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Speaker 1: Michael, I love you a lot.

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Speaker 2: I've followed you to KOA, but what they're doing with

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Speaker 2: khow is a letdown. I can always tune into James T.

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Speaker 2: Harris on sister station KFYI in Phoenix and KNST, which

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Speaker 2: I usually do, just not a Ryan shuling fan. I tried,

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Speaker 2: I really tried. Not as good as Brownie.

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Speaker 3: Say something, mister Redbeard. I like shoestrings. He's pretty good.

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Speaker 4: I like you too, Yeah, but I never know what

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Speaker 4: to say when people you.

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Speaker 1: Know like I don't.

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Speaker 4: That is your opinion, man, right, everybody you know I

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Speaker 4: think I may be wrong about this. You can correct

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Speaker 4: me if I'm wrong, which I know you'd love to do.

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Speaker 4: I don't think everybody likes me.

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Speaker 3: I'd say the percentage of people that like you are

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Speaker 3: is much as smaller than the percentage of people that

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Speaker 3: dislike you. You're truly included.

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, but that's my point. You're jaded. You're just

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Speaker 4: with the with the glow of how good I am,

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Speaker 4: you just feel inferior, and so you just sit back

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Speaker 4: there kind of like with your head down, like I

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Speaker 4: just I'm not worthy. I can't I can't look up

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Speaker 4: and see the wonderfulness that is that is me.

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Speaker 3: Don't worry. I can see the ego, really can Did

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Speaker 3: you see.

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Speaker 4: Me bump into the doors I was training to get

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Speaker 4: out earlier?

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Speaker 3: You know how big is this? I know, eight ten

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Speaker 3: feet you're encompassing all of it.

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Speaker 4: Well, then if and then if I told you what

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Speaker 4: one of the bosses told me while we were in

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Speaker 4: the men's room, you'd understand that the ego was even

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Speaker 4: bigger today too.

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Speaker 1: So but you know, all go home. I'll go home

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Speaker 1: after the show.

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Speaker 4: That's like you will, you know when you get done

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Speaker 4: today and then you know the two misses will show up,

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Speaker 4: and you know I'll be right back to where we belong.

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Speaker 3: Give us a dose reality, that's right? Just that?

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Speaker 1: Oh is that what you call a blow to the

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Speaker 3: And gotten pretty good at dodging.

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Speaker 4: So the Trump administration has you know, I talked about

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Speaker 4: the one hundred days and or the one hundred hours

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Speaker 4: I'm digging, I really can't ascertain or discern or put

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Speaker 4: together any really coherent thoughts, which is not surprising about

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Speaker 4: what the next one hundred hours one hundred days are

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Speaker 4: a tidbit about that the Trump administration. The a Assistant

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Speaker 4: Trump administration is continuing those deportation flights to Venezuela even

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Speaker 4: after the arrest of Maduro. Now, I don't know why

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Speaker 4: this little twit from DHS does that the flights are

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Speaker 4: part of a broader effort to reverse the illegal immigration

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Speaker 4: while supporting stability in Venezuela. Now, the way that statement

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Speaker 4: many of whom are criminals, drugies, or maybe just people

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Speaker 4: who came here for temporary protected status, that sending them

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Speaker 4: you and tell you how you interpreted. The administration says

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Speaker 4: that returning these dirt bags. They don't get me wrong.

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Speaker 4: I want the dirt bags out of the country, and

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Speaker 1: But is that supporting stability in Venezuela. Now?

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Speaker 4: from Caracas and I got introduced to him by someone

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Speaker 4: This DHS Assistant secretary says quoth. The great news for

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Speaker 4: those who are here from Venezuela on temporary protected status is.

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Speaker 1: That they can now go home with hope for their country.

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Speaker 4: But if their drug dealers or criminals hope for what,

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Speaker 4: that there'll be rule of law reestablished and I'll end

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Speaker 4: up in jail anyway. I don't give you again, don't

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Speaker 4: you know they're about five hundred thousand Venezuelans in this country,

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Speaker 4: Temporary protected status for about half a million Venezuelans.

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Speaker 4: Earlier they asked the Sebine. The administration asked the Supreme

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Speaker 4: about little three hundred and fifty thousand Venezuelans. They argued

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Speaker 4: the demise of Maduro, and the deportations could proceed safely,

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Speaker 4: and they have. DHS has increased the number of enforcement actions,

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Speaker 4: nationals described by DHS as dangerous criminals. I'm just perplexed.

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Speaker 1: Again. I'm conflicted.

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Speaker 4: I want them out of this country, but I don't

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Speaker 4: says that, you know, we're in charge. So if we

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Speaker 4: are in charge, why don't we just send them to Yemen?

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Speaker 4: Send them to Iran? Good morning, Michael, Good morning Dragon.

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Speaker 4: Is it too late to say Happy New Year?

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Speaker 1: I think it is, But.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Happy New Year, fellas. It's been a while since

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Speaker 5: I listened. I see her now on Kawa. That's cool,

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Speaker 1: I'll have to check that out.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I've said for years, I don't leave them, I

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Speaker 3: just play them, all right, Well, I.

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Speaker 4: Don't think we can you officially no longer say Happy

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Speaker 4: New Year in the January.

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Speaker 3: I think if you haven't made January, if you haven't

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Speaker 3: you're okay with that.

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Speaker 1: Through when January thirty first?

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Speaker 5: Sure?

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Speaker 3: Why not?

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Speaker 1: I don't well, I don't know. I'm asking you. Don't

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Speaker 3: I'm just asking, well, you can text us three three

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Speaker 4: Word Michael, Michael, Yes, if you. But if you have,

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Speaker 4: if you've already said Happy New Year, that's it. You'll

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Speaker 4: get to do it once no more.

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Speaker 3: That sounds pretty accurate.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I haven't told you New Year, have I?

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Speaker 4: I hate to breathe. The bearer of sad news. The

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Speaker 4: by Congress, created by Congress. Oh yes, Congress right started

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Speaker 4: was another money laundering scheme. The Corporation for Public Broadcasting it.

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Speaker 4: Propaganda arm of the US government, and you paid for it.

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Speaker 4: They voted to dissolve after Congress cut off their funding.

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Speaker 4: So before I give you more details about it, I

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Speaker 4: And sometimes you might follow Chapter eleven as this company has,

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Speaker 1: But not if you get government money. You may not

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Speaker 4: the move was intended to protect the broader public media system.

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Speaker 4: kind of chicken feces, isn't it. So you want to

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Speaker 3: Technically, after epiphany, which is today January sixth, you really

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Speaker 3: don't have to say Happy New Year. That's just an

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Speaker 3: unwritten rule. Have a good one.

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Speaker 4: Some people say on the text line it's that day

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Speaker 4: it's no more.

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Speaker 1: I'm just officially done with it.

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Speaker 3: I still stand behind the statement that if you haven't

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Speaker 3: seen them yet this year, you can say that.

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Speaker 1: But what if I don't see.

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Speaker 4: Somebody until March, Well, then I like your January thirtieth

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Speaker 4: all right? December eighteen, last month last year. I point

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Speaker 4: Rarely, if ever, do you see a search war unsealed

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Speaker 4: In fact, I would say that I was probably guilty

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Speaker 4: Not going to pursue that because of the political damage

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Speaker 1: In Colorado.

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Speaker 4: It may be other programs, not necessarily a program like this,

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Speaker 1: Here's a template, a.

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Speaker 4: Description, if you will, of how Somali fraudsters use this

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Speaker 4: if they're eligible under this Minnesota program to receive those services.

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Speaker 4: Then you pretend to provide the one on one daily

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Speaker 1: The invoices. They're all a fraud, they're a scam.

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Speaker 4: There's not even a mention of something so basic as

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Speaker 2: Now, this's call go all the.

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Speaker 4: Way back to twenty twenty one. That's the first year

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Speaker 4: six million divided by one hundred and sixty thirty eight thousand,

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Speaker 4: five hundred dollars per client that year. Now, fast forward

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Speaker 1: Yes, how many clients they had no renumber.

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Speaker 4: Twenty twenty one, you had twenty eight service providers and

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Speaker 4: you had more than four hundred and fifty providers. You

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Speaker 4: would think there would be a an equal number, There

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Speaker 4: You send their Department of Health Services and invoys for

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Speaker 1: I guess.

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Speaker 4: One client named Rick C in the warrant was a

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Speaker 1: No, nobody showed up. Nobody.

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Speaker 4: Is the name using the warrant initially sent to Health

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Speaker 4: the fraud was described by her. She moved into an

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Speaker 4: Kelly R. On four hundred and forty three days, and

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Speaker 4: they got one hundred and sixty six thousand dollars three

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Speaker 4: Now that's just one provider, and that's just one instant

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Speaker 1: Now, the search warrant.

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Speaker 4: Gigantic money laundering scheme. Now, I couldn't find any indication anywhere,

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Speaker 4: Every defendant charged by Biden between September twenty twenty two

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Speaker 4: know the where am I in my notes?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 4: The feeding The feeding program that started back in twenty

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Speaker 4: How many children can't find any? Can't find any? That

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Speaker 4: an annualized total of six hundred and thirty million dollars

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Speaker 4: if they kept the program going. So in six years,

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Speaker 4: the number of supposedly autistic kids in need of services

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Speaker 4: again ostensibly grew tenfold, at the cost of those services

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Speaker 4: paid for with Medicaid funds increased more than six hundred times.

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Speaker 4: Go back to the affidavit. It says that as of

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Speaker 4: December eighteen, the investigation is determined that most of the

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Speaker 4: autism clinics and the healthcare companies are submitting fraudulent invoices

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Speaker 4: for the services.

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Speaker 1: I've told you, maybe not in this audience, I had.

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Speaker 4: An old professor, political science professor, and his theory was

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Speaker 4: that the government then just called the bureaucracy. Today we

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Speaker 4: would call it the deep state. Becomes so huge, becomes

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Speaker 4: so broad and so entrenched that and I'm not going

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Speaker 4: to try to excuse Tien Walls here at all, but

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Speaker 4: Tim Walls or his secretary of Health and Human Services

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Speaker 4: may not really know what's going on in the field

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Speaker 4: because it's just so broad, so massive. All they see

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Speaker 4: are top line numbers. They never asked the questions, how

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Speaker 4: many kids, let's go visit, Let's do a photo op,

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Speaker 4: let's do a surprise photo op. But one of these

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Speaker 4: autism centers?

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Speaker 1: What better?

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Speaker 4: If you're running for you're running for reelection, what better?

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Speaker 4: And this is very crass, but it's true. What better

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Speaker 4: thing to do then go to an autism center where

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Speaker 4: taxpayers are paying for kids to get treatment with autism,

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Speaker 4: and you knock on the door and there's nobody there,

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Speaker 4: and yet you're paying six hundred times what you pay

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Speaker 4: back in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Questions should be asked.

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Speaker 4: That's also why I think at some point Tim Walls

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Speaker 4: may actually resign as a governor and the Democrat Party

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Speaker 4: this is going to be on them. All these programs

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Speaker 4: use Medicaid funds. And the reason the story is important

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Speaker 4: for people living outside the state of Minnesota is, go

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Speaker 4: look at your paycheck. There's something you look at your paycheck,

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Speaker 4: if you receive a salary, look at what you pay

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Speaker 4: in medicaid funds, in Medicaid taxes. That means in all

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Speaker 4: of the other fifty six states, Minnesota to be in

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Speaker 4: the fifty seventh one.

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Speaker 1: You're paying for this.

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Speaker 4: You're paying these billions of dollars for programs for people

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Speaker 4: that literally do not exist. And I'm not talking about

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Speaker 4: just the patients. I'm talking about the people that administer

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Speaker 4: the program. They're all shell companies. You got a po

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Speaker 4: box at the UPS store and you go there once

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Speaker 4: a week, once a month, and you pick up a

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Speaker 4: check for several hundred thousand or a million dollars. You

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Speaker 4: pocket that and you go home, and he goes on

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Speaker 4: year after year for at least the past five years.

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Speaker 4: Now take that and extrapolate that out to yeh, is

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Speaker 4: it happening in a spread state like Texas or Oklahoma.

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Speaker 4: Could be, but probably not to this extent until we

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Speaker 4: somehow get the federal government out of every single aspect

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Speaker 4: of our lives. This kind of fraud is going to

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Speaker 4: remain pervasive and to a large degree untouched, unprosecuted, because

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Speaker 4: there's just so much that one administration can do in

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Speaker 4: the next three years. And then if we lose, which

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Speaker 4: obviously I hope we don't, that the next administration, hopefully

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Speaker 4: the Republican administration, will continue this kind.

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Speaker 1: Of a fraud.

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Speaker 4: Now, I'm will leave you with the one last thought, Congress,

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Speaker 4: Where's Congress? All I've talked about for the past, the

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Speaker 4: entirety of segment is a governor, a state legislature, bureaucrats

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Speaker 4: in the Centers for Medicaid, Medicaid Services in DC and

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Speaker 4: the Department of Health and Union Services in Minnesota. Where's

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Speaker 4: the United States Congress?

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Speaker 1: To do nothing?

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Speaker 4: Congress is costing you and I billions of dollars. I'd

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Speaker 4: rather have that in my pocket.

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Speaker 1: How about you