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Speaker 2: we welcome you back to a very special Thursday edition

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Speaker 2: of the Bumper to Bumper Program on a rather overcast

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Speaker 2: but bal me relatively speaking, Thursday afternoon here in the

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Speaker 2: Twin Cities of Minneapolis and Saint Paul.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Barero. I host the program every

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Speaker 1: once in a while.

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Speaker 2: Former Ekstein Retch newspaper of the Twin Cities guardsy is

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Speaker 2: I believe in Iowa City.

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Speaker 1: That means Brett Blake Moore is in.

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Speaker 2: That chair and joining us very early in today's show

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Speaker 2: because he's got a very very busy schedule. When you

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Speaker 2: cover a team as vital as the Chicago Bulls, have

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Speaker 2: a lot of extra time for you know, meaningless talk

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Speaker 2: show hosts in the Upper Midwest. But Joe Cowley is

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Speaker 2: going to give us a couple of minutes. Chicago Sun Times,

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Speaker 2: Inkstain Wretch via the Connecticot Water Systems hotline.

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Speaker 1: How are you, sir?

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Speaker 2: Head up? Maybe I annoyed Joe with that introduction, Maybe

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Speaker 2: he was tired of waiting that long. We'll try to

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Speaker 2: get him back in a minute. We got a star

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Speaker 2: studded guest lineup today that will also include a John

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Speaker 2: athletic at the bottom of this hour, and our in

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Speaker 2: studio guest at four point thirty is Andy Lueger. So

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Speaker 2: you will go a section after going toy department through

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Speaker 2: at least the first hour of the program, and then

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Speaker 2: at four o'clock Nico Medved, the basket men's basketball coach

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Speaker 2: at University of Minnesota, fresh off a victory that looked

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Speaker 2: dangerously close to being lost against the Michigan State Spartans

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Speaker 2: last night. He is going to join us. Nico's going

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Speaker 2: to join us at four h two. So I'm very pleased.

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Speaker 2: As I said, with the guest lineup today, bratcheaw On

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Speaker 2: Brian Kafe in text line will be rebooted here very

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Speaker 2: very shortly six four six eighty six. And the question

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Speaker 2: on the table is do you believe in the concept

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Speaker 2: of less is more? Because obviously less means the Minnesota

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Speaker 2: Temberlves did not get the big fish, They did not

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Speaker 2: land the Greek Freak, they did not land Yannis. Had

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Speaker 2: your hope's been built up so much that anything short

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Speaker 2: of that was going to disappoint you? Or were you

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Speaker 2: in the group that said, I'm not sure I want

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Speaker 2: to give up as much as it appears the wolves

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Speaker 2: are going to have to give up in order to

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Speaker 2: acquire him. So that's where we talk about the less

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Speaker 2: part and could less be more.

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Speaker 1: The wolves did get help for the bench.

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Speaker 2: They did get a wing who can shoot and who

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Speaker 2: can defend. Ioda Sounmu is his name, and Joe Kali

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Speaker 2: has been covering him for quite some time. I think

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Speaker 2: we got him back via the Connecticot Water Systems highlight.

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Speaker 1: There we go.

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Speaker 2: I thought maybe you hung up because that was such

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Speaker 2: a long, rambling dissertation.

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Speaker 1: Wow, what's happening? Well, maybe you called.

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Speaker 2: Maybe when you call the next time, if you get him,

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Speaker 2: you pot him up. Maybe there's again something going on

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Speaker 2: with this phone line, although it worked fine yesterday, so

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: What the deal is. Maybe we tend to have a

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Speaker 2: Problems in the afternoon here on the Bumper to Bumper prople,

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Speaker 2: I talked to him five seconds seriously, Yeah, Well, is

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Speaker 2: there another number he can call?

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Speaker 1: Is there another can you call him?

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Speaker 2: Oh? You have been calling him? I guess that's true.

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Speaker 2: Can he call a hotline? Maybe that would be a

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Speaker 2: move that the on the player that the Wolves did get.

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Speaker 2: I said as recently as yesterday, it was essential, regardless

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Speaker 2: last two years. And I think he represents that might

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Speaker 2: there have been at our options. Well, we'll talk to

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Speaker 2: we hope eventually Joe about that, if we ever get

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Speaker 2: At least the Wolves don't have to pay him as

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Speaker 2: It looks like Blake Moore is negotiating with our guest

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Speaker 1: Do we know what's happening exactly? I know you're trying

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Speaker 1: Is that all right? I'm talking to him? Oh okay,

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Speaker 2: That United Center? Perhaps interesting? Well, do you think we're

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Speaker 1: What do you think?

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Speaker 1: It just dropped on me a third day.

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Speaker 2: He did, so he must be well, I guess maybe

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Speaker 2: I'll try, or you can try texting him if you

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Speaker 2: have the number, just say is there any chance he

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Speaker 2: I really would.

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Speaker 1: We love Joe.

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Speaker 2: We've had Joe on this program for a long long time,

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Speaker 2: and the one thing about Joe is he's direct. So

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Speaker 2: he's going to tell us what he has observed in

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Speaker 2: reporting on and covering IO.

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Speaker 1: Do soon move for quite some time? I will mention.

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Speaker 2: Let me see if I can find it here. An

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Speaker 2: interesting observation from one of the other writers. I think

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Speaker 2: his name is Casey Johnson out of Chicago. Here's what

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Speaker 2: he tweeted out earlier today, A word about Io dos

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Speaker 2: soon move. You can tell he's a Chicago kid, wouldn't

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Speaker 2: be denied. Relentless, hardworking, no nonsense pro who loved hard

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Speaker 2: coaching and always looked inward eye. Everything he gets in

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Speaker 2: his career he will have earned. Was a go to,

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Speaker 2: make no have no illusions about that. But I do

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if that means they have second

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Speaker 2: because we've said this all season, the one thing the

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Speaker 1: He was the odd man out.

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Speaker 2: Adante de Vincenzo from a year ago, gets moved into

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Speaker 1: By the Bulls.

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Speaker 2: He was a thirty eighth pick in that draft, and

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Speaker 2: two years he was shooting thirty seven percent and thirty one.

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Speaker 2: So he has improved and by all accounts, he is.

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Speaker 2: My guess is he's going to be a very popular

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Speaker 2: those places I think that does appreciate labor, They appreciate

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Speaker 1: We got him. Oh good, we're gonna So should you

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Speaker 1: want to pot him up? Or should I? Why don't

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Speaker 1: you do it? Why don't you do it?

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Speaker 2: Just in case it has something to do with the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just glad to kind of it after a

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Speaker 1: So whatever, he's good, Yeah, he's good, all right.

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Speaker 2: Joe Colly joining us a long time NBA writer, Bulls Rider,

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Speaker 2: Ink State and Ratch. One of the few left in Chicago,

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Speaker 2: Illinois Chicago Sun Times. So I mentioned that I had

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Speaker 2: reintroduced you earlier, saying the beauty of having you on

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Speaker 2: I'm in the hometown of the new team that the

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Speaker 2: be direct, that's your calling card. So give us the

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Speaker 2: Joe Cally, you know the direct you know, top of

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Speaker 2: the line, letting it all out, scouting report on who

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Speaker 2: the Timberwolves have acquired.

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Speaker 4: I'm just a great dude. I mean, there's I can't

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Speaker 4: Uh is the essence of Chicago basketball. Hear, hard player,

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Speaker 4: you get to ask of a second round pick. And

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Speaker 4: more so, they're getting a good one. They're getting a

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Speaker 4: really good one, good person, really good player. Underrated busters

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Speaker 4: ass I mean it's it's it's a great trade from Minnesota, I.

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Speaker 1: Would assume then.

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Speaker 2: I was saying, you know, Target Center, like a lot

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Speaker 2: Wolves need more than blue collar right now. The Wolves

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Speaker 2: need another scorers, somebody who can make a basket every

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I mean Minnesota's you know, I

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Speaker 4: I think he fits into their model. I mean, he's

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Speaker 4: there's an attraction. He's more of a two way player

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Speaker 4: But no, I think it can help. Because he can't

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Speaker 4: they made out in this trade that you know a

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Speaker 1: Why do you think the Bulls did it?

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Speaker 2: Do you think they just had no intention of resigning him?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just think they you know, they brought they're

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Speaker 4: bringing in all these guards for auditions, and I don't

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Speaker 4: know what the hell the Bulls are doing. You know

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Speaker 4: become a bigger team. Well guess what now they're bill

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Speaker 4: like the lollipop guil. They got smaller. We were told

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Speaker 4: for the next twenty years, everybody's second round pick. So

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Speaker 4: I don't know what exactly they're doing. And I will

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Speaker 4: say this thing isn't done because they have so much

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Speaker 4: cap space. We'll go under the summer and play bully

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Speaker 4: gonna say, Okay, you can't afford Jalen Durham Detroit, We're

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he appreciates that that comparison. So you do

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Speaker 2: believe not maybe full time, but that you know, part

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Speaker 2: time to soon we can run it enough. Even though

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Speaker 1: He does have that in him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I do. I think he's shown it when they

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Speaker 4: need to play the point, when they need him, whatever

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Speaker 4: he is killed a score as Kobe as a Tomboo Garden. No,

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Speaker 4: those talking last time I was on the show, those

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Speaker 4: couldn't come to an agreement, but they definitely wanted one

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Speaker 4: think it's I think I think Timberwolves man and the

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Speaker 4: giving this kid, just because of the makeup. He's a

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: The as you know, they were definitely in the hunt.

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Speaker 2: They were aggressively pursuing Giannis. Eventually, what I've been told

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Speaker 2: at least so far. What's your general view of that

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Speaker 2: just figure all the figure out the rest of it later.

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Speaker 2: How much was too much? I mean, did you think

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think the pursuit was noble, but I

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Speaker 4: like right now if there was something that would knock

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Speaker 4: and other writers and people I talked to you up there,

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Speaker 4: the only way this thing was going to go to

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Speaker 4: death con one was if you came out publicly just

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Speaker 4: trade me, because and then all bets were off and

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Speaker 4: the bucks we're going to do him no favors, and

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Speaker 4: they were going to send him there. That's what I

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Speaker 4: don't think they're serious right now. I think this is

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Speaker 4: where be honest. Is that give teams more of a

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Speaker 2: Last item for Joe College, Chicago Sun Times A lot

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Speaker 1: Uh maybe with one run below in the ladder? Where

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Speaker 1: what where? What plateau do you put the Wolves on?

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Speaker 2: Knowing now that there's nothing else realistic, you know, big

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Speaker 2: and they did make this one move.

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Speaker 1: Where do you put the Wolves?

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Speaker 4: I put them in that second tarer in the West,

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Speaker 4: think that first tier San Antonio and okay, see so

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Speaker 4: I put them right there, kept nudging that thing so

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Speaker 4: right where they want to be. Uh, you know, your

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Speaker 4: your one win the career in carey away in the

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Speaker 4: you know we're up there. A couple of weeks, Scot

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Speaker 4: and the Bulls obviously beat the timber Wolves. That's right,

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Speaker 4: you know, I think it was one of those schedule losses.

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Speaker 4: But no, that's a good team, that's a great coach.

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Speaker 4: So no, I think I think this is a nice

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Speaker 1: Joe, Thanks, Man, I appreciate the time.

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Speaker 2: I know you're tight, your your your your schedule is tight,

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Speaker 2: so thanks for helping us out as always.

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Speaker 4: Man, anytime for you, Dan.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you. Have a good afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Joe Colly is the beat writer for the schaugustun Times

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Speaker 2: There is one aspect of this Wolves deal that should

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Speaker 2: be ignored. The Rob Dillingham big move that I celebrated,

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Speaker 2: the possibility that he could end up being a good player,

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Speaker 2: So I'm not here to say he can never be

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Speaker 2: sort of underscores for me the difference between the Timberwolves

438
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Speaker 2: and the Vikings in that the Vikings put themselves in

439
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 2: position where they had no choice but to sink or

440
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 2: swim on the basis of what JJ McCarthy was ready

441
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Speaker 2: to do. The Wolves did at least have the luxury

442
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 2: to say, we don't have to play them. We want

443
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Speaker 2: to play him, but we don't have to play him,

444
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 2: and we're not going to play.

445
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Speaker 1: Him if he's going to take away our best chance.

446
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 2: To move forward, and that's a really, really big difference.

447
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 2: That's the way I think the best teams do it

448
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 2: where they don't. They may believe in a player, but

449
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,719
Speaker 2: they don't throw a player into the deep end and

450
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 2: let him, you know, struggle. The way that the Vikings

451
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 2: put themselves in a position where they had no choice.

452
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 2: Wolves had a choice, and the choice has been We're

453
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Speaker 2: going to move Anthony Edwards to point and have him

454
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Speaker 2: do more, and they still have a very good record.

455
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Speaker 2: So that's I think has to be part of the

456
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Speaker 2: discussion as we move forward.

457
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Speaker 1: Let's get caught up.

458
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 2: We were a little behind because of the phone issues

459
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Speaker 2: we were having with Joe Kley. Let's get the Johnny

460
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 2: athletic perspective on sort of the where the Wolves stand

461
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 2: right now, trade, let deadline done, what happened, what might

462
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 2: have happened, and really what what this team might be

463
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 2: looking like going forward this year and maybe even beyond

464
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Speaker 2: this year.

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Speaker 1: We'll do that. As I said, we'll.

466
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Speaker 2: Talk college basketball with Nico medved go for going to

467
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Speaker 2: go for a men's basketball coach at four Andy Lueger

468
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Speaker 2: on a section material at four thirty.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned.

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Speaker 6: It's time Tony, Tony Tony, I can do about right now.

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Speaker 2: Bonus Johnny Athletic for the obvious reasons.

472
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Speaker 1: The Wolves do get in under the well.

473
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Speaker 2: It wasn't like they went right to the deadline on

474
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Speaker 2: the deal that they indeed made, but they made one.

475
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Speaker 2: It's not the it's not a whopper of a trade,

476
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 2: but it's a maybe a subtly effective one. And Johnny

477
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Speaker 2: Athletic is joining us via the Connecticot Water Systems hotline

478
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 2: as usual. What have you taken the temperature of Wolves

479
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 2: fans because my assumption originally was people were going to

480
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 2: lose their minds because their their hopes got built up. However,

481
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Speaker 2: I got to add this in the last two or

482
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Speaker 2: three days, I got I'd say, I believe I got

483
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Speaker 2: more texts from people saying don't do it, then do

484
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Speaker 2: it once we got an idea of what the price

485
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Speaker 2: might be. So how do you think Wolves fans are

486
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 2: going to process that? At least for now, at least

487
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Speaker 2: Giannis does not land in Minnesota.

488
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Dan, I.

489
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Speaker 3: Think you're right about how they have absorbed what's happened

490
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 3: over the last few days. Here was what you know.

491
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,120
Speaker 3: I had people within the organization they should even asking

492
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 3: me you know, kind of as this was playing out,

493
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 3: how do you think this will go? And my always

494
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 3: impression was that initially there would be angst because there

495
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 3: would be a big price to pay, and you'd be

496
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Speaker 3: saying goodbye to some players that you really love. But

497
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 3: then Giannis would come in and give you thirty four,

498
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 3: thirteen and nine the first game, and you'd be like, okay,

499
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 3: Like I'm good with this. But I did sense some

500
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 3: nervousness in the Wolves fandom last night, as you know,

501
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 3: kind of all of these rumors were swirling this week,

502
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 3: and just like, man, I don't really want to say

503
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 3: goodbye to the Jade McDaniels and nas Reed and Rudy

504
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 3: Gobert or Julius Randall and Dyllian Am and this and

505
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Speaker 3: that to get a you know, guy who's thirty one

506
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 3: years old and who has had some injuries, and when

507
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 3: has that worked before? And so I do think that

508
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 3: when it became clear that Giannis was not in the

509
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 3: fold for them right now, that generally speaking, there was

510
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 3: a sigh of relief. I think there's plenty of people

511
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 3: that were excited about Giannis and and and really did

512
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 3: want it to happen, but there was a larger than

513
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 3: I expected amount of wolfs. Fans are like, I don't

514
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 3: want to lose Jane McDaniels and Nazrid specifically, and so

515
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 3: I think they're happy with how it turned out today.

516
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you say it well.

517
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 2: I believe if they hadn't done anything to improve the

518
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 2: roster immediately, even with a what you could call a

519
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 2: medium sized move like the one they made, then I

520
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 2: think it could have could have gotten ugly early for

521
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 2: a Rod and Lorid, because it would have been at

522
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 2: least perceived as what they do. All they did was

523
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:47,160
Speaker 2: improve their luxury tax situation and really didn't do anything

524
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Speaker 2: to help at you know, at least by adding one

525
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 2: more piece to the bench.

526
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Speaker 1: Right then, I think it might have been much.

527
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Speaker 3: Uglier, Dan, And I'll tell you during the week as

528
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 3: it unfolded, as the com deal went down, it was

529
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 3: clear right away that that was a salary motivated thing.

530
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Speaker 3: And I don't begrudge them that. I mean, they saved

531
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Speaker 3: twenty million dollars and you know, they gave up a

532
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 3: player who has been playing a lot here but hasn't

533
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 3: been playing well, and you know, lo and behold, it

534
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 3: looks like they're going to get them back, so that

535
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 3: that really worked out slick. But you know, as we

536
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 3: kind of waited for the next shoe to drop, there

537
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 3: were people around the league just saying, hey, you know,

538
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 3: I don't know that these owners are going to spend

539
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 3: the money needed to go out there and supplement this roster.

540
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 3: And then they went and got ioed Assunmu. That was

541
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 3: a big, big move because this is a team, Dan,

542
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 3: I do believe when you look at the landscape of

543
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 3: the Western Conference, when you look at some of their

544
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 3: really good wins that they've had this year, when you

545
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 3: look at their success of the last two years in

546
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 3: the playoffs, they deserved to have investment and to have

547
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 3: the team improved at the deadline and get a real shot.

548
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 3: And they found a guy in Io tossum MoU that

549
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 3: I believe really fits exactly what they needed. And so

550
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 3: even though it's not Yannis, it's also not nothing. It's

551
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 3: a significant upgrade from what they had and that's a

552
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 3: very good first step for their For Mark Laurie and

553
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 3: Alchardriguez's first trade deadline, I think Tim Conney did a

554
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 3: great job with this, and you're right, if they would

555
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 3: have come out of this just dumping salary on a

556
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 3: team that has been looked to be competitive, even if

557
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 3: it's been up and down a little bit, it would

558
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 3: not have been a good look at all.

559
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 2: What do you would you say to Wolves fans who say, Okay, yeah,

560
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 2: I can see it. He's had a good year, He's

561
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 2: improved every year. He's considered, you know, basically a.

562
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: Hard ass Chicago kid man.

563
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 2: You know, you know, it's tough guy town, as Mike

564
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 2: Tys said a long time ago, and that that's how

565
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: he plays, which I think should make him a player

566
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 2: very easy for the the hardcore Wolves fans who show

567
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 2: up especially.

568
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: To root for. But what do you say to those

569
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: who say, yeah, I get it.

570
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 2: But this feels like a little bit of a Constellation

571
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: Prize instead of Kobe White?

572
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: You say what to them?

573
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 3: I will say this, and I said this before the

574
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 3: trade and all the way leading up to it. I

575
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 3: think that Iodassumu is a better player for the Minnesota

576
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 3: Timberwolves than Kobe White would have been. I think Kobe

577
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 3: White is a really good scorer. He has the ability

578
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 3: to go out and get you twenty five or thirty

579
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 3: points on a given night. But Dan, I don't think

580
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 3: they need that kind of a player. Certainly, they need

581
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 3: more scoring on their bench, they do. They need a

582
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 3: guy who can get some buckets. But what they need

583
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 3: is energy, intensity, like some kind of backbone. I think

584
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 3: one of the frustrating things about watching this team this

585
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 3: season has been the amount of times where they just

586
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 3: have come out flat and soft and iodssummu. As we

587
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 3: heard Joe Kalley, who, I mean, how often does he

588
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 3: sing praises like he just did on your airwaves. Not often.

589
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 3: He's a tough you know, not to crack and and so,

590
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 3: but this guy, you you you're gonna see him come

591
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 3: out and play with intensity on a nightly basis and

592
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 3: guards and bring toughness and guards. Yes, he's like he's

593
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 3: another Dante DiVincenzo, who has been so important for this

594
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 3: team because you need attitude, like you need someone who's

595
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 3: gonna fight a little bit, and and I think that

596
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 3: he's one of those guys that is going to bring

597
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,959
Speaker 3: that on a night in a night out basis on

598
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 3: both ends of the floor. And that's why I think

599
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 3: I would rather have Io just soon more than Kobe White.

600
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Speaker 2: The you know, a lot of what I believe from

601
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 2: people I trust is he is a guy who can

602
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 2: play both on and off the ball. Not a natural

603
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: point guard by any means, not a guy you want

604
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 2: to turn over the offense to forever. Now Collie thinks

605
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 2: for stretches, though he can do that. He can initiate

606
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 2: uh and and and run the offense.

607
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: But I don't know.

608
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: I mean you look at because I mean there's a

609
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: part of me that says, well, would we be better

610
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,479
Speaker 2: off with a as a backup, a purer point guard?

611
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 2: Given that the assumption is even though Mike Conley apparently

612
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 2: is coming back, I'm assuming his minutes are gonna go

613
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: down even more at this point.

614
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: What's more important?

615
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 2: Was it to get somebody who could run the show

616
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 2: or somebody who literally could give them another scorer off

617
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 2: the bench, given that, you know, beyond nas Reed, it's

618
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 2: been very up and down for several other players.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Dan, I'm of the mind that I really think

620
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 3: they needed more scoring punch, more more pop off the bench,

621
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Speaker 3: because not for two reasons. One is what you have

622
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 3: seen when this team gets someone other than just not

623
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 3: scoring like bone Piland, when he has a good scoring

624
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 3: night like you did last night in Toronto. I was

625
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 3: there for that game, they're really successful. They beat a

626
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 3: really good Toronto team on the road for the first

627
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 3: time in twenty two years. In Toronto. They won the

628
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 3: in large part because they got a good scoring night

629
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 3: from bones Hiland to balance Anthony Edwards and everything else.

630
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 3: If you want to say, yeah, I want my peer

631
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 3: point guard, I want to go look for it and

632
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 3: we need one of those, I would say, who are

633
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 3: you gonna get? It's just not out there, like is

634
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 3: it Trey Jones maybe? Is it Tias Jones maybe, but

635
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 3: he's hasn't been effective lately. That those guys are gone Dan,

636
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 3: and so I think that one push comes to shove.

637
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 3: As we saw in Toronto last night, the point guard

638
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 3: of this team is Anthony Edwards. And so even if

639
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 3: you went out and got a classic point guard, he

640
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 3: does not have the ball in his hands in important moments.

641
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 3: Assuu is going to be able to do some of

642
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 3: that in the middle of the game and then he

643
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 3: can come in and gives you some versatility if you

644
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 3: need it. But I just think that you what this

645
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 3: team needed was impact. This team needed, you know, something

646
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 3: that was going to someone that was going to come

647
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 3: in and play and disu Lou That guy and if

648
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 3: they would have targeted a classic point guard, I don't

649
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 3: know who they could have gotten who would have been

650
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 3: anywhere close to the caliber player that I would assume

651
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 3: with Ye, now.

652
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: I'll throw out one name to you.

653
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: I don't think he fits offensively, because they absolutely needed

654
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: some more scoring than I think this player represents. But

655
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: Alvarado ends up going, I think, from the Pelicans to

656
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 2: the Knicks. But the Knicks are looking for he represents.

657
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: I love his activity and I love the way he

658
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,719
Speaker 2: can play. Would he have fit as well? Do you

659
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 2: think if he was gettable, how would you compare him

660
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 2: to the guy they got?

661
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 4: Yeah?

662
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 3: I think like I think he was another guy that

663
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 3: was sort of on their radar. I will say, but

664
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: when you look at the difference Dan Alvarado, I just

665
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 3: brought his stats up. He's six feet tall, one hundred

666
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 3: and eighty.

667
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 2: Pounds, and.

668
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 3: He's a big duke, and he had the six to

669
00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 3: ten wingspan, and we saw what happened in this day

670
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 3: and age to smaller guards. Now Alvarado's He's had a

671
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 3: good career. But you look at his numbers too. He's

672
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 3: forty two percent from the field, thirty six percent from

673
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 3: three I mean the son MoU is fifty percent from

674
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 3: the field, forty five percent from three. I mean, he's

675
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 3: and and he averages twice as many points per game

676
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 3: as Elbertto. He's just a He's a much much better

677
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 3: player overall. Albarado is a really nice spark plug for sure,

678
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 3: but there is a little bit more gimmick to his game,

679
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 3: whereas Dissun MoU is a big, strong, nasty dude that

680
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 3: is going to fit in with the physicality that this

681
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 3: team wants to play with and kind of the intensity

682
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 3: in the attitude, and so I just think that there's

683
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 3: no comparison between the two. To be honest with you.

684
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: Is this we we know he's on an expiring contract.

685
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: Is the soon MoU?

686
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 2: So is this basically an audition or do you think,

687
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: especially given as I understand that the advantages the Wolves

688
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 2: would have in recent signing him, that it's fairly certain

689
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 2: that this move is made with the intention of bringing

690
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: him back on a new deal as well.

691
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've talked to people about that already, and there

692
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 3: absolutely is a desire to have a longer term commitment

693
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 3: than just the next couple of months here with iodisun

694
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 3: move one of the great things about making the deal

695
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 3: right now is they have his bird rights going forward,

696
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 3: which means they can go over the salary cap to

697
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 3: sign him to a new deal, and that gives them

698
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 3: a little bit more flexibility and how they kind of

699
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 3: can can structure things. And so it depends of course

700
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,720
Speaker 3: on price tag and what else happens during this season

701
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 3: and how he plays here. Of course they want to

702
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 3: evaluate that, but they are bringing him in with the

703
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 3: full expectation that, provided everything goes well, that they want

704
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 3: to keep him around for a long time. And he's

705
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 3: twenty six years old. He fits into the timeline of

706
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 3: Edwards McDaniel's like everyone else here, and so the Timberwolf

707
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 3: made this trade not only for the present, but also

708
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 3: for the future if possible.

709
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: You I think have reported this pretty consistently, and it's

710
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 2: certainly what I've been told by people I trust that

711
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 2: it never really got close with the Bucks, not because

712
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 2: the Wolves were not inclined or interested, but because the

713
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 2: Bucks never seemed to be all that ready or all

714
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 2: that serious about getting this thing done.

715
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: Is that how you view it?

716
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly how I argue with Dan. You know,

717
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 3: it was really interesting over the last week there was

718
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 3: so much excitement, so many rumors swirling, so much discussion

719
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 3: about the Timberwold being incredibly aggressive, maybe even being the

720
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 3: front runners here or there to land on the side

721
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 3: of the Koupo. And the whole time, the people that

722
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 3: I'm trusting within the organization that I'm talking to were

723
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 3: certainly of the mind that, yes, we are, you know,

724
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 3: we are trying to position ourselves to be ready if

725
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 3: the Bucks give us the green light to try and

726
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 3: find a deal. I think Tim connolly was really pouring

727
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 3: over the market and looking at all sorts of different

728
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 3: scenarios to move players here and players there and get

729
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 3: picks back and do things to make some sort of

730
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 3: palatable package for the Milwaukee.

731
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 4: Bucks to accept.

732
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 3: But they never really had any discussions with Milwaukee that

733
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 3: elevated beyond to real deal making types of conversations, and

734
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 3: so there was always a skepticism was internally about are

735
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 3: these guys for real or are they just kind of

736
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 3: dipping their toe in the water to gauge the market.

737
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 3: And so they were absolutely ready to try to execute something,

738
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 3: but it never got even close to getting that far

739
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,720
Speaker 3: down the road. Milwaukee. You never really engage them that way.

740
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: By the way, did we I don't know if you

741
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 2: and I talked about this. Do you think the Wolves

742
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 2: ever were tempted to explore the Ja Morant situation on

743
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: the basis of you might be able to steal him,

744
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 2: that yeah, it's dangerous, but you probably aren't gonna have

745
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 2: to give up what once upon a time would have

746
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 2: been demanded. Is was that ever part of the wolves

747
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 2: conversation as far as you.

748
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 3: Know, you know, I for my impression with Jah Morant

749
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 3: and the Timberwolves always was they just had some concerns

750
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 3: about the fit with Ant and about what they had

751
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 3: seen from job physically over the last couple of years,

752
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 3: and some kind of concerns maybe that he's declining, you know,

753
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 3: with all of the injuries that he's gone through, and

754
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 3: so even in the last couple of days, as maybe

755
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 3: there was starting to be some indications that Memphis was

756
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 3: coming off a relatively high asking price for Ja Morant.

757
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 3: I don't think that the Wolves ever really seriously kind

758
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 3: of refocused on Morant. I think that they were really

759
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 3: all in on Giannisan and Kumpo, and then looking at

760
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 3: their plan B was always someone like disson Move, someone

761
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 3: like Quinton Grimes, in Philadelphia, so he has something like

762
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 3: that rather than pivoting away to a James Harden, to

763
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 3: a John Morant, to a LaMelo Ball type of a situation.

764
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 3: I don't think if that that ever really became a

765
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 3: real scenario for them.

766
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 7: What's the lesson on Billingham, You know, it's I'm going

767
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 7: to be very very interested to see if he is

768
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 7: able to get on track in Chicago, because it is

769
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 7: true that the circumstances changed dramatically for him after he

770
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 7: was drafted here.

771
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 3: They made the Karl Anthony Challenge trade, they brought into Vincenzo.

772
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 3: There's all of a sudden, not a lot of minutes,

773
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 3: and he came to a team that was ready to

774
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 3: contend right away, and he was needed to be on

775
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 3: the Washington Wizards. He needed to be on the Chicago

776
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 3: Bulls where he could just go out there, make a

777
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 3: bunch of mistakes, play through it, and see if he

778
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 3: could find his way. He lost confidence here, and I

779
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 3: just don't think that Chris Finch ever really gave him

780
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 3: that belief because rightfully so, in farness to Finch, he

781
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 3: was really struggled from a shot making standpoint and from

782
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 3: a turnover standpoint, and so he never really got continuous

783
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 3: run though here and the Wolf just couldn't felt like

784
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 3: they couldn't afford to do that and to give him

785
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 3: a real opportunity so he'd I don't think it's a

786
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 3: it's an indictment necessarily on Rob Dillingham. I think that

787
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 3: he needs to be somewhere and just play a lot

788
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 3: and then we'll make a decision, because there's a scenario

789
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 3: where he goes and plays for a couple of years

790
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 3: somewhere and becomes a rotation piece and becomes a confident scorer.

791
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 3: But just it was never going to happen here with

792
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 3: all of the pressures to win, with Finch's kind of

793
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 3: predilection toward veterans, it just was a bad mix.

794
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 2: Well, again, some of this is a compliment because this

795
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 2: is the first time in the history organization where you

796
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 2: had something to lose, right, I mean how many times

797
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 2: you sa, yeah, just.

798
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: Throw them out there.

799
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: What the hell's the difference? You just throw them out

800
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 2: there and he can learn. And so we can argue

801
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 2: about whether they should have done a better job of

802
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 2: giving him more of a chance or have been more patient.

803
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 2: But that's the reality is that when you have a

804
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 2: good team, it's harder to throw somebody out there, which,

805
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 2: as I mentioned earlier, kind of exactly what the Vikings

806
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 2: did with JJ McCarthy and the Wolves at least had options.

807
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 2: The Vikings put themselves. They box themselves into a corner

808
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 2: where they didn't really have a choice.

809
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 3: That's right. It's a great point, Dan, because Chris Finch

810
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 3: in many ways was validated, especially last year by putting

811
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 3: rock Ullingham and Ice. Because that's true, they made it

812
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 3: to the conference finals. I mean, they are thirty two

813
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 3: and twenty right now. I know they've been a little

814
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 3: up and down, but they're one game out of the

815
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 3: three seed, and so they are winning games here. With

816
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 3: the way that Finch has done it, I do think

817
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 3: that there is room for a discussion about could he

818
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 3: be better at giving the Dillinghams, the Leonard Millers of

819
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 3: the world at least some run now and again on

820
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 3: a second night of a back to back on you know,

821
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 3: a game like in Memphis the other night where they

822
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 3: were clearly dead legged and couldn't move around, would you

823
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 3: throw Dillingham out there? And I think that sometimes he's

824
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 3: slow to adapt that way.

825
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 4: I agree to your point.

826
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 3: They are in this to win this right now, like

827
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 3: there's not a lot of messing around to be done,

828
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 3: and you know, this is a new day now. You

829
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 3: do have possibilities of Jannisana da Kounmpo wanting to come

830
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 3: to play with Anthony Edwards and the Timberwolves trying to

831
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 3: get to a point where they're making the finals. That's

832
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 3: what they're looking at. And this is an entirely different

833
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 3: atmosphere than what we have known of this organization for

834
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 3: most of its life.

835
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 2: Is anybody else coming? We have open roster spots still,

836
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 2: don't we what?

837
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 3: What do we?

838
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 1: Guys?

839
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 4: Go two?

840
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: Definitely coming back Mike Yep.

841
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 3: They have two open roster spots. I expect Mike Conley

842
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 3: to take one of them. They could technically leave the

843
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 3: other one open. But I do think that there are

844
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 3: going to be some names on the biout market that

845
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 3: are going to be of interest. Cam Thomas got waived today.

846
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 3: You know, I'm looking at guys like DeMar de Rosen.

847
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 3: You're looking at guys you know a bunch of other

848
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 3: veterans that are going to hit the the buyout market

849
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 3: and may be worth considering. I do think the Wolves

850
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 3: will consider adding another piece on the bio market not guaranteed,

851
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 3: but yes, I would expect one of those pieces coming uh,

852
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 3: one of those empty seats to be Mike Conley's, and

853
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 3: we'll see what kind of role he has when he returns,

854
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 3: because I think a lot of those minutes that he

855
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 3: was getting have to go to iod.

856
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: Assuming right now, last item you were in Toronto for

857
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 2: the Wolves comeback. I want to make one quick Anthony

858
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 2: Edwards point and we can maybe expand on it when

859
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 2: we have more time next time we have Yon. What's

860
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: struck me last night that is encouraging in a huge

861
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: way about Anthony down the stretch wasn't simply that he

862
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 2: scored as effectively as he did, but the variety of

863
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 2: ways in which he scored it.

864
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: I feel like last year.

865
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 2: He could get gone, but it would be that same

866
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 2: wing shot, just sort of backing up.

867
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: And hitting it and just getting hot.

868
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: Where we saw fadeaways, we saw turnarounds, we saw drives

869
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 2: to the basket. To me, if you talk about where

870
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 2: he's gotten better and where he could become absolutely a

871
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 2: top five player if he's not there yet, it's that

872
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,439
Speaker 2: variety that he's now showing to his offensive game.

873
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Speaker 1: Your thoughts, Yeah, one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: Dann two quick thoughts on it. First of all, we

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Speaker 3: talked to Anthony Edwards about that after the game, and

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Speaker 3: one thing he did say was one big focus for

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Speaker 3: him this summer was to get to a point where

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Speaker 3: he could get to his spot.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 3: And he knows that if I get to that spot,

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Speaker 3: I'm comfortable and I'm going to knock down that shot.

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Speaker 3: And right now that spot looks to be the elbow.

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Speaker 3: He got there a couple of times, one for a

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Speaker 3: pull up jumper, one for a turnaround jumper. But you're right,

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Speaker 3: then he goes to the basket so many times. Last

886
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 3: season especially was so frustrating was it was dribble, dribble, dribble,

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00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 3: step back exactly, and that was very predictable. And now

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00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 3: he is unpredictable, and that you can see in the

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Speaker 3: eyes of the defender a helplessness. They don't know what

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Speaker 3: to do with him now because he's gonna throw anything

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Speaker 3: that he has at them, and he's more athletic than them,

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Speaker 3: and he can get to those spots and he can

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Speaker 3: elevate and get clean looks and he makes them all Dan.

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Speaker 3: It's sixty four percent field goal percentage in the clutch

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Speaker 3: right now, that's miles ahead of everyone else. But finally

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Speaker 3: on this the reason that it was important for the

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Speaker 3: Wolves to look at Giannisan and Akoopo and then for

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Speaker 3: the Wolves to get Io Desummu is because Anthony Edwards

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Speaker 3: is here and he's ready to win now, and he's

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Speaker 3: and he's entering the MVP conversation. And when you have

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Speaker 3: a player like that, it is incumbent upon you to

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Speaker 3: put the best team around him that they can. And

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Speaker 3: that's what they're doing. They're trying to go for it

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Speaker 3: right now. They're not waiting until he's twenty six or

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Speaker 3: twenty seven. They see what the leaps that he's made

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Speaker 3: and it's pretty exciting to watch.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate the extra time. My friend will be in touch.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, all right, Thanks Dan, appreciate it. That is bonus.

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Speaker 2: Johnny Athletic brought to you by RBC Wealth Management. We

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Speaker 2: always appreciate their fine support and I know he does too,

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Speaker 2: and we thank Johnny for the extra time. How about

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Speaker 2: college basketball, Yeah, it's okay to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: A terrific win.

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Speaker 2: The last night for the goal to go for men's

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Speaker 2: basketball team, they held on man.

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Speaker 1: It was very nerve wracking down the stretch.

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Speaker 2: The man who was there coaching Nico medved University of Minnesota,

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Speaker 2: is going to join US next state.

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