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Speaker 4: Hi, Billy Cunningham, the great American greats everyhe with me
Speaker 4: this Sunday night. My Bengals, of course, lost again and
Speaker 4: again and again. Without Joe Burrow, they're now like three,
Speaker 4: so we'll see what happens with them and down the road.
Speaker 4: Without Joe Burrow, the Bengals are nothing. I love that
Speaker 4: guy from LSU and from the Southeast Conference, But I
Speaker 4: regress a little bit a couple of things. Number One,
Speaker 4: I've been mystified by the lack of information coming out
Speaker 4: about the assassin of Charlie Kirk and about what happened
Speaker 4: that fateful, awful day on September the tenth in Utah.
Speaker 4: I just you know, I would anticipate two or three
Speaker 4: months later we'd have a better sense of the assassin,
Speaker 4: who funded him, what was the idea? Some of the
Speaker 4: pieces don't fit. It didn't make sense as to how
Speaker 4: it happened, why it happened, why it was permitted to
Speaker 4: happen in a sense, and I'm thinking something's wrong. Later on,
Speaker 4: we have Joshua Phillip coming up. He wrote a a
Speaker 4: documentary that which came out about a week ago on
Speaker 4: the Young Leader charting a New path Forward. That's Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 4: And there was an interview about four or five days
Speaker 4: ago that kind of shed some light on what happened.
Speaker 4: And I'm not mentioning the murderer's name, how he was
Speaker 4: permitted to get on top of that building, how he
Speaker 4: was I guess, and wanted to stash his rifles somewhere
Speaker 4: where it would be located with his handprints on it.
Speaker 4: And none of it made any sense to me, And
Speaker 4: it still doesn't make a lot of sense, is how
Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk could have been put in that awful situation.
Speaker 4: And I know the security team for Charlie, some six
Speaker 4: members were one dred percent focused on protecting Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 4: I know some and the conservative media want to say
Speaker 4: there was some international forces at work. I'm not going
Speaker 4: to mention names of some of the stars of conservatism,
Speaker 4: many of which have fallen to my viewpoint that indicates
Speaker 4: there were international involvements in the killing of Charlie Kirk,
Speaker 4: et cetera. I like to have the evidence occur, the
Speaker 4: proofs be shown, and then the opinions derived from what
Speaker 4: of known facts as to how this could have happened,
Speaker 4: why it could have happened to someone like Charlie Kirk,
Speaker 4: who was at it for about thirteen years, beautiful wife, Erica,
Speaker 4: two little babies, and just murdered in public, as if
Speaker 4: he was crucified in public. So those who hate Charlie Kirk,
Speaker 4: of which there's millions and millions of Americans who continue
Speaker 4: to hate the guy because of the principles stood upon
Speaker 4: and how the assassination was allowed to transpire. One thing
Speaker 4: I'd read early on and a snippet that the six
Speaker 4: person security team of Charlie Kirk would always go a
Speaker 4: couple three days ahead of time to scout the location
Speaker 4: and to determine what's the exit route. And we're going
Speaker 4: to have certain barriers, and how do we deal with guns,
Speaker 4: how do we deal with an exit? How do we
Speaker 4: deal with possibly improvise explosive devices.
Speaker 1: How do we do all these things?
Speaker 4: After the attempted assassination of Donald Trump from an elevated
Speaker 4: top of a building, I know what was in their
Speaker 4: mind to protect the buildings when Charlie Kirk was literally
Speaker 4: a sitting duck, sitting on a chair under a canopy
Speaker 4: with three or four buildings one hundred and fifty yards
Speaker 4: away looking right down on him. And more information is
Speaker 4: coming out, I'm going to relate it to you. The
Speaker 4: chief of security for Charlie Kirk was a fine young
Speaker 4: man named Brian Harpool har Pol E. Harpool, and he
Speaker 4: claims the Utah Valley University Police Department failed to cover
Speaker 4: the campus rooftops after promising quote I got you covered,
Speaker 4: and he said that During a recent episode of a
Speaker 4: radio talk show, Hardpool had a security said that he
Speaker 4: and his team had raised concerns days ahead of time
Speaker 4: about the rooftop perch the exposure, though not drones could
Speaker 4: be flown to keep an eye on what's up there
Speaker 4: or put their own guys up there. So security for
Speaker 4: Charlie said, we have volunteers that'll go up on the
Speaker 4: roofs and just stand there, make sure no one gets
Speaker 4: no one else gets on the roof or we have drones.
Speaker 4: And there was text message messaging between Harpool which I'm
Speaker 4: going to share with you now and the chief of
Speaker 4: police for Utah Valley University, the head of the police
Speaker 4: department there, and Brian said, could we had concerns with rooftops,
Speaker 4: I mean the location. We weren't keen about the location,
Speaker 4: but it's our responsibility to protect Charlie and we know
Speaker 4: what our statutory authority is. We know we can't go
Speaker 4: up on top of the roofs, and let's give them permission.
Speaker 4: We also had numerous drones who wanted to fly to
Speaker 4: cover the whole crowd in real time, but we were
Speaker 4: told we can't do that because of because of airport restrictions.
Speaker 4: And so the head of security shared a purported screenshot
Speaker 4: of his text correspondence with Chief Jeffrey Long, chief of
Speaker 4: police of Utah Valley University. Harpool says the following, Hello,
Speaker 4: Chief Long, we received this message today from the student group.
Speaker 4: There's a student roof access pretty close to where c K.
Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk will be set up a Utah Valley, which
Speaker 4: is the Sorenston Student Center as a couple of staircases
Speaker 4: that go up to the walkways on top of the roof.
Speaker 4: The chief says, quote, you want access to the roof?
Speaker 4: Herpool chief of security says, I always told students have
Speaker 4: access above us. If that's true, it would be nice
Speaker 4: to either have a controlled access or allow one of
Speaker 4: my guys to be there on the roof. The chief said, quote,
Speaker 4: I got you covered. So he said later on, what
Speaker 4: else am I supposed to do when a command level
Speaker 4: person from an accredited police department says I got you covered?
Speaker 4: After that text, we never communicated again.
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
Speaker 4: And Harpool would not recall Long's first name, but during
Speaker 4: the interview, The Assault Lake Tribune reported that he was
Speaker 4: referring to Utah Valley University Police Chief Jeff Jeff Long
Speaker 4: Jeff Long. Harpool also noted that the orum orm Utah
Speaker 4: Police Department could have flown drones and as a SWAT unit,
Speaker 4: but we're never contacted by the UVU Police department for
Speaker 4: help despite a mutual aid agreement. The UVU has direct
Speaker 4: jurisdiction authority it's their campus, but the orum Utah police
Speaker 4: have a mutual assistance agreement and they were not contacted
Speaker 4: by UVU. So the security chief also said he upped
Speaker 4: the man in power to twelve at Utah Valley University
Speaker 4: because of the crowd. We normally run between eight and
Speaker 4: nine security personnel. We upped it based upon nothing other
Speaker 4: than the site itself. We're in a kind of place
Speaker 4: where we don't want to be. We're expecting a large crowd.
Speaker 4: So the long and the short of this is the
Speaker 4: security detail for Charlie Kirk raised the issue of the perch,
Speaker 4: the sniper's perch on top of the buildings, and the
Speaker 4: Chief police said, quote, I got you covered, and with
Speaker 4: that the issue was resolved. They set it up, set
Speaker 4: up the canopy, set up to tent, set out the handouts,
Speaker 4: they had behind them, they had a way out, They
Speaker 4: checked for improvised explosive devices. There was armed personnel around
Speaker 4: in case somebody could come to the front with a
Speaker 4: rifle or a gun. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: all it would have taken was for the UVU Police
Speaker 4: Department to have a personnel and Charlie Kirk's security detail
Speaker 4: what a provided personnel simply to stand on top of
Speaker 4: the roofs or someone else but it didn't happen.
Speaker 1: You know, hindsight's twenty twenty. But in this case, I.
Speaker 4: How Charlie was allowed to be in that position at
Speaker 4: that time and largely unprotected. I guess I kind of
Speaker 4: refer back to what happened to John F. Kennedy in
Speaker 4: Dealey Plaza November to the twenty second nineteen sixty three,
Speaker 4: when Clint the security Secret Service guy, it was a
Speaker 4: failure of imagination where they couldn't conceive of someone from
Speaker 4: the sixth four Depository named Lee Harvey Oswald the murder
Speaker 4: of John F.
Speaker 1: Kennedy. It couldn't conceive of it.
Speaker 4: And when Trump was all attempted murder of Donald Trump
Speaker 4: just before the presidential election in Butler County, Pennsylvania, the
Speaker 4: Secret Service, I guess, the top security detail in the world.
Speaker 4: The Secret Service did not have enough imagination to say,
Speaker 4: you know, that roof right there is only about one
Speaker 4: hundred and thirty yards away, and we better put somebody
Speaker 4: up there to make sure that a sniper doesn't get
Speaker 4: on top of that roof and shoot President Trump. They
Speaker 4: didn't do that. Either they said the roof was too
Speaker 4: hot or it was too sloped. Failure of imagination and
Speaker 4: in this case, you know, and the security detail said
Speaker 4: to UVU chief of police, Hey, what about those buildings
Speaker 4: up there on top? We can pull one of our
Speaker 4: guys up there. He said, I got you covered, and
Speaker 4: from that had a security for Charlie Kirk said, okay,
Speaker 4: it's covered. And of course it wasn't. It took a
Speaker 4: drone to identify someone climbing up there or a person
Speaker 4: standing there. And could the assassin have shot the person
Speaker 4: standing there? Sure, but he's dead. And so coming up later,
Speaker 4: we have a representative of Turning Point, USA. It's going
Speaker 4: to be with us. His name is Joshua Philip to
Speaker 4: talk about the new documentaries Out Truth, under Fire, young
Speaker 4: leader charting at different path.
Speaker 1: That was Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 4: Another world's a lesser place without him, and all of
Speaker 4: us would have been benefited more if he was around
Speaker 4: for another forty or fifty years. They say nothing of
Speaker 4: his children and his wife, So that's coming up later.
Speaker 4: And secondly, for those who follow me on X, the
Speaker 4: last few days have been remarkable. I put this on
Speaker 4: my X account which is at Willie WI l I
Speaker 4: E seven hundred WLW if you want to follow me
Speaker 4: and I said on my ex account, woke up this morning.
Speaker 1: A couple of days ago.
Speaker 4: Trump holds a love fest with Mom Donnie in the
Speaker 4: Oval as Marjorie Taylor Green exits Congress trashing Trump. Trump
Speaker 4: works with the commie mayor of New York City. But
Speaker 4: because Marjorie Taylor Green a trader, how's this possible? And
Speaker 4: I also I also had tweeted her x earlier quote.
Speaker 4: Trump handling of Mondamie was brilliant. With Trump's support, he
Speaker 4: is saying that when socialism fails horribly, which it will,
Speaker 4: it'll be due to the commedist policies unfettered by Trump,
Speaker 4: New York City voters will have no one to blame
Speaker 4: but themselves as prices rise and the city collapses, Will
Speaker 4: a big apple survive?
Speaker 1: That's another one.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 4: I look at this and every now and then I
Speaker 4: kind of wish the President would restrain from attacking those
Speaker 4: in a personal way, especially those who have supported him
Speaker 4: so long and hard. On the other hand, is handling
Speaker 4: in Mom Donnie, on one hand was brilliant. So when
Speaker 4: New York City falls under the way to socialism, socialism
Speaker 4: fails because you're running other people's moneys to spend. According
Speaker 4: to Margaret Thatcher that you won't be able to blame
Speaker 4: Donald Trump because the policies will fail. Socialism has worked. No,
Speaker 4: we're on the face of the earth, whether it's Cuba
Speaker 4: or Eastern Europe or Venezuela or Russia, Socialism and communism
Speaker 4: simply doesn't work. So when the President didn't get enough
Speaker 4: fight with Mam Donnie, he kind of sent the message.
Speaker 4: You know what, the media was unhappy about that. The
Speaker 4: media wanted Trump to fight Mam Donnie to make Mom
Speaker 4: Donnie look better. And after the get together in the Oval,
Speaker 4: the Mam Donnie still said he's a fascist and he's
Speaker 4: a dictator and all that kind of crap. But nonetheless,
Speaker 4: at this point the two of them are close, and
Speaker 4: we'll see what happens. I hope Donald Trump is playing
Speaker 4: three dimensional Vulcan blindfold at chess and everyone else is
Speaker 4: playing checkers, and I hope that's the case. And lastly,
Speaker 4: once again this morning on Monday, the Sunday talk shows,
Speaker 4: instead of dealing with the mayhem and the riots in
Speaker 4: Chicago where a teen was murdered, fourteen year old teen
Speaker 4: eight wounded in shootings during a teen takeover in the
Speaker 4: Loop after a tree lighting ceremony celebrate the birth of
Speaker 4: Jesus Christ, and Chicago police are completely overwhelmed.
Speaker 1: I don't blame them.
Speaker 4: They're overwhelmed. They don't know what to do. New York
Speaker 4: cities and collapse. Look at the status of Los Angeles.
Speaker 4: I have a guest coming up later to talk about
Speaker 4: can America survive if the major three cities in this
Speaker 4: country are in complete socialists and collapse? When the police
Speaker 4: are diminished, when there's sanctuary cities, when government programs are funded,
Speaker 4: which are welfare programs at the expense of law enforcement.
Speaker 4: I can't conceive. Every now and then I think New
Speaker 4: York's in worse shape. In Chicago or in La. Then
Speaker 4: they know LA's in worse shape. Look at Karen Bass,
Speaker 4: Look what's happening there, And I'm thinking, Okay, which city's worse?
Speaker 1: Right now?
Speaker 4: Chicago goes to the rioth that took place in mass
Speaker 4: shooting outside the Chicago Theater left seven teams wound at
Speaker 4: one dead age. Of these victims, we're thirteen to seventeen
Speaker 4: years old, shot by other thirteen to seventeen year olds,
Speaker 4: and others were found shot around the city. As Mayhem
Speaker 4: reigned Supreme I read the story a fourteen year old
Speaker 4: boy was killed in eight others teams shot during a
Speaker 4: bustling Friday night to kick off the Christmas season. They
Speaker 4: call it the holiday season. It's chaos. And of course
Speaker 4: Brandon Johnson, who's a clown, He's a goof. Brandon Johnson said, well,
Speaker 4: this are all isolated incidents, much like the isolated incident
Speaker 4: when a killer was arrested seventy two times forty nine felonies,
Speaker 4: scorts a bottle of gasoline on a rider in the
Speaker 4: Metro and sets her on fire. And of course Brandon
Speaker 4: Johnson said, well that's a that's kind of an isolated incident.
Speaker 4: And all the thousands of murders and shootings in Chicago
Speaker 4: are all isolated incidences. Unbelievable. Let's take a short break,
Speaker 4: come back with more. I want to talk about the
Speaker 4: attempt by Democratic lawmakers to cause insurrection in the military.
Speaker 4: Incredible story. Let's continue. It's sad about Charlie Kirk. It's
Speaker 4: just everywhere I look, I see say, what's happening to
Speaker 4: our great country? Twenty two minutes after the hour, Bill
Speaker 4: cunning and the Great American with you every Sunday night,
Speaker 4: man If you want to see a picture of the
Speaker 4: victim of this attempted murderer. Her name is Bethany McGhee.
Speaker 4: It's on foxnews dot com. Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy has
Speaker 4: identified the twenty six year old victim who was set
Speaker 4: on fire, Bethany McGee, and he also criticized the city's
Speaker 4: crime difficulties. Look at the riots Friday night in the loop,
Speaker 4: shutting down to the water tower, et cetera. Chicago was
Speaker 4: in collapse. It can't continue this way, but it will
Speaker 4: because I would assume Brandon Johnson would get He's got
Speaker 4: a ten percent approval factor. Who knows the next one
Speaker 4: might be worse than him. The person involved who did this,
Speaker 4: the attempt murderer, as seventy two prior arrests. He's fifty
Speaker 4: years old, accused of setting twenty six year old Bethany
Speaker 4: McGee on Chicago's L train on fire and never would
Speaker 4: have happened, of course, if he'd been locked up for
Speaker 4: any of the dozens of felonies that he's committed. His name,
Speaker 4: I'll say it one time. Is Marcus Reid spent decades
Speaker 4: cycling through the Chicago, Illinois, Cook County jail the so
Speaker 4: called criminal Justice Center out on bond at the time
Speaker 4: of the assault. There was a social justice de incarceration
Speaker 4: female African American Liberal Democratic judge who gave him an
Speaker 4: ankle monitor. Most recently for an assault that took place
Speaker 4: in August, and Reid intentionally used gasoline in a lighter
Speaker 4: to set McGee on fire. She was minding her own
Speaker 4: business reading her phone, seated in the middle of a
Speaker 4: train when Reid approached her from behind, doused her head
Speaker 4: and body with gasoline and set her on fire, and
Speaker 4: video shows Reid watching the woman engulfed in flames as
Speaker 4: she rolled on the ground, yelling and screaming, trying to
Speaker 4: save herself. Prosecutors obtained a video showing Raid at a
Speaker 4: gas station twenty minutes earlier before the attack, paying the
Speaker 4: cashier and filling a small container with gasoline. He said,
Speaker 4: a career. Her woman's name is US Magistrate Laura McNally.
Speaker 4: Now he charged federally asked him if he knew the
Speaker 4: maximum sentence now he's in real court at federal court.
Speaker 4: Said it's life imprisonment. He said, that's cool, that's cool,
Speaker 4: that's fine. And he spent his life committing crimes all
Speaker 4: over Chicago, and at no point to the Chicago judges
Speaker 4: lock him up for all the assaults and crimes he'd committed.
Speaker 4: He'd received seventy two arrests, forty nine convictions. Fifty years old.
Speaker 4: Now he's in adult court and which is felony, federal court.
Speaker 4: Now he's going to be finally spend the rest of
Speaker 4: his life in jail. He beat people up, stole stuff,
Speaker 4: kicked women, pulled women's hair, sexually assaulted women, rob stores
Speaker 4: all of his life. And Chicago because of the deincarceration movement,
Speaker 4: because of social justice, because of reparations, because according to
Speaker 4: some of these judges, too many black men are incarcerated.
Speaker 1: Red was available to do that to this fine woman.
Speaker 4: While let's continue in their calls eight sixty six six
Speaker 4: four seven seven three three seven Bill cunning and the
Speaker 4: Great American with you every Sunday night. I'm Billy cunning
Speaker 4: in before I take your calls. One other issue, we
Speaker 4: have some of these Democratic lawmakers, one who sew seeds
Speaker 4: of insurrection in the US military. There is no social
Speaker 4: convention they will not destroy to get it. Donald Trump, Now,
Speaker 4: if anyone really believes that the goal of these lawmakers
Speaker 4: is to somehow inform the military as to what their
Speaker 4: rights and duties are. That's a bunch of bs. They
Speaker 4: know what their rights and duties are. So when democratic
Speaker 4: lawmakers like Michigan Senator Elisa Slotkin or Senator Mark Kelly,
Speaker 4: or some representatives like Deluzio or Hulahan or a good
Speaker 4: Lander and some others did this video?
Speaker 1: Number one?
Speaker 4: Who paid for the video? How was it put together?
Speaker 4: How about pursuing that for a while. But the goal,
Speaker 4: as you may know, was to cut a video urging
Speaker 4: members of the military not to obey on lawful orders
Speaker 4: that Trump might issue. He then responded by issuing a
Speaker 4: series of social media posts suggestion these members had committed
Speaker 4: sedition and possibly deserve to die. I'd rather let the
Speaker 4: statement of these so called lawmakers hang out there without
Speaker 4: any response. There's about one point three million active duty
Speaker 4: service members that know what their responsibilities are. They know
Speaker 4: in the US Code of Military Justice they're not supposed
Speaker 4: to and they would not follow illegal orders or unlawful orders.
Speaker 4: The Code actually says any person subject to this chapter
Speaker 4: who willfully disobeys a lawful command of that person's superior
Speaker 4: commission officer shall be punished if the offense is committed
Speaker 4: in time of war by death or by such other
Speaker 4: punishment as a court martial may direct, or if the
Speaker 4: offense is committed at any other time such other punishment
Speaker 4: as the court martial may direct. And so when you
Speaker 4: think about it, on the surface, what these lawmakers was
Speaker 4: saying essentially was restating what the law is anyway, in
Speaker 4: other words, that you could take not their words and
Speaker 4: their expressions. But the wording in the video is carefully vague.
Speaker 4: So it's easy enough to agree with what they're saying
Speaker 4: because that's what the law is. But it's totally useless.
Speaker 4: There's no mention by any of them in the last
Speaker 4: five years where Donald Trump has issued some illegal laws order.
Speaker 4: When asked repeatedly, what can you give me an example,
Speaker 4: none of them can say. Well, in the four years
Speaker 4: in the first term and almost a year of this term,
Speaker 4: they can't come.
Speaker 1: Up with any of them, and.
Speaker 4: There's no mention by them as to what order is
Speaker 4: given by the president that has been given. So that's
Speaker 4: illegal because they know such wording would land them in court.
Speaker 4: So they're trying to make the case that what Trump
Speaker 4: is trying to do in Venezuela or in major cities
Speaker 4: is somehow unlawful, and that the spineless video put together
Speaker 4: by these Democrats fails to do that. It simply implies
Speaker 4: wink wink, nod, nod. So what they're saying is black
Speaker 4: letter law. But what they want to say is this
Speaker 4: president issues illegal orders and engage in an insurrection or
Speaker 4: rebellion against savaying command.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable.
Speaker 4: And the timing of this, I thought was interesting. You know,
Speaker 4: time after time after time, beginning with the Russian collusion delusion,
Speaker 4: and a dozen more after that. Whenever one of the
Speaker 4: lies fail against Donald Trump, the media and the Democrats
Speaker 4: come up with the next lie to keep the hatred
Speaker 4: of Donald Trump going. In a sense, the Epstein files
Speaker 4: are fading and failing because it appears the Democrats are
Speaker 4: more tagged by Epstein and his misbehaviors than Republicans or
Speaker 4: Donald Trump. Whether it's Senator George McGovern or the Clintons
Speaker 4: or Akeem Jeffries who solicited money from Jeffrey Epstein, or
Speaker 4: whether it's a member of Congress who actually text it
Speaker 4: with Jeffrey Epstein during a congressional hearing, it's the Democrats
Speaker 4: who have the problems and not Donald Trump with the Republicans,
Speaker 4: because that is failing. The timing is interesting again, it's
Speaker 4: a weapon of mass distraction released by these Democrats because
Speaker 4: they weren't getting enough mileage out of the Epstein fiasco.
Speaker 4: So Democrats started the door, opened the door about signing
Speaker 4: off on orders that they went the military to rebel
Speaker 4: and commit an insurrection against the United States.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable.
Speaker 4: And secondly, before I take some calls, you know, I
Speaker 4: watch everything simultaneously so you don't have to MSNBCC and
Speaker 4: now I watch it all. It was Thursday night Jake Tapper,
Speaker 4: fake Tapper was on with Andrew mcab and I should
Speaker 4: have recorded it at the time, but I've looked for clips.
Speaker 4: But I'm going to paraphrase what those two said. And
Speaker 4: they were talking a course about Epstein and Epstein and
Speaker 4: Epstein and Epstein. It's all about Epstein. And Andrew McCabe,
Speaker 4: as you may know, was second in command of the
Speaker 4: FBI for a long time. He was a CNN contributor
Speaker 4: before he was fired, and then he was acting FBI
Speaker 4: director for a while. Also, so the guy knows where
Speaker 4: the bodies are buried. And Jake Tapper asked Andrew McCay
Speaker 4: relatively to the Epstein matter. The Southern District of New
Speaker 4: York in twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen investigated the Epstein matter.
Speaker 4: So Jake Tapper Fake Tapper said to Andrew McCabe, well,
Speaker 4: you were in the office when that was going.
Speaker 1: I'll go on.
Speaker 4: He said, absolutely. He said, we did an exhaustive investigation.
Speaker 4: And Jake Tapper said, what do you mean by exhausted?
Speaker 4: He said, well, we assumed, like many others, that there
Speaker 4: were many.
Speaker 1: Many, many, many, many many many.
Speaker 4: Men involved directly and indirectly in the sins and crimes
Speaker 4: of Jeffrey Epstein and Julane Maxwell. We assumed that to
Speaker 4: be the case. So we got all the files out
Speaker 4: of Florida, both state and federally. We got the files
Speaker 4: out of Washington, d C. We assigned in the Southern
Speaker 4: District of New York our best best human trafficking prosecutors.
Speaker 4: Mainly there were women to go after, including by the way,
Speaker 4: James Comey's daughter was one of them. By the way,
Speaker 4: if you heard her talk about recently Donald Trump's involvement
Speaker 4: with Jeffrey Epstein, the answer, no, I haven't heard a
Speaker 4: word out of James Coney's Comy's daughter who worked in
Speaker 4: the Southern District. So he said to Andrew mckayble, what
Speaker 4: did you find in the investigation, because you had trafficking
Speaker 4: human trafficking experts the Southern District of New York, which
Speaker 4: is perceived to be the best US attorney's office in
Speaker 4: the world in the right there. Obviously, I'll say this,
Speaker 4: but he didn't you wanted to get all the men
Speaker 4: involved who had sex with these hundreds of girls. The
Speaker 4: girls have said there's maybe a thousand girls, and that
Speaker 4: means there's hundreds of men, billionaires and actors and actresses
Speaker 4: and financiers and bankers and lawyers and politicians, all these men.
Speaker 1: And.
Speaker 4: They'd like to know other than Larry Summers, who was
Speaker 4: Obama's Secretary of the Treasury and worked with the Clintons,
Speaker 4: who has resigned from his teaching position to Harvard without
Speaker 4: admitting he had sex with the girls, by the way,
Speaker 4: none of that. He said, well, why didn't you indict
Speaker 4: these other men, these men that had sex with teenage girls,
Speaker 4: as you and I know, that's a serious felony. And
Speaker 4: he said, well, Andrew McCabe kind of looked down and
Speaker 4: said well, Jake, well, fake, Jake Tapper, We indicted the
Speaker 4: two people we had evidence against. He said, you mean
Speaker 4: Julane Maxwell and Jeffrey. He said, yes, that was it.
Speaker 4: And Jake looked at him and said, well, were you
Speaker 4: were you? Were you concerned or frightened or scared about
Speaker 4: indicting these rich, powerful men. And Andrew mccape said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: no no no. We do that all the time. Hell
Speaker 4: that we indicted in the next present. We indict people,
Speaker 4: That's what we do. And there wasn't evidence of anyone
Speaker 4: other than Maxwell and Epstein who committed crimes in this
Speaker 4: whole enterprise. So I'm sitting there stunned if that's true.
Speaker 4: Would you be stunned in the years beginning in nineteen
Speaker 4: ninety four with a woman named Farmer? It's been thirty
Speaker 4: more than thirty years, And is it possible that you're
Speaker 4: chasing your tail without significant men being involved in this
Speaker 4: other than maybe Larry Summers Lauren Summers, former president of
Speaker 4: Harvard who never admitted to having sex with the teenage girls,
Speaker 4: or Prince Andrew not a prince anymore, who denies having
Speaker 4: sex with Virginia Geufrey. It happened. Did it happen? If
Speaker 4: I had been an armor leg I'd say it did.
Speaker 4: But where are the hundreds or thousands of men over
Speaker 4: a twenty five year period that Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein
Speaker 4: involved in their sins and crimes. Andrew McCabe said, there
Speaker 4: aren't any. Eh, say that again, are you?
Speaker 1: He said, are?
Speaker 4: And then Jake said, well, are you concerned about their
Speaker 4: power and their prestige? He said, no, not at all.
Speaker 4: We indicte people like that all the time if there's
Speaker 4: evidence of it. So, Jake Tapper after that second question,
Speaker 4: the whole segment might have taken five minutes.
Speaker 6: To me.
Speaker 4: Having watched this now for a long time, and at
Speaker 4: some point I'll find and Danny boy Gleazen, if you
Speaker 4: can find that from Thursday night, that'd be great, that
Speaker 4: five minute segment at the end of it, the investigators,
Speaker 4: the experts in human trafficking, access to all the financial records,
Speaker 4: the banking records, the insurance records, the witnesses, all Epstein victims.
Speaker 4: After an exhaustive investigation US Attorney's Office in the Southern District,
Speaker 4: Andrew McCabe said the two people with evidence were indicted
Speaker 4: and that's it. Huh what what? I'm stunned. I'm still
Speaker 4: stunned because I think I thought there were dozens of men.
Speaker 4: The girls at their news conferences say there's hundreds of men.
Speaker 4: How many times have these girls, now women in their thirties,
Speaker 4: forties and fifties, layout who raped them? You know, some
Speaker 4: don't want to live it again, but many do, and
Speaker 4: God bless them. You're a rape victim. You come out,
Speaker 4: You identify your the perpetrator, You identify the man who
Speaker 4: sexually took advantage of you. The only one that's come
Speaker 4: out is Virginia to Giuffrey with Andrew Prince Andrew, that's it.
Speaker 4: She also accused wrongfully Alan Dershowitz of having sex with
Speaker 4: her six times. Alan Dershowitz the attorney for Jeffrey Epstein,
Speaker 4: who also said there's no there there other than Jeffrey
Speaker 4: Epstein and Juy Maxwell. When Jeffrey blamed Alan Dershowitz, he
Speaker 4: went jihad on boys in the law firm representing Geffrey,
Speaker 4: and after an exhaustive investigation, Jeffrey said about Alan Dershowitz,
Speaker 4: you know what, I may have misremembered that it didn't happen.
Speaker 4: What so David Boyce and others were sued by Alan Dershowitz,
Speaker 4: and everyone filed dismissals with prejudice. Jeffrey issued an apology
Speaker 4: of sorts to Alan Dershowitz, So who are these hundreds
Speaker 4: of men? And why don't the reporters ask these women
Speaker 4: who claimed to be raped?
Speaker 1: Who raped you? Who did it? Went on for years?
Speaker 4: I need names so we can identify the wrongdoers, the perpetrators.
Speaker 4: And that's your system of justice right there, that the
Speaker 4: rapist is located and punished well in real time. Seven
Speaker 4: or eight years ago, the US Attorney for the Southern
Speaker 4: District of New York, which included also James Comey's own daughter,
Speaker 4: said the only two people they could indict or Julane
Speaker 4: Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein, as confirmed by Andrew mckabe, who said,
Speaker 4: that's all there is, is any of this possible. I'm
Speaker 4: still waiting to hear other names. I've heard Senator George Mitchell,
Speaker 4: You've heard President Bill Clinton. I think Donald Trump is
Speaker 4: in the in the clear at least by Jeffrey. According
Speaker 4: to Maxwell and also Jeffrey, he says he was always
Speaker 4: a gentleman and not one girl's come forward despite a
Speaker 4: bounty of a half million dollars by some to identify
Speaker 4: Donald Trump as a rapist, and they can't do it.
Speaker 4: And by this point, if it can't do it by
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, guess what, it can't be done because
Speaker 4: according to Andrew McCabe.
Speaker 1: I hardly ever saw him on anything. I don't believe him.
Speaker 1: He said, guess what, that's it? Just those two.
Speaker 4: Let's continue, got full lines, of course, I'll take some
Speaker 4: calls with guests coming up. You're gonna enjoy, I hope,
Speaker 4: including a documentary filmmaker who Joshua Phillip, who put together
Speaker 4: Young Leader Charting a New pat Charlie Kirk. We also
Speaker 4: have later on Brigit Gabriel and Moore, Bill Cunningham, the
Speaker 4: Great American?
Speaker 1: Is that all? There is? All this?
Speaker 4: Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night. Tell us continue,
Speaker 4: We never stopped. We simply continue. I put it out
Speaker 4: months ago. I'll put it out now. The Epstein connection
Speaker 4: to Donald Trump will fail miserably, like so many others
Speaker 4: have failed in the past, miserably to tag Donald Trump
Speaker 4: with this thing. And it's a consequence. They're going to
Speaker 4: jump onto some other event and it's going to continue
Speaker 4: whether or before he got into office. They went after
Speaker 4: Donald Trump. They cherry picked and doctored emails, and one
Speaker 4: email dealing with Donald Trump and Virginia Giuffrey was out
Speaker 4: and it didn't have residence. Her name was hidden as
Speaker 4: someone who was involved with Donald Trump, and then when
Speaker 4: it came out it was her. She'd give a numerous
Speaker 4: interviews saying Donald Trump was always always a gentleman. And
Speaker 4: you know, we hired Donald Trump to cut taxes and
Speaker 4: secure the border, keep men out of women's sports for
Speaker 4: any ron from attending nuclear weapons, getting hostages out of Gaza,
Speaker 4: dealing with the budget deficit, dealing with the instructive, terrible
Speaker 4: problems we have in this country. And it's a consequence
Speaker 4: what they did was spyle on his campaign. The government
Speaker 4: did hired a Mueller, and then it was impeachment one,
Speaker 4: impeachment two. Then it was the law Fair launched by
Speaker 4: Alvin Bragg and Fanny Willis and Nathan Wade and Laticia James.
Speaker 4: Then it was the Arctic Frost investigations that started two
Speaker 4: to three years ago, in which Jack Smith and the
Speaker 4: Justice Department whire tapped the phones of Republican senators and
Speaker 4: also my good friend Jim Jordan from Ohio went on
Speaker 4: and on and on. Every time something failed, they came
Speaker 4: up with something else. And so right now we're in
Speaker 4: the difficult straits because at some point, more and more
Speaker 4: and more the Epstein matters are going to come out,
Speaker 4: and as long as Democrats are mainly responsible, the media
Speaker 4: won't cover it. If there was a Republican name mentioned,
Speaker 4: guess what, it'll be a big deal. But because I
Speaker 4: think Trump's largely all the hook, now what has to happen,
Speaker 4: of course, is that you have come up with with
Speaker 4: more torpedoes to take down Donald Trump. He's the road runner.
Speaker 4: He's very hard to catch. And now it's going to
Speaker 4: be giving orders to the military that some in the
Speaker 4: military ranks will oppose because they fear being indicted when
Speaker 4: Trump leaves office. The implication of what these Democratic lawmakers
Speaker 4: are saying is that if you follow in illegal order
Speaker 4: when he's out of office, we're going to come and
Speaker 4: reduce you in rank and lock you up. So that's
Speaker 4: the lever of chaos. We have nothing but chaos we
Speaker 4: have in this country. Right now, now, let's continue, the
Speaker 4: line becomes available five one three seven four nine, seven thousand,
Speaker 4: But I'm sorry, the number to call is eight sixty
Speaker 4: six six four seven seven three three seven. So because
Speaker 4: the Trump links to Epstein is not going to work.
Speaker 4: They want to come up with something else. Come up
Speaker 4: with something else. And this is about Venezuela, the war talks.
Speaker 4: Since the war drums are sounding and Morduro's in trouble
Speaker 4: and Trump he wants to meet the Trumpster. What's gonna
Speaker 4: happen in Venezuela. I have no idea, but at this point,
Speaker 4: right now, we're largely at peace throughout the world. Ukraine
Speaker 4: are getting hammered by the Russians and there's not much
Speaker 4: the Trump's can Trumpster can do about it except try
Speaker 4: to stop it. And for the fourth or fifth month
Speaker 4: in a row, not one illegal alien has crossed the
Speaker 4: southern border.
Speaker 1: How about that? Let's continue.
Speaker 4: I saw on the with my good friend Sean Hannity
Speaker 4: the other day Bridget Gabriel, who talks more forthrightly about
Speaker 4: what's happening in Lebanon throughout the world than anyone else,
Speaker 4: and what's happening in dearborn, Michigan.
Speaker 1: With a call to prayer.
Speaker 4: There's stay tuned for that, plus later on we have
Speaker 4: the Great Joshua Phillip who's written the documentary, produced the
Speaker 4: documentary about Charlie Kirk and also later on as the
Speaker 4: Live Report from Nigeria about what's happening there, Bill cunning
Speaker 4: and the Great American with you every Sunday.
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Speaker 1: Bill Bill Cunningham, the Great American.
Speaker 4: Of course, Brigitte Gabriel is the leading expert on global
Speaker 4: Islamic terrorism and what's happening throughout the world. And the
Speaker 4: one part of the Middle East that has Western values
Speaker 4: and one of the best places to live.
Speaker 1: Would be Israel.
Speaker 4: Whether you're a man or a woman, whether you're gay
Speaker 4: or straight, whether you're a Muslim, Catholic, Jew, Christian, whatever
Speaker 4: it is, I've been to Israel. I want to go
Speaker 4: back one more time. It's a wonderful place to live.
Speaker 4: Unlike most other parts of the Middle East, eachy oft
Speaker 4: it is perceived to be a moderate Muslim country where
Speaker 4: about ninety five percent of the girls are sexually mutilated
Speaker 4: when they have their first period, and of which if
Speaker 4: you want to leave the.
Speaker 1: Faith, you might be stoned to death.
Speaker 4: And that that's considered enlightened and Brigitque Gabriel, Welcome again
Speaker 4: to the Bill Cunningham Show. I have your column up
Speaker 4: about Muslim Brotherhood's plan to infiltrate and destroy America. They're
Speaker 4: well on their way. Look at the election of Mam
Speaker 4: Donnie in New York City. But tell us what is
Speaker 4: planned by the Muslim Brotherhood for America taking over at
Speaker 4: the ballot box.
Speaker 8: Thank you, Bill, great question, and I'm so glad to
Speaker 8: be back with you. And that's such a great point
Speaker 8: to bring up because everybody he was looking at New York,
Speaker 8: everybody was focused on Mamdani. Everybody was worried about Mamdanie.
Speaker 8: But people did not realize that at the same time,
Speaker 8: seventy six Muslim candidates were running for office nationwide, and
Speaker 8: on election day, forty two of them have been declared winners,
Speaker 8: with three races still pending. Recouncil or certification. So the
Speaker 8: forty two Muslim officials right now occupy positions and some
Speaker 8: of the most influential jurisdictions in the country, from New
Speaker 8: York's mayor's office to Virginia's executive brands, from Michigan's heartlands
Speaker 8: to a local school board. And by the way, the
Speaker 8: elected officials spent at least nine states bill in New York, Virginia, Michigan,
Speaker 8: New Jersey, Maryland, Washington, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina. They
Speaker 8: elected six mayors, four state legislatures, twenty city councils, and
Speaker 8: the commissioners, six school board members, two judges, and three
Speaker 8: other political positions. And that's exactly what the Muslim Brotherhood
Speaker 8: Project for North America. The document that our government introduced
Speaker 8: as evidence and the largest proism financing trial in American history,
Speaker 8: listed twenty nine front Slamic organizations set up in America
Speaker 8: with the sole purpose of infiltrating America and dominating America
Speaker 8: through civilization jihad. Politics is a civilization jihad, and they
Speaker 8: are well on their way.
Speaker 4: How many free elections are there in the Middle Eastern
Speaker 4: Muslim countries is not even known to exist.
Speaker 8: Exactly none, and even when they do it, it's it's
Speaker 8: like when Iran holds election, you know, the outcome before
Speaker 8: the election is over, you know, the outcome of the
Speaker 8: election a month before the election. It's just like the
Speaker 8: Russians under putin holding elections, you know. And in Lebanon,
Speaker 8: where actually they do have a republic, which is my
Speaker 8: country of birth, which is a republic, the radical Islamist
Speaker 8: that she mostly multiplied like crats and elected themselves into
Speaker 8: the government democratically. They ran for office. And by the way,
Speaker 8: Bill I thought a video just yesterday morning where they
Speaker 8: had Mollah in Lebanon that she hyped Mula congratulating all
Speaker 8: the Muslim candidates one in America by name, starting with Mamdani.
Speaker 4: Well, why one mind, asked Bridgique Gambert. What is the plan?
Speaker 4: You have something in your column about starting about thirty
Speaker 4: four years ago, the Muslim Brotherhood beating us at the
Speaker 4: ballot box, kind of selling us the rope to hang
Speaker 4: ourselves with.
Speaker 1: Why is it a problem and when did it begin?
Speaker 8: It's a problem. The Muslim Brotherhood Project was written in
Speaker 8: nineteen ninety one and it lays out a one hundred
Speaker 8: year plan for radical Islam to infiltrate and dominate the
Speaker 8: West and establish Islamic government on Earth, and the Counter
Speaker 8: Terrorism Circles Bill. It became known as the Project and
Speaker 8: the public first saw the details of the project. One
Speaker 8: is laws introduced in Dallas, Texas in two thousand and
Speaker 8: seven and the US government trial the US government versus
Speaker 8: the Hoyland Foundation, which is an Islamic foundation which raised
Speaker 8: twelve million dollars raised in America by Muslim Americans who
Speaker 8: sent money to Muslims and at least the terrorists organizations
Speaker 8: to support terrorism. And our government actually handed down one
Speaker 8: hundred and eight guilty verdicts to Muslim American and Muslim
Speaker 8: American organizations. And the most interesting part of the plan
Speaker 8: is the last page, which lists twenty nine Islamic organizations
Speaker 8: set up in America to destroy America from within. And
Speaker 8: I'll read you a paragraph from the plan that I
Speaker 8: just had to sitting at my desk. It says, uh,
Speaker 8: there's a paragraph that says, understanding the role of the
Speaker 8: Muslim brother in North America and I quote, the process
Speaker 8: of settlement is a civilization jihadist process. The brothers the
Speaker 8: Klan must understand that their work in America is a
Speaker 8: kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western
Speaker 8: civilization from within and sabotaging its miserable house by their
Speaker 8: hands and the hands of the believers meaning Muslims and so,
Speaker 8: and that's the concern. The last page they lists different organizations.
Speaker 8: The first organization is ISNA Islamic Society of North America,
Speaker 8: which used to be advisors to President Obama about Middle
Speaker 8: East policy. The number two organization on the list is
Speaker 8: the Muslim Student Association the NSA, which has more chapters
Speaker 8: on American college campuses than the Democrats and the Republican
Speaker 8: Those are the guys that are screaming antisemitism since October seventh,
Speaker 8: you know, killed the Jews, waving Palestinian flags and burning
Speaker 8: down American flags. Number twenty two on the list is
Speaker 8: IAP Islamic Association for Palestine, which later became care the
Speaker 8: Council on American Islamic Relations, who raised most of the
Speaker 8: money to support Mamdani and his election, and not just Mamdani,
Speaker 8: to support all the other Muslim candidates running for office.
Speaker 6: For Gabriel were elected.
Speaker 1: By the way, Yes forcy Gabriel.
Speaker 4: What happened in Western Europe I see a lot of
Speaker 4: the reports out of the BBC and also German newspapers
Speaker 4: in which they're reporting the serious blunder they had in
Speaker 4: Scandinavian countries, for example, importing Willie Nilly as Joe Biden
Speaker 4: did millions of Muslim refugees, which, by the way, Saudi
Speaker 4: Arabia Cutter takes zero the Muslim the so called Gulf
Speaker 4: stage to not take any of their own, but Western
Speaker 4: Europe said we'll step up and take all these Syrian refugees,
Speaker 4: Iraqi refugees, etc. What's happening in Europe today and why
Speaker 4: is the attitude changing there?
Speaker 8: Well, we have seen the transformation of Europe to Eurabia
Speaker 8: for decades right now, Bell and you and I have
Speaker 8: been talking about this for over fifteen years talking about
Speaker 8: this issue. The Europeans did not want to see it.
Speaker 8: The Europeans started importing Muslims to build Europe after World
Speaker 8: War two because they realized we can import cheap labor.
Speaker 8: So they started bringing the Algerians and the Libyans, et cetera.
Speaker 8: And after these guys worked for two years, they were
Speaker 8: supposed to go home. But the European realized, look, this
Speaker 8: is such cheap labor. And we are enjoying working in construction.
Speaker 8: We don't want to do this stuff. Let them bring
Speaker 8: their family and let them be together in Europe. So
Speaker 8: they started the family reunification program and these Muslims started
Speaker 8: bringing in their families. What aggravated the situation was with
Speaker 8: the wars in the Middleast for the last thirty years,
Speaker 8: you know, with the Iran and Iraq and after nine
Speaker 8: to eleven and Syria and the rise of al Qaira
Speaker 8: and of Isis. So all these refugees ended up in
Speaker 8: Europe because the useful idiots, which the European that's what
Speaker 8: I call them, just like the American useful idiots, the left,
Speaker 8: who wants to import all these Islamists into Europe while
Speaker 8: none of the Arabic countries wanted them. And basically the
Speaker 8: Muslims did not even want to go back to the
Speaker 8: Arabic countries. They didn't want to go there. They don't
Speaker 8: get any previous. They want to come to Europe where
Speaker 8: they can get welfare and they know they can do
Speaker 8: whatever they want and get away with it because Europeans
Speaker 8: are too weak to stand up for them, to them,
Speaker 8: because you know, we live in a judaeo Christian world.
Speaker 8: You know, Western civilization was built on the Judaeo Christian foundation,
Speaker 8: where you do unto others what you want others to
Speaker 8: do unto you, you open your arms. We're open minded, multicultural,
Speaker 8: we're tolerant, we're you know, we pride it out. We
Speaker 8: pride ourselves on our multiculturalism and diversity. But that's that
Speaker 8: was the beginning of our demise. That's the use that
Speaker 8: the Islamists are hanging around Europe's snack and around our
Speaker 8: net if we don't wake up here in America very
Speaker 8: very fast and start organizing and mobilizing. And that's why
Speaker 8: we with my Organization Bill. After after the election in
Speaker 8: New York and seeing all these Muslims who do not
Speaker 8: share our values elected to office, we are relaunching our
Speaker 8: chapter network nationwide and people can go to Act for
Speaker 8: America dot org right now. Act from America dot org
Speaker 8: click or join us. Sign up to start a chapter
Speaker 8: in your community, sign up to volunteer in your community.
Speaker 8: We will connect you with other like minded people in
Speaker 8: your community where you can come together and start passing legislation,
Speaker 8: influencing policy at the local level, and sending up to
Speaker 8: the lefty who are trying to remake and reshape and
Speaker 8: transform your community.
Speaker 4: You know, one of the saddest things I've seen is
Speaker 4: a video of little boys in the West Bank, Israel,
Speaker 4: in the West Bank Arab Muslims. These are five six
Speaker 4: seven year old little boys wearing a Jihad scarf and
Speaker 4: having guns in their hands, pointing at it at a
Speaker 4: map of Israel. I'm watching this video and I'm thinking
Speaker 4: the hate begins early in life to dissuade one from
Speaker 4: understanding the horrors of the world in which they live
Speaker 4: because of the behavior of Muslims and Arabs. But these
Speaker 4: boys are taught five six seven eight year old boys
Speaker 4: to hate the Jew, hate the Christian, hate, hate, hate.
Speaker 4: And then also I would point out that in Dearborn, Michigan,
Speaker 4: that it's that they had a powwow in which they
Speaker 4: have the call to prayers five times a day in
Speaker 4: five or six different mosques. And some of the citizens
Speaker 4: in Dearborn, Michigan went to a council meeting and said,
Speaker 4: you know what, I don't like that it's hard to
Speaker 4: sleep getting up at five point thirty in the morning
Speaker 4: with a call to prayers. And the Muslim mayor of
Speaker 4: Dearborn Michigan told the citizens to move. Nothing's going to change.
Speaker 4: And so what's happening in Dearborn, Michigan today will happen
Speaker 4: in your hometown tomorrow. And the idea of taking over
Speaker 4: a city government, it's going to happen in New York
Speaker 4: City with Mam Donnie. He's going to keep t shoes
Speaker 4: the police commissioner. But you read what he said in
Speaker 4: the past about what should happen in America to Jews
Speaker 4: and the fact that he celebrated the murder of Jews
Speaker 4: October seventh. We didn't see that as a problem. That
Speaker 4: is what's happening in America today and it's not going
Speaker 4: to change. And college campuses are ripe grounds to radicalize
Speaker 4: individuals against Jewish people, against the jew which is what
Speaker 4: happened in Berkeley a couple of weeks ago, three weeks
Speaker 4: ago when they were shouted down Charlie Kirk's organization, and
Speaker 4: so Regeque Gabriel, You're act for America dot org is
Speaker 4: the organization. But we have to understand what is being
Speaker 4: land and what's being executed. And I think only one
Speaker 4: political party recognizes it. Can you tell the American people
Speaker 4: I mentioned this and you would know, and a moderate,
Speaker 4: so to speak, Arab Muslim country like Egypt. What are
Speaker 4: the rights of a woman or a girl in Egypt,
Speaker 4: much less in Syria, Iraq, Iran, Lebanon. It's awful. But
Speaker 4: what happens is what happens in Egypt. If you're a
Speaker 4: girl and you get to be ten, eleven, twelve years old.
Speaker 8: WHOA, they've got a female the genital mutilation, even before
Speaker 8: you're eleven years old, when you are six seven years old,
Speaker 8: they literally canstrate you. They cut off your genitals and
Speaker 8: sow you up so your husband has to cut you
Speaker 8: with a knife on a wedding day. I'm sorry I'm
Speaker 8: getting into all this detail, but this is the reality
Speaker 8: that nobody in the West wants to talk about. Where
Speaker 8: are the voices of the now organization, the woman's organization?
Speaker 8: And this happens all over the world, not just in Egypt,
Speaker 8: but in any majority Islamic society, not to mention the
Speaker 8: right are stripped from non Muslims in these countries. I mean,
Speaker 8: look at the cops in Egypt, Look at the Assyrians
Speaker 8: in Syria, look at the Kaldeans and Iraq. Look what's
Speaker 8: happening all across the Middleast where Muslims are in power,
Speaker 8: the rights of the minority is being stepped upon, trampled on.
Speaker 8: They want to kick them out. They have no right.
Speaker 8: You know, in Egypt, you can only get an education
Speaker 8: up to a certain level, and you cannot get a
Speaker 8: job past a certain level because they are only reserved
Speaker 8: to Muslims. And that's in today's world, that's in the
Speaker 8: twenty fifth century. And that's exactly why we are warning
Speaker 8: Americans about the Muslim Brotherhood, which came out of the Egypt.
Speaker 8: By the way, this is where they started in Egypt
Speaker 8: in nineteen twenties, right after at the talk enter the
Speaker 8: Islamic Elfates in nineteen twenty eight twenty nine, that's when
Speaker 8: the Muslim Brotherhood was born out of Egypt and exported
Speaker 8: the radical ideology worldwide. And by the way, you saw
Speaker 8: my video about the Muslim Brotherhood. Right now, we are
Speaker 8: given being the Muslim Brotherhood document, the document that I
Speaker 8: just talked about that was introduced as evidence the plan
Speaker 8: for the Muslim Brotherhood. We're giving it away for a
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Speaker 8: America dot org right now and give it twenty six
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Speaker 8: they can understand what we are dealing with and what
Speaker 8: the Muslims are planning for the United States. We will
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Speaker 8: we want to get this plan in your hand.
Speaker 1: Well Actfroamerica dot org RGI. Thank you. This is the beginning.
Speaker 1: How it ends is not good.
Speaker 4: And there's no rights of minority in any Muslim dominated country,
Speaker 4: and women are treated like chattel in which the father
Speaker 4: will sell off the daughter for benefits for the family. Also,
Speaker 4: what's happening to the Christians in Nigeria? What can you
Speaker 4: tell me about that? What's happening? And what poco Harama
Speaker 4: Nigeria where Christians are being obliterated, poor.
Speaker 8: Christians there are being massacred in mess And what really
Speaker 8: is so frustrating, Bill is if you're watching television, and
Speaker 8: it doesn't matter matter whether whether it's Fox News, BBC
Speaker 8: or CNN. Like yesterday, I was watching the headline and
Speaker 8: it says gunmen killed thirteen girls or whatever kid not
Speaker 8: thirteen girls. And you know all the reports, you know
Speaker 8: gunmen terrorists, name them.
Speaker 6: By their name.
Speaker 8: These are Islamic terrorists killing the Christians just the same
Speaker 8: way that they are doing in Syria, just the same
Speaker 8: way they are doing an assassinating Christians of Lebanon, except
Speaker 8: in Nigeria right now, they're doing what they did in Sudan.
Speaker 8: Remember in Sudan and Congo and the early between two
Speaker 8: thousand and two thousand and five, five million Christians who
Speaker 8: are slaughtered. Five million. We're not talking about one hundred
Speaker 8: thousand people died in Gaza. Oh my gosh, the Jews
Speaker 8: are committing judicide. We're talking five millions Sudanis and people
Speaker 8: in Congo that were massacred and slaughtered. They're doing the
Speaker 8: same thing in Nigeria right now. Two of the Christians
Speaker 8: is Islamists are trying to literally ethnic cleanse the Christian
Speaker 8: with mass killing, kidnapping and rape. And so this is
Speaker 8: what's happening in Nigeria. What is the Christian world doing
Speaker 8: about it? You know, whatever happened to the professing Christians
Speaker 8: who go to church every Sunday and oh you are
Speaker 8: your brother's keeper, and Jesus said to take care of
Speaker 8: each other. Well, nobody cares about the Christians. All these
Speaker 8: people who are demonstrating for poor Palestine, poor Palestine. They
Speaker 8: care about the Palestinians, who, by the way, would split
Speaker 8: our throat in a second that they get a chance to.
Speaker 8: Yet they're not saying a word about the Christians in
Speaker 8: Nigeria who are being literally slaughtered to death in mass
Speaker 8: That's a problem.
Speaker 4: Well, Bragi Gabor, act Foramerica, dot organ informations out there
Speaker 4: and that's the plan. We got to talk more often
Speaker 4: Brazil Gabriel. You're a great American and thanks for coming
Speaker 4: on the Bill Cunningham Show. Let's keep those lines of
Speaker 4: communication open. You have credibility on this topic. We need
Speaker 4: this information burghit. Thank you very much. God bless you,
Speaker 4: and God bless America. Thank you very much.
Speaker 8: Thank you my being with you, God bless charlete.
Speaker 4: Continue with more, Bill Cunningham, the Great American, live with
Speaker 4: you every Sunday night.
Speaker 1: Hi, Billy Cunningham.
Speaker 4: You know no one speaks more forthrightly about the difficulties
Speaker 4: than bridget To Gabriel coming up later, we have Judd
Speaker 4: Saul in Nigeria talking about what's happening to Christians and
Speaker 4: Catholics there at the hands of Islamic radicals mainly Boka
Speaker 4: Ram and many others that's ignored by the world. I
Speaker 4: can't imagine a clearer case of genocide when a whole
Speaker 4: group of people. There's tens of millions of Christians and
Speaker 4: Catholics in Nigeria that are being slaughtered by Boka a
Speaker 4: Ram and other Islamic groups. And the civil rights groups
Speaker 4: in America, the NAACP, the Black Coalitions, the West in
Speaker 4: Europe talk about the UN, how the UN claims it
Speaker 4: to be something along the lines of climate change is
Speaker 4: causing what's happening to Christians in Nigeria. So that's coming
Speaker 4: up later. Bridget Gabra, I want to thank you very much.
Speaker 4: Coming up next to me Scott Powell who talks about
Speaker 4: the major cities in America and total collapse, including Chicago
Speaker 4: with the rioting they have there and the LoveFest between Mom,
Speaker 4: Donnie and Trump.
Speaker 1: What heck does that mean for the future.
Speaker 4: So let's continue with more if a line becomes available
Speaker 4: eight six six six four seven, seven three three seven.
Speaker 4: Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday. All right, let's continue
Speaker 4: Bill cunning in the Great American. Scott Powell is an author,
Speaker 4: also a thinker. He's like the Thomas Paine of our generation.
Speaker 4: His latest book is to Rediscovering America, number one best
Speaker 4: selling new release on Amazon for a long period of time.
Speaker 4: He's written three books, has over three and fifty public
Speaker 4: articles in Newsmax, The Federalist, USA Today, Barons, New York
Speaker 4: Postschicago Tribune, and Moore and Scott Powell welcome again to
Speaker 4: the Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all, before we
Speaker 4: talk about Thanksgiving coming up in the origins of that,
Speaker 4: I want to just probe your mind about many issues
Speaker 4: about the status of America today, including the fact that
Speaker 4: the Gallup poll, which tends to have a little bit
Speaker 4: of residence in the American people, said that forty percent
Speaker 4: of females between the ages of fifteen to forty four
Speaker 4: years old, So that's a pretty good group of thirty
Speaker 4: thirty year differential between fifteen and forty four years old.
Speaker 4: Forty percent of American women want to leave United States permanently,
Speaker 4: and whenever there's any talk about man on the streets.
Speaker 4: Interview Jay Lennon did a great job years ago, but
Speaker 4: it's done now in many other local including su Waters
Speaker 4: Waters World. I'm amazed at the ignorance of the American
Speaker 4: people in general about our origins, about our rights, about
Speaker 4: how things work. That it's like crowds on demand. I
Speaker 4: had on that guy about four months ago. You can
Speaker 4: go to a website and order a crowd of one
Speaker 4: to three hundred people. They get paid fifty bucks an hour.
Speaker 4: It's four hours, four hour minimum, two hundred dollars a person.
Speaker 1: How many do you need where you need them to be?
Speaker 1: Let's get the signs printed.
Speaker 4: As as a person in an observation of happening in
Speaker 4: America today, are you surprised that so many Americans know
Speaker 4: nothing about our history?
Speaker 6: You really?
Speaker 4: Discovering America addresses that and that forty percent of American
Speaker 4: females at fifteen to forty four years old want to
Speaker 4: leave the United States for Canada, Japan, or Italy.
Speaker 9: What do you think, well, Bill, America has been under
Speaker 9: attack from its origin, but particularly it really accelerated. You
Speaker 9: know in the in the twentieth century. America was born
Speaker 9: out of a virtuous ideal. The ideal was that America
Speaker 9: that the people coming to the new World should live
Speaker 9: with freedom and be able to pursue their lives as
Speaker 9: they saw fit, to be able to worship as they
Speaker 9: saw fit. And as it turns out, it was primarily
Speaker 9: Christians who came to America in the sixteen hundreds into
Speaker 9: the seventeen hundreds, and all thirteen colonies were founded by
Speaker 9: Christian leaders. And in fact, when those colonies became states,
Speaker 9: as they did after the War of Independence, they actually
Speaker 9: had formalized into states, and that's why we get the
Speaker 9: United States. Every single state charter of those thirteen states
Speaker 9: made reference to God and to gratitude for God that
Speaker 9: their state could exist as a standalone state, as a
Speaker 9: state within the United States. They paid tribute to God
Speaker 9: with gratitude. This orientation that we had, you know, has
Speaker 9: been it's been stripped away from us.
Speaker 6: It has.
Speaker 4: And this is a great point that America was founded
Speaker 4: by Christian males and the thirteen colonies, and they proceed,
Speaker 4: whether it was Carolina or New York or Pennsylvania, that
Speaker 4: it was a separate nation by itself. And then the
Speaker 4: fact they would come together years later in seventeen eighty
Speaker 4: seven for the US Constitution was a miracle.
Speaker 1: And it really was a miracle. It shouldn't have happened.
Speaker 4: I mean, the odds of that happening were like non
Speaker 4: existent without means of mass communication, without roads, without bridges.
Speaker 4: Imagines us walking from Ohio through New York City, say
Speaker 4: in the seventeen seventies, it would have been impossible and
Speaker 4: taken months to get there. But these individuals wanted to
Speaker 4: forge a different country based upon the Bill of Rights
Speaker 4: one through ten. And I'm thinking today we've lost it.
Speaker 4: You wrote a great column about two weeks ago telling
Speaker 4: people do not vote from Momdani for New York City
Speaker 4: mayor requires crossing party lines. Now it's a metastasized way
Speaker 4: of Thanksgiving coming up. Mom Donnie, who's the socialist, last Marxist,
Speaker 4: has been elected, along with the new mayor of Seattle,
Speaker 4: and along with many others who have a different view
Speaker 4: about this country at all. The idea that Mam Donnie
Speaker 4: the communist would embrace Christianity and the freedom of individuals
Speaker 4: from government would be in anathema to him and his followers.
Speaker 4: They don't understand where America came from, correct.
Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely not.
Speaker 9: That's right, and so few people do because you know,
Speaker 9: this war against against the virtue in America that's been
Speaker 9: waged you know, has you know, has entered, it's entered
Speaker 9: into the educational system, and so young people are not
Speaker 9: really taught as they used to be about the true
Speaker 9: American history.
Speaker 1: And America is not a perfect nation. No nation is.
Speaker 9: We're all imperfect people. But the main virtue of America,
Speaker 9: and I'll say this very directly, that America is the
Speaker 9: first country in all of human history, and we're talking
Speaker 9: about you know, five thousand years anyway of human history.
Speaker 9: As far as we know, it was the only country
Speaker 9: wherein the people were made to be sovereign, that is
Speaker 9: to say that the people were in charge of their government,
Speaker 9: that the government had to be responsive to the people.
Speaker 9: The government had government's primary responsibility was to protect the
Speaker 9: unalienable God given rights of the citizens. And those unalienable
Speaker 9: God given rights are basically the Bill of Rights, the
Speaker 9: first ten amendments to the Constitution, starting with freedom of speech,
Speaker 9: freedom of assembly, freedom of worship, the right to protect yourself.
Speaker 9: The second Amendment the right you know to have a
Speaker 9: fair and speedy trial. Uh, you know, the prohibition of
Speaker 9: government being able to you know, to to search your
Speaker 9: home without proper cause, and so forth and so on.
Speaker 9: All of those are are very powerful rights to the people,
Speaker 9: and that was the job of the government to protect
Speaker 9: those rights. And what do we see has happened in
Speaker 9: our country. The government no longer protects those rights. The
Speaker 9: government abuses those rights. The government wants to censor, you know,
Speaker 9: cause censorship. You know, the whole COVID, the whole COVID
Speaker 9: fraud was perpetrated on us because the government censored everything.
Speaker 9: So there were there, there were a lot of smart people,
Speaker 9: doctors and so forth, that knew how to treat COVID,
Speaker 9: that it was not the great danger that it was
Speaker 9: made out to be, that the natural immune system of
Speaker 9: people would would cope with it effectively, and that you
Speaker 9: gain i mutiny after you had it in all probability.
Speaker 9: And there and there were treatments ivermectin, hydroxychloroquin These were
Speaker 9: these were long standing treatments that had been in existence
Speaker 9: for sixty or seventy years. And and what happened They
Speaker 9: blocked any knowledge of these treatments so that no people
Speaker 9: people didn't even know that there were these therapeutic treatments available.
Speaker 1: Well, Scott Powell, what happened why and.
Speaker 9: Why did they Why did they do that? Because the
Speaker 9: medical pharmaceutical industrial complex wanted to roll out a huge
Speaker 9: vaccination and the globalists wanted to make this and you know,
Speaker 9: wanted this to be a global phenomena because they wanted
Speaker 9: to thin the population of the world.
Speaker 4: And what happened, Scott Powell, is that government saw an
Speaker 4: opportunity to metastasize covid UH for more control, more money,
Speaker 4: and more availability to the insurance companies who are getting
Speaker 4: all the money from Obamacare. And also they wanted to
Speaker 4: quiet people, to know your role and shut your mouth.
Speaker 4: And this is directly contrary to the founding of our country.
Speaker 4: I want to relate this back to the founding, as
Speaker 4: you've said so artfully, that America is the only country
Speaker 4: in the world, maybe even through today, but certainly in
Speaker 4: the seventeen eighties that said the human being is dominant,
Speaker 4: and that government exists to make sure that person have
Speaker 4: the rights guaranteed by the Bill of Rights, and that
Speaker 4: the King or the Congress is not on top of
Speaker 4: the people. That each American citizen exists under God to
Speaker 4: have a government to unfetter the path he can walk
Speaker 4: to pursue life. Liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That
Speaker 4: government exists to serve the interests of the individual, not
Speaker 4: the other way around. So COVID had government. I can
Speaker 4: recall that the government got a hold of me to
Speaker 4: be the last man standing, to be in some module
Speaker 4: underneath a transmitter in Mason, Ohio. I was the last
Speaker 4: survivor in case there was martial law declared and people
Speaker 4: couldn't move. And COVID turned out to be maybe a
Speaker 4: bad flu. And no one can identify one child who
Speaker 4: was healthy under the age of eighteen who died of COVID.
Speaker 4: Yet there were eighty million school children who couldn't go
Speaker 4: to school, and the unions made sure they stayed out
Speaker 4: of school.
Speaker 1: Not one healthy child died from COVID.
Speaker 4: Acted as if it was the bubonic plague, and it
Speaker 4: was an opportunity by government to seize control of our freedoms,
Speaker 4: and we largely submitted.
Speaker 1: So why did we submit? Why?
Speaker 9: Well, when remember God works through love. God works through unity.
Speaker 9: The devil, the evil one, works through fear. He works
Speaker 9: through putting fear into people. When people are fearful, that's
Speaker 9: a very powerful emotion and it causes people to act irrationally,
Speaker 9: and so fear was part of the game. Well, and
Speaker 9: then you know, you bring disunity. Remember, I mean, COVID
Speaker 9: was a huge source of disunity in America because there
Speaker 9: were people that didn't you know, that didn't a goal,
Speaker 9: didn't want to go along with the government. They didn't
Speaker 9: believe that the government had the answers for COVID. They
Speaker 9: believed that the answers lay in the people and in
Speaker 9: the freedom of the people.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I live in Florida.
Speaker 9: They outlied walking on the beach. There's no better thing
Speaker 9: you could do for your mental health as well as
Speaker 9: your physical health, then walk on the beach and breathe
Speaker 9: fresh air instead of wearing a mask somewhere.
Speaker 4: Well, and I don't want to have it Donald Trump,
Speaker 4: but it certainly went along with it. In March of
Speaker 4: twenty twenty is when it kind of metastasized. I was
Speaker 4: on a golf course in Naples, Florida. I got an
Speaker 4: emergency text to report to the airport. They wanted me
Speaker 4: back in Cincinnati in case martial law was declared, so
Speaker 4: I could get a broadcaster underneath our transmitting tower and
Speaker 4: tell the American people where to report. There was fear,
Speaker 4: and we forgot about the Bill of Rights. We ignored
Speaker 4: the Bill of Rights. Then when Biden got in, he
Speaker 4: monetized it, sent out seven trillion dollars in money, causing
Speaker 4: rampant inflation. And we're still having the effects of that
Speaker 4: with kids incapable of learning. Hell in most freshman classes
Speaker 4: in college today, Scott Powell, you have to have immedial
Speaker 4: classes to teach them eighth grade math. Eighth grade math
Speaker 4: is not mastered by freshmen in college.
Speaker 1: And it's like we continue to have the results of that.
Speaker 4: And I know the next time this transpires, likely the
Speaker 4: same thing will happen. The media will get behind support
Speaker 4: the government. There will be billions trillions of dollars spent
Speaker 4: to solve a problem the immune system can solve.
Speaker 1: This was not the bubonic plague.
Speaker 4: This was a bad case of the flu and or
Speaker 4: a cold, and we treated as if we're all going
Speaker 4: to die, and the government reigned supreme. And I watched
Speaker 4: this now and I can't believe. I can't believe that
Speaker 4: went on, and I can't imagine it happened, and we
Speaker 4: lived through it. And shut your know your roll and
Speaker 4: shut your mouth is what we were told. Get on board,
Speaker 4: otherwise you're a co conspirator. Unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable.
Speaker 9: But you know what, Bill, you've just described why it
Speaker 9: won't be the same the next time, because, uh, you know,
Speaker 9: your work has woken up a lot of people and
Speaker 9: and and there's a larger number of truth telling patriots
Speaker 9: today than there was back then. I mean, our ranks
Speaker 9: have grown and grown because you know, what happened to
Speaker 9: us was really wrong and people have recognized it. And
Speaker 9: now look, so much is coming out about you know
Speaker 9: what the government did, how the government purposelyplied to us
Speaker 9: and blocked censored and critical information right to make rational
Speaker 9: decisions about your life.
Speaker 1: They censored it.
Speaker 9: You couldn't walk on it was was involved in massive
Speaker 9: censorship and Facebook and Google and elsewhere, and.
Speaker 1: So the result was what we got.
Speaker 9: But people now know because because you know, discovery has
Speaker 9: been made and now we have people that are talking
Speaker 9: about it, and there may be prosecutions. I mean, the
Speaker 9: big the big news this week is Telsea Gabbert's strong
Speaker 9: testimony about how not only the early named people like Obama,
Speaker 9: Brennan Clapper, Susan Rice, we're guilty of a conspiracy. Uh,
Speaker 9: you know, really a treasonous conspiracy to stop and dethrone
Speaker 9: Donald Trump, to to nullify the election of twenty sixteen.
Speaker 9: But now the number is much bigger. It's a it's
Speaker 9: a large number of people that were all involved in
Speaker 9: treason against America.
Speaker 4: It did not wait as life person to win. They
Speaker 4: wanted Trump to lose. And the Holy Cabal having been
Speaker 4: told by the intelligence community the first week in December
Speaker 4: of twenty sixteen, there's no there there there's no Russian
Speaker 4: collusion delusions right beginning with Obama. So we got to
Speaker 4: develop one because they're going to discover what we did
Speaker 4: and we better keep them pinned down to make sure
Speaker 4: we don't get in trouble. Now it's all coming out.
Speaker 4: Have about a minute remaining. We got on this tangent,
Speaker 4: which I love doing with you, But Thanksgiving is coming up.
Speaker 4: Can you give us a one minute two minute treaties
Speaker 4: on what Thanksgiving was, how it began, and why we
Speaker 4: should celebrate it about We have about a minute and a
Speaker 4: half remaining.
Speaker 9: Okay, Well, I think Thanksgiving can be thought of as
Speaker 9: the holiday that made the other American holidays possible, you know,
Speaker 9: without the pilgrims having the courage, the absolute faith in
Speaker 9: their cause and their calling, which was a you know,
Speaker 9: and a willingness to sacrifice and risk everything. Remember, they
Speaker 9: were crossing a big, dangerous ocean on an unworthy boat.
Speaker 9: You know, if they had really known that, they never
Speaker 9: would have embarked on that ninety four foot Mayflower, which
Speaker 9: was really a ship of questionable seaworthiness. But the reality
Speaker 9: is it was their faith and determination to find freedom
Speaker 9: of conscience and live according to their Christian beliefs that
Speaker 9: that may you know, there may never have been a
Speaker 9: July fourth if the Pilgrims hadn't hadn't pioneered the way.
Speaker 9: And they really had five accomplishments, So Thanksgivings only one
Speaker 9: of the accomplishments of the Pilgrims that you could say
Speaker 9: that that the first accomplishment was that they went. They
Speaker 9: went to the New World for a spiritual purpose, solely
Speaker 9: for spiritually. They had no interest in gold.
Speaker 1: Or you know, economic things.
Speaker 9: They knew they knew they had to you know, till
Speaker 9: the soil and live, but they really went for spiritual reasons.
Speaker 9: But when they ran into trouble because the Mayflower had
Speaker 9: only half of the so called separatists or the true Pilgrims.
Speaker 9: The other half were a mixture of craftsmen and crew.
Speaker 1: On the ship and so forth.
Speaker 9: And the unbelievers began to mutiny, and the and the
Speaker 9: leaders of the Pilgrims they realized, Hey, we've got to
Speaker 9: keep the skinner because we don't know where we're gonna land.
Speaker 1: We don't know where.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm with Scott Pallam, I'm at the clock. I'm
Speaker 4: at the We're going to have to get you back
Speaker 4: on in the next few days.
Speaker 1: That complete the Pilgrims.
Speaker 4: We got on this COVID thing, which I think was important.
Speaker 4: It ties back to the Constitution of the Bill of Rights.
Speaker 4: Because Scott Powell, once again, I got you all to
Speaker 4: talk about Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: We'll do it again.
Speaker 9: Very Sam ready, Bill you calling me, I stand ready,
Speaker 9: and we'll focus just on Thanksgiving because it's a great story.
Speaker 1: It's a great story. God bless us, God Pale, Thank
Speaker 1: you very much. He's the best.
Speaker 4: Let's continue with more Bill cunning in The Grand American
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Speaker 1: By Billy Cunning in The Grand American.
Speaker 4: We never got around to Thanksgiving, having with Scott Powell
Speaker 4: as to how the holiday began, why it began, how
Speaker 4: special it is, and the fact that America was formed
Speaker 4: by Christians seeking freedom from the despotism in Western Europe.
Speaker 4: I know that's not a popular thing to teach in
Speaker 4: public schools anymore, but no one speaks of this better
Speaker 4: than Scott Powell. So at some point, maybe after Thanksgiving,
Speaker 4: we'll get together with Scott Powell and talk about his
Speaker 4: thoughts on how Thanksgiving began, etc. But I can't get
Speaker 4: out of my mind the idea of what's happening in Nigeria.
Speaker 4: So coming up next, I'm going to put a call
Speaker 4: into Judge Saul. He's got he's a Christian, he's in Nigeria,
Speaker 4: going to talk about what's physically happening in Nigeria, how
Speaker 4: bad it is, and how the world's ignoring a real
Speaker 4: genocide happening in Nigeria in which girls and boys are
Speaker 4: either slaughtered or through into sexual slavery to become incubators
Speaker 4: of the next generation of PoCA. Ram Scott Powell, thank
Speaker 4: you very much. Coming up next is the great Judge
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Speaker 4: And we've heard again about several days ago as a
Speaker 4: practicing in a Roman Catholic that hit me quite hard
Speaker 4: when Roman Catholic priests in Nigeria are being shot in
Speaker 4: the back of the head, that boys and girls in
Speaker 4: their teenage or younger years are being shall we say,
Speaker 4: murdered and are thrown into sexual slavery by the Nigerian
Speaker 4: Boca Haram and other Islamic terror groups, and the Nigerian
Speaker 4: government says essentially not much is going on here, has
Speaker 4: nothing to see. But the BBC, which is right about
Speaker 4: three quarters of the time, said it's really a genocide
Speaker 4: that is taking place. Judge Saul is the executive director
Speaker 4: of Equipping the Prosecuted dot Org executive director. We'll give
Speaker 4: out the website later and Judge Saul, once again, can
Speaker 4: you just give the American people kind of an overview
Speaker 4: of what's been happening in Nigeria the past several years.
Speaker 6: Well, what we're seeing taking place is a real life
Speaker 6: jihad where you have seen a Muslim population that is
Speaker 6: not indigenous to Nigeria that moved in thirty forty years ago,
Speaker 6: really started heavily populating the last twenty years. And they
Speaker 6: have systematically been wiping out Christian communities from the north
Speaker 6: and working their way south. And right now we estimate
Speaker 6: there's over eight hundred Christian communities completely gone, destroyed. All
Speaker 6: the church is destroyed, and this has left three point
Speaker 6: five million Christians without homes that have been displaced from
Speaker 6: their homes in Nigeria. How many three point five million
Speaker 6: Christians have been displaced from their homes and they are
Speaker 6: living in camps in Nigeria as we speak.
Speaker 4: Can you tell the American people about a week ago
Speaker 4: what happened to a Catholic school and tell the American
Speaker 4: people what the Islamic terrorists did.
Speaker 6: Well, terrorists came in, they shot one of the three
Speaker 6: people were killed, and then they abducted fifty fifty children
Speaker 6: from the Catholic school and just upd you just yesterday
Speaker 6: they went to another school and kidnapped another three hundred kids. Uh,
Speaker 6: this is just yesterday. So in the last week, about
Speaker 6: over five hundred people have been kidnapped and we estimate
Speaker 6: that two hundred and fifty been killed.
Speaker 1: Are they one hundred last week?
Speaker 4: Are they one percent Catholic or Christians? That these are
Speaker 4: not other Islamic groups that are killing other Muslims. These
Speaker 4: are Islamic terrorsts specifically targeting for genocide Christians and Catholics
Speaker 4: in Nigeria.
Speaker 1: Is that correct?
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, yes, Just in the last week, ninety percent
Speaker 6: of all those that have been kidnapped and killed or
Speaker 6: Christian ninety percent. The ratio of Christians being killed to
Speaker 6: Muslims is around five to one six to one on average.
Speaker 6: So when they say, well, Muslims are getting killed too,
Speaker 6: they're just they're just they're just fodder. They're they're a
Speaker 6: byproduct of their genocide against Christians. And you don't see
Speaker 6: mosques being destroyed, but what we do see is churches
Speaker 6: being destroyed in every community that these people touch, they
Speaker 6: burn them to the ground and they go after and
Speaker 6: kill the pastors. The priests first talk.
Speaker 4: About what happened to the children, and all of these
Speaker 4: hundreds of thousands of Christian children, what happens to them
Speaker 4: once they're captive?
Speaker 6: Many of them are the girls. Uh, they're turned into
Speaker 6: baby making factories for the terrorists. They they get they
Speaker 6: get pushed up north. They end up being forced marriage
Speaker 6: into terrorists and they they turn them into baby making factories.
Speaker 6: The young men are either tortured, killed, or enslaved. Young
Speaker 6: boys all or are brought up in the system and
Speaker 6: they are essentially enslaved.
Speaker 4: So what this is this massive rape of girls and
Speaker 4: the UH and sexual slavery, which their lives are over
Speaker 4: as we know. Then the boys are either murdered first
Speaker 4: or fourth righter, thrown into some work that they have
Speaker 4: to do until they're dead. That there's they treat them
Speaker 4: like cockroaches. In other words, they treat them like insects.
Speaker 6: Right no, yeah, well yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. This
Speaker 6: is this is radical is one on one. This is
Speaker 6: this is this is how they've operated and conquered country, effort,
Speaker 6: country and territory since its inception. So the thing is
Speaker 6: is what we're seeing is not new as far as
Speaker 6: Islamic history goes, but right now it's playing in real
Speaker 6: life right before our our own eyes right now.
Speaker 4: Not much different than what happened on October the seventh
Speaker 4: and Israel. But it's happening every day in Nigeria and
Speaker 4: it's largely not well covered.
Speaker 1: Correct.
Speaker 6: That is correct, happens every day in Nigeria, and I've
Speaker 6: been dealing with it for the last six years. We've
Speaker 6: been up boots on the ground mission responding to these
Speaker 6: attacks within forty eight hours. We've been trying to help
Speaker 6: the persecuted as much as possible. Uh, but it is
Speaker 6: it is very, very very difficult, and we're finally glad
Speaker 6: people are waking up.
Speaker 4: What does the Nigerian government say, this so called government
Speaker 4: in Nigeria.
Speaker 6: Well, the government, so yeah, the government, the Nigerian government says, well,
Speaker 6: we have a terrorist problem, but it's both Christians and
Speaker 6: Muslims being killed. It's not religiously motivated, which is which
Speaker 6: is a life on the pit of hell. I mean
Speaker 6: they are lying and the Nigerian government is complicit in
Speaker 6: these killings. One of the projects I started so I
Speaker 6: have equipping the Persecuted dot org. That's our really humanitarian
Speaker 6: wing for our mission. But then I started truth Nigeria
Speaker 6: dot Com giving journalists in Nigeria an outlet to document
Speaker 6: what's been going on. So one of the things we've
Speaker 6: done wash in twenty twenty four, people started all over
Speaker 6: Nigeria started trusting us with information and we started putting
Speaker 6: out terror alerts so we would get intelligence on when
Speaker 6: and where attacks were going to occur. We issued over
Speaker 6: one hundred of them since twenty twenty four with ninety
Speaker 6: percent accuracy, and the Nigerian government never did a thing
Speaker 6: with advanced warning because one of the things we do
Speaker 6: when we get terror alerts is we notify the Nigerian government,
Speaker 6: the military, the police, and they never intervened one time
Speaker 6: with advanced warning.
Speaker 4: And to give a little history to the American people,
Speaker 4: in Nigeria is a country of about two hundred and
Speaker 4: twenty million, roughly evenly split between followers of the two religions,
Speaker 4: Muslim and the North, and then where most of attacks
Speaker 4: take place. And this BBC story says there's been at
Speaker 4: least eighteen thousand churches that have been burned, there have
Speaker 4: been several thousand priests and ministers that have been murdered,
Speaker 4: and BBC says as many as one million, which you
Speaker 4: know is a tip of the Iceberg and Nigerian government.
Speaker 4: I assume the leaders of the Nigerian government are all Muslims.
Speaker 1: Is that fair to say?
Speaker 6: Currently you have a Muslim president, Muslim vice president, and
Speaker 6: their head of National Security is also a radical Falani
Speaker 6: Muslim that has ordered his military to stand down as
Speaker 6: Christians are being slaughtered. The cries for help of the
Speaker 6: people that have been attacked and are being attacked are ignored,
Speaker 6: and the Nigerian government tells the military to stand down
Speaker 6: and not protect the Christians.
Speaker 4: I'm reading a story out of the BBC about a
Speaker 4: week ago and it says US President Donald Trump positioned
Speaker 4: a fresh threat to target Nigeria if the government continues
Speaker 4: to allow the killing the Christians. But the BBC has
Speaker 4: found and says that none of some of the data
Speaker 4: relied upon cannot be verified. Well, can you verify the data?
Speaker 4: Because the BBC can't verify the data, can you verify
Speaker 4: the data?
Speaker 1: Jud Saul oh I can.
Speaker 6: I can verify the data and I have verified the data.
Speaker 6: We started Truth Nigeria in twenty twenty three and we
Speaker 6: have sent our reporters to the attack sites to where
Speaker 6: the Christians have been slaughtered, counting the dead bodies, meeting
Speaker 6: the survivors. For the last two years, we have been
Speaker 6: doing well, more than two and a half years. We've
Speaker 6: been doing this so I can verify the data because
Speaker 6: we have the pictures, we have the documentation, we have
Speaker 6: eyewitness reports, and you know, fortunately for truth Nigeria and
Speaker 6: the world now paying attention, our news doesn't get filtered
Speaker 6: through al Jazer, which is what happens to the which
Speaker 6: is what happens in Nigeria news. The Nigerian government writes
Speaker 6: a press release, al Jazer picks up the press release.
Speaker 6: Then CNN and the rest of the associated press, the
Speaker 6: rest of the journalistic world ticks up that article and
Speaker 6: then that is the standard for what the world sees
Speaker 6: going on in Nigeria after it's filtered through al Jazer.
Speaker 4: Jud Saul, what can President Trump do in this Western
Speaker 4: African country of two hundred and twenty million that we
Speaker 4: have little or no relationship with. Foka Orama rose about
Speaker 4: fifteen twenty years ago, beginning by kidnapping all those girls
Speaker 4: from a different school they're different to Muslim sect and
Speaker 4: just made them sex slave. There's one hundred thousand, two
Speaker 4: hundred thousand, five hundred thousand Catholic and Christian girls being
Speaker 4: raped on a daily basis, and it's like, you know,
Speaker 4: it's it should be like it should be like the
Speaker 4: worst thing in the world going on right now. But
Speaker 4: what can President Donald Trump do?
Speaker 6: I think with a proper US intervention and giving the
Speaker 6: Nigerian government an offer it can't refuse to show the
Speaker 6: rest of the world. Do you love your terrorists running
Speaker 6: around your country more or would you rather be a
Speaker 6: country that is the beacon of Africa? Make the choice?
Speaker 6: Does it's the US got involved. We can make Nigeria
Speaker 6: the beacon of Africa and make that country prosperous where
Speaker 6: there's no more killing. But does the Nigerian government leadership
Speaker 6: love its terrorists more than it loves good economics? That
Speaker 6: is the question.
Speaker 4: Well, Judd Saw answered the question. I would think that
Speaker 4: they have to play kate. These Islamic terrorists. How many
Speaker 4: were talking about ten thousand, one hundred thousand, How many
Speaker 4: Islamic terrorists are there in Nigeria any rough estimation.
Speaker 6: And I say anywhere between fifty to one hundred thousand.
Speaker 4: Does not Nigerian military have the power to put them
Speaker 4: down or not?
Speaker 6: Well, they have the power, but they've been infiltrated by
Speaker 6: the Filani radical Islamists, So they have Filani in their ranks.
Speaker 6: They have Filani spread out all over the country. In
Speaker 6: the Nigerian military. They're compromised well, So there needs to
Speaker 6: be a complete purging of terrorists from the Nigerian government. Unfortunately,
Speaker 6: you have terrorists in the Nigerian government. So the question
Speaker 6: is is do they want to be a prosperous nation
Speaker 6: or do they want to be a hellhole like the
Speaker 6: rest of the radical Islamic country.
Speaker 4: Now seventeen of the twenty are just imagine living in
Speaker 4: Afghanistan or Iran, Iraq or Nigeria. There's only three so
Speaker 4: called democratic Muslim dominated countries. The rest are hell holes
Speaker 4: and we ignore that at our own peril because many
Speaker 4: are exporting a terror all over Europe into America. So
Speaker 4: as far as the children themselves, as we speak this
Speaker 4: coming week, there'll be more kidnappings, there'll be more mass rapes,
Speaker 4: there'll be more murders. Yeah, Christian ministers, and this will stop.
Speaker 4: This will stop when they are stopped. They will not
Speaker 4: stop on their own because the government itself is compromised.
Speaker 6: Correct, that is correct, that is and that's what we're
Speaker 6: trying to that's what we're trying to fight. It's what
Speaker 6: we're trying to get the US government to really recognize.
Speaker 6: And you know, just recently, Pete hag Zeth met with
Speaker 6: Nigeria's National Security Advisor, who is a radical Falani Muslim.
Speaker 6: So the US really needs to figure out what's going
Speaker 6: on and come up with for strategy. And it's not
Speaker 6: just Folka harm doing the killing. There's ISO so West Africa,
Speaker 6: and there is a full mobilized radical Islamic Fulani tribe
Speaker 6: that has held bent on turning Nigeria into a Muslim telicate.
Speaker 4: It's also not in this BBC store I'm looking at
Speaker 4: the at least one hundred thousand moderate Muslims have also
Speaker 4: been killed. So the bulk a ram isis types. If
Speaker 4: you don't go with their vision, their view of Christians
Speaker 4: and Catholics being like insects and kill them, then you
Speaker 4: yourself will be murdered for the cast So being Islamic
Speaker 4: doesn't save you in Nigeria unless you play by the
Speaker 4: terms of Boko Haram and other groups.
Speaker 1: Is that correct?
Speaker 6: That is correct, That is correct, And the moderate Muslims
Speaker 6: and the Christians need to get together and say do
Speaker 6: we want our country to go down this road? Because
Speaker 6: here's the thing. If intervention doesn't happen soon, this is
Speaker 6: going to get a lot worse. It's going to get
Speaker 6: a lot bloodier. And not talking just hundreds of thousands
Speaker 6: of lives, but millions will be lost over the next
Speaker 6: five ten years if something isn't done now.
Speaker 4: And the Nigeria has two hundred and twenty million residents,
Speaker 4: probably it's eighty ninety percent Islamic?
Speaker 1: Is that correct? Christians? No, No, explain this to me.
Speaker 6: It used to look it used to be seventy percent Christian.
Speaker 6: Now it's fifty to fifty fifty percent Christians, fifty percent Muslim.
Speaker 6: But the Muslims have dominated the government and have taken
Speaker 6: control of the security apparatus of the country. This has
Speaker 6: just happened within the last ten years.
Speaker 4: What does the UN say, What are the so called
Speaker 4: civil rights groups in America say? What are the women's
Speaker 4: rights groups in America and Western Europe say about what's
Speaker 4: happening to the girls and women in Nigeria? Is there
Speaker 4: is there an outcry like the Epstein case. That the
Speaker 4: Epstein case dominates our media constantly and the victims should
Speaker 4: be taken care of. But those events happened fifteen to
Speaker 4: twenty thirty years ago. What is the reaction of the
Speaker 4: Hillary Clinton types in Western Europe and the UN and
Speaker 4: women's rights groups to all this? Is it silence or
Speaker 4: are they doing something?
Speaker 6: Oh? No, no, total silence. And the UN says that
Speaker 6: the problems in Nigeria are a result of climate change,
Speaker 6: climate change verbatim. Yeah, yeah, they say that all these
Speaker 6: Christians and all this killings happen because of climate change.
Speaker 6: That is the official UN stance.
Speaker 4: What so you're saying that the temperature goes up one
Speaker 4: degree in fifty years, it's explaining the killing of millions
Speaker 4: of Christians and Catholics because the climate change.
Speaker 1: The UN says that, yes, I'm not joking.
Speaker 4: Judd Saula, I don't know what to say because I
Speaker 4: read these stories and I can't imagine the horror that
Speaker 4: these girls and boys go through when Boca Ramp shows
Speaker 4: up in church, are in their schools with AK forty
Speaker 4: seven's and immediately kills the priests. The teachers are murdered,
Speaker 4: immediately the girl. So it's thrown into sexual slavery until
Speaker 4: they're slaughtered and their boys are killed and like the
Speaker 4: UN says it's climate change.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the UN says it's climate change, and they say, well,
Speaker 6: it's complicated. And then the European community says, well, it's
Speaker 6: tribal conflict. It's just tribal conflict. They had nothing. They
Speaker 6: they'll never mentioned radical Islam. They'll never mention that these
Speaker 6: gunmen are shouting a lah who walk bar and praising
Speaker 6: allah as, are slaughtering innocent children and burning people alive. No,
Speaker 6: they won't. They won't say that. Don't just say it's
Speaker 6: tribal conflict, it's band a try. They'll just come up
Speaker 6: with some nebulous excuse to lay cover for what's actually happening.
Speaker 1: How have you been able to survive?
Speaker 4: I would think that maybe the Congressional black hawkash could
Speaker 4: get involved in this event, But how have you been
Speaker 4: able to survive?
Speaker 6: Very carefully, very very carefully. We have a I have
Speaker 6: a dedicated team and the staff of a one hundred
Speaker 6: and fifty Nigerians spread out through several states that are
Speaker 6: rendering aid to the survivors of these attacks. And since
Speaker 6: twenty nineteen, we've been able to help over five hundred
Speaker 6: thousand persecuted Christians and We're continuing to do our work
Speaker 6: and we're trying to do preventative measures. We've been working
Speaker 6: with village security teams, trying to train them on security awareness.
Speaker 6: If an attack comes, how do we save lives. We've
Speaker 6: been working on this for six years and you know
Speaker 6: we need all the help we can get out there
Speaker 6: until the government intervenes.
Speaker 4: Judge Saul, thanks for coming on to Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 4: What is your website?
Speaker 1: Again?
Speaker 4: For those listening locally and around the country, how can
Speaker 4: those of good faith and goodwill help in this and
Speaker 4: the stopping of this genocide? And now this is a
Speaker 4: real genocide happening in Nigeria. What's your What are your websites?
Speaker 6: My website is equipping the Persecuted dot org. That's all
Speaker 6: three words, Equipping the Persecuted dot org. And then I
Speaker 6: ask you to partner with our organization. And then second,
Speaker 6: please add this to your prayer list. Add the plight
Speaker 6: of our persecuted brothers and sisters in Nigeria to your
Speaker 6: prayer list. Pray for them every day, Pray for our ministry,
Speaker 6: Pray for the safety of our people.
Speaker 4: Judge Saul. Saul, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham
Speaker 4: Show and jud. I've done many topics over the years,
Speaker 4: none more important than this, because there's nowhere in the
Speaker 4: world where Christians and Catholics are slaughtering Muslims to the
Speaker 4: tune of hundreds of thousands or millions. It doesn't happen
Speaker 4: the other way around. And what happens in one direction,
Speaker 4: and that's happening with both right now in Nigeria. Judd Saul,
Speaker 4: thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show and jud
Speaker 4: You're a great American.
Speaker 6: Thank you very much, Thank you, sir, God bless you
Speaker 6: got it.
Speaker 4: Let's continue with more. Where's the Pope? Where's the UN
Speaker 4: It's not climate change? Where are the civil rights groups
Speaker 4: in Western Europe and America and in Africa?
Speaker 6: Where are the.
Speaker 4: Let's continue with more. Bill cunning in with you every Sunday,
Speaker 4: Billy Cunningham, the great American Judge Saul. Saul has the
Speaker 4: strength encouraged the report from Nigeria. What is happening with
Speaker 4: the genocide of Catholic girls and Christians all over the country,
Speaker 4: a nation of some two hundred and twenty million. Used
Speaker 4: to be fifty to fifty Now folk are Raman Islamic
Speaker 4: groups are slaughtering Christians and Catholics because of their faith
Speaker 4: largely unexplored by the world, non protective and thank God
Speaker 4: for people.
Speaker 1: Like jud Saul. Let's continue with more.
Speaker 4: Coming up next is all about Charlie Kirk, Bill cunning
Speaker 4: In with you every Son, Bill cunning In, the Great
Speaker 4: American of course, one of the apostles I think of
Speaker 4: the twenty first century. I'll call him the Saint Paul
Speaker 4: the twenty first century. It was Charlie Kirk. To me,
Speaker 4: it's amazing how the left needs to vilify him quickly,
Speaker 4: even more than they've done in the past, to make
Speaker 4: sure his mess not heard. I would note there's a
Speaker 4: couple of stories out recently about colleges that have refused
Speaker 4: Turning Point USA chapters, including the riot that took place
Speaker 4: at Berkeley. So the radical left has to demonize Charlie
Speaker 4: Kirk despite his christian like message, because it is feared
Speaker 4: that if many college kids develop a conservative philosophy about
Speaker 4: God and about family and about America that's so positive
Speaker 4: about our country that they may become shall we say, conservatives,
Speaker 4: form family structures, worship God, and also salute the American flag,
Speaker 4: which are some of the principles of Charlie Kirk during
Speaker 4: his lifetime. I still can't believe Charlie is murdered as
Speaker 4: of September tenth. It was awful. We'll find out how
Speaker 4: the trial takes place later next year. But there's a
Speaker 4: documentary out Captain Kirk. Captain Kirk, a new documentary set
Speaker 4: for release, How a young Leader Charted the way forward
Speaker 4: for the next generation of great Americans. Joining you and
Speaker 4: I now is the creator of that documentary. Joshua Phillips
Speaker 4: and Joshua Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. First of all,
Speaker 4: before we get into the history of what Charlie Kirk did,
Speaker 4: starting about twelve or thirteen years ago, do you find
Speaker 4: it amazing that colleges, which should be arsenals of democracy,
Speaker 4: colleges that should allow the free flow of ideas, especially
Speaker 4: at Berkeley, where free speech supposedly began back about fifty
Speaker 4: years ago, that colleges are barring Turning Point USA chapters
Speaker 4: from forming.
Speaker 1: Do you find that surprising?
Speaker 5: You know, I should find it surprising. Unfortunately I don't,
Speaker 5: because this is the pattern we've seen. I actually just
Speaker 5: spoken at an event in California with Rob Schneider, who
Speaker 5: is you know, one of the main speakers at that
Speaker 5: event in Berkeley to attack.
Speaker 6: They gottacked by Antifa. I will ask a question, though,
Speaker 6: why do college campuses allow Antifa to shut down events
Speaker 6: but they don't allow a Christian conservative organization to operate?
Speaker 5: A good question to ask.
Speaker 4: Well, Rob Schnauder was at that event, and we've had
Speaker 4: on assistant US attorneys who are going to pursue that,
Speaker 4: possibly criminal charges.
Speaker 1: Let's go back to the beginning.
Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk went to college quite briefly and said him
Speaker 4: out of here. Explain the origins of Charlie Kirk when
Speaker 4: he got out of high school.
Speaker 1: A brilliant guy.
Speaker 4: The messages you got to go to college, get that sheepskin,
Speaker 4: you got to do it.
Speaker 1: He briefly went and left.
Speaker 5: Why maybe the same reason that a lot of the
Speaker 5: big successful names tend to follow the same battern. You know,
Speaker 5: I did the same thing. I went to college for
Speaker 5: a couple of years that you know what, I'm not
Speaker 5: really doing anything with it. I'm gonna do something else,
Speaker 5: and the same way with a lot of people like that.
Speaker 6: I think the unfortunate reality is college colleges don't educate.
Speaker 5: People like they used to. And I mean I'm not
Speaker 5: trying to, you know, shoot it down people. I have
Speaker 5: degrees or whatever, but I do think being self educated
Speaker 5: will teach you things that you're not going to be
Speaker 5: taught in college these days. And I think what is
Speaker 5: being recognized is that a lot of kids are being
Speaker 5: sold a bad deal. They go to college, they get
Speaker 5: their degree, they graduate, and they find that they can't
Speaker 5: do a lot with it because they've been miseducated, or
Speaker 5: they've just been taught activism. They've been taught how to
Speaker 5: go in protest, but not how to go and find
Speaker 5: a job.
Speaker 4: So really they're indoctrinated, not educated. And one stack came
Speaker 4: out from the Gallup Pole a few days ago that
Speaker 4: forty percent of young women want to leave America forty percent,
Speaker 4: and so the promises, and most of these women are
Speaker 4: highly educated. When I see protests today, Joshua Phillips, I
Speaker 4: see often bright, a young educated white females that are
Speaker 4: angry at everything and they want to leave the country.
Speaker 1: That's an example of bad education.
Speaker 6: Correct fully agreed. And it's unfortunate too.
Speaker 5: I mean, imagine you have, you know, you raise a daughter,
Speaker 5: bring her up right, she goes to college, you know,
Speaker 5: you pay what fifty thousand a year or whatever it is.
Speaker 5: They come out of it, they can't find a job.
Speaker 5: They hate the country, and they think that totalitarian communism
Speaker 5: or socialism is the answered all their problems. They want
Speaker 5: to bring a system into place that is killed with
Speaker 5: you know what, one hundred million to one hundred sixty
Speaker 5: million people. And I think that's good. But they think
Speaker 5: America is evil. I think that is a result of
Speaker 5: an absolutely failed education, total misrepresentation of history.
Speaker 4: Tasha Phillip, Why did Turning Point USA succeed so greatly?
Speaker 4: I'm going to ask you later, what's the future? When
Speaker 4: the leader dies, often the movement dies. But what made
Speaker 4: Turning Point USA successful during the living years of Charlie Kirk?
Speaker 5: You know, I think what made Turning Points so successful
Speaker 5: is that Charlie Kirk went to the college campuses and
Speaker 5: basically called him out. He was the guy saying, hey,
Speaker 5: the Emperor has no clothes. And then when he said that,
Speaker 5: everybody said, you know what, I saw that too, and
Speaker 5: I didn't want to say it. He was going to
Speaker 5: college campuses, getting on the microphone and saying, hey, whoever
Speaker 5: disagrees with me, most grab the microphone. Let's have a conversation.
Speaker 5: Bring your professors out. I will debate your professors in
Speaker 5: front of you. And he was making absolute fools out
Speaker 5: of them because he was exposed it.
Speaker 4: That's why it succeeded, and it grew from a little
Speaker 4: colonel into into a huge mountain of ideas. When this happened,
Speaker 4: when Charlie was murdered, because of what he was saying,
Speaker 4: almost immediately the memes on YouTube, there were hundreds of thousands,
Speaker 4: generally young, educated white females mocking the murder of a
Speaker 4: father and a husband in an odd way. Did that
Speaker 4: help turning point movement go forward? Or because didn't it
Speaker 4: expose who they are?
Speaker 6: I think it exposed the radicals and I think it
Speaker 6: exposed Let's put it this way, a lot of the
Speaker 6: people who promote socialism do it under the guise of
Speaker 6: moral good. They see, I'm a good person, you're an
Speaker 6: evil person. I'm I'm the one who's right by history,
Speaker 6: and you're you know, you're the one, you know.
Speaker 5: Basically doing the wrong thing. As soon as they come
Speaker 5: out and they support the murder of a man in
Speaker 5: front of his children, you know, being shot of a neck,
Speaker 5: will trying to have an open debate, someone whose only
Speaker 5: crime was to engage in discussion. And they're saying I
Speaker 5: hate freedom of speech so much that if someone disagrees
Speaker 5: with me, I want to see them murdered in front
Speaker 5: of their in front of their children. For somebody to
Speaker 5: be like that show that they lose the moral high ground.
Speaker 5: And when people recognize, oh, you don't. These people don't
Speaker 5: believe in kindness, These people don't believe in honesty, these
Speaker 5: people don't believe in debate, the mask falls off and
Speaker 5: you see them for what they are, and a lot
Speaker 5: of people say, you know what you know? Rather than
Speaker 5: retreating into the shadows, what happened was a lot of
Speaker 5: college could said I'm going to go be just like
Speaker 5: Charlie Kirk. I am Charlie Kirk, and I'm going to
Speaker 5: do exactly what he did.
Speaker 4: What surprised you most in this documentary about it's called
Speaker 4: Captain Kirk. What surprised you about the internal dynamics and
Speaker 4: growth of Turning Point USA.
Speaker 5: Right, So it's called I think Captain Kirk was the
Speaker 5: marketing things, but it's called that truth on Fire, the
Speaker 5: framing of Charlie Kirk. But what surprised me the most
Speaker 5: actually was actually what I really dug into was how
Speaker 5: Charlie Kirk was framed. I wanted to do two things
Speaker 5: with his documentary. One is set right the legacy of
Speaker 5: Charlie Kirk, and two is to expose what led to
Speaker 5: his death. You know, how is he How there's a
Speaker 5: hit piece machine that tries to ruin people's reputations, destroy
Speaker 5: their organization, to destroy their finances, make them too afraid
Speaker 5: to speak out, and ultimately lead to threats of violence,
Speaker 5: which can result in actual violence, which is exactly what
Speaker 5: happened to Charlie Kirk. But also just because I think
Speaker 5: his legacy is being underlined right now, I wanted to
Speaker 5: do something that explains what did he actually stand for?
Speaker 5: Who was Charlie Kirk, What values did he espouse? And
Speaker 5: what effect most importantly, what effect did he have on
Speaker 5: young people?
Speaker 4: Well, I would ask you the question, what values did
Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk is spouse? What was his belief system? Did
Speaker 4: it evolve over the twelve years of his public life?
Speaker 4: What do you say about that?
Speaker 6: You know? My conclusion is this, I don't think we can.
Speaker 5: Replace someone like Charlie Kirk. He was a rare individual
Speaker 5: because he had the ability to bring people together across differences.
Speaker 5: I think for the conservative movement in particular, he was
Speaker 5: a uniting force. He brought together I.
Speaker 6: Mean, honestly, like you look at the Civil War among
Speaker 6: conservatives right now. Charlie Kirk had his pastor speaking, He
Speaker 6: had you know, Candae Owen speaking at events previously. He
Speaker 6: had Tucker Carlton speaking at the recent ones. He brought
Speaker 6: together conservatives who don't agree with each.
Speaker 5: Other, and that is challenging to do. He brought together
Speaker 5: religious denominations that are very different from each other. He
Speaker 5: brought them all together under a single roof and said,
Speaker 5: you know what, put those aside. We know we have
Speaker 5: a country to say. It's basically, we have something we
Speaker 5: need to stand for that has brought than our differences.
Speaker 5: And I think what he focused on instead was the issues.
Speaker 5: He focused on, this is what our kids are being taught,
Speaker 5: this is this is this is the problem.
Speaker 6: In our country that if we don't resolve it, we're
Speaker 6: going to lose our country. He focused on those types
Speaker 6: of things, not all the not all the petty squabbling.
Speaker 6: And I think the effect of Charlie Kirk was visible
Speaker 6: when I when I went to colleges, and.
Speaker 5: I talked to young kids and I said, why are
Speaker 5: you here? What are you doing? And I talked to
Speaker 5: some of the people at turning point chapters. Despite the
Speaker 5: disagreements we're now seeing at the surface, the legacy of
Speaker 5: Charlie Kirk does live on in the youth. And a
Speaker 5: lot of them were deeply inspired to you know, find
Speaker 5: their faith, uh, to become more religious, to to not
Speaker 5: be afraid of speaking out, to talk about their values,
Speaker 5: to not be silenced. I think his legacy will live
Speaker 5: on in the youth.
Speaker 4: Is how how critical was Charlie Kirk in that movement
Speaker 4: to the reelection of Donald Trump in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 5: Well, I think he was honestly so successful that a
Speaker 5: lot of the media establishment wanted to I think without
Speaker 5: Charlie Kirk, Trump would not have won the twenty twenty
Speaker 5: four election. And I think that was recognized. And so
Speaker 5: what had happened was this Charlie Kirk basically got Charlie
Speaker 5: Kirk woke up the youth in America. The college campuses
Speaker 5: have been kind of a hotbed of socialism, going back
Speaker 5: to the Hippie movement. You know, it used to be
Speaker 5: that younger people tend to vote very far left. When
Speaker 5: they get a bit older and start paying taxes, they
Speaker 5: realize those policies don't work so well. And you know,
Speaker 5: Charlie Kirk was really working to change that. A lot
Speaker 5: of young people were starting to realize, you know what,
Speaker 5: the enemy I've been taught is not the real is
Speaker 5: not the real enemy, and you know, some of the
Speaker 5: stuff I'm being taught in school is not the truth.
Speaker 6: Really, they realized they were.
Speaker 5: Being basically miseducated, said false history and said a lot
Speaker 5: of false arguments. Charlie Kirk was going there exposing it,
Speaker 5: and a lot of kids were saying, you know what,
Speaker 5: this is what's really going on, and they started really
Speaker 5: espousing that. What I also saw was that after the
Speaker 5: twenty twenty four election, a lot of the media started
Speaker 5: doing hit pieces on Charlie Kirk. New York Times made
Speaker 5: it like a personal vendebted to destroy Charlie Kirk. A
Speaker 5: lot of the media establishment was pulling all kinds of
Speaker 5: narratives based on just false information, you know, misrepresentation, half
Speaker 5: quotes and so on, trying to framed him as racist
Speaker 5: and bigoted and all these things. Because I think politically
Speaker 5: they recognized they had to destroy him, to destroy what
Speaker 5: he represented.
Speaker 4: Have they done that in the last three or four months.
Speaker 4: Is Charlie Kirk bigger today than he was when he
Speaker 4: was murdered on September the tenth? Is the movement growing?
Speaker 4: Is the movement the same? Is it going to fail?
Speaker 4: Is it a false high? Is it whipped cream and
Speaker 4: not real? If I would have you on Joshua Philippin
Speaker 4: about a year from now, what will you say a
Speaker 4: year from now about the movement?
Speaker 6: I would say the movement?
Speaker 5: Okay. So after Tom Kirk died, he had his memorial
Speaker 5: in Arizona. It was incredible. I mean, anybody who was
Speaker 5: there knows this. They had two stadiums full. Even aside
Speaker 5: from two completely filled stadiums, you had overflow space people
Speaker 5: they had to turn away, like hundreds of thousands. I
Speaker 5: remember walking into the press area and it's kind of
Speaker 5: in the middle of the stadium, and you just saw
Speaker 5: something take place that day that I've never seen. I mean,
Speaker 5: a lot of people said he was a martyr. A
Speaker 5: lot of people said that, you know, maybe in his
Speaker 5: death he was even more powerful than he was in
Speaker 5: his wife because of what he inspired and all the
Speaker 5: people who were there. I think that his legacy is
Speaker 5: now being dragged through the mud because there's a lot
Speaker 5: of people not trying to turn into other debates. They're
Speaker 5: fighting against him, They're fighting against Turning Point. People are
Speaker 5: tearing each other's throats. I think we'll have to see
Speaker 5: what happens with Charlie Kirk's legacy because what I saw
Speaker 5: that day and what also happened as people are trying
Speaker 5: to start up additional Turning Point chapters. I mean tenfold
Speaker 5: increase in requests for him. That was an incredible movement.
Speaker 5: But infighting, people spreading rumors, this kind of things. I
Speaker 5: think that does with tearing it all down and nothing
Speaker 5: will be achieved that that happens.
Speaker 4: Headline out of Colorado quote Colorado professor emeritus calls Turning
Speaker 4: Point USA supporters Nazis, flips off camera after a chapter
Speaker 4: is approved on the campus. Professor's name is David Kozak.
Speaker 4: Ko Zak Kozak, former professor of anthropology at Fort Lewis College,
Speaker 4: was caught on camera calling students their Nazis and flipping
Speaker 4: them off and after the chapter was approved. I've seen
Speaker 4: many examples where students overturning tables defacing You mentioned Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 4: Fort Lewis College in Colorado said that mister Kozak is
Speaker 4: no longer employed.
Speaker 1: By the institution. I guess that's a positive.
Speaker 4: But can you answer quickly the charge of the radical
Speaker 4: left to smear Charlie Kirk that he was a racist
Speaker 4: and a Nazi.
Speaker 1: You hear that constantly. What's your response to that.
Speaker 5: It's a false narrative that has been formed over the
Speaker 5: course of close to a decade, going back to twenty seventeen. Actually,
Speaker 5: my documentary focuses on exposing how those false narratives were
Speaker 5: formed and developed.
Speaker 4: And it's ongoing. The documentary is truth under Fire. And
Speaker 4: you had great success I see with the COVID nineteen
Speaker 4: documentary in twenty twenty some seventy five million views. And
Speaker 4: we'll see what happens. His legacy now is up to
Speaker 4: us to decide. I seldom see positive stories in the
Speaker 4: mainstream media about Charlie Kirker, Erica Kirk. And when they
Speaker 4: had that big memorial service, etc. Was on CNN, not
Speaker 4: on MSNBC. And now here we are a few months later,
Speaker 4: and guess what Nazis and brown shirts and racists or
Speaker 4: filling the air whenever turning point USA. Nothing can be
Speaker 4: further from the truth. The three the three principles of
Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk were God, family, and America. And you don't
Speaker 4: hear much of that on college campuses. Well, God family
Speaker 4: in America. And what is the website to where I
Speaker 4: can direct people towards this for this documentary.
Speaker 5: They can go to EPICTV dot com, e p O
Speaker 5: h TV dot.
Speaker 4: Com, epictv dot com. And once again, Joshua Phillips, you're
Speaker 4: a great American. Thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 4: And I'll get you back on in four or five
Speaker 4: months to see the effect of this. How many views
Speaker 4: there have been. What kind of reaction hasn't been. He's
Speaker 4: being vilified and crucified and and and blasphemed all over
Speaker 4: college campuses. Nothing can be further from the truth. It
Speaker 4: was all about God, family in America. Nothing wrong with
Speaker 4: those principles. Once again, Joshua, thanks for coming on the
Speaker 4: Bill Cunningham Show. And Joshua, you're a great American. Give
Speaker 4: my best to all the people epic and etc. And
Speaker 4: keep doing what you're doing. Thank you, Joshua, appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Thank you God bless you all. Let's continue with more
Speaker 4: Bill cunning In the Great American live with you every
Speaker 4: Sunday night. All right, Billy cunning In the Great American,
Speaker 4: thanks for listening tonight, and I especially want to thank
Speaker 4: Joshua Philip for coming on. And also he's the documentary
Speaker 4: filmmaker put together such a fine documentary on Charlie Kirk. Also,
Speaker 4: we began tonight by talking about the security, the failure
Speaker 4: of security that September tenth afternoon at Utah Valley University,
Speaker 4: and it's sad that the police there, the University Utah
Speaker 4: Valley Police told the security detail that they had the
Speaker 4: roofs covered and obviously they weren't covered. Also, I also
Speaker 4: want to thank a good man who's out there, Judd Saul.
Speaker 4: Nigerian massacre of Christians and girls is happening on a
Speaker 4: bit and seemingly the world doesn't care a whole lot
Speaker 4: about what's happening in Nigeria because the perpetrators are Islamic
Speaker 4: extremists both a RAM and the victims are young girls
Speaker 4: that are that are raped daily by the mobs in
Speaker 4: these camps, and the boys and the priests that are killed.
Speaker 4: It's extremely said extremely and I would hope at some
Speaker 4: point that the Mother of God would save the girls
Speaker 4: in Nigeria and the boys. But I also want to
Speaker 4: thank for Gique Gabriel anyone better than her. I like
Speaker 4: to know who it is when she talks about Islamic extremism.
Speaker 4: And of course today, yes yesterday, Israel had to strike
Speaker 4: asbal leadership again in Lebanon. Full you think it's over,
Speaker 4: maybe it's just going to start again, because they will
Speaker 4: not stop. They will not put down their arms till
Speaker 4: every Jew and every Christian in the world is killed.
Speaker 4: Thanks for listening, and may God bless the girls and
Speaker 4: the boys in Nigeria being killed for their faith and
Speaker 4: their belief in the Christ. Bill Cunning and the Great
Speaker 4: American with you every Sunday night.