1 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: We always love having Greg stebin join us our business Insider. 2 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: You can follow him on blue sky at Greg g 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: r E g G Steven ste b asn't boy bas 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: and boy e n all Right, a couple of articles 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: before we get going with Greg. Earlier this week, Doug McMillan, 6 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: who is the CEO of Walmart, had this to say 7 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: about AI. And we're talking a lot about AI. He says, 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: maybe there's a job in the world that AI won't change, 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: but I haven't thought of it yet. Meanwhile, over at Forbes, 10 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: a very different sort of take an article called how 11 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: small Businesses are really Using AI? So, Greg Steben, what 12 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: can we learn from these two extreme views about artificial intelligence? 13 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: Well, so, the interesting thing is Walmart is throwing a 14 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: lot of money at AI. And if you're wondering, like, 15 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 2: where's the job growth opportunity? And I know we've talked 16 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: about this before, it's AI. Learn to use AI. Learn 17 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: to make what are called agents, be an AI consultants, 18 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: whether on your own or inside of your company, so 19 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 2: that you're the person they call when they want to 20 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 2: make something happen using an AI platform, or maybe even 21 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: deciding which AI platform should we use? So that's in 22 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: the world of Walmart. They have lots of money to 23 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 2: throw at it, and they, I'm sure believe that by 24 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: spending a lot of money on AI, it will give 25 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 2: them a competitive advantage over somebody I don't know who, 26 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 2: maybe Amazon, maybe you with a storefront in Cincinnati. Small business. 27 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: This is the Forbes article. They interviewed a bunch of 28 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: small business owners and it's exactly the opposite. It couldn't 29 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: be more different. The small business owners are saying, yeah, 30 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: it's it's like a little better Google Search. Maybe it 31 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: saves me ten minutes a day. 32 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 3: Now. 33 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: I would listen to the ten minutes a day part 34 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 2: really carefully because one of the questions you want to 35 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 2: ask yourself is for them to get it to save 36 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: them ten minutes a day, how many hours did they 37 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: spend or get someone to spend making it save ten minutes? 38 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: Did they invest ten hours to get ten minutes? And 39 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: how much time? And do they This happened to me yesterday. 40 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: I like said, oh, I'm going to see if I 41 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: can make AI do this thing that. 42 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 4: I do every day. 43 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 2: I download some information from a website. I spent two 44 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 2: hours trying to make it save me five minutes a day. 45 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 4: Yep, yep. 46 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: You know we've all been down that rabbit hole, right, 47 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 2: so you know, and here's the thing, they're both right. 48 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: That's what's interesting. You have to figure out for yourself 49 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 2: in my life, my career, my business, whatever. You got 50 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: to look at your circumstances and say, what's the right 51 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: approach to this to save ten minutes a day? Or 52 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 2: does my business or my career warrant throwing everything at 53 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: this like Walmart is and making the most of it 54 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 2: because it's going to be a game changer and no 55 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,119 Speaker 2: one will know except you. Only you can evaluate your 56 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: circumstancestances to determine what the right way to approach it 57 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 2: is right now. And I say right now because in 58 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: three months or a year, it might change it it 59 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 2: will change again. 60 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:26,839 Speaker 3: Well. 61 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: You know the thing is, though, Greg, I mean when 62 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: you're talking about Walmart, man, I mean you are talking 63 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: about basically a military force of people who could go 64 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: do this stuff for you, right as opposed to you know, 65 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: me who owns the main street fill in the blank 66 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: whatever the business might be. Right, So, I mean it's 67 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: almost apples and oranges in some case, but in other cases, 68 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: or you know, it's not. 69 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 4: Right. 70 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: Well, so when I say it's kind of, it depends 71 00:03:56,200 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: on your circumstance or your circumstances. Of the factors in 72 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: your circumstances is you. Some people will love to roll 73 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: up their sleeves and mess with this stuff and put 74 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: it to work and maximize the value, and some people won't. 75 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 2: If you're not going to be good at this or 76 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: embrace it or be excited to delegate it to someone else, 77 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: you should figure out a way to avoid it. Or 78 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 2: if it's inevitable, you've got to deal with that too. 79 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 2: So you are one of the factors. You know, if 80 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 2: you want to stay up until four o'clock in the 81 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 2: morning on Friday night making something work a little better 82 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: at your job or your company, then you should absolutely 83 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 2: embrace AI. You're going to learn a lot of stuff, 84 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: and it's going to be useful for you. Even if 85 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 2: some of the things you try fail, You're going to 86 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 2: learn overall to do things better. But again, if you 87 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 2: have no interest or it's going to irritate you, stay 88 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: away and figure out another way to approach it. Okay, 89 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 2: but but let meself out of the picture. 90 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: Okay, But look, there are some people out there who 91 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: are just wrestling with the the idea of what AI is, right, 92 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: I think that's safe to say. So with that in mind, 93 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: could you give us a few ideas for how we 94 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: I might start using AI so we can begin to 95 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: understand for ourselves how it might fit into our lives, 96 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: or our careers or our business. 97 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 98 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 2: So, the next time you have a task to accomplish, 99 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 2: it can be a personal thing, it can be a 100 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: work thing, just say to yourself. Just get in the 101 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: habit of saying to yourself, do I think AI could 102 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: help me with this? And then open your browser and 103 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 2: go to chat GPT. It's free, open perplexity, it's free, 104 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,799 Speaker 2: open one of There's hundreds of these things. Just go 105 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: and start using them, and you know, ask yourself, is 106 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: this a task that AI can help me with? Challenge 107 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 2: yourself to find ways to use AI to do things 108 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 2: you think AI couldn't help you do. Go there and 109 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: try things and just fail and learn along the way. 110 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 2: I really mean it's important for you to understand whether 111 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: you have a stomach for it or not, because if 112 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: you don't have a stomach for it, you need a 113 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: different plan and you're not gonna know until you try it. 114 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 2: You may think you're gonna hate it and go, oh, 115 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 2: this is actually pretty amazing. You may think you're gonna 116 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 2: love it and start using it and go, I hate 117 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: this thing. It's important to know that right now. It's 118 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 2: really important. 119 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: What is the most basic And I'm going off script 120 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: here because you and I try to put together some 121 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: bullet points before we do this show each and every year. 122 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: But give me the most basic thing that you have 123 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: asked I A to do. I mean the most fate, 124 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: could be personal, could be business. Can't give me just 125 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: something simple for the guy prea there who's like, Okay, 126 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to give this a shot. 127 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 2: I'll give you a great example. 128 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 4: Go to it. 129 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: So there's a there's an AI platform called Perplexity. They 130 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 2: just launch their own browser. I really it's called Commet. 131 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: Encourage people to go get it. If you need an invitation, 132 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: come find me on blue Sky. I have five invitations 133 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 2: to give them away. I'll give them away to the 134 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 2: first five people that contact me at Greg seven on 135 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: blue Sky. So I encourage you to use Perplexity or 136 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: use their browser. And here's an example they give that 137 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: I think really drives home what it can do. Open 138 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: the browser and type this in plan trip for me 139 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: from Cincinnati to New York City on July fir twenty 140 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 2: twenty six. 141 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 4: How about that. 142 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: You know what it takes to plan a trip right? 143 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 4: Oh boy? 144 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: Oh you know blah blah blah blah. You know it 145 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: could take three hours to figure this all out and 146 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 2: just see what it does. 147 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: I can't wait to try it because I'm in that world, 148 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: I mean, and I'm being totally open and honest where 149 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to fool around a little bit with it, 150 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: so like that's a kind of thing I would have 151 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: never thought of to do, right, Yeah, okay, And. 152 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 2: What's interesting about perplexity in particular. One of the reasons 153 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: I really like it is it you watch it going 154 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: through the steps step by stick. It doesn't just give 155 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: you the answer. It says, I'm opening a travel website 156 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 2: now thinking I'm typing in our dates, and you're literally 157 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: watching it on a small little screen, so you're you're 158 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: watching it do the same thing you would do, only 159 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 2: it does it one hundred times faster. 160 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: That's great stuff. That is great stuff. Greg Steban, You're 161 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: the best man. Love having our chat at each and 162 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: every week and hope you have a great rest of 163 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: your week and a great weekend. 164 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 4: Thank you. 165 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: It's great to be here. 166 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 4: Tell you what that guy is on his game? 167 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: Man, I really look forward to our conversations with him 168 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: on a weekly basis because he just brings such a 169 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: His background is so interesting if you look him up, 170 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: Greg Steban just such an interesting mind. Some of the 171 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: things he thinks of I don't know about you. I 172 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 1: would have never thought of them. Maybe you're all over them. 173 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 3: But money, and don't talk about politics. I did all 174 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 3: three of the Politics can be so divisive. I think 175 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 3: a lot of people are like red or they're blue, 176 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 3: and you know, many of us are just disillusioned. I 177 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 3: always joke and say that politics comes from two words 178 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 3: historically poly meaning many ticks meaning bloodsuckings. Yeah, there you go, 179 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 3: but really, Godynomics is the idea that capitalism is not 180 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 3: just a good idea, it's God's idea and it's built 181 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 3: on three fundamental principles. Property rights, twenty percent of tenk commandments, 182 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 3: addresses that don't steal people's stuffed on, envy people's stuff. 183 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 3: It doesn't built on incentive bibles. Is you don't work, 184 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 3: you don't eat and be like the aunt not the sluggards, 185 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,599 Speaker 3: and also built on liberty. So it's really Godnomics is 186 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 3: about liberty, productivity, and generosity. It's something we used to 187 00:09:55,200 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 3: call common sense, but sadly it's not common anymore. So anyway, 188 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 3: a lot of people ask me questions about not just 189 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 3: personal finances, but kind of a macro perspective. Does God 190 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 3: have to say about how nations run and how government's run? 191 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 3: And so I did a whole series called Godenomics. 192 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 4: What would God? 193 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 3: Says John Kaynes, would God said? A Smith? Greenspan, Karl Marx, 194 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 3: stuff like that. So it's a sermon series that turned 195 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 3: into the book that I did with Random House. So 196 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 3: I'd like to get it right now. Is it creationtoday? 197 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 3: Dot org? Backslash store, that's the place that hold it 198 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 3: right now? So Christian Today, dot org and backslash store 199 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 3: you can get it's called Godenomics of the DVD series 200 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 3: with a small workbook, and then there's also a hardback 201 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 3: and back book too. 202 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 5: So well, you've got an incredible you've gotten incredible reviews 203 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 5: when you go back when it was on Amazon, and 204 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 5: you've gotten incredible reviews from people who are not necessarily, 205 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 5: and and and they say so in their review of 206 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 5: the book. 207 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: They may not be the most religious person in the world. Right, Yeah, 208 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: But like you said, there's some common sense stuff. I 209 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: want to get into a comple of a couple of 210 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: topics in particular that you get into in the book 211 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: god gnomics helping people versus enabling the needy. M h. 212 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. You know a lot of times people have a 213 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 3: sound but by kind of mindset that says, hey, we 214 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 3: should always help everybody. Well that's partially true. That's also 215 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 3: a good definition of codependency if you talk to any 216 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 3: good psychologists. So if you have a person who's a 217 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 3: you know, a habitual gamber, it's on more easy. You know, 218 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 3: at some point you don't keep getting money to the 219 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 3: gambler who's using their money away and they have to 220 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 3: get rock bottom. And so part of what you're trying 221 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 3: to do is discern, like, for example, when somebody is 222 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 3: doing something, is this going to be productive? Am I 223 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 3: reinforcing their bad habit and I reinforcing their addiction? That's 224 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 3: an easy one. But even when it comes to helping 225 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 3: the poor, the Bible's pretty nuanced, and there's different types 226 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 3: of poor some people are poor because you know, crushing 227 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 3: weight or a load fell on them, and we need 228 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 3: to with that a doubt, help each other with those loads. 229 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 3: We need to say, how can I come alongside this 230 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 3: is an emergency situation or this is a season, and 231 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 3: how do we help you get the skills you need? 232 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 3: How do I classically teach you how to fish? And 233 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 3: I give you fish? Other times, the Bible talks about 234 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 3: a type of poor person who's like the sluggard versus 235 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 3: the ant. And it's so tired, he's so unwilling to 236 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 3: put the energy in the food is sitting in front 237 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 3: of him the proverbs, and you can't even scoop his 238 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 3: hand into the food to bring into his mouth. Well, 239 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 3: the Bible does not say that we should help that person. 240 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 3: That person needs to learn some discipline and learn to 241 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 3: actually learn how to work. Even Paul in Tessalonian says, 242 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 3: if you don't work, you don't eat. He says, I 243 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 3: didn't come to eat somebody else's bread. I came to 244 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 3: work for my own bread. So you really want to 245 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 3: balance this idea of how do I not cripple people 246 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 3: by doing the work they need to do? And again 247 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 3: that's in non religious terms. It's called enabling, it's called rescuing, 248 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 3: it's called codependency. So you really want to discern what 249 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 3: is the real need here, and how do I get 250 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 3: somebody self sustaining than to somebody who's permanently in need 251 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 3: of my resources. 252 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: All right, help me with this for a second, because 253 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: I've always wondered about it, and helped me with the passage. 254 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: But roughly in the Bible, there's a quote that talks 255 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: about how the wealthy man is not going to get 256 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: into heaven. It will only be those you know who 257 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: are meet so to speak. And I know I'm paraphrasing. There, 258 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: walk me through that, because you know, if you're somebody 259 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: who's you know, busted your tail to make a lot 260 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: of money, and all of a sudden you read that, 261 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 1: I mean you could interpret that as like, Holy Moses, 262 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: this doesn't sound good. 263 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 3: Well, the Bible is not anti money at all. In fact, 264 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 3: money is just fuel. It's fuel for fun, it's fuel forgiving, 265 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 3: it's fuel for being generous. So got the big fan 266 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 3: of money. In fact, most of the people in the 267 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 3: Bible who are followers of God, we're wealthy. Abraham was wealthy, 268 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 3: Job was wealthy. David was wealthy, Solomon was wealthy. Lydia, 269 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 3: a leader in the early Church, was wealthy. Paul had 270 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 3: a Roman citizenship and so that was very expensive. His 271 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 3: grain father may have actually made tempts for Mark Anthony, 272 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,599 Speaker 3: and he was therefore gifted very financially. So money is 273 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 3: not the problem. It's the love of money. When you 274 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 3: make money, you are king. When you make money your savior, 275 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 3: you think it's going to save you. And what's saying is, 276 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 3: when you have lots of money, you can delude yourself 277 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 3: into thinking that you don't need God. So that's the 278 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 3: real problem. When I was doing a serious godnomics, I 279 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 3: was in Proverbs and it says there's this business woman 280 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 3: and she considers a field. Okay, so the nature of 281 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 3: any economic system is producing. Why would she consider a field. 282 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 3: She wants to know if the price and qualities work 283 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 3: and will it produce. Then it says she profits. The 284 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 3: Bible celebrates profiting. Profiting is not a bad thing. That 285 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 3: means you made more money than it costs you to invest. 286 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 2: Or produce it. 287 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 3: So we should be celebrating profiting, not be demonizing it. 288 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 3: From her savings or from her producing and profiting, she saves, 289 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 3: she's got money, she invests in another vineyards. Let's do 290 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 3: another one of these things. She then gives to the 291 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 3: poor us twice she extends her hand to the needy. 292 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 3: So now the Bible's not anti finances at all, it 293 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 3: just is don't fall in love with money as the 294 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 3: main king of your life or savior of your life. 295 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 3: But without a doubt, make a lot, give a lot, 296 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 3: save a lot. That's what a famous theologian once said. 297 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 3: So how can we look at the world. We have, 298 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 3: the gifts, we have, the talents we have, and said, 299 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 3: how can I use the opportunities I've been given as 300 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 3: well as the talents I've been given, to be about 301 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 3: the work of doing something productive and creative in life. 302 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 3: And that's really why I wrote the book is I 303 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 3: felt like we're living in a world right now that 304 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 3: celebrates socialism, celebrates communism and Marxism and this kind of 305 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 3: envy driven approach, and yet many people are saying, I 306 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 3: want to make a difference. I have the sense that 307 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 3: I'm designed for work. And so the Bible says, whatever 308 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 3: you do in word or deed, do everything in name Lord, 309 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 3: which means you can be just as productive. You're doing 310 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 3: God's work. You're doing it right now on the radio station. 311 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 3: That is just as spirituals what happens on Sunday. I 312 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 3: imagine your Monday through Friday could be just as spiritual 313 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 3: as your Sundays or Saturdays, because you have a sense 314 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 3: that I'm doing the work on earth that my creator 315 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 3: allowed me to do it. Actually, it's very invigorating and 316 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 3: giving you a sense of purpose. Twenty four to seven. 317 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: Really okay, you talked about, you know, saving money, making money. 318 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: What about when we go out and start spending money. 319 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: What would God namics say about that? Because let's be 320 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: honest about it. I mean, most of us are guilty, 321 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: not everyone, but most of us are guilty of going 322 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: out and just spending money on a lot of stuff. 323 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: Chadovean we just don't need. 324 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 3: Well, of course, of course, I would say money is 325 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 3: like fuel, and it's fuel for priorities. So think of 326 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 3: your budget not as something that restrains you, but think 327 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 3: of it as a vision. This is the vision of 328 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 3: where I want my resources to go. So, yes, we 329 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 3: should provide for own family. So God says if in 330 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 3: Thessalonians that if you don't provide your own family. You're 331 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 3: worse than somebody who doesn't have any faith. So you 332 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 3: want to be somebody who's not consuming from the economy 333 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 3: with somebody who's producing. But also it says fun is 334 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 3: something that can be prioritized, and time with your family, vacations, 335 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 3: things like that can be something you can enjoy. Using 336 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 3: money for giving to the poor and the needy, really 337 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 3: discerning that wisely and making sure those resources are being 338 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 3: utilized to make the most amount of difference the idea 339 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 3: of faith. And you want to say, I want to 340 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 3: invest in things that are not just making a temporal difference, 341 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 3: but an internal difference. So don't just give any charity. 342 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 3: Check out the charity, make sure that you get a 343 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 3: high percentage of money going towards the actual resources, not 344 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 3: just for bureaucratic administrative costs, and say, can I make 345 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 3: a difference? But God also loves the arts, and so 346 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 3: if you love the arts and you have passions, and 347 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 3: maybe you have a passion for the single mom and 348 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 3: you want to help in that area, maybe sanctity of life, 349 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 3: and you want to help those who are helping save lives. 350 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 3: So I think if you think about money not as 351 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 3: oh I'm so guilty because I spent so much money 352 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 3: versus Wow, I have a vision for what's important to me, 353 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 3: what's important to my family, what's important to life, And man, 354 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 3: I'm getting a chance to use the money I've made 355 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 3: to do fun things, to do important things, to do 356 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 3: life enriching things. Suddenly money becomes a source of joy, 357 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 3: not a source of burdens. You know. 358 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:19,479 Speaker 1: I oftentimes when you go into a church, now you 359 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: don't do this, I should make note of this. You 360 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: don't do this at the Horizon Community Church. But churches 361 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: traditionally while you're sitting there and sometime, you know, between 362 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: announcements and the time you get to the serb and 363 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: part of the announcement is they start passing around a 364 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: tray and asking for money. Now everybody knows that, or 365 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: at least I think people who really pay attention. There's 366 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: some that are going to be turned off by that. 367 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: That's fine. But at the same time, godnomics has to 368 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: have room in there where you are taking some of 369 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 1: that money that you work in your tail off for 370 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 1: and you are giving it back to the church. Because 371 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: of some of the things, many of the things, virtually 372 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: all of the things the church is doing with that money. 373 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 3: Well, I think this way, you want to make investment 374 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 3: in things that make the most amount of difference. So imagine, 375 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 3: even if you find the best that's a bitcoined in 376 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 3: the video, or whatevert toke you invest in, it's still 377 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 3: going to be temporal meaning, you know, let's just say 378 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 3: you get a thousand year reign out of whatever that investment. 379 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 6: Is. 380 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 3: The thing about the church is we're trying to help 381 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,239 Speaker 3: eternal people make eternal decisions that end up having an 382 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 3: eternal difference. So of course, if you want to make 383 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 3: a huge of the things you give to giving to 384 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 3: the church, and a church that you feel like is 385 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 3: giving an eternal message, is helping people come to know 386 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 3: God and come to make a difference in their life. 387 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 3: Of course, that's God's plan a for changing the world. 388 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 3: As the church. However, it doesn't have to be guilt money. 389 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be shame money. It can be 390 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 3: joy money. God loves a cheerful giver. And so what 391 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 3: we do is I talk about money whenever the text 392 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 3: comes up, but I talk about it. I think with 393 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 3: the spirit God talks about it. He talks about money 394 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 3: a lot, which is how can we be cheerful givers, 395 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 3: and how can we be excited about how our money 396 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 3: is helping not only change people in this world, but 397 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 3: also in the next. 398 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 4: What would God say about taxes? 399 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 3: I got a full testra on that in the book God, 400 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 3: and so God say the irs. I really talk about fairness. 401 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting because when God laid out the 402 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 3: laws in setting up a government in Deuteronomy and Exodus, 403 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 3: he talked about a percentage based system. And so a 404 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 3: percentage based system is fair, right, because it's fair because 405 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 3: whether you make one hundred bucks or you make ten 406 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 3: thousand dollars, if everyone's paying one percent, you know, you 407 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 3: know it's a system. What's an unfair system is where 408 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 3: you have, Hey, the more you make, we're going to 409 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 3: penalize you and we're going to make you pay more. 410 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 3: But it's not the same system. So I do think 411 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 3: that if you look at the morality behind it, ultimately, 412 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 3: you know your income is part of your property, right, 413 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 3: that's your ability to make income. So I do think 414 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 3: the more we can honor people people who work really 415 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 3: hard for their income and don't keep any of it, 416 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 3: those are called slaves. So we'll just say that's keeping 417 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 3: zero percent of your income. You know somebody who can 418 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 3: keep one hundred percent of their income, that person's ultimately free. 419 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 3: So I think the more you can move toward freedom 420 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 3: people individually keeping more of their income. And obviously you 421 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 3: do need federal resources to protect us and keep us 422 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 3: all safe, and those limited things that government needs to 423 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 3: do that we all needed to do. I do think 424 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 3: having more of a fair system where it's consistent across 425 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 3: the board to be better. I cover that in an 426 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 3: entire chapter and go into a lot of detail, but 427 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 3: for the sake of this time, the shortest I could do. 428 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 3: We need to honor income and property rights of individuals 429 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 3: at the same time have a fair system where everyone 430 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 3: knows that the system's not punitive, and so then we've 431 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 3: picked on people can pay more because they're successful, or 432 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 3: people who pay less because they're in this particular loophole. 433 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 3: I think the more it's fair and consistent, the more 434 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 3: you'd have a a freer society and everyone would know 435 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 3: that it's being fair to everyone. 436 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: The name of the book is god Nomics, written by 437 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: pastor Chad Hoven. It is a fascinating book, and I mean, 438 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: you've had conversations with people like Mike Huckabee, Glenn Beck, 439 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: among others. I'd like to, if you don't mind, carry 440 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: this into next week because there are a couple of 441 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: things I want to ask you about that you got 442 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: into conversations with Glenn Beck about about how all of 443 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: this would tie into Monty Python, Bugs, Bunny, Milton Friedman. 444 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: That's quite that's quite a range right there now, Bugs, Bunny, Money, Python, 445 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: and Milton Friedman. But we'll do that again next week. 446 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear about it. 447 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 3: That'd be great, all. 448 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 1: Right, Pastor Chad Hooven kind enough to join us Plane 449 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 1: Glass Stained Glass. 450 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 4: We do it every Wednesday. Guys. 451 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: Awesome, all right, last check of the roads before we 452 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: get out of here, Chuck, how we looking. 453 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 4: Trying to get better? But there's a new accident. 454 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 7: He spound two seventy five and Taylor Mill that are 455 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 7: over on the left shoulder, so traffic is banking a 456 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 7: bit towards Turkey Foot. 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