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Speaker 1: Two thirty eight in the Queens City of Cincinnati, chicklod Wig,

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Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW. This is Sports Talk Shoeless. Joe Waddell

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Speaker 1: is today's producer. We are going all the way to

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Speaker 1: six o'clock and that's when Sterling takes over these airwaves.

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Speaker 1: Prediction my prediction the Cincinnati Reds will win the National

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Speaker 1: League Central Division. But more on that in a couple

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Speaker 1: of minutes. In a game you heard right here on

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Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW, the UC Bearcats were blown out at

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Speaker 1: Houston seventy six to fifty four. Is the number ten

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Speaker 1: ranked Cougars dominated from start to finish, their fourteenth consecutive

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Speaker 1: victory over the UC Bearcats. The Cougar's improved to nineteen

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Speaker 1: and two overall in seven to one in the Big Twelve,

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Speaker 1: and it was yet another embarrassing loss by the Bearcats.

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Speaker 1: Went on Fox National TV as UC dropped to eleven

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Speaker 1: and eleven and three and six in the Big twelve,

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Speaker 1: and you had to wonder if the Bearcats were even

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Speaker 1: awake for the noon start in Houston. The Cougars are

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Speaker 1: a complete team. To say the Bearcats are an incomplete

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Speaker 1: team is an understatement. One of the turning points in

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Speaker 1: this game came with just over three minutes to go

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Speaker 1: in the first half when Mustapha cham exited with a

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Speaker 1: right foot and ankle injury and never returned. He did

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Speaker 1: return to the bench in a walking boot, so without

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Speaker 1: Chom inside, the Bearcats just had no chance. Question for

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Speaker 1: UC fans, are you even paying attention to.

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Speaker 2: This team anymore?

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Speaker 1: The only way they make the NCAA Tournament is to

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Speaker 1: win the Big twelve Conference tournament, and well, let's face it,

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Speaker 1: that ain't happening. I've got my coffee, I've got my computer.

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Speaker 1: All I need is you at five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 1: seven thousand and one, eight hundred, the Big One. And

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Speaker 1: now for the Cincinnati Reds. My pole question on Twitter

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Speaker 1: cs where will the Cincinnati Reds finish in the NL

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Speaker 1: Central Division race in twenty twenty six? Currently ten point

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Speaker 1: three percent say first place, twenty six point two percent

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Speaker 1: say second place, forty two point one percent say third place.

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Speaker 1: And I've only got room for one more area, and

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Speaker 1: that's fourth or fifth place, and that's twenty one point

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Speaker 1: five percent.

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Speaker 2: What say you?

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Speaker 1: I'm already tired, weary of the Debbie downers, the negative

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Speaker 1: nancies and the sur puss Sally's thinking the Reds have

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Speaker 1: zero chan is a small market team.

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Speaker 2: If that's the.

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Speaker 1: Case, why even play one hundred and sixty two games.

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Speaker 1: The Reds have a great pitching staff. I love it,

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Speaker 1: and I believe they have enough hitting to win this division.

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Speaker 1: Future Hall of Fame manager Tito Francona in his second

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Speaker 1: year with the Reds. I believe he has a much

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Speaker 1: better feel for the young, restless, and hungry Reds. They

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Speaker 1: got a taste of it last year, reaching the playoffs

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Speaker 1: with a late season surge and taking advantage of the

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Speaker 1: New York Mets collapse. That's got to count for something.

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Speaker 1: They're hungry this year. They got a taste of it,

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Speaker 1: and they want more. My prediction first place, I appreciate

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Speaker 1: all the loyal listeners of seven hundred WLW, and we'll

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Speaker 1: take your calls at five won, three, seven four nine,

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Speaker 1: seven thousand, one, eight hundred. The Big one pitchers and

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Speaker 1: catchers first workout Wednesday, February eleventh, right around the corner

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Speaker 1: and opening day against the Boston Red Sox, who the

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Speaker 1: Reds defeated in the nineteen seventy five World Series four

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Speaker 1: games to three. Opening day with the Red Sox Thursday

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Speaker 1: March twenty six, four to ten pm. First pitch, let's

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Speaker 1: get fired up right here on seven hundred WLW. We

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Speaker 1: got a monster show three and a half hours. Sterling

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Speaker 1: takes over these airwaves at six until then it is

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Speaker 1: me and it is you, and we're starting with Andy

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Speaker 1: infinny Town.

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Speaker 2: Andy, bring it brother?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, why are we playing like ten guys in a rotation?

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Speaker 3: Win seven to eight would be the max?

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Speaker 2: That's the question.

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Speaker 1: Well, they were down a couple of guys coming in,

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Speaker 1: including Shauna Bayu, and then.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, see I get that.

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Speaker 3: But they played so well with seven guys the last game,

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Speaker 3: and then we come out, we score what will we

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Speaker 4: Sixty?

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Speaker 2: Hey, hey they broke fifty today. How about that?

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Speaker 3: We're playing We're I feel like we're playing too many guys.

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Speaker 5: I get it.

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Speaker 3: Early in the season, you're playing a lot of guys.

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Speaker 3: You want to see where you're at. But let's get

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Speaker 3: down to an eight man rotation at this point in

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Speaker 1: You know what's incredible about this game? The Bearcats turned

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Speaker 1: those turnovers to just two for the Bearcats. It just bore.

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Speaker 3: Ye yep, I agree.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they come back on Thursday night against West Virginia

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Speaker 1: and then UCF comes to town.

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Speaker 2: U CEF a very very good team.

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Speaker 3: So it is just a yeah, that's that's two wins

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Speaker 3: in a row for russ though.

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Speaker 6: Uh, I like what seven I think or so.

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Speaker 3: To get in the end of the tournament, right, seven

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Speaker 2: Hey, it's it's a struggle.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 1: What blows me away about Wes Miller's postgame comments and

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Speaker 1: yeah he's uh praising and rightfully so Keyshawn Tillery, who

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Speaker 2: He said, this guy is the opportunity or.

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Speaker 1: The ability to play in final fours with who that

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Speaker 1: just that, just that just blew me away. Okay, praise

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Speaker 1: the kid for a career high fourteen points. He's a

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Speaker 1: very talented player. He's seeing more action. That's awesome. But

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Speaker 1: blew my mind?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, final course he should play in maybe thirty two's

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Speaker 1: You know, if he's gonna play in the final four,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be with Duke or North Carolina or maybe

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: They yeah, yeah, they do have a chance, but it's

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Speaker 3: uh maybe uh next year. Hey, if Sean and Bio

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Speaker 1: Every every roster, huge huge turnover. And who knows what

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Speaker 1: is going to happen with west Miller after this season.

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Speaker 1: This is yeah, it's a disaster. All right, thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: All right, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: You too.

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Speaker 1: Hey, we've got Andy and Beachmont Andy. What's going on?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 8: I mean you guys talking about Wes Miller there. I

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Speaker 8: mean you listened to radio guys. I mean I listened

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Speaker 8: I mean I'm on there all the time. I mean

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Speaker 5: Kind of the They're nice about it.

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Speaker 8: They really don't let uh don't give Wess any any

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Speaker 8: grace and that rightfully. So, I mean you hear about

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Speaker 8: not even the head coach, not even the assistant coach.

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Speaker 8: And this it wasn't tonight, but they're not even coming

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Speaker 8: over talking to the guy telling them Hey, you gotta

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Speaker 8: you can't do this in this situation. You got to

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Speaker 8: play better, you gotta be smarter. There's none of that.

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Speaker 8: They seem very uncoached, not well coached at all. They

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Speaker 8: don't finish games, and that's that's a big problem obviously

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Speaker 8: in the NCAA and the Big twelve and we're playing

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Speaker 8: big boy basketball. This ain't the American We need to

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Speaker 8: play like we're a top team in the top conference,

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Speaker 8: not some group of five team that might sneak into

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Speaker 8: the tournament. Play a few good games, and now that's

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Speaker 8: great for us. Now we're a Big twelve team. The

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Speaker 8: goal needs to be getting to the national championship Houston.

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Speaker 8: If Houston's able to do it, why can't we do it?

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Speaker 8: And I mean, I know the answer. It's because Wes

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Speaker 8: Miller's here.

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Speaker 5: It's to be honest.

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Speaker 1: During this game and you know, listening to it, Dan

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Speaker 1: Hord and Terry Nelson, Boba Miller only scored two points

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Speaker 1: in this game, and yes he had a team high

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Speaker 1: eight rebounds, but there was a point in this game

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Speaker 1: is looking for someone to pass it to, and four

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Speaker 1: other UC Bearcats on the court were not moving. What

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Speaker 1: does that tell you?

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Speaker 8: This is that I mean, Terry even said it, you

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Speaker 8: got a major in the minor. I mean, that's gonna

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Speaker 8: stick with me for the longest time when I started

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Speaker 8: coaching my kids in basketball. So I'm gonna tell him.

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Speaker 8: I remember Terry, he used to coach my ref me.

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Speaker 6: And AAU games.

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Speaker 8: I mean, the man knows basketball. I wouldn't mind if

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Speaker 8: he was the head coach because you hear him talk

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Speaker 8: about the game basically break down exactly what the Bearcats

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Speaker 8: need to do to start being successful against a premier

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Speaker 8: team like Houston and now granted, and not calling many

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Speaker 8: fouls against us or against you that they would be

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Speaker 2: That's normal.

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Speaker 8: You know, you're playing Kelvin Samson in the in the

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Speaker 8: regular season. You're the Cincinnati Bearcats. You know, we all

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Speaker 8: love the Bearcats here. Let's be honest, small market team.

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Speaker 8: We don't get as much national attention as we usually do.

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Speaker 8: So it's a big deal when Houston loses because of

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Speaker 8: some bad calls. Nobody cares if you see loses, But

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Speaker 8: you can't really complain about those calls when you lose

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Speaker 8: by what was it, thirty.

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Speaker 9: To forty points third points today.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I mean I had to turn twenty in the

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Speaker 1: first half. Yeah, twenty points in the first half. Oh crazy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's painful. Andy in Beachmont is absolutely painful.

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Speaker 2: Man. Hey, thanks for call. Thanks so much for the call.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Bryce is in Cincinnati, Bryce, Welcome, hijick.

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Speaker 9: I mean the Rads off season to Sam has been

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Speaker 9: pretty lack luster, but I think the problem lingering for

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Speaker 9: a couple of years has been the bullten and we

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Speaker 9: just have a really great pitching staff put together. I mean,

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Speaker 9: the starting rotation is great. You have guys like Hunter

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Speaker 9: are very con They can get you six plus innings

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Speaker 9: with Ethan and Nickldola, he's very night and day. But

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Speaker 9: when his off seat and breaking stuff is on, he's

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Speaker 9: a force of you. Reckon with the hitters. He's a

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Speaker 9: great chase rate, especially when that curve ball is on,

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Speaker 9: getting hitters ahead of two strike counts. And I'm really

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Speaker 9: liking this pitchings half of the hitting. I mean, they

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Speaker 9: think he's gonna have a breakout to then he hit

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Speaker 9: five home runs of just eighteen games during the twenty

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Speaker 9: twenty five season. I'm pretty excited for what the Reds

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Speaker 9: have to offer.

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Speaker 1: What a boost to this club when salth Stuart came

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Speaker 1: up in September and he's dropped twenty pounds and this

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Speaker 1: When you can hit, and you hear it all the time, Bryce,

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Speaker 1: if you can hit, they're going to find a place

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Speaker 7: Chick boomshaka Laca, mister positive, thank you so much. Awesome.

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Speaker 1: I sat on that committee for ten years, from nineteen

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Speaker 7: Oh my god, chick, very educational. I did not know that,

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Speaker 1: Just an absolute, absolutely crazy. If you were at if

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Speaker 1: you watched UC today lose to the Houston Cougars, the

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Speaker 1: tenth rank Cougars seventy six to fifty four, or you

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Speaker 1: were at Sintas Center for that awesome Musketeers sixty eight

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Speaker 1: to sixty six victory over the DePaul Blue Demons, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I would love to hear from you coming up at

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Speaker 1: the bottom of the hour, I'm bringing in the music

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Speaker 1: professor Jim le Barbara. But we're really not going to

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Speaker 1: talk music. We're going to talk about a basically a

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals icon that left this earth earlier this week

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Speaker 1: five one, three, seven four nine, seven thousand, one, eight

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Speaker 1: hundred the Big One. Hey, it's sports Talk with the

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Speaker 1: Chickster Chick Ludwig on seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 2: Three twenty four in the Queen City of Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: Chick Ludwig, seven hundred WLW, This is sports Talk. A

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Speaker 1: couple of shout outs here to my buddy Mark Kurnut

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Speaker 1: and his son, Matt Kurnu. It's Matt's birthday and Matt

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Speaker 1: texts me and he says strong sports talk on my birthday.

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Speaker 1: So happy birthday to Matt Kurnut, the son of University

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Speaker 1: of well Miami University ad junk Professor Mark Kurnut. Mark

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Speaker 1: and I work together and competed against one another when

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Speaker 1: Mark was at the Cincinnati Enquirer as the Bengals beat

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Speaker 1: writer and I was at.

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Speaker 2: The Dayton Daily News as the Bengals beat writer.

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Speaker 1: So Matt Mark's son, he's in law enforcement and does

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Speaker 1: a phenomenal job.

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Speaker 2: So happy birthday to Matt Kurnut and.

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Speaker 1: Then my umpire partner, Dale House, on his way to

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Speaker 1: a basketball game listening to the show, and he says,

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Speaker 1: always loves listening to you. Keep up the great work.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much. Dale House really appreciate that. And how

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Speaker 1: about the Xavier Musketeers trailing fifty seven to thirty nine.

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Speaker 1: My Ohio State math tells me that's eighteen points with

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Speaker 1: thirteen thirty five to go, and they come all the

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Speaker 1: way back and win on a shot that beats the

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Speaker 1: buzzer by Philip borro vechin In and CJ. Gunn of

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Speaker 1: the DePaul Blue Demons hit a twenty eight foot three

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Speaker 1: pointer to tie the score at sixty six, but then

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Speaker 1: Boro Veachin in with an eleven foot turnaround jumper at

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Speaker 1: the buzzer and it's Musketeers sixty eight to Paul sixty six.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic.

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Speaker 1: That puts some sav on the wounds from earlier today

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Speaker 1: when the University of Cincinnati Bearcats got blown out at

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Speaker 1: Houston by the tenth rank Cougar's seventy six to fifty four.

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Speaker 1: UC's fourteenth consecutive loss to Houston. UC comes back on

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Speaker 1: Thursday night to face West Virginia at home and then

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Speaker 1: a home game against UCF. So what blows you away

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Speaker 1: about the Bearcats. They'll go in stretches and they look unbeatable,

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Speaker 1: and then they go in stretches where it looks like

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Speaker 1: anybody can beat them, and Eastern Michigan did earlier this

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Speaker 1: season in a non conference game. Let's go out to

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Speaker 1: the phones. Mike is in Eton, Ohio, home of the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Mike, yes, sir, Yes.

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Speaker 10: Sir, and also the home of Juliet Enough big just

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Speaker 10: Gin Reds fand Ears.

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Speaker 7: Kick.

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Speaker 2: Are we fired up for the season? Mike? I am

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Speaker 2: so pumped.

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Speaker 6: I'm a bump.

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Speaker 9: But you really think you really think they're gonna.

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Speaker 1: Oh, they're gonna win the Central I really believe it.

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Speaker 1: I believe it because because of the pitching.

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Speaker 6: Yes, give me improve, give me improve our bullpen?

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Speaker 2: Oh god, big time, big time bullpen.

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Speaker 9: How did how did we improve it?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

506
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: Well, you they re signed Emilio Pegan. Okay, it's the closure.

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Speaker 1: You still got Tony Santition as a set up guy.

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Speaker 1: But they added three key piece pieces one Caleb Ferguson,

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Speaker 1: one Pierce Johnson and Brock Burke. So a couple of

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Speaker 1: least guys alrighty, Yeah, these guys are quality. And you've

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Speaker 1: still got Graham Ashcraft, Connor Phillips came on strong last year.

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Speaker 1: So loving the bullpen and loving the starters, and one

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Speaker 1: thing and Mike, one thing to watch here as spring

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Speaker 1: training progresses. Okay, who's going to be the fifth starter

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Speaker 1: in this rotation? You've got Hunter Green, Nick Lodolo, Andrew

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Speaker 1: Abbott and Brady Singer, and then there's Chase Chase Burns,

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Speaker 1: Baby Burn Chase Burns, and then you've got Rhet Louder

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Speaker 1: and even Brandon Williamson's coming back from injury, and so

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Speaker 1: is Juli and Aggie are so.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, what's your strength?

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Speaker 7: Summer schedular looked.

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Speaker 2: Like, you know, I really haven't studied it.

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Speaker 1: All I've looked at is Opening Day on March twenty six,

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Speaker 1: four to ten, first pitch against the Boston Red Sox.

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Speaker 6: I cannot wait.

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Speaker 11: Let me ask you something, Yes, what do you think

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Speaker 11: of baseball comes back NBC UND twenty sixtures.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, they're coming back.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna yeah, NBC is going to televise some baseball

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna be able to hear Joey Vado with

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Speaker 1: with some analysis. How about that. That's gonna be fantastic.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be fantastic.

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Speaker 5: Are you are you gonna be on tomorrow?

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Speaker 2: I am not on tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I will be on next Saturday from six to nine pm.

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Speaker 1: And Mike, I'm staying in my lane. I am staying

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Speaker 1: in my lane as a part time or baby. I

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Speaker 1: love it so much.

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Speaker 5: So much.

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Speaker 11: I will call you next Saturday.

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Speaker 2: All right, Mike, Hey, really appreciate you calling.

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Speaker 1: And uh man, you're a You're a top shelf chick magnet,

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Speaker 1: and I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. All right, take care of Mike.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, Jim Lebarbara the Music Professor with

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Speaker 1: some uh some strong thoughts about a Cincinnati Bengals icon

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Speaker 1: when we reach turned. This as Sports Talk with your

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Speaker 1: host Chick Ludwig the Chickster, with you till six o'clock

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Speaker 1: tonight on seven hundred WLW today, three point thirty eight

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Speaker 1: in the Queen City of Cincinnati. Chick Ludwig, seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 1: This is sports Talk and our next guest is known

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Speaker 1: as the Music Professor. However, he is also a great

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Speaker 1: friend of all things Cincinnati sports. A true officionado of

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Speaker 1: Red's Bengals, UC Xavier, all Things Cincinnati Sports, and Jim

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Speaker 1: Lebarber before we get to the subject at hand. Here,

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Speaker 1: isn't it a shame that Marty Brennaman's statue at Great

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Speaker 1: American Ballpark gets vandalized?

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Speaker 2: How crazy is that.

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Speaker 12: Icked it down? And what he told me you over

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Speaker 12: Lynchi said, I would like to meet that kid and

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Speaker 12: talk to him. Maybe I can influence him because he

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Speaker 12: had no idea who mighty been him on?

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Speaker 7: Was?

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Speaker 2: I'm sure in vandalyzing that statue unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, that would be Yeah, that would be

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Speaker 1: most welcome if that ever happened. But the other day

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Speaker 1: you wrote a post on your Facebook page that you

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Speaker 1: are in tears as you write this because the Bengals

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Speaker 1: mourn weight room legend Kim would and Kim was an

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Speaker 1: absolute Bengals and NFL legend.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I got to tell you the National Football League's

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Speaker 12: first full time strength coach joined the Bengals in seventy five,

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Speaker 12: and that's when I met him. Paul Brown's last season

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Speaker 12: with the Bengals and he stayed through the two thousand

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Speaker 12: and two season. Well, he came and I met him

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Speaker 12: at the Italian in downtown. Jerry and Greg scroll out

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Speaker 12: his place and he was with Pete Brown. So we're

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Speaker 12: going there for lunch and dinner and he's in there

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Speaker 12: and we're talking. One day and said, yeah, I'm gonna

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Speaker 12: be working with the guys with Molis equipment. We started

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Speaker 12: talking abou Lawless equipment and I said, you know, I

583
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Speaker 12: need to lose some weight. I was doing the afternoon

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Speaker 12: drive show on your station on WLW. I said, I'm

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Speaker 12: built like a pair. I need to lose like twenty

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Speaker 12: twenty five pounds. So he got me down the Spinny

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Speaker 12: Field when they weren't working out when the Bengals went there,

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Speaker 12: and I lost like twenty twenty five pounds in one month.

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Speaker 12: So we became instant friends. So we're hanging out together

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Speaker 12: and I said, let's go out to that. The Inner

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Speaker 12: Circle was my bar to go to in the Clifton area.

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Speaker 12: Now it's Bogart's. I believe Pete s Rogston's place in

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Speaker 12: the Inner Circle. I said, come on stop buy my

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Speaker 12: apartment and the Forum. He stopped by and he had

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Speaker 12: a funky shirt on and doungarees on. I said, I said, Kim,

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Speaker 12: I said, man, you're going to be with the professor.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 12: I said, you can't. You can't be hanging with me

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Speaker 12: looking like that. I said, yeah, to take a suit,

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Speaker 12: get one of my suits. And he goes to my

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Speaker 12: closet and looking at said he said, just borrowing and

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Speaker 12: I said no, no, no, you keep the suit. So that

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Speaker 12: was the beginning of our friendship. And he came in

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Speaker 12: to do They're trying to rehand Greg Cook and they

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00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 12: needed to get Mike Reid to work out. And you

606
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 12: can talk to those guys, Reggie Williams or Munos or

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00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 12: Tim Kremrai, and they'll tell you, I mean, he was

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Speaker 12: no nonsense. So work out with the weights and those steroids.

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Speaker 12: And I know later talking to Larry Starr, Larry Star

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Speaker 12: said that, you know, he saw that, he saw the knallists,

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Speaker 12: and he went to housing and he put his job

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Speaker 12: on the line. He said, yeah, I think I think

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Speaker 12: the uh, the REGs could use this. And he told

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Speaker 12: me at the time there were some of the coaches

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Speaker 12: were against it. Sparky was kind of like, you know,

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Speaker 12: whatever you think, Larry, whatever you think, but he went ahead.

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Speaker 12: Kluzisky wasn't in favor of it. So he got the

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00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 12: Mollist equipment, and sure enough the Reds win the World Series,

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Speaker 12: and then the Yankees picked up on it, and then

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00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 12: every team in baseball picked up on the novelist, and

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Speaker 12: in football, every team started using the knowledge equipment because

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Speaker 12: of Kim Wood. And so over the years we became

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Speaker 12: very close friends. And every month I could expect in

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Speaker 12: the mail a package and it would be with either

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Speaker 12: one of the magazines, and he's rock magazine it was

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00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 12: fairly expensive magazine from England, a book on Elvis, a

627
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Speaker 12: book on politics. Every month, and if we sat down

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Speaker 12: and talked on the phone, it would be a good

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Speaker 12: and now it would be a short conversation. We talked

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Speaker 12: about everything, I mean everything, and he was so knowledge

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Speaker 12: and was so smart, and I know, I just tried

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Speaker 12: to reach him. Recently, I was talking to his son

633
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Speaker 12: John yesterday. John called me, a son from Michigan, and

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Speaker 12: I said, Man, I missed him so much, I said,

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Speaker 12: and I tried to call him. I couldn't reach him.

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Speaker 12: But I knew he didn't know how to do the

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Speaker 12: phone thing to hold messages and that, so I thought,

638
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 12: maybe maybe he's just busy. Because Proud Chicken was his

639
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 12: place on Calhoun Street. Always went in there and I

640
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 12: know they were clothing, so we're going to get there,

641
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 12: you know. So that didn't happen. But he did so

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00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 12: many things, like because when he came on board, they

643
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 12: didn't have the workout of spinningfielder, the workout at the

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Speaker 12: Paul Brown Stadium. He had to go to wherever the

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Speaker 12: players were and get them to work out, or take

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Speaker 12: him to the fat farm at the university. So he

647
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 12: had to go down south. And sometimes these guys were

648
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 12: reluctant or people the neighbors were you know, who are

649
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 12: you and took a while so he'd't have to hang

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Speaker 12: in the town for a couple of days to talk

651
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 12: to the guys and set up the program with him.

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00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 12: And he hung out at record stores and places like

653
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 12: that and picked up a tremendous knowledge of music. And

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Speaker 12: I can remember look, for instance, he found the rockabilly

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Speaker 12: guys in the Rockabilly Hall of Fame. He wrote Elvis's

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Speaker 12: hit on the Sun Sun records. I forgot to remember

657
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Speaker 12: to forget a guy named Charlie Feathers, and he told

658
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 12: me by saying, found Charlie Feathers, And he got me

659
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 12: every record that he did with Hey you got him

660
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 12: in a studio, had a whole album with Charlie Feathers,

661
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 12: recorded great stuff. I'm sure he didn't make a penny

662
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 12: on it. You know, that was the kind of guy

663
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Speaker 12: he was. And he would send me music that I

664
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 12: never heard of, were CDs. He makes CDs up and

665
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 12: send me a CD of music that I didn't know,

666
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 12: but well I can remember I got an album in

667
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 12: my studio now looking at it called Rock and Sydney

668
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 12: and the Duke's Band from down South. You know, he

669
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 12: just absolutely was into he really knew the mus business

670
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 12: and love you know, love him obviously my connection talking

671
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 12: about about music and a very generous guy, very generous guy.

672
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 12: And then he had the cang room over at the

673
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Speaker 12: Vernon Manor where he sold Nolace equipment. Was very much

674
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Speaker 12: involved early on with Arthur Jones. You know his history.

675
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 12: He was a pre season All American football player at

676
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Speaker 12: Wisconsin and Dan Keen of Cincinnati. Well, he wasn't paid

677
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 12: when I knew him, and I gave him a suit.

678
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 12: He wasn't making any money. He was just kind of

679
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 12: here and it took a couple of years before they

680
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 12: officially said okay, you're going to be the strengths coach.

681
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 12: But he had so many connections to people that he knew.

682
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Speaker 12: And I remember talking about Robert Altman, uh, the big

683
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Speaker 12: lawyer in Washington, d C. The Democrat.

684
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Speaker 7: Uh.

685
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Speaker 12: He went to Wisconsin with him and he told me

686
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Speaker 12: about Linda Carter, wonder woman who Altman married Carter. And

687
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 12: he said, you know, it was a party at John

688
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 12: Sawyer's house that gave me a couple of years extra

689
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 12: years with the Bengals. It was a big party. Linda

690
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 12: Carter was in town trying to raise they were raising

691
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 12: money for a movie for Linda Carter. And at that party,

692
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 12: John Sawyer's there and she meets John and somehow there

693
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Speaker 12: was a connection to the Bengals. And she said, oh,

694
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Speaker 12: then you know my good friend Kim Would He's a

695
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 12: good buddy of mine, you know. And he said, I

696
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 12: think that gave me a couple of extra years with

697
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 12: the with the Bengals. But just a wonderful guy.

698
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 7: I know.

699
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 12: He'd go to New York. There's a big record store

700
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 12: there and he gave the guy like three hundred bucks

701
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 12: and said, pick out the best do wop records that

702
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 12: you have and I'll come back and pick him up.

703
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 12: But a wonderful person, dedicated as a friend. But I

704
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 12: will tell you this the last time I was with

705
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 12: Kim just a while ago. When I first met him,

706
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 12: he had the funky shirt on and like you jeans.

707
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 12: He still had that funky short and those jeans. And

708
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 12: I'm sure he's a multi millionaire by this point in

709
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 12: his life because he also created Hammer Strengths, Buster Douglas

710
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 12: and the Hammer Strength that's in so many gyms all

711
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 12: over the world. And he was driving his old beat

712
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 12: up truck that the door was kind of in trouble

713
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 12: closing the door, so he hadn't changed. And he has

714
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 12: a collection of the probably better than the Museum of

715
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 12: Weight Training Equipment old Anviols going leeway back with the

716
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 12: history of weightlifting and weight training. Just a wonderful man.

717
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 12: Of course, he had that jukebox down at Paul Brown Stadium.

718
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 12: Jerry scull I have got that for him. He was

719
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 12: a vendor at one time down South and packed with songs.

720
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 12: So some of the guys who were in the West

721
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 12: Coast there were certain West Coast rock and roll and

722
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 12: soul records, so he had that on Southern Soul records.

723
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Speaker 13: On.

724
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 12: So the jukebox was a little bit of records for

725
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 12: the guys to work out in the and the gym

726
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 12: to workout with his nutllets and the hammer equipment. Just

727
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 12: a wonderful, wonderful guy and I miss him. I'm gonna

728
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 12: miss him a lot.

729
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 2: This is fantastic stuff. Jim le Barbara is with us.

730
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Speaker 1: And yes, Kim Wood who passed away at the age

731
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Speaker 1: of eighty this past week, first full time strength coach

732
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 1: in the National Football League, anti drug crusader, innovator who

733
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Speaker 1: helped transform the whole weight training industry, and yeah, co

734
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 1: founded Hammer Strand and then at the forefront of Nautilus

735
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: Equipment and like you mentioned, just a lover of music

736
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: and a collector and just so well read and just

737
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: so intelligent.

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Speaker 12: Hey, chick, I really hope that the Bengals do something,

739
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 12: maybe the Ring of bun or something to recognize him

740
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 12: as the National Football League recognize him, because this is

741
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 12: one of those guys in the background, in the background,

742
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 12: you know, we're other teams like the Steelers do a

743
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 12: lot of drugs in those days. The Bengals didn't have that,

744
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 12: you know, and they respected you. Talk to krim Ran

745
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 12: some of those guys. I mean, it was all strengths,

746
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 12: you know, work out with equipment and all that, and

747
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 12: he worked later with concussion protocol and neck injuries. But

748
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 12: a wonderful, wonderful guy who was just a good friend,

749
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 12: just a wonderful.

750
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: Friend, no doubt, a true legend here with the Cincinnati

751
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: Bengals franchise. And while Jim I didn't realize any of

752
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: this on the periphery of his music and his in

753
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: his book knowledge and you know, you think of Gosha

754
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: strength coach just being a cone in the Barbarian but

755
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: this guy was special.

756
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 12: Oh really special, really really a special guy. And all

757
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 12: the inside information that he had about things I said,

758
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 12: I said, can you got to write a book? You

759
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 12: got to write a book, man and dine. So suddenly

760
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 12: Johnson had just happened very quickly, very quickly, and of

761
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 12: course from Paul Brown team down. I came down from Cleveland,

762
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 12: and Paul Brown knew me from Cleveland, knew my name

763
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 12: at least from Cleveland. And Geene Hickerson or was worked,

764
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 12: you know, hung out of the our station where I

765
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 12: was a king w k ycing Cleveland, and Jean was

766
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 12: from Memphis and he and Alvis were friends, good friends,

767
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 12: and Elvis was a football buff. And Geene Hickerson lined

768
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 12: up with Paul Brown to get Bengal football tapes. They

769
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 12: were back in the big reel of real tapes, you know,

770
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 12: in black and white, and so the game films. Elvis

771
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 12: watching George Klein, Elvis's buddy, that confirmed this to me.

772
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 12: I said, you know, did he get the Oh yeah,

773
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 12: he got those Bengals tapes every game and that was

774
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 12: with dissect dissection as he wanted to be a football player,

775
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,439
Speaker 12: you know, so he's dissects and the tape. So Paul

776
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 12: Brown and then my connection with you know was Pete

777
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 12: Brown was Paul Son Pete and then Kim Wood hanging

778
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 12: out with Kim Wood in this wonderful, wonderful experience back

779
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 12: in those days. But working at Spinnyfield, he would bring

780
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 12: in guys. This is before they had the Clong room

781
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 12: with the Vernon manor so he was showcasing Nunus equipment.

782
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 12: Guys would come in, big line football coaches and I'd

783
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 12: be working out and some guy would be throwing up

784
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 12: working on the equipment next to me because they were

785
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 12: used to working out a Natilis. But it worked, that's

786
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 12: the equipment certainly worked, and he was in the forefront

787
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 12: and he worked with Arthury Jones on that and a

788
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 12: name that really should be he should be right up there.

789
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 12: Kim Wood should some national recognition and certainly the Bengals

790
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,439
Speaker 12: should honor him as a first full time strength coach

791
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 12: in Pro football.

792
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 2: And Jim le Barbara with us for another minute or so.

793
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: Gosh, you drop the name of Geene Hickerson, Oh uh, Glass, Kanicki,

794
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 1: Moji Ski. The names just ring so true from back

795
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty four when the Browns won the NFL championship.

796
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 12: Yeah, great teams back in those days. And then there's

797
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 12: you know, there's Paul Brown, you know, yes, and just

798
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 12: you know, and then that legend continues on with our

799
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 12: football team and hopefully hopefully we get back in that

800
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 12: national spotlight quickly with Joe Burrowing company.

801
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: No doubt, Jim, this has been an absolute treat. It

802
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: always is. And can't thank you enough for taking time

803
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: out of your busy schedule to join us.

804
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 12: Okay, well, thank you, thank you.

805
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: Awesome Jim le Barbara the music professor with us, and

806
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: you are listening to sports talk when we come back.

807
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: How about Xavier coming back from eighteen down. You see

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00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: losing today and as we speak, Wow, the Molette Hall

809
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,919
Speaker 1: on the beautiful campus of Miami University in Oxford rock

810
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: And right now it's the Red Hawk against the Northern

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Speaker 1: Illinois Huskies. This is Chick lud Wig Sports Talk, seven

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Speaker 1: hundred WLW. Four minutes before the top of the hour,

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Speaker 1: Chick Ludwig, seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 2: This is sports Talk.

815
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: We're going all the way to six o'clock tonight and

816
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: that's when Sterling takes over these airwaves. Well, if you're

817
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: just now joining us, thank you so much for tuning in.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate all loyal listeners to seven hundred WLW and

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Speaker 1: all the Chick magnets out there coming out of the woodwork,

820
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 1: appreciate you so much. And if you're just now joining us,

821
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: UC loses to Houston, Xavier comes back an incredible comeback

822
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: victory over the DePaul Blue Demons, and right now the

823
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 1: Miami RedHawks are battling the Northern Illinois Huskies at Malett Hall.

824
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: And it was a couple of years ago I was

825
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: UMPI hiring girls fast pitch softball and fairborne and the

826
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: guy comes up to the backstop between innings and goes, hey,

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Speaker 1: are you the guy that's said on the air that

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Speaker 1: Mallett Hall is the world's largest living room? And I'm there, Yeah,

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00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: that was me. He goes, That's the greatest thing I

830
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:23,479
Speaker 1: ever heard. And the reason I said that way back

831
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: when is Mallett Hall was like a living room was

832
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: past tense. You could take a blanket and a pillow

833
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: and go to the upper deck and take a maybe

834
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: take a book and take a nice little nap. Now

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00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: those days are history. The Men of Steel Travis Steele,

836
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: head coach of the Mighty Miami RedHawks. That place is

837
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: rocking now, over nine thousand strong the other night nationally

838
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: televised game, and then today. I don't have an official

839
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: attendance yet because it's early on in that game, but

840
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: you know the place is packed out, sold out.

841
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 2: Mallett Hall.

842
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 1: I will cry the day that building comes down and

843
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: a new building goes up on cook Field.

844
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 2: I love Mallet Hall.

845
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: In the UC game, the starters for the Bearcats, Boba Miller,

846
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 1: Mustapha Chom Gisel, James Dayde Thomas, and Jalen Celestine scored

847
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 1: exactly combined thirty points from your starters Boba Miller two,

848
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Speaker 1: Mustapha Chomp two, Gigsel James five, Dayde Thomas six, and

849
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: Celestine led the team with fifteen points off the bench.

850
00:49:52,840 --> 00:50:00,720
Speaker 1: Keyshan Tillery with freshman with a career high fourteen, limited

851
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: to just fifty four points. They shoot thirty eight percent

852
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: from the from the field, they did make ten of

853
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: twenty three threes for forty three percent, and then sixty

854
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: two percent from the free throw line. Bearkatsi had nineteen

855
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Speaker 1: turnovers to four for the Cougars, and the Cougars outscored

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00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 1: them twenty six to two. With those turnovers, it can't happen. Hey,

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Speaker 1: we've reached the top of the hour break. When we

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Speaker 1: come back, the Cincinnati Reds are going to win the

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Speaker 1: NL Central Division. What say you? I've got my coffee,

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Speaker 1: I've got my computer. All I need is you At five, one, three, seven,

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Speaker 1: four nine, seven thousand, one eight hundred the Big One

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Speaker 1: Sports Talk for two more hours with your host Chick

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Speaker 1: Ludwig on seven hundred WLW ME four oh seven in

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Speaker 1: the Queens City of Cincinnati. Chick Ludwig, seven hundred w

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Speaker 1: l W. This is Sports Talk Shoeless. Joe Waddell is

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Speaker 1: Today's producer, keeping the chicken off, the legend in the fairway,

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Speaker 1: and we are going all the way till six o'clock

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Speaker 1: like Eric Carman and the Raspberries go all the way.

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Speaker 1: And I am predicting the Cincinnati Reds win the National

870
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Speaker 1: League Central Division. Whole question on my Twitter page at

871
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: chick Ludwig where will the Reds finish in the NL

872
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: Central Division race in twenty twenty six? And right now

873
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: it's the small sample size just over one hundred votes,

874
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 1: ten point three percent in first place, twenty six point

875
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: two percent second place, forty three point one percent third place,

876
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: and twenty one point five percent either fourth or fifth place.

877
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: I like the Reds to win this Central Division, and

878
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: it all starts with pitching. And I want you to

879
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 1: hear what Andrew Abbott said, because iron definitely sharpens iron.

880
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: There's great competition among the starters, and that's what you

881
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: love to see. Andrew Rabbit says, we have so much depth.

882
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: Everybody is ready. They've either proved themselves already or they're

883
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: trying to prove themselves. I think everybody is driven. I

884
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:15,760
Speaker 1: think everybody has that internal competition. We've always talked about

885
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: breed it internally and then show it out on the

886
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: field and kind of one up each other on the

887
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 1: field in such a good way, not a bad way.

888
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 2: What say you.

889
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: Love this pitching staff with Hunter Green, Nick Lodolo, Andrew Abbott,

890
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: Brady Singer. Can't wait to see who the number five

891
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: starters going to be, whether it's Chase Burns, Rhet Louder,

892
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 1: Brandon Williamson, Jolly and Aggie Are and then the bullpen

893
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: with the additions they've made loaded much better bullpen than

894
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: last year. Let's go out to the phones. Jeff has

895
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: been waiting a while in Dayton.

896
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 2: Hi, Jeff.

897
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 13: Fike, thanks for coming in and doing the show today.

898
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 2: Thank you so much out there.

899
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 1: Well, it's it was better than like last Saturday night, man,

900
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: because I got out of here and a lot of

901
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: swirling snow. It was sticking, but I was able to

902
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: get back to the Miamisburg war Room safely.

903
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 2: We love you, Jick. I love you too, Jeff.

904
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 13: Listen. I want to touch on on the rids.

905
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 2: I agree with you.

906
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 5: I think being a win at all.

907
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,760
Speaker 13: But as far as you see in Ohio state basketball goes,

908
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 13: I see the sneam thing from both teams. They don't

909
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 13: have the height up front, not really. And when Wisconsin

910
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,280
Speaker 13: they look like they look like trees against the Ohio

911
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 13: State's front line.

912
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 2: And I've got that game on right now with a

913
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 2: minute four to go.

914
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 1: Wisconsin has an eighty nine to seventy seven lead over

915
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: the Buckeyes. And I'll be honest with you here, Jeff,

916
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 1: as an Ohio State grad, I mean, I'm all about football.

917
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: I do pay attention to their basketball, but football rules

918
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: for me. And I just love all the local teams

919
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 1: in basketball from UC Xavier, Miami, Dayton, and Wright State.

920
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 2: Love them all.

921
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 7: So do I.

922
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 13: Now let's get to the Reds. Yes, sir, you're right

923
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 13: they're pitching staff. I would be in a in a

924
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 13: seven game series. I would put the Reds pitching staff

925
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 13: up against the Dodgers pitching staff this coming year. In

926
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 13: the start, Like you mentioned, they've got more than enough

927
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 13: Abele starters. And I know some of them are projects,

928
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 13: but we've seen we've seen what they can do. Like Burns. Yes, Nick,

929
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 13: he might wind up being what you can wind up

930
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 13: being the eighth s.

931
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: Or you know, we saw him in the bullpen too,

932
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,919
Speaker 1: so that guy can uh wherever they use him.

933
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:00,320
Speaker 2: He can be a fan active.

934
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 13: Well, how about Connor Phillips.

935
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: Oh, I know, did he turn it on at the

936
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: end of the year. Yes, yes, he looked awesome.

937
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 13: Loaded that pitching step is looking One other thing about

938
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 13: their lineup. I think everybody's going to hit more home

939
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 13: runs this year, all the way around.

940
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 5: Steer had injuries.

941
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 2: Uh last year, I'm and he.

942
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 8: Still hit twenty something.

943
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 5: But I see.

944
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 13: Steer and just go around the whole team, I see

945
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,760
Speaker 13: him all hitting more home runs. So do they really

946
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 13: need that thirty to thirty five home run hitter if

947
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 13: they all maybe they got a thirty home run hitter

948
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,760
Speaker 13: in South Stewart and Noel lay Marty.

949
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 8: I don't know, they're they could do that.

950
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 13: I got.

951
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,439
Speaker 1: Here, same here, and they're really counting on these young

952
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: players to take the next step and just having the

953
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 1: taste of it last year, they should.

954
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally agree.

955
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 13: Hey, what are they going to do with Edwin Arroyo?

956
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 2: Oh uh wait, Oh, I know, I know what.

957
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 1: Hey, there's there's talent down, There's there's talent in that

958
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 1: that farm system. See if he can continue to improve.

959
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 13: Watch a little film on a Loyo and his sealding.

960
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 2: Oh my lord, he is slick.

961
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 13: Hey, I'm gonna let you go check. I know you

962
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 13: got other callers come in. It's always a pleasure and

963
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 13: honor to talk to you.

964
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: Hey, it's an honor, pleasure and privilege for me to

965
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: have you call in and listen. Thank you so much, Jeff,

966
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: we go. We go way back to our days at

967
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: Woe and Dayton. Yes we do.

968
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 13: Yep.

969
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: Oh fantastic. God like it all right, appreciate it. And

970
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: just looking at this stable of starters. Andrew Abbott goes

971
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: ten and seven last year with a two point eighty

972
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: seven e RA with one shutout, and he set career

973
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: highs and starts with twenty nine innings with one hundred

974
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: and sixty six and a third in strikeouts at one

975
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: forty nine. Nicolodolo, who went nine to eight with a

976
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: three point three to three ERA, had a career high

977
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: in appearances with twenty nine. That's what the club needs.

978
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: At one hundred, Green starts with twenty eight innings with

979
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty six and two thirds and strikeouts

980
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: with one hundred and fifty six, and he threw two

981
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: complete games with one shutout. And then there's Brady Singer,

982
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: who led the staff and starts with thirty two innings

983
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: with one hundred and sixty nine and two thirds and

984
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: strikeouts with one hundred and sixty three. His consistency is awesome. Hey,

985
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: let's go out to the phones. Fred is in Pickwall,

986
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: home of the Indians. Hi, Fred, I should.

987
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 2: Tell you do him fantastic. I want to bring up about.

988
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 14: A couple of local people we have that are doing

989
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 14: pretty good in their programs, and one of them is

990
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 14: the defensive coordinator for them, Indiana Hooiers Briant.

991
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 5: Hayes, who's a graduate Pickle High School.

992
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Wow, fantastic.

993
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: And Charlie Becker's dad is a nineteen ninety two Elder

994
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: grad who played on the ten and oh football team

995
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: at Elder in nineteen ninety one.

996
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 2: Unbelievable. I did not know that. That is just fantastic.

997
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 14: And then another one is the current head coach of

998
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 14: the Padres, Craig Stammon.

999
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 2: From the University of Dayton. And where did he go

1000
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 2: to high school for sales? Yes? Wow, and still lives.

1001
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 14: In north Star, ap there on one twenty seven, right

1002
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 14: outside of old door. Lives in North Star, still with

1003
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 14: his family.

1004
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 5: His kid's still good at her sales school.

1005
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 14: His wife's a volleyball coach, and he still works in

1006
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 14: the off season at his dad's hardware store.

1007
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 2: That is so incredible, incredible.

1008
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 14: Yes, nice story about him on the local radio station

1009
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 14: where he's really involved in his local community and has

1010
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 14: no reason to leave. And when he was offered that job,

1011
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 14: he thought he was going to Fort Wayne.

1012
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 5: He said, he wants you to take over the position

1013
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 5: and here.

1014
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 2: And he was really surprised.

1015
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: So well, I'm going to I really appreciate that, Fred,

1016
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to embrace Craig's stamens as a fan favorite.

1017
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: And if the Reds can't win it all, man, I'll

1018
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 1: be pulling for the Padres because he is just a

1019
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 1: phenomenal story.

1020
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 5: Yes he is.

1021
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 2: That is great. Gosh. I really appreciate you letting us know.

1022
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 5: Thank you very much.

1023
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:38,439
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Fred, appreciate it. And then there's

1024
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 1: Hunter Green here, likely on his way to another All

1025
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: Star bid, maybe even in an el Cy Young Award consideration,

1026
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: but he had two stints on the injured list with

1027
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: that right growing string cost him almost three months, limited

1028
01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: to just nineteen starts seven and four with a two

1029
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: point seven six ERA and one shutout while throwing one

1030
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 1: hundred and seven and two thirds innings with one hundred

1031
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: and thirty two strikeouts. And the thing you love about

1032
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 1: this these four starting pitchers are.

1033
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 2: There different styles. Isn't it amazing? Uh?

1034
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 1: Just watching the talent and how it differs with success.

1035
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 1: Each one of those starters brings a little something different

1036
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: to the mound.

1037
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 2: Green has that power, right arm power.

1038
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: Abbott who I just absolutely love, crafty lefty who can

1039
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 1: also bring the fastball. He has tremendous command of his

1040
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: pitches and like Mark Sheldon said on the Reds dot Com,

1041
01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 1: he can locate his pitches really wherever he wants. And

1042
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: then another lefty and Lodolo that big, sweeping curveball that

1043
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: could just rack up strikeouts so quickly, especially against right

1044
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 1: handed hitters. And you hope that that, you know, his

1045
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: his thumb and index finger, the blisters, You just hope

1046
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: that that is contained.

1047
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 2: You just can't.

1048
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 1: He's healthy except for his uh, you know, his fingers.

1049
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 1: And then there's Brady Singer offering that consistency, like I said,

1050
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: the number starts, the number of innings pitched, and the

1051
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 1: number of strikeouts. He led the Reds last year with

1052
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 1: all of that, and he was the only Red starter

1053
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: to go from opening day to final whistle without an

1054
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 1: injury stint. And then we just can't wait to find

1055
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 1: out who the fifth starter is gonna be. Let's go

1056
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 1: out to my old stomping grounds, Western Hills.

1057
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 2: Rick.

1058
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:04,080
Speaker 8: Hi.

1059
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 10: So, yeah, I'm pretty optimistic about the Reds this year.

1060
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 10: I was wondering, do you know anything about in Canarcion

1061
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 10: Strand he on the rosters? He coming back?

1062
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 1: Oh, yes, he will be at spring training. And can't

1063
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 1: wait to see what he does because.

1064
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 10: He always was a good hitter and he had all

1065
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 10: these unfortunate injuries and everyone's sort of like he's flew

1066
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 10: over under the radar with everybody, and I think that

1067
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 10: he might be a big impact player.

1068
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 5: I just got a hunch.

1069
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 10: But you know, I'm I'm hoping. It seems to me

1070
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 10: like they ordain a starting lineup when they get in

1071
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 10: spring training, and I hope they have a different kind

1072
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 10: of way of looking at it. I just maybe make

1073
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 10: people earn their starting roles and say all the positions

1074
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 10: are open, you gotta earn it.

1075
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 2: Oh that's what they'll do that. I mean, you know, it.

1076
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:55,919
Speaker 10: Seems like sometimes these new guys coming up. They get

1077
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 10: real hot in spring training and they just send them

1078
01:03:58,160 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 10: back down in the minors. I think they get this

1079
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 10: and then they quit hitting, and I think it's like psychological.

1080
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1081
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 10: It just seems to me it is if they put

1082
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 10: a regular starter, he's like sort of like supposed to

1083
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 10: be inserted in that lineup, and then they can't hit

1084
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 10: at all, and then the guy who was hitting he

1085
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 10: ate the more. But the other thing is I hope

1086
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 10: they can become more better condition. There's too many injuries,

1087
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 10: too many polls and strains. I don't know why we

1088
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 10: just can't get back to the old fashioned calisthetics that

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Speaker 10: would sort of stop the injury problem, and maybe the

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Speaker 10: team would be much better served by just trying a

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Speaker 10: little different thinking outside the box.

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Speaker 1: Well, you definitely want the Reds to stay healthy. That's

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Speaker 1: going to be an absolute critical need for this team.

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Speaker 1: But you mentioned Christian encarnassion Strand. He's on the forty

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Speaker 1: man roster. He's listed as an infielder, you know, first

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Speaker 1: and third base, but they're really where is.

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01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 2: Room for him?

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Speaker 1: So he's going to prove he can hit once again.

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01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 1: He was chasing too many bad pitches. But when he

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Speaker 1: gets a hold of the ball, baby, it goes.

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01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 2: A long long way.

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Speaker 1: I'm rooting for him, rooting for him me too, to

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01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 1: come back strong. And I'm really surprised that he's still

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01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 1: with us. But is there another team out there that

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01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: wants him? Uh, That's that's what I would trade him.

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01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 10: I'll give him a chance to make the team. He

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01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 10: might be what everyone's looking for. He might just be

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01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 10: the one they're looking for. You know, he's he has

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01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 10: the ability to hit with power, and he's never he's

1110
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 10: had all these freak injuries. He got broken hand one year,

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01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 10: and whatever else happened to him, and you know, he

1112
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 10: just don't get a whole year.

1113
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 2: And yet maybe he can get that this year.

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01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: Hopefully, hopefully he can bounce back, no doubt, like well

1115
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 1: in this club, definitely he's Matt McClain to bounce back

1116
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 1: from that brutal season last year.

1117
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 10: If they can't, if he doesn't bounce back and he's

1118
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 10: still whipping that balls and swinging way too late, maybe

1119
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 10: they could they send him to the miners to fix it,

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Speaker 10: to fix a swing.

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01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 2: About that last year.

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01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 1: There was talk of that last year, but Tito Francona

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01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 1: hung hung tough with him. So we'll see what happens

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01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 1: this year. He's uh, he's a critical critical part of

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Speaker 1: this team.

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Speaker 10: Oh, I completely agree. And what one last thing, I

1127
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 10: hope they run more. I hope they try to steal.

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01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 10: I remember when you know Elie was he was always

1129
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 10: such a threat and he said, well if he gets on,

1130
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 10: he's scoring a second and third.

1131
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 4: You know, everybody was in.

1132
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 10: The in the was watching the game. They would get

1133
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 10: all excited.

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01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 5: Was he on base?

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01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 10: You know, but they don't let him steal. This last year.

1136
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 3: I know he struggled with don't like steal, struggled.

1137
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 1: With those uh with those leg injuries of the second

1138
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 1: half of last season. So hopefully keep him healthy and

1139
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 1: then give him the rest that he needs, uh what

1140
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 1: once a week, once every couple of weeks, sitting down

1141
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 1: because uh, he wants to play every day, which is commendable,

1142
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 1: but in the big picture, the team is what counts.

1143
01:06:58,000 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 10: Absolutely, I hope they give him the red light and

1144
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 10: let him steal all the time.

1145
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 1: All right, all right, super, all right, Rick, appreciate it.

1146
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 1: Thanks so much. Hey, we've got to take a break.

1147
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 1: We'll come back with more of your thoughts on the Reds.

1148
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 1: When we return Chick Ludwig seven hundred WLW Sports four

1149
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 1: twenty eight in the Queens City of Cincinnati. Let's not

1150
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 1: mess around. Let's go out to the phones and get

1151
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 1: him on before the bottom of the hour break touchdown

1152
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 1: Tommy and Milford.

1153
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 2: Tommy, bring it, brother.

1154
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 11: What do you say?

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01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 6: Chicks there?

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01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 2: Fired up for the Reds. No doubt there you go.

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01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 11: Well, I mean I think they're I think they're locked

1158
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 11: in in the infield and catching and pitching, there's no

1159
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 11: doubt about it. What worries me is depth. I mean

1160
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:44,280
Speaker 11: it's teams gonna have a whole lot of depth in

1161
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 11: the outfield. Still still concerns me. I mean, Marte, I

1162
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 11: think is gonna be solid. I mean, he's another year

1163
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 11: under his belt. But you know, they didn't really improve much,

1164
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 11: you know. I mean you got TJ. Friedl and you

1165
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 11: got I'm still wishing they had kind of a guy

1166
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 11: that could hit twenty home runs, a steal about thirty bases.

1167
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 11: You know, I'd like a center fielder is a lockdown,

1168
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 11: but you know that may not happen. I know, Money's

1169
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 11: Monday is the issue. But you know, like everything else,

1170
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 11: like in football, defense wins a you know championships, so

1171
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 11: does pitching.

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01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly right, and you know they did add JJ

1173
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 1: Bleda might get the first shot at left field. But

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01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 1: if that fails, hey, I look for Spencer Steer out

1175
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 1: there and south Stewart at first base.

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01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, and they got good dh They've got

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01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 11: good rotations, you know, like you said, I mean, they've

1178
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 11: got a good solid seven or eight in the infield.

1179
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 11: I mean, obviously the strength of this team is on

1180
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 11: the mound and that can carry you a long way.

1181
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 11: But it would it would sure be nice picking up

1182
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 11: one extra player and maybe somebody gets loose. You know

1183
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 11: when when when these teams starts cutting down. I mean,

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01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 11: you know, you mem they're looking for a guy at

1185
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 11: a good price. I mean, that's obviously what we're looking for.

1186
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 11: But uh, you know it's it's gonna be an interesting year.

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01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,680
Speaker 11: You know, it would be interesting and Reet Louder kind

1188
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 11: of hit that, you know, hit that fifth lot. I mean,

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01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,760
Speaker 11: if they stick him in and a fifth guy in

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01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 11: that rotation, man, they are heavy duty manhire.

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01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 1: Hey, Tommy, we got to run. Thanks so much, appreciate you.

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01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:10,719
Speaker 11: Okay, Boddy, have a go on man.

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01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 2: All right?

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01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 1: When we come back we're going to talk with Jerry Fick,

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01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 1: who was the Ohio High School Athletic Association Director of

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01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 1: Development for softball officiating and the need for refs, umpires,

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01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 1: you name it. When we come back Jerry Fick on

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01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 2: Four point thirty eight in.

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Speaker 1: The Queen City of Cincinnati, chick Ludwigs, seven hundred WLW.

1201
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 2: This is sports talk.

1202
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:41,720
Speaker 1: And it's awfully cold out with snow and ice on

1203
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 1: the ground, but pretty soon that's going to disappear and

1204
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 1: we're going to be playing some ball, baseball and softball.

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01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 1: And it's always a pleasure to welcome in the ohsaas

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01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 1: director of Development for Softball officiating, the one and only

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01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 1: Jerry Fick. And Jerry, how about this for timing this

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01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 1: week and especial actually on February fourth, it's National Girl,

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01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 1: Girls and Women in Sports Day and can't wait to

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01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:07,759
Speaker 1: play some ball?

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01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 2: Jerry, Well, we.

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01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 5: Better wait because it's too cold right now. Check. But

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01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 5: it'll be warm soon enough, as hard as that is.

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01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 1: To believe, yes, And you know, as we approach, you know,

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01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 1: get through the winter sports season and we look forward

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01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 1: to spring season. Man, we're gonna need officials really in

1217
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 1: every sport, and I love umpiring girls fast pitch softball.

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01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 2: It's either.

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01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 1: Five cups of coffee at baseball on five cups of

1220
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 1: coffee or on steroids.

1221
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 2: That's what we love about softball.

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01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 5: Well, the game does. The game does keep moving a

1223
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 5: little bit faster, and the field is smaller and more compact,

1224
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 5: and everybody keeps moving, so it is a little bit

1225
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 5: of a different game. You're right.

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01:10:56,680 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 1: And with the the advent here of baseball and software,

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01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 1: Paul Man, we're going to need some umpires and really

1228
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 1: in every sport here, Jerry uh spring, summer, fall, and winter,

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01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 1: and uh man with you on today. Let's let's give

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01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 1: the folks out there who have some time a little

1231
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 1: nudge to get out there and really make an impact

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01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 1: on youth.

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01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 5: That's that's correct. And you know, with the economy today,

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01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 5: there's more and more I guess you would call them

1235
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 5: gig jobs available out there, but there's there's probably none

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01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 5: better than than being a high school sports official or

1237
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 5: a youth sports official. There's a lot of opportunities, and UH,

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01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:48,720
Speaker 5: with technology today, we've met it easier and easier. We

1239
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 5: UH offer courses in all of our sports year round.

1240
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 5: Anybody can take a course in any sport at any time.

1241
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 5: They're online and they sign up online and once they've

1242
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 5: completed that course, they are automatically, automatically and immediately I

1243
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 5: should say, referred to a what we call a local

1244
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 5: officials association that helps them get started with additional training

1245
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 5: on the field and things like that. But we have

1246
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 5: an online course to help them with the rules and

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01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 5: the things needed to get started. So it's easy to

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01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 5: get started and you can do it for any sport

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01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 5: at any time, although I would say for our spring sports,

1250
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 5: now is the time because we'll be parts of it.

1251
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 5: Believe we'll be getting started in about seven weeks.

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01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 2: That's exactly right.

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01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:46,320
Speaker 1: And I think what really helps being online, Yes, it

1254
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 1: could help really everyone with their own time. And at

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01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 1: the same time, it's streamlined statewide, the teaching and the training.

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Speaker 5: Everything is done consistently around the state. Everybody gets the

1257
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 5: same training, and it can be done at any time

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01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 5: if you want to. If you want to work on

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01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 5: the course at eleven o'clock at night or three o'clock

1260
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 5: in the morning or in the middle of the afternoon,

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01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 5: you can work on it at any time and and

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01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 5: complete the course. And uh uh so it's on your

1263
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 5: own schedule. Uh, but of course, uh, you've got to

1264
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 5: get started. And like I say, this is a great

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01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 5: time to to start for spring sports because our assigners,

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01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 5: and you know, they're always begging for help, they're looking

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Speaker 5: for more officials. Our assigners are getting into assigning a

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01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 5: lot of their their games for spring sports over over

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Speaker 5: in the course of the next few weeks.

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Speaker 1: And uh, there are some sports that are kind of

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01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:58,480
Speaker 1: morphing into year round deals with girls and boys volleyball.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: The thing I love about softball, you umpire OHSAA games

1274
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 1: in the spring and that bleeds right into summer ball

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01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:14,520
Speaker 1: for USA, U Triple SA, you name it, gosh recreational

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01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 1: softball on weekend nights.

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Speaker 2: So the opportunity is just incredible, Jerry.

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01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 5: Right. Well, as you know, our high school season starts

1279
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 5: the last week of March for softball, and then we

1280
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 5: go right on to from there. Well, our high school

1281
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 5: season ends, the schools are eliminated in the tournament basically

1282
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 5: in the month of May, and in the month of May,

1283
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 5: we're starting the summer ball for instance, USA softball, and

1284
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:53,280
Speaker 5: that goes from May June July. They take a month

1285
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 5: off in August and then they start fallball, which runs

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01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 5: from around l Day till I used to say the

1287
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 5: end of October, but now it's getting into early November,

1288
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 5: so you're right, it's almost year round. The only months

1289
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 5: we're not playing is November, December, January, February. And I

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01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 5: wouldn't want to be playing softball today. So that's that's gooid.

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01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. And Uh, where can folks go to

1292
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 1: really to really get started? And I guess it all

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01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 1: starts at the o h s a a dot org website.

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01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 5: Yes, o h s A dot org. And if they

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01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 5: when they're on that page, they will be able to

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01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 5: click on the in the upper right hand corner there

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01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 5: is a tab or an alignment says officiating. If they

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01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 5: click on that and they just drop down two or

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Speaker 5: three lines, it says become an official, and you go

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Speaker 5: to become an official and gives you the instructions. The

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Speaker 5: instructions are not complicated. There's there's just a few lines

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Speaker 5: of instructions. You enroll in the course. Uh, take a test.

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01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 5: If you don't do well on the test, then you

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01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 5: go back and work on the course a little bit

1305
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 5: harder so you can do well. Enough that uh you'll

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Speaker 5: be successful and uh everything's all done just without starting

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Speaker 5: with those couple of clips.

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Speaker 1: And once again, Jerry Fick is the OHSAA Director of

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Speaker 1: Development for softball Officiating. I'm gonna see Jerry hopefully a

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Speaker 1: couple of times this week. We've got softball meetings at

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01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 1: Princeton High School on Monday night, then the state meeting

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Speaker 1: will be at Lakota West High School on Tuesday night.

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01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 1: And really looking forward to really getting started here, Jerry

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01:16:56,600 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 1: with our meetings and for new officials, you know it,

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01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong, Jerry about a one and

1316
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 1: twenty five dollars like entry fee that that's your you know,

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01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 1: just just to start. You can wipe that out. You

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01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 1: could cover that within less than a day when you're

1319
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 1: umpiring and you can make some serious coin.

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01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 5: Yes, and we try to help people get started as

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01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 5: quickly and economically as possible. The h and you're right.

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01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 5: The we're into what ill all the start of the

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01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 5: meeting season, the pre season, the meeting season, and we'll

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Speaker 5: be out of Princeton High School on Monday night, Lakota

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01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:45,680
Speaker 5: West on Tuesday night. So if there are people that

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01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 5: want to go and just talk about it with some

1327
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:56,680
Speaker 5: experienced officials and get some idea of how much enjoyment

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01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 5: they can get from from doing something like this. Could

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01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 5: come out there to either one of those meetings and

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01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 5: talk to some of the folks. One of the things,

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01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 5: one of the things check I think that's so great

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01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:14,680
Speaker 5: about our officiating program is that, uh, the and this

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01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 5: is all sports, but I say, especially in softball baseball,

1334
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 5: the veteran umpires are so anxious to help and mentor

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01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 5: and and bring along the new people.

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01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 13: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Helping them with things is basic as how to get

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01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 5: games to to the proper positioning signals, handling situations. Uh,

1339
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 5: they're they're just they're just wonderful when it comes to

1340
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 5: helping new people. So uh that's a huge advantage.

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01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 1: And really for first year officials coming out say this year, Uh,

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01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 1: once they go through the OHSAA course, I mean, they

1343
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 1: don't have to attend these local meetings yet.

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01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 2: Uh.

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01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:59,599
Speaker 1: You know, with taking the course, getting certified and then

1346
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 1: get the training that they need, they will they will

1347
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:06,679
Speaker 1: join a local association. But then the meetings for them

1348
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 1: and for us, for the veterans, you have to attend

1349
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:12,719
Speaker 1: four local meetings that are an hour and fifteen minutes

1350
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:16,839
Speaker 1: each and then one state meeting, so basically five meetings

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01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 1: and man, you're ready to go for the season once

1352
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 1: you're a veteran.

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01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 5: Yes, that's correct. And you know, some of our newer

1354
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 5: people come to some of those meetings to try to

1355
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 5: get a little bit more experience, but it's designed to

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01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 5: get you going as quickly as possible.

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01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 1: And wow, speaking of a softball, when you get two

1358
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 1: great pitchers on a warm day, a game can go

1359
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:47,799
Speaker 1: an hour fifteen minutes, maybe an hour and a half,

1360
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 1: and you might have anywhere from seventy to ninety dollars

1361
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 1: in your pocket when all is said and done.

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01:19:55,520 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 5: Right. The fees have come along bid over the last

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01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 5: two or three years, and I think our member schools

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01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 5: are recognizing more and more the fact well I always say,

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01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:14,680
Speaker 5: nobody appreciates good umpires more than the coaches and the

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01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 5: athletic administrators, and they recognize the fact that we need

1367
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 5: to continue to recruit more people, and we've been somewhat

1368
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 5: successful in doing so, but we're still always always looking

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01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 5: for people.

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01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 1: And Jerry, with February fourth being the National Girls and

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01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:38,680
Speaker 1: Women in Sports Day, I'll continue to say it the

1372
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:42,600
Speaker 1: greatest thing to happen to sports, and my lifetime is

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01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 1: title nine.

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01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 5: Well you know, you think about it. We have an

1375
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 5: equal number of sports now in Ohio for both boys

1376
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 5: and girls. I mean, who would have thought even a

1377
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:05,720
Speaker 5: few years ago that we would have girls wrestling and

1378
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 5: boys volleyball, and and of course we we we add sports.

1379
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 5: We have boys and girls lacrosse and uh so there's

1380
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 5: so many, so many sports, and uh, the participation in

1381
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 5: high school athletics across the country has has really grown,

1382
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 5: and and uh with with the young ladies playing ball,

1383
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 5: it's you know, we're going to start to see flag

1384
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 5: football across the country here in the next two or

1385
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 5: three years for the young ladies. So it's just amazing

1386
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:47,759
Speaker 5: how how uh female sports and at the high school

1387
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:51,600
Speaker 5: level of basically double participation.

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01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely skyrocketed. And thousands of girls are playing softball.

1389
01:21:56,920 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 1: We love it and uh just can't wait to get started.

1390
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 1: And I got to tell you real, real quick story, Jerry,

1391
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 1: of something strange that happened to me. I was doing

1392
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 1: a fourteen you friendly uh in a new Carlisle or

1393
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 1: excuse me, Carlisle, Uh, late in the summer, and uh

1394
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:22,360
Speaker 1: the catcher comes out and she goes, Uh, mister rumpire,

1395
01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 1: will you scratch I've got an itch in the top

1396
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 1: right hand corner of my back on my shoulder.

1397
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:29,479
Speaker 2: Could you scratch that?

1398
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 1: So you just never you go to a game, you're

1399
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 1: going to see something you've never seen before, and you

1400
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 1: might do something you never experienced before.

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01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:43,680
Speaker 5: Crazy, you never you never know what to expect, and uh,

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01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 5: you're you're right. The game can go the game, things

1403
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 5: can happen, and the game goes on here, you know,

1404
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 5: year round. And actually, you know, we talked about the

1405
01:22:55,400 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 5: fact that we play out outdoors. I'm almost saw year

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01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 5: we haven't going on at this time year. In softball,

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01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:07,679
Speaker 5: we even have some indoor softball. There's not a tremendous

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01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 5: amount of it because there's not a tremendous amount of facilities,

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01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 5: but those facilities that we have are our full up

1410
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 5: with indoor softball games. I don't know if you're still

1411
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 5: on parting some of that yourself or not.

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01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 1: Checking what it was a few years ago, because I

1413
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 1: did it for like two or three years at a

1414
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 1: place called Forest Hills Country Club and it was a basic,

1415
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 1: you know, an indoor facility in downtown Middletown.

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01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 2: And they would play deep into the night.

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01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:37,759
Speaker 1: And I got off work at WLW at nine o'clock

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01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 1: and I'm mpiron at ten thirty games past midnight, so

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01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 1: with with a softer softball and gosh, a ten you

1420
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 1: team played played that night and they they told me

1421
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 1: that they play one hundred games a year a ten

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01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 1: U team, So just incredible.

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01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 5: These kids love to play and and uh, as I mentioned,

1424
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 5: there's so few of these indoor facilities. With those indoor facilities,

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01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:10,880
Speaker 5: well it's it's kind of like, uh, like the ice

1426
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 5: hockey facilities. Yes, they're they're they're going. They could go

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01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 5: twenty four hours a day almost.

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01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:22,720
Speaker 1: Yes, Well, Jerry, UH really appreciate your time and want

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01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:25,639
Speaker 1: to encourage folks. If you've got the time and you've

1430
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 1: got the energy, you're not only helping yourself here, but

1431
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 1: you're helping youth sports uh in so many different ways,

1432
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 1: being a mentor to uh to some great young athletes.

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01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 5: Right and as as as we mentioned OHSA dot org

1434
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:47,760
Speaker 5: and the top right corner officiating and click on that

1435
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:50,599
Speaker 5: and the second or third line down will be become

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01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 5: an official and that'll take you, uh, take you right

1437
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 5: to it.

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01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 2: Jerry, thank you so much. I look forward to seeing

1439
01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 2: you this week.

1440
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 5: Well, I look forward to seeing you and it was

1441
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 5: great to hear you with the music professor.

1442
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 1: All Right, you thank you so much for listening. I

1443
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 1: really appreciate it.

1444
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 5: All right, Jarrey, Okay, all right, take care.

1445
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:13,639
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

1446
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 1: Before we break for the Top of the Hour, we're

1447
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 1: going to bring in Dennis Janssen after the Top of

1448
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 1: the Hour news. But just a phenomenal time last night

1449
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 1: at the forty ninth annual Elder High School Sports Stag

1450
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 1: seven hundred strong.

1451
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 2: It was a tremendous night.

1452
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:46,640
Speaker 1: Jean Staratur, the national rules observer for CBS Sports for

1453
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 1: the NFL and the NCAA basketball tournament, was the featured speaker.

1454
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:58,400
Speaker 1: And celebrities everywhere. Bengals Joe Walter, Solomon Willcox, Lewis Breeden,

1455
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 1: Barney Bussy were there. Local personalities here are very own

1456
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 1: Moager from iHeartMedia Cincinnati and Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. Both

1457
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:14,520
Speaker 1: James Rapine and his partner Andrew Fox Miller from Cincinnati

1458
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:18,640
Speaker 1: Bengals Talk were there and just a phenomenal night. And

1459
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 1: when we return after the Top of the Hour news,

1460
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:27,280
Speaker 1: Dennis Janssen phenomenal job is the MC retired from WCPOTV

1461
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 1: DJ nineteen sixty eight. Cincinnati. Eldergred just does a great

1462
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:34,639
Speaker 1: job as the MC, and we're gonna break it all

1463
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:37,599
Speaker 1: down when we return. This is Chick lud Wig Sports

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01:26:37,640 --> 01:27:22,679
Speaker 1: Talk seven hundred WLWA, five o nine in the Queen

1465
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 1: City of Cincinnati. Chick Ludwig, seven hundred WLW.

1466
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 2: This is Sports Talk. Joe Waddell is today's producer.

1467
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 1: We're going all the way to six o'clock when Sterling

1468
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 1: takes over these airwaves, all excited about our next guest.

1469
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 1: He may have retired from being a sports anchor at

1470
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:44,720
Speaker 1: WCPOTV in twenty thirteen, but he remains one of the

1471
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 1: most recognizable sports personalities and in demand masters of ceremonies

1472
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 1: in all of Cincinnati. We welcome in the one and

1473
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 1: only Dennis Jansen DJ.

1474
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 2: How are you.

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01:27:57,560 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 7: Check?

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01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 4: You are far too kind and a few been your praise.

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01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:01,840
Speaker 4: Thank you very much.

1478
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 2: Nevertheless, now be so good.

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01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 1: I'm goodsel beautiful, beautiful, was great seeing you last night.

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01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 1: And before we get to the extravaganza at our alma mater,

1481
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Elder High School. Last night early December, you were

1482
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 1: in Jupiter, Florida, helping Johnny Bench celebrate his seventy eighth birthday.

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01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:24,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, indeed I was.

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01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 5: It was quite an event.

1485
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:29,719
Speaker 4: It had a heat Hawk theme owing to the fact

1486
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 4: that Johnny had several appearances on he all back during

1487
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 4: his playing days and he is to this day a

1488
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 4: country in western Mabon. And it was a great time.

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01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:42,720
Speaker 4: It was really, it was very fun. Andy North was

1490
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 4: their golfing friend of his, you know, and because you know,

1491
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 4: Janni used to be a pretty good golfer, but he

1492
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 4: couldn't putt. He could drive in a mile.

1493
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 5: But he.

1494
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 4: Admitted that he just couldn't get the putting down to

1495
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:01,720
Speaker 4: you know, to make it on tour. But yeah, it

1496
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 4: was a great event.

1497
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:03,799
Speaker 5: It was a lovely night.

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01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:07,639
Speaker 4: And all the people that well, Doug Flynn was there,

1499
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 4: Raleigh east Wick was there, let's see Will mcannenny was there.

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01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:17,879
Speaker 4: So there was a good representation of his former teammates

1501
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:19,679
Speaker 4: as well. It was a good time, good time.

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01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like on your Facebook page the photos

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01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:25,519
Speaker 1: he's wearing what a straw hat, He's got his bib

1504
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 1: overalls on and it looks like his wife Carmen pulled

1505
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 1: out all the stops.

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01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 2: Man.

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01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 4: Yes she did. She did a fabulous job organizing and

1508
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 4: executing this thing, and she is an absolute delight. It

1509
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 4: was a great, great time. His son Bobby was there

1510
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 4: with his daughter in law Ketsie, and his grandson Louis

1511
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 4: Jansen Bench was there. He's going to be I guess

1512
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:54,200
Speaker 4: he's about sixteen months old now. And Bobby is now

1513
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:58,240
Speaker 4: residing in Madeira here in Cincinnati and still works for

1514
01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 4: his dance foundation. And you know, it's just my association

1515
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 4: with Johnny goes back to about nineteen sixty nine and

1516
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 4: I couldn't be more more proud of my relationship with him.

1517
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 4: And he's just been a good friend for all these

1518
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:11,759
Speaker 4: many years.

1519
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:12,840
Speaker 2: That is fantastic.

1520
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:15,839
Speaker 1: And last night at our alma mater, you're a sixty

1521
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:18,720
Speaker 1: eight grand of Elder, I'm a seventy two grad and

1522
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:24,840
Speaker 1: to have longtime NCAA basketball and NFL official Gene Steratur

1523
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 1: come in. He's the currently the CBS Network, NFL rules

1524
01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:35,559
Speaker 1: Analyst and NCAA Basketball rules analyst. Just a phenomenal night.

1525
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:37,799
Speaker 1: Like you said, he hit it out of the park.

1526
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:41,160
Speaker 1: And what's it like to stand in front of seven

1527
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:43,639
Speaker 1: hundred people in the Elder Field House.

1528
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 4: Well, you know what chick. It's like this, I don't

1529
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:52,000
Speaker 4: think any of those guys really want to see me fail,

1530
01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:55,080
Speaker 4: so you know, they're going to give me the benefit

1531
01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:57,840
Speaker 4: of the doubt, don't you think. I mean that's you've

1532
01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:00,760
Speaker 4: done this this task before, you've ever seen the stage.

1533
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 4: And it's just it's a very warm, welcoming group and

1534
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:08,920
Speaker 4: you know, everybody's had a few, you know, a few libations,

1535
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 4: and so everybody's in a good mood and they're looking

1536
01:31:11,439 --> 01:31:15,200
Speaker 4: forward to a nice program and the food is always

1537
01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:18,840
Speaker 4: very good and uh, yeah, it's a wonderful thing to

1538
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 4: get get get together. Although last night I was really

1539
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 4: flattered for Jeane that all these guys showed up because

1540
01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:30,599
Speaker 4: it was it was cold last night, it was miserable.

1541
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 4: A lot of people might have been daunted by that,

1542
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:35,840
Speaker 4: but they managed to get out and uh and and

1543
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:38,800
Speaker 4: Jean really treated him to a show. He is a

1544
01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:41,360
Speaker 4: and you had to be in hog Heaven on me

1545
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 4: because you're officiating background. And I just heard, you know,

1546
01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 4: with Jerry Fick, and I think that you know, you

1547
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:52,160
Speaker 4: guys sort of embraced this, uh, this methodology as well

1548
01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:54,680
Speaker 4: as this philosophy of you know, at the end of

1549
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:56,400
Speaker 4: the day, at the end of the game, when you

1550
01:31:56,439 --> 01:31:58,479
Speaker 4: walk away, you don't want people to know that you

1551
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:01,519
Speaker 4: were there, because you called it straight up and you

1552
01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:04,959
Speaker 4: didn't you didn'tmbrace anybody, and you didn't try to diminish

1553
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 4: anybody and embarrass them. And I thought that was one

1554
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:11,479
Speaker 4: of one of the big takeaways from me with Jean says,

1555
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:13,679
Speaker 4: you know, that's what I scribed to do, is walk

1556
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:17,639
Speaker 4: away with nobody really knowing that I was there. I mean,

1557
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:21,720
Speaker 4: it's a wonderful sentiment, and it's not about self aggrandizement,

1558
01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:24,920
Speaker 4: because there are people in those situations that would try

1559
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:28,320
Speaker 4: to put themselves and insinuate them into the story, but

1560
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:29,880
Speaker 4: not Gene and the real pros.

1561
01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:32,519
Speaker 1: We try to keep our mouths shut and our feet moving,

1562
01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:37,839
Speaker 1: that's for sure. But yeah, but from alumni relations director

1563
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:43,040
Speaker 1: Brian Bill, the Stag director Joe lind and Gosh principal

1564
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:47,920
Speaker 1: Kurt Roffing, just incredible And you're right, Jene Sterotaur hit

1565
01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:50,720
Speaker 1: it out of the park. And what really I took

1566
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 1: away from this meant his message the sacrifices that he

1567
01:32:56,439 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 1: had to make in his life to get where he was,

1568
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 1: and like you said, he does not miss it. He

1569
01:33:02,240 --> 01:33:05,400
Speaker 1: does not miss officiating that really struck home for me,

1570
01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:10,280
Speaker 1: and just the sacrifices that he made in his life

1571
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:11,800
Speaker 1: to get to where he was.

1572
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:17,200
Speaker 4: Well and to be on that fine edge with literally

1573
01:33:17,720 --> 01:33:21,840
Speaker 4: hundreds of millions of people watching him officiate a Super Bowl.

1574
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:27,000
Speaker 4: You have to have a certain stealing mentality about that,

1575
01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:30,759
Speaker 4: and the moment can't get too big for you, because

1576
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:34,040
Speaker 4: there is no bigger moment than calling a critical play

1577
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 4: in a Super Bowl or an NCAA basketball tournament game.

1578
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:42,360
Speaker 4: It's and you have to know the rules, obviously, and

1579
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:45,519
Speaker 4: you have to embrace every experience that you've had, and

1580
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:49,720
Speaker 4: you have to codify everything that you've ever seen on

1581
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:54,599
Speaker 4: a football field or a basketball court and just say, Okay,

1582
01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:58,200
Speaker 4: now this may look like this, but could it be

1583
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 4: something else? And then you know, the human mind is

1584
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:04,200
Speaker 4: really pretty remarkable, and those guys get it right more

1585
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:07,200
Speaker 4: often than not, as is attested to by the fact

1586
01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:11,439
Speaker 4: that instant replaying super slow mo instant replay more often

1587
01:34:11,479 --> 01:34:15,320
Speaker 4: than not sustains these decisions made by the officials in

1588
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 4: the heat of the moment.

1589
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:21,800
Speaker 1: And Teddy Jansen's with us and Jean Sterotur was the

1590
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:26,080
Speaker 1: lead referee for a for a couple of controversial calls,

1591
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 1: the uh, the Calvin Johnson catch non catch and the

1592
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:32,360
Speaker 1: des Bryant so uh uh.

1593
01:34:33,479 --> 01:34:34,479
Speaker 2: Just a phenomenal person.

1594
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:38,960
Speaker 1: And I didn't realize he was so close with his mentor,

1595
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:43,679
Speaker 1: Paul Widner, a former university societa basketball player, Elder high

1596
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:48,400
Speaker 1: school grad and he taught us typing as freshman at Elder.

1597
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:52,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I heard from his daughter this afternoon and

1598
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:56,000
Speaker 4: she was very complimentary about something that I said about

1599
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:59,160
Speaker 4: the fall on Facebook. And his son was there last

1600
01:34:59,240 --> 01:35:01,920
Speaker 4: night as well, and it was like old Homi. And

1601
01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:05,800
Speaker 4: fellow by the name of Bob Well used to work

1602
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:10,080
Speaker 4: with Jean's who is also an Elder Grant. He refereed

1603
01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:14,200
Speaker 4: with Jean's dad a generation ago, so he was there

1604
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:16,920
Speaker 4: and wanted to introduce himself to Jane. And it was

1605
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:21,560
Speaker 4: just it was a very warm and familial event. And

1606
01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:26,840
Speaker 4: Gene was funny, he was poignant, he was pointed, He

1607
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 4: really touched all the bases and I couldn't have been

1608
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:32,280
Speaker 4: more pleased to be a part of it.

1609
01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 2: It was wonderful.

1610
01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 1: And Jenny, like you mentioned on your Facebook page, Jeane

1611
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:40,479
Speaker 1: Sterotorus totally grasped the importance of a Catholic secondary education

1612
01:35:41,160 --> 01:35:47,479
Speaker 1: and yeah, his message, Hey, life goes quick and the

1613
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:49,400
Speaker 1: forties you become fifty and sixty.

1614
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:53,240
Speaker 2: I turn around, I'll be seventy two in July. Man.

1615
01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:56,120
Speaker 1: Time flies, man, And like he said, you got to

1616
01:35:56,160 --> 01:36:00,559
Speaker 1: be thankful every day you wake up and just have

1617
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:01,840
Speaker 1: gratitude for each day.

1618
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:08,000
Speaker 4: And he is a very grateful man. He doesn't seem

1619
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:12,040
Speaker 4: to have an arrogant bone in his body, whereas he

1620
01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 4: probably is entitled to lord over some situations because he

1621
01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:18,800
Speaker 4: knows what he's talking about. But I just don't see

1622
01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:20,160
Speaker 4: that he's wired that way.

1623
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:22,679
Speaker 2: You're absolutely right.

1624
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:29,200
Speaker 1: And to tour the Elder News Network facility attached to

1625
01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 1: the Shaper Center.

1626
01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:35,679
Speaker 2: I mean, we didn't have anything like that at Elder

1627
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:37,320
Speaker 2: High School and we went to school there.

1628
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:44,000
Speaker 1: It is a full blown, beautiful facility and dozens of students,

1629
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:49,280
Speaker 1: you know, studying broadcasting and journalism with a spectacular.

1630
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:51,440
Speaker 2: Learning environment.

1631
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:56,479
Speaker 4: Well, Chip, I don't know whether you realize this, but

1632
01:36:56,560 --> 01:36:59,599
Speaker 4: I kind of started my career my senior year at

1633
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:04,439
Speaker 4: Elder High School, my on air career before the final

1634
01:37:04,520 --> 01:37:08,679
Speaker 4: period on Fridays. Father Rudemeller, who was the athletic director,

1635
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:13,960
Speaker 4: was my senior year Latin teacher and he knew that

1636
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:16,640
Speaker 4: I was working at WSAI at the time. I was

1637
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:20,120
Speaker 4: answering the request line and doing a little filled in

1638
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:23,320
Speaker 4: now and then when I could weasel my way onto

1639
01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:27,480
Speaker 4: the air somehow, someway and he asked me to promote

1640
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:31,400
Speaker 4: his All Sports Record Book at the same time, I

1641
01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:35,560
Speaker 4: would announce the Elder Panthers Athletics schedules sports schedule for

1642
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:38,320
Speaker 4: the weekend, and so there was a couple of minutes

1643
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:40,519
Speaker 4: I would go down to the office and get on

1644
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:44,439
Speaker 4: the PA system and announce what was happening Elder and

1645
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:47,360
Speaker 4: Panther wise that weekend. And I would also promote the

1646
01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:51,840
Speaker 4: fact that Father Rudemeller's All Sports Record Book was available,

1647
01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:55,360
Speaker 4: the updated edition was available in the bookstore, and you

1648
01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:57,639
Speaker 4: know on their usual stuff that there were new hats

1649
01:37:57,680 --> 01:38:01,320
Speaker 4: and new sweatshirts available. That was the first time that

1650
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:05,599
Speaker 4: I ever spoke on a regular basis over a public

1651
01:38:05,640 --> 01:38:09,320
Speaker 4: address system or any kind of thing related to broadcasting.

1652
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:12,840
Speaker 4: And that was the start of it for me. And

1653
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:16,280
Speaker 4: to see how far has come, Oh my goodness, gracious,

1654
01:38:16,280 --> 01:38:20,640
Speaker 4: they have a television station, they have it all. It's remarkable.

1655
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:21,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1656
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:25,719
Speaker 1: Gary Rogers as the journalism and broadcasting instructor. Jeff Fuell

1657
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:27,920
Speaker 1: is the director of technology.

1658
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:30,760
Speaker 4: They were all there last night. Great to see them, yep.

1659
01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:31,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1660
01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:34,880
Speaker 1: Adam do Well d u w e Ld a media

1661
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:38,400
Speaker 1: production courator and an elder grad and just awesome.

1662
01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:38,840
Speaker 5: Yep.

1663
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:43,559
Speaker 4: Well. You know, I always hear from Bill Hammer, who

1664
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:46,400
Speaker 4: works in New York at Fox News, and he's always

1665
01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:49,559
Speaker 4: telling me, you know, hey, the Panthers are on tonight

1666
01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:52,439
Speaker 4: or I watched the Panthers last night, and he is

1667
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:57,960
Speaker 4: I mean, and Bill is New York based professional broadcaster

1668
01:38:58,160 --> 01:39:01,720
Speaker 4: and he is duly pressed by the product that the

1669
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:04,479
Speaker 4: Elder News network puts out, as am I. Whenever I

1670
01:39:04,520 --> 01:39:08,120
Speaker 4: watch it, it's really very top It's top shelf high

1671
01:39:08,120 --> 01:39:11,479
Speaker 4: school production doesn't get much better. It's really good, and

1672
01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:14,840
Speaker 4: the facilities are second and done. They really don't short

1673
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:18,559
Speaker 4: change anything there. And the guys, you know, they figure

1674
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:21,880
Speaker 4: out whether they want to be part of this and

1675
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:25,600
Speaker 4: whether they're what role they can fill in a broadcast

1676
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:29,880
Speaker 4: entity and situation, and it's just so valuable to learn

1677
01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:33,400
Speaker 4: at that young age what you might want to gravitate

1678
01:39:33,479 --> 01:39:36,160
Speaker 4: towards is a career. That's what happened to me. I

1679
01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:39,760
Speaker 4: walked into WSAI when I was fifteen, my sophomore year

1680
01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:42,040
Speaker 4: at Elder, and it was like, Yep, this is what

1681
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:44,080
Speaker 4: I want to do. I didn't know what I could do.

1682
01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:46,720
Speaker 4: I didn't know how I was going to do it,

1683
01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:48,400
Speaker 4: but I just wanted to be part of it. And

1684
01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:49,599
Speaker 4: boy did it work out.

1685
01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:51,120
Speaker 7: It was a miracle for.

1686
01:39:51,160 --> 01:39:54,240
Speaker 1: Me, fantastic and it was great seeing some Bengals there

1687
01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:58,360
Speaker 1: last night, Joe Walter, Solomon, will Cox, Lewis Breeden, Barney

1688
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:01,960
Speaker 1: Bussy and then our very own Moeger along with James

1689
01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:05,640
Speaker 1: Repea and Andrew Fox Miller from Cincinnati Bengals Talk. So

1690
01:40:06,040 --> 01:40:10,120
Speaker 1: a star started lineup and can't thank the Elder community.

1691
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:13,400
Speaker 1: And I said it on my Facebook page. When it

1692
01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:16,519
Speaker 1: comes to school spirit, to me, Elder is one of

1693
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:17,559
Speaker 1: one period.

1694
01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:22,799
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. They are pretty unique, and they are proud

1695
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:27,040
Speaker 4: of their heritage, and they are looking to the future obviously,

1696
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:35,920
Speaker 4: and they have just in terms of an alumni base, Chick,

1697
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:40,040
Speaker 4: you think of the depth and breadth of the Elder

1698
01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:44,040
Speaker 4: experience in terms of careers for people that have come

1699
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:48,800
Speaker 4: out of Elder High School, they populate every nook and

1700
01:40:48,920 --> 01:40:53,000
Speaker 4: cranny of American society, and some of them obviously even

1701
01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:57,640
Speaker 4: work overseas. It's amazing the experiences that Elder alums have

1702
01:40:58,439 --> 01:41:02,639
Speaker 4: and they contributed mightily to the world of this betterment. Yeah,

1703
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:06,200
Speaker 4: I'm very flattered who have been associated with Elder. And

1704
01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:10,519
Speaker 4: I had four years of perfect attendance, so I'm proud

1705
01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 4: of that. And I had one demerit, and Principal Kurt

1706
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:18,160
Speaker 4: Ruppings had last night that he has expunged that one

1707
01:41:18,240 --> 01:41:22,519
Speaker 4: demerit that I suffered back in about nineteen sixty seven.

1708
01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:25,240
Speaker 4: So I am now free and clear. I'm a free man.

1709
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:29,519
Speaker 1: That is fantastic. I got through with zero demerits. I

1710
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:32,040
Speaker 1: might have missed a day or two. I can't even remember.

1711
01:41:32,439 --> 01:41:35,400
Speaker 1: But before we leave, I want to congratulate doctor j

1712
01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 1: Les Gang from my class of seventy two receiving the

1713
01:41:39,080 --> 01:41:42,559
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five Altiora Award from Elder.

1714
01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:44,320
Speaker 2: It's the highest award.

1715
01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:48,920
Speaker 1: For public service in private life in pursuit of the

1716
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:51,639
Speaker 1: higher things, the highest award given by the school.

1717
01:41:52,040 --> 01:41:56,800
Speaker 2: And yeah, he deserved. He's a great man, he truly is.

1718
01:41:57,120 --> 01:42:01,200
Speaker 1: And so are you, DJ Man. Always fun to hook up,

1719
01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:02,960
Speaker 1: tremendous knowledge.

1720
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:03,960
Speaker 5: Thank you very much.

1721
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:06,000
Speaker 4: I appreciate you giving me the time.

1722
01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:06,800
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1723
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:09,640
Speaker 4: And and I was talking and I was talking with

1724
01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:11,920
Speaker 4: your brother last night and he is awfully proud of

1725
01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:13,160
Speaker 4: you and your accomplishments.

1726
01:42:13,320 --> 01:42:17,400
Speaker 1: Well, sincerely appreciate that. DJ always a pleasure. Thanks so much,

1727
01:42:17,439 --> 01:42:19,880
Speaker 1: and we'll see you down the road.

1728
01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:22,760
Speaker 4: Thank you, great weekend, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right, we uh we've basically reached

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Speaker 1: the bottom of the hour break here and when we

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Speaker 1: come back, we're going to go out to Phoenix, Arizona

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Speaker 1: for a success story and it involves the sport of golf.

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Speaker 1: When we return, This is Sports Talk with your host

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Speaker 1: Chick Ludwig and tonight's producer Shoeless Joe Waddell on seven

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Speaker 1: hundred WLW.

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Speaker 2: Five thirty eight in the Queen City of Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: Chick Ludwig, seven hundred WLW, this is Sports Talk. We're

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01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:02,519
Speaker 1: going all the way to six o'clock and that's when

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01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:06,760
Speaker 1: Sterling takes over these airwaves. Well, I love a success

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01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:10,400
Speaker 1: story and I've certainly got one now to top off

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01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:14,759
Speaker 1: our show, our next guest graduated from Miamisburg High School

1742
01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:18,840
Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen. He caddied throughout his high school days

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01:43:19,240 --> 01:43:23,760
Speaker 1: at Moraine Country Club in Dayton, and then he graduated

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01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:28,520
Speaker 1: from Eastern Kentucky University in twenty nineteen through their professional

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01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:32,960
Speaker 1: golf Management program, and now he is the head golf

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01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:38,200
Speaker 1: pro at Papago Golf Club in Phoenix, Arizona. It's cold outside,

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01:43:38,439 --> 01:43:41,519
Speaker 1: there's snow and ice on the ground, so let's warm up.

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Speaker 1: Let's go out and welcome in our good friend, Zach Amsler.

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Speaker 5: Zach, how are you, great, chick?

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01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:52,760
Speaker 6: How are you ruful? Sunny day out here in Arizona?

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01:43:52,760 --> 01:43:54,400
Speaker 6: About eighty degrees out here today.

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01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:55,920
Speaker 2: Oh, you're killing us here.

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01:43:56,920 --> 01:43:57,200
Speaker 7: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Would love to be out there, Gosh, taking your bag

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01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:06,200
Speaker 1: and caddying for you this afternoon, Zach, But wow, can

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01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:10,799
Speaker 1: you take us really? Talk about your journey from caddy

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01:44:11,160 --> 01:44:12,560
Speaker 1: to club professional?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so I started about fourteen years old as a caddy,

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01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:21,880
Speaker 6: like you said, at Marine, worked there through high school,

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01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:25,960
Speaker 6: did the golf management program edie Ku. That took me

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01:44:26,040 --> 01:44:30,840
Speaker 6: to NCR Country Club in Ohio, from there to Katava

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01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:35,720
Speaker 6: Island Club and Friendslick Resort there in the Midwest, and

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01:44:35,760 --> 01:44:38,000
Speaker 6: then was looking for a year round gig. Made my

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Speaker 6: way out to Phoenix and then I've been here Papago

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01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:46,000
Speaker 6: Golf Club now going on five years. From assistant golf

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01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:49,200
Speaker 6: professional tournament director and for the last two years as

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Speaker 6: a head pro.

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Speaker 1: Wow Papa Go Golf Club. It has become the home

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Speaker 1: course for the Arizona State Sun Devils men's and women's

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Speaker 1: golf teams.

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Speaker 2: Is that correct, Yes, sir.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we're super fortnate and lucky to have them call

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Speaker 6: Papago home. And we've got a great facility here of

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01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:13,720
Speaker 6: championship golf that's open to the public in just a

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Speaker 6: few minutes from the airport.

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Speaker 1: Can you kind of paint the picture of what it's

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01:45:19,360 --> 01:45:25,240
Speaker 1: like to, you know, a visual of your golf club, gosh,

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Speaker 1: with the mountains in the backgrounds, the blue skies, oh man,

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01:45:28,880 --> 01:45:31,680
Speaker 1: and give folks a taste of what it's like to

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Speaker 1: be out there in the desert range at night.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: We're just.

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Speaker 6: At the bottom of the backdrop of the Papago Butte

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Speaker 6: a couple miles from the airport, kind of wedged right

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Speaker 6: in between Scottsdale and Tempe, Arizona, where the pretty much

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Speaker 6: the closest course that you can get to the Phoenix airport.

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Speaker 6: So we've got tons of local folks who call this

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Speaker 6: place home as well as golfers from all over the

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01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:02,320
Speaker 6: country may be coming in for the waste management or

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01:46:02,360 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 6: just coming to get out of the snow, like to

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Speaker 6: come call our place home for a few days.

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Speaker 1: So Zach Amsler is with us and you can follow

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01:46:12,280 --> 01:46:17,880
Speaker 1: him on Twitter at styx sty X Underscore. Amsler a

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01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:21,240
Speaker 1: ms L e R. And we definitely have something in common.

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Speaker 1: We wouldn't be where we are today without the great

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Speaker 1: sport of golf. I was lucky enough to caddy at

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Speaker 1: Western Hills Country Club, earn the Evans Scholarship to the

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Speaker 1: Ohio State University, majored in journalism and that it all

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Speaker 1: got me where I am today. And manned, Zach, you

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01:46:36,479 --> 01:46:38,800
Speaker 1: got to be so thankful for this great game. And

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01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:42,960
Speaker 1: what did caddying at Marine Country Club teach you as

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01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:44,960
Speaker 1: a golfer and as a person.

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01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:49,720
Speaker 6: You know, the caddy gig is a great job for

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01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:55,720
Speaker 6: anny young up and coming boy or gal teaches you

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01:46:55,800 --> 01:47:01,080
Speaker 6: plenty of life lessons as for anything from responsibility to etiquette.

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01:47:01,960 --> 01:47:06,040
Speaker 6: And it also you know, it's a great sport of camaraderie.

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01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:10,719
Speaker 6: You get to meet so many great people. Brent Site,

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01:47:11,080 --> 01:47:13,759
Speaker 6: it's been a long head golf professional day at Moraine

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01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:18,479
Speaker 6: and just super fortunate uh to be able to work there.

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01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:21,479
Speaker 6: Uh for as long as I did, and really inspired

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Speaker 6: me to get into business where I am now.

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Speaker 1: And Zach, there's so much more than just gosh golfing

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Speaker 1: is a head golf professional. What are all the activities

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Speaker 1: in addition to teaching that you're involved in.

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Speaker 6: We've got quite a lot going on here at papagill

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Speaker 6: anywhere from banquet events. We've obviously got the college team

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01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:50,120
Speaker 6: that calls Papa Go Home as well, but we've got

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01:47:50,160 --> 01:47:53,320
Speaker 6: a full restaurant, bar and grill to where any if

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01:47:53,360 --> 01:47:55,800
Speaker 6: you were to come out this afternoon of Papa Goo,

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01:47:55,920 --> 01:47:59,200
Speaker 6: you'd see kids running around the lawn, a full practice team,

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Speaker 6: golfers on on the tea everywhere. We've got a banklet

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01:48:03,320 --> 01:48:05,519
Speaker 6: event going on, so a little bit of everything. It's

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Speaker 6: it's always a happening day out here at Papaco.

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01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:11,320
Speaker 1: Well, it's got to be a gosh just the heaven

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01:48:11,439 --> 01:48:14,280
Speaker 1: for UH for folks wanting to escape the winners here

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Speaker 1: in the Midwest.

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Speaker 2: UH.

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Speaker 1: And how about this coming week here with the waste

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Speaker 1: Management Phoenix open UH coming soon to UH this week

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Speaker 1: to to your to your area.

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Speaker 6: We're super excited. It's one of our busiest weeks of

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01:48:34,439 --> 01:48:38,040
Speaker 6: the year out here in Phoenix. There's well over half

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01:48:38,080 --> 01:48:41,280
Speaker 6: a million people that come into town to go watch

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01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:47,960
Speaker 6: the golf. TPC Scottsdale is a great host, uh, and

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Speaker 6: they just host an excellent event over the next week

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Speaker 6: or so. And it's not just the golf. They've got

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Speaker 6: concerts and all sorts going on pretty much every day, uh,

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Speaker 6: starting on month.

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Speaker 1: So, and is there some spill over to Papago Golf

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Speaker 1: Club from Scottsdale.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely absolutely. We've got plenty of buddies, trips, spschlor parties,

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01:49:13,520 --> 01:49:15,840
Speaker 6: the whole deal. If they're not up there at the

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01:49:15,840 --> 01:49:19,519
Speaker 6: waste management, they're usually golfing somewhere somewhere in the valley

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Speaker 6: and we're happy to host many of those groups.

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Speaker 2: So wonderful.

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Speaker 1: Now, your your father, Chris, is a firefighter and your mom, Michelle,

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Speaker 1: is a teacher at Miamisburg Middle School. What kind of

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01:49:34,840 --> 01:49:36,920
Speaker 1: impact did they have on your golf career?

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Speaker 6: A huge impact. My dad, my grandfather, had been golfing

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Speaker 6: since well before I was born. They've had me in

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01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:50,519
Speaker 6: between them and the golf cart for a number of years.

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Speaker 6: And my dad's out here now, so we've had a

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Speaker 6: chance to do some golfing this week and we're gonna

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01:49:55,880 --> 01:49:58,519
Speaker 6: looking forward to going and taking in the tournament next

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Speaker 6: week as well. So they I have had a huge,

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Speaker 6: huge impact on my life. So I'm super thankful for everything.

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Speaker 2: They've done well.

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Speaker 1: And I wanted to ask you, is Chris and Michelle

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Speaker 1: out there for this coming week's activities.

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Speaker 6: Yes, my dad's. Dad's out here. Unfortunately, mom's back home

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01:50:19,400 --> 01:50:21,320
Speaker 6: supposed to be teaching. I know they're under a bunch

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Speaker 6: of snow this week. They're in the Dayton area, so

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Speaker 6: school is closed, but she's still back in Miamisburg while

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Speaker 6: dad is out here and enjoying the enjoying the sunshine.

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Speaker 2: Now we all love golf, Zach.

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Speaker 1: At the same time, there's a whole bunch of baseball

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Speaker 1: teams that train in the Cacus Cactus League out there

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01:50:43,280 --> 01:50:45,880
Speaker 1: in the spring. Do you keep an eye on that

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Speaker 1: and you keep an eye on the Cincinnati Reds?

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Speaker 2: It all.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely. I try and catch as many of the Reds

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Speaker 6: games out here. They're a little bit of a drive

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Speaker 6: out in Goodyear, Arizona from where we're at on the

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01:50:59,600 --> 01:51:03,960
Speaker 6: east side to Phoenix, but them and the Guardians share

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01:51:04,240 --> 01:51:08,679
Speaker 6: the Goodyear Ballpark out there on the west side, and

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Speaker 6: we try and catch a few games looking forward to

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Speaker 6: what hopefully should be a really good year.

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Speaker 1: How difficult is golf in in Arizona with the gosh,

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01:51:20,520 --> 01:51:23,280
Speaker 1: with the heat, and they call it the dry heat.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine the sun, the moon and the stars. Man,

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01:51:28,200 --> 01:51:30,560
Speaker 1: what is golf like in Arizona?

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Speaker 6: Golf here is it really depends on the time of year.

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01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:39,680
Speaker 6: You know, in the winter, this time of year is

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Speaker 6: not too different within the summers back home, you're able

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01:51:43,040 --> 01:51:49,799
Speaker 6: to enjoy good weather now when it gets into the summer, however,

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01:51:49,840 --> 01:51:53,639
Speaker 6: those one hundred and ten plus t treaty days get

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01:51:53,680 --> 01:51:56,680
Speaker 6: pretty brutal. We don't get nearly as much play as

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01:51:56,680 --> 01:51:59,679
Speaker 6: you can imagine. It's all about making sure you stay

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01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:04,160
Speaker 6: hide rated. But if you can bear the heat, it's

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01:52:04,240 --> 01:52:08,839
Speaker 6: well worth it in my opinion, and just super thankful

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01:52:09,520 --> 01:52:12,120
Speaker 6: for everything that we've you know, got out here. And

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01:52:12,400 --> 01:52:15,360
Speaker 6: there's twenty golf a little over one hundred and twenty

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01:52:15,439 --> 01:52:18,920
Speaker 6: courses that have public access here in the Phoenix Valley.

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01:52:18,720 --> 01:52:20,240
Speaker 2: So incredible.

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01:52:20,240 --> 01:52:23,400
Speaker 1: And how late in the day, say, in the summers,

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01:52:23,520 --> 01:52:24,599
Speaker 1: can can folks golf?

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01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:30,920
Speaker 6: The sun rises about five am in the summer and

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01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:33,599
Speaker 6: it sets about just after eight o'clock, so we've got

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01:52:33,640 --> 01:52:36,040
Speaker 6: a really really long day golf. You'll see a lot

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01:52:36,120 --> 01:52:38,920
Speaker 6: of people try and get here right as the sun rises.

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01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:40,960
Speaker 6: That way you can get off the golf course before

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01:52:41,720 --> 01:52:45,719
Speaker 6: it gets too hot. But a good ninety ninety five

1904
01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:50,280
Speaker 6: degree day here in the summer is beautiful compared obviously

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01:52:50,320 --> 01:52:51,640
Speaker 6: to back home with the humidity.

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Speaker 1: But and Zach amsbers with us. He's been a PGA

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01:52:55,720 --> 01:52:59,080
Speaker 1: member since twenty twenty. And once again you can follow

1908
01:52:59,160 --> 01:53:03,640
Speaker 1: him on Twitter at sticks s t y X underscore

1909
01:53:03,880 --> 01:53:08,520
Speaker 1: Amsler And I like that handle there, Zach, uh huh.

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01:53:08,600 --> 01:53:09,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And do you get to play much with with your

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01:53:11,840 --> 01:53:12,559
Speaker 1: busy schedule?

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Speaker 13: I do.

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Speaker 6: I try and get out once or twice a week

1915
01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:21,799
Speaker 6: right now with my dad out here in the valley

1916
01:53:22,320 --> 01:53:25,599
Speaker 6: doing we're playing a little bit of a golf while

1917
01:53:25,640 --> 01:53:30,800
Speaker 6: he's here, hoping to take him out to a few courses.

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Speaker 6: And but yeah, I try and do some teaching, do

1919
01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:38,439
Speaker 6: a little bit of playing as much as I can.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, And how many instructors are at Papago.

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Speaker 6: So we've got three total instructors to full time. And

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01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:56,200
Speaker 6: then myself, who does a little bit of teaching obviously

1923
01:53:56,280 --> 01:53:57,240
Speaker 6: is running the.

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Speaker 4: Operation as well.

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01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:03,040
Speaker 1: That is fantastic and it truly is a success story

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01:54:03,080 --> 01:54:07,720
Speaker 1: once again. Miamisburg High School twenty fifteen, Eastern Kentucky University

1927
01:54:08,200 --> 01:54:13,040
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. Caddy during his high school years at a

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01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:18,080
Speaker 1: beautiful Moraine Country Club. And I never thought, Zach, that

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01:54:18,120 --> 01:54:20,680
Speaker 1: I could love a country club as much as my

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01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:24,400
Speaker 1: home course, Western Hills in Cincinnati until I walked onto Moraine.

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Speaker 1: That it is a truly special place in Dayton.

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Speaker 6: They've done a great job. I know, they did a

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01:54:32,200 --> 01:54:36,200
Speaker 6: rearmodel shortly after I stopped catting there, and I believe

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Speaker 6: it's still a top one hundred facility in the United States.

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Speaker 6: But they've done an incredible job and it's just a

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01:54:44,400 --> 01:54:47,480
Speaker 6: perfect landscape in the Dayton area, and they should be.

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Speaker 6: You know, we're really proud to be able to have

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01:54:50,920 --> 01:54:55,280
Speaker 6: something like Moraine and INCR really right next door in

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01:54:55,360 --> 01:54:56,120
Speaker 6: our backyard.

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Speaker 2: So no doubt about that.

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01:54:57,480 --> 01:55:02,080
Speaker 1: In cr country Club South Course, a championship course right

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01:55:02,120 --> 01:55:05,560
Speaker 1: next to the beautiful Marine Country Club. And Zach, you've

1943
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Speaker 1: reached your goal of becoming a head golf professional at

1944
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Speaker 1: Papago Golf Club in Phoenix. Gosh, what else do you

1945
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Speaker 1: want to do with your life?

1946
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Speaker 6: I you know, I really just love the golf business.

1947
01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:24,560
Speaker 6: Would eventually like to work my way into becoming a

1948
01:55:24,640 --> 01:55:28,120
Speaker 6: high end director at golf here in the Valley or

1949
01:55:28,160 --> 01:55:31,080
Speaker 6: possibly elsewhere. But at the end of the end of

1950
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Speaker 6: the day, I just love being able to share my

1951
01:55:33,320 --> 01:55:37,560
Speaker 6: passion of golf with others, whether that's teaching or helping

1952
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:41,040
Speaker 6: you know, someone have a great day on the course

1953
01:55:41,120 --> 01:55:45,200
Speaker 6: of bringing great memories to fathers and sons like I've

1954
01:55:45,200 --> 01:55:47,200
Speaker 6: had the opportunity to do with my dad.

1955
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Speaker 1: So well, beautiful and can you give us any more

1956
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Speaker 1: information on the waste Management Phoenix Open that's coming up

1957
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Speaker 1: this week at in Scottsdale at the TPC.

1958
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it should be a great week. Looking we're looking

1959
01:56:06,520 --> 01:56:11,160
Speaker 6: at low eighties high seventies degree weather, which is a

1960
01:56:11,440 --> 01:56:13,960
Speaker 6: nice change from the last couple of years. In the

1961
01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:15,680
Speaker 6: past we've had a little bit of frost and a

1962
01:56:15,680 --> 01:56:18,920
Speaker 6: little bit of rain. So looking forward to a great week.

1963
01:56:19,720 --> 01:56:23,360
Speaker 6: It's gonna be hard to beat Scottie Scheffler. He seems

1964
01:56:23,400 --> 01:56:24,920
Speaker 6: to still be on a little bit of a role

1965
01:56:24,960 --> 01:56:28,760
Speaker 6: and he's a two time winner there. But looking forward

1966
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:31,320
Speaker 6: to a great week and hopefully some great great golf.

1967
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Speaker 1: And lastly, here Zach the waste management open is kind

1968
01:56:35,800 --> 01:56:41,000
Speaker 1: of unique. I mean, fans cheer, they go crazy, especially

1969
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Speaker 1: on that par three. Is that something that you've It's

1970
01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:48,160
Speaker 1: kind of unusual at other courses.

1971
01:56:50,160 --> 01:56:53,800
Speaker 6: Absolutely unusual, certainly one way to put it. I've been

1972
01:56:53,840 --> 01:56:56,000
Speaker 6: fortunate enough to be in the They refer to it

1973
01:56:56,040 --> 01:57:00,560
Speaker 6: as the Coliseum of golf there at the Part three sixteenth,

1974
01:57:00,600 --> 01:57:04,240
Speaker 6: But it's really unlike anything else in the professional golf landscape,

1975
01:57:05,120 --> 01:57:10,680
Speaker 6: and they've created an awesome atmosphere and I think players,

1976
01:57:10,840 --> 01:57:13,160
Speaker 6: you know, give an opportunity to enjoy a little bit

1977
01:57:13,160 --> 01:57:16,440
Speaker 6: of different, different style of golf one week of the year,

1978
01:57:16,520 --> 01:57:19,360
Speaker 6: and the Thunderbirds who put on the event do a

1979
01:57:19,360 --> 01:57:24,240
Speaker 6: great job of making that happen. And once again, obviously

1980
01:57:24,320 --> 01:57:27,640
Speaker 6: just looking forward to a great week of golf up

1981
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Speaker 6: there in Scott Still.

1982
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Speaker 1: Well, Zach Amsler, Gosh can't thank you enough for taking

1983
01:57:31,720 --> 01:57:34,200
Speaker 1: time out of your schedule to join us and really

1984
01:57:34,240 --> 01:57:37,320
Speaker 1: appreciate you. And please say hi to Chris and Michelle

1985
01:57:37,360 --> 01:57:41,200
Speaker 1: for me, and just have a great week this coming week,

1986
01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:44,000
Speaker 1: And thanks so much for being Gosh the head golf

1987
01:57:44,040 --> 01:57:48,000
Speaker 1: pro at Papago Golf Club in Phoenix, Arizona, home of

1988
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Speaker 1: the Awesome Sun Devils.

1989
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Speaker 6: Thank you, Chrick, pleasure being here.

1990
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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, appreciate you all right, and as

1991
01:57:57,840 --> 01:57:59,720
Speaker 1: we wind up the show here, I want to thank

1992
01:57:59,800 --> 01:58:04,680
Speaker 1: our guests today Jim Lebarbara the music professor talking about

1993
01:58:04,760 --> 01:58:10,520
Speaker 1: Kim Wood, the late great Kim Wood, the strengthened conditioning

1994
01:58:10,560 --> 01:58:14,400
Speaker 1: coach of the Cincinnati Bengals. Jerry Fick, the director of

1995
01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:20,760
Speaker 1: Softball Officiating Development for the Ohio High School Athletic Association,

1996
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Speaker 1: the great Dennis Jansson DJ just did a phenomenal job

1997
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Speaker 1: last night as the MC at the forty ninth Annual

1998
01:58:29,200 --> 01:58:32,960
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Elder High School Sports Stag. And then right there

1999
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Speaker 1: Zach Amsler, head golf professional at Papago Golf Club in Phoenix, Arizona.

2000
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Speaker 1: And until next time. Also want to thank tonight's producer

2001
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Speaker 1: Joe Waddell. And until next time, this is the Chickster

2002
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Speaker 1: Chick Ludwig saying thanks for listening to the Home of

2003
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Speaker 1: the Reds and the best Bengals coverage seven hundred WLW