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Speaker 1: Certainly a lot going on in sports, joining me now

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Speaker 1: calling his Paul Seiss, Paul, did the US baseball team choker?

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Speaker 2: We should be proud they represented America? Which is it?

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Speaker 3: You know, if they would have lost the Dominicans. Looking

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Speaker 3: a pass because Dominicans rosters loaded. But losing to Venezuela,

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Speaker 3: they choked. And you know, you know, the ultimate choke

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Speaker 4: Ye, Aaron.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't think of her first name. All right, you

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Speaker 3: know what's that?

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Speaker 2: I said? All rise, you know, for the Judge, but

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, all rise for Aaron Judge. Well, you know,

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Speaker 3: he sat down a lot because he didn't do anything

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Speaker 3: are some people are trying pooh pooh, you know, those

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Speaker 3: you might as well go out and try and win them, right, well.

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Speaker 1: Right, but then you have the stuff like guys are

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Speaker 3: Right, And I think that's that's that's valid mark that,

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Speaker 3: you know, and I say the same thing about you know,

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Speaker 3: I just don't love the fact that you stopped your

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Speaker 3: it's sort of like, you know, people would probably want

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Speaker 3: Put hockey in the Summer Olympics. Yeah, you can't.

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Speaker 2: You can't do that.

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Speaker 1: I think part of the reason that it overshadows the

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Speaker 2: It's winter. Don't get me wrong, I don't.

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Speaker 1: Like those events because I support the Penguins and Sidney

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Speaker 1: Crosby couldn't play for a month because of something that

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm just saying, like to me, this event, you

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Speaker 3: know what, why not have it over you know, why

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Speaker 3: You know, have it have it at the you know,

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Speaker 1: Well, what they're gonna do eventually is they're gonna take

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Speaker 1: the World Baseball Classics. Say they have it at the

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Speaker 1: same for baseball. These leagues, Paul, are creating events that

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Speaker 3: Right, And that's what I don't really understand. I mean

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Speaker 3: At some point. If you're you know, the NHL, you say, okay, well,

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, my point has always been with the hockey

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Speaker 2: General, Paul.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, unfortunately, Mark rets baseball these days. And

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Speaker 3: It makes no sense to me. Well, I mean, I'll

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Paul's Eich from the Post because at

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Speaker 1: this segment, brought to us by eighty four Lumber Dynasty

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Speaker 1: partner the Pittsburgh Steelers, everybody is trying to act as

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Speaker 1: if the Pirates and Connor Griffin might reach some kind

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Speaker 3: Now, right, I mean they've made some deals like that McCutcheon. Right,

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Speaker 3: What was it do with the tattoo of lips on

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Speaker 3: Say his face anyway, I can't think of his name,

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Speaker 3: and they did it, and they did one of those

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Speaker 3: those deals. But if you're Connor Griffin, the difference between

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Speaker 1: They're not even talking about it, so why it's constant

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Speaker 3: There for Mike, well exactly, they act like what again,

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Speaker 3: you know, and I don't know. I don't know Connor

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Speaker 3: Griffin's uh, you know, in McCutcheon's case and in Martay's case.

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Speaker 3: Those guys never make those deals. So and I and

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, everybody's losing their mind because Denver traded

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Speaker 1: Well, my point is I'd rather have the better player

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Speaker 2: Well, they're trying to win now.

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Speaker 1: But I keep being told the Steelers are trying to

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Speaker 4: Tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Paul is always great stuff. We'll do it again next week.

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Speaker 2: Hey, let me get back to that Jack Ugh scenario.

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Speaker 1: So I don't mind the puck being displayed somewhere.

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Speaker 2: Mike.

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Speaker 1: What's your take on the US losing in the final

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Speaker 2: Did they choke? Did they get beat by a good team?

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Speaker 2: A little of both?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 6: I think that primarily that it's it's just a different

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Speaker 4: I mean, Scooball's been back in Detroit's camp.

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Speaker 6: For how long now, And I appreciate that the scheme's

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Speaker 6: I thought that was impressive after originally them saying or

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have mixed emotions about the tournament. I enjoyed

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Speaker 4: Well, I will say that that it does.

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Speaker 6: What showed last night was a appetite for that kind

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Speaker 6: Well, I thought they did, but when Harper hit his

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Speaker 4: But I thought it was a great atmosphere. And I

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Speaker 4: So I'm going to watch it. I'm going to make

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Speaker 2: I don't think exposure.

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Speaker 4: I don't find that at all.

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Speaker 4: And I was like, no, man, you don't get it.

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Speaker 4: And I think last night that that was possible as well.

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Speaker 6: It would have been more possible if it were the

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Speaker 4: It was very competitive.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't think a casual fan knows the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they certainly were. They got they got handled.

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Speaker 6: the the Venezuelans and the crowd were fabulous and they

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Speaker 6: were so passionate, but there was a real momentum there

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Speaker 6: a real opportunity there for the US had Judge come

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Speaker 6: up and done something, and he struck out and it

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Speaker 6: all went right down the drain. And so I do

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Speaker 6: think that they really struggle. Their struggle. Certainly, Venezuela, from

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Speaker 6: that perspective, earned the title because they mowed through a

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Speaker 6: lineup that was loaded with Schwarber and the two I mentioned.

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Speaker 6: They had plenty of guys out there who could hit,

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Speaker 6: and none of the what the exception the Harper home run,

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Speaker 6: no one did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought Aaron Judge is the guy who came

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Speaker 1: out of this look in the worst. He was four

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Speaker 1: for twenty three in his only World Series, zero for

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Speaker 1: four last night, just just really what the cause down.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Mike the course of the Sporting News

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Speaker 1: brought to us by South Hills, Kia.

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Speaker 2: Mike, I want to talk about the Steelers off season.

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Speaker 1: Specifically, the big debate is who would you rather have

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Speaker 1: Michael Pittman Junior or Jalen Wattle? Which Tray was better

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Speaker 1: because Wattle's the better player. But here in Pittsburgh the

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Speaker 1: citizens say, well, con made a great deal. I'd rather

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Speaker 1: have the great deal. I'd rather have Jaalen Wattle.

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Speaker 6: Well, I Waddle is a better player and more of

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Speaker 6: a more of a threat in a sense. I mean,

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Speaker 6: Pittman's an excellent receiver who will get first downs, won't

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Speaker 6: break open the defense that often. That that was Alex

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Speaker 6: Pearce's job, Alex Pierce's job. Excuse me, in Indy, Pittman's

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Speaker 6: not He's not truly a possession receiver, but he's you know,

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Speaker 6: he's a little bit like hinz Ward. His breaks, his

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Speaker 6: game breaking plays are going to be twenty five yard passes,

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Speaker 6: whether they're touchdowns or or first downs.

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Speaker 4: That's what he'll do.

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Speaker 6: Those would be the breaking ones, and then the regular.

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Speaker 6: The regular Pittman plays will be twelve to fourteen yards

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Speaker 6: and those are useful. Yes, Waddle's a better player, and okay,

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Speaker 6: so he was available, but if you pay that big,

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Speaker 6: are you making your team better? Well, you're taking away

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Speaker 6: from one area in order to make this area better.

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Speaker 6: But honestly, certainly, certainly, after what we saw in year one,

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Speaker 6: I think Waddle is a better, better receiver.

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Speaker 1: My point is is the first round picks are such

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Speaker 1: an inexact science. Trey Wingo tweeted that of the thirty

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Speaker 1: two first round picks made in twenty twenty one, which

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Speaker 1: is not very long ago. Less than half are still

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Speaker 1: with their original teams, and the Denver choice they traded

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Speaker 1: is only the thirtieth pick. I think saying that Denver

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Speaker 1: made a less smart deal than the Steelers is just

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Speaker 1: flat out erroneous.

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Speaker 4: Well, I didn't they add in something else as well?

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Speaker 4: Wasn't there more than just a one?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was like a third and fourth two?

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Speaker 1: But nonetheless, I mean, and Denver, I'm told, wants to

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Speaker 1: win now, but the Steelers certainly are doing that, wanting

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Speaker 1: to bring back a forty two year old quarterback.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, if they really wanted to win now, they

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Speaker 6: might not bring back a forty two year old quarter back.

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Speaker 6: But uh, you know, that's that's that's part of the

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Speaker 6: of the limited quarterback market. I do think that that

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Speaker 6: certainly I had no problem with with Denver making that deal,

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Speaker 6: especially since.

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Speaker 4: It was only the thirtieth pick.

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Speaker 6: Uh and they and they and they had a desperate

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Speaker 6: need and even more desperate need for a legitimate wide

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Speaker 6: out play than the Steelers did, because if Metcalf were

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Speaker 6: on the Broncos, he would have been far and away

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Speaker 6: their best receiver last season.

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Speaker 4: So I don't have a problem with what the Steelers

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Speaker 4: did with with Men.

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Speaker 6: I thought they got him at a good price, that

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Speaker 6: they really firmed up their receiver situation. And if they

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Speaker 6: decide in round one or round two that there's a

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Speaker 6: if there's a there's a great talent available to them

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Speaker 6: in either of those, then I think that that would

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Speaker 6: I think that would pretty much complete their work for

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Speaker 6: the next several years.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no question.

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Speaker 1: And I think if they did get a good receiver

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Speaker 1: in the first or second round, maybe even the third,

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Speaker 1: that even though they wouldn't have a true number one receiver,

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Speaker 1: Mike could kind of do it by committee if they

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Speaker 1: had like the equivalent roughly of three number two's.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I think that's true. I mean, I

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Speaker 6: think the number one wide receiver thing is kind of

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Speaker 6: a modern.

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Speaker 4: Media invention to an extent. I mean, the Steelers had

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Speaker 4: Lin Swan and John Stalworth, who was number one.

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Speaker 6: I have no idea they were both number one, and

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Speaker 6: there were years like when when they won the Super

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Speaker 6: Row in OH five. I mean, I guess Heines was

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Speaker 6: the number one, but he wasn't a typical number one.

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Speaker 4: If he were, he'd already be in the Hall of fame.

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Speaker 6: He deserves to be, but he'd already be there because

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Speaker 6: he wasn't that kind of player. But they won a

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Speaker 6: super Bowl with him and Randal lel And so I

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Speaker 6: think if you have two high end receivers, especially too,

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Speaker 6: who theoretically compliment one another.

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Speaker 4: Because I already described what what what Pittman is. And

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Speaker 4: although he's DK is not exactly the player that has

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Speaker 4: been a A one for the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: He's just the number two. That's not a criticism. He's overpaid,

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Speaker 1: but that's not his fault.

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Speaker 6: But he's I mean, he's more than a number two.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he could still break a game open. He's

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Speaker 6: fast enough. He's just not He's not one of those

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Speaker 6: guys that like when they had when they had excuse me,

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Speaker 6: when they had George Pickens, they could just throw the

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Speaker 6: ball down the sideline and George would pull it out.

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Speaker 6: It didn't matter who he was against it, it didn't

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Speaker 6: matter where it was thrown. He was gonna catch it.

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Speaker 4: He just would. This was going to be a pain

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Speaker 4: in the butt on the way there and the way back.

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Speaker 6: So so I think that DK is a number one

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Speaker 6: in form, if not function, And I think you put

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Speaker 6: Pittman out.

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Speaker 4: There with him, and then you're then you're really good.

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Speaker 6: And if you, like I said, if I don't the

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Speaker 6: young man from USC for instance, if he happens to

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Speaker 6: be there, and if he happens to be as good

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Speaker 6: as the projections are, then maybe you're you turned from

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Speaker 6: being just fine finally at the wide receiver position to

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Speaker 6: baby being upper end.

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Speaker 2: Uh mike uh.

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Speaker 1: Sidney Crosby's going to play tonight for the Penguins first

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Speaker 1: game back in four weeks, exactly four weeks to the day.

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Speaker 1: That's how long he was projected to be out, and

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Speaker 1: sid certainly knows how to keep to a schedule.

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Speaker 2: But this debate came up on Twitter. Is there any

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Speaker 2: way Crosby ever elevates himself in people's eyes above Gretzki

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Speaker 2: or in Lemieux, the Big Three? Is that possible? Is

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Speaker 2: he just like a four or five type of guy? Period?

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Speaker 4: Are you reading my mind? Because I was.

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Speaker 6: I was coming back from Chicago on Monday night, and

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Speaker 6: I passed the Dick Sporting Goods display that's there now

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Speaker 6: with all the jerseys of all the champions, and I

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Speaker 6: looked at Sid's jersey and that exact thought occurred. To me,

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Speaker 6: based on what he's been able to do and how

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Speaker 6: he continues to deliver, and how he continues to deliver

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Speaker 6: at this age in somewhat the same way, maybe not

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Speaker 6: the exact same age as as Lebron is doing over

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Speaker 6: in the NBA. And I and that thought occurred to me,

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Speaker 6: is it possible that he could enter that that pantheon?

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Speaker 4: And I think that if this season goes as if

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Speaker 4: the if the playoffs go as well as the regular.

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Speaker 6: Season has, which would have them advancing at least around

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Speaker 6: and maybe longer. I think if that happens and he's

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Speaker 6: at the core of it, and I think you have

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Speaker 6: to start thinking that way. I don't think you can

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Speaker 6: keep that door slammed. With what he's done on the

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Speaker 6: international stage with the Penguins, I think you have to

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Speaker 6: seriously think and yeah, he's different than Gretzky and he's

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Speaker 6: different than Marios.

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Speaker 2: Oh, but that's what makes him great.

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Speaker 1: I've always said that Gretzky had the best vision, Mario

592
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Speaker 1: is the best finisher or was the best defenseman, and

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Speaker 1: since the best grinder, which he hates, by the way.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I know, but he's not really a truly a grinder.

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Speaker 6: He's just someone who plays the game at both ends,

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Speaker 6: and so therefore, I guess if you wanted to use

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Speaker 6: that as a scriptor but maybe you just say he's

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Speaker 6: the best two way player that has ever put Oh.

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Speaker 1: No, the best two hundred foot guy, I think is

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Speaker 1: the best way to put it. But here's my disclaimer.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it so much is about how the

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Speaker 1: team performs, although that's certainly if he gets a fourth Cup,

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Speaker 1: that would definitely open that door. Or you know, he's

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Speaker 1: had this point per game thing his whole career. If

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Speaker 1: he does that literally his whole career for however many seasons,

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Speaker 1: two three more, then that to me opens the door

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Speaker 1: because that's already unique. If he can do it into

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Speaker 1: his forties, that would be mind boggling.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that. I think that absolutely is the case.

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Speaker 6: It's exactly what I was thinking, uh the other night,

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Speaker 6: is that it's I think you have to consider that

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Speaker 6: because it's also a different era of hockey. It's not

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Speaker 6: it's not what Gretzky played in, and I'm sure Gretzky

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Speaker 6: would have been dazzling now and Mario would have even

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Speaker 6: I think in this era, would have even been better

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Speaker 6: than than Gretzky.

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Speaker 4: Uh, because.

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Speaker 1: Older players we've mentioned Or Mario and Gretzky. Mario as

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Speaker 1: is translates best to now.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, that's exactly what I feel.

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Speaker 6: I think I think Or would also be extraordinary in

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Speaker 6: this and because that the the offensive defenseman is still

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Speaker 6: a valuable thing.

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Speaker 4: Uh and and it's usually well rewarded.

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Speaker 6: But I do believe Sid has gotten himself into that

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Speaker 6: place where he's right there on the doorstep, and that

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Speaker 6: if he's able to sustain this, then he one hundred

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Speaker 6: percent that it should go from being a trio to

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Speaker 6: a quartet.

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Speaker 1: I asked Paul Coffee a few years ago, like inside

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Speaker 1: of five at the Mario Fantasy camp, how many points

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Speaker 1: Mario would get if he played now and he had

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Speaker 1: a great line. He goes out about one hundred and fifty.

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Speaker 1: He goes, am I playing behind him? And I go yeah,

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Speaker 1: he goes one hundred and seventy. And I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: I mean Cough too. I mean Cough played no defense.

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Speaker 1: But his skating would translate it today because everything's a sprint.

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Speaker 6: Now, right, Yeah, one hundred percent. He was extraordinarily gifted

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Speaker 6: and those teams would have translated to now too, because

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Speaker 6: you had Stevens the physicality he provided, you had such

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Speaker 6: great depth. I mean, goodness, gracious Trotz was on your

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Speaker 6: third line. On Francis was on your second line. I mean,

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Speaker 6: how many have ever had how many have ever had

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Speaker 6: three Hall of Favors.

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Speaker 4: Line up your first three lines? Those teams, we were

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Speaker 4: just breathtaking when you think back on it.

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Speaker 2: Mike is always great stuff. We'll do it again next week.

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Speaker 4: Sounds great, Mark, Thank you, Mike.

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Speaker 1: Of course, if the Sporting News uh, he's taping the

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Speaker 1: Liverpool games. I didn't bring it up. He's a red

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Speaker 1: uh one one on aggregate in the dying moments of

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Speaker 1: the first half. Get your calls in. Now it's time

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Speaker 1: to ask Mark anything that's a fun part of the show.

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Speaker 1: Eight three three four one two wxdx. That's a three

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Speaker 1: three four one two w xdx. Or you can leave

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Speaker 1: a talk back via the microphone icon at the iHeartMedia app,

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Speaker 6: Do we get It's the Woody Show tomorrow morning from

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Speaker 6: six till ten.

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Speaker 2: WHOA you got a day Wednesday?

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Speaker 8: Maybe names a resort where the day is yours to define?

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Speaker 8: A destination brimming with a extraordinary adventure.

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Speaker 1: And now the super genius Mark Madden, super genious, Yeah

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Speaker 1: Park welcome shot well.

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Speaker 5: By one Dytating, Dusty Road, Tomican dread so be it

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Speaker 5: baby the ex at one oh five nine, Well this

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Speaker 5: is going great.

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Speaker 2: One nil Liverpool at the half, one one on aggregate.

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Speaker 1: Most solemnist the penalty vert's got rob twice in a

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Speaker 1: row at the death. It just seems the kind of

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Speaker 1: thing we'll figure out a way to not win, because

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Speaker 1: we've been really good at that this year.

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Speaker 7: We right.

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Speaker 1: O's time to ask Mark anything brought to us by

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Speaker 1: People's Natural Gas, People's Hyphengas dot Com. Let's good to Harry, Harry,

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Speaker 1: ask Mark anything.

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Speaker 4: Mark.

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Speaker 9: You really can't understand why Susan offended when he called

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Speaker 9: him a grinder. That's like the media for hockey player

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Speaker 9: that you know goes on. It's not usually a goals not.

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Speaker 1: The way I say not the way I say it.

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Speaker 1: It means Sid's great along the boards. He has all

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Speaker 1: the correquisite skill of a star. But I think that's

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Speaker 1: the easiest way to describe him. Plus that he doesn't

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Speaker 1: like it makes it more fun.

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Speaker 9: Okay, yeah, I like that. Other guy's description of two

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Speaker 9: hundred feet players is all over the joint.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's just an easier description. Best grinder.

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Speaker 1: All right, you say best two hundred and player, people

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Speaker 1: ask what you mean, and you have to then go

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Speaker 1: into a description best grinder describes itself. Let's go to

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Speaker 1: Patrick Patrick Heron with double.

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Speaker 7: M Yo super Ge. I was listening to your segment

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Speaker 7: with Jesse Marshall yesterday and you guys were trying to

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Speaker 7: think of another goaltending duo that played that split time

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Speaker 7: throughout the regular season, and made me think of the

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Speaker 7: the ninety two Rangers, and I and I pulled up

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Speaker 7: Beasbrook and Richter Van B's were played forty five games,

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Speaker 7: Richter played forty one, and they both played seven games

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Speaker 7: in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: And how far did they get?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 7: Obviously, yeah, they won the President's Trophy, but they didn't

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Speaker 7: do too well.

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Speaker 2: They lost. They lost in the second round. Correct, like

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Speaker 2: in seven games? It sounds like correct?

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Speaker 7: Correct? And one quick thing you often bring up Fetter

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Speaker 7: Off and his approach to overtime by pulling the goalie, right.

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Speaker 2: He coaches Central Red Army.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in the in the NHL, if you pull the

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Speaker 1: goalie and the other team scores, you lose the loser point,

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Speaker 1: which sucks. You should be allowed to keep the loser point.

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Speaker 1: It would make overtime that much more interesting.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for the call. Yeah, Patrick, Yeah, that's in this.

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Speaker 1: In the KHL, the Russian league, if you pull the

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Speaker 1: goalie in overtime and the other team scores, you don't

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Speaker 1: lose the loser points. So Sergei feder Off, the former

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Speaker 1: Red Wing in Hall of Famer, if his team gets

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Speaker 1: control of the puck and circles back, he pulls the

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Speaker 1: goalie and has a four on three power plaint Now

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Speaker 1: the other team can hit the empty net, but Red

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Speaker 1: Army usually wins the game using that tactic, and I

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Speaker 1: find it interesting and exciting and something the NHL should

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Speaker 1: go with.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to a talkback.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Mark, do you think the next captain of the

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Penguins is already on the roster?

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Speaker 2: That's the question.

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Speaker 1: It depends how long Sid plays. I think by the

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Speaker 1: time Sid retires, I don't. Let's say Sid plays four

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Speaker 1: more years, Kendall will only be twenty two. I think

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Speaker 1: he has some captainy tendencies and some sydney like tendencies

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Speaker 1: as well, maybe Brunick.

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Speaker 2: So the answer is, I don't know it would.

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Speaker 1: I would think a young guy will be not the

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Speaker 1: captain after Sid, but the captain after the captain after Sid.

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Speaker 1: That there'll be like an interim veteran type guy that

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Speaker 1: they bring in, or maybe he's already there, like a

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Speaker 1: Brian Russ type guy.

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Speaker 2: But we'll see. Let's go to Brett Brett your own double.

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Speaker 3: M Hey Mark.

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Speaker 10: I was wondering what is the most beneficial or the

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Speaker 10: best change throughout your whole lifetime that you've enjoyed in

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Speaker 10: life most Whether it was a change and the way

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Speaker 10: music was recorded, or a change in sporting events, or

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Speaker 10: just anything in your lifetime.

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Speaker 1: That's really an abstract question. I'm not sure I could

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Speaker 1: answer it. I really liked that when Liverpool won the

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Speaker 1: Press League in twenty twenty does that count?

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Speaker 2: That was a nice change.

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Speaker 1: I really liked it when the Penguins finally won a

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Speaker 1: Stanley Cup after me waiting got sixty seven till ninety one.

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Speaker 1: How many years is that? Twenty four to twenty five years?

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Speaker 1: I really enjoyed that. That was a nice change.

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Speaker 2: Uh, let's go to a talkback, hey Mark.

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Speaker 6: David from Cannaberg.

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Speaker 3: Would you give Eric Carlson an extension after this year?

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Speaker 2: No, but I wouldn't trade him either.

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Speaker 1: Once he have two years left on his deal, I

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Speaker 1: think I won't give an extension, but I wouldn't trade him.

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Speaker 2: I mean, at the end of how many years does

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Speaker 2: he have left? I don't have that in front of me.

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Speaker 2: At the end of his contract.

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Speaker 1: If I could dump him for future assets, I probably would,

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Speaker 1: But Carlson's played great this year. I wouldn't be actively

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Speaker 1: looking to trade him this offseason. Okay, you got two

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Speaker 1: more years. No, I wouldn't trade him this offseason that

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Speaker 1: I can say for short, nor would I extend him.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to a talkback.

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Speaker 8: Hey, Mark, why doesn't hockey disclose the injury to the player?

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Speaker 8: I believe it would be just as easy to target

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Speaker 8: an injury playing football, So why doesn't hockey disclose it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they always say upper body or lower body because

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Speaker 1: they're schmucks who take themselves far too seriously and act

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Speaker 1: like they're keeping some state secret that if at leaked,

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Speaker 1: that could be exploited by the other team, that they

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Speaker 1: could target that knee or that shoulder or whatever the

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Speaker 1: frig But the players kind of know, just being out there,

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Speaker 1: how the guys playing and skating and protecting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you, but but hockey hockey.

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Speaker 1: The one thing I like about hockey don't like ambout

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Speaker 1: hockey is it's really self important in terms of maintaining things.

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Speaker 2: It's always done.

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Speaker 1: Football tells you exactly what the injury is why because

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Speaker 1: they embrace the gambling side of it.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to a talkback. Hey, Mark, this is flying

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Speaker 2: Ryan in the car.

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Speaker 6: If you could put the heavyweight title on any wrestler

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Speaker 6: wwwwf whatever than never won one before?

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Speaker 2: Who do you think would have been most deserving? Good day?

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Speaker 2: What do you mean right now? I mean right now?

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm not gonna say I put the world

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Speaker 1: title on him. Sammy Guivarre should get a bigger push

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Speaker 1: in aw.

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Speaker 2: ACE.

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Speaker 1: Austin should get a bigger push in ae W. In

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Speaker 1: terms of all time, I don't know. All time is

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Speaker 1: a long time and I don't really follow with that

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Speaker 1: Colostly anymore.

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Speaker 2: Scott Hall.

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Speaker 1: I would like to see Scott Hall get a run

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Speaker 1: as world champion deservedly.

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Speaker 2: So let's go to Alan Allen. You're on with double M.

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Speaker 9: Yes, Mark, who's a better therapist doctor Sidney Friedman for

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Speaker 9: doctor Leo Marvin.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's tough because Sidney Friedman did a lot of

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Speaker 1: people a lot of good on MASH. But I think

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Speaker 1: we both know that doctor Leo Marvin's a genius. Your

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Speaker 1: death therapy cured me, you genius. So I'm going with

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Speaker 1: Leo mar And thank you for the call. That was

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Speaker 1: a great question. All right up next, gonna talk more

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Speaker 1: about that WSBC final last night. We're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: SID coming back. That's huge. That's the biggest news that

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Speaker 1: they Sid back tonight at Carolina. Hear all the action

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Speaker 1: here on the X. All the lines are back like

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Speaker 1: they like them to be, except for that fourth line.

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Speaker 1: Can they find another level? Can they take what they

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Speaker 1: did hanging on which SID at five, three and three, two,

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Speaker 1: one and two with Sid Ngino? Can they take that

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Speaker 1: adrenalize and do even better? Can they chase down Carolina

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Speaker 1: for first place in

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Speaker 2: The metro If I'm dreaming, at least I'm dreaming big

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