Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen and Saturday midday
Speaker 1: really cold Saturday morning. I hate this weather. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what. This is something to behold. That situation out
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, with the fraud out there, it's just staggering,
Speaker 1: and it only gets worse. I really do believe we're
Speaker 1: only at the tip of the iceberg on this thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, at least one billion dollars basically just stolen
Speaker 1: from the taxpayers, and the whistleblowers say it could go
Speaker 1: up to eight billion, probably land somewhere in the middle.
Speaker 2: It's just mind boggling.
Speaker 1: How something like that could happen under the government's nose.
Speaker 1: You know, I did this. I just felt like playing
Speaker 1: around here a little bit. So just to put it
Speaker 1: in perspective, let's just assume the total loss is one
Speaker 1: billion bucks. I looked up on AI and I trust
Speaker 1: a pretty much what the salary for a Minneapolis police
Speaker 1: officer is. The average salary, Boy, it's not bad. Ninety
Speaker 1: six thousand dollars a year. So I divided ninety six
Speaker 1: thousand by one billion. It came up to and it
Speaker 1: was wrong. It's not my fault, it's ours, but it's
Speaker 1: not wrong. They could hire ten thousand, four hundred and
Speaker 1: sixteen police officers with that one billion dollars. Again, it
Speaker 1: is a staggering waste of taxpayer money.
Speaker 2: Basically, it's three programs.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about a couple here today, and
Speaker 1: we're also going to be talking to Janie Heisel about
Speaker 1: this at eleven. She's on this, and I feel very
Speaker 1: comfortable saying this as tight as any reporter in this country.
Speaker 1: She was recognized by Newt Gingrich for her reporting on
Speaker 1: this story. She fouled a news story yesterday. I believe
Speaker 1: it was with some more facts. We'll be talking to
Speaker 1: Janis at eleven o'clock about it. So the big one is,
Speaker 1: or at least the first one is feeding our future.
Speaker 2: Sounds good, doesn't it. They always have those names that
Speaker 2: they put on them. This one. They know that more.
Speaker 1: Than two hundred and fifty million dollars was stolen from
Speaker 1: the taxpayers on this one. So they used the money
Speaker 1: to buy luxury cars, houses, beachfront property, jewelry. And if
Speaker 1: that sounds familiar, that's exactly what Black Lives Matter, the
Speaker 1: sainted Black Lives Matter did, And to the best of
Speaker 1: my knowledge, there were no prosecutions in that gee, I
Speaker 1: wonder why, Okay, Medicaid claims submitted through the program that's
Speaker 1: called Housing Stabilization Services. So they're supposed to use the
Speaker 1: medicaid dollars, which Medicaid is healthcare related Medicaid dollars to
Speaker 1: fund find and maintain housing for senior citizens, people with
Speaker 1: disabilities or substance abuse. They got these people got the
Speaker 1: names of people from places like addiction treatment centers. Pick
Speaker 1: up the phone and say, hey, you know, we're from
Speaker 1: the government. We're here to help. Who can we help?
Speaker 1: Give us your list?
Speaker 2: And they then the Somalians inflated submitted inflated numbers in
Speaker 2: these reimbursement claims. That one at least now reached one
Speaker 2: hundred and four million in twenty twenty four, one hundred
Speaker 2: four million dollars of the taxpayer's dough taken. This one
Speaker 2: might be the most just ballsy, I guess is the
Speaker 2: way to say it. People have no function at all
Speaker 2: figuring out what's right and what's fair. Autism care funding Autism,
Speaker 2: of course is a big thing now, and that's a
Speaker 2: good thing. I've got a little grand niece who is autistic.
Speaker 2: I'm glad to see that happen. Didn't happen here though.
Speaker 1: All right, there's a twenty eight year old woman by
Speaker 1: the name of Asha Faran Hassan. She would recruit parents
Speaker 1: to get their kids checked for autism. Okay, every child
Speaker 1: recruited by this person, guess what was diagnosed with autism,
Speaker 1: whether they had it or not.
Speaker 2: And the overwhelming number did not.
Speaker 1: I mean, wouldn't you think that that would stand out
Speaker 1: to an auditor, to a controller, or to a governor
Speaker 1: and attorney general for that matter. So anyway, they got
Speaker 1: the kickback. The somebodi's got the money, and they gave
Speaker 1: a kickback of three hundred to fifteen hundred dollars per
Speaker 1: excuse me, fifteen thousand dollars per child they just put
Speaker 1: in their pocket. Now, the common thread among these examples
Speaker 1: is that it's obvious, although I can't say it, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say it, most of the defendants, the people involved
Speaker 1: in this thing are of Somalian heritage. But again, you're
Speaker 1: not allowed to say that because if you do, you
Speaker 1: may be called are you ready racist? Or even worse
Speaker 1: than that, you may be called Islamophobic.
Speaker 2: That's legit too. And as we get into this story, you're.
Speaker 1: Gonna see people did not want to move on this,
Speaker 1: and that is one of the reasons, believe it or not.
Speaker 2: And here's the kicker.
Speaker 1: This is just if it's not bad enough, this is
Speaker 1: the cherry on top of the Sunday Some of the money,
Speaker 1: from what I'm reading, a great deal of the money
Speaker 1: is kicked back to a group by the name of
Speaker 1: Al Shabab, which just happens to be a Somalian terrorist group.
Speaker 1: Isn't that a nice little touch our money, taxpayer money
Speaker 1: going to fund something like that. And this is Janis's reporting.
Speaker 1: Janice Heisler's reporting from a couple of weeks ago. I
Speaker 1: just want to read you something there. There's a guy
Speaker 1: named William Klan. He's a former Federal Reserve Systems analyst.
Speaker 1: He told the Epoch Times that he believes and I'm
Speaker 1: going to quote him here. Janis quoted him in the story.
Speaker 1: He believes with one hundred percent certainty, one hundred percent certainty,
Speaker 1: that our Shabab is receiving the money, most likely despite
Speaker 1: the sender's intentions to benefit their friends and relatives back home.
Speaker 1: So I guess that means the thieves are stealing from
Speaker 1: the thieves you get what you asked for. I guess
Speaker 1: does that surprise you at all? Given the people that
Speaker 1: are involved in this?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Hell no. And of course it's a terrorist group.
Speaker 1: But you and I through this, our tax pro federal
Speaker 1: taxpayer dollars were funding it. You know, you might be
Speaker 1: asking yourself, because I did. I asked myself, how in
Speaker 1: the heck could something like this go on? And I've
Speaker 1: never heard about it. I follow this stuff closely. I
Speaker 1: didn't hear anything about this. You know, Tim Waltz was
Speaker 1: the Democrat candidate for vice president. Wouldn't you think that
Speaker 1: would have come up in their vetting process. Pretty bad.
Speaker 1: But with respect to the media, listen to this network coverage. Now,
Speaker 1: this was as of early this week, so the numbers
Speaker 1: might not be the same now, but at any rate, ABC,
Speaker 1: the Big Three, ABC, CBS, NBC, none of whom are
Speaker 1: very relevant anymore, but it gives you an idea. ABC
Speaker 1: gave zero minutes to the story, CBS zero minutes coverage,
Speaker 1: but ABC, man, they really turned everything over to learn
Speaker 1: about this.
Speaker 2: They gave it one minute. It's just it's.
Speaker 1: Sad, and there were people that knew about this. This
Speaker 1: is from Yahoo News, a group of Minnesota State employees
Speaker 1: said that they wrote to former Vice President Kamala Harris,
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris and the Democratic National Committee multiple times quote
Speaker 1: warning them about Waltz and what they described as his
Speaker 1: quote incompetence, fraud, scandals, and retaliation close quote. Of course,
Speaker 1: Walts was Harris's running mate in twenty twenty four. Okay,
Speaker 1: ABC World News, and they're all circle on the wagons
Speaker 1: protecting Tim Waltz. I mean, that's what they're doing. You know,
Speaker 1: you can always they can always count on the mainstream
Speaker 1: media to cover their tales. Okay again from Yahoo News,
Speaker 1: ABC's World News Tonight, NBC's Nightly News, and CBS Evening
Speaker 1: News have not mentioned Waltz by name in the past week,
Speaker 1: according to a search of transcripts using Gravyan media. Not
Speaker 1: familiar with that, but didn't even mention the guy. He's
Speaker 1: the governor. I mean, Okay, the story goes on, and
Speaker 1: this is this just drives home what I just said.
Speaker 1: The terms Somalia and Somalian were also not used on
Speaker 1: any of the three network newscast And let's just face it,
Speaker 1: that's what this is about. The overwhelming majority of these
Speaker 1: people are of Somalian descent. I think that's relevant. It's
Speaker 1: relevant for a political reason. You know, these people, Walls
Speaker 1: and others. They don't want to honk off that community.
Speaker 1: So it's fine, you know, still billion dollars. But I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna make you mad. Somebody may call me islamophobic.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we couldn't have that.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 1: The story goes on in Yahoo News another day, another
Speaker 1: massive story of blue state political mouthfeasans hidden by the
Speaker 1: elitist media nightly news NewsBusters, which is a media watchdog group.
Speaker 2: They're really good, got a great website.
Speaker 1: NewsBusters analysts Jorge Bania set in a report for the
Speaker 1: conservative media watchdog group. Quote this time, there's not a
Speaker 1: peep about the exploding welfare scandal currently engulfing the state
Speaker 1: of Minnesota, which directly implicates some of its senior most
Speaker 1: elected officials. That's close quote two wit Governor Wallace. So
Speaker 1: you kind of get the idea. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: hadn't heard about that, that's one of the reasons why.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're not gonna they're just not gonna cover it. Well,
Speaker 1: they have to cover it now, but they're going to
Speaker 1: protect their people. It's just the way it is, you know,
Speaker 1: it's overwhelming, this whole thing is. It's just it's hard
Speaker 1: to believe. And those elected officials. There's no way that
Speaker 1: the attorney general of that state and the governor of
Speaker 1: that state did not know about this. There's no way,
Speaker 1: you know. In spite of that, too, Kamala Harris picks
Speaker 1: him for her running mate. I mean, she could have
Speaker 1: had Josh Sapiro in Pennsylvania, a far better candidate, but
Speaker 1: she couldn't do that because if she did that, she
Speaker 1: would honk off the anti Semitic base of the Democrat Party.
Speaker 2: So she picks this bozo and you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I don't mean to get personal, but he really is
Speaker 1: the guy's of buffoon. I mean when he got picked,
Speaker 1: remember going out on the stage there, waving his hands wildly.
Speaker 1: It just didn't make any sense. Well, after the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two federal raids, this mister glan that we were
Speaker 1: talking about before, again, this is right from Janisi's story,
Speaker 1: last week's story, not the new one. After the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two federal raids, mister GLn looked back at earlier scandals.
Speaker 1: He believes they set the stage for the schemes that
Speaker 1: eventually emerged. The scope is now so over overwhelming that
Speaker 1: federal prosecutors admit, listen to this, folks, listen to this.
Speaker 1: They admit that they lack the manpower to charge everyone involved.
Speaker 1: Let me give it to you again, federal prosecutors, and
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. People, those offices are well funded.
Speaker 1: Federal prosecutors admit they lack the manpower to charge everyone involved.
Speaker 1: That is inexcusable. If you don't have the manpower in
Speaker 1: the federal realm, you can get it. But I have
Speaker 1: never seen a situation where any prosecutor at any level says, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, it's so overwhelming, we don't have the manpower
Speaker 1: to charge these people. So you know we're gonna have
Speaker 1: to turn a blind eye to that unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Well, it goes on. Just a couple more sentences here
Speaker 2: from Genesis.
Speaker 1: Report over the federal childcare assistance program being vulnerable to
Speaker 1: fraud date back to two thousand and nine. Two thousand
Speaker 1: and nine, that's according to a twenty nineteen two nine
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen Minnesota report. So they had an idea specific
Speaker 1: concerns about Somali run childcare programs in Minnesota exploiting those
Speaker 1: weaknesses surfaced around twenty and sixteen.
Speaker 2: Mister Clown said.
Speaker 1: By twenty eighteen, a Minnesota whistleblower and some media organizations
Speaker 1: were reporting that up to one hundred million dollars was
Speaker 1: being stolen via fraudulent childcare billing. Those reports also alleged
Speaker 1: the stolen money was funding terrorist organizations in Somalia. I
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe you agree with me, maybe you don't,
Speaker 1: but this is unbelievable. I've seen government ways, you know,
Speaker 1: you hear the stories about the five hundred dollars hammers
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. This is just the
Speaker 1: amounts involved in the fact that in mister grond who
Speaker 1: janis interviewed Forget who he's with, but he's a respected guy.
Speaker 1: He said he's one hundred percent sure it went to
Speaker 1: these groups.
Speaker 2: It boggles the mind.
Speaker 1: You know you talk about affordability, Yes, of course it's important.
Speaker 1: How about the word accountability. Somebody has to be held
Speaker 1: accountable for this. You know, Waltz is in his almost
Speaker 1: finished with his I believe, second term, running for a
Speaker 1: third term. You don't think that guy knew anything about it.
Speaker 1: There's just no way he didn't. We have to have
Speaker 1: accountability for this and to that end, James Comer of
Speaker 1: the Congress Republican Congress, head of the Oversight Committee, he's
Speaker 1: already all over it. But you know what he and
Speaker 1: that committee, we're all over the Biden crime family. You know,
Speaker 1: the stuff in millions of dollars into a bank account,
Speaker 1: washing it twenty times over and nothing happened. And I'm
Speaker 1: not blaming mister Comer, but something has to happen on
Speaker 1: this one. Again just based upon sheer numbers. Anyway, That's
Speaker 1: what I think you are going to be hearing more
Speaker 1: about this story on this show, at least, I promise you,
Speaker 1: I don't give a damn if they call me a
Speaker 1: racist or islamophlobic.
Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about it again.
Speaker 1: At eleven o'clock we're gonna be hearing from Janis Heisel
Speaker 1: of the Epoch Times, who I believe that apparently Newt
Speaker 1: Gingrich believes is the reporter that's got the best handle
Speaker 1: on this story. And that's a big deal, it really is.
Speaker 1: But at any rate, I want to know what you think.
Speaker 1: Of course, seven four nine, seven thousand, one, eight hundred,
Speaker 1: The big one are the numbers. Mike Allen Saturday Midday
Speaker 1: Phones in just one minute here. I wanted to let
Speaker 1: people know too. From eleven thirty to noon open lines.
Speaker 1: So if you did not get through this time, try
Speaker 1: eleven thirty.
Speaker 2: Just one thing. I promise I'll get to the phones.
Speaker 1: This article in Yahoo about the media coverage is really good.
Speaker 2: Okay. I just want to read a quote here from
Speaker 2: the Governor Tim Walls. I will note he's really.
Speaker 1: Worried about saying this every time. I will note it's
Speaker 1: not just some allions. Minnesota is a generous state. Minnesota
Speaker 1: is a prosperous state, a well run state. We're triple
Speaker 1: A bond rated. But that attracts criminals. Those people are
Speaker 1: going to jail. We're doing everything we can, but to
Speaker 1: demonize an entire community on the actions of a few,
Speaker 1: it's lazy. Well, let me point out a couple of things, Governor.
Speaker 1: It ain't the actions of a few. This is overwhelmingly
Speaker 1: run by the graft, by some allions. And you know what,
Speaker 1: there's not a darn thing wrong about pointing that out,
Speaker 1: you know. And the other thing he says, they they're
Speaker 1: going to attract criminals because they're triple A bond rated.
Speaker 1: You know, I've been in the criminal justice system for
Speaker 1: more years than I care to even know.
Speaker 2: I've never heard of that. I don't think they're way
Speaker 2: up on the municipal bond situation. The guy is just delusional,
Speaker 2: he really is. And that's the dude that's number one
Speaker 2: who has to be held accountable. Anyway, enough of me,
Speaker 2: let's talk to Melanie. Hey, Good morning, Melanie.
Speaker 5: Good morning, Mike Allen. Thanks for taking my call. I'm
Speaker 5: really really super shy. So okay, this is the time
Speaker 5: I've called WLW in the past two weeks because you're
Speaker 5: my new favorite radio stations.
Speaker 2: Ah, thank you, that's great, thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, I just wanted to say resarting Omar. I actually,
Speaker 5: back in twenty sixteen was just having an awakening and
Speaker 5: getting away from leftist stuff. But I was friends online
Speaker 5: and on the telephone with her digital campaign manager, and
Speaker 5: he's a really nice guy. They're nice people. I think
Speaker 5: they're just misdirected like I was. They're getting a lot
Speaker 5: of people into socialism with a saying it goes that
Speaker 5: all socialism is is the radical idea of sharing.
Speaker 1: I heard that. I heard that this week. You know what,
Speaker 1: that ain't gonna fly, but you know, let him say it.
Speaker 5: Yeah. And as far as like the racial stuff goes,
Speaker 5: I mean, they're really coming down on white people. And
Speaker 5: I just wanted to read a quote took Okay, all right.
Speaker 5: The quote is, it is in the Jewish interest, It
Speaker 5: is in humanity's interest that white's experience a genocide until
Speaker 5: white children are burned alive, white women rape mutilated, murdered,
Speaker 5: and all white men who have not been slaughtered watch
Speaker 5: powerlessly as their people are terrorized. Only then will mankind
Speaker 5: be on a more equal footing, ready to discuss white
Speaker 5: privilege and the apparent ship on the soldiers that minorities have.
Speaker 5: And that was Ishmael Lovitz.
Speaker 2: Who is that person?
Speaker 6: Is he?
Speaker 5: Abbi?
Speaker 2: Okay? A rabbi said that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, a rabbi said that. And then Ariel Sharone declared
Speaker 5: in two thousand and one, we the Jewish people control
Speaker 5: America and the Americans know it.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, you're not anti Semitic, are you, Melanie.
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 5: I'm actually Jewish. I actually assimilated though and became a Christian.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, And I appreciate your calling, but
Speaker 1: I don't know how can a Jewish a person feel
Speaker 1: that way in a rabbi.
Speaker 2: I don't understand that I lost her. Darn it. I
Speaker 2: don't get it.
Speaker 1: I mean she said she's Jewish. You know she's quoting
Speaker 1: whoever the hell she was quoting a rabbi. I don't
Speaker 1: get it. I wouldn't break my heart if she doesn't.
Speaker 2: Call back again.
Speaker 1: How about Fred in Saint Petersburg, Man, I wish I
Speaker 1: was there, Hey, Fred, how you doing.
Speaker 7: I'm doing great?
Speaker 6: Mike.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that woman she I don't think she was on
Speaker 7: a straight and narrow now, you know what I mean.
Speaker 8: Anyway, I've actually been following this for four or five years.
Speaker 8: I subscribed to a podcast that's out of St. Paul, Minneapolis,
Speaker 8: and they've been talking about this before.
Speaker 7: It's got to be four or five years.
Speaker 9: Anyway.
Speaker 7: My point, they are so bold as to they actually
Speaker 7: had a woman come from Seattle with.
Speaker 8: One hundred thousand dollars cash in a bag. This guy
Speaker 8: was about to go on trial. She went to one
Speaker 8: of the juror's house with that bag of money. The juror, Yeah,
Speaker 8: I swear you're turned her in. I think she's in jail.
Speaker 7: I wish I could remember the names, you know, I
Speaker 7: can't pronounce any of these names.
Speaker 8: But anyway, and there's also a list the whistleful or
Speaker 8: turned into a list or somebody did seventy nine people
Speaker 8: that are investigate being investigated or about to be arrested
Speaker 8: or whatever.
Speaker 7: There's only one name on that whole list that you
Speaker 7: or I could pronounce.
Speaker 8: So yeah, Walls is saying, well, you know, we can't discriminate. Okay,
Speaker 8: I get it, fine, but you know the famous last
Speaker 8: words is.
Speaker 7: They're not all crooks.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, in your example, it sounds like about
Speaker 1: ninety five percent. Or you know what if one group
Speaker 1: I don't care who they are, white people, Jewish people,
Speaker 1: Camplic people, whatever, are predominant a in a scam, by god,
Speaker 1: it's okay to say that, and nobody's going to tell
Speaker 1: me differently.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Well, another thing I forgot today.
Speaker 8: Early on, there's a guy got arrested for doing this,
Speaker 8: and his lawyer talked one of Ellison's guys into actually
Speaker 8: letting him go back to some molly and take care
Speaker 8: of some loose ends. He bought a motel and a
Speaker 8: bunch of land, and of course he never came back, right,
Speaker 8: But that was early on, and I guarantee you you know,
Speaker 8: Harris didn't pick Walls just because he's a great he'll
Speaker 8: be a great vice president. I guarantee you this money
Speaker 8: was being funneled somehow to the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it's just not only that she didn't
Speaker 1: want to risk losing Minnesota so that a small group
Speaker 1: of people really chose some believe her running mate Josh
Speaker 1: Shapiro was so heads and shoulders above her as a
Speaker 1: VP pick, and now she's trashing and he's trashing her
Speaker 1: right back.
Speaker 2: It's just it's a debacle, is what it is.
Speaker 1: But you know that that woman that called we don't
Speaker 1: do anti semitism on this show, we just don't.
Speaker 7: She was a plan. Yes, you know, she knew what
Speaker 7: she was doing.
Speaker 8: Another thing on Shapeiro, you know he probably didn't want
Speaker 8: to do it anyway, right, he was smart and not
Speaker 8: doing it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he would have gone down the crapper. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess we'll have to see. But I really appreciate
Speaker 1: the call for it.
Speaker 2: I got a lot.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you. Uh let's talk to Eric in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Hey Eric, how you doing.
Speaker 9: Hey, Mike, really.
Speaker 10: Good, Thank you appreciate you taking my call.
Speaker 2: Okay, uh uh.
Speaker 10: Kind of a two part thing. Here today. You know,
Speaker 10: when we talk about state or local grift of government,
Speaker 10: how about we look at Aftet pure Bal having his
Speaker 10: carnwreath assess last year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw.
Speaker 7: That, what kind of.
Speaker 4: One of more on who who would vote for.
Speaker 10: An idiot like this?
Speaker 1: Well it didn't come out during the election. I don't know,
Speaker 1: Maybe somebody was sitting on it. I don't know. You know,
Speaker 1: I'd rather criticize him for his policies. But that's not
Speaker 1: a good thing for an elected official to have, you know,
Speaker 1: being out.
Speaker 6: There a.
Speaker 10: Complete irresponsibility, and how is he managing the city's budget.
Speaker 10: But on a secondary note, I mean, how easy is
Speaker 10: it for government drift and corruption and leaky dollars to
Speaker 10: go out when and I'm sorry to hear I didn't
Speaker 10: didn't know about your grandniece, but autism. It seems to
Speaker 10: me that there is way too much leakage of money
Speaker 10: coming out of autism. Really and and I'll give you
Speaker 10: two examples. And and I wanted to make sure I
Speaker 10: came with some with some examples. And I know it
Speaker 10: might be a little bit of a of a contentious claim,
Speaker 10: but I watched a podcast recently, uh called trigger Nometry,
Speaker 10: and they had quote the world's leading expert on autism, uh,
Speaker 10: doctor Simon Baron Cohen. And when they the first question
Speaker 10: they asked is what is autism. When you don't get
Speaker 10: a straight answer right away as to what it actually is,
Speaker 10: it certainly makes you a little suspect. But then you
Speaker 10: also go and look at the Trump administration and uh,
Speaker 10: mister Kennedy are trying to find out the causes of autism.
Speaker 10: There have been advocacy groups that have said, and this
Speaker 10: is from The Guardian from October of this year, so
Speaker 10: they're less concerned about what's causing autism as they are
Speaker 10: about funding advocacy programs and helping people to live with autism.
Speaker 10: I mean that that sounds completely bizarre, Mike.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine it?
Speaker 3: Does?
Speaker 10: I imagine the uh, the Dough.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, the Dough ought to be going to research
Speaker 1: into causes of it. I know exactly what you're talking about. Frankly,
Speaker 1: I haven't followed it that closely, but there's a lot
Speaker 1: of talk out there about it. But yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: try to find a cure first and then we'll worry
Speaker 1: about the other thing.
Speaker 6: Absolutely.
Speaker 10: I mean, could you imagine the Susan Coleman breast cancer research,
Speaker 10: people saying, well, we're not sorried about what's causing it
Speaker 10: as we are to getting money to people who are
Speaker 10: suffering from it. Yeah, it just seems completely bizarre and
Speaker 10: ripe for government corruptions. So I appreciate you, Mike. I
Speaker 10: love your show. You are appointment Radio every Saturday.
Speaker 2: I thank you, Eric, thank you so much for that.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Yeah, I mean, fund it the research
Speaker 2: for the cause.
Speaker 1: And I don't know much about autism. Perhaps I should
Speaker 1: know more, and I'm going to educate myself, but my god,
Speaker 1: it seems like there's a lot of it. There are
Speaker 1: some that speculate it's something that we're doing food supply
Speaker 1: or something like that. I have no idea, but it's
Speaker 1: important to find out if we can. Let's see who
Speaker 1: is next. I want to be fair. How about William? Hey, William,
Speaker 1: how you doing?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 6: All right? Good?
Speaker 11: Why is it that we can always find a cause
Speaker 11: and generate a sense of or a method to fund
Speaker 11: these plans, but never audit them along the way.
Speaker 1: Well, that needs to happen. It's hard to fathom, it
Speaker 1: really is, William. It's hard to fathom that this situation
Speaker 1: out there in Minnesota wasn't audited.
Speaker 2: You're right, that's exactly what has to happen.
Speaker 1: And you know my government experience when I worked for
Speaker 1: the government, not that much and not at that high
Speaker 1: highest levels.
Speaker 2: I know they did audit these people from time to time.
Speaker 11: Well, I have a relative, my daughter, who works for
Speaker 11: a school system, and the whole purpose of her job,
Speaker 11: this whole purpose is to make sure the monies.
Speaker 6: Are going where they're supposed to go. Yep and white.
Speaker 11: We can't do that with the government. I'll never understand.
Speaker 2: I don't enter it.
Speaker 11: Yeah, so that's all I have.
Speaker 1: Okay, I appreciate the call, Thank you very much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know you're going to use government money. You ought
Speaker 1: to be accountable or answerable to someone, whether it's a controller,
Speaker 1: an auditor, or whatever. How in the heck people can
Speaker 1: steal at a minimum a billion bucks from the government
Speaker 1: and seemingly get away with it. Now I know Tampon
Speaker 1: tim says, well, we've got some going to jail and
Speaker 1: even more are Well where were you?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 1: I just read the report that I think it was
Speaker 1: Janis's reporting that people knew about this or had an
Speaker 1: idea two thousand and nine twenty and sixteen. How can
Speaker 1: it go on? Then again, this is just the tip
Speaker 1: of the iceberg. Hey, we got time for one more quickie?
Speaker 1: How about Rob?
Speaker 6: Hey?
Speaker 2: Rob?
Speaker 6: Canm I tell you today?
Speaker 2: I'm good? Got about two and a half minutes.
Speaker 12: Wasn't the first time on a repo issue with mister
Speaker 12: pure evil. I don't understand that he's making money. His wife,
Speaker 12: Epitheen's in the medical profession as a doctor, so someone
Speaker 12: needs to look at the finances there. Secondly, who is
Speaker 12: the attorney that's representing the protesters and rioters that are
Speaker 12: getting eight plus million dollars? Can you name the firm
Speaker 12: or can you name the legal representative who's going to
Speaker 12: cash in on about thirty forty percent of that money
Speaker 12: that we're going to reward these clowns that tore up
Speaker 12: the city, spit on through whatever, steel balls, pieces of concrete, rocks,
Speaker 12: that everything at. The police officers, their hands have been tied.
Speaker 12: And as far as accountability of the last comment a
Speaker 12: few years back, the city council folks, they were totally
Speaker 12: preserve evidence.
Speaker 9: Preserve evidence.
Speaker 6: Yeah, welth of them didn't.
Speaker 9: Nothing happened to them, Mike, There's no accountability locally, on
Speaker 9: the state, on the federal level, it's almost like the
Speaker 9: people the dog chasing the tail. Yeah, there's no accountability
Speaker 9: anywhere unless you're on the other side.
Speaker 1: With common sense exactly exactly, And I'm gonna answer your concerns.
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. We're bumping up against the news,
Speaker 1: but you bring up a lot of good things. I
Speaker 1: did read a couple of stories. Fox nineteen story and
Speaker 1: the Inquire's story about that situation with respect to the
Speaker 1: money that these protesters are going to get makes me
Speaker 1: want to vomit too. I didn't recognize I take that back.
Speaker 1: One of the lawyers I think was al Gerhardstein. I
Speaker 1: gotta say I was a very very good lawyer. These
Speaker 1: are the kind of cases he takes. Once a lawyer
Speaker 1: accepts the case, I mean, you gotta do what you
Speaker 1: gotta do for your client.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: The onus I don't think is on the turn The
Speaker 1: onus is on the city. I mean, you know, they
Speaker 1: rack up the city for what was an eight million,
Speaker 1: and then you got Chief Fiji. They're gonna have to
Speaker 1: back up the brinks truck to city Hall to settle
Speaker 1: with her and the fire chief as well. It's just negligence.
Speaker 1: And again, if you live in the city and pay
Speaker 1: the earnings tax, I don't anymore. Thank god, it's your money. Anyway,
Speaker 1: we have to take a break, but when we get back,
Speaker 1: we are going to talk to the aforementioned Christopher Smith.
Speaker 1: We am talked to him in a while. Mike Allen's
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW.
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Speaker 1: A plug of Saturday midday. Well, I tell you what
Speaker 1: we talked a little bit about it. Someone tells me
Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about this for a while. Eight
Speaker 1: million dollars settlement that if you live in the city
Speaker 1: or work in the city, it's your earnings tax money
Speaker 1: you're paying for it. And that's on top of what
Speaker 1: I know they're going to end up pay and Chief Thiji,
Speaker 1: and I believe that the fire chief got a pretty
Speaker 1: good settlement too. Here to talk about that and other
Speaker 1: issues is Christopher Schmidman. Christopher, thanks for joining.
Speaker 4: Us, Hey, thank you so much for having me on.
Speaker 6: Mike.
Speaker 4: I am just as shocked as you are on a
Speaker 4: number of fronts, you know, because you're hearing. You know,
Speaker 4: the city is issuing judgment bonds, which means we don't
Speaker 4: have the money to pay, so we're issuing debt. The
Speaker 4: public has to digest that. We know that the interest
Speaker 4: rates aren't the way they used to be ten fifteen
Speaker 4: years ago. They're not two point five percent or twenty
Speaker 4: years ago when they issued ninety four million dollars of
Speaker 4: debt for the street car. So this is probably you know,
Speaker 4: in the seven sixty seven percent on on ten million,
Speaker 4: because we're giving the lawyers two million, So this is
Speaker 4: a ten million dollar settlement. And think about for the
Speaker 4: public here. Because I was the vice mayor serving with
Speaker 4: John Cranley, so I'm not running away from any of this.
Speaker 4: We had people, We had people in downtown who were
Speaker 4: setting fires, breaking into businesses surrounding our uh, surrounding city Hall.
Speaker 4: We had swat down there, we had the police, and
Speaker 4: the amount of overtime that we were spending in order
Speaker 4: to keep the businesses and the core of our city
Speaker 4: together was just an extraordinary time. And so to wake
Speaker 4: up and here we're giving ten million dollars, not eight
Speaker 4: point one because the lawyers are going to get a
Speaker 4: couple of million dollars and were issue judgment bonds. You
Speaker 4: and I know, and you just said it. The taxpayers
Speaker 4: are paying this bill. What could the mayor have done differently?
Speaker 2: I thought he handled it very well.
Speaker 4: But I'm saying, no, John handled it well. I'm saying,
Speaker 4: what could this mayor has done? Which is saying, let's
Speaker 4: go to trial. I want to try. I want a
Speaker 4: jury to come out and say in southern Ohio we
Speaker 4: owe ten million dollars to people who are breaking the
Speaker 4: law in downtown. Let's let's put everybody on trial and
Speaker 4: let's let them decide what this settlement is.
Speaker 6: Like.
Speaker 4: That's what That's what's so frustrating for me. Like, I'm
Speaker 4: just tired of it, man, I'm tired of all the
Speaker 4: race baiting, all of this, you know. I'm you know, reparations.
Speaker 4: I need this and I need that. This is time
Speaker 4: for people to work, handle their business, do what you
Speaker 4: need to do, raise your families, pay your child support,
Speaker 4: you know, do what you're supposed to do in this
Speaker 4: world to make the world better. There was no reason,
Speaker 4: Like a peaceful protest is one thing, right, but that
Speaker 4: is not what we were experiencing in downtown. We were
Speaker 4: not experiencing peaceful protests. Now, were there people down there
Speaker 4: who were being peaceful? Yes, among the chaos, right, but
Speaker 4: there's enough video out there for anybody to see what
Speaker 4: was happening downtown wasn't peaceful? Mike Allen, what does this
Speaker 4: mean to our cops going forward when we have the
Speaker 4: next situation? Right, they're talking about we're going to put
Speaker 4: together my policies. That don't mean what do you mean? Right?
Speaker 4: What do you mean You're saying that when they're riots
Speaker 4: in your city, you can't quell them. Well, that's the
Speaker 4: way to bring law in order. That's back to our city.
Speaker 1: That's the way it's trending, Christopher, not only in this city,
Speaker 1: in other cities too. I mean, he had the situation
Speaker 1: on the bridge where I guess that Covington police officer
Speaker 1: is in a jam on that. You know what, I
Speaker 1: never participated, from a cop perspective, in a riot, But
Speaker 1: you know, you can't be genteel about everything. One thing
Speaker 1: I want to do here, Christopher, if you would indulge me,
Speaker 1: I want to read it's a very short statement from
Speaker 1: FOP president Ken Kober. Wanted to try to get him today,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't able to do it. I'm gonna try
Speaker 1: to get him on next Saturday.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
Speaker 1: Here's his statement, the FOP president, the city asked our
Speaker 1: officers to enforce the curfew they imposed by arresting individuals
Speaker 1: causing chaos and destruction during the riots of twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: This is the importance, I think a very good part
Speaker 1: out of ideological persuasions. The law Department dismissed hundreds of charges,
Speaker 1: hundreds of charges and brought a multi million dollar civil
Speaker 1: suit against the good people of Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: And he's right.
Speaker 1: The Muni Court judges on Moss dismissed this stuff.
Speaker 2: I don't know why.
Speaker 4: Here's what I will say to you. I'm thinking in
Speaker 4: my mind that everybody going home and saying, hey, we're
Speaker 4: just going to walk away from some of this stuff
Speaker 4: was enough. I wasn't that. Now You've got the lawyers
Speaker 4: who are now saying, you know, now what's going to
Speaker 4: happen is we're going to sue you civilly, right, and
Speaker 4: so now they're taking it. So the next time this happens, right,
Speaker 4: everybody's going to have to rethink how they handle it,
Speaker 4: including myself. Everybody's going to have to sit back and
Speaker 4: go oh, there are lawyers out there that are that
Speaker 4: aggressive that now will sue us, even though we're saying, hey,
Speaker 4: everybody go back to their corners. We're gonna play knights
Speaker 4: in the sandbox and try to move on because we
Speaker 4: don't want more chaos in our communities than in our city.
Speaker 4: So here's my bottom line. The only thing that has
Speaker 4: happened today is taxpayers are paying this bill no matter
Speaker 4: where you live. My mom's property taxes you know who,
Speaker 4: she's a widow, are going higher. My property taxes on
Speaker 4: my office, on my personal property in the city are
Speaker 4: going higher. And all they're doing is forcing more and
Speaker 4: more people to make the decision to move further in
Speaker 4: the county, take their businesses in the county so they
Speaker 4: don't have to pay that tax.
Speaker 6: Yep, that's all they're doing.
Speaker 4: You know, how is it cheaper per mileage for Indian
Speaker 4: Hill than it is in the city of Cincinnati. We're
Speaker 4: gonna have to start grappling with it's just getting too
Speaker 4: expensive for people to function in our city. Mike Allen,
Speaker 4: that's where we are. And then when you layer on
Speaker 4: things like okay, now they're layering on the operation of
Speaker 4: the streetcar or expanding the streetcar or the stadium deal.
Speaker 4: It's not like this is a one off. It's like
Speaker 4: there are a lot of things coming at us right,
Speaker 4: and people are just saying, I can't afford it. I
Speaker 4: cannot afford to live in the city of Cincinnati. And
Speaker 4: the last thing I'll say as a financial planner, my
Speaker 4: clients are moving to Florida, and they're moving to Texas
Speaker 4: for a reason. Right. They're not just leaving the county, right,
Speaker 4: They're moving completely out of the state, saying they're trying
Speaker 4: to find places where taxes are reasonable, or they say
Speaker 4: to me, at least I have a outline of what
Speaker 4: the rules are and they're consistent.
Speaker 2: Yep. And you can tell you can see that happening.
Speaker 2: I mean, uh. And it's a damn shame too, because
Speaker 2: this city, I think has a lot to offer.
Speaker 1: I do have one more question on this, Christopher. Okay,
Speaker 1: so this is what did you say. I know it
Speaker 1: is eight point one, but it's closer to ten million.
Speaker 1: The fire chief didn't the fire chief hit them up
Speaker 1: hard on a settlement. I thought I read that, and
Speaker 1: then you got yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 4: I don't I don't think. I don't think Chief Washington
Speaker 4: has settled. I anticipate he's won the lawsuit. They have
Speaker 4: now appealed it and the city lost and the judge
Speaker 4: has said, you guys need to settle this case. You know,
Speaker 4: I'm thinking three to five million dollars for the fire
Speaker 4: chief Chief Washington, and I also think that Fiji Chief
Speaker 4: Fiji is also going to get a significant settlements. There's
Speaker 4: a fire chief, Chief Sherman who a lot of people
Speaker 4: don't know, but know they fired him right after the
Speaker 4: election saying that he was helping Chief Washington by sending
Speaker 4: emails in his case and they fired him. I assume
Speaker 4: he's also going to sue and over the next couple
Speaker 4: of years he's gonna win too.
Speaker 6: This is just a.
Speaker 4: Debacle, But elections have consequences. Right our communities like bond Hill,
Speaker 4: like Evingston, like Hyde Park, like Mount lookout right as examples,
Speaker 4: even though they were doing these developments, said these are
Speaker 4: the people that they want in charge, and I respect
Speaker 4: their decision. Right am not here complaining about the decision.
Speaker 4: They didn't select me, they didn't select a Liz Keating,
Speaker 4: they didn't select Gooden as an example, they didn't select
Speaker 4: Lakita Cole I respect what the voters have said, and
Speaker 4: I stand down. But elections have consequences. If I were
Speaker 4: the mayor, I never would have settled this case. We
Speaker 4: would have had to go to trial, and I would
Speaker 4: have put on the best litigation that we could because
Speaker 4: the implications on our ability to quill future yet riot
Speaker 4: in our downtown are going to be impaired. That is
Speaker 4: a serious problem, and it undermines our police department, in
Speaker 4: our in our city.
Speaker 2: It does. Let me move on here. I've been waiting
Speaker 2: to ask you this. I want to get your reaction
Speaker 2: to what happened, what is happening because it's an ongoing
Speaker 2: story in Minnesota with the unbelievable at least one billion
Speaker 2: dollars graft and fraud that's going on out there. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, you were on city council.
Speaker 1: You know governments, you know how they spend money, and
Speaker 1: you know the oversight or lack of saying.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on that? Christopher? I can't believe
Speaker 2: somebody didn't catch that, But anyway, what do you think?
Speaker 4: Well, clearly, you know this racial environment that we're living
Speaker 4: in has unfortunately people not looking close. I think that
Speaker 4: was a part of the problem. Yeah, the Somali community,
Speaker 4: and this is the result of it. I just look
Speaker 4: at my own business, you know, as a financial planner,
Speaker 4: I'm annually audited. I'm deeply audited every three years. They
Speaker 4: look through my financial records for a reason, right, because
Speaker 4: they don't want a financial planner or a stockbroker impaired,
Speaker 4: because it raises the risk that I might go into
Speaker 4: a client's account number one, or a client might be
Speaker 4: trying to loan me money, or I might be involved
Speaker 4: in something that's horrible. So I'm saying, not only are
Speaker 4: we talking about what's happening in this case, we're talking
Speaker 4: about what's happening at city Hall with the mayor having
Speaker 4: his cars repot. It's all the same. It's corruption. And
Speaker 4: what we're going to find is, remember every year, Mike Allen,
Speaker 4: you haven't been an elected official. We have to file
Speaker 4: an ethics report. We have to disclose what our debts are.
Speaker 4: Have we filed bankruptcy? You know, what are our assets?
Speaker 4: Where are we investing our money. Somebody's going to go
Speaker 4: back and look and see what Mayor pure Val has
Speaker 4: been putting down on those financial records to the state,
Speaker 4: because it's possible that he was not disclosing that he
Speaker 4: was having financial problems. The reason this is such a
Speaker 4: big deal to me is a politician who is financially impaired.
Speaker 4: It raises the probability of bribery. It raises the probability
Speaker 4: on the margin that someone can influence you in a
Speaker 4: different way because you need that job or you need
Speaker 4: those resources. So that's why we fill out those financial
Speaker 4: reports so everybody can understand where we're having conflicts of interest.
Speaker 4: This is a conflict of interest for the mayor. It's
Speaker 4: a conflict of interest for the governor that we're talking
Speaker 4: about with the Somali situation, and it breeds corruption because
Speaker 4: you have a government that was really just turning their
Speaker 4: heads during COVID, handing out millions and millions, and it
Speaker 4: was a billion dollars that we absolutely lost track of
Speaker 4: at the end of the day. Somebody should go to jail.
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter who they are. This should be nonpartisan.
Speaker 4: Mike Allen, Oh, it has nothing to do with Democrat
Speaker 4: or Republican, whoever is involved with this situation. Everybody should
Speaker 4: be held account and everybody should go to jail. Period.
Speaker 4: If anything less happens, our country is on fire. Wrong
Speaker 4: with us.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, a billion dollars And again, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you saw it, Christopher that one of
Speaker 1: the whistleblowers said that he thought it could get up
Speaker 1: to eight billion under the nose of the governor and
Speaker 1: the attorney general of the state of Minnesota.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been around a while.
Speaker 1: It clearly just boggles my mind just the dimensions of it.
Speaker 4: Think about this was a guy that was literally one
Speaker 4: step from the White House. That's right, Governor right, he
Speaker 4: was running for vice president of the United States of America,
Speaker 4: and he's involved right now in the biggest fraud case
Speaker 4: in the history of our country as it relates to
Speaker 4: dollars coming from the government through COVID going directly to
Speaker 4: a state. This is an amazing thing. And most likely
Speaker 4: people knew about this and did not disclose it right
Speaker 4: during the election. Meaning what is happening with our current
Speaker 4: mayor with the disclosure of multiple cars being repolled, Meaning
Speaker 4: he's really not being truthful. Mike Allen, most likely, as
Speaker 4: a financial planner, when you're having this kind of problem,
Speaker 4: you have cash flow issues. This is most likely impacting
Speaker 4: his home, is most likely impacting credit card debt is
Speaker 4: most likely impacting his cars and any other investment he has.
Speaker 4: Our mayor is financially impaired, and there should be a
Speaker 4: full investigation into it. What I'm saying here is that
Speaker 4: most likely you had a government that covered up the
Speaker 4: fact that the vice president of the guy running for
Speaker 4: vice president was having this kind of issue in a state.
Speaker 4: I believe the same thing with local a year we
Speaker 4: just came out of an election. Clearly they found that
Speaker 4: Corey Bowman, they put this stupid story in the paper
Speaker 4: that he hadn't paid some taxes that he actually had paid.
Speaker 4: This is a situation where the mayor's car was repulled
Speaker 4: right in front of city Hall, meaning his car was
Speaker 4: taken at parked outside our government, the core of our city.
Speaker 4: And it didn't even come up during the campaign. Yeah,
Speaker 4: this is the laziness of the media, brother, Oh laziness.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: I mean not only on a state level, some not
Speaker 1: a lot on the local level. We only got about
Speaker 1: two more moneys. What I can't understand is Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1: Why would she have signed off on him if she
Speaker 1: and she had to know something about this when she
Speaker 1: had I know why she didn't pick Josh Shapiro because
Speaker 1: she'd honk off the anti Semitic base of her party.
Speaker 1: But I just don't understand. But there's so much about
Speaker 1: her I don't understand.
Speaker 4: I guess well answered the question right. First of all,
Speaker 4: it was ego, meaning Kamala Harris did not want to
Speaker 4: select somebody who she thought would be bigger than her.
Speaker 4: This is important. Her personality would not There's some people
Speaker 4: that can't have smart people around them, right, So part
Speaker 4: of it with it. Shapiro should have been the natural
Speaker 4: selection for her. He was the strongest candidate coming out
Speaker 4: of Pennsylvania, out of the miss Midwest, and ultimately she lost.
Speaker 4: It was she one of the reasons she lost that
Speaker 4: election because Governor Shapiro would have been doing a great
Speaker 4: job in Indiana, contucture in pa in Ohio. Right, but
Speaker 4: her anti Semitic behavior. I can't pick him because he's Jewish,
Speaker 4: because of what is happening between Israel and Hamas, I
Speaker 4: can't pick a Jewish person for my ticket. This is
Speaker 4: what the Democratic ticket was really wrestling with.
Speaker 6: So they did.
Speaker 4: And by the way, she was more competent, a much
Speaker 4: better speaker.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he has a.
Speaker 4: State that's on the ball. If he runs for president
Speaker 4: in the next three years, he's going to give the
Speaker 4: Republicans a run for their money coming out of coming
Speaker 4: out of Pennsylvania. But the reason she didn't do the
Speaker 4: selection is simple. It was her ego. She can't. She
Speaker 4: wants a weak person in the position she has that
Speaker 4: kind of anybody's had a boss that they feel like,
Speaker 4: you know, like they want you to tell them every
Speaker 4: second thing that's going on around you. Notice that how
Speaker 4: her employee don't like working for her. She's a very
Speaker 4: difficult person to work with. That is why she selected
Speaker 4: the guy she selected. She wanted somebody week that wouldn't
Speaker 4: outshine her.
Speaker 1: Yep, all right, my friend, we're out of time, but
Speaker 1: I really appreciate our chats and we will definitely do
Speaker 1: it again.
Speaker 4: And Mike Allen, people can follow me at votes Smitherman
Speaker 4: on social media on x It's a great way for
Speaker 4: people to get updates between now and the next time
Speaker 4: you invite me on on a Saturday.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, thank you, all right. Chris First Smithman still
Speaker 1: very very relevant on the local political scene here. And
Speaker 1: I don't know speaking for a lot of people, I know,
Speaker 1: I hope he gives it a shot again at some point.
Speaker 2: Hey, we got to take a break.
Speaker 1: But when we get back, we're going to talk to
Speaker 1: Steve Gooden about the legal issues surrounding this situation in
Speaker 1: Minnesota and some other legal issues as well. We'll get
Speaker 1: into the political stuff with him too, but mainly legal.
Speaker 1: We'll do that when we get back. Mike Allen, Saturday
Speaker 1: Midday seven, Honor WLW. Mike Allen, Saturday midday. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what we just can't seem to get rid of
Speaker 1: the Jeffrey Epstein issue. You might have seen it. A
Speaker 1: federal judge in Florida ordered to the release of grand
Speaker 1: jury transcripts, which is really unusual from the mid two
Speaker 1: thousands investigation into Epstein, and the Justice Department has, according
Speaker 1: to AI, till December nineteenth to do that. I saw
Speaker 1: one account said December seventeenth. Here to talk about that
Speaker 1: in many other things is attorney Steve Gooden. Steve is
Speaker 1: a partner at Porter Wright and he's got a lot
Speaker 1: of experience along these lines.
Speaker 2: Steve, thanks for calling in anytime. Mike, good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 1: You know you know you heard what I just said, Steve,
Speaker 1: and I think you would agree. Extremely unusual for a
Speaker 1: judge to order a release of grand jury testimony. Your
Speaker 1: thoughts on that as to why and what the effect.
Speaker 6: Will be, Well, you know, I mean long term, it's
Speaker 6: really hard to say what the effect will be. You know.
Speaker 6: We I think now the public knows generally what has
Speaker 6: been alleged. You know, I'll be very surprised if there
Speaker 6: are any real bombshells there. But you're absolutely right. I mean,
Speaker 6: as you know, you know from your day's prosecuting and
Speaker 6: prosecuting cases, the grand jury is supposed to be absolutely
Speaker 6: and totally Yeah, I mean, the idea is to you know,
Speaker 6: there are times times, I know, the joke is always
Speaker 6: among lawyers that a grand jury will and die to
Speaker 6: ham Sandwich, but I've seen it, and there are other
Speaker 6: times when you go in there, the grand jury has questions,
Speaker 6: the prosecutor develops doubts about the case, and you have
Speaker 6: to have secrecy at the grand jury level because you
Speaker 6: may decide and they may decide not to indict the individual.
Speaker 6: So you're trying to protect the reputations of people who
Speaker 6: are particularly potentially innocent, and you want the victims to
Speaker 6: be able to talk about what happened in a very
Speaker 6: safe place. So the idea that you know that judges
Speaker 6: very rarely unsealed the testimony grand jury if there is
Speaker 6: a jury trial, typically the judges will unseal small portions
Speaker 6: if a witness actually had talked to the grand jury
Speaker 6: is going to testify again at trial. But it's just
Speaker 6: one of those third rails in the American legal system
Speaker 6: when it comes to criminal law, you just don't do
Speaker 6: it without a great reason. But this just goes to
Speaker 6: show that when the public demands things and politics come
Speaker 6: into play, sometimes anymore, the rules go out the door.
Speaker 6: So I'm very curious as to why the judge's order
Speaker 6: really doesn't delve into it in any meaningful way. But
Speaker 6: the case is closed. I believe you know, the grand
Speaker 6: jury testimony that was there, much of it was never
Speaker 6: actually used in the ultimate case against mister Epstein. So
Speaker 6: what good this does? What the you know, what the
Speaker 6: overwriting public purpose of this is. I don't know. I'll
Speaker 6: be a little bit surprised if we don't see some
Speaker 6: fighting back from the Justice Department, but we'll see. But
Speaker 6: that you know, this is not again, not really a
Speaker 6: good day. I, like everyone else, would would like to
Speaker 6: know more about how this deal was cut. There's no
Speaker 6: question that Epstein got a sweetheart deal. Maybe the reason
Speaker 6: why he got a sweetheart deal can be found, or
Speaker 6: maybe there might be some something elucidating in those transcripts
Speaker 6: where we learned that either there were issues with the victims,
Speaker 6: or some of the victims didn't want to go forward,
Speaker 6: or their stories didn't match up, or whatever the case
Speaker 6: may be. It's all speculation at this point. But this
Speaker 6: is a very unusual and kind of strange day for
Speaker 6: our system.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if it puts Epstein behind us, I'm all
Speaker 1: for it. And you know what, from a political perspective,
Speaker 1: Steve Gooden, I mean, if there were anything that was
Speaker 1: that harmful to Trump, don't you think we would have
Speaker 1: known about it already.
Speaker 6: Look, I will be you know, like lover hate Donald Trump.
Speaker 6: I mean, there has never been anything credible that has
Speaker 6: come out that he knew about the details of this
Speaker 6: or well or at least participated. I mean, they're those
Speaker 6: photos which are terrible. It's clearly new and the clear
Speaker 6: it's clear that Trump ran in those social circles. But
Speaker 6: you know, Epstein had a way of insinuating himself with
Speaker 6: rich and powerful people. That's what he did. I mean,
Speaker 6: you know, he was clearly very close to folks like
Speaker 6: you know, Bill Gates. I think you know, his relationship
Speaker 6: with him, you know, it led to the demise of
Speaker 6: his marriage to Melinda Gates and the splitting of their
Speaker 6: huge fortune. I mean, he was very close to Bill
Speaker 6: Clinton famously had that picture of Bill Clinton wearing that
Speaker 6: Monica Almsky's blue dress and his entry way of his apartment.
Speaker 6: He was. He just ran in those circles. So I've
Speaker 6: never really seen anything lover hate Trump that really connected
Speaker 6: him to any criminal wrongdoing here. And if there's something,
Speaker 6: if he came, the likelihood of him coming up in
Speaker 6: these twenty seven year old grand jury transcripts, which I
Speaker 6: seemed to from what I understand, focused primarily on Epstein's
Speaker 6: activities in Florida and on his island nearby. You know,
Speaker 6: I think that's that's a stretch, and maybe, you know,
Speaker 6: maybe the Justice Department will be just to soon have
Speaker 6: them come out to kind of clear that up. But again,
Speaker 6: these are these folks, particularly some of these younger women
Speaker 6: who testified before that grand jury, did so with the
Speaker 6: promise that this was going to be secret, that it
Speaker 6: was not going to be made public and whatever stories
Speaker 6: they told, and I presume, we presume it's going to
Speaker 6: be mostly you know, young victims. He testified before the
Speaker 6: grand jury. You know they did so, you know, in
Speaker 6: this sense that that was a safe place and they
Speaker 6: could tell their stories. So I think it's kind of
Speaker 6: a terrible thing, all these years later for it to
Speaker 6: come out, unless you know, there's some you know, incredibly
Speaker 6: compelling reason that none of us know about.
Speaker 4: Here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, And I'm looking forward to just
Speaker 1: from a curiosity standpoint, what's in there. But I'm glad
Speaker 1: it's finally going away. Hey, let me switch gears out.
Speaker 1: And you're the perfect person to talk about this. You
Speaker 1: were on city council, you're an attorney. You know how
Speaker 1: things go. I wake up this morning two stories. Cincinnati
Speaker 1: reaches eight million dollar settlement after hundreds of protestss arrested
Speaker 1: during George Floyd protests. Were you surprised to see that, Steve,
Speaker 1: I don't think that happened on your watch on council,
Speaker 1: or maybe it did, did it?
Speaker 6: Oh? Well, god, no, no, no, you know I did
Speaker 6: live that. I was actually in the process of being
Speaker 6: appointed to council when the okay, when the protests were occurring.
Speaker 6: I was actually still living downtown and very much lived
Speaker 6: those protests, and let me tell you, they were not peaceful.
Speaker 6: That's one of the main reasons I moved from downtown.
Speaker 6: At the time. I was living downtown with my eight
Speaker 6: year old son down on Fourth Street because I had
Speaker 6: two offices here that I was helping manage and deal with.
Speaker 6: And I'll tell you it was. You know, the protests
Speaker 6: began peaceful, but when you hear glass breaking at three
Speaker 6: in the morning, I don't think that's peaceful. And when
Speaker 6: you see people destroying private property, it's not peaceful. And
Speaker 6: what happened here was I have to give some credit
Speaker 6: to former Mayor John Cranleigh. What he did was he
Speaker 6: imposed it. And this is the heart of the case.
Speaker 6: He imposed a curfew and said, look, you know you
Speaker 6: can't you can't be out at three in the morning.
Speaker 6: You can't be tearing up other people's property. That's not
Speaker 6: actual protests, that's just rioting and stupidity. And he the
Speaker 6: reason he put the curfew in place was and he
Speaker 6: gave the officers, this team that he sent down the
Speaker 6: right to arrest people for violating the curfew. So they
Speaker 6: went and literally rounded up about four hundred of the
Speaker 6: worst of these folks, and they didn't have a place
Speaker 6: for them at the Justice center, so they basically cordoned
Speaker 6: off and made kind of a pen basically and made
Speaker 6: them all stand around over the over the course of
Speaker 6: the night while they were processing them out. So the
Speaker 6: heart of the lawsuit that they spoke. Four hundred some
Speaker 6: people filed a class action lawsuit that the curfew was
Speaker 6: an unconstitutional restraint on their protest. I guess that they
Speaker 6: had a right to go throw rocks at three in
Speaker 6: the morning, which I think is silly. And then number two,
Speaker 6: the conditions at the jail were terrible too, So the
Speaker 6: county threw in about six and sixty five thousand dollars.
Speaker 6: The city is giving them an unconscionable and unbelievable eight
Speaker 6: million dollars just split amongst them all. Two million of
Speaker 6: course go to the lawyers. Yeah, which is sick, you know,
Speaker 6: so so and so on and and the and basically
Speaker 6: the city is forcing the police department to put new
Speaker 6: regulations in place about how to deal with protesters. But
Speaker 6: you know, at the end of the day, Columbus, Uh,
Speaker 6: it took them years to get over there George Floyd protests. Uh,
Speaker 6: because you know they I mean, I mean that their
Speaker 6: downtown was kind of decimated. Our city was not. In
Speaker 6: large part, I think the cause Cranley did stand up
Speaker 6: and had the backbone to oppose the curfew and not
Speaker 6: just impose it, but enforce it.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 6: And I think, you know, for the folks who actually
Speaker 6: live downtown, have businesses downtown, at offices downtown, I think
Speaker 6: they were all thankful that he did what he did,
Speaker 6: and this is just a political effort to rewrite history.
Speaker 6: It's disgusting. I would note that this settlement has clearly
Speaker 6: been negotiated months before, but they waited to go after
Speaker 6: the election to announce it. And you guys are gonna
Speaker 6: have to vote on it next week. I'll be very
Speaker 6: curious if anybody of the nine council members, all of
Speaker 6: whom were all but one of whom were re elected,
Speaker 6: if any of them have the guts to at least
Speaker 6: question this. This is a terrible thing. It sends a
Speaker 6: terrible message. You know, you absolutely have a right to
Speaker 6: protest in this country, but you don't have a right
Speaker 6: to go tear up people's private property. And the absurdity
Speaker 6: of the idea that you could go break a window
Speaker 6: in Cincinnati to address alleged policeman's conduct in Minneapolis. I mean,
Speaker 6: it just doesn't even It makes no logical sense whatsoever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know who the litigators are in the
Speaker 1: Solicitor's office anymore. Maybe they farmed this thing out, but
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe they were afraid for some reason
Speaker 1: to try the case. It defies all logic to me.
Speaker 1: And I think I hear you saying the same thing
Speaker 1: with respect to Mayor Cranley.
Speaker 2: I could not agree with you more.
Speaker 1: The enquire Of this morning just has a couple very
Speaker 1: brief quotes from him. This is Mayor Cranley speaking that
Speaker 1: curfew and our police department saved our city when other
Speaker 1: cities were burning. And then everything I saw was of
Speaker 1: the utmost professionalism and restraint, talking about the cops and
Speaker 1: their actions saved our city. I want the record to
Speaker 1: show they did a great job. So I'm glad the mayor,
Speaker 1: a former mayor, did that, because I don't know if
Speaker 1: you saw it. Ken Gobert, FOP President, he ain't happy
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: Don't blame him. I don't blame him.
Speaker 6: Well, he's decided himself and he should be because the
Speaker 6: law department has sold out the FOP here basically, they're
Speaker 6: basically a que The settlement buys the central argument that
Speaker 6: the police officers acted unprofessionally, and there is zero evidence
Speaker 6: that I have seen of that. In fact, I wish
Speaker 6: that they had stepped in earlier. I mean, we were
Speaker 6: three really tough nights down here with the so called protests.
Speaker 6: I mean the pro I looked there were legit protests
Speaker 6: of normal people walking around and who were upset about it.
Speaker 6: I get it, I understand it. I have a lot
Speaker 6: of questions about what happened to George Floyd myself as
Speaker 6: an attorney and a former prosecutor. I mean, there's clearly
Speaker 6: things there that weren't good in the way that was
Speaker 6: handled all the way around. But the protests that spilled
Speaker 6: over into the night time, that spilled over into vandalism
Speaker 6: and property destruction and things of that nature. Thank God
Speaker 6: they came in and stepped in, And if anything, they
Speaker 6: should have stepped in earlier, because again I was right
Speaker 6: down here at ground zero as it was occurring. And
Speaker 6: again remember this was during COVID, which is one of
Speaker 6: the great hypocrises of it all. When you know a
Speaker 6: lot of the same folks that were saying you couldn't
Speaker 6: come upin six feet of someone, But it's okay if
Speaker 6: it's about a political cause you care about. So it
Speaker 6: was a weird, weird time, and I think people need
Speaker 6: to remember that. And I don't think they're being fair here.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so at all in it.
Speaker 1: It just and you couple that with I know the
Speaker 1: fire chief is going to ring him up if who
Speaker 1: was fired, if he didn't do that already, and Chief Thiji,
Speaker 1: they're probably going to have to back a brinkstruck up
Speaker 1: the city hall. She still doesn't know why she got
Speaker 1: canned or suspendius.
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, the law department is not covering itself in
Speaker 6: glory these days. I mean. Look, I mean, if you
Speaker 6: look at any of the decisions in the case, former
Speaker 6: Chief Washington is winning his case. And I won't It
Speaker 6: would take me too long to get into the details
Speaker 6: of this year, but I think he is. I think
Speaker 6: he was railroaded. And my personal opinion from what I
Speaker 6: know about the case, and obviously I know him a bit,
Speaker 6: so I'm biased, but I think what occurred there was
Speaker 6: absolutely terrible. He just got on the wrong side of
Speaker 6: these folks in terms of office politics and my personal opinion,
Speaker 6: and they fired him and it's not going well for
Speaker 6: them in court. They're going to have to deal with him.
Speaker 6: And you're right, I mean, you know, chief chief, whether
Speaker 6: I going to watch you think about the job she
Speaker 6: ultimately did. You don't hang someone now publicly that way.
Speaker 6: And the idea that they're doing the investigation into why
Speaker 6: they're firing her after they put her on leave and
Speaker 6: essentially fire here. I mean, that's that's George orwell stuff.
Speaker 6: You know, it's like, well, we'll get around to the
Speaker 6: you're entitled to your due process, but first let's impose
Speaker 6: the sanction. Then we'll give you some process on the
Speaker 6: back end and hopefully we'll find something.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So, I mean, it's a terrible way to run a city.
Speaker 6: And you know, and it really again, it just demoralizes
Speaker 6: the rank and file officers and firefighters as they watch
Speaker 6: as shenanigans go on, and watch the people go through,
Speaker 6: you know, thirty to forty year careers reach the pinnacle
Speaker 6: of their of their profession and then just basically get
Speaker 6: treated like garbage in public. It's a terrible, terrible thing
Speaker 6: for the rank and file.
Speaker 2: It really is.
Speaker 1: And a part of this settlement apparently is they're going
Speaker 1: to receive more training on how to handle these situations.
Speaker 1: You know what, they already know how to handle these situations.
Speaker 1: I think they do an incredibly professional job. I was
Speaker 1: right in the middle of the Timid Thomas.
Speaker 2: Riots back in the early Yes, you're thousands, and they did.
Speaker 2: You know, they did a great job there.
Speaker 1: Sometimes if you're going to break up something, you know,
Speaker 1: you got to you gotta use some force. And you know,
Speaker 1: they talk about police reform, Steve and I'm rambling here.
Speaker 1: We got about a minute. The police aren't the ones
Speaker 1: that need to be reformed.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess that's just my us.
Speaker 6: No, not in this instance of you know, one thing
Speaker 6: I want to throw out through the people have conveniently
Speaker 6: forgotten that there was a police officer during the course
Speaker 6: of the George Floyd riots in Cincinnati, Ohio who was
Speaker 6: shot at and they got a bullet bounced off his helmet.
Speaker 6: That's a story that people forget. I mean it, abu.
Speaker 6: For the grace of God, that guy could have lost
Speaker 6: his life from one of these quote unquote peaceful protesters.
Speaker 6: Someone disturbed the firearm and he was struck by the
Speaker 6: firearm and thank god he had his keplar and bounced off.
Speaker 6: So I mean, I mean, these guys were out there
Speaker 6: at all hours trying to turn to put this down.
Speaker 6: No protester that I seen was seriously injured or you know,
Speaker 6: in the course of it. So they did a phenomenal job.
Speaker 6: And the idea of the law department told him out
Speaker 6: is sick of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, and I'm glad Cranley backed them up. Hey,
Speaker 1: we're out of time here, Steve. Always appreciate you coming on.
Speaker 6: Hey anytime, Mike, have a good Saturday, you too.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I tell you what, police reform, Police reform, police reform.
Speaker 1: They don't need reforming. I mean, is it good that
Speaker 1: you have training for police surprising? Heck, yeah, you can't
Speaker 1: have too much training.
Speaker 2: But enough of this. Oh we need they need to reform.
Speaker 2: That's just bull crap. And I think people are getting
Speaker 2: tired of it. I know the FOP president is, And
Speaker 2: by the way, I'm going to try to get him
Speaker 2: on for next Saturday. Hey, we got to take a break.
Speaker 4: Butt.
Speaker 1: When we get back, we're gonna talk to Janis Heisel
Speaker 1: she filed another story I think yesterday with the situation
Speaker 1: in Minnesota. And I'll just say it again, she was
Speaker 1: recognized by none other than the former Speaker of the House,
Speaker 1: Nuke Gangritch for her reporting.
Speaker 2: We'll talk to Janis when we get back.
Speaker 1: This radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen an hour three
Speaker 1: of Saturday midday.
Speaker 2: Well, i'll tell you what. The story out.
Speaker 1: In Minnesota just keeps on coming. And the reporter who
Speaker 1: was commended by none other than new Gingridge for her
Speaker 1: reporting on that, she's got a new story out.
Speaker 2: We're going to ask her about it.
Speaker 1: I'm talking, of course about Jameis Heisel of the Epoch Times. Jamis,
Speaker 1: how are you doing well?
Speaker 13: But cap dancer as fast as I can about Minnesota.
Speaker 1: I hear you, I hear you. You know, and you
Speaker 1: did follow that story. It looks like on Wednesday police. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm going to get to that later. Oversight Committee probes
Speaker 1: alleged cover up of massive Minnesota welfare fraud kind of
Speaker 1: updates the story. Can you kind of run down what's
Speaker 1: happened since we talked last?
Speaker 13: Yeah, So the House Oversight Committee, which is a fairly powerful,
Speaker 13: you know, very powerful committee of Congress has now notified
Speaker 13: both the governor and the Attorney General of Minnesota that
Speaker 13: they are demanding some records, a lot of records to
Speaker 13: be handed over by December seventeenth, to try to get
Speaker 13: to the bottom of how in the world was this
Speaker 13: allowed to go on with so much fraud happening.
Speaker 5: Right under their.
Speaker 13: Noses, and especially because according to the letter sent by
Speaker 13: the chair of that committee, James Comer, he's saying that
Speaker 13: there are credible reports from whistleblowers alleging that they tried
Speaker 13: to bring out the problems, just bring them to light,
Speaker 13: and there was actually, they say, a cover up of it.
Speaker 13: They were telling they were telling these people in Congress
Speaker 13: that you know and others that this has just been
Speaker 13: ridiculu was with the amount of information that has been
Speaker 13: held from the public. And also they're alleging that some
Speaker 13: things were destroyed. I don't know what those things are allegedly,
Speaker 13: but that those are some of the allegations that the
Speaker 13: Oversight Committee is trying to get to the bottom of. Now,
Speaker 13: what my story does not cover are some additional developments. Okay,
Speaker 13: so the Small Business Administration of the federal government has.
Speaker 14: Also launched its own investigation.
Speaker 13: And according to Kelly Lossler, who heads that department, they
Speaker 13: found a million dollars within two days of fraud related
Speaker 13: to pandemic relief through the Small Business Administration from Minnesota.
Speaker 14: And then in addition to that.
Speaker 13: The Medicaid I forget its exact title, but Mehmet Oz
Speaker 13: who ran for Senate but is now the head of
Speaker 13: the Medicaid Services for Department.
Speaker 14: I don't remember the exact name without looking, but he is.
Speaker 13: Also he's also put Governor Tim Walt on notice saying, look,
Speaker 13: here are we are clamping down on restrictions of Medicaid
Speaker 13: money coming to Minnesota. He commended the governor for putting
Speaker 13: a halt on fourteen what they call at risk programs,
Speaker 13: which I have mentioned in a previous story. But he's
Speaker 13: basically saying, look, if if we're not satisfied with what's
Speaker 13: going on there, and we want you to check in
Speaker 13: with us more frequently, we're going to be cutting off
Speaker 13: Medicaid money to state.
Speaker 14: So it's coming.
Speaker 13: At Minnesota from multiple multiple fronts, and I am actually
Speaker 13: going there to do some on the ground reporting.
Speaker 4: I've been speaking on.
Speaker 13: The phone with a lot of people, but you know,
Speaker 13: there's nothing like being there, and so I'm going to
Speaker 13: be there I don't know how many days on a
Speaker 13: reporting trip to meet with some lawmakers, with some regular folks,
Speaker 13: attend a city council meeting with that's expected to be
Speaker 13: packed with immigrant advocates who are now trying to get
Speaker 13: even more protections under that state's sanctuary sanctuary laws. And
Speaker 13: so there's just a lot going on right now and
Speaker 13: the massive scale of this. You mentioned Newt Greenridge a
Speaker 13: moment ago. He actually did a column that I think
Speaker 13: was just released yesterday saying that he believes this could
Speaker 13: turn out to be the largest fraud case in the
Speaker 13: United States ever.
Speaker 1: You know what I don't know how it doesn't, janis
Speaker 1: if what the whistleblowers are saying is even close to true.
Speaker 1: I thought I heard one yesterday yesterday say he thought
Speaker 1: it would go all the way up to six or
Speaker 1: eight billion dollars. It has to be, and it goes
Speaker 1: on underneath the nose of.
Speaker 2: These elected officials, especially the governor.
Speaker 1: It's just unreal. You know, one of your articles, janis
Speaker 1: you're reporting. I thought I read that some notice of
Speaker 1: this reached some responsible person as early as two thousand
Speaker 1: and nine or twenty and sixteen, Am I accurately reporting that.
Speaker 13: Yes, that's correct.
Speaker 14: But one thing we need to keep in mind here.
Speaker 13: Is it's not just one.
Speaker 14: Type of fraud, right.
Speaker 13: There are multiple schemes involved here. And the one that
Speaker 13: I think you're referring to that kind of raised alarm
Speaker 13: bells among the employees of the Department of Human Services
Speaker 13: there in Minnesota the welfare office was a childcare program
Speaker 13: where allegedly these people were claiming to provide childcare for
Speaker 13: children who didn't exist, and so there were a lot.
Speaker 2: Of rats that time.
Speaker 13: Yeah, and all of that got kind of clamped down
Speaker 13: because a lot of people cried racism.
Speaker 2: And there was even at least one lawsuit filed.
Speaker 13: And some courts have actually stepped in here. And in
Speaker 13: the defense of himself, Keith Ellison did give an interview.
Speaker 14: He's the ePIE in general for Minnesota.
Speaker 13: He said, look, at the state level, we've actually prosecuted
Speaker 13: several hundred people for medicaid fraud, and so in his view,
Speaker 13: they're doing quite a bit to try to fight the fraud.
Speaker 13: But that's not the view of the whistleblowers from what
Speaker 13: I've been hearing. Yeah, I haven't spoken to any of them.
Speaker 2: Yet.
Speaker 13: But I have talked to whistleblower, to the lawmakers, a
Speaker 13: couple of lawmakers who have had conversations with those people,
Speaker 13: and naturally they're afraid to speak to you know, just
Speaker 13: about anybody because they don't want to lose their jobs.
Speaker 13: But they're still trying to do the right thing and
Speaker 13: come forward.
Speaker 2: Well, and you're absolutely right about Keith Ellison. He is
Speaker 2: the attorney general and it has been for a while
Speaker 2: of that state. At what sticks in my crawl, janis
Speaker 2: is it seems like, at least in the early stage
Speaker 2: of this thing, he's kind of getting a pass. He's
Speaker 2: quoted in one of your stories. I'm telling you as
Speaker 2: an attorney general. Yeah, fraud happens, kind of offhanded remark.
Speaker 2: Then he says we should prosecute it. Yeah, hold people
Speaker 2: accountable for their individual conduct, not for their ethnicity. And
Speaker 2: we're doing that.
Speaker 1: It just I guess it seems like that is kind
Speaker 1: of the default thing when somebody thinks they're in a
Speaker 1: jam about this is Hey, wait a minute, you know
Speaker 1: this is all racially motivated?
Speaker 2: Is that what your eye? Jadra? A little bit? But
Speaker 2: is that kind of what you're finding?
Speaker 13: Well, I am hearing that a lot of the initial
Speaker 13: reports and even later reports were kind of being shut
Speaker 13: down because of fears of being labeled racist or things
Speaker 13: like that.
Speaker 14: So that's kind of.
Speaker 13: There are several other theories out there about what could
Speaker 13: really be fueling this, but that's probably the most prominent
Speaker 13: one that I've been hearing.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, when all else fails, trot that
Speaker 1: one out. Hey, you also did a story this week
Speaker 1: police will not cooperate with ICE agents, talking of course
Speaker 1: about Minneapolis police. That comes from the Minneapolis mayor. Reading
Speaker 1: this thing, it just makes me angry, it really does.
Speaker 1: But what's the deal with that? If you could just
Speaker 1: break it down for us, Well, you.
Speaker 13: Know, the city of Minneapolis is one of the sanctuary
Speaker 13: cities that say that, you know, we won't coperate because
Speaker 13: we are trying to protect the illegal immigrants field that
Speaker 13: you know a lot of these people just start here
Speaker 13: for speaking of better life, and we don't support the
Speaker 13: federal government's crackdown on this. And actually it's one of
Speaker 13: a number of states and cities that are state cities
Speaker 13: and counties that the Trump administration is suing in court
Speaker 13: over the sanctuary policies. So we'll see how that shakes out.
Speaker 13: But that's that's in essence, what's going on here is
Speaker 13: they're kind of reiterating and doubling down on that is
Speaker 13: to you know, keep a separation, so to speak. And
Speaker 13: as a matter of fact, that's going to be a
Speaker 13: topic at a city council meeting coming up on Tuesday.
Speaker 14: That I am planning to attend.
Speaker 13: Yeah, where there the immigrant advocates are asking for even
Speaker 13: more protections. They have a stronger ordinance in regard to
Speaker 13: the sanctuary status. So that's something that I'm looking into
Speaker 13: as well. On top of that, the mayor has also
Speaker 13: issued what he says as an executive He called it
Speaker 13: an executive order that they that no one is allowed
Speaker 13: from the federal government to use city property to do
Speaker 13: any immigration operations. Which I asked a legislator about that yesterday,
Speaker 13: whether that was enforceable and like how what that would
Speaker 13: look like? And I sent sought some comments from the
Speaker 13: you know, US Department of Homeland Security on this.
Speaker 14: I haven't heard back yet, but.
Speaker 13: The lawmaker I so to characterize that as posturing, and
Speaker 13: he said that he didn't think there was any way
Speaker 13: to really enforce it, Like what are you going to do?
Speaker 13: Have local police actually arrest the ICE Asians, So that
Speaker 13: was his question. Yeah, he's not a lawyer, but it's interesting.
Speaker 13: The mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Frye, is an attorney. So
Speaker 13: just throwing this back.
Speaker 14: At you, Michael, Yeah, any what do you think.
Speaker 13: Do you think that that would be an enforceable situation
Speaker 13: with an executive order saying these federal agents.
Speaker 14: Can't use any city owned.
Speaker 13: Properties to conduct their immigration enforcements.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what, Janis.
Speaker 1: You must be reading my mind, because that's what the
Speaker 1: next thing I wanted to talk about a news conference
Speaker 1: many and this is your reporting. Minneapolis Police Chief Brian
Speaker 1: O'Hara and the mayor emphasize support for law abiding Somali's
Speaker 1: and other immigrants who hold jobs and run businesses. People
Speaker 1: who are fearful of ICE action should inform themselves about
Speaker 1: their rights, the official said O'Hara. This, janis, I never
Speaker 1: thought i'd see this. Chief O'Hara also said that his
Speaker 1: officers quote absolutely have a duty to intervene close quote
Speaker 1: if people's rights are being violated. So you know, you
Speaker 1: think in your mind's eye you kind of play that out.
Speaker 1: I mean, cop on cop, that's what we've devolved to
Speaker 1: and it's sad and an answer to you question, I
Speaker 1: don't think it would be upheld, but who knows. But
Speaker 1: I mean, is that how you're reading this? He's talking
Speaker 1: about cop on cop.
Speaker 13: Well, it does seem that way. I wasn't at that
Speaker 13: news conference and didn't have an opportunity therefore to ask
Speaker 13: a follow up question. But it's something that I would
Speaker 13: like to clarify a little bit more. But I quoted
Speaker 13: what he said, and it's just been again, one thing
Speaker 13: after another. It's really hard to kind.
Speaker 14: Of keep up with.
Speaker 13: And just we're just at the stage where we're still
Speaker 13: trying to figure out the scale of this. Yeah, let
Speaker 13: alone the causes of it.
Speaker 1: Yep, it's just and I'm telling you you know more
Speaker 1: than me about it. Something tells me this story is
Speaker 1: going to be around for a while, don't you think?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 13: And at the same time, the state of Minnesota has
Speaker 13: just come up with its budget for next year three
Speaker 13: billion with a bee in the hole whoa, And people
Speaker 13: are really Minnesotans are just a lot of them are
Speaker 13: besides themselves overall of this from.
Speaker 1: What I've been hearing and reading, Really, I mean, that's
Speaker 1: a good point. So it seems to you in the
Speaker 1: early stages of this thing that ordinary citizens are pretty
Speaker 1: fired up about this.
Speaker 13: I do think that ordinary citizens kind of knew about
Speaker 13: some of it, but it kind of fell off the radar.
Speaker 13: The one expert I interviewed who has been following this
Speaker 13: for four years. There's kind of like this big splash
Speaker 13: of publicity when there were two hundred federal Asians swooped
Speaker 13: in in early twenty twenty two from one of the scandals.
Speaker 13: Then there was like a nine month gap before anybody
Speaker 13: was charged, and so the story didn't do.
Speaker 14: What we in the business call have legs, meaning, you know.
Speaker 13: Just the one story, it's not going to stay in
Speaker 13: the news cycle. It's not going to stay in even
Speaker 13: the public's mind. People move on to other things. So
Speaker 13: you know, unless you have several stories one after another
Speaker 13: with developments, it's just not going to have legs. But boy,
Speaker 13: this thing has a lot of legs. And I want
Speaker 13: to hear I hear this Zasy top guys singing right now,
Speaker 13: she's got a less there you go. So it's been
Speaker 13: really just just I've been writing about this. I think
Speaker 13: I've done like ten stories in the last few days.
Speaker 13: On Minneapolis. In Minnesota, it's been.
Speaker 2: Just a lot.
Speaker 13: And again, some of it I haven't even had a
Speaker 13: chance to really delve into, like the small business administration,
Speaker 13: like the doctor Oz medicaid aspect of this, and so
Speaker 13: it just continues. I have really really a lot on
Speaker 13: my plate on in Minnesota.
Speaker 2: It sure seems like it.
Speaker 1: One final question, how is the city of Minneapolis? Do
Speaker 1: you like it a good city in spite of all
Speaker 1: this stuff or not? Because something tells me you're going
Speaker 1: to be spending some time there.
Speaker 13: I was kind of jake with my husband that I
Speaker 13: kind of need to run an apartment or something. But
Speaker 13: you know, Minnesota, the city of Minneapolis is really has
Speaker 13: a lot of very pretty features to it.
Speaker 11: Lots of lakes.
Speaker 14: In fact, I think they call the state, you know,
Speaker 14: the State of ten thousand Lakes or something like that.
Speaker 13: There's lakes and things everywhere, a lot of bike trails
Speaker 13: things like that. But there, I went through some of
Speaker 13: the parts too that are it's so nice and one
Speaker 13: of the biggest problems in the downtown there's a very
Speaker 13: high vacan see rate in the office towers, and some
Speaker 13: of that is related to, you know, people working from
Speaker 13: home still you know, they got used to it during
Speaker 13: the pandemic and.
Speaker 14: They're still doing it.
Speaker 13: But the other thing is this concern about crime, or
Speaker 13: at least even the perception of crime. After the George
Speaker 13: Floyd and defund the police calls there, when you have
Speaker 13: people who don't feel safe, they're not going to go
Speaker 13: into some of the Metro areas, and so there is
Speaker 13: a lot of concern about what is going to happen
Speaker 13: there with.
Speaker 14: These vacancy rates.
Speaker 13: And then it shifts the tax burden to the residential
Speaker 13: property owners. So there's a lot of moving parts to
Speaker 13: all of this, and it's really affecting ordinary people.
Speaker 14: And I'm just on the edge of really.
Speaker 13: Looking into how ordinary people are really being affected.
Speaker 14: By all of this. And it goes to show people go,
Speaker 14: I don't care.
Speaker 13: About politics, Well you need to because it affects you,
Speaker 13: whether you realize.
Speaker 3: It or not.
Speaker 1: If you know what, if a citizen is not paying
Speaker 1: attention to this story, I mean they don't have any
Speaker 1: right to complain about anything with respect to elections. That's
Speaker 1: always amazed me. Hey, we're out of time. Unfortunately, I
Speaker 1: really appreciate your coverage on this thing. Janis more importantly,
Speaker 1: your coverage that you're sharing with us. I get how
Speaker 1: lucky we are to have that, and thank you.
Speaker 14: Oh I'm fortunate to share it.
Speaker 13: I'm just glad that to have that opportunity and a
Speaker 13: great rapport with you, Mike, and wishing everybody a great
Speaker 13: holiday season. I'm hoping I will still be on maybe
Speaker 13: one more time before chrisas easily.
Speaker 2: Can I just count on it?
Speaker 14: Thank you so much, take care of it.
Speaker 1: Okay, thanks Janis. I'll tell you what. She's all over it.
Speaker 1: And the reporting has been stellar and there are, like
Speaker 1: she said, so many legs to this thing. We're gonna
Speaker 1: be talking about this, I think for a long time
Speaker 1: to come. And again the whole damn thing screams out
Speaker 1: for that word accountability. Somebody's got to be held accountable
Speaker 1: for this. Hey, we got to take a break. But
Speaker 1: when we get back open lines seven four, nine, seven, one,
Speaker 1: eight hundred, the big one are the numbers. We can
Speaker 1: talk about anything you want, So give us a call
Speaker 1: or you have to listen to me. Mike Allen, Saturday midday.
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Speaker 1: Minutes of same gonna get to the calls here in
Speaker 1: just a second. I did want to make an announcement.
Speaker 1: Peter Bronson a frequent guest on this show, and he's
Speaker 1: going to be again. I wanted to get him on
Speaker 1: today but ran out of space. He'll be on next week.
Speaker 1: He's out with a new book. It's called Magical History Tour,
Speaker 1: and it's a little bit different book than Peter usually does.
Speaker 1: Five shorts stories, ten places to visit in Cincinnati if
Speaker 1: you're into Cincinnati history. We're going to have him on
Speaker 1: next week to talk about it. I can't wait. I
Speaker 1: have literally written or read every book that he's done.
Speaker 1: Excellent author. I'm about a third of the way through
Speaker 1: on this one. So next week, Peter Bronson. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get to the phones, starting out with our friend
Speaker 1: Bobby Jay.
Speaker 3: Mike, thanks for taking my call. Have a great day today,
Speaker 3: and I'll make it quick. I got a couple of
Speaker 3: things i'd like to make comparisons on. If I'm may
Speaker 3: Well and I want to do this one thing. I
Speaker 3: want to be objective. I want to take away the
Speaker 3: ethnic aspect out of it. Okay, take away that up
Speaker 3: in Minnesota, take it away in Cincinnati. Okay, Okay, they
Speaker 3: are all both controlled by the democratic machine. Yeah, democratic
Speaker 3: machine that we knew in the past. It's it's full
Speaker 3: of nothing but progressive anarchist right now. So knowing that
Speaker 3: you have to think of that way, and if you
Speaker 3: take away the ethnic has spected of it, you have
Speaker 3: over seers, which is the councils. They're all controlled by
Speaker 3: Democrat mayors. They're all controlled by Democrat councils. They're overseers.
Speaker 3: People don't like to use that word because it brings
Speaker 3: up thing that has to do with ethnic persuasion right
Speaker 3: back in the eighteen fifties and everything. It's no different
Speaker 3: way it is now. Well, you control the cities just
Speaker 3: like they would a twenty first century plantation.
Speaker 2: Well, you're absolutely right about that, I mean, and it
Speaker 2: seems to me every time there's a problem, racial or whatever,
Speaker 2: it's a Democrat mayor. And you know what, that is
Speaker 2: a good comparison or a good thing to an example
Speaker 2: to make because it's sure looking that way to me.
Speaker 3: It's hard to say that because people don't want to
Speaker 3: go ahead and just be honest with themselves. It's no
Speaker 3: different this eight million dollars.
Speaker 6: Dogm that they're wanting to do for four hundred. P Wow.
Speaker 6: Figure it out.
Speaker 3: The county is only go to pay sixty eight thousand
Speaker 3: out of eight million. Yep, I mean out of four
Speaker 3: hundred people in the class action lawsuit. And go ahead
Speaker 3: and do you at eight million. Pretty nice little day,
Speaker 3: wasn't it.
Speaker 1: Sure is in my understanding why the county's portion of
Speaker 1: it is so much lower than the cities'. It just
Speaker 1: had something to do with the jail, which you know,
Speaker 1: it's not a nice place as jails go. It's okay,
Speaker 1: but that's apparently what they're saying with the county.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I got one more thing, and I'll get was there
Speaker 3: any type of charges and the federal courts for civil
Speaker 3: rights violations?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 2: No, no, there was not.
Speaker 6: They just none.
Speaker 3: So these people in the county just I guess they
Speaker 3: just take it upon themselves to say there were civil
Speaker 3: rights violations. There were now federal charges on anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess these did their job through negotiations that
Speaker 2: kind of thing. But I don't know, it's just it load.
Speaker 1: And you know, I had Christopher Smithman on earlier and
Speaker 1: he said, hey, you know, and again I don't know
Speaker 1: all the facts. Why wouldn't the city try the case
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe get a verdict that they're not liable.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but the way the city is throwing
Speaker 1: money away these days is just incredible.
Speaker 3: Well, thanks for taking my time, my friend, and wish
Speaker 3: you well and all the listeners.
Speaker 2: All right, thanks Bobby, Jay, appreciate it.
Speaker 6: Thank you, sir.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a nice chunk of change, I mean for
Speaker 2: going to a peaceful demonstration.
Speaker 1: Hey, let's talk to Jeff in Xenia. Hey, good morning, Jeff, good.
Speaker 6: Morning, my great show.
Speaker 15: Hey, I just wanted to say also too, I lived
Speaker 15: up in Maine for about ten years and they had
Speaker 15: a huge Somali population. Really oh yeah, I mean at
Speaker 15: the time it was probably one of the largest in
Speaker 15: the United States before Minnesota sorted wanting it en up
Speaker 15: importing a lot. And if you got to yeah, well,
Speaker 15: if you've got to contact with Janice, the girl that
Speaker 15: we had all from epic times, you might want to
Speaker 15: mention that to her at some point because uh.
Speaker 2: You never know.
Speaker 15: Yeah, well, I mean you don't hear a lot about
Speaker 15: Maine because it's so far out of the way up
Speaker 15: there and it's such a small population. But you know,
Speaker 15: news does travel fast. From money's involved.
Speaker 2: Well, sure it does.
Speaker 1: And the community where you're talking about, are they all
Speaker 1: abiding for the most part? Uh, that kind of thing,
Speaker 1: because I never I never heard anything about it.
Speaker 15: Well they were, But when I was up there, I
Speaker 15: just found it really odd that you'd take people out
Speaker 15: of Sub Saharan Africa and bring them up to, you know,
Speaker 15: a fairly cold area because we get anywhere from two
Speaker 15: to six feet of snow up there. And uh, it
Speaker 15: was I mean they had taken over. I mean they
Speaker 15: they had a lot of businesses there everything, and I'm
Speaker 15: not sure what the numbers were, but said when I
Speaker 15: was up and I was from twenty six to sixteen
Speaker 15: at the time, it was quite a large population up there,
Speaker 15: and they had some other funny business going on to
Speaker 15: that I could talk to you off the air or
Speaker 15: get a hold of you, because there were some things
Speaker 15: going on up there that basically just got overlooked because
Speaker 15: it's just not a it's a fairly closed.
Speaker 6: Society up there.
Speaker 15: They don't like a lot of outsiders as because I
Speaker 15: was always called I was from away. I was never
Speaker 15: considered a maner. I was always from away, okay, And
Speaker 15: it's just.
Speaker 6: The way things work.
Speaker 15: Up there, but it might be something she might if
Speaker 15: I mean, not that she needs a little more work
Speaker 15: to do, but it might be something she puts on
Speaker 15: her radar at some point, because you never know.
Speaker 1: I will definitely definitely tell her that. And I appreciate
Speaker 1: you filling us in.
Speaker 2: Jeff, Hey, have a great day, Mike.
Speaker 1: Okay, you too, Thank you. All right, let's go to Fred. Hey, Fred,
Speaker 1: Hey morning, thanks for good morning. Good morning.
Speaker 6: Hey. I appreciate you taking my call. Great show is
Speaker 6: always you have.
Speaker 16: Fantastic people on and you really hit the important things.
Speaker 6: And the only thing to me.
Speaker 16: That makes it all make sense is that this is
Speaker 16: just another tentacle of an organized crime organization that is
Speaker 16: simply looking for every different way.
Speaker 6: It can to skim money.
Speaker 16: The whole sexcapades and everything else going on with that
Speaker 16: is simply to keep people in line and to keep
Speaker 16: them interested. But everything goes back to money in Minnesota,
Speaker 16: in Cincinnati and everything behind the scenes. They're simply trying
Speaker 16: to find a new way to skim every moment of it.
Speaker 16: And the only way it makes sense is that that's
Speaker 16: a conspiracy to further these things, and the other rest
Speaker 16: of it is simply to keep you look in other places.
Speaker 16: Oh it's racial. Oh it's this, Oh it's that, It isn't.
Speaker 16: The Only thing it is is money. How do we
Speaker 16: take it? How do we get more power? How do
Speaker 16: we take more money?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 1: You know what I think, is this thing goes on,
Speaker 1: You're probably right they'll find some kind of organized crime
Speaker 1: aspect to it. Maybe not their traditional mafia, I doubt that,
Speaker 1: but this thing screams out to be in federal court,
Speaker 1: not state court, which I guess some of them were
Speaker 1: initially put there. I hope, and I think at some
Speaker 1: point it'll end up in federal court.
Speaker 16: Well, look at the Cincinnati thing with this payoff that
Speaker 16: they're making right now. Goodness, well that makes a whole
Speaker 16: lot of sense, though when you make it a national
Speaker 16: situation with the elections coming up this coming year, and
Speaker 16: that they need these people back on the street causing trouble.
Speaker 6: So this is a.
Speaker 16: Perfect way to pay them off. You got four hundred
Speaker 16: experienced rioters that are now going to have pockets full
Speaker 16: of money, and when they're called to come out in
Speaker 16: the summer and start causing trouble again, they're going to
Speaker 16: do it willingly, thinking they're going to get paid off again.
Speaker 2: Well, they got job experience at that point. Right.
Speaker 1: I've read a number of things where not all of them,
Speaker 1: but a great number of these protesters are being paid
Speaker 1: by someone.
Speaker 16: Oh there's no question about it, and I know that
Speaker 16: for a fact. Well, but they are most certainly getting
Speaker 16: paid off. And that's what the whole thing is. It's
Speaker 16: it isn't the traditional mafia, you know, it is the
Speaker 16: elusive deep state. And the more you produce for that,
Speaker 16: the more you're the more you're capo's and everybody else
Speaker 16: above you will will appreciate you being a good earner.
Speaker 16: It's the same thing as the mafia, but it's just
Speaker 16: you know, it's controlled nationally, and that's what's going on
Speaker 16: with the Somalis. It's what's going on with everybody. But
Speaker 16: if you if you keep pointing your finger at racism, racism, homophobe,
Speaker 16: it just is done to keep more smoke and mirrors going.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you I appreciate the call, Fred, appreciate
Speaker 2: you taking Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he talked about screaming racism. What's that, Sally, there's
Speaker 1: a saying it's the last vestige of a scoundrel. Just
Speaker 1: to throw that out. It's lost virtually all of its meaning.
Speaker 1: And it's a shame because I believe there are real
Speaker 1: racists in the world, and some in this country, of
Speaker 1: both races, but so minute in number.
Speaker 2: It's just, you know, nobody gets anywhere piggybacking on that. Maybe, oh,
Speaker 2: islamophobe that might have a little bit more cachet to it,
Speaker 2: who knows. I don't care what they call me. Hey,
Speaker 2: let's talk to Tony in Westchester. Thank you, Mike for
Speaker 2: taking my call, my pleasure, and then you do put.
Speaker 4: On a grand, I mean grand show, and all.
Speaker 11: The people that's called in I feel.
Speaker 6: Lower than them.
Speaker 3: I don't know why, all right, because I'm just a
Speaker 3: simple man.
Speaker 6: Yep.
Speaker 1: No, I appreciate that, and I appreciate the call too, Tony,
Speaker 1: thank you. I don't know where to Tony's called before,
Speaker 1: great guy, but I just don't know where he was
Speaker 1: going on that.
Speaker 2: Hey, let's talk to Kate. Hey, Kate, how you doing.
Speaker 17: I'm doing okay. I just want to know where do
Speaker 17: I sign up to start my class action suit from
Speaker 17: twenty twenty. Because I watched the Democrats in Lockstep, bow
Speaker 17: and scrape in front of the Zolensky promised to send money.
Speaker 18: Everywhere, but to the US.
Speaker 17: I felt threatened by a president who came onto the
Speaker 17: television saying that they were losing their patients because we
Speaker 17: weren't taking the vaccine that was misrepresented and full of
Speaker 17: holes as far as even biological accuracy.
Speaker 2: And that's coming out now.
Speaker 17: I am feeling, like, you know, I've got revisiting post
Speaker 17: traumatic stress at this point.
Speaker 11: I've never up.
Speaker 17: Until then, bought a gun. I bought weapons, I bought ammo.
Speaker 17: I'm in a peaceful Midwestern suburb, and I was concerned
Speaker 17: that these blm peaceful protest rioters were going to be
Speaker 17: coming into our neighborhoods dragging us out of our houses.
Speaker 14: Who do I go see about this?
Speaker 17: I am just thinking about it, and I'm so angry
Speaker 17: for what they put me through. There's got to be
Speaker 17: other people feeling this.
Speaker 2: Way, and I understand that too, And I don't put
Speaker 2: anything past anybody or any group anymore.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's kind of a wild West
Speaker 1: out there. As far as a legal basis for it.
Speaker 2: I don't know that you have that yet, but a
Speaker 2: lot of people are thinking like you're thinking, Kate.
Speaker 4: I would love to.
Speaker 17: Stay in touch with that Mike, I appreciate your programs
Speaker 17: and thank you for taking my call. I just revisit
Speaker 17: those theoretical or supposed lawmakers in DC at that time,
Speaker 17: and the whole sums up to theater, the word that
Speaker 17: started being used, and it was all theater. They nearly
Speaker 17: ruined the country. They you know, when Trump was in
Speaker 17: the first time, they undermined him at every turn.
Speaker 6: Yep.
Speaker 17: Well nobody seems to. It doesn't come up very much anymore.
Speaker 17: Nobody revisits and says, excuse me, remember all this crap
Speaker 17: they put us through.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, And you know what, I'm glad you
Speaker 2: said that.
Speaker 1: You're right, because I think the average voter has a
Speaker 1: damn short memory, you know, and Trump can be abrasive
Speaker 1: and he can't you know, honk people off. Look at
Speaker 1: the results though, look at the results. But people have
Speaker 1: a short memory, especially people that go to vote.
Speaker 2: Maybe we made a.
Speaker 17: Video compilation of Nancy tearing up his speech, of her
Speaker 17: sarcastic little clap, undermining him, trying to impeach him. Yep,
Speaker 17: the whole Biden crime family, you know, on and on.
Speaker 17: You know where I'm going. It just needs to be
Speaker 17: got up in a nice video compumation to remind people.
Speaker 2: I get it, Kate, Hey, I got to go.
Speaker 1: I got one more caller, I gotta get in uh
Speaker 1: SETI in Columbus. Hey, thanks for hanging in there with us.
Speaker 1: What you got and you got to be quick. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 6: Mike, real quick.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 18: The Somali investigation in Minnesota needs to needs to boil
Speaker 18: over into Columbus where we have a extremely an extremely
Speaker 18: large population of Somali's.
Speaker 2: Somebody told me that it's.
Speaker 18: I'm telling you, Mike, and our governor yesterday disappointed me
Speaker 18: yet again. He got on he made a a I
Speaker 18: guess it was a press release or something, and he
Speaker 18: didn't say, Ohio is looking into it or anything.
Speaker 9: He just said.
Speaker 18: Our Somali population are all good people or something like that.
Speaker 18: And I'm not I'm not doubting that. I'm just saying,
Speaker 18: if they're looking at one city, they need to look
Speaker 18: at all the cities and and see if this problem,
Speaker 18: which is did I hear you correctly?
Speaker 6: Eight billion with a beat?
Speaker 1: Well that's what That's what some of the one at
Speaker 1: least one whistleblower is saying. It could get up to
Speaker 1: six to eight billion, which is just astounding.
Speaker 18: That and imagine you put that in two or three
Speaker 18: other cities, and you know there's going to be more.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: That's I don't know.
Speaker 18: My I hope Ohio, I hope Governor de Wine or
Speaker 18: whoever is looking. I guess it's the FEDS that are looking.
Speaker 6: I hope they.
Speaker 18: I hope they looking at their Columbus.
Speaker 2: Well, I think we're at the tip of the iceberg.
Speaker 2: I appreciate the call. I gotta get going, though, Buddy, Okay,
Speaker 2: you know what.
Speaker 1: This thing, you know, as Jannis said, it's got legs
Speaker 1: and we haven't heard the last of this by any
Speaker 1: stretch of the imagination. Hey, I'm out of time, which
Speaker 1: means I'm out out here. Mike Allens seven hundred WLW