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Speaker 2: There's a problem here and we're going to dive into it.

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Speaker 2: Marxists are trying to take over our country. They may succeed,

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Speaker 2: and while that's happening, the most influential conservative commentators are

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Speaker 2: arguing about each other. That's the problem. We're going to

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Speaker 2: dive into that in the first segment of today's program.

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Speaker 2: I had this plan over the weekend, and of course

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Speaker 2: this plan over the weekend to devote the entire Monday

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Speaker 2: podcast Today's podcast to two stories. So had this joke. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: we're not going to do what I plan to do,

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Speaker 2: but I have this. I still have the joke in

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Speaker 2: my mind, and now I can't use the joke. And

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Speaker 2: you know how it is when I can't use a joke,

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Speaker 2: When something funny occurs to me, I feel the need

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Speaker 2: to tell the joke anyway, even if it doesn't apply,

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Speaker 2: because I mean, it's just otherwise it's flopping around in

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Speaker 2: my brain useless. So now I have to do it.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, this is a two story podcast.

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Speaker 2: Two stories. You have to walk up the steps to

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Speaker 2: get to the second one. It's a stupid joke. It's

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Speaker 2: amazing that it's amazing that I felt the need to

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Speaker 2: mostly because they were so stupid. Johnny Carson was pretty

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Speaker 2: There are two huge stories that we're going to kind

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Speaker 2: of at least my podcast standards, do a deep dive into,

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Speaker 2: and some other stories that I want to cover. We're

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Speaker 2: going to open with the one that I just mentioned

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Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you what's going on here, and

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Speaker 2: we're going to dive into it in some depth, and

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Speaker 2: then I'm going to give you my theory as to

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Speaker 2: why it's going on. For those of you who were

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Speaker 2: not listeners to my old radio show, I talked all

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Speaker 2: the time about you have to know the why. You

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Speaker 2: have to figure out the why to understand the what.

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Speaker 2: Here's the why. There has been over the last several

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Speaker 2: months a growing rift. Isn't the right word. War might

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Speaker 2: be the right word between some of the most important

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Speaker 2: but the other sphere of conservative commentators, primarily podcasters people

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Speaker 2: like me, but at the highest level of this, have

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Speaker 2: been engaging in open warfare. And as I said at

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Speaker 2: the beginning, you can't possibly miss the point any worse

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Speaker 2: than this. For the first time in my lifetime, and

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Speaker 2: think the first time ever. The Red scare during the

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Speaker 2: McCarthy era, it was very unlikely that the Communists, the

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Speaker 2: Marxism has taken hold and it is growing in popularity.

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Speaker 2: You take a look and you can say, no, all

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Speaker 2: When you take a look at the blowback from Democrats

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Speaker 2: attacking one another. Now, before I dive into this, there

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Speaker 2: They have a lot that they agree with in common,

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Speaker 2: The way that I'm going to dive into and illustrate

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Speaker 2: Megan Kelly had a two day event in which she

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Speaker 2: separate cases here, but all of this is related. The

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Speaker 2: first one is Candae Owans. No again, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: nuanced than that. For example, she's done this expose on

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Speaker 2: which is I think the most important conservative organization to

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Speaker 2: and he's been very critical of Candice Owen's. Meghan's role

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Speaker 2: that you need to aim your criticism at the Marxists

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Speaker 3: I think that what Candie Owns is doing right now

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Speaker 3: is evil. It is evil what she is doing right now. Okay,

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Speaker 3: and I say that again, but what because like.

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Speaker 4: I don't know pine on whether it's evil or not.

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Speaker 4: But my position is it's really none of my business,

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Speaker 3: But I have a question, why is it none of

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Speaker 3: a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I'm not mother of the Internet.

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Speaker 3: No, But if this were on the left and somebody

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Speaker 3: She's accusing TPUSA insiders and other members of the right wing,

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Speaker 2: Yes, all right, that summary by Shapiro is essentially accurate.

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Speaker 2: There's a backstory here. Candace Owen's at one point almost

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Speaker 2: to what happened there. Candace Owens is being deliberately provocative

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Speaker 2: it would be devastating to the conservative movement. That's the

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Speaker 4: So now, having spoken to Tucker, I actually see that

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Speaker 3: But again we can agree to disagree on your interpretation

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Speaker 4: I didn't say it was aggressive.

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Speaker 4: Point was this guy, first of all, he's become a behemoth. Sadly,

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Speaker 4: This is all before Tucker Carlson and he was platformed

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Speaker 4: Okay, but my point is simply he's growing, He's growing

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Speaker 4: That makes the audience feel good because you have hand

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'll tell you what doesn't change Nick Flent's his view.

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Speaker 3: Tucker Carlson was his arm around Nick Flents grinning for

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Speaker 2: He took that back. You can't take that back. How

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Speaker 3: You should explain how Christian Zionists are actually wonderful people.

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Speaker 2: so on. No, it goes on and said that was stupid.

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Speaker 3: Lindsay Graham fan. He votes with the President of the

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Speaker 3: United States one hundred percent of the time, and Tucker

436
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Speaker 3: spent yesterday's show excoriating him as a psychosexual death worshiper.

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Speaker 3: Does that sound like firing outside the tent?

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Speaker 2: Again? Not offended?

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Speaker 3: Again the questions that I'm asking here, I'm not asking

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Speaker 3: you to do anything, Megan. I know our beef is

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Speaker 3: not with each I'm not okay when I draw a

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Speaker 3: line with regards to what I believe Tucker Carlson is

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Speaker 3: doing to the conservative movement and what he is fomenting.

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Speaker 2: That is because that is.

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Speaker 3: And everyone can make their own decision as to whether

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Speaker 3: they think that I am right or whether I'm wrong,

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Speaker 3: and where they choose to draw the line with regard

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Speaker 3: to the conservative movement. The question for me is always

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Speaker 3: whether somebody's statements are forwarding moral values that I think

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Speaker 3: are worthwhile. I did not get into this business for

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Speaker 3: the money or for the clicks.

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Speaker 2: You didn't neither.

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Speaker 3: Why did he was that?

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Speaker 2: Neither did he?

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Speaker 3: I mean he may not have That's fine. I certainly

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Speaker 3: did not. I'm only going to speak for myself, and

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Speaker 3: what that means for me is that if I see

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Speaker 3: somebody breach basic moral values by having on a Nazi

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Speaker 3: and in my own view, you can take your own view.

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Speaker 3: In my own view, Gloss the Nazi, then I'm going

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Speaker 3: to speak out about that, and I'm going to point

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Speaker 3: out that there is a long pattern of him ideologically

463
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Speaker 3: laundering terrible ideas over the course of the last two years,

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Speaker 3: ranging from traveling to Russia to sniff the bread and

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Speaker 3: explain why the Russian regime is actually wonderful, two saying

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Speaker 3: last week that the Venezuelan regime of Nicholas Maduro is

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Speaker 3: actually not that bad because they're being attacked by, in

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Speaker 3: his words, globo homo. Tucker's made the point.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to hear it be Tucker's defender, but

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Speaker 4: he's made the point that Maduro is culturally conservative.

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Speaker 3: Who gives us shit? The guy's a communist dictator. Everyone

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Speaker 3: in his country's eating dog. He's shipping Fentanel to the

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Speaker 3: United States to kill Americans. Why don't give us shit

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Speaker 3: Whether he's whether he's anti LGBTQ, right, this is the

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Speaker 3: number one thing about Nicolas Manduro. You know, farm down

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Speaker 3: the list you have to get before you can get

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Speaker 3: to anything remotely recommendable about Nicholas Maduro.

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Speaker 2: All right, they got into at the end. Maduro, for

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Speaker 2: those of you not aware, is the dictator of Venezuela,

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Speaker 2: and Tucker Carlson has been somewhat sympathetic forward him. Now

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Speaker 2: a couple of points of this. I've had a theory

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Speaker 2: that I've expressed for thirty six years here start dating

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Speaker 2: back to the old radio show, that the political spectrum

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Speaker 2: is not aligned words when you go to the far

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Speaker 2: far far far far left like Mamdani and maybe even

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Speaker 2: a little bit beyond him far left, aoc Jasmin Procket

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Speaker 2: fire left, and then you go to the far far

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Speaker 2: far far far far right, so the Proud Boys or

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Speaker 2: not Nazis nick Fundes would be in there. That they're

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Speaker 2: not at the ends of a line that is a

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Speaker 2: circle that if you go far enough left or far

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Speaker 2: enough right, you bang into one another. I've contended that forever.

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Speaker 2: You've heard me contend that, and I think this is

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Speaker 2: proof of this. Now my own view, just in analyzing

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Speaker 2: Tucker is is that I think that Tucker is I'm

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Speaker 2: not supportive but somewhat sympathetic of this democratic socialist movement,

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Speaker 2: the Marxist movement. I didn't say supportive, somewhat apathetic because

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Speaker 2: they share the same kind of disgust for rich elites,

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Speaker 2: billionaires and so on. Tucker has said, for example, that

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Speaker 2: it's unfair to say that Mamdanni is anti Semitic. Well,

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Speaker 2: you know, Shapiro will go on a great length to

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Speaker 2: put on all the things that he said on that. Well,

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Speaker 2: why is Tucker spending any time saying all these good

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Speaker 2: things with regard to Mamdani. I think that you see

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Speaker 2: in the case of Tucker that he has moved far

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Speaker 2: enough away from some conservative beliefs in his general loathing

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Speaker 2: of elitist and I loathe elitis myself, that he's moving

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Speaker 2: over in which he sort of banging in to that

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Speaker 2: side of this. And I think you will find if

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Speaker 2: you looked at the voting in New York that a

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Speaker 2: lot of people who voted for Trump voted for Mandanni,

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Speaker 2: that they were both weirdly anti establishment type votes. The

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Speaker 2: problem is there's tremendous ideological difference between the two of them. Marxism, socialism, communism.

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Speaker 2: All we fail and always lead to terrible repression and oppression,

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Speaker 2: whereas capitalism and true democracy always lead to prosperity and

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Speaker 2: innovation and a higher quality of life and greater morality

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Speaker 2: and more freedom. The fact that there is a common

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Speaker 2: element of the two of opposing elitism doesn't change the

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Speaker 2: fact that ideologically there's a difference. Secondly, now I hinted

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Speaker 2: at this from the beginning that I was going to

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Speaker 2: explain why all of this is going on. There are

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Speaker 2: a number of conservative voices that are trying to kind

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Speaker 2: of be middlemen and realize who the real opponent is.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm in one of them, Megan Chillies and

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Speaker 2: one of them, Patrick Batt, David was mentioned, quite a

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Speaker 2: few others, just a lot of them. Ruben and I

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Speaker 2: would then throw in most of the people that are

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Speaker 2: say on Fox and even on Newsmax and so on.

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Speaker 2: But there are some of these others that have gotten

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Speaker 2: to be huge in the podcast world that are now

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Speaker 2: looking for areas to attack one another. I am convinced

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Speaker 2: I have this figured out. Before podcasting started, there was

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Speaker 2: one giant voice in the conservative movement, and that was Rush.

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Speaker 2: Rush was bigger than everybody, in part because prior to podcasts,

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Speaker 2: there was really some of the talk shows on cable

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Speaker 2: and conservative radio. There was nothing else. And even in

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Speaker 2: Megan's Kelly Fest, the thing that she had there was

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Speaker 2: a lengthy video about Rush and how almost everyone in

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Speaker 2: the conservative movement can praise their growth to at some

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Speaker 2: point or another, having been influenced by Rush. So Rush

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Speaker 2: was the undenied, most influential and powerful conservative voice of

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Speaker 2: someone not in the government, in other words, an outsider commenting.

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Speaker 2: But now in the podcastville, who's the biggest star? Wide open?

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Speaker 2: Is it it? I think that there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: rivalry here. Charlie Kirk was clearly ascending, and I think

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Speaker 2: that a couple of people who fell out of the

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Speaker 2: orbit of Charlie Kirk resented that was Candace. One of them.

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Speaker 2: Candace came up in the Daily Caller Empire, which Shapiro

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Speaker 2: was connected to. They had a falling out. There are

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Speaker 2: all of these people where I just think that there's this,

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Speaker 2: even if it's not conscious, this desire to separate from

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Speaker 2: one another instance to who's the big dog? And right

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Speaker 2: the right wing blog a sphere, podcast, sphere, whatever you

554
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Speaker 2: want to call it, and it's leading to these attacks

555
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Speaker 2: in which the larger purpose of the things that you

556
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Speaker 2: believe in become I think secondary now every one of

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Speaker 2: these issues that's back and forth. I think that in

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Speaker 2: some cases Shapiro is way too critical of everyone who

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Speaker 2: doesn't share his view on Israel, and I think Shapiro

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Speaker 2: is too quick to criticize other Conservatives. I also think

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Speaker 2: the Tucker's doing a lot of things that are fringe.

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Speaker 2: I think Candice is doing a fair number of things

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Speaker 2: that are fringe. But I think on the overall, both

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Speaker 2: of them are extremely important and extremely talented. Just as

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Speaker 2: with regard to me, I don't think it's anybody listening

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Speaker 2: to my podcast. He doesn't disagree with me on a

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Speaker 2: handful of things. It's the larger thing to understand, especially

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Speaker 2: after what we've been through for the last not four

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Speaker 2: but eight nine years, where the entire government was used

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Speaker 2: to bring down Trump spying Conservatives smash us down, and

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Speaker 2: they can't stand the fact that Trump won and got

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Speaker 2: it back. They want to once and for all take

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Speaker 2: this away and stomp us out for wrever and turn

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Speaker 2: us into a Marxist nation too. In the realm of this,

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Speaker 2: have our most important figures fighting over what should be

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Speaker 2: fourth or fifth or sixth tier issues. The whole issue

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Speaker 2: of Israel, I think is resolving itself. I think Trump

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Speaker 2: is bringing peace to the Middle East. I think that

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Speaker 2: Israel is going to be defanged now that Hamas is defanged.

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Speaker 2: I think that Trump allowing Israel to take out the

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Speaker 2: Iran nukes has eliminated their ran problem for a while.

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Speaker 2: And Trump's not going to try to cut deals in

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Speaker 2: which every one of these nations gets along with us

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Speaker 2: and therefore with one another, to end up just eviscerating

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Speaker 2: and attacking and tearing everybody's eyeballs out over this is

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Speaker 2: certainly not a productive thing to do. But I understand,

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Speaker 2: as I say, why it's going on. There's just an

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Speaker 2: I know what it is. You know, there were a year,

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Speaker 2: for example, before Charlie Sykes wandered completely into Looneyville. I

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Speaker 2: mean before that, back when Charlie was a mainstream conservative

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Speaker 2: just as I was. We have both had huge shows

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Speaker 2: here right Well, it's a rivalry. He worked for a

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Speaker 2: different company. I don't. Ever, when I was at WISN

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Speaker 2: and I'm still affiliated with iHeart obviously, and I knew

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Speaker 2: my show from the WIS and stews, I never had

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Speaker 2: a rival where Jay or Dan or anybody, because we

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00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 2: worked for the same company. We're all on the same thing.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people listen to Jabel, then they're around

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Speaker 2: to listen to my show Vice Versa, and said Charlie

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Speaker 2: was onto the station. So from time to time we

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Speaker 2: would disagree, and I would say things that I disagree with,

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Speaker 2: But I don't think I never despised him, wanted to

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Speaker 2: take him down and destroy his career, because until he

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Speaker 2: went nuts on the whole issue of Trump, it wasn't

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Speaker 2: my position he was wrong or terrible or responsible or

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Speaker 2: any of those things. I still don't even think that.

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Speaker 2: I just think he's lost his marbles. I don't think

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Speaker 2: Charlie sticks a bad guy. I know. I just just

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Speaker 2: say I just think he's lost his marbles. But I'm not.

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Speaker 2: But way before that, I was never in this who's

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Speaker 2: the number one? Who's the top dog? Because I thought

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Speaker 2: it was fairly clear I was the number one, which

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Speaker 2: I was. I think you could talk about that by

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Speaker 2: any number of things, whether I was or I wasn't.

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Speaker 2: But I just think that there's a lot of this,

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Speaker 2: especially given that some of these people are young, and

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00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 2: there's legacy building and all of that stuff. You see

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00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 2: that some of the more peacemaker oriented in this wing,

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00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: like Megan's older than the others of them, and then

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Speaker 2: there's a guy like me, and oh fine, I just,

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Speaker 2: for heaven's sakes, take a look at what's going on

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Speaker 2: right now when understand that none of this is helping

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Speaker 2: anything other than you're letting your own egos and get

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Speaker 2: in Alan. I think it's self destructive for all of them. Right,

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Speaker 2: Paul agrees with me. Well, that's all I need. If

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Speaker 2: I only get you to agree with me, then my

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00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 2: life is made. Paul supports me on this, What were

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Speaker 2: you gonna say? Yes, the Democrats are employed to I mean,

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Speaker 2: everybody seems to be imploding with Then let's move to

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Speaker 2: a couple of other stories here in this segment. Then

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna move on to another big story that I

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Speaker 2: have to date quickly. A number of Democrats joined Republicans

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Speaker 2: overnight to vote to end the filibuster. This does not

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Speaker 2: end the government shutdown the filibuster. You couldn't vote. A

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Speaker 2: filibuster is in the Senate. It requires sixty votes to

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Speaker 2: end debate. They voted to end debate, so now they

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00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 2: still have to pass the bills, and they're sending a

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00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 2: bill back to the House. This could still fall apart,

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00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: but I don't think that it will. But we'll take

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00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 2: several days now to pass the legislation. But the prolonging

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Speaker 2: of the debate, that part ended when a number of

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00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 2: Democrats just either gave up or said screw it. We're

643
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 2: not accomplishing anything here. Trump is not going to cave

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Speaker 2: in on all of these demands that we are going

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Speaker 2: to have. We're going to pass a funding billt and

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Speaker 2: for doing this the Democrat. Yet there's just the eight

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Speaker 2: Democrat I think it was eight, whatever the number was,

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Speaker 2: the voter joined with the Republicans to end the debate.

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Speaker 2: They're just being attacked by the left with the level

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Speaker 2: of rage and hatred that's off the charts. The most

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Speaker 2: interesting one to me is that durban was one of

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Speaker 2: them that voted to do it. I as you know,

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Speaker 2: I know Dick Durbin. We sat next to each other

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Speaker 2: at ET. How many times have I putted that out, Paul?

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Speaker 2: You're going to finally, you finally are going to remember

656
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Speaker 2: that now, aren't you. I mentioned it constantly. You always

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Speaker 2: forget it, but I mentioned it constantly. I know why

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Speaker 2: Dick Derbin voted to do it. You know why Dick

659
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Speaker 2: Derban voted to do it. He's not running for reelection.

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Speaker 2: I think that they are all bulls like him that

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Speaker 2: are sick at what's happened to the Democratic Party, but

662
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Speaker 2: that he, in order for survival, let it go along

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Speaker 2: with all of it. And now he's finally breaking ranks

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Speaker 2: here figuring, well, I'm not my career is over. Dick

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Speaker 2: is about one hundred and ninety two years old. I

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Speaker 2: got no future readyway, et cetera. Anyway, the level of

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Speaker 2: hatred and animosity directed at them is stunning. And here's

668
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Speaker 2: the thing about this. At some point it had to end.

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Speaker 2: We can't have the government not funded forever, which is

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Speaker 2: why it was so stupid for the Democrats to start

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Speaker 2: this whole thing in the first place. Secondly, Trump, if

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Speaker 2: the Democrats regained control of one or both houses of Congress,

673
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Speaker 2: he's gonna have to cut deals with them all the time.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't have to do what now. He's not going

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Speaker 2: to cave into them now and give away the farm

676
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Speaker 2: just because they won't end the debate. Another quick story,

677
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Speaker 2: just another example of people who have killed themselves by

678
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Speaker 2: their Trump derangement syndrome. This one's quite interesting. The BBC.

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Speaker 2: You know what the BBC is, don't you? That is correct,

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Speaker 2: the British Broadcasting Corporation. That is telling Before the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four election, in other words, about a month before

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Speaker 2: Trump ran against Kamala, the BBC did a report on

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Speaker 2: what it was that Trump actually said on January sixth

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Speaker 2: of twenty one. You know, the Democrats tried to take

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Speaker 2: down Trump and twenty four through this supposed anarchy that

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Speaker 2: he was bringing in January sixth, which of course I

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Speaker 2: contend is a load of crap. Trump contends a load

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Speaker 2: of crap. So the BBC now understand the BBC's audience

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Speaker 2: is not mean. Not many Americans follow the Some do,

690
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Speaker 2: but it's not like they swing the American election. It's

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Speaker 2: primarily for a British and international audience. The BBC edited

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Speaker 2: Trump's comments on January sixth to make it They took

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Speaker 2: out sentences to make it appeer in which as though

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Speaker 2: he was urging people to store in the Capitol, when

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Speaker 2: in fact, of course he said don't do anything violent.

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Speaker 2: They edited out to make it look like Trump's The

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Speaker 2: top two executives of the BBC were forced to resign

698
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Speaker 2: for the British government. The BBC is part of the government.

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Speaker 2: Resign over the weekend. The top two people in the

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Speaker 2: BBC lost their jobs because an investigation was conducted and

701
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Speaker 2: it was determined that they deliberately did this editing. So

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Speaker 2: they ruined their careers over and a something in which

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Speaker 2: they don't They weren't going to change any American minds anyway.

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Speaker 2: It was the BBC. How much do you have to

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Speaker 2: hate Trump to destroy your own career, destroy all these

706
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Speaker 2: ethics for something that, even if it had worked, would

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Speaker 2: not have done any good. Because it's the BBC. It's

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Speaker 2: time to take a break on the markpelling podcast. This

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Speaker 2: is the Mark Belling Podcast. We're going to get into

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Speaker 2: in a moment here another big story that requires kind

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Speaker 2: of a deep dive in the fashion that we did

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Speaker 2: in segment number one. But before I do that, you know,

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Speaker 2: I get these things all the time for people, you're

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Speaker 2: the greatest podcast, you're the greatest talk show host, You've

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Speaker 2: changed my life, etc. They come in quite a bit,

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Speaker 2: and I understand why it is, particularly here in Milwaukee.

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Speaker 2: When I started out, there was not any conservative voice anywhere,

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Speaker 2: and my audience became very, very large, and it had

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Speaker 2: a large impact on a lot of people. I've shared

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Speaker 2: adults who said that, you know, I was once a

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Speaker 2: liberal change, et cetera. This is an interesting one, and

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Speaker 2: I'm bringing it up because in a way it relates

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Speaker 2: a bit at least to the story that we're going

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Speaker 2: to get into. I'm going to not include anyone's name here. Mark.

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Speaker 2: This thank you is perhaps a long time coming. During

726
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: my children's young years, we listened to all the various

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Speaker 2: programs on WIS and eleven thirty regularly, especially when driving.

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Speaker 2: My youngest, a bit of a rascal, latched onto your influence,

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Speaker 2: along with positive influence from his grandfather, my father. When

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Speaker 2: we moved him from one grade school to eighth grade

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Speaker 2: into another due to dysfunction in the junior high, my

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Speaker 2: father was often the one to drive him and have

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Speaker 2: some solid life value chats with him. In addition to this,

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Speaker 2: later in high school, I discovered this young kid falling

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Speaker 2: asleep with earbuds in, and when glancing at his phone,

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Speaker 2: I had to chuckle that he was listening to your

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Speaker 2: podcast for hours into the night, not even sure I

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Speaker 2: knew you had podcasts at the time. In other words,

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Speaker 2: she's referring to we took our old radio show and

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Speaker 2: turned it into a podcast. It wasn't really a podcast,

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Speaker 2: which just a way of listening to the radio show

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Speaker 2: without having to listen live between three and six. And

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Speaker 2: she's pointing out that this young man in high school

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Speaker 2: was listening to my old radio shows via podcast in

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Speaker 2: the middle of the night, and that's why he was

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Speaker 2: getting so tired. Continuing, although yes, we were a united

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Speaker 2: conservative family having active conversations with our three children, I

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Speaker 2: am thrilled that all three are still conservative to this day.

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Speaker 2: All I know in the mid to upper twenties and

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Speaker 2: early thirties, my daughter went to a conservative Christian liberal

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Speaker 2: arts college, my middle son went to a tech school,

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Speaker 2: and the youngest son went to a liberal state school.

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Speaker 2: And I believe because of your additional influence in his

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Speaker 2: developmental period, he actively sought out the Young Republicans group

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Speaker 2: at his university and stayed connected. Just thought you would

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Speaker 2: enjoy knowing. I believe your additional impact on particularly my

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Speaker 2: younger kid, who could have been painted by the university,

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Speaker 2: is on solid ground. Other conservative friends whose children went

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Speaker 2: to universities have not been so fortunate. Then mentions a

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Speaker 2: couple of things about what they're doing with their careers

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Speaker 2: and signs it. Now, let's dive into a story here.

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Speaker 2: This story. I should mention that the Thursday podcast last

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Speaker 2: week we recorded on Wednesday. I had to I don't

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Speaker 2: had is a strong word. I had a strong need,

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Speaker 2: not quite close they had. I had to go to

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Speaker 2: Florida for a few days and I got back. The

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Speaker 2: whole plain thing required numerous audibles, but we did the podcast.

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Speaker 2: So I was gone for three or four days, and

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Speaker 2: several stories broke during the period that I was gone,

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Speaker 2: and one of them that's become a huge thanks to YouTube,

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Speaker 2: A huge story nationally is this story of the substitute

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Speaker 2: teacher at an elementary school in Muskigo who showed up

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Speaker 2: to school unbelievably drunk. I'm guessing most of you know

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Speaker 2: about the I was not here, Paul. Were you aware

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Speaker 2: the story before I gave you all this material? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so I know that some of you, especially nationally, may

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Speaker 2: not be fully aware of it. So I'll give you

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Speaker 2: the quick background of this and then dive into the story.

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Speaker 2: The story, as reported is that a substitute teacher showed

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Speaker 2: up at an elementary school in Muskego, and the staff

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Speaker 2: could tell that he was intoxicated, so they called the police.

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Speaker 2: Upon investigation, initially claimed that he was driven to the school,

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Speaker 2: but upon investigation they drunk tested him and so on,

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Speaker 2: and it turned out that his BAC blood alcohol content

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Speaker 2: was zero point three six. For those of you who

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Speaker 2: don't know anyone drinking of those numbers, that's unbelievably high.

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Speaker 2: I know the general rule that he you know, the

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Speaker 2: bigger you are, the more it affects the numbers. Like

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Speaker 2: a frail, thin young woman is going to have a

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Speaker 2: greater impact than the alcohol than some big, fat guy.

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Speaker 2: The rule is sort of like one drink takes your

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Speaker 2: point oh two to another one point oh four and

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Speaker 2: so on, and you lose point oh two an hour.

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Speaker 2: That can vary widely depending on the strength of the

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Speaker 2: alcohol and your body weight and so on. In addition,

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Speaker 2: there's other things that effect affect your impairment. Are you

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Speaker 2: using with any medications and so on, But that's a

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Speaker 2: general I know that I personally can never get to

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Speaker 2: a point three six. I would not I'd get sick,

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Speaker 2: fall asleep, pass out long before that. Thankfully, point three six.

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Speaker 2: It's that's four and a half times the legal limit

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Speaker 2: for driving and he shows up to teach school. It

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Speaker 2: was his fourth offense. Ow I now everybody's reacting to

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Speaker 2: the first part of the story, but my analysis here

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Speaker 2: has to do with a different component. But to give

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Speaker 2: you a feel for the level of intoxication of the guy.

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Speaker 2: And his name is Christopher rees Rias. He's had various addresses.

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Speaker 2: He's moved around it. As I've checked his court file,

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Speaker 2: he's had different addresses, not surprising for guys going through

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Speaker 2: a lot of trouble. He's got an address in Jefferson

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Speaker 2: County right now. He was assigned as a sub at Muskigo.

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Speaker 2: The police body cam has been picked up by one

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Speaker 2: of the sites that's on YouTube that does crime reporting

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Speaker 2: and police videos and so on. Some of these sites

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Speaker 2: are huge. This one's Law and Order Network. The number

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Speaker 2: of hits it's had on YouTube is in the hundreds

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Speaker 2: and hundreds of thousands. I don't even know what it

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Speaker 2: is right now. The last I checked, it was over

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Speaker 2: four hundred thousand. And they did the bodycam of the

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Speaker 2: whole thing, and it's like fifty five minutes long. I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you, Paul, remind me at the end of the

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Speaker 2: segment to tell people how they can find it. We're

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Speaker 2: going to play a portion of this toward the end

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Speaker 2: now as the setup to this. Initially, the police recalled

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Speaker 2: to the school by the staff, good for them, and

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Speaker 2: they were questioning him, and you see the body cam

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Speaker 2: of the whole thing, and his initial story was is

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Speaker 2: that he was dropped off of the school, and he

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Speaker 2: goes on and on and on about the wars that

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Speaker 2: he has in his life, and he's being extremely open

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Speaker 2: about everything, and he's slurring a speech like a nut.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you could just see how intoxicated he was,

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Speaker 2: and he's going through all of these things, etc. It

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Speaker 2: was not until later on in the explanation that they

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Speaker 2: realized that his story about being dropped off was not true,

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Speaker 2: meaning now they have an investigation for drunk driving, because

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Speaker 2: if he was driving it in this condition, say just

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Speaker 2: showing up drunk, he's not in and of itself a crime,

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Speaker 2: even though you shouldn't be drunk on a teacher, but

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Speaker 2: if he was driving at this it was a new thing.

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Speaker 2: So for this reason they now are taking him to

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Speaker 2: do a blood draw. The law in the state of

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Speaker 2: Wisconsin is is that you can refuse to blow into

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Speaker 2: the breathalyzer. However, you can get a quote order on

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Speaker 2: him to do a blood draw. Also, you can voluntarily

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Speaker 2: do the breathalyzer. He did eventually do the breathalyzer, and

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Speaker 2: that's where it came back at the zero point threety six.

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Speaker 2: And you're going to pick this up. Now. He's back

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Speaker 2: at the facility with the police officer and they're explaining

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Speaker 2: they're going to the rigamar role of reading that if

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Speaker 2: you refuse to take the breath test, et cetera. And

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Speaker 2: it's going to be hard to pick up on what

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Speaker 2: he's saying, but you can just see that the guy

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Speaker 2: is in total dysfunction from his dependence on alcohol, in

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Speaker 2: which he's focused mostly on why, you know, what do

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Speaker 2: you have to mean to be so? Well? Listen to

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Speaker 2: just this brief portrait of it, which gives you a

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Speaker 2: sense of how bad off he was.

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Speaker 1: Yes or no?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Why?

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Speaker 3: Why why are we yes or no?

862
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 2: Why are we becoming so mean?

863
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to be mean, man, I'm trying to

864
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 3: speak this posss I would get you from pointing to

865
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 3: point me as quickly as possible.

866
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 2: I'm just so all I knew was so distressing and

867
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 2: yelled at me, well, because I was.

868
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:05,720
Speaker 3: He wanted you to pay attention to what I was saying.

869
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 2: I'm not if you're giving me the fourth one, I

870
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 2: already have heard the third, four second, first one.

871
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 3: Will you submit to an evidence try chemical test of

872
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 3: your blood?

873
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 2: However, I'm not paying for it. I'm not paying for it.

874
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 2: Do I have to pay for it? Sixteen didn't burn

875
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 2: not off pus? Okay, I mean now he's worried about

876
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 2: do we have to pay for the test? I just

877
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 2: so A number of things have come out. What I

878
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 2: clearly we see what the problem for this he's thirty

879
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 2: years old. What the problem for this guy is. He's

880
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 2: got a serious problem. To me, the more important dysfunction.

881
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 2: It's not his dysfunction, but the dysfunction of how someone

882
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 2: in this situation in life, with all of these drunk

883
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 2: drivings and so on, is a driving and b being

884
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 2: hired as a sub in school. So let's move into

885
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 2: the story. First of all, he's at Muskego. I admit

886
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,280
Speaker 2: I didn't know this. I did not know that school

887
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 2: districts didn't hire their subs. Did you know that? I

888
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 2: didn't know it? Moskeigo says, we don't hire our subs.

889
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,919
Speaker 2: We use Kelly Services. Kelly Services has a division called

890
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 2: Kelly Education that places substitute teachers in school districts. And

891
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 2: Musketigo is angry with Kelly Services, the big temp agency,

892
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 2: for not having flagged this teacher who had two earlier

893
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 2: drunk drivings this year alone, and Kelly the company was

894
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 2: contacted and they had a PR person who said, gobbling book,

895
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 2: you know, our highest commitment is a safety and call

896
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 2: of education, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, But no

897
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 2: explanation as to how they didn't. They don't do the

898
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 2: most basic thing. In Wisconsin, all arrests and almost all

899
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 2: arrests and almost all court cases are Online's the easiest

900
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 2: thing in the world to check. How they never check

901
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,479
Speaker 2: this guy and what kind of monitoring are they doing

902
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 2: of the people that they're placing a substitutes. So the

903
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 2: first breakdown is these schools, apparently with all the money

904
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 2: that we're spending on education, they don't have somebody on

905
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 2: the staff that's in charge of hiring a substitute that

906
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 2: they've got to outsource that they outsourced this to a

907
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 2: company that's apparently doing a terrible job or actually no

908
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 2: job of screening candidates whatsoever. So that's of this person

909
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 2: who has this record. It never should have been a

910
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 2: sub given the fact that their life was going off

911
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,720
Speaker 2: the rails in the first place, got in there. I wonder,

912
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,720
Speaker 2: I have my doubts. I wonder will Muskigo dump Kelly

913
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 2: Services given the fact that they sent a guy who

914
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,240
Speaker 2: was having extreme problems all year prior to this incident

915
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 2: to come and teach into the school. Secondly, what I'm

916
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 2: going to do here is walk through the year twenty

917
00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:01,919
Speaker 2: twenty five in this guy's legal life. Prior to twenty five,

918
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 2: he already had one OWI conviction. I don't know when

919
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 2: it was. I didn't find it online, but the first

920
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 2: one I found was he was charged second offense. Often

921
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 2: that's because the first defense was out of state, or

922
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 2: it might have been municipal, meaning it didn't make a

923
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 2: court filing. But I don't know when it was, but

924
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 2: he had one prior to this year. Fast forward now

925
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:27,240
Speaker 2: to February of this year. He was arrested and charged

926
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 2: in Kenosha County with a multiple of offenses, including refusing

927
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 2: to take the breath test, not having insurance, improper lane etc.

928
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 2: And then ultimately with OWI second offense. Now again follow

929
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 2: my dates on this February so he was charged with

930
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 2: numerous traffic offenses plus drunk driving second offense. In February,

931
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 2: the court Commissioner, William Michael released him on a signature bond.

932
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 2: Signature bond means you don't have to put up any cash.

933
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 2: You see your name. The lawyer who represented him in

934
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 2: this Kenosha County case in February was rather interesting to me,

935
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:19,240
Speaker 2: Mark Powers. Mark Powers is a local criminal defense attorney

936
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 2: who also serves as a municipal judge in several communities

937
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,439
Speaker 2: in Waukeshaw County. I reported a couple of years ago

938
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 2: on Mark Powers. Mark Powers himself got a drunk driving

939
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 2: and according to he was arrested by a d n

940
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,760
Speaker 2: R warden. They have arrest Powers. A d NR warden

941
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 2: pulled him over for drunk driving and according to the

942
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 2: police report, he dropped the name of Waukeshaw County District

943
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 2: Attorney Sue Opper City. He was just with her grousing

944
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 2: complained to the warden et cetera. Initially, despite the fact

945
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 2: that his own lawyer claimed he was going to take

946
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 2: accountability for this initially pleaded not guilty. He eventually did

947
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,439
Speaker 2: plead guilty. He remains a municipal judge in a number

948
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 2: of Waukashaw County communities. In the meantime, he does drunk

949
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 2: driving defense work. Why do I bring this up because

950
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 2: this case from Kenosha in February. You know, second offense

951
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 2: drunk drive. A lot of drunk driving cases, they're very

952
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 2: hard to win if you're the defense attorney. They're resolved

953
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,280
Speaker 2: rather quickly. The key here is this one's still open.

954
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 2: He's still free on the signature bond. Now follow my

955
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 2: dates here. When did I say this was February. I'm

956
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 2: asking these questions because I know the absent minded, like

957
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 2: say you have forgotten this? Dates are critical. The second

958
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 2: offense Kenosha County, February is still open and unresolved. Fast

959
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:48,760
Speaker 2: forward to July. He cited for speeding on the freeway,

960
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,280
Speaker 2: not the most important charge, but I mentioned that it happened.

961
00:55:56,120 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 2: Then fast forward again October twenty first Milwaukee County. This

962
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 2: happened in the city of cuta Haey. He's arrested for

963
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 2: OWI drunk driving and cuta Hey. This is now third

964
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 2: offense and second of the year. The date now is

965
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 2: October twenty first, follow my dates please. He appears in

966
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 2: Milwaukee County Circuit Court in front of a court commissioner,

967
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 2: Barry Phillips. He sets cash bond at fifteen hundred dollars.

968
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 2: One of the things that they do when they set

969
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 2: bond for someone is they use the term as conditions

970
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 2: of bond. Can't do this, can't do that, can't do

971
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 2: the other thing. So Barry Philip put fifteen hundred dollars

972
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 2: for him to spring himself on.

973
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 3: Now.

974
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 2: Third defense, drunk driving. And one of the conditions is

975
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 2: it's in all of these for drunk driving absolute sobriety.

976
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 2: And then other things though use controlled sounds and blah

977
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 2: blah blah and all of this other stuff. Don't drive

978
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 2: all these things absolute sobriety. Now, when did I say this?

979
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 2: Was like a pain in the aspect demanding these dates.

980
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 2: But you have to follow this. October twenty first, You

981
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 2: did not remember that, did you? Before you said it?

982
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 2: I now I just said it to you. October twenty first,

983
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 2: So again, February twelfth was the first. Now October then

984
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 2: the speeding in the summer. Now third offense. October twenty first,

985
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 2: released from jail fifteen hundred dollars condition absolute sobriety. The

986
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 2: incident in Muskego was October thirtieth, nine days later. Remember,

987
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 2: he not only got third offense on the twenty first,

988
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 2: a condition to the bail that got him sprung was

989
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 2: absolute sobriety. He not only doesn't maintain absolute sobriety, he

990
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 2: gets about a drunk as a human being can get

991
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 2: point thirty six and drives to teach at a school

992
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 2: in Muskego, by the way in the video that they

993
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 2: picked up on, and that's how they realized that he

994
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,919
Speaker 2: didn't get dropped off. They looked at the surveillance video

995
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,439
Speaker 2: from the schools. I've seen staggering out of his own

996
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 2: car and stumbling twice. So clearly the fact that he

997
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 2: showed up at a school drawing. None of the kids

998
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 2: were hurt or anything, but think of the people that

999
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 2: could have been injured on the road as somebody this

1000
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 2: blasted out of his mind was driving from. And again

1001
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 2: he has an address a distance from Askeigo where he

1002
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 2: stayed overnight. I don't know when the questioning that he

1003
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 2: was doing, I no, I haven't had anything to drink.

1004
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 2: I only drank last night. Then he said, well, I

1005
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 2: didn't sleep all night. I took a melotone on him.

1006
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 2: You should hear this. It's just on and on the

1007
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 2: guy's just a sad shape. But again, my focus is

1008
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 2: on everything else. So he's now got third offense. On

1009
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 2: October twenty first, fifteen hundred dollars cash bond absolute sobriety

1010
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 2: nine days later, blasted out of his mind, arrested again,

1011
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 2: now charged with fourth offense. Fourth offense, fourth offense. Muskeigo

1012
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 2: is in Wakashaw County. I mean, on it. Sometimes I

1013
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 2: think they'd some of these things just to drive me crazy.

1014
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 2: There's several core commissioners in Wakashaw County who do you

1015
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 2: think he lands in front of? Would you believe Paul

1016
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 2: that he lands in front of David Herring? I mean,

1017
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 2: I have spent more what would you call it in

1018
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 2: podcast world bites, but plus his time. I want to

1019
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 2: come up with the technology talking about David Herring and

1020
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 2: the low bail that he sets. Now this is fourth offense.

1021
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 2: Remember now, what did I say about the case from

1022
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 2: Kenosian February unresolved? Obviously the third offense of Milwaukee County

1023
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 2: October twenty first, unresolved. He's free on bail on both

1024
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 2: of those earlier. As I've explained, in any number of

1025
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 2: cases with regard to criminal behavior on anything, drug driving,

1026
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 2: you know, assault and battery, no matter what the thing is,

1027
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 2: the most dangerous time is when the person is going

1028
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,919
Speaker 2: to go to prison but their cases are still penning

1029
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 2: because they're free on bail. Because they figure, well, I'm

1030
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 2: free on bail. I know I'm going to go to

1031
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 2: jail for this, or I know I'm going to go

1032
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 2: to prison. I'm just gonna keep doing the thing that

1033
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 2: I'm doing. This is the problem with low bail and

1034
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 2: the problem with the slow motion court system. So now

1035
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 2: he goes in front of David Herring, the court commissioner.

1036
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 2: He sets cash bail at ten thousand dollars, which the

1037
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 2: guy has posted. He's out right now. This is a

1038
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 2: time bomb. Remember all those earlier bail conditions. One of

1039
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 2: the charges he has right now in Waukeshak County is

1040
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 2: bail jumping. He's charged with bail jumping for jumping bail

1041
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 2: on the third offense of Milwaukee County. But rather than

1042
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 2: revoking the bail for jumping, the bail they just charge

1043
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 2: him with it and set another bail. I don't know

1044
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 2: if somebody posted it for him or he posted it,

1045
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 2: but he is out. Who's the villain here, clearly the

1046
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 2: guy who's he's got a problem as a villain. What's

1047
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 2: the excuse of Kelly Services. What's the excuse of the

1048
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 2: commissioner in Kenosha County? What's the excuse of his no

1049
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 2: account lawyer powers for rather than trying to get this

1050
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 2: guy that helped that he deserves doing everything he can

1051
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 2: to drag out his cases. What's the excuse for David

1052
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 2: Herring and Waukeshaw County for not setting a proper bail.

1053
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 2: This guy needs to be locked up to stop himself

1054
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 2: from drinking. Not to mention that if ever there was

1055
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 2: somebody who was advertising I am a dangerous threat. Fourth

1056
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 2: offense usually means prison, at the very least long jail.

1057
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 2: So he's staring at this hard to drink when you're

1058
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 2: in those places. He's given the fact that he's in

1059
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 2: this situation where you see show it up. He's a terrible,

1060
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 2: terrible risk to reoffend at a terrible level. By the way,

1061
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 2: in the lengthy video that's out there, you see him

1062
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 2: on the phone. It appeared to be his mother, and

1063
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 2: you can hear his mother on the phone through the end.

1064
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 2: She's telling you're going to lose your teaching lesson. She's

1065
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 2: bawling him, O, I can't believe you went to school

1066
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 2: drunk and all of this stuff. I can sense her exasperation.

1067
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 2: And that's why it related to my sharing the email

1068
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 2: from the mother of the kid who turned out to

1069
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 2: be all right and everything. Here's a case of a

1070
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 2: mother's trying to get him. And you know, the guy's

1071
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 2: drunk cases, he's screwed up, he's got a problem out there.

1072
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Speaker 2: What's I'm saying? All of this is the case, and

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01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 2: you and I probably know that. And this stuff with

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01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 2: regard to Harring and Waukeshaw County keeps going on and

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01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 2: nobody does a damn thing about it, and it doesn't

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01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 2: seem to matter how much time I spend. They should

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01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 2: have set bail at this guy at one hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars. We have passed the Constitutional Amendment in

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Speaker 2: the state of Wisconsin to allow protection of the public

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01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 2: to be a factor in the consideration of bail. And

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01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 2: when this guy's got all these other drunk driving cases

1082
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 2: that are sitting out there out there, and he then

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01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 2: shows up at a school this far over the limit.

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Speaker 2: The need to protect the public is absolutely overwhelming. So

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01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 2: I'm telling you who has the bigger problem, him or

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01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 2: the rest of us for not knowing how to handle

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01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 2: this rheus at least has an excuse he's a drunk.

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01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 2: The sad thing is the people at Kelly, the people

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Speaker 2: at Musquego who hired Kelly, the court commissioner from Kenosha.

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01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 2: I can't really criticize the Milwaukee court commissioner because he

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01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 2: did up the addy on cash, bonded so on, and

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01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 2: set the conditions, and now that the case is in

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01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 2: walk A Shaw, I think Milwaukee needs to try to

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01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 2: forfeit the bail and grab him back in on that

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01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 2: given the fact that Waukershaw set the low veil for

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Speaker 2: the fourth offense. All of this stuff, but there's all

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01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 2: sorts of problems in regard to the handling this from

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01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 2: everybody who's dealt with this guy. The only person who

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01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 2: seems to try to help is the mother who's on

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01:03:50,800 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 2: the phone with him, but which, oh thank you, Paul,

1101
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 2: don't do it until end them with the podcast and

1102
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 2: it's almost over. I do have linked up on my

1103
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 2: ax formerly known as Twitter. Mark Bellings Show is my handle.

1104
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 2: The video is linked up on a post that I

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01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 2: put there if you want to see the whole thing.

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01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 2: And I think that these videos, all these police videos

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01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 2: and so on, when people they hear about police instances,

1108
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 2: when you actually see the arrest and how suspects and

1109
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 2: criminals are acting and so on, it's quite eye opening.

1110
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 2: And these videos get lots and lots of views. And

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01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 2: it's not a matter of picking on this person, but

1112
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 2: realizing when you see how intoxicated he is, what a

1113
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 2: danger he actually is when he's out there and I'm

1114
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 2: not standing at posts for holyffections. The who drug proving

1115
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 2: is the most evil thing in the world. When you're

1116
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 2: doing it this many times, make make not learning a

1117
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 2: lesson and then accelerating and getting this far over the limit,

1118
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 2: and it's just that you're advertising. Somebody locked me up

1119
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 2: and somebody protect the pump, and we sit around and

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01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 2: do nothing, sit around and do nothing. Scratch your butt

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01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 2: and do nothing. By the way, not one of these

1122
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 2: people can use the government shutdown as an excuse for

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01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 2: not doing the job, because none of this had anything

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01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 2: to do with the federal government. It's basically just the

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01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 2: whole thing is. That's my point of this, Paul. There

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01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 2: is almost no reason to think unless somebody in his

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01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 2: family has locked him up and put him into when

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01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:26,080
Speaker 2: you sign somebody away against their will, very hard to,

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01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 2: by the way, do that. Yeah, it's very hard to.

1130
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 2: It's not incarceory institutionalize a person against their will. Late,

1131
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 2: there's every reason to think, given the issues that he's having,

1132
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 2: he's going to do it again. How do you think

1133
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 2: this is going to add? He could have killed three

1134
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 2: point three to six drive into a skigo. I have

1135
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 2: to comment on this all right. I was in Florida

1136
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 2: the end. I came back late Saturday night. I booked.

1137
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 2: I knew that there was a good chance that my

1138
01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 2: flights were going to be canceled. I found a late

1139
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 2: flight light out of I normally plaut A fort Laudernale.

1140
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 2: Found a late night flight out of Chicago on Saturday night.

1141
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 2: It was a NonStop, but I felt that was the

1142
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 2: least likely to get canceled because it's only one flight,

1143
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 2: not the two end. It was a puddle jumper and

1144
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 2: buddle jumper that runs NonStop from Miami to Milwaukee, and

1145
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 2: it only runs like a couple of days a week.

1146
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 2: It's just I got on it and it was delayed,

1147
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 2: but I got in and it was a good thing

1148
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 2: because one of the flights that I booked for Sunday

1149
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 2: was delayed for four hours, and the connection was delayed

1150
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 2: for four I don't know who knows where I would

1151
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 2: have been anyway. So I get back and I was operating,

1152
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 2: got no sleep yesterday, and I was barely able to

1153
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 2: watch the football games. And because I got up early,

1154
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 2: you know, Sunday morning, and after getting in, laid and

1155
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 2: I saw the weather advisor come across on my phone,

1156
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 2: winter Weather Advisor for lake effects. Now, so I didn't

1157
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,959
Speaker 2: And I remember last night I went to bed really early,

1158
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 2: like nine thirty. I remember waking up hearing howling from

1159
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 2: the from the winds and so on, but waking up

1160
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 2: for like fifteen seconds and falling back asleep. So then

1161
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 2: I got up this morning. I got up really early,

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01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 2: earlier than I normally do, because I had two of

1163
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 2: these kind of put together all this stuff that I

1164
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 2: sent to Paul, the audio that we're playing, and I

1165
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 2: look out the window at five pint fifteen and there's

1166
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 2: nothing on the ground at all. So much for this,

1167
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:16,520
Speaker 2: And I find out Kenosha got nine inches of snow,

1168
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 2: Northern Illinois got twelve, or Seeing got six and seven.

1169
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 2: Lake effects snow is so weird. So some people would say, well,

1170
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 2: wether forecasters got that over on. Well, the thing of

1171
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 2: it is they're forecasting for a region and some areas

1172
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 2: got wamped with a blizzard and others just a few

1173
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 2: miles away, and I live near on the lake got

1174
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 2: absolutely nothing, and it was just the focal of the

1175
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 2: lake effect. And lake effects snow will occur when you

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01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 2: have wind blowing off the warmer water of the lake

1177
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 2: hitting colder air on the land. And that's what we have.

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01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 2: The lake is still somewhat warm and the airs got

1179
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 2: really really cold, and it blows that warmer air into

1180
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 2: the cold that it creates its own separate weather system.

1181
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 2: It's not a system coming in with storms all through

1182
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:58,919
Speaker 2: the thing. It creates it right over the lake. It's

1183
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 2: usually on the air is down wind, like you know Michigan,

1184
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 2: the downside of Lake Superior, Buffalo and Cleveland and those places,

1185
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 2: but occasionally get in Milwaukee, but it's a eastily when

1186
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 2: not the lake and the way that the I guess

1187
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 2: the thing was spinning around. It was kind of just

1188
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 2: south of Milwaukee County, but Kenosha, Waukegan and so on

1189
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:21,879
Speaker 2: womped like absolutely. I put before I left to Florida

1190
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:23,679
Speaker 2: on Wednesday. I went in on Tuesday at the snow

1191
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 2: tires put on my car and they kind of looked, well,

1192
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 2: this is kind of early to do that. Then I

1193
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 2: saw this saying I'm gonna have the last laugh. And

1194
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 2: in fact, when I was coming in Saturday night, it

1195
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 2: was snowing in Milwaukee Saturday night and the roads were

1196
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 2: glazed over ice to use. I was even And Paul

1197
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 2: and I are both advocates of snow tires. I mean,

1198
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 2: they're very expensive. They're very very expensive, and I understand that,

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01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 2: but I just think it's the safest thing a person

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01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 2: could do when winter driving. And you just it's like

1201
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 2: when you have shoes that have good traction on it

1202
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 2: on the ice, as opposed to say a dress shoe.

1203
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:00,760
Speaker 2: It's the same kind of difference. You can feel it

1204
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 2: with your hands on the wheel. And Paul and I

1205
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 2: both I've been stressing Paul, you didn't believe it until

1206
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:06,719
Speaker 2: you until you did, and so on. Finally, now, Yoda,

1207
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:08,640
Speaker 2: you have enough money that you can justify doing it.

1208
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,560
Speaker 2: But I mean it's serious. I'm not exaggerating when I

1209
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 2: say this, what's your life worth? I have total confidence

1210
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 2: in any weather. I have an all wheel drive car,

1211
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,759
Speaker 2: you know, the snow tires on it and et cetera.

1212
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 2: And finally this I was mentioning the problems with regard

1213
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 2: to a lot of the flights being canceled with the

1214
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 2: air traffic controllers and so on. See Trump is so brilliant,

1215
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 2: you know. And the government shutdowns not over. The filibus

1216
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 2: is over. It's going to take a few days. And

1217
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 2: there's lots of cancelations all over the place because some

1218
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 2: of the air traffic controllers are not coming in. They're

1219
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 2: all going to be paid. They have, however, a life

1220
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:49,640
Speaker 2: and death job. Trump proposed, and he's so right about this.

1221
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 2: He said he wants to give a ten thousand dollars

1222
01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:54,640
Speaker 2: bonus to every air traffic controller who made all of

1223
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 2: their shifts during the shutdown and dock the ones who

1224
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 2: called head sick. I agree with that. This is not

1225
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 2: a case of an employer going under, where you they

1226
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 2: missed the payroll for three or four weeks, and you

1227
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 2: wonder why somebody will keep coming in. Everybody knows the

1228
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,719
Speaker 2: government's gonna make they make good on this. These jobs

1229
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 2: are life and death type jobs. These aren't people that

1230
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 2: are in parts of the government that are pushing paper around,

1231
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 2: so forth and so on. I think that there's an

1232
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 2: expectation to go ahead and do this. And here's the thing.

1233
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 2: The overwhelming majority of them have showed up. I believe

1234
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 2: only forty airports were affected. They were all the big ones,

1235
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 2: but about twelve percent of the flights were canceled yesterday

1236
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,719
Speaker 2: at those busy airports. Of those forty, and it's gonna

1237
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 2: be hired. Well, that means the overwhelming majority are still going.

1238
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 2: And I believe I couldn't tell, but it looked to

1239
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 2: me like when I was leaving Miami Saturday night, they

1240
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 2: had everybody on one runway because we're like zillion for takeoff,

1241
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 2: and that was probably just the limited the number of

1242
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 2: air traffic controllers got a great shot out of the

1243
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 2: people are so stupid when they take photos out of

1244
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 2: the windows of an airplane. I got it, just a

1245
01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 2: great it's a little puddle jumper that are not stop

1246
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 2: was I had great shot at the Miami Skyline taking off,

1247
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 2: and after I did that, there was no Wi Fi

1248
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 2: on the plane, so I couldn't fall oh quickly well,

1249
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 2: the whole time we were sitting on the tarmac. The

1250
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,719
Speaker 2: good thing about it was I was able to watch

1251
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 2: the end of the Badger game on my phone that

1252
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 2: this little thing in Wisconsin upset Washington end it was,

1253
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 2: and it was up shortly after Wisconsin won the game

1254
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 2: that we took off in. I didn't I never found

1255
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 2: I can't sleep on plays. I never fell asleep, but

1256
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 2: I was sort of zoned out. I did find. The

1257
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 2: only WiFi that was working is the in flight that

1258
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 2: the airplane runs where they have their own videos pre

1259
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 2: loaded in. There found a great Sopranos documentary that I want.

1260
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 2: I know, I've seen everything related to the Sopranos that exist.

1261
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 2: I was not aware of this. It was done by

1262
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 2: HBO and it was released I think just a couple

1263
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 2: of years ago. It's two parts. I want. The first

1264
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 2: part was the only one before the flight landed in

1265
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 2: That's what I remember. Yeah, this this was a really

1266
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 2: I don't even remember what the name of it was,

1267
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 2: but it was in the in flight video. May you

1268
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 2: for American Airlines and you could only watch it on

1269
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 2: the phone. It's just a puddle jumper. There's no screen

1270
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 2: in the plane or anything like that. This is the

1271
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 2: Mark Belling podcast. This is the Mark Belling podcast. I've

1272
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 2: been mentioning this several times. The shoes keep dropping and

1273
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 2: this is a big one betting scandals that are going

1274
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:23,839
Speaker 2: to occur in major American sports now that sports betting

1275
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 2: is proliferated and is legal almost everywhere. I mention and

1276
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 2: I always have to explain because I know probably most

1277
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:32,600
Speaker 2: some of you just know this and many of you

1278
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 2: don't know it at all. There are proposition bets now

1279
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:36,920
Speaker 2: when you go to a casino you can bet on

1280
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 2: just about anything and how many rebounds will a guy

1281
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Speaker 2: get and so on. There's something also called live betting

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01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 2: in the States in which you can bet via app.

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01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 2: That would not be us in Wisconsin, but in many

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01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 2: states you can vet bet. You know, you got your

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01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 2: phone and bet via an app. You can bet in

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01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 2: a baseball game, for example, on the next pitch, not batter,

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01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 2: pitch the close for the Cleveland Guardians, Emmanuel plays the closer.

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01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 2: This is a big time players. I think he was

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01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 2: an All star was on the take, and he cut

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01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 2: deals with gamblers to deliberately throw a ball on certain pitches.

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01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 2: That's real easy to conceal, you know, let's put and

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Speaker 2: it was always the first pitch of the at bats.

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Speaker 2: So that was the tip waff and the federal indictment

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01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 2: of him. He's federally charged. They've got the video. You

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01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 2: should see some of this stuff. Some of these pitches

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01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 2: are like five feet outside the strike zone. There was

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01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 2: just no doubt. He wasn't going to take any chance

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01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 2: that the batter was going to swing, because if the

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01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 2: batter swings, the pitch is a strike and not a ball.

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01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 2: So we had to throw it so far that even

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01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 2: a stupid hitter wouldn't chase the pitch. Paul said, how

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01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 2: much is he making? The story that I have here

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01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:53,840
Speaker 2: from the Athletic dot com, which is part of the

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01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 2: New York Times. They found it on some of these bets,

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01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 2: some of these individual bets, there were as much, in fact,

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01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:02,679
Speaker 2: to the indictment. Better's made more than four hundred thousand

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01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 2: dollars off of his alleged rig pitches. Now on some

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01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:07,720
Speaker 2: of these, will the next pitch be a ball or

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01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 2: a strike? They have low limits the gambling sites have

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01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 2: just to prevent anybody from wet inside knowledge of something

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01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 2: or another. So he had to do it a lot

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01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:18,679
Speaker 2: of different times. Throw a ball here, throw a ball there,

1313
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 2: et cetera. So the gamblers am making a fortune. And

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01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 2: his cut was just the four hundred thousand. So the

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01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,919
Speaker 2: loss here for the gambling sites that were doing it

1316
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 2: was massive. And the way it's often caught as the

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01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 2: gambling sites will start to flag why was there so

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01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 2: much money on this? Secondly, there are informants. The thing

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01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 2: with when you when you're dealing with the mob, an

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01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 2: organized gamb was what you don't think they're going to

1321
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 2: talk to save themselves. He recruited another pitcher for Cleveland,

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01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:48,599
Speaker 2: or Teas, to do the same thing. Or Teas's number

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01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 2: was about sixty thousand dollars, so he made four hundred

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01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. His salary was four point five million. He's

1325
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 2: going to be likely go to prison, he's going to

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01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 2: be banned from baseball for life. You can say, well,

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01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 2: why did it? Just probably seems like such easy money.

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01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 2: How how is anybody going to catch it? The thing

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01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 2: that's going to continue to develop as a scandal in

1330
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 2: sports betting isn't so much throwing games. It's going to

1331
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 2: be these proposition bets. And I just think all the

1332
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 2: gambling sites that operate this need to reconsider whether or

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01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:21,839
Speaker 2: not they're setting themselves up to be fleeced right and left. Because,

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01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 2: for example, in basketball, they'll have a prop on the

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01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 2: number of rebounds a player gets. Let's imagine it's five,

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01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 2: the over under is five? Really easy for a guy

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01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 2: who's got three rebounds not to get the fourth or

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01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 2: the fifth. And who would even notice the ball? You know,

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01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 2: he didn't reach for the ball, etc. This case, the

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01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 2: guy pitches a ball or a spiracle. Pitchers throw balls

1341
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 2: all the time. How would you ever know? And I'm

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01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 2: not criticizing sports gambling one way or Another's legal hero

1343
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 2: in Wisconsin how to do it a patdo, and the

1344
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 2: Indian casinos and so on. Sports betting is figned. But

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01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 2: these proposition bets, as I say, they are a terrible

1346
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 2: threat to the integrity of all of these sports. And

1347
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 2: this is whether sports have to continue to insist upon

1348
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 2: the death penalty, in other words, banned from the sport

1349
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 2: for life to anyone who does it, even the one time.

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01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 2: It's the only way to prevent it. With regard to

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01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 2: Wisconsin football program, Wisconsin announced earlier in the week that

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01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,600
Speaker 2: Luke Fickle will come back as head football coach. I

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01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 2: think that's the right decision. Wisconsin football programs having a

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01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 2: terrible season, but it's a schizoy team. Wisconsin has one

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01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 2: of the best defenses in the country. They held Oregon

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01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,559
Speaker 2: the week prior to twenty one points, and Oregon has

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01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 2: as good an offense as you'll find anywhere, and the

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01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 2: defense was just awesome against Washington. Fikel has built an

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01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:40,680
Speaker 2: incredible defense. The problem is the offense stinks, and he

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01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 2: hired a bad offensive coordinator in his first two years

1361
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 2: and it's taking time to rebuild the offense, get in

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01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 2: better recruits. The offensive line's a mess, and all of

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01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 2: his quarterbacks keep going down. He's now lost his first

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01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 2: spring quarterback in each of his first two years, and

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01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 2: now with Danny O'Neil going down Saturday, his first and

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01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 2: second string quarterback this year. But I think that they

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01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:04,759
Speaker 2: recognize they have to fix the offense. But he's built

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01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 2: a world class defense, which is a pretty good starting point. Secondly,

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01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 2: with all these schools firing coaches and Wisconsin not having

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01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 2: donors that are willing to come up with a kind

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01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:15,719
Speaker 2: of money to hire a great coach, to just start

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01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 2: over again, have everybody transfer out, including they've got two

1373
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 2: freshmen on defense that they decided not to red shirt.

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01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 2: They insert in the middle of the season. There's two

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01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 2: of them that are Mason Poso, who wears number eight.

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01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 2: He just freshman. He's only played a couple of games out.

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01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 2: He's as good a defensive player as I think is

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01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:36,759
Speaker 2: in college football. He is right there, alright, He's a freshman.

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01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:39,720
Speaker 2: I'm putting him right there already with the great linebackers

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01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 2: in Wisconsin history in Wisconsin is linebacker you both Watts,

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01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 2: several others over the years. He's just a phenomenal athlete

1382
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 2: and he they won the game almost single handedly because

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01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 2: of him. The fumble that I get to watch while

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01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:54,639
Speaker 2: this is on my phone on the sitting on the turmac.

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01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 2: He forced the fumble on the five yard line, which

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01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 2: is the only reason Wisconsin scored a touchdown at all.

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01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 2: And then on the final driver, Washington was stymied. He

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01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 2: made a sack earlier and then on the fourth down

1389
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 2: played the Quodawx scrambleak for first down and he tackled

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01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 2: him on that. So, I mean Fickles brought in these

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01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 2: players that he has a good defensive system, and I

1392
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 2: think understanding that in college football, when you fire the coach,

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01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 2: the whole team transfers. You start from scratch, and they're

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01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 2: not going to be able to hire to eat his contract.

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01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 2: I mean, the big problem Wisconsin he has is that

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01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,600
Speaker 2: the donors will not come up with enough money to

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01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 2: pay for five star recruits. I mean, I am not

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01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 2: close to this part of it. I know people who are.

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01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 2: They think the problem with Wisconsin might be in the administration,

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01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 2: with the athletic director Macintosh, and not necessarily the head coach.

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01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 2: I think Wisconsin's overall athletic department is very very good.

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01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 2: The basketball team's pretty good, the women's hockey team is

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01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 2: a dynasty, the women's volleyball team is very good. The

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01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 2: athletic directors in charge of all of that. It's not

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01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 2: just the football. But I do think there is hope

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01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:59,720
Speaker 2: that by next year Fickle will have an offense that's

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01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:01,680
Speaker 2: much better, and if he can keep this defense at

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01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 2: the level that it's at, I think that they can

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01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 2: bounce back. Unfortunately, they're going to get killed this weekend

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01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 2: they play Indiana, which is Indiana might be the best

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01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 2: team of the country. They look like they were going

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01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 2: to finally lose a game on Sunday and guy made

1413
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 2: like the best catch of the history of college football.

1414
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 2: And they didn't. But Wisconsin did in beating the fans

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01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 2: even ran the field. I mean that shows you how

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01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 2: far Wisconsin's falling. The beating the number twenty four team

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01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 2: in the country causes you to run the field. But

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01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:28,640
Speaker 2: it was just it was just a shot in the

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01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 2: arm for a beaten down program. And the other credit

1420
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 2: to Fickle's whole staff is normally when the wheels fall

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01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 2: off on a team like that, the players quit. They

1422
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 2: haven't quit. They're trying harder than ever. And they got

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01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 2: their win. And after they lose to Indiana next week,

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01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 2: they left chances in the final two weeks of the season.

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01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:51,560
Speaker 2: And now this I'm going to tell you about a

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01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 2: football team that has scored two hundred and eighteen points

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01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 2: the last four weeks. That's a lot. Look at you,

1428
01:19:56,920 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 2: and they're trying to do the math. Actually, the like

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01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 2: every late game lasts every not the night, not the

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01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 2: Sunday night game, but every one of the late three

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01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 2: o'clock games, the winning teams going over forty points. I

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01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 2: mean all three of the three o'clock game. And that

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01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 2: was enough that before I fell asleep and I was

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01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 2: able to pick up a note, River Falls, I'm killing you.

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01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:23,640
Speaker 2: The State University System Conference and so on, Paul, I

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01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 2: don't remember River Falls ever being good in anything. I

1437
01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:34,799
Speaker 2: mean anything, not just the academics, sports anything. Their football

1438
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 2: team is ranked number four in the country this year,

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01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 2: and I look this up because they beat my alma mater, Lacrosse,

1440
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 2: which is a very good football team, that killed them.

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01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:43,680
Speaker 2: River Falls in the last four weeks has scored two

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01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 2: hundred and eighteen points, and they've played two or three

1443
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 2: of the better teams in the conference. In that stretch.

1444
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:54,839
Speaker 2: They scored fifty two against Stevens point, seventy three against Eauclaire,

1445
01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 2: fifty two against Whitewater, and forty one against Lacrosse. It's

1446
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 2: not like they just hired a hot they've been They've

1447
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 2: gotten good the last few years and this is the

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01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 2: strongest team ever. But two to eighteen points in the

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01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 2: last four weeks. That was river Falls at Paul. That's

1450
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 2: see I wanted you do a two story podcast, but

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01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 2: there's just always too much and I have to We

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01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 2: got it all in today, Talk to you soon.

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