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Speaker 2: You know, we're doing a radio show, right.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, what the topic was, like, you know, on vacation,

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Speaker 2: Freaking great, That's what Jack said.

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Speaker 3: I break Jack's I've been telling you that that's a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, especially when people are trying to text you about

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Speaker 3: You have said that you've been totally dialed in and

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Speaker 4: So now what's gonna happen is God, they're going to

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull you guys off he's gonna take three

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Speaker 1: for not respect right. I'm gonna show you mother efforts.

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Speaker 1: Somebody I know is going to get mad on the

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Speaker 1: It's not about texting, it's about being mad, because people, really,

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Speaker 1: Okay, so if I gave you a piece of pumpkin pie,

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Speaker 3: All of it is that because all of you love

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Speaker 1: Look again, I'm not trying to say I did not.

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Speaker 2: I think I might do it. Okay, now that's no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: But your primary drive, what you're saying is your primary

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Speaker 2: I think I would do it. And I don't think

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Speaker 4: Let me let me also throw this in there. It's

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Speaker 4: I should have had and I do believe that. I mean, Dick,

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Speaker 1: But let me just pick up and again, I'm not

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Speaker 2: I know you're not going to at all. Well, and

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Speaker 3: But you are tracking, You're you're consistent because when you

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Speaker 2: It's like, I don't even think.

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Speaker 3: I don't think for one second that you ever truly

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Speaker 1: I think that that Mariner lost to Toronto did something.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's ridiculous. So maybe you can get your

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Speaker 4: I don't think I've fully embraced the Seahawks championship. But

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Speaker 4: I saved the newspaper every single game that twenty thirteen season,

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Speaker 1: I loved it everything you're saying, Dick, totally with you, beautiful.

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Speaker 3: It's totally fine, and I would trade a World Series

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Speaker 1: But then you're talking about again doing what Jackson talked about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I mean it's funny because I hadn't

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Speaker 1: I want to know what it feels like, and I

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean, again, how many people have come

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Speaker 2: You like to see the Mariners of the World Series,

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Speaker 3: Man, He's going to stick around until we get there

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Speaker 3: That, But then you're gonna have the heartache though, of

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Speaker 1: I think there's something for me, and I just speak

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Speaker 2: So you know, it's interesting a lot different.

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Speaker 4: Remember that two weeks leading up to Super Bowl forty

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Speaker 2: Did you see that same thing this time? That's not

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Speaker 1: Well, listen, I'm the moron, all right, But what I'm

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Speaker 2: Who would trade a title? Real quick though?

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Speaker 3: If you replace the Mariners with the Blue Jays, would

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Speaker 2: I don't have any idea. I'd like to know. I

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Speaker 1: The problem is we don't have that, and we don't know,

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna get killed for it. And that's fine.

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Speaker 1: Kill me four nine, four or five one. Sam Perkins,

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Speaker 1: by the way, uh is gonna join us? Coming up

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Speaker 1: Now back to SOFTI and Dick on your Home for

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Speaker 1: the Huskies, Kraken and the twelfth Man Sports Radio, ninety

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Speaker 1: three point three kJ R FM. I remember like it

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Speaker 1: was yesterday, Dick Vane, thirty three years ago, nineteen to

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Speaker 1: the right corner, three ball corner pocket Sam Perkins with

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Speaker 1: Game two of the ninety three Conference Finals against the

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Speaker 2: We're gonna do this, Yea, We're gonna.

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Speaker 1: Play in the NBA Finals, and then the refs fed

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Speaker 2: Well, a guy that knows a thing or two about

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Speaker 1: He was in the house on Saturday for detl of

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Speaker 1: the radio show, Sam, how are you pal?

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Speaker 5: Oh good? Everything's pointing to everything's pointing to signs of yes,

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 1: Well, and let's talk about what we had over the weekend. First,

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Speaker 1: because we had a little bit of a reunion, right,

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Speaker 1: Gary was there, Sean was there? You were there to

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Speaker 1: support Debtlift on Saturday. The Husky basketball team didn't do

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure they were there. I know Sam was there.

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Speaker 1: You were there, though, Man, tell me about that about

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Speaker 5: Man, Yeah, I was there, and again I was appreciative

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Speaker 5: to even be there because Detlift I mean a friend

440
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Speaker 5: of mine. Best friend of mine reminded me, and then

441
00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,480
Speaker 5: Dettlift called me and told me that what was going on.

442
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Speaker 5: So I said, well, I'll be there. So yes, we

443
00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,000
Speaker 5: saw Gary and Sean and it was a moment that

444
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Speaker 5: you know, not all players go through that, you know,

445
00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,400
Speaker 5: retirement jersey thing, but it was good to see that. Look,

446
00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,119
Speaker 5: get this dude at the University of Washington and some

447
00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,879
Speaker 5: of the alumni players were there. It's a witness. But

448
00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 5: I had a good time and stayed with him for

449
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Speaker 5: the before and after, and it was a good time.

450
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Speaker 5: I took my daughter and everything was peachy. King.

451
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Speaker 3: Did you get a chance smooth to, you know, go

452
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Speaker 3: out with them, Did you have any kind of reunion

453
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Speaker 3: dinner or anything like that or is it pretty much

454
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Speaker 3: just an arena where you were talking to Debt and

455
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Speaker 3: Sean and Gary.

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Speaker 5: Well, I got the reception afterward, that's the only thing,

457
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Speaker 5: because I got there, you know, I couldn't get there

458
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Speaker 5: to the brunch, you know, sort of. But at the

459
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Speaker 5: same time, I did talk to some of the people afterwards,

460
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Speaker 5: and people that were involved with his foundation and people

461
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Speaker 5: that worked for him. We got a chance to sit

462
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Speaker 5: down and talk at the reception afterwards, and Madina is

463
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Speaker 5: it Ladina Medina Medina. And so with that said, I

464
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,200
Speaker 5: was out there with some friends and we all had

465
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Speaker 5: a good time. And like I said, getting to talk

466
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Speaker 5: to death look for a minute, was we haven't talked

467
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Speaker 5: in a while, but we always keep in contact.

468
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Speaker 2: No, I love that.

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Speaker 1: Well, give me a take on what you just said

470
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Speaker 1: there at the start when you said kind of feels

471
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Speaker 1: like the soups or maybe getting close to being back.

472
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Speaker 1: Some people are getting fired up, others are a little

473
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Speaker 1: skeptical still about the entire process. Or are you living

474
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Speaker 1: in a world Sam where you feel pretty comfortable that

475
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Speaker 1: we're getting closer to this thing happening than not.

476
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Speaker 5: Well, tell you the truth. The talk has kind of

477
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Speaker 5: died down a little bit. I don't understand why, but

478
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Speaker 5: with all the things going on in the NBA, with

479
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Speaker 5: the expansion of maybe possibly going overseas, and being that

480
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Speaker 5: Vegas is one of the prim premier places to start

481
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Speaker 5: having one, it seems like they concentrate on other things

482
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 5: now they just kind of relate and ship back with China.

483
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 5: It all. The talk has kind of died down, But

484
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 5: I think Seattle is still on the on the map,

485
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 5: but it's it's kind of like, we'll see what happens

486
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Speaker 5: with all the other things that I just mentioned. So

487
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Speaker 5: but all that said, I believe it's going to come back,

488
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Speaker 5: but not in the time that we Chinda we thought

489
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Speaker 5: it would be.

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Speaker 3: Sam. Where are you on the on the state of

491
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Speaker 3: the league right now? I mean, financially, it looks like

492
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Speaker 3: it's going gangbusters. I mean, the teams are making money

493
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Speaker 3: hand over fist. The attendance numbers are there, the viewing

494
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Speaker 3: numbers are there, but a lot of people are critical

495
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Speaker 3: of how the game is played. How would you you know,

496
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Speaker 3: how would you assess NBA basketball in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean it's making money, Like you said, hands

498
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Speaker 5: over fist. I mean, it's just it's just one of

499
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Speaker 5: those things where you can't be so critical because they are,

500
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Speaker 5: you know, at the at the end of the day,

501
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 5: making money, and teams are playing to the best of

502
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Speaker 5: their ability, and they're building new arenas for teams, so

503
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Speaker 5: it seems like it's going in the right direction. I

504
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 5: can't can't be so negative because you know, I was

505
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Speaker 5: part of the part of the employment of the NBA,

506
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Speaker 5: So I really believe that they are on the right track.

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Speaker 5: I mean it's different. Every year is going to be different,

508
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Speaker 5: every every decade, every five years is always going to

509
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Speaker 5: be a change. So the chain is for the best,

510
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Speaker 5: I guess in some ways because they got younger players.

511
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Speaker 5: Some of the new you know, Lebron is leaving and

512
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Speaker 5: somebody on that side of that, of that of the

513
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Speaker 5: echelon is going to be you know, coming kind of

514
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Speaker 5: like retiring in the next four or five years. So

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Speaker 5: I think that the young young, it's going to get

516
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Speaker 5: younger every time you come in every year because of

517
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Speaker 5: the fact that you have players leaving school after one year,

518
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Speaker 5: like this class coming in is going to be young,

519
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Speaker 5: so you'll see it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, Sam Perkins again is with us on on the

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Speaker 1: radio show, and Dick asked about the current state of

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Speaker 1: the NBA. How about your thoughts on the current state

523
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Speaker 1: of college basketball? And I still remember that story you

524
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Speaker 1: told a couple of years ago. Was it was it

525
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Speaker 1: a chicks butt orr chest that you signed on Bourbon Street, Yes,

526
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Speaker 1: right after you guys won the national title.

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Speaker 2: Remind me what that.

528
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Speaker 1: Was and how much money you could have gotten, maybe

529
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Speaker 1: Peyton Nil to do an autograph signing on somebody's face

530
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Speaker 1: forty years ago.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: The thing is, you all remember, hey, you told the story,

533
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Speaker 2: Pal wasn't me.

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Speaker 5: But you remember that that one thing stood out, I guess,

535
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Speaker 5: but it was after the it was after the championship

536
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Speaker 5: game against Georgetown, and we all decided to come back

537
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Speaker 5: home and back to the hotel rather than change change up.

538
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Speaker 5: And I guess we were walking that way, and I wasn't.

539
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Speaker 5: I wasn't the first one. I wasn't the last one.

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Speaker 5: But this couple wanted to be tattooed, so as when

541
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Speaker 5: she lifted up her skirt, the the butt cheeks was

542
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Speaker 5: already full, you know, with market So.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't believe I'm talking about this, but I

545
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Speaker 5: found the spot and just put my in issues because

546
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Speaker 5: my name was too long, so I didn't want to

547
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Speaker 5: be Yeah, they overly enthused, But it's just one of

548
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 5: those things where as a young, young Southmore, I just

549
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 5: couldn't believe what I was signing. Some of the things

550
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Speaker 5: we go through.

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Speaker 2: Listen, listen, man, I'm fifty two years old.

552
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Speaker 1: If some random gal asked me to sign her butt,

553
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Speaker 1: I'd be pretty fired up myself, even at this age,

554
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Speaker 1: for God's sakes.

555
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Speaker 5: But wow, well, her man, let us let her do it.

556
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Speaker 5: I mean let I mean, I couldn't believe it.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: Well, how about how about what's going on now with

559
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Speaker 1: college basketball?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 1: We got we got guys that are making millions of

562
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Speaker 1: dollars a year and not performing. Uh. We're seeing a

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Speaker 1: lot of them in Seattle on that Husky basketball team

564
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Speaker 1: that you saw over the weekend. Got guys getting up

565
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 1: and just deciding they don't want to play halfway through

566
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Speaker 1: the year, like the kid from USC who were supposed

567
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Speaker 1: to see tomorrow but he's no longer on the team.

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Speaker 1: What's your take on the state of college basketball today?

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Speaker 2: Sam?

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Speaker 5: Well, the college basketball is fine. It's just the NIL

571
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Speaker 5: that was implemented, the gratitude that they're getting. Now they're

572
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 5: taking more advantage of it because they pulling themselves out

573
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Speaker 5: for some reason unknown. But I think the NIL has

574
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 5: has to tamper down a little bit or put a

575
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Speaker 5: cap or something to the point where these players are

576
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Speaker 5: not getting out of hand. Because you know, there was

577
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 5: a guy for football. If I can change the subject

578
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 5: a little bit, he's in his eighth year or ninth year,

579
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Speaker 5: going into another year of eligibility. So the courts are

580
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 5: going in the courts are getting involved, and now it's

581
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 5: it's kind of you know, flooded the and messing up

582
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Speaker 5: the arrangement of the NIL posture. And I think that

583
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Speaker 5: when you do something like that, it gets more political.

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Speaker 5: And then you have guys, like you said, sitting out

585
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 5: transferring seeing where they can get the most money, and

586
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 5: that kind of hurts. That hurts the game integrity because

587
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 5: college was at once amateur status, but now that you're

588
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 5: getting paid a little bit, it seems kind of flooded

589
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 5: and kind of like messed up the U I guess

590
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 5: the scheduling of what they were really supposed to be doing.

591
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 5: And the NILS had made a dent into everything's thinking

592
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 5: about getting paid and how they get paid and who

593
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 5: gets paid more and all that. All that involves kind

594
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 5: of some misdisruption and the integrity of the NCAA.

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Speaker 2: Well, Sam, one more from me.

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Speaker 3: We've got the high school state basketball Tournament this week

597
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Speaker 3: at the Tetome. Your guy Bruce Lloyd will be covering

598
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 3: it for the Final Score dot TV. I'll be doing

599
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 3: games for kJ R. Take us back to the late seventies.

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Speaker 3: What do you remember about being the on the All

601
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Speaker 3: Tournament team? In the New York State High School basketball tournament.

602
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 3: Back when you were a McDonald's All American at Shake or.

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Speaker 5: High well, it was it was crazy because the way

604
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 5: it is now, it's more of a popularity thing and

605
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 5: you want to make it. But when you go out

606
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 5: there and just do what you gotta do and not

607
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 5: think about awards or accolades and things that nature, it'll

608
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 5: come more naturally and you surprise yourself. And that's what

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00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 5: That's what happened when when I was part of part

610
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 5: of the game in high school. High school was probably

611
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 5: more of a place where it was was just solely

612
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 5: just playing basketball, and that's all I did because of

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00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 5: the fact that I enjoyed playing in high school competitive competition.

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00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,719
Speaker 5: And at the same time, when you have you know,

615
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Speaker 5: if you get awarded and be presented by by being

616
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Speaker 5: on the on the All American teams and the playoff

617
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 5: teams and things that nature, be named as a player,

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Speaker 5: you know, standing out outstanding player, it's good. And but

619
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Speaker 5: I think they live for it now and people get disappointed,

620
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 5: you know, because of the fact they don't make it.

621
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Speaker 5: But it's so much, so much talent out there in

622
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 5: high school now. Anyone can make it. All you got

623
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 5: to do is relax and just play the game. If

624
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 5: you make it, congrads. If you don't, congrats, you know,

625
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 5: if you still play to the best of your ability.

626
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 5: But I was just solely playing and then found rewarded

627
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 5: being rewarded afterwards that I made the All Tournament team

628
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Speaker 5: and things of that nature.

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Speaker 2: I love it. Hey, Man, great to hear your voice.

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00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: You sound exactly the same as you did thirty five

631
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Speaker 1: forty years ago.

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Speaker 2: Man, keep it going.

633
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Speaker 1: Good to see you this weekend over at heck ed

634
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Speaker 1: and we'll talk down the road.

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Speaker 2: Man, appreciate it. You appreciate you having me, you bet.

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Speaker 1: Sam Perkins with us. Great to hear his voice, Man,

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Speaker 1: big smooth with us here on the radio show. Was

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Speaker 1: in town with Gary and Sean supporting Detla FU on

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Speaker 1: Saturday over at you dub. All right, here's what we

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Speaker 1: got texts coming up next, do a little fun with

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Speaker 1: audio at five thirty tonight as well as we continue

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