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Speaker 1: The big news in the NBA.

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Speaker 2: You heard that NBA owners are set to vote next

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Speaker 2: week on whether or not to explore adding Vegas in Seattle,

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Speaker 2: which basically means they want to see if they can

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Speaker 2: get the money they're looking for from some sucker over

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Speaker 2: the offseason to potentially add them in twenty eight to

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Speaker 2: twenty nine.

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Speaker 1: That means that.

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Speaker 2: We could be two and a half years away from

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Speaker 2: seeing NBA basketball in Seattle, and we could be months

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Speaker 2: away from having the league announced that they are returning

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Speaker 2: to Seattle after a damn near twenty year wait. We

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Speaker 2: want some of your talkbacks on the iHeart app. Just

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Speaker 2: hit that little microphone, record a little message and send

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Speaker 2: it off to us and will play them on the

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Speaker 2: air like this one.

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Speaker 3: Hey there, Dave, Patriots Papadocus here. Just heard about the

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Speaker 3: Sonics news and I don't know, man, You know, if

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Speaker 3: they can get me on the alumni wall down here

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Speaker 3: at USC and Jen Cohen, I might be more excited

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Speaker 3: about some Sonics news, but I don't know. I'm about

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Speaker 3: as excited as that as driving with Dave. I didn't

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Speaker 3: like it the segment putting and until the Sonics returns,

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Speaker 3: there's not a lot that Petros has to say, pop

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Speaker 3: adoccus out, He's.

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Speaker 1: Gonna bite their chanitals off and spin them into the Willamma.

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Speaker 2: First of all, that sounds more like Petros's daughter than

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Speaker 2: it does Petros Papadakas.

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Speaker 1: And then second of all, you like the.

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Speaker 2: Debut at driving with Dave on Instagram today, you guys

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Speaker 2: see that. No, I'll go to Softy kJ R on

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Speaker 2: ig and you'll find out. I got yelled at by

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Speaker 2: my wife for recording a video while driving.

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Speaker 1: By the way, that was the first thing I thought.

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Speaker 2: When I say, well, it's got a little place for

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Speaker 2: the phone, it just sits there. I'm not holding the

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Speaker 2: damn phone and I'm recording a video and I'm sending

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Speaker 2: it when I either pull over, come to work, or

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Speaker 2: get to a light.

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Speaker 1: He's reacting to the songs and reacting to sonic news.

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Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes you're in your car, that's when the

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Speaker 2: best thoughts flow, right. You want to take advantage of it,

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Speaker 2: because if I don't document them right away, they're gone.

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Speaker 4: So God, I would imagine that it's driving with Dave

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Speaker 4: brought to you by Bery and Toyota.

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Speaker 1: It's driving with Day For now, it could use a sponsor.

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Speaker 2: But if Furiy and Toyota feels like that that should

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Speaker 2: be theirs automatically because they provide the car, then I understand.

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Speaker 4: I mean, because here's the thing in that video. I

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Speaker 4: imagine you get to see the beautifully interior of your Toyota.

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Speaker 1: You see the sun roof, and my nipples is what

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Speaker 1: you in the car?

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Speaker 2: Yes, And if Bieriy and Toyota wants to be involved

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Speaker 2: with that, that's then. But I would encourage you to

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Speaker 2: check out my Instagram account that's Safti Kjar because I'm

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Speaker 2: a giant douche, and check out Driving with Dave, which

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Speaker 2: debuted today on my IG.

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Speaker 1: All right, what's next?

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Speaker 5: Happy for the people excited about it, but honestly don't

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Speaker 5: care much. I actually would rather than not come back

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Speaker 5: and then just say we're not expanding so I don't

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Speaker 5: have to hear about it every day. I kind of

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Speaker 5: stopped watching towards the end anyways, because basketball is just

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Speaker 5: getting bad to me, and I only watched because they

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Speaker 5: were a Seattle sports team. I probably won't watch now

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Speaker 5: when they come back, because basketball is even worse.

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Speaker 1: Is there an official term for when a volcano starts

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Speaker 1: to leak? Right?

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Speaker 2: And like the smoke comes out the side, the lava

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Speaker 2: squirts out the side of the mountain. I'm sure that's

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Speaker 2: what Dick Vane looks like right now.

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Speaker 1: He's on none of it. You want to take that one, Dick,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, it tall you.

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Speaker 6: He has the right to feel any way he will.

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Speaker 6: But I will say Jackson referenced people coming to two

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Speaker 6: sides coming together. That's the guy I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: Jack He's going to drive him out. The guy I'm.

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Speaker 4: Talking I don't think he's gonna He's like he even

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Speaker 4: says at the very start of that clip, he said

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Speaker 4: he's happy for the people who are excited to be Okay,

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Speaker 4: So that's those.

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Speaker 6: If the Sonics are in the twenty thirty two NBA Finals,

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Speaker 6: I don't want him near the twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Two Live God. What he needs to say that he

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Speaker 1: needs to be. He needs to hes.

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Speaker 7: To stick with he says, he's been gone for twenty years.

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Speaker 1: He needs to stick with his gut.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how about this, Dick. When the Sonics return, you

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Speaker 2: have to prove that you believed otherwise, no tickets for you.

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Speaker 1: See, guys, it.

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Speaker 7: Has nothing to It has nothing to do with whether

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Speaker 7: they're skeptical they're they're coming back. If you're skeptical that

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Speaker 7: they're coming back and then they're excited when they come back.

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Speaker 1: That's fine. That's not what he said, Jackson. He says

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Speaker 1: he's done with the league. You better be fired that's

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Speaker 1: what he said. That's right.

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Speaker 7: Those are the people that I would have an issue

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Speaker 7: with that say they're done with the league.

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Speaker 2: That's right. You better be fired up when they return

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Speaker 2: or nothing for you. I'll just there's a difference between

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Speaker 2: skeptical and done with the product. You are paying homage

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Speaker 2: and you are a true belia like the guy in

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Speaker 2: Temple the Doom or Dick's gonna reach into your home.

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Speaker 1: God bless you man, flaming Organs. You stay there. See

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Speaker 1: it's this divide.

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Speaker 8: We can't have this divide.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. Oh God, this is

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Speaker 1: crazy to stay there? Stay there? You know what?

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Speaker 2: Hey, maybe you know how when you go to arenas

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Speaker 2: and like shopping malls, they have like a like a

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Speaker 2: breastfeeding station, right which you can go inside there and

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Speaker 2: do your thing. Okay, let's let's have a big box

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Speaker 2: for people that if they don't believe on day one,

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Speaker 2: they got to sit in there you think you think.

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Speaker 6: The Sonics scroup is Do you think the Sonics group's gonna.

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Speaker 1: Need that guy to give them deposits on the first.

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Speaker 2: Day or like a like a childcare station right where

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Speaker 2: you can drop off your babies for a game they

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Speaker 2: have a day exactly? Would you be a fan of

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Speaker 2: that instead of a daycare spot or a babysitter. It's

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Speaker 2: a it's hater's corner and you gotta go sit in

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Speaker 2: there and you suck on your thumb for the whole

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Speaker 2: game and then you can maybe go to game two.

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Speaker 1: This is crazy. Come on, Dick, you don't really feel

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Speaker 1: like that. There's no way he does. Oh god, all right, well,

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Speaker 1: so is he.

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Speaker 6: Really just gonna flip Sonics coming all of a sudden.

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Speaker 1: It's a great product, but he's making me laugh. That's

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Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna break. Maybe we'll discuss this tomorrow

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Speaker 2: on the radio show. Maybe we'll continue this conversation. You

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Speaker 2: should do driv you with Dick on the way home

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Speaker 2: and share these thoughts on Instagram. Man, all right, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna break. Who wins the NCAA Tournament. First four starts tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: First round starts on Thursday. We'll have that for you

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Speaker 2: obviously Thursday morning with what TCU Ohio State I think.

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Speaker 2: First up on Thursday, Mike de Corsi joins.

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Speaker 1: Next, it's time for the latest on the madness of March.

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Speaker 9: Here's Hall of Fame college basketball writer for The Sporting

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Speaker 9: News and Fox Sports lead Brecketelligence, Mike Decorsi. Brought to

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Speaker 9: two five five zero five hundred. Now with Mike de Gorsi,

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Speaker 9: here's SAFTI and Dick.

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Speaker 2: You know a couple of things just struck me on

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Speaker 2: this Monday night. Dick, first of all, big thanks to

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Speaker 2: our friends at Northwest Handling Systems always for meeting the

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Speaker 2: gigantic financial demands of our next guest. There was a

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Speaker 2: point over the offseason where there was some pretty heavy

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Speaker 2: negotiation going on. I thought we'd lost him, and then

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Speaker 2: Northwest Handling Systems stepped in, They met the number, and

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Speaker 2: we got him back. From the Sporting News Hall of

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Speaker 2: fame college basketball writer, our friend Mike Decorsi. And then

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Speaker 2: it struck me how many degenerate gamblers are waiting for

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Speaker 2: this very segment to tune in to get Mike's thoughts

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Speaker 2: on who he likes to cut down the nets and

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Speaker 2: play in the final four before they put a penny

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Speaker 2: on any game this year in the NCAA Tournament. I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure. It must be a heavy burden to live

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Speaker 2: with that kind of pressure. Mike Decorsi with us, Now,

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Speaker 2: how are you?

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Speaker 8: Is this phone still working here?

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Speaker 1: No? Can you call us?

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Speaker 2: Well, let's first of all get to the bracket itself. Mike,

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Speaker 2: this is the day we've all been waiting for, obviously,

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Speaker 2: to get your thoughts on the simple question. Did the

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Speaker 2: committee get it right overall or did they get it wrong?

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts on what you saw yesterday?

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Speaker 8: Well, mostly they got it right.

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Speaker 10: I would say that there were a few things that

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Speaker 10: I didn't like. When I'm doing my brackets and I

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Speaker 10: see too many teams congested from one conference in one

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Speaker 8: Together an elegant bracket.

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Speaker 10: And I think that's the one thing that this bracket

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Speaker 10: does lack is a bit of elegance, and it starts

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Speaker 10: with the idea that Saint John's and Yukon are in

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Speaker 10: the same regions.

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Speaker 8: Didn't have to happen.

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Speaker 10: There's no reason for that. I hadn't really given that

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Speaker 8: To deal with. When all this comes down, you got

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Speaker 10: I was on television Sunday night for three hours with

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Speaker 10: and so some little things that might not that might

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Speaker 10: matter to say Saint John's fans that you wouldn't maybe

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Speaker 10: Advanced Media, quoted coach k as complaining about the fact

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Speaker 10: that those two teams, Saint John's and yukonn are in

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Speaker 10: the same East region. It's I look, I do it

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Speaker 10: every twice a week, every week, and then five times more,

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Speaker 10: maybe six in the final week of the season, and

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Speaker 10: I and all those I was able to separate all

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Speaker 10: the Big East teams. I didn't file a single bracket

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Speaker 10: I don't believe in which all three Big East teams

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Speaker 10: were not separated because there were.

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Speaker 8: Only three of them.

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Speaker 10: And I did the same thing with the West Coast

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Speaker 10: Conference and the two of the MAC and the WCC

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Speaker 10: other one a ten in the end that got two,

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Speaker 10: So I they certainly could have done that separated them.

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Speaker 10: And the other thing that I will complain about is Okay,

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Speaker 10: so they say Saint John's didn't play and win enough

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Speaker 10: big games to be a four seed or higher, I'm

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Speaker 10: like totally on board when I'm wrestling with it. That's

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Speaker 10: my biggest problem with them. They got the two Yukons

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Speaker 10: and a Villanova and then what other card they play

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Speaker 10: in and that was a problem, And okay, so I'm

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Speaker 10: cool with that. Even though they won the Big East

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Speaker 10: regular season and tournament, Okay, maybe not a four. The

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Speaker 10: Virginia they didn't win either the ACC regular season or tournament,

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Speaker 10: and they didn't be.

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Speaker 8: Anybody that's really good. And here they are as a

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Speaker 10: I just wonder if that's a formula that can we

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Speaker 1: I've gotten that one wrong over the years.

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Speaker 2: It's like, can somebody here just agree to change their

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Speaker 2: move on. But Mike de Corsi's with us, and you know, Mike,

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Speaker 2: you mentioned the road for Saint John's as a five seed.

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Speaker 1: I got a buddy of mine who's a big Arizona fan.

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Speaker 2: Love the road the Wildcats have, but that's usually when

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I understand because they have fallen short on a

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Speaker 8: The second round. I mean, that's like they couldn't do that.

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Speaker 10: And that's why I got all sixty eight teams in

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Speaker 10: In the bracket game now, but only there were only

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Speaker 10: So it tells you that the committee is getting better

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Speaker 8: I don't buy this stuff about.

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Speaker 10: I mean crosser fingers that they don't get hurt from

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Speaker 6: And Tommy Lloyd's excellent and not a lot of people

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Speaker 10: A they certainly had a final four team, or not

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Speaker 10: this year. I mean, like you look at Aj Debonsa,

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Speaker 10: who's phenomenal, but he's had like three maybe I think

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Speaker 10: he's had seven forty point game thirty point games, excuse me,

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Speaker 10: in like two or three forty point games, Kayleer, Wilson

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Speaker 10: scored twenty every time he played, like almost every game

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Speaker 10: he ever scored thirty and never scored eight. It was

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Speaker 10: like twenty twenty, twenty twenty two, his big game was

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Speaker 10: twenty four. Maybe they maybe score sixteen, but like he

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Speaker 10: was always there, always getting things done, and to lose that,

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Speaker 10: I think that starts to even things out a little bit.

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Speaker 10: I do know that that we are still waiting to

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Speaker 10: see if mid majors, the double digit.

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Speaker 8: Seeds can pull off upsets.

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Speaker 10: I don't believe in one year me and one year

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Speaker 10: added to a narrative means we have an established new

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Speaker 10: fact the one year.

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Speaker 8: Okay, we didn't have very many upsets. Last year. We

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Speaker 8: had Drake and McNeice and not very many others.

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Speaker 10: Okay, a lot of mid major players are coveted by

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Speaker 10: the high majors. They decide that, yes, it's a lot

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Speaker 10: better to make a million dollars or whatever at that

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Speaker 10: level that.

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Speaker 8: It is to not make it at our level.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, I'm gonna go there, And so that takes

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Speaker 10: talent off of the mid majors. But we haven't really

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Speaker 10: seen a long enough time where that's been the case

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Speaker 10: to say we're always going to have few upsets. But

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Speaker 10: another thing that I'll caution is that people think that

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Speaker 10: all of a sudden, because that's the way it was

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Speaker 10: in two thousand and six or twenty fifteen or twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 10: that that's always been.

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Speaker 8: The way it was.

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Speaker 10: But the reality is the better teams are better because

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Speaker 10: guys don't go pro just to get out of college because.

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Speaker 8: They're not making any money. Now, they stay in college

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Speaker 8: to make money.

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Speaker 10: You had all the you look at the early entry

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Speaker 10: lists in twenty eighteen or twenty twenty two, and you

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Speaker 10: had so many guys that either work second round draft

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Speaker 10: possibilities or maybe they even could have been ones if

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Speaker 10: they stayed.

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Speaker 8: Uh. And it's just like, well, okay.

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Speaker 10: If I don't, if I don't make it into the NBA,

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Speaker 10: I'll go to France or whatever, and at least I'll

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Speaker 10: make some money. And now it's like France, I can

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Speaker 10: stay a year and make seven figures.

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Speaker 8: Why would I go to France?

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, Mike, let's do this. Uh, don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna come back after a quick break, and we

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Speaker 2: will get your official picks for the Final four and

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Speaker 2: the national championship. All right, So stay with us for

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Speaker 2: a few more minutes. More of Mike to Corsi. Next

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Speaker 2: on the Runner comedy about the news.

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Speaker 9: You're out Beatie is much madness now back just stupid

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Speaker 9: on your Home for College basketballs Shining Moments, What Sports

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Speaker 2: All right, we're back on a busy Monday night. Mike

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Speaker 2: de Corsi read he joins us. Mike, we got about

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Speaker 2: five or six minutes here from the Sporting News courtesy

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Speaker 2: of our friends at Northwest Handling Systems. You already mentioned

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Speaker 2: one team that you like in the Final four, and

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Speaker 2: I think you mentioned them to win the whole thing,

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Speaker 2: but Arizona. You're a big fan of Arizona. Who joins

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Speaker 2: them in Indianapolis this year?

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Speaker 10: Well, maybe I've got Big twelve on the brain, but

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Speaker 10: when I went through my bracket, I know that if look,

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Speaker 10: I'll tell you right now, if l J.

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Speaker 8: Cason another injury, if l J.

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Speaker 10: Cason hadn't got hurt at at Michigan, I would have

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Speaker 10: written them into the Final four on the first I've

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Speaker 10: scratched that out and then figured out what the road

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Speaker 10: would have been because I thought they were definitely a

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Speaker 10: Final four team when they were whole. But I see

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Speaker 10: now real concern about whether or not they can overcome

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Speaker 10: his absence.

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Speaker 8: He's only a reserve right well.

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Speaker 10: Their one problem as a team is that Elliott Cadou

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Speaker 10: as a point guard is spirat and LJ.

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Speaker 8: Was Okay, if this is not one of Elliott's knights,

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Speaker 8: we'll let LJ take over. And and if if this

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Speaker 8: wasn't one of Elliott's moments, we'll take We'll let LJ

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Speaker 8: take over.

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Speaker 10: And so I just don't see them being able to

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Speaker 10: replace him in the time that they have and with

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Speaker 10: the roster that they have. So I picked Iowa State

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Speaker 10: in an Elite eight game over the Wolverines. On the

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Speaker 10: opposite side of the bracket, I.

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Speaker 8: I really respect Florida, and I look at.

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Speaker 10: Houston and I say, this is one team where Florida's

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Speaker 10: front court is not going to make them quake.

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Speaker 8: They they are so physically and mentally tough.

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Speaker 10: They're gonna have trouble manufacturing enough baskets. Florida is gonna

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Speaker 10: have trouble manufacturing enough baskets.

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Speaker 8: I think it's.

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Speaker 10: Gonna be a brutal game if it happens as I

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Speaker 10: expect it to. And I think the Cougars prevail based

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Speaker 10: on the fact that you come down at the end

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Speaker 10: and Kingston's Lemmings is better at creating a bucket than

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Speaker 10: anybody Florida's got. And then the upper bracket the East

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Speaker 10: with Duke as the number one. See that one's really

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Speaker 10: challenging because I could see five teams coming out of there. Easy, Duke,

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Speaker 10: I told you my concerns about them. I actually went

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Speaker 10: out on the limb and picked Saint John's to defeat them.

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Speaker 10: I may regret that very soon because I could see

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Speaker 10: also Kansas beating Saint John's, no doubt in my mind.

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Speaker 10: But that's the way I went there. Michigan State, Yukon

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Speaker 10: not sure. I went with Michigan State that if I

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Speaker 10: have a bad bracket, that's where it's going to be,

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Speaker 10: because I took more chances, so to speak, on that

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Speaker 10: region than any of the others. I went one two

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Speaker 10: in all the other brackets except that one.

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Speaker 8: So we'll see how that goes.

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Speaker 10: But then Houston playing Arizona for the title, and Arizona,

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Speaker 10: as they did in the Big twelve title game, prevailing

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Speaker 10: because they are a more complete team.

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Speaker 6: Mike, before I let you go, give me a list

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Speaker 6: of the teams that could legitimately win the National championship

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Speaker 6: in your mind without any surprise at all.

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Speaker 1: And how deep is that list for you.

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Speaker 8: At this point?

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Speaker 10: I'd say it's probably no more than seven, and probably

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Speaker 10: only five or six and The obvious ones are Duke, Arizona, Michigan, Florida.

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Speaker 8: And Houston.

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Speaker 10: They have the top twenty offense and top twenty defense.

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Speaker 8: Each of them has a.

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Speaker 10: Prospective first round pick or more in their rotation, so

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Speaker 10: they've got that covered. They've got the designed, they have

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Speaker 10: the rim protection that it's necessary in all of that.

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Speaker 8: Duke. The one thing that Duke doesn't have I mentioned.

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Speaker 10: Before, the point guard. It's one of my key factors.

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Speaker 10: So I worry about them a little bit. But they

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Speaker 10: do so well in the other areas that you have

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Speaker 10: to pick them. If there's another one off the other list,

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Speaker 10: probably I would go with Iowa State. They're a little

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Speaker 10: bit marginal in the talent department. I think Justin Jefferson's fantastic.

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Speaker 10: I don't see how somebody doesn't take him in the

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Speaker 10: first round. But it's not an obvious one.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and then Illinois gotta get tougher on. You gotta

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Speaker 8: get tougher, tougher. Look where they are, they're in the

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Speaker 8: tough neighborhood. Man, you better bring your.

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Speaker 10: You better go to the weight room because you're gonna

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Speaker 10: If you play in the sweet sixteen, you're probably playing Houston.

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Speaker 10: If you play in the Elite eight, you're probably playing Florida.

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Speaker 10: You don't face any tougher customers in this tournament than

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Speaker 10: you would in those two games.

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Speaker 8: And that's Illinois's problem.

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Speaker 10: They have other problems, but the biggest one is can

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Speaker 10: you tough it out? And that's like I said in

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Speaker 10: that neighborhood, man, you better be or you're going home.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: Just to wrap it up for those tuning in right now,

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Speaker 2: Mike Decursi's Sporting News before you go the final four,

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Speaker 2: and who cuts down the nets in India?

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Speaker 10: Man?

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Speaker 1: Give it to us?

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Speaker 10: Yes, Saint John's out of the east, Houston out of

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Speaker 10: the south, Iowa State out of the midwest, and Arizona

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Speaker 10: out of the west. Then it's eric Zona versus Houston

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Speaker 10: for the championship on April sixth in Indianapolis at Lucasoil Stadium,

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Speaker 10: And as happened twenty nine years ago, the Arizona Wildcats

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Speaker 10: cut down the nets.

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Speaker 8: Unfortunately, Luke Olsen.

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Speaker 10: Is no longer with us for Miles Simon to mess

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Speaker 10: up his hair, but his spirit will be there.

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Speaker 2: I love it, Mike here the man great stuff. Appreciate

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Speaker 2: you doing this, Enjoy the tournament and we will talk

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Speaker 2: in a week man, Thanks Mike, Thanks guys. All right,

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Speaker 2: great stuff from Mike de Corsi, Saint John's Houston, Iowa State,

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Speaker 2: Arizona and Tommy Lloyd finally gets a national championship and

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Speaker 2: he wins it before Mark Few.

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Speaker 1: How about that?

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Speaker 2: Tommy Lloyd gets the title and he wins it for Arizona.

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Speaker 2: We'll get out of here tomorrow back at three o'clock.

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Speaker 2: A lot more to get to, including PJ. Carlossmote four

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Speaker 2: his thoughts on not just the NCAA tournament, but also

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Speaker 2: on the potential getting closer by the day return of

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Speaker 2: the Seattle SuperSonics.

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Speaker 1: Baby, that's tomorrow with three. We'll talk then Bye,