Speaker 1: You want to be an American.
Speaker 2: Twenty here, this is seven hundred WLIW. This is interesting.
Speaker 2: A record high forty five percent of adults in America
Speaker 2: identified as political independence last year, and that number looks
Speaker 2: like it's going to grow this year in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2: But an equal share of adults now consider themselves a
Speaker 2: twenty seven percent Democrat, twenty seven percent Republican, a forty
Speaker 2: five percent independent. What the hell does that mean? Actually,
Speaker 2: and the independent percentage has increased in the past fifteen
Speaker 2: years or I don't around forty percent, but we haven't
Speaker 2: seen this level like in a long long time. What's
Speaker 2: driving this whole thing. Joining the show is polster and
Speaker 2: political advisor. That'd be the legendary Kevin Burton from Crosstown
Speaker 2: Consulting in northern Kentucky.
Speaker 3: keV I doing I'm doing pretty good, Scott, Thank you
Speaker 3: for that introduction.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the legendary in your legendary at this point, this
Speaker 2: is I mean I look at this and go, okay,
Speaker 2: forty five percent independent. I consider myself that I tend
Speaker 2: to lean to the right, but at the same time libertarian.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of an amalgamation of different things. But I
Speaker 2: vote with my conscience, not because I want to be
Speaker 2: part of a movement, and I've yet to see a
Speaker 2: movement that I would be part of, because I think
Speaker 2: there's a certain amount of corruption and also a glasshouse's nature,
Speaker 2: and also having to go against some ideals in order
Speaker 2: to compromise. And maybe I'm a little too stubborn to
Speaker 2: do that. But it seems like I'm in the majority
Speaker 2: here at this point. And what does this mean for
Speaker 2: the Democrats and Republicans? Of twenty seven percent are Democrats,
Speaker 2: twenty seven percent of Republicans. They take up all the
Speaker 2: oxygen in a room.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And the reason why independence have grown is because
Speaker 3: of the primary creth. So in Kentucky you have a
Speaker 3: closed primary, so only DS can vote for d's, only
Speaker 3: rs can vote for rs. Eyes can't do anything. In
Speaker 3: Ohio you can do say, you know, you can do
Speaker 3: different things. If you're an eye. You can vote the
Speaker 3: Democratic primary, you can vote to the Republican. So each
Speaker 3: state is different, but the primaries always result in the
Speaker 3: most extremes on both sides, and that's why it's driven
Speaker 3: more independent because to win a primary, you're usually looking
Speaker 3: at ten, twelve, fifteen percent turnout In off year elections,
Speaker 3: which frankly, the only people who usually vote on those
Speaker 3: are people who are really riled up. So you're going
Speaker 3: to have the extremes on both sides. So it has
Speaker 3: pushed more people to the middle. Now, when you do campaigns, though,
Speaker 3: there's usually about eight to ten percent that are completely
Speaker 3: non leaning, and those are the core flippers for independence.
Speaker 3: How you win elections?
Speaker 2: Okay, obviously they're important in the election themselves. Some of
Speaker 2: the old adage about you always campaign to the extremes
Speaker 2: and you governed from the middle, Well that that sentiment's
Speaker 2: been gone for a while now, that's not that has
Speaker 2: been true in a while. No, oh, not at all.
Speaker 2: I mean, which turns more people in independence. But again,
Speaker 2: if that's the way the system is designed, it feels
Speaker 2: like a fruitless effort, is it. Well it is.
Speaker 3: And this is where it's kind of ironic that the
Speaker 3: only time both Democrats and Republicans work together is to
Speaker 3: squash any third party.
Speaker 4: Right, we talk.
Speaker 2: About we talk about redistricting in Ohio and Democrats all
Speaker 2: worked up. Well, what about states or Democrats? Well that's different.
Speaker 3: Well, and you know, for every California there's an Alabama
Speaker 3: and vice versa.
Speaker 2: So you know.
Speaker 3: The bulk of people, and you know you hear this
Speaker 3: with in your communities.
Speaker 2: You know you're at a bar, at.
Speaker 3: A church, ninety percent of people just common sense things.
Speaker 3: And that's what you're seeing with forty five percent of
Speaker 3: people identifying as independents and the twenty seven percent you
Speaker 3: know to an R or D, you're really seeing just
Speaker 3: kind of people where I think are.
Speaker 2: Just tired of just being tired of politics. Yeah, yeah, exhausting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, can we just get back to being like, hey,
Speaker 3: I might not agree with you, but it's okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we want to make politics boring again?
Speaker 3: That that should be the next slogan for anyone, right right,
Speaker 3: Make politics boring?
Speaker 2: Yeah, make politics bor You don't talk about religion and politics,
Speaker 2: Well now we talk about both. And it's exhausting, quite honestly,
Speaker 2: when you start looking at the numbers. Though inside the
Speaker 2: over forty five almost half the country, for God's sakes,
Speaker 2: call themselves independents, and let look where we are when
Speaker 2: it comes to the poop slinging on both sides. Gen
Speaker 2: z Ors, though in particular, declare their independencity much higher
Speaker 2: rate fifty six percent than millennials did. When they were
Speaker 2: that age of forty seven percent. What does that mean
Speaker 2: in the long term.
Speaker 3: Well, okay, so millennials to gen Z. You also got
Speaker 3: to remember for millennials, for most of them, they were
Speaker 3: in college or high school when Obama came came in.
Speaker 2: So like I would take that with a little grain
Speaker 2: of salt.
Speaker 3: A lot of gen Zers, you know, they still lean
Speaker 3: or considered themselves a Democrat when push comes the shelves.
Speaker 2: So out of the poll they did forty.
Speaker 3: Eight percent of them considered themselves a Democrat for considered
Speaker 3: them Republicans. And I think it's just simply like you
Speaker 3: see the Bernie Sanders, the AOC, the Mindani wing where
Speaker 3: frankly they didn't get a fair share from the Democratic Party.
Speaker 3: And I think that's why more and more people are
Speaker 3: just saying, you know what, I'm just going to be
Speaker 3: an independent and on the Republican side, you know, they're
Speaker 3: that was Trump.
Speaker 2: I mean, Trump didn't.
Speaker 3: Feel like he was getting a fair shaken twenty sixteen,
Speaker 3: which was a lifetime ago, but you know, he was
Speaker 3: an outsider running.
Speaker 2: Are independence basically socialists and misplaced populous?
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean you know, because like when you're running
Speaker 3: an election. Basically, both ours and D's they have these
Speaker 3: softwares and they're billion dollars softwares, and they basically put
Speaker 3: algorithms and it's way above my pay grade. But there's
Speaker 3: like one hundred and thirty sub sections and everything, and
Speaker 3: I'll give you a score. So let's say is zero
Speaker 3: is a conservative, one hundred is a Democrat. So it
Speaker 3: will say if I typed in Scott Swann, let's say
Speaker 3: your score was twenty seven. That would mean that you
Speaker 3: have a high probability of voting Republicans. So when you're
Speaker 3: running these elections, especially with independence, you look at the
Speaker 3: around ten percent of the independents who really swing the election.
Speaker 2: Those are the people who you hear, you.
Speaker 3: Know, they voted Trump, Biden, Trump, Obama. And that's and
Speaker 3: that's where elections are really one. They're one on the margins.
Speaker 3: And that's the margin, the eight to ten percent non
Speaker 3: leaning independence.
Speaker 2: You've got your twenty seven percent of hardcore conservatives, twenty
Speaker 2: five percent twenty seven percent hardcore progressives. In order to
Speaker 2: tiff that split, you need to draw that ten percent,
Speaker 2: got it, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Because out of out of the other thirty five, basically
Speaker 3: you can split that seventeen percent both ways, and they're
Speaker 3: going to lean to the last of lean to the right.
Speaker 3: So it's all about about that ten percent number who
Speaker 3: really decides federal elections.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I guess that ten percent is on the
Speaker 2: seesaw going okay, well who do I who? As opposed
Speaker 2: to who do I really like?
Speaker 5: Who?
Speaker 2: Who do who do I hate? Least it's the way
Speaker 2: we look at that. And I guess that ten percent.
Speaker 2: Is that why we will not see or do you
Speaker 2: think we'll never see another two term present again? For
Speaker 2: that reason? And I guess I mean, I mean Konseck,
Speaker 2: you know, Trump's second term technically, but you know Biden
Speaker 2: was in the middle of that, so we just swung
Speaker 2: back and forth. Is that why? I mean?
Speaker 3: But also I would say both Trump and Biden are
Speaker 3: kind of outliers. I mean, Biden was going to be
Speaker 3: eighty three years old and Trump's gonna be, you know,
Speaker 3: the same, And it was COVID, So I would say,
Speaker 3: let's see one more president before we make that claim,
Speaker 3: because both of them are kind of different from the majority.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's very very hard if you look at
Speaker 3: presidential approvals. Really since the invention of cable news but
Speaker 3: really social media, it's almost impossible to stay above fifty
Speaker 3: percent approval.
Speaker 2: So it's going to make it harder and.
Speaker 3: Harder to govern, and just harder and harder to block
Speaker 3: out the noise.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, gotcha. So Trump's first term, we got the
Speaker 2: anti trumpers go, hey, we need something. We're tired of
Speaker 2: this guy. We brought Biden. Four years later, we got
Speaker 2: tired of Biden. We brought Trump back. And I'm guessing,
Speaker 2: you know, with the mid and then three years from now,
Speaker 2: are we going to rebel against the Republicans and vote
Speaker 2: a Democrat.
Speaker 3: In Well, but that's also the great thing of those countries.
Speaker 3: There's checks and balances. Yeah, I mean it is. You know,
Speaker 3: you might not like it, but that's that's how we've
Speaker 3: always been and hopefully that's how we always will be.
Speaker 3: You know, when one tide gets too strong, the people
Speaker 3: speak up.
Speaker 2: Right and vice versa.
Speaker 3: So if you ask me today, yes, the midterms would
Speaker 3: probably look really good for the Democrat as of today, and.
Speaker 2: Then we'll see what happened. I mean, again, this has
Speaker 2: been one year. I can't have three more years, and
Speaker 2: it just seems like it's getting more and more viral.
Speaker 2: You know, since we're going at each other even harder,
Speaker 2: and every day feels like it's a year. As far
Speaker 2: as news goes, there's definitely been a change the last
Speaker 2: number of years relative to that. And Trump, of course,
Speaker 2: is a whirlwind of activities, always doing something. Certainly every
Speaker 2: day there's something new, for sure, and either you're excited
Speaker 2: by that or turned off by it, but everyone definitely
Speaker 2: has an opinion on it. I look at the general
Speaker 2: racial breakdowns. Gen Z fifty six percent identifies independence, Millennials
Speaker 2: a majority, gen X my generation forty plus percent identifies independence.
Speaker 2: When you get downe to the baby boomer silent generation
Speaker 2: that's right around thirty three percent. How much does that change?
Speaker 2: It just seems like the older you get, the more
Speaker 2: accepting you become of a party. And maybe you know
Speaker 2: what this whole identity politic thing where people will not
Speaker 2: question the person they voted for, even if it's a contradiction,
Speaker 2: they won't point that out. In many ways, that seems
Speaker 2: to be case you just as the older you get,
Speaker 2: the more sent in the ways you are and you
Speaker 2: want to be part of that community. And does that
Speaker 2: change with future generations where their identity.
Speaker 3: Isn't politics well, but you also got to remember, if
Speaker 3: you're a baby boomer or definitely a silent generation, you
Speaker 3: really grew up in a whole different world. You didn't
Speaker 3: have twenty four to seven news for the longest time,
Speaker 3: the Internet you.
Speaker 2: Didn't really have, and definitely non social media.
Speaker 3: So I think, you know, social media in the twenty
Speaker 3: four hour news has just changed everything. It's made politics
Speaker 3: a constant, you know, I think going forward.
Speaker 2: I mean, so when you're running an election, generally.
Speaker 3: Speaking, I always tell people to kind of block out
Speaker 3: people sixty and above if they're an independent or a
Speaker 3: Democrat or a Republican, because their minds are already made up.
Speaker 2: If you've voted eight straight.
Speaker 3: Elections for one party, it's gonna be really, really hard
Speaker 3: to try to convince you to switch because you're kind
Speaker 3: of said in your ways. Yeah, I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: we can't teach an old dog new tricks.
Speaker 2: Sorry, old people. Well, you look at brand loyalty. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know that that has died. That died some time
Speaker 2: ago too. With younger generations, it used to be like,
Speaker 2: I'm a tied man, I'm a Republican man, I'm a
Speaker 2: you know whatever. It might be younger people don't have
Speaker 2: those loyalties unless it's said that's about it. That's true,
Speaker 2: that's true. Well, you know that's more of a cost
Speaker 2: issue than anything, because you know, if you decide I'm
Speaker 2: going Android, your tablet, your laptop, your desktop, your handheld,
Speaker 2: your mobile, all that stuff is now you got to
Speaker 2: swap it all up. He's Kevin Burton Polster of Northern
Speaker 2: Kentucky here, and we're talking about a new study that
Speaker 2: came out from Gallup. They do this every year. A
Speaker 2: record high forty five percent of US adults identify as
Speaker 2: political independence. In the past year, twenty seven percent each
Speaker 2: NFL themselves as Democrats or Republicans, and that that middle part,
Speaker 2: that independent part, becomes critical in elections, he said, about
Speaker 2: ten percent, ten percent will decide the election either way,
Speaker 2: which is why we go back and forth the days
Speaker 2: of FDR where we have multiple terms feel like that
Speaker 2: is it's definitely in the past unless something else changes too.
Speaker 2: Taking into account America's party identification of that match out
Speaker 2: with the twenty seven percent forty seven percent identified as
Speaker 2: Democrats or said they're a independent, it's forty two percent
Speaker 2: with the Republicans. That's a three years I think that
Speaker 2: broke a three stretch in which Republicans held a an
Speaker 2: edge in party affiliation. Is that something that also changes,
Speaker 2: or is the Republican party in decline and once the
Speaker 2: Democrats take power at some point that just swings the
Speaker 2: other way.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's I mean, the Republicans are in charge now,
Speaker 3: and that's why, you know, I mean, people always it's
Speaker 3: the backup quarterback syndrome. You know, if things aren't going well,
Speaker 3: you're always yearning for the backup quarterback. And then once
Speaker 3: the backup quarterback comes in, you're like, well, there's a
Speaker 3: reason why I didn't want him in the first place.
Speaker 3: So I mean, that's just a give and take of
Speaker 3: you know, leading. It's so impossible now to actually get
Speaker 3: above fifty in party.
Speaker 2: Registration or approval.
Speaker 3: You know, you go back to George W. Bush right
Speaker 3: after nine to eleven, he had an eighty seven percent
Speaker 3: approval rating.
Speaker 2: That's on I can't even press about that, you know, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: and that was probably at the time, and oh my god,
Speaker 2: you know, because Lincoln had a probably a bad example
Speaker 2: of Washington, for example, had a ninety nine percent. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and no, that makes sense too, because as divided as
Speaker 2: we are the conservative ideology advantage is shrunk to just
Speaker 2: seven points. That's the smallest ever. And again, I think
Speaker 2: that's just indicase what you're talking about here. And I
Speaker 2: don't know if that I think it could be though,
Speaker 2: that Trump is redefining what conservative means. I'm not even
Speaker 2: sure what conservative means anymore. O.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you know it doesn't mean the small
Speaker 3: governor no small government, because exactly so. But you know,
Speaker 3: Democrats have really had to come to Jesus meeting.
Speaker 2: Kind of this last year.
Speaker 3: You know, it was a really bad messaging point for
Speaker 3: you saying, you know, Trump is a threat of democracy
Speaker 3: when you didn't even have a primary. And I think
Speaker 3: that's the number one reason why Trump won because as
Speaker 3: he took.
Speaker 2: Away, they're not the number one thing to use against.
Speaker 3: Him when you didn't allow an open primary.
Speaker 2: Yeah, where does social media go from here?
Speaker 5: In?
Speaker 2: The Digital Agency mentioned information fragmentation, declining trust and institutions
Speaker 2: like journalism did that'll also fuel the independent identification?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's the I think irony is that
Speaker 3: as we've gotten more educated, we're actually headed more towards
Speaker 3: like another dark age. You know. I also do think
Speaker 3: there's a little bit of kind of a pushback, especially
Speaker 3: with millennials and gen Z. I don't really see a
Speaker 3: lot of millennials on Facebook anymore, right, I feel like
Speaker 3: that time kind of passed for them, you know, in
Speaker 3: a lot of ways. I wonder in you know, fifteen
Speaker 3: twenty years, when we look at the effects of social media,
Speaker 3: how people looked at the cigarette companies in the nineties
Speaker 3: or the early two thousand, the afact gone.
Speaker 2: Right, it's just so the the polars and camps even more,
Speaker 2: you know, it's declining to some degree, you know, asn't
Speaker 2: aside here. I have a family members they moved recently
Speaker 2: and not one of their neighbors, and the first question
Speaker 2: out their mouse was are you Republican? Because everybody in
Speaker 2: the streets Republican. And he used to be like, oh,
Speaker 2: we're Catholic? Are you Catholic? You know where need to
Speaker 2: go to high school? Things like that, and now it's
Speaker 2: it's probably been that way for a while. But I
Speaker 2: think that's kind of interesting, Like that's that's the whole identity,
Speaker 2: right is I'm a Republican or I'm I'm a progressive,
Speaker 2: whatever it might be. More Republicans and progressives here in Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: But you get the idea well, and you even see
Speaker 3: that now people will be like, well, I don't want
Speaker 3: to watch this actor or listen to this thing. It's like,
Speaker 3: as long as they're going to commit a crime like
Speaker 3: r Kelly or P Diddy, like I think, I think
Speaker 3: you're all right. You can disagree with them, but if
Speaker 3: they still make good art, like just go with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Well like back when Senators on carry Right
Speaker 2: and Teresa Hines Kerry and people were boycotting Heinz ketchup
Speaker 2: on Mike. Look, yeah, I don't gore the politics, but
Speaker 2: the only ketchup in the world is Heines Ketchup. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: There's a lot I would put up before I would
Speaker 2: boycott Heinz Ketchup. He is a Kevin Burton Polster advisor
Speaker 2: with Crosstown Consulting in Northern Kentucky. All the best, thanks
Speaker 2: to the Inside, Appreciate you, Thank you, Scott. Enjoy the
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Speaker 5: Now a man who has entertainment reporting, of course through
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Speaker 1: He is ABC Will Gans from New York.
Speaker 2: Goodmorning, Will Haw's life. Life is good. How are you
Speaker 2: I'm fine, I'm fine. Are you ready for the Oscars?
Speaker 2: Do you get to go to the oscars? Do they
Speaker 2: send you there? How's that work for Will Gance?
Speaker 5: You would think that they would, but nope, I will
Speaker 5: be watching at home on the couch. I'm totally totally
Speaker 5: fine with it, not bitter at all.
Speaker 2: Sure you can tell through the phone. Yeah, did they
Speaker 2: even like do they give you like a coupon so
Speaker 2: you can go get big shrimp somewhere in New York
Speaker 2: and then not a coupon nothing. Nothing sounds a bitches anyway,
Speaker 2: I want to get into the oscars in just a
Speaker 2: second here. First, though, Harry styles he's doing double duty.
Speaker 2: He's hosting, he's performing SNL. It happens not too frequently,
Speaker 2: but I guess we get to say he's acting chops.
Speaker 2: I think that's right.
Speaker 5: You know, he just sort of feels ubiquitous at this point.
Speaker 5: Andy Snel is capitalizing on the moment.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: I think, you know, he just he is a star,
Speaker 5: and I think this is going to be a real
Speaker 5: chance for him to flex, you know, a side of
Speaker 5: him that we don't get to see very often. He
Speaker 5: is super charismatic when he's singing on stage and stuff
Speaker 5: like that. I mean, he sold out thirty five performances
Speaker 5: at Madison Square Garden in.
Speaker 2: A row this year.
Speaker 5: So it'll be interesting to see if that charisma or
Speaker 5: how that charisma translates, you know, on the SNL stage
Speaker 5: last week was Ryan Gosling and he knocked it out
Speaker 5: of the park. So it'll be interesting to see how
Speaker 5: Harry stacks up, you know, compared to some of the
Speaker 5: other great hosts of Late.
Speaker 2: Oh it's interesting you don't expect it and watch him
Speaker 2: just kill it. And there have been people in the past,
Speaker 2: like I'm trying to I remember Brian Williams before he
Speaker 2: was before his scandal, he hosted S and Lly kill.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, and that's that's some of the more
Speaker 5: exciting stuff, right, Like when you get someone like Melissa
Speaker 5: McCarthy hosting, you know, you know it's gonna be yeah, exactly,
Speaker 5: and then when someone like Harry Styles comes along, it's like,
Speaker 5: oh wow, okay, you know, I get it.
Speaker 2: I get why people are upset. I thought Ariana Grande
Speaker 2: was wonderful too, same thing.
Speaker 5: She was incredible, excellent, point she was, she was amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and really just like threw herself in. So it'll be
Speaker 5: interesting to see if Harry can can do.
Speaker 1: The same thing.
Speaker 2: Okay, before we get to Oscar related stuff, I know
Speaker 2: that you wanted to mention Young Sherlock, which is Amazon
Speaker 2: Prime Video. We have another of the do you take
Speaker 2: something You're just like, we're going to make this young
Speaker 2: you know, Young Sheldon, Young Young Frankenstein, Young Sherlock. I
Speaker 2: see the idea trend here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it is you know, nothing sells better
Speaker 5: than existing ip something that has a built in fan
Speaker 5: base or whatever. So you're right, instead of doing the
Speaker 5: sequel treatment or the threequel or whatever, let's go in
Speaker 5: the other direction and give a nice prequel story.
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what this is.
Speaker 2: It's it is Guy Richie directed, so it's it's action packed.
Speaker 1: There are those like weird.
Speaker 5: Things where Sherlock sort of goes into his mind and
Speaker 5: is like figuring out, you know, Okay, I just witnessed this, this,
Speaker 5: and this, how can I connect the dots here? And
Speaker 5: he is at Oxford University. Moriarty is there with him,
Speaker 5: so that is of course who will end up becoming
Speaker 5: his arch nemesis.
Speaker 1: In you know, later in life.
Speaker 5: But they are buddies in this and they're teaming up
Speaker 5: together to solve a murder mystery on campus. And it's
Speaker 5: a lot of fun. All eight episodes are out. They
Speaker 5: came out last week on Prime Video. So if you're
Speaker 5: into the Sherlock Holmes saying, if you're into murder mysteries
Speaker 5: and action sequences, it's it's.
Speaker 1: A lot of fun to watch.
Speaker 5: And yeah, you could binge the whole thing this weekend
Speaker 5: if you wanted to gotcha.
Speaker 2: So it's he's young, but he's in college.
Speaker 1: Correct, he's not a child?
Speaker 2: Yeah right, So the big mysteries will be like, who
Speaker 2: stole somebody's bong? Somebody left their door open, that's right,
Speaker 2: their laptops stolen? Yeah, right, exactly. I think I think
Speaker 2: my roommates a serial killer. And then you do, okay, good, good.
Speaker 2: That's a good format right there. All right, So Oscars,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna just get to the I think the ones
Speaker 2: most people care about. Of course, we'll be Best Picture,
Speaker 2: and I know the nominees include Sinners, centeml Value, one
Speaker 2: battle after another, Marty Supreme, Hamnet, Frankenstein f won the movie,
Speaker 2: and a couple more in there. So who's gonna win?
Speaker 5: I think it'll be one battle after another. If I
Speaker 5: was a betting man, I think that that's the movie
Speaker 5: to beat. If any movie can beat it, it would
Speaker 5: be Sinners. So Sinners is the most nominated movie in
Speaker 5: OSCARS history. It got sixteen nominations this year.
Speaker 1: But I think right now it's sort of a time.
Speaker 5: Lea versus time less you know, movie battle here, So
Speaker 5: the time lya or movie is one battle after another.
Speaker 5: This is the leo Dicapriole one where it's you know,
Speaker 5: it's sort of a group of like rebels who are
Speaker 5: fighting against an oppressive or fascist sort of governmental structure,
Speaker 5: and you know they're doing everything they can. And then
Speaker 5: Sinners is the one that is setting the Jim Crow
Speaker 5: so south and it's the vampire movie and Michael B.
Speaker 5: Jordan is playing Twins, So they're both great movies. I
Speaker 5: do think it'll be one battle after another that we
Speaker 5: hear for Best Picture, probably Best Director as well, but
Speaker 5: Sinners could pull off a few upsets in some other categories,
Speaker 5: namely Best Actor.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I will really want to see Sinners, but my
Speaker 2: wife won't let me because she hates the whole horror
Speaker 2: anything vampire genre, not a lot. We can't watch it.
Speaker 2: So and she has a job. She's never out of town,
Speaker 2: so it's like, oh, she's gonna go to a town
Speaker 2: I didn't know. I can now I can't. So I'm
Speaker 2: sure it's a great movie. I would like to see
Speaker 2: Michael B. Jordan play Twins, and I like the whole vibe.
Speaker 2: I like the era, I like all that stuff. But
Speaker 2: I'm married, you understand, will and we're not allowed to
Speaker 2: do things.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, at some point, maybe if you're on
Speaker 5: a flight or if someone gets the flu or something,
Speaker 5: it's it's definitely worth watching.
Speaker 2: It's bad enough when I get are you watching war again?
Speaker 2: Are you watching War? Yeah? I amshan, I'm watching War,
Speaker 2: And then she gets that. So if I'm are you
Speaker 2: watching She's never said I be watching a horror movie.
Speaker 2: I'd probably be thrown out of the house. So, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm only allowed to do certain things. I go where
Speaker 2: I'm kicked one battle after another. That was fantastic. And
Speaker 2: speaking of which, I know that Leo DiCaprio obviously is
Speaker 2: nominated for Best Actor in there, but he's up against
Speaker 2: again Michael B. Jordan. From what I understand, at least
Speaker 2: from the clips I've seen on YouTube, Michael B. Jordan
Speaker 2: puts on a hell of her performance.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know, you consider that for so much
Speaker 5: of it, you know, he was acting with no scene
Speaker 5: partner because he would have to film both sides of
Speaker 5: his you know, dialogue. If he's playing twins, you know,
Speaker 5: he would be acting with nothing in return and then
Speaker 5: doing the other end of the scene, you know, as
Speaker 5: the other twin. And so that's a challenge in and
Speaker 5: of itself, and he definitely did a great job.
Speaker 1: The other Best.
Speaker 5: Actor contender would be Timothy Shalomey for Marty Supreme. So
Speaker 5: you know, it's an interesting race here because at the
Speaker 5: beginning of Awards season, when we're doing the Critics Circle
Speaker 5: and the Golden Globes and stuff, Timothy was winning and
Speaker 5: winning and winning. And then just in the last couple
Speaker 5: of weeks, Michael B. Jordan won the SAG Award and
Speaker 5: then Timothy had this weird little interview with Matthew McConaughey
Speaker 5: where he said something like to the effect of, you know,
Speaker 5: I'm glad I make movies instead of you know, doing
Speaker 5: ballet or opera, which.
Speaker 1: No one really cares about anymore.
Speaker 5: And as you can imagine, in you know these artsy communities,
Speaker 5: that didn't go over very well. So you know, his
Speaker 5: campaign sort of in the like just you know, in
Speaker 5: the final stretch here just sort of hit a big hiccup.
Speaker 2: I didn't go after the voting closed, though, right, so
Speaker 2: I want to affect them. I mean it, I think
Speaker 2: it started.
Speaker 5: There were a few days last when he said it,
Speaker 5: but it really blew up after voting clothes. But you know,
Speaker 5: for anyone who was waiting at the very tail end
Speaker 5: of of you know the Lord, Yeah it.
Speaker 2: Might what do you make that? I look at that
Speaker 2: and go, okay, well, HI been wrong. Uh, And like
Speaker 2: I would think that the people who vote for the
Speaker 2: Oscars would also be in that same category. I get
Speaker 2: that the artsy factor here, and you probably shouldn't crap
Speaker 2: on the arts or anything, but yeah, you speaking truth.
Speaker 2: I don't know how you hold that against him, if
Speaker 2: you're either he's this actor he's not. I don't I
Speaker 2: don't get why you take points off for that hold
Speaker 2: of grudge. It's petty.
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, I think, like you know, people might think,
Speaker 5: like if who do we want on the stage, you know,
Speaker 5: the biggest night in Hollywood or whatever speaking to the
Speaker 5: mass is do we want someone who's going to uplift
Speaker 5: all arts communities?
Speaker 1: Or do we want someone who's like, you know, really
Speaker 1: really considering his own path to success?
Speaker 5: You know, I think he sort of has a reputation
Speaker 5: already before saying this stuff. You know, last year he
Speaker 5: was like, I want to be one of the greats.
Speaker 5: I'm not interested in, you know, anything besides being the
Speaker 5: best or whatever. Ye dating Kylie Jenner. So I think
Speaker 5: there's like a little bit of like people are sort.
Speaker 1: Of like, what is this guy here for?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 1: And so those comments didn't help, all.
Speaker 2: Right, So he's a bad boy and he could go
Speaker 2: oh for too here because he didn't win. For a
Speaker 2: complete unun which I thought he was fantastic in is
Speaker 2: Bob Dylan and probably will lose to Michael B. Jorge,
Speaker 2: is what you're thinking.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 2: Twitch, You're thinking Bettman supporting actor real quick. It seems
Speaker 2: like Sean Penn is a lock in this. I mean
Speaker 2: he was. He was fantastic and want to battle after
Speaker 2: another Like, I didn't know how you could do better
Speaker 2: job acting than Sean Penn, did? I agree?
Speaker 1: I agree, he was amazing in it.
Speaker 5: I think the only other person who might pull off
Speaker 5: an upset here would be Stelling Scars Guard for sentimental value.
Speaker 5: But I do think it's Sean Penn's to lose. But
Speaker 5: the interesting thing is that, like Sean Penn has declared
Speaker 5: he doesn't care about awards or anything like that, so
Speaker 5: he might.
Speaker 2: Not even be there on the you know, yeah, he's
Speaker 2: won enough already, all right, So best supporting actors go.
Speaker 4: Madigan.
Speaker 5: I think for weapons she's like horrifying in the movie.
Speaker 5: This is one that your wife would definitely never let
Speaker 5: you watch. But she's amazing in weapons and she has
Speaker 5: I think it's been like forty years since her last nomination,
Speaker 5: so it would be like a real full circle.
Speaker 1: Moment should she win.
Speaker 5: But it could be Teana Taylor, who was in one
Speaker 5: battle after another, that could take it if it's not
Speaker 5: Amy Madigan.
Speaker 2: All right, so you got Oscars happening on Sunday and
Speaker 2: Conan O'Brien the host again, that's correct.
Speaker 5: And they start at seven Eastern this year, so it's
Speaker 5: an hour earlier, which is kind of nice. You won't
Speaker 5: have to be up till eleven to see who takes
Speaker 5: home best Picture.
Speaker 2: I think I'm hysterical, so I definitely watch the beginning
Speaker 2: see what he does. Will Gance, I know you got
Speaker 2: to get going, brother, appreciate it. Have a great weekend.
Speaker 2: Thanks you two. Take care.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: You can catch him at at will Gans with two
Speaker 2: s's and not a big oscar guy or b. I
Speaker 2: just don't care about award show. I think that Timothy
Speaker 2: Shallow may things interesting in that you know they would
Speaker 2: hold the he said about about ballet in theater and
Speaker 2: the dismissal of ballet and opera. It's like, how many
Speaker 2: people are really going to opera anymore? Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: they're amazing singers, there's no question about it, but most
Speaker 2: people are like, it's just there's more entertainment options out there.
Speaker 2: And I would say the same of ballet. It is
Speaker 2: really back of the room, highbrow stuff. If that's what
Speaker 2: you're into. Cool. But at the same time, it's like
Speaker 2: he's not lying, it's about saying even that's kind of
Speaker 2: fading as well. It's it's getting even more about the
Speaker 2: small screen than it is the big screen. It all
Speaker 2: changes over a period of time. You know, baroque music
Speaker 2: isn't the thing anymore. I don't think if you admitted
Speaker 2: that would they hold it against you because it's entire
Speaker 2: It's all petty, right, is that either you're the best
Speaker 2: actor or not. It shouldn't weigh in what what your
Speaker 2: personal beliefs are about other arts. But they're going to
Speaker 2: hold that against which again makes more people want to
Speaker 2: watch things like the Oscars less because it's a bunch
Speaker 2: of insider bs. And then politics, of course, I'll rever
Speaker 2: it's ugly ahead and I just I don't. I don't
Speaker 2: have any room in my room for the Oscars or
Speaker 2: Ward shows generally speaking, but I will say that I
Speaker 2: saw Timothy challow May and A Complete Unknown was fantastic,
Speaker 2: Like he learned how to he learned to be Bob
Speaker 2: Dylan for that movie. It's insane, kind of like, I
Speaker 2: don't know if it was what it was nominated for,
Speaker 2: maybe soundtrack, but the Springsteen movie was phenomenal. It was
Speaker 2: not about, oh, you know, it's as predictable, you know,
Speaker 2: here's the band and everybody together. It was about him
Speaker 2: coming up in Nebraska and he wanted to do this
Speaker 2: project and pretty much everyone in the studio was against
Speaker 2: it and saying, what the hell are you doing here
Speaker 2: recording out a boombox? And it turned out to be
Speaker 2: a classic album, so you know, again, he learned, Jeremy
Speaker 2: Allen White learned how to play guitarans and like Springsteen,
Speaker 2: if you go to a I Know iHeart radio app
Speaker 2: or Spotify where you get your music from download, he
Speaker 2: has like a mini ep out of the music that
Speaker 2: he's saying it's him singing, and he absolutely crushes a
Speaker 2: number of songs on there. You're like, holy crap. He
Speaker 2: sounds just like Bruce Springsteen, absolutely amazing, and Timothy Shallamy
Speaker 2: same way and complete unknown. So anyway, but I think
Speaker 2: that I did see and you may have seen it
Speaker 2: as well, one battle after another, and you know, not
Speaker 2: only was DiCaprio grade, and but Sean Penn was incredible
Speaker 2: in that movie and it kind of overshadowed everything else,
Speaker 2: but phenomenal film. So I could see that women big
Speaker 2: anyway on Sunday. Anyway, there you go, there you go,
Speaker 2: There you go, there you go. You can tell it's
Speaker 2: Award season two Oscar season because of all the celebrities there.
Speaker 2: Somebody I've seen Matthew Broderick who haven't seen in years
Speaker 2: on two different networks. I think it was in GMA.
Speaker 2: And Matthew Brodrick's one of those guys as you know
Speaker 2: you remember him, of course, a young Matthew Broderick, but
Speaker 2: older Matthew Broderick. We're getting older, you know, get a
Speaker 2: little thicker. We all always got to go. The older
Speaker 2: he gets, the more he looks like Kathy Bates. It's
Speaker 2: the most incredible thing. Literally, if they did a Kathy
Speaker 2: Bates biopick, I would cast Matthew Broderick. To play Kathy Bates.
Speaker 2: It's getting answered next twenty years. Watch him age. Some
Speaker 2: people do that, They get older and they just men
Speaker 2: morph into women. You know what I'm talking about. Next
Speaker 2: time you see Matthew brought to go, he's turning to
Speaker 2: Kathy Bates over here. All right, let's get a news
Speaker 2: update in very latest from on the world course. We've
Speaker 2: got war going on, we've got terrorist attacks, and we'll
Speaker 2: take it a little bit more serious. Coming up here
Speaker 2: in just minutes, Doctor Alex del Carman, who is a
Speaker 2: terrorism and mass shooting expert, will discuss what the hell
Speaker 2: happened yesterday. The war has definitely made it to the
Speaker 2: home front here. What does this mean for us here
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati. We'll get into that next on the Home
Speaker 2: of the Red seven hundred WW cincinnat I don't.
Speaker 1: Want to be an American idiot.
Speaker 2: It's loanly here. Seven hundred WLW. Two terrorist attacks in
Speaker 2: one day on American solo at the synagogue in Detroit,
Speaker 2: rammed by a vehicle and an Isis length gunman targeting
Speaker 2: ROTC College students in Virginia, Pro Iranian group wiping out
Speaker 2: a major American companies network and striker and the FBA
Speaker 2: warning of possible drone attacks off the California coast. Definitely,
Speaker 2: the war has hit the homeland. And on that this
Speaker 2: morning on seven hundred ww is doctor Alex del Carmen.
Speaker 2: He's a terrorism and mass shooting expert at Tarleton State University.
Speaker 2: Doctor Alex, welcome back, How you been?
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty disturbing and how quickly we saw events like
Speaker 2: this occur. Although I would suggest, and it seems to
Speaker 2: indicate that even the guy who's an ISIS link gunman
Speaker 2: wasn't maybe motivated motivated by ISIS. He tried to jone
Speaker 2: ice at one time, and then the attack at the
Speaker 2: synagogue in Detroit or outside of Detroita, I should say,
Speaker 2: they feel like lone wolf attacks. Are we going to
Speaker 2: see more of this in the near future?
Speaker 6: Unfortunately, I think that most of the intelligence that he
Speaker 6: is coming into the FBI and other federal agencies does
Speaker 6: suggest that. Right, So we're going to be seeing these
Speaker 6: things pop up from time to time, and hopefully not
Speaker 6: not in terms of frequency.
Speaker 2: Yeah, two attacks in one day, as I said, and
Speaker 2: I would include in there too, the cyber attack on
Speaker 2: Striker also out of Michigan and the FBI warnings of
Speaker 2: Iranian drones off the California coast. None of this seems to.
Speaker 4: Look at it from the standpoint of terrorism.
Speaker 6: The Iranians for some time have been building the infrastructure,
Speaker 6: not only in the United States but in Europe to
Speaker 6: be able to activate their cells, and so the question is,
Speaker 6: right now, do they have the capacity and do.
Speaker 4: They have the willingness to do this. The willingness is there,
Speaker 4: there's no question.
Speaker 6: They pretty much have segregated their command and control structure
Speaker 6: to let these cells do as they please. But the order,
Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure the order has come out right that
Speaker 6: they want to rize Americans.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I would say the ROTC shooting is one individual.
Speaker 2: He had ties to ISIS, He spent time in prison
Speaker 2: for that, financial support and backing of ISIS, and then
Speaker 2: comes out and does this. As tragic as that is
Speaker 2: because one student did die so as a shooter, thank
Speaker 2: god that that was more of a lone wolf the
Speaker 2: one in Michigan and West Bloomfield, though outside of Detroit.
Speaker 2: The synagogue that the attacker drove a truckloaded with explosives
Speaker 2: into the largest reformed synagogue there one hundred and forty
Speaker 2: kids inside. Fortunately, they were fine and the individual shot
Speaker 2: to death by security. But as far as a tactical
Speaker 2: profile goes here, what does that tell you about the
Speaker 2: level of plan involved in that one.
Speaker 6: It means that they have planned it for a while,
Speaker 6: they were just waiting to execute it, right, So I
Speaker 6: think that that ultimately these folks are getting all their
Speaker 6: tools ready.
Speaker 4: They've had him for some time. And that's what I
Speaker 4: was saying earlier.
Speaker 6: I think the concern right now is how capable and
Speaker 6: how willing are they to go out there and execute
Speaker 6: all of these things. And that's what worries law enforcement
Speaker 6: because these are so difficult to detect and even more
Speaker 6: difficult to prevent.
Speaker 2: Doctor del Carmen on that too. Yeah, you just don't
Speaker 2: wake up and go, okay, I'll get some explosives that
Speaker 2: they had to be sitting on that for a while.
Speaker 6: Right, there's no question and that actually, you know, I'm
Speaker 6: pretty sure they're going to find out as the FBI
Speaker 6: goes into a deep dive here and find out where
Speaker 6: this guy House guy became radicalized. Now he was able
Speaker 6: to acquire all of these explosives. That is probably over
Speaker 6: the course of years that this has actually been planned.
Speaker 6: And like I said, they were probably just waiting for
Speaker 6: that execution order. They received it and off they went.
Speaker 2: Do you think a bombing like that with a truck
Speaker 2: bomb it's one person or does that usually indicate there's
Speaker 2: at least another person, if not more involved.
Speaker 6: It could be one person, but there could be others
Speaker 6: that are at the very least aware of the fact
Speaker 6: that this person is acquiring all these goods for no
Speaker 6: legitimate purposes, right, And they just used not to say anything.
Speaker 6: And that's part of the problem is you've got a
Speaker 6: whole bunch of people that are going to be collaborating
Speaker 6: without them even.
Speaker 4: Knowing that they're collaborating.
Speaker 6: By in some other cases, you know they're going to
Speaker 6: be held accountable, right, And that's what's important for the
Speaker 6: public to know.
Speaker 2: Relative to the shooting at Old Dominion in Norfolk, Virginia,
Speaker 2: this individual served I think seven of eleven years for
Speaker 2: ISIS supporting based on material support of ISIS. They released
Speaker 2: him in December of twenty twenty four. Was this an
Speaker 2: ideologically motivated symbolic target? I mean the targeting itself. I
Speaker 2: guess the question is was he should if he been
Speaker 2: on the radar? Because today there's a lot of second guessing.
Speaker 2: Is wait a minute, this guy was a relative in
Speaker 2: prison for material support of isis he gets out and
Speaker 2: then pulls this stup? Why weren't we watching him? Will
Speaker 2: be the question? Or is that just simply like you
Speaker 2: can't watch everybody?
Speaker 4: That's exactly right?
Speaker 6: A little bit of both, right, So, so on the
Speaker 6: one hand, the FBI has limited capacity to watch every
Speaker 6: single person that's been on the radar screen. But on
Speaker 6: the other hand, they should have been watching this guy
Speaker 6: because this guy obviously had a record and you know,
Speaker 6: and I'm.
Speaker 4: Sure pretty sure that he went about planning this event.
Speaker 6: There must have been some certain own electronic trail of
Speaker 6: some sort.
Speaker 4: That he must have had.
Speaker 6: And the bottom line is that they would have been
Speaker 6: able to prevent it had they been able to identify
Speaker 6: it earlier.
Speaker 4: So you know, I often say, let's give law enforcement.
Speaker 6: And break and you know, this is a huge beast
Speaker 6: to be able to identify all the time and be
Speaker 6: right one hundred percent of the time. But at the
Speaker 6: same time, there are some of these outliers that they
Speaker 6: need to be paying attention to, all right.
Speaker 2: The other thing, too, was he asked if was an
Speaker 2: ROTC class before you open fire, and I think that's
Speaker 2: the statement right there, as he deliberately targeted military student
Speaker 2: students who are in class for reserve officer training in
Speaker 2: an area, by the way, surrounded by military infrastructure. Norfolk
Speaker 2: is is where the Norfolk it's a naval air station there,
Speaker 2: so in airbase, but also aircraft carrieres and alikes. So
Speaker 2: Norfolk huge military community. The fact that he targeted ROTC
Speaker 2: students American military with a war with Iran, that's easy
Speaker 2: to put together.
Speaker 6: That's the statement, that's right. And also keep in mind
Speaker 6: these are soft targets. Right when you go to an
Speaker 6: ROTC place, whether it's in a college or in a
Speaker 6: high school, you often find that people are not armed.
Speaker 6: You know, there's it's really easy to be able to
Speaker 6: access the place and and find real military heroes that
Speaker 6: have been deployed overseas that are now senior reserve officers
Speaker 6: that are simply training the young ones to become officers
Speaker 6: in the future.
Speaker 4: So it's it's.
Speaker 6: Symbolic of not only the target, but also who is
Speaker 6: actually targeting, which is the future officers of the United
Speaker 6: States military.
Speaker 2: So it was ROTC students that killed the gunman in
Speaker 2: the synagogue. It was a private security detail that stopped
Speaker 2: the truck. Attacker crashes in the building, they fire, they
Speaker 2: kill him. No one else heard in that, thank god,
Speaker 2: with all those kids in there. So you had trained
Speaker 2: civilians and trained security person I'll not police the first
Speaker 2: line of defense there. Boy. For those who are saying, hey, listen,
Speaker 2: only police should have guns in law enforcement, that's the problem.
Speaker 2: This is a case for good guys with guns. If
Speaker 2: I ever heard.
Speaker 4: One that, that's exactly right. And for years I've been
Speaker 4: saying that the Second.
Speaker 6: Amendment is as every important as it it's just ever
Speaker 6: bid right, particularly because law enforcement is.
Speaker 4: Rather limited in what it can do.
Speaker 6: They cannot be everywhere all the time, and the good
Speaker 6: guys have to actually be able to have the access
Speaker 6: to the weaponry in order to be able to defend
Speaker 6: their property. They're low ones and everyone else for that matter.
Speaker 6: So absolutely this makes this statement that you know, the
Speaker 6: good people and in society need to be the ice
Speaker 6: and years of law enforcement. The first call to duty
Speaker 6: is to actually be reported if you can, but if
Speaker 6: it requires immediate action, then you basically intervene.
Speaker 2: We saw this with other terrorist attacks. Doctor Alex del
Speaker 2: Carmen from Charleston State University too, is an expert on
Speaker 2: the show on seven hundred WW. The two attacks yesterday
Speaker 2: is that the Oakland County Sheriff there in Michigan said,
Speaker 2: just two weeks ago they're warning about this exact kind
Speaker 2: of attack on juice institutions, law enforcement seas is coming.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's conspiracies out there already floating around the
Speaker 2: interwebs about how, well, if they knew what it was,
Speaker 2: why didn't they stop this in the first place, Because
Speaker 2: it harkens back to nine to eleven that we kind
Speaker 2: of knew something was up with the increased chatter, but
Speaker 2: we didn't know when, where, and how.
Speaker 6: That's the problem exactly, And just because you have increased chatter,
Speaker 6: it doesn't mean that something's going to happen, right, So
Speaker 6: imagine the thousands of times that law enforcement is exposed
Speaker 6: to the increased chatter, maybe non specific intelligence about you know,
Speaker 6: Americans being heard overseas or domestically, and then all of
Speaker 6: a sudden nothing happens, right, So law enforcement has to
Speaker 6: be careful to be able to assess the origins or
Speaker 6: where the information is coming from, how authentic it is,
Speaker 6: how feasible it is, and whether or not the bad
Speaker 6: guys have the ability to carry it out. I mean,
Speaker 6: you have a lot of Wanta bees right overseas that
Speaker 6: send all sorts of bad wishes to Americans, and we
Speaker 6: have to take everyone seriously. But at the same time
Speaker 6: you also have to dissect which ones are the ones
Speaker 6: that are more realistic and the ones that have the
Speaker 6: capability of doing harm.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So the FBI is now juggling a synagogue attack,
Speaker 2: we have the university terrorism case RTC shooting. We've got
Speaker 2: the Striker cyber attack, which is massive drone threat warning,
Speaker 2: sleeper selling ourself. All these things are going on simultaneously.
Speaker 2: Is the FBI resourced and organized enough to manage that
Speaker 2: kind of multi threat environment? In your opinion?
Speaker 6: They are well trained, right, But at the same time,
Speaker 6: keep in mind too that many of the FBI agents
Speaker 6: are being sent to.
Speaker 4: Other tasks and so while the world is.
Speaker 6: Still now chaotic in many ways, and they're trying to
Speaker 6: activate all their personnel to try to prevent these things
Speaker 6: from happening and responding to those events that have actually occurred.
Speaker 6: Just to have resources that have to be allocated, personnel
Speaker 6: that you have to hire or bring in as contractors.
Speaker 4: I mean it's a challenge. I mean, I'm not gonna
Speaker 4: I'm gonna lie to you.
Speaker 6: I think it's it's a significant challenge going forward, especially
Speaker 6: if these things increase in the coming months.
Speaker 2: Uh US in intelligence intercept would appear to be encrypted
Speaker 2: radio activation signal after Committee's death, which was possibly meant
Speaker 2: for sleeper cell asses inside the US. And how seriously
Speaker 2: should we take that because I don't know encrypted radio activation?
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you just call somebody on their cell phone
Speaker 2: or send send some sort of coded email.
Speaker 6: One of the one of the greatest capabilities that the
Speaker 6: United States has in terms of its intelligence resource network
Speaker 6: is audio. Right, So so we hear a lot of
Speaker 6: the things that are going on overseas by the bad
Speaker 6: guys planning bad things against Americans.
Speaker 4: But I will tell you that the encrypted part doesn't
Speaker 4: doesn't really surprise me. That's how they operate.
Speaker 6: I think we absolutely need to take it seriously, and
Speaker 6: we have to assume that more of these attacks are
Speaker 6: going to take place, and we have to take every
Speaker 6: single precaution that we can.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the striker cybertech, I'm talking a lot of about
Speaker 2: that yesterday, Doctor del Carman that's a medical device company.
Speaker 2: You know, we've seen hospital attacks. We had that here
Speaker 2: in the Miami Valley, most recently up in the Dayton area.
Speaker 2: We had that here in Cincinnati a little bit too,
Speaker 2: and we see it all over the place. But this
Speaker 2: one went after a medical device company, not a hospital,
Speaker 2: not a power grid, and you hit the supply chain
Speaker 2: and the medical company that strikers so big it supplies
Speaker 2: all hospitals. They have at least some Striker products in there.
Speaker 2: You hit that in cascades the damage and so what
Speaker 2: are industries now, what do you think they should be
Speaker 2: terrified looking at next? Would it be water? Would it
Speaker 2: be electricity? One?
Speaker 4: Possibly?
Speaker 6: And I think that this was actually one of those
Speaker 6: things where they actually are testing out their capability, right,
Speaker 6: and the effect of that capability. Oftentimes we see these
Speaker 6: in cyber attacks where they basically go towards the random
Speaker 6: you know, medical component in this case, or they can
Speaker 6: go to air you know, limited air component that they
Speaker 6: actually try to disrupt, and all they're trying to see
Speaker 6: is how we react to it, how quickly we react
Speaker 6: to it, and what or not they have an any
Speaker 6: degree or potency of interruption in some of those devices.
Speaker 6: And so I think what I'm bracing myself for and
Speaker 6: what I think a lot of CEOs or this big
Speaker 6: co companies should be concerned about is what's next and
Speaker 6: how capable are they to be able to break into
Speaker 6: those components and then perhaps even limit the water resources
Speaker 6: that have the electric resources that we have the FAA.
Speaker 6: I mean, there's so many things that operate based on
Speaker 6: electronic devices and more importantly the Internet, that I think
Speaker 6: that we are incredibly vulnerable to what they're going to do.
Speaker 6: And and the Iranians are known for that, right. The Arenas
Speaker 6: have a long history of being able to partner with
Speaker 6: the Russians and the Chinese and interrupt the American way
Speaker 6: of life.
Speaker 2: They do it all the time.
Speaker 6: They actually have tackles all the time, just that people
Speaker 6: don't know about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you have all these attacks happening simultaneously. Wonder
Speaker 2: where the next shoe is to drop? And the one
Speaker 2: that hasn't fortunately taken place is we had intelligence that
Speaker 2: Iranian drones could be launch from a vessel off the
Speaker 2: California coast. They have an established presence, meaning Iran and
Speaker 2: their operators in Mexico and in South America. How realistic.
Speaker 2: A thread is that.
Speaker 4: I think it can it can't happen.
Speaker 6: I don't know that I would be worried about it
Speaker 6: per se, you know, way forward in the next couple
Speaker 6: of days.
Speaker 4: But you know, I think that the.
Speaker 6: Fact that this is out and for the public to
Speaker 6: consume it means that they have enough information and that
Speaker 6: is feasible that they could do this right. They're not
Speaker 6: just going to bring this up as a hypothetical and.
Speaker 4: We're going to dream about it overnight and then let
Speaker 4: people worry about it. There has to be some many diligence.
Speaker 4: I'm guessing that they would.
Speaker 6: They would simply be able to put together that says, look,
Speaker 6: they have the capability, they have their resources, and they
Speaker 6: can in fact do it. I have no doubt that
Speaker 6: there are many plans taking place for now on how
Speaker 6: to harm Americans, both overseas and in the homeland. And
Speaker 6: we have to we have to be vigilant twenty four
Speaker 6: to seven, especially now in the coming months.
Speaker 2: Because you have the war in Iran, you have Iranian
Speaker 2: link cyber operations we're talking about against corporations and probably
Speaker 2: more are coming. You got sleeper cell warnings, you got
Speaker 2: drone alerts, you got two Domestica tear attacks in single
Speaker 2: day yesterday. Do we need to pivot our national response here?
Speaker 2: Are Are we still organized like we were for nine
Speaker 2: to eleven because this is happening on different platforms all simultaneously.
Speaker 2: Do we need to regroup and rethink about how we
Speaker 2: attack terrorism here? Well?
Speaker 6: I think that part of the issue is, you know,
Speaker 6: we have a partial government shutdown, we have limited resources
Speaker 6: that are being fed into the fetch right now. You know,
Speaker 6: our attention is overseas right now, trying to provide resources
Speaker 6: to our military. We've got several campaigns going on at
Speaker 6: the same time. We've got Ukraine, don't forget about Venezuela
Speaker 6: and some of the things that are still going on
Speaker 6: over there, you know. And then now you have you around,
Speaker 6: you have the UAE being involved, you have the the Saudas,
Speaker 6: You've got the you know, the oil import capabilities.
Speaker 4: All of that is.
Speaker 6: Happening at once, and the economy is being affected, right
Speaker 6: and so all of these things take a lot of
Speaker 6: money and resources, and so where's the money going to
Speaker 6: come from?
Speaker 4: At some point?
Speaker 6: Once these barrels of oil are going to be at
Speaker 6: two hundred and three hundred dollars a barrel.
Speaker 2: No question. Before the synagogue attacker and the Old Dominion attacker, no,
Speaker 2: Typically we catch people and interrogate them and find it.
Speaker 2: But they're both dead, so no interrogation, we can't harvest
Speaker 2: intelligence there. How much does that set the investigation back
Speaker 2: or does it?
Speaker 4: I think it does to some degree. But the assumption
Speaker 4: is that bad guys are going to.
Speaker 6: Talk to us after they're being arrested, right, And many
Speaker 6: of these people are so radicalized that they're not going
Speaker 6: to be talking to us anyway, So I would say
Speaker 6: that it's limited.
Speaker 4: Of course, we always like to have people in are
Speaker 4: a lives.
Speaker 6: Talk to us and tell us why, perhaps even brag
Speaker 6: about it, so that we can gather intel. But the
Speaker 6: reality is we have digital intelligence that we're always going
Speaker 6: to be able to access. Right who these people were texting,
Speaker 6: who these people calling?
Speaker 4: Where did they buy some of the stuff.
Speaker 6: That they bought? Have they been overseas? Do they have
Speaker 6: any relatives that could have helped them?
Speaker 4: All of those questions are going.
Speaker 6: To have answers, and that's all intel that we gather.
Speaker 6: Sometimes we don't prosecute on it because we don't have
Speaker 6: enough to do so. But we certainly have enough information
Speaker 6: to be able to track down where the resources came from.
Speaker 2: Should we expect more micro events like this where they're
Speaker 2: connected obviously because of Iran, but not coordinated in much
Speaker 2: like it was nine to eleven? Can we expect more
Speaker 2: attacks like this, cyber attacks and everything included, versus one
Speaker 2: big attack on America like we saw back in two
Speaker 2: thousand and one.
Speaker 4: I think we can expect anything.
Speaker 6: To be honest with you, I wish I could rule
Speaker 6: some things out, but the reality is that.
Speaker 4: We don't know what we don't know about these.
Speaker 6: Bad actors, and quite frankly, we have to be ready
Speaker 6: for a ninety eleven type of response. We have to
Speaker 6: be ready for what they're going to imagine and how
Speaker 6: they're going to be harming Americas. But remember that part
Speaker 6: of the ninety eleven scenario why they.
Speaker 4: Hurt us so badly, aside from the loss of life
Speaker 4: from that.
Speaker 6: Day, was the fact that we could have never imagined
Speaker 6: people were going to be, you know, flying airplanes into
Speaker 6: buildings and killing in US, in Americans, and so part
Speaker 6: of it is the imagination that bad guys have.
Speaker 4: We have to be ahead of that, and we have
Speaker 4: to we have to think the unthinkable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. Doctor Alex Dell Kerman is a
Speaker 2: terrorist mass shooting expert at Tarlatan State University. Thanks jumping
Speaker 2: on this morning. I appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: Take care. We've got a news update here just seconds away.
Speaker 2: And the big one, that's the thing is we have
Speaker 2: all these day we have, you know, the cyber attack
Speaker 2: element to me is the big one because much of
Speaker 2: the stuff, whether it's bombings, gun attacks and like it's
Speaker 2: it's going to contin and we've had it ever since
Speaker 2: for sure, but those are more isolated than one central
Speaker 2: big attack which could still possibly happen. And he said,
Speaker 2: but the cyber attack thing, to me is the one
Speaker 2: that I mean literally you want to bring America down
Speaker 2: to its knees is start messing with the infrastructure, the grid.
Speaker 2: Look at the Striker thing and how they're able to
Speaker 2: basically wipe out all of the data from a company
Speaker 2: and one file of the backups and everything that they
Speaker 2: have no data left whatsoever, everything that was in the
Speaker 2: cloud and their system's completely wiped out and gone in
Speaker 2: the backups too. And it's not a malware attack and
Speaker 2: not ho was sitting hostage and saying, hey, pay us money,
Speaker 2: we'll give you the information back. It's gone. I mean,
Speaker 2: think about that. We have P and G, we have banking,
Speaker 2: we have sententimes, we have all sorts of big companies
Speaker 2: like that, just in Cincinnati alone. It's frightening, isn't it sloany?
Speaker 2: Seven hundred w all the here we go, Big Sexy
Speaker 2: is here Austin elmore over on ESPN fifteen thirty in
Speaker 2: on his day off. Technically, because you have what Kentucky
Speaker 2: basketball today, on third.
Speaker 7: Day in a row. Kentucky Basketball has preempted our shows.
Speaker 2: How about that they still be here. Yeah, that's great
Speaker 2: for the Commonwealth of Kentucky. In the state of Ohio, however,
Speaker 2: specifically Southwest Ohio, we suck. Not good, dude, not good
Speaker 2: at all. We suck. Let's begin with the obvious one.
Speaker 2: Here is the fact that the UMass took care of
Speaker 2: Miami's perfect record eighty seven eighty three. The eight seed
Speaker 2: upsets the number one, and Miami finishes a regular season
Speaker 2: at thirty one and oh now their best hope is
Speaker 2: for an at large NCAA. But I think this is
Speaker 2: the fear that they lose their in the tournament. In
Speaker 2: the MAC Tournament, and now it's a coin toss whether
Speaker 2: than they make the field of for the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's one thing to lose in the NCAA Tournament
Speaker 7: or to lose in the MAC Tournament. It's another thing
Speaker 7: to lose the first game in the MAC tournament. Uh,
Speaker 7: not even getting to the semi finals or to the final.
Speaker 7: But I think thirty one to zero perfect regular season,
Speaker 7: I think that's enough for Miami to get in, even
Speaker 7: though they lost that game to UMass yesterday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because some actually saying no chance. But you know,
Speaker 2: last time this happened was ninety nine. I remember this.
Speaker 2: It was on Miami and Kent right that both made it.
Speaker 2: As one was say at large, I don't know why
Speaker 2: they can't happen again. I mean, I know that there's
Speaker 2: bigger schools out there, but there's a number of teams
Speaker 2: getting in that just don't pass the sniff test. Miami
Speaker 2: at least does perfect record. You gotta give them something, Yeah, I.
Speaker 7: Agree, I mean they always everybody wants to talk about
Speaker 7: their strength to schedule being three hundred and fortieth or
Speaker 7: whatever all that, but the other teams that are three
Speaker 7: hundred and thirty ninth and three hundred and forty. First,
Speaker 7: they're not undefeated. Miami went undefeated. They still were able
Speaker 7: to do that. And on top of that, some of
Speaker 7: these other teams that have been quote unquote bubble teams
Speaker 7: over the last week or so, they keep losing. Cincinnati
Speaker 7: is a perfect example of that. I think the best
Speaker 7: team that kind of was on the bubble over the
Speaker 7: last two weeks has actually been Ohio State. They've gotten
Speaker 7: hot and they've basically secured their spot in the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 7: But outside of that, nobody really wants to be in
Speaker 7: the tournament. Auburn lost again yesterday, So I think Miami
Speaker 7: is safe.
Speaker 2: Okay on that, and you know you want to see
Speaker 2: Miami and at least when go through the first round,
Speaker 2: hopefully get in the tournament. For sure, there are best
Speaker 2: hopes because u SE is out of it completely lost
Speaker 2: in ot and I have never seen and I've followed
Speaker 2: Cincinnati sports as long i've been here into the Bearcats.
Speaker 2: I've got bear Cat alums of my family that are
Speaker 2: just our season ticket holders, ravenous Bearcat fans, and I've
Speaker 2: become one through osmosis, and I have never seen the
Speaker 2: fan base this angry about a loss in a long time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they should be angry.
Speaker 7: I mean they blew another lead, and this time to
Speaker 7: a team that in UCF that certainly is beatable. They
Speaker 7: were in position to win that game and.
Speaker 2: Just left. I mean, it's you can't you can't collapse
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 7: They did what they have done repeatedly over the West
Speaker 7: Miller era, which is that they go ice cold in
Speaker 7: the biggest moments on offense and they are brain dead
Speaker 7: the rest of the way. I mean, you can't get
Speaker 7: the ball over the timeline, results in a ten second violation,
Speaker 7: absolutely inexcusable, and then Wes Miller himself calls a time
Speaker 7: out with less than a second left because he was
Speaker 7: afraid they were going to sub that sort of stuff
Speaker 7: right there, as Terry Nelson put it. And good on
Speaker 7: Terry for saying it is low IQ basketball. He didn't
Speaker 7: use this word, but I will. They're a stupid basketball team,
Speaker 7: and I think that's a reflection of their head coach,
Speaker 7: who has repeatedly failed.
Speaker 2: In the biggest moments over and over and over again. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and sadly enough, because of the protection's nature, this whole
Speaker 2: thing is there are two losses for use Yester, you
Speaker 2: lost that game against UCF, but he also lost. Sean Trick.
Speaker 2: I saw that he was angry and he puts up
Speaker 2: up in the universe, is like, well, we expect to
Speaker 2: you expect more positive as an alumni, and he's like,
Speaker 2: the hell with you, guys, I want to talk about
Speaker 2: you again. It's so stupid.
Speaker 7: It's so stupid for people to act like that and
Speaker 7: think like everybody has to be able to be a
Speaker 7: boot licker.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, that's just so stupid, insane. You played like crap.
Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, so you should demand and want and
Speaker 7: expect more.
Speaker 2: Yeah did so? This is this, It is this the
Speaker 2: the tipping point. And the tipping point is not the
Speaker 2: fans are angry and the way they lost this thing,
Speaker 2: but it's the alumni in specifically the boosters. Is change coming?
Speaker 7: That's a good question. That's a good question, man, because so, like,
Speaker 7: I mean, he.
Speaker 2: Saved his job near the end and then this one
Speaker 2: any good. Oh yeah, just totally blow up at the
Speaker 2: beginning of the year. You got to remember, at the
Speaker 2: beginning of the year, it was NC doublea tournament or bust. Yes,
Speaker 2: that was the goal. And I have remained steadfast in
Speaker 2: my belief this entire time. I'm not going to move
Speaker 2: the goalposts on Wes Miller. He needs to make the
Speaker 2: nc double A tournament. We've gone through this season where
Speaker 2: he's had meltdowns in the postgame interviews with Dan and Terry.
Speaker 2: He had a meltdown in the tunnel. He was crying
Speaker 2: on one of the post games. He's brought back Jisel
Speaker 2: James randomly in the middle of the season. They've blown
Speaker 2: these leads.
Speaker 7: Then they played like a top five team in the
Speaker 7: country for two weeks, and then they did this again.
Speaker 7: But for me, the goalpost has never moved, which is
Speaker 7: you have to make the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 7: I've heard over the last couple of weeks that he
Speaker 7: did save his job and that the people that are
Speaker 7: in charge of facilitating the finances to that program like
Speaker 7: west Miller and they want him to be the head coach.
Speaker 7: I don't know how you can justify that, especially the
Speaker 7: way the UCF thing has gone. And I talked to
Speaker 7: somebody this morning who said, now they think it's sixty
Speaker 7: forty he loses his job. So I don't know that
Speaker 7: they know what they want to do now. The big
Speaker 7: thing is on April first, the buyout drops down quite
Speaker 7: a bit. It drops down to, like, I think, under
Speaker 7: five million dollars. Can you afford to wait that long?
Speaker 2: And this this it was like you see who's available
Speaker 2: on April first, right, If someone's available, then you make
Speaker 2: the move. If not, you're kind of married to it
Speaker 2: for the foreseeable future. And so bearkafans frustrated. They should
Speaker 2: be frustrated. They shouldn't keep their mouths shut. They should
Speaker 2: demand better from this university. It has been really embarrassing
Speaker 2: to watch them melt down again. All right, So from
Speaker 2: Clifton to lack of victory Parkway, Yukon smokes Xavier ninety
Speaker 2: three sixty eight. I mean, and it's they've got their number.
Speaker 2: Yukon's a great team. Xavier isn't at this point. I mean,
Speaker 2: you think most people agree they're trending in the right direction,
Speaker 2: but just absolutely smoked it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Xavior was a feel good story for a little
Speaker 7: bit this season, and then they weren't as they got
Speaker 7: deeper into Big East play and it gets harder and
Speaker 7: harder in that conference to play, and then obviously going
Speaker 7: up against Yukon and the Big East Tournament is no
Speaker 7: easy task. Richard Patino said it earlier. This year, needs
Speaker 7: more money, needs more resources. They're building this thing. I
Speaker 7: think Xavier fans understand that. I think so too, and
Speaker 7: they're patient about it. You got the right guy in there.
Speaker 7: It looks like most NAVI fans I think like what
Speaker 7: he's doing, and program's head of the right direction. Where
Speaker 7: you see just seems like it's stagged. And that's the battle.
Speaker 7: It's not necessarily the teams you play in your conference.
Speaker 7: It's bragging rights here in Cincinnati. Huge, Yeah, without a doubt.
Speaker 7: That's the big That's the big one right there. Let's
Speaker 7: pivot to Red's real quick.
Speaker 2: Got a lot of sports news this morning with Audi
Speaker 2: here on seven hundred WLW. Season open for Boston is
Speaker 2: March twenty six. We're inside that two week window already.
Speaker 2: It's hard to believe Terry Francona set his starting rotation
Speaker 2: now with Hunter greenout, it's Abbott, Lodolo and Singa in
Speaker 2: that order against the Boston Red Sox a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks out, back to back lefties, and the Reds like
Speaker 2: to do this because you know, the matchup game that
Speaker 2: so many managers like to play across Major League baseball,
Speaker 2: if you can throw two lefties at a team that
Speaker 2: can really mess with their offense, and I think that's
Speaker 2: what the Reds are trying to do in a lot
Speaker 2: of these series, to have Abbott and Lodolo go back
Speaker 2: to back.
Speaker 7: Now there's a split view on that mindset. Some would rather,
Speaker 7: you know, separate them and go every other day when
Speaker 7: they're pitching, but the Reds like this idea of them
Speaker 7: going back to back, and it's probably going to be
Speaker 7: the same way for Boston. Boston's going to start Garrett
Speaker 7: Crochet on opening Day, followed by their big offseason acquisition
Speaker 7: Ranger Suarez, who's also left hand, so we might see
Speaker 7: a lot of South Paul's the first couple of games.
Speaker 2: Last week, we talked about the Hunter Green thing, which
Speaker 2: is just a head scratching, awful setback because that's your ace.
Speaker 2: We had another picture go down this week.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Caleb Ferguson, who was one of their off season acquisitions,
Speaker 7: another left hander that was pitching pretty well and is
Speaker 7: expected to be a big part of the bullpen. He
Speaker 7: goes down with an oblique injury, so he's gonna miss
Speaker 7: the start of the season. He'll start the season on Io.
Speaker 7: We don't know how severe it is. I don't know.
Speaker 7: It's like, yeah, points, you've got to be really careful
Speaker 7: with it. So I'm sure they will, especially since it's
Speaker 7: early and hopefully you know, I've two weeks to get ready.
Speaker 7: Can you'll get back with I'll missing a ton of time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully no blisters be the other big thing that
Speaker 2: seems to bring pictures down, specially for the Reds.
Speaker 7: Lodolo especially, he has had a history of blister problems
Speaker 7: and I know that they've worked on that and they've
Speaker 7: tried different stuff with it, but it gets pretty thin.
Speaker 2: If Lodolo goes down. I got a problem there, So
Speaker 2: let's let's keep up. He should be rubbing his fingers
Speaker 2: of sandpaper every night before bed like that tough of those.
Speaker 2: Sure do it.
Speaker 7: I'm not kidding. Jeff Brantley said something along those. It's like,
Speaker 7: you should do.
Speaker 2: What it was, whatever it takes, get that skin, get
Speaker 2: blisters going down. We use lotion, right, stay away from
Speaker 2: the half the people here. Don't wash your hands. Yeah,
Speaker 2: no pop olive, none of that whatsoever. All right, So
Speaker 2: I felt like kind of we're bearing the lead a
Speaker 2: little bit, but I mean, college basketball is big. Wanted
Speaker 2: to get the little Red shout out in there as
Speaker 2: well with the preseason spring training winding down before they
Speaker 2: break camp and come back here. But of course the
Speaker 2: big story in Cincinnati now was the hope of not
Speaker 2: just the Reds, but now the Bengals. So in previous
Speaker 2: off seasons, we've he's seen our I don't want to
Speaker 2: say general manager, but the guy called Duke Tobin say
Speaker 2: we're gonna make some big We're gonna do this and
Speaker 2: it's going to be the greatest, and then there's nothing.
Speaker 2: I feel like, finally this time around, we're doing something.
Speaker 2: They've done something, something, something better than they have in
Speaker 2: the past. Let's just let's go down before we get
Speaker 2: the overview. Here, they get Jonathan Jonathan Allen, thirty one
Speaker 2: year old defensive tackle. Took a couple of days in
Speaker 2: negotiation there the third defensive edition this week because, as
Speaker 2: we know, the worst run defense in the National Football League.
Speaker 2: What does he bring to the table alongside BJ Hill, TJ. Slaton,
Speaker 2: Chris Jenkins. You got, yeah, what veteran leadership.
Speaker 7: This is this guy who's been a Walter Payton May
Speaker 7: of the Year nominee, And that was something that you know,
Speaker 7: Duke Tobin and Al Golden both talked about this offseason
Speaker 7: is we need somebody who can be a leader in
Speaker 7: that room, a veteran that can step up and be that.
Speaker 7: Now he's lost some juice over the last couple of years.
Speaker 7: His numbers have kind of steadily declined. There are some
Speaker 7: that believe him in Minnesota last year was not necessarily
Speaker 7: the right fit for what Brian Flores, the decordinator there,
Speaker 7: wanted to do. But he still generates solid pass rush
Speaker 7: numbers from the interior and that's something that the Bengals need.
Speaker 7: He needs to get better against the run. The Bengals
Speaker 7: as a whole need to get better against the run.
Speaker 7: The way I look at it is you're paying a
Speaker 7: thirty one year old, very similar type of player to
Speaker 7: bj Hill, and you're hoping that the leadership that he
Speaker 7: provides is going to have an impact on that entire defense.
Speaker 7: And also you look at him and say, okay, well
Speaker 7: he's better than Chris Jenkins, he's better than McKinley Jackson,
Speaker 7: He's better than the guys that are currently slated to stars.
Speaker 7: So in that sense, it's a net posit. It's a
Speaker 7: decent upgrade he get an older guy. But again, year
Speaker 7: thirty one is kind of Yeah, just to be clear,
Speaker 7: you're not signing Aaron Donald, you're not signing Geno Atkins,
Speaker 7: you're not signing Tim Krumrai, right, but you're signing a
Speaker 7: guy who's better than who you currently have. Yeah, you're
Speaker 7: not gonna get Max Crosby, but you're gonna, right, you're
Speaker 7: gonna get Boyd Maviy.
Speaker 2: So we added him as well. Yeah, boy a Mafe.
Speaker 7: This is a dude that I think a lot of
Speaker 7: people feel is similar to the mold of Trey Henderson
Speaker 7: in that twenty one offseason in the sense of he
Speaker 7: didn't necessarily get as much playing time because of the
Speaker 7: rotations and the scheme that Seattle had, but when he
Speaker 7: was on the field, he was generating some pressures. He
Speaker 7: was winning the pass rush win rate metric that ESPN
Speaker 7: uses really likes him. Those underlying metrics suggest this is
Speaker 7: a guy who's ready to break out. He's athletic, he's
Speaker 7: got heavy hands. He'd a much much, much much better
Speaker 7: run defender, yeah than Trey Hendrickson was. So for that reason, yeah,
Speaker 7: that's that's a good addition, and you hopefully can get
Speaker 7: the production that you got from Trey Hendrickson kind of
Speaker 7: in that same.
Speaker 2: Moment it was injured too, so you know, I was downside.
Speaker 2: We'll see what he does. The high bar, but it's yeah,
Speaker 2: definitely a high bar. But I like the run defense
Speaker 2: and that's huge. Yeah, and that is a big part
Speaker 2: of it. Like it's one thing to have pass rushers,
Speaker 2: but pass rushers don't matter if it's third and two correct,
Speaker 2: and you've got to be able to get into third
Speaker 2: and longer in those situations. Yeah, but you had those guys.
Speaker 2: That means Shamar Stewart, Miles Murphy take that next big step,
Speaker 2: you hope. So, yeah, you'd hope that those can do that.
Speaker 2: You're good.
Speaker 7: You know, they've talked a lot about force multipliers. You're
Speaker 7: hoping that these guys become force multipliers and make everybody better.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: I really like the Brian Cook situation and signing him,
Speaker 2: because here's a guy who you know loves Cincinnati's watching
Speaker 2: the tournament, watching you see in the tournament, watch them
Speaker 2: lose right before he has press conference, Uh, mount healthy guy.
Speaker 2: You see, guy has rings with k C. He brings
Speaker 2: that the Cincinnati I love that. Yeah, And on a
Speaker 2: deal that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 7: The Engles finally look around and say, Okay, we got
Speaker 7: to fix this safety position that we screwed up with
Speaker 7: Jesse Bates. And this dude is the complete antithesis of
Speaker 7: what Genostone has been.
Speaker 2: The last couple He can actually tackle.
Speaker 7: Yeah, like literally, Genostone last season missed twenty three tackles.
Speaker 7: All right, twenty three tackles last season. Brian Cook has
Speaker 7: twenty two missed tackles across his whole NFL career.
Speaker 2: Four years in the.
Speaker 7: NFL, And I think a lot of people feel like
Speaker 7: Brian Cook has some untapped potential in the ability to
Speaker 7: kind of come down into the into the box and
Speaker 7: be a bit of a blitzer as well. So Al
Speaker 7: Golden can be unique with those looks. He did that
Speaker 7: more at UC, he didn't do it very much in
Speaker 7: Kansas City. So I think we'll see a little bit
Speaker 7: more of that from Brian Cook from Cincinnati and to
Speaker 7: a Geno Stone. But here's the thing, so you got
Speaker 7: to look at it. So Brian Cook, Boye Mafe, Jonathan Allen,
Speaker 7: are those three guys do the acquisitions of those three
Speaker 7: outweigh Trey Hendrickson Joe's of Osai and Genostone. Yeah, Genostone, Yeah,
Speaker 7: I mean definitely. I don't know how much of a
Speaker 7: difference the other two really make. So when you just
Speaker 7: if you look at it as simple as an addition
Speaker 7: and subtraction, makes you wonder just how much better they're
Speaker 7: going to be.
Speaker 2: I guess, I mean, I look at it going, all right,
Speaker 2: how many more years of production are you going to
Speaker 2: get out of Hendricks? And sure, all right, that's a
Speaker 2: legitimate question at his age, but you know, again, Allan's
Speaker 2: thirty one, so we'll see. I guess it's yeah. I
Speaker 2: know you think it's like an even swap at this point.
Speaker 2: I think I don't slight upgrade. I don't think it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, game change.
Speaker 7: I think it's a slight upgrade just because of the
Speaker 7: massive disparity between Brian Cook and genos Yes, yea, And
Speaker 7: that in and of itself might be enough to make
Speaker 7: them feel better. And you still have the draft, and
Speaker 7: you still might get guys on the defensive line. You
Speaker 7: might get Ruben Bainn, you might get Caleb Downs, you
Speaker 7: might get some of those guys that can help make
Speaker 7: you feel better. You might even get one of those corners, yeah,
Speaker 7: out there, So it's it's an incomplete grade. I think
Speaker 7: a lot of Bengals fan feel like they've missed the
Speaker 7: boat on the linebacker position because the linebacker played last
Speaker 7: year was atrocious. I mean those two rookies Barrett Carter,
Speaker 7: Demetrius Night Junior. You had guys like Cayden Ellis and
Speaker 7: Leo Chanell signed contracts that were well within the Bengals budget,
Speaker 7: and the Bengals weren't even in on them. Are they
Speaker 7: don Yeah, I would assume that they are. I would
Speaker 7: assume that they are nothing significant. I think the Joe
Speaker 7: Flacco thing might play itself out closer to training camp.
Speaker 7: I don't know that Flacco is going to get in
Speaker 7: a rush to sign with anybody, but yeah, I think
Speaker 7: they're mostly done.
Speaker 2: Okay. And the other thing is the Orlando Brown extension,
Speaker 2: which I think it's kind of funny. Now we're in
Speaker 2: the AI world and I'm thinking, well, a lot of
Speaker 2: agents are like, damn, he did his own deal to
Speaker 2: your Eastay, but the chat GPT the contract, like, I
Speaker 2: don't need.
Speaker 7: The funniest line from Orlando Brown yesterday was Yeah, it's
Speaker 7: pretty much as simple as you just go up to
Speaker 7: Mike Brown and say, can we get this done? For
Speaker 7: all the all the things that people say about Mike Brown,
Speaker 7: you don't think it's that simple. But according to Orlando
Speaker 7: Brown Junior, it was.
Speaker 2: I guess now you know it was. It was a
Speaker 2: great He improved as the season went on, and that's yeah.
Speaker 2: That towards the end he was a little bit better.
Speaker 2: But I think he would say and a lot of
Speaker 2: people would say it wasn't his best season.
Speaker 7: It wasn't. And he's getting older as well. I know
Speaker 7: that the Bengals feel like he has to get in
Speaker 7: better shape, and I think that's something he needs to
Speaker 7: work on, especially as you get older, you got to
Speaker 7: be really careful with your body. And so I hope
Speaker 7: that that's something that he takes to heart and is
Speaker 7: able to improve. Because you got to go up against
Speaker 7: Dray Hendrickson. Yeah, twic at least twice. Right, That's the
Speaker 7: thing that's gonna be a fun matchup to watch. So yeah,
Speaker 7: if you remember the first day they practiced against each other,
Speaker 7: they got in a big fight, which you know, Trey
Speaker 7: had these big scratches around his back. He said they
Speaker 7: fought when they when he was in Kansas City playing
Speaker 7: for the Chiefs as well, So I cannot wait for that.
Speaker 2: All right. So you're thinking they're done because you hear
Speaker 2: about Leo Chanal and and Ellison guys like that. They've
Speaker 2: got money to play with, don't they.
Speaker 7: They have a little bit the issue. I Well, those
Speaker 7: guys have signed already with other chams. Ok And the
Speaker 7: rest of the linebackers available are not much of an
Speaker 7: upgrade between you and I playing that position. So a
Speaker 7: lot of Bengals fans understandably feel like they missed the
Speaker 7: boat on that linebacker spot.
Speaker 2: Okay, and you know there's a win now pressure that
Speaker 2: they're facing as well. I think inside the building they
Speaker 2: probably think they've done enough, but as far as fan
Speaker 2: reaction goes, it seems like, yeah, we did something, but
Speaker 2: it's not.
Speaker 7: They have a skewed reaction to what they believe is
Speaker 7: all in, and that's always been the issue with them.
Speaker 7: Duke Tobin, in a really pompous and arrogant way of
Speaker 7: saying it at the combine, was like, we're never not
Speaker 7: all in. We always try to win, and that's just
Speaker 7: not true. All Right, what is the one position of
Speaker 7: the draft. Then they absolutely have to hit on the park.
Speaker 7: I mean, if there's one, I would still there's a
Speaker 7: lot to hit multiple let's say, yeah, right, I would
Speaker 7: still want to build the defensive line. Okay, if you're
Speaker 7: good up front, that makes everybody else better, So I
Speaker 7: would start with that. I would hope that a good
Speaker 7: defensive line would make those linebackers better and make things
Speaker 7: easier on them. So if you're able to get one
Speaker 7: of those defensive tackles, whether it's Peter Woods from Clemson,
Speaker 7: Cad McDonald from Ohio State, Caleb Banks from Florida has
Speaker 7: now he's going to drop because he has a broken foot,
Speaker 7: ye could be a guy for the Bengals in round
Speaker 7: number two. That or Ruben Bain Junior, the edge rusher
Speaker 7: out of Miami. I think they are in love with
Speaker 7: the idea of him rushing from the inside, especially because
Speaker 7: now everybody thinks he has t Rex arms. So yeah,
Speaker 7: I just I think you continue to build from the
Speaker 7: defensive line on back.
Speaker 2: You've got the Willie arms when the check comes, That's right.
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Speaker 1: Want to.
Speaker 2: If you're a pet owner an animal lover, I have
Speaker 2: a very very important question to ask you, and that
Speaker 2: is what do you feed your dog? What do you
Speaker 2: feed your cat? We are inundated with marketing in America,
Speaker 2: always have been, always will I'm a big proponent of
Speaker 2: marketing and advertising. And what was fed to us like
Speaker 2: we feed our pets, is a steady diet of You
Speaker 2: are a horrible abusive pet parent, not pet owner pet
Speaker 2: parent unless you have someone like Guy Fiertti in a
Speaker 2: kitchen chopping up organic, fair trade, free range, ethically sourced,
Speaker 2: pesticide free, GMO, missing preservative, absent, carbon neutral, gluten free
Speaker 2: dog or cat food. If you don't feed your dog
Speaker 2: or cat that you are an abuser. Doug Hoffman is
Speaker 2: a doctor of veterinary medicine and a cute pet here
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati. Yes or no, Doug Hoffman tell the truth,
Speaker 2: So help you God? Is it necessary? No? So, Scott's
Speaker 2: good to be here.
Speaker 1: How are you, buddy?
Speaker 2: Goodness see you questions been a minute since my buddy
Speaker 2: Doug's been on the show, and and now you know
Speaker 2: why because he's going, what's this guy going with this
Speaker 2: right now? What's what's happening? No, I you know it's
Speaker 2: it's like, you want to do best by your pets,
Speaker 2: and do you really need do they really need organic peas?
Speaker 8: You do want to do the best your pets, There's
Speaker 8: no question about it. But the key, the biggest key
Speaker 8: with dog food and pet food. I don't care where
Speaker 8: it's cat food, dog food, whatever his consistency. The mistake
Speaker 8: people make a lot of times is feeding a variety
Speaker 8: of things. They don't do as well as we do
Speaker 8: with a variety of foods. The other thing, too, is
Speaker 8: all the vegetables, all of that type of thing. I mean,
Speaker 8: dogs are carnivores, cats are carnivores. They do better with
Speaker 8: meat based products.
Speaker 2: They do.
Speaker 8: They put a lot of the other things in corn meal,
Speaker 8: different things like that for for filler, but a lot
Speaker 8: of your dry foods, Like I have a great dame.
Speaker 8: I feed him one food all the time, and you're
Speaker 8: a doctor. Occasionally, reasonally, I'll give him the crust off
Speaker 8: of a pizza, pizza, I sauce, no nothing.
Speaker 2: He loves it.
Speaker 8: It's the greatest thing in the world's nuts, a little
Speaker 8: piece of cheese every once in a while. He does great,
Speaker 8: and he's done great. And they don't have diarrhea, they
Speaker 8: don't have vomiting, they don't have all these problems, and
Speaker 8: they're not overweight. Yeah, I mean, you know, that's that's
Speaker 8: the key with this. If you do a lot of this,
Speaker 8: I mean, they love it, but that's more us making
Speaker 8: ourselves feel better about what we're feeding them than what
Speaker 8: they really need. A lot of the foods out there
Speaker 8: are very nutritionally well bound. They're made to feed them
Speaker 8: the same thing all of the time. It may be
Speaker 8: boring because we.
Speaker 2: Think, oh, I wanna have Chinese to that I don't
Speaker 2: have Korean, and I'm gonna have a dog all the time.
Speaker 2: No, no of that. The other thing about it, like you
Speaker 2: feed your dog all this stuff and then they'll go
Speaker 2: need a dead squirrel.
Speaker 8: So yeah, right, I mean, there's not a pickiness with
Speaker 8: a let's just call it what it is, not exactly
Speaker 8: other than like carrots or broccoli or I can't get
Speaker 8: my dog eat any of that, but I don't feed
Speaker 8: it that, So it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. It's the lead. If there's some butter
Speaker 2: on it. They probably just crush a carrot, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: I would.
Speaker 8: They'll eat anything. I mean I had when I was
Speaker 8: an emergency. I had a dog come in on emergency
Speaker 8: because this was a Thanksgiving Okay, somebody had done one
Speaker 8: of the you know, roasted the turkey outside, had all
Speaker 8: the juices and poured it out on their decorative stone
Speaker 8: to get rid of it. And the dog ate all
Speaker 8: of the stones, ate the rocks, the rocks. The whole
Speaker 8: thing came in, took an X ray. His entire stomach
Speaker 8: was filled with stones. Didn't lick them, ate the rocks.
Speaker 2: So they're not picky. They'll eat whatever. They're also not
Speaker 2: particularly bright. They get sick on chocolate and grapes and
Speaker 2: they'd crush some chocolate grapes. Like chocolate grapes. I think
Speaker 2: we're great.
Speaker 8: Well that's you know, that's where the variety of stuff
Speaker 8: comes in, is it can become dangerous. I mean, you know,
Speaker 8: the pets are sensitive to things that were not sensitive to.
Speaker 8: So you know you're safe with with the stak dog food.
Speaker 8: And it's a good quality food. Yeah, it's a good
Speaker 8: quality food. Stay away from the generics.
Speaker 2: What about cats because they see. The ones I've seen
Speaker 2: is like they tend to like their their dinner on
Speaker 2: crystal with like a it's got like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: some sort of reduction, vial reduction on it or something
Speaker 2: like that. Yeah, and they just sit there and they
Speaker 2: eat it out of crystal like a water Is it
Speaker 2: the Waterford crystal that the cats eat out of? Is that?
Speaker 2: What does it for them?
Speaker 8: That's that's I think says a lot more about the
Speaker 8: owner than it does about correct.
Speaker 2: Yes, because you don't care about your pet unless you're
Speaker 2: spending stupid amounts of money trying to feed them. I'm
Speaker 2: glad you, Doug Hoffman. I'm glad you cleared that up
Speaker 2: for us. I've always wanted to ask that question of
Speaker 2: a veterinarian because you know, I'm about I'm about the
Speaker 2: value I you know, we love our dog, we take care,
Speaker 2: but I'm like, do I really need Like what's that?
Speaker 2: I understand we got to start this. We're in the
Speaker 2: wrong business. You know what I want to do. We
Speaker 2: had to do here. You go, let's convince people and
Speaker 2: we can teach classes and sell products, breastfeed their animals.
Speaker 2: What about that? Let's well, that would be right it's like, well,
Speaker 2: you know, the next step. I would not either, but
Speaker 2: I don't know someone would go, oh, yeah, you should.
Speaker 2: You should totally breastfeed your cat. What could go wrong there?
Speaker 2: Doug Hoffman is with acute pet here in Cincinnati, and
Speaker 2: uh we we haven't talked in a while, I know.
Speaker 2: And people obviously love their animals, sometimes more than family members.
Speaker 2: I get it because the the affection is there for them.
Speaker 2: Too often it's about dogs and cats. Longevity is a
Speaker 2: big issue here too. You know. You mentioned the food thing.
Speaker 2: I also think about how exercise is very very important
Speaker 2: for you and dog or the cat is a cat.
Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, I mean I think that's you know, one
Speaker 8: of the best ways to get in shape is get
Speaker 8: get a dog, you know, to make long walk you know,
Speaker 8: and and I think that's that's key to that type
Speaker 8: of thing.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 8: We're big, big fans of uh, you know, exercising our
Speaker 8: pets and and and obviously responsibly, you know, the the
Speaker 8: big mistake people make, especially as we're heading out of
Speaker 8: winter in the summer, it's going to start getting hot. Yes,
Speaker 8: be careful with your dogs and taking them for long
Speaker 8: runs because you've decided now you're gonna get in shape,
Speaker 8: is in shape, especially if it's hot, especially if they're
Speaker 8: sort of the smash mouth breaky cephalic dogs.
Speaker 2: Gotcha. Heat stroke is a big, big Do you see
Speaker 2: that in the spring?
Speaker 8: A lot of times you'll see it oftentimes in the
Speaker 8: spring because when you hit that seventy all of a sudden,
Speaker 8: they're not used to it. Okay, all of a sudden,
Speaker 8: somebody's taken their dog for a four mile run and
Speaker 8: the dog hasn't walked half a mile and three months
Speaker 8: thought of that, and they can't handle it. And especially
Speaker 8: the dogs that have some of the breathing issues, we
Speaker 8: see that and the heat stroke comes on very quickly.
Speaker 8: It's very serious, one of the most sort of devastating
Speaker 8: emergencies we see because it's sometimes those dogs are hard
Speaker 8: good enough.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, think about it. So maybe you're training
Speaker 2: to run, maybe you're going to tank of the pig.
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, well this cold winter, you've been running
Speaker 2: in a treadmill. Your dog has it right, you can't
Speaker 2: just run out and they're like they've been sedentary this long.
Speaker 2: You got to build them up. Really, it's really watching them.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 8: The thing that we always one of The first signs
Speaker 8: you'll see with the dog is it'll start to he'll
Speaker 8: sit as you're walking them.
Speaker 2: And everybody's like, come on, come on, get in shape,
Speaker 2: let's go. Yeah.
Speaker 8: Dogs don't sit unless right, So you know, these are
Speaker 8: little things to watch for. I've been on walks at
Speaker 8: the parks and things and been able to predict as
Speaker 8: I've walked around, which dog I'm going to end up
Speaker 8: seeing is going to be a heat stroke? Okay, And
Speaker 8: it actually happened to me once at Sharon Woods and
Speaker 8: really watched the dog go by, and I said, that
Speaker 8: dog's going to stroke. And when another hundred yards and
Speaker 8: the dogs on the side, actually the guys like, I
Speaker 8: don't know what to do.
Speaker 2: His temperature was one hundred and nine.
Speaker 8: Oh lord, what so what what it was a it's
Speaker 8: a seventy five pound dog. We had to pick it
Speaker 8: up and the Harriot he had to go run and
Speaker 8: get his card, get it to the.
Speaker 2: Dog, and he was, okay, he is not dude. You
Speaker 2: just can't drop a dead dog.
Speaker 7: Star.
Speaker 2: There's kids less and people are weeping, right and it's
Speaker 2: just lie just fly yeah dogs by. He's the nice farmer.
Speaker 2: What the kind of show is this? No, that's terrible though.
Speaker 2: It's it's just horrible though. Poor guy. Well it was
Speaker 2: too long.
Speaker 8: Yeah, So it's one of those it's not a great story,
Speaker 8: but it's a story that's real. Like when you're talking
Speaker 8: about exercising, especially this time of the year, it's great
Speaker 8: to do that. Do it in moderation, make sure you're
Speaker 8: watching it.
Speaker 2: Okay, important too, because the results can be good because dog,
Speaker 2: he's not gonna Dog is going to go until it
Speaker 2: can't go anymore.
Speaker 8: It's loving life, yeah, and there's some that it can
Speaker 8: go forever and there's some that cannot.
Speaker 2: Okay. The other thing too, is we see and I've
Speaker 2: talked to Sanjay Shapercrimani or your physician. He comes on
Speaker 2: Thursday mornings. We talk about health and fitness and all
Speaker 2: these things. But I think that it's true with pats
Speaker 2: as well. We talked about nutrition and the like. But
Speaker 2: people are now using doctor Google or shat GPT to
Speaker 2: answer the medical questions and there's some pitfalls with that.
Speaker 2: I'd imagine that's probably true with pet care as well.
Speaker 2: It's I think it's even more with pet care.
Speaker 8: It's becoming very popular with you know, especially with the
Speaker 8: advent of AI and things like that. The problem is
Speaker 8: they can't talk to you. It's one thing if you
Speaker 8: know what your symptoms are and you're telling somebody or
Speaker 8: looking it up and going, this is how I feel,
Speaker 8: this is what's going on, this is what's happened to me.
Speaker 8: It's another thing to interpret that from a pet, and
Speaker 8: you don't really know what you're looking at, so you
Speaker 8: don't necessarily know what's an emergency. For instance, my cat
Speaker 8: is peeing all the time. I think he has a
Speaker 8: urinary track infection. What should I do for a urinary
Speaker 8: track infection? When in fact he's peeing all the time
Speaker 8: because he can't pee, yes, and he's blocked. My great
Speaker 8: Dane is vomiting. What should I do? Okay withhold food? Wait, okay,
Speaker 8: he's not actually vomiting. He's gagging because he can't vom
Speaker 8: because he's bloated. And it should have been a surgical emergence.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 8: So there's different things out there that that people just
Speaker 8: don't know because it's just.
Speaker 2: Cats and other pats too for that matter, and so
Speaker 2: keeping them on dogs. But yeah, cats, yeah, yeah, yeactly right, right, okay.
Speaker 8: Because you know that's what happens we see a lot
Speaker 8: of there's a lot of things that can be really
Speaker 8: serious that somebody can say, well, you know, and that's why, like,
Speaker 8: you know, all of our hospitals were very cautious with
Speaker 8: our front desk people to say, listen, you know, try
Speaker 8: not to give advice over the phone because you don't know.
Speaker 8: You can't see it and they can't see it. And
Speaker 8: it's sort of like listen to you know, it's your bait.
Speaker 8: It's like a pediatrician, Yeah, you know, you can't talk
Speaker 8: to you. So you have to really do a good
Speaker 8: physical exam and see what's going on, not just hear
Speaker 8: about it from somebody else.
Speaker 2: Doug Hoffman, doctor veter veterinary medicine, on the show here
Speaker 2: on seven hundred w Alws started talking about saving moneter
Speaker 2: whether or not need to feed your dog these bougie foods,
Speaker 2: and the answer of courses or cats for that matter,
Speaker 2: is fine, don't change it up, don't go from brand
Speaker 2: to brand. And what about like if I wanted beef
Speaker 2: versus chicken, the same thing. If I if it's beef
Speaker 2: and sweet potato, keep it beef.
Speaker 8: And consistently, it's not that one is better than the other.
Speaker 8: It's just don't switch it up all the time.
Speaker 2: That's what causes and also table scraps too. Although my
Speaker 2: dog will cry and cry and cry if he can't
Speaker 2: lick the bull's he's the best. So we have the
Speaker 2: pot scrubber mode on your dish or so, so don't
Speaker 2: do that. Just get an animal and put the bowl
Speaker 2: down and let them clean. Well.
Speaker 8: And it's one thing if you give your pet food scraps,
Speaker 8: like you give it a little piece of baked chicken.
Speaker 2: Don't give it steak, don't give it pork. These are
Speaker 2: things pancitis. Oh well, okay, good, Well, you'll have to
Speaker 2: be sensitive to it, not as much as you may
Speaker 2: have to break the news to band it because he's
Speaker 2: not going to take this well that he should not
Speaker 2: be licking the bulls clean. But the fall of that habit,
Speaker 2: I guess, I don't know. So he seems to be
Speaker 2: doing okay, he's fine, he's fine. You know. One of
Speaker 2: the other elements here too, a pet care and this
Speaker 2: is your business and cute pet is it seems like
Speaker 2: it's getting it's getting everything to get more expensive with
Speaker 2: inflation and a light too. But it seems like in
Speaker 2: pet care too, the prices are going up.
Speaker 8: They are, and you know, I think that's one of
Speaker 8: the biggest issues in veterinary medicine right now, is is
Speaker 8: care becoming unaffordable? Yeah, you know, because insurance still only
Speaker 8: accounts for maybe three to four percent of the pet population.
Speaker 8: So it would be great if everybody could do that.
Speaker 8: But even the pet insurance companies are seeing, okay, well
Speaker 8: this is expensive, yes, right, their rates you know, what
Speaker 8: used to be unable have become you know, difficult to
Speaker 8: do every month for some people, right, And and that's
Speaker 8: a real problem for you know, taking care of these
Speaker 8: pets the way people want to take care of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 8: And you know, I came from a business that did
Speaker 8: you know, could do everything. I mean, I you know,
Speaker 8: my old hospital, I was one of the first ones
Speaker 8: to bring stereotactic radiosurgery to veterinarian medicine and cancer treatment.
Speaker 8: That's great for certain amount of people that can do that.
Speaker 8: It's great that we can. The question is, you know,
Speaker 8: it doesn't mean that we always should because sometimes people
Speaker 8: just can't afford this. So what are other treatments that
Speaker 8: we can do to at least help as much as
Speaker 8: we can or figure out ways to bring costs down
Speaker 8: in some way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's a challenge of human medicine as well
Speaker 2: as the veterinary medicine as well too. Cost everything seems
Speaker 2: to be. But I would say, you know, if you
Speaker 2: introduce insurance into it, like people, isn't that going to
Speaker 2: inflate the cost even more if someone else is paying
Speaker 2: for it?
Speaker 8: Well, I you know, at medinary medicine. I think one
Speaker 8: of the reasons that you see that on the human side.
Speaker 8: You know, my wife is an internist on the human side,
Speaker 8: and you saw this with insurance that some of the
Speaker 8: issues with that is that costs are so high, not
Speaker 8: because of insurance, but because of the threat of being sued,
Speaker 8: right because of you know, without tort reform. It's hard
Speaker 8: and I don't want to get into good Yeah, it's
Speaker 8: all different, but we don't see that on the veterinary side.
Speaker 8: So you know, we're just trying to get people to
Speaker 8: take care of their pets as best they can. Thank goodness,
Speaker 8: many many people said just what you said. They treat
Speaker 8: them as family, but it's still expensive no matter how
Speaker 8: much you love your pet. Sometimes you know these thousand,
Speaker 8: two thousand and five thousand dollars bills.
Speaker 2: You can't afford that, and sadly the alternative is like,
Speaker 2: well we've got to put our pet down and that's
Speaker 2: the most tragic thing of all because of money. So,
Speaker 2: I know, you guys are acute to pet, you're keeping
Speaker 2: the costs and.
Speaker 8: That's our goal, I mean is emergent care. You know,
Speaker 8: we're sort of that in between you know, general practice
Speaker 8: that you know is doing you know, the vaccines and
Speaker 8: dentals and boring and all of the things that are
Speaker 8: sort of primary care and the twenty four hours specialty emergency.
Speaker 8: We sort of fit in between that the emergencies that
Speaker 8: are emergencies to the client. A lot of times, you know,
Speaker 8: the ear infection, the laceration, of sudden limping.
Speaker 2: We're there.
Speaker 8: And the goal that we had with this company was
Speaker 8: be there to treat them when they need it, because
Speaker 8: it's sometimes it's hard to get into your family vet.
Speaker 8: Sometimes there's really long waits at the special hospitals. But
Speaker 8: also make it so that people can afford this and
Speaker 8: get in and be treated and not have this be
Speaker 8: something that sort of deters them from the other treatments their.
Speaker 2: Pet may need.
Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly exact because We don't want somebody to have
Speaker 8: an emergency and now they can't get heartworm preventitive for
Speaker 8: their pet, or they can't get vaccines or something like that.
Speaker 4: Good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So to keep it, you guys are
Speaker 2: on top of the road. Westchester, we are.
Speaker 8: We we have locations in Westchester. We have location in
Speaker 8: Beaver Creek up in Dayton. We have one in Bellevue, Kentucky.
Speaker 8: Uh and uh we have other ones in uh in
Speaker 8: uh Cleveland, and a couple actually in South Carolina.
Speaker 2: It's pretty grown growing practice. Congratulations, Thank you. Alo you
Speaker 2: guys would be like Starbucks pretty soon.
Speaker 8: Well you can have that would be uh, that would
Speaker 8: at Yeah, but no, it was it's you know, one
Speaker 8: of the goals was is we wanted to do more
Speaker 8: than just one in one location. We wanted to try
Speaker 8: and be, you know, have a little bit of mass
Speaker 8: to this and that you know, we can you know,
Speaker 8: help not just the clients and the pets, but also
Speaker 8: help the veterinarians that work for us and the staff
Speaker 8: have you know, hopefully have veterinarian veterinary medicine be fun again. Yeah,
Speaker 8: I think there's a little bit of that's that's getting
Speaker 8: lost in the mix.
Speaker 2: I hear that in the in the human and it's
Speaker 2: it's all about numbers, and well it's hard. It's hard.
Speaker 8: It's just doing what we were talking about, trying to
Speaker 8: treat a pet and then giving them an estimate and
Speaker 8: they go, I can't do it. And now you know,
Speaker 8: there's just there's there's where medicine is just not fun. Yeah,
Speaker 8: because you certainly don't want to be in a situation
Speaker 8: where you have to choose your pet's life over your
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Speaker 5: This is the local Hoop with Allie Martin on seven
Speaker 5: hundred w l W.
Speaker 9: Good morning, Goollo, Hello Florida buddy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sort of, it was weird. So I was in
Speaker 2: Florida for a long weekend last weekend, and we found
Speaker 2: out yesterday during this segment that we were both leaving
Speaker 2: for the same airport RSW, which is Fort Myers, except
Speaker 2: you were leaving later on a frontier flight. Yeah Delta, Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, little did we know we could have left at
Speaker 9: the same exact time. And I was there for pickleball
Speaker 9: and you were there to soak up the sun to
Speaker 9: place and gold I did.
Speaker 4: How did it go?
Speaker 2: Successful?
Speaker 5: You?
Speaker 9: It was great?
Speaker 2: First two days, suck can hit the ball. By third
Speaker 2: day won my I won six of my twelve dollars back.
Speaker 9: Throw some money out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, big mistakes.
Speaker 9: I mean the weather was nice and we had hit
Speaker 9: a little parkcast was nice.
Speaker 2: Hey, it was great little Sona and Camplain most people
Speaker 2: and get a chance to get away. It was like
Speaker 2: just a nice little long weekend.
Speaker 9: I just I'm still giggling over that where we didn't
Speaker 9: even know.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, right before we left. And it's good
Speaker 2: I got out of buy any drinks anyway.
Speaker 9: I really wanted to capitalize on that.
Speaker 2: Club at at Allie Martin eate in the Good Drama.
Speaker 2: She is here to chop up what's happening this weekend.
Speaker 2: I don't have to say this. This is the one
Speaker 2: coming up. It's the one day of the year we
Speaker 2: pretend to like Irish dancing and boiled food and for
Speaker 2: one day. Yeah, for one day we I'm leading it.
Speaker 2: Irish dancing is great for one day.
Speaker 9: Let's go you know, I'm I am here for any
Speaker 9: and all of the Irish dancers.
Speaker 2: That's not easy, I can say it was.
Speaker 9: We're celebrating Saint Patty's Day.
Speaker 2: Baby, let's go eleftchi. Yeah, it's also a Tuesday, though,
Speaker 2: but we always do it the weekend before well.
Speaker 9: And yeah, luckily at the Tuesday, so we'll throw it
Speaker 9: back into the weekend before when it becomes a Wednesday
Speaker 9: events or Wednesday. Then again, what to do I don't
Speaker 9: know what to do?
Speaker 2: Round up around.
Speaker 9: We'll discuss that next year. But this year we have
Speaker 9: the fifty eighth annuals since Addie Saint Patrick's Day Parade,
Speaker 9: happening tomorrow March fourteenth, down at the Bank, starting at
Speaker 9: eleven forty five. So this route it's a pretty small well,
Speaker 9: it's a bit it's an oddly big barad in regards
Speaker 9: to how many floats there are, but the route itself
Speaker 9: is pretty small. It's down by Marringway and Central av
Speaker 9: You get every single Irish bar that you could possibly
Speaker 9: think of all of the Irish dancers making their way.
Speaker 9: You get the bagpipes and the Grand Marshal is Tony Pipe.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, how did he? How did he useph
Speaker 2: feed that of his? He even Irish Pike Pike.
Speaker 9: It was thin Tony O'Malley or something that I'd be okay,
Speaker 9: Tony Ryan.
Speaker 2: He's a tall guy, bless it.
Speaker 9: It is sponsored by Guinnis uh and I am not again,
Speaker 9: I'm not a beer drinker, as you know, but you
Speaker 9: gotta have a couple of green beers, maybe a Guinnis
Speaker 9: or two. Yeah, so that's a.
Speaker 2: Cut back with Pike. Pike likes to drink. I like
Speaker 2: Tony because he's a you like. Yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 9: The last time we all hung out, what was the
Speaker 9: the bar.
Speaker 2: And Redding that we would that yeah, yeah yeah. Austin
Speaker 2: was still of course, spend there for two thousand years.
Speaker 2: We'll be there for two thousand more. Austin Olmore is
Speaker 2: a celebrity bartender. That night we got to keep all
Speaker 2: the money. He made more money I think in one
Speaker 2: night than he does in a month here. It's pretty good.
Speaker 9: I do remember him questioning whether he should have a
Speaker 9: career change.
Speaker 2: Yes, that bar is looking good. That was a good
Speaker 2: night man, that was a lot of fun.
Speaker 9: We should recreate that. If you're listening, Augie, let's go.
Speaker 2: We got to run that one back for you.
Speaker 9: So honestly, Augies would probably be a great place to
Speaker 9: celebrate Saint Patty's Day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nice little small bar.
Speaker 9: Let's because dive bars, right, dive bars. Dive bars are
Speaker 9: the best dive bars, the epitome of Irish bars. And
Speaker 9: let's see so downtown if you are celebrating with the
Speaker 9: same Patties Day parade, the Red leper Red Leprechaun is
Speaker 9: the spot. The Holy Grail obviously always does something. O'Malley's
Speaker 9: in the Alley. This is my personal favorite. If you're
Speaker 9: really looking to go authentic and classic. You got Murphy's
Speaker 9: Pub in over the Ryan Clifton area, Cobblestone. They've been
Speaker 9: doing they have new ownership over in OTR Cobblestone got
Speaker 9: it and it's really nice because every season they're you know,
Speaker 9: they'll throw at Valentine's Day and.
Speaker 2: It'll last you about a month.
Speaker 9: They're doing that for Saint Patty's Day, which is great.
Speaker 2: Crowley's Molly Malone.
Speaker 9: Molly Malone's, and that is these staples. So if and
Speaker 9: if you want to really celebrate on Tuesday, on Saint
Speaker 9: Patti's Day, they are doing their staple. It's an all
Speaker 9: day festivity. They pop up the tent, they do green
Speaker 9: eggs and ham, they have multiple bands, take the next
Speaker 9: day off. They're playing any of the soccer matches or
Speaker 9: football matches that you could possibly think of. The fish
Speaker 9: and chips are going, the green beer is going. So
Speaker 9: if you're gonna actually really celebrate on Tuesday, go to
Speaker 9: O'Malley's or not. O'Malley's, Molly Malone's in Covington, and of
Speaker 9: course r P. McMurphy's.
Speaker 2: You've got what's the Irish bar we met at We
Speaker 2: remember a while ago, was in Kentucky. I forget where
Speaker 2: it was us. I can't remember Malone. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I think we're actually we're headed out of town that weekend,
Speaker 2: I think. And I was hard to get the CVG.
Speaker 2: I thought this is.
Speaker 9: Gonna be one of those FLI moments where we remember it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 9: you think about it too. In addition to all of
Speaker 9: our classic Irish pubs, the Red Leprechaun is hosting festivities
Speaker 9: all weekend long. Along with Ryan Geist, Braxton is hosting
Speaker 9: a seven bar bar crawl the winter House situation on
Speaker 9: Fountain Square. They're going to be having live music, green beer,
Speaker 9: all of that jazz, uh you name it. Just head downtown. Okay,
Speaker 9: there's gonna be something happening. There's a hot chance we're
Speaker 9: going to run into each other. These are these are
Speaker 9: my people and the bagpipes. I'm sure we'll be out
Speaker 9: and about. That's wait, where I remember where we were
Speaker 9: the pub? Was it just a yeah, yeah, yeah, where
Speaker 9: we grabbed dinner and then I took the dishware.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is good.
Speaker 9: Yeah, because I ordered a show shepherd.
Speaker 2: Remember there's a lot of pubs though.
Speaker 9: It's the same one that's also in Rookwood. It's like
Speaker 9: the Crestview pubs.
Speaker 2: Okay, it was good though. The food was really really good.
Speaker 9: It was fantastic. So that's happening all weekend long. Speaking
Speaker 9: of fun divy bars, I think I might have found
Speaker 9: one of my new favorite spots. And if you if
Speaker 9: you have never heard of it, or you try to
Speaker 9: look this up online, good luck. It has basically no
Speaker 9: digital footprint. It's called high Water Saloon.
Speaker 2: No digital footprint, that's what I want.
Speaker 9: Did good luck finding it. It's off of old Route eight,
Speaker 9: so you know it's gonna be a bumpy ride getting there.
Speaker 9: And came across this because the week that I bailed
Speaker 9: on you for the barrel pick at ten o'clock in
Speaker 9: the morning coming back from Augusta, Kentucky. So if you're
Speaker 9: going to and from Augusta, this is one of those
Speaker 9: must up places. And let me tell you, if every
Speaker 9: dive bar it had to close down, they shut down
Speaker 9: and you would consolidate into one. All of them have
Speaker 9: come into one, into this, into this place called High
Speaker 9: Water Saloon, and it is there's so many lights, there's
Speaker 9: so many pinball machines, there's so much to look at.
Speaker 9: So much is happening. And the owners they are from
Speaker 9: Vegas and they decided to leave Vegas post COVID all
Speaker 9: the craziness and find a spot out here and settle in.
Speaker 9: And so there's like a lot of Neon signs they have. Yeah,
Speaker 9: they have lawn chairs outside. It's just it's really hard
Speaker 9: to explain unless they.
Speaker 2: Got lawn chairs inside or outside.
Speaker 9: Ball the above inside and outside, so many different lights.
Speaker 9: There is something to look at in every single again,
Speaker 9: every dive bar has been consolidated into one. Yeah, this
Speaker 9: is it, and it's got It's like a gas station
Speaker 9: that's not a gas station. There's a pool table, I've
Speaker 9: got foods, ball. Yeah, they have a pool table, they
Speaker 9: have foosball, they have pinball, a little music set up
Speaker 9: in a corner. Colectic, eclectic, and then it's almost like
Speaker 9: a little gas station set up is inside because they
Speaker 9: have all curated snacks. I guess if you were at
Speaker 9: a gas station making a trip. Yeah, okay, so it's
Speaker 9: it's everything really cool. You can watch some sports, hang out.
Speaker 9: The owners were really really Melbourne, Melbourne, Kentucky off of
Speaker 9: Old Route eight. It's called high Water Saloon and I
Speaker 9: imagine it's going to be a great biker bar destination
Speaker 9: just knowing where it is. Highly recommend it.
Speaker 2: Check it out.
Speaker 9: This is one of those off the radar spots. Good
Speaker 9: luck looking it up because.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna, okay that I love those off the
Speaker 2: beaten paths. Yeah, no YELP, no Facebook, no X, no Insta,
Speaker 2: not p Interest.
Speaker 9: Nothing I will do on my no interest, even though
Speaker 9: they say, even though I say, no digital footprint, I
Speaker 9: will probably post.
Speaker 2: You will, okay, so you'll claim it.
Speaker 9: I will claim it because I haven't seen anybody else
Speaker 9: do it.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 9: Here we go if you're looking to totally shift gears here.
Speaker 9: So the Cincinnati Theater or Sinciety Children's Theater, they have recently,
Speaker 9: and we've talked about it a little bit, how they've
Speaker 9: taken over their new space in the Emory Building downtown
Speaker 9: and American Legacy tours. They are now actually starting to
Speaker 9: do behind the scenes tours.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 9: This is kind of rare, and they're not doing it
Speaker 9: all the time because a lot of the times the
Speaker 9: children Theater, the Children's Theater is in there performing and
Speaker 9: just this weekend and next weekend only, so the fourteenth, fifteenth,
Speaker 9: the twenty first, and the twenty second, you can go
Speaker 9: behind the scenes of this theater and see all of
Speaker 9: the new renovations. They have a standalone world renowned lift
Speaker 9: that's one of a kind. They invest an elevator so
Speaker 9: you know on the stage nowt yeah, like the stage
Speaker 9: out of the stage the weekend, like exactly like the weekend,
Speaker 9: and it's the largest stage lift in the country apparently.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Crazy, And they've invested over fifty one million in this
Speaker 9: glow up in this space. Allegedly it's haunted. It used
Speaker 9: to be home of the Mighty Well Wurlitzer Oregon. So
Speaker 9: there's just so much history in this space. Martin Luther
Speaker 9: King spoke at one point in time there the same
Speaker 9: thing with Eleanor Roosevelt. So when and if and when
Speaker 9: you take this tour with American Legacy Tours, you learn
Speaker 9: all about it. But you also see the renovations and it, honestly,
Speaker 9: it is beautiful. And right now their only available spots
Speaker 9: are March fourteenth at two p which is this Saturday,
Speaker 9: and then March twenty second at two p so they're
Speaker 9: going fast. But if you like history and you enjoy
Speaker 9: theater and you want to support children's theater as well
Speaker 9: as American Legacy Tapers, yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 2: Really cool, like one of those one of those treasures
Speaker 2: that no one knows about, the Memory Theater.
Speaker 9: Yeah, And I don't think people realize the significance of
Speaker 9: the history of just that building in general, because yes,
Speaker 9: part of that building is a theater, but it's a
Speaker 9: much bigger billy because it's the same building that's attached
Speaker 9: with coffee and porium and at one point in time,
Speaker 9: it was an element of a production plant. Now it's
Speaker 9: condos and apartments. There's a basketball court that's in that building.
Speaker 9: It's weird but very cool, a lot of history.
Speaker 2: They got snacks, they got lawn chares in there. They
Speaker 2: got flamingos, Flamingo pretty good, britty good well Al Martin
Speaker 2: in the local Loop.
Speaker 9: You know I love a good silent disco.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is that again?
Speaker 9: We talked about this a couple of months ago and
Speaker 9: they're bringing it back. This is where you will see.
Speaker 9: You have new fancy headphones you that would work theater,
Speaker 9: and when you buy a ticket, you go and there
Speaker 9: are three DJs and they give you a pair of
Speaker 9: headphones and they light up in different colors, so you
Speaker 9: have three different stations to listen to. And you just
Speaker 9: go and you hang out and you dance.
Speaker 2: And it's really funny just dancing to a different groove
Speaker 2: because there's three different DJs.
Speaker 9: Three different DJs, and they're kind of competing against each other.
Speaker 9: And I bring this up again because I'm big on
Speaker 9: trying to get people to go out and just do things.
Speaker 9: These days, I feel like it's hard sometimes to pull
Speaker 9: people out of their homes, whether people have social anxiety,
Speaker 9: whatever it might be. And this is a really, really
Speaker 9: great way to connect with people if you like music
Speaker 9: and you like to dance, where you don't necessarily have
Speaker 9: to talk to people, but you can kind of vibe
Speaker 9: and just be if you don't want to tell you
Speaker 9: can or you can.
Speaker 2: That is gen z stuff of all time. I know
Speaker 2: you're millennial, but it's centainly because it's a social gathering,
Speaker 2: but you don't have to talk to people. You can
Speaker 2: be in your own world while you're around other people.
Speaker 2: It's the most self absorbed.
Speaker 9: Is it self absorbing? Is it just fun?
Speaker 2: Well, it's fun, yeah, but if you think about it
Speaker 2: for longer than thirty seconds ago, it's kind of self
Speaker 2: absorbed because the whole point of live music is to
Speaker 2: bring people together in unison, and if you have three
Speaker 2: different things and headphones or not, there's no interaction there
Speaker 2: is there.
Speaker 9: I get what you're saying. I just think this is
Speaker 9: a totally different concept, like I wouldn't it's cool.
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 9: I say that it was created to you know, keep
Speaker 9: social isolation.
Speaker 2: That got for bluetooth, right.
Speaker 9: Yeah, what about the hard wire?
Speaker 2: Don't have to go anywhere. Yeah, because all the chords
Speaker 2: that to be so we tried.
Speaker 9: To because a game of jump up.
Speaker 2: We tried to do this at nineteen seventy two, and
Speaker 2: it's just a lot of people got strangled, trip broke legs.
Speaker 2: It's just it didn't work.
Speaker 9: They didn't understand the ground.
Speaker 2: We right, we brought it back and now okay, now
Speaker 2: it's wireless. Okay, I got it. The fact that this
Speaker 2: strangled to death there listen to thirty eight special. All right,
Speaker 2: so there's three different So do you know what the music,
Speaker 2: what the playlists are.
Speaker 9: Yeah, So what's great is you have three different DJs.
Speaker 9: One DJ is more modern dance tunes, another one's more
Speaker 9: EDM focused, and then the third one is seventies, eighties, nineties.
Speaker 9: And my favorite part about it, Number one, I love
Speaker 9: to dance, So it doesn't matter I'm going to be
Speaker 9: there anyway. Is you could kind of see the change
Speaker 9: color and see which DJ is sort of taking control
Speaker 9: of the dance.
Speaker 2: Is all the colors changed on the headphones?
Speaker 9: Yeah, wow, steps.
Speaker 2: In, Yeah you do, and your thought you just keep
Speaker 2: pressing the button. Here's like that's good, all right? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it certainly beats the chorded version of this. It was
Speaker 2: unmitigated this.
Speaker 9: That'd be a good SNL sit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, made the Silent Disco nineteen seventy two, version seventy eight.
Speaker 9: Somebody gets strangled in the yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, there's still the guy who set that whole thing,
Speaker 2: by the way, is still trying to get the knots
Speaker 2: on all the headphones like the Christmas lights. It's been
Speaker 2: working on it for fifty years.
Speaker 9: A fuse blows like, I.
Speaker 2: Can't get this not out. It's three hundred pairs of
Speaker 2: headphones and it's.
Speaker 9: Like the old school phones too with the Yeah, with the.
Speaker 2: Cord, that's right, it's long cord. We had that were
Speaker 2: a long yeah, spiral cord, viiral cord, and then you
Speaker 2: like get the upgraded one. It was thirty five feet
Speaker 2: long so you could take it from the kitchen all
Speaker 2: the way and then people walk in have to do
Speaker 2: the limbo and step over it. Yeah, that was the
Speaker 2: whole thing.
Speaker 9: It was before we've come.
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, so Alie Martin local loop. You got
Speaker 2: a food thing real quick and we're on late here.
Speaker 9: Hey, yeah, this will be a quick plug because I
Speaker 9: want to follow up on this next week. Anyway, It's
Speaker 9: a sandwich shop called Alvio over in Marymont. Got it. Uh,
Speaker 9: It's been more than one or two people have told
Speaker 9: me about this spot, and I'm going to go check
Speaker 9: it out this weekend. So follow along with the journey.
Speaker 9: But I might they might have the because we're in
Speaker 9: lenten season. The sandwich, the tuna sandwich. This the fish
Speaker 9: sandwich to go to. It's called the Latano. It's like
Speaker 9: a lemon caper aoli and it's an oil packed tuna,
Speaker 9: red onion, parsley, chili sauce, arugula, lemon oil, all on
Speaker 9: a fresh sabotta bread. And I'm on a mission to
Speaker 9: go and just see what it's about. Ever, nothing but
Speaker 9: good things, So I will report.
Speaker 2: Back for good Sammy who's not all right? Ali Martin
Speaker 2: at Ali Martin eight is her handle, and the good
Speaker 2: Drama on YouTube. Check it out because she has this
Speaker 2: whole thing about updating her license. We talked about this
Speaker 2: last week.
Speaker 9: So that took the test yesterday.
Speaker 2: That was the driver's licensed version of the accorded headphone debacle. Anyway,
Speaker 2: have a great weekend, Happy Saint Patty's Day. Willie on
Speaker 2: the way next, Happy weekend, Scott Sloane returns nine o'clock
Speaker 2: Monday morning. See you then, have a good one. Seven
Speaker 2: hundred wws since then,