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Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm WBS Boston's Radio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, we're once again talking about Donald Trump's designs on Greenland,

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Speaker 2: and it is pretty apparent, based upon his speech in

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Speaker 2: Davos today that the concerns that many of you expressed

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Speaker 2: last night were at least in the short term unfounded. Now,

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Speaker 2: if you feel that there's more to the story than

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Speaker 2: we're reporting on, that's fine. But let me just give

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Speaker 2: you a little bit of his speech today. A couple

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Speaker 2: of his is what we're talking about. This is the

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Speaker 2: Davos speech, and this is the rationale that the President

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Speaker 2: expressed today at the Economic Forum in Davos, very important

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Speaker 2: event every year. This is cut number forty eight, and

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Speaker 2: we'll get right back to phone call cup forty eight.

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Speaker 3: Greenland is a vast, almost entirely uninhabited and undeveloped territory,

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Speaker 3: sitting undefended in a key strategic location between the United States, Russia,

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Speaker 3: and China. That's exactly where it is right smack in

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Speaker 3: the middle. Wasn't important nearly when we.

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Speaker 2: Gave it back. You know, when we gave it back.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't the same as it is now. It's not

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Speaker 3: important for any other reason, you know, to everyone talks

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Speaker 3: about the manuals, there's so many places, there's so rare earth,

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Speaker 3: no such thing as rare earth. There's rare processing, but

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Speaker 3: there's so much rare earth and this. To get to

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Speaker 3: this rare earth, you have to go through hundreds of

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Speaker 3: feet of ice. That's not the reason we need it.

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Speaker 3: We need it for strategic national security and international security.

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Speaker 2: So but he did say that he forsworn military action.

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Speaker 2: Only line right now is six one, seven thirty. Let

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Speaker 2: me go next to Pete in South Carolina. Pete, welcome

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Speaker 2: back to Night's side.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Dan, good evening. You know, when this thing first

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Speaker 4: started up, when he first started talking about we're gonna

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Speaker 4: take Greenland. We're gonna take Greenland, I think people had

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Speaker 4: had in.

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Speaker 5: Their minds, you know, an invasion. Yeah, we're gonna take

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Speaker 5: it back, yep. And today he blew that all off

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Speaker 5: the table. I think, well he.

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Speaker 2: Did certainly for the moment. Now, let's be honest. The

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Speaker 2: president at times can be mercurial. He you know, whether

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Speaker 2: whether that is an asset or a liability, it's up

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Speaker 2: for people to to figure out. Uh. There he I

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Speaker 2: asked Alan Leventhal last hour of the former US Ambassador

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Speaker 2: to Greenland who was a Biden appointee. He obviously is

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Speaker 2: not a fan of Donald Trump, but he has a

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Speaker 2: perspective on the history of Denmark that none of us

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Speaker 2: have and its relationship with the country with the United States,

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Speaker 2: and he seems at least momentarily satisfied. Last night, he

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Speaker 2: was very concerned, and he expressed that concern very openly.

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Speaker 2: And there were a lot of people who called and

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Speaker 2: who were listening to this program tonight who listened last

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Speaker 2: night and called in and basically said, this was typical Trump.

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Speaker 2: He was going to do this. And I said, you know,

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Speaker 2: the implications, and the implications that Ambassador Levinthal talked about were,

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Speaker 2: what would that do? That would crack wide open the

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Speaker 2: NATO alliance.

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Speaker 4: That's what I was just going to bring up, Sure.

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Speaker 2: All sorts of reasons where I don't see even why

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Speaker 2: he raised it as a possibility, even why he even

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Speaker 4: I don't think NATO will ever go away. And I

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Speaker 4: think it's just a shame that the the war in

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Speaker 4: the Ukraine is just keep going.

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Speaker 2: On and on and on and on, and that's that's

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Speaker 6: The in there.

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Speaker 4: But that's a different story there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think that I think that's going to

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Speaker 2: end at some point, and it's not going to end

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Speaker 2: well because Russia is just is overwhelming and I don't

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Speaker 4: Well, well, I do have one other thing, just because

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Speaker 4: I was listening through the news, Dan, I'm going to

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Speaker 4: tell you right now, I am south of the storms

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Speaker 4: that you are going to get next week. So if

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Speaker 4: you want to come to South Carolina, you're more than welcome.

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Speaker 4: We can find you a place.

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Speaker 2: Well. I appreciate that, Peter Petere, I really mean it. However,

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Speaker 2: my company informed my station management in for me today.

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Speaker 2: They asked me if i'd be willing to sit in

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Speaker 2: on Sunday night from nine to twelve, and I will

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Speaker 6: The storm anyway, all right, go pat As you know,

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Speaker 6: I told you, you know once my Eagles lost on

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Speaker 2: will be starting for Denver on Sunday. Yeah, all right, Pete,

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Speaker 2: thank you much, Thanks.

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Speaker 2: Have a great weekend. Good night. Six one seven, two

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Speaker 2: like to hear from some of you who last night

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Speaker 2: the President's speech today. And if you are a critic

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Speaker 2: Clearly they have what's called a framework, or at least

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Speaker 2: they're saying they have a framework for an agreement. It's

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Speaker 2: important and I don't really want this conversation to EBB

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Speaker 2: because it's important to understand that what is at stake

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Speaker 2: Ambassador Leventhal, as well as Donald Trump, believes that circumstances

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Speaker 2: are changing in the Far North. There are waterways that

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Speaker 2: are going to open up. There's some Russian and some

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Speaker 2: Last night, people were very apprehensive, very apprehensive, not only

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Speaker 2: Back to the phoness we go. Let me go to

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Speaker 2: Linda in North Weymouth. Linda, thanks calling in your next

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Speaker 2: time night Side.

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Speaker 7: Hey, thank you, Dean. I never once doubted that he

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Speaker 7: was going to use force or any military ways to

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Speaker 2: So I said, I think, I think I think you

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Speaker 2: might have misspoke. You said you never doubted that he

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Speaker 6: He would, No, that that he.

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Speaker 2: Would You never doubted it.

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Speaker 7: No, No, no, I I didn't. I never thought that

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Speaker 7: is an amazing intelligent man. And well informed for never

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Speaker 7: any other president that we've ever had, very.

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Speaker 2: Very unorthodox, very different. And there are people who are

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Speaker 2: very put off by his demeanor, by his language, and

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Speaker 2: by part of a lot of his personal history. He

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Speaker 7: And one other thing with him, his main goal is

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Speaker 7: He knows how to deal and he knows how to

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Speaker 2: And the only thing that I would say, Linda is

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Speaker 2: you know, when he's selling Trump watches and Trump Coors.

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Speaker 7: if you can get through all that and and kind

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Speaker 9: See he's a soul.

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Speaker 2: If if you could put that aside.

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Speaker 7: Well yeah he is he but but you know, but

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Speaker 7: But and I don't think he's done with Greenland Jan

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Speaker 7: let us know. So I just think we just have

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Speaker 1: Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's go. We're gonna go next to Karen in Watertown. Hey, Karen,

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Speaker 2: welcome back. It's been a while. Welcome Happy new Year.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, happy New Year. I am. I'm not in Watertown now.

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Speaker 10: I'm in my hometown of Windsor Locks, Connecticut. Well, the

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Speaker 2: Well, I hope you, I hope you have a glass

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Speaker 10: Scotch.

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Speaker 2: But welcome. I don't but I'm not. I don't want

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Speaker 10: Home Sweets was built like in the seventies, and it's

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Speaker 2: So let me ask you this reasonably. You don't don't

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Speaker 10: Very reasonable? Oh my god, very reasonable. And I have

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Speaker 2: So it's a Hilton property, Okay, it's a fair helmet Sweets.

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Speaker 10: So it's like mid range, you know. And it's a

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Speaker 2: And so you're down there visiting family, you down there

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Speaker 10: As family, and there's an incredible sushi restaurant, like five

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Speaker 2: It sounds to me like you're in heaven right now.

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Speaker 10: I really am.

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Speaker 2: And I don't want to spoil you. Tell me what

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Speaker 10: I can't disagree more. Tell me, Oh my god, So

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Speaker 10: I don't know where they returned. They said they had

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Speaker 2: know you've had a rough day. You had to switch planes.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for being here. I didn't know if they

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Speaker 10: Purposes, that you it was something wrong with the electrical system.

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Speaker 10: They turned around, and I don't know if they went

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Speaker 10: You know you've probably had this all figure out. You know,

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Speaker 10: The president, So tell me.

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Speaker 10: The New York Times just ran something today saying he's

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Speaker 2: I think that what happens, to be honest with you, Karen,

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Speaker 2: I think that Donald Trump comes to the White House

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Speaker 10: But tell me what you think about what happened over

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Speaker 10: But that's that's what happens because of what happened today.

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Speaker 10: But what he does is he he will buy you know,

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know that. Look, I don't know that

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Speaker 10: He certainly does, I want to.

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Speaker 2: But I'm a buy and hold guy, so i haven't

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Speaker 10: I know you don't do that. You just do the

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Speaker 2: Well that's what I have. I'm not here. I'm not

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Speaker 2: get back to the fireplace. It's so great to hear

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Speaker 10: You know, Dan, I'm just real busy, you know. I

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Speaker 2: I hope you can at least listen. Okay, thanks, thanks

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Speaker 2: so much, garin happy twenty twenty six. And I hope

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Speaker 2: that all your dreams are fulfilled this year.

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Speaker 10: Fair enough, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, But it sounds like you're in a good spot tonight. Thanks, Karen,

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Speaker 2: talk to you.

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Speaker 10: That's so nice. That's so nice and cozy.

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Speaker 2: Let me go next to David in San frances Go

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Speaker 2: from Windsor Lucks, Connecticut to San Francisco. David, welcome back.

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Speaker 2: How are you, sir?

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Speaker 9: Well Verry Stan I heard.

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Speaker 8: I'm glad you mentioned the Greenland melting. Donald Trump, of course,

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Speaker 8: is a global warming denier. And if Greenland is melting

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Speaker 8: as fast as it is, and it is, it's going

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Speaker 8: to be available for mining companies probably within a couple

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Speaker 8: of decades. So Donald Trump is lying to the American

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Speaker 8: public by claiming that something that is definitely real is

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Speaker 8: not happening. And then he goes in and cash is

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Speaker 8: in uses US assets.

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Speaker 2: Second, Dave, if I could first of all this, okay,

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Speaker 2: the predictions that were made about climate change have long

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Speaker 2: since expired. Do I think the climate is changing? Yes,

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Speaker 2: I do, Yes, I do. Okay. Do I think that

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Speaker 2: in the last twenty twenty five years the the climate

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Speaker 2: has been the world has been warming, Yes, I do, Yes,

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Speaker 2: I do. But I also know that it goes in

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Speaker 2: these cycles, and we're about to be hit by a

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Speaker 2: major By the way, the weather here in New England

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Speaker 2: in the last this past two months has been really rough.

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Speaker 2: So take it easier to climate change. At least for tonight,

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Speaker 2: we're looking at a huge snowstorm coming in over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Uh and and and with with temperatures plunging below zero.

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Speaker 8: Well, I'm not gonna lie, and I'm not gonna uh.

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Speaker 8: The name of the game is is that he's using

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Speaker 8: our assets for his personal game. And that previous caller

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Speaker 8: is is definitely right.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So explain to me, how explain to me how that, David,

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Speaker 2: Just go ahead and and amplify on that a little bit.

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Speaker 2: How is he using our assets for his personal game?

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Speaker 2: You may like going in and pulling Maduro out of Venezuela.

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Speaker 8: Well, yeah, I mean, look at where's the cash now

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Speaker 8: of all of the oil that he's demanded from Venezuela.

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Speaker 8: Where's the bank. It's in Qatar, right, So this rat

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Speaker 8: is And you were talking earlier about his rise to

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Speaker 8: power in two thousand and eight or in two thousand,

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Speaker 8: early in his life. Paul Manifort and Roger Stone. There's

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Speaker 8: a book about them that came out thirty years ago

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Speaker 8: called The Torturer's Lobby and how they managed the rise

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Speaker 8: and management of dictatorships around the world, The Torturer's Lobby,

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Speaker 8: So where online you can read the whole thing. And

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Speaker 8: Donald Trums used them for the rise to power.

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Speaker 2: Can't take no, you want to talk over to me,

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Speaker 2: which is never a good thing to do. What I

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Speaker 2: was saying to you was simply this, if there were

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Speaker 2: credible books, there were United States attorneys, both Democrats and Republicans,

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Speaker 2: who would have had ample opportunity to have indicted him

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Speaker 2: when he was citizen Trump. And if you're talking to

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Speaker 2: me about a book book that was written, I'm not familiar.

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Speaker 2: I know Roger Stone's by reputation. He was a he

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Speaker 2: was a pr flack. Weird dude. Just let me just

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Speaker 2: say weird dude. Okay, but why was he not indicted?

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Speaker 2: Why was he not he was project?

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Speaker 8: Well, you're checking out, No, I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing something that you often don't do. David, I'm

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Speaker 2: listening to you. Don't accuse me of checking it out,

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Speaker 2: or you will be on the plank before the call

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Speaker 2: is over. Go ahead.

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Speaker 8: So Project twenty twenty five are the thugs that steal

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Speaker 8: the assets of nations?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 2: I have no idea what you're talking about, no idea

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Speaker 2: what you're talking about. Again, it's easy to make allegations.

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Speaker 2: You don't back anything up, That's all I'm telling you.

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Speaker 8: Are you gonna let me back it up?

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Speaker 2: Well, well, if you can back it up relatively succinctly

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Speaker 2: without referring to books that none of my audience has

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Speaker 2: ever read, and talking about authors who he has associated

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Speaker 2: himself with over the years. There's no question he's a

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Speaker 2: friend of Manifort, and he was a friend of roger Stone.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not going to judge somebody from a criminal

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Speaker 2: perspective based upon the company they keep. Go ahead.

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Speaker 8: Well, currency speculators at Roger Stone and Paul Manifort have

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Speaker 8: been in league with basically the Project twenty twenty five

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Speaker 8: crowd to steal the assets of whole nations. They've done

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Speaker 8: it for forty fifty years. Really, give me one.

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Speaker 2: Nation that they've stole as give me one nation that

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Speaker 2: they stole assets from.

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Speaker 8: Well, Philippines or Kina Fasso. I could there are eight

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Speaker 8: different nations or excuse me, six of them in Africa.

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Speaker 8: They were the cause of the twenty fourteen Ukrainian rebellion. Okay,

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Speaker 8: Hillary Clinton was on our side. They were on the

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Speaker 8: other side.

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Speaker 2: How come how is sixty minutes and the New York

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Speaker 2: Times and the Boston Globe and the Washington Post somehow

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Speaker 2: ignored these stories. I mean, you know, taking the I

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Speaker 2: read this stuff really closely, David, That's what I do

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Speaker 2: for a profession. I know that there are crazy people

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Speaker 2: on both sides of the spectrum. There are crazy people

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Speaker 2: to the right of me, and there are crazy people

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Speaker 2: to the left of me. Ah, And and they get

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Speaker 2: they get it. They get an opportunity to speak here tonight,

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Speaker 2: as you have. But unfortunately I am now into my

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Speaker 2: break and next time, let's.

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Speaker 8: Say, if I could finish with one last thing.

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Speaker 2: No, you can't finish with one last thing, because I'm

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Speaker 2: three minutes past my break and I don't want to

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Speaker 2: lose my job. He has some adver tizes are upset

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Speaker 2: that I let you finish with one last thing, and

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Speaker 2: their ad didn't run on time. I hope you can

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Speaker 2: understand that Musk has got I guess you kind of

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Speaker 2: go to the plank. I know he's going to get

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Speaker 2: the plant. Okay, have a have a good swim back, David.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry I didn't didn't work out for you tonight.

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Speaker 2: Coming back on Nightside.

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Speaker 1: You're on night Side with on Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go where we're gonna go next.

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Speaker 2: Let's go and talk with Jim in Virginia. Hey Jim,

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Speaker 2: welcome back to Nightside. How are you, sir?

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Speaker 9: Hey Dan, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 2: You're very welcome.

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Speaker 9: But your thoughts, I have three questions for you and

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Speaker 9: your listeners. Sure, I'm a I'm a regular, I am

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Speaker 9: a Reagan Republican. Okay, but my first question is, was

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Speaker 9: John McCain a loser?

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Speaker 2: No, no, that's my answer.

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Speaker 9: We're the boys were the boys on D Day? Suckers, Sir.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that he ever said that. By the way,

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Speaker 2: I'm not convinced he did say McCain. I heard him

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Speaker 2: say McCain was a loser. He has denied that he

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Speaker 2: has said the boys on D day, they were the

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Speaker 2: greatest general mind. Yes.

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Speaker 9: So his chief of staff, who was a marine commandant,

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Speaker 9: reported that he said that. So I guess you're saying

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Speaker 9: that he did not say that.

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Speaker 2: I did not hear him say that. I heard it reported.

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Speaker 2: He denied that. People that can overhear things I did say.

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Speaker 2: I did agree with you. I'm a reporter and so

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Speaker 2: I have a standard of accuracy and I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to agree to something and say, well, Dan Ray agree

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Speaker 2: to that because he must have said it. That's right,

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Speaker 2: that's my standard. Go right ahead. That's the third one.

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Speaker 9: Okay. So my last question is do you agree that

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Speaker 9: the person who brags about abusing women is a great

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Speaker 9: role model for our young men?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 9: Okay, so I listen to the show. I've listened to

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Speaker 9: the show since David Brudnoy. David would be rolling over

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Speaker 9: in his grave. I do not understand how anyone supports this.

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Speaker 9: My last question is does Trump regularly lie?

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Speaker 2: I can't. What What lies do you want to cite?

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Speaker 9: Well, for example, that we used to have Greenland and

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Speaker 9: then we gave it back to Denmark.

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Speaker 2: During World War Two, we assumed responsibilities militarily for Greenland.

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Speaker 2: Long long before long before Donald Trump was born. I

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Speaker 2: am not an expert in uh. He used the phrase

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Speaker 2: in that at the DeVos speech that we speech today,

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Speaker 2: that we were the trustee of Greenland. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if he was speaking metaphorically or factually on that, but

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Speaker 2: apparently when World War two broke out and we were

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Speaker 2: involved in World War two, we had some responsibility in

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Speaker 2: Greenland because apparently Germany had some designs on Greenland.

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Speaker 9: Sure, we had responsibility in France when we got there

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Speaker 9: and drove the Germans out, but we never had control

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Speaker 9: of France and we turned it back over to the

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Speaker 9: French government.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and we did the same thing with and we

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Speaker 2: did the same thing with Greenland. So again, you know,

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Speaker 2: you played a game with me here, Jim, which is fine.

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Speaker 2: You've insulted me, You've insulted my program. I run my program.

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Speaker 2: David Bredna was a dear friend of mine. I knew.

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Speaker 2: I knew David for forty years before he died. Okay,

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Speaker 2: and I suspect David Brennan would be very proud of

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Speaker 2: the tradition that we have carried on here at Nightside.

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Speaker 2: I have tried at Nightside to be truthful with people

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Speaker 2: and to tell people what I honestly think. At the

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Speaker 2: same time, oftentimes I can play Devil's Advocate with a caller,

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Speaker 2: because sometimes as a trained attorney you learned that in

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Speaker 2: law school, you turn situations around and you can have

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Speaker 2: intellectual conversations with people. I'm not an intellectual on the

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Speaker 2: level of David Breadnoy, you know, would I ever try

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Speaker 2: to be? Okay? When I first met David Brudnoy in

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Speaker 2: the late nineteen sixties, I knew that he was head

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Speaker 2: and shoulders about me as an intellectual. But David was

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Speaker 2: a friend. I can't call him a mentor because we

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Speaker 2: were contemporaries in many respects. But I learned a lot

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Speaker 2: from David Brudnoy, and I don't appreciate the insult, the

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Speaker 2: underhanded intsult. If you don't like my show, feel free

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Speaker 2: to tell me you don't like my show. I'm curious

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Speaker 2: to understand why you continue to listen.

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Speaker 9: Well, I meant to say, when I started out, I

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Speaker 9: used to listen regularly, But now I listened to some

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Speaker 9: of your callers spouting their ignorance, and I listened to

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Speaker 9: you facilitating that, and so I appreciate the call and

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Speaker 9: I'm just deeply sorry that the country is in the

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Speaker 9: state for the country looks at him and thinks he's

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Speaker 9: a great guy. So thanks Dan.

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Speaker 2: Well again, it's you're an open minded liberal. I guess

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Speaker 2: who doesn't understand that other people can look at the

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Speaker 2: same situation, uh and come to a different conclusion. One

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Speaker 2: of the things I learned a long time ago was

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Speaker 2: that there are Red Sox fans and there are Yankee fans.

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Speaker 2: There are Republicans, and there are Democrats, and Red Sox

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Speaker 2: fans know just as much about baseball as Yankee fans

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Speaker 2: and vice versa. And there you know again, if you're

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Speaker 2: that closed minded and you cannot understand how anyone can

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Speaker 2: can look at forty percent of the country and obviously

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Speaker 2: you're you're repulsed by them, I don't think you much

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Speaker 2: of an America, because what this show is all about

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Speaker 2: is giving everybody an opportunity to express themselves when they

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Speaker 2: go overboard, even crazy rightings or crazy lefties called him

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Speaker 2: to task. And if you listen to the show more often,

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Speaker 2: you'd you'd understand that. But I appreciate your call. Thanks

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Speaker 2: very thanks you, good night, We'll be back. It's the

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Speaker 2: eleven o'clock News here on Nightside, feel free. The only

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Speaker 2: line that's open is six one, seven, two, five, four,

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Speaker 2: ten thirty, and I'm happy it's open. Coming back on nightside,