:57,920 --> 01:29:59,680
Speaker 20: want CNN. They don't want to run a newsroom and

1831
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 20: all of the and the cost of running a news

1832
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:06,519
Speaker 20: operation globally. They don't even really want the studio production

1833
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 20: because they can do that on their own, but really

1834
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:11,960
Speaker 20: most of that they outsourced. They hire production companies to

1835
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 20: do it. So now that they would own all of

1836
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 20: these studios and studio production and everything else, they want

1837
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 20: the content. And we're in as paramount is saying no,

1838
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:22,600
Speaker 20: we know how to run a news operation. We know

1839
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:25,600
Speaker 20: how to run studios, and we do want to do

1840
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:28,600
Speaker 20: all of that, and then so their offer is more encompassing.

1841
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 1: Interesting. Well, we shall see how it all develops. Alex,

1842
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 1: we really appreciate it.

1843
01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:33,680
Speaker 4: Thank you.

1844
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:37,040
Speaker 1: You got to thank Kas and Jason and other news.

1845
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 1: I got a couple license plate stories here for you. Okay,

1846
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 1: not know this, but I guess Now in Florida they're

1847
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 1: making most license plate frames illegal. Okaym have slipped on

1848
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 1: your radar. Florida now prohibits any obstruction of license plates,

1849
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:03,360
Speaker 1: making a second gree misdemeanor under House Build two fifty

1850
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 1: three and Statute three twenty Dash zero sixty one. The

1851
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:12,439
Speaker 1: new legislation makes it illegal to block, cover, distort, or

1852
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:16,680
Speaker 1: even slightly obscure a Florida license plate, with penalties that

1853
01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 1: includes sixty days in jail or a five hundred dollars

1854
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:23,160
Speaker 1: fine for knowing me driving with an obscured plate. So

1855
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:26,400
Speaker 1: everybody has a lot of those little frame things and

1856
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 1: this and that, and if any of it covers up

1857
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:31,000
Speaker 1: a little bit of a number or something, I can

1858
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:31,400
Speaker 1: see that.

1859
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:34,680
Speaker 2: I mean, there's some of those that are pretty elaborate,

1860
01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:37,599
Speaker 2: you know, oh yeah, you know, but like Notre Dame

1861
01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:40,880
Speaker 2: Alum notre you know Ohio State Buckeyes fan, or you

1862
01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:43,680
Speaker 2: know Ohio State Buckeyes Nay fan, but like, and some

1863
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 2: of those can kind of get a little deep and

1864
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:50,640
Speaker 2: cover up sometimes definitely cut cover up what state, right

1865
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 2: the license plate is, so I can see that.

1866
01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:56,240
Speaker 1: So, I mean probably most of them are are harmless,

1867
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:59,800
Speaker 1: but some of them are trying to obscure your license plate,

1868
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:02,599
Speaker 1: whether if you're driving through an area that has tolls

1869
01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 1: or you know, you know, over the cops that sort

1870
01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:08,040
Speaker 1: of thing. Which here's another story, and this is in Australia,

1871
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:12,000
Speaker 1: but a a motorists used a technique you might see

1872
01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 1: out of like Double O seven, where he essentially he

1873
01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:19,639
Speaker 1: had a remote controlled plate that folded down and covered

1874
01:32:19,680 --> 01:32:21,720
Speaker 1: his license plate. So you say, you're getting ready to

1875
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:24,720
Speaker 1: go through a toll, he has a little remote control.

1876
01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:27,880
Speaker 3: And puts like a fake plate over the real plate.

1877
01:32:28,240 --> 01:32:30,000
Speaker 1: I don't even have made a fake. It looks like

1878
01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:33,200
Speaker 1: it was just like a like a blank just like

1879
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:35,720
Speaker 1: a white piece of metal. And well they finally caught

1880
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 1: up with it because they're they're pretty smart. But as

1881
01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:43,600
Speaker 1: he was okay, he passed under a toll alongside of

1882
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:46,360
Speaker 1: bright blue Lexus gs, he noticed something was quite right.

1883
01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:49,719
Speaker 1: The Lexus's license plate appeared blank. This is the cop talking,

1884
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:54,000
Speaker 1: but Bo. Now the police have finally caught up to him.

1885
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:56,880
Speaker 1: Police say the driver was a twenty two year old.

1886
01:32:56,960 --> 01:33:01,519
Speaker 1: He used a stealth plate curtain to dodge tolls. Now

1887
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:03,400
Speaker 1: I've thought about that every time I go through it.

1888
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:06,800
Speaker 1: By the way, I think, I think paying a toll

1889
01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:12,120
Speaker 1: is un American nice man In a way, I would

1890
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 1: make the argument that you know, our taxes, you know,

1891
01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:18,840
Speaker 1: if you're using the highway system, then you should pay

1892
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:21,320
Speaker 1: into that. But that's what our other taxes are supposed

1893
01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:23,479
Speaker 1: to be paying for that. All of our other taxes

1894
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:28,599
Speaker 1: are supposed to be paying for streets, you know, the roadways, bridges,

1895
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:30,679
Speaker 1: all that stuff. But now they added to throw another

1896
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:33,160
Speaker 1: tax on top of that. Because our taxes that were

1897
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:36,360
Speaker 1: supposed to cover are covering fifty different other things, they

1898
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:42,080
Speaker 1: shouldn't be covered. Brother, I agree with you.

1899
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:45,200
Speaker 2: You go out like we did this trip out over

1900
01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:47,840
Speaker 2: the summer, my buddy Lee and I we took our

1901
01:33:47,880 --> 01:33:50,640
Speaker 2: sons out. We did a baseball trip, went to Baltimore

1902
01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 2: Camman Yards and went up the Yankee Stadium, then onto

1903
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:59,160
Speaker 2: the Fenway Park. So we did three stadiums East Coast

1904
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 2: and and you know, so Maryland has a toe just driving,

1905
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:05,519
Speaker 2: Maryland has a toll, Massachusetts has a toll.

1906
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:06,760
Speaker 1: New York has a toll.

1907
01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 2: And then you start getting all those bills because it's

1908
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:11,560
Speaker 2: not it's all there's no toll boost. So then you

1909
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:13,320
Speaker 2: start getting those because they just take a picture of

1910
01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:17,240
Speaker 2: license plate. And then I made the mistake of like

1911
01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:19,479
Speaker 2: just being I'll pay those when I get to them, oh, no,

1912
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:22,720
Speaker 2: thirty days, and that thing goes up. Well, I end

1913
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:25,120
Speaker 2: up paying dog gone. I bet I end up paying

1914
01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:28,400
Speaker 2: well over one hundred I think it was like one

1915
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:31,559
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty bucks total because I let them all

1916
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:36,080
Speaker 2: like I didn't realize they they penalized you that quick,

1917
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:39,719
Speaker 2: like yeah, fine or whatever.

1918
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:40,760
Speaker 7: I'm like, but just.

1919
01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:45,840
Speaker 2: Alone though, I'm like, good lord, I mean, imagine how

1920
01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:49,200
Speaker 2: much money they're making with all those especially that's such

1921
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:52,599
Speaker 2: a heavily populated area of the country. It's like, where's

1922
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 2: the money going now? I will say, like Maryland's Maryland's

1923
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:56,559
Speaker 2: highways were smooth.

1924
01:34:56,840 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 1: There's a baby's bind. I mean those things were smoo

1925
01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:03,599
Speaker 1: but I mean come and and then and again again.

1926
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:06,920
Speaker 1: That's great, but that that's what all the other taxes

1927
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:10,040
Speaker 1: we pay I think should be going to agreed? I

1928
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:13,120
Speaker 1: mean we're already paying a state gas tax, a federal

1929
01:35:13,240 --> 01:35:17,240
Speaker 1: gas tax. Yeah, what other gas tax or what other

1930
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:20,800
Speaker 1: taxes are we paying? I'm sure California has even a

1931
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:27,560
Speaker 1: local gas tax, Sure, a neighborhood gas tax. I'm a

1932
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:30,320
Speaker 1: i'm a. I'm of the opinion your tax should go

1933
01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:34,679
Speaker 1: to roads, clean water, in a military.

1934
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:35,320
Speaker 4: That's it.

1935
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:38,559
Speaker 1: If you can privatize any of those. I'm mom up

1936
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:43,200
Speaker 1: for listening. That's what your tax should go to. Roads, military?

1937
01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 7: And what was the other one?

1938
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:45,760
Speaker 4: I said?

1939
01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:49,000
Speaker 1: Clean water? I throw police and fire in there.

1940
01:35:49,040 --> 01:35:51,240
Speaker 3: Well, that's what I mean by military police fire.

1941
01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:53,920
Speaker 1: That's yeah, the safety aspect of Yeah, we should go

1942
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:57,680
Speaker 1: to cops, firefighters, paramedics in the military.

1943
01:35:58,160 --> 01:36:02,839
Speaker 2: But never all be driving on smooth streets and highways

1944
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:04,040
Speaker 2: all over this country and.

1945
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:06,479
Speaker 1: We wouldn't have to use license plate covers like these

1946
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:09,719
Speaker 1: guys say or down in Florida, I mean remote control.

1947
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:13,320
Speaker 1: Come on, you decided to try that? All right, let's

1948
01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:14,760
Speaker 1: go ahead ject some trafficking weather.

1949
01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:15,400
Speaker 3: How are we looking