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Speaker 1: Bengals are not back again. The Bengals. It's been five

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Speaker 1: Nick Lache has had enough. He just dropped this song

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Speaker 1: on social This is Brown in the name of Joe Barrow.

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Speaker 1: Won should take your bends and go selling my brown,

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Speaker 1: sell my crown on the phone, say well, damn damn Lache,

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Speaker 1: that's baby making music. That's not a distract. That's baby

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Speaker 2: You got there, Well, maybe we killed two birds of one.

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Speaker 2: Don make some babies and pissing people off. Wow?

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Speaker 1: That there you go. Well, wow, how did I How

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: It was because the Bengals suck. That's how you were born.

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Speaker 1: That's how.

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Speaker 2: Hey, something something good should come out of them at

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Where are you right now? You're out

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Speaker 2: I'm out in La, Okay.

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Speaker 1: So you're smart because it's too damn cold to come

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm talking to my my family back back east

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Speaker 2: I'm not jellings.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, missing, we're jealous here. We got snow today too.

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Speaker 1: So how they hell? Nick Lache, how did you become

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Speaker 2: I'm a long abused Banks fan. You know. It's it's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, therapy, Yeah, you have an opportunity that most of

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Speaker 1: Well, but I will say this, I think you're looking,

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Speaker 2: No, I'm looking at the right score which is why

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Speaker 2: It's not There's plenty of other ownership groups that could

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Speaker 2: That finally the Bengals going to find a way to

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Speaker 1: Right, Nicklas, do you want you want to buy this is?

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Speaker 1: If that says, are you trying to leverage him so

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Speaker 1: just because I mean, you've got that ridiculous love is

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Speaker 2: I wish that was the case. I wish I had

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Speaker 2: buy an NFL French No, of course not. I'm a fan.

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Speaker 1: What makes you think somebody somebody else comes in and

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Speaker 2: I don't know if the NFL would would mind and

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll say this Nick also what they watch.

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Speaker 2: But that's what they want to think though, right, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think that's that's kind of what we've been, you know,

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Speaker 1: Here's what here's why I don't think that's true. Right,

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Speaker 2: I think it's an incredible point it's made, and it's

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: Nick Lache, You're not the first person to say, hey,

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Speaker 1: Well, the good news is Reds Baseball is not that

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, it's there's all nothing but

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Speaker 2: more again, man, I mean, Brown family has made so

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Speaker 1: Why why should they listen Nick? Why why should they

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Speaker 1: It's not just the It's not the Bengals. I mean,

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Speaker 1: But hopefully this year they do better. But again we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And of course the legendary that would

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Speaker 2: Hurt hurbs sendak. Look at this, Look at this coaching roster.

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Speaker 2: So maybe maybe this little this little diddy I wrote.

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Speaker 1: Away from people, no no more, no more sacrificeing than

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Speaker 1: Nick Las, our brother. I appreciate you checking.

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Speaker 2: In, man, Thanks, yeah, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: God it's hard. It's hard to tell people what to

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Speaker 1: do with their own damn money. But if your name

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Speaker 1: has Cincinnati in the front or back of the jersey, uh,

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Speaker 1: there's a debt, yo, I think to the community. And

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Speaker 1: Nick is pissed off, and I love it. Sloany seven

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Speaker 1: hundred ww