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Speaker 1: What's going on to Tommy Radio, because this is worthy

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Speaker 1: of a little back and forth. Tom What do you

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Speaker 1: think Belichick eight in the Hall of Fame at the

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Speaker 1: first go? It took a long time, but I feel

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Speaker 1: a price finally got paid for Spygate and the flight gate.

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Speaker 2: It's absurd he should be in. But I kind of

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Speaker 3: I kind of get it too, and I do find

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Speaker 3: it hilarious first and foremost, like that's the first thing

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Speaker 3: that comes to mind that I think it's hilarious that

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Speaker 3: this is happening to him. There are no doubt that

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Speaker 3: there are holes in his resume that you can attack,

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Speaker 3: and they're big ones because they're cheating. But at the

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Speaker 3: same time, I probably would have voted him in. I

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Speaker 3: would have checked that box. Six time Super Bowl champion.

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Speaker 3: He's one of the best coaches ever, even with the cheating.

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Speaker 2: Well, I am consistent my thinking.

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Speaker 1: I would have voted for Bonds and Clemens on the

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Speaker 1: first time with the Baseball Hall of Fame ballot.

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Speaker 2: I would have voted for Belichick in this instance.

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Speaker 1: Again, Bonds cheated but never got caught, never funked the

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Speaker 1: stairway test. Clemens never funked the Steirer. Belichick got caught cheating,

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Speaker 1: got punished for it, at least the franchise did draft

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Speaker 1: picks or whatnot. And people are saying it's not the

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Speaker 1: same thing. Isn't it the same thing?

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Speaker 2: Tom?

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Speaker 3: I think it's exactly the same thing, and it just

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Speaker 3: it reeks of inconsistency with people that have the takes

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Speaker 3: that this is egregious that Belichick isn't in, but that

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Speaker 3: it's right for what the Baseball Hall of Fame is

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Speaker 3: doing to guys like Bonds and Clements. It's it's cut

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Speaker 3: and dry to me as far as it being the

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Speaker 3: same thing cheating or not. Is it good in all

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Speaker 3: of sports? What you can't pick and choose, like what

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Speaker 3: sport you can cheat in and what sport that doesn't

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Speaker 3: fly with it has to be blanket.

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Speaker 1: All the Halls of Fame need a major reset because

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Speaker 1: they've become bland and boring, no doubt, and lacking so

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Speaker 1: many people who deserve to be in there. I've always said,

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Speaker 1: you could take a lineup with the people who should

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Speaker 1: best players who are.

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Speaker 2: In the Baseball Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: That would actually be a fun thing to do with,

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Speaker 1: like APPA baseball or stratumatic or something like that. Play

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Speaker 1: a best of seven, best of nine, best of eleven. Heck,

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Speaker 1: play a whole one hundred and six two game season,

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Speaker 1: and I bet the results would be close. Uh does

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Speaker 1: it matter who didn't vote for Belichick because there's this

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Speaker 1: great call to out them, and I guess Ice pays

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Speaker 4: I saw.

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Speaker 3: Bill Pollion was like the first person that people attacked

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Speaker 3: because they figured he'd be the petty one, right, you know,

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Speaker 3: his time with the Colts and stuff like that's name

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Speaker 3: brought up to Colts again, right.

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Speaker 2: Well, self righteous, pious, hypocrite.

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Speaker 1: There are very few people I can't stand more than

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Speaker 3: But it's funny that Bill Bulliot Pollyon has come out

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Speaker 3: with statements being like, no, it wasn't me, Like I

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Speaker 3: wasn't someone leading the band to keep Belichick out of

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Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame in the first ballot, And it's

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Speaker 3: like that kind of makes me think it was you, Bill,

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Speaker 3: that you were the you know, the baton leader out

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Speaker 3: the front saying like this guy cheating, Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 3: We're gonna put him in on the first ballot and

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Speaker 3: reward him for that. So I don't know it's it

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Speaker 3: is it is. I don't need to know who are

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind knowing that. I don't think there's an obligation.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 1: I'd rather them hide behind the mast and those those

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Speaker 1: and and have some kind of verbal retribution, social media

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Speaker 3: Especially with what you said about how the Hall of Fames,

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Speaker 3: they've all just become so watered down now that it

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Speaker 1: Look at the baseball geeks, because they have backed themselves

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Speaker 2: You've got Carlos Beltran and Andrew Jones.

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Speaker 1: Nobody remembers one thing they did, except maybe with Beltran,

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Speaker 1: who was part of the cheating in Eustace exactly with

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Speaker 4: It's that's very ironic. But do you think with the

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Speaker 1: David Ortiz got in despite having wasn't that that's that

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Speaker 1: survey test which didn't count, but he still took ped.

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Speaker 3: That's more than Bonds ever flung. I mean, Bond's never

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Speaker 2: You know, What's I want to go about this too.

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Speaker 1: Belichick really cares like he's a bigotball history junkie. He's

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Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame supporter and believer. I think Barry

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Speaker 1: but but like I think Belichick, I think this really

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Speaker 2: And you know what, that's okay by me.

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Speaker 4: Again, I think it is kind of hilarious.

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Speaker 1: And then did Jimmy Johnson thing, Well, well, you know

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Speaker 1: I did it. Everybody you know did spygate type of stuff. Okay,

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Speaker 2: The Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: Jimmy Johnson, you mean, yeah, pull yourself out of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And just because everybody did it doesn't mean it's okay.

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Speaker 3: Ever, And again, it's not like Belichick's never going to

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Speaker 1: I mean, if I would bet on Belichick getting in

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Speaker 1: but Barry never got in, Clemens never good. But again,

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Speaker 1: and tell me why, Tom, Why is baseball holy ground

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Speaker 2: Like Merril HODGSONI and God knows.

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Speaker 1: Like I said on the DV Morning Show, I looked

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Speaker 1: you're not trying. Why is that okay in football?

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Speaker 4: I don't know why.

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Speaker 3: There's a disconnect with a lot of people where like

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Speaker 2: Then, Hey, I wrote a call. I mean, I'm proud

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Speaker 1: I wrote a calm in the middle of the McGuire

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Speaker 2: But I wrote a column.

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Speaker 1: For The Post Gazette back then in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the McGuire Sosa thing, Hey, you know these guys are

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Speaker 1: Sammy Sosa. Yes, And they knew, and they ignored it

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Speaker 1: And now I'm looking at these guys next up at

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Speaker 1: I think he just kind of shook his head wearily

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Speaker 2: Tom. You know, I feel bad for more than Belichick.

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Speaker 1: Certainly, they announced the class that does get in on

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Speaker 1: feb five, and those will be overshadowed by the fuss

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Speaker 2: That's what I feel sorry about.

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Speaker 3: You already kind of feel like they've been overshadowed because

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Speaker 3: when I saw this news break yesterday, I went to

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Speaker 4: Oh, that's right. They didn't announce it yet.

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Speaker 3: So like this has already just become the story when

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Speaker 3: it comes to the Hall of Fame class. So you're right,

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Speaker 3: whoever gets in is just gonna kind of be like

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Speaker 1: On the other hand, fam Uh you think Pollan's line

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Speaker 1: or did Polan have a vote? I think so, yes,

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Speaker 1: they don't publicly. How about how about somebody is making

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Speaker 1: a list of all the people who go on Twitter

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Speaker 1: saying that I did vote for Belichick and thus trying

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Speaker 1: to you know, by compilation out who didn't vote. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 4: I don't care about that. It just doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: Again, like I think he's gonna get in the Hall

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Speaker 3: you said, he reaps what he sewed. He opened himself

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Speaker 3: up to get this little punishment by cheating twice.

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Speaker 4: Now he's getting it.

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Speaker 1: I like some of the parody tweets though, like Ryan

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Speaker 1: Leaf tweeted, I didn't vote for Belichick and here's why.

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Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, wait a minute, he doesn't have a vote,

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Speaker 2: But the tweet was funny.

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Speaker 1: And then uh jbl the wrestler John Bradshaw Wayfield, he

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Speaker 1: said he didn't vote for Belichick because he didn't draft

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Speaker 2: And then he put President's Then again, nobody else did either.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you, this has the embarrassment of Belichick

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Speaker 3: recently since exiting the NFL, influenced anybody who checks those

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Speaker 3: boxes and makes those votes. What he's doing with the girlfriend,

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Speaker 3: I don't don't think that that's been involved at all.

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Speaker 1: Even though no, I think, for one thing, how he's

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Speaker 1: done in North Carolina doesn't diminish what he did. I

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Speaker 1: don't think so. And New England, and I think most

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Speaker 1: of those Hall of Fame voters are dirty old men

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Speaker 1: who were jealous of Bill. Okay, so maybe they're jealous

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Speaker 1: of them. No first ballot for you, because he got

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Speaker 1: the young girl.

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Speaker 2: One five ninety X.

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Speaker 4: It's the mark man who for Gasha one DX.

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Speaker 1: You've got Stuart Skinner, the Penguins goalie at the bottom

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Speaker 1: We heard Bubba Ventrone, who's local. He's a shar Tiers

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Speaker 1: Bring sterritory in special advisor. Oh yes, how do not

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Speaker 4: That's the big problem here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's a bad hit. It was shouldered head.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there was malice intended, but maybe malice

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Speaker 4: But as you said at the end of the last segment, FM, no, Rock.

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Speaker 1: I have some news that I have to ask you

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Speaker 1: some tough questions. We'll get a yes or no on

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Speaker 1: after retirement that last week, just a couple of weeks

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Speaker 1: Keith Winger said that they would only book big money shows,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going there because it's Decatur, Illinois. But they

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Speaker 1: look and sound the best of all the heritage bands

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Speaker 1: or no on all this.

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Speaker 2: Since I've lost weight, do I look older? No, You're

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Speaker 2: a liar. Do you think I'm finally going bald?

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Speaker 6: Is my here?

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Speaker 2: You said that awful quick one O five Stewart Skinner

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Speaker 2: up next one oh five to nine.

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Speaker 7: Tomorrow nights the Pen's face off against the black Hawks.

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Speaker 7: Game time seven. Our coverage starts at six here every

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Speaker 7: game and the best coverage right here on your home

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Speaker 4: Everyone says time is money.

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Speaker 2: Time is not money.

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Speaker 4: Money is better than time.

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Speaker 1: My guest right now has been a major catalyst since

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Speaker 1: arriving via trade from Edmonton seven and one in his

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Speaker 1: in goal for the Penguins. He is Stuart Skinner. First off, Stuve,

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining me. You gotta be happy with what

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Speaker 4: It's still proof.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it works well, it works well, it's no. I'm

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Speaker 1: Well, what was your first thought, first thoughts to what

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, not much goes through just because I

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Speaker 5: So yeah, when it happened, Honestly, the only thing I

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Speaker 5: So, you know, being able to obviously win all four

440
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Speaker 5: is huge, especially.

441
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Speaker 6: In the standings. You know, it's it's really tight out east.

442
00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,360
Speaker 6: So yeah, we definitely needed it.

443
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Speaker 5: And you know, this group again, just the commitment that details,

444
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Speaker 5: you know, everything that gets into it. It's a lot

445
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Speaker 5: of a lot of hard work, especially going out west,

446
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Speaker 5: and it's it's pretty amazing what we were able to do.

447
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Speaker 1: We disappointed not to get the start at Edmonton and

448
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Speaker 1: already didn't get to start at Vancouver either, where he

449
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Speaker 1: came from.

450
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Speaker 5: Yeah no, you know again, it's just how things played out,

451
00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,639
Speaker 5: and you know, we we wanted to make sure that

452
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,040
Speaker 5: we were doing things to give our team, you know,

453
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Speaker 5: the best chance to win.

454
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Speaker 1: So and certainly either of you left either place on

455
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,960
Speaker 1: bad terms. It's not like it was a grudge match.

456
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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, for sure, Yeah, no, nobody left on bad terms.

457
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 5: It was all uh, it was all good.

458
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Speaker 6: You know.

459
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Speaker 5: I already had a great time in Van, I had

460
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Speaker 5: a great simon Edmonton and again and just.

461
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Speaker 6: The move and everything.

462
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Speaker 5: It's yeah, it's kind of just all part of the game.

463
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Speaker 5: And again I think how it ended up. You know,

464
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Speaker 5: I'm obviously happy without.

465
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Speaker 6: Ended up because you know, we were able to win

466
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Speaker 6: all four games.

467
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Speaker 1: We're talking to Stuart Skinner the Penguins here on the

468
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Speaker 1: Home of the Penguins one oh five nine the X.

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Speaker 1: Stu let me ask you to be self analytical. What

470
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Speaker 1: makes you good when you're playing well? What things do

471
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Speaker 1: you try to emphasizing.

472
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Speaker 5: Goal Yeah, that's a great question, I think. I think

473
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Speaker 5: for me, I think I'm more of a structured goalie,

474
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 5: more technical, So I think for me it's kind of

475
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 5: the same thing as the team.

476
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Speaker 6: You know, when things aren't going.

477
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Speaker 5: Well or you know, when things kind of get chaotic

478
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,120
Speaker 5: on the ice, just trying to stay within your structure.

479
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 5: So for me, I could talk to you, you know,

480
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 5: for two hours about the goalie the goalie technical side,

481
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 5: but I'm sure that would bore you and a lot

482
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Speaker 5: of people. So I think to make the answer easy,

483
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Speaker 5: you know, just staying within my structure and staying within

484
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Speaker 5: my game that I know how to play.

485
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Speaker 1: One thing I've noticed is you deal really well with

486
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Speaker 1: traffic at the Blue Paint what's the key to that

487
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Speaker 1: aside from just being six foot four.

488
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Speaker 6: Well, being six foot four helps a lot, but there

489
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Speaker 6: there are some big.

490
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Speaker 5: Boys in this league that that get in front of us.

491
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:05,159
Speaker 5: You know, is a very challenging, challenging part as a goalie.

492
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 5: You know, no matter how tall you are, no matter

493
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 5: how small you are, you know, there's different ways to

494
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 5: look around guys. So it really depends on the scenario,

495
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 5: the situation, how many guys are in front. I'm obviously

496
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 5: not perfect at it. I've let many many goals against

497
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Speaker 5: on traffic plays, but yeah, I've made it a point

498
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Speaker 5: of emphasis, especially coming into this season, to you know,

499
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Speaker 5: just really fight my way through screens, no matter what

500
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Speaker 5: that means.

501
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Speaker 6: Sometimes I have to go down, sometimes I have to

502
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Speaker 6: look up.

503
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 5: Sometimes you actually got to get out of a position

504
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 5: just to see the puck. But you'd rather see the

505
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 5: buck than you know, obviously.

506
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Speaker 6: Going down blindly. So that's kind of.

507
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Speaker 5: Been my emphasis, especially coming into this season.

508
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Speaker 1: Everybody says you've had a great positive impact on the room.

509
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Speaker 2: When I've been there, I see that. I agree with that.

510
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Speaker 1: You've always been that type of guy, right, and I

511
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 1: think the goal tend to really affects the room a lot,

512
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Speaker 1: don't you.

513
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Speaker 5: I mean, I mean as as a goaltender, it's a

514
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 5: big part of the team obviously. I mean every single

515
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,959
Speaker 5: person in that room has has such an impact, you

516
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 5: know on the environment, and you know, especially in this room.

517
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Speaker 5: I think it obviously starts with our leadership and starts

518
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 5: with how things are have been ran here and how

519
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 5: it has been running and it's and it's pretty incredible

520
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Speaker 5: just the environment here. You know, I feel like I

521
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 5: can be myself. Everyone feels that. So the impact from everybody,

522
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 5: you know, really goes a long way. And obviously as

523
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Speaker 5: a goaltender, especially in games, game situations, game scenarios, you know,

524
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 5: I feel like you got to be you know, depending

525
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 5: again on situation, how the game is going. Kind of

526
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Speaker 5: that that camm edge in the room.

527
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Speaker 6: Just letting the guys know that everything's okay.

528
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Speaker 5: But I mean it's pretty easy to do when you

529
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Speaker 5: got an amazing group of guys that we have in there.

530
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Speaker 1: Edmonton is looking for cup first for McDavid, Pittsburgh wants

531
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Speaker 1: to get Sid.

532
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Speaker 2: Back in the mix.

533
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Speaker 1: Top about the different kinds of pressure within the room

534
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 1: with the guys, what you guys want to do between

535
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 1: the two teams.

536
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, yeah, there's definitely a lot of pressure

537
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 5: running in in Edmonton. You know, I think that'll always

538
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 5: be there. Just with the Canadian market. There's obviously pressure

539
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 5: here with one to win a Stanley Cup.

540
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Speaker 6: You know.

541
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Speaker 5: I don't think any team that you go to won't

542
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 5: have that pressure just because every team, I mean that

543
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 5: that's the final goal, no matter, no matter what situation

544
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 5: you're in. So so for me being in Pittsburgh, it's

545
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Speaker 5: you know, again, I think I think it starts with

546
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 5: how things are at and you know, environment and everything.

547
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 5: So it's there's definitely that pressure. And I mean that's

548
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 5: a lot of pressure that we just put on.

549
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,360
Speaker 6: Ourselves as a team because you.

550
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Speaker 5: Know, we we know what kind of guys we got

551
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 5: in that locker room, and we're really excited about it.

552
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 5: And I think that's why you see such a committed

553
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 5: group out of us, you know, because we we want

554
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Speaker 5: to something special.

555
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,479
Speaker 2: Now, you're the youngest of nine siblings. Breakfast at your

556
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 2: house must have been like the Royal Rumble. How did

557
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 2: that affect your hockey growing up? I'm sure everybody obviously

558
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 2: was in your corner.

559
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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, it was definitely wild.

560
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 5: It was you know, Christmases and you know any type

561
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 5: of holiday. You're getting two turkeys and there's a lot

562
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Speaker 5: of food and you got to make sure you're working

563
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 5: hard to get your food. But yeah, it was a

564
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 5: lot of fun, you know. I think that definitely brought

565
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 5: out the competitive edgem for myself. You know, board games again,

566
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 5: eating like anything like that. You had to work for it.

567
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 5: So it's yeah, definitely really helped me growing to the

568
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 5: man that I am today. But yeah, they always were

569
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 5: in my corner with hockey. You know, I didn't change

570
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 5: anything with hockey. I was still able to get all

571
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Speaker 5: my games.

572
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 6: Obviously with a lot of kids.

573
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Speaker 5: My parents were driving a lot, so of course I

574
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Speaker 5: had to get picked up by some friends here and there,

575
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 5: and same with everybody everybody in my family.

576
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Speaker 6: That's kind of how it goes when you have nine kids.

577
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 6: I got two boys, and I can't imagine how they

578
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 6: did it.

579
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Speaker 1: It took you a fair amount of time to get

580
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Speaker 1: to the NHL stew. I know it takes goalies longer

581
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 1: a bit usually, but you even spent some time in

582
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Speaker 1: the ECHL talk about your journey and what you learned

583
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Speaker 1: by playing at the different levels.

584
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that definitely played in some different leagues that

585
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 5: played in the East Coast, worked my way up to

586
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Speaker 5: the American.

587
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Speaker 6: League and then to the NHL.

588
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Speaker 5: But yeah, I was in the East Coast for about

589
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 5: a year and a half in Wichita, Kansas, and that

590
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 5: taught me a lot about just, you know, different things.

591
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Speaker 5: On a personal level. Hockey down there is a bit

592
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 5: of a different animal, especially when I was there. You know,

593
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 5: there's only three lines, a lot of play, so you

594
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 5: know by the third period everyone's pretty tired. Different eating habits,

595
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,199
Speaker 5: you know, different places where you live and hotels you

596
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 5: stay at and everything, and long bus rides, you know,

597
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 5: all that fun stuff. So it taught me a lot

598
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 5: about myself and just you know, the work ethic aspects,

599
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 5: you know, the will to keep on work and keep

600
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 5: on getting better even though sometimes it feels like, you know,

601
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 5: the NHL is extremely far away. And then working my

602
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 5: way up to the American League again, it's it's pretty

603
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 5: well the same thing I had to I had to

604
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 5: learn a lot about myself as an individual, as a man,

605
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 5: what type of man I wanted to be. And somebody

606
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 5: who really helped me with with that.

607
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 6: Is my wife.

608
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 5: That's that was with me through that whole journey. So yeah,

609
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 5: I've been I've been very fortunate to have amazing people

610
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 5: at my corner and teach me a lot about myself.

611
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Speaker 1: Finally, Stu, it's tough to predict the ceiling for this team.

612
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 2: It's been an up and down year.

613
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: We're not that far removed from an eight game losing

614
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 1: streak and a few blown leads, but but things are

615
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: coming together. Now. Where do you think this team's headed

616
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: right now? Second in the metro and that'd be a

617
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: good place to stay.

618
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, it would definitely be a good place to stay.

619
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 5: I think even better place will obviously be first place.

620
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 5: But we're yeah, We're we're gonna keep on doing that.

621
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 6: I think.

622
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 5: I think sometimes we're in worrying about the standings and

623
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 5: where we're at can sometimes lead to, you know, just

624
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 5: a distraction.

625
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 6: So I think for us, we're more worried about getting

626
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 6: better every day and.

627
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 5: You know, definitely having a lot of fun with each

628
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 5: other and just really enjoying the season. You know, like

629
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 5: the years go by pretty quick, especially as you get

630
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 5: older and older and go through the league a few years.

631
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Speaker 5: So that's another thing I've learned, is you just really

632
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 5: got to enjoy every moment and you know, we're having

633
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 5: a lot of fun with each other and we're going

634
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 5: to keep on doing that and hopefully that means hopefully

635
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 5: that means some amazing things here in the future.

636
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Speaker 1: Stut, real good stuff. Thank you for taking a time.

637
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: We'll see it the rink Thursday night.

638
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, see at the rink.

639
00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: That having me, No, thank you, that's Stut Stuart Skinner.

640
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 5: Stu.

641
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: That's a good name to have if you're a goalie.

642
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: If you play bad and they boo, people think they're

643
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: saying Stu. But ain't been no reason to boot Stu

644
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: Skinner since he got to Pittsburgh. Uh, we're gonna keep

645
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: talking about the Belichick thing. We got the Corsian Zeiss.

646
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: Later in the show, I'm Mark Madden one O five

647
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Speaker 1: to nine.

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Speaker 7: It's the Woodie Show Tomorrow morning from six till ten.

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Speaker 1: Whoa, you'll got a day Wednesday, maybe one.

650
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Speaker 4: From the one oh five nine the ex Weather Center.

651
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Speaker 3: This record here, it's the Mark Man Free Game Show

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Speaker 3: on one five nine d X.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to Stuart Skinner for joining the program.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to Evan Shawl from the Penguins Crack Media staff

655
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Speaker 1: for getting things set up?

656
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Speaker 2: Tom, what do we got for today's trifectum?

657
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Speaker 3: For today's trifecta in honor of Mike McCarthy being hired

658
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Speaker 3: as Steelers head coach, I've got a trifecta of fat coaches.

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Speaker 2: Oh I like it?

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Speaker 1: Do you include me for ballhawk? Didn't know you should.

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Speaker 1: I'm a world championship winning ball hockey coach, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, honorable mention?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, number three, I bet, I bet I would right

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Speaker 1: myself ahead of properly.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear who you got?

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Speaker 4: Number three?

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Speaker 3: Do you remember the local guy in Newcastle, Mark Mangino,

668
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Speaker 3: who coached the Kansas Jayhawks.

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Speaker 4: Remember how big and fat he was.

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Speaker 1: And that looked even weirder because it's basketball. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: no football. And he took him to the Orange Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right. And he always wore like clothes

673
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Speaker 1: were like a size too small. Yes, it was just

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Speaker 1: real bad.

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Speaker 3: He looked like if you've seen Willie Walker in the

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Speaker 3: chocolate factory when Augustus Glop turns into the big old plum,

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Speaker 3: That's what Mangino looked like.

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Speaker 2: I did not see that, but he looked like he

679
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Speaker 2: was ready to explode. I can tell you that.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Number two.

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Speaker 3: Tommy Lasorda from the Dodgers, that big old gut when

682
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Speaker 3: he would go out to the mound. You know, he

683
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Speaker 3: was like the biggest dink ever, Tommy LaSora. No one

684
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Speaker 3: liked him really. A lot of the old timey baseball

685
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Speaker 3: guys were like that.

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Speaker 1: They just got so caught up in the game, being

687
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Speaker 1: the biggest deal there was back then, like Kim Whitey Herzog,

688
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Speaker 1: just total pieces of crap.

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Speaker 3: He's got some great moments with umpires though, as far

690
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Speaker 3: as just chewing them out. Number one though, is Andy

691
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Speaker 3: Reid fat head coaches? No question, definitely the most successful

692
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Speaker 3: fat head coach. There is no question. Who would you

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Speaker 3: take off that list? Would you take Mangino?

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Speaker 2: Geno guy? Yeah? Who'd he ever be?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 3: I don't even think he won that Orange Bowl, to

698
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Speaker 3: be honest with you. I mean Losworida won the World championship.

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Speaker 3: Reid's got two rings exact Windo. Yeah so yeah, but

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Speaker 3: I would right myself ahead of Mangino.

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Speaker 2: So that's the trifecta.

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Speaker 1: Brought to list by Danny's Peturn Hogies family owned an

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Speaker 1: our good friends at Shandorovic Shandrovich and Fisherman Uh Tom Uh.

706
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Speaker 1: The coaching carousel is still spinning. I never even heard

707
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Speaker 1: of the guy. Cleveland hired, Todd Monkin the Ravens OC

708
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Speaker 1: and he used to be the Cleveland o C at

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Speaker 1: one point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he really, you know, came on the

711
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Speaker 3: scene when he was the Georgia offensive coordinator for their

712
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 3: back to back national championships under Kirby Smart. Then he

713
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Speaker 3: got the Ravens job. I just feel like they had

714
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Speaker 3: no one else to go to. I'm surprised if they

715
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Speaker 3: were going to go to some like kind of old

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Speaker 3: timey coordinator guy, they didn't just go to Schwartz, the

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Speaker 3: guy who's in house, and just handed to him.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's an attractive job, because a the

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Speaker 1: team stinks, but more so, I mean, actually it's pretty

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Speaker 1: good on defense. The best defense is yeah, certainly much

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Speaker 1: better than the Steelers defense, but that's because Garrett's way

722
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Speaker 1: better than what But on the offensive side of the ball,

723
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Speaker 1: the ownership and the ownership up there is medaling and

724
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Speaker 1: doesn't know what it's doing.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna want Shador to play.

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Speaker 4: That's the thing.

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Speaker 1: You're walking into that situation knowing that ownership wants to

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Speaker 1: dictate who the quarterback is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where I think there's a lot of turnoff

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Speaker 3: happening with a lot of the candidates that have been

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Speaker 3: interviewing with the Cleveland Browns. It's just that they have

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Speaker 3: gotten a sense that it has to be Chador. Maybe

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Speaker 3: the owner said something like at least for this year

734
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Speaker 3: or something, but they want Shador to work out so badly,

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Speaker 3: and even beyond Shador, like say they do move.

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Speaker 4: I'm just tired d On, why not right? But that's

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Speaker 4: not where the way they went.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, well, Deon Star fell after the one fluky

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Speaker 1: season of Colorado.

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Speaker 3: Beyond Shador, there's just a track record of the Hasms

741
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Speaker 3: being way too involved and way too metaling of owners.

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Speaker 1: Same with Buffalo and the offensive coordinator Brady and and

743
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Speaker 1: you know what that does. It changes nothing absolutely. Having

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Speaker 1: the OC be the head coach changes nothing. But what

745
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Speaker 1: it enables the goal was to do is further scapegoat

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Speaker 1: up Sei Derbott.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which I'm so surprised that he hasn't gotten any

748
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Speaker 3: buzz at all. I wonder if his agent has put

749
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Speaker 3: out to people that he's just done for a year

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Speaker 3: or something like that.

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Speaker 1: If I were him, I would take off a year.

752
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Speaker 1: I would let better jobs open up. I wouldn't just

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Speaker 1: go to whatever. I mean, who's left the Raiders, Cardinal Arizona.

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Speaker 1: I think that's it now, Yeah, Cleveland Field. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: I just wait a year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think we're forgetting sure that what's.

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Speaker 1: That's what Tomlin's doing and why he hasn't said a

758
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Speaker 1: word and totally disappear for the public eye. And I

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Speaker 1: mean it couldn't have anything to do with with anything else.

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Speaker 1: It's just because he wants to take a year off. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's not gonna do that either. I'm so happy about

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Speaker 1: the Belichick thing, by the way, I think he should

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Speaker 1: be in. I'm glad he's not in. It's going to

764
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Speaker 1: be talked about all the time. People are gonna just

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Speaker 1: say NonStop stupid things. But you know, it was even

766
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Speaker 1: in a worse spot than Belichick. Right now, Tom and

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about this more later in the show.

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Speaker 1: But Gino Smith, think about this. Gino Smith was Seattle's

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Speaker 1: quarterback last year. He wanted out, so they trained him

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Speaker 1: to Vegas. Vegas finished dead last, They're going to draft

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Speaker 1: Mendoza is Geno Smith's replacement, and now Seattle's in the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl with Sam Darnald. Has anybody ever screwed up

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Speaker 1: more than Gino Smith did?

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Speaker 4: No, it's pretty bad. West Virginia.

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Speaker 3: People do have a lot of smarts though, so we

776
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Speaker 3: shouldn't be surprised that he has decided to go down

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Speaker 3: this path. But yeah, total nuking of the end of

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Speaker 3: his career because he's done now, for sure. I'm surprised

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Speaker 3: that Seattle. How lucky too is Seattle that it played

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Speaker 3: out that way because Donald's such an opera You.

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Speaker 2: Don't think they'd be in the super Bowl with Gino Smith.

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Speaker 2: I think they would have.

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Speaker 3: Been a playoff team probably they were ten and seven

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Speaker 3: last year with him, but not a super Bowl team.

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Speaker 1: Donald is a much better quarterback. Why isn't Sam Donald

786
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Speaker 1: a bigger story? Why isn't everybody talking about him? He's

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Speaker 1: on his fifth team, He's in the Super Bowl, He's

788
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Speaker 1: been a great quarterback for the last two years with

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Speaker 1: MVP level numbers.

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Speaker 2: He's a star out of nowhere.

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Speaker 1: Why aren't people rising to that bait and making him

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Speaker 1: the guy as we head to.

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Speaker 2: The super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It feels like the story that they're going to go

796
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Speaker 3: to as the Patriots being back right, like the resurgence

797
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Speaker 3: of the dynasty, that they've moved on from Brady and

798
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Speaker 3: bellichicking out Rabel and may have brought them back to

799
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Speaker 3: the super Bowl so quickly. Like that seems to be

800
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Speaker 3: the momentum that the storyline is heading down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe.

802
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Speaker 1: And I think the New York media resents that Donald

803
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Speaker 1: failed in York.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a factor.

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Speaker 4: That's a good call.

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Speaker 3: Also, Seattle is just such a good team, you know

807
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Speaker 3: what I mean that I think people can just say, well,

808
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Speaker 3: how good is Donald? I think he's fantastic, but that

809
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 3: people are making an excuse maybe on his being like, well,

810
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Speaker 3: you know, he's getting carried a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I think Donald is proving that the teams he failed

812
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Speaker 1: with f up that they failed him and not vice versa.

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Speaker 1: I do feel bad for Minnesota, though, because I would

814
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Speaker 1: have franchised him for one year, you know, and see

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Speaker 1: how he did and then you know, i' McCarthy progresses.

816
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Speaker 2: But I don't blame them for what they did.

817
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Speaker 1: I don't think it was a terrible move because they

818
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Speaker 1: they didn't go far with Donald Deer before despite the

819
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Speaker 1: gaudy regular season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but still, fourteen wins in the regular season is

821
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Speaker 3: a lot. And I know you lost in the first round.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you drafted McCarthy in the first round.

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Speaker 4: Though it's tough.

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Speaker 3: It was tough, no question about it. It was a tough

825
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Speaker 3: decision for them to make. But boy, they probably feel

826
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Speaker 3: some type of way about it now seeing him in

827
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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl too. And I wonder if Donald feels more,

828
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Speaker 3: you know, spurned by Minnesota than he does the New

829
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Speaker 3: York Jets. Like with the Jets that's so far behind him.

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Speaker 3: It's like the Jets are a train wreck in Minnesota.

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Speaker 4: I won you fourteen games and you let me go.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't know about spurt, but they did draft

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Speaker 1: McCarthy in the first round.

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Speaker 4: I'm better than McCarthy though, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: If I'm Donald and he is, I don't think he's

836
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Speaker 3: too mad at them right now.

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Speaker 2: Finally, Tom, we had a sound bite yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Skip Bayless said that Tom Brady is probably mad that

839
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Speaker 1: New England is back in the Super Bowl so quick

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Speaker 1: and isn't rooting for Drake May.

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Speaker 2: I am totally buying that, how about you.

842
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, he definitely wanted a nice little, you know, period

843
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 3: of finding and missing on quarterbacks before they landed on

844
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Speaker 3: that franchise quarterback to have it on what it's their

845
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: second try, right, they did Mac Jones, and now they're

846
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 3: going with Drake May to hit it on their second

847
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Speaker 3: try and have the franchise in place. And he's already

848
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 3: a head of schedule getting to a super Bowl. He's

849
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Speaker 3: pretty salty about this. I wish he was calling the game.

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Speaker 3: I wish Fox had it so he had to sit

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Speaker 3: there and call Drake May. I think that who's carrying

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Speaker 3: at NBC.

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Speaker 1: I think they should just bring him in for one

854
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: game and his only signent's interviewing Drake May.

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Speaker 2: Right, they'll probably if Jason Kelsey do it.

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Speaker 1: What oh five nine the X, Now, here's your chance

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Speaker 1: to win one thousand dollars, just as