WEBVTT - Eddie & Rocky -- 12/10/25 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:04.160 Affects everybody basically in the sound of our voice, that's right. 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:06.720 I'm not everybody shots at Kroger, obviously, but I'd say 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:08.920 a large majority. 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:11.440 Dough, Yeah, but a lot of folks are affected by 0:00:11.680 --> 0:00:15.520 just that big behemoth of a company that is. And look, 0:00:15.760 --> 0:00:19.400 this concept of remote work, that is one of the 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:22.279 things that sprung from COVID, right, and everyone had to 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:24.880 work or we had to work from home. And then 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:27.400 it got to be where people were like, what's work 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:30.360 from home? Thing? Ain't bad? I the boss ain't there. 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:34.519 I can walk my dog if I have five minutes. 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:37.159 But I think a lot of companies found that in essence, 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:41.200 while you may like to work from home, you most 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:45.000 people don't necessarily work well from home, right, they don't, 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:45.680 you know. 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:49.599 It's apparently Kroger has found that out. Correct. Circling back 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:54.840 to our conversation about Kroger, is that downtown, that giant 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:57.720 building that's been down there as long as I remember, 0:00:58.000 --> 0:00:59.960 since I and I moved, been down fifty years ago. 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:04.920 It has been kind of non occupied. 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:08.480 Right, So yeah. According to Dan Monk's article, Kroger has 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:12.480 about forty eight hundred local office employees and come the 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:15.040 first of the year. They're demanding that all of them 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:16.560 come back to the office. 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:19.360 And we have that man with us right here, Dan 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:24.039 Monk from the I team WCPO nine News. And so, Danielle, 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:27.160 you're your story. You had this on a little while back, 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:31.280 but we hadn't heard about it. But it's the first 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:34.800 of the year, right, it's expected to do one hundred 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:36.000 percent attendance. 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:40.320 Now, right, that's by the way, I'm working from home 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:40.839 right now. 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:44.440 Yes, well, yeah, you're on the phone. 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:48.160 Actually maybe you shouldn't tell the boss that, but I am. 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:48.760 I'm working. 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:49.560 I'm really working. 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:53.400 But Dan, I mean, but they're making a big issue 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:56.160 out of the fact that a lot of the small businesses, 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:58.520 and I was going to ask you about that, where 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:01.120 a lot of the small businesses they're kind of clamoring 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:01.400 for this. 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:06.560 Yeah, they have been, and Kroger has gradually been bringing 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:10.359 people back. I think last year it was they brought 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:14.400 him back to maybe three days a week, and now 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:18.240 they're bringing everybody back full time. But that is welcome 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:21.240 news to the folks at three c DC. They say 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:22.600 it's going to be a shot in the arm for 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:27.800 small businesses. And what Joe Rudemiller the folk's been for 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:30.680 three c DC told me is that you can still 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:34.840 tell on Monday and Friday that people still work from 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:38.640 home a lot. But he thinks a lot of the 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:43.400 traffic and the pedestrian traffic, the energy of downtown has 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:48.120 really come back from that Tuesday to Thursday stretch. And 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:52.079 you know, they're getting some additional traffic from the fact 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:55.760 that more people are living downtown, and so you know, 0:02:56.000 --> 0:03:00.360 he thinks downtown is making a comeback. But the fact 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:04.320 that the you know, the biggest company in town is 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:08.000 is mandating full time work at the downtown and all 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:12.360 the local corporate offices, that's good news for the for 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:14.440 the surrounding businesses. 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:17.280 Well, I have to imagine the local restaurants and I 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:20.440 have to be the biggest benefactors here. You're talking forty 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:22.920 eight hundred employees that are now going to be back 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.920 downtown on a more consistent basis, that that's going to 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:28.440 be a big help to them. 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:32.639 Yeah, that's definitely true. And you hear that from restaurant tours, 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:36.720 especially the ones on the sort of the east and 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:40.520 the and the northern part of town where Kroger is based. 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:44.520 And then you've got PNG and Western Southern you know, 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:47.760 on the southeast corner of downtown, and the people that 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:51.120 operate businesses near there are grateful for the fact that 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:56.080 Western Southern pretty much had full time you know, work 0:03:56.200 --> 0:04:01.840 in the office very shortly after the pandemic ended. Now 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:04.240 a lot of people are still working from home. It's 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:07.240 like thirty five million people still work from home according 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:11.320 to the Labor Department. That's their most recent testament in 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:15.160 September of last year. And the executive search firm Robert Half, 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:18.240 they did a survey and they found that eighty eight 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:22.640 percent of employees are still offering hybrid work options. So 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.159 it's it's not something that's going to go away forever. 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:29.800 People like working at home and they demand it. 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:32.440 Well, yeah, and according to your stats, are at thirty 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:35.839 five million number. According to your request, twenty two percent 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:39.000 of the workforce, the US workforce, that's I think it 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:42.400 was a quarter of the American workforce works from home 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:45.440 at least some of the time. So we know that 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:49.679 Kroger bringing you in person work back is going to help, 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:52.480 you know, the local community and the businesses. But what 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:56.359 is Kroger's reason. They come out and explicitly said the 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:59.600 reason why they want their folks back in the office. 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:04.000 They've said that with their stores and manufacturing plants and 0:05:04.040 --> 0:05:09.320 distribution centers opening and operating around the clock, they feel 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:14.080 like in office, expectations have to be greater for them. 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:20.600 They think that the workplace encourages collaboration and it helps 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:22.640 Kroger manage their business better. 0:05:23.680 --> 0:05:26.560 Well, and flipping the script here for a second, we're 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:28.880 talking to Dan Monk from the IT team from Channel 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:32.799 nine while they're talking about having more people in the building, 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:38.520 the office building downtown. What's with the delivery situation that 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:41.479 got going on? Where they're going with AI? What exactly 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:45.479 I was? You know, I heard their story and read 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:47.760 the story, and I still don't think I get what's 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:48.520 going on there. 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:53.240 Okay, Well, Kroger has been trying to figure out the 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:57.839 best way to do home delivery since twenty eighteen, and 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:03.040 what they started with was a fleet of robot powered warehouses. 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:06.720 They have a big one in Monroe, the. 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:10.359 Fifty five million dollar facility where computers run around on 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:13.480 grids and they pick the groceries and they're put in 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:17.120 those blue trucks and they ship them to places all 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:21.800 over all over Ohio, Kentucky and Indiana. So that hub 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:30.600 has four different satellite facilities in the Independence, Kentucky, Louisville, Indianapolis, 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:35.560 and Columbus. And that's how Kroger delivered groceries to those markets, 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:39.960 you know, for the last eight years. And now they're 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:45.400 changing that because that system is geared toward next day service. 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:51.719 That's not fast enough for Americans now and they want 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:55.400 the capability to do same day service and they really 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:59.200 need it because Amazon has one of a thousand cities 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:01.840 now where you can get same day delivery of grocery. 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:04.479 So they got to keep up with their competitors. So 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:09.200 they're changing things around, and they've closed several of their 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:14.720 distribution facilities to save money and also to. 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:17.120 Make sure that. 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:20.720 The ones they have are operating, you know, at full capacity. 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:25.720 And then at the same time, they've signed deals with instacart, 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:31.080 door Dash, and Uber Eats to deliver groceries on a 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:35.480 same day basis. And so what my story is about 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:41.440 is the implications of that for customers. And one of 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:45.920 the things they're doing with Instacart, for example, is Instacart 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:49.880 has an artificial intelligence tool. They call it KRT Assistance, 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:54.120 and it's basically a chatbot that helps you build your 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:59.800 grocery list or build your grocery order based on your preferences. 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:02.320 And so what they say is it's a tool for 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:06.920 meal planning and budgeting and nutrition. You can ask it 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:09.600 to find a recipe that's healthy and it'll give you 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:13.280 the ingredients, and they say it'll save time. But what 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:19.480 a lot of privacy activists claim is that AI is 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:23.679 really a tool for what they call surveillance pricing, which 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:29.520 is arguably a predatory form of pricing, where companies collect 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:32.800 a lot of data about you, They create a profile 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:36.920 about you, and the whole goal there is to determine 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:39.800 how badly you need a product, how much you'll pay 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:42.520 for it, and whether they can get a higher price 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:42.840 from you. 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:46.560 Right, And then what the thought being if they all 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:48.480 of a sudden look at the data, or I should say, 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:52.079 AI looks at the data and data and instantaneously says, boy, 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:56.120 this section of Cincinnati, for whatever reason, is ordering a 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:58.559 lot of bananas. We can up the price of bananas 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:01.240 by three cents. Right, That's kind of what they I 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:02.880 guess the fears are that is going to happen. 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:06.440 That's the fear. Yeah, And you know, I don't think 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:09.120 the evidence is in on either side of this. You know, 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:13.120 what Kroger said to me this week was that the 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:16.280 customers who choose Instacart, that you know, the fear is 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:19.800 that you're putting an AI tool on the Kroger app, 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:23.280 and what kind of data will it have access to? 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:26.120 What's it going to do with that data. At the 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:30.240 same time, Kroger and Instacart are selling access to their 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:36.120 customers to advertisers, and so one of the what one 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:38.560 of the people told me from one of the privacy 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.760 groups was, how do you know whether Kroger is giving 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:44.360 you the best deal or they're just giving you a 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:47.280 deal that makes them the most money because they have 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:51.480 advertisers paying for access to your customers. And now that 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:56.240 you introduce Instacart to the to the equation, how do 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:58.679 you know it's the Instacart app that's not making the 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:01.920 money or Instacart made in the money. So you got 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:08.160 conflicting you know, I guess wishes here. Kroger wants to 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:11.360 make money, Instacart wants to make money. The consumer wants 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:14.360 the lowest price. What Kroger ultimately told me was that 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:18.120 customers who choose Instacart as their delivery provider through the 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:23.200 Kroger app will pay the same price as in store customers, 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:27.520 and they'll do it in a transparent way that creates 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:28.840 value for consumers. 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:33.240 All right, Well, fascinating stuff, Dan Monk, We always appreciated, buddy. 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:37.080 Thanks so much. Yep, thanks gray stuff, Dan, thank you 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:41.240 big stuff coming to Kroger. And you think about going 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:44.280 back to what we were talking about with the office 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:47.600 space being filled downtown. I think you see some of 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:50.800 these old pictures and I say old pictures of Cincinnati. 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:54.840 I'm talking you know, yeah, mid nineties when downtown was 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:58.480 packed right during the day. You go downtown right now, 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:02.240 there's there's no there in the afternoon, nothing, nothing going on. No, 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:06.360 we'll see if that that helps. Well that we head 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:08.920 to traffic and weather. What is going on. 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:13.200 From the UCE Health Traffic center. Man, you see health, 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:15.600 You're going to find coumtprehensive care, soap personal makes your 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:18.920 best tomorrow possible, bombless care for better outcomes. Expect more 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:22.880 at ucehealth dot com. 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Ready Its Yeah, his band they 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:13.480 made an appearance in Cleveland, Ohio on a local television show. 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:17.800 Playing was carrying oas Ready and his band crashed around 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:21.360 three twenty eight pm into a lake Monoma near Madison. 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:25.160 Reading was killed along with members of his band, The 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:28.800 bar Jay's Jimmy King were on cardwell Faelan James, Carl Cunningham, 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:32.360 trumpet player Ben Cauley. He was actually the only man 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:36.760 to survive the crash. Yeah, it was right after that. 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:39.400 That's sitting on the dock of the bacon right here, 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:43.720 cranks up a little bit awesome. This was the first 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:46.480 dance at my wedding. Oh is that right? This was 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:51.640 our first dance name Kellen. I chose a band, a 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:58.000 band with you, the great song this these arms of 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.560 Mine sitting on the dock of the bay. A short 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:01.200 amount of time. 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:03.600 I was just going to say, these arms of mine? 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:05.439 What Devin I danced too? 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:08.960 For that's about that's a fact you and I had 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:13.680 the ready first first dance. Yeah, here you go. There's 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:15.640 a good part. 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:23.400 See we go back to what I was talking about 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:28.200 kids these days, trying to lecture my sons on music 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:29.960 to listen to when you're trying to get. 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:30.920 In the mood with your lady. 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:36.720 And I'm like, guys, little Otis Redding, a little Algrenlo 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:42.840 little yeah, some little Marvin Gaye. Yeah, you can't go wrong. Yes, 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:45.320 And they're like, we don't know who that is dead? 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:48.640 Oh my god, Well find out find out you were 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:49.400 my kids. 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:54.479 Yeah. I thought I raised you better than that, right exactly. 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:57.520 But yeah, on this day in history, nineteen six, I 0:14:57.560 --> 0:14:59.160 can't twenty six years old. 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:03.760 Crazy, Well that's you think back on guys, like that 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:07.680 that tunneled at twenty six. But also and not to 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:10.760 lean on my Beatles thing too hard, But I will 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:16.520 think about those guys. Lennon McCartney were like twenty five 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:19.680 when they wrote some of the best pop songs of 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:22.960 all time, when they were only like, you know, twenty 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:24.600 years old. They wrote I want to hold your hands, 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:27.160 she loves You. But you know, they're like twenty five 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:31.080 twenty six writing I Am the Walrus and uh, you know, 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:31.920 day in the Life. 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:34.520 Yeah, it's funny, Like when I'm young, I'm thinking, Okay, 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:38.040 these guys are like, you know, thirty five forty. They've 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:39.600 been doing us for a long time. It's why they're 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:42.000 so good. Well, they just had it. 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:45.200 They broke up before they were thirty. That that in 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:46.360 of itself is crazy. 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:50.400 Now, Now when did they stop doing because they famously 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:53.480 didn't perform live right after a certain time after sixty six. 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:54.960 Yeah, and they. 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:57.960 After nineteen sixty six, they never performed a concert. 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:01.400 Well, that rooftop thing, the Roofstop and that would be 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:05.320 sixty nine, Winner of sixty nine, and that's about as 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:08.520 far as they went. They released Let It Be came 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:13.160 out in like early spring of seventy and that was that. 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:16.240 But that album had been done before their last album, 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:17.160 which was Abbey Road. 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:20.600 Now do you realize that if the Beatles were around today, 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:23.840 they couldn't survive, not torn. The only way you can 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:26.640 make these days was by touring, because there's you know, 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:29.400 you don't get paid nothing for the Spotify's and the 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:32.000 wherever the hell you get music these days. 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:36.080 Well, yeah, those guys make nothing. Well that's the reason 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:39.160 people are always saying, well, why are the Stones still 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:42.560 touring and all these old guys still touring? Well, they 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:43.480 don't make any money. 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:45.160 Yeah, yeah. 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:48.200 And also that's the reason these artists have all sold 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:52.280 off their catalogs. You know, Neil Young whatever, somebody paid 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:56.720 him hundreds of millions of dollars for his catalog and 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:58.800 people were like, why did you do that? 0:16:59.120 --> 0:16:59.240 Now? 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:02.320 Are you're going to hear it like in a Chevy ad. 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:05.680 You're going to hear them playing rocking in the free world, goes, 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:06.440 I don't care. 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:08.879 You get to a certain age and you go, I 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:12.800 don't care. I I've did this and I wanted to 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:15.480 pay off for me what I can't take it with 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:17.439 me to my death? What's what's the difference? 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:21.920 Well, right, you're taking care of your kids, kids, kids, kids, kids, right, 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:22.719 end of story. 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:26.320 Yeah, but no, I mean now music is being created 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:31.200 by a I ercent AI music is out and it's good. 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:32.359 There's something that's good. 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:35.920 Well that when the number one country song a couple 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:38.160 of weeks back when then AI song? 0:17:38.560 --> 0:17:41.879 Yeah yeah, but there is pushback, which which leads me 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:44.720 to my next story here, ed, Uh have you seen 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:48.040 them McDonald's commercial that was one hundred percent AI created. 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:50.840 I never saw it on TV, but I know I 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:52.040 guess it was coming out. 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:55.760 Okay, So I didn't see it. I was reading the 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:57.760 same story you have there, but I didn't see. 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:00.159 Yeah, okay, so they again they did this commerce So 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:04.120 that was one hundred percent AI, and the blowback from 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:08.640 it is fierce. You know, people are are pushing back. 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:10.639 They're like, wait a minute, we want real people, we 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:14.359 want like what is this? People just are pushing back 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:18.280 on all this artificial intelligence that's coming. So, uh but 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:20.600 I saw it. You wouldn't. You wouldn't know that it 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:24.879 was Oh is that right? Yeah? Yeah, but it is. 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:26.320 We're going to see that more and more. 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:30.600 I told you it was. Shoot, it was probably a 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:33.879 year or so ago that there was a thing that 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:36.919 popped up on I want to say my Facebook whatever. 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:40.920 It was promo for a friends reunion show. Well, it's 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:42.920 probably it's been a couple of years ago because it 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:48.160 was about when what's his name died, Matthew Barry died, 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:52.840 and so they and they were getting they put together 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:55.600 a reunion show that they were all going to go 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:57.920 to his They were all getting together go to his funeral, 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:02.359 and I saw I was like, I can't believe they're 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:06.719 doing this. Wow, that's kind of strange and weird. But 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:10.080 I guess they're just trying to salute their buddy. And 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:13.720 I said something to one of my sons again they're going, yeah, 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:17.639 that's AI. It's like fold me. 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:23.560 Increasingly, more and more you see video and yet you 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:26.359 don't know if it's real. You see a tweet, you 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:30.639 see something, and it makes you question even when somebody 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:33.480 we talked about this years ago, when something is real, 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:36.199 you're going to go, I don't know that could be 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:37.160 AI generated. 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:40.840 Well, something serious is going to happen, and you know 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:43.760 it is. Something serious is going to happen, and it's 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:46.800 going to be one of those things where whatever a 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:49.960 certain percentage of population is going to go I don't 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:51.160 believe that's not real. 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:53.000 Yeah, and people are going to know this is real 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:55.560 and they're like, all right, sure that all the time. 0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:57.720 It's going to be more of the World's Part two 0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:00.639 from back in the thirties. Yeah, you know, people are 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:03.080 gonna freak out because somebody's gonna put out there here, 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:05.879 look at this. This Martian is walking down my street 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:08.080 right now, and people are going to freak out. 0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:11.520 Would it change your opinion of a song if you 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:14.400 knew it was AI another word? You heard a song 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:17.040 like damn, that's really catch. That guy's got a great voice. 0:20:17.640 --> 0:20:22.119 Would you would inhibit your feeling of this song and 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:23.640 whether you listen to it more or if you knew 0:20:23.640 --> 0:20:24.320 it was AI. 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:29.520 No, not really see it would be See I'm pushing 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:31.399 back on it, but I think I just don't know. 0:20:31.440 --> 0:20:33.520 Are we gonna get to a point where we don't 0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:37.320 know if a song is AI or real or is 0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:39.760 it gonna be kind of two separate categories like Okay, 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:42.520 you know, here's music that's so created the old way, 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:44.879 and we can appreciate that, but we can also appreciate 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:48.080 this AI generated song that's just happens to be very catchy. 0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:50.639 I don't know, see, that's what I would like to 0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:53.040 think that I would push back on it, but I've 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:56.560 finally given up the thought on it because it's kind 0:20:56.560 --> 0:21:00.520 of in my mind, it's kind of like types of food. 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:05.119 You just kind of you just said it right there. Okay, 0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:07.800 there's good kinds of there's good kinds of country music. 0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:10.960 You're just cutting kind of opera that rock music, soul music, 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:13.719 rap music. Okay, now there's gonna be good kinds of 0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:18.199 AI music. Does that make sense? Yeah, so you know 0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:20.520 it that falls into its own category as far as 0:21:20.520 --> 0:21:23.280 I'm concerned, Well, I hope it doesn't end up taking over. 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:27.280 But can you truly appreciate the soulfulness of the song 0:21:27.359 --> 0:21:31.359 and the meaning for sure, knowing that it's not done 0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:34.400 by a person who had a real experience. 0:21:34.760 --> 0:21:38.040 Dude, you just played that Otis Redding song. There No 0:21:38.160 --> 0:21:39.840 computer can do that. 0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:43.080 I don't think so, But I think they can. That's 0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:47.760 what's scary. It's gonna try it can create a voice 0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:50.760 as good as his soulful, But again, knowing that that's 0:21:50.800 --> 0:21:53.080 a real person and the struggles and all that, I 0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:55.439 think it makes you appreciate the song. But if it 0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:59.400 was just completed on a on a computer or keyboard. 0:22:00.240 --> 0:22:03.680 Would you feel the same about that otis writing song 0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:06.760 that remains to be seen. I don't think I would, 0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:10.520