1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:05,359 Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike, Cincy three sixty about Cincinnati. 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 2: From Cincinnati. 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 3: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: All right, here we go. It's our number three on 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: the eve of the eve of Opening Day on ESPN 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Thank you for joining us. 7 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: Thank you for hanging out with on a big day. 8 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: We've still got more on the Cincinnati Reds to get 9 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: to here in our number three. On top of that, 10 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: a little a little NFL. Did you see what tom 11 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: Pellisero tweeted out yesterday Austin. 12 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 4: What did Tommy p have to say? 13 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: I like Tommy, but he sent out a tweet and 14 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: I thought for sure that this was fake. He tweeted 15 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: Jordan Hudson, we'll have dinner with the Cowboys officials. Per sources, Hudson, 16 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: the former SMU receiver who is not related to Bill 17 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: belichick girlfriend, clocked a four four eight forty yard dash 18 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: to today's workout, caught twenty one touchdown passes over four seasons. 19 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: Are we at the point where we've got to clear 20 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: if there's a relation to Bill Belichick's. 21 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 4: Girlfriend, Well, they have the exact same name. Okay, so 22 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 4: I think that's the big thing that they have the 23 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 4: exact same name. 24 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: I gotcha, So I gotcha. That's fair enough. 25 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, anyway, which a lot of people care about that 26 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 4: for some reason. 27 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what's happening across the National Football League. What's 28 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: happening here in Cincinnati is vastly different. It's a new 29 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 1: dawn and a new day here for the UC Bearcatz. 30 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: Jared Calhoun is the newest coach of the Cincinnati Bearcats. 31 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: And to help shed some light on that and really 32 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: how this came together is really Austin, a friend of 33 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: the show who's been with us for quite a long time. Yes, 34 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: we don't have a chance to talk to him as 35 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: much because he's just now on the national stage's Hollywood 36 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: man instead of just this Cincinnati bubble, but yet kind 37 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: enough to give us some of his time today. Our 38 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: good friend Justin Williams is with us. Hello, Justin, how 39 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: are you guys? Always an honor, never too big time 40 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: for you, Justin? How are things going for you? I'm 41 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: doing great. 42 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: So I was in I was in Philadelphia for the 43 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 2: first and second round this past weekend, still sweating out 44 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: some of the cheese steaks, and then I'm heading to 45 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: Chicago for. 46 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: The for the sixteen and Elite eight this weekend. Nice. 47 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: Now Sandwiched in the middle of all of that is 48 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: the news here locally at the University of Cincinnati. Jared 49 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:35,119 Speaker 1: Calhoun named the next coach of the Bearcats. You had 50 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: this yesterday, And what I think makes this interesting, you 51 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: don't really see this as much with coaching searches today. 52 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: You heard really one name at the forefront all along. 53 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: It wasn't like people really ventured off the name of 54 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: Jared Calhoun. You hear the occasional maybe this guy, maybe that, 55 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: But from the get go, once it wasn't Wes Miller. 56 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: You got to get Jared Calhoun. How did the Bearcats 57 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: land Calhoun? And kind of the timing problem sin stuff 58 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: went into it. 59 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, sometimes the obvious name is obvious 60 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 2: for a reason, right Jared Calhoun. You know, he had 61 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: the history Cincinnati grad. He was in kind of that 62 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 2: position of up and coming, you know, mid major coach, 63 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: had done a really good job at Utah State for 64 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: two years. So even outside of the Bob Huggan connection 65 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: and the history of Cincinnati, like he had earned this 66 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: opportunity because what he had done at Utah State the 67 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: past couple of years, and I you know, sometimes again 68 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: I think it just works out timing wise. I don't 69 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: really think there was much of a search here, to 70 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: be honest, I think it was this is a guy 71 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: who deserves this opportunity based on what he's done, and 72 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: I think he wanted the job, and so they had 73 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: to do some of the things with Wes Miller in 74 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 2: terms of getting to a contract settlement, and honestly that 75 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: worked out for Wes Miller. 76 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: We saw he took the Charlotte. 77 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: Job, so you know, get some of the timing things 78 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 2: figured out, move on from West Miller officially, Wes Miller 79 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: goes and gets the Charlotte job. Jared Calhoun, you know, 80 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: he was in the tournament. Utah State won the first 81 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: round against Villanova. It would be, you know, maybe Cincinnati 82 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: was kind of rooting against the State a little bit 83 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: against against Arizona. Might have had to pull out the 84 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: check book one more time that if they got an 85 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: upset against the number one scene in that region. But 86 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 2: I think as soon as that season kind of ended, 87 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 2: it was it was a very quick move to UH 88 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: to get in Jared Calhoun back home to Cincinnati. 89 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: You know, I wonder justin when you look at the 90 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: move and you look at how this transpired history is 91 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,799 Speaker 1: so important here in Cincinnati, And we said this earlier, 92 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: we had Joe Danmon on it. It feels like the 93 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: way people talk about Bob Huggins, he was the coach 94 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: here last year. I mean, people just are still Huggins era, 95 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: in the Mick Cronin era. So it's one thing to 96 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: pluck a coach that understands all of that. If you 97 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: would remove all of that and the ties to Cincinnati, 98 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: would Jared Calhoun still be the number one option out there? 99 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: Just based on his resume alone, he would definitely be 100 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: at the top. But you know, I think there were. 101 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: Specifically two kind of really high level coaching carousel candidates. 102 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: Josh Shirts at Saint Louis was one that, you know, 103 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 2: any job that opened up or might have opened up, 104 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 2: you heard Josh Shirts his name kind of mentioned around. 105 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,239 Speaker 1: He actually signed an extension with Saint Louis. 106 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: I think he, you know, could maybe still be in 107 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 2: the mix of something crazy happens for another job, but 108 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: he's made it pretty clear that he's happy there, he 109 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,119 Speaker 2: wants to stick. And then usually right behind shirts. Jared 110 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 2: Calhoun was the next man mentioned for a lot of jobs. 111 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: You know, he I think Kansas State was interested in Calhoun, 112 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 2: and from what I understand Calhoun, you know, whether he 113 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 2: you know, turned down any interest or or there was 114 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: even you know, got much into that situation. I think 115 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: Calhoun made it clear like that wasn't where he was looking. 116 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 2: If he was going to make a move, it was 117 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 2: going to beat to Cincinnati. And so I think there 118 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 2: were a lot of places that would have come calling 119 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 2: for Jared Calhoun, or Cincinnati would have come colin whether 120 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: he had Cincinnati on his his resume, his alma mater. 121 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: So definitely, Again, it was just one of those kind 122 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 2: of like perfect storms, perfect match, perfect timing, ideal fit, 123 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 2: and you know, you give Cincinnati and John Cunningham credit 124 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: for making it happen, but it was one of those 125 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 2: that it was kind of like too obvious to miss. 126 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: It also felt when the details about the contract came 127 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: out today, six years, three point seven million in the 128 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: upcoming season, one hundred thousand dollars escalator each year. But 129 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't feel for a coach that is wanted in 130 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: the caliber of Calhoun and his trajectory It doesn't feel 131 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: like they had to get into a bidding war. It 132 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: doesn't feel like they had to overpay for the services 133 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: of Jared Calhoun. 134 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 2: Here, No, I don't think so. I think Wes Miller 135 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: was scheduled to make three point two million next season, 136 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 2: so kind of in line with that, probably in the 137 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 2: bottom half still of Big twelve coaches. But again, I 138 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 2: think this is a situation where Jared Calhoun wanted this job. 139 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,239 Speaker 2: I think he made it pretty clear to whoever needed 140 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 2: to know that he wanted this job. 141 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: And I think Cincinnati wanted to hire Jared Calhoun. 142 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 2: And so I'm sure you obviously have to do your negotiations, 143 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: and you know, you want to get some assurances on 144 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 2: both sides and all parties involved. But I don't think 145 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: that it was one of those things where this was 146 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 2: like a knockdown, drag out negotiation. It seems like it all, 147 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 2: you know, went pretty fast and went pretty smooth because 148 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: both parties were really interested details. 149 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: Now you know, there's a GM in place in Corey 150 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: Evans that was brought in last year under Wes Miller, 151 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: who still has a contract. How do things like that 152 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: now sort themselves out? With Corey Evans and then the 153 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: type of staff he's going to be putting together, I 154 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: would assume in the next couple of days. 155 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know the specifics on Evans contract. I 156 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: don't necessarily, you know, I think for a lot of 157 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: these assistant coaches or staffers, when the head coach is 158 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: no longer with the program, whether they're fighter, they're moved on, 159 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 2: that you know, don't necessarily have to continue those those contracts. 160 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: I think that might be the case with Corey Evans. 161 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 2: Now, if Jared Calhoun wants them to stay in place, 162 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: or the administration wants them to stay in place, I'm 163 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: sure that can happen too, But I don't know that 164 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 2: it's necessarily an obligation that Corey Evans will stay in place. 165 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: So my guess is, like the you know happens with 166 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: most of these transitions, that Calhoun will get in and 167 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: he'll have his salary allotment for a staff, and he'll 168 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: bring in the guys that he wants to and you know, 169 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: if that means like keeping a Mike Raefelt, you know, 170 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: who's been with the program for a long time and 171 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: obviously has ties going back to Mick Cronin or if 172 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: that means keeping Corey Evans. 173 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: I think that's something he'll explore. 174 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: But I also wouldn't be surprised if if you see 175 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: some you know, complete turnover and new faces in there 176 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 2: for him to get his own staff. 177 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: When you look at the style, and I know you've 178 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: written about this and have highlighted this on your Twitter 179 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: as well, what can Bearcat fans expect that's going to 180 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: look different? 181 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 5: Right? 182 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: That the defense kind of played better last year in 183 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: the West Miller, but the offense just disappeared at times. 184 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: That's not going to be the case. What can fans 185 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: expect with Jared Calhoun now leading this team. 186 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, they've had a really efficient offense at a Utah 187 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 2: State for the past two years, thinks have been top 188 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 2: thirty and Ken Palm both years. And then defensively, it's 189 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 2: not you know, fans might remember the matchup zone that 190 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: McK cronin played. It's not that exactly, but Calhoun does 191 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 2: kind of play a unique one to two zone a lot, 192 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: and I think you know, you'll probably see him bring 193 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: that to Cincinnati as well. There's some elements of Cronin 194 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 2: and even going back to Bob Huggins in terms of 195 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: that defensive toughness and mentality that I think fit really 196 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: well with you know, with the history of Cincinnati in 197 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: the program and so Ahill. It does bring in some 198 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 2: maybe more offensive juice or firepower than west Miller's teams 199 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 2: have had the past couple of years. It's not like 200 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: a complete change or abandonment of that that bear Cat 201 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 2: defensive toughness and identity, which again just another thing that 202 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 2: feels like it's a perfect fit for this marriage. 203 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 4: You wrote that over the last couple of years, it's 204 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 4: been close to twenty million dollars that has been spent 205 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 4: on the Bearcat's roster. Is there any indication that something 206 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 4: like that might change? Is it going to be roughly 207 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 4: the same for Jared Calhoun or maybe a little bit different? 208 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 4: Is there any indication on that and. 209 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 2: That twenty millions over two years, Right, we're not talking 210 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 2: to Kentucky twenty two million situations for are one, although 211 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 2: I'm sure Calhoun would be he'd be fine, Yeah. 212 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: As they're offering. 213 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, Cincinnati's been competitive the past couple of years 214 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 2: in terms of that nil revenue sharing, you know, roster 215 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: building budget, whatever you want to call it. You know 216 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: that they've been competitive for a for a Power Conference team, 217 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: for a Big twelve team. I don't imagine that will 218 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 2: change in anyway. I don't know what the exact number 219 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 2: is going to be. I don't think they put an 220 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 2: exact number on it, but I think it's fair to 221 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: assume that they can kind of be close to that 222 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: ten million type type range again this season. You know, 223 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 2: I think the support will be there. I think there's 224 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: a chance that the support will increase. Tony, you mentioned 225 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 2: like Bob Huggins still looms so large over this this program. 226 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 2: There are still some donors and supporters out there who are, like, 227 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 2: you know, we're big Bob Huggins supporters. Not that they've 228 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 2: been on the sidelines this whole time, but I think 229 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 2: you might even see like a little bit more increased 230 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: support from from certain aspects of the donor base who 231 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 2: were really wanting to kind of get back to that 232 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 2: Bob Huggins tree. And so I think Calhoun's gonna have 233 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 2: support certainly more than he had at Utah State. I 234 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 2: think he mentioned over the weekend they had a two 235 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 2: point four billion dollar budget at Utah State this season, 236 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 2: which was a pretty significant increase from where they were 237 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 2: the year before and he went to the NCAA tournament 238 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: and won a game. So for Calhoun is definitely gonna 239 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 2: be a big step up in resources. And for Cincinnati, 240 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a continuation of where 241 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 2: they've been in recent years. 242 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 4: You see, fans have also not been afraid to voice 243 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 4: their displeasure with John Cunningham over the last couple of years. 244 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 4: I think this is a big hire for him. Do 245 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 4: you feel like there's pressure on him not only would 246 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 4: this hire, but overall based off the way things have 247 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 4: gone the last couple of years. 248 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 2: Definitely, Look, athletic directors are judged on their football and 249 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 2: men's basketball hires, and maybe in some cases there's another 250 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 2: sport at a school, women's basketball or baseball or wrestling 251 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 2: or something like that, but it's those two revenue sports. 252 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 2: Any athletic director will tell you that that's what they 253 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 2: get judged on, and that kind of determines both the 254 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 2: support among the fan base and honestly their job security. 255 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 2: You know, John Cunningham hired West Miller, didn't workout, he 256 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 2: hired Scott Saderfield's you know, improvement. Last year they went 257 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: to a bowl game, but probably hasn't gotten to where 258 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: fans want that to be, and so you know, he 259 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 2: gets to make another hire. Doesn't always happen for athletic 260 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 2: directors to kind of make a third hire or a 261 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 2: second hire in a sport. He got to do that 262 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: here with Calhoun. It was one of those situations. Yeah, 263 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 2: you had to buy out West Miller. Yeah, you're gonna 264 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 2: have to buy out Jared Calhoun from Utah State. But 265 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: Calhoun wanted to be there, the fan base wanted him, 266 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 2: the you know, the stakeholders wanted him. 267 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: You got to make that happen. 268 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: So credit to John Cunningham for going out and making 269 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 2: yes and obvious higher. But I think I hire that 270 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 2: he needed to make for the program and for himself, 271 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: and you know, if it works out, then I think 272 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 2: you're you're going to see some of that support, you know, 273 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 2: flow down to John Cunningham as well. 274 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: What's the timeline now look like the portal I believed 275 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: April seventh is the deadline. Obviously there are players maybe 276 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: at Utah State that would be interested in joining Jared 277 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: Calhoun here. I'm sure there are players on the current 278 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: roster that would at least like to maybe explore that 279 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: or maybe who wants to make a pitch to what 280 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 1: does the timeline now look like in today's whirlwind of 281 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 1: college sports for him to get in here and try 282 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: to cultivate these relationships now before the portal. Yeah, portal 283 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: opens the day after the national championship game. 284 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 2: I think you're that's April seventh and just another reason 285 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 2: why they they kind of had to speed up the 286 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 2: timeline on the West Miller buy out and moving on 287 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: and kind of getting their new coach in place. Honestly, 288 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 2: it probably doesn't look that different than it looks for 289 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 2: any coach, whether it's a new coach or returning coach. 290 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 2: In college basketball now you're pretty much re recruiting your 291 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 2: roster every year. So no, he doesn't have some of 292 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 2: those established relationships with guys at Cincinnati. You know, maybe 293 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 2: you want to see what's the situation with Mustafa Johm 294 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 2: and see some of these other players who you know, 295 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: whether they were on multi year rev share deals or 296 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 2: just have remaining eligibility. I think you want to get 297 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 2: in and have some conversation with them, see where their 298 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: head's at, and. 299 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: Then see how they might fit into your system. 300 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 2: You know, if he does want to keep them if 301 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 2: they do want to stay, and then you're right, he's 302 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 2: going to have relationships that you tall state. 303 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 1: But the way the sport goes now, it's, you. 304 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 2: Know, every year you're going to be bringing in multiple players, 305 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 2: whether you have relationships you know, PASSI reallyships with them 306 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 2: as a coach or not. And so this gives Calhoun, 307 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 2: you know, a couple of weeks to get staff together, 308 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 2: kind of get his feet under Cincinnati, figure out some 309 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 2: of these budget specifics, and then you know, make some assessments, 310 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 2: whether it's bringing in new players, bringing players he's familiar with, 311 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 2: or bringing in outside guys. 312 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: Before we let you go justin, I know you updated 313 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: on x earlier the Chandler Morris lawsuit situation in Virginia, 314 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: the former quarterback and what he's doing through the NCAA. 315 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: You also covered back in January the lawsuit within Brendan 316 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: Soroesby and the University of Cincinnati. I know you you 317 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: covered that. I know you've you've detailed that. Where does 318 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: that now stand and are there any updates in that case? 319 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: But the former quarterback now at Texas Tech, and does 320 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: he ow or will he owe the University of Cincinnati? 321 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: How well that or how has that played itself out? 322 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, so now we're waiting on you know, I think 323 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 2: Sorsby's team has like ninety days to submit a response. 324 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 2: I don't remember what the exact data on that is. 325 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 2: Sometime in April soarsby team will have a chance to 326 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: respond in terms of the court case, and you know, 327 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: then we'll kind of move on from there. But really 328 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 2: right now kind of in a holding waiting pattern until 329 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 2: his legal team has a chance to respond. 330 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: Awesome stuff, that is, it's awesome to catch up with 331 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: you justin. For those that are following along, What is 332 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: the easiest way to keep up with uh, with everything 333 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: you had and you got happening? 334 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, on social media at Williams Underscore justin and then 335 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 2: you know, subscribe to The Athletic read the Athletic. Got 336 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 2: a like I said, going to Chicago this weekend for 337 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 2: Sweet sixteen and the Elite eight, and then I'll be 338 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 2: in Indianapolis for a Final four in a couple of weeks. 339 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,479 Speaker 4: What are the odds that the NCAA tournament gets expanded 340 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 4: next year? 341 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: Justin? 342 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 4: What do you think? 343 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: It seems pretty good just based on the way everyone's talking. 344 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 2: It also seems like you'd have a hard time finding, 345 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: you know, a group of five or six people who 346 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: think that's a good idea, certainly, you know, outside of 347 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 2: maybe some of the Power Conference commissioners. 348 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: So I don't know. 349 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 2: It's this happens a lot with the NCAAs of it 350 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: feels like, oh, this is gonna happen, you know, having 351 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: with college football playoff expansion too, right, like, oh, yeah, 352 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: it's coming, It's gonna happen. And then it kind of 353 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 2: gets to that point it's like, ah, we actually didn't 354 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: you know, have a chance to get our act together, 355 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: and it's gonna push off for another year. 356 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: Maybe that happens again. 357 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 2: It feels like this is the second or third year 358 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 2: we've been talking about NCAA tournament expansion. But it just 359 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: kind of feels like at some point in the near 360 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 2: future it'll become an inevitability. 361 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: I don't like it. No one likes it. And when 362 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: they put those extra games on Tuesday Wednesday, I'm gonna 363 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: be watching it just like everyone else. So you know, 364 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: it is what it is. I guess pretty much all 365 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: of his coverage via the Athletic or on social at 366 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: Williams Underscore justin thank you so much for your time, 367 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: and I hope we can catch up soon. Appreciate you 368 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: fellas anytime. That is Justin Williams. This is since he 369 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: three p sixty. It's good to catch up with Justin. Yeah, 370 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: and just see him. 371 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 4: We had him on video. We're gonna be posting the video. 372 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 4: We did post the video with uh would Joe Daneman 373 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 4: as well? And I think Justin he can't hear us anymore, 374 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 4: but I think Justin did his hair for us today 375 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 4: because he was a couple of minutes late, yep, and 376 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:09,959 Speaker 4: then as soon as he popped in it looked like 377 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 4: he just got out of the barber's chair. Yeah, it 378 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 4: might be a little product in there that I think 379 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 4: he did. Shout out to Justice. I respect that absolutely. 380 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: Let's talk some Reds Opening Day Eve of the eve 381 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: of Opening Day next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 382 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 3: From locker room whispers to stadium roars, He's got it all, 383 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 3: Moeger Today at three pm on ESPN fifteen. 384 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 2: Thirty covers the Bengals Like ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 385 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: Welcome back, since he three to sixty. ESPN fifteen thirty 386 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Sports Station five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifteen 387 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: thirty phone lines are open. We can have another phone 388 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: call or two between now and welcoming in. Welcoming in, Moegger. 389 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: He'll join us for quick hits around two forty five, 390 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: like he normally does. I did see a small update 391 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: Austin that uh, Nick Lodolo is scheduled to play catch today. 392 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 4: Oh, according to Gordon Wittmeier. I'm in favor of that. 393 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: Now again, what this means long term, I don't know. 394 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: He exited the Sunday, his Sunday outing against the Guardians 395 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: with the blister. He is tentatively scheduled to start Saturday 396 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: versus the Red Sox, but getting pushed back or placed 397 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: on the injured list are viewed as likelier scenarios for Lodolo. 398 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 1: Expect the Reds to proceed cautiously so as to not 399 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: make the issue worse. 400 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, So I wonder how the weather affects 401 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 4: that at all. I mean, I don't know exactly what 402 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 4: the forecast is looking like between now and when Lodolo 403 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 4: is supposed to pitch, and how that affects his rehab 404 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 4: or any of that stuff. 405 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: But yeah, I know, as of now, it's only supposed 406 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: to be a high of forty nine on Saturday, sunny. 407 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: But that's just the high. So is that is Saturday. 408 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: I haven't looked at the the schedule. It is that still? 409 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: Do they do the kids Opening Day? Yes? And that'll 410 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: that all happens Saturday. 411 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, same start time at four to ten. Okay, start 412 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 4: on uh on Saturday for that one. But you know 413 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 4: the Reds do play their final tune up of the preseason. 414 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 4: Oh tonight, Well, how they line an exhibition action? If 415 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 4: you're ready for it, I can give you the line. 416 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 1: Let's do it. 417 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 4: Here's how the Reds will line them up. It's a 418 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 4: five to ten first pitch in Milwaukee. The Reds got 419 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 4: trounced by the Brewers last night. Here's how they'll line 420 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 4: them up tonight. Leading off, playing center field, TJ Friedel 421 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 4: batting second, Playing second, Matt McClean. The third batter is 422 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 4: shortstop Ellie de la Cruz. The cleanup hitter is the 423 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 4: first baseman, Sal Stewart. The fifth batter is the designated 424 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 4: hitter a you Hanio Swarez Suarez batting six. The right 425 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 4: fielder Spencer Steer. The seventh batter is left fielder Will 426 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 4: Benson batting eighth and catching. Tyler Stevenson. The ninth batter 427 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:29,719 Speaker 4: is third baseman, Key Brian Hayes. Starting pitcher for tonight 428 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 4: is Chase Burns once more. For Cincinnati, it's Freedol McLain, 429 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 4: de la Cruz, Stuart Swarez, Steer, Benson, Stevenson, Hayes with 430 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 4: Burns on the mount. Okay, so that I think is 431 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 4: pretty close to what we'll see on opening Day. I 432 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 4: think that there's a decent chance Dane Myers will start 433 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 4: in center field that day or maybe in right field 434 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 4: that day. But either way, I think that's pretty close 435 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 4: to what you're going to get going up against Garrett 436 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 4: Crochet and the Red Sox. 437 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: ESPN dot Com earlier today released the season preview and 438 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: what they did. They had some of their experts sit 439 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: down together, Jeff Passing, Jose Castillo, Brad Doolittle, Auden Gonzalez, 440 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: David Schoenfield all teamed up to kind of break down 441 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: the season and talk about teams win loss projections and such. 442 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: For the Cincinnati Reds Austin, they came up with the 443 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: projection of seventy eight and eighty four. That is a 444 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: nine game difference than what our good friend Joe Daneman 445 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: said at the top of hour two. So let's find 446 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: the in between somewhere, and then they kind of go 447 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: into these categories. The thing we'll be talking about the 448 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: most this season, what would you say? What would you 449 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: answer that question? 450 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 4: The Reds thing we'll be talking about the most this 451 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 4: season is south Stewart's emergence. 452 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: Close Is this the year Ellie puts it all together? Oh? Now, 453 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: the most likely twenty twenty six award winner is south Stewart. 454 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: He is their pick for Rookie of the Year in 455 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:14,239 Speaker 1: the National League. One realistic Bold prediction is that the 456 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: Reds rotation the sinceinn I read ranks second and fangrabs 457 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: and Baseball Reference war in twenty twenty five, but will 458 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: be without Hunter Green until July after surgery remove the 459 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: bone chips. That puts more pressure on Chase Burns, but 460 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: the number two pick will live up to the hype 461 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: with one hundred and fifty innings in a sub three 462 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: era while averaging more than ten strikeouts per inning. 463 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 4: Okay, per ten strikeouts per what. 464 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: Ten per that says ten kse per inning. I'm guessing 465 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: that should be per outing inning. It's going to be 466 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: pretty impressive. How can they contend? Here's what they list. 467 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: Hunter Green comes back healthy, Chase Burns takes those steps forward, 468 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: and the team hits better than they did last year. 469 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 1: Ellie de la Cruz is not plagued by a quad issue, 470 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: a full season of South Stewart, the return of you 471 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 1: Honeyo Suarez, and don't forget about Matt McClain. If all 472 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 1: of these things get back to where they should be, 473 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: then this team can contend. If it's the other way, Austin, 474 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: because yesterday we gave the reasons for hope. What happens 475 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: this season? If things fall apart and this team is 476 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: closer to seventy eight wins than they already seven, why 477 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: what happened? What went wrong? 478 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 4: They got hurt? 479 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: You think it's the injuries and injuries alone. 480 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, they have a really really bad history of getting hurt. 481 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 4: And if the starting pitchers are hurt, if blisters are 482 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 4: a problem, if you know, Ellie goes down, and you know, 483 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 4: I think Joe mentioned it that they were really lucky 484 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 4: with the position player and how durable they were last year. 485 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 4: If one of those guys go down for an extended 486 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 4: amount of time, how does that have an impact, or 487 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 4: if Suarez gets hurt, if Stewart gets hurt. No, obviously 488 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 4: I'm not wishing that upon anybody, but it's a very 489 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 4: realistic possibility just based off the history of the organization. 490 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 4: So that to me is the thing that can stand 491 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 4: in their way that and these pitchers never find it. Yeah, 492 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 4: like I but I don't think that's that's but I get. 493 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: It as well. Like there's there's a lot of things 494 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: that you're banking on that that need to happen without 495 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: the proven substance to this point, right, Matt McClain has 496 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: to show that he can bounce back. Ellie has to 497 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: show that he can do it for a full season, 498 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: you know, Spencer Steer has to be solid for this team. 499 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: A lot of things Suarez and I'm not saying Suarez 500 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: has to hit forty nine home runs. What do you 501 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: constitute as a successful Suarez year this year? 502 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 4: Thirty homers, thirty home runs, hundred rbi, yeah, or ninety RBI. 503 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: Somewhere right around there. I would I would agree with 504 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: what's interesting about. 505 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 4: Can Suarez, de la Cruz and Stewart combined for ninety 506 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 4: total home runs? 507 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: M I think that's a good number. 508 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 4: Suarez hit fifty himself last year, right, Ellie hit what 509 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 4: twenty six? Twenty seven hit? Or friendly ballpark? We're told, 510 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 4: h yeah, I think it'll be interesting for those win 511 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 4: totals that they came up with. What is interesting to me? 512 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 4: Saint Louis seventy and ninety two, they put the Reds 513 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 4: at seventy eight and eighty four. They put the Pirates 514 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 4: at eighty one and eighty one, Milwaukee eighty three and 515 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 4: seventy nine, in Chicago at eighty nine and seventy three. 516 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 1: Are we over reacting a little bit nationally to the 517 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: Pirates you think? Or do you think it's warranted with 518 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 1: the moves they've made on offense and the pitching staff 519 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: that they do possess eighty one and eighty one fair? 520 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I would say so. 521 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. I just feel like, you know, Paul Skins as 522 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: dominant as they come right now. 523 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's it's obviously more than him because he 524 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 4: only pitches every five days. Mitch Keller is really good. 525 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 4: O'Neil Cruz continues to ascend like they have some good 526 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 4: young players on that team, and on top of. 527 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: That, the WZA and uh Brandon Lowe Ryan o'harton. Yeah. 528 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 4: Like, and on top of that too, is like after 529 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 4: they fired Derek Shelton last year, they were a five 530 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 4: hundred ball club and they fired him within the first 531 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 4: month and a half two months of the season. They 532 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 4: had just started so poorly. They fired him, and they 533 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 4: the guy who's currently their manager, which I have no 534 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 4: idea what his name is, but they retained him. I mean, 535 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 4: they were a very like a viable team last year. 536 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 4: They were not an easy out by any stretch of 537 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 4: the imagination, and there was a time where they were 538 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,719 Speaker 4: making a run. And so I think when you've supplemented 539 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 4: the roster of the way they have in a big 540 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 4: sample size the way that they performed last season, that 541 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 4: makes you feel better about their chances to continue to 542 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 4: build on that this year. 543 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're pitching staff with skeins. A lot of people 544 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: are high on Bubba Chandler, Braxton, Ashcraft, Jared Jones. They're 545 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: going to be good on the mound. Connor Griffin, is 546 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: he starting the year in Triple A or is he 547 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: starting the year with the club? 548 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 4: I believe they are starting him in the minor league. Okay, 549 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 4: that could be one of those you know, major league 550 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 4: clock situations, service time where they'll bring him up a 551 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 4: little bit later on. 552 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, for what it's worth, last year, Connor Griffin at 553 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: all three levels of Triple A hit three p thirty 554 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: three with twenty one home runs and sixty five stolen bases. 555 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: So you got to think only a matter of time 556 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: before he's on the scenes in Pittsburgh as well. We'll 557 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,959 Speaker 1: take another break, we'll come back, we'll finish things up 558 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: before we welcome in Mowager for quick hits on ESPN 559 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. 560 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 5: Six, Cincinnati rag He Bear gosh. 561 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 6: Is ESPN fifteen to thirty. 562 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 5: Player profile good bar presented by rookie wished in Recycling 563 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 5: Don Wright. 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Turns to 603 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 3: jacksonwo dot com slash one forty nine. 604 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 6: I'm Boomersias and my mom died. 605 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: Welcome back since he three to sixty ESBN fifteen thirty 606 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Sports station. 607 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 4: This is how you know it's official. Jared Calhoun, new 608 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 4: Twitter handle, new profile pick, new header, new bio, new location. 609 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 4: It's all there for Jared Calhoun. New coach. Who, yes, 610 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 4: new coach. He's uh, he's gotten a lot of Twitter 611 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 4: followers over the last couple of days as well. Yeah, 612 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 4: I think the other day had like seven thousand, and 613 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 4: now he's up over ten. I go back and I know. 614 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 4: Justin Williams alluded to this. It's a guy who was 615 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 4: very open about trying to make it work at Utah 616 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 4: State with an nil budget, just around two point five million. 617 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 4: The thought is, at least initially he'll have a roster. 618 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: Spending capability around ten million or so, So see what 619 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: he can do with four times the amount he worked 620 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: with last year at Utah State, which led them to 621 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: an NCAA tournament. And a lot of people viewed that 622 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: nine seeds as a misseeed. They thought that they should 623 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: have been a little bit higher seed and not play 624 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: the number one seed in the second round. But do 625 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: it with what you want. 626 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 4: Will he be as open and transparent about the amount 627 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 4: of money he has to work with at uc as 628 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 4: he was at Utah. It's a great question I'm wondering. 629 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll find out more tomorrow at his introductory press 630 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: conference at one o'clock. So we'll get you some audio 631 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: from what Jared Calhoun has to say. Also, looking ahead 632 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: major news already for our Friday show, we get Charlie 633 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: Goldsmith I understand in studio for an hour this Friday. 634 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: That's correct, the day after opening day. 635 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 4: Charlie, the day after opening day will do the full 636 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 4: breakdown of what happened Opening Day and also preview the 637 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 4: rest of the remaining one hundred and sixty one games. 638 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 4: Charlie's gonna be with us from twelve thirty up until 639 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 4: one thirty, so we'll do, you know, our normal first 640 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 4: segment Charlie for an hour, he'll hit the road, we'll 641 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 4: do talkbacks, and right on into the rest of a 642 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 4: Friday show. 643 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: Keep that in mind, and obviously keep in mind for 644 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: Thursday that this show. The time doesn't change, the location will. 645 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: We will be at Smoke Justice, just a block and 646 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: a bridge away from the ballpark for one of our 647 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: most what I think, fun shows of the year with Austin, 648 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: myself and Mowager from noon to three. Just a block 649 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: and a bridge and away. We'll get you all things 650 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: settled and set for Opening Day. Reds the Red Sox. 651 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: Mowager will join us when we come back. It's Quick 652 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: Hits next ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports. 653 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 3: Station WCKY Cincinnati and iHeartRadio Station Guaranteed Human ESPN fifteen thirty. 654 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 6: I Hardraady the mine for a Quick Hits on Tony Pikes. 655 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: Since Yes six was looking for the eve of the 656 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: eve of Opening Day, it's a big day. Moweger's joining 657 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: us for quick hits. Hi, how are you? 658 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 6: I'm wonderful, how are you? Guys? 659 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: It's a big day, the Bigotball edition of the Crosstown Shootout. Yes, 660 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: or pitch coming up in just a few minutes. 661 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 6: You see an X on the diamond. 662 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: I was told yesterday that it has been one thousand 663 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: and ninety seven days since you see or Xavier has 664 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: lost to UC at home. Okay, so so the Bearcats 665 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: are due? Bearkats are due? Could be you think Quentin 666 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: can go yard again today? Can you get number nineteen? 667 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: Just like you can go yard everywhere? Yeah? Right, Guy's 668 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: been fun, dude, Guy's been fun. It's been fun today. 669 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: There's a lot going on, obviously, everything around Opening Day. 670 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: You see football Pro Day. The Bearcats have found their 671 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: head coach. What do you got coming up on the 672 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: show today? 673 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 7: How many different ways can you spell the name Jared? 674 00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 7: Because I've seen a lot good goody? 675 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 6: Is there a name? 676 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 7: Is there an American name that you could spell more 677 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 7: different ways than Jared? 678 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 6: Because you have a J A R E D. Yes, 679 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 6: you have j R r O D. You have j 680 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 6: E r R O D. 681 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 7: So that's we're just gonna come up with say j 682 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 7: A R R E t all via Jared, all the 683 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 7: different ways to spell Jared across the course of the 684 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 7: next three hours. 685 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 6: I like this higher. 686 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 7: I like this higher, and I think he is reasonably 687 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 7: set up for short term success. Now we don't know 688 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 7: whose players are going to be, so that's obviously a major, 689 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 7: major caveat. 690 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: But at the timing of this is he has time 691 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: to do that before the April seventh portal. 692 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's there's the timing of it. 693 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,720 Speaker 7: Like I don't do this to make excuses for either 694 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 7: of Jared Calhoun's two predecessors, but when Wes Miller got 695 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 7: the job, they were playing catch up, and so that 696 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,760 Speaker 7: first season it felt like they were doomed to not succeed. 697 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 7: Then after year two, when it kind of felt like, 698 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 7: all right, things are steadied, they jumped to the Big twelve. 699 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 7: John Brandon's first year, he got the late UCLA took 700 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 7: forever to hire a coach. It felt like John Brannon 701 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 7: was playing ketchup. Now the rules were different. So he 702 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 7: actually inherited Drey Scott, Jared Jared Kummelin and they were 703 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 7: maybe an NCAA tournament team will obviously never know, but 704 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 7: I feel like Jared Calhoun is not going to be 705 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 7: swimming as much upstream as his two predecessors. Now you 706 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 7: don't know who his players are going to be, but 707 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,760 Speaker 7: the portal windows different and just the dynamic is different, 708 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 7: the timing is different. So I think he has set 709 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 7: up for some short term success. 710 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: How unique is it? Because I've said this today, if 711 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 1: you weren't a diehard Cincinnati fan, the way people here 712 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: talk about Bob Huggins in that era, you would think 713 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 1: he coached last year. Right, it's years and even the 714 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: Mick Cronin era, there's time that is coming past, and 715 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: you and I have tons often about man it. I 716 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: gravitate towards Houston because that, to me reminds me of 717 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: UC basketball growing up. Does this hire? Because I asked 718 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: the question, if he didn't ties, do you see this 719 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:02,760 Speaker 1: hire still made sense? 720 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 6: Sure? 721 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: Yes, you add in the ties to you see, and 722 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: a guy who's going to embrace the shootout, a guy 723 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: who understands the type of basketball that's expected to be 724 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: played here perhaps a step to getting back towards that 725 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: as well. 726 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 7: Today, I feel like Wes Miller worked really hard and 727 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 7: did a pretty good job of reaching out to former players. 728 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,240 Speaker 7: But I think this that's going to be an easier 729 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 7: task for Jared Calhoun. Also, like maybe this is the 730 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 7: last thing that had to happen for UC to put 731 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 7: Bob Huggins in its Hall of Fame. How about that 732 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,879 Speaker 7: which he's not, which is seems like a layup remarkable 733 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 7: to me. No, I don't know that they had to 734 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 7: go get somebody who had Cincinnati ties. 735 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: But it doesn't hurt. 736 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 7: And if it means that more former players are going 737 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 7: to really support Jared Calhoun in the program, then who's 738 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:53,320 Speaker 7: against it? 739 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 6: It certainly didn't hurt. 740 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 4: Would there have been more of a national search or 741 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 4: perhaps a reluctance to move on from Wes if there 742 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 4: weren't the previous ties. 743 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 6: It's a great question. It's a great question. 744 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,439 Speaker 7: I don't I'm going to guess that what stood out 745 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,720 Speaker 7: more than anything for John Cunningham and whatever other decision 746 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 7: makers had a hand in this was just the loud 747 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 7: chorus of people who were saying I'm not coming back. 748 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 7: And I think that had to drive this more than anything. 749 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 7: But would there have been a wider net cast maybe maybe. 750 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: Very rarely on social media in today's world, does it 751 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: feel university like people are happy with something? 752 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 7: Well, I think what happened is a lot of people 753 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 7: watch Jared Calhoun's team's play on Wednesday and Sunday and 754 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 7: we're like, I mean, I talked to somebody at the 755 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 7: school today who's like, did you watch this weekend? 756 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 6: And I am watch both games. It's like, what'd you think? 757 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,879 Speaker 7: I'm like, it ran good stuff, man, And I'll say this, 758 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 7: thirty three nineteen on Sunday night, it feels like Arizona 759 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 7: is about to beat the brakes off of them, and 760 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 7: Jered Calhoun's team kept coming up with any to make 761 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 7: that close game with four minutes to go. So I 762 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 7: think that helped. I think a lot of people focused 763 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 7: in on Utah State on Friday against Villanova and Sunday 764 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 7: against Arizona, and we're like kind of. 765 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 6: Like what I see? 766 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 7: It's this is this is a huge hire man because 767 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 7: John Cunningham, and let's face it, he may be an 768 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 7: effective administrator, and I think in many respects he is. 769 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 7: But you're a judged by the success and the two 770 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 7: highest profile sports, especially when you've hired the coaches. Scott Saderfield, 771 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 7: if we're putting a gently jury is still out. Wes 772 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 7: Miller didn't work out to the extent that anybody would 773 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 7: have liked. How many more coaches are you going to 774 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 7: get a chance to hire that don't work out? So 775 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 7: this is it's huge for him. But I also feel 776 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 7: like when Mick Cronin left, all it was was got 777 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 7: to get somebody who can get to the Sweet sixteen, 778 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 7: got to get somebody who can win two games in March, 779 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 7: And I remember raising my hand going cool, I don't disagree, 780 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 7: but do we understand how hard it is to get 781 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 7: there every single year? Now it's just Jared, can you 782 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 7: get us there? Can you play and date? And can 783 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 7: you be team sixty eight? So I feel like the 784 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 7: bar a little bit lower. It's a little bit lower 785 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 7: for him to clear. But I also feel like it's 786 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 7: not like they were a team that went three and 787 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 7: fifteen in the Big Twelve last year, like they've established themselves. 788 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 7: I think as a competitive Big twelve program, competitive is 789 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 7: not going to cut it long term, but I do 790 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 7: think the bar to clear year one, year two is 791 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 7: pretty low. 792 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: What else you got on the show this afternoon? 793 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 6: Can the Reds defy everybody? 794 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, Joe Danaman today said eighty seven. 795 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 6: That is on the optimistic end. I heard that. 796 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 1: I heard that ESPN dot Com said seventy eight. 797 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 7: So I've got a whole list of projections here. Not 798 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 7: one of them is overly optimistic. I'm not overly optimistic 799 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 7: because I think they're going to win the same number 800 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 7: of games they did last season. I'm looking for the 801 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 7: folks who believe I'm either too optimistic or too pessimistic. 802 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 7: I'm looking for those folks day because like, we're starting 803 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 7: the season with the staff ace on the injured list, 804 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 7: and Nick Lodolo might start the season on the injured line. 805 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: Fantastic. 806 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 6: That's that's tough. 807 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 7: To start this season. If you kind of build in, 808 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 7: injuries will be a factor. Like I just I am 809 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 7: not quite as bullish on the starting staff as I 810 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,320 Speaker 7: might have been seven weeks ago, and I've I've searched 811 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 7: my soul, asking myself self, are you putting a little 812 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 7: bit too much into what's happened during spring training? 813 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 1: That's fair? 814 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 7: What's the more remarkable to you that opening day is 815 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 7: two days away and the Bengals haven't yet signed the 816 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 7: linebacker or that you see is fired and hired a coach, 817 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 7: and the Bengals still haven't signed the linebacker Tough. This 818 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 7: literally is one of the most remarkable. This is I 819 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 7: went to UC's Pro day today, boring. 820 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: I don't your list is far away from me. Do 821 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 1: you have the name date and Weber written down at all? 822 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 7: Today? 823 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,359 Speaker 1: You're not going to do a date and Weber segment. 824 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a date web Alright, you're gonna shoot 825 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 1: your stye away from that. 826 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 6: I'm kind of good. 827 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: Yes, that's fair. Uh, We're done. Mo is next on ESPN. 828 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 4: Fifteen his hands off on that topic. Yes, yes, it's 829 00:41:18,000 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 4: a natty sports station. Have a great rest of your Tuesday.