1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Let's talk some football with Greg Bell, who I understand 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: is uh has moved from the Combine in Indy to 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: Michigan to be with mom and his sister for a while. 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: So Greg, first and foremost, the most important question I 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: have for you is what's for dinner tonight? 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 2: Man? 7 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: What is what is Mama Bell fixing for Greg to 8 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: night at home? 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 2: Well, we go out to visit. 10 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: Okay, Wow, she's her nineties. 11 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, Yes, she's done. She's done enough labor 12 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 2: for me over her lifetime. I ower a few dinners Bestiken. 13 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 3: Uh, No question about it. 14 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: Well, talk about like, let's just give your general thoughts 15 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: of what you saw at the combine. What jumped out 16 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: to you? 17 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: Well, for this most combines seemed to be this way, 18 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: certainly for me covering it as a Seahawk beyt writer. 19 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: But of all the combines that they've had recently, especially 20 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: under John Schneider that sixteen years, this one, the most 21 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: I've noticed is more about the free agents and specifically 22 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: keeping their own free agents than it is the college 23 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: prospects and the underwearre Olympics that starting this weekend, and 24 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: everything we see on TV of the combine. That's not 25 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 2: why John Schneider is there. John Schneider is there for Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, 26 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: meeting with the agents for Kenneth Walker, for Rashijihi, for 27 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: Riq Willen and Kobe Bryant and Boy Mafe because especially 28 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 2: in the case of Kenneth Walker, this is the first 29 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 2: time he's gotten to have a face to face conversation 30 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 2: with Kenneth Walker's agents about what a new contract Michael 31 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: Loupeg because Walker just hired him last month. He hired 32 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: him the week of the NFC Championship game. David Canter 33 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: and is our sports group out of Florida. They haven't 34 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: had a chance to make any ground with the Seahawks 35 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: and Kenneth Walker's agents on a new deal, and of 36 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: course see that all this time to do it and 37 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: they haven't offered him anything. So this week was setting 38 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: a baseline from the agents of what the money would 39 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 2: take to re sign Seattle's own pending free agents, and 40 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 2: then the Seawxit John Schneider and his contract staff or 41 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: personnel guys will take that back to rent next week 42 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 2: and then base a counter offer off of that. Of course, 43 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: the clock's ticking because March ninth is one of the 44 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: markets you can legally tamper with free agents, and then 45 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 2: the official signings begin two days later. So it's a 46 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: condensed process for Snyder the super Bowl. Yes. The thing 47 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: that the corollator that's interesting, guys about this is that 48 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: I asked Schnyder, what about having just four draft picks 49 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: and how that changes your approach to the combine and 50 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: he pretty much said, we had this mapped out a 51 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 2: year or two ago, that this draft class was not 52 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: deep enough and not quality enough to be too worried 53 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: about relatively fewer picks, which is part of the reason, 54 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: the big reason they traded two third day picks to 55 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: get Rashijihi during the season this past year season. And 56 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 2: so he's basically punting this draft. Now. He may pick 57 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 2: up a couple extra picks beyond the four because as 58 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 2: we know, he's picking thirty second at the bottom of 59 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: each of the first three rounds, right, but he's not 60 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: making this a priority this draft, and it sounds it 61 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: feels to me like the COVID year draft when they 62 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 2: only had three pairs. 63 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, so if you look at this, what's your sense 64 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 3: of how they would prioritize. If you had to take 65 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 3: the free agents and list them no. Ties in order 66 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: of your perceived you know, importance coming from the Seahawk camp. 67 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 3: How would you rate the value of the free agents 68 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 3: and the Seahawks desire to sign. 69 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: Well, I said a little differently Hugh with I'll rate 70 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: him by likelihood of returning and being able to resign. 71 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: I think Rashichi he's the most likely and probably the easiest, 72 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: and that may be happening in the next few days, 73 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: next week. I'd be surprised if she he does not 74 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: come back for the reasons I've talked and written about before, 75 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: but primarily because he is a game breaking special teamer. 76 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 2: Yet they have Tory Horton coming back to be the 77 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 2: game breaking deep threat wide receiver, and so it's an 78 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: interesting situation that they're not going to need Rashid shi 79 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 2: heat in both roles next year. If it goes according 80 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 2: to plan and they get Horton back. 81 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: So great, do they just pay him as a special 82 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: teamer then is he going to sign? 83 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: I think that's what they're going to offer him, and 84 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: it'll be up to Shaheed whether they want to go 85 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 2: to market as a wide receiver and a special team. 86 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 2: I know the league values him much more as a 87 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: returner than as a wide receiver. I think Shaheed's going 88 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: to side with returning to a Super Bowl champion. He 89 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 2: loves Jay Harbaugh, he loves the culture. He has said 90 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 2: to me and others that he really wants to stay 91 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: here for as long as he could see, especially after 92 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: that was before they won the Super Bowl. I think 93 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: he's probably the easiest one to come back. The most complicated, 94 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: I want to bomb that, then I should go. The 95 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: second one is Kobe Bryant. The Seahawks value him with 96 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: anybody in the league because Mike mc donald values some 97 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 2: more than anybody league. They've had him three different positions. 98 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: I'd be really surprised if Bryant doesn't re sign. He's 99 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: McDonald loves how he works with Julian Love the most. 100 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 2: The doo complicated ones are to me are Woman, and 101 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 2: most of all Walker Woman because of his freakish physical 102 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: gifts six' four and the long arms and world class, 103 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: speed and the fact that he had A Pro bowl 104 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 2: selection in his rookieyear led the league with. Interceptions he's 105 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 2: gonna get, paid and he's gonna get paid a lot 106 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 2: of money at the primary position of need in the. 107 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 2: League and once a guy gets this close to free, 108 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 2: agency especially a guy who didn't even start full time last, 109 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 2: year he's going to get paid and he's going to 110 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: price himself out Of. SEATTLE i Think Kenneth walker situated 111 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 2: absolutely has changed in the last four. Weeks, okay so, 112 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 2: well for the last year or, So John schneider has 113 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: budgeted what he was going to spend On walker if 114 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: he wanted to offer him on the assumption That Jack 115 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 2: charmonay would be in the job share with him again next. 116 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: Year charbonay's contract runs through next. Season he wasn't counting, 117 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 2: nobody of, course for See charboney was going to tear 118 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: HIS acl and be out probably into the start of next. 119 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: Season how much does that Change seattle's money To? Walker to, 120 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 2: me that's the, question because if they Don't tony up For, 121 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 2: walker they even count Of walker been in a parade 122 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: With Mickey mouse the day after The Super bowl, either 123 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: there's no way they could have envisioned that he'll never 124 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 2: be valued higher than he is. Now walker twenty five years, 125 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: old Super BOWL. Mvp how much more money is that 126 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: going to Cost seattle and how much more money are 127 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 2: they willing to spend because they don't Have charbonay guaranteed 128 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: to come back for next. Season SO i think that 129 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 2: changes their calculus on. It and if they don't Resigned, walker, 130 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 2: guys you're going to. Well PLAN b is a very poor. 131 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: Draft and as you can tell, you can't count on 132 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 2: a rookie running back coming out of a college football 133 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 2: offense and be a bellcow running back in THE. Nfl 134 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: there's too much to. Learn you're reading plays off of cartoon, 135 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: characters off of cards one word. Plays you're, running, running, 136 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: shooting no, huddles you're not pass. Blocking it's just you're 137 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: not running outside. ZONE i, mean it is just it 138 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: is so different for a running back in THE nfl 139 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 2: compared to college football now that then it's even five 140 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 2: years ago that that beep is quantum THAT i can't 141 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: think they would be able to count on. That so 142 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 2: what does that? Mean does that mean A Breis hall 143 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: if The jets don't make to play to keep, Him 144 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 2: does that mean a free a younger twenty something free 145 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: agent like? That the league is really, reluctant as we, 146 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: know to spend money on multi year deals guaranteed, money 147 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: second contract to a position at the most attraded and 148 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: shortest lifespan in the. 149 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 3: League Greg bell WITH us And GREG i find it. 150 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 3: Interesting you, know it's easy for all OF us, fans, 151 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 3: media everybody to kind of poo poo The Underwear, olympics, 152 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 3: right and yet over the last few years there's been 153 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 3: at least three players that we can say that are 154 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 3: absolutely at the very top of The Underwear olympics in 155 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 3: terms of all of their. Measurables Reek, wollen Nick a Min, 156 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 3: WORRY Dk metcalf on some, level not all. Levels you 157 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 3: could say there's a certain turbo button In Deva witherspoon 158 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 3: that shows up when you watch the. Tape maybe he 159 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 3: isn't in that, category but the first three those guys 160 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: are literally like record setting in their. Traits is do 161 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 3: you think that that that speaks to make Me mike 162 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 3: McDonald's willingness to, Say, okay let me take these these 163 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: guys that are just off the chain in their physical 164 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 3: all of their measurables at the, combine AND i can 165 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 3: teach him how to be a football. Player you, know 166 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 3: there's a Reason Nick eminory was. 167 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 2: In the second. 168 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 3: Round they didn't think that he had those type of, 169 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 3: instincts and so at any, rate what about the idea 170 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 3: of this freak show on either side of the, ball 171 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 3: particularly on, defense and whether there's anybody that might fit the, 172 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 3: bill and how The seahawks feel about that these guys 173 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 3: that just test out in this incredible. 174 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 2: Way, yes to answer your, question but those were in 175 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: years The seahawks didn't make the playoffs and they were 176 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 2: drafting more in the low teens and upper twenties now 177 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 2: at the bottom of each of the first three. Rounds 178 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: the other, thing they had the draft, capital the trade 179 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 2: capitol last year to go up seventeen spots to get even. 180 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: Worried they don't have that this. Year part of the 181 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 2: reason they don't have is because they traded up to 182 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 2: get even, worried and then they traded For. Shiki they 183 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 2: may have four, picks, Right so these freaks that these 184 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: that are going to the Next Thursday friday you'll see 185 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 2: on national television In, indianapolis they aren't gonna be available 186 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 2: in the rounds That seattle's gonna be able to. PICK 187 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: i can't see The seahawks being able to. 188 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 3: Move kellen was a fifth rounder AND dk was the 189 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 3: end of the second. Round And nick, was you, know 190 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 3: early six second round in theory. 191 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 2: They could they trade. Mecaf they did trade to Get, 192 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: Metcalf they did trade to get even worry they trade 193 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 2: to back up into the second round to Get. Metcalf 194 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 2: they don't have the ability this year to do. That 195 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: so only if a guy falls to them are they 196 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: gonna be able to get snag somebody like. That but you're, 197 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 2: Right Cam chanceller is a fifth round. Pick Richard sherman 198 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 2: was a fifth round. Pick they just have fewer opportunities 199 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 2: done because of just the four, picks three in the 200 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: first three rounds and then one after. That SO I 201 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 2: i really don't want to put water on fans excitement 202 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: for the draft Around, seattle But i'm telling you this 203 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 2: is a, devalued de emphasized draft from the Way John 204 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: snyder's sitting right, Now Craig bell joined. 205 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: Us Greg Is DeMarcus lawrence going to? 206 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 2: RETIRE i don't. Think. SO i asked McDonald That Brady 207 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 2: henderson respn That CON's been on the beat a long, 208 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 2: time and he more of a supposition was putting connecting 209 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: dots saying he's going to be thirty. Four he's been 210 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 2: in the league twelve, years he finally got who he 211 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 2: didn't get in eleven years in the league In, dallas 212 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: and he wins The Super, bowl why not walk out on? 213 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: Top and that's, Plausible SO i asked McDonald and at the, 214 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 2: combine and McDonald, said. Nope lawrence told him he's coming. 215 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: Back Jared reed told him he's coming. Back all the 216 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 2: guys that are under, contract the veterans said they're coming 217 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: back and their exit. Now McDonald also, said, sure that can. 218 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: Change and if you're To Marcus lawrence and you're back 219 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 2: home right, now or you're on a beat somewhere and 220 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: believes or to ye Here, mexico that's a bad example 221 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 2: that you you may not be too keen on a 222 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 2: ramping it back up again right because you've already read 223 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 2: what else is there left for him To he's made 224 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty million, dollars he's won a Super 225 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 2: bowl that he had never won. Before the whole reason 226 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 2: he said he signed With. Seattle but having said, That, 227 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 2: dick as we, Know hugh knows this better than any of. 228 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 2: Us these guys are uniquely competitive and they're getting told 229 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: now that they can't do it a second. Time people 230 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 2: don't win The Super bowl back to back except by rare, 231 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 2: exception and you can't do it. Again and as De 232 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 2: Marcus lawrence fueled by that is the brotherhood that they 233 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 2: were so talting is the reason that they got WHAT 234 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 2: i got this past season and winning at, all the 235 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 2: brotherhood challenged to do it. Again and is that enough 236 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: to get everybody rapped up and off the beach and 237 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: back into the offseason? Workouts it'll start In. April that's 238 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 2: the ultra competitive nature of a professional athlete that you 239 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: AND i can't. Comprehend it's hard to put an estimation on. 240 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 2: That so my got failing is That lawrence will come. 241 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: BACK i could see every reason why he wouldn't want, 242 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 2: To but he's in the second year of a three year, 243 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 2: deal which was somewhat notable when he signed at thirty 244 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 2: three for three year. 245 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 3: Contracts Greg let's imagine a timeline of where these contracts 246 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 3: are going to get. 247 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 2: Done. 248 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 3: Uh where do you SEE jsn on that? Timeline and 249 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 3: have you been given any any indication that The seahawks 250 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 3: aren't one hundred percent uh willing to pay you, know 251 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 3: PAY jsn ultimately what what they're going to have to pay. 252 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 3: THEM i, mean there's no there's no thought of moving 253 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 3: on FROM. Jsn it just sounds absurd coming out of my. 254 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 3: Mouth BUT i think that there's a small faction Of 255 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 3: seahawks fans hey, Wonder, hey is it is it really worth? 256 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 3: It would you be better off drating them for two 257 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 3: first or what have? You but where DOES jsn fit 258 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 3: on the timeline and how of these signings and how 259 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 3: does it impact some of these other. Contracts, well. 260 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 2: Actually in the, Combine i'm talking to team people around 261 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 2: the league and with the. Team i'll tell you THAT 262 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 2: i got the opposite impression that, then of they might 263 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: not move they might move on from. THEM i got the, 264 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 2: opposite the opposite of being they're going to resign them 265 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: and it's gonna be this. Summer John schneider, said we 266 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 2: don't consider the fifty year, option an option he rarely 267 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 2: uses on first round, picks so he does consider this 268 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 2: to be the contract end of contract years FOR jsn 269 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 2: and For. Witherspoon and typically there's foundation. Players they get 270 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: their deals in the, summer right right before or right 271 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 2: after the started training, camp so they on the and 272 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 2: they're in the back of the line as far as 273 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 2: after they go For walker And rashid Chi he And 274 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 2: wooloan and what they decide to do With Kobe bryant 275 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: and Boy. Mafe then they go get plug in free. 276 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 2: AGENTS i think defense of an offensive line depth AS i, 277 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 2: said perhaps a running back to Pegam milwauker, situation or 278 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 2: even including. It and then they get to the summer 279 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 2: and we'll go TO jsn And. Witherspoon they've budget already 280 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 2: how much is gonna play and it could be a 281 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 2: two hundred million dollar. Contract we're talking too for the 282 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 2: offensive player of the year At smith And Jigbub but 283 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 2: it's not surprising them coming up at the end of their, 284 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 2: contract aytew this and they've had it. Budgeted those two 285 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 2: guys are. Pillars they're gonna get new. Deals i'm almost 286 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 2: certain of. It of, Course i'm the same guy who 287 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: said they'll never Trade Russell. Wilson but these two guys 288 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 2: still in the times of their, CAREERS i Mean smith 289 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 2: and jig but just turned twenty. Two it's they're going 290 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 2: to be around a long time and they're going to 291 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: get paid at the top of their, positions most Likely 292 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 2: july Early. 293 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: August are they okay With sam's cap hit going from 294 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: thirteen to thirty eight million dollars this, year or do 295 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: you see some restructuring? 296 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 2: There, WELL i asked that. QUESTION i Asked snyder about, 297 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 2: that and he, said he signed a three year, deal, 298 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 2: right and he's only played one, year but, RIGHT i 299 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 2: mean he's got two more. LEFT i, asked Does darnold's 300 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 2: situation perhaps be an exception to redoing guys that have 301 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 2: one year only one year left on the. Deal he 302 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 2: made it sound like, No but of course telling me 303 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 2: something and what he actually does might be two different. 304 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: Things but he's got a track, record you're. 305 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: RIGHT i, mean he's got a track record of signing 306 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: guys before their last season under a contractor. 307 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 2: That's, right and he also, will LIKE i would Love 308 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: donald to play another season at the cap rate that 309 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 2: he's at, now he's far exceeded his contract value. ALREADY i, 310 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 2: mean if they had said before they Signed, donald we're 311 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 2: signing a quarterback that's going to win The Super bowl this, 312 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 2: year they would have paid a lot more than three, years. 313 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 3: Right. 314 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: Especially especially one that literally won the game to get 315 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: them to the Super bowl. 316 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 2: Exactly They So snyder would love to be every every 317 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: day of this contract he can under the because he's 318 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 2: already outperformed. It so BUT i think They donald will 319 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 2: be next, Year smith And jiggba for The Big bucks 320 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: on track going into training camp for twenty twenty. Seven 321 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: gotcha a. 322 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 3: Couple more minutes With Greg. 323 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: Bell. 324 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 3: Greg there's a report that came out that THE nfl 325 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 3: there's a report card with all the players taking this 326 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 3: survey and theme. 327 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 2: UP i certainly would. 328 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 3: HAVE i think a lot of my teammates would have, 329 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 3: too you, know you, know just sign of the, times. 330 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 3: Right but But seattle earned AN a, plus a or 331 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 3: a minus in fourteen of the seventeen, categories, right including, 332 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:37,719 Speaker 3: ownership head Coach John, schneider the, nutritionists and offensive coordinator 333 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 3: a YadA, YadA all the the one one of. 334 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 2: Aiden like? That, yeah, yeah how about? 335 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 3: That so the the field, surface AND i think that 336 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 3: was common with many others with the with the with 337 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 3: the turf got AN f for loom and. Field so 338 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 3: that that was. Ad but you know that that may 339 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 3: not be. Fixable but but what my my my question 340 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 3: is is that a source of pride for the the 341 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 3: principles involved With seahawks that they can have that is 342 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 3: that something that they they strive to get these kind of. 343 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 3: Grades do you think it has an? 344 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 2: Impact? What? What? What? What? What? What? 345 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 3: What do you think The seahawks make of that that? 346 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 2: Report, yeah they absolutely pay attention to. It i'm Talking 347 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 2: Jody allen on down Through John, Schneider mike. McDonald it's 348 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 2: a big. Deal it's a street. Cred it's one of 349 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 2: those few publicly verifiable street cred uh measures there are 350 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 2: to pull the curtain back on. Organizations and it is 351 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: the perception and reality thing that free agents do pay attention. 352 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 2: To because the free agents that signed with The seahawks 353 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 2: or any other team are the ones who voted on 354 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 2: that survey just a couple of weeks or a couple 355 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 2: of months, ago in Mid. DECEMBER i will say a 356 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 2: couple of things on. That, first hats off To Caitlin, 357 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 2: keyler THE espn report reporter who obtained and then publicized 358 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 2: what the arbors said the NFL pa could not, publicize 359 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 2: and so the NFL pa, says all, right we'll just 360 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 2: hand it to her and she can put it out for, 361 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 2: us which is still by the letter of the arbiters. Ruling, 362 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 2: okay the field issue is to me fixable because this 363 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 2: year there will be, grass, yeah and worlding field for 364 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 2: the for The World. Cup this to me is a 365 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 2: a make your mark issue for the new owners that 366 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 2: come in by The. Seahawks you're not going to change 367 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 2: the football. Operation you'd be absolutely stupid To you're not 368 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 2: going to change the culture That mike McDonald And John 369 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 2: schneider have. Said so what can you change that actually 370 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 2: matters to? Players, well let's look at the. Report, oh 371 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: the field is an F by the, way this is 372 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 2: a latent. Vote this was the first time of the 373 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 2: four years that the survey has been existence that they 374 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 2: they had home field surface as a. Category so there 375 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 2: have Been seahawks that have been around a few days 376 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 2: THAT i can even feel THAT i can tak up 377 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 2: on my, head BUT i won't who have been complaining 378 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 2: about this field for a long. Time players a hate. 379 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 2: TURF i don't care what THE nfl says about their 380 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 2: propaganda with studies that say in real grass and turf 381 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 2: are equal in. Injuries, no players hate. Turf they can't 382 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 2: walk after playing on it for days and. Days they 383 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 2: much prefer. Grass there's fifteen or thirty teams that play on, 384 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: grass and when The seahawks play on Grass it's like 385 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 2: they're telling them they get to go To hawaii for the. 386 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 2: Week they think it's a vacation compared to what they 387 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 2: usually have to play on the Sew. Siaks owners can fix. 388 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 2: This they can either keep THEIR fifa grass field from 389 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 2: this year or come up with a different, solution but 390 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 2: they don't have to go back to what it currently. 391 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 2: Is of, course we know why it's currently this way 392 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 2: is BECAUSE nfl owners don't want. To the reason why 393 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 2: they're billionaires is they make money and they don't spend. 394 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 2: Money they don't want to spend Their they like their, 395 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 2: revenue their their cost, advantage and the revenue share a 396 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 2: grass field cuts into that, well. 397 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: Because whether they whi two different. THINGS i, mean have 398 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: we seen the last game ever At luminfield with? 399 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 2: TURF i don't think, so but it's they. Should i'm 400 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 2: not sure that a new owner is going to want 401 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 2: to cut out revenue streams of A Taylor swift concert 402 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 2: and A morgan Wall in concert and a, motocross or 403 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 2: if they do have those concerts and a motocross replacing 404 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 2: the grass field every time they do. It the players 405 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 2: wanted it done. Yesterday they wish they could play on grass, 406 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 2: anytime and people, say, well it rains too much in a. 407 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 2: Climate they grow grass in the desert In Las vegas 408 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 2: And arizona on trays and roll them in greenhouses during 409 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 2: the week and then roll them in for the game 410 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 2: and roll them back out. Again it's, doable but that 411 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 2: costs money and owners don't like to spend. Money they 412 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 2: like to make. Money so that's. Well see if you 413 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 2: want to if to, me if you want to get 414 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 2: on the players good side as a new, owner don't 415 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 2: change anything but the field. Surface and, hell The seas 416 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 2: would be number one in the league in. Ratings they 417 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 2: change the field service they have Always. 418 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: Greg you're number one in our. Ratings, man go have 419 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: a good dinner with your mom and your. SISTER i appreciate. That, 420 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: guys good to talk to. 421 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 2: You Thanks, Thanks. 422 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: Greg save travels. Home Greg bell from The Coma news 423 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: tribute and always does an amazing job both for us 424 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: and in the. Newspaper lots to get. To we have 425 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: Got Daniel kramer Talking mariner baseball at five. O'clock we're 426 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: also gonna talk About Jerry brewer's visit With Ian furness 427 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: coming up as. Well before the end of the Show 428 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: Brian schmetzer at six o'clock on ninety three point THREE kjrfm. 429 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 2: From THE r AND R Foundation Specialist Broadcast. Studio now 430 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 2: back To softie And dick on Your home for The, 431 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 2: Huskies kraken and the Twelfth Man Sports radio ninety three 432 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 2: point three kJ R. 433 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: Fm all, right thanks To Greg, bell who has been 434 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 1: busy at The combine this past. Week he's now home 435 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: with mom In michigan getting some much deserved. Days it 436 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: has been a long month Of february For Greg, bell 437 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: there is no question about, it but combine going. On 438 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: hugh AND i just saw here some good news for 439 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: dog fans that like to see their players go higher 440 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: in the. Draft their cornerback tandem Of Tacario davis And 441 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: Ephesians Price sock both running in the four fours today 442 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: To carrio at four point four to, One ephesians at 443 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: four point four. FIVE i just Saw, dylan is It 444 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: fineman Or theenman From? Oregon the safety four three seven 445 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: white Dude blaze in a four. 446 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 2: To three seven From. 447 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: Safety we're not we're not rooting For oregon to, be you, 448 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: know to do, well but that's. Impressive get you're going 449 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: to four to three seven as a, safety and we'll 450 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: Get we'll get our Friend Jonah coleman, tomorrow who will 451 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: who will run tomorrow the forty yard, dash will do 452 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 1: all the, measurables some of Which i'm sure the strength 453 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: Ones jonah should be absolutely fabulous. In AND i want 454 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: to get your take after our read you THIS espn 455 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: scouting report On Jonah, coleman and we'll see what you 456 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: agree with and disagree. With coleman Followed jedfish From arizona 457 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: To washington and led The huskies in rushing, attempts yards 458 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: and touchdowns in twenty twenty. Five compactly built at five 459 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: nine two twenty, eight The stockton, native a physical, runner 460 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: possesses fantastic cutback ability and substantial lower body. Quickness he 461 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: can separate himself as a top three pick at the 462 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: position by demonstrating soft hands and an understanding of a 463 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: diverse route tree through His though his top end speed is, 464 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: lacking a forty yard dash in the sub four to 465 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: six range should be enough to convincecent potential suitors of 466 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: a day to. Pick coleman has the goods to thrive 467 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: as a lead runner runner in a backfield rotation anything 468 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: stick out to you about that scouting report FROM, espn 469 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: either that you agree with or. 470 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 3: Disagree, WELL i think the TERM i would, HAVE i 471 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 3: mean they kind of elude to his strengthen what have. 472 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 3: You BUT i think his his his contact, balance like 473 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 3: he he can take a, shot and you, know obviously 474 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 3: he's got a very unique frame for a running. BACK i, mean, 475 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 3: look We've i'm not, saying and we've never Seen maurice Stones, 476 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 3: drew you, know you, know and and if he if 477 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 3: he's five, Nine I'm kareem Abdul, jabbar so there there's 478 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 3: no way THAT i expect him to become a measure 479 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 3: five Nine, okay but that's. Okay you, Know there's been 480 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 3: a lot of great backs that have been uh, short 481 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 3: and and AND i think for him it, helps you, 482 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 3: KNOW i mean he's he's very thick and and again 483 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 3: HIS i think his balance is. 484 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 2: Elite UH. 485 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 3: I i don't know That i've seen a lot of 486 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 3: times where he created something that wasn't. There you, KNOW 487 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 3: i think he he's usually most of his his good, 488 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 3: RUNS i think there was there's decent. BLOCKING i don't 489 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 3: know that he can just you, know he can just make, 490 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 3: magic you, know like A Bijon. Robinson you know that 491 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 3: the type of, guys the running backs that are worthy 492 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 3: of a first round draft. 493 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 2: PICK i. 494 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 3: DON'T i think there's a noticeable. DIFFERENCE i. DON'T i 495 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 3: don't think that he's at that. Level but but a 496 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 3: day TWO i think that that. Fits and and and 497 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 3: you know he's been he's been relatively, durable, right and So. 498 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: I'm excited to see. 499 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 3: It but but he's got he's got an extremely unique 500 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 3: style of. 501 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: Running IF i presented you the scenario, THAT i don't 502 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: think this is going to, happen but it's not a 503 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: zero percent chance, either that The Seattle seahawks open the 504 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: twenty twenty sixth season With Jonah coleman as their lead 505 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: running back after being taken with their second. Pick how 506 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: good a situation would we be? 507 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 3: In, YEAH i wouldn't love. 508 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 2: THAT i. 509 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 3: DON'T i don't think he's In knines category as a 510 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 3: runner just handing the ball to see if you can get. 511 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 3: YARD i don't think he. Can he can CREATE i. 512 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 3: Don't he certainly doesn't have the speed the burst if 513 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 3: you're if you're running the outside zone, scheme you don't 514 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 3: have to be elite speed to make it. Go you 515 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 3: can you can be a cutback runner in, that but 516 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 3: you're going to be more effective if you do have 517 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 3: a burst because your first read as a running, back 518 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 3: you're reading that in my online. Scrimmage even if you 519 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 3: run it to the the o the open, side away 520 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 3: from the tight, end you're still trying to read the 521 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 3: end man on the line of scrimmage m l os 522 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 3: the defender and if you hook, him then that's a 523 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 3: that's a read to bounce the, ball that's a. Go 524 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 3: you've got to burst and get and you're taking that. 525 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 3: Outside so even though you call outside, ZONES i MEAN 526 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 3: I i had one of those in the the. 527 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 2: Forty nine er. 528 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 3: GAME i broke down and, say THE nfl will forever 529 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 3: cast it as you, know the ball went off, guard you, 530 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 3: know because they in the play by play they say 531 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,479 Speaker 3: did it go off, guard, center off, tackle, wide and 532 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 3: what have. You and there was a number of plays 533 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 3: where THE nfl play by, play you, know from now 534 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 3: to the end of the, time we'll read That canine 535 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 3: took the ball over the. Middle but you watch the 536 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 3: tape and you say that was outside. Zone he stretched 537 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 3: it and then he cut it, back and so that 538 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 3: cutback ability is there For, jonah but having the defense 539 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 3: have to flow with a little bit more vigor to 540 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 3: really be worried about the stretch play the ball getting, 541 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 3: outside it helps the outside zone. RUNNING i don't think 542 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 3: he has that kind of. 543 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: Burst when we Had Mike florio, on he talked about 544 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: the just the supply and demand at the running back, 545 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: position and he, said you, know there are just more 546 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: good running backs than spots to use, them which is 547 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: one of the reasons that pushes the value of the 548 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: running backs. DOWN i don't know IF i agree with, 549 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: that because you, KNOW i took a look at all 550 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: the starters today in THE, nfl AND i only see 551 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: about fifteen guys THAT i look at and, say, yeah 552 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: those are lock starting running back in THE. Nfl and there. 553 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 2: Are thirty two. 554 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: Teams so if they're only, fifteen let's say there's even 555 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty guys that are lock starting running backs 556 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: in THE, nfl and Certainly canine is one of. Them 557 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: that still leaves you with a third of the league 558 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: or more that doesn't have a lock starting running. Back 559 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: and so to, me it's like it seems like there's 560 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: almost there's about as many lock starting running backs in 561 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: THE nfl that there are lock starting quarterbacks and we always, say, 562 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: wow there's just not enough starting quarterbacks to go. Around 563 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: so would you agree With mike that there's a there's 564 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: a dearth of running back or there's a there's a 565 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: plenty of running backs in THE nfl that can just 566 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: fill in and be good. 567 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 3: Starters well, it you, know talk about the, margins, Right, 568 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 3: yeah there's there's plenty of running backs you can hand 569 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 3: the ball. To but but when you watch money not, 570 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 3: football Does Bejon robinson seem to do things that other 571 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 3: guys can't? 572 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 2: Do? 573 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 3: Absolutely, Now Derrick henry this is not the year to ask, 574 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 3: this but if we went back twelve months or twenty, 575 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 3: four Because Derek henry's what thirty one? Now but but 576 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 3: When Derrick henry was, rolling not not Just i'm talking 577 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 3: about just you, know a year or two ago With. 578 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 3: Baltimore yeah, yeah good, year this year, too, yeah good. 579 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 3: Six when you watch The, lions Does Jamiir? 580 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 2: Goobbs? 581 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 3: Yeah do you watch and you you, say, oh whoa 582 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 3: that he's doing things, that, uh that other guys can't. 583 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 3: Do so SO i think you have to pay for 584 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 3: that margin of. Greatness you, know when you you, know 585 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 3: as you start getting down the, line then you, say, 586 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 3: okay that that's. Nominal it's you know what he's providing his. 587 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 3: Nominal i'll agree on. That and you know you can 588 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 3: you can fall off the cliff. Fast we were talking 589 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 3: about some of the the the success stories with guy's 590 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 3: age twenty. Six but you know, what ask the cowboys 591 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 3: how they felt About Ezekiel elliott and how he fell, 592 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 3: off you, know so so you know there's examples of 593 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 3: guys hitting after age twenty six Where canine's going to, 594 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 3: be and then there's an example of guys really falling. 595 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 3: Off but BUT i would say the special running backs are? 596 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 3: Special how much more you need to? Pay it seems 597 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 3: to me. 598 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 2: In a world where you're. 599 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 3: Living you, know you, know the difference between thirteen million 600 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 3: and eight, million that five million dollar difference goes longer 601 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 3: than the, difference you know between a thirty seven million 602 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 3: dollar receiver and a thirty two million dollar. 603 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: Receiver, well and you mentioned the three of, them and 604 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: there's only a couple. MORE i, Mean, SAQUON i don't 605 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: know if he's going to be special any. More christian 606 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: McCaffrey certainly has been. Special so there's just a there's 607 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: a small. Handful. 608 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 3: Well christian McCaffrey is unique because he's he has wide 609 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 3: receivers skill trade so when so when you, know and 610 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 3: he's been. Great his ability to run an option route 611 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 3: and you, know run a few routes out of the 612 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 3: backfield has has made him more. 613 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: Valuable Daniel kramer joins the time up of the hour 614 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: FROM mlb Dot Com talk And mariner spring, training but