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Speaker 1: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: All Right four or four ESPN fifteen thirty Moegger On

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Speaker 2: Opening Day Eve, we are broadcasting from the Cincinnati Loagger House.

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Speaker 3: First pitch is twenty.

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Speaker 2: Four hours and six minutes away. This place to be

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Speaker 2: jumping tomorrow. If you're not going to the game, you

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Speaker 2: could watch it here with John John. If you are

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Speaker 2: going to the game, come by and get something to eat,

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Speaker 2: get a cold one before the Reds take on the

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Speaker 2: Boston Red Sox. We've done this for years on the

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Speaker 2: day before the season starts, and this is probably why

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Speaker 2: this is one of my favorite days because we chat

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Speaker 2: with our friend Sam Lequier, who we haven't talked to

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Speaker 2: him like nearly six months, and that bothers me. It's

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Speaker 2: great to have him with us. My favorite person to

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Speaker 2: talk Reds baseball with.

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Speaker 4: Sam.

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Speaker 3: How are you?

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Speaker 5: I'm good, buddy.

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Speaker 4: You know you said six months and I don't like

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Speaker 4: it either. But I give you a breather because you

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Speaker 4: had me on several times last year, which has not

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Speaker 4: been the norm, and I appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: I say this every year.

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Speaker 2: I will have you, I will have you on every week,

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Speaker 2: I'll have you on every day.

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Speaker 3: I just don't want to abuse it. And you came

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Speaker 3: on with me.

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Speaker 2: You came on with me during the playoff push, you

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Speaker 2: came on with me during the postseason.

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Speaker 3: So like, no, I will. I will have you on

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Speaker 3: every day if you wanted.

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Speaker 4: Last year, I loved it. I just like the sound

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Speaker 4: of playoff push. I like the sound of playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 5: And hopefully or have similar conversations this year.

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Speaker 2: I hope so. But I got to start with this.

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Speaker 2: When you pitched, how often did you get blisters here?

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Speaker 4: Jeez?

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Speaker 5: had them.

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Speaker 4: I mean I had them from time to time. I

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Speaker 4: don't remember ever really missing. My dad was a huge

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Speaker 4: It seemed to work because it did because and I

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Speaker 4: University of Texas, super hot, superhumid, that they would happen

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Speaker 4: just because your fingers softened from the sweat. And they

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Speaker 4: like an iodine. It looked like that a little bit.

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Speaker 5: I didn't miss too much.

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Speaker 4: Uh, talking to my mom earlier said man, uh, Niladal

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Speaker 5: Stop doing so many dishes. I think it might be

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Speaker 3: He's just he's just.

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Speaker 4: A good husband.

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Speaker 5: He does it.

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Speaker 4: This is a lie and it softens his finger up

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Speaker 4: and he needs to get over that for a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Especially leading into Paul.

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Speaker 2: Season, we were excited about We're excited about watching guys

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Speaker 2: like Sal Stewart and Mount McClain in large part because

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Speaker 2: of the spring numbers they put up. And then there's

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Speaker 2: especially in the first half, where the spring numbers left

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Speaker 2: from your perspective, what should fans do when they try

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Speaker 2: to gauge how seriously to take a player's spring performance?

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Speaker 5: For me, not a ton.

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Speaker 5: The thing that comes from spring.

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Speaker 4: The thing is for guys that aren't completely established, if

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Speaker 5: And you'll see a lot of guys.

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Speaker 5: They're more trying to kind of work on things as

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Speaker 4: Season and for the most part, get their pitch count up.

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Speaker 4: I mean that is why spring training is the link

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Speaker 4: the reason for the season. So for Matt McClain for

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Speaker 4: there's going to be a lot of confidence coming into

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Speaker 4: For Andrew, if he would have had you know, he

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Speaker 4: a topic of conversation. So I don't put a whole

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Speaker 4: more to find out who's healthy. That's really all that

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Speaker 4: it's just a different ballgame.

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Speaker 3: Let me run.

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Speaker 2: This past year, Nick Crawl prioritized finding relievers established big

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Speaker 2: be easier to do if Caleb Ferguson was healthy. But

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Speaker 2: it feels like should allow Terry Francona to kind of

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Speaker 2: pitch when the X factor for that though, is Connor

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Speaker 4: He was I've been making notes all day, just kind

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Speaker 4: I wanted the ball in his hand, period And he

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Speaker 4: He showed it towards the end of last season, and

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty six. Again, doesn't have a big back of

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Speaker 4: that's just not going to happen. So hopefully with some

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Speaker 4: You talk to Pierce Johns, Emilio's obviously back, there's some

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Speaker 4: it's a different ballgame.

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Speaker 5: Just go out there and do what you do.

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Speaker 4: The thing that stood out to me across the board

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Speaker 5: Entirety, there was a lot.

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Speaker 4: There was way too many walks for me across the

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Speaker 4: Didn't like because all of these guys have really good

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Speaker 4: that's something that I imagine DJ Derek john so we'll address

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Speaker 4: leading into tomorrow, is look, you guys, you're in shape,

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Speaker 4: The stuff is there what makes you good, and that's

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Speaker 5: But you need to be confident.

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Speaker 3: The headlines that give.

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Speaker 2: Me your thoughts on the trio of Chase Burns, who

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Speaker 2: we got a chance to watch last year, and Rhett Louder,

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Speaker 4: Brandon looked awesome, But I'll Rett thought looked very crisp.

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Speaker 4: The fastball kind of played up for I mean, it

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Speaker 4: they thought. Brandon was really digging his feet in to becoming,

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Speaker 4: guess it would have been you know, you lose the year.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it was the second half of twenty three. Yes,

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Speaker 5: A good change up.

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Speaker 4: You know, he was a big piece of that trade

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Speaker 4: that he has the opportunity and he was going to

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Speaker 5: This is not due to injury.

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Speaker 4: He those two Rhett and Williamson, I feel have a

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Speaker 4: more advanced feel for pitching.

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Speaker 5: At the major league level than.

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Speaker 4: Chase Burns does. And who's not high on Chase Burns.

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Speaker 4: Everybody is. He can out stuff a major league lineup

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Speaker 4: know a couple sol you know, he walks a guy

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Speaker 4: more advanced feel for pitching at his age, but that's

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Speaker 4: because Hunter didn't pitch a ton, you know, coming up.

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Speaker 5: It was high school and he was a two way

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Speaker 4: But I think Chase has a good understanding of it.

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Speaker 4: I think Rhet Louder and Williamson kind of put it

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you're back, and uh, we're now going to

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Speaker 3: Show like every other week. So just be careful what

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Speaker 4: Great well when they're on the road, find me midweek

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Speaker 3: You to death.

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Speaker 2: Done all right, can't wait. Enjoy Opening Day. Thank you

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Speaker 2: as always, alright, brother the great Sam Lure. Love having

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