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Speaker 4: Sunday afternoon. Listen to the game on KFI. Why does

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Speaker 2: I think we get a Dodger game on someone? What

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Speaker 4: Tim said, tomorrow, all right, it is time for the

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Speaker 4: flip top story of the.

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Speaker 1: Daytime Philip's flip Top story of the day.

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Speaker 2: It's the story of.

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Speaker 4: The well after we had an explosion. Nobody has had

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Speaker 4: their finger on all of the violence and meanness and

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Speaker 2: And lashing out.

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Speaker 4: Nobody has been on top of it, like a lizard

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Speaker 6: I feel like I was, like if it was a

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Speaker 6: That was the base lifting you up like.

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Speaker 2: One of those marginally homosexual guys. And there's nothing wrong

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Speaker 4: There was an explosion of aggression in the basketball world

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Speaker 4: battle much like that. Yesterday. There was no basketball violence

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Speaker 4: absolute fury in East Lansing while our hero now In

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Speaker 4: battled Mick Cronin. Oh, what a nightmare trip to Michigan

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Speaker 4: against Mick Cronin's hero Tom Izzo, and our friend Mick

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Speaker 4: Cronin had a lively night. He has garnered a great

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Speaker 4: I've seen it happen in football Okay, I've never seen

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Speaker 2: Long class sport task.

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Speaker 9: Well, he wanted went to the locker room because it

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Speaker 9: Cooper is way out there, right, you don't you don't

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Speaker 2: Cooper is way out.

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Speaker 9: There for don't you don't want to be dirty?

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Speaker 4: Well, there's something about it that upset Mick. With the

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Speaker 6: It's in back history. He went to school there, as

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Speaker 6: Josh just alluded to the play there, he'd get a chance.

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Speaker 4: But as if that was not a eyebrow razor for

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Speaker 2: Well to the student section of chanting books name.

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Speaker 10: I could give a rats ash about the other team

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Speaker 10: The kudos for the worst question I've ever been asked.

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Speaker 10: Did you like you should take it the preparation? Do

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Speaker 2: Your voice.

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Speaker 10: No, I'm here, you are there, you are they are

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Speaker 10: Come on, dude, come on, yes you were. Everybody's standing

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Speaker 4: Everybody that's got a problem with this is soft. You're

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Speaker 4: all soft and weak and losers. Sure Mick got blown

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Speaker 4: and sure he had a temper tantrum in East Lansing,

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Speaker 4: But as far as the Petrosen money show goes, all

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Speaker 2: Could he have handled this better? Sure? Yeah, but we

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Speaker 4: Lebron called a press conference the other day just to

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Speaker 6: It feels like the walls are caving in on Mick

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Speaker 2: But what about you, Kates?

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Speaker 4: Are you turning your back like like Peter turned his

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Speaker 2: I'm not turning my back on Mick. Never do that.

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Speaker 6: Turn it the side. I'm just kind of are you

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Speaker 6: turning to the side? The only thing turn right now

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Speaker 6: is my head on. My head is kind of cocks

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Speaker 6: in the side, Like, Mick, what are you doing? Why

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Speaker 6: did you have to answer that question like that? I mean,

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Speaker 6: he doesn't take losing very well. You don't just say yeah,

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Speaker 6: this is this is something that's proven to be you know,

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Speaker 4: Mick would have to punch that kid. Like Norman Dale

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Speaker 4: a kid for me to say it's time for me

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Speaker 6: Even then, I think he'd be like, well, you know

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Speaker 2: He asked for it.

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Speaker 4: But overall, Mick Cronin's buyout is huge. He just got

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Speaker 4: an extension from one of the world's most unpopular athletic

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I watched him walk around the building yesterday and he's

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Speaker 4: If that's all there was to be an athletic director

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Speaker 4: walking around shaking hands and high fiving people, Martin Jarmond

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Speaker 4: would be the greatest athletic director that ever walked the earth. Instead,

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Speaker 4: he is in battled. Of course, the Bob chesney Hire

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Speaker 4: might work out pretty well, but right now, Mick.

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Speaker 2: Cronin didn't really have anything to do with it, I know.

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Speaker 4: But he'll take credit for it and walk around and

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Speaker 4: smile and jake hands, won't he?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Mick cronnin.

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Speaker 6: By the way, if he were to be terminated, and

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Speaker 6: I'm not saying he should, he can't be. If he

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Speaker 6: were to be terminated without cause before April first of

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Speaker 6: this year, the buyout would be twenty two and a

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Speaker 6: half million dollars.

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Speaker 4: Dude, UCLA was hemming and hahn about Deshaan Foster six

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Speaker 4: million dollar buyout or whatever that want.

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Speaker 6: Now, wait a second, Let's give Mick one more year. Okay,

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Speaker 6: buyout next March thirty first is eighteen million dollars.

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Speaker 4: If he kicks somebody out next year and he attacks

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Speaker 4: another guy, it says, don't you raise your voice in me,

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Speaker 4: you come back and you talk to me about.

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Speaker 6: Okay, let's give Mick one more year after that. So

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Speaker 6: now two plus seasons from now, it is a thirteen

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Speaker 4: You know, we do a lot of interviews, we do

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Speaker 4: it is Marcus Johnson.

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Speaker 2: What's cracking? Marcus? How are you?

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Speaker 5: I can listen to you wax poetically about me forever. Man,

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Speaker 5: the nurturing atmosphere that the teachers would present and the

440
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Speaker 5: counselors were present except for one person. Doctor Jordie Grew

441
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Speaker 5: wrote a great book called Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome. She

442
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 5: talked about a white counselor she had who told doctor

443
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Speaker 5: Joy that she was not college material she needed to

444
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Speaker 5: go to trade school. Doctor Jory wound up getting two

445
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Speaker 5: or three doctor degrees, one of the foremost sociologists in

446
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 5: the country right now. So you know, I don't sugarcoat it.

447
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 5: There's some great stuff going on. There were some great stuffs,

448
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 5: people spending time in prison, drug dealing, all kinds of

449
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,199
Speaker 5: stuff that they were exposed to. But the resilience that

450
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Speaker 5: they learned at the school is the kind of common thread.

451
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Speaker 5: They were able to bounce back at their lives together

452
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Speaker 5: and then go on after they paid their debt to

453
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Speaker 5: society to become productive citizens. So it's a lot of

454
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Speaker 5: great stories like that involved.

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Speaker 2: Let me run a few by you, just a few

456
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Speaker 2: schools and just the first thing that comes to your

457
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Speaker 2: mind when we talk about you know those days like

458
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Speaker 2: the Lock High, like the lock High Saints.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well Lock Locke was Patrise rushing with Locked to

460
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Speaker 5: guest Piennis, but Locke was the school that Prenchhall and

461
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 5: Locked both were the two schools that were designated to

462
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 5: receive city funds to open up in South Central the

463
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Speaker 5: same year. In nineteen sixty eight, Ozi Osborne Smith Ozzie

464
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Speaker 5: Smith was first team or second team All City twenty

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Speaker 5: five points the game as a basketball player, great shortstop.

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Speaker 5: His back court running mate Pete was Eddie Murray. Those

467
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Speaker 5: are the two guards and locks back court, Ozzy Smith

468
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Speaker 5: and Eddie Murray back at nineteen seventy two.

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Speaker 4: And it's area of Fremont pathfinders. Marcus, what about man?

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Speaker 2: Look?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, Ricky Bell, the great Ricky Bale.

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Speaker 2: St the greatest.

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Speaker 5: Ricky Bell was a basketball players. I used to play

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Speaker 5: against Ricky at Crenschhall. We played about They were not

475
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 5: in our league. They were in the Southern League. We're

476
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 5: in the Western League. But we'd play him every year

477
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 5: one game. And Ricky had a headband on mat and

478
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 5: he was the craziest, most maniacal basketball player that you'd

479
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 5: ever ever imagined. I didn't know he played football at

480
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 5: that time. But then, of course he went on the

481
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 5: greatness at USC. But Freemont has produced some some some

482
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Speaker 5: sell athletes, some great basketball teams. Curtis Row was one

483
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 5: of my idols growing up. Bobby told him, I mean,

484
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Speaker 5: you can just go on down the list of Major

485
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Speaker 5: League Baseball and then and then and turistic football players

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Speaker 5: out of Fremont High School.

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Speaker 4: Well, there's so many that I think about, you know,

488
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Speaker 4: but I mean maybe two more, Marcus, if you just

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Speaker 4: humor us uh, number one, the Jefferson High Democrats.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, jeff So with Jefferson High School. Again, this is

491
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Speaker 5: another kind of, you know, mythical kind of a basketball program.

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Speaker 5: Back that they Larry Hanson was their coach, so Larry

493
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Speaker 5: was also coach. Hanson was also the tennis coach, so

494
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,479
Speaker 5: all his basketball players had to play tennis. And so

495
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 5: they were the quickest, most in shape team that you

496
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Speaker 5: could ever play. Ruth tie Lee averaging over one hundred

497
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 5: points a game. Believe the Thrill McGill went through there,

498
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 5: and and the Sam Slam and Sam Robinson went through there.

499
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 5: Jackie Robinson's older brother, man, So they had some terrific athletes, man,

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Speaker 5: And they were the team. It's funny that crunch out

501
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,959
Speaker 5: beating the semi finals to win their first championship. Bet

502
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Speaker 5: Jordan the finals. When I was a senior when we

503
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Speaker 5: won the city championship, we had to go through Jeff

504
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Speaker 5: in the semis and then go through Jordan in the finals,

505
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Speaker 5: same Sam routine. So they were they were, they were

506
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Speaker 5: one of the top programs in the city. Man. But

507
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Speaker 5: but you know, it was just an outstanding experience. Can

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Speaker 5: I give you, Can I give you just one story? Uh?

509
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Speaker 5: There's two brothers, Sidney and Carrie Justin Okay, both of

510
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 5: them outstanding singers. They had a group called the Five Enlightened.

511
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Speaker 5: They performed in a multi purpose room and I was

512
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 5: screaming like the girls. They sang so good and and

513
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 5: Dan so good. You know they came on stage to

514
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 5: what you see is what you get by the dramatics

515
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Speaker 5: back in the day. But anyway, both brothers played sandlot

516
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 5: football the Bann's Park deep in South Central. Both brothers

517
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 5: never made the varsity football team to Crinshall. One brother,

518
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Speaker 5: Sidney the older, played be football but only played three

519
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 5: downs in three years. They went on to junior college, excelled,

520
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Speaker 5: kept at it, worked on their craft, went on. Sydney

521
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Speaker 5: got a scholarship the Long Beach State. Carried the year

522
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 5: younger got a scholarship the Oregon State. Both brothers played

523
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Speaker 5: in the NFL. Both brothers Sidney Justin for the for

524
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Speaker 5: the for the Rabs, carried for the Seattle Suits Seahawks

525
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 5: for seven years. And the top of the story off

526
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Speaker 5: with the singing that they did right now, they are

527
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 5: part of a a musical review Smokey Robinson and the Miracles,

528
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 5: kind of kind of a kind of a review that

529
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 5: travels the world singing and performing. So, I mean, it's

530
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 5: just a great, great story. But two guys that never

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Speaker 5: made varsity football at Crenshaw wound up playing in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: And they're the first that would tell you that their

533
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Speaker 5: their experience at Banners Park, especially carries like man, I

534
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 5: played against couple of players at Banna's Park and I played

535
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 5: against in the NFL. But the but of hardcore criminals

536
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 5: as always used to being rough and tumble. So just

537
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 5: stories like that, man, it just really fascinating.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's no doubt about it. Marcus.

539
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 4: The older I get, the more I enjoy sitting around

540
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 4: with people and talking about guys that I watch play

541
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 4: football and basketball growing up around and in your case,

542
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 4: it is a legendary story. The Crenshaw Chronicles a book

543
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 4: that documents Marcus and others experiences as a Crenshaw Cougar

544
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 4: and what LA was like in the seventies when every

545
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 4: team had three or four people, every school had three

546
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 4: or four people that were just extremely special, and that

547
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 4: that kind of brings me to the modern times, Marcus.

548
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 4: I mean, maybe a big picture, look, we're talking about

549
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 4: what high school sports used to be And obviously UCLA

550
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 4: under John Wooden and your experience there and in the NBA,

551
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 4: you still are very active and vibrant with the bucks

552
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 4: and working. You've seen all this stuff change into the

553
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 4: nil and transfer portal era. How do we how do

554
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 4: we how do we make and keep guys having success

555
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 4: playing athletics and participating in athletics. Uh, but at the

556
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 4: same time recapture some of that glory that we're talking

557
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 4: about from the back in the day.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, man, you know that that's that's a tough one

559
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 5: because you know, especially with the money that's involved. Now,

560
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not beholding to these to these guys

561
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 5: for making their money. I think something probably needs to

562
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,239
Speaker 5: be structured with the transfer portal where you don't have

563
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 5: guys have the ability to transfer every single year and

564
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 5: play for four or five schools through the course of

565
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 5: their college careers. That seems a bit extreme. I mean,

566
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Speaker 5: I'm not I'm all for for mobility, but that seems

567
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 5: a bit extreme. Uh. But the money, you know, somebody's

568
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 5: got to make the money. And if the players weren't

569
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 5: making it, then the schools would be would be making

570
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 5: the money. But but you know, I have mixed emotions

571
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 5: about that, UH people, because you know, some of these

572
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 5: kids are getting what two three, what it cale to

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Speaker 5: Caleb get a usc at five six million, four or

574
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 5: five million. I mean, the money is just nuts, man,

575
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,959
Speaker 5: in terms of what what college athletes can make these days.

576
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 5: And it puts a lot of pressure on the coaches

577
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 5: to uh to to to be disciplinarians, but only to

578
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 5: a point, because you've got to appease these these players

579
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 5: to a certain degree because you don't want to lose them,

580
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Speaker 5: especially when you got the pressure to win. And and

581
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Speaker 5: so you Sela's going through with McK cronell. We saw

582
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 5: the incident the other night. I mean, my pastor texted

583
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 5: me and told me that he was off missed Mick

584
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Speaker 5: Cronan that he talked about great coaches and leaders create

585
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 5: positive coaches, and he just didn't feel like that's what's

586
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 5: going on at UCLA right now. You know, I'm not

587
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 5: really willing to tell Mick completely under the bust, but

588
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 5: I wasn't happy with what I saw. It just looked

589
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 5: like it was more about him than about the young men.

590
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 5: But you know, in a similar situation, who knows, I

591
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 5: may I may do something something just as extreme as

592
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Speaker 5: leading the guy out of the out of the arena

593
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 5: and kicking him out of the game like that. But

594
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 5: but it's stuff, man, you know it's it's good you

595
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 5: look Tony Bennett from from Virginia. He retired rather than

596
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 5: be a part of part of the partile is nonsense.

597
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 5: He could kind of see the handwriting on the wall.

598
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 5: The canary and the coal mine died, and he saw

599
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 5: the signs and got out. So a lot of the

600
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,959
Speaker 5: coaches were getting out with, especially coaches with that kind

601
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 5: of old school mentality.

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Speaker 4: I lost my temper once in East Lansing in twenty

603
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Speaker 4: twenty four. I know what it's like. Marcus, we love

604
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 4: you man, had such a cool conversation. We will play

605
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 4: you out with some music maybe remind you of that era.

606
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 4: And the Krenshaw Chronicles everybody a great book with the

607
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 4: great Marcus Johnson. This is Pete Wingfield eighteen with a

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Speaker 4: bullet Marcus, we love you man, and have a great

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Speaker 4: second half of the season.

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Speaker 5: All right, let me get it too, man. Thank you

611
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 5: so much, man, thank you, appreciation you.

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Speaker 2: The Crenshaw Chronicles.

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Speaker 4: What does everybody know about the liquor bank on the

614
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Speaker 4: shop or arts wings and things. Not much did George

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00:30:54,280 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 4: Siddana know about arts, wings and things? No, dorky, We're

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Speaker 4: gonna have mid.

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Speaker 2: Been a lot of Dodger talk.

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Speaker 4: He's also got Dalton rushing. So it's time to check

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Speaker 4: David Vasse spectrum of Sports Net LA MLB Network, but

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Speaker 2: Hello, Dave, how are you have.

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Speaker 8: A little time in between camp ending and Dodger Talk tonight?

636
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Speaker 8: So I came to check out one of the local

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Speaker 8: baseball card shops out here in the Desert.

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Speaker 2: Diser there, what do you mean we're terrible?

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Speaker 6: The twenty six tops are out Patrick, Yeah, okay, somebody

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00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 6: bought an eighteen ye dollar cheap Pikachu Browny James is

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Speaker 6: at Burbank Sports Cards on Saturday, and you're perusing a

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Speaker 6: sports shop in Glendale, Arizona.

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Speaker 8: Well, here's the thing. The reason why I brought this

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Speaker 8: up is I'm running into more and more players that

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Speaker 8: are collecting cards. It's more than I ever ever have

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Speaker 8: experienced before, but it's become a craze as infiltrated even

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Speaker 8: Major league basics.

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Speaker 2: Do I just run around and making each other sign

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Speaker 2: stuff for each other?

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Speaker 8: Well, a few of the guys have dropped some of

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Speaker 8: the cards in Otani and Sasaki's locker for your signatures. Yes,

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Speaker 8: some of the young guys. So if you remember last year,

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Speaker 8: I did an Instagram live with Jack Dryer because he

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Speaker 8: was the first one that had baseball card fever. But

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Speaker 8: now I'm running into more and more guys that have

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Speaker 8: the same type of fever, including a guy like Keik Hernandez,

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Speaker 8: who is not impressed easily. This guy's running around at

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Speaker 8: baseball card shows buying a Pokemon ripping packs. So you know,

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Speaker 8: that's the reason why I brought it up. It's not

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Speaker 8: just my ten year old son or forty year old

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Speaker 8: Tim Kates. It's even major league players now, Dave, are.

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Speaker 6: They really collecting? Are they just trying to find themselves?

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Speaker 6: What is the ultimate purpose behind these guys getting back.

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Speaker 2: Into find themselves. They're not.

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Speaker 8: They're not trying to find their own baseball cards. They're

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Speaker 8: in it for, you know, the grand prize of ripping

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Speaker 8: baseball packs, and they're going for They're going for the gold.

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Speaker 2: Standard of cards.

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Speaker 4: David Vasse is our guest. He's got a trio of

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Speaker 4: Dodgers tonight on Dodger Talk, and he won't be on

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Speaker 4: tomorrow or Friday because there's Clippers, but we'll have him

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Speaker 4: out on our show to discuss what is going on

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Speaker 4: with Dodger spring training. I just mean there's no Dodger

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Speaker 4: Talk tomorrow or Friday. There's a schedule talk on the

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Speaker 4: Petros and Money Show on AMPI seventy LA Sports. Okay, Dave,

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Speaker 4: what are you looking at to start out camp as

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Speaker 4: far as who's where and what pitcher is going to

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Speaker 4: be ready to rock and roll. And when we're going

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Speaker 4: to see any of these.

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Speaker 8: Guys, Yeah, well number one, Emmit Shean is a little six,

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Speaker 8: so I'm trying to stay away from him. He's been

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Speaker 8: set back a few days. But as far as the

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Speaker 8: other guys go, it looks like Yamamoto is going to

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Speaker 8: start Saturday, the Cactus League opener against the Angels, and Otani,

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Speaker 8: Dave Roberts said, is going to DH and lead off

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Speaker 8: in his former spring training facility. So that's something to

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Speaker 8: look forward to as we get closer to the first

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Speaker 8: spring training game on Saturday. And don't be alarmed when

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Speaker 8: Freddie Freeman and Max Munsey and Mookie Bets are not

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Speaker 8: in the starting lineup. Those guys are in their mid thirties,

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Speaker 8: and Dave Roberts said he's gonna, you know, ease them

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Speaker 8: into spring training games.

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Speaker 6: Speaking of Mookie Bets, David did Dave Roberts get a

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Speaker 6: little defensive for Mooki when asked about his offense a

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Speaker 6: year ago.

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Speaker 8: Well, I think he's resisting what everybody is saying Tim

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Speaker 8: that that is he believes, he believes that's a aberration,

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Speaker 8: and he expects Mookie Bets to bounce back. With a

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Speaker 8: big year, and Mookie's even said that it's his first

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Speaker 8: normal training with the Dodgers, going back to when he

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Speaker 8: first joined him in twenty twenty that was cut short

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Speaker 8: by the pandemic. So you know, he has a position

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Speaker 8: now that he was learning last year, and it feels

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Speaker 8: like the focus is more on the offense because he's

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Speaker 8: going to be needed hitting behind Otani and Tucker and

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Speaker 8: in front of Freddie Freeman.

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Speaker 2: Are you going to try to act like the World

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Speaker 2: Baseball Classic isn't happening.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I mean it'll be on the periphery, especially

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Speaker 8: on the days that Yamamoto pitches. I think everybody's going

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Speaker 8: to hold their collective breath every time he throws a

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Speaker 8: pitch in the World Baseball Classic.

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Speaker 2: David Vasse, our guest, it happened. It was a little

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Speaker 2: row when.

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Speaker 4: We talked to you yesterday and you talked to Muncie

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Speaker 4: more about pushups than a dude pushing up on his

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Speaker 4: sister in law. But how much sister in law talk

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Speaker 4: was there today and around the camps, Dave, that you've.

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Speaker 8: Experienced, well, today there wasn't a lot of players eager

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Speaker 8: to speak to the media. It just seems like the

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Speaker 8: players Union as a whole is trying to regroup after

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Speaker 8: being rocked by the fact their union head, or at

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Speaker 8: least one of them, Tony Clark has a lot of

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Speaker 8: personal issues going on, and what I gathered Petroses, everybody

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Speaker 8: knew about his legal troubles, but nobody knew about his

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Speaker 8: personal problems. That came to light yesterday that he was

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Speaker 8: having an affair with his sister in law.

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Speaker 2: Of all people heard, she looked.

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Speaker 4: According to Bob Nightingale, the sister in law looked almost exactly.

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Speaker 2: Like the wife. Twinns well, no, but he said very similar. Look.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, Bob Nigett would know that information. I don't,

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Speaker 8: and I don't know what you could take away from that.

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Speaker 4: We were just really surprised, you know. At the end

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Speaker 4: of the interview, He's like, yeah, you know, she looked

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Speaker 4: just like the.

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Speaker 2: Sister who.

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Speaker 8: Exactly. I mean, I will have spread that news around

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Speaker 8: the clubhouse tomorrow. I don't know if that'll make things

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Speaker 8: any better for the guys that are part of the

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Speaker 8: pH Just really that timing, considering that the collective bargaining

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Speaker 8: agreement is coming up and everybody's talking about it, and

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Speaker 8: Rob Manfred said they're going to start discussing things with

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Speaker 8: the union. The season begins, and then you have something

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Speaker 8: scandalous like this happening. Just makes it seem like the players' Union,

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Speaker 8: it doesn't really have their things in order right now,

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Speaker 8: all right, Dave.

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Speaker 6: Saturday is rip day for tops, a manufactured day across

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Speaker 6: the country where players, former players, celebrities are going to

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Speaker 6: different cards. I know here locally we'reming sports cards. Has

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Speaker 6: got Brownie James coming out, Nick Young is coming out

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Speaker 6: Saturday afternoon. Do you know if any of the Dodger

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Speaker 6: players over in Arizona are maybe going to go out

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Speaker 6: to a local shop there or is there any buzz

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Speaker 6: about that?

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Speaker 8: Hey, Jim, I was in the shop just now. I

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Speaker 8: stepped out to do this interview.

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Speaker 5: I'm at the.

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Speaker 8: Shop where last year Mike Trout was at this baseball

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Speaker 8: card shop on this same day and it went viral

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Speaker 8: that he was buying every kid in the card shop

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Speaker 8: baseball cards, DNA sports cards. If you're in Arizona, free plug.

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Speaker 8: Although that is the mad sports card shop in Arizona,

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Speaker 8: and you never know who you can be there, especially

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Speaker 8: on Saturday, which is I guess this. I had no

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Speaker 8: idea until this top just told me like, hey, is

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Speaker 8: your kid going to be around you know Mike trubskt

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Speaker 8: or you know this happened last year. So I guess

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Speaker 8: Saturday is a big day in the sports cards hobby calendar.

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Speaker 2: All right, Dave, Well, thank you very much.

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Speaker 8: You'd be going to see Menchells? Will you be taking

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Speaker 8: your kids sing Brownie James at Burbank Sportsman?

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Speaker 2: I will not.

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Speaker 4: And isn't it enough that you know people are spending

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Speaker 4: all their money a Camelback Ranch on hats and hot

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Speaker 4: dogs and shirts. You gotta go over to DNA sports

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Speaker 4: Cards and blow more your cash?

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Speaker 8: Come on, No, I think I feel like you have

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Speaker 8: to be judicious in what you spend your extra income on.

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Speaker 8: And you know I told my son, hey, you buy

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Speaker 8: a shirt here, there's no baseball cards later.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you got you gotta pick.

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Speaker 8: You gotta make the choice.

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Speaker 4: Well, thank you Dave for spending a little time with us.

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Speaker 4: We look forward to Freeland and call and rushing tonight

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Speaker 4: on Dodger Talk, and we will talk to you tomorrow

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Speaker 4: with the latest from Camelback Ranch with the best reporter

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Speaker 4: out there, David ves.

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Speaker 8: Hey, all right, Dave, thank you guys here he.

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Speaker 4: Goes, and we'll be right back with another hour of

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Speaker 4: great sports talk, The Fun Fact and the Quick Hits

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Speaker 4: and more. We just won't be defeated. Wednesday, Dodger Talk

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Speaker 4: at seven with that very ball washer Davese