1 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to the TenneT with Gerald, Mark 2 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: Rose in here, Devin with us as well. 3 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: Rosie. Was it yesterday? 4 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: We had the Koc press conference where he was very 5 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: not want, very zimmer like, not wanting to talk about 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: the quarterback situation. I want to answer it. Do you 7 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: feel like we got a little bit of clarity yesterday 8 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: just because JJ McCarthy still listed as limited, I limited 9 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: more than clarity, I think. I think it's as clear 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: as day that Wentz is going to start. Yeah, I mean, 11 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: the conversation ends when they say J. J. McCarthy's not 12 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. When JJ McCarthy says, I'm the one 13 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: hundred percent. So the dynamics of whatever Koc had in 14 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: his mind and wanted to have him ready by this game, 15 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: it's a moot point. I mean, because whether he was 16 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: ready using air quotes or not to get out there, 17 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: which of course he was at the beginning of the season, 18 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: it's all eliminated. You're not gonna put your guy out 19 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: there when he's not one hundred percent in a high 20 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: ankle spring, and that's that's indeed, what he had is 21 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: I don't think you'll play this week. I don't think 22 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: I'll play against the Chargers in a short week. Maybe 23 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: he'll come back against the Lions and Detroit. We'll see 24 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: how it all flushes out, as they say, But when 25 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: you don't have a healthy guy that's already been dealing 26 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: with injuries, I mean from a year ago, hasn't had 27 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: a lot. 28 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: Of practice time. That's the other thing. 29 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 3: It's not like, well, we're just gonna put him out there, 30 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 3: because no he I mean, for me, from earlier in 31 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 3: the week to where we are today, it's day and night. 32 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: I just. 33 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 3: Shocked to be an understatement if JJ McCarthy runs out there, 34 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 3: unless he, you know, makes a miraculous recovery. I guess 35 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 3: we'll find out all maybe snippets about what happened to 36 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 3: practice today on a Thursday. But he's not going full go, 37 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 3: you know. I know he's been practicing, which is a 38 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 3: good sign, and he's getting better, which is a good sign. 39 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 3: But I think that you know, the whole discussion, and 40 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 3: Wentz has been playing, you know, obviously he finished for 41 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 3: the Flurry in his last game, and the Vikings have 42 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: had a break, the Eagles had ten days off. I 43 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 3: think the bigger news, honestly, and we concentrate so much 44 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 3: on the quarterback position, especially with what's been going on here, 45 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 3: but the fact that Donovan Jackson's coming back, I mean, 46 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 3: this guy's been a stud what a great draft pick 47 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 3: on that Ohio State rich Lineman class hopefully getting I 48 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 3: asked you during the break, is Brian O'Neill coming back? 49 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 3: I mean, which would be a little bit of a 50 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 3: surprise considering the what looked like a really serious d injury. 51 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 3: Getting a full game potentially out of Christian Darsaw. I mean, 52 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 3: he's been on that so called pitch count and now 53 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 3: it sounded like choc was also saying, and Darrisaw said 54 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 3: that I'm ready to rock and roll basically the whole game, 55 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 3: and then add you know, throwing. Obviously, the big addition 56 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: of Blake Cashman on defense and the possibility of Van 57 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 3: Ginko returning, those collectively are almost I think bigger stories. 58 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 3: It's not as sexy as who's going to play quarterback? Well, 59 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: you can almost put that to bed right now and 60 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 3: saying is a football team. The Vikings will be appreciably 61 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 3: better this week than they were in their European games. 62 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: With the addition of those guys Jackson had the Risser surgery, 63 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: he was out and he's been playing awfully well. And 64 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 3: then they have some depth now, some guys that can 65 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 3: play the center. 66 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: Thing. 67 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 3: It's you don't even hear his name anymore. I mean, 68 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 3: I can only imagine Ryan Kelly and the number of 69 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 3: concussions he's had. It's it's almost I'm not you know, 70 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: you could throw in the term career threatening and it's 71 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 3: you know, I hope it's not that's the case. 72 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: But when you see these parts to think about it, yeah, 73 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 2: he's I. 74 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 3: Mean from a family standpoint, in his own personal health, 75 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 3: and we don't know what's going on behind the scenes. 76 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: But I mean they, you know, like anybody any other team, 77 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 3: you have to just kind of fix that. But I 78 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 3: think the offensive line in particular, when they I think 79 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 3: they have to run the ball, you know, you know, 80 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: consistently to at least get get Wentz off the you know, 81 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 3: second and nine and the third and eights, to have 82 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 3: you know, Mason and you know, since uh Jones isn't 83 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 3: back for another week, you know, you got you got 84 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 3: to put them in a position where you're you're in control, 85 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 3: You're it's a manageable down in distance for the Vikings 86 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 3: and because that's where the Eagles can really get you. 87 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 3: Like a lot of teams, you're third and nine all 88 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 3: the time, you're not gonna win football game. 89 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: Obviously, there are still guys that aren't on the injury report, 90 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: right because Aaron Jones is not on the report, as 91 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: you just mentioned Ryan Kelly. But of the guys that were, 92 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: there were no d nps yesterday. And then that's for 93 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: a Wednesday practice, right. Sometimes you get the more Wednesday 94 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: and they improve as you go along. But as you mentioned, 95 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: Donovan Jackson limited with a wrist injury, Brian O'Neil limited 96 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: with a knee injury. 97 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 4: J J. 98 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: McCarthy limited with the ankle injury, Andrew van Ginkel limited 99 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: with the neck injury. 100 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 2: Brian Cashman full go. That's the other part of this. 101 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: We focus on the offense, but defensively for a team 102 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: that has struggle, guns to run and you're gonna be 103 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: playing Did I say, Blake Cashman? 104 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: What did I say? What did you said? Brian? 105 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sorry it's Blake. Yeah think wait night. Brian 106 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: Cashman used to be the GM for the New York Yankees. 107 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: The Yankees cash and cash Out apologize for saying that 108 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: right name question myself. But for a team that has 109 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: struggled against the run this season, and I'm assuming Philadelphia's 110 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: got despite the fact that they've struggled to sake on Barkley, 111 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: I still think they're going to want to be a 112 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: run first offense. With Jalen hurtson to get Cashman back 113 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: and potentially Van Ginkel back, I think could be huge 114 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: on that side of the ball as well. 115 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, absolutely, I mean it's it's odd when you 116 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 3: start looking at these stats. You know, the six games 117 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 3: into this thing, the Eagles are still four to two. 118 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 3: They ranked third worse than the NFL in total yards. 119 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 3: That's shocking. Barkley, who ran for over two thousand yards 120 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 3: last year in twenty twenty four, hasn't come yeah that 121 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 3: was last year, hasn't come close to a one hundred 122 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 3: yard game yet. Think about that. How is that possible? 123 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 3: The guy like that Hurts is not. You know, they 124 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 3: got the AJ Brown drama and both those guys and 125 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 3: DeVante DeVante Smith both had one thousand yard receivers. They've 126 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 3: also been upset about the things going on. Their Pro 127 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 3: Bowl right tackle Lane Johnson ripped the predictability of their 128 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 3: off offense. So they've been you know, they've had some 129 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: time and they're fiery. Coach Nick Sirianni, I'm sure, has 130 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 3: been pushing all the right buttons and telling them, you 131 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 3: know that, you listen, we've got to get this corrected. 132 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 3: We've got to get it corrected now. So it's it's 133 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 3: gonna be an interesting matchup of of what perceived to 134 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 3: be strength against strength, the Tush push versus the Vikings 135 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 3: interior defense. Hopefully won't come to that, but you know, 136 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 3: I think you know, listen, we all know what the 137 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 3: Vikings love to do. They still love to throw the football, 138 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 3: and that's why I think on those you know, to 139 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 3: get themselves in a situation they're second and fourth and 140 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 3: then you become less predictable, and those are the times 141 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 3: where you know what what JJ can do, justin Jefferson 142 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 3: can do, and what Addison can do, and what you 143 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 3: know Wentz has been able to do as he did 144 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 3: on that last drive. And now you got an offensive 145 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 3: line that hopefully will give him the time to to 146 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 3: throw those passes that you know, to keep the change 147 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: moving and keep the Eagles off the field. 148 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: Right, we went a little along with spread swings. We're 149 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: going to break a break now. Why that happens? Well, 150 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: when people aren't listening to the segment, it takes a 151 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,679 Speaker 1: lot longer to get through it. Mark Rosen will continue 152 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: with Rosen next right here on the tenifit Sgerald, Devin, 153 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: you should have a keyword over there. 154 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 2: Correct, Yes, I do. With a fan. 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I need 163 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: you to give me a number. 164 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 2: Oh boy, you're. 165 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: Between zero and twenty four or seventy and ninety nine, 166 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: somewhere in one of those two ranges five five, and 167 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: then I'd like to pick a sport football, hockey, baseball, 168 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: or basketball, baseball, baseball? 169 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: All right, Mark Rosen, Oh no, what are you doing 170 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: to me? 171 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 4: It's time now for random reminiscing with Rose. 172 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: Today thanks to Devin and we are going to reminisce 173 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: about the two thousand and five Minnesota Twins. 174 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: Two thousand and five. 175 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: That year they finished eighty three and seventy nine, third 176 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: in the American leagues. Pretty typical. General manager was Terry Ryan. 177 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: I'm looking at stats here, So catcher was Joe Mauer. 178 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: He had two ninety four for nine home runs just. 179 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: Two thousand five. That was a non descriptive year for 180 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: the Twins. Got most of them. 181 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: They had a couple of early years that was yeah, 182 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: because they had the run right in two and three, 183 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: two thousand and four they made the playoffs. 184 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 2: Then and then two thousand and six was. 185 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: One of the best Minnesota Twins teams I've seen, and 186 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: that was when Lariano and Santana were. 187 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 2: Just every day you had like two aces. It's fun. 188 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: But on the two thousand and five team, you had 189 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: a Nick Punto as your second baseman who apparently might 190 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: be in the mix for the Twins. 191 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 2: Manager was Jason Bartlett at shortstop. 192 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: Michael Kadier was your third baseman, Shannon Stewart, Tory Hunter, 193 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: Jacques Jones. Where you're in the outfield, Matt Lee, Croy 194 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: and d h You have lou Ford, Juan Castro coming 195 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: off the bench, Michael Redman, Luis revas So, your starters, Radkey, Santana, 196 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: Kyle Loch, Joe Mays. 197 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: And Carlos Silva. 198 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: Your bullpen Macarrere, j c Ramiro, Jan Rancone, Joe Nathan, 199 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: Jesse Crane, Terry mulholland your thoughts on the two thousand 200 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: and five Minnesota Twins. 201 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 3: I mean, they had some good You just rattled off 202 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 3: a bunch of real the good baseball players. So just 203 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 3: they weren't a great baseball team that year. As you mentioned, 204 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 3: most of those guys were part of a team teams 205 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 3: that were much more competitive before that. And of course, 206 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 3: when I covered the when the Twins played in New 207 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 3: York the old Yankee Stadium, when Santana won, I think 208 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 3: he won that first game, was pitching so well, and 209 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 3: all the New York writers, I remember, all they cared 210 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 3: about asking Santana was, well, when you know, basically, when 211 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 3: you come in to New York, why are you wasting 212 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 3: your career in Minnesota? And they weren't even trying to 213 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 3: hide it, and Santana handled it diplomatically, but deep down 214 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 3: you kind of knew he wasn't going to be staying 215 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 3: in Minnesota for the rest of his career. And of 216 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 3: course he end up going to the Mets, but you know, 217 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 3: it was painfully obvious that, you know, the flyover existence 218 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 3: that a lot of Minnesota sports teams have when you 219 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 3: when you go to New York, you really feel it 220 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 3: when you're in when you're in a position of being 221 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 3: a superstar kind of pitcher, as Santana was during that time, 222 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 3: and all the are just going, Okay, you know, I 223 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 3: don't have a little fun right now kicking it around, 224 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 3: but you're coming to New York and whether it would 225 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 3: be the Yankees of the Mets, and that's. 226 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 2: What I recall. 227 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 3: I don't remember a lot about that particular year, sorry 228 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 3: to disappoint you. I mean, you just kind of rattled 229 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 3: it off of eighty. 230 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: Three of all the years in two thousands, it was 231 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: kind of one of the more forgettable season. 232 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 2: It was the other ones were and they were fun 233 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: there by the way. 234 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: Do you remember, though, the team that won the World 235 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: Series that year you were a two thousand and five, 236 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: your Chicago White Sox. They swept the Houston Astros. Yeah, 237 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: in the World Series. 238 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 3: I remember that, you know, the one I remember the 239 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 3: most about the White Sox, you know, with Twins and 240 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 3: the White Sox of course, with the Piranhas and Ozzie 241 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 3: Gian And the one game I remember more than any 242 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 3: was at Game one sixty three when Jim Tolmy was 243 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 3: playing for the White Sox and you hit a home 244 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 3: run I think the ninth inning or tenth ninth inning 245 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 3: and beat the Twins and won nothing. It was a 246 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 3: tremendous baseball game, but you know, catapulted the the Socks 247 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 3: into the playoffs and kicked the Twins out of there. 248 00:11:59,600 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 4: That was. 249 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 3: It was a dramatic game, much the way that the 250 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 3: Twins had when they beat the Tigers here in that 251 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 3: extra game when Carlos Gomez scored the game winning run. 252 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 3: But yeah, again, those earlier years were I mean see 253 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 3: and this sort of fast forward to today's team and 254 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 3: what you're looking at. But those teams, no, they didn't 255 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 3: win a World Series, but they were they were very competitive. 256 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 3: They want a bunch of divisional titles. But you just 257 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 3: rattle off those names. They had big personalities on that team. 258 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 3: They just did up and down the lineup I mean 259 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 3: with Tori and aj Prazinski and and and uh, you 260 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 3: know obviously you know. 261 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 2: Kadaire. I mean, all those guys were entertaining. They were 262 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 2: fun to watch. 263 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 3: And you look at today's team and you know, Royce 264 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 3: Lewis has a big personality, but he hasn't unfortunately being 265 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 3: able to back it up and stay on the field. 266 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 3: Buxton is more of a quiet, you know, kind of 267 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 3: guy that he gets, you know, and he does the 268 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 3: train the Locomotive tribute to his dad and it's a dinger. 269 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 2: That's about it. That's otherwise they lost the rand and 270 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 2: his entrance him a huge. 271 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 3: Moment, huge entertainment value beyond being a really a real talent. 272 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 3: But that's the and that's what's missing, and that you know, 273 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 3: it's just I don't know how they're going to ever 274 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 3: get that back. 275 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: But uh, you know, Punto to come back and be 276 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: the man and bring back the Piranhas. 277 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 3: But that was fun. I mean, people enjoyed. They didn't 278 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 3: have to be the Yankees, they didn't have to be 279 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 3: you know, the Red Sox at that time, but they were. 280 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 3: They were, you know, they were a good baseball team 281 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 3: and they enjoyed it. And the fans responded to him, 282 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 3: and that's something that's so far from where we are 283 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 3: at right now. 284 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: That's, by the way, Devin was three during the season. 285 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: He was three years old. Well, he's just he has 286 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 1: no idea the players. Who's Joe Mauer, He says, he 287 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: didn't really say that. 288 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 3: I think he was good, right, Well, I mean you 289 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 3: don't have to you can be a certain age. You 290 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 3: can still. I'm sure he's a sports fan. He's right, Devin. 291 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I knew. 292 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: Who Harmon Killibrew was, even though I didn't watch Harmon 293 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: kilber An Other interesting other interesting notes of the two 294 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: thousand and five Major League Baseball season. It was notable 295 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 1: for the league's new steroid policy in the wake of 296 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: the Bualco scandal the ball, which enforced harsher penalties than 297 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: ever before for steroid use in Major League Baseball. Several players, 298 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: including veteran Rafael Palmero, was suspended under the new policy. 299 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: Other interesting things. That was the first year that we 300 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: had a baseball team in Washington, d c. Since the 301 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: Senators played their nineteen seventy one So that's when the. 302 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 2: Nationals moved there from Montreal. 303 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: And the most important thing in two thousand and five 304 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: is that the Anaheim Angels changed their name to the 305 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. 306 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 2: That's big. 307 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: I like it better than of the California Angels. They 308 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: had the whole state behind him. They did. 309 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 3: They were called the California y Rod Carup played for 310 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 3: him than during that time they were the California Angels. Yeah, 311 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 3: a lot has changed, and it's still amazing when you know, 312 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 3: we watched the Dodgers, but the billions of dollars that 313 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 3: they're worth and how much money they spent on their payroll, 314 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 3: to me, it's still a shocking really and a testament 315 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 3: I guess the longevity of the brand. They're playing in 316 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 3: the same ballpark that they did when they moved from Brooklyn. 317 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 3: I mean, Chavez Ravine has been there forever, and it's 318 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 3: just a it's it's an awful place to get out of. 319 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 3: I was watching, you know, the other game, and the 320 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 3: Dodgers think were blowing them out the other night, right 321 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 3: when they and people leave there like in the fifth 322 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 3: or sixth inning just to try to beat the traffic. 323 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 3: I mean, it's just it's and for good reason, because 324 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 3: if you get stuck in that and that those lanes 325 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 3: and getting out of that ballpark. I hope you, as 326 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 3: they say, pack a lunch because or don't have to, 327 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 3: you know, go to the bathroom because you're not going 328 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 3: to make it. It's just an hour and a half, 329 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 3: two hours to get out of there. 330 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: So I know we didn't land down the two thousand 331 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: and six Minnesota Twins. We landed on the two thousand 332 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: and five Minnesota Twins. 333 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 2: I do quickly. 334 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: I feel like the two thousand and six Twins, right, 335 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: I had been working with Common at that point, I'd 336 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: heard Common do the pole ads, penny pinching bit, blah 337 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. Two thousand and six was the 338 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: first season as a fan that I thought, Man, these 339 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: guys are never going to spend money, do something at 340 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: the trade deadline. Because that was a team. Like I said, 341 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: there was a stretch there in that summer right where 342 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: Johann Santana and Francisco Ariano you had, you had a 343 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: Radke as your third pitcher. I mean, that's how that's 344 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: how good your starting vitation. Those two were unbeatable. They 345 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: went on a stretch where they won thirty four or 346 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: forty two games and they finished the season with ninety 347 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: six and sixty six. 348 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they did basically. 349 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: Nothing at the MLB Terry trade down, Like, if you're 350 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: not going to go all in with this team when 351 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: you had you know, and you had them ours and 352 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: the more Nose and they were hitting in Kadai or 353 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: that was the first moment where like there is something 354 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: to this common talking about the Polads aren't just they're 355 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: never going to spend money or make a big acquisition 356 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: at the trade deadline. 357 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that it was too bad in my opinion, 358 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 3: hasn't changed in the Twins won ninety six games. That 359 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 3: you're in you're thinking, well, this is the one of 360 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 3: the few times they don't have to play the Yankees 361 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 3: right away. The Yankees were number one seed, but they 362 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 3: were I'm just looking it up right now. They were 363 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 3: hosting Detroit. Detroit was the wild card and the Twins 364 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 3: were hosting the Oakland A's. Yeah, and the Twins got 365 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 3: great starts from Santana. And remember the course, good old 366 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 3: boof bonser Uh. They lost game one. I'm looking it up. 367 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: I score three the iniatory Hunter air in the center field. 368 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 1: Remember that ball game defense? I remember that's the only 369 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: thing I remember about that that just killed them. They 370 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: never they never led in any game in the series. 371 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 2: Santana won the cy Young. 372 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 4: That was. 373 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 3: That was shocking because of that. Well, they're going to 374 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 3: at least punch their ticket to play the Yankees. Uh 375 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 3: getting past Oakland. Oh, what a sy of relief. They 376 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 3: don't have to play the Yankees the first round. 377 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 2: That was. 378 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: That was a really good baseball team that won ninety 379 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: Santana won the si Young that year. Yeah, morneaut won 380 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: the MVP. 381 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 2: Amazing. 382 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: Maher became the first American league catcher to win the 383 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball Batting Ground And we like basically stood 384 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: patted the trade of the line and like, well since 385 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: to this day, like I'm that was one of the 386 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: best Twins team since nineteen ninety one. 387 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 2: That was the best Twins team I've seen. Yeah, that's 388 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 2: when I mean we didn't go all in. No, they 389 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: did not. 390 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 3: I mean I'm looking at their bench that they had, 391 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 3: you know, with you know, the micro Redmonds of the 392 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 3: world and Kobal and Shannon Stewart. That was a big 393 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 3: trade they made. I mean for them, it was a 394 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 3: big trade in the year. Yeah, years before then, but yeah. 395 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: When they picked him up. 396 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 3: But the rest of them were you know, Casilla and 397 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 3: Luis Rodriguez, I mean, you know, I don't know. And 398 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 3: then they had you mentioned the pitchers that were were 399 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 3: there even you know, Kyle Losch's of the world. But 400 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 3: you know, Nathan was thirty six saves, one point nine 401 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 3: five eight e r a U. Pat Nishek was pitching 402 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 3: really well at the time. Perkins got in about four games. 403 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 3: But yeah, those were they were again, big personalities, successful team. 404 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 3: When you win ninety six games, you're doing something right. 405 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 3: But they just were never able to capitalize it. You said, 406 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 3: they couldn't make that trade or wouldn't make the trade 407 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 3: to maybe push him over the top. And that's that's 408 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,719 Speaker 3: been kind of the signature where the Twins franchise has been. 409 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: That's it for reminiscing with Rosen final segment. We'll have 410 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: a longer sigment to go. If you want to join us, obviously, 411 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: you can call zero fire, three two six. 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We'll do that all with 423 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: Rose in next segment. The text so far at the 424 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 1: Bradshawn Brian kfan text line at six four six eight 425 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: six O Twins related that's surprise thus far. One texter says, 426 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: what does ROSI think the next Twins manager needs to 427 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: do to try and turn this team around. 428 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 3: Go into Joe Paul D's office and ask him to 429 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 3: give him a blank check and just say, here's here 430 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 3: are the players that I need to try to win 431 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 3: at least in this division. Let's just start with that. 432 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 3: To play catch up with Detroit Cleveland. 433 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: I don't know. 434 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's going to be a plumb job 435 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 3: for I mean, some of the names you've heard, and 436 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 3: you mentioned Nick Punto's name, you know, popular Twins players, 437 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 3: and it's going to be a good job for someone 438 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 3: who takes it because they're gonna obviously get a nice 439 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 3: boost and pay and an opportunity to manage a big 440 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 3: ley cub and probably with very little pressure on him. 441 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 3: But we've said that about you know, Paul Balder probably 442 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 3: gonna have job security for a lot while a little 443 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 3: bit anyway, because you can't. I mean, if you're the 444 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 3: you know whatever is I don't know how fractured the 445 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 3: Twins ownership is, and hiring someone it kind of falls 446 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 3: on deaf ears, that's all. 447 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 4: I mean. 448 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 3: You're gonna have a news conference and introducing you know, 449 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 3: the Nick Punto's or whomever it's going to be, Derek Shell, 450 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 3: you know, just name a name and then you know 451 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 3: the baseball writers will be there and they'll ask them, 452 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 3: you know, how are you going to win with this roster? 453 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 3: What assurances do you have from management that you're going 454 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 3: to try to improve this baseball team? Yeah, we know 455 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 3: you got a great farm system on paper, second in 456 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 3: the in Major League Baseball. Apparently they're not that's that's 457 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 3: not filling out your lineup card next year is not 458 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 3: going to matter. 459 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 2: And when it comes to that, stat great to have that. 460 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 3: But you know, right now, looking at the teams that 461 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 3: are still standing, you know what Toronto and Seattle have 462 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 3: done a particularly American league, the Dodgers in a whole 463 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 3: different rarefied air. But you know those teams have are 464 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 3: have done it, you know, through building their own franchise, 465 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 3: their own players, and also adding a few. So I 466 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 3: don't know, I don't. I think that the more than 467 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 3: any other sport. I think probably is the least effect 468 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 3: on wins and losses. They can win x number of games, 469 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 3: maybe lose a couple with some strategic things or you know. 470 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 3: I know a lot of people, and I never said 471 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 3: that Rockoball Delhi was the perfect manager. 472 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 2: Far from it. 473 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 3: I mean, he made plenty of mistakes to drive me crazy, 474 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 3: pulling pitchers. 475 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 2: Early, I think, and. 476 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: Doing other things. But I don't he wasn't the reason 477 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: why they, you know, ended up where they were. He 478 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: can't throw pitches, he can't swing the back. No, And 479 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: I was reading something about the Dodgers. 480 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 3: I don't know if this is true or not that 481 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 3: a lot of the pitchers we're seeing right now that 482 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 3: they held back a lot of their starters pitched under 483 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 3: one hundred innings this year, and then they're unleashing them 484 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 3: in the postseason or right before that. That's pretty scary 485 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 3: to see. You know, again the depth and the just 486 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 3: the sheer talent level that they have in that pitching staff, 487 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 3: and they and they're supposed to have problems in the 488 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 3: back end of the relievers. They don't have the you know, 489 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 3: the traditional great closures that they've had over the years. Anyway, Yeah, 490 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 3: I did. I don't know what they're going to do. 491 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 3: Text it said, Honestly, who is going to want the 492 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 3: Twins job? 493 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: There? 494 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 2: There's no money looking forward now, I get it, and 495 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 2: I don't. 496 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: I think to your point, there's only thirty mL be 497 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: manager positions. 498 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: Anyone who's getting. 499 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: That job is likely coming from a different coaching position 500 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: where this is going to be a I get it, 501 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: it's the Twins, but it's still gonna be a significant 502 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: pay raise. 503 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: It's still gonna be opportunity. 504 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: I do get the trepidation of right, if there's somebody 505 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 1: who has options of, hey, I can get this job here, 506 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: I get this job there, I can see you picking 507 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: them over the Twins because it is going to be 508 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: hard to believe how is this team going to be 509 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: turning this thing around in the next couple of years, 510 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: Because I don't I don't see a situation where they're 511 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 1: investing money back into the team. 512 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 3: No, I mean, and they have on paper, they have, 513 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 3: they'll they'll have they have a come like three or 514 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 3: four guys that I think that will be a part 515 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 3: of this team in the next year, year and a half. 516 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,479 Speaker 3: I mean even probably starting right after spring training. They 517 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 3: have to they have to bring up some guys that 518 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 3: are you know, traditionally wouldn't be in the major league 519 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 3: roster just yet. And forgetting the old arbitration thing. But 520 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 3: I mean, I know I've been, you know, pounding the 521 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 3: bricks about the guy who's been hurt a little, you know, 522 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 3: dealing with some injuries. But Walker Jenkins is a perfect 523 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 3: example of that. I mean, they drafted when he was 524 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 3: drafted and just a world of talent on paper. I 525 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 3: don't want to wait three years to watch him another year. 526 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 3: I mean, I know he did suffer some setbacks injury wise, 527 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 3: almost like JJ McCarthy, but that's a perfect Culpepper is 528 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 3: another one. I think the kid's name is a shortstop. 529 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,239 Speaker 3: These guys who got to start playing for them. If 530 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 3: they're capable of playing a double A, they're capable of 531 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 3: coming up here and learning the ropes at the major 532 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 3: league level. I would rather as a fan watch those 533 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 3: guys play. I mean, I guess you could go to 534 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 3: Saint Paul and watch If they're over there, then go, 535 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 3: you know, go over to Saint Paul and watch them 536 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 3: play for the Saints. But they need to be here 537 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 3: and need to be here soon, and you don't have 538 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 3: any other options. You want to try to sell some 539 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 3: hope and also get these guys an opportunity to develop 540 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 3: in the major league players. 541 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: Ryan and Michigan says, guys, I have a more simplistic 542 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: take on the Vikings quarterback Ordeal Okay, Wentz will play 543 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: until he has a very poor performance. That's if Wentz 544 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: looks solid, there will always be a reason JJ isn't 545 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: quite ready your thoughts. That's kind of been my take 546 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: this entire time when we've been having this discussion of 547 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: Winz or McCarthy. I think you give Onz another game now. 548 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: I think once has been solid. I don't think he's 549 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: been great. I think he's just been solid. He was 550 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: great the last drive, But you kind of take it 551 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: game by game. If he doesn't perform well and you 552 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: lose against Philadelphia, then it's easy to go back to JJ. 553 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: If he keeps performing well, and the team's winning. You know, 554 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is not a thirty eight year old quarterback. Like, 555 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: there's still a possibility, Like Carson Wentz is your quarterback 556 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 1: for the next five six years, right, I mean of 557 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: the Sam Darnold ilk and the Kirk Cousins ilk. 558 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 2: Right, you could still win with those types of quarterbacks. 559 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 3: Think about who is not over Think about who he's 560 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 3: playing here on Sunday and who the quarterback was who 561 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 3: won the Super Bowl here at us Bank Steal His 562 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 3: name was Nick Foles. What happened to that guy? Yeah, 563 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 3: he had his moment in the sun. So I mean, yes, 564 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 3: it can happen. We've seen it happen a number of times. 565 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 3: I don't the thing with McCarthy and the ankle and 566 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 3: then his development or lack thereof at this point, I 567 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 3: just to me, it's not even an argument that can 568 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 3: be had. 569 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 2: Right now. 570 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 3: You drafted the guy to be your franchise quarterback. He 571 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 3: is going to play, end of story, when he's healthy enough. 572 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 3: They're not holding him back. He would have started the 573 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 3: season if they were going to hold He has to play. 574 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 2: He has to. 575 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 3: He has to fight through some stuff, and that's just 576 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 3: a development whether you're I've seen every successful quarterback. 577 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 1: Doesn't he have to play if you're in a playoff Chase, Well, 578 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: I don't agree he has to play. 579 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 3: Well, it doesn't have to play, depending on how you 580 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 3: identify that, and if he's healthy, I think that decision 581 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 3: will be made long before the playoff Chase really officially 582 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 3: kicks in in December, if you want to call it that. 583 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 3: I just think that when he's healthy enough to play 584 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 3: and he gets a good cup, a good practice weeknd. 585 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 3: I mean that's the problem. He's been so much time 586 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 3: compared to all the other quarter the young quarterbacks were 587 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 3: drafted last year, missing all of last year when he 588 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 3: really wasn't almost even allowed to do anything in the 589 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 3: facility other than going to meetings. 590 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 2: That's sent him back a lot. 591 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 3: So I don't know my judgment on JJ McCarthy is 592 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 3: an NFL quarterback and you got to puff the brakes 593 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 3: and just wait and see. But how Koc handles it, 594 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 3: and we heard, you know, his sharpness with the quick 595 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 3: question about is he going to play and the way 596 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 3: he answered, I'm gonna get myself all wound up about that. 597 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure he's tired of answering it. But 598 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 3: you know he's he's committed to him and the franchise 599 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 3: has committed to him. Otherwise I would have they would 600 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 3: have let Donald. Yeah, but you know, you know Rose, 601 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 3: it's the NFL. You're committed. But this isn't till death 602 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 3: to us part. No, of course not if you have 603 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 3: someone that is produced. That's what I'm saying, Like Carson 604 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 3: Wentz right now has just been solid. If Carson, If 605 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 3: Carson Wentz goes out against. 606 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: Philadelphia on Sunday. Yeah, and this is is a hypothetical. 607 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: I know it's an if. If ifs or fist, we'd 608 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: all be drunk. If he throws twenty seven of thirty 609 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 1: four for three hundred and twelve yards, three touchdowns, new interceptions, 610 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,959 Speaker 1: and the Vikings meet the Eagles by twenty four points. 611 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 1: We're not saying, well, you got to have a look 612 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: at JJ McCarthy. We're not saying that anymore. So there 613 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: is still, like I said, it's not till death do 614 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: us part, that we got to see JJ McCarthy. 615 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 2: There are well and he's going to play. I think 616 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 2: Wentz will play both. 617 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 3: I mean, forgetting anything else that happens in the game 618 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 3: on Sunday and then you play a short week next Thursday. 619 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 3: I can't imagine the JJ McCarthy's going to make his 620 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 3: return on a short week where he can practice basically 621 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 3: one full day and then play against the Chargers. You 622 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 3: really you're practicing a little bit today indoors. According to 623 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 3: Kevin Seaffert, all fifty three guys were out there today, 624 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 3: so that's a good sign. Including again, like I said 625 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 3: to me, the bigger story at the moment is Andrew 626 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 3: van Ginkel. I mean, I think that guy makes that 627 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 3: defense go along with Cashman, and having both those guys 628 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 3: back will have a lot more to do with the 629 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 3: success of the Vikings on Sunday. The necessarily what Carson 630 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 3: Wentz's box score looks like. But yeah, I understand, of 631 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 3: course you're gonna You're not gonna bench him at that point, 632 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 3: but at some point he's not gonna have one of 633 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 3: those games, and I think it's gonna the decision will 634 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 3: be a lot easier for him to u. 635 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: I'm not committed to Carson Wentz. You let him play 636 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: for a week, just see how he does, sure, and 637 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: then we'll talk about it. 638 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 2: After all that matters. 639 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: If Carson Wentz is brilliant, and JJ McCarthy is one 640 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: hundred percent next week. I think there's a reason you 641 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: can still go back to Carson Wentz. 642 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying, Yes you can, but there, yes, 643 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 3: there will be a time however that's identified. We've We've 644 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,239 Speaker 3: had plenty of cases of looking around the league. I mean, 645 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 3: were young quarterbacks just have to sit and wait. Look 646 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 3: what the Packers have done all these years. I mean, 647 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 3: it's just there's been a rush. Who's been a rash 648 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 3: of these young quarterbacks have gotten out there, But a 649 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 3: lot of them have been a lot better in this 650 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 3: second year than they were last year when they played 651 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 3: all last year. McCarthy didn't play it all last year. 652 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 3: Had he played last year, even some who knows what 653 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 3: they would have looked like was considering the way that 654 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 3: Sam Darnold was lighting it up, we would be having 655 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 3: a totally differ discussion. But you don't get those reps 656 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 3: in and he's you know, the judgment on McCarthy is 657 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 3: so far down the road right now, just it really 658 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 3: I can't hand that discussion yet. 659 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep discussing it because we have some text messages. 660 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 2: That's fine. People want to know about. 661 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 3: I get it. 662 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 2: I'm just going to read this the two that support me. 663 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: I kind of like it being in this chair where 664 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: I can just read the ones out loud that support 665 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,479 Speaker 1: my take and the ones that there's plenty of them 666 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: that are disagreeing with me. Flim Flamm says the only 667 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: reason to play McCarthy is to evaluate him before signing 668 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:31,719 Speaker 1: him to a second contract. 669 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 2: We have three more three to four more seasons to 670 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 2: do that. 671 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: Wentz being the better option against the Eagles has nothing 672 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: to do with who plays quarterback the next decade. 673 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 2: Fans are insecure. 674 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: I also had brands right Anthony Richards in fifth overall pick, 675 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: and Colts weren't afraid to switch to Danny Diames, just 676 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: like the Vikings shouldn't have been scared of bringing him 677 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: in to compete with McCarthy. 678 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 2: Biggest mistake made. 679 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: In Ponder Era was being scared of bringing in any 680 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: real quarterback competition and being scared of ruining his confidence 681 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: and Spielman forcing his pick to be right, not wanting 682 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: to admit he made him a. 683 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 3: Well that ponder things a whole nother discussion. I wouldn't 684 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 3: put it in the same category or conversation with any 685 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 3: of these quarterbacks that you're just talking about right now. 686 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson thing was, yeah, I don't think anybody really 687 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 3: saw that coming, and good for them. 688 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 2: They had to move on. 689 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 3: He also got hurt, but at that point they're going on. 690 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 3: Whether Anthony Richardson finds success somewhere down the line in 691 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 3: the NFL with another quarterback whisper remains to be seen. 692 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 3: I don't think he's played his last NFL game, but 693 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 3: we've seen situations when that's happened, and they're not all 694 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 3: going to. 695 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 2: Hit home runs. 696 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 3: We watch a draft day and then guys come and 697 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 3: go in this league pretty quick. And even at the 698 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 3: quarterback position, if you have a great collegiate career, it 699 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 3: doesn't mean anything that you're going to transfer to the NFL. 700 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 3: But you know, for every Drake May, there's an Anthony Richardson, 701 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 3: there's a you know, look at Justin Fields. I look 702 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 3: at what years he in right now. The people think 703 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 3: that he's hit his ceiling now or. 704 00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: What is at this point, Well, that's right team number 705 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,239 Speaker 1: three and still performing the same way. I think now 706 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say that because you know, maybe if you 707 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: get if the quarterback. Westburg got ahold of them, right, 708 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: because we gave up on Baker Mayfield, and we gave 709 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: up on Sam Donald, we gave up on Daniel Jones. 710 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 3: Well, when you say he gave up on Sam Donald, 711 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 3: the Vikings were in a situation where no, I'm not. 712 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: Saying the Vikings game, I'm saying the general public right right, 713 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: Like he was on team number four by the time 714 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: he got to the Viking. 715 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 2: Same with Baker. 716 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield went from Cleveland, he started at Carolina, he 717 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: played a game on a random Thursday night for the Rams, 718 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden landed in Tampa Bay 719 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: MVP candidate. 720 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 2: So I guess, could Justin Fields have that his career. 721 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 3: I guess i'd be You got to be at the 722 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 3: right team, right situation, and you got to have the 723 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 3: right makeup, and you know the hard to identify all 724 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 3: those things coming together at the same time. 725 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 2: I love this guy. You are very confusing. 726 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is won and one in his last two games, 727 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: and we would have lost last week if he didn't 728 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: have a very good last rive. I wrote, nice cherry picking. 729 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: He's two and one in his last three starts, like 730 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: he just changed, and then he comes back at me 731 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: and he's won and one in his last two starts, 732 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: and he's on his last start, right. 733 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 3: And let's let's go back to my original premiss all, 734 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 3: what what I'm more excited about than having this discussion 735 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 3: over and over and over again, which is fine to do, 736 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 3: the fact that the Vikings offensive line is going to 737 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 3: be completely re bolstered. 738 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 2: This, Yes, I mean that is what's going quarter right. 739 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 3: Carson Wentz got buried the other night, the other game too, 740 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 3: and that's shouldn't happen. When when you have Darrisaw playing 741 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 3: every every series, and and you got Donovan Jackson back, 742 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 3: and you got O'Neill back. That's a that's a hell 743 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 3: of an offensive line all of a sudden, those guys 744 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 3: stay healthy and he can run the ball, He can 745 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 3: do a lot more things that a veteran quarterback like 746 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 3: Carson Wentz can take advantage of it. I like watching 747 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 3: Carson play. I don't think he's a liability at all. 748 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 3: I mean, I think he's got a lot of moxie. 749 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 3: He's figured things out, he's been through it. He understands 750 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 3: that that what his limitations are. And you know, he's 751 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 3: the Vikings are fortunate they have them on you know, 752 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 3: pick them up off the scrap heep, as they say, 753 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 3: get them on the team, and that's that's good, fortunate 754 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 3: compared to some of these other teams that are looking 755 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 3: around going we don't have a quarterback at all. I mean, 756 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 3: look at Cincinnati. Oh they got Joe, the two forty 757 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 3: year olds going at it tonight. Yeah, the Jared All 758 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 3: the Jared's Ball Bowl Howl. 759 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 760 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: Ay, Roger, You're not here tomorrow, So i'd like to 761 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: get your opinion on Gophers Nebraska. You got a number 762 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: twenty five team coming in the Huntington Bags Stadium. 763 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 3: I just can't stop thinking about the way that Perdue 764 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 3: rammed the ball against the Gophers in the first half 765 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 3: last week, and they were their own worst enemy. You know, 766 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 3: all the you know, the turnovers, and kudos to the 767 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 3: Gophers for making that happen, But the basics of the game, 768 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 3: the ex's and o's, and if you know, if you're 769 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 3: in Nebraska and you're Matt Ruhle and you're looking at 770 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 3: that tape and you're going, Okay, line them up, We're 771 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 3: going after him over and over and over again. So 772 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 3: unless the Gophers can figure out a way somehow to 773 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 3: have bolster that defense, to line the defensive front, and 774 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 3: I don't know how they're gonna Nebraska's a good football team. 775 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 3: They're not a great, great football team, but they're a 776 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 3: very good football team. And I'd be surprised if Minnesota can. 777 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: We need to win games like this occasionally. Right, they're 778 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: not on games. They're not an elite team. They're a 779 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: quality team. We've got them at home. 780 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 3: They in the. 781 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 2: Agree. 782 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 3: The Nebraska games, Iowa games, Wisconsin of course is a 783 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 3: total mess right now. Uh, those are games that are 784 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 3: on your schedule. They were fortunate, but you know they 785 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 3: won the game. They beat produe they don't have to 786 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 3: excuse you know, excuse it. But this is one that 787 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 3: you're right when you're all of a sudden, you're eight 788 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 3: point underdogs at home on a Friday night, and that 789 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 3: place is going to be rabid with with Cornhusker fans tornight. 790 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 3: This is going to be an exciting I mean, it's 791 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 3: it's gonna be as they say, it's gonna be a 792 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,839 Speaker 3: fun atmosphere between the football game going on over there 793 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 3: and uh, Sir Paul McCartney over at US Bank Stadium, 794 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 3: and whatever else is going on, and it's going to 795 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 3: be a lot of fun this and then the Vikings 796 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 3: of course playing on. I thought I was going to 797 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 3: go from McCarthy to McCartney, McCartney to McCartney McCarthy. Yeah, 798 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 3: I just didn't work out quite the way I was 799 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,280 Speaker 3: hoping to twist this whole weekend. 800 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: But yeah, good about forty seconds where you out with 801 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 1: the Wilder right now, they're two and two of their 802 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 1: game two of their five ym road trip tomorrow night 803 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: in Washington. 804 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. 805 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 3: I mean, that's so early, and I you know, I 806 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 3: heard real quick. I heard the box of the vox 807 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 3: Alan roach on with Pa today and he does the 808 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 3: Colorado Avalanche as well, and he starts rattling off all 809 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 3: those names with McKinnon and ca car and you go, 810 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 3: can the wild compete with it? Just a team like 811 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 3: that next next spring? That's that's where this conversation kind 812 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 3: of begins. Can can they compete with that team in Dallas? 813 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 3: And you know, it's one thing to have a regular season, 814 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 3: you finish in the middle of the pack, you make 815 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 3: the playoffs, and it's just about how you project your 816 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 3: team to perform next spring. 817 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know how to answer that. 818 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 2: I don't think you can answer that right now. Enjoy 819 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 2: your weekend off. I will think you'll be back with 820 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 2: Common on Tuesday. I will be doing that. Yes, then 821 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 2: you're excited, I'll be uh yeah, yeah. 822 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 3: We got the Vikings pre game five Game Day live 823 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 3: on Sunday morning at Talks nine at nine thirty. 824 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 2: Excellent. Thank you, Rosie, my pleasure, good weekend. 825 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: Thanks to Dane Moore for joining us well, and of 826 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: course Common and Douce who joined us for NFL Spread Swing. 827 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 1: And a thank you to Devin who helped out on 828 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: the ten of Fitzgerald for the first time ever. And 829 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: he'll be back tomorrow. No program password tomorrow. We will 830 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: have p versus. Li'll be and justin garden tomorrow. Thanks 831 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 1: for listening. It's been a good day. 832 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 2: Good night, good night, good night, missus Calabash. 833 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 4: We're listening back to any of Common Man's programs by 834 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 4: podcasting on the iHeartRadio app. 835 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 2: More KFA dot com