WEBVTT - Eddie & Rocky -- 12/9/25 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:05.640 With Eddie and Rocky, the Prodigal Sun returns. He's tanned, rested, 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:07.240 and ready so tanned up. 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:12.160 He's trying to kick his cigarette habit that he picked 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:14.000 up while in Aruba. 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:16.360 I'm very surprised I didn't smoke down it. 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:18.240 Really, I'm a little disappointed. 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:23.480 That's only I I only certain there's only certain boundaries 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:25.720 of countries that I crossed when I smoke again. 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:27.080 So yeah, So in other words, when you go to 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:30.480 London kind of a quarter Dreyer place, like it's time 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:31.080 to start ripping. 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:32.880 Yeah, I'm not going to sit outside in the sun 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:36.560 it's ninety degrees and have a couple of heaters. Man, 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:40.320 I'm good, punch a stick with my my ties or whatever. 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:45.960 I bet you had a few of those stuff. Yeah, 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:49.879 So let's talk about the matters at hand. Rock And 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:53.960 We've had this a gentleman on many times, and I 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:57.440 love talk about breaking down the hospital bills and getting 0:00:57.480 --> 0:00:59.560 itemized stuff because. 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:01.800 You don't know what you're getting, right, You have no idea, 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:05.000 and you know that they catch you in a vulnerable position, right, 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:06.960 and you just want to get something paid. You got 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:09.760 somebody sick or yourself sick, and you're Okay, we'll just 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:12.920 pay this thing. And there's been a big push for 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:16.360 a while here, especially in particular with our next guest, 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:19.720 about making that more transparent and lowering bills for folks 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:20.000 a bit. 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:22.919 Well, let's get him on right now, doctor Bill, welcome 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:23.839 back to the program. 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:28.520 Well, thank you, Merry Christmas, Cincinnati. 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:30.680 You've all been demoted. 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:32.920 While your health insurance costs go up more than the 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:34.160 raises you didn't get. 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:35.319 Let's fix that. 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:40.160 Wow, doctor, our guests, and well before we go into 0:01:40.200 --> 0:01:43.600 further Doc, explain to people. You've got a new gig. Right, 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:44.640 what are you doing right now? 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:45.640 Oh? 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:46.120 I do. 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:51.120 I'm with the ARC Group in a strong partnership delivering 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:59.960 healthcare that's affordable for America. The reason we got together 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:06.280 I showed you guy, we have an AI bill repricer now, 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:12.600 so now all of America can understand their bill. You 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:15.880 drag and drop your bill into a box on a 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:18.720 PDF form, and you see the full name of every 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:22.600 care item that the hospital hides, the price per care 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:26.840 item that the hospital previously hides, and what you should 0:02:26.919 --> 0:02:29.959 really pay, which is what Blue Shield United singing that 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:32.960 and hide. Now you get to see it all in 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:35.959 ten seconds. So I'm really excited about that. 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:39.800 So this is something that you do before you go 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:42.000 to the hospital. You plug this in. You figure out 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:43.840 which hospital is going to give you the better deal, 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:46.160 depending on whatever ailment it is you have. 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:52.280 This one's really for an aftercare. They said, a lot 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:55.560 of people get care and they didn't plan on getting care, 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:57.560 and then they get stuck with this thing that we 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:01.919 all know is called a surprise medical bill. And they 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:05.200 look at the sticker shock. After they're done a thinking 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:07.080 or saying out loud, they're expletives. 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:10.520 They don't know what to do. And this is where 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:11.760 we say, look. 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:18.399 Your itemized medical bill is your personal property. 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:21.160 The hospital must give it to you and at no cost. 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:26.040 That falls under HIPPA Law of nineteen ninety six Health 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:31.480 Insurance Portability Accountability Act. Under the privacy law, your bill 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:34.920 is your property. Hardly anybody knows that. That's why I 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:37.800 repeat it again. In other words, I teach everybody you 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:42.280 don't pay one dollar towards your bill until you have 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:45.400 looked at an itemized bill, which is exactly. 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:46.520 What you do in the rest of your life. 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:51.720 Yeah, and let me ask you, doc, how easy is 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:52.840 it to fight this stuff? 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:53.400 Yeah? 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:56.360 You can go through and say, okay, you charge me, 0:03:56.800 --> 0:04:00.480 you know, fifteen dollars for an aspirin or something about 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:02.680 how do you find it? 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:03.720 This is easy. 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:06.440 I heard you guys talking before I got on. I 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:09.320 sit down, I put a cigar in one hand, I 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:11.480 pick up the cell phone in the other and pull. 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:14.880 If it's gone in ten minutes. Okay, not everybody's me, 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:19.880 but it is easy. At true charge dot some health. 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:21.200 Sumhealth dot org. 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:26.320 The form that is there to request an itemized bill, 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:30.320 that's free. Anybody can download it, copy and paste it. 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:32.839 You don't have to know all the big words that 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:36.280 I do. Copy and paste it. And then when people 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:40.719 get an itemized bill, the stuff the hospitals and the 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:46.320 health insurance companies previously have hidden and you see names. 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:48.800 So many people see things that well, they never did 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:51.159 that to me, but they spend five minutes with me, 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:56.520 not thirty minutes with me. A layperson can quickly find 0:04:57.800 --> 0:04:59.560 airs and fraud too. 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:03.000 Interesting And how long has this been been around? 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:03.200 Doc? 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:09.400 This offering has been around since November. 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:11.320 Okay a month. That's it pretty new. 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:15.400 Well, so anybody can use it, but at a minimum, 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:19.120 everybody needs to know your bill is your property and 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:22.280 there's a free request form on how to ask for 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:25.000 an itemized bill so that the right information's in there. 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:30.159 And if everybody did that, we'd be forcing price transparency 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.760 because we'd be stopping the hospitals from get Imagine every 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:35.919 person in America that got carried to a hospital that 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:37.320 I'm not paying my bill to you give me an 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:38.000 itemized bill. 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:43.480 They just don't get paid any And I know it's 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:47.960 pretty new, but any estimates on the average amount of 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:51.560 money that has saved per bill the folks that are using. 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:57.240 This, you know, when we do the bill negotiation, we're 0:05:57.240 --> 0:06:02.560 averaging about seventy percent off bill charges. And if I 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:05.479 just reversed that and say for what a hospital in 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:08.480 the United States charges for care, And if I've I 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:11.159 was picked to say, what are they really get paid 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:14.880 by their friends at Blue Shield United Singa. The answer 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:18.120 is about thirty cents on the dollar. So if you're 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:19.640 going to put an offer out there, if you got 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:22.840 a ten thousand dollar bill, Tom, I'll give you three thousand, 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:27.440 You'll be surprised at how many times you're going to. 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:29.040 Get a number at her around there. 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:32.239 Wait, so you say, look, here's my bill, but here's 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:34.760 what I can pay right now, take it or leave it. 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:36.440 A lot of times you're saying they'll take. 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:38.880 It, that's correct. 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:43.040 Or if you don't want to pay the three thousand, 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:45.120 he said, well, you know they came back and they 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:48.240 said five thousand. I'd say, you know what, give them 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:52.640 fifty dollars a month in a paper check each month, 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:55.480 and you call it a good faith payment. And if 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:58.520 it's a good faith payment, now, all you're doing is 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:02.400 they can't sue you because you've made a good faith payment. 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:06.719 Most of these are large nonprofit hospital systems, and they can't. 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:13.560 Nonprofits can't sue patients paying good say fifty bucks a month. Okay, secretly, 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:16.560 what are we all thinking? I'm going to have to 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:19.000 live to be one hundred and twenty years old before 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:21.320 they get the rest of their payments. So all we're 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:25.520 doing is tilding the negotiating table back in our favor, 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:29.080 and maybe another six twelve months they come back and 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:31.920 then they say, wow, we'll take that three thousands. We 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:33.800 don't want to get paid fifty dollars a month till 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:34.200 you're dead. 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:37.880 Now, who is it with the hospital that you call? Like, 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:40.280 I mean, what number? Do you you know what I mean, like, 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:42.920 who's the person you're seeking out that's gonna you can 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:46.040 wrangle with about this. Who's gonna give you the time? 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:48.880 It's not going to be an AI generated voice or 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:52.119 someone in Pakistan, Like, how do you who's the person 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:52.520 you go to? 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:55.600 It's a great question. 0:07:56.480 --> 0:08:02.280 So to request your itemized bills, I do recommend calling. 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:06.160 You would think you just ask for the medical billing department. 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:09.480 Well that's true half the time, but the other half 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:12.400 the time you send it to the request of the 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:15.840 medical records department. So I call the medical billing department 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:19.680 and say I want an itemized bill. I'm going to 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:22.920 use doctor Bill's form from true charge dot somehealth dot 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:26.000 org where I send it. It's either medical billing or 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:29.960 medical records. 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:30.080 And then you get it. 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:33.320 You typically you are talking then to somebody in medical 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:38.200 billing when you're negotiating this down just to you'd say 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:40.640 I'd like to settle my bill. Who do I talk to? 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:44.760 I can't afford your crazy price here. We know nobody 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:47.520 pays it, so I'm looking to be reasonable. 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:48.920 You can do that. 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:55.320 There's one other secret number, the financial assistance. If you're 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:59.040 making between ballpark thirty thousand, dollars to eighty thousand dollars. 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:05.160 Under the Affordable Care Actors IRS provisions called five zero one, 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:07.760 if you're making thirty eight thousand most you're going to 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:12.840 get free care or steeply discounted care because in exchange 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:16.280 for the millions of dollars they save as nonprofit hospitals 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:19.679 that actually totals forty billion dollars in the country by 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:21.880 their tax status, they're supposed to give back free and 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:24.600 discount of care. So if you make in between there, 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:28.320 I'd always be calling the financial counselor office and say, 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:33.600 give me a financial assistance application. And if I told 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:37.520 you I make this much money, how is my care free? 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:39.800 Or might not only have to pay ten cents on 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:43.320 the dollar. I want everybody to take advantage of the 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:47.560 federal law. The ACA is made care unaffordable for so 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:51.199 many of us. But right here, this little pearl, we're 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:53.920 going to give people free health care next year in Cincinnati. 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:57.760 Well, doctor Bill, please tell us hell this can happen. 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:02.959 Because the TikTok video you sent was was amazing and 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:05.920 it was just a sample kind of bill. But it 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:08.760 went from my thirty five thousand dollars to like three 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:12.120 grand or something like that. And just by using this 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:14.360 app and picking through the stuff. So where can people 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:15.000 find out more? 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:19.400 Yeah, for the AI bill repriser and to get the 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:23.440 itemized bill request form. To start your fight with or 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:28.599 without our assistance, you go to true charge dot some 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:34.160 sumhealth dot somehealth dot org and there's a thirty second 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:37.960 video there. There's the itemized bill request there and our 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:43.480 frequently asked questions and you know, I would say, also 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:46.000 try not to go to the hospital. It's the most 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:50.040 expensive place for routine e elective care. But at the 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:54.240 same time, understand not all cares electives. Sometimes you think 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:56.640 it's an emergency and the er happens to be the 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:59.600 number one source of billing fraud. And that's where you 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:01.800 want to our team to be on your side. 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:04.640 With that, we will let you go, Doctor Bill Hennessy. 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:06.959 We really appreciate it. Always good stuff, man. 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:09.480 Great beaking with you, fellows. 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:10.560 Doctor Thank you. 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:15.600 Uh doctor Bill Hennessy who apologized that he was going 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:17.040 to be on the member. He sent us to the 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:22.280 pictures for he was on like the beach and or 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:23.200 something last time. 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:23.959 Yeah. 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:27.120 Good, that's good knowledge though, good knowledge. With that, we 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:29.720 check in with traffic and weather. What is going on. 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:33.040 From the UCE Health Traffic Center. 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It's Skyline, 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:18.280 absolutely dropping by the mac and cheese three way back. 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:22.480 Remember we had this conversation last year. We're both trying 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:25.079 to figure out how you say coma tappi pasta. 0:13:26.440 --> 0:13:31.080 It's it's back that word that you and I. 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:37.640 It's quite good and it's it's all Skyline. You what 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:42.120 it tastes like? And the chicken chili all good, wonderful 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:46.040 stuff and uh here to heat us up on this 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:48.160 cold winter's day, just. 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:50.520 Like some hot Skyline. 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:56.840 Is our little cheese cony. I don't know what to 0:13:56.880 --> 0:14:01.480 say about it. Sut it out, Let's not that's fine. 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:03.719 I could have said, but. 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.960 I'm so no, thank you very much. Way to hold 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:09.400 back on this. 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:14.040 I knew he was. I've known him way too long. 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:16.200 I mean, I'm in my head. I'm like, he is 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:19.360 battling right now. How to use the word three way? 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:22.320 I introducing so anyway? 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:27.720 I was interviewed, who is the guy from oh, shoot 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:29.040 with the Little Olsen Twins? 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:36.960 Yeah, the show, Oh, the Family Feud, one of those. 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:41.440 So I want to interview John Stamos And I said 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:45.760 something naively like that, So I understand you love sin said, 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:47.600 He goes, yeah, I love a three way and I'm like, 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:50.040 that's great, you know, And we're going through and I 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:55.560 don't realize that he's just making pun honey with me, 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:59.400 and I'm just I'm just going with it, like, oh really, 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:04.680 I love anyways too, I mean, like an idiot, a. 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:07.640 Five woy gal. And in at the end he's like, 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:09.160 are we talking about the same thing. 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:13.400 Or but by the way, we were not talking about. 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:16.720 The same I let's uh, well, let's let's talk about 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:20.320 more important matters. You will you wrote this story on 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:24.080 the on the mayor and the car repossession. What I 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:28.280 was watching this happen from Afar and it's like, how 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:31.360 about a cluster. This is let's the guy get himself 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:32.200 in that situation. 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:37.880 Oh okay, well, I mean, look, I am not an 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:39.360 apologist for the mayor. 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:41.960 Please do not call me an email me saying I 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:42.840 please do not do that. 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:46.080 I did this actual story. But actually I have to 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:48.800 give credit. You know, there is a Facebook site signal 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:51.480 ninety nine, and they had put it out there, and 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:54.360 you know, it piqued my interest. 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:55.400 Is this true? 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:59.640 And you know, I can't just assume what they're saying 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:02.960 is true. They're start putting something out there, and so 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:06.640 I reached out to the mayor's office. I ended up 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:11.360 getting the document that they had on signal ninety nine, 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:14.400 and I talked to the mayor on the phone and 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:15.840 he said, yeah, I had. 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:16.960 My car repossess last year. 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:22.400 He also they now taking nine nine suggested that there 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:26.080 was a second repossession order out there. He's like, I 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:28.400 don't know anything about the second repossession order, and I 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:30.360 am paid enough to date and I can prove it. 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:32.360 I didn't ask him to prove it at that moment, 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:36.400 but that's what he told me. And I, you know, 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:40.160 I talked to a dealer since then and they looked 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:43.680 at that order, that's that alleged second repossession order, and 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:45.840 they said that that's not real. I don't know if 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:48.960 that's true, but they claimed that that is not filled 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:50.320 out all the way. 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:52.000 Therefore, you know whatever. 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:55.400 Anyway, but yes, so he admitted that, yes, indeed, he 0:16:55.480 --> 0:17:01.200 had his car repossessed last year, he would have issues with. 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:02.920 His auto pay. 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:07.639 And you know, look, I got to tell you whether 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:11.280 you like a person or not as a human being, 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:13.760 and I know I'm there to ask tough questions and 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:16.080 I am happy to ask tough questions. That was an 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:20.560 uncomfortable conversation for me because it's embarrassing. It's an embarrassing 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:23.400 thing to have to ask someone. It's embarrassing for him 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:26.439 to have to admit to it. But the question I 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:28.800 want to ask you because I have gotten blowback, like 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:32.800 you cannot believe on this story, whether it's people saying 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:35.400 I wasn't tough enough or people saying I was. Why 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:37.320 did I am I picking on him and that kind 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:40.560 of thing. I sort of looked at this, and so 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:44.399 did our management. That he's the mayor of a major city, 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:48.000 and if to have your car repossessed, is there a 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:51.000 bigger issue? Going on here, which the mayor told me, no, 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:54.879 there's no larger financial issue here, But you know, is 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:56.879 there a larger financial issue here? You're the mayor of 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:59.080 a city, this is kind of important. We took it 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:02.000 as this is an important thing to tell, to tell 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:04.280 and to find out and then if it's true, to 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:07.480 tell people. But I have gotten so much blowback in 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:10.639 both directions. I'm curious what you guys think. Was I 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:12.199 too harsh in reporting that? 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:15.760 No, I think you're absolutely in line. Because and Steve 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:18.399 Gooden we had him on the show yesterday talking about this, 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:21.479 and he brought up a great point, which was, you know, 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:25.800 if if you're in a you know, public official position, right, 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:28.160 you have people coming at you all the time about 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:30.960 this and that, and and if the word is out 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:36.240 that you're, you know, financially struggling or could be, you know, 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:40.240 there's the potential for for someone to dangle something in 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:43.320 front of you that could compromise you, right Whereas, hey, yeah, 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:46.239 you know we can if you do this, then you know, 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:49.680 some sort of payment comes your way if you vote 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:52.040 this way kind of thing. So that's why I think 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:55.200 it's it's well within bounds for you to ask those 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:58.600 questions because you know, we've had a history here, like 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:02.480 not long ago of book officials being compromised for things 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:05.480 money and otherwise. So I think it's a it's a 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:06.160 valid question. 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:12.000 Okay, you know ed you do? You feel similarly well, and. 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:16.400 You asked the question of did you go too far 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:18.720 one way or the other? I see it sounds like 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:22.679 you did exactly your job, because if you're getting equal 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:27.160 pushback from both sides, sounds like you just reported the story. 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:32.280 And if you know what I'm saying, if if nobody, 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:35.000 if nobody's siding with you, you did your job as 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:36.000 a reporter, is my. 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:36.960 Is my take. 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:39.679 I think Dad had probably heard me say this, your 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:42.280 wife that if I've ticked off both sides equally, I 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:43.320 know I did it right. 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:45.840 Correct, right, And that's why you being married to a 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:47.760 former reporter, I know that to be true. 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:51.360 You know, I think everyone at this point knows I'm 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:54.080 married to someone who's an elected official, and I had 0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:58.080 to think from his perspective, like, what would happen if 0:19:58.119 --> 0:19:58.680 it's for him? 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:03.200 I do believe if this were him, they would have reported. 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:09.400 That one thousand percent. Okay, oh for sure, especially well, 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:10.520 you know, yes. 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:16.080 Yes, yes, right, and it would be like a really 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:19.119 awful picture of him like pointing his finger or something. Anyway, 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:21.520 I do believe, like what you said, that there is 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:24.480 that fear that if you are an elected official you 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:32.120 have you can be compromised by having debt debt debts, 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:34.680 And I think that that is it's a real thing. 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:38.600 And let's hope that that does not happen often in 0:20:38.800 --> 0:20:42.600 local so it doesn't happen like at all, But we 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:45.080 know we're not naive enough to believe that that's true, 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:48.720 so it can happen. We certainly are not saying that's 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:52.600 what's happening, but certainly knowing that information is important. 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:56.760 I think, yeah, And there I guess give the mayor credit. 0:20:57.040 --> 0:20:59.760 You know, it wasn't like he played some ultra victim 0:20:59.840 --> 0:21:00.560 car thing. 0:21:00.840 --> 0:21:01.040 You know. 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:04.640 Now, the story about the auto pay I think there's 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:06.800 a lot of holes in that because apparently when you 0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:09.080 get your car repoe that they don't want to repel 0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:11.639 your car, right. They they call you, they text you, 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:14.040 they email you, they come to your house. His name 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:16.760 is aftab Pirival. There's not like there's twenty seven of 0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:20.240 them in downtown Cincinnati, So that's a little flimsy. But 0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:22.400 other than that, I guess it sounds like I didn't 0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:24.399 watch in your room, But it sounds like he you know, 0:21:24.440 --> 0:21:26.800 it wasn't like he was, you know, trying to you know, 0:21:26.840 --> 0:21:29.400 play some victim thing, which I'll give you credit on that. 0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:31.439 I will say this. 0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:34.440 He did own it, you know, he he he called. 0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:36.800