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Speaker 1: Let's go to John John you order Mark Madden show.

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Speaker 2: Hey Mark, thanks for having me and thanks for focusing

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Speaker 2: on the Pens because right now they're the only team

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Speaker 2: that matters in Pittsburgh. Answer your question, I would keep

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Speaker 2: Maulkin for the year by year contract, like he stated,

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't go past Sid contract.

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Speaker 3: I just don't see.

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Speaker 2: Any benefit to it, even though he's a legend. He

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Speaker 2: stilled out to play it smart and you got to

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Speaker 2: see what Sid wants to do first.

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Speaker 4: The only reason you'd be doing it is to make

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Speaker 4: him happy and comfortable, and look how badly that's worked

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Speaker 4: out with the Steelers and TJ. Watt and giving him

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Speaker 4: way too much money, too guaranteed, and for too long.

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent agree in your opinion. Do you think

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Speaker 2: the Penguins need to win a series for this season

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Speaker 2: to be a success or is it already a success.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a success that they make the playoffs,

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Speaker 4: and even if they lose in the first round, take

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Speaker 4: it the six or seven games. I think if they

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Speaker 4: go out like in four or five, it'll it'll.

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Speaker 1: Make what happened in the regular season look like a fluke.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I think to really feel good about it.

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Speaker 1: You gotta win a series.

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Speaker 4: But but the the landscape changes all the time, is

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Speaker 4: they is they do better?

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Speaker 1: Like like at one point.

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Speaker 4: I thought the best thing would be to finish bottom

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Speaker 4: five and get a better pick.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to John.

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Speaker 4: I mean, don Don, you're all with double M what

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Speaker 5: Yeah, In terms of the pen ceiling, I think they

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Speaker 5: could make it to the Eastern Final. And really, when

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Speaker 5: you look at the teams, there's just so much parody

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Speaker 5: between the East. I mean, it's like a razor edge.

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Speaker 5: Every night. A point is such a big deal, and

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Speaker 5: I think what what would really suck is if if

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Speaker 5: they that this team has heart and they don't give up,

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Speaker 5: and they make comebacks a regular habit, and I just

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Speaker 5: it would be such a bummer if they did not

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Speaker 5: make the playoffs and at least get a chance to

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Speaker 5: have their hat in the ring with some of these

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Speaker 4: I think they Yeah, but let's not forget earlier in

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Speaker 4: the year they had a habit of blowing leads as

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Speaker 4: opposed to coming back. So so you hope that won't resurface.

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Speaker 4: But you got to remember that it is an eighty

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Speaker 4: two game season and in all the game's cont momentum

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Speaker 4: and trends are on their side right now in terms

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Speaker 4: of the way they're playing, and ain't much of it

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Speaker 4: got to do with luck. I mean, last night you

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Speaker 4: win seven to a Denver. They ain't got much to

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Speaker 4: do with luck at all. But but yeah, the problem is,

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Speaker 4: who would you see as a good matchup in the

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Speaker 4: first round. I don't see any team that they could

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Speaker 4: play where I would see it as a as a

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Speaker 4: not an automatic win, but even a real good matchup.

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Speaker 5: No, I don't see any automatic wins, but I see

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Speaker 5: it winnable series across.

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Speaker 4: No the only teams, the only team I don't think

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Speaker 4: Tampa just has too much firepower and too much experience,

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Speaker 4: even though that experience over the past how many years

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Speaker 4: they make them a little bit more tired. But I

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Speaker 4: think Buffalo is beatable because they're so young and haven't

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Speaker 4: been in the playoffs in longer than the Penguins. I

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Speaker 4: think Carolina is beatable because their coaching's rotten and they

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Speaker 4: I'd be worried about the Islanders because they're the Penguin's

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Speaker 4: bogie team in Matthew Schaeffer simply dynamite Columbus would normally

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Speaker 4: be comfortable with playing, but they're tough to play against

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Speaker 4: their edgy. They're gritty, they don't give up either. Their

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Speaker 4: goaltending is good enough, so there's no team they would

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Speaker 4: play at automatically feel good about playing. Agreed, Thank you

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Speaker 4: for the call you're thrusting an here, all of that

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Speaker 4: Penguin ceiling. Give it a ring eight three three, four

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Speaker 4: to one two WXDX. That game last night was nuts.

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Speaker 4: Carlson took over, Gino took over, Chiloff's made some big

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Speaker 4: saves at big times. China Koff just keeps playing in

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Speaker 4: it can keep happening. But appreciated, is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Mantha's got those soft mits for a big guy. Just

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Speaker 4: I said, it's it's it's looking looking not not great

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Speaker 4: World Baseball Classic tonight. I know the atmosphere is going

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Speaker 4: to be great at Miami because every Venezuelan in a

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Speaker 4: for Venezuela. It'll be the home game for Venezuela. But

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Speaker 4: isn't it kind of a mismatch on paper? Then again, Italy,

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Speaker 4: with only four major league players, got all the way.

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Speaker 1: To the semifinals.

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Speaker 4: That was due to the managerial brilliance the former Pirate

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Speaker 4: like baseball that's based on one hundred and sixty two

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean it's not entertaining. It obviously, very certainly is.

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Speaker 4: I just didn't like that semi final with Dominican every

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Speaker 4: You got second and third bottom of the seventh Dominican

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Speaker 4: tie the game. It was more important for him to

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Speaker 1: As a result, he did neither.

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Speaker 4: And we're also talking about the NHL Announsten is gonna

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Speaker 4: have a World Cup of Hockey in twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 4: Still won't say Irussia is going to be allowed to play.

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Speaker 4: If they can't because there at are, then the US

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Speaker 4: the same thing. Sorry, but it's the same thing. You

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Speaker 4: it's not exactly the same thing. So I think Russia

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Speaker 4: make it best on best. But it's not best on

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Speaker 4: big check. He pays his NHLPA dues too. When Canada

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Speaker 4: But all we remember is that Henderson scored in seventy

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Speaker 4: hockey be hockey. And some people are saying what nations

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Speaker 4: A check reporter is saying that the Czechs, the Swedes

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Speaker 4: and Finns have already said they're not playing if Russia plays.

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Speaker 4: First off, that's absolutely fabricated. Whoever reported that made it up.

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Speaker 4: None of those nations would be saying we're not coming

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Speaker 4: now for an event that happens in two years. They

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Speaker 4: have a three team tournament between Russia, US and Canada,

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Speaker 4: those are the three hockey nations, the top most, and

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Speaker 4: I think Sweden would play. You got those four teams,

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Speaker 4: those are the four top nations. Everybody else f off.

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Speaker 4: See you later go be self righteous at a B

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Speaker 4: list tournament. I don't know, play it in Helsinki wherever.

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Speaker 4: Who gives a crap your thoughts to any of that?

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Speaker 1: I see.

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Speaker 4: I don't like international hockey like some do. I think

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Speaker 4: it detracts from the NHL. The NHL makes its own

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Speaker 4: products seem inferior and puts assets for teams like the

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Speaker 1: Hurt at risk. Don't like it.

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Speaker 4: Uh, However, here's how I would make the World Cup

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Speaker 4: of Hockey even bigger.

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Speaker 1: Have the heated rivalry.

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Speaker 4: Guys play Connor's story got as many cups as Connor

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Speaker 4: McDavid story isn't really rush him, but just give him

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Speaker 4: That's assuming Russia is permitted to play.

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 4: Your thoughts A three three, four one two w xdx.

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Speaker 4: This is the Mark Man Show. We got Jesse Marshall

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Speaker 4: talking more hockey at the bottom of the hour. Here

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Speaker 4: on one O five to nine, genius Mark Madden doing

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Speaker 1: How you liking now?

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Speaker 6: G exit?

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Speaker 4: I get amused by certain things in sports, will more disgusted?

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Speaker 1: Really?

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Speaker 4: I wrote a column about some of them for the

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Speaker 4: in March Madness and debated whether Miami, Ohio should be

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Speaker 4: Yet part of the reason the NCAA includes so many

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Speaker 1: To every school that's even remotely deserving.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm sorry, going thirty one and one, no matter

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Speaker 4: remotely deserving. What do you think Pitt would have beat

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Speaker 4: I'm not paying too much attention to the NCAA, because

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Speaker 4: there's no local tie in stirring nil, all the transfers,

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Speaker 4: just the general stupidity of college sports, and I'm not interested.

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Speaker 4: But I do know that a thirty one to one

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Speaker 4: the bam ade Bio thing that happened last week after

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Speaker 4: kicked in at that point, scored eighty three points. You

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Speaker 4: heard the SoundBite from Reggie Miller. Eighty three is eighty three.

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Speaker 1: He got. Here's the big factor.

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Speaker 4: We talk about all the files the Wizards committed, and

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Speaker 4: you know Miami filed that, you know, get the ball

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Speaker 4: pass Kobe. Well, Yo, he scored thirty one points in

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Speaker 4: it's legit, eighty three, look at the good two because

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Speaker 4: many points Wilton Kobe had in their first quarter. I

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Speaker 4: doubt it was more than thirty one. Your thoughts, any

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Speaker 4: And of course we're talking about the Penguins and their

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Speaker 4: great win last night at Denver. What were you thinking

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Speaker 4: when you saw that? I couldn't believe it. Of course

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Speaker 4: Jesse Gina Coffin mal can just keep getting better and

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Speaker 3: Oh man Mark, You're coming out with the hard ones

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Speaker 3: He's a darting skater Mark, so he can hit holes quickly,

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Speaker 3: So you know, I think, you know, Malkin was already

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Malkin's playing wing, of course, but I get the idea.

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Speaker 3: When you're playing in that role with two talented offensive

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Speaker 1: What did you make of that win last night? I

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Speaker 4: They got seven goals and only twenty shots, but I'm

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Speaker 3: That's it, Mark. And here's the thing. I think the

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Speaker 3: Last night, I thought that they skated beautiful. I mean, look,

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Speaker 3: They mitigated a lot of risk, Mark and approach that

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Speaker 3: No argument for me on that, Mark, and this is

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Speaker 3: they made that trade and Mark, he's made a couple

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Speaker 3: And you think back to last year, Mark, where they

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Speaker 3: the car on the way home, but what he does

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00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 3: defensively allows Eric Carlson the freedom to do what he

437
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 3: does offensively. Those two things can't coexist without each other.

438
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 3: And he assumes quite a bit of risk in his role,

439
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,360
Speaker 3: but you'd never know it when you look at his results.

440
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Speaker 3: Analytically speaking, Mark, that's been the best defensive pairing in

441
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Speaker 3: the league for the last week, and yeah, I think

442
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Speaker 3: that it's really helped carry them to points in Sydney

443
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Speaker 3: Crosby's absence.

444
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Speaker 4: What do you make of the goaltending, because the stats

445
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 4: aren't great for either guy. They're not bad, but they're

446
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,120
Speaker 4: not great. But they make big saves. I mean, look

447
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Speaker 4: at Skinner in particular at Utah.

448
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mark, here's just what I think it comes down to, right,

449
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Speaker 3: is we can create this statistic where we have a

450
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 3: statistic called expected goals against, right where we really say, okay,

451
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 3: if a league average goaltender was in net, a summational

452
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 3: average of all the goalies in the league. Here's how

453
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 3: many goals they would have allowed based on a shooting

454
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Speaker 3: that went on in this game. The scoring chances, the

455
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 3: shot types, the locations. Right, we create this expectation of

456
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 3: performance for the most part, See Loves and Skinner are

457
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 3: performing exactly to that expectation. You'll take that every single time, Mark,

458
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Speaker 3: I mean, you'd love right for them to be above

459
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Speaker 3: the line a little bit, but if you're just getting

460
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Speaker 3: returns that are expected returns, it's tough for me to

461
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Speaker 3: complain about that. And I think there's been times, Mark,

462
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 3: look at Edmonton right now, right, they've already they've already

463
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 3: they already pulled the yank up there on Jari. That's

464
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,159
Speaker 3: what the Penguins have needed at times. It's just somebody

465
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 3: who can, when the game needs it, make that one save.

466
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 3: I think it's happened a ton of times really over

467
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Speaker 3: the course of last NA, especially in the third period

468
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Speaker 3: of Utah. Skinner was just under siege and you didn't

469
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Speaker 3: get the greatest start in that game. So I felt

470
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 3: that was sort of a redemptive arc for him within

471
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 3: the scope of that individual game. But you know, Mark,

472
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Speaker 3: I can't recall a time in my life where I've

473
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Speaker 3: seen a team go into the playoffs with a one

474
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Speaker 3: A one B tandem, so I'm interested to see what

475
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Speaker 3: happens with this. I feel like Dan Mwes is waiting

476
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 3: for someone to rise up and grab I don't.

477
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Speaker 4: I think he'll rotate in the playoffs if nothing changes

478
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 4: drastically between now and then.

479
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Speaker 3: It hasn't hurt him so far, so, you know, I

480
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 3: think those are bad ideas. Mark when you're scrambling down

481
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 3: the stretch run and you can't find a starter, so

482
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 3: you're just throwing anything at the wall. This seedle sticks.

483
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Speaker 3: This is sort of like an expectation he's created and

484
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 3: a cultural thing within the scope of the team. So

485
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 3: I think if there ever was a time it was

486
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Speaker 3: going to work, it would be this one because it

487
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 3: seems like both guys understand exactly what's going to be

488
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Speaker 3: expected in them.

489
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Speaker 1: Jesse.

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Speaker 4: One thing that's kind of odd about the Penguin season,

491
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Speaker 4: which is going, you know, well so far, it's not

492
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Speaker 4: really rebuilding arriving early, is it? Because only have a

493
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 4: couple young guys doing much. That's kinda lin chinakough and

494
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Speaker 4: that makes me wonder about some of the other guys, like,

495
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Speaker 4: for example, Coyvenan. Is he a four A player like

496
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 4: an AHL star, because I've been disappointed and he plays

497
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Speaker 4: so small he is.

498
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Speaker 3: Right now, Mark, Yeah, that's what concerns me is he

499
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 3: looks like a completely different player in Wilkesbar scrant and

500
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 3: he has this confidence to make one on one moves

501
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Speaker 3: with defenders that he doesn't seem to have at the

502
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Speaker 3: NHL level. He's got this willingness to shoot down there

503
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 3: that he doesn't seem to have at the NHL level.

504
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 3: He's having trouble getting to where the puck's going to be,

505
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Speaker 3: And I think that goes to what you're saying in

506
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Speaker 3: terms of playing small. He's not somebody that you can

507
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 3: send in on a fore check and expect to walk

508
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 3: away with the puck. So that's what's tough when it's skating,

509
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 3: right Like Rutger McGroarty is a great example of this. Mark.

510
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 3: They sent Rutcker McGroarty down, they got him with really

511
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 3: good skating coaches, and his skating got discernibly better. You

512
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 3: can put someone in the gym, you can bulk them up,

513
00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 3: like changing their willingness to participate in certain aspects of

514
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 3: the game is always a hard thing and it's always

515
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 3: the thing that sticks people in that quadi category. So

516
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 3: it's unfortunate he's there for now. I don't think he

517
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 3: closed the book on this, but I think the Penguins

518
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 3: are at a point where they're being very crystal quiet

519
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 3: for him to who are.

520
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Speaker 1: The younger players?

521
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Speaker 4: Like we know Kendall is great, we know China Kopp

522
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 4: in his time here has been great. I think it's

523
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Speaker 4: too early to think that Brunick's of bost He just

524
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Speaker 4: went back to juniors. Maybe that was the best thing

525
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Speaker 4: for him, But who is the most likely to arrive

526
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Speaker 4: next in being significant contributor beyond Kindle and China.

527
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Speaker 3: Coopf Let's put Harrison Brunick aside for a second, Mark,

528
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 3: because I think it's him. I think he's the answer.

529
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Speaker 3: You know, granted he's had to go back to junior.

530
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Speaker 3: He's looked like a different player there. Mark. It's very

531
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Speaker 3: clear that the Penguin said to him, you've got to

532
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 3: get better defensively, you've got to improve in front of

533
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 3: your own net, and he's taken that task by the

534
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 3: scruff of the neck. Beyond that, I look at bills

535
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 3: On and who is unfortunate he got hurt? And development

536
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 3: camp wasn't around for people to get a good look

537
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 3: at in the preseason again, had an extended injury that

538
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 3: took him out through January basically of the new year.

539
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 3: But you look at the way he plays the game,

540
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 3: Mark and it's pro is It just screams pro style game.

541
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Speaker 3: The willingness thing hege physically, He's great defensively right now,

542
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 3: he has an NHL shot today. At this moment, I

543
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 3: don't know that the way he uses it is at

544
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 3: the NHL level yet I think that's getting refined. I

545
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 3: think I think his boots are getting refined Mark in

546
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 3: terms of agility based adjustments, not in terms of his

547
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 3: front to end speed or his starting from a dead stop.

548
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 3: But it's the turning, right, it's the pivoting. I think

549
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 3: that stuff's getting cleaned up. But the attitude, the strength,

550
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 3: the soft that all the skills that go with playing

551
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 3: defense and you know, generating scoring chances and bills on

552
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 3: and just has them in spades. And I think when

553
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 3: it's all said and done, that's going to be a

554
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 3: player who's going to really quickly become a fan favorite

555
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 3: in the city by virtue of the way he plays

556
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 3: the game. It gives you that little bit of that Chris.

557
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 4: But he's not a top six correct. I think he's

558
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 4: probably a real good third liner.

559
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: Is that fair?

560
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 3: And starting to challenge that? Mark? You look at the

561
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 3: offensive and I know he's in the queue, right, So

562
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 3: you always take the queue with a grain assaut when

563
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,719
Speaker 3: somebody's putting up numbers, because that's just the way that

564
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 3: league is. But when you look at his skill set offensively,

565
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 3: it seems like it's growing. It doesn't seem like he's

566
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 3: plateaued at all. I think some of the things he's

567
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 3: doing the defenseman this year, in terms of his dangling,

568
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 3: has started to really make me rethink where his ceiling

569
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 3: might be. And I don't think whoever be a top

570
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 3: line forward, Mark, but I think he's somebody you could

571
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 3: adequately plug on a second line and get some pretty

572
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 3: decent returns out of In the future.

573
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Speaker 1: Would you extend Malkin and not for two years? I

574
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: hope not.

575
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 3: For two years? No, But I think he's done enough

576
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 3: this season for me to be comfortable with bringing him

577
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 3: back on a you know, a sensical contract, right, I go.

578
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: Year by year. I just can't give him two years.

579
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: And if that's a deal, breaker.

580
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 4: I had heard when the initial conflict came up and

581
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 4: Gino did his sermon on the mount after the game

582
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 4: at the Garden that he wanted two years.

583
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: I just can't give him two years.

584
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 4: I can't give him, especially Jesse, I can't give him

585
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 4: term beyond SID.

586
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: That would make no.

587
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Speaker 3: Sense one hundred percent. That was going to be exactly

588
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 3: what I was going to say, is that you can't

589
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 3: give him term beyond SID. We don't not knowing what

590
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 3: happens with that situation, you know that that that dictates

591
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 3: a lot of I think, you know what Kyle Jeubis

592
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 3: is going to be challenged with here, and you know,

593
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 3: for all we know Mark, you know he injures the

594
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 3: knee again next year. Now you're saddled with the second

595
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 3: year coming, you know, him coming off another knee injury,

596
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 3: and it just doesn't make any sense from a business perspective. Again,

597
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 3: I'd handle it year by year. If he comes back

598
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 3: next year, does the same thing he's doing this year,

599
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 3: something similar to that, maybe you go back to the

600
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 3: drawing board, you bring everybody back to one last run.

601
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 3: But yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't do two years a

602
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 3: term at this point in time.

603
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 4: Even the geno thing, even keeping him a year and

604
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Speaker 4: I would probably do it. At some point he goes splat,

605
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 4: and the key is to get out early. Like I

606
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 4: look at the contract given TJ. Watt and maybe it's

607
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 4: apples and oranges, but maybe it's not. They they could

608
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 4: have kept him year by year and mitigated his decline,

609
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 4: and now they're on the hook for what was one

610
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 4: hundred and eight million guaranteed and he's getting worse.

611
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 3: And he's not thirty nine years old either, right, that's

612
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 3: the other thing. So I mean, yeah, I mean, I

613
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 3: think to your point, they're just this this whether we like,

614
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 3: whether we like it or not, right, whether we want

615
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 3: to agree, you know, agree to disagree. Here, it's fine.

616
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Speaker 3: This year is an anomaly, really, Mark, if you look

617
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Speaker 3: at the last five, this year is the anomaly and

618
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 3: the exception to the rule. You don't make decisions in

619
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Speaker 3: three year windows off of one good season, right, And

620
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 3: I'm not here to say the last you know, he's

621
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,239
Speaker 3: been trash or undeployable, but the numbers weren't there. They

622
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 3: didn't they didn't justify any deal at all, let alone

623
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Speaker 3: a two year one. I think that horse has been

624
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 3: bucked a little bit, and I think that now you're

625
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 3: at a point where you can comfortably say, yeah, based

626
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 3: on the season, we bring him back, But no, at

627
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 3: his age, Mark, look at the problem you're in with

628
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 3: Crystal oftk right. I mean that that. I mean that

629
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 3: his play has discernibly declined.

630
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 9: You know.

631
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 3: I think they've they've struggled with deploying him this season,

632
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 3: and that that contract's not going anywhere. It's thirty five plus.

633
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 3: You can't buy him out right, You're not just going

634
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 3: to send him down to Wilkespare. He's got into trade clause.

635
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 3: So what do you do about that? You can't afford

636
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 3: a second situation like that one.

637
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 4: What would you do with Mantha? He's thirty one, having

638
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 4: a career. Y're twenty six years old, but coming off

639
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 4: major knee surgery. I think he's going to get three years,

640
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 4: which is too long, and I bet he gets too much.

641
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 4: I can't keep him, but i'd.

642
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 3: Like to the thing that so I agree with you, Mark,

643
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 3: he's played his way out of the city. In my opinion,

644
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 3: in terms of the amount of money some general manager

645
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 3: out there is going to be willing to sort. It'll

646
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 3: probably be Edmonton, Mark, It'll probably be Edmonton. The Oilers,

647
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 3: in their never ending search for a solution, will come

648
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 3: up with some five year, nine million dollar a year

649
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 3: contract for him. You know, I'm not I'm not gonna

650
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 3: diminish what Anthony Manta has done. I mean, the guy's

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Speaker 3: been unbelievable Mark, but this is a one year incentivelated

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Speaker 3: in contract. But as he struggled with staying on the

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Speaker 3: ice before this, right, So, Like again, context matters here

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Speaker 3: and you've got to look at the history to some extent.

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Speaker 3: I'm not here to beat the guy up. That's just

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Speaker 3: the reality of the situation. There's some level of risk

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Speaker 3: that comes with giving him term. I'm less concerned about

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Speaker 3: the term, and I just think the money is going

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Speaker 3: to be too much. I think looking at this goal

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Speaker 3: total right now and again, some of these teams that

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Speaker 3: are like right on the cusp and are looking for

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Speaker 3: a quick, easy solution in their mind, that's gonna I

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Speaker 3: think that's gonna be where he ends up. I think

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Speaker 3: it'll be a probably a price tag that I don't

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Speaker 3: think anybody in Pittsburgh would be willing to pay. And

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Speaker 3: I think that's how this is gonna go. It'd be

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Speaker 3: great if he took a discount though, because he's been

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Speaker 3: on believable. I think he's back to, you know, a

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Speaker 3: really dynamic version of himself. He looks healthier than he

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Speaker 3: has in a long time. But again I think it's

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Speaker 3: just a risk deal to go, you know, term and

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Speaker 3: money in this situation.

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Speaker 4: Jesse, great stuff as always, enjoy the hockey. We'll talk

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Speaker 4: again real soon.

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Speaker 3: Hit it.

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Speaker 4: That's Jesse Marshall's phone gave out. It just the right time,

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Speaker 4: I think. Okay, Now it's time to ask Mark Anything

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Speaker 4: in your questions for Ask Mark Anything. Use the talkback

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Speaker 8: the Pens one five nine d X.

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Speaker 1: Hey, it's how Mandel and I am Ince Mark Madden.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Mark love the show.

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Speaker 1: Well if I won over Buddy betating Dusty Road to

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Speaker 1: American Dream.

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Speaker 6: So be it baby the exit one oh five nine.

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Speaker 1: You know what's incredible? Now?

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Speaker 4: The geno implied he'd like to play two more years.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people in media and even more people

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Speaker 4: on Twitter saying, what's.

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Speaker 1: The harm give him two years?

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Speaker 5: He's gino.

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Speaker 4: That would be beyond stupid, giving him term beat longer.

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Speaker 1: Than Sid has left with he beyond stupid. What don't

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Speaker 1: you get what's the harm of going year by year? Crap? Now,

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Speaker 1: I don't even want to bring him back at all.

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Speaker 1: If that's all we're gonna do is just, oh, let's

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Speaker 1: let the legends play forever. I got an idea.

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Speaker 4: Let's sign touch and f cut small couldn't sit on

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Speaker 4: the line, that'd be great. You people, you get stupid

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Speaker 4: every second, and I can't wait till I quit time

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Speaker 4: to ask Mark anything A three three four one two

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Speaker 4: w xd X. I mean that you do get stupider

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Speaker 4: every second. Let's go to eb or EBB from Hootersville.

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Speaker 4: Eb you're on with double M.

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Speaker 1: Hey now, Mark, Hey, now.

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Speaker 3: I know you're big.

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Speaker 8: You enjoy the gateway?

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Speaker 3: Clipper? Does EV have anything to do with the naming

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Speaker 3: of your cast?

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Speaker 4: No? I just cut Clipper was named. It could easily

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Speaker 4: be yelled and was unique. I do like the Gateway

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Speaker 4: Clipper though, but like you can Clipper Clipper see and

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Speaker 4: she's listening now, I don't forget her.

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Speaker 1: The radio is always on at home, Clipper Clipper.

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Speaker 4: Let's go to Roddington. Roddington, you're on with double M.

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Speaker 9: Good day, mister Madden.

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Speaker 1: I said, good day, hey Mark.

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Speaker 9: A little English Premier League talk for you. As you know,

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Speaker 9: I'm a Spurs fan.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, congratulations on you really impressive one one tied anfield,

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Speaker 4: well done.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I was impressed by that.

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Speaker 2: I mean I think I thought we were gonna lose

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Speaker 2: three nail honestly, but I'm.

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Speaker 10: Thankful we've got a point against you guys.

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Speaker 2: My question is do you think Spurs are going down?

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Speaker 4: I hope. So let's go to Corey. Corey, you're on

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Speaker 4: with double M.

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Speaker 6: Good day, Double M.

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Speaker 1: I said, good day Mark.

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Speaker 3: Honestly I would give Geno a three year contract at

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Speaker 3: this point. He's playing light time.

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Speaker 4: Goodbye, he's thirty nine. You want to give a thirty that?

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Speaker 4: You just said that to be stupid and mission accomplished.

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Speaker 1: I'm hated. I can't wait to quit.

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Speaker 4: You guys get dumber every day, and it's it's just

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Speaker 4: a sign of the times. Everything's populous now. Sports talk

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Speaker 4: used to be about talking about the truth. Now it's

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Speaker 4: about telling people what they want to hear so you

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Speaker 4: can reap the benefits from it. Well, I've reaped the

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Speaker 4: benefits long enough by telling the truth.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to change. Let's go to Joe.

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Speaker 10: Hey Mark little apples and oranges comparison here with all

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Speaker 10: the talk of Malkin maybe getting two years, immediately flashes

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Speaker 10: back in the mistake of I know the two different

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Speaker 10: players going and we gave Jeff Carter a two year

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Speaker 10: extension for no reason, way too early where his career go.

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Speaker 1: No, there was a reason. He was Ron Hextall's buddy

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Speaker 1: from the La Kings.

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Speaker 10: Sure, no, and I get that, but it just in

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Speaker 10: terms of play. It's if Dupus is going to be different, and.

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Speaker 4: We all think Dupus is not well, one thing I

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Speaker 4: can tell you for certain, for certain, Dupus will not

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Speaker 4: give Gino a two year deal. I can tell you

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Speaker 4: that for certain. I don't think he even wants to give

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Speaker 4: him a one year deal. But if two years is

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Speaker 4: a deal breaker, it's going to be cyanar a Gino

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Speaker 4: for sure, I guarantee it as it should be.

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Speaker 1: Well, I hope you're right. Let's go to Chris Chris

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Speaker 1: Shohn with double M.

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Speaker 9: Hey Mark, what up?

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Speaker 3: Maang? What up?

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Speaker 9: Hey Mark? I want to get your take on who

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Speaker 9: you think the unsung hero for the Penguins is this

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Speaker 9: year by my own nomination, but want to hear your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: The unsung here.

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Speaker 4: Well, Carlson starting to get sung more and more, even

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Speaker 4: though him playing great after two bad years as a

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Speaker 4: Penguin kind of caught us unawares at first and we

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Speaker 4: didn't know what to make of it.

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Speaker 1: Anthony Mante.

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Speaker 4: I'd probably say Anthony Mant, although twenty six goals that's

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Speaker 4: fairly sung as well.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a big believer in fourth line stars. I

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Speaker 1: don't know.

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Speaker 4: It might be Parker Watherspoon for the way he's partnered Carlson.

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Speaker 4: Who would you say?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I go with Parker. I like Nola Chari. The

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Speaker 9: guy seems to do everything. You know, he's blocking shot.

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Speaker 4: But Parker Watherspoon is a is Carlson's partner on the

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Speaker 4: team's top defense pair that is more meaningful than a

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Speaker 4: fourth liner could ever be.

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Speaker 9: Fair enough.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the call. Let's go to Nick Nick

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Speaker 1: ask Mark anything.

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Speaker 2: Mark, who would win in a fight, Lash LaRue or Francois.

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Speaker 4: Laro Last LaRue that I worked with in WCW. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Frankie would kill him, Just.

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Speaker 3: Kill him, agreed.

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Speaker 4: I mean Last was a good worker, nice guy too,

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Speaker 4: had that Cajun thing going. Thank you for the call.

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Speaker 4: One oh five nine,