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Speaker 2: Now back to Mark Simon on woor.

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Speaker 1: Well, the terrible, tragic Rob Reiner situation. So it happened, Well,

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Speaker 1: But when it comes to politics, they're crazy. They're just childish,

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Speaker 1: Rob Reiner used to be a regular guest on the show.

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Speaker 1: We lost a lot of regular guests when Trump came along.

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Speaker 1: But Rob Reiner, I just want you to hear this interview.

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Speaker 1: This I just went back and found an interview from

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Speaker 1: He was a normal, nice guy. He was a brilliant director, writer, producer, actor.

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Speaker 1: So here is a conversation with Rob Reiner. Well with

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Speaker 1: the show. Rob Reiner, how are you hi?

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Speaker 2: Mark, Thank you very much, and thank you for calling

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Speaker 1: Well, you know you're one of those guys. Years from now,

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Speaker 1: They're going to be doing these tributes to you.

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Speaker 1: So or it's other Rob Reiner. The new movie is

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Speaker 2: And but my dad tells this story all the time.

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Speaker 1: Well, well, Rob Reiner, congratulations on an absolutely amazing career,

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me Mark.

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