1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: It's night Side Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio. 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: Well, last night we were talking about the Supreme Court 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: hearing yesterday, in which actually the Supreme Court hearing was 4 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: today's Friday, so that the Supreme Court hearing, I believe 5 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: was on Wednesday to strike that in which the Court 6 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: has taken up the whole issue of birthright citizenship. And 7 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: we had releach tremendous response to it last night at 8 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 2: the eleven o'clock hour, and at the end of the hour, 9 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: there were a group of callers who were on the 10 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: line and I wasn't able to get to them. We 11 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 2: simply ran out of time. So I said last night 12 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 2: at the conclusion of the program, at a couple of 13 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: minutes before at midnight last night, that we would go 14 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: back to the issue of birthright citizenship tonight. And the 15 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: reason I want to go back to it is I 16 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: really want people to understand it. The Court heard the 17 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: arguments yesterday. I think anyone who listened and I listened 18 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: was actually again I think it was Wednesday. We listened 19 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 2: to the to the Court, and I think it's pretty 20 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: clear that the Court is going to basically uphold birthright 21 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: citizenship as it's currently been interpreted on the books. Donald 22 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: Trump issued an executive off an executive order literally almost 23 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: the first day he was in office, it might have 24 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 2: been the first day that he was in office, and 25 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: one of his executive orders sought to in birthright citizenship. 26 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: What birthright citizenship means is that under the current law, 27 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: if someone is in the United States and they happened 28 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: to deliver a baby, that baby, that infant is an 29 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 2: American citizen by right of the fact that they were 30 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: born in the United States, any of the fifty States, 31 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: or any of the territories Puerto Rico and others, they're 32 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: American citizens. Now this this has a long long standing 33 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 2: record at the at the High Court. Birthright citizenship. Proponents 34 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: of it believe that it is enshrined in the Fourteenth Amendment. Now, 35 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 2: those who are opposed to birthright citizenship argued that the 36 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: intent of the fourteenth Amendment, which was one of the 37 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: three major post Civil War amendments, was intended to make 38 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: it very clear that slaves and the descendants of slaves 39 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: were not only were they not slaves anymore, but they 40 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 2: were United States citizen. Now birthright citizen citizenship. In a 41 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: case in eighteen. There were a series of cases. There 42 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 2: are a series of cases, but the one that I 43 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 2: think is the most important case was in eighteen ninety eight, 44 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 2: which is called the Wong Kim Arc case, and it 45 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 2: involves an individual who had been born in the United 46 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: States to parents of Chinese descent. They were not parents, 47 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: they were not citizens, and he was born in San Francisco, 48 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: and he was here, he had returned to the United States. 49 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: He had returned to China, and when he eventually came 50 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: back to the US from some time in China, immigration 51 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: officials at that time wouldn't allow him to enter the 52 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: country in the ground that he wasn't a US citizen. 53 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: So he filed a case that worked its way up 54 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 2: to the Supreme Court, and a majority of the Supreme 55 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: Court agreed with this individual, Wankim arnt Arc, that he 56 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: was indeed a United States citizen. And the judge who 57 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 2: wrote the majority in that opinion was a guy named 58 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: Horace Gray. I know little about Haros Gray other than 59 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 2: it was the Supreme Court justice. He explained that although 60 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 2: the main purpose, he acknowledged, the main purpose of the 61 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: fourteenth Amendment had been to establish the citizen of black 62 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 2: people including former enslave persons born in the United States. 63 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 2: The Amendment applies more broadly and is not restricted by 64 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 2: color or race. Instead, Justice Gray wrote, the Amendment affirms 65 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 2: the ancient and fundamental rule of citizenship by birth within 66 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: the territory, in the allegiance and under the protection of 67 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 2: the country, including all children here born of resident aliens. 68 00:04:55,640 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 2: So that has been the pillar of the concept of 69 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: birthright citizenship. Now here's the problem. The Fourteenth Amendment passed 70 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: in eighteen sixty eight. To the best of my knowledge, 71 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 2: airplanes weren't invented even conceived until the early twentieth century 72 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 2: when the Wright brothers at Kitty Hawk, North Carolina were 73 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 2: able to get a plane up in the air for 74 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: a few seconds, and then of course that was the 75 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 2: start of the airline industry. Today, there is a concept 76 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 2: called birthright tourism, and there are companies around the world, 77 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:39,799 Speaker 2: but particularly in China, who essentially charge wealthy individuals members 78 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: of the Chinese community upwards of one hundred thousand dollars. 79 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: There's a couple of companies USA Happy Baby, Star Baby Care, 80 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 2: and they basically bring the women to the United States 81 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,799 Speaker 2: late in their pregnancy. They make sure that they're comfortable. 82 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 2: They're put up either in homes, private home, our hotels. 83 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 2: And these are thousands of people who have basically said, Okay, 84 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 2: we're going to take advantage of this loophole. So these 85 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 2: Chinese citizens and generally, if you're wealthy in China, you 86 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 2: probably are part of the Officialdom of China, meaning you're 87 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: a member of the Communist Party of China. Come here 88 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: and they have a child, and that child automatically receives citizenship. 89 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: And the way it could work is that at some 90 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: point in the future, if that child returned here on 91 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 2: his own to basically establish his citizenship here, he then 92 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: could bring his parents over and I suspect over time 93 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: have the parents who effect paid for their passage to 94 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 2: the US to his presence here as a US citizen, 95 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 2: he could he could sort of bootstrap them up so 96 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 2: they could become citizens. And it's it's a problem. It's 97 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: a problem. The problem is that the world has changed dramatically, 98 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: There's no question about that, and no one ever could 99 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: have contemplated that. People would have taken you know, you've 100 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: heard a slow boat to China, taken a slow boat 101 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 2: from China before airline travel and across the Pacific Ocean 102 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: while pregnant. Uh, it's it's so much easier with air 103 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 2: airline travel. And at this point, at this point, I 104 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: think that unless there is some sort of an effort 105 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 2: to change the constitution, that we're going to be stuck 106 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: with this for years and years and years. So people 107 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 2: who come across the border, irrespective of their status, whether 108 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: they're coming across illegally or there, or they've decided to 109 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 2: come in legally and they happen to have a child, 110 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 2: they get citizenship, and it undercuts I think the value 111 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 2: of US citizenship, amongst other things. And so what I 112 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: want to do is just open up the phone lines 113 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: and hear from you again. I think it's you know, 114 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: we're all lucky to I said last night, and I'll 115 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: say it again. The United States makes up only about 116 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 2: six percent of the world population, so all of us 117 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 2: have kind of hit the citizenship lottery. Those of us 118 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 2: who were born here to American citizens and born in 119 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: the United States, we're members of the of a lucky 120 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: club called American citizens. Now, there are many ways in 121 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 2: which people can legally become US citizens, and I think 122 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: we need to frankly need to review all of our 123 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 2: citizenship requirements, and I think there has to be complete 124 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: reform taken and we have to make it clear that 125 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 2: the only way, the only pathway to citizenship is when 126 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: you come here and you present yourself and you express 127 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: a desire to become a US citizen. And in addition 128 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: to expressing a desire to become a US citizen, you 129 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: have a skill set which will support you as a 130 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: US citizen. In the old days, they didn't care if 131 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 2: you had a skill set, but you had to have 132 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: a relative here who would vouch for your support. Well, 133 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 2: I think that what we need now is to say, hey, 134 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: if we need doctors and nurses and there are people 135 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 2: anywhere from around the world who have those qualifications, they 136 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 2: go to the head of the citizenship line. Pretty simple. 137 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 2: We basically screen people and if there are people who 138 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 2: are coming here who are artistic and we feel that 139 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: there's a need for people who are artistic, that's fine, 140 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 2: but that should be decided on a case by case base. 141 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 2: And I know it's going to be probably someone's going 142 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: to argue that, well, that's awkward and probably unrealistic. But 143 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 2: I think we need to protect the value of an 144 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: American citizen and not cheapen it so that anybody in 145 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 2: the world can come here. The Biden administration kept the 146 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: borders of the United States wide open, wide open for 147 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 2: four years. I believe they did that because they wanted 148 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 2: to infuse the country with people from other parts of 149 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 2: the world. They were losing the support of certain voters 150 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: who had traditionally been Democratic. You've seen that the Republicans 151 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 2: have now won support from African American voters, black voters, 152 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: from Hispanic voters, and I think the Democrats are saying, 153 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 2: we have to reinforce those who would be voting Democratic, 154 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: and we're going to make it easier for people to 155 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 2: come in here, just walk in here and become US citizens. 156 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 2: So I'd like to hear from you the idea of 157 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: birthright citizenship. I know that there are some laws on 158 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: the books that you're not supposed to fly here, come 159 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 2: here for the purpose of having a child here. But 160 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 2: it's pretty vague, I'm told, at least in articles. I'm 161 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 2: looking at one out of the USA Today here, which 162 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: is not a conservative right wing sheet newspaper. Women were 163 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: coached that says companies with names like USA Happy Baby 164 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 2: and Star BabyCare offered a shepherd pregnant women from China 165 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 2: or any other country into the US to give birth 166 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 2: to children recognized as US citizens before returning home. Women 167 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,359 Speaker 2: were coached to wear backy clothing to hide their pregnancies 168 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 2: and mislead customs officials about how long they would stay. 169 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 2: According to federal criminal indictments against the enterprises, Star BabyCare 170 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 2: said it's set on its website it provided services eight 171 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 2: thousand pregnant women spanning twenty years. That's just one company. US. 172 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 2: Happy Baby set a charge VP customers up to one 173 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars. Do you want want to see the 174 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 2: value of your legitimate US citizenship, which you know you 175 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 2: should value above all else. I mean, you have a 176 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 2: lot of things in your life to value, your faith 177 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 2: and your family, but your U. S citizenship? Or do 178 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 2: you want to see that diluted so that the US 179 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 2: citizens become anyone who just gets here and decides to 180 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 2: have a child six seven two five four ten thirty 181 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 2: six one seven nine three one ten thirty. There's been 182 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 2: a lot of changes. You know, a lot of the 183 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 2: members of the bar who will argue in front of 184 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 2: the U. S. Supreme Court say, well, circumstances change, and 185 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: the Constitution, which was a great document written in seventeen 186 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 2: eighty seven, the Declaration of Independence, and all of that 187 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 2: which preceded the Constitution, they are documents that need to 188 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 2: be willing to change with the times. Well, none of 189 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 2: the founders and none of the Supreme Court justices in 190 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 2: eighteen ninety six or eighteen ninety eight when that decision 191 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 2: that I referred to earlier came down, none of them 192 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 2: were contemplating the idea of airplanes and birthright tourism. So 193 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: seems to me that something needs to be done. If 194 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 2: you called in last night and were on the line 195 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 2: holding last night, we'll give you some priority. If you're not. 196 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 2: I got some open lines one at six one seven, 197 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 2: two five four ten thirty and one at six one seven, 198 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 2: nine three one ten thirty. And I'd like to hear 199 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 2: from women on this, particularly because it's women who bear children. 200 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: And you know, I admire the Chinese mothers who decide 201 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 2: they want to try to come here. Obviously late in 202 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 2: their pregnancy. They're not coming here when they're two and 203 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: three months pregnant and staying here for six months. They're 204 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 2: coming here in their eighth month or in their ninth 205 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 2: month of pregnancy. Uh, and they're come spending a lot 206 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 2: of money to achieve citizenship for their children. I think 207 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 2: they're smart. They've found a loophole and they are They're 208 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 2: driving a truck through the loophole. Come back on the nightside, 209 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 2: right afrom this on a Friday night. 210 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:07,839 Speaker 1: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's 211 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: news radio. 212 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 2: We'll get everybody in, I promise him. By the way, 213 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 2: remember the twentieth hour approaches with about thirty five minutes 214 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 2: from now, and everyone has a hall pass for the 215 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: twentieth hours, So if you called earlier this week, you 216 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 2: can call in the twentieth hour. Linda from North Weymouth 217 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: was on hold last night at about eleven fifty five. So, Linda, 218 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: as I promised to put you the head of the line, 219 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 2: what's your thought on birthright citizenship? 220 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 3: Yes, thank you, Dan, I'm one hundred percent in your 221 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 3: way of thinking. But my question is I have two sure. 222 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 3: One is. 223 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: How do you. 224 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 3: How do you put this into a pect? How do 225 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 3: you bypass those the Supreme Court don't they have the 226 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 3: final say? 227 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 2: Yes they do. However, the way to bypass it would 228 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 2: be under the Constitution. There is a way to amend 229 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 2: the Constitution. It's Article five of the Constitution, and I'll 230 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: try to make it simple, Okay, It said the Constitution 231 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 2: whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary. 232 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: That means the House and the Senate shall propose to 233 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 2: this Constitution, or on the application of the legislatures of 234 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 2: two thirds of the several states. So that's the way 235 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 2: it can be done. Either two thirds of the states. 236 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: That would be two thirds of the fifty states, which 237 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 2: would mean thirty five. I believe we'd get you to 238 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 2: the two thirds number, thirty five, maybe thirty thirty four, 239 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 2: might as well shall call a convention for proposing amendments, 240 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 2: in which either case shall be valid to all intents 241 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: and purposes as part of this Constitution, when ratified by 242 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 2: the legislatures of three forts of the federal States, or 243 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 2: by conventions in three forts thereof, as the one or 244 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 2: the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress, 245 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 2: turning it into everyday language as opposed language from them 246 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 2: from the from from the eighteenth century. Basically, there's a procedure. 247 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 2: Either you can start it with two thirds of the 248 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 2: Senate and two thirds of the House, or if you 249 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 2: have two thirds of the state legislatures, So that would 250 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 2: be one way, or you could have three quarters of 251 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 2: the state legislatures. Uh, they would they would need to ratify. 252 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 2: It's it's complicated, it's cumbersome. It was it was intended 253 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 2: to be. I think that the Uh, it'll be interesting 254 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 2: to see what the US Supreme Court does. My suspicion 255 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 2: is that they are going to uphold the concept of 256 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 2: birthright citizens citizenship based upon the questions in the back 257 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: and forth that they had with the lawyers. And it 258 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: was on Wednesday. This has been one of those weeks 259 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 2: where I forget what day it is. 260 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 3: Right, So it's no I was, you know, I was 261 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 3: watching that and it was very frustrating for me because 262 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 3: I'm saying, way, you can't. Can't they understand this, you know? 263 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 3: But there they're they're very thick headed. 264 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 2: Well they're there. They have they have to respect prior decisions. 265 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 2: It's called starry decisives. But the court has on occasion. Look, 266 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 2: there are there are cases where the court overturns a 267 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 2: prior decision. I mean, certainly dred Scott was overturned by 268 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 2: by by the fourteenth Amendment, but there are there are 269 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 2: other other cases Plusy versus Ferguson, which was the Separate 270 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 2: but Equal decision of eighteen ninety six, the same court 271 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 2: did separate but equal. So they were wrong on separate 272 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 2: but equal. I would argue they were wrong in this 273 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: case as well. Uh, they overturned Plussy versus Ferguson in 274 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 2: nineteen fifty four with the the school case Brown versus 275 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: Board of Education. It's complicated, It's very complicated, it is, 276 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 2: but it is. 277 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 3: But can't they see though that that that that these 278 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 3: people their their their intent isn't too is an effical 279 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 3: to come over here, you know, and and the main 280 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 3: purpose is is it's just to give grip to a child. 281 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 2: So well, what they do is there's a loophole and 282 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 2: unless the Supreme Court wants to somehow close that loophole, 283 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 2: that loophole is going to be taking advantage on of 284 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 2: by people who looking at it as as an opportunity. 285 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, you know, maybe this should be 286 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 2: an issue in the in the upcoming next presidential election, 287 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 2: should be an issue in the congressional election. It's an 288 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 2: issue that I think a lot of the Democrats are avoiding, 289 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 2: and they're letting the Supreme court do the dirty work. 290 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 2: The Republicans need to. I think if they really believe 291 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: as deeply as they seem to believe in this, I 292 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 2: think they need to go to the wall and say, look, 293 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 2: this is one that we're going to run on as 294 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 2: a as a part of our national platform. 295 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 4: Right, all right, thank you? 296 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 3: And that one not a question I was going to 297 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 3: ask you, is are we're the only country that has 298 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 3: this law? 299 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 2: No? Certain country. No, there are other countries around the world. 300 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 2: For example, Canada and Mexico both have what they call 301 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 2: birthright citizenship, but most of the countries in Europe have 302 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 2: got if they ever had it, they've gotten rid of it. 303 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,959 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of countries that have said we 304 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 2: want nothing to do with this. I think, uh, I 305 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 2: believe that Brazil, major country in South America, does not 306 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 2: have birthright citizenship or maybe no, I think they have it, 307 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 2: But then Chile doesn't have it. So different countries have 308 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 2: different rules on this. But I can tell you that 309 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 2: we're part. This country is traditionally a European based country. 310 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 2: It's a it's a country that is founded on what 311 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 2: we call Western values, and most of the European countries 312 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 2: have gotten rid of it if they ever had it. 313 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: So I think we should follow follow the elite on 314 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 2: this one, that's for sure. Hey, Linda, have a great weekend, 315 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 2: Happy Easter. 316 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 3: Okay, thank you to you and thank you, thank you, Dan, 317 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 3: God bless very welcome. 318 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. We'll be back right after the break. 319 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 2: Here at Nightside, I will get everyone interest me, Ted, 320 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 2: John and will you guys are all set. The only 321 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: lines open are six, one, seven, nine, three, one, ten 322 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 2: thirty and you fill those up. We'll get those folks 323 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 2: in as well. Thank you guys for calling early. We'll 324 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 2: get you in coming right back on Nightside. 325 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: You're on night Side with Dan Ray, I'm Boston's News. 326 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 2: We'll let me go to Ted and aver Ted next 327 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 2: on Nightside. Your thoughts on birthright citizenship. 328 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 5: Hey, Dan, I've college you quite a bit. I've been 329 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 5: very lucky to be tip O'Neil when he was alive 330 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 5: as a young man. I know a ton about this 331 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 5: with immigration because I work in a business fill with immigrants. 332 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 5: I married an immigrant from Italy who when she came 333 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 5: in it was different, didn't see her family for five years, 334 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 5: came over, went to English school, which should still exist, 335 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 5: tested into high school. I got her her green cut. 336 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 5: I met her. I was a teen suicide comper when 337 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 5: I spoke at her school. I got her her green thought. 338 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 5: Where she's from, the women are known for being ultra stubborn. 339 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 5: Never ever got her citizenship. I begged her she gets pregnant. 340 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 5: I have ted Kennedy's immigration person right to her, and 341 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 5: she was great. And she said to my wife an email, 342 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 5: you got to get your citizenship for two reasons. Number one, 343 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 5: as the lost stands now, if your husband died before you, 344 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 5: you will lose forty percent of his benefit. Number Two, 345 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 5: you never know what's going to happen in immigration. In 346 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 5: twenty nineteen, the Trump administration pulled her green Cod. It 347 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 5: was a mistake. I think I called you before and 348 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 5: said I wouldn't vote for Liz Warrene if she gave 349 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 5: me two million in cash. I was arguing on the phone, 350 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 5: or immigration person, I'm like idiot. They changed im the 351 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 5: green cad Laura ninety one for the tech workers from Asia. 352 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 5: Her green Cod's good forever. I wrote to the President. 353 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 5: I did everything, no help, so she can't go anywhere. 354 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 5: Now I have her case fast tracked, and surprise, surprise, 355 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 5: my senator who's now running for reelection. 356 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 6: Who didn't help me at O nineteen, couldn't. 357 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 5: Wait to get involved this year. What a shock? Right, Well, 358 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 5: so it's just it could be fixed. I could fix 359 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 5: it easily. The thing you said about birthright, what scary 360 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 5: about China? 361 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 4: They're doing that. 362 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 5: To spy on us. Who do is what you do 363 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 5: is you don't have birthright citizenship? You have something we're 364 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 5: at eighteen. If they're here thinking, you know, with good records, 365 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 5: you go for. 366 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 7: A green cod and then you wait. 367 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 5: And then on and on. The only thing I disagree 368 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 5: with you on politely is as I'm not a Democrat 369 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 5: and never will be because they're feckless and they're woke. 370 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 5: I'll never be a Republican because they're nuts. Langford and 371 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,479 Speaker 5: Oklahoma did have a bipartisan bill the February before the election. 372 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 5: Trump squashed it because he needed a bad look of 373 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 5: the border, which helped him get elected. Now he is 374 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 5: not the guy. All they had to do was putting 375 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 5: for a constitutional amendment. But most of the people in 376 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 5: this country don't know what civics is. I've had people 377 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 5: argue with me that my wife's a citizen. I'm like, 378 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 5: are you in your. 379 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 2: Mind, So, okay, Ted, without I hope that if Senator 380 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 2: Warren's office is willing to help you, but you'll take 381 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 2: that help. 382 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 5: I passed him, I went, I went to a and 383 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 5: I don't want to say the name. 384 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 4: You'll know it. 385 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 5: I went to another senator who has the reputation of 386 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 5: being pretty easy going, but not now he's got somebody 387 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 5: running against him. 388 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 2: So is this Well, there's only two senators. So if 389 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 2: you mean if you send to Rocky, that's fine. And 390 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 2: has he helped you, that's right. If he's helped you. 391 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 5: I haven't talked to him personally. When I went to 392 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,959 Speaker 5: the JFK building two months ago. Unfortunately, I'm having a 393 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 5: major IRSs issue with my ex employer. Then I went 394 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 5: up to immigration. I could tell you for a fact 395 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 5: because I got the test in twenty twenty one. In 396 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 5: twenty twenty one, the citizenship test was still based on Hitler, 397 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 5: which was a joke. 398 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 2: Okay, let me let me Ted, let me let me Ted, 399 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 2: let me see Ted, let me suggest this. Okay, Sure, 400 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 2: if you have trouble reaching Markey's office, take my number 401 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 2: from Rob give me a call and I can give 402 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 2: you a contact there. If you're having trouble. 403 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 5: But if you oh, no, I'm not having trouble. I 404 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 5: got their immigration person, wonderful kid. 405 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 2: Good. Okay, let's say let's leave it at that. I 406 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 2: gotta got to keep rolling him because I got people 407 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 2: I couldn't get to last night, and I want to 408 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 2: get to all of you. Okay, you please hook. 409 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 5: Me up with Rob though, please and have him go 410 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:08,959 Speaker 5: hang up for me. 411 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 2: Sure, Rob, don't hang up, Give Ted whatever he needs. Okay, 412 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 2: let me go next to Will down in Long Island. 413 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 2: Will you're next on nightside. Thanks for coming back from 414 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 2: last night. 415 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 6: No problem. You know, last night I was listening to 416 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 6: the discussion between Roberts and the attorney, and I remember 417 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 6: thinking to myself as soon as he said, well, it's 418 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 6: a new world. Yeah, and Roberts quickly was like, but 419 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 6: it's the same Constitution. And I was a little surprised 420 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 6: he got started up there, because I would have said, 421 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 6: well then, I mean, I guess, of course i'd have 422 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 6: to work on my addressing a Supreme Court justice. But 423 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 6: by that logic, I could have a tank, right, because 424 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 6: if no interpretations of the Constitution are necessarily it's amazing 425 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 6: how you become an originalist when you feel it's appropriate. 426 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 2: Yes, but yeah, yeah, right. 427 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 6: And you know, so I could have a tank, I 428 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 6: could say whatever I want, I could yell fire in 429 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 6: a crowded movie theater. There's lots of interpretations you have 430 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 6: made that are outside because you think it wasn't the 431 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,959 Speaker 6: intention of the founding father. I can't have a nuclear bomb, okay, 432 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 6: but now we could get the story's decisives. 433 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 2: Also. 434 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 6: Story decisives, in my opinion, was kind of a little 435 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 6: thrown out the window when they decided to overturn Roe v. Wade. 436 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 6: And their thought process is, if a decision is so 437 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 6: egregious that it has to be overturned, we cannot go 438 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 6: by precedent because we set a bad precedent in the 439 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 6: first place. And I agree with that a huge extent. 440 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 6: Then you'll have. 441 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 2: As a way if they wanted to turn this around. 442 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 2: I mean, the court, the City US Supreme Court, has 443 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 2: the ability to overturn prior decisions. Well, here's good. 444 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 6: Here's what I think is the biggest crux in the case. 445 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 6: Because they like to argue you know, the slaughter house 446 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 6: cases and you know the Chinese, you know case the eighteen. 447 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,959 Speaker 6: I don't forget what that was ninety eight or somewhere 448 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 6: that ary eighteen seventy something. But the biggest case to 449 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 6: me that I don't hear brought up a lot, and 450 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 6: you probably would hear it more, but the public doesn't 451 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 6: hear about a lot is Elk versus Wilkins, where an 452 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 6: American Indian talk about being born here. Okay, an American 453 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 6: Indian was denied citizenship. 454 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 2: Because his twenty four case go ahead. 455 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 6: Well, the nineteen twenty four case. Actually the case was 456 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 6: in the eighteen hundreds, but the legislation that we passed 457 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 6: to make all American Indians came in nineteen twenty four. 458 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 6: So if the fourteenth Amendment applied in the eighteen hundreds 459 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 6: when the case he was denied because his allegiance was 460 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 6: to they decided that that idea of subject to the 461 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 6: jurisdiction thereof was, you know, not just the laws like 462 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 6: you can't kill somebody on our soil. Yes, you're subject 463 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 6: to those, but your allegiance is subject to the United States. 464 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 2: Alliance was to his tribe. 465 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 6: Was to his tribe, right, So let me ask you 466 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 6: a question. Then, in nineteen twenty four, why would they 467 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 6: have to pass legislation to make all American Indians that 468 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 6: are born on this soil way before us. Why would 469 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 6: they have to past legislation if the Fourteenth Amendment language 470 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 6: applied and that was almost that was one hundred years ago. 471 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 6: So I'm no attorney then you know that, you know, 472 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 6: I just like to read and I argue really good. 473 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 6: But if that were the case, if that were the 474 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 6: case one hundred years ago, that you had to have. 475 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 6: Even in the Chinese case, right, they ruled that they 476 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 6: had to have some like legal standing here. It wasn't 477 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 6: like you could just jump across the border illegally have 478 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 6: a baby put abum, and it had to be that way. 479 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 6: You had to have some type of legal residency even then. 480 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 6: So how could we go so far backwards now and 481 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 6: say that somebody can take a plane here, pop in here, 482 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 6: pop out a baby, and then all of a sudden 483 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 6: say oh, they're a citizen. And now the argument for 484 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 6: them is, well, you could deport the parents exactly what 485 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 6: they don't want us to do. It's funny you could 486 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 6: deport the parents and not the child. So we're supposed 487 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 6: to be more savage than we're supposed to deport parents 488 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 6: and make the child be a citizen. That's absolutely ridiculous, 489 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 6: and it's just the way to circumvent the basis of 490 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 6: this real argument. Thanks Dan, I appreciate. 491 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 2: It well, appreciate it. Appreciate your explanation. Excellent. Glad you 492 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 2: called back. Thanks again. We'll talk to you okay, bye, Thanks, 493 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 2: six thirty one line there, six one, seven, nine three, 494 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 2: ten thirty. We will talk about this until about ten 495 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 2: fifty eight, So if you want to call in, we 496 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 2: will get you on I promise, and then we will 497 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 2: go to the twentieth hour and we will take all 498 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 2: the serious stuff and put it away. Not sure what 499 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to do tonight. In the twentieth hour, we 500 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 2: didn't get I don't think today Marita at four thirty 501 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 2: didn't get a suggestion. So you know what what I'll 502 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 2: be thinking. If I don't come up with something great, 503 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 2: then I'm I'm going to believe me I'll have something 504 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 2: great for you. By eleven o five, we're coming back 505 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 2: on Night's side. John is next, followed by Peter and 506 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 2: Littleton and I can get both. They will both get 507 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 2: in easily, and if you would like to try give 508 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 2: it a shot. You have the numbers back on Night 509 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 2: Side after this. 510 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm telling you bes Boston's 511 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: News Radio. 512 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go next to John and Boston. Hey, John, 513 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 2: welcome back next time. Night's Side One. 514 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 4: Shawn Howe, you mentioned the Chinese so good Evening One, 515 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 4: Shawn Howe, you know, I think, like you said, when 516 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 4: it was written some years ago, the fourteenth Amendment, I 517 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 4: don't think they had any idea that it would be 518 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 4: abused as it is today. And I think it's being 519 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 4: abused the anchor baby, you know, because once the anchor 520 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 4: baby is a citizen, then they get all kinds of free, free, 521 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 4: free freebees from the government in taxpayers. 522 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 2: Well, in reality, the only thing they're getting. I mean, 523 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 2: if the anchor baby stays, then the anchor baby ends up, 524 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 2: you know, go and being able to go to the Paris, 525 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 2: take them to the hospital. I think a lot of 526 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 2: these parents take the children back to China, that they 527 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 2: take them back with a US birth certificate. I don't 528 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 2: know how it breaks down, but if they do, but 529 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 2: if they do stay, you're right, if they do stay, 530 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 2: they're going to be able to if the baby gets sick, 531 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 2: go to a hospital, treat them in an emergency room, 532 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 2: go to public schools, everything. Yes, you're absolutely right in. 533 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 4: Boom god, in free housing if they want it free, free, free, 534 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 4: but not only telling, I mean, you know, all kinds, 535 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 4: because it should be changed. Your mother is a citizen 536 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 4: and your father is a citizen, then your assitisen. That's 537 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 4: the way it needs to be changed, amended. So if 538 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 4: your mother and father are a US citizen, then you 539 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 4: are a U a citizen. That needs to be changed 540 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 4: to that effect. 541 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 2: Right, unless the court overturns this line of cases, which 542 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 2: they could do. But unless the court overturns the line 543 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 2: of cases, I don't know that a statute is going 544 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 2: to overturn a line of Supreme Court cases. And I'm 545 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 2: talking specifically about the one kim Arc case of eighteen 546 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 2: ninety eight. 547 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 4: Well, it's just definitely be an abuse. It needs to 548 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 4: be changed. Your mother and father has to be assitizen 549 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 4: for you to be a citizen inborn here, okay, born here, 550 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 4: but the mony Okay. 551 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't disagree with you, John, that that is 552 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 2: for sure. 553 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 4: I mean, last year I wrote a medical the President 554 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 4: of Italy and the Prime Minister because my family became Italy, 555 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 4: asking to meet with them talking about the citizenship and 556 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 4: still calling and saying there's no reply at all. It's 557 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 4: not easy to get a citizenship in another country. I 558 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 4: would have loved to talk about. 559 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 2: Well, well, wait a second, I don't know anything about Italy. 560 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 2: But in Ireland, if you you're. 561 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 4: Born, you know your parents are Italian, then you're not 562 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 4: a citizen, or that's the way it goes. 563 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 3: No. 564 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 2: What I'm saying to you is, do you have a 565 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 2: grandparent who was born in Italy? 566 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 4: All of them were grandparents? Okay, okay, Well. 567 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 2: Can I make Can I make a suggestion to you, John, Yeah, 568 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 2: there would There is an Italian consulate in Boston. I 569 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 2: would suggest you call there and and irel. I'm an 570 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 2: Irish citizen through my grandfather because I was able to 571 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 2: go to the Irish consulate in Boston, and I think 572 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 2: the Italian consulate rules are the same. I was able 573 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 2: to go there, prove who I was, prove who my 574 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 2: parents were, prove that my father was the son of 575 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 2: my grandfather who was born in Ireland. And the law 576 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 2: in Ireland, if it's similar in Italy, you should be 577 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 2: able to get an Italian citizenship if that's what you want, 578 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 2: pretty easily through the Italian consulate in Boston. 579 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 4: Well I met, I met the consulate in person. Who 580 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 4: aft June first, there was a festival when meden face 581 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 4: to face. I gave my name number, never heard from again. 582 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 2: Well again, you know, John, here's the deal, Okay. I 583 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 2: can make a hundred suggestions to you, and you can 584 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 2: shoot down every one of the suggestions. I'm telling you 585 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 2: that what you should do. You have time, find out 586 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 2: the address of the Italian consul and go there and 587 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 2: present yourself. 588 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 4: Walk in the building. You gotta, you know, go to 589 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 4: all kinds of red cap to get an appointment. I 590 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 4: met him in person. He was a conflict, right, But. 591 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 2: John, you know what again, you don't want a solution 592 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 2: to your problem. You want to tell me that that 593 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 2: you met, You met the guy in the street at 594 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 2: a festival. How many other people do you think he 595 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 2: met that day? John, I'm not gonna waste time with 596 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,760 Speaker 2: you on that one. If you follow, if you really 597 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 2: want your Italian citizenship, do it that way, do it 598 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 2: that way. I think you'll have success. 599 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 4: Well, the point is, it's not easy to get a 600 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 4: citizenship in another country. 601 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 2: Oh Kenny. It wasn't easy for me either. I had 602 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 2: to get all sorts of records. I'm agreeing with you, John, 603 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 2: and we're fighting. All I'm trying to do is help 604 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 2: you and explain to you that my experience would probably 605 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 2: be similar to yours, because I think Italy has the 606 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 2: same sort of rules and regulations as Ireland. I got 607 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 2: to run because I got other callers. I got to 608 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 2: get to Thank you, John, and best of luck, keep 609 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 2: me posted. Okay, thank you. Sometimes you can't help people. 610 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 2: Peter and Littleton, Hey, Peter, welcome. 611 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 7: Hi Dan, can you hear me? 612 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 6: All right? 613 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 2: I can hear you. Fine, Yeah, we have a problem 614 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 2: with that one of those other lines. And if Rob 615 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 2: asked you to call back, that's why go right. 616 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 4: Ahead, Okay. 617 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 7: I think the issue has been made much more complicated 618 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,439 Speaker 7: than it has to be. And the reason I say 619 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 7: that is when the Framers built the Constitution, they installed 620 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 7: one sentence line. This is what I started to bring 621 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 7: up last night when the show ended. But it's to 622 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 7: call the preamble. It's just one sentence and if you 623 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 7: listen carefully to the words, it explains everything, and it 624 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 7: also leads gives a much better understanding of what you 625 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,879 Speaker 7: read later on in the Constitution. And it starts off 626 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 7: with the people of the United States. In other words, 627 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 7: already of the United States to under to form a 628 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 7: more perfect union, established justice, ensure domestic tranquiity, provide for 629 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,760 Speaker 7: the common defense, promote the general welfare. Here is the kicker. 630 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 7: Secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity. 631 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:04,240 Speaker 7: Do ordained and established this Constitution for the United States 632 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 7: of America. There's no other country mentioned. And in fact, 633 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 7: the Constitution was made for citizens. Now, if you go 634 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 7: to the fourteenth Amendment and you read the text of 635 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,399 Speaker 7: the fourteenth Amendment, and you imagine in eighteen sixty five, 636 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 7: as you mentioned on the show, the Civil War ended, 637 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 7: and you had now four and a half million black people, 638 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 7: four hundred of them more slaves. The other half million 639 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 7: were there either three men that were citizens or had 640 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 7: fought in the Union army. And you read them in 641 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 7: that sense. That's exactly why the fourteenth Amendment was made. 642 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 7: You know, had four and a half million people running 643 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 7: around the country that were not citizens but were no 644 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 7: longer slaves. So that attempted to straighten it all out. 645 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 7: And they say, if you're a member, well let me 646 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,720 Speaker 7: read it. All persons born or naturalized in the United States. 647 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 7: Some of these slaves were here since the original European 648 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 7: countries to establish this country, before we establish our independence, 649 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 7: they've been here for generation. 650 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 2: Sure, absolutely, absolutely, absolutely correct, go ahead, but we're running 651 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 2: out of time, Peter. 652 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 7: The United States, and subject to jurisdiction thereof are citizens 653 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 7: of the United States and of the states wherein they lie. Well, 654 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,399 Speaker 7: a person coming across the southern border and saying here 655 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 7: I am doesn't qualify for any of that. And and 656 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 7: whether you come from a slow boat or a fast 657 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 7: boat from China, or an airplane or a spaceship, it doesn't. 658 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 7: This has no bearing because so. 659 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 2: Peter, Peter, you're not a lawyer, and and I respect 660 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 2: that you're No, no, no, I'm not criticizing you. I 661 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 2: very much respect your opinion. And I think that that 662 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 2: is as an argument that I don't think has been made. 663 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 2: And I wish that the president's lawyer had incorporated some 664 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 2: of that in his in his argument, because I think 665 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 2: the preamble is part of the Constitution, and I think 666 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 2: that your your comment, which we had time for tonight, 667 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 2: is a brilliant comment, and maybe lawyers better than me. Well, 668 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 2: we'll pass that along to the White House, and there 669 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 2: might be other other filings. But but I think I 670 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 2: think you've made a great argument, and I want to 671 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 2: thank you for it. 672 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 7: On my minor point that would add on to that, 673 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 7: there's actually no part in the Constitution that ever even 674 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 7: mentions immigration, except for the part that says that Congress 675 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 7: shall have the ability to change the rules of immigration, 676 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,320 Speaker 7: and that's it doesn't It doesn't directly refer to immigration 677 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 7: at all. 678 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 2: I understand that, Peter, Peter, we could run a law 679 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,919 Speaker 2: school class on that, but unfortunately I don't have time, 680 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,399 Speaker 2: and I am now up against the eleven o'clock news. 681 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 2: I'm glad I got you in. I'm glad you called 682 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 2: that opportunity and keep calling it. Don't hesitate to bring 683 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 2: this issue up again. Thank you so much Again. When 684 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 2: we come back after the eleven o'clock news, I know 685 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 2: what I want to do, and I will tell you 686 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 2: at eleven oh five. Stay with us on night side. 687 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 2: The twenty thous awaits on the other side.