1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:01,560 Speaker 1: I guess tend Toby. 2 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 2: That's the definition of the old college try. They're twelve 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 2: and fourteen gin number. 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 3: Two, all Vikings, Let's win this game. 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 4: It's now time to take an in depth look at 6 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 4: the state of the school. 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 3: Aaron Shatz of ESPN dot dot com put together a 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 3: list of one player from each team that could use 9 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 3: a change of scenery inlist Vikings. For the Vikings, he 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 3: listed JJ McCarthy. He said. He said this is likely 11 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 3: never going to happen because it would be ridiculous for 12 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:41,319 Speaker 3: the Vikings swim load a player who still has first 13 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 3: round upside after ten starts. However, a fresh start for 14 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 3: McCarthy with a different organization might be the best thing 15 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 3: for his career. Yes, you want a young quarterback to 16 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,279 Speaker 3: be with an offensive mind such as Minnesota coach Kevin 17 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 3: O'Connell for the purposes of his development. However, things went 18 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 3: so badly for the Vikings with McCarthy last season that 19 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 3: it might be best to get him out of the 20 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 3: shadow of Super Bowl winner Sam Darnold. Common should the 21 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 3: Vikings send JJ McCarthy away this offseason, Well, you. 22 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: Know, he kind of contradicts himself there a little bit 23 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 2: by saying, you know, you've invested this time in enemy's 24 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: with a good offensive mine, but still you should do it. 25 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 2: I mean I I I guess you could make that 26 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: argument that he tried to do. You know, gosh, it 27 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: seems like it's it's it's it's a never ending question. 28 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 2: We discussed it early off and late, and it's and 29 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: we're going to continue to. 30 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: Talk about it. 31 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: I I don't know what if you're the Vikings, every 32 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 2: team is trying to find a franchise quarterback and get 33 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: him on a rookie deal. Of course, his rookie deals 34 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 2: not really much of a rookie deal for much longer. 35 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: Is this is how many years has he been in 36 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: the league now? Is it three or two? 37 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? Just two two? So you know, it's like it 38 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: seems like it's a little early to get up on them. 39 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: It man, if you don't win, and you know, you know, 40 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 2: his his poor play has been so bad. Even his 41 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 2: good play hasn't been spectacular. He had one great quarter 42 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 2: against the Bears. Even even when he's played well, it's 43 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: not like he's been just spectacular. 44 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: And you go, WHOA, But I don't you know, we've 45 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: told I don't know what you. 46 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 2: Do we I said it to you yesterday, and this 47 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: is something we've discussed before. I literally, of the thirty 48 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: two starting quarterbacks in pro football, there's ten or twelve 49 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 2: I like, and after that, it's like most of the 50 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: guys should probably just be backups or they're just they're 51 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 2: they're they're they're okay, but you know they're they're they're good, 52 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 2: but they're not great. 53 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: So I don't know, how do you replace them? Who 54 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: do you? 55 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 2: Who do you play instead? You know, I'm not excited 56 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 2: about the kirk Cousins of the world and some of 57 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: those other you know, the rivers is Is and the Flacohs. 58 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: I mean, those are just stop gap measures to me. 59 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 2: And you know too, coming off of the year we 60 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 2: lost back to back, we lost to the Lions and 61 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 2: we lost to the Rams and Darnald left. 62 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: If you're coming off a season like. 63 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: That when you were thirteen and four, you can I 64 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: think you can make the argument stop gaps. 65 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: Okay. You know that's why you and I were not. 66 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 2: Just for the entertainment factor of Aaron Rodgers and his 67 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: news conferences and ayahuasca and his smarminess in his ego, 68 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 2: but it kind of felt like this team is built 69 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: to win now, and you want a guy that that's ready. 70 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: I just don't know how many of those guys are 71 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: out there. The cousins Is of the world don't interest me, 72 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: so I think you almost you got to try to 73 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: find some veteran quarterback. You know, you and I disagreed yesterday. 74 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: I think Cousins wants to be guaranteed a starting job. 75 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: If he doesn't have a guarantee of starting job, it 76 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: still wants to play. 77 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: I guess I could be okay with him being here. 78 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 4: But the team seems like it needs so They seem 79 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 4: so far away from thirteen and four after what I 80 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 4: saw last year. You know, it just changes so quickly 81 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 4: that slide in and Aaron Rodgers or a Kirk Cousins. 82 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: Do I think this team is ready to contend? 83 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: I'd say no, they need help at so many different positions. 84 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't know. I don't. And what could you 85 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: get from her? Do you just release him? 86 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody's going to trade for Is there 87 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 2: anybody out there that you're going to get a What 88 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: would you get for him on the trade market? I 89 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: don't think you could get much. Could you, well, what 90 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: would you get for him? 91 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 3: So low draft pick? 92 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I would know, I would. I would. 93 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 3: I would maybe someone out there would give you a 94 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 3: fourth round or for him. 95 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: I would. I think you bring them the plan that 96 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: everybody's reporting. The people that are. 97 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: That are insiders, you know with the vikings and follow 98 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: football for a living, seem to suggest they're going to 99 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: keep McCarthy. But they are going to go out and 100 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 2: get a Kirk Cousins type of guy that can push 101 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: McCarthy for the starting job. And if the veteran beats 102 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: him out, then he's got to wait again. And maybe 103 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: maybe some pushing from somebody now, so you're not just given. 104 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: The starting job. Maybe it gets more out of McCarthy. 105 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: Maybe during this offseason and oda's and mini camps and 106 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 2: training camp, he starts to get the mechanics down better 107 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: and he gets to become a better player. 108 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't completely give up on him. 109 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 3: Bad loss for team Pat Peterson, by the way, the 110 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 3: hammer and gave up two in the final end. What 111 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 3: phenomenal throw by the great Britain. I mean the throw 112 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 3: she made at the end was unbelievable. Oh no, but yeah, 113 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 3: are we just lost and are we done. I'm not 114 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 3: sure where they are in pool play, and I know 115 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 3: they were five and two at one point. Oh, they'll 116 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 3: have to look at the standings. 117 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: What happened? I wasn't watching. 118 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 3: If they show the Great Britain throw again? It was 119 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 3: high level? 120 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: No? 121 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, bad loss? Oh no, they're up seven to four. 122 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 3: What going in the ninth? Then here it is, Oh, 123 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: this is to the US throw that oh wanted to 124 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 3: bump their own to break that up? 125 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: Do we distance ourselves not from Tcson? What do you think? 126 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if it's over you No, they're Olympians, 127 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 3: they're so great. 128 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: All right, Well you know me, I'm a front runner. 129 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: Right yeah, that's too bad? Yeah wow? Well yeah, question 130 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: number three over or under? 131 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 3: I forgot to mention earlier by when were talking go 132 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 3: for men's basketball to go for women are on the 133 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 3: fan tonight. You can listen to that game. That's a 134 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: seven o'clock start. They're playing number ten Ohio State. We're 135 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 3: number twenty three. We're ranked twenty three. They're ring ten, 136 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 3: so big one tonight. 137 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: And we have I think our next game after that 138 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 2: is a big ten ranked team. So we got we 139 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: got two really and you know what, tanneby. 140 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 3: Work Us is still a fourth here for the women, 141 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 3: but obviously that would have been a big win for 142 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 3: them if they go pull that one. 143 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, we're still a round robin. Okay, everything's cool. Yea. Yeah, 144 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: it's a team that I talked to JG briefly about. 145 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 2: We didn't break it down position by position, but he 146 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: says they're they're playing really good basketball. They're a really 147 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 2: good team. So yeah, I like it. Well, what was 148 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 2: your question about him? I'm sorry, I wasn't going to 149 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 2: ask about them. I just forgot to mention that earlier, 150 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: so I just I'm sure I was going to ask you. 151 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 3: Or under? The win total in Las Vegas for your 152 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: Minnesota Twins this season is seventy three and a half 153 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 3: common seventy three and a half wins for the Minnesota Twins. 154 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: Would you take the over. 155 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: Or under? And do you come from a Lendown under? Dude? 156 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: I take the under, Tom. 157 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 4: Polead He's going to learn in a real hurry that 158 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 4: anything you say gets magnified. 159 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: You know, first was oh, can we stop talking about payroll? 160 00:07:58,440 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: And then he got ripped for that, so then he 161 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: said he knew he then he came back the other 162 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: day and said, I don't pay roll is important to 163 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,239 Speaker 2: the Yeah, of course it's important to the to the fans, 164 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: he didn't realize that. And then he came out with 165 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: the uh, well, we we made a run at Frambler, 166 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 2: and I don't think anybody believes that. Is it Frambler? 167 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: Is that the kid's name? Who is he got the picture? 168 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 3: Then? 169 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and again I maybe we did. My guess is 170 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: we lowballed him. We didn't offerm a competitive offer. And 171 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: then he uh, he was just he was beside himself 172 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 2: when he heard what that the the over under number 173 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 2: was seventy three. He couldn't believe it. He said, well, 174 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 2: that's just he basically said, it's preposterous. 175 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: Just because you want. 176 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 2: To compete, and just because your your manager and your 177 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 2: general manager and other people tell you got a really 178 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 2: great farm system and things can change in a hurry, 179 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 2: doesn't mean it's going to happen that way. 180 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: I know, I call it wishful thinking. I don't think. 181 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 2: I especially now with Lopez looks like out for the year. 182 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: I mean tend Toby Moon in the seventh house, Jupiter 183 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: lines with Mars. 184 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: If all of a. 185 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: Suddens brilliant over comes back. And these young pitchers that 186 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 2: Sue Anne was su had a list of pitchers like 187 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 2: ten of them that are supposedly really good young pitchers. 188 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 2: If two of those guys with very little, if any, 189 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 2: big league experience can burst onto the scene, okay, then 190 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: you probably will win over seventy three games. But I 191 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 2: just don't buy it. I don't And I'm a baseball 192 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: guy first and foremost were ball guys. 193 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: I helped coach little league championships. 194 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 2: You played on a state championship, AAU baseball team. We 195 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 2: understand the game. But I find it hard to believe 196 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 2: that they can win over seventy three games. 197 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 3: Unless seventy three is not a lot. Though a lot 198 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 3: of bad Major League baseball teams, I can get the 199 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 3: seventy three. 200 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 4: I know, but we're really bad. I think there's just 201 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 4: nothing there. 202 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: Lost of Lopez. It's not great for that. But I 203 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 3: think the Tom Pola needs to understand because he's trying 204 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 3: to do a lot of talking. The fan base has 205 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 3: gotten past the point of we don't want to hear 206 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 3: you talk anymore. We want actions, not words. Yes, until 207 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 3: you give actions, no one's gonna care about any of 208 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 3: the words you say, whether it's positive, negative, good, payroll, 209 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 3: bad print, no one's no one's gonna listen to it, 210 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 3: even if you are pure in your intentions. 211 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: When you're right, you're right. 212 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 3: They want the actions. 213 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: And I don't know who've ever been wrong. And that's 214 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: it for today's edition of five questions, Well, actually three questions, 215 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: but five sounds like more than Have you been in 216 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: contact with Oak? I've not been in contact in. 217 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 3: My I texted him yesterday about his rock ranks, so 218 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 3: very good. 219 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: He'll probably he's probably waiting in the elevator rescue You'll. 220 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: I'll go down and fetch him and then we'll do 221 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: Rock Talk along. 222 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: With Rock Rank, Rock Rank. That's next common Man program 223 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: on the fan. 224 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 3: Now. 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Hi common Hitana. Yeah, it's called The 236 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 4: Brian Oak Show. It's pretty inventive name. But when I 237 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 4: left radio, I decided that people should be able to 238 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 4: find it, and they have and for more than six 239 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 4: years now, I've been doing it. Just recorded episode five 240 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 4: hundred and fifty four this morning, highlighting the upcoming festivities 241 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 4: of the Minnesota Bluegrass Association, talking about washboards and jug bands, 242 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 4: and it was pretty cool. And as you know, we 243 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 4: have been nominated for the Minneapolis Saint Paul Magazine Best 244 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 4: Podcast in the Twin Cities Award, and although nothing will 245 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 4: be officially announced until April, early exit polling shows very 246 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 4: good things for the. 247 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 1: Brian Oaks Show. That's all I can say. Were you 248 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: way green? 249 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 4: Just wait if I happened to win something, just to 250 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 4: wait tennant. 251 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 2: Well, and here's the thing. I think they will enjoy it. 252 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 2: But you don't have to like the podcast, but you 253 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 2: have to respect. 254 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: You well, you know. 255 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 4: I mean, it's not like I'm bringing thirty years of 256 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 4: radio experience and artist experience and interviewing experience to bear, 257 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 4: but I am so yeah, you don't have to enjoy it, 258 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 4: but I would appreciate it if you occasionally listened. 259 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: To Were You a Green Grass and High Tides Forever guy? Yeah? 260 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 3: The song? 261 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely? Outlaws? 262 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 4: Oh yeah? Were you more of a Marshall Tucker guy 263 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 4: or Outlaws guy? I like Marshall Tucker b plus because 264 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 4: I just think they had they had, they had more hits. 265 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 4: I think, well, I think they were a better band too, 266 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 4: But again that's not entirely fair of me because I 267 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 4: don't go super deep on the Outlaws, not that version 268 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 4: of the Outlaws. There was another collective that called themselves 269 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 4: the Outlaws. That was Waylon Jennings and Jesse Colter and 270 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 4: Willie Nelson. But those Outlaws, I think they're great and 271 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 4: that song is fantastic, but I probably don't go very 272 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 4: deep on that band. So yeah, I would definitely go 273 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 4: Marshall Tucker band. Can't see Yeah, that's so good. Oh 274 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 4: it's the greatest heartbreak, pull your heart out. It's all over, 275 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 4: Everything's ruined forever and I'll never be okay again. 276 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 3: Song. 277 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: When was the last time we talked? Was it pre 278 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: Super Bowl? 279 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: Because I wanted to get two weeks ago okay, because 280 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 2: I wanted to get your review on Kid Rock and 281 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 2: those Cowboys singers. They had their show and then and 282 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 2: then I got to admit bad break for me. I 283 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: missed the Ricky No, not Ricky Martin. What was this 284 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 2: bad Bunny Bunny, Blue Bunny, bad bad Bunny. 285 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: I missed him. 286 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 2: My boy called from the Ohio State during halftime. 287 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: We were eating dinner, so I missed it. 288 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 2: I've missed now I think twenty four or twenty five 289 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 2: consecutive halftime. 290 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 4: So the last time you were watching the halftime show, 291 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 4: Up with People was still doing it erect Either that 292 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 4: or who are the Ymcapple after Village People last time? Yeah, 293 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 4: very very different group the Village People from Up with People. 294 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 4: The halftime show was spectacular, the bad Bunny one I'm 295 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 4: talking about here, all those great I mean, rickyr was 296 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 4: there and that was fantastic. There were there were a 297 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 4: lot of really incredible moments. And what I liked was 298 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 4: the message of unity at the very end when he 299 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 4: ran down and listed off from south to north every 300 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 4: single country in the Americas, in South and North America 301 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 4: as a show of unity of solidarity. There were all 302 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 4: one people and what what had already been a I mean, 303 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 4: the dancing and the fun and the explosions and all 304 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 4: of it, the waving grass people it was. It was 305 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 4: a very very cool halftime performance, the greatest of all time, 306 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 4: but certainly not worthy of all the nonsense people were 307 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 4: talking about. 308 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: You want to talk about nonsense? Yeah, I'm just not 309 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: into explosion. Guess the explosions. 310 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 4: Weren't the highlight. The celebration of life. Dancing and singing 311 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 4: is what rock and roll is, my good man. No, yeah, 312 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 4: you're going to tell me right now? 313 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: Is in the musical. That's where I want to say. 314 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 2: If if I want to watch a dance troupe, I 315 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 2: watch a dance troupe, you. 316 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 4: Know in high I want to watch it. I was 317 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 4: in Oklahoma, and I can tell you right now I 318 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 4: learned how to scoot my boots pretty well. For that 319 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 4: particular production. I was pawcorns. So I had a song 320 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 4: the farmer and the cowman should be friends. You're welcome 321 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 4: the farmer, and oh, the farmer and the cowman should 322 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 4: be friends. 323 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: See, you don't even know Oklahoma man? You know who 324 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: you sound like? Robert Gulay? 325 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: No, well that, but no, the guy from Oakridge Boys, 326 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: the really deep boys. 327 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: Oh you should be. 328 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 3: In like the low voice and like a barbershop quartet does, 329 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: like the base. 330 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 4: In high school I was in a select coral ensemble 331 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 4: as a baritone. 332 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: We were called Vision. You're welcome. 333 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 4: We wore cumber bunchs and saying it old folks homes. 334 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: At old folks homes. Yeah, guys, old folks home need 335 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: Oh that's a that's a whole thing. 336 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 4: There are people who make their livings entertaining people at 337 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 4: retirement communities and assisted care facilities, and we just went 338 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 4: in there to bring them the joy of our teenage 339 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 4: shining faces and our music. 340 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 2: Oh ten to be. Go to a song, see if 341 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 2: it's in our system. It's called dream On by the 342 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 2: Oakridge Boys. 343 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 3: Dream On not by Aerosmith. 344 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: No, not the Aerosmith. This is this is better? Well 345 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 2: it's it's it's cheesy love song. 346 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: Okay, who doesn't love a cheesy love song? Just is 347 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: it in the system? 348 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 3: I haven't even got some point reckon. It takes a 349 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 3: while to load itself up because. 350 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 4: I want I want you a deep voice, guy. I 351 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 4: don't remember the Oakridge Boys had one. Statler Brothers had 352 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 4: one too, though, you know the. 353 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 3: Count and Flowers as an Oakridge Boys version in the system. 354 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: Well, that's just sad. That is sad. 355 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 4: On the other end of the spectrum, though, on the 356 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 4: Aerosmith version of Dream on those dizzy high notes during 357 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 4: the crescendo, pretty amazing. 358 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they certainly were. 359 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: Huh, what can you tell me about hold On? I 360 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: tend to be searches for that song. I just want 361 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: to his voice is it's it's almost too low, it's creepy. 362 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: Well wait, I'm sitting right here. No, but I mean no, 363 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: I'm one of guys singing like in this. I love that. Yeah, 364 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: it's really good. This is actually a really good song. 365 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: I played it all the time it was at radio station. 366 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: This was a hit. So you play the hits right 367 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: home of the hits. Now listen how deep this voice is? 368 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, get cold, Oh be cute, trouble fall from. 369 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 1: Whaous I've never heard before? And then everybody comes in. 370 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 1: It comes in a goodtle violin. Right. 371 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,959 Speaker 4: This sounds almost like the cow Sills or the Poppy 372 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 4: Family or something right here. 373 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: Oh, I have heard this song. Yeah, really good. I 374 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: just I guess I didn't realize that deep. That's as 375 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: deep as I go on the oak well. 376 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 4: And then you know, I'll be honest, though, that was 377 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 4: a nice deep baritone right there. But if we're going 378 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 4: to talk all time, great, if we're going to talk 379 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 4: the goat of the deep voice singing, it's got to 380 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 4: be Barry White. I mean, Arry White is just you know, 381 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 4: there's a lot of great deep voices out there over 382 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 4: the years. But oh man, you want to talk about 383 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 4: love news. Do you want to talk about some special 384 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 4: time alone with your special someone that's Verry White time. 385 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: I can't argue with that. 386 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 4: I saw a story I'm so out of you know, 387 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 4: if it was a recorded after nineteen seventy one, of 388 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 4: course that was nineteen seventy nine. 389 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: Oh rich boys. So I guess I'm kind of a 390 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: I get. 391 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 4: Asked all the time about what it's like to hang 392 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 4: out with common because you guys seem to enjoy talking 393 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 4: about music, and. 394 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: I'm like, we do. 395 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 4: We both love a lot of the same music, but 396 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 4: we also teach each other about things the other one 397 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 4: didn't know. But I do describe you as the guy 398 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 4: whose music tastes sort of stopped evolving around nineteen eighty 399 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 4: one eighty two. Is that fair eighty seven, eighty seven, 400 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,719 Speaker 4: eighty eight, Okay, in the eighties. 401 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: Though, I guess this is a big story because on 402 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: the music news of the day this was the headline 403 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: shine Down. Are you familiar with the band named Shendavi? 404 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely an extensive twenty twenty six world tour and a 405 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 2: new album. 406 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: What can you tell me about shine? 407 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 4: All I can tell you is that they are one 408 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 4: of the biggest popular rock acts and have been for 409 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 4: a very long time. Shine Down occupies that sort of 410 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 4: it's not even really new metal, it's just hard rock 411 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 4: modern era. You know, there's other stations in town. I 412 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 4: know that it's somewhat of a boating to even acknowledge 413 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 4: that they exist, but they do, and the rock station 414 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 4: in town ninety three x. They would absolutely be a 415 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 4: core artist over there. I also know, though, if I'm 416 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 4: not mistaken, Shine Down ended up pulling out of that 417 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 4: big festival down in the South that was Kid Rocks Festival, 418 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 4: and as a result that kind of like pulled out 419 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,479 Speaker 4: the pin that deflated the whole thing. Okay, but what 420 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 4: what's up with Shine? 421 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 6: No? 422 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 4: Just I said that when they anounced a twenty twenty 423 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 4: six world tour. 424 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, the album, and it's very huge. 425 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 4: I mean again, I couldn't name a song with a 426 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 4: gun to my head. That's not really in my wheelhouse. 427 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 4: But I've been hearing their name for at least twenty 428 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 4: plus years, and yeah, they're absolutely a staple. 429 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: But again, it's nothing that I get excited about it. 430 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to put you on the spot there. Okay, 431 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: let's do this. I got several other topics I want 432 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: to get and do you Abaheim, I got a couple 433 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: as well, and two of them Olympics related. Yeah, and 434 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: there was there You Are, the Grum Reaper, the Angel 435 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: of Death, the Angel of Death. There was a significant 436 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 1: death of a bass player that I'm sure you're familiar with. Okay, 437 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: if you caught that one, we'll take a look at that. 438 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: And of course we'll do rock Rank, Rock Rank all 439 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: right here in the. 440 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 3: Fan we all that one teacher who believed in us. 441 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 3: We'll show your gratitude. 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And 463 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 4: so fred Smith was originally in the very very beginnings 464 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 4: of a band called Angel and the Snake. They would 465 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 4: change their name to Blondie and the Bonzai Babies, and 466 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 4: then simply Blondie. But he quit in nineteen seventy five 467 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 4: because it was time to go and his favorite band 468 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 4: actually had an opening on bass and he wanted to 469 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 4: go play with them instead. Blondie hadn't had a hit yet, 470 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 4: Blondie hadn't blown up. They were just another one of 471 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 4: these bands struggling in the New York City scene, trying 472 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 4: to make a name for themselves. Although they were obviously great, 473 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 4: they were still considered outside of that scene, nothing special. 474 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 4: Right then, of course that would change. They would blow 475 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 4: up multiple top ten hits. They did very, very well, 476 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 4: whereas Television wouldn't go onto those dizzying heights, but remains 477 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 4: critically respected deeply to this day. And so he went 478 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 4: over to be with the band Television because the band 479 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 4: Television had lost their guy, Richard Hell, who would go 480 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 4: on to form The Heartbreakers with Johnny Thunders and you 481 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 4: know all that weird connective tissue in the background. But 482 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 4: this was a super fertile time in the New York scene. 483 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 4: So to get into one of these bands, you had 484 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 4: to be good, you had to be known, you had 485 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,719 Speaker 4: to be a name, And that's really how we are 486 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 4: still talking about him today was his time in the 487 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 4: band Television. 488 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: I'm familiar with Blondie. 489 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 2: I'd heard the band Television, but I'd never listened to 490 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 2: a song of theirs. 491 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: And he says he does not regret leaving. It's one 492 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 1: of those you know, as far. 493 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 2: As if you're talking about success, as far as may 494 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 2: and money and gets and all that, he did make 495 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 2: the right choice because Blondie obviously distance Television by a lot. 496 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 2: But he liked the music they played, and apparently he 497 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 2: fit in with the guitars. Is Tom Verlaine, Tom Ralane? Yeah, yeah, 498 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: and he fit in brilliantly. And I did listen to 499 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 2: a song from that. Was it called Marquee Moon. 500 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 4: Marquee Moon is It's considered an absolute landmark in American music. 501 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 4: So if people haven't checked it out, is that what? I? Yes, exactly, Marky. 502 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 4: It's a long song. 503 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:29,719 Speaker 1: Yeah. I didn't get through all of it. I got 504 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: to well, you know what, I'm gonna be honest. 505 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 4: As much as they're well revered to talk about a 506 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 4: perfect example, if you don't have to love it, but 507 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 4: you have to respect it, I'm very much in that 508 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 4: camp when it comes to the band television. No disrespect 509 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 4: at all. It's just it doesn't hit that big red 510 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 4: button in the middle of my brain. 511 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: You know, I got you. 512 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, so now you had some mom. I got a 513 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 4: couple of little tidbits for you here, nothing too juicy. 514 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 4: But I do have the fact that the Olympics, right, 515 00:23:55,000 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 4: the greatest sporting get together of humanity across the world. 516 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 4: The Olympics are cool, and everybody's into it, and everybody 517 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 4: takes part. And it's a chance once every four years 518 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 4: for the winter stuff, obviously different, alternating four years for 519 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 4: the summer stuff, to show that we all still are 520 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 4: striving for the same things. That no matter where you're from, 521 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 4: what you look like, we're all human beings and we 522 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,479 Speaker 4: all want to compete. We all want to win, man, 523 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 4: But there's a camaraderie, there's a spirit there, and people 524 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 4: get really caught in up up in it. You know 525 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 4: that people start to absorb nationalism, you know, USA number one, 526 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 4: USA number one. But there's this sense of healthy competition, 527 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 4: right like in the NFL among the sporting teams, right, 528 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 4: nobody actually hates anybody else, no one actually wants to 529 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 4: hurt anybody else, but they want to win and they'll 530 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 4: do it at any costs. Well, everybody gets in on 531 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 4: the Olympics, and so when celebrities come in, like Taylor 532 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 4: Swift herself. The Taylor Swift came in and dropped a 533 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 4: congratulations on one of the Olympic skiers who announced her 534 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 4: engagement and you know, apparently just absolutely melted down and enjoy. 535 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 4: That is what I'm talking about there. And there was 536 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 4: another one that I I'm trying to find right here. 537 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 4: I think got it here somewhere. Oh Amber Glenn, who 538 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 4: we were counting on so much, so many of American 539 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 4: Olympic hopeful's dreams were pinned on her short program. She 540 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 4: had been warming up and she had been performing to 541 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 4: a Madonna song, and Madonna herself reached out the night 542 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 4: before and said so strong, so beautiful, so brave in 543 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 4: a video clip. Amber was losing her mind. She was 544 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 4: crying her eyes out. Unfortunately, the next day, Amber had 545 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 4: some pretty rough spots in her short competition and ended 546 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 4: up thirteenth on the total, so out of the medals, 547 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 4: but got a go get them kid from Madonna, arguably 548 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 4: one of the biggest names in the last fifty years 549 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 4: in American music. 550 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: I think I've stumbled across something that's. 551 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 2: Been happening lately that I've not a defensive back for 552 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions. Back when I was a kid, a 553 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 2: guy named Lem Barney, terrific player, Hall of fame. So 554 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 2: about six eight weeks ago, a story came out that 555 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 2: Lem Barney had died, you know the you know, socials 556 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 2: filling and all of a sudden was announcement, No, Lem's 557 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 2: still alive. 558 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: Right, that's happening a lot now. 559 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and how about this, So I'm going I 560 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 2: always before you come on, I always music news today 561 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 2: and the last item says deaths and tributes. Industry tributes 562 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 2: are pouring in for the late Cindy Lapper, reports American songwriter. 563 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 2: I'm like, lot's news to me. So I I google 564 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 2: her name and Wikipedia page car it says she's still 565 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: alive and I don't know, but so, but why does 566 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 2: it say that here? 567 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: Now? 568 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 2: I know that you can make mistakes, but I think 569 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 2: this is another in the case of where somebody you 570 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 2: can send anything out on a tweet, right of course, 571 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 2: and just send whatever you want and then people will 572 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 2: jump on it and then there's a repeating that's what 573 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 2: they did with and it's not just the lembarney. 574 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: When that's the one that stuck out to me. I've 575 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: been told by this oh that that happens. 576 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 2: Frequently when people will do that, that must be what's 577 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 2: happening here. Because I think she's still alive, and now 578 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 2: I know she's in her seventies. I think, so it 579 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 2: could happen with someday, but well will someday. 580 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: But I just well, I don't see it anywhere else. 581 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: A couple of things. 582 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 4: Either one, you know that person actually has intel that 583 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 4: has not reached the rest of the world yet and 584 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 4: broke a confidence or got there first. That is always 585 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 4: a possibility, But much more likely is that someone heard 586 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 4: something and in I think where we see a lot 587 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 4: of inaccuracies these days because everything's so immediate, because the 588 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 4: news cycle is so tight, people race to get their first. 589 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 4: They want to be the breaking news, they want to 590 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 4: be the retweet, they want to be the headline, and 591 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,959 Speaker 4: sometimes a lot of fact checking is overlooked in an 592 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 4: effort to get to the sensational part of it. That 593 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 4: would be my guess right there, But you know, and 594 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 4: who knows, might be real. But I haven't heard a thing. 595 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 4: But if it is. I promise you we're going to 596 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 4: do a much longer grum reaper segment on that. 597 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 2: This one before we get to rock. Rank says, I 598 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 2: thought Blondie only had called me for hit song. What 599 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 2: are some of the other big hits? Oh that we're 600 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 2: playing rap? 601 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 4: The tide is high rapture one way or another. Heart 602 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 4: of Glass was a top ten media number one hit. 603 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 4: That was number one they and I'm trying to think, 604 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 4: and then there's a bunch of other sort of mid 605 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 4: level ones that I wouldn't call radio hits. But no, 606 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 4: Blondie was a significant force in popular music from the 607 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 4: late seventies into the early and some people don't harlel 608 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 4: Lines is in my top ten albums of all time. 609 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 2: Debbie Harry was the lead singer, and a lot of 610 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,719 Speaker 2: people thought it was called Blonde because she was had 611 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 2: blonde hair. Right, No, she's not blonde. She's a part 612 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 2: of a band called Blinde Exactly. 613 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 4: I much like the comic strip Blondie, right like where 614 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 4: Blondie is absolutely a character in it, but Dagwood Bumpstead 615 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 4: is the main character in that, and Blondie just happens 616 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 4: to be where they get the. 617 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 1: Name Yeah, should we go ahead? Tennabe, You're ready for it. 618 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: Here we go. 619 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 4: Rock crack, rock, rock, rock, rock, Rock, rock, rock, rock Rock. 620 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 3: Now Today's rock Rank. Obviously, last week we couldn't have 621 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 3: Brian Okain because we had the preposterous Save and Tournament 622 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 3: selections show that was big. And last week was Valentine's Week, 623 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 3: Valentine's Day week, and I wanted to have a Valentine's 624 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 3: Day theme rock rank. So today and this could be 625 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 3: a long lest Hero your top five favorite love. 626 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 4: Songs of all time? Yeah, baby, Well I've got them 627 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 4: and I'm ready to go. And of all the criteria. 628 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 4: By the way, I just looked up Cindi Lauper on 629 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 4: American Songwriter. She's mourning the death of a legendary Hall 630 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 4: of Fame songwriter that came out in a tweet just 631 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 4: a few hours ago. 632 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: So just to be. 633 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 4: Clear, she still wants to have fun. She's still out 634 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 4: there very much making it happen. She was paying tribute 635 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 4: and mourning the death of someone else love songs. 636 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 3: She's just showing her true colors. Well done, Tanna, time 637 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 3: after time, brilliant, Yeah more, I don't I can't go 638 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 3: past three. Cindy Lapersons. 639 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, well, but that's deeper than most I 640 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 4: would guess, so well done. There's probably not been a 641 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 4: subject that has been written about or extolled upon, both 642 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,719 Speaker 4: positive and negative then love in the history of music. 643 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 4: So boiling it down to my five favorite love songs 644 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 4: is impossible. But when it time to come, I just 645 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 4: picked five that are absolutely bulletproof. Well technically six, but 646 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 4: five sounds like more than three, and I wanted to 647 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 4: but I've got a list of honorable mentions that's two 648 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 4: page long, and so it's hard to imagine that I've 649 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 4: put together a list that doesn't include the carpenters close 650 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 4: to you, Modern English has Melt with You, Dusty Springfield, 651 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 4: The Look of Love, Whitney Houston, Dolly Partons, I Will 652 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 4: Always Love You is not in my top five. Wow, 653 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 4: it's rich out there. This is a thick thick in 654 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 4: the field. But they're all great. I mean, they all 655 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 4: were in consideration. So coming in at number I know 656 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 4: I post only do five, but number six this had 657 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,479 Speaker 4: to be on the list, but there wasn't room four 658 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 4: it on the list, So I am bending the rules 659 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 4: and giving you six, number six. Joni Mitchell famed Canadian 660 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 4: singer songwriter with her song A Case of You. It 661 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 4: is so heartfelt, it is so touching. None other than 662 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 4: his Royal Purple Majesty Prince himself does a legendary solo 663 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 4: cover of him at a piano of doing this song, 664 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 4: Joni Mitchell. A Case of You is definitely number six 665 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 4: at my on my list, Number five is a more 666 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 4: modern era band Tenny. You're gonna know who this is common. 667 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 4: I'm not certain you will. But Ben Gibbard of the 668 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 4: band Deathcap for Cutie, who has gotten very popular over 669 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 4: the years from very humble indie beginnings, had a side 670 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 4: project called The Postal Service, and The Postal Service has 671 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 4: a song called Such Great Heights. I wish we could 672 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 4: play that all these songs on here to give people 673 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 4: a taste, but it is of the modern era. One 674 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 4: of the most touching and sincere and heartfelt missives to 675 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 4: love and the specifically love to one other person that 676 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 4: I've ever heard. 677 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: It sticks with me. 678 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 4: And anytime I think of, like in a mixtape mode, 679 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 4: like this would go great with this theme or this 680 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 4: song or this mixtape, that song always is on there. 681 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 4: The Postal Service, Such Great Heights at number five, Number four. 682 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of my list, I mean, cause 683 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 2: mine's going to be quite a bit different than yours. 684 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 2: Coming in Number five for me would be Archie Sugar. 685 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 2: Sugar also a fantastic choice. That's the thing is there 686 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 2: are so many songs on What about England? Dan and 687 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 2: john Ford Coli'S I'd really love to see you tonight. 688 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 2: That's not really love. Well it's oh, it's not too smalty, 689 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 2: it's just not really about love. It's more about hooking up. 690 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 4: Number four and again from the more modern era, and 691 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 4: I think Tenny, you might back me up on this one. 692 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 4: Beyonce and jay Z with crazy in Love. Ah yeah, 693 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 4: I'm not a fan of that song. 694 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: How can you not be a fan of that song? 695 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? 696 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 3: Okay, well, we'll talk about that later, and we will 697 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 3: talk about that. 698 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: How about Van Morrison? Have I told you lately that 699 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: I love you? 700 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 4: Beautiful? There's nothing yeah, exactly in touching. That's that kind 701 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 4: of slow dance, wonderful tonight, kind of vibe your throne 702 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 4: out and I get it, and you know, and some 703 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 4: of these were definitely heading in that direction. Number three 704 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 4: for me, they have so many good ones to choose from. 705 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 4: But their song their music embodies rock and roll, but 706 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 4: in bodies beauty embodies complex harmonies and real emotion and haft, 707 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 4: which is why they are also one of the most 708 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 4: important American bands that ever lived. The Beach Boys with 709 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 4: God only knows, God only knows what I'd do without you. 710 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 4: It is when you get down to the essence of 711 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 4: what love is tempers. 712 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: We'll call it the best song of all time. 713 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, I mean God only knows is 714 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 3: it's up there? 715 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 4: And as love songs go, I am certain that it's 716 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 4: been used in hundreds under It's hundreds of weddings over 717 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 4: the years, if not thousands. It's just it's a really, 718 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 4: really better harmonies than that song. 719 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: Exactly agree. How about Partridge Family, I Think I Love You. 720 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 4: It's on my honorable mentions. It is, in fact, the 721 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 4: Partridge Family is right next to Herb Albert. This guy's 722 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 4: in love with you, Captain and taneil Leve will keep 723 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 4: us together. Edit James at last, But back to the 724 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 4: list at hand. No, no, no, that's okay, all Man three, Yeah, 725 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 4: we are at No. Number three was the Beach Boys 726 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 4: God only Knows? Number two this one. I think we're 727 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 4: going to see very eye to eye on again. A 728 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 4: band that has dozens of songs that would qualify for 729 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 4: this list, but I had to pick one, and I 730 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 4: picked the George Harrison composition Something by The Beatles. The 731 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 4: Beatles Something is when I think about what love means 732 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 4: to me, how love makes me feel both calm and 733 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 4: exhilarated at the same time, and it hits you somewhere 734 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 4: that nothing else hits you like that. That's the song 735 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,479 Speaker 4: that the Beatles, the Beatles did that makes me feel 736 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 4: that way more than any other. 737 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 2: Frank Sinatra called it the greatest love song of all time? 738 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: Something? Yeah? Did he really? I like it? But I don't. 739 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: I don't speaking of love. I don't love it, but 740 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: I like it very much. But I understand it. 741 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't understand why I under I get 742 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 2: all that well. 743 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 4: And so just a few more honorable mentions before we 744 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 4: get to my number one. How do you feel about 745 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,280 Speaker 4: the Rolling Stones Wild Horses? 746 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good. Elton John's your song that is in 747 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: my top five. 748 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 3: That's what I was, I said, common one of my 749 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 3: favorite love songs is your song? 750 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: My song? What is my song? 751 00:34:58,680 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 2: No? 752 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 3: I was just saying, your song yours. One of my 753 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 3: favorite songs is your song. My favorite love songs is 754 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 3: your song. 755 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 4: I don't have a song anyway, walking into a Sacco 756 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 4: and Vanzetti bit back there. 757 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: So your song is a top five. 758 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 4: That is yeah, okay, so Edda James at Last, the Birds, 759 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 4: John Riley, and then there's the kind of fun, dancier 760 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 4: end of the love songs like Donna Summers, I Feel Love, 761 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 4: Ohio Players Love roller Coaster Again, there are exactly that 762 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 4: the Red Hot Chili probably song. 763 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: It's called Love roller Coaster. Yes, it's a love song. 764 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 4: It's not a smallty romantic, it's not a slow down 765 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 4: to the way we took a sap ballads. Okay, that's 766 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 4: what I went with, And I'm gonna give you my 767 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 4: very favorite love ballad of all time at number. 768 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 3: One, number one, number one one. 769 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: Wow, it was. 770 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 4: It's hard for me to believe when I hear this 771 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 4: song that the music was all written, mastered, mixed and 772 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 4: finished before lyrics were even considered. Because for all three 773 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 4: of the albums he recorded in Berlin in the late seventies, 774 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 4: Bowie did all the music for Had Everyone Come in, 775 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 4: laid down all the music and didn't come up with 776 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 4: the lyrics in some cases until weeks after the song 777 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 4: was finished, which to me was mind boggling, especially when 778 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 4: you consider the poignancy, the emotional haft, how it reflected 779 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,240 Speaker 4: his life at that time, the sort of timeless nature 780 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 4: of love against all odds, and how often it pops up. 781 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 4: David Bowie's Heroes is my number one love song of 782 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 4: all time. Years later, covered for some big movie Godzilla 783 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,760 Speaker 4: or something covered by the Wallflowers, but David Bowie's Heroes 784 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 4: is I've never heard a song that exemplifies both the 785 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 4: bitter and the sweet elements of love better than that. 786 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: Mabe, you have a number one love song of all 787 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 1: time for me? Yeah? 788 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 2: For you. 789 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 3: I'm going to Make You Love Me by the Jayhawks. 790 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 1: Oh great? Mine would be Sam Cook's Cupid. Also excellent. 791 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: You heard it that's wrong with Cuban. 792 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 6: Let's talk about I can't help falling in love Cupid. 793 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 6: Draw back your bowl and let my arrow flow to 794 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 6: my lover's home. It's so it's simple, happy. 795 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 4: It sounds like a it sounds like a Valentine's Day 796 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 4: cards from homework. 797 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 1: It is so rare. 798 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 3: I felt like every song. Before in nineteen seventy was 799 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 3: all just simple love songs. Oh yeah, but like the 800 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 3: caravels Tonight you belonged to Me. Oh man, it's simple. 801 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 3: But some of them are so haunting and so poignant. 802 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 3: And if you again, context is crucial for those songs. 803 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,919 Speaker 3: If you go back before the era of media saturation, Yeah, 804 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 3: you had a TV in the house that you watched 805 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 3: every now and then. Otherwise, you read magazines, you talk 806 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 3: to your friends, you listened to what was popping on 807 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 3: the radio, and so it was simpler. There was less assault, 808 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 3: There was less demand for these super sophisticated or crazier 809 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 3: edgy things. 810 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: It was okay to just hear a sweet. 811 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 4: Song and walk along holding your special someone's hand. And 812 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 4: you know, granted, there was lots of other stuff going 813 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 4: on as well, but I think the music is reflective 814 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,760 Speaker 4: of what was needed at the time and people. We 815 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 4: were into it. Man, love was love. 816 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 3: It's great coming. What about Crimson and Clover or thunder Island. 817 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: I thought, right, it was very very good. Yeah, those 818 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: are really good love songs. Someone someone suggested, maybe I'm 819 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: amazed by Paul McCartney exactly. 820 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 4: Again, I can't take umbrage with any of these. And again, 821 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 4: the list is literally never ending because fifty percent of 822 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 4: all songs were love songs. Yeah, at least fifty percent. 823 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: So familiar with a song called the Garden by Van Morris, 824 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: I am not. Well. I may have heard it before, 825 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: but I don't know it by its title. When you 826 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 1: get into your car, yeah, put it on, and that'll that. 827 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 3: Should Oh I don't have a phonograph of my car. 828 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,879 Speaker 1: Get you into the into the it should get into 829 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: your top. 830 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,840 Speaker 3: And it's called what the garden? The garden? 831 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: All right? 832 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 3: What about you make me feel like a natural woman? Fine, 833 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 3: I get it. It goes on and on and on. 834 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 4: I'm like, already, what about what about don What about 835 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 4: Leona Lewis's Bleeding Love? 836 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: How about Loving the First Degree by Alabama? 837 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I once thought of love as a prison, 838 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 2: a place I didn't want beat. 839 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: You. 840 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 4: So, just every other country singer, you sound like the 841 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 4: Turning Point USA halftime show. I always love that one. 842 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,320 Speaker 4: What about the Righteous brothers unchained Melody? 843 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: Well, that's pretty well. We talked about that. 844 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,439 Speaker 2: That was the one that was that the song that's 845 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 2: been That song has been played more than any other 846 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 2: song in the history of music. 847 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 4: You want to talk about one that's played at a wedding? 848 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,919 Speaker 4: I mean that's been at zillions of weddings for sure. 849 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:33,919 Speaker 4: How about the association Never My Love? Oh, I mean 850 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 4: they're just every era, every genre, every demo. 851 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: How much of trogs Love is all around? 852 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:42,399 Speaker 4: Oh? 853 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:42,919 Speaker 3: So good? 854 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 1: It's so good. I feel it in my fingers. Oh yeah, 855 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 1: I feel it in my toes. 856 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 4: In your Eyes by Peter Gabriel another excellent one. Yes, 857 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,800 Speaker 4: I'm down with all of these. What about My Michelle 858 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 4: by Guns n' Roses. What about let My Love Open 859 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 4: the Door? Another great one right there? What about knock 860 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,800 Speaker 4: on Wood by Eddie Floyd or later On by Amy Stewart. 861 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:07,720 Speaker 1: It's a disco version. 862 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:14,240 Speaker 3: Well, so next next week we'll have to do breakup songs. Oh, 863 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 3: breakup songs. Yeah, let's dig de let's open up a va. 864 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 4: That's your rocktalk for next time, Frank, next week, before 865 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 4: we cut it, I have a quick question for you. 866 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:26,760 Speaker 4: What is your single favorite Olympiad Winter Olympiad sport? 867 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 2: Uh? 868 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: Figure skating? Figure skating by far Yeah, it's amazing. 869 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 4: It requires a level of of of execution, skilticism, and 870 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 4: artistry together. 871 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 2: It's the only sport that that includes the two. There's 872 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 2: no other sport. I mean a little bit of the snowboarding, 873 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 2: but it's kind of like you go down and you 874 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 2: do a big helicopter fright, But they there there, there's 875 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 2: a program, especially the dances, which there was a lot 876 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 2: of controversy there and who won the you know, the 877 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 2: French judge did the old you know, jobbed him, jobbed. 878 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: Him in the French one. But I mean, to me, 879 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,839 Speaker 1: it's it's the very best. Yeah. 880 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 4: No, well, I'm I'm a I'm a skeleton guy only 881 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,839 Speaker 4: because hurdling on your stomach headfirst on a sled down 882 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 4: an icy track at eighty miles an hour. I don't 883 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 4: know why anyone thought that was fun. And I do 884 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 4: have questions and I'm not trying to say anything cheeky here, 885 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 4: but how do you find out you're good at two 886 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:17,320 Speaker 4: man luge? 887 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: Okay? 888 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 4: I mean so like, hey Bud, we're gonna go sledding today? 889 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 4: All right, Hey man, you're really good at going fast? 890 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 4: So am I I got a great idea. What if 891 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 4: I just lay on top of you and we go 892 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 4: eighty miles an hour down that course? Together again. I'm 893 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 4: not trying to insinuate anything but A where did it start? 894 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 4: And B growing up? How do you find out you're 895 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 4: good at Team Luge? You're a podcasts podcast called The 896 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 4: Brian Oak Show. It is available widely. U. Yeah, about 897 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 4: five hundred and fifty four episodes now in the can 898 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 4: more to come for. 899 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 3: It's gonna be amazing. Actually, you know what, it's gonna 900 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 3: be cool. 901 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 4: Local she rocker Christy Costello is gonna be stopping by 902 00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,359 Speaker 4: next tip so anyway, Yeah, it's available through but we've 903 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 4: got all the places. We've got the iHeartRadio app, we've 904 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 4: got Spotify and Apple, so anywhere you want to hear 905 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 4: at The Brian Oakshow podcast. 906 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,399 Speaker 1: Very good. We'll see you next week. I'll be here. 907 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 1: I will take a break, come back. 908 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 4: We've got a little disdat lat Emphasis Lab on the 909 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 4: comment Man program on the Fan