1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: Human from the fish filled Midwest lakes to the deep 2 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: woods of the North upland prairies filled with pheasants, to 3 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: the whistling wings of duck ponds. This is Saturday Morning 4 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: Fan Outdoors, your show for hunting and fishing tips, topics 5 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: and conversations. You can also send us a question or 6 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: opinion by emailing us booth at kfean dot com. Here's 7 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: your host, the Fans, Captain Billy Hildegraham. 8 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: Good morning, Fan Outdoors, Eighthfaul. 9 00:00:58,240 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 3: Good morning to you. 10 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: The TV is on here in the studio and I 11 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: see a lot of snow. 12 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 3: I see polar bears and. 13 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: Lots of good stuff. But it's all outdoor stuff. And 14 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 2: that's pretty decent because when it's dark outside. My trip 15 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 2: down here, it was pretty lonely today, not much traffic 16 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: at all. And welcome in the conversation. Mister Bob, Saint Pierre, 17 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 2: the man of the hour, and the orange blazer. 18 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 4: He is hard to miss. That's not true. Come on now, 19 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,559 Speaker 4: orange blazers in the closet today. 20 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 3: It was out yesterday. 21 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 5: I saw pictures. 22 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you you know, you just don't change. It looks good. 23 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 4: Oh boy, let me tell you it's a little snugger 24 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 4: fitting around the telly that once it's working on that 25 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 4: size forty two regular jacket, says is. 26 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 3: More and more aggressive. 27 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I drowned in a forty two man, Is 28 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: that right? 29 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 5: Yeah? 30 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 3: That's uh. 31 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 4: Once upon a time it was the spit like a glove. 32 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 4: Right now it's a O. J. 33 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 3: Simpson's gloves. 34 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: Well, you know you can still squeeze into it, you know, 35 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:22,839 Speaker 2: it's yeah. 36 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 3: I don't have to wear a girdle yet. Yeah. 37 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 4: I wore too many layers on Thursday night for the concert. 38 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 4: Had I had four layers. I was like, good, gosh, 39 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 4: I look like the Michelin man. Oh well, oh well, 40 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 4: at least you're still upright in time. Yeah, that's all 41 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 4: good stuff. It is frustrated. I work out every morning, 42 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 4: six am. I get to the gym, I work out 43 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 4: and then you see a phone over yourself. You're like, yep, 44 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 4: father time is undefeated. Oh heavens well. Other than that, 45 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 4: we're rolling because as and Fest is open and we 46 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 4: had a good first day and yeah, it's a good deal. 47 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 3: All downhill from Mere. 48 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: Looking forward to tomorrow four one pm after it closes. Yeah, 49 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 2: but in the meantime, Today's gonna be great. 50 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, tomorrow will be grea, Tomorrow will be fun. Today 51 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 3: will be fun. 52 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,399 Speaker 2: It reminds me of sports shows too, and I get 53 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: done school and then race down to a sports show 54 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: and stay until the evening. During the week, Yeah, come 55 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: back and do the a job and then go back 56 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: down there. And by the second weekend, oh my goodness. 57 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 3: The second weekend. Yeah, it should be two weekends. 58 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 59 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna lobby hard against us ever doing two 60 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 4: weekends in a row. But yeah, it's we got things rolling. 61 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 5: Thursday night and. 62 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: Bird Dog Parade was as good as usual. 63 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred and forty I think it was one 64 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 4: hundred and forty three dogs forty two breeds, give or 65 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 4: take one thousand or twelve hundred. People gathered to watch it, 66 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 4: so it was a lot of fun. Yeah, it was great. 67 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 3: Any any misbehaving on this. 68 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 4: There were some accidents before the parade. Nothing occurred on 69 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 4: the stage this year. As opposed to the atom bomb, 70 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 4: the Brocco Italiano dropped two years ago, which it brought 71 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 4: me to death's doorstep. I imagine I will never own 72 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 4: a brocco after that. 73 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 3: Captain. 74 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 2: Let me tell you, did you it was there new 75 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 2: breed any new breeds this year? 76 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 5: Oh? 77 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 3: Yes, there and difficult to pronounce. 78 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 4: I'm not Let's just say it's a Spanish pointer. 79 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 3: And I. 80 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 4: Butchered it thirteen times yesterday and I couldn't even tell you. 81 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 4: I can look it up during the break here. But yeah, 82 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 4: it was like a bout and it was a beautiful dog. Yeah, 83 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 4: just yo, I would take thirteen of them. It was 84 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 4: really nice looking dog. 85 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 3: I'd like to see you with thirteen dogs. 86 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I couldn't. I couldn't pronounce it to save 87 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 4: my life. Uh, yeah, there were some. There're some gorgeous 88 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 4: dogs we had. We did have a French bulldog named 89 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 4: lunch Box. Yelp lunch Box, the French bulldog who the 90 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 4: owner claims does hunt. And apparently the French bulldogs surpassed 91 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 4: the Labrador Retriever as the most popular dog breed in 92 00:05:54,839 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 4: America last year, right, which I don't is where you live. No, 93 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:07,559 Speaker 4: this is a case most owned dog. Historically, it's always 94 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,559 Speaker 4: been the lap. The number one breed in America last 95 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 4: year was a French ball talk and I can definitively 96 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 4: say I will never own a French bull talk, but 97 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 4: I would own a whole bunch of other ones, the Gryffon, 98 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 4: the Gordon Setter, English Setter, the French Brittany, American Brittany. 99 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 4: There's just just some beautiful bird dogs out there. And 100 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 4: there were a couple of rescue dogs too. Oh really 101 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 4: the yeah dogs at some mixed breeds. Yeah, quite a variety. 102 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 4: But yeah, it's pretty cool to see. You know, some 103 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 4: pups come in that were rescued from a shelter and 104 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 4: you know, now we're part of somebody's home and you know, 105 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 4: part of their hunting season all fall along. 106 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 2: So the parade was was fabulous, good deal, Yeah, excellent, 107 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: excellent And with people coming into pheasant Fest, there are 108 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: I'm sure there are, but I'm this is a question. 109 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 2: There are plenty of but not. 110 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 3: Really I'm not sure where you're going lead. 111 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: But if people are interested in the new puppy, no 112 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: places to come that people are showing off part of 113 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: clubs and things like that. 114 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, there's I think we have just shy of 115 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 4: four hundred different exhibitors on the floor. 116 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 3: I would estimate. 117 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 4: In the neighborhood of four dozen to five dozen of 118 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 4: them are dog kennels or not the physical kennel but 119 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 4: breeders or dog associations or clubs. So the small Munster 120 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 4: Lander Club, the Large Munster Lander Club, the Vudal Hound Club, 121 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 4: so there's pick a bird dog Club. Again, there was 122 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 4: forty three different breeds in the parade. Almost all of 123 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 4: those breeds have a booth with their breed club or 124 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 4: a cannel on the show floor that yeah, they want 125 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 4: to talk to people about Okay, this is a pointing 126 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 4: breed or this is this this breed. No, no, no, no, no, 127 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 4: we don't allow we don't allow the selling of puppies 128 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 4: on the show floor. 129 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 5: That's just not a good recipe, are But you could. 130 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 4: Certainly buy a pick on somebody's upcoming litter on the 131 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 4: show floor, Like look at the paperwork, and you know 132 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 4: they there are like you know, sires and dams of 133 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 4: breeding that's on the show floor where you can see 134 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 4: the mom and the dad pup and you know, make 135 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 4: some decisions about breeding down the line. 136 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 5: But yeah, you can't buy a puppy at peas and fest. 137 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 4: But you can certainly, you know, pet till your heart's 138 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 4: content meet a lot of different breeds. It's probably the 139 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 4: best place in the world to see different breeds that 140 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 4: you may be only find on the internet. 141 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 2: Well, and I think that that's a it's a wonderful 142 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 2: idea too, to get to see the different breeds and 143 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: actually talk to people about the characteristics, what their tendencies are, 144 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 2: easy to train blockheaded. 145 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 3: Was that about you or was that about a breed? 146 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 3: It depends who you're talking about. 147 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a you know, we have bird Dog Alley 148 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 4: and then there's a bird dog stage, so we have 149 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 4: our friends from Parina there. There's seminars every half hour 150 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 4: with a different dog trainer, Mike Weben, Tina Dock and. 151 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 3: The Smiths Veterinarian. 152 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 4: So if you have any appetite to learn about dogs. 153 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 4: Next to the Westminster Dog Show, this is the biggest 154 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 4: dog show in America, right in the country. 155 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 3: Well, I think I saw advertise with Purina. 156 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 4: The lead veterinarian is going to be yep, doctor ruth 157 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 4: Anne Lobos as well as doctor Seth Binem who has 158 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 4: a He writes for Meat Eater and writes for us, 159 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 4: so does doctor ruth Anne. So yeah, both of their 160 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 4: lead veterinarians are presenting on the stage. 161 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 5: They're on the show floor the entire time. 162 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 3: They're a wealth of knowledge for sure. 163 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: Well, and you know that's I think that's a great 164 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 2: idea to go down and talk about your dog food 165 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 2: and things like that, because there's so many commercials on 166 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 2: television and now I'm noticing when that when I do 167 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 2: see them, I don't pay much attention to them. 168 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 3: I feed Purina and. 169 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 2: You do too, and because well, we're better than We're 170 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 2: better than Puriana, We're better than you know, our ingredients 171 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 2: are whatever. 172 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 3: Well, there's definitely a movement. 173 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 4: I mean it's that word anthropomorphizing, where we as human 174 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 4: beings put on emotions and aspects of treating animals like 175 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 4: human beings. And there's this strain of dog foods that 176 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 4: are you know, you reach into the frigerator and it 177 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 4: looks like leftovers from you know, your family's meal, and 178 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 4: then you put it in your dog and that probably 179 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 4: makes you feel real good. But you know, I've been 180 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 4: to the Purina facility in Saint Louis where they have 181 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 4: a team of the world's best scientists and nutritionists that 182 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 4: build their dog food for canines. Because they're not the 183 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 4: same as people. They're digestive systems, different, everything about them. 184 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 4: I mean, they're different species. So yeah, Parina pro Plan 185 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 4: but there are a whole bunch of other dog foods 186 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 4: that are good, and they're out there on the show 187 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 4: floor as well. But Parna, you know they unlike hardly 188 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 4: any other company Federal Ammunitions the one that you know 189 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 4: that comes to mind, but two companies that support conservation 190 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 4: better than others. 191 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:26,599 Speaker 2: It's a quick story because we have to go to 192 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 2: break in a number of years ago, my brother in law, 193 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: who has now passed away, we were at the at 194 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 2: my house in the basement. Well, they made these little 195 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:41,599 Speaker 2: dog trees that look like hot dogs, and there was 196 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 2: a bowl of them for the dogs in the basement 197 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 2: where we were sitting and just chatting. He was munched 198 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 2: down before we told him well. And then I was 199 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 2: informed by my parents that the milk bowls that were 200 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 2: around I carried those as a youngster in my pocket 201 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 2: and I those were a snack. 202 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 3: So I can one up you. 203 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 4: I know we gotta go to break, but I gotta 204 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 4: tell you this that I can what up you. My 205 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 4: grandpa Bob Saint Pierre, So my dad, my grandpa, and 206 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 4: I all are Bob Saint Pierre, but we have different 207 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 4: middle names. Anyway, my grandpa was in town. It's stay 208 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 4: are our house to go gear hunting. And one morning 209 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 4: he comes out of the bathroom, or maybe it was 210 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 4: the afternoon, comes out of the bathroom. He's like, yeah, 211 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 4: that trail mix in the bathroom. It has gone stale, 212 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 4: trail mixed, Grandpa, I don't think we have trail mix 213 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 4: in the bathroom. And on the toilet on the back 214 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 4: there's a pot of polpoury and my grandpa, I thought 215 00:13:55,200 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 4: it was trail mix stale. It wasn't stale, Grandpa wasn't stale. 216 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 4: Probably shouldn't need what you find in the bathroom, grandpa. 217 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 3: So yeah, that's he wasn't a upers. So well on 218 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 3: that note, I think it's a good note. 219 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: We should probably take a pause. Coming up or right 220 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 2: after the break is mister Paul Hartman will talk to 221 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 2: him about the George's Minnesota Musky Expo, which is right around. 222 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 2: It is show season, isn't it it is? Because that's 223 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 2: it's spring, Yeah, almost coming all thirteen degrees outside, but 224 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 2: it's coming. Yeah. But be careful too, because I got 225 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: word that there the accesses are in the shape right 226 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: now in some places, so be sure you know where 227 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: you're going, because you don't want your house or your truck, 228 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 2: of which i've seen pictures of both sinking. 229 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 3: We'll be right back after this. 230 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 2: Twenty minutes after the hour of six am. 231 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 3: He if Paul Hartman is out in. 232 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 2: The listening world, you better give us a call. 233 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 3: Buddy. 234 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 2: That's all I can say. Because we've been trying to 235 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: get a hold of you. We can't, so I'll just 236 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 2: leave it that way. 237 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 4: Somebody, so there was a gentleman came specifically to Phesiveest 238 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 4: to see you yesterday. 239 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 3: Oh that's scary. 240 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 2: That's a scury, buddy, you're on rap I. 241 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 4: Came to visit, so he may he may return this 242 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 4: afternoon to see Our afternoon broadcast will be live on 243 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 4: the show floor this afternoon after the Gophers. 244 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 3: Basketball game gets right around one o'clock. 245 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 4: Around one o'clock one to three, habitat help Room is 246 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 4: where we'll be broadcasting live the Captain Billy and John 247 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 4: Deere tractors. It's like, all we need is bush light. 248 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 3: I'll see if I can arrange that for you. 249 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: There's a country song with right driving is I can't 250 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 2: remember what was. Basically he's driving his tractor and all 251 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 2: the people behind him are. 252 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 4: Honking, and oh I think that's a Craig Morgan song. 253 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 3: I don't know, but it's just a yeah. 254 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 4: That's an International Harvesters. Yeah, that's Craig Morgan. 255 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 5: I don't know. 256 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 4: I'm pretty proud of myself for getting a country music song, right, yeah, 257 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 4: I don't know. 258 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 3: What like, I've been hanging out with you too long, 259 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 3: Holy macro we haven't driven anywhere for a while. 260 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: But that's you know, if you get into my car, 261 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 2: my truck, I know you control the dials and every 262 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 2: all the buttons are set on country. 263 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 3: I'm well aware. 264 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 2: I'm well aware, but it's yeah, it's just what I 265 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: enjoy and it's on. Uh yeah, that's just the way 266 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: it is. What can I say? I gotta turn this 267 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: TV off? 268 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 3: It's very keep am I boring you? 269 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 2: It's very distracting. 270 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 4: So are you in the market for anything for your 271 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 4: hunting escapades in the future? 272 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 3: You look at when you. 273 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 4: Walk the show floor at Phasantfest, is there anything that 274 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 4: might catch your eye? 275 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 3: Boots? 276 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 2: Oh, leather boots perhaps, Okay, I am. I have a 277 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 2: number of pairs of I have three or four pair 278 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 2: of dan or Prong horns. 279 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 3: Little that's the boot I took a header in. 280 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 4: Way when you said done the ice. 281 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but yeah, they they always seem to let 282 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 2: go right in one place on the side of the 283 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 2: foot one foot, So you might need. 284 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 5: A new brand of boots. I don't know. 285 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 3: There's a lot of boot brands on the show. 286 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 4: Flo Our official boot is Irish Center and we have, uh, 287 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 4: we have some secretive news coming. 288 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 6: Out with. 289 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 4: I'm wearing some secrets, but I'm not allowed to talk 290 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 4: about secrets. 291 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 2: Okay, you're just like these guys, said fish am I 292 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 2: just like them. They Oh, you should have been here yesterday. 293 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 2: It's just killing but I can't tell you what it is. 294 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 3: But it's good. 295 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 2: It's been catching every every cast, but I can't tell you. Okay, 296 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 2: thank you. 297 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 3: Starts swimming. 298 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 2: I've never had to do that with fishing. But it 299 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: won't be too long. I did I mentioned before a 300 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 2: little before we went to break. I think that, uh, 301 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 2: some of the accesses are actually deteriorating with the warm 302 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 2: weather that we had. And I had to go to 303 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 2: the doctor for just to check up this last week 304 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 2: and talked with him and they he and about ten 305 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 2: friends were planning to go to Fort Peck to go 306 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: out and fish salmon. 307 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 3: For Montana. 308 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, is it salmon or is it lake lake? 309 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 3: It's a lake trout. 310 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 4: Look at me correcting you on fishing feeling all right, 311 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, go ahead with your story. 312 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 3: I forgot you were at the doctor for it was. Yeah, 313 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 3: I wasn't, and he was. We were. 314 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 2: We always talk fishing, he and I do. But it's 315 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: it's great fun anyway. He's he's an avid fisherman, goes 316 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 2: a few times ice fishing a year, and they were 317 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 2: planning this big trip out to Fort Pack. Usually go 318 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 2: northwest angle and take snow wheels out and stay on 319 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 2: a resort and things like that. 320 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 3: This year it was going to be different. So they 321 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 3: big trip. 322 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 2: They had Airbnb, a big home, plan to block off 323 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 2: the lake, and guides already hired and stuff. But usually 324 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 2: their ice gets about seven inches, he was telling me. 325 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 2: But they had a week of fifty degrees. The ice 326 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 2: is gone as deteriorated a bit. So he's thinking, I 327 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 2: don't know if that's a real good plan. Seven inches 328 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 2: isn't a lot anyway. The place of that fourth pack 329 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 2: is one hundred and some miles long, and so it 330 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 2: got a little bit later and he's not, no, I'm 331 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: done guys, I'm not this is not for me. 332 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 3: I'm not going to die out ice fishing and go 333 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 3: through the ice. 334 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 2: Well then soon as he said that, if you're not going, 335 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 2: I'm not going, well, then a couple of die hards. 336 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 2: We're going anyway, no matter what we're going anyway. I 337 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 2: got this supposed to be next week, I believe. Well, 338 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 2: they got a call that the ice is breaking up 339 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 2: along the shore out there and they can't get mechanized 340 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 2: four wheelers or snowmobiles. 341 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:12,959 Speaker 5: The UV ice. 342 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 2: Well, seven inches ain't a whole bunch in my world, 343 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 2: I know, not to begin with. Well you also then 344 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 2: take you can't get anything on it in the length 345 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 2: of this thing with guides hired and stuff, you're just 346 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 2: going to walk. And he thought this is not smart, 347 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 2: and he said, no, I'm definitely out. We'll lose money 348 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 2: on the house. I don't need that. So that was okay, 349 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 2: And all of a sudden they had a zoom meeting 350 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:48,239 Speaker 2: with a group. Nobody's going. The guides they had to 351 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 2: contact them and nice pretty iffy could plan the house. 352 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 2: They had to cancel the house. They lost some money 353 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 2: on that, but he said it's better than dying out. 354 00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 3: There, you think. 355 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 2: So, they're kind of the same deal here. When we 356 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 2: talked about it before with Tommy and some other guests, 357 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 2: that the the the AsSalt coming off vehicles that come 358 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: down on the lake coupled with the sun that we've had. Yeah, 359 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 2: and they say it's cold today, but it ain't making 360 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: a lot of ice, so be very careful. 361 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 3: Well, it was probably a week ago. 362 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 4: For the first time in a decade, the Apostle Islands 363 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 4: ice caves opened up on Lake Superior and there are 364 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 4: hundreds of people going out there. And I don't know 365 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 4: what was the day we had all the wind. 366 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 3: Was it Tuesday? Yeah, one of those. 367 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 4: It took about, you know, half a night, and Lake 368 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 4: Spear is completely open again, and they don't have anybody 369 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 4: going out to those ice caves anymore because every there's 370 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 4: not a lick of ice for people to walk on. Yeah, yeah, 371 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 4: can you that that would have been disconcend They were 372 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 4: planning to have that open for a while. I'll be 373 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 4: neat to see, but boy, Lake Superior is just a beast. 374 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 2: I just can't imagine being stuck on an ice floe 375 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:15,719 Speaker 2: on Superior and imagine it's breaking up, and it's breaking 376 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 2: up around you and you're hoping to hope that you 377 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 2: got something to stand on. 378 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've swammed in Lake Superior in July. Can you 379 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 4: imagine being forced to swim? No, no, thank you. 380 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 3: The only time I. 381 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 2: Can compare being in cold water is when I was 382 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 2: I've told the story why we took a We wanted 383 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 2: to be the. 384 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 3: First water skiing. 385 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 2: Okay, put to put the boat in on the beach April. 386 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 2: It was Mother's Day. 387 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 3: Whenever that is you know when that is fishing opener, 388 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 3: it's me. 389 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 2: Well, it was me. It was before because the lake 390 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: was still partially froze. The upper lake was froze, and 391 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 2: then the lower lake. We put it in the beach, 392 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 2: which is no more. I got out there and wol 393 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 2: hilled brand. He was pretty pretty cocky because I could 394 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 2: ski pretty well, and uh put that slallom ski. 395 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 3: Don took off bone drive. 396 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 2: My legs are wet a little bit, cut back and forth, 397 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 2: ski slipped out from under me, hit the water and 398 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 2: it just I honestly good. It's like somebody punches. 399 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 3: In the gun. Breath away. Oh die goodness. 400 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 2: My voice went up about four or five ocks. Unbelievable 401 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 2: how cold it was that's been a lot a lot 402 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 2: of years, and it's still not a good plan. Only 403 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 2: you don't want to do that, No, don't want to 404 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 2: do that. The other thing would be imagine your truck 405 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 2: going down and crawling out and having to watch it. 406 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 3: Sink out of sight. 407 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 7: Yeah. 408 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 3: I watched my cell phone sink out of sight one time. 409 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 4: Spinning around and around is like killing that laugh right 410 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 4: deep deep deep, Zippy doll. 411 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 3: It's a metronome, Is that what it is? Boom boom boom. 412 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: Zippy came in that day and later in the evening 413 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 2: or in the afternoons. 414 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 3: Did you try to call me this last I tried 415 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 3: to answer, but all I got. 416 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 5: Was bull blue. 417 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 2: Rascal. Uh. But anyway, Yeah, it was fun at all, 418 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 2: but it's it's all good stuff. And but anyway, the 419 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 2: whole crux of the thing was be careful. 420 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 3: If you're going to wander out in the. 421 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 2: Ice, especially south of the city's cities in south, be 422 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 2: very careful. Tackle was telling me when I talked to 423 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 2: him yesterday that, uh, somebody down in I'm sure Fairmont, Fairwell, 424 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 2: and they lost their wheelhouse because it's sane and other 425 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 2: people when they leave their houses out and they still 426 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 2: can for a few more days, I believe, when that's right. 427 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 5: So they got to be off by March first, I believe. 428 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 4: So yeah, we're obviously not going to get Paul Hartman 429 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 4: from Minnesota Muski Expo, but well we will mention that 430 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 4: it's coming out, Yeah, February twenty seven to twenty eighth 431 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:25,719 Speaker 4: and March first, So that's next weekend Canterbury Park and Shackapee. 432 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 4: And I think that's a brand new location for them. 433 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 3: It is. I think they were there last year, but 434 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 3: I'm not sure. 435 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 5: I don't. 436 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 4: It seems they've moved around a couple Weren't they in 437 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 4: the Coliseum last year and then maybe Hamlin. 438 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,239 Speaker 3: Maybe the year before that. 439 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 4: Maybe, But well, they're at the Canterbury Park Expo Center 440 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 4: and Shack b next weekend next. 441 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 2: Weekend Friday one to seven thirty pm, Saturday ten to 442 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 2: six thirty Sunday ten to ten am until four pm 443 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 2: next weekend. 444 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you're just thinking about muskies, are you 445 00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 3: thinking about muskies? 446 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 5: I can't. 447 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 2: I catched him from time to time, and I'm just 448 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 2: there's no muskies in soccer, are they? 449 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 3: No? Thank goodness? 450 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 5: No. 451 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 3: Mintaka and. 452 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 2: Droyed me a couple of times fishing. Yes, because they 453 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 2: show up on a weed line. Yeah, there's no unter 454 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 2: fish there. 455 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 5: Leave. 456 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 2: Derek Cott won a giant on a sandbar and not 457 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 2: a spinner bait. We got it, we landed it and 458 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 2: it was the length of the rod locker, however long 459 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 2: that was. But it was a giant and he wanted 460 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 2: to take a picture. Well, the head, the fisher's head 461 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 2: just flopped a little bit that got over the side. 462 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 2: He's definitely trying to save it for a photo. It 463 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 2: slid back into the lake and he looked at me 464 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 2: well wide eyed and said, you saw him. 465 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 5: You saw him, didn't you? 466 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 3: That was Yeah, I did see him. It was big. Yeah, 467 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 3: they're cool fish. Yeah, very cool, very very cool. 468 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 2: Well, maybe we should take that pause and we will 469 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 2: come back right after this to mister Stan H. 470 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 3: Taquila. 471 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 5: Is he back in town or yes? I believe Okay, where. 472 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 3: In the world is Stan Takeilla. It's hard to keep trapping. 473 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 2: Definitely that we will be right back with Stan nature 474 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,239 Speaker 2: smart dot com check that out after this. 475 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 7: Welcome back to Fan Outdoors, joined now by author, naturalist 476 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 7: and photographer Stan Tequila. Whether it's in Minnesota, Alaska, or Africa. 477 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 7: He's always in search of all things wild and natural. 478 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 5: He may even know more about animals than they do themselves. 479 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 3: And you thought the cat knew the outdoors. 480 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 7: Here's fan favorite Stan Tequila on fan outdoors. 481 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 4: Stand. 482 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 2: You got back in Minnesota just in time for some 483 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 2: more cold weather, my friend. 484 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 5: And the snow and the snow. 485 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yeah, I wouldn't want you to miss that. 486 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 3: I mean, doc got it. 487 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I just spent I'm doing really good. I 488 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 5: just had about four weeks out in Yellowstone with a 489 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 5: couple of photo tours, so two different groups of photo 490 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 5: photo groups. And speaking of lack of snow, Yellowstone had 491 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 5: just disappointingly very little snow and the temperatures were ridiculously warm. 492 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 5: So and all that means is that when the winters 493 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 5: are not difficult, the animals are not like pushed down 494 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 5: the mountains into the valleys where the roads are at. 495 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 5: And then you know, tours roads, which gives them access, 496 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 5: you know, gives us access to them. And so it's 497 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 5: kind of a yeah, kind of an interesting Well, it's 498 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 5: funny how how weather dependent it really truly is too. 499 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 2: Well good for the animals, probably unless it gets too. 500 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 5: Dry excellent, excellent for the animals, no problems for them 501 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 5: getting along. The bison normally have to push through, you know, 502 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 5: three four feet of snow and or you get down 503 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 5: to the grass to feed and they just they just 504 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 5: go to areas where the sun has melted off everything 505 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 5: just feed there. So it's so easy. 506 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 2: Well, are there the predators that are counting on them 507 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 2: as there's still plenty of food available if they can 508 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 2: get after cripples and things like that. 509 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, because there's still uh, you know, winter kills. As 510 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 5: far as the sick, the injured, the elderly, that type 511 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 5: of thing. We did have a situation one day. It's 512 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 5: in an area called Fountain Flats. It's a big, large, 513 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 5: large opening area between like two mountains and the Fountain 514 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 5: Geothermal area is located nearby, and the bison like to 515 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 5: hang out there because it does keep the the ground 516 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 5: keeps the snow melted a little bit and they can 517 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 5: find good food. And there was a female cow that 518 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 5: was bison that was very badly injured, so it when 519 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 5: it walked it, I mean it couldn't use its front 520 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 5: right leg hardly at all. And about four wolves made 521 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 5: it into the valley and went over and they find 522 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 5: these warm areas on the ground where the geothermal areas 523 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 5: melted off all the snow. They lay there because you know, 524 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 5: they can absorb the heat straight in like that, and 525 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 5: they they're laying there, and about a thousand yards away 526 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 5: was this bison were And we sat there all day 527 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 5: waiting hopefully something would happen. And slowly the bison started 528 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 5: moving and kept moving and kept moving and moving away, 529 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 5: and the wolves didn't even raised their head, they never 530 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 5: even looked up or anything. And by the time the 531 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 5: bison were long gone, the wolves finally got up and 532 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 5: looked around, like what's going on, you know, And that 533 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 5: was that. So it was a day we spent just 534 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 5: sitting and waiting and waiting, waiting. 535 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 2: H I watched a video I can't remember always on 536 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 2: turkey hunting this last week, and it was kind of 537 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 2: doing the same thing. These this guy's were guy was 538 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 2: waiting for these tom turkeys to walk by, and they 539 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 2: got to a patrick greenery and they just plunked down. 540 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 2: They just settled in and you could hardly see them 541 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 2: anymore except for their head, but they just sat there 542 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 2: and sat there and sat there, safe as a snug, 543 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 2: as a bug in a rug because it just yea 544 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, they get up or walk a 545 00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 2: little bit, they dropped back down and it was Yeah, 546 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 2: I thought it was kind of interesting. 547 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 3: I've never seen him really do that. 548 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 5: But they want to be too distracted. Yeah, I don't 549 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 5: want to be too distracted. But I'm watching the Great 550 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 5: horn Owl live cam that I've got set up, and 551 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 5: the mom the dad just came in with a vole 552 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 5: and fed the mom mom ate the bowl and then 553 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 5: just she just left the nest and you can see 554 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 5: the three eggs sitting there. And it's funny because the 555 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 5: eggs are sitting there in one little open area with 556 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 5: snow all around. 557 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 2: It, completely ringing it. I would know how long she'll 558 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 2: be gone before they are concerned about it and they 559 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 2: come back and sit on the eggs again. 560 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 5: Well that's that's really an interesting question. And that's something 561 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 5: that we're working on right now, is we're documenting all 562 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 5: of the movement of the female. So she's usually gone 563 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 5: for less than ten minutes, so she'll go out stretcher 564 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 5: wings and then come back to the nest and then 565 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 5: sit back down on the eggs. So meanwhile, what I'm 566 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 5: doing is in the chat notes on. So for people 567 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 5: who don't know, I've got a I'm live streaming on 568 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 5: YouTube a great horn owl nest. And so what I'm 569 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 5: doing is in the chat, I'm putting in the time 570 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,919 Speaker 5: stamps for what happened. So at six thirty seven, Mom 571 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 5: started hooting. At six thirty seven, also, the male came 572 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 5: in with a vole, and then at six forty one 573 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 5: she left. So then that's where we're at right now, 574 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 5: waiting for her to come back. So it's kind of cool. 575 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 5: It's go ahead, no. 576 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 3: Go ahead? Are right? 577 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 2: Is there a size difference between the male and the female. 578 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 5: In this case, there's definitely one. There's definitely a noticeable 579 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 5: difference between the two of them. Female is larger. Uh, 580 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 5: you know in the past, you know when I say past, 581 00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 5: I meet oh and she's back. 582 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 4: So there you go, three minutes play by play fan 583 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 4: out doors kind of like me. 584 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 5: I got to see this too. Yeah, you gotta see 585 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 5: this though, I mean, you just get so wrapped up 586 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 5: in their lives. 587 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 3: It's really impressive to see. 588 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 4: But a moment ago you said that I can't I'm 589 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:29,319 Speaker 4: taking us here. Owl left to defecate. But that's not 590 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 4: quite that's not a normal thing with an owl. They don't, 591 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:39,760 Speaker 4: don't they regurgitate their Well, tell me how that happens 592 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 4: that because I didn't think that owls defecate the same 593 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 4: way other animals do. 594 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 5: I love that question, do you? 595 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 4: Because I was a little worried asking that Captain's giving 596 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:58,919 Speaker 4: me a strange strange like geez bob, what because I 597 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 4: thought that they urgitated there the waste through their mouths, not. 598 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 3: Through the normal location. 599 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 5: Well, that is I'm so glad you said that, because I, uh, 600 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 5: that never occurred to me that somebody would think that, 601 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 5: because I'm sorry, yeah, to all the listeners, I'm sorry, no, no, 602 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 5: I'm glad you said it, because again, it is I 603 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 5: didn't I never even thought that might be something somebody 604 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 5: would think about, because of course they defecate, they have 605 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 5: to and when they so, So what happens is is, uh, 606 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 5: these owls are eating mice, voles, shrews, you know, sometimes chipmunks, 607 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 5: whatever it is, and they swallow them whole. They have 608 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 5: no teeth and so, and they don't later on, when 609 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 5: the babies are born, they'll tear up the prey and 610 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 5: they'll feed the baby smaller pieces. But the adults will 611 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 5: just swallow down an entire uh you know, vole or 612 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 5: mouse or whatever, maybe in one gulp. Uh, it gets 613 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 5: into the prof and triculous. This is also called the gizzard. 614 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 5: Like I don't know if were you one of those 615 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 5: people who when you were a kid, your parents made 616 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 5: you eat the gizzard, I clean them up. 617 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 618 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:18,240 Speaker 5: Yeah. So this is a stomach. It's a muscular stomach 619 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 5: with a uh like a keratin type lining inside of 620 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 5: it in order to help break up the things that 621 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 5: they can't because they don't they're not chewing right. Well, 622 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 5: then in there all of the juices, basically everything is 623 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 5: digestible gets passed through the stomach. Then and then in 624 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 5: the stomach it goes into the system of the of 625 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 5: the bird. The parts that are not so think of 626 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 5: it as a separation. Uh, the parts that are not 627 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 5: digestible come back up and out through the mouth and 628 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 5: the rest of it goes through the digestive system and 629 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 5: then out what's called the cloacas because birds, birds only 630 00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 5: have one way of eliminating waste and uh, and it 631 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 5: comes out as in in feces. So also, you know, 632 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 5: and this is an interesting thing too with all birds. 633 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 5: They also urinate, but the all of the water within 634 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 5: the urine is absorbed back into the body. They're highly 635 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 5: highly efficient that way, they're not having to drink all 636 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 5: the time. And then what comes out is trying to 637 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 5: try to picture in your mind right now, a bird 638 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 5: dropping like on your car. You usually got that, you know, 639 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 5: down on that brown or black spot. But then there's 640 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,879 Speaker 5: always that white yeah, you know, the white liquidity part. 641 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 5: The white liquidity part is the yeah, it's urates. Urates 642 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 5: are highly concentrated urine that uh, you know, comes that 643 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 5: passes right along with it. So when they avoid, they 644 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 5: only avoid, uh you know, with both with feces and 645 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,919 Speaker 5: urine together out of the same spot, and it comes 646 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 5: out that way, in these highly concentrated ways. They think 647 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 5: of these guys as very very efficient. And so then 648 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 5: what comes back up through the mouth, what they regurgitate 649 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 5: is the undigestible fur, the undigestible bones and teeth. That's it. 650 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 4: So I was I wasn't completely wrong, but I wasn't 651 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 4: completely right. 652 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 5: But it never Yeah, but it never occurred to me 653 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 5: that somebody would think that it's the that they would 654 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 5: be so unique that they only do this right. It 655 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 5: never occurred to me that somebody, somebody might think that, 656 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 5: which is great because you know, when you're when you 657 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 5: know a topic too well, then you you make a 658 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 5: lot of assumptions, you know, And so I assumed everybody 659 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 5: would just think, oh, well, that just happens. And by 660 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 5: the way, this regurgitation of the fur, the bones and 661 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 5: the teeth, uh, king kingfishers do it, hawks do it, 662 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 5: many many species of birds do this. It's just that 663 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 5: the owls have a well formed pellet that they regurgitate 664 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 5: back up, not you know, whereas the other ones, like 665 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 5: kingfishers or hawks. It's it's more it's more liquid and 666 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 5: it breaks apart, and we don't usually find those. 667 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 4: So that was the power trip question of the Saturday morning. 668 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 4: A nation of fan out doors back to you, Captain. 669 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:24,800 Speaker 2: Well, they've got to be pretty good because they always 670 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 2: aim for my windshield, hit it right about where I sit. 671 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 5: Yes, oh yes, and the thing is and you'll all. 672 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 2: Then when you turn the windshield wipe around trying to 673 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 2: wipe it off, it doesn't wipe it just smears. 674 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,280 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, so goes nature. 675 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 2: Well, there's they must do a they must whatever it 676 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 2: is a lot, because it sure seems to whenever they're flying. 677 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 2: You could not whenever, but oftentimes when they're flying, like 678 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 2: over the lake and you. 679 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 3: Have to watch that, they let her fly. 680 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, so they That's what I was gonna say next, 681 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 5: is that oftentimes when you see a bird perched and 682 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 5: just before it takes off, it will it will you know, void, 683 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 5: it'll poop and just before it takes off, and everybody 684 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 5: is always you know, kind of said, well, it's lightning's 685 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 5: load before taking off. Well maybe so, but I highly 686 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 5: doubt it's sitting there thinking, all right, I'm taking off, 687 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 5: so I got a bear lighten up. 688 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 4: You know. 689 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 5: It's just generally something where it does it before it 690 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 5: takes off, but it is true it doesn't before it 691 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 5: takes off. And then they also do it in flight. 692 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 5: They also and now some species of birds in their 693 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 5: nest will will avoid in their nest. Also in this 694 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 5: case with the owls, they don't. And you'll even notice 695 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 5: later on when these young hatch, you'll see that as 696 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 5: they as they you know, grow, the young will go 697 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 5: to the edge of the nest and put their butts 698 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,280 Speaker 5: up in the air, and you know, and they'll shoot 699 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 5: out over the nest and that way it keeps the 700 00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 5: nest clean. 701 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 3: So since I brought us down this road, I'm gonna 702 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 3: get us out of it. 703 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 4: So I'm thinking about boboy quail in the winter, well 704 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 4: in the evening, and to stay warm, a covey of 705 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:16,320 Speaker 4: quail will come back together huddle up butts to butts 706 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:21,439 Speaker 4: in a circle for you know, for gathering warmth through 707 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:21,839 Speaker 4: the night. 708 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 5: What other birds use their. 709 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 4: Like family or colony to interact like that for you know, 710 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 4: obviously there's some protection in numbers, but also just keeping 711 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,800 Speaker 4: warmth through the night or through the winter. 712 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 5: A lot of birds do this. They'll huddle together to yes, 713 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 5: mostly birds who are in cavities. So for example, bluebirds 714 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 5: will do this. They'll find a cavity, two, three, four 715 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 5: birds will all get into the cavity and kind of 716 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 5: gym in there, and collectively their body heat will help 717 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 5: keep them warm. It will also raise the temperature within 718 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:02,240 Speaker 5: that cavity up quite a few trees to help them overall, 719 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 5: you know, stay warm. Chickenis not hatches, and some species 720 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,840 Speaker 5: like chicken's will do it in mixed flocks. They'll do 721 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 5: it with you know, more than the other other than 722 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 5: just the other chickenis. They'll do it with other species too, 723 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 5: so this is a fairly common thing. Of course, penguins 724 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 5: do this, you know, when they're have a big storm, 725 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 5: they'll all huddle up together and all you know, sit 726 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 5: side by side. 727 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 7: Uh. 728 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 5: So there's this is a common behavior throughout the bird world. 729 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 5: Did you know that about chickene's No, I didn't know that. 730 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 5: So are chickenis in cavities doing this? Yes? Yeah, chicken's 731 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 5: nest in cavities. 732 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 8: Uh. 733 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 5: So chickene's will do one of two things. They'll either 734 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 5: take over an existing cavity, uh you know, maybe a 735 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,239 Speaker 5: natural cavity in a tree or an old woodpecker, or 736 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 5: they will create their own by uh excavating it out 737 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 5: of soft wood. 738 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 3: Interesting, do they roost in a cavity. 739 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,359 Speaker 5: To Yes, they roost and cavities at night. So this 740 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 5: was something that I did a study number of years ago, 741 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 5: back when I was at the Nature Center and the 742 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 5: we have all these bluebird boxes. At the time, I 743 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 5: had eighty some bluebird boxes and in the wintertime, typically 744 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,360 Speaker 5: what somebody with a bluebird trail would do would would 745 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 5: to close the boxes or excuse me, open the boxes 746 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:29,400 Speaker 5: for the wintertime so that the boxes cannot be used 747 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 5: by mice because the mice will find these, you know, 748 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,879 Speaker 5: vacant boxes over wintertime, fill them up with fluffing down 749 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 5: and plant material and things like that, and nest in there. 750 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 5: And the problem with that is that mice urinate right 751 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 5: where they nest, and so it'll soak the interior of it, 752 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,359 Speaker 5: and it is it's a mess, and it smells, and 753 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 5: it soaks the wood in all this. So what I 754 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,760 Speaker 5: did was and so typically we'd open up the boxes 755 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 5: all winter long just to avoid that from happening in 756 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 5: the springtime. But what you're doing when you do that 757 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 5: is you take away these cavities that birds like a 758 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 5: chickenee would use in the wintertime to do that. So 759 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 5: what I would do is certain boxes that would keep 760 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 5: shut and then monitor those boxes and look for droppings 761 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 5: in their feces in there to indicate how much use 762 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 5: they were getting overnight in you know, in the winter 763 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 5: time for these roosting cavities. And it was quite a 764 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 5: high percentage. It was almost fifty percent of the boxes 765 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 5: were being used for cavity nesting or roosting overnight during 766 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 5: the wintertime. So it was kind of like, well, all right, 767 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:47,799 Speaker 5: so do we leave the boxes closed for the possibilities 768 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,800 Speaker 5: of them roosting. You know, maybe forty some percent of 769 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,399 Speaker 5: them are going to be used for roosting, but then 770 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 5: how many are going to be taken by mice? And 771 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,800 Speaker 5: so it's this balancing act of like, all right, do 772 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 5: we want to keep the mice out, but we want 773 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 5: to have provide the cavity for roosting opportunities overnight because 774 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 5: you know, I'm frankly there's not a lot of roosting 775 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 5: cavities around for these birds to get into, right, I mean, 776 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 5: look around, where do you see those? They're just not 777 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,880 Speaker 5: that common. And so it's a legitimate question trying to 778 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,879 Speaker 5: figure out what do you do? Is it because it's 779 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,799 Speaker 5: a pain for us in the springtime to clean them out, 780 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 5: clean the mice out and you know, get the smell 781 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 5: out and you know, dry it and all that, you know, 782 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,720 Speaker 5: or is it more important for the birds to actually 783 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 5: have a roost spot for overnight uncold cold winter nights. 784 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 2: Have you have you done any research into what they 785 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 2: will use if something is not available, They use some 786 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 2: marginal areas that are really not suited. 787 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, and then what they'll do is, oftentimes we'll sit 788 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 5: on a branch up close to the trunk of a tree, 789 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 5: just kind of pushed up against it. Sometimes they'll line 790 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,760 Speaker 5: up two or three side by side, shoulder and shoulder 791 00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,880 Speaker 5: on a branch pushed up against the trunk of a tree. 792 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 5: So these are not ideal spots, but there are spots 793 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 5: that you know, can work. So yeah, they do do that, 794 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,880 Speaker 5: you know they And because they have to go somewhere. 795 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,879 Speaker 5: I mean, that's a question that I think is a 796 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,319 Speaker 5: very obvious question a lot of people maybe don't even 797 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 5: think about it, is where the birds go at night? Yeah, 798 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 5: you know, because you see them all around during the daytime, 799 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,880 Speaker 5: where are they at night? Well, they're there. They's just 800 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,759 Speaker 5: a matter of rousting. I remember coming home one night 801 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,720 Speaker 5: pulling into my driveway and my headlight's caught a phoebe 802 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 5: sitting on a branch right you know, in a shrub, 803 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,759 Speaker 5: right next to the driveway. And I was like, well, 804 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 5: there's a good example right there. Is here's this phoebe 805 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,799 Speaker 5: sitting overnight in the shrub, just waiting, you know, for 806 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,280 Speaker 5: daylight to come back, and very vulnerable at that point. 807 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 5: And that's the So so let me tie this all 808 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 5: together by then saying Okay, so now you've got owls 809 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 5: who are nesting at this time year. The great grown 810 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 5: owls are nesting at this time of year. It is 811 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 5: a good time for the owls. It's a it's a 812 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 5: season of plenty. Winter is a season of plenty for 813 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 5: these because in the spring and summer, when there's lots 814 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,840 Speaker 5: of leaves on the trees, you can't see the birds, 815 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,680 Speaker 5: they can't find them. There's a lot less cover on 816 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 5: the ground for the mice to hide, you know, all this, 817 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,799 Speaker 5: and so it's really a good time for them to 818 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 5: be nesting right now. Because when we had that snow 819 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,360 Speaker 5: a couple of days ago, this pair of great hornowls, 820 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,560 Speaker 5: the female sitting there, she was completely covered in snow 821 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 5: with just her ear tufts, just these little feather tufts 822 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 5: sticking out of the snow. And so it's really amazing 823 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,919 Speaker 5: and you look at that and you think, how the heck, 824 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 5: Because she's sitting there. Let's say she takes five breaks 825 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,439 Speaker 5: a day at ten minutes of you know, ten minutes each, 826 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,800 Speaker 5: that's fifty minute break. Let's just round it to an hour. 827 00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,359 Speaker 5: So she's sitting there for twenty three hours a day, 828 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 5: not moving, sitting for twenty three hours a day incubating 829 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 5: those eggs, and that I mean you start when you 830 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 5: start putting into perspective in those direct you know, in 831 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 5: those ways, you start thinking wow. And then when you 832 00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:00,400 Speaker 5: see her sitting there completely covered in snow, then you 833 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:06,120 Speaker 5: realize that these are really remarkable animals that are completely 834 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:11,240 Speaker 5: dedicated to their reproduction. And so when you think about 835 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 5: things like, oh, if somebody touches a nest and they think, oh, well, 836 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,760 Speaker 5: the parents are going to reject it because of human 837 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 5: sentient like that. No, No, their drive to reproduce is 838 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:25,799 Speaker 5: so strong that they will go and they'll, like you said, 839 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,400 Speaker 5: they'll sit for twenty three hours a day, you know, 840 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 5: I mean it is so built into them, ingrained into 841 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,320 Speaker 5: them that they are, and the drive is so strong 842 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,399 Speaker 5: that they anything will you know, nothing will stop them 843 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:39,360 Speaker 5: from really doing it. 844 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 3: Sounds like a retirement. 845 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 5: No, sounds like a ton of work to me, not 846 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:47,439 Speaker 5: just sitting there. 847 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:51,239 Speaker 3: Okay, hey Stan, we have to take a pause. 848 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,640 Speaker 5: Or okay, let's do it. 849 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 3: Wonderful. 850 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 2: We will take that break and we will be back 851 00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 2: with more with stand tequila. So hold on, Phillip your 852 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,040 Speaker 2: coffee cup, come on back. We'll be here and we'll 853 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,120 Speaker 2: be waiting for you. Okay, we'll be right back after 854 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 2: this with more Stan humid four minutes after the hour 855 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 2: of seven am on a fan outdoor Saturday morning, Bob 856 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:31,120 Speaker 2: Saint Pierre in studio. Here's truly, that's me, Billy Hildebrand. 857 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:35,319 Speaker 2: I'm here our guest, mister Stan Tequila. Find him at 858 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 2: nature spark dot com. 859 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 3: Stan. 860 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:45,400 Speaker 2: Is your hours still patiently sitting or have they moved 861 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:46,480 Speaker 2: on to other things? 862 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:46,840 Speaker 3: Yes? 863 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:52,360 Speaker 5: So yeah, back to the live action here play by play. 864 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 5: When the mail came into the food it was still 865 00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,680 Speaker 5: dark and so it was at six point thirty or 866 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,759 Speaker 5: six forty was at six point thirty something, so it's 867 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,439 Speaker 5: still pretty dark. And now it's getting light. So now 868 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,160 Speaker 5: we can expect her to be sitting for a while 869 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 5: and just incubating, and the male will be roosting. And 870 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,480 Speaker 5: now now we now take everything we talked about before 871 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,760 Speaker 5: and reverse it for the owls Now, the male owl 872 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 5: will sit in a tree, usually in something fairly well covered, 873 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:26,839 Speaker 5: because otherwise he gets mobbed by you know, crows during 874 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,479 Speaker 5: the during the day, and he'll roost all day long, 875 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,479 Speaker 5: just the opposite of the songbirds, you know, because these 876 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:37,239 Speaker 5: these birds are nocturnal birds, and so that I just 877 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,520 Speaker 5: find the whole thing very fascinating, and it's it's so 878 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,279 Speaker 5: complex and there's so many, you know, facets of it 879 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 5: going on all at the same time, and I always, 880 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:47,960 Speaker 5: I always enjoy that does. 881 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,319 Speaker 2: The male help the incubation at all other than feeding. 882 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:55,640 Speaker 5: Her only now and then when she's gone for longer periods. 883 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,799 Speaker 5: Early on, when she was first laying the eggs, the 884 00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,200 Speaker 5: male would come in and like sit down, like, oh 885 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 5: my gosh, I have to keep these things warm, and 886 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,759 Speaker 5: we just you know, lay on them. The female has 887 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 5: something called a brood patch. This brood patch is when 888 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:14,480 Speaker 5: she's producing eggs, there's certain hormones within her body that 889 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 5: will kind of swell the vascular system in her chest, 890 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:25,520 Speaker 5: and that vascular system brings warm blood closer to the 891 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 5: skin she then will be And this is something you know, 892 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 5: I know a lot about owls, and I've studied them 893 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,280 Speaker 5: obviously for a long long time, but watching this stuff, 894 00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 5: I'm actually learning stuff here too. She has removed several 895 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,839 Speaker 5: of the key down feathers on her chest to kind 896 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,239 Speaker 5: of put into her nest. Now, you guys might be 897 00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 5: familiar with like wood ducks, the females will pluck a 898 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,879 Speaker 5: lot of feathers on her breast in order to line 899 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,960 Speaker 5: the nest like that, and that's a fairly common thing 900 00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 5: to happen to have happened. But with the outl I've 901 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 5: never really noticed it before, and I've been into many 902 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:06,200 Speaker 5: different owl nests in the past and never really kind 903 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 5: of noticed it. But she'll have a dozen or so 904 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 5: feathers in that nest that she's removed from her chest. 905 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,560 Speaker 5: So then when she gets down onto those eggs which 906 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 5: she's coming back to incubate, she very purposely will ball 907 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,319 Speaker 5: up her feet, so in other words, she'll curl in 908 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,320 Speaker 5: her toes so she's not walking on open, flat feet, 909 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,280 Speaker 5: and with her big talons, you know, those big nails 910 00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,040 Speaker 5: sticking out, she actually curls her feet up into like 911 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 5: a little ball and then walks around the ball so 912 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 5: that she's not damaging the eggs with her big sharp feet. 913 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,600 Speaker 5: And then she'll position her chest over the top of 914 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,360 Speaker 5: those eggs, and then she'll shimmy her way down onto 915 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,239 Speaker 5: the eggs, and she works it back and forth, back 916 00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,280 Speaker 5: and forth, and she's working those feathers through the outer 917 00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:54,920 Speaker 5: contour feathers past the inner down feathers which help keep 918 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:59,239 Speaker 5: her warm and get actual skin to egg contact so 919 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,600 Speaker 5: that she can impart her heat of her body into 920 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,480 Speaker 5: those eggs. Because these eggs need to they need to 921 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,080 Speaker 5: incubate at about ninety nine degrees fahrenheit. Well, I mean, 922 00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:15,680 Speaker 5: I don't know what's the temperature outside right now, and yeah, 923 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 5: I'll tell you. And so that temperature gradient, that difference 924 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,520 Speaker 5: from the outside air temperature to that ninety nine degrees 925 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 5: that needs to be in that egg is a lot 926 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 5: and the greater the temperature gradient between them, the harder 927 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 5: it is for her to keep those those eggs at 928 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,080 Speaker 5: those temperatures. So it's very difficult and she but she's 929 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:41,640 Speaker 5: well adapted to do it. And then all those feathers, 930 00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,839 Speaker 5: you know, will help to like wrap a you know, 931 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,359 Speaker 5: kind of a feather blanket around those eggs that will 932 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:50,960 Speaker 5: help keep them close to her body. And then she's 933 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 5: able to do this. 934 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 2: So doesn't the bald eagle male during incubation take turns 935 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,160 Speaker 2: of the female. 936 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:05,719 Speaker 5: There's many species where the males will help incubate, like, 937 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:09,840 Speaker 5: for example, all the woodpeckers, you know, common lots and 938 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,440 Speaker 5: lots of woodpeckers around there. The males do about sixty 939 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:16,319 Speaker 5: percent of the incubating compared to the females doing about 940 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,760 Speaker 5: forty percent. And in that in those woodpeckers, the males 941 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,600 Speaker 5: also get this brood patch, this thing that we're talking about, 942 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:26,440 Speaker 5: this spot on their chest which it becomes more vascularized 943 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:30,440 Speaker 5: and the feathers fall out. Even the males get it 944 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,360 Speaker 5: in the woodpeckers too. So there's many species where the 945 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,120 Speaker 5: males help out and actually do the incubating. There are 946 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:40,840 Speaker 5: some species where the males do. One females actually abandoned 947 00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,680 Speaker 5: and leave, she lays the eggs, males take over. Boom, 948 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,239 Speaker 5: female's gone. She's off to the you know, to the 949 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,040 Speaker 5: sports bar, you know, wherever she's going to go, you know, 950 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,520 Speaker 5: and that's it. Yeah, and go hang out. And so 951 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:57,600 Speaker 5: it's one of those things where if there's a possibility, 952 00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:04,440 Speaker 5: nature will have dabbled in experimenting in trying to make that, 953 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,719 Speaker 5: you know, happen, which I find fascinating. 954 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,480 Speaker 2: Are eagles nesting at this point? 955 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,960 Speaker 5: Oh yes, oh yes, yeah. Eagles so great horned owls 956 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,960 Speaker 5: and bald eagles are our earliest nesting birds. And for 957 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,080 Speaker 5: a couple of different reasons, as we mentioned before, it's 958 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:22,839 Speaker 5: a time of plenty for the owls they don't have, 959 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,840 Speaker 5: you know, there's so much food for them to be 960 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,000 Speaker 5: able to you know, be able to get them through 961 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 5: because the female just needs two or three mice a 962 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,520 Speaker 5: day and I said, she's done, and she doesn't, you know, 963 00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,000 Speaker 5: and then she's fine for twenty three hours or so 964 00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:38,239 Speaker 5: twenty four hours. Then same thing with the eagles, but 965 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:43,200 Speaker 5: they're young, take much longer to grow to, takes longer 966 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,919 Speaker 5: to leave the nest, and then later on takes even 967 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,080 Speaker 5: longer for them to learn to hunt. So they need 968 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,960 Speaker 5: that extra time, So they start early in order to 969 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,439 Speaker 5: be able to get the uh, you know, enough time 970 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:58,480 Speaker 5: in for the because by say October November of you know, 971 00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:02,520 Speaker 5: of the following year, the young are now being pushed 972 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,480 Speaker 5: away because the parents are starting to get ready for 973 00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:09,320 Speaker 5: another round of reproduction and so and even at that 974 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,840 Speaker 5: time in October, all the baby grayhorn owls are calling 975 00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 5: to their parents to be fed and they, you know, 976 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:18,920 Speaker 5: even at that time of year, which kind of cracks 977 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,160 Speaker 5: me up a little bit too. But then that's the 978 00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,080 Speaker 5: time when the parents are saying, no, sorry, junior, we're 979 00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:25,720 Speaker 5: moving on and you're on your own now. 980 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:30,800 Speaker 2: Well, when we were talking about the predator prey relationship. 981 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:36,920 Speaker 2: There's a couple in our neighborhood that are just incensed 982 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,800 Speaker 2: about the squirrels coming into their yard and they don't 983 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:44,360 Speaker 2: have a tree within fifty yards of it. But evidently 984 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 2: I think they're freeding birds. But there's a busy live 985 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:52,560 Speaker 2: trapping and moving these squirrels out into someplace far far away. 986 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,680 Speaker 2: That I said, I told one of the guys who 987 00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,920 Speaker 2: was talking to me about that. I said, they're a 988 00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,880 Speaker 2: food source for some predators when they come around everything. 989 00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you're you're not foxes. 990 00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:10,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not just able to watch your birds uncoming 991 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:12,560 Speaker 2: into your bird feeder. 992 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:13,400 Speaker 3: Whatever. 993 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,800 Speaker 5: Let's let's let's but let's talk about that for a 994 00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:22,520 Speaker 5: second too, because do you think this will work trapping 995 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:23,960 Speaker 5: all the time like that? Do you think that will 996 00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:25,320 Speaker 5: eventually get rid of all of. 997 00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,520 Speaker 2: This what you said, because if there's a void, nature's 998 00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:29,280 Speaker 2: gonna feeling. 999 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:36,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're going to keep having squirrels. Duh, you got 1000 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,280 Speaker 3: some neighbor problems, do you captain? 1001 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:46,080 Speaker 5: Well, it's but it's so, it's very true. It's interesting. 1002 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 5: So I this uh trip to the Yellowstone Uh are 1003 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:53,960 Speaker 5: a lot of people from the UK are on my 1004 00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:59,160 Speaker 5: trips and they also have our gray squirrel So it 1005 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,120 Speaker 5: was it was in to the UK. Now they got 1006 00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:04,360 Speaker 5: gray squirrels all over the place there, and uh, they 1007 00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:08,440 Speaker 5: they trap and kill. They don't trap and move, They 1008 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,400 Speaker 5: trap and kill their gray squirrels. And one couple was 1009 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:16,200 Speaker 5: telling us about their garden, uh that they were, uh 1010 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:21,840 Speaker 5: they they've trapped and killed over three hundred squirrels in 1011 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,840 Speaker 5: just like the last year or so and and and 1012 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,520 Speaker 5: they're still at it. And I so I kind of 1013 00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:32,200 Speaker 5: started to ask them, so, what's your end game on this, 1014 00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:37,120 Speaker 5: because uh, you know you're gonna trap forever and it's 1015 00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:40,120 Speaker 5: not gonna make a difference. You know, they're gonna be, 1016 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,400 Speaker 5: you know, constantly coming back. And as long as you 1017 00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,760 Speaker 5: create that vacuum, you know, more squirrels is going to 1018 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,240 Speaker 5: move into that area because there's no other squirrels there. 1019 00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 5: And they never really thought of it that way. So 1020 00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,080 Speaker 5: it's it's just one of those things where you have 1021 00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,840 Speaker 5: to kind of plot out and be intentional about what 1022 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,640 Speaker 5: you're doing and be realistic too, because you're not going 1023 00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,800 Speaker 5: to be able to remove all squirrels from your yard 1024 01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,200 Speaker 5: because guess what your neighbor is going to have squirrels 1025 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,040 Speaker 5: and they're going to move over, you know, and it's 1026 01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:05,840 Speaker 5: just going to keep going. 1027 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:09,920 Speaker 2: Aside from the fact stand that they're protected and it's illegal. 1028 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:10,960 Speaker 5: You can't do that. 1029 01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:17,880 Speaker 4: There you go, Yeah, I know none the guy says that, 1030 01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:21,880 Speaker 4: all right, I know, we're almost out of town. Are 1031 01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:27,160 Speaker 4: So everybody knows my favorite topic, and that'd be hummingbirds. 1032 01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:33,280 Speaker 8: And because apparently I'm the only one that responds to 1033 01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:37,360 Speaker 8: social media here, what's that it won't be I ge't 1034 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:41,680 Speaker 8: flooded or I've recently been flooded with reports that hummingbirds 1035 01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,720 Speaker 8: are staging in the South and. 1036 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:45,800 Speaker 3: Starting to move north. 1037 01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:50,760 Speaker 4: So so here's your hum hummingbird reports. Since, uh, since 1038 01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:57,000 Speaker 4: you guys are so enamored by hummingbirds, tell us stan 1039 01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:58,280 Speaker 4: are they on the move? 1040 01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,880 Speaker 5: They are? And not only that, purple martins are on 1041 01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,360 Speaker 5: the move too. So, you know, starting end of February, 1042 01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,960 Speaker 5: beginning of March, we see in the Southern States, we're 1043 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,680 Speaker 5: seeing these birds starting to move back further north. Keep 1044 01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,080 Speaker 5: in mind that the hummingbirds, most of our hummingbirds are 1045 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,960 Speaker 5: wintering in Central and South America, mostly Central America, and 1046 01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,720 Speaker 5: purple martins are all in South America. They're all on 1047 01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,080 Speaker 5: the Amazon rainforest and they're all coming back up. And 1048 01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,800 Speaker 5: so because a lot of the ones who migrate the 1049 01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,000 Speaker 5: furthest are the ones who start out the first and 1050 01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:31,760 Speaker 5: they start going and they because they have a long 1051 01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,080 Speaker 5: way to go, and you know, they're going to go 1052 01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:37,240 Speaker 5: in thousands of miles, moving from South America all the 1053 01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:41,479 Speaker 5: way up to say Minnesota, and so it's they start 1054 01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:43,600 Speaker 5: out early, and they and they're starting to move. So 1055 01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,400 Speaker 5: there is hope. You know, the days are getting longer. 1056 01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,560 Speaker 5: If you listen to your birds outside, you can hear 1057 01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:51,280 Speaker 5: chickeny's calling their springtime call. 1058 01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:51,800 Speaker 3: Right now. 1059 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,280 Speaker 5: The nut hatches are starting to give their little we're, 1060 01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:58,080 Speaker 5: which is a springtime call. 1061 01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:03,720 Speaker 3: Things are happening. We're okay, just check out. 1062 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:06,200 Speaker 5: Stand. 1063 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,240 Speaker 2: We're going to have to say goodbye my friend for 1064 01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,240 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks and on that we'll just uh 1065 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:18,200 Speaker 2: because we're we're. I'm being late, But thank you very 1066 01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:19,280 Speaker 2: much for joining us. 1067 01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:23,520 Speaker 5: I appreciate it absolutely, And please people stop by the 1068 01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:27,080 Speaker 5: Nature Smart Media on YouTube and check out the Great 1069 01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,760 Speaker 5: horn Owl nesting cam and give me a give me 1070 01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,520 Speaker 5: a thumbs up and a subscribe. 1071 01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:33,760 Speaker 3: And the flying squirrels too. 1072 01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:38,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, every night I got them. I'm streaming them every 1073 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:38,640 Speaker 5: night too. 1074 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,600 Speaker 3: All right, that's worth its weight in gold, right there. 1075 01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:45,360 Speaker 2: I'm just telling you all anyway, we will uh, we 1076 01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:47,880 Speaker 2: will say goodbye to stand and we will take a 1077 01:02:47,920 --> 01:03:03,880 Speaker 2: break and we'll be right back. Well, we got a 1078 01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:10,120 Speaker 2: hot off the press note from and from alec Oh 1079 01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:15,720 Speaker 2: regarding what's going on in that fair city. But I 1080 01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:20,720 Speaker 2: am told that the fishing for the Cure Ice tournament 1081 01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:25,960 Speaker 2: got canceled on Smith Lake today because of ice conditions. 1082 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:30,840 Speaker 2: So if you were planning on competing, you don't have 1083 01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,040 Speaker 2: to plan anymore. It's not going to happen. 1084 01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:37,560 Speaker 3: I won you were, you had your secret baits all set. 1085 01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:43,480 Speaker 2: Let's bring into the conversation Tackle Terry, because he alerted 1086 01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,720 Speaker 2: me to the same kind of thing when we spoke yesterday. 1087 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,439 Speaker 2: Also Tackle, Good morning, sir, Well. 1088 01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,640 Speaker 6: Good morning to you guys, and good morning everyone. Yes, 1089 01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,960 Speaker 6: the ice is quite unsafe. In fact, I talked to 1090 01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,919 Speaker 6: John's Baden Farewell and I one of the local lakes, 1091 01:03:58,000 --> 01:03:59,920 Speaker 6: one of the wheelhouses went through. Is the only thing 1092 01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:01,160 Speaker 6: that's showing is the roof. 1093 01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:02,960 Speaker 3: That's not a good thing showing. 1094 01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:05,880 Speaker 6: I don't know, I think so, But you know those 1095 01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:07,880 Speaker 6: folks have to get it off one way or another. 1096 01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:12,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's oh, Terry, that's an expensive ordeal too. 1097 01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:14,240 Speaker 6: Oh can you imagine? 1098 01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:15,560 Speaker 5: No, I can't talking about that. 1099 01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:17,960 Speaker 6: They'll have to get a dive team in to hook 1100 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,480 Speaker 6: it up and try to winch it off or I 1101 01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:21,800 Speaker 6: have no idea what they're going to do. 1102 01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,320 Speaker 2: Well, don't they usually have to put a tripod over 1103 01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,040 Speaker 2: it and try to winch it up and then get 1104 01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:26,439 Speaker 2: it off. 1105 01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:32,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, I suppose, depending on how strong the ice is. Yah, 1106 01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,800 Speaker 6: you know it just don't have to get it about 1107 01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,200 Speaker 6: you know something, you know to get it above the ice. 1108 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,920 Speaker 6: But you know, the only thing is you got to, 1109 01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:41,760 Speaker 6: you know, with this kind of way, you've got to 1110 01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:46,200 Speaker 6: you know, use what's on top of your shoulders and 1111 01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:49,040 Speaker 6: get it off, you know. It just I know a 1112 01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,560 Speaker 6: couple of people have pushed it to the tail end, 1113 01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:54,560 Speaker 6: but basically there's no houses out on any lakes anymore. 1114 01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,120 Speaker 2: Well, Terry, you got to pull a wheelhouse off with 1115 01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,600 Speaker 2: something too, unless it's a really light one. 1116 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,360 Speaker 3: But it's probably going to be for sale. 1117 01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:07,040 Speaker 6: Cheap guess so you know hopefully insurance covers it, right, Yeah, 1118 01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:08,400 Speaker 6: the expensive. 1119 01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,160 Speaker 3: Repair, yeah, really much? 1120 01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:14,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, it just yeah, I have noise. It'll be sort 1121 01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:17,640 Speaker 6: of interested to see how they get the house off. 1122 01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,000 Speaker 6: You know. I'm as if they'd even pay a big 1123 01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:21,680 Speaker 6: fine and the d n R takes it off. 1124 01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:27,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's no, that's not a good plan at all. 1125 01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:28,400 Speaker 3: No, no, And. 1126 01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,080 Speaker 6: I drove by a lake yesterday. I've been fishing quite 1127 01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:34,000 Speaker 6: a little bit and the axis opened up was open 1128 01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:38,440 Speaker 6: water and for quite a ways out And actually yesterday 1129 01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:40,680 Speaker 6: as it yesterday afternoon was get my ice on there. 1130 01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,000 Speaker 6: But I just looked up the extend of forecast and 1131 01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:45,000 Speaker 6: I was supposed to get really courts five above here 1132 01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:45,600 Speaker 6: this morning. 1133 01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,200 Speaker 2: Well we had twelve at home when I woke up 1134 01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:51,080 Speaker 2: this morning. But it's got to be it's got to 1135 01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:54,920 Speaker 2: be a well below freezing for a period of time 1136 01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:59,800 Speaker 2: before those axises are going to get really usable again. 1137 01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,280 Speaker 6: Or there's no question about that, I think, you know, 1138 01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:06,760 Speaker 6: and by the extent of work, because is below freezing, 1139 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,760 Speaker 6: so uh so we might be back driving out. 1140 01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:09,960 Speaker 5: You know. 1141 01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:13,000 Speaker 6: The main ice is you know, probably got a little soft, 1142 01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:16,800 Speaker 6: but it can definitely refreeze. So we shouldn't give up 1143 01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:17,880 Speaker 6: yet for ice fishing. 1144 01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:21,840 Speaker 3: We I should all done. 1145 01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,720 Speaker 6: I'd like to get out a few more times I've 1146 01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,320 Speaker 6: been out on the ice quite a bit this winter. 1147 01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:31,720 Speaker 2: So well, Terry still be able to walk out. I mean, 1148 01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:34,040 Speaker 2: for you'll be able to get out for quite a while. 1149 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:36,360 Speaker 2: It's just traveling you're going to have to use the 1150 01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,680 Speaker 2: two feet on the end of your legs. 1151 01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:42,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, you think, but even I looked along a couple 1152 01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,720 Speaker 6: of shorelines bill and was starting to open up. Oh 1153 01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:47,440 Speaker 6: so so you know, but if you can find a 1154 01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:50,920 Speaker 6: protected area where the sun hasn't hit, uh, then you 1155 01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:52,880 Speaker 6: probably be able to walk. But man, you got to 1156 01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:53,440 Speaker 6: be careful. 1157 01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I yeah. 1158 01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:01,920 Speaker 2: Plank time and I've never been a favor. 1159 01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:06,240 Speaker 3: Have you done that for if. 1160 01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:12,080 Speaker 6: Few times? But you know, then if it freezes a 1161 01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:13,920 Speaker 6: little bit, that plank gets awful slippery. 1162 01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:17,560 Speaker 2: Well, and also if somebody takes the plank and belongs 1163 01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:20,920 Speaker 2: that owns it, then you're so o l Yeah you 1164 01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:21,880 Speaker 2: really are. 1165 01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:25,240 Speaker 6: That's right, that's right. But you know, I and to 1166 01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:29,160 Speaker 6: be honest, I haven't seen people use planks in the 1167 01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:33,480 Speaker 6: last two three years, so maybe that you know, and 1168 01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:35,360 Speaker 6: you got a chance of slipping off too. 1169 01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's uh, I don't know. 1170 01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,600 Speaker 6: It just when it comes to that, guys, it's just 1171 01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:43,600 Speaker 6: time to hang it up. 1172 01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,720 Speaker 3: Well, it's time to wait for open water come on. 1173 01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,280 Speaker 6: Around, exactly right, and you know there's plenty to do 1174 01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:51,600 Speaker 6: right now, you know, just to sort of by time. 1175 01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:55,080 Speaker 6: If you have to open water. You got rod and reels, 1176 01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:58,160 Speaker 6: your lures to do placeline, you can go on and 1177 01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,560 Speaker 6: on with different balls well. 1178 01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,800 Speaker 2: And you can also it's a good excuse to go 1179 01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:08,840 Speaker 2: go look for some new things and enhance your offering 1180 01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:11,240 Speaker 2: to the finny grinners in the spring. 1181 01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,840 Speaker 6: Oh, that's exactly right. And there's always du ruers that 1182 01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,680 Speaker 6: are coming out to do different products, and it is 1183 01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:21,439 Speaker 6: good a great time to do that. Go on on 1184 01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,559 Speaker 6: Google some of the new equipment out there or whatever. 1185 01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,519 Speaker 6: We need to go to a retail store, get that 1186 01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,080 Speaker 6: product in your hands, see what you think of It 1187 01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:34,000 Speaker 6: is something that can benefit me specie wise, and it 1188 01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:35,639 Speaker 6: is a wonderful time to do this. 1189 01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,679 Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of ice tackle that's on sale 1190 01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:41,800 Speaker 2: right now too, Terry, that you can think ahead for 1191 01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:43,920 Speaker 2: next year and plan ahead a little bit. 1192 01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:47,479 Speaker 6: Oh sure, that's exactly right. So it's it's wise just 1193 01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:50,759 Speaker 6: to go to a retail store and just shop around, 1194 01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:53,640 Speaker 6: especially you know on days where you can be on 1195 01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:54,719 Speaker 6: the ice or the water. 1196 01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:58,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I agree, and plus I've been done. Also, 1197 01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,720 Speaker 3: have you been sitting in your boat in your garage? Yeah, 1198 01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:02,040 Speaker 3: I can't. 1199 01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:04,439 Speaker 2: No, I can't get at it yet. There's still too much. 1200 01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:05,759 Speaker 2: I can't get the gate opener. 1201 01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:06,240 Speaker 3: I would be. 1202 01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:09,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, same here, it'll be you know. But as soon 1203 01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:14,240 Speaker 6: as that weather breaks, if boat, they're a boat in storage, 1204 01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:17,160 Speaker 6: so I'll bring them. I'll bring one of them for sure, 1205 01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:21,240 Speaker 6: and then I will you go over it and get 1206 01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:23,920 Speaker 6: new tackle put in it and get ready for the 1207 01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,679 Speaker 6: open water crappie fishing, wiley fishing on the river. 1208 01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:29,880 Speaker 4: Well, what is the earliest you've ever been floating in 1209 01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:31,280 Speaker 4: your boat in the springtime? 1210 01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:31,839 Speaker 3: Tackle? 1211 01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:36,679 Speaker 6: March? And how are we This is a few years 1212 01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:38,479 Speaker 6: ago March first we had open water. 1213 01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:42,600 Speaker 2: I remember that that was it was a phenomenal Minnetonko 1214 01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:43,880 Speaker 2: opened up at her too. 1215 01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:47,479 Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, it was really and who knows. You know, 1216 01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,479 Speaker 6: we've got a lot of ice this year, so it'll 1217 01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:54,439 Speaker 6: be a little bit. But mother nature can do whatever 1218 01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,880 Speaker 6: she wants and they could warm up and stay warm, 1219 01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,640 Speaker 6: and the ice is going to go really fast and 1220 01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:02,040 Speaker 6: then we and start to launch their boats. 1221 01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:03,320 Speaker 3: Well, the thing is terry. 1222 01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,479 Speaker 2: The sun is when you when it is a clear 1223 01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:07,519 Speaker 2: day like it is right now, the sun has got 1224 01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:11,040 Speaker 2: some warp and it's uh. I can tell because my 1225 01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:14,840 Speaker 2: dogs they they like the sun and they just follow 1226 01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:16,840 Speaker 2: it around in the living room. 1227 01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:21,200 Speaker 6: But you're but you're right. Yeah, the sun is so strong. Uh, 1228 01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:24,200 Speaker 6: it doesn't take long for lakes to change and ice 1229 01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:27,160 Speaker 6: conditions to shake. That's why if you're still thinking about 1230 01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:29,400 Speaker 6: walking out, is to find a shaded area where it's 1231 01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,360 Speaker 6: protected from the sun. And many times those can be 1232 01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,240 Speaker 6: good approaches to get on the ice walking only. 1233 01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:37,840 Speaker 2: And the other thing terry is people go out on 1234 01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,519 Speaker 2: late ice. My gosh, bring a life jacket or wear 1235 01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:41,400 Speaker 2: a life jacket. 1236 01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,479 Speaker 6: Yeah, and see if you can bring a fishing buddy, 1237 01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:48,000 Speaker 6: which you two with a rope or whatever. But man, 1238 01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:50,679 Speaker 6: once it's it's to that point. But I will say 1239 01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:52,960 Speaker 6: one thing, you can have some awfully good fishing at 1240 01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,240 Speaker 6: that time. I think late ice is the best time 1241 01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:58,719 Speaker 6: to catch fish, even much much better than early ice. 1242 01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:00,799 Speaker 2: Well, if you're going to go out, then go shoulder 1243 01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:03,320 Speaker 2: to shoulder so you're both exactly in the same place. 1244 01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:10,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, right, yeah, is that natural selection? Use common sense. 1245 01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:14,120 Speaker 6: There's no sense. No fishes worth out falling through. 1246 01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,479 Speaker 2: There isn't much common sense left in the population anymore. 1247 01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:18,639 Speaker 3: Terry, I don't think. 1248 01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:22,439 Speaker 6: I think you're right. A couple of years. 1249 01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:26,720 Speaker 4: Ago, get off the captain's lawn and don't shoot squirrels. 1250 01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:30,519 Speaker 2: That's right, right, rare in form today, captain, just stay 1251 01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:31,240 Speaker 2: off my yard. 1252 01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:32,800 Speaker 3: Get off my spot too. 1253 01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:37,000 Speaker 6: We have a lot of things, you know, that we 1254 01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,400 Speaker 6: can do at this time of the year. It's I 1255 01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,439 Speaker 6: sort of call a transition time, you know, getting ready 1256 01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:45,200 Speaker 6: for open water fishing. Maybe if you're done ice fishing, 1257 01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:48,280 Speaker 6: put your ice fishing in a gear away. There's a 1258 01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:50,479 Speaker 6: ton of projects that we can buy time. 1259 01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:55,160 Speaker 2: With, you know, Terry, I'm I'm I'm the world's worst 1260 01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:58,800 Speaker 2: tackle store or because when I'm done in the fall, 1261 01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,200 Speaker 2: it's usually a rush to get the boat winter rise 1262 01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:05,240 Speaker 2: empty everything out that just gets in boxes. So I've 1263 01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:08,080 Speaker 2: got about two or three days just sorting things out 1264 01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:09,400 Speaker 2: that I throw in stuff. 1265 01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:13,479 Speaker 6: But you know, that's a good idea, you know, I 1266 01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:17,680 Speaker 6: think this is a great opportunity for us to repunish 1267 01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:21,479 Speaker 6: baits and lures, rotten reels, or if you haven't used 1268 01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:23,599 Speaker 6: lures for a couple of years, to get rid of them. 1269 01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:26,080 Speaker 6: All they're doing is taking up space and the tackle 1270 01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:30,040 Speaker 6: container and then also to it becomes confusing. You know, 1271 01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:32,559 Speaker 6: maybe we think, well, you know, should I try this 1272 01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:34,519 Speaker 6: when the fish aren't bity, which is the worst time 1273 01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:36,920 Speaker 6: to try it, because you need to know is that 1274 01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:39,040 Speaker 6: that we're going to produce when the fish are going. 1275 01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:42,519 Speaker 2: Well, I wonder if this still works. I haven't caught 1276 01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:44,479 Speaker 2: anything on it yet, but it might work this time. 1277 01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,679 Speaker 6: But you know, I think a lot of angers fall 1278 01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:51,799 Speaker 6: into that trap where they have some lures that are 1279 01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,160 Speaker 6: you know, don't just don't produce for the style of 1280 01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,439 Speaker 6: fishing we're doing, and this is the time to get 1281 01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:57,679 Speaker 6: it out of that tackle box. 1282 01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,280 Speaker 2: Well, some of the skirts too, if they get all old, 1283 01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,559 Speaker 2: the skirts on like a spinner bait or some of 1284 01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:06,200 Speaker 2: the some of the plugs and stuff like when they 1285 01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:09,160 Speaker 2: get really old, either they get brittle and they just 1286 01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:11,080 Speaker 2: fall apart or they're all mushed together. 1287 01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,679 Speaker 5: And yes, exactly, exactly right. 1288 01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:16,760 Speaker 6: That's why it's such a good time too. Like with 1289 01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:20,000 Speaker 6: blades on spinner baits or so forth, you can if 1290 01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:24,160 Speaker 6: it's a silver card one, you can add each polish 1291 01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:26,439 Speaker 6: those up and get that flash back to them. Same 1292 01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:29,680 Speaker 6: thing if a person uses spoons. If it's got a 1293 01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:32,240 Speaker 6: gold or silver back, you can actually polish that up 1294 01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:36,160 Speaker 6: to get that flash for the fish to strike. 1295 01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:38,759 Speaker 2: Do you think you do polish some of this stuff, Terry, 1296 01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:42,599 Speaker 2: The scent from the polish is going to be negative for. 1297 01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,680 Speaker 6: Fish, Yeah, it can. But what you can do now, 1298 01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:49,920 Speaker 6: say if we have a tackle container of holding lures 1299 01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:53,160 Speaker 6: and so forth, and or even with your live well, 1300 01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:57,080 Speaker 6: what you can do is take baking soda and just 1301 01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:00,400 Speaker 6: put some fresh warm water in there. And like with 1302 01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:03,400 Speaker 6: tackle boxes or lures, you can just put them in 1303 01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:05,760 Speaker 6: a laundry tubb or whatever. Just put them in there 1304 01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:08,760 Speaker 6: for about five minutes. That'll descent that and then take 1305 01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:11,280 Speaker 6: it up. And you have to make very very sure 1306 01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:15,040 Speaker 6: that they're they're extremely dry, otherwise you'll have a rusty shoe. 1307 01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:21,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've had that before. Or if some of your 1308 01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:25,160 Speaker 2: boxes a leak and it rains real bad and they 1309 01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:29,000 Speaker 2: set out a little bit, it doesn't take much for rust, No. 1310 01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:30,920 Speaker 6: It does not. You even if you're out fishing it's 1311 01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:35,479 Speaker 6: raining and you open up your especially with hartbeats or 1312 01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:39,760 Speaker 6: spinner beats, is you get a few drops of rain 1313 01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:42,519 Speaker 6: in there, you best when you get home open them 1314 01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:43,559 Speaker 6: up and let them air dry. 1315 01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:46,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, either that or when you open it next time, 1316 01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:52,000 Speaker 2: just get a garbage can and throw them away right away. 1317 01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,720 Speaker 6: Right, that's right. But they're like, you know, like they're said, 1318 01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:54,679 Speaker 6: and you know, this is a time frame to to 1319 01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:58,800 Speaker 6: maybe pick out new lakes, maybe try some different presentations 1320 01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:01,800 Speaker 6: and take nees for us. Just write it down, you know, 1321 01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:04,000 Speaker 6: and then make sure that you do it when you 1322 01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:08,720 Speaker 6: get out fishing, and it really enhances our productivity. I 1323 01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:11,120 Speaker 6: think it's so many times, you know, I think we 1324 01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,960 Speaker 6: always think we know everything about fishing. We have many 1325 01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:15,920 Speaker 6: times I don't think we know anything about fishing. 1326 01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,719 Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us on Saturday morning out. 1327 01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:25,320 Speaker 6: Doors, you know, because you're always doing something different, and 1328 01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:29,040 Speaker 6: if we don't accept that, it's so often we hear 1329 01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,680 Speaker 6: the comment, well, you'll go out for a couple of 1330 01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:33,960 Speaker 6: hours and fish aren't biting. We go to the same 1331 01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:37,360 Speaker 6: spot where they're biting someplace on that lake. But we 1332 01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:42,320 Speaker 6: become so frustrated, and then our concentration has gone, our 1333 01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:47,160 Speaker 6: patience is gone, and we should never ever let that happen. 1334 01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:51,120 Speaker 6: You cannot hit a lake and expect great results in 1335 01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:53,280 Speaker 6: two hours. Most of the time, Terry. 1336 01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,920 Speaker 2: I was thinking about this the other day too, because 1337 01:15:56,000 --> 01:16:00,519 Speaker 2: I well, I was looking at tackle and in But 1338 01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:03,840 Speaker 2: I remember one year it was we were we were 1339 01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:06,679 Speaker 2: catching fish on jigs, on light jigs, on the Lindy 1340 01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:12,840 Speaker 2: Lindy live bait jig, and it was everything it had 1341 01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:15,720 Speaker 2: to be pink, and if it wasn't pink, it didn't work. 1342 01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:17,760 Speaker 3: As we try other colors. So I got a lot 1343 01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:18,120 Speaker 3: of pink. 1344 01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,439 Speaker 4: I've been telling you that for eighteen years, but go 1345 01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:21,679 Speaker 4: ahead and finish your story. 1346 01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:26,400 Speaker 2: So then another year, it was two or three years ago, purple, 1347 01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:30,760 Speaker 2: and it was just everything, everything was purple and it 1348 01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:35,960 Speaker 2: worked great. But then it changed. Last year it changed 1349 01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:40,800 Speaker 2: to it was more of a fire tiger, and later 1350 01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:44,120 Speaker 2: in the year fire tiger and the purple didn't work. 1351 01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:50,160 Speaker 2: The pink didn't work. You sure positive I tried it 1352 01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:54,479 Speaker 2: just for you. So there, okay, But how the colors 1353 01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:58,559 Speaker 2: changed each year, I don't fishing Maybe change, I don't know. 1354 01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:03,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, you're exactly right. That's why, Uh, it's very wise 1355 01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,800 Speaker 6: for us to take you know, uh, at least you know, 1356 01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:08,519 Speaker 6: I usually take about four rods ice fishing something in 1357 01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:11,400 Speaker 6: that area or same thing in the summertime, much more 1358 01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:14,640 Speaker 6: with all pre rigged with different colors. But you're one 1359 01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:18,479 Speaker 6: hundred percent right, Bill, there's no question. Yeah. I think 1360 01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:21,439 Speaker 6: first we have to understand, uh, you have to find 1361 01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:23,679 Speaker 6: a fish, get something going, and then start to work 1362 01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:26,400 Speaker 6: with colors. I've seen colors change, like when I was 1363 01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:29,679 Speaker 6: out the other day, colors changed with it, sometimes within 1364 01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:33,000 Speaker 6: two three hours. And I think I really feel that 1365 01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:35,640 Speaker 6: fish get conditioned to that for a certain time. And 1366 01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:39,200 Speaker 6: to be honest with you, especially fishing for winter sun 1367 01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:45,120 Speaker 6: fish and crap these pink is a good color. Valid 1368 01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:48,639 Speaker 6: fish in the summertime many times can be go to color. 1369 01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:51,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And I don't know. 1370 01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:53,840 Speaker 2: Maybe it's the color that we catch a few fish 1371 01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,600 Speaker 2: on that we just concentrate on that and fish it 1372 01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:57,240 Speaker 2: really hard. 1373 01:17:57,680 --> 01:17:58,439 Speaker 3: It's very pleased. 1374 01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:00,560 Speaker 6: I think you're exactly right. Yes, there's a lot to 1375 01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:03,479 Speaker 6: be set about. You know, we put a new color 1376 01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:05,479 Speaker 6: on our new road, we start said, well, I don't 1377 01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:07,880 Speaker 6: know if this is really going to work, so we're 1378 01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:11,400 Speaker 6: not really trying our you know, many times maybe we're 1379 01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:14,800 Speaker 6: jigging or whatever we're doing, or using a wacky worm 1380 01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:17,880 Speaker 6: or whatever, and we change it because we already feel, well, 1381 01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,000 Speaker 6: I'm trying this. I don't know if it's going to 1382 01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:24,560 Speaker 6: really work, and so therefore then our concentration has changed drastically, 1383 01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:26,800 Speaker 6: And there's a lot to be set about that same 1384 01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:29,360 Speaker 6: thing with you know, the bites going on at certain 1385 01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:31,240 Speaker 6: times of the day. In fact, there were some tests 1386 01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:34,240 Speaker 6: done where they said the fish were only biting at noon, 1387 01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:37,679 Speaker 6: and that was not the case when I should retract. 1388 01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:42,200 Speaker 6: The studies said that fish bite at noon, or it 1389 01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:44,920 Speaker 6: was a moon phase or whatever, And all of a sudden, 1390 01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:50,479 Speaker 6: these tests were studied with skin divers, and when that 1391 01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,320 Speaker 6: timeframe came when they said that fish should be biting, 1392 01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:57,280 Speaker 6: that's exactly how these baits made such a difference. We 1393 01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:58,920 Speaker 6: fished them differently. 1394 01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, you are going to catch him if you don't go. 1395 01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:03,240 Speaker 2: So if you say they aren't gonna bite until noon, 1396 01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:04,559 Speaker 2: you end up on the lake at noon. 1397 01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:06,200 Speaker 3: If they're gonna bite, they're gonna bite. 1398 01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:06,720 Speaker 7: Right. 1399 01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:09,120 Speaker 6: You do not know, you know, you do not catch 1400 01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:10,840 Speaker 6: fish watching TV. 1401 01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:13,120 Speaker 3: No, no, no, Terry. 1402 01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:15,760 Speaker 2: We'll let you go, my friend, and we will talk 1403 01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:16,320 Speaker 2: again in a. 1404 01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:16,920 Speaker 3: Couple of weeks. 1405 01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:19,920 Speaker 6: Sound great, everybody, have a wonderful week. And if you lie, 1406 01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,479 Speaker 6: you should just be careful. But better yet, get ready 1407 01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:23,120 Speaker 6: for open water. 1408 01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:26,200 Speaker 3: There we go. I'm for that. I vote for you, Terry, 1409 01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:27,600 Speaker 3: I vote for you. 1410 01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:29,320 Speaker 6: Bob on board. 1411 01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:32,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he's got a he hain't got 1412 01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:34,160 Speaker 2: a found. He han't found his boat yet, and I'm 1413 01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:35,840 Speaker 2: not gonna tell where it is. 1414 01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:39,240 Speaker 6: Well, great, have a great week, and everybody tackle. 1415 01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:42,200 Speaker 2: Terry joins us every other week on Fan Outdoors. We 1416 01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:45,920 Speaker 2: will take a pause and be back with one more 1417 01:19:46,040 --> 01:20:07,759 Speaker 2: segment after this. Man, it's the last segment for this morning, 1418 01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:12,200 Speaker 2: but it's not the last segment for today from Fan Outdoors. 1419 01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:15,320 Speaker 2: So it's just gonna give you a heads up. Come 1420 01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:20,679 Speaker 2: on down to the Convention Center in Minneapolis to pheasant Fest. 1421 01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:24,280 Speaker 3: We are going to be live and. 1422 01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:29,799 Speaker 4: Lost, Live and locals now, Live and lost, Live and lost, 1423 01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:31,439 Speaker 4: and we're not gonna be lost. 1424 01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:33,799 Speaker 3: We're gonna be the habitat help area. 1425 01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:37,160 Speaker 2: Oh that's right, all right, Well I might be lost, 1426 01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:39,759 Speaker 2: So if you see me wandering around, it won't. 1427 01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:41,640 Speaker 3: Be anything really out of the door. It won't be 1428 01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:42,439 Speaker 3: not at all. 1429 01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:48,760 Speaker 2: Sometimes they just pick up an empty cup and I'll 1430 01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:51,639 Speaker 2: start broadcasting and talking into it with a string going 1431 01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:52,880 Speaker 2: somewhere and we'll never know. 1432 01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:56,200 Speaker 4: We'll have a stack of eight x tens of the captain. 1433 01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:59,240 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, for autographs and if you'd like to take 1434 01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:00,880 Speaker 4: selfies with the captain. 1435 01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:02,760 Speaker 3: Can be available. Yeah, that's right. 1436 01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:05,000 Speaker 2: Just find me, point me in the right direction and 1437 01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:12,519 Speaker 2: we can take pictures all the way over. But it 1438 01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:14,639 Speaker 2: is we are going to be on and we'll start 1439 01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:18,040 Speaker 2: right around one o'clock. We're hoping one o'clock if not 1440 01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:22,720 Speaker 2: shortly thereafter, and we will be broadcasting live down at 1441 01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:29,040 Speaker 2: pheasant Fest. And we have a lineup of guests ready 1442 01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:33,000 Speaker 2: to come on board too, and they include the CEO, 1443 01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:36,639 Speaker 2: Marilyn Vetter of Veses Forever Yeah yep. 1444 01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:37,479 Speaker 3: And we get. 1445 01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:43,880 Speaker 4: Uh Carl Gunza from Perina yep, and likely a visit 1446 01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:49,639 Speaker 4: from a senator, so who knows who else will pull 1447 01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:50,360 Speaker 4: off the street. 1448 01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:57,360 Speaker 2: Yeah that's and of course to the dog the dogs 1449 01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:01,439 Speaker 2: are worth coming for. That's my favorite part when they do. 1450 01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:03,760 Speaker 2: Are they going to do that panel again? Yeah? They 1451 01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:07,120 Speaker 2: at the end of every day. Yeah, that's an awesome panel. 1452 01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:07,920 Speaker 3: Folks. Come on. 1453 01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:11,880 Speaker 2: If you're a dog person, male female, thinking about a dog, 1454 01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,840 Speaker 2: youhana behind a dog, you'd like to know more about it, 1455 01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:18,200 Speaker 2: come and listen to this panel because you will glean 1456 01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:21,400 Speaker 2: information that's invaluable. 1457 01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:24,760 Speaker 4: Is there a breed of dog you would like to 1458 01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:31,400 Speaker 4: talk with a club about on the show today. American Brittany, 1459 01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:35,040 Speaker 4: American Britty. Okay, I will find somebody to talk britt. 1460 01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:42,200 Speaker 2: I you know, very honestly, I thought about a French Brittany. Okay, 1461 01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:43,959 Speaker 2: in Britton. 1462 01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:50,439 Speaker 3: Okay, whatever you. 1463 01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:58,120 Speaker 2: Say, Bob, whenever you say Britton, and I'm not I'm 1464 01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:01,800 Speaker 2: not sure Bria is just somebody said something about are 1465 01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:02,960 Speaker 2: you getting a pupp this fall? 1466 01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:05,360 Speaker 3: In the spring. I maybe asked you that like every 1467 01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:08,840 Speaker 3: other day, but I need I. 1468 01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:16,479 Speaker 2: Owe it to breed who came after Snam and I 1469 01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:18,640 Speaker 2: owe it to her because she's just starting to be 1470 01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:22,559 Speaker 2: a wonderful dog. Last year she was much much better 1471 01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:24,680 Speaker 2: than the year before. 1472 01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:25,760 Speaker 3: Four for you. 1473 01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:30,880 Speaker 2: And I maintained too that Britney's they're idiots until they're 1474 01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:36,200 Speaker 2: about three. They're just boneheads and it's almost like they 1475 01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:37,439 Speaker 2: see the light shining. 1476 01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:42,599 Speaker 4: That's somewhat true of most breeds. As they mature, they 1477 01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:45,880 Speaker 4: are they are puppies for a long Oh yeah, I 1478 01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:47,960 Speaker 4: haven't had any go over the hill on me, though. 1479 01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:54,360 Speaker 4: There's one I remember, boy that was before e Collers, 1480 01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:57,200 Speaker 4: where I just ran and ran and ran. Oh yeah, 1481 01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:01,280 Speaker 4: took off, Brittany or no golden No it was. I 1482 01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:04,200 Speaker 4: don't even what it was, but I think it might 1483 01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:06,920 Speaker 4: have been a golden But anyway, you took off over 1484 01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:09,960 Speaker 4: the hill. And it was right around the end of 1485 01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:12,840 Speaker 4: the year and a long time ago, right around the 1486 01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:18,960 Speaker 4: end of the year, and I didn't see it until sundown, really, 1487 01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:22,799 Speaker 4: and you would have been beside yourself, you think, yeah, 1488 01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:23,360 Speaker 4: I knew. 1489 01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:25,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was pretty upset. 1490 01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:30,519 Speaker 2: And they come, Oh, this little one who it was, 1491 01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:33,920 Speaker 2: took off. I let her go out in this wildlife 1492 01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:36,720 Speaker 2: here you And it was a big square out where 1493 01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:38,920 Speaker 2: we wanted the places in the other end of where 1494 01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,960 Speaker 2: we hunt. So I thought, sure were fine, and she 1495 01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:44,360 Speaker 2: was being really good. I had her on a long rope, 1496 01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:47,240 Speaker 2: and well, just let her go here because she's minding 1497 01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:51,000 Speaker 2: pretty well. I took the rope off. That little dog 1498 01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:56,280 Speaker 2: took off across the plowing and I thought, I'm chasing 1499 01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:59,600 Speaker 2: after her. I'm falling down in the grass. I'm screaming, 1500 01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:03,400 Speaker 2: my life lungs out and she's not coming back. All 1501 01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:09,040 Speaker 2: I saw was a speck on plowing over toward a farmhouse, 1502 01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:13,080 Speaker 2: and it had to be well, I don't know. It 1503 01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:16,559 Speaker 2: was a long long way away and I'm screaming, and 1504 01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:19,880 Speaker 2: all of a sudden she made this big circle and 1505 01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:24,439 Speaker 2: came back just lickety split, hit that low that ditch, 1506 01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:27,160 Speaker 2: went down there, came out, came over to me like 1507 01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:30,840 Speaker 2: nothing was wrong, and she did exactly what I was 1508 01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:35,000 Speaker 2: asking her to do, just a little roundabout way. Yeah. 1509 01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:37,439 Speaker 2: I thought to myself, you can't scold her. She's doing 1510 01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:42,160 Speaker 2: what you want. You can't scold her. Yeah, And I said. 1511 01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:51,519 Speaker 3: Oh, good girl. So they teach your patients do. 1512 01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:57,600 Speaker 2: Not forget that a little bitty speck in the horizon. 1513 01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:00,280 Speaker 2: I don't know what turned her around, but I'm glad 1514 01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:04,000 Speaker 2: she did, because I couldn't get to the car way 1515 01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:06,519 Speaker 2: soon enough to get anything. I thought she was gone, 1516 01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:12,320 Speaker 2: but she wasn't. And Brie is much much better than 1517 01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:12,800 Speaker 2: she was. 1518 01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:13,360 Speaker 3: A year before. 1519 01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:17,160 Speaker 2: She quarters well, she minds like a lick, and she 1520 01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:21,679 Speaker 2: just she's really good. So I owe her another couple 1521 01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:25,000 Speaker 2: of years too, because she might want to trade me 1522 01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:28,160 Speaker 2: in before I could trade her and get a new 1523 01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:31,040 Speaker 2: get a new handle, or a new guy with a gun. 1524 01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:32,920 Speaker 6: Oh. 1525 01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:35,200 Speaker 2: I shot pretty well opening day last year. That's the 1526 01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:38,760 Speaker 2: only shots I had, basically, is that right That was 1527 01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:43,760 Speaker 2: the only weekend. Really you saw the birds saw some 1528 01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:47,040 Speaker 2: other birds close to them? Well, yeah, they were wild 1529 01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:52,840 Speaker 2: her a lot of hands. I can't remember whether something much. 1530 01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:56,360 Speaker 3: We'll go. I think I don't know. 1531 01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:59,160 Speaker 2: I think my breathing was such that I ran out 1532 01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:00,320 Speaker 2: of air for a while too. 1533 01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:01,559 Speaker 3: Just at the dock. 1534 01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:03,519 Speaker 2: He says, you know you haven't filled your inhaler for 1535 01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:07,640 Speaker 2: a long time, and I said, I haven't used it. 1536 01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:10,320 Speaker 2: I don't remember when I used it last summer when 1537 01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:13,479 Speaker 2: we had that real thick smoke in the and then 1538 01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:15,360 Speaker 2: it got real difficult to breathe. 1539 01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:19,000 Speaker 3: You have asthma, but not a very scientific. 1540 01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:23,000 Speaker 2: Cat severe asthma as a child, as a young child 1541 01:27:23,720 --> 01:27:25,400 Speaker 2: in and iron lung for a long time. 1542 01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:28,320 Speaker 3: I have heard that term, but I don't really know what. 1543 01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:29,639 Speaker 3: It helps you breathe. 1544 01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:33,000 Speaker 2: It's into this apparatus that it was, and it helps 1545 01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:36,360 Speaker 2: you breathe because I couldn't. In fact, I heard stories 1546 01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:39,560 Speaker 2: about my folks talking about taking me someplace at a 1547 01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:43,200 Speaker 2: way as some woman quack waved bat wings over me 1548 01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:47,599 Speaker 2: as well. Come on, really, I don't remember it, but 1549 01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:49,320 Speaker 2: that's the stories I had heard. 1550 01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:51,960 Speaker 3: They were looking for anything. 1551 01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:55,680 Speaker 4: So that's why the way you are. Yeah, someone was 1552 01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:57,200 Speaker 4: waving bat wings over you. 1553 01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:59,880 Speaker 3: As a kid, I have a tendency to sleep upside down. 1554 01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:07,280 Speaker 2: Good and you eat chase mosquitoes, them campfire, just nip them. 1555 01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:13,479 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Sometimes a tongue rolls out. 1556 01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:15,519 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1557 01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:17,800 Speaker 3: I just never know where this conversation is going to 1558 01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:18,880 Speaker 3: go some mornings. 1559 01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:24,640 Speaker 2: So anyway, one cock upside down, Yes, one o'clock this afternoon, 1560 01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:33,000 Speaker 2: A very very professional conversation with a senator. I hope 1561 01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:34,960 Speaker 2: somebody else is leading it because you won't find it 1562 01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:39,800 Speaker 2: for me. But it'll be fun and it's always fun. 1563 01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:42,720 Speaker 2: And the reason I say that is because if you 1564 01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:44,600 Speaker 2: are a hunter, I don't know if you're a what 1565 01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:48,400 Speaker 2: kind of bird hunter, you are, waterfowl whatever, You're around 1566 01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:51,280 Speaker 2: like minded people and they're thinking the same thing. And 1567 01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:55,240 Speaker 2: I think that's important too. There's a lot of dogs 1568 01:28:55,320 --> 01:29:00,320 Speaker 2: and the number one reason people, you know, as we 1569 01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:03,439 Speaker 2: survey them after they're leaving, you know, what did you 1570 01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:05,639 Speaker 2: why'd you come dogs number one? 1571 01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:09,439 Speaker 3: Why would you come back? Dogs? Number What was your 1572 01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:12,960 Speaker 3: favorite elements of the show? Dogs number one? Yeah? 1573 01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:17,360 Speaker 4: The dogs are you know, it's the cocaine a conservation. 1574 01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:21,880 Speaker 4: It gets people gets people addicted at the outdoors and 1575 01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:24,800 Speaker 4: caring about better wildlife habitat. 1576 01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:25,360 Speaker 3: And the trainers. 1577 01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:28,280 Speaker 2: You've got to stop and talk with the trainers that 1578 01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:30,479 Speaker 2: are there, or sit and listen to that panel. 1579 01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:31,400 Speaker 3: At the end of the day. 1580 01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:34,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's lots to see and do. There'll be a 1581 01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:38,080 Speaker 2: fun time, a good time. Music's plan which means it's 1582 01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:39,040 Speaker 2: in his own time. 1583 01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:39,879 Speaker 5: Huh. 1584 01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:43,839 Speaker 2: We're going to give it up to Tucker and Sinecon 1585 01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:47,160 Speaker 2: and we will bid you ado. But I want to 1586 01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:50,640 Speaker 2: say thank you, thank you, and keep in mind the 1587 01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:55,960 Speaker 2: Muskie Expo coming up because that's right around the corner 1588 01:29:56,040 --> 01:30:01,200 Speaker 2: February twenty seventh through March first at the Canterbury Park 1589 01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:05,920 Speaker 2: Expo Center. So and also stand for joining us, tackle 1590 01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:09,200 Speaker 2: for joining us, and you for Bob Saint Pierre, for 1591 01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:13,840 Speaker 2: executive producer Brett blakemore, I am Billy Hildebrand, say and 1592 01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:17,160 Speaker 2: see you this afternoon. Until then, I'll leave you with 1593 01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:17,679 Speaker 2: Tata