WEBVTT - Mike Allen Saturday Morning -- 12/6/25 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:04.120 News Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen and Saturday midday 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:10.400 really cold Saturday morning. I hate this weather. I'll tell 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:16.720 you what. This is something to behold. That situation out 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:21.680 in Minnesota, with the fraud out there, it's just staggering, 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:24.880 and it only gets worse. I really do believe we're 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:27.280 only at the tip of the iceberg on this thing. 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:33.639 I mean, at least one billion dollars basically just stolen 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:38.360 from the taxpayers, and the whistleblowers say it could go 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:42.600 up to eight billion, probably land somewhere in the middle. 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:44.360 It's just mind boggling. 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:48.280 How something like that could happen under the government's nose. 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:51.400 You know, I did this. I just felt like playing 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:54.000 around here a little bit. So just to put it 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:58.240 in perspective, let's just assume the total loss is one 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:03.800 billion bucks. I looked up on AI and I trust 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:08.679 a pretty much what the salary for a Minneapolis police 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:13.520 officer is. The average salary, Boy, it's not bad. Ninety 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:18.959 six thousand dollars a year. So I divided ninety six 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:23.240 thousand by one billion. It came up to and it 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:25.600 was wrong. It's not my fault, it's ours, but it's 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:30.240 not wrong. They could hire ten thousand, four hundred and 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:35.800 sixteen police officers with that one billion dollars. Again, it 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:39.360 is a staggering waste of taxpayer money. 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:43.280 Basically, it's three programs. 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:45.720 We're going to talk about a couple here today, and 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:48.760 we're also going to be talking to Janie Heisel about 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:52.600 this at eleven. She's on this, and I feel very 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:57.800 comfortable saying this as tight as any reporter in this country. 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:03.400 She was recognized by Newt Gingrich for her reporting on 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:06.639 this story. She fouled a news story yesterday. I believe 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:09.320 it was with some more facts. We'll be talking to 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:14.440 Janis at eleven o'clock about it. So the big one is, 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:17.440 or at least the first one is feeding our future. 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:20.640 Sounds good, doesn't it. They always have those names that 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:25.679 they put on them. This one. They know that more. 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:28.760 Than two hundred and fifty million dollars was stolen from 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:33.120 the taxpayers on this one. So they used the money 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:40.960 to buy luxury cars, houses, beachfront property, jewelry. And if 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:45.440 that sounds familiar, that's exactly what Black Lives Matter, the 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:50.600 sainted Black Lives Matter did, And to the best of 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:54.360 my knowledge, there were no prosecutions in that gee, I 0:02:54.520 --> 0:03:01.200 wonder why, Okay, Medicaid claims submitted through the program that's 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:08.040 called Housing Stabilization Services. So they're supposed to use the 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:13.360 medicaid dollars, which Medicaid is healthcare related Medicaid dollars to 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:18.920 fund find and maintain housing for senior citizens, people with 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:25.280 disabilities or substance abuse. They got these people got the 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:29.959 names of people from places like addiction treatment centers. Pick 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:32.280 up the phone and say, hey, you know, we're from 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:35.680 the government. We're here to help. Who can we help? 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:36.760 Give us your list? 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:44.440 And they then the Somalians inflated submitted inflated numbers in 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:49.320 these reimbursement claims. That one at least now reached one 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:53.400 hundred and four million in twenty twenty four, one hundred 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:58.080 four million dollars of the taxpayer's dough taken. This one 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:03.000 might be the most just ballsy, I guess is the 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:07.200 way to say it. People have no function at all 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:12.800 figuring out what's right and what's fair. Autism care funding Autism, 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:15.880 of course is a big thing now, and that's a 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:21.520 good thing. I've got a little grand niece who is autistic. 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:26.080 I'm glad to see that happen. Didn't happen here though. 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:29.159 All right, there's a twenty eight year old woman by 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:35.080 the name of Asha Faran Hassan. She would recruit parents 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:41.240 to get their kids checked for autism. Okay, every child 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:47.240 recruited by this person, guess what was diagnosed with autism, 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:49.560 whether they had it or not. 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:52.640 And the overwhelming number did not. 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:58.080 I mean, wouldn't you think that that would stand out 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:02.520 to an auditor, to a controller, or to a governor 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:06.640 and attorney general for that matter. So anyway, they got 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:10.880 the kickback. The somebodi's got the money, and they gave 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:15.800 a kickback of three hundred to fifteen hundred dollars per 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:19.480 excuse me, fifteen thousand dollars per child they just put 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:25.080 in their pocket. Now, the common thread among these examples 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:30.320 is that it's obvious, although I can't say it, I'm 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:33.560 gonna say it, most of the defendants, the people involved 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:39.360 in this thing are of Somalian heritage. But again, you're 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:42.760 not allowed to say that because if you do, you 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:48.520 may be called are you ready racist? Or even worse 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:52.680 than that, you may be called Islamophobic. 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:57.640 That's legit too. And as we get into this story, you're. 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:00.159 Gonna see people did not want to move on this, 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:02.680 and that is one of the reasons, believe it or not. 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:05.360 And here's the kicker. 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:08.960 This is just if it's not bad enough, this is 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:12.719 the cherry on top of the Sunday Some of the money, 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:16.240 from what I'm reading, a great deal of the money 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:19.960 is kicked back to a group by the name of 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:25.520 Al Shabab, which just happens to be a Somalian terrorist group. 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:30.000 Isn't that a nice little touch our money, taxpayer money 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:35.080 going to fund something like that. And this is Janis's reporting. 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:38.479 Janice Heisler's reporting from a couple of weeks ago. I 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:40.839 just want to read you something there. There's a guy 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:45.520 named William Klan. He's a former Federal Reserve Systems analyst. 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:48.440 He told the Epoch Times that he believes and I'm 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:51.400 going to quote him here. Janis quoted him in the story. 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:58.920 He believes with one hundred percent certainty, one hundred percent certainty, 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:04.040 that our Shabab is receiving the money, most likely despite 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:09.280 the sender's intentions to benefit their friends and relatives back home. 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:13.200 So I guess that means the thieves are stealing from 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:16.760 the thieves you get what you asked for. I guess 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:20.080 does that surprise you at all? Given the people that 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:20.880 are involved in this? 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:21.520 Oh? 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:24.480 Hell no. And of course it's a terrorist group. 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:27.520 But you and I through this, our tax pro federal 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:32.680 taxpayer dollars were funding it. You know, you might be 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:36.640 asking yourself, because I did. I asked myself, how in 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:40.960 the heck could something like this go on? And I've 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:44.440 never heard about it. I follow this stuff closely. I 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:48.440 didn't hear anything about this. You know, Tim Waltz was 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:53.400 the Democrat candidate for vice president. Wouldn't you think that 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:57.120 would have come up in their vetting process. Pretty bad. 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:02.760 But with respect to the media, listen to this network coverage. Now, 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:06.120 this was as of early this week, so the numbers 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:09.760 might not be the same now, but at any rate, ABC, 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:14.040 the Big Three, ABC, CBS, NBC, none of whom are 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:17.440 very relevant anymore, but it gives you an idea. ABC 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:26.120 gave zero minutes to the story, CBS zero minutes coverage, 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:31.000 but ABC, man, they really turned everything over to learn 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:31.440 about this. 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:36.920 They gave it one minute. It's just it's. 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:41.880 Sad, and there were people that knew about this. This 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:44.839 is from Yahoo News, a group of Minnesota State employees 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:48.720 said that they wrote to former Vice President Kamala Harris, 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:53.720 Kamala Harris and the Democratic National Committee multiple times quote 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:58.640 warning them about Waltz and what they described as his 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:05.080 quote incompetence, fraud, scandals, and retaliation close quote. Of course, 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:11.120 Walts was Harris's running mate in twenty twenty four. Okay, 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:14.880 ABC World News, and they're all circle on the wagons 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:19.000 protecting Tim Waltz. I mean, that's what they're doing. You know, 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:21.720 you can always they can always count on the mainstream 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:26.120 media to cover their tales. Okay again from Yahoo News, 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:31.200 ABC's World News Tonight, NBC's Nightly News, and CBS Evening 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:35.880 News have not mentioned Waltz by name in the past week, 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:41.240 according to a search of transcripts using Gravyan media. Not 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:45.720 familiar with that, but didn't even mention the guy. He's 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:51.320 the governor. I mean, Okay, the story goes on, and 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:53.600 this is this just drives home what I just said. 0:09:54.200 --> 0:10:00.360 The terms Somalia and Somalian were also not used on 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:06.040 any of the three network newscast And let's just face it, 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:11.000 that's what this is about. The overwhelming majority of these 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:16.080 people are of Somalian descent. I think that's relevant. It's 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:19.480 relevant for a political reason. You know, these people, Walls 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:22.880 and others. They don't want to honk off that community. 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:26.920 So it's fine, you know, still billion dollars. But I'm 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:30.440 not gonna make you mad. Somebody may call me islamophobic. 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:32.559 Oh my god, we couldn't have that. 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:33.960 Well. 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:40.079 The story goes on in Yahoo News another day, another 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:44.720 massive story of blue state political mouthfeasans hidden by the 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:50.760 elitist media nightly news NewsBusters, which is a media watchdog group. 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:52.800 They're really good, got a great website. 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:57.280 NewsBusters analysts Jorge Bania set in a report for the 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:01.880 conservative media watchdog group. Quote this time, there's not a 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:06.560 peep about the exploding welfare scandal currently engulfing the state 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:11.680 of Minnesota, which directly implicates some of its senior most 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:19.720 elected officials. That's close quote two wit Governor Wallace. So 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:21.720 you kind of get the idea. I mean, if you 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:24.760 hadn't heard about that, that's one of the reasons why. 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:28.640 I mean, they're not gonna they're just not gonna cover it. Well, 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:31.400 they have to cover it now, but they're going to 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:35.520 protect their people. It's just the way it is, you know, 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:39.760 it's overwhelming, this whole thing is. It's just it's hard 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:44.240 to believe. And those elected officials. There's no way that 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:48.160 the attorney general of that state and the governor of 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:51.200 that state did not know about this. There's no way, 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:56.200 you know. In spite of that, too, Kamala Harris picks 0:11:56.280 --> 0:12:01.840 him for her running mate. I mean, she could have 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:06.800 had Josh Sapiro in Pennsylvania, a far better candidate, but 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:10.960 she couldn't do that because if she did that, she 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:16.120 would honk off the anti Semitic base of the Democrat Party. 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:21.120 So she picks this bozo and you know what I mean. 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:23.520 I don't mean to get personal, but he really is 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:26.640 the guy's of buffoon. I mean when he got picked, 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:31.719 remember going out on the stage there, waving his hands wildly. 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:36.160 It just didn't make any sense. Well, after the twenty 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:39.679 twenty two federal raids, this mister glan that we were 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:42.440 talking about before, again, this is right from Janisi's story, 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:46.240 last week's story, not the new one. After the twenty 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:52.240 twenty two federal raids, mister GLn looked back at earlier scandals. 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:55.760 He believes they set the stage for the schemes that 0:12:55.840 --> 0:13:01.280 eventually emerged. The scope is now so over overwhelming that 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:06.240 federal prosecutors admit, listen to this, folks, listen to this. 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:14.280 They admit that they lack the manpower to charge everyone involved. 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:18.439 Let me give it to you again, federal prosecutors, and 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:22.880 let me tell you something. People, those offices are well funded. 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:28.920 Federal prosecutors admit they lack the manpower to charge everyone involved. 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:35.800 That is inexcusable. If you don't have the manpower in 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:39.160 the federal realm, you can get it. But I have 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:44.760 never seen a situation where any prosecutor at any level says, hey, 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:48.880 you know, it's so overwhelming, we don't have the manpower 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:51.280 to charge these people. So you know we're gonna have 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:54.839 to turn a blind eye to that unbelievable. 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:58.079 Well, it goes on. Just a couple more sentences here 0:13:58.120 --> 0:13:59.040 from Genesis. 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:05.200 Report over the federal childcare assistance program being vulnerable to 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:09.440 fraud date back to two thousand and nine. Two thousand 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:13.160 and nine, that's according to a twenty nineteen two nine 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:19.200 twenty nineteen Minnesota report. So they had an idea specific 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:24.680 concerns about Somali run childcare programs in Minnesota exploiting those 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:28.480 weaknesses surfaced around twenty and sixteen. 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:29.520 Mister Clown said. 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:35.800 By twenty eighteen, a Minnesota whistleblower and some media organizations 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:39.360 were reporting that up to one hundred million dollars was 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:46.320 being stolen via fraudulent childcare billing. Those reports also alleged 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:53.680 the stolen money was funding terrorist organizations in Somalia. I 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:57.080 don't know, maybe you agree with me, maybe you don't, 0:14:57.120 --> 0:15:01.240 but this is unbelievable. I've seen government ways, you know, 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:04.000 you hear the stories about the five hundred dollars hammers 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:06.920 and all that kind of stuff. This is just the 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:11.560 amounts involved in the fact that in mister grond who 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:15.680 janis interviewed Forget who he's with, but he's a respected guy. 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:19.320 He said he's one hundred percent sure it went to 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:21.200 these groups. 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:23.240 It boggles the mind. 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:27.400 You know you talk about affordability, Yes, of course it's important. 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:34.200 How about the word accountability. Somebody has to be held 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:38.240 accountable for this. You know, Waltz is in his almost 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:41.640 finished with his I believe, second term, running for a 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:44.880 third term. You don't think that guy knew anything about it. 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:49.240 There's just no way he didn't. We have to have 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:54.040 accountability for this and to that end, James Comer of 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:58.800 the Congress Republican Congress, head of the Oversight Committee, he's 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:01.560 already all over it. But you know what he and 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:05.760 that committee, we're all over the Biden crime family. You know, 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:09.120 the stuff in millions of dollars into a bank account, 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:13.920 washing it twenty times over and nothing happened. And I'm 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:18.280 not blaming mister Comer, but something has to happen on 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:23.080 this one. Again just based upon sheer numbers. Anyway, That's 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:25.200 what I think you are going to be hearing more 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:28.720 about this story on this show, at least, I promise you, 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:30.720 I don't give a damn if they call me a 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:33.600 racist or islamophlobic. 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:36.080 I'm going to talk about it again. 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:38.640 At eleven o'clock we're gonna be hearing from Janis Heisel 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:42.160 of the Epoch Times, who I believe that apparently Newt 0:16:42.240 --> 0:16:47.000 Gingrich believes is the reporter that's got the best handle 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:50.720 on this story. And that's a big deal, it really is. 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:52.920 But at any rate, I want to know what you think. 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:56.280 Of course, seven four nine, seven thousand, one, eight hundred, 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:59.640 The big one are the numbers. Mike Allen Saturday Midday 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:03.240 Phones in just one minute here. I wanted to let 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:07.760 people know too. From eleven thirty to noon open lines. 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:12.560 So if you did not get through this time, try 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:13.520 eleven thirty. 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:17.120 Just one thing. I promise I'll get to the phones. 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:21.680 This article in Yahoo about the media coverage is really good. 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:25.640 Okay. I just want to read a quote here from 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:30.600 the Governor Tim Walls. I will note he's really. 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:34.520 Worried about saying this every time. I will note it's 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:39.080 not just some allions. Minnesota is a generous state. Minnesota 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:42.840 is a prosperous state, a well run state. We're triple 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:47.480 A bond rated. But that attracts criminals. Those people are 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:50.800 going to jail. We're doing everything we can, but to 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:54.600 demonize an entire community on the actions of a few, 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:58.520 it's lazy. Well, let me point out a couple of things, Governor. 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:03.719 It ain't the actions of a few. This is overwhelmingly 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:08.560 run by the graft, by some allions. And you know what, 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:11.920 there's not a darn thing wrong about pointing that out, 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:16.240 you know. And the other thing he says, they they're 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:19.439 going to attract criminals because they're triple A bond rated. 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:21.880 You know, I've been in the criminal justice system for 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:24.040 more years than I care to even know. 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:27.800 I've never heard of that. I don't think they're way 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:32.680 up on the municipal bond situation. The guy is just delusional, 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:36.200 he really is. And that's the dude that's number one 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:39.960 who has to be held accountable. Anyway, enough of me, 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:43.280 let's talk to Melanie. Hey, Good morning, Melanie. 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:48.120 Good morning, Mike Allen. Thanks for taking my call. I'm 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:52.200 really really super shy. So okay, this is the time 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:54.720 I've called WLW in the past two weeks because you're 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:56.200 my new favorite radio stations. 0:18:56.400 --> 0:19:00.520 Ah, thank you, that's great, thank you. Yeah. 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:04.719 Well, I just wanted to say resarting Omar. I actually, 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:07.679 back in twenty sixteen was just having an awakening and 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:11.200 getting away from leftist stuff. But I was friends online 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:14.920 and on the telephone with her digital campaign manager, and 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:17.280 he's a really nice guy. They're nice people. I think 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:20.840 they're just misdirected like I was. They're getting a lot 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:26.119 of people into socialism with a saying it goes that 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:29.200 all socialism is is the radical idea of sharing. 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:32.879 I heard that. I heard that this week. You know what, 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:35.359 that ain't gonna fly, but you know, let him say it. 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:40.240 Yeah. And as far as like the racial stuff goes, 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:45.639 I mean, they're really coming down on white people. And 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:49.520 I just wanted to read a quote took Okay, all right. 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:53.720 The quote is, it is in the Jewish interest, It 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:58.320 is in humanity's interest that white's experience a genocide until 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:03.800 white children are burned alive, white women rape mutilated, murdered, 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:06.359 and all white men who have not been slaughtered watch 0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:11.119 powerlessly as their people are terrorized. Only then will mankind 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:15.080 be on a more equal footing, ready to discuss white 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:18.320 privilege and the apparent ship on the soldiers that minorities have. 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:20.080 And that was Ishmael Lovitz. 0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:22.199 Who is that person? 0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:22.560 Is he? 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:24.640 Abbi? 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:27.440 Okay? A rabbi said that. 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:31.600 Yeah, a rabbi said that. And then Ariel Sharone declared 0:20:31.640 --> 0:20:35.720 in two thousand and one, we the Jewish people control 0:20:35.760 --> 0:20:37.760 America and the Americans know it. 0:20:39.160 --> 0:20:44.880 Well, I don't know, you're not anti Semitic, are you, Melanie. 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:46.000 I'm not. 0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:49.760 I'm actually Jewish. I actually assimilated though and became a Christian. 0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:53.159 Yeah, you know what, And I appreciate your calling, but 0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:56.600 I don't know how can a Jewish a person feel 0:20:56.640 --> 0:20:57.720 that way in a rabbi. 0:20:58.000 --> 0:21:02.960 I don't understand that I lost her. Darn it. I 0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:03.600 don't get it. 0:21:03.680 --> 0:21:07.240 I mean she said she's Jewish. You know she's quoting 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:11.080 whoever the hell she was quoting a rabbi. I don't 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:14.040 get it. I wouldn't break my heart if she doesn't. 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:14.600 Call back again. 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:17.879 How about Fred in Saint Petersburg, Man, I wish I 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:19.680 was there, Hey, Fred, how you doing. 0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:21.120 I'm doing great? 0:21:21.200 --> 0:21:21.400 Mike. 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:25.280 Yeah, that woman she I don't think she was on 0:21:25.320 --> 0:21:27.440 a straight and narrow now, you know what I mean. 0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:32.280 Anyway, I've actually been following this for four or five years. 0:21:32.880 --> 0:21:36.680 I subscribed to a podcast that's out of St. Paul, Minneapolis, 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:38.520 and they've been talking about this before. 0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:40.359 It's got to be four or five years. 0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:40.800 Anyway. 0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:45.800 My point, they are so bold as to they actually 0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:47.600 had a woman come from Seattle with. 0:21:48.200 --> 0:21:52.120 One hundred thousand dollars cash in a bag. This guy 0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:56.159 was about to go on trial. She went to one 0:21:56.200 --> 0:22:00.720 of the juror's house with that bag of money. The juror, Yeah, 0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:04.560 I swear you're turned her in. I think she's in jail. 0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:06.800 I wish I could remember the names, you know, I 0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:08.120 can't pronounce any of these names. 0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:11.960 But anyway, and there's also a list the whistleful or 0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:16.240 turned into a list or somebody did seventy nine people 0:22:16.280 --> 0:22:22.400 that are investigate being investigated or about to be arrested 0:22:22.480 --> 0:22:23.040 or whatever. 0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:25.840 There's only one name on that whole list that you 0:22:25.960 --> 0:22:26.960 or I could pronounce. 0:22:27.680 --> 0:22:33.639 So yeah, Walls is saying, well, you know, we can't discriminate. Okay, 0:22:33.720 --> 0:22:37.320 I get it, fine, but you know the famous last 0:22:37.359 --> 0:22:37.960 words is. 0:22:39.440 --> 0:22:40.880 They're not all crooks. 0:22:41.320 --> 0:22:45.960 Well, you know, in your example, it sounds like about 0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:49.000 ninety five percent. Or you know what if one group 0:22:49.040 --> 0:22:52.399 I don't care who they are, white people, Jewish people, 0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:58.520 Camplic people, whatever, are predominant a in a scam, by god, 0:22:58.600 --> 0:23:01.640 it's okay to say that, and nobody's going to tell 0:23:01.680 --> 0:23:03.080 me differently. 0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:03.560 Yeah. 0:23:03.560 --> 0:23:06.480 Well, another thing I forgot today. 0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:09.080 Early on, there's a guy got arrested for doing this, 0:23:09.359 --> 0:23:14.919 and his lawyer talked one of Ellison's guys into actually 0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:17.520 letting him go back to some molly and take care 0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:19.879 of some loose ends. He bought a motel and a 0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:24.040 bunch of land, and of course he never came back, right, 0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:28.119 But that was early on, and I guarantee you you know, 0:23:28.840 --> 0:23:33.080 Harris didn't pick Walls just because he's a great he'll 0:23:33.119 --> 0:23:37.960 be a great vice president. I guarantee you this money 0:23:38.160 --> 0:23:41.280 was being funneled somehow to the Democratic Party. 0:23:41.640 --> 0:23:44.600 Well, I mean, it's just not only that she didn't 0:23:44.600 --> 0:23:48.520 want to risk losing Minnesota so that a small group 0:23:48.560 --> 0:23:54.359 of people really chose some believe her running mate Josh 0:23:54.400 --> 0:23:59.520 Shapiro was so heads and shoulders above her as a 0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:02.879 VP pick, and now she's trashing and he's trashing her 0:24:02.960 --> 0:24:03.480 right back. 0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:06.360 It's just it's a debacle, is what it is. 0:24:06.400 --> 0:24:09.280 But you know that that woman that called we don't 0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:12.080 do anti semitism on this show, we just don't. 0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:15.320 She was a plan. Yes, you know, she knew what 0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:15.840 she was doing. 0:24:17.960 --> 0:24:20.240 Another thing on Shapeiro, you know he probably didn't want 0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:23.520 to do it anyway, right, he was smart and not 0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:24.000 doing it. 0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:28.040 Oh yeah, he would have gone down the crapper. I mean, yeah, 0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:30.320 I guess we'll have to see. But I really appreciate 0:24:30.359 --> 0:24:30.919 the call for it. 0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:31.440 I got a lot. 0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:36.720 Okay, thank you. Uh let's talk to Eric in Cincinnati. 0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:38.520 Hey Eric, how you doing. 0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:40.920 Hey, Mike, really. 0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:42.520 Good, Thank you appreciate you taking my call. 0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:44.920 Okay, uh uh. 0:24:46.280 --> 0:24:48.240 Kind of a two part thing. Here today. You know, 0:24:48.240 --> 0:24:51.440 when we talk about state or local grift of government, 0:24:52.080 --> 0:24:54.280 how about we look at Aftet pure Bal having his 0:24:54.320 --> 0:24:55.680 carnwreath assess last year. 0:24:56.000 --> 0:24:56.880 Yeah, I saw. 0:24:56.720 --> 0:24:57.480 That, what kind of. 0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:00.919 One of more on who who would vote for. 0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:01.639 An idiot like this? 0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:05.000 Well it didn't come out during the election. I don't know, 0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:08.320 Maybe somebody was sitting on it. I don't know. You know, 0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:13.560 I'd rather criticize him for his policies. But that's not 0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:16.119 a good thing for an elected official to have, you know, 0:25:16.960 --> 0:25:17.640 being out. 0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:18.520 There a. 0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:23.760 Complete irresponsibility, and how is he managing the city's budget. 0:25:24.320 --> 0:25:28.480 But on a secondary note, I mean, how easy is 0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:33.280 it for government drift and corruption and leaky dollars to 0:25:33.320 --> 0:25:35.960 go out when and I'm sorry to hear I didn't 0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:39.760 didn't know about your grandniece, but autism. It seems to 0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:44.200 me that there is way too much leakage of money 0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:47.480 coming out of autism. Really and and I'll give you 0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:50.840 two examples. And and I wanted to make sure I 0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:53.359 came with some with some examples. And I know it 0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:57.320 might be a little bit of a of a contentious claim, 0:25:57.600 --> 0:26:01.760 but I watched a podcast recently, uh called trigger Nometry, 0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:07.840 and they had quote the world's leading expert on autism, uh, 0:26:07.880 --> 0:26:13.359 doctor Simon Baron Cohen. And when they the first question 0:26:13.440 --> 0:26:16.080 they asked is what is autism. When you don't get 0:26:16.080 --> 0:26:19.080 a straight answer right away as to what it actually is, 0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:22.680 it certainly makes you a little suspect. But then you 0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:27.960 also go and look at the Trump administration and uh, 0:26:28.640 --> 0:26:31.800 mister Kennedy are trying to find out the causes of autism. 0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:35.240 There have been advocacy groups that have said, and this 0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:38.320 is from The Guardian from October of this year, so 0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:42.320 they're less concerned about what's causing autism as they are 0:26:42.440 --> 0:26:47.520 about funding advocacy programs and helping people to live with autism. 0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:50.640 I mean that that sounds completely bizarre, Mike. 0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:52.280 Can you imagine it? 0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:52.560 Does? 0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:54.600 I imagine the uh, the Dough. 0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:57.000 I'm sorry, the Dough ought to be going to research 0:26:57.080 --> 0:27:01.160 into causes of it. I know exactly what you're talking about. Frankly, 0:27:01.240 --> 0:27:04.120 I haven't followed it that closely, but there's a lot 0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:06.200 of talk out there about it. But yeah, I mean, 0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:08.520 try to find a cure first and then we'll worry 0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:09.320 about the other thing. 0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:11.200 Absolutely. 0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:15.840 I mean, could you imagine the Susan Coleman breast cancer research, 0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:18.439 people saying, well, we're not sorried about what's causing it 0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:21.359 as we are to getting money to people who are 0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:24.560 suffering from it. Yeah, it just seems completely bizarre and 0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:30.199 ripe for government corruptions. So I appreciate you, Mike. I 0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:33.640 love your show. You are appointment Radio every Saturday. 0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:36.120 I thank you, Eric, thank you so much for that. 0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:41.000 I appreciate that. Yeah, I mean, fund it the research 0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:41.840 for the cause. 0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:45.119 And I don't know much about autism. Perhaps I should 0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:48.760 know more, and I'm going to educate myself, but my god, 0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:52.479 it seems like there's a lot of it. There are 0:27:52.480 --> 0:27:55.919 some that speculate it's something that we're doing food supply 0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:58.640 or something like that. I have no idea, but it's 0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:02.120 important to find out if we can. Let's see who 0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:07.800 is next. I want to be fair. How about William? Hey, William, 0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:08.360 how you doing? 0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:08.720 Man? 0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:10.520 All right? Good? 0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:15.320 Why is it that we can always find a cause 0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:21.919 and generate a sense of or a method to fund 0:28:21.960 --> 0:28:25.240 these plans, but never audit them along the way. 0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:29.520 Well, that needs to happen. It's hard to fathom, it 0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:33.840 really is, William. It's hard to fathom that this situation 0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:35.880 out there in Minnesota wasn't audited. 0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:38.720 You're right, that's exactly what has to happen. 0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:43.080 And you know my government experience when I worked for 0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:45.840 the government, not that much and not at that high 0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:47.040 highest levels. 0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:50.200 I know they did audit these people from time to time. 0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:55.320 Well, I have a relative, my daughter, who works for 0:28:55.360 --> 0:29:00.720 a school system, and the whole purpose of her job, 0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:03.960 this whole purpose is to make sure the monies. 0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:06.840 Are going where they're supposed to go. Yep and white. 0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:10.000 We can't do that with the government. I'll never understand. 0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:11.200 I don't enter it. 0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:13.960 Yeah, so that's all I have. 0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:18.400 Okay, I appreciate the call, Thank you very much. Yeah, 0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:21.480 you know you're going to use government money. You ought 0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:26.760 to be accountable or answerable to someone, whether it's a controller, 0:29:26.920 --> 0:29:31.400 an auditor, or whatever. How in the heck people can 0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:35.400 steal at a minimum a billion bucks from the government 0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:39.440 and seemingly get away with it. Now I know Tampon 0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:42.120 tim says, well, we've got some going to jail and 0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:44.760 even more are Well where were you? 0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:44.960 You know? 0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:49.720 I just read the report that I think it was 0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:53.360 Janis's reporting that people knew about this or had an 0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:57.240 idea two thousand and nine twenty and sixteen. How can 0:29:57.280 --> 0:30:01.000 it go on? Then again, this is just the tip 0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:04.240 of the iceberg. Hey, we got time for one more quickie? 0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:04.920 How about Rob? 0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:06.360 Hey? 0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:06.720 Rob? 0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:08.880 Canm I tell you today? 0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:10.680 I'm good? Got about two and a half minutes. 0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:15.720 Wasn't the first time on a repo issue with mister 0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:18.840 pure evil. I don't understand that he's making money. His wife, 0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:23.080 Epitheen's in the medical profession as a doctor, so someone 0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:26.760 needs to look at the finances there. Secondly, who is 0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:30.440 the attorney that's representing the protesters and rioters that are 0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:33.920 getting eight plus million dollars? Can you name the firm 0:30:34.040 --> 0:30:38.520 or can you name the legal representative who's going to 0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:40.840 cash in on about thirty forty percent of that money 0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:43.680 that we're going to reward these clowns that tore up 0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:51.320 the city, spit on through whatever, steel balls, pieces of concrete, rocks, 0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:54.719 that everything at. The police officers, their hands have been tied. 0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:58.520 And as far as accountability of the last comment a 0:30:58.560 --> 0:31:01.840 few years back, the city council folks, they were totally 0:31:01.880 --> 0:31:02.640 preserve evidence. 0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:03.480 Preserve evidence. 0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:04.760 Yeah, welth of them didn't. 0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:08.719 Nothing happened to them, Mike, There's no accountability locally, on 0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:12.480 the state, on the federal level, it's almost like the 0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:15.720 people the dog chasing the tail. Yeah, there's no accountability 0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:18.520 anywhere unless you're on the other side. 0:31:18.320 --> 0:31:22.680 With common sense exactly exactly, And I'm gonna answer your concerns. 0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:25.120 I appreciate the call. We're bumping up against the news, 0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:27.120 but you bring up a lot of good things. I 0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:30.280 did read a couple of stories. Fox nineteen story and 0:31:30.360 --> 0:31:34.320 the Inquire's story about that situation with respect to the 0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:37.479 money that these protesters are going to get makes me 0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:42.320 want to vomit too. I didn't recognize I take that back. 0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:46.000 One of the lawyers I think was al Gerhardstein. I 0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:49.200 gotta say I was a very very good lawyer. These 0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:52.080 are the kind of cases he takes. Once a lawyer 0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:55.360 accepts the case, I mean, you gotta do what you 0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:57.400 gotta do for your client. 0:31:58.000 --> 0:31:58.200 You know. 0:31:58.280 --> 0:32:00.640 The onus I don't think is on the turn The 0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:04.400 onus is on the city. I mean, you know, they 0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:06.600 rack up the city for what was an eight million, 0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:10.200 and then you got Chief Fiji. They're gonna have to 0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:13.400 back up the brinks truck to city Hall to settle 0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:17.040 with her and the fire chief as well. It's just negligence. 0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:19.920 And again, if you live in the city and pay 0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:24.480 the earnings tax, I don't anymore. Thank god, it's your money. Anyway, 0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:26.560 we have to take a break, but when we get back, 0:32:26.640 --> 0:32:30.440 we are going to talk to the aforementioned Christopher Smith. 0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:33.719 We am talked to him in a while. Mike Allen's 0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:35.680 seven hundred WLW. 0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:37.400 Sexting rules are recurring. What it takes a marketing messages specs, 0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:38.880 a frequency, various message data reachs me. 0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:43.200 A plug of Saturday midday. Well, I tell you what 0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:45.360 we talked a little bit about it. Someone tells me 0:32:45.360 --> 0:32:48.000 we're gonna be talking about this for a while. Eight 0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:52.040 million dollars settlement that if you live in the city 0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:55.680 or work in the city, it's your earnings tax money 0:32:55.880 --> 0:32:58.080 you're paying for it. And that's on top of what 0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:01.000 I know they're going to end up pay and Chief Thiji, 0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:05.080 and I believe that the fire chief got a pretty 0:33:05.080 --> 0:33:07.880 good settlement too. Here to talk about that and other 0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:11.520 issues is Christopher Schmidman. Christopher, thanks for joining. 0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:14.640 Us, Hey, thank you so much for having me on. 0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:15.000 Mike. 0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:18.520 I am just as shocked as you are on a 0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:21.880 number of fronts, you know, because you're hearing. You know, 0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:25.600 the city is issuing judgment bonds, which means we don't 0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:30.400 have the money to pay, so we're issuing debt. The 0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:33.479 public has to digest that. We know that the interest 0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:36.160 rates aren't the way they used to be ten fifteen 0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:39.640 years ago. They're not two point five percent or twenty 0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:42.840 years ago when they issued ninety four million dollars of 0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:47.200 debt for the street car. So this is probably you know, 0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:51.240 in the seven sixty seven percent on on ten million, 0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:54.200 because we're giving the lawyers two million, So this is 0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:58.760 a ten million dollar settlement. And think about for the 0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:02.680 public here. Because I was the vice mayor serving with 0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:05.160 John Cranley, so I'm not running away from any of this. 0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:09.359 We had people, We had people in downtown who were 0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:18.560 setting fires, breaking into businesses surrounding our uh, surrounding city Hall. 0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:21.840 We had swat down there, we had the police, and 0:34:22.080 --> 0:34:25.560 the amount of overtime that we were spending in order 0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:29.480 to keep the businesses and the core of our city 0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:33.319 together was just an extraordinary time. And so to wake 0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:37.920 up and here we're giving ten million dollars, not eight 0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:40.600 point one because the lawyers are going to get a 0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:44.400 couple of million dollars and were issue judgment bonds. You 0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:46.920 and I know, and you just said it. The taxpayers 0:34:46.960 --> 0:34:50.480 are paying this bill. What could the mayor have done differently? 0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:55.000 I thought he handled it very well. 0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:59.200 But I'm saying, no, John handled it well. I'm saying, 0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:02.560 what could this mayor has done? Which is saying, let's 0:35:02.560 --> 0:35:05.840 go to trial. I want to try. I want a 0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:09.719 jury to come out and say in southern Ohio we 0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:13.880 owe ten million dollars to people who are breaking the 0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:17.799 law in downtown. Let's let's put everybody on trial and 0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:20.839 let's let them decide what this settlement is. 0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:21.359 Like. 0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:25.839 That's what That's what's so frustrating for me. Like, I'm 0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:27.680 just tired of it, man, I'm tired of all the 0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:32.440 race baiting, all of this, you know. I'm you know, reparations. 0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:35.560 I need this and I need that. This is time 0:35:35.600 --> 0:35:39.600 for people to work, handle their business, do what you 0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:43.040 need to do, raise your families, pay your child support, 0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:45.080 you know, do what you're supposed to do in this 0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:48.560 world to make the world better. There was no reason, 0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:53.040 Like a peaceful protest is one thing, right, but that 0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:56.680 is not what we were experiencing in downtown. We were 0:35:56.760 --> 0:36:01.400 not experiencing peaceful protests. Now, were there people down there 0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:06.239 who were being peaceful? Yes, among the chaos, right, but 0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:09.640 there's enough video out there for anybody to see what 0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:14.360 was happening downtown wasn't peaceful? Mike Allen, what does this 0:36:14.480 --> 0:36:17.560 mean to our cops going forward when we have the 0:36:17.600 --> 0:36:20.920 next situation? Right, they're talking about we're going to put 0:36:20.920 --> 0:36:25.960 together my policies. That don't mean what do you mean? Right? 0:36:26.040 --> 0:36:28.880 What do you mean You're saying that when they're riots 0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:32.480 in your city, you can't quell them. Well, that's the 0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:35.520 way to bring law in order. That's back to our city. 0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:38.760 That's the way it's trending, Christopher, not only in this city, 0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:41.960 in other cities too. I mean, he had the situation 0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:44.560 on the bridge where I guess that Covington police officer 0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:47.520 is in a jam on that. You know what, I 0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:53.160 never participated, from a cop perspective, in a riot, But 0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:57.680 you know, you can't be genteel about everything. One thing 0:36:57.719 --> 0:36:59.880 I want to do here, Christopher, if you would indulge me, 0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:02.719 I want to read it's a very short statement from 0:37:03.160 --> 0:37:07.120 FOP president Ken Kober. Wanted to try to get him today, 0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:09.560 but I wasn't able to do it. I'm gonna try 0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:10.680 to get him on next Saturday. 0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:11.160 Anyway. 0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:15.000 Here's his statement, the FOP president, the city asked our 0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:19.400 officers to enforce the curfew they imposed by arresting individuals 0:37:19.440 --> 0:37:23.120 causing chaos and destruction during the riots of twenty twenty. 0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:26.200 This is the importance, I think a very good part 0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:31.680 out of ideological persuasions. The law Department dismissed hundreds of charges, 0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:35.240 hundreds of charges and brought a multi million dollar civil 0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:37.960 suit against the good people of Cincinnati. 0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:38.600 And he's right. 0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:43.600 The Muni Court judges on Moss dismissed this stuff. 0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:45.560 I don't know why. 0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:50.560 Here's what I will say to you. I'm thinking in 0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:56.200 my mind that everybody going home and saying, hey, we're 0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:58.160 just going to walk away from some of this stuff 0:37:58.280 --> 0:38:03.600 was enough. I wasn't that. Now You've got the lawyers 0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:06.840 who are now saying, you know, now what's going to 0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:10.040 happen is we're going to sue you civilly, right, and 0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:13.520 so now they're taking it. So the next time this happens, right, 0:38:13.600 --> 0:38:16.480 everybody's going to have to rethink how they handle it, 0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:19.239 including myself. Everybody's going to have to sit back and 0:38:19.280 --> 0:38:21.560 go oh, there are lawyers out there that are that 0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:25.759 aggressive that now will sue us, even though we're saying, hey, 0:38:25.880 --> 0:38:28.880 everybody go back to their corners. We're gonna play knights 0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:31.000 in the sandbox and try to move on because we 0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:34.400 don't want more chaos in our communities than in our city. 0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:38.759 So here's my bottom line. The only thing that has 0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:42.000 happened today is taxpayers are paying this bill no matter 0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:46.200 where you live. My mom's property taxes you know who, 0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:50.080 she's a widow, are going higher. My property taxes on 0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:53.520 my office, on my personal property in the city are 0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:56.360 going higher. And all they're doing is forcing more and 0:38:56.440 --> 0:38:59.840 more people to make the decision to move further in 0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:02.920 the county, take their businesses in the county so they 0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:04.160 don't have to pay that tax. 0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:05.600 Yep, that's all they're doing. 0:39:06.120 --> 0:39:09.760 You know, how is it cheaper per mileage for Indian 0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:12.080 Hill than it is in the city of Cincinnati. We're 0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:15.120 gonna have to start grappling with it's just getting too 0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:19.520 expensive for people to function in our city. Mike Allen, 0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:22.160 that's where we are. And then when you layer on 0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:25.759 things like okay, now they're layering on the operation of 0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:29.479 the streetcar or expanding the streetcar or the stadium deal. 0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:31.920 It's not like this is a one off. It's like 0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:34.560 there are a lot of things coming at us right, 0:39:34.840 --> 0:39:37.759 and people are just saying, I can't afford it. I 0:39:37.800 --> 0:39:40.399 cannot afford to live in the city of Cincinnati. And 0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:43.239 the last thing I'll say as a financial planner, my 0:39:43.400 --> 0:39:46.520 clients are moving to Florida, and they're moving to Texas 0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:50.439 for a reason. Right. They're not just leaving the county, right, 0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:55.040 They're moving completely out of the state, saying they're trying 0:39:55.040 --> 0:39:59.399 to find places where taxes are reasonable, or they say 0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:02.520 to me, at least I have a outline of what 0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:04.480 the rules are and they're consistent. 0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:08.240 Yep. And you can tell you can see that happening. 0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:11.080 I mean, uh. And it's a damn shame too, because 0:40:11.120 --> 0:40:13.000 this city, I think has a lot to offer. 0:40:13.280 --> 0:40:16.160 I do have one more question on this, Christopher. Okay, 0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:18.520 so this is what did you say. I know it 0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:20.720 is eight point one, but it's closer to ten million. 0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:24.640 The fire chief didn't the fire chief hit them up 0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:27.799 hard on a settlement. I thought I read that, and 0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:29.279 then you got yeah, I don't think. 0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:31.800 I don't I don't think. I don't think Chief Washington 0:40:31.920 --> 0:40:37.279 has settled. I anticipate he's won the lawsuit. They have 0:40:37.400 --> 0:40:40.400 now appealed it and the city lost and the judge 0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:43.360 has said, you guys need to settle this case. You know, 0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:46.640 I'm thinking three to five million dollars for the fire 0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:50.919 chief Chief Washington, and I also think that Fiji Chief 0:40:50.960 --> 0:40:55.480 Fiji is also going to get a significant settlements. There's 0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:58.799 a fire chief, Chief Sherman who a lot of people 0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:01.840 don't know, but know they fired him right after the 0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:05.360 election saying that he was helping Chief Washington by sending 0:41:05.440 --> 0:41:08.560 emails in his case and they fired him. I assume 0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:10.959 he's also going to sue and over the next couple 0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:12.279 of years he's gonna win too. 0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:13.440 This is just a. 0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:19.080 Debacle, But elections have consequences. Right our communities like bond Hill, 0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:24.239 like Evingston, like Hyde Park, like Mount lookout right as examples, 0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:27.160 even though they were doing these developments, said these are 0:41:27.160 --> 0:41:29.799 the people that they want in charge, and I respect 0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:34.560 their decision. Right am not here complaining about the decision. 0:41:34.600 --> 0:41:38.240 They didn't select me, they didn't select a Liz Keating, 0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:42.120 they didn't select Gooden as an example, they didn't select 0:41:42.200 --> 0:41:46.520 Lakita Cole I respect what the voters have said, and 0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:52.439 I stand down. But elections have consequences. If I were 0:41:52.480 --> 0:41:55.360 the mayor, I never would have settled this case. We 0:41:55.400 --> 0:41:57.680 would have had to go to trial, and I would 0:41:57.680 --> 0:42:01.360 have put on the best litigation that we could because 0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:07.240 the implications on our ability to quill future yet riot 0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:10.719 in our downtown are going to be impaired. That is 0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:14.880 a serious problem, and it undermines our police department, in 0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:15.720 our in our city. 0:42:16.000 --> 0:42:18.720 It does. Let me move on here. I've been waiting 0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:20.520 to ask you this. I want to get your reaction 0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:24.600 to what happened, what is happening because it's an ongoing 0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:30.720 story in Minnesota with the unbelievable at least one billion 0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:34.560 dollars graft and fraud that's going on out there. I mean, 0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:36.760 you know, you were on city council. 0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:39.239 You know governments, you know how they spend money, and 0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:41.760 you know the oversight or lack of saying. 0:42:42.120 --> 0:42:44.800 What are your thoughts on that? Christopher? I can't believe 0:42:45.360 --> 0:42:48.240 somebody didn't catch that, But anyway, what do you think? 0:42:49.320 --> 0:42:54.040 Well, clearly, you know this racial environment that we're living 0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:57.920 in has unfortunately people not looking close. I think that 0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:01.120 was a part of the problem. Yeah, the Somali community, 0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:04.319 and this is the result of it. I just look 0:43:04.360 --> 0:43:08.240 at my own business, you know, as a financial planner, 0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:13.160 I'm annually audited. I'm deeply audited every three years. They 0:43:13.200 --> 0:43:16.680 look through my financial records for a reason, right, because 0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:20.080 they don't want a financial planner or a stockbroker impaired, 0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:23.560 because it raises the risk that I might go into 0:43:23.600 --> 0:43:26.239 a client's account number one, or a client might be 0:43:26.280 --> 0:43:28.760 trying to loan me money, or I might be involved 0:43:28.760 --> 0:43:32.000 in something that's horrible. So I'm saying, not only are 0:43:32.000 --> 0:43:34.720 we talking about what's happening in this case, we're talking 0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:38.240 about what's happening at city Hall with the mayor having 0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:42.120 his cars repot. It's all the same. It's corruption. And 0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:45.360 what we're going to find is, remember every year, Mike Allen, 0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:48.680 you haven't been an elected official. We have to file 0:43:48.719 --> 0:43:53.680 an ethics report. We have to disclose what our debts are. 0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:56.920 Have we filed bankruptcy? You know, what are our assets? 0:43:56.920 --> 0:43:59.640 Where are we investing our money. Somebody's going to go 0:43:59.680 --> 0:44:02.440 back and look and see what Mayor pure Val has 0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:06.600 been putting down on those financial records to the state, 0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:10.640 because it's possible that he was not disclosing that he 0:44:10.719 --> 0:44:14.160 was having financial problems. The reason this is such a 0:44:14.160 --> 0:44:18.680 big deal to me is a politician who is financially impaired. 0:44:19.080 --> 0:44:23.839 It raises the probability of bribery. It raises the probability 0:44:23.880 --> 0:44:27.239 on the margin that someone can influence you in a 0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:30.279 different way because you need that job or you need 0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:33.680 those resources. So that's why we fill out those financial 0:44:33.719 --> 0:44:37.640 reports so everybody can understand where we're having conflicts of interest. 0:44:38.000 --> 0:44:40.839 This is a conflict of interest for the mayor. It's 0:44:40.880 --> 0:44:43.760 a conflict of interest for the governor that we're talking 0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:48.480 about with the Somali situation, and it breeds corruption because 0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:51.239 you have a government that was really just turning their 0:44:51.280 --> 0:44:55.080 heads during COVID, handing out millions and millions, and it 0:44:55.120 --> 0:44:58.279 was a billion dollars that we absolutely lost track of 0:44:58.760 --> 0:45:01.440 at the end of the day. Somebody should go to jail. 0:45:01.840 --> 0:45:04.399 It doesn't matter who they are. This should be nonpartisan. 0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:06.760 Mike Allen, Oh, it has nothing to do with Democrat 0:45:06.880 --> 0:45:11.600 or Republican, whoever is involved with this situation. Everybody should 0:45:11.640 --> 0:45:14.719 be held account and everybody should go to jail. Period. 0:45:15.440 --> 0:45:20.719 If anything less happens, our country is on fire. Wrong 0:45:20.760 --> 0:45:21.200 with us. 0:45:21.280 --> 0:45:24.200 I mean, come on, a billion dollars And again, I 0:45:24.239 --> 0:45:26.560 don't know if you saw it, Christopher that one of 0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:29.160 the whistleblowers said that he thought it could get up 0:45:29.160 --> 0:45:32.920 to eight billion under the nose of the governor and 0:45:32.960 --> 0:45:36.200 the attorney general of the state of Minnesota. 0:45:36.480 --> 0:45:37.720 Yeah, I've been around a while. 0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:42.920 It clearly just boggles my mind just the dimensions of it. 0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:47.479 Think about this was a guy that was literally one 0:45:47.560 --> 0:45:50.680 step from the White House. That's right, Governor right, he 0:45:50.840 --> 0:45:55.480 was running for vice president of the United States of America, 0:45:56.320 --> 0:45:59.760 and he's involved right now in the biggest fraud case 0:46:00.160 --> 0:46:02.880 in the history of our country as it relates to 0:46:03.760 --> 0:46:07.200 dollars coming from the government through COVID going directly to 0:46:07.239 --> 0:46:10.240 a state. This is an amazing thing. And most likely 0:46:11.320 --> 0:46:15.200 people knew about this and did not disclose it right 0:46:15.360 --> 0:46:19.920 during the election. Meaning what is happening with our current 0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:24.080 mayor with the disclosure of multiple cars being repolled, Meaning 0:46:24.120 --> 0:46:27.719 he's really not being truthful. Mike Allen, most likely, as 0:46:27.719 --> 0:46:30.840 a financial planner, when you're having this kind of problem, 0:46:31.200 --> 0:46:34.600 you have cash flow issues. This is most likely impacting 0:46:34.760 --> 0:46:38.120 his home, is most likely impacting credit card debt is 0:46:38.160 --> 0:46:41.520 most likely impacting his cars and any other investment he has. 0:46:41.960 --> 0:46:45.360 Our mayor is financially impaired, and there should be a 0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:49.080 full investigation into it. What I'm saying here is that 0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:52.440 most likely you had a government that covered up the 0:46:52.480 --> 0:46:55.160 fact that the vice president of the guy running for 0:46:55.239 --> 0:46:58.440 vice president was having this kind of issue in a state. 0:46:58.760 --> 0:47:01.080 I believe the same thing with local a year we 0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:03.680 just came out of an election. Clearly they found that 0:47:03.760 --> 0:47:07.680 Corey Bowman, they put this stupid story in the paper 0:47:07.719 --> 0:47:11.000 that he hadn't paid some taxes that he actually had paid. 0:47:11.520 --> 0:47:14.840 This is a situation where the mayor's car was repulled 0:47:15.120 --> 0:47:17.480 right in front of city Hall, meaning his car was 0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:21.840 taken at parked outside our government, the core of our city. 0:47:22.000 --> 0:47:24.439 And it didn't even come up during the campaign. Yeah, 0:47:24.600 --> 0:47:27.879 this is the laziness of the media, brother, Oh laziness. 0:47:28.000 --> 0:47:29.000 Yeah, absolutely. 0:47:29.200 --> 0:47:31.880 I mean not only on a state level, some not 0:47:32.000 --> 0:47:34.520 a lot on the local level. We only got about 0:47:34.520 --> 0:47:39.280 two more moneys. What I can't understand is Kamala Harris. 0:47:39.440 --> 0:47:43.000 Why would she have signed off on him if she 0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:46.400 and she had to know something about this when she 0:47:46.440 --> 0:47:49.560 had I know why she didn't pick Josh Shapiro because 0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:53.760 she'd honk off the anti Semitic base of her party. 0:47:53.760 --> 0:47:56.520 But I just don't understand. But there's so much about 0:47:56.520 --> 0:47:57.600 her I don't understand. 0:47:57.640 --> 0:48:02.359 I guess well answered the question right. First of all, 0:48:02.360 --> 0:48:05.600 it was ego, meaning Kamala Harris did not want to 0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:08.960 select somebody who she thought would be bigger than her. 0:48:09.520 --> 0:48:13.320 This is important. Her personality would not There's some people 0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:17.680 that can't have smart people around them, right, So part 0:48:17.680 --> 0:48:20.560 of it with it. Shapiro should have been the natural 0:48:20.600 --> 0:48:24.319 selection for her. He was the strongest candidate coming out 0:48:24.320 --> 0:48:28.960 of Pennsylvania, out of the miss Midwest, and ultimately she lost. 0:48:29.000 --> 0:48:32.200 It was she one of the reasons she lost that 0:48:32.239 --> 0:48:35.560 election because Governor Shapiro would have been doing a great 0:48:35.640 --> 0:48:40.160 job in Indiana, contucture in pa in Ohio. Right, but 0:48:40.400 --> 0:48:45.080 her anti Semitic behavior. I can't pick him because he's Jewish, 0:48:45.440 --> 0:48:50.040 because of what is happening between Israel and Hamas, I 0:48:50.120 --> 0:48:53.200 can't pick a Jewish person for my ticket. This is 0:48:53.239 --> 0:48:55.799 what the Democratic ticket was really wrestling with. 0:48:56.040 --> 0:48:56.440 So they did. 0:48:56.760 --> 0:48:59.640 And by the way, she was more competent, a much 0:48:59.680 --> 0:49:00.640 better speaker. 0:49:00.840 --> 0:49:02.879 Oh yeah, he has a. 0:49:02.840 --> 0:49:05.600 State that's on the ball. If he runs for president 0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:07.880 in the next three years, he's going to give the 0:49:07.920 --> 0:49:10.720 Republicans a run for their money coming out of coming 0:49:10.719 --> 0:49:13.320 out of Pennsylvania. But the reason she didn't do the 0:49:13.360 --> 0:49:16.960 selection is simple. It was her ego. She can't. She 0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:20.279 wants a weak person in the position she has that 0:49:20.360 --> 0:49:22.799 kind of anybody's had a boss that they feel like, 0:49:22.840 --> 0:49:24.919 you know, like they want you to tell them every 0:49:24.960 --> 0:49:28.040 second thing that's going on around you. Notice that how 0:49:28.080 --> 0:49:31.040 her employee don't like working for her. She's a very 0:49:31.040 --> 0:49:34.520 difficult person to work with. That is why she selected 0:49:34.560 --> 0:49:37.800 the guy she selected. She wanted somebody week that wouldn't 0:49:37.800 --> 0:49:38.719 outshine her. 0:49:39.000 --> 0:49:41.520 Yep, all right, my friend, we're out of time, but 0:49:41.640 --> 0:49:44.840 I really appreciate our chats and we will definitely do 0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:45.360 it again. 0:49:46.400 --> 0:49:49.719 And Mike Allen, people can follow me at votes Smitherman 0:49:50.080 --> 0:49:52.880 on social media on x It's a great way for 0:49:52.920 --> 0:49:55.359 people to get updates between now and the next time 0:49:55.400 --> 0:49:56.840 you invite me on on a Saturday. 0:49:56.920 --> 0:50:01.600 Okay, okay, thank you, all right. Chris First Smithman still 0:50:01.840 --> 0:50:06.520 very very relevant on the local political scene here. And 0:50:06.560 --> 0:50:08.520 I don't know speaking for a lot of people, I know, 0:50:08.640 --> 0:50:11.960 I hope he gives it a shot again at some point. 0:50:12.120 --> 0:50:13.239 Hey, we got to take a break. 0:50:13.239 --> 0:50:15.160 But when we get back, we're going to talk to 0:50:15.200 --> 0:50:19.880 Steve Gooden about the legal issues surrounding this situation in 0:50:19.960 --> 0:50:23.480 Minnesota and some other legal issues as well. We'll get 0:50:23.520 --> 0:50:26.120 into the political stuff with him too, but mainly legal. 0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:29.160 We'll do that when we get back. Mike Allen, Saturday 0:50:29.200 --> 0:50:35.719 Midday seven, Honor WLW. Mike Allen, Saturday midday. I'll tell 0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:38.840 you what we just can't seem to get rid of 0:50:38.880 --> 0:50:42.319 the Jeffrey Epstein issue. You might have seen it. A 0:50:42.360 --> 0:50:46.120 federal judge in Florida ordered to the release of grand 0:50:46.200 --> 0:50:50.359 jury transcripts, which is really unusual from the mid two 0:50:50.400 --> 0:50:55.160 thousands investigation into Epstein, and the Justice Department has, according 0:50:55.160 --> 0:50:59.520 to AI, till December nineteenth to do that. I saw 0:50:59.520 --> 0:51:02.799 one account said December seventeenth. Here to talk about that 0:51:02.880 --> 0:51:07.160 in many other things is attorney Steve Gooden. Steve is 0:51:07.440 --> 0:51:10.600 a partner at Porter Wright and he's got a lot 0:51:10.640 --> 0:51:12.560 of experience along these lines. 0:51:12.920 --> 0:51:18.480 Steve, thanks for calling in anytime. Mike, good morning, Good morning. 0:51:18.840 --> 0:51:21.280 You know you know you heard what I just said, Steve, 0:51:21.360 --> 0:51:25.880 and I think you would agree. Extremely unusual for a 0:51:26.000 --> 0:51:30.279 judge to order a release of grand jury testimony. Your 0:51:30.320 --> 0:51:33.760 thoughts on that as to why and what the effect. 0:51:33.400 --> 0:51:37.279 Will be, Well, you know, I mean long term, it's 0:51:37.280 --> 0:51:39.600 really hard to say what the effect will be. You know. 0:51:39.680 --> 0:51:43.439 We I think now the public knows generally what has 0:51:43.520 --> 0:51:46.040 been alleged. You know, I'll be very surprised if there 0:51:46.080 --> 0:51:49.799 are any real bombshells there. But you're absolutely right. I mean, 0:51:49.800 --> 0:51:52.120 as you know, you know from your day's prosecuting and 0:51:52.120 --> 0:51:56.000 prosecuting cases, the grand jury is supposed to be absolutely 0:51:56.040 --> 0:51:59.319 and totally Yeah, I mean, the idea is to you know, 0:51:59.400 --> 0:52:02.080 there are times times, I know, the joke is always 0:52:02.080 --> 0:52:04.000 among lawyers that a grand jury will and die to 0:52:04.040 --> 0:52:06.520 ham Sandwich, but I've seen it, and there are other 0:52:06.560 --> 0:52:09.800 times when you go in there, the grand jury has questions, 0:52:09.840 --> 0:52:13.200 the prosecutor develops doubts about the case, and you have 0:52:13.280 --> 0:52:15.600 to have secrecy at the grand jury level because you 0:52:15.680 --> 0:52:19.200 may decide and they may decide not to indict the individual. 0:52:19.320 --> 0:52:21.719 So you're trying to protect the reputations of people who 0:52:21.760 --> 0:52:25.440 are particularly potentially innocent, and you want the victims to 0:52:25.480 --> 0:52:27.879 be able to talk about what happened in a very 0:52:28.280 --> 0:52:32.200 safe place. So the idea that you know that judges 0:52:32.440 --> 0:52:35.640 very rarely unsealed the testimony grand jury if there is 0:52:35.680 --> 0:52:39.200 a jury trial, typically the judges will unseal small portions 0:52:39.600 --> 0:52:43.040 if a witness actually had talked to the grand jury 0:52:43.080 --> 0:52:45.719 is going to testify again at trial. But it's just 0:52:45.840 --> 0:52:49.440 one of those third rails in the American legal system 0:52:49.480 --> 0:52:51.640 when it comes to criminal law, you just don't do 0:52:51.719 --> 0:52:53.799 it without a great reason. But this just goes to 0:52:53.840 --> 0:52:57.640 show that when the public demands things and politics come 0:52:57.680 --> 0:53:01.799 into play, sometimes anymore, the rules go out the door. 0:53:01.920 --> 0:53:04.680 So I'm very curious as to why the judge's order 0:53:04.719 --> 0:53:07.719 really doesn't delve into it in any meaningful way. But 0:53:07.760 --> 0:53:10.160 the case is closed. I believe you know, the grand 0:53:10.200 --> 0:53:13.120 jury testimony that was there, much of it was never 0:53:13.280 --> 0:53:17.920 actually used in the ultimate case against mister Epstein. So 0:53:18.600 --> 0:53:21.040 what good this does? What the you know, what the 0:53:21.040 --> 0:53:25.040 overwriting public purpose of this is. I don't know. I'll 0:53:25.080 --> 0:53:26.840 be a little bit surprised if we don't see some 0:53:26.880 --> 0:53:30.680 fighting back from the Justice Department, but we'll see. But 0:53:30.719 --> 0:53:33.160 that you know, this is not again, not really a 0:53:33.160 --> 0:53:35.759 good day. I, like everyone else, would would like to 0:53:35.800 --> 0:53:38.480 know more about how this deal was cut. There's no 0:53:38.600 --> 0:53:42.480 question that Epstein got a sweetheart deal. Maybe the reason 0:53:42.520 --> 0:53:44.880 why he got a sweetheart deal can be found, or 0:53:44.920 --> 0:53:48.200 maybe there might be some something elucidating in those transcripts 0:53:48.200 --> 0:53:51.160 where we learned that either there were issues with the victims, 0:53:51.239 --> 0:53:53.080 or some of the victims didn't want to go forward, 0:53:53.200 --> 0:53:55.560 or their stories didn't match up, or whatever the case 0:53:55.600 --> 0:53:59.000 may be. It's all speculation at this point. But this 0:53:59.200 --> 0:54:02.040 is a very unusual and kind of strange day for 0:54:02.160 --> 0:54:02.680 our system. 0:54:02.880 --> 0:54:05.799 Yeah, but if it puts Epstein behind us, I'm all 0:54:05.800 --> 0:54:08.719 for it. And you know what, from a political perspective, 0:54:08.719 --> 0:54:11.239 Steve Gooden, I mean, if there were anything that was 0:54:11.440 --> 0:54:14.520 that harmful to Trump, don't you think we would have 0:54:14.640 --> 0:54:15.680 known about it already. 0:54:17.040 --> 0:54:20.040 Look, I will be you know, like lover hate Donald Trump. 0:54:20.200 --> 0:54:23.200 I mean, there has never been anything credible that has 0:54:23.239 --> 0:54:25.560 come out that he knew about the details of this 0:54:25.719 --> 0:54:28.160 or well or at least participated. I mean, they're those 0:54:28.160 --> 0:54:31.320 photos which are terrible. It's clearly new and the clear 0:54:31.480 --> 0:54:34.080 it's clear that Trump ran in those social circles. But 0:54:34.120 --> 0:54:36.960 you know, Epstein had a way of insinuating himself with 0:54:37.120 --> 0:54:39.359 rich and powerful people. That's what he did. I mean, 0:54:39.400 --> 0:54:42.640 you know, he was clearly very close to folks like 0:54:43.239 --> 0:54:45.400 you know, Bill Gates. I think you know, his relationship 0:54:45.440 --> 0:54:47.920 with him, you know, it led to the demise of 0:54:47.960 --> 0:54:50.560 his marriage to Melinda Gates and the splitting of their 0:54:50.640 --> 0:54:53.000 huge fortune. I mean, he was very close to Bill 0:54:53.000 --> 0:54:55.880 Clinton famously had that picture of Bill Clinton wearing that 0:54:56.000 --> 0:54:59.800 Monica Almsky's blue dress and his entry way of his apartment. 0:55:00.120 --> 0:55:03.040 He was. He just ran in those circles. So I've 0:55:03.120 --> 0:55:06.480 never really seen anything lover hate Trump that really connected 0:55:06.520 --> 0:55:09.280 him to any criminal wrongdoing here. And if there's something, 0:55:09.280 --> 0:55:11.799 if he came, the likelihood of him coming up in 0:55:11.880 --> 0:55:15.239 these twenty seven year old grand jury transcripts, which I 0:55:15.320 --> 0:55:18.520 seemed to from what I understand, focused primarily on Epstein's 0:55:18.680 --> 0:55:23.360 activities in Florida and on his island nearby. You know, 0:55:23.440 --> 0:55:25.799 I think that's that's a stretch, and maybe, you know, 0:55:25.840 --> 0:55:28.000 maybe the Justice Department will be just to soon have 0:55:28.040 --> 0:55:30.600 them come out to kind of clear that up. But again, 0:55:30.640 --> 0:55:32.680 these are these folks, particularly some of these younger women 0:55:32.680 --> 0:55:35.160 who testified before that grand jury, did so with the 0:55:35.239 --> 0:55:38.400 promise that this was going to be secret, that it 0:55:38.480 --> 0:55:41.840 was not going to be made public and whatever stories 0:55:41.920 --> 0:55:44.120 they told, and I presume, we presume it's going to 0:55:44.160 --> 0:55:46.480 be mostly you know, young victims. He testified before the 0:55:46.560 --> 0:55:49.640 grand jury. You know they did so, you know, in 0:55:49.920 --> 0:55:51.560 this sense that that was a safe place and they 0:55:51.560 --> 0:55:53.080 could tell their stories. So I think it's kind of 0:55:53.080 --> 0:55:55.200 a terrible thing, all these years later for it to 0:55:55.239 --> 0:55:58.600 come out, unless you know, there's some you know, incredibly 0:55:58.640 --> 0:56:00.439 compelling reason that none of us know about. 0:56:00.440 --> 0:56:00.680 Here. 0:56:01.000 --> 0:56:03.719 Yeah, you know what, And I'm looking forward to just 0:56:04.200 --> 0:56:07.640 from a curiosity standpoint, what's in there. But I'm glad 0:56:07.640 --> 0:56:10.200 it's finally going away. Hey, let me switch gears out. 0:56:10.320 --> 0:56:13.319 And you're the perfect person to talk about this. You 0:56:13.320 --> 0:56:16.680 were on city council, you're an attorney. You know how 0:56:16.719 --> 0:56:21.440 things go. I wake up this morning two stories. Cincinnati 0:56:21.600 --> 0:56:26.840 reaches eight million dollar settlement after hundreds of protestss arrested 0:56:26.960 --> 0:56:31.080 during George Floyd protests. Were you surprised to see that, Steve, 0:56:31.160 --> 0:56:33.680 I don't think that happened on your watch on council, 0:56:33.800 --> 0:56:35.040 or maybe it did, did it? 0:56:35.800 --> 0:56:37.960 Oh? Well, god, no, no, no, you know I did 0:56:38.040 --> 0:56:39.879 live that. I was actually in the process of being 0:56:39.880 --> 0:56:43.600 appointed to council when the okay, when the protests were occurring. 0:56:43.680 --> 0:56:46.080 I was actually still living downtown and very much lived 0:56:46.080 --> 0:56:49.360 those protests, and let me tell you, they were not peaceful. 0:56:50.320 --> 0:56:52.280 That's one of the main reasons I moved from downtown. 0:56:52.320 --> 0:56:53.920 At the time. I was living downtown with my eight 0:56:54.040 --> 0:56:56.279 year old son down on Fourth Street because I had 0:56:56.280 --> 0:56:59.120 two offices here that I was helping manage and deal with. 0:56:59.280 --> 0:57:02.480 And I'll tell you it was. You know, the protests 0:57:02.480 --> 0:57:05.319 began peaceful, but when you hear glass breaking at three 0:57:05.360 --> 0:57:08.279 in the morning, I don't think that's peaceful. And when 0:57:08.280 --> 0:57:11.160 you see people destroying private property, it's not peaceful. And 0:57:11.160 --> 0:57:14.720 what happened here was I have to give some credit 0:57:14.760 --> 0:57:17.960 to former Mayor John Cranleigh. What he did was he 0:57:18.000 --> 0:57:19.760 imposed it. And this is the heart of the case. 0:57:19.800 --> 0:57:22.560 He imposed a curfew and said, look, you know you 0:57:22.920 --> 0:57:24.880 can't you can't be out at three in the morning. 0:57:24.880 --> 0:57:27.400 You can't be tearing up other people's property. That's not 0:57:27.640 --> 0:57:32.640 actual protests, that's just rioting and stupidity. And he the 0:57:32.680 --> 0:57:34.360 reason he put the curfew in place was and he 0:57:34.520 --> 0:57:37.880 gave the officers, this team that he sent down the 0:57:37.920 --> 0:57:40.280 right to arrest people for violating the curfew. So they 0:57:40.320 --> 0:57:43.040 went and literally rounded up about four hundred of the 0:57:43.080 --> 0:57:45.919 worst of these folks, and they didn't have a place 0:57:45.920 --> 0:57:48.440 for them at the Justice center, so they basically cordoned 0:57:48.480 --> 0:57:51.320 off and made kind of a pen basically and made 0:57:51.360 --> 0:57:53.240 them all stand around over the over the course of 0:57:53.280 --> 0:57:55.560 the night while they were processing them out. So the 0:57:55.600 --> 0:57:58.040 heart of the lawsuit that they spoke. Four hundred some 0:57:58.080 --> 0:58:02.160 people filed a class action lawsuit that the curfew was 0:58:02.200 --> 0:58:06.280 an unconstitutional restraint on their protest. I guess that they 0:58:06.280 --> 0:58:07.840 had a right to go throw rocks at three in 0:58:07.880 --> 0:58:10.040 the morning, which I think is silly. And then number two, 0:58:10.120 --> 0:58:12.320 the conditions at the jail were terrible too, So the 0:58:12.400 --> 0:58:15.080 county threw in about six and sixty five thousand dollars. 0:58:15.520 --> 0:58:19.880 The city is giving them an unconscionable and unbelievable eight 0:58:19.920 --> 0:58:22.640 million dollars just split amongst them all. Two million of 0:58:22.640 --> 0:58:26.040 course go to the lawyers. Yeah, which is sick, you know, 0:58:26.280 --> 0:58:30.000 so so and so on and and the and basically 0:58:30.080 --> 0:58:32.720 the city is forcing the police department to put new 0:58:33.320 --> 0:58:36.080 regulations in place about how to deal with protesters. But 0:58:36.200 --> 0:58:39.480 you know, at the end of the day, Columbus, Uh, 0:58:39.520 --> 0:58:43.560 it took them years to get over there George Floyd protests. Uh, 0:58:43.680 --> 0:58:45.640 because you know they I mean, I mean that their 0:58:45.680 --> 0:58:48.480 downtown was kind of decimated. Our city was not. In 0:58:48.600 --> 0:58:51.320 large part, I think the cause Cranley did stand up 0:58:51.640 --> 0:58:54.120 and had the backbone to oppose the curfew and not 0:58:54.200 --> 0:58:55.520 just impose it, but enforce it. 0:58:56.240 --> 0:58:56.439 Uh. 0:58:56.480 --> 0:58:58.640 And I think, you know, for the folks who actually 0:58:58.640 --> 0:59:03.080 live downtown, have businesses downtown, at offices downtown, I think 0:59:03.120 --> 0:59:05.400 they were all thankful that he did what he did, 0:59:05.440 --> 0:59:08.040 and this is just a political effort to rewrite history. 0:59:08.040 --> 0:59:11.200 It's disgusting. I would note that this settlement has clearly 0:59:11.240 --> 0:59:14.000 been negotiated months before, but they waited to go after 0:59:14.080 --> 0:59:17.480 the election to announce it. And you guys are gonna 0:59:17.480 --> 0:59:19.360 have to vote on it next week. I'll be very 0:59:19.400 --> 0:59:23.640 curious if anybody of the nine council members, all of 0:59:23.640 --> 0:59:25.800 whom were all but one of whom were re elected, 0:59:25.800 --> 0:59:27.400 if any of them have the guts to at least 0:59:27.480 --> 0:59:29.920 question this. This is a terrible thing. It sends a 0:59:30.040 --> 0:59:33.280 terrible message. You know, you absolutely have a right to 0:59:33.320 --> 0:59:35.640 protest in this country, but you don't have a right 0:59:35.680 --> 0:59:38.560 to go tear up people's private property. And the absurdity 0:59:38.600 --> 0:59:40.440 of the idea that you could go break a window 0:59:40.480 --> 0:59:46.320 in Cincinnati to address alleged policeman's conduct in Minneapolis. I mean, 0:59:46.360 --> 0:59:50.080 it just doesn't even It makes no logical sense whatsoever. 0:59:50.400 --> 0:59:52.280 Yeah, I don't know who the litigators are in the 0:59:52.320 --> 0:59:56.160 Solicitor's office anymore. Maybe they farmed this thing out, but 0:59:56.640 --> 0:59:58.760 I don't know. Maybe they were afraid for some reason 0:59:58.760 --> 1:00:01.640 to try the case. It defies all logic to me. 1:00:01.760 --> 1:00:03.800 And I think I hear you saying the same thing 1:00:04.080 --> 1:00:05.480 with respect to Mayor Cranley. 1:00:05.600 --> 1:00:07.200 I could not agree with you more. 1:00:07.600 --> 1:00:09.640 The enquire Of this morning just has a couple very 1:00:09.760 --> 1:00:13.320 brief quotes from him. This is Mayor Cranley speaking that 1:00:13.440 --> 1:00:16.720 curfew and our police department saved our city when other 1:00:16.800 --> 1:00:20.560 cities were burning. And then everything I saw was of 1:00:20.600 --> 1:00:24.960 the utmost professionalism and restraint, talking about the cops and 1:00:25.040 --> 1:00:27.680 their actions saved our city. I want the record to 1:00:27.720 --> 1:00:30.960 show they did a great job. So I'm glad the mayor, 1:00:31.080 --> 1:00:34.040 a former mayor, did that, because I don't know if 1:00:34.080 --> 1:00:37.480 you saw it. Ken Gobert, FOP President, he ain't happy 1:00:37.520 --> 1:00:37.840 about it. 1:00:38.040 --> 1:00:40.360 Don't blame him. I don't blame him. 1:00:40.720 --> 1:00:43.960 Well, he's decided himself and he should be because the 1:00:44.040 --> 1:00:47.040 law department has sold out the FOP here basically, they're 1:00:47.080 --> 1:00:51.760 basically a que The settlement buys the central argument that 1:00:51.800 --> 1:00:55.480 the police officers acted unprofessionally, and there is zero evidence 1:00:55.520 --> 1:00:57.560 that I have seen of that. In fact, I wish 1:00:57.960 --> 1:01:00.280 that they had stepped in earlier. I mean, we were 1:01:00.320 --> 1:01:04.720 three really tough nights down here with the so called protests. 1:01:04.720 --> 1:01:07.360 I mean the pro I looked there were legit protests 1:01:07.360 --> 1:01:10.080 of normal people walking around and who were upset about it. 1:01:10.120 --> 1:01:12.040 I get it, I understand it. I have a lot 1:01:12.120 --> 1:01:15.480 of questions about what happened to George Floyd myself as 1:01:15.520 --> 1:01:18.240 an attorney and a former prosecutor. I mean, there's clearly 1:01:18.640 --> 1:01:22.120 things there that weren't good in the way that was 1:01:22.160 --> 1:01:26.000 handled all the way around. But the protests that spilled 1:01:26.000 --> 1:01:29.240 over into the night time, that spilled over into vandalism 1:01:29.280 --> 1:01:32.360 and property destruction and things of that nature. Thank God 1:01:32.400 --> 1:01:34.200 they came in and stepped in, And if anything, they 1:01:34.200 --> 1:01:37.439 should have stepped in earlier, because again I was right 1:01:37.480 --> 1:01:40.480 down here at ground zero as it was occurring. And 1:01:40.480 --> 1:01:42.640 again remember this was during COVID, which is one of 1:01:42.680 --> 1:01:45.280 the great hypocrises of it all. When you know a 1:01:45.320 --> 1:01:47.480 lot of the same folks that were saying you couldn't 1:01:47.480 --> 1:01:49.520 come upin six feet of someone, But it's okay if 1:01:49.560 --> 1:01:53.280 it's about a political cause you care about. So it 1:01:53.320 --> 1:01:55.320 was a weird, weird time, and I think people need 1:01:55.360 --> 1:01:58.040 to remember that. And I don't think they're being fair here. 1:01:57.960 --> 1:02:00.040 No, I don't think so at all in it. 1:02:00.120 --> 1:02:02.800 It just and you couple that with I know the 1:02:02.840 --> 1:02:05.840 fire chief is going to ring him up if who 1:02:05.920 --> 1:02:09.680 was fired, if he didn't do that already, and Chief Thiji, 1:02:09.680 --> 1:02:12.440 they're probably going to have to back a brinkstruck up 1:02:12.480 --> 1:02:16.439 the city hall. She still doesn't know why she got 1:02:16.480 --> 1:02:18.520 canned or suspendius. 1:02:19.920 --> 1:02:22.480 Well, yeah, the law department is not covering itself in 1:02:22.560 --> 1:02:24.680 glory these days. I mean. Look, I mean, if you 1:02:24.680 --> 1:02:27.200 look at any of the decisions in the case, former 1:02:27.280 --> 1:02:30.280 Chief Washington is winning his case. And I won't It 1:02:30.320 --> 1:02:32.160 would take me too long to get into the details 1:02:32.200 --> 1:02:34.600 of this year, but I think he is. I think 1:02:34.640 --> 1:02:37.120 he was railroaded. And my personal opinion from what I 1:02:37.120 --> 1:02:39.360 know about the case, and obviously I know him a bit, 1:02:39.440 --> 1:02:42.040 so I'm biased, but I think what occurred there was 1:02:42.120 --> 1:02:44.440 absolutely terrible. He just got on the wrong side of 1:02:44.480 --> 1:02:47.440 these folks in terms of office politics and my personal opinion, 1:02:47.760 --> 1:02:50.600 and they fired him and it's not going well for 1:02:50.720 --> 1:02:52.480 them in court. They're going to have to deal with him. 1:02:52.880 --> 1:02:55.400 And you're right, I mean, you know, chief chief, whether 1:02:55.600 --> 1:02:57.080 I going to watch you think about the job she 1:02:57.160 --> 1:03:01.520 ultimately did. You don't hang someone now publicly that way. 1:03:02.240 --> 1:03:05.120 And the idea that they're doing the investigation into why 1:03:05.160 --> 1:03:08.000 they're firing her after they put her on leave and 1:03:08.080 --> 1:03:11.440 essentially fire here. I mean, that's that's George orwell stuff. 1:03:11.520 --> 1:03:13.160 You know, it's like, well, we'll get around to the 1:03:13.240 --> 1:03:16.120 you're entitled to your due process, but first let's impose 1:03:16.160 --> 1:03:18.640 the sanction. Then we'll give you some process on the 1:03:18.680 --> 1:03:20.440 back end and hopefully we'll find something. 1:03:20.640 --> 1:03:20.960 Yeah. 1:03:21.000 --> 1:03:23.280 So, I mean, it's a terrible way to run a city. 1:03:23.320 --> 1:03:26.640 And you know, and it really again, it just demoralizes 1:03:26.680 --> 1:03:29.240 the rank and file officers and firefighters as they watch 1:03:29.240 --> 1:03:32.520 as shenanigans go on, and watch the people go through, 1:03:32.680 --> 1:03:35.920 you know, thirty to forty year careers reach the pinnacle 1:03:35.960 --> 1:03:38.720 of their of their profession and then just basically get 1:03:38.760 --> 1:03:41.840 treated like garbage in public. It's a terrible, terrible thing 1:03:41.880 --> 1:03:43.560 for the rank and file. 1:03:43.680 --> 1:03:44.280 It really is. 1:03:44.320 --> 1:03:47.160 And a part of this settlement apparently is they're going 1:03:47.200 --> 1:03:51.200 to receive more training on how to handle these situations. 1:03:51.480 --> 1:03:54.920 You know what, they already know how to handle these situations. 1:03:55.280 --> 1:03:58.800 I think they do an incredibly professional job. I was 1:03:58.920 --> 1:04:01.120 right in the middle of the Timid Thomas. 1:04:00.760 --> 1:04:04.280 Riots back in the early Yes, you're thousands, and they did. 1:04:04.440 --> 1:04:06.880 You know, they did a great job there. 1:04:07.160 --> 1:04:10.440 Sometimes if you're going to break up something, you know, 1:04:10.520 --> 1:04:13.640 you got to you gotta use some force. And you know, 1:04:13.720 --> 1:04:16.440 they talk about police reform, Steve and I'm rambling here. 1:04:16.600 --> 1:04:20.439 We got about a minute. The police aren't the ones 1:04:20.480 --> 1:04:21.800 that need to be reformed. 1:04:21.800 --> 1:04:23.960 I don't know. I guess that's just my us. 1:04:24.120 --> 1:04:26.040 No, not in this instance of you know, one thing 1:04:26.200 --> 1:04:28.760 I want to throw out through the people have conveniently 1:04:28.800 --> 1:04:31.919 forgotten that there was a police officer during the course 1:04:31.960 --> 1:04:35.480 of the George Floyd riots in Cincinnati, Ohio who was 1:04:35.520 --> 1:04:38.520 shot at and they got a bullet bounced off his helmet. 1:04:38.600 --> 1:04:41.000 That's a story that people forget. I mean it, abu. 1:04:41.160 --> 1:04:42.920 For the grace of God, that guy could have lost 1:04:42.920 --> 1:04:45.800 his life from one of these quote unquote peaceful protesters. 1:04:45.840 --> 1:04:48.720 Someone disturbed the firearm and he was struck by the 1:04:48.720 --> 1:04:51.479 firearm and thank god he had his keplar and bounced off. 1:04:52.000 --> 1:04:54.040 So I mean, I mean, these guys were out there 1:04:54.080 --> 1:04:56.200 at all hours trying to turn to put this down. 1:04:56.600 --> 1:04:59.760 No protester that I seen was seriously injured or you know, 1:05:00.160 --> 1:05:02.479 in the course of it. So they did a phenomenal job. 1:05:02.520 --> 1:05:04.320 And the idea of the law department told him out 1:05:04.400 --> 1:05:04.880 is sick of it. 1:05:05.040 --> 1:05:07.680 Yeah, you're right, and I'm glad Cranley backed them up. Hey, 1:05:07.760 --> 1:05:10.720 we're out of time here, Steve. Always appreciate you coming on. 1:05:11.880 --> 1:05:14.160 Hey anytime, Mike, have a good Saturday, you too. 1:05:14.040 --> 1:05:14.360 Thank you. 1:05:15.520 --> 1:05:18.800 Yeah, I tell you what, police reform, Police reform, police reform. 1:05:19.000 --> 1:05:21.960 They don't need reforming. I mean, is it good that 1:05:22.000 --> 1:05:25.360 you have training for police surprising? Heck, yeah, you can't 1:05:25.400 --> 1:05:26.440 have too much training. 1:05:26.680 --> 1:05:29.840 But enough of this. Oh we need they need to reform. 1:05:30.160 --> 1:05:33.120 That's just bull crap. And I think people are getting 1:05:33.120 --> 1:05:35.880 tired of it. I know the FOP president is, And 1:05:35.920 --> 1:05:37.720 by the way, I'm going to try to get him 1:05:37.760 --> 1:05:40.480 on for next Saturday. Hey, we got to take a break. 1:05:40.480 --> 1:05:40.680 Butt. 1:05:40.720 --> 1:05:43.760 When we get back, we're gonna talk to Janis Heisel 1:05:44.080 --> 1:05:47.480 she filed another story I think yesterday with the situation 1:05:47.800 --> 1:05:51.320 in Minnesota. And I'll just say it again, she was 1:05:51.360 --> 1:05:55.440 recognized by none other than the former Speaker of the House, 1:05:55.560 --> 1:05:57.360 Nuke Gangritch for her reporting. 1:05:57.640 --> 1:05:59.440 We'll talk to Janis when we get back. 1:06:04.640 --> 1:06:08.320 This radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen an hour three 1:06:08.760 --> 1:06:10.480 of Saturday midday. 1:06:11.600 --> 1:06:14.800 Well, i'll tell you what. The story out. 1:06:14.560 --> 1:06:19.120 In Minnesota just keeps on coming. And the reporter who 1:06:19.640 --> 1:06:22.920 was commended by none other than new Gingridge for her 1:06:23.040 --> 1:06:26.040 reporting on that, she's got a new story out. 1:06:26.080 --> 1:06:27.240 We're going to ask her about it. 1:06:27.400 --> 1:06:31.640 I'm talking, of course about Jameis Heisel of the Epoch Times. Jamis, 1:06:31.640 --> 1:06:34.520 how are you doing well? 1:06:34.520 --> 1:06:37.520 But cap dancer as fast as I can about Minnesota. 1:06:38.280 --> 1:06:40.760 I hear you, I hear you. You know, and you 1:06:40.840 --> 1:06:44.320 did follow that story. It looks like on Wednesday police. Oh, 1:06:44.360 --> 1:06:47.200 I'm going to get to that later. Oversight Committee probes 1:06:47.360 --> 1:06:51.840 alleged cover up of massive Minnesota welfare fraud kind of 1:06:51.920 --> 1:06:55.080 updates the story. Can you kind of run down what's 1:06:55.120 --> 1:06:56.560 happened since we talked last? 1:06:57.800 --> 1:07:04.120 Yeah, So the House Oversight Committee, which is a fairly powerful, 1:07:04.360 --> 1:07:09.200 you know, very powerful committee of Congress has now notified 1:07:09.280 --> 1:07:13.600 both the governor and the Attorney General of Minnesota that 1:07:14.200 --> 1:07:18.120 they are demanding some records, a lot of records to 1:07:18.200 --> 1:07:21.160 be handed over by December seventeenth, to try to get 1:07:21.200 --> 1:07:23.400 to the bottom of how in the world was this 1:07:23.560 --> 1:07:26.920 allowed to go on with so much fraud happening. 1:07:28.200 --> 1:07:28.880 Right under their. 1:07:28.760 --> 1:07:32.400 Noses, and especially because according to the letter sent by 1:07:32.800 --> 1:07:36.040 the chair of that committee, James Comer, he's saying that 1:07:36.320 --> 1:07:41.920 there are credible reports from whistleblowers alleging that they tried 1:07:42.000 --> 1:07:45.760 to bring out the problems, just bring them to light, 1:07:46.400 --> 1:07:50.040 and there was actually, they say, a cover up of it. 1:07:50.520 --> 1:07:55.000 They were telling they were telling these people in Congress 1:07:55.040 --> 1:07:59.360 that you know and others that this has just been 1:07:59.600 --> 1:08:02.720 ridiculu was with the amount of information that has been 1:08:03.280 --> 1:08:06.680 held from the public. And also they're alleging that some 1:08:07.600 --> 1:08:11.960 things were destroyed. I don't know what those things are allegedly, 1:08:12.200 --> 1:08:15.120 but that those are some of the allegations that the 1:08:16.120 --> 1:08:18.639 Oversight Committee is trying to get to the bottom of. Now, 1:08:18.760 --> 1:08:24.480 what my story does not cover are some additional developments. Okay, 1:08:24.680 --> 1:08:29.519 so the Small Business Administration of the federal government has. 1:08:29.360 --> 1:08:32.080 Also launched its own investigation. 1:08:32.160 --> 1:08:38.040 And according to Kelly Lossler, who heads that department, they 1:08:38.120 --> 1:08:44.120 found a million dollars within two days of fraud related 1:08:44.160 --> 1:08:48.760 to pandemic relief through the Small Business Administration from Minnesota. 1:08:49.280 --> 1:08:50.799 And then in addition to that. 1:08:52.040 --> 1:08:55.639 The Medicaid I forget its exact title, but Mehmet Oz 1:08:55.680 --> 1:08:58.640 who ran for Senate but is now the head of 1:08:58.680 --> 1:09:01.759 the Medicaid Services for Department. 1:09:02.080 --> 1:09:05.920 I don't remember the exact name without looking, but he is. 1:09:06.040 --> 1:09:10.400 Also he's also put Governor Tim Walt on notice saying, look, 1:09:10.479 --> 1:09:15.320 here are we are clamping down on restrictions of Medicaid 1:09:15.320 --> 1:09:19.240 money coming to Minnesota. He commended the governor for putting 1:09:19.320 --> 1:09:22.519 a halt on fourteen what they call at risk programs, 1:09:22.520 --> 1:09:26.599 which I have mentioned in a previous story. But he's 1:09:26.760 --> 1:09:29.679 basically saying, look, if if we're not satisfied with what's 1:09:29.720 --> 1:09:31.600 going on there, and we want you to check in 1:09:31.640 --> 1:09:33.880 with us more frequently, we're going to be cutting off 1:09:33.880 --> 1:09:35.479 Medicaid money to state. 1:09:36.080 --> 1:09:38.040 So it's coming. 1:09:37.800 --> 1:09:42.240 At Minnesota from multiple multiple fronts, and I am actually 1:09:42.280 --> 1:09:44.799 going there to do some on the ground reporting. 1:09:44.840 --> 1:09:45.600 I've been speaking on. 1:09:45.600 --> 1:09:47.519 The phone with a lot of people, but you know, 1:09:47.560 --> 1:09:50.200 there's nothing like being there, and so I'm going to 1:09:50.240 --> 1:09:53.000 be there I don't know how many days on a 1:09:53.080 --> 1:09:57.080 reporting trip to meet with some lawmakers, with some regular folks, 1:09:57.479 --> 1:09:59.960 attend a city council meeting with that's expected to be 1:10:00.160 --> 1:10:04.400 packed with immigrant advocates who are now trying to get 1:10:04.439 --> 1:10:11.120 even more protections under that state's sanctuary sanctuary laws. And 1:10:11.160 --> 1:10:14.200 so there's just a lot going on right now and 1:10:14.640 --> 1:10:18.040 the massive scale of this. You mentioned Newt Greenridge a 1:10:18.040 --> 1:10:21.360 moment ago. He actually did a column that I think 1:10:21.520 --> 1:10:25.040 was just released yesterday saying that he believes this could 1:10:25.120 --> 1:10:29.880 turn out to be the largest fraud case in the 1:10:30.000 --> 1:10:30.880 United States ever. 1:10:31.160 --> 1:10:33.280 You know what I don't know how it doesn't, janis 1:10:33.400 --> 1:10:37.960 if what the whistleblowers are saying is even close to true. 1:10:38.120 --> 1:10:42.000 I thought I heard one yesterday yesterday say he thought 1:10:42.040 --> 1:10:44.080 it would go all the way up to six or 1:10:44.160 --> 1:10:47.320 eight billion dollars. It has to be, and it goes 1:10:47.400 --> 1:10:49.800 on underneath the nose of. 1:10:49.720 --> 1:10:52.439 These elected officials, especially the governor. 1:10:52.640 --> 1:10:55.880 It's just unreal. You know, one of your articles, janis 1:10:55.880 --> 1:10:59.519 you're reporting. I thought I read that some notice of 1:10:59.600 --> 1:11:05.120 this reached some responsible person as early as two thousand 1:11:05.160 --> 1:11:09.360 and nine or twenty and sixteen, Am I accurately reporting that. 1:11:10.600 --> 1:11:11.679 Yes, that's correct. 1:11:11.720 --> 1:11:13.799 But one thing we need to keep in mind here. 1:11:13.720 --> 1:11:15.400 Is it's not just one. 1:11:15.280 --> 1:11:16.519 Type of fraud, right. 1:11:16.720 --> 1:11:19.840 There are multiple schemes involved here. And the one that 1:11:19.880 --> 1:11:22.920 I think you're referring to that kind of raised alarm 1:11:23.000 --> 1:11:27.080 bells among the employees of the Department of Human Services 1:11:27.080 --> 1:11:32.320 there in Minnesota the welfare office was a childcare program 1:11:32.560 --> 1:11:37.040 where allegedly these people were claiming to provide childcare for 1:11:37.160 --> 1:11:40.920 children who didn't exist, and so there were a lot. 1:11:40.760 --> 1:11:41.840 Of rats that time. 1:11:43.120 --> 1:11:46.759 Yeah, and all of that got kind of clamped down 1:11:47.240 --> 1:11:49.200 because a lot of people cried racism. 1:11:48.840 --> 1:11:51.360 And there was even at least one lawsuit filed. 1:11:51.960 --> 1:11:55.080 And some courts have actually stepped in here. And in 1:11:55.240 --> 1:11:59.839 the defense of himself, Keith Ellison did give an interview. 1:12:00.000 --> 1:12:04.000 He's the ePIE in general for Minnesota. 1:12:04.120 --> 1:12:08.160 He said, look, at the state level, we've actually prosecuted 1:12:08.160 --> 1:12:12.880 several hundred people for medicaid fraud, and so in his view, 1:12:13.000 --> 1:12:16.599 they're doing quite a bit to try to fight the fraud. 1:12:17.160 --> 1:12:19.360 But that's not the view of the whistleblowers from what 1:12:19.400 --> 1:12:21.559 I've been hearing. Yeah, I haven't spoken to any of them. 1:12:21.640 --> 1:12:21.880 Yet. 1:12:22.479 --> 1:12:25.840 But I have talked to whistleblower, to the lawmakers, a 1:12:25.840 --> 1:12:28.679 couple of lawmakers who have had conversations with those people, 1:12:29.120 --> 1:12:32.600 and naturally they're afraid to speak to you know, just 1:12:32.640 --> 1:12:34.559 about anybody because they don't want to lose their jobs. 1:12:34.560 --> 1:12:36.240 But they're still trying to do the right thing and 1:12:36.280 --> 1:12:36.880 come forward. 1:12:37.160 --> 1:12:39.760 Well, and you're absolutely right about Keith Ellison. He is 1:12:39.840 --> 1:12:42.439 the attorney general and it has been for a while 1:12:42.520 --> 1:12:45.879 of that state. At what sticks in my crawl, janis 1:12:45.960 --> 1:12:49.120 is it seems like, at least in the early stage 1:12:49.200 --> 1:12:51.720 of this thing, he's kind of getting a pass. He's 1:12:51.800 --> 1:12:54.760 quoted in one of your stories. I'm telling you as 1:12:54.800 --> 1:12:58.799 an attorney general. Yeah, fraud happens, kind of offhanded remark. 1:12:59.080 --> 1:13:02.639 Then he says we should prosecute it. Yeah, hold people 1:13:02.760 --> 1:13:08.400 accountable for their individual conduct, not for their ethnicity. And 1:13:08.479 --> 1:13:09.240 we're doing that. 1:13:09.920 --> 1:13:13.720 It just I guess it seems like that is kind 1:13:13.720 --> 1:13:16.240 of the default thing when somebody thinks they're in a 1:13:16.320 --> 1:13:18.720 jam about this is Hey, wait a minute, you know 1:13:18.760 --> 1:13:20.480 this is all racially motivated? 1:13:21.000 --> 1:13:23.320 Is that what your eye? Jadra? A little bit? But 1:13:23.680 --> 1:13:25.040 is that kind of what you're finding? 1:13:26.439 --> 1:13:30.280 Well, I am hearing that a lot of the initial 1:13:30.840 --> 1:13:34.840 reports and even later reports were kind of being shut 1:13:34.960 --> 1:13:39.719 down because of fears of being labeled racist or things 1:13:39.760 --> 1:13:40.040 like that. 1:13:40.240 --> 1:13:43.200 So that's kind of. 1:13:44.640 --> 1:13:47.679 There are several other theories out there about what could 1:13:47.760 --> 1:13:51.240 really be fueling this, but that's probably the most prominent 1:13:51.240 --> 1:13:52.160 one that I've been hearing. 1:13:52.400 --> 1:13:54.920 Well, you know what, when all else fails, trot that 1:13:55.000 --> 1:13:57.599 one out. Hey, you also did a story this week 1:13:57.640 --> 1:14:00.800 police will not cooperate with ICE agents, talking of course 1:14:00.800 --> 1:14:06.479 about Minneapolis police. That comes from the Minneapolis mayor. Reading 1:14:06.479 --> 1:14:09.360 this thing, it just makes me angry, it really does. 1:14:09.439 --> 1:14:12.280 But what's the deal with that? If you could just 1:14:12.320 --> 1:14:16.080 break it down for us, Well, you. 1:14:16.040 --> 1:14:21.360 Know, the city of Minneapolis is one of the sanctuary 1:14:21.439 --> 1:14:25.839 cities that say that, you know, we won't coperate because 1:14:26.200 --> 1:14:29.800 we are trying to protect the illegal immigrants field that 1:14:30.280 --> 1:14:32.599 you know a lot of these people just start here 1:14:32.680 --> 1:14:36.559 for speaking of better life, and we don't support the 1:14:36.560 --> 1:14:40.840 federal government's crackdown on this. And actually it's one of 1:14:40.880 --> 1:14:43.960 a number of states and cities that are state cities 1:14:44.000 --> 1:14:48.280 and counties that the Trump administration is suing in court 1:14:48.880 --> 1:14:52.439 over the sanctuary policies. So we'll see how that shakes out. 1:14:52.479 --> 1:14:54.800 But that's that's in essence, what's going on here is 1:14:54.800 --> 1:15:00.400 they're kind of reiterating and doubling down on that is 1:15:00.479 --> 1:15:04.760 to you know, keep a separation, so to speak. And 1:15:04.800 --> 1:15:06.280 as a matter of fact, that's going to be a 1:15:06.320 --> 1:15:10.560 topic at a city council meeting coming up on Tuesday. 1:15:10.479 --> 1:15:11.920 That I am planning to attend. 1:15:12.080 --> 1:15:17.080 Yeah, where there the immigrant advocates are asking for even 1:15:17.160 --> 1:15:20.160 more protections. They have a stronger ordinance in regard to 1:15:20.200 --> 1:15:25.559 the sanctuary status. So that's something that I'm looking into 1:15:25.840 --> 1:15:29.599 as well. On top of that, the mayor has also 1:15:29.840 --> 1:15:32.240 issued what he says as an executive He called it 1:15:32.280 --> 1:15:36.719 an executive order that they that no one is allowed 1:15:36.720 --> 1:15:39.760 from the federal government to use city property to do 1:15:39.800 --> 1:15:44.600 any immigration operations. Which I asked a legislator about that yesterday, 1:15:45.160 --> 1:15:49.400 whether that was enforceable and like how what that would 1:15:49.400 --> 1:15:52.280 look like? And I sent sought some comments from the 1:15:53.400 --> 1:15:56.559 you know, US Department of Homeland Security on this. 1:15:56.680 --> 1:15:58.280 I haven't heard back yet, but. 1:15:58.880 --> 1:16:02.960 The lawmaker I so to characterize that as posturing, and 1:16:03.000 --> 1:16:04.960 he said that he didn't think there was any way 1:16:04.960 --> 1:16:06.479 to really enforce it, Like what are you going to do? 1:16:06.520 --> 1:16:10.519 Have local police actually arrest the ICE Asians, So that 1:16:10.640 --> 1:16:14.040 was his question. Yeah, he's not a lawyer, but it's interesting. 1:16:14.120 --> 1:16:19.519 The mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Frye, is an attorney. So 1:16:19.840 --> 1:16:20.960 just throwing this back. 1:16:20.840 --> 1:16:25.000 At you, Michael, Yeah, any what do you think. 1:16:24.880 --> 1:16:28.959 Do you think that that would be an enforceable situation 1:16:29.080 --> 1:16:32.600 with an executive order saying these federal agents. 1:16:32.240 --> 1:16:34.360 Can't use any city owned. 1:16:34.320 --> 1:16:38.200 Properties to conduct their immigration enforcements. 1:16:38.320 --> 1:16:39.519 Well, I'll tell you what, Janis. 1:16:39.560 --> 1:16:41.559 You must be reading my mind, because that's what the 1:16:41.600 --> 1:16:44.799 next thing I wanted to talk about a news conference 1:16:44.840 --> 1:16:48.240 many and this is your reporting. Minneapolis Police Chief Brian 1:16:48.280 --> 1:16:52.600 O'Hara and the mayor emphasize support for law abiding Somali's 1:16:52.600 --> 1:16:56.439 and other immigrants who hold jobs and run businesses. People 1:16:56.439 --> 1:17:01.400 who are fearful of ICE action should inform themselves about 1:17:01.400 --> 1:17:06.240 their rights, the official said O'Hara. This, janis, I never 1:17:06.280 --> 1:17:09.840 thought i'd see this. Chief O'Hara also said that his 1:17:10.040 --> 1:17:15.280 officers quote absolutely have a duty to intervene close quote 1:17:15.600 --> 1:17:19.600 if people's rights are being violated. So you know, you 1:17:19.680 --> 1:17:22.679 think in your mind's eye you kind of play that out. 1:17:23.120 --> 1:17:26.960 I mean, cop on cop, that's what we've devolved to 1:17:27.120 --> 1:17:30.519 and it's sad and an answer to you question, I 1:17:30.560 --> 1:17:33.040 don't think it would be upheld, but who knows. But 1:17:33.720 --> 1:17:36.160 I mean, is that how you're reading this? He's talking 1:17:36.200 --> 1:17:37.920 about cop on cop. 1:17:39.280 --> 1:17:42.040 Well, it does seem that way. I wasn't at that 1:17:42.120 --> 1:17:44.360 news conference and didn't have an opportunity therefore to ask 1:17:44.400 --> 1:17:47.160 a follow up question. But it's something that I would 1:17:47.240 --> 1:17:49.719 like to clarify a little bit more. But I quoted 1:17:49.720 --> 1:17:54.720 what he said, and it's just been again, one thing 1:17:54.720 --> 1:17:56.799 after another. It's really hard to kind. 1:17:56.640 --> 1:17:57.280 Of keep up with. 1:17:57.960 --> 1:18:02.479 And just we're just at the stage where we're still 1:18:02.520 --> 1:18:06.679 trying to figure out the scale of this. Yeah, let 1:18:06.680 --> 1:18:08.280 alone the causes of it. 1:18:09.200 --> 1:18:13.360 Yep, it's just and I'm telling you you know more 1:18:13.400 --> 1:18:15.960 than me about it. Something tells me this story is 1:18:15.960 --> 1:18:18.880 going to be around for a while, don't you think? 1:18:19.840 --> 1:18:20.040 Yes? 1:18:20.080 --> 1:18:24.840 And at the same time, the state of Minnesota has 1:18:25.120 --> 1:18:27.880 just come up with its budget for next year three 1:18:28.280 --> 1:18:32.719 billion with a bee in the hole whoa, And people 1:18:32.760 --> 1:18:39.200 are really Minnesotans are just a lot of them are 1:18:39.200 --> 1:18:41.200 besides themselves overall of this from. 1:18:41.120 --> 1:18:44.320 What I've been hearing and reading, Really, I mean, that's 1:18:44.400 --> 1:18:47.320 a good point. So it seems to you in the 1:18:47.360 --> 1:18:51.080 early stages of this thing that ordinary citizens are pretty 1:18:51.080 --> 1:18:52.080 fired up about this. 1:18:53.920 --> 1:18:56.679 I do think that ordinary citizens kind of knew about 1:18:56.760 --> 1:18:59.599 some of it, but it kind of fell off the radar. 1:19:00.520 --> 1:19:03.040 The one expert I interviewed who has been following this 1:19:03.200 --> 1:19:06.759 for four years. There's kind of like this big splash 1:19:06.760 --> 1:19:10.120 of publicity when there were two hundred federal Asians swooped 1:19:10.120 --> 1:19:13.040 in in early twenty twenty two from one of the scandals. 1:19:13.560 --> 1:19:16.080 Then there was like a nine month gap before anybody 1:19:16.160 --> 1:19:18.519 was charged, and so the story didn't do. 1:19:18.479 --> 1:19:21.920 What we in the business call have legs, meaning, you know. 1:19:22.080 --> 1:19:26.160 Just the one story, it's not going to stay in 1:19:26.200 --> 1:19:28.479 the news cycle. It's not going to stay in even 1:19:28.600 --> 1:19:32.559 the public's mind. People move on to other things. So 1:19:33.280 --> 1:19:37.040 you know, unless you have several stories one after another 1:19:37.200 --> 1:19:40.880 with developments, it's just not going to have legs. But boy, 1:19:41.320 --> 1:19:44.120 this thing has a lot of legs. And I want 1:19:44.120 --> 1:19:46.519 to hear I hear this Zasy top guys singing right now, 1:19:46.560 --> 1:19:50.800 she's got a less there you go. So it's been 1:19:50.880 --> 1:19:54.639 really just just I've been writing about this. I think 1:19:54.640 --> 1:19:57.040 I've done like ten stories in the last few days. 1:19:57.080 --> 1:20:00.799 On Minneapolis. In Minnesota, it's been. 1:20:02.160 --> 1:20:02.720 Just a lot. 1:20:02.760 --> 1:20:04.439 And again, some of it I haven't even had a 1:20:04.520 --> 1:20:08.320 chance to really delve into, like the small business administration, 1:20:08.600 --> 1:20:13.120 like the doctor Oz medicaid aspect of this, and so 1:20:13.640 --> 1:20:16.599 it just continues. I have really really a lot on 1:20:16.640 --> 1:20:18.640 my plate on in Minnesota. 1:20:18.800 --> 1:20:19.880 It sure seems like it. 1:20:20.360 --> 1:20:25.120 One final question, how is the city of Minneapolis? Do 1:20:25.160 --> 1:20:28.479 you like it a good city in spite of all 1:20:28.520 --> 1:20:31.120 this stuff or not? Because something tells me you're going 1:20:31.160 --> 1:20:32.519 to be spending some time there. 1:20:33.760 --> 1:20:35.720 I was kind of jake with my husband that I 1:20:35.800 --> 1:20:38.040 kind of need to run an apartment or something. But 1:20:39.160 --> 1:20:44.120 you know, Minnesota, the city of Minneapolis is really has 1:20:44.160 --> 1:20:46.559 a lot of very pretty features to it. 1:20:46.640 --> 1:20:47.439 Lots of lakes. 1:20:47.479 --> 1:20:50.680 In fact, I think they call the state, you know, 1:20:50.760 --> 1:20:52.720 the State of ten thousand Lakes or something like that. 1:20:52.760 --> 1:20:55.920 There's lakes and things everywhere, a lot of bike trails 1:20:55.960 --> 1:20:58.840 things like that. But there, I went through some of 1:20:58.880 --> 1:21:01.599 the parts too that are it's so nice and one 1:21:01.640 --> 1:21:05.719 of the biggest problems in the downtown there's a very 1:21:05.800 --> 1:21:10.360 high vacan see rate in the office towers, and some 1:21:10.439 --> 1:21:14.559 of that is related to, you know, people working from 1:21:14.600 --> 1:21:16.679 home still you know, they got used to it during 1:21:16.680 --> 1:21:17.320 the pandemic and. 1:21:17.320 --> 1:21:18.160 They're still doing it. 1:21:18.560 --> 1:21:23.439 But the other thing is this concern about crime, or 1:21:23.479 --> 1:21:26.599 at least even the perception of crime. After the George 1:21:26.600 --> 1:21:30.640 Floyd and defund the police calls there, when you have 1:21:30.800 --> 1:21:33.559 people who don't feel safe, they're not going to go 1:21:33.800 --> 1:21:36.600 into some of the Metro areas, and so there is 1:21:36.720 --> 1:21:39.160 a lot of concern about what is going to happen 1:21:39.200 --> 1:21:39.800 there with. 1:21:41.200 --> 1:21:42.639 These vacancy rates. 1:21:42.880 --> 1:21:47.280 And then it shifts the tax burden to the residential 1:21:47.520 --> 1:21:51.400 property owners. So there's a lot of moving parts to 1:21:51.439 --> 1:21:54.839 all of this, and it's really affecting ordinary people. 1:21:55.280 --> 1:21:57.560 And I'm just on the edge of really. 1:21:57.320 --> 1:22:01.520 Looking into how ordinary people are really being affected. 1:22:01.120 --> 1:22:03.120 By all of this. And it goes to show people go, 1:22:03.200 --> 1:22:03.719 I don't care. 1:22:03.640 --> 1:22:06.880 About politics, Well you need to because it affects you, 1:22:06.960 --> 1:22:08.160 whether you realize. 1:22:07.800 --> 1:22:08.160 It or not. 1:22:08.479 --> 1:22:11.120 If you know what, if a citizen is not paying 1:22:11.160 --> 1:22:13.920 attention to this story, I mean they don't have any 1:22:13.960 --> 1:22:17.439 right to complain about anything with respect to elections. That's 1:22:17.479 --> 1:22:20.640 always amazed me. Hey, we're out of time. Unfortunately, I 1:22:20.680 --> 1:22:24.240 really appreciate your coverage on this thing. Janis more importantly, 1:22:24.360 --> 1:22:28.240 your coverage that you're sharing with us. I get how 1:22:28.320 --> 1:22:30.400 lucky we are to have that, and thank you. 1:22:31.439 --> 1:22:33.000 Oh I'm fortunate to share it. 1:22:33.200 --> 1:22:36.120 I'm just glad that to have that opportunity and a 1:22:36.120 --> 1:22:39.519 great rapport with you, Mike, and wishing everybody a great 1:22:39.520 --> 1:22:41.960 holiday season. I'm hoping I will still be on maybe 1:22:41.960 --> 1:22:44.160 one more time before chrisas easily. 1:22:44.439 --> 1:22:45.960 Can I just count on it? 1:22:47.120 --> 1:22:48.439 Thank you so much, take care of it. 1:22:48.600 --> 1:22:52.639 Okay, thanks Janis. I'll tell you what. She's all over it. 1:22:52.760 --> 1:22:57.360 And the reporting has been stellar and there are, like 1:22:57.479 --> 1:23:01.599 she said, so many legs to this thing. We're gonna 1:23:01.600 --> 1:23:03.840 be talking about this, I think for a long time 1:23:03.880 --> 1:23:08.360 to come. And again the whole damn thing screams out 1:23:08.520 --> 1:23:13.440 for that word accountability. Somebody's got to be held accountable 1:23:13.479 --> 1:23:15.240 for this. Hey, we got to take a break. But 1:23:15.400 --> 1:23:19.720 when we get back open lines seven four, nine, seven, one, 1:23:19.800 --> 1:23:22.040 eight hundred, the big one are the numbers. We can 1:23:22.120 --> 1:23:24.479 talk about anything you want, So give us a call 1:23:24.800 --> 1:23:29.000 or you have to listen to me. Mike Allen, Saturday midday. 1:23:30.400 --> 1:23:33.839 My advisor at Plant Moran Wealth Management knows my definition 1:23:33.880 --> 1:23:36.639 of wealthy restoring classic cars. 1:23:37.840 --> 1:23:40.320 Minutes of same gonna get to the calls here in 1:23:40.439 --> 1:23:43.320 just a second. I did want to make an announcement. 1:23:43.800 --> 1:23:46.720 Peter Bronson a frequent guest on this show, and he's 1:23:46.760 --> 1:23:48.400 going to be again. I wanted to get him on 1:23:48.479 --> 1:23:51.719 today but ran out of space. He'll be on next week. 1:23:51.920 --> 1:23:55.080 He's out with a new book. It's called Magical History Tour, 1:23:55.600 --> 1:23:58.840 and it's a little bit different book than Peter usually does. 1:23:59.280 --> 1:24:03.639 Five shorts stories, ten places to visit in Cincinnati if 1:24:03.640 --> 1:24:07.120 you're into Cincinnati history. We're going to have him on 1:24:07.320 --> 1:24:09.880 next week to talk about it. I can't wait. I 1:24:09.960 --> 1:24:14.320 have literally written or read every book that he's done. 1:24:14.800 --> 1:24:17.000 Excellent author. I'm about a third of the way through 1:24:17.040 --> 1:24:20.400 on this one. So next week, Peter Bronson. All right, 1:24:20.520 --> 1:24:23.400 let's get to the phones, starting out with our friend 1:24:23.479 --> 1:24:26.720 Bobby Jay. 1:24:26.160 --> 1:24:29.120 Mike, thanks for taking my call. Have a great day today, 1:24:29.160 --> 1:24:30.880 and I'll make it quick. I got a couple of 1:24:30.880 --> 1:24:33.200 things i'd like to make comparisons on. If I'm may 1:24:33.920 --> 1:24:36.840 Well and I want to do this one thing. I 1:24:37.400 --> 1:24:40.439 want to be objective. I want to take away the 1:24:40.600 --> 1:24:44.000 ethnic aspect out of it. Okay, take away that up 1:24:44.080 --> 1:24:48.320 in Minnesota, take it away in Cincinnati. Okay, Okay, they 1:24:48.320 --> 1:24:52.920 are all both controlled by the democratic machine. Yeah, democratic 1:24:53.040 --> 1:24:55.880 machine that we knew in the past. It's it's full 1:24:56.360 --> 1:25:00.880 of nothing but progressive anarchist right now. So knowing that 1:25:01.080 --> 1:25:03.880 you have to think of that way, and if you 1:25:03.920 --> 1:25:06.960 take away the ethnic has spected of it, you have 1:25:07.160 --> 1:25:11.200 over seers, which is the councils. They're all controlled by 1:25:11.439 --> 1:25:16.080 Democrat mayors. They're all controlled by Democrat councils. They're overseers. 1:25:16.400 --> 1:25:18.840 People don't like to use that word because it brings 1:25:18.920 --> 1:25:22.200 up thing that has to do with ethnic persuasion right 1:25:22.360 --> 1:25:25.559 back in the eighteen fifties and everything. It's no different 1:25:25.600 --> 1:25:28.800 way it is now. Well, you control the cities just 1:25:28.880 --> 1:25:31.040 like they would a twenty first century plantation. 1:25:31.439 --> 1:25:34.000 Well, you're absolutely right about that, I mean, and it 1:25:35.120 --> 1:25:39.600 seems to me every time there's a problem, racial or whatever, 1:25:40.040 --> 1:25:43.880 it's a Democrat mayor. And you know what, that is 1:25:44.320 --> 1:25:47.839 a good comparison or a good thing to an example 1:25:47.920 --> 1:25:50.680 to make because it's sure looking that way to me. 1:25:52.000 --> 1:25:54.479 It's hard to say that because people don't want to 1:25:54.600 --> 1:25:57.400 go ahead and just be honest with themselves. It's no 1:25:57.520 --> 1:25:59.160 different this eight million dollars. 1:25:58.960 --> 1:26:01.759 Dogm that they're wanting to do for four hundred. P Wow. 1:26:01.960 --> 1:26:02.559 Figure it out. 1:26:02.640 --> 1:26:04.839 The county is only go to pay sixty eight thousand 1:26:04.880 --> 1:26:07.840 out of eight million. Yep, I mean out of four 1:26:07.880 --> 1:26:11.519 hundred people in the class action lawsuit. And go ahead 1:26:11.560 --> 1:26:14.000 and do you at eight million. Pretty nice little day, 1:26:14.120 --> 1:26:14.360 wasn't it. 1:26:14.760 --> 1:26:19.120 Sure is in my understanding why the county's portion of 1:26:19.160 --> 1:26:22.479 it is so much lower than the cities'. It just 1:26:22.760 --> 1:26:25.240 had something to do with the jail, which you know, 1:26:25.560 --> 1:26:28.160 it's not a nice place as jails go. It's okay, 1:26:28.720 --> 1:26:32.200 but that's apparently what they're saying with the county. 1:26:32.240 --> 1:26:32.680 I don't know. 1:26:33.920 --> 1:26:36.400 I got one more thing, and I'll get was there 1:26:36.439 --> 1:26:40.320 any type of charges and the federal courts for civil 1:26:40.400 --> 1:26:41.480 rights violations? 1:26:41.760 --> 1:26:42.480 No? 1:26:42.479 --> 1:26:43.720 No, no, there was not. 1:26:43.960 --> 1:26:45.200 They just none. 1:26:45.520 --> 1:26:47.920 So these people in the county just I guess they 1:26:48.000 --> 1:26:50.120 just take it upon themselves to say there were civil 1:26:50.240 --> 1:26:53.160 rights violations. There were now federal charges on anything. 1:26:53.600 --> 1:26:57.200 Yeah, I guess these did their job through negotiations that 1:26:57.280 --> 1:27:00.480 kind of thing. But I don't know, it's just it load. 1:27:00.680 --> 1:27:03.320 And you know, I had Christopher Smithman on earlier and 1:27:03.800 --> 1:27:05.920 he said, hey, you know, and again I don't know 1:27:06.000 --> 1:27:09.040 all the facts. Why wouldn't the city try the case 1:27:09.640 --> 1:27:13.719 and you know, maybe get a verdict that they're not liable. 1:27:13.800 --> 1:27:16.679 I don't know, but the way the city is throwing 1:27:16.760 --> 1:27:20.000 money away these days is just incredible. 1:27:21.960 --> 1:27:25.840 Well, thanks for taking my time, my friend, and wish 1:27:25.880 --> 1:27:27.200 you well and all the listeners. 1:27:27.280 --> 1:27:29.320 All right, thanks Bobby, Jay, appreciate it. 1:27:30.160 --> 1:27:30.720 Thank you, sir. 1:27:30.840 --> 1:27:35.120 Okay, that's a nice chunk of change, I mean for 1:27:35.240 --> 1:27:37.920 going to a peaceful demonstration. 1:27:38.320 --> 1:27:43.439 Hey, let's talk to Jeff in Xenia. Hey, good morning, Jeff, good. 1:27:43.280 --> 1:27:44.639 Morning, my great show. 1:27:44.880 --> 1:27:47.639 Hey, I just wanted to say also too, I lived 1:27:47.720 --> 1:27:49.599 up in Maine for about ten years and they had 1:27:49.640 --> 1:27:55.160 a huge Somali population. Really oh yeah, I mean at 1:27:55.160 --> 1:27:58.080 the time it was probably one of the largest in 1:27:58.120 --> 1:28:02.000 the United States before Minnesota sorted wanting it en up 1:28:02.280 --> 1:28:05.680 importing a lot. And if you got to yeah, well, 1:28:05.680 --> 1:28:08.760 if you've got to contact with Janice, the girl that 1:28:08.840 --> 1:28:11.479 we had all from epic times, you might want to 1:28:11.520 --> 1:28:15.000 mention that to her at some point because uh. 1:28:14.240 --> 1:28:14.840 You never know. 1:28:15.360 --> 1:28:18.400 Yeah, well, I mean you don't hear a lot about 1:28:18.439 --> 1:28:20.840 Maine because it's so far out of the way up 1:28:20.880 --> 1:28:24.760 there and it's such a small population. But you know, 1:28:25.400 --> 1:28:27.599 news does travel fast. From money's involved. 1:28:27.640 --> 1:28:28.679 Well, sure it does. 1:28:28.760 --> 1:28:32.639 And the community where you're talking about, are they all 1:28:32.640 --> 1:28:35.439 abiding for the most part? Uh, that kind of thing, 1:28:35.479 --> 1:28:37.639 because I never I never heard anything about it. 1:28:38.479 --> 1:28:41.120 Well they were, But when I was up there, I 1:28:41.160 --> 1:28:43.680 just found it really odd that you'd take people out 1:28:43.720 --> 1:28:47.000 of Sub Saharan Africa and bring them up to, you know, 1:28:47.040 --> 1:28:49.200 a fairly cold area because we get anywhere from two 1:28:49.240 --> 1:28:52.559 to six feet of snow up there. And uh, it 1:28:52.640 --> 1:28:54.799 was I mean they had taken over. I mean they 1:28:54.840 --> 1:28:57.639 they had a lot of businesses there everything, and I'm 1:28:57.640 --> 1:28:59.720 not sure what the numbers were, but said when I 1:28:59.760 --> 1:29:02.240 was up and I was from twenty six to sixteen 1:29:03.080 --> 1:29:05.960 at the time, it was quite a large population up there, 1:29:06.120 --> 1:29:09.200 and they had some other funny business going on to 1:29:09.320 --> 1:29:11.600 that I could talk to you off the air or 1:29:11.600 --> 1:29:13.719 get a hold of you, because there were some things 1:29:13.720 --> 1:29:18.679 going on up there that basically just got overlooked because 1:29:19.600 --> 1:29:22.120 it's just not a it's a fairly closed. 1:29:21.760 --> 1:29:22.599 Society up there. 1:29:22.720 --> 1:29:25.120 They don't like a lot of outsiders as because I 1:29:25.160 --> 1:29:27.160 was always called I was from away. I was never 1:29:27.320 --> 1:29:30.760 considered a maner. I was always from away, okay, And 1:29:31.600 --> 1:29:31.920 it's just. 1:29:31.920 --> 1:29:32.720 The way things work. 1:29:32.800 --> 1:29:35.559 Up there, but it might be something she might if 1:29:35.640 --> 1:29:37.240 I mean, not that she needs a little more work 1:29:37.280 --> 1:29:39.320 to do, but it might be something she puts on 1:29:39.360 --> 1:29:41.400 her radar at some point, because you never know. 1:29:41.680 --> 1:29:45.480 I will definitely definitely tell her that. And I appreciate 1:29:45.520 --> 1:29:46.280 you filling us in. 1:29:46.439 --> 1:29:48.439 Jeff, Hey, have a great day, Mike. 1:29:48.520 --> 1:29:53.439 Okay, you too, Thank you. All right, let's go to Fred. Hey, Fred, 1:29:53.680 --> 1:29:57.080 Hey morning, thanks for good morning. Good morning. 1:29:57.120 --> 1:30:01.640 Hey. I appreciate you taking my call. Great show is 1:30:01.720 --> 1:30:02.400 always you have. 1:30:02.439 --> 1:30:06.160 Fantastic people on and you really hit the important things. 1:30:06.640 --> 1:30:08.040 And the only thing to me. 1:30:08.080 --> 1:30:11.320 That makes it all make sense is that this is 1:30:11.520 --> 1:30:17.120 just another tentacle of an organized crime organization that is 1:30:17.160 --> 1:30:19.280 simply looking for every different way. 1:30:19.120 --> 1:30:20.599 It can to skim money. 1:30:21.120 --> 1:30:24.200 The whole sexcapades and everything else going on with that 1:30:24.600 --> 1:30:26.840 is simply to keep people in line and to keep 1:30:26.840 --> 1:30:30.560 them interested. But everything goes back to money in Minnesota, 1:30:30.920 --> 1:30:34.679 in Cincinnati and everything behind the scenes. They're simply trying 1:30:34.720 --> 1:30:37.320 to find a new way to skim every moment of it. 1:30:37.360 --> 1:30:39.479 And the only way it makes sense is that that's 1:30:39.520 --> 1:30:44.719 a conspiracy to further these things, and the other rest 1:30:44.760 --> 1:30:47.920 of it is simply to keep you look in other places. 1:30:48.240 --> 1:30:51.599 Oh it's racial. Oh it's this, Oh it's that, It isn't. 1:30:51.640 --> 1:30:54.280 The Only thing it is is money. How do we 1:30:54.320 --> 1:30:56.720 take it? How do we get more power? How do 1:30:56.800 --> 1:30:57.839 we take more money? 1:30:58.160 --> 1:30:58.360 Well? 1:30:58.400 --> 1:31:00.280 You know what I think, is this thing goes on, 1:31:00.680 --> 1:31:03.479 You're probably right they'll find some kind of organized crime 1:31:03.840 --> 1:31:07.160 aspect to it. Maybe not their traditional mafia, I doubt that, 1:31:07.360 --> 1:31:11.960 but this thing screams out to be in federal court, 1:31:12.439 --> 1:31:14.960 not state court, which I guess some of them were 1:31:15.280 --> 1:31:18.640 initially put there. I hope, and I think at some 1:31:18.760 --> 1:31:20.840 point it'll end up in federal court. 1:31:21.840 --> 1:31:24.519 Well, look at the Cincinnati thing with this payoff that 1:31:24.560 --> 1:31:28.479 they're making right now. Goodness, well that makes a whole 1:31:28.479 --> 1:31:31.280 lot of sense, though when you make it a national 1:31:31.360 --> 1:31:36.439 situation with the elections coming up this coming year, and 1:31:36.439 --> 1:31:39.639 that they need these people back on the street causing trouble. 1:31:40.000 --> 1:31:40.760 So this is a. 1:31:40.720 --> 1:31:44.080 Perfect way to pay them off. You got four hundred 1:31:44.560 --> 1:31:47.960 experienced rioters that are now going to have pockets full 1:31:48.000 --> 1:31:51.080 of money, and when they're called to come out in 1:31:51.760 --> 1:31:55.040 the summer and start causing trouble again, they're going to 1:31:55.120 --> 1:31:57.599 do it willingly, thinking they're going to get paid off again. 1:31:57.760 --> 1:32:00.400 Well, they got job experience at that point. Right. 1:32:00.760 --> 1:32:03.439 I've read a number of things where not all of them, 1:32:03.439 --> 1:32:06.639 but a great number of these protesters are being paid 1:32:06.680 --> 1:32:08.320 by someone. 1:32:08.640 --> 1:32:13.040 Oh there's no question about it, and I know that 1:32:13.200 --> 1:32:17.320 for a fact. Well, but they are most certainly getting 1:32:17.360 --> 1:32:20.439 paid off. And that's what the whole thing is. It's 1:32:20.840 --> 1:32:24.040 it isn't the traditional mafia, you know, it is the 1:32:24.080 --> 1:32:27.400 elusive deep state. And the more you produce for that, 1:32:27.560 --> 1:32:30.840 the more you're the more you're capo's and everybody else 1:32:30.880 --> 1:32:34.160 above you will will appreciate you being a good earner. 1:32:34.720 --> 1:32:38.080 It's the same thing as the mafia, but it's just 1:32:39.040 --> 1:32:41.559 you know, it's controlled nationally, and that's what's going on 1:32:41.680 --> 1:32:44.559 with the Somalis. It's what's going on with everybody. But 1:32:44.640 --> 1:32:49.560 if you if you keep pointing your finger at racism, racism, homophobe, 1:32:49.920 --> 1:32:54.599 it just is done to keep more smoke and mirrors going. 1:32:54.800 --> 1:32:59.000 Well, I'll tell you I appreciate the call, Fred, appreciate 1:32:59.040 --> 1:33:00.000 you taking Okay. 1:33:00.400 --> 1:33:04.720 Yeah, he talked about screaming racism. What's that, Sally, there's 1:33:04.720 --> 1:33:08.559 a saying it's the last vestige of a scoundrel. Just 1:33:08.600 --> 1:33:13.240 to throw that out. It's lost virtually all of its meaning. 1:33:13.680 --> 1:33:16.240 And it's a shame because I believe there are real 1:33:16.400 --> 1:33:21.120 racists in the world, and some in this country, of 1:33:21.280 --> 1:33:25.599 both races, but so minute in number. 1:33:26.280 --> 1:33:31.880 It's just, you know, nobody gets anywhere piggybacking on that. Maybe, oh, 1:33:32.120 --> 1:33:35.800 islamophobe that might have a little bit more cachet to it, 1:33:36.000 --> 1:33:38.240 who knows. I don't care what they call me. Hey, 1:33:38.320 --> 1:33:42.880 let's talk to Tony in Westchester. Thank you, Mike for 1:33:43.040 --> 1:33:47.360 taking my call, my pleasure, and then you do put. 1:33:47.240 --> 1:33:51.600 On a grand, I mean grand show, and all. 1:33:51.680 --> 1:33:55.640 The people that's called in I feel. 1:33:57.600 --> 1:33:58.880 Lower than them. 1:33:59.080 --> 1:34:01.439 I don't know why, all right, because I'm just a 1:34:01.560 --> 1:34:02.439 simple man. 1:34:03.160 --> 1:34:03.439 Yep. 1:34:05.280 --> 1:34:08.240 No, I appreciate that, and I appreciate the call too, Tony, 1:34:08.360 --> 1:34:12.439 thank you. I don't know where to Tony's called before, 1:34:12.800 --> 1:34:14.960 great guy, but I just don't know where he was 1:34:15.000 --> 1:34:15.599 going on that. 1:34:15.920 --> 1:34:20.200 Hey, let's talk to Kate. Hey, Kate, how you doing. 1:34:21.080 --> 1:34:24.200 I'm doing okay. I just want to know where do 1:34:24.320 --> 1:34:28.040 I sign up to start my class action suit from 1:34:28.280 --> 1:34:34.880 twenty twenty. Because I watched the Democrats in Lockstep, bow 1:34:34.960 --> 1:34:38.920 and scrape in front of the Zolensky promised to send money. 1:34:38.680 --> 1:34:40.439 Everywhere, but to the US. 1:34:41.080 --> 1:34:43.960 I felt threatened by a president who came onto the 1:34:44.200 --> 1:34:47.840 television saying that they were losing their patients because we 1:34:47.840 --> 1:34:52.439 weren't taking the vaccine that was misrepresented and full of 1:34:52.560 --> 1:34:57.519 holes as far as even biological accuracy. 1:34:57.760 --> 1:34:59.160 And that's coming out now. 1:35:00.640 --> 1:35:05.320 I am feeling, like, you know, I've got revisiting post 1:35:05.320 --> 1:35:06.960 traumatic stress at this point. 1:35:07.680 --> 1:35:08.880 I've never up. 1:35:08.840 --> 1:35:12.960 Until then, bought a gun. I bought weapons, I bought ammo. 1:35:13.600 --> 1:35:17.840 I'm in a peaceful Midwestern suburb, and I was concerned 1:35:17.880 --> 1:35:21.680 that these blm peaceful protest rioters were going to be 1:35:21.720 --> 1:35:25.360 coming into our neighborhoods dragging us out of our houses. 1:35:26.439 --> 1:35:27.880 Who do I go see about this? 1:35:28.040 --> 1:35:31.559 I am just thinking about it, and I'm so angry 1:35:31.800 --> 1:35:34.080 for what they put me through. There's got to be 1:35:34.120 --> 1:35:35.360 other people feeling this. 1:35:35.320 --> 1:35:38.320 Way, and I understand that too, And I don't put 1:35:38.320 --> 1:35:41.200 anything past anybody or any group anymore. 1:35:41.560 --> 1:35:43.880 I mean, you know, it's kind of a wild West 1:35:43.920 --> 1:35:46.519 out there. As far as a legal basis for it. 1:35:46.479 --> 1:35:50.320 I don't know that you have that yet, but a 1:35:50.400 --> 1:35:53.160 lot of people are thinking like you're thinking, Kate. 1:35:55.240 --> 1:35:56.559 I would love to. 1:35:57.000 --> 1:35:59.560 Stay in touch with that Mike, I appreciate your programs 1:35:59.560 --> 1:36:02.639 and thank you for taking my call. I just revisit 1:36:02.920 --> 1:36:07.760 those theoretical or supposed lawmakers in DC at that time, 1:36:08.680 --> 1:36:12.800 and the whole sums up to theater, the word that 1:36:12.880 --> 1:36:16.679 started being used, and it was all theater. They nearly 1:36:16.800 --> 1:36:21.240 ruined the country. They you know, when Trump was in 1:36:21.280 --> 1:36:24.439 the first time, they undermined him at every turn. 1:36:24.680 --> 1:36:24.920 Yep. 1:36:25.920 --> 1:36:29.200 Well nobody seems to. It doesn't come up very much anymore. 1:36:29.240 --> 1:36:32.080 Nobody revisits and says, excuse me, remember all this crap 1:36:32.160 --> 1:36:32.960 they put us through. 1:36:33.400 --> 1:36:35.880 Yeah, I know, And you know what, I'm glad you 1:36:36.000 --> 1:36:36.360 said that. 1:36:36.760 --> 1:36:39.640 You're right, because I think the average voter has a 1:36:39.720 --> 1:36:44.360 damn short memory, you know, and Trump can be abrasive 1:36:44.400 --> 1:36:48.240 and he can't you know, honk people off. Look at 1:36:48.280 --> 1:36:52.920 the results though, look at the results. But people have 1:36:52.960 --> 1:36:55.160 a short memory, especially people that go to vote. 1:36:56.400 --> 1:36:57.400 Maybe we made a. 1:36:57.400 --> 1:37:01.840 Video compilation of Nancy tearing up his speech, of her 1:37:02.160 --> 1:37:07.280 sarcastic little clap, undermining him, trying to impeach him. Yep, 1:37:07.800 --> 1:37:11.800 the whole Biden crime family, you know, on and on. 1:37:12.040 --> 1:37:14.080 You know where I'm going. It just needs to be 1:37:14.280 --> 1:37:17.759 got up in a nice video compumation to remind people. 1:37:17.840 --> 1:37:19.160 I get it, Kate, Hey, I got to go. 1:37:19.200 --> 1:37:21.519 I got one more caller, I gotta get in uh 1:37:21.640 --> 1:37:24.400 SETI in Columbus. Hey, thanks for hanging in there with us. 1:37:24.479 --> 1:37:26.680 What you got and you got to be quick. Unfortunately, 1:37:27.680 --> 1:37:28.200 all right. 1:37:28.080 --> 1:37:28.960 Mike, real quick. 1:37:29.160 --> 1:37:30.200 Uh. 1:37:29.960 --> 1:37:34.719 The Somali investigation in Minnesota needs to needs to boil 1:37:34.760 --> 1:37:39.120 over into Columbus where we have a extremely an extremely 1:37:39.200 --> 1:37:40.960 large population of Somali's. 1:37:41.400 --> 1:37:44.360 Somebody told me that it's. 1:37:44.200 --> 1:37:47.120 I'm telling you, Mike, and our governor yesterday disappointed me 1:37:47.240 --> 1:37:50.080 yet again. He got on he made a a I 1:37:50.080 --> 1:37:52.400 guess it was a press release or something, and he 1:37:52.479 --> 1:37:55.160 didn't say, Ohio is looking into it or anything. 1:37:55.200 --> 1:37:56.080 He just said. 1:37:57.360 --> 1:38:00.559 Our Somali population are all good people or something like that. 1:38:00.960 --> 1:38:03.439 And I'm not I'm not doubting that. I'm just saying, 1:38:03.880 --> 1:38:06.320 if they're looking at one city, they need to look 1:38:06.360 --> 1:38:09.919 at all the cities and and see if this problem, 1:38:10.240 --> 1:38:12.759 which is did I hear you correctly? 1:38:12.840 --> 1:38:14.080 Eight billion with a beat? 1:38:14.200 --> 1:38:16.559 Well that's what That's what some of the one at 1:38:16.640 --> 1:38:20.000 least one whistleblower is saying. It could get up to 1:38:21.000 --> 1:38:25.160 six to eight billion, which is just astounding. 1:38:25.240 --> 1:38:27.519 That and imagine you put that in two or three 1:38:27.560 --> 1:38:29.920 other cities, and you know there's going to be more. 1:38:30.439 --> 1:38:30.639 Uh. 1:38:30.880 --> 1:38:31.960 That's I don't know. 1:38:32.040 --> 1:38:35.400 My I hope Ohio, I hope Governor de Wine or 1:38:35.439 --> 1:38:38.439 whoever is looking. I guess it's the FEDS that are looking. 1:38:38.479 --> 1:38:38.960 I hope they. 1:38:39.400 --> 1:38:41.120 I hope they looking at their Columbus. 1:38:41.200 --> 1:38:44.240 Well, I think we're at the tip of the iceberg. 1:38:44.280 --> 1:38:47.519 I appreciate the call. I gotta get going, though, Buddy, Okay, 1:38:48.080 --> 1:38:48.639 you know what. 1:38:50.040 --> 1:38:53.040 This thing, you know, as Jannis said, it's got legs 1:38:53.080 --> 1:38:55.960 and we haven't heard the last of this by any 1:38:56.000 --> 1:38:58.920 stretch of the imagination. Hey, I'm out of time, which 1:38:58.960 --> 1:39:02.640 means I'm out out here. Mike Allens seven hundred WLW