Speaker 1: All right back on the Big One, seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 1: It is nine oh eight. This is I almost said
Speaker 1: it's a midweek crisis, but that was last night in
Speaker 1: the night before. This is, uh, this is normally Sterling
Speaker 1: is normally here on Friday night little Sterling and Donna
Speaker 1: d Action, but not tonight. Sterling is enjoying a Friday
Speaker 1: night off. I'm Dan Carroll, so I get to sit
Speaker 1: in for Sterling. Glad to be here, Glad you are
Speaker 1: here as well. We are going to roll till midnight tonight.
Speaker 1: Russ Jackson is running the big board in the seven
Speaker 1: hundred WLW Command Center. Great to see Russ doing some
Speaker 1: guest appearances running Russ? Is this going to become a
Speaker 1: regular thing with you? Man, You're gonna be apparent? Apparently? Well,
Speaker 1: he's he's getting roped in running the big board in
Speaker 1: the seven hundred WLW Command Center. So I appreciate him
Speaker 1: being here and everything he does. So when you call in,
Speaker 1: make sure you say hello to Russ. Five one, three,
Speaker 1: seven four, nine, seven thousand and one, eight hundred the
Speaker 1: Big One. If you're thinking to yourself, you know what
Speaker 1: I heard this guy on earlier today? You did? I
Speaker 1: sat in for Bill Cunningham earlier today. And Dave Armbrewster
Speaker 1: is the guy that does all the scheduling for those
Speaker 1: of us who sit behind the microphone, and he texted
Speaker 1: me yesterday and he said, he said, man, I need
Speaker 1: I need a solid, need a favor, gotta need need
Speaker 1: you to fill in for nine to midnight Friday night.
Speaker 1: And I said, I'm there for you, buddy. So here
Speaker 1: I am. And So I was doing the Cunningham Show
Speaker 1: earlier today and it was a it was a great show.
Speaker 1: If you didn't catch it, go back and listen to
Speaker 1: it on the iHeart iHeart Media app. I don't know
Speaker 1: how you do that, but it's there. It's all there.
Speaker 1: And right as I was getting done with that show,
Speaker 1: a video came out, another video of the shooting that
Speaker 1: happened in Minneapolis and the shooting that took the life
Speaker 1: of this woman and Renee Nicole Good. And this is
Speaker 1: the video from the bodycam of one of the agents.
Speaker 1: Actually it's the federal agent that got hit by the
Speaker 1: car behind the pilot that she was driving. And this
Speaker 1: video recks a lot of liberal narratives about what happened.
Speaker 1: And a couple of nights ago was on the Wednesday
Speaker 1: night edition of The Midweek Crisis, I was talking about
Speaker 1: this and I was describing the video that was out then.
Speaker 1: Since then, more videos, different angles have appeared, and I
Speaker 1: was talking about the multiple videos that night. I think
Speaker 1: I had seen at that point, I had seen I
Speaker 1: don't know, three or four different angles of what happened,
Speaker 1: and I was pretty convinced early on that the federal
Speaker 1: agent that had to open fire on her did so
Speaker 1: come completely justified. It's a it's a terrible incident that
Speaker 1: had happened. I'm very sorry that this woman is dead,
Speaker 1: but her own decisions, her own actions, brought it on herself.
Speaker 1: And so the camera that was worn by the ice officer,
Speaker 1: I think really settles a lot of things, especially this
Speaker 1: narrative about how this woman was just in the neighborhood
Speaker 1: dropping her son off at school, didn't really realize she
Speaker 1: was in the you know, the middle of this this
Speaker 1: federal ice operation. Now, it really none of that is true.
Speaker 1: There's a section of that video where the and and
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not I didn't you know. I was thinking
Speaker 1: about playing the cut and playing the audio of that,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't really, it doesn't really you have to
Speaker 1: see it more than here it I think it's it's
Speaker 1: I just don't think it works in my opinion. I
Speaker 1: don't think it works on radio. But at one point
Speaker 1: you hear the other woman who is described as uh
Speaker 1: as this woman's partner. I guess I've seen reports that
Speaker 1: says they're married. I don't know, I don't care, but
Speaker 1: they're The woman who is this other woman's partner is
Speaker 1: talking to the ice agent and she says to the
Speaker 1: effect of, do you want to come at us? Do
Speaker 1: you want to come in? You know, in a intimidating way.
Speaker 1: And look, the the ice officer was not threatened by her.
Speaker 1: The Ice officers and she's not that big of a gal,
Speaker 1: but she was saying, do you want to come at us?
Speaker 1: So implying that you know, if you know you're gonna jump,
Speaker 1: let's go, let's uh, let let's let's throw down. And
Speaker 1: she said to the effect you better bring a lunch,
Speaker 1: which I found a little bit humorous because I seriously
Speaker 1: doubt that that particular ice agent would have had to
Speaker 1: pack a lunch if he was going to go toe
Speaker 1: to toe with her. So in any case, you see
Speaker 1: the you see the the point of view from the
Speaker 1: body cam. He walks past her, circles around towards the
Speaker 1: front of the car, and there's, uh, there's a brief
Speaker 1: point and then and look, there's there's a lot of extrain.
Speaker 1: And this is why I don't think this particular cut
Speaker 1: works on radio and why I'm not playing it tonight.
Speaker 1: There are there may be other people on the radio
Speaker 1: that play it, but there's a lot of extraneous noise.
Speaker 1: There's a there's voices that are coming in from off camera.
Speaker 1: It's just from an audio standpoint, I think it's easy
Speaker 1: to lose context on what exactly you're hearing if you
Speaker 1: if you're not seeing it with with your own eyes,
Speaker 1: there's uh, you know, they're there're sirens. There's at one
Speaker 1: point you hear the engine in the car, and that
Speaker 1: is I think a clear indication that she was stepping
Speaker 1: on the gas trying to not gently move the car forward,
Speaker 1: but step on the gas and have the car alerge forward,
Speaker 1: which is when you hear the sound of the impact
Speaker 1: and you hear that ice officer gets struck by the car.
Speaker 1: I don't think it leaves any doubt as to whether
Speaker 1: or not he had fear of imminent danger. And bodily
Speaker 1: harm and death to himself. I think that that video
Speaker 1: erases all doubt. And I'm looking to the monitor on
Speaker 1: my left. There's a live shot from Minneapolis, Minnesota right now,
Speaker 1: and there is a huge demonstration filling the streets of
Speaker 1: downtown Minneapolis tonight. And they're channing in the demonstrations that
Speaker 1: took place last night. And I know there were some
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. I don't know if there's any taking place.
Speaker 1: Maybe if you do know, you can fill me in.
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any demonstrations taking place in
Speaker 1: downtown Cincinnati tonight. But some of the chanting that was
Speaker 1: going on last night was talking about stringing up Christineome,
Speaker 1: the head of Homeland Security, talking about killing ice agents,
Speaker 1: wanting dead ice agents. Now, if you remember the some
Speaker 1: of the BLM protests where they were very anti police,
Speaker 1: pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon. Remember those
Speaker 1: heartwarming chants from that really good group of people. So
Speaker 1: you know, so this is what's happening in downtown Minneapolis tonight.
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of people with pots and pans.
Speaker 1: There's a gentleman with a large looks like a large
Speaker 1: metal mixing bowl, and he's got well, it appears to
Speaker 1: be a drumstick, like a like a drumstick from a
Speaker 1: drum kit, banging on the metal bowl. So they're out
Speaker 1: there and doing their thing tonight, and it doesn't look
Speaker 1: like it's too out of control. So we'll keep an
Speaker 1: eye on that. If anything happens with that, we'll be
Speaker 1: talking about it. But the officer that fired multiple shots
Speaker 1: was standing in front of the car. There is no
Speaker 1: there can be no question about that now. And you know,
Speaker 1: the first night I was talking about this, I had
Speaker 1: like to three or four callers in a row that
Speaker 1: vehemently disagreed with me and what I was seeing on
Speaker 1: that video in the way I was describing it. And
Speaker 1: so you know, I ask you, if you've seen it,
Speaker 1: what did you see? Maybe you see something different than
Speaker 1: I did. And I certainly understand the idea that two
Speaker 1: people can look at the same thing and see see
Speaker 1: something different. And by the way, on this Peach Bowl game,
Speaker 1: Indiana is just just crushing Oregon thirty five to seven
Speaker 1: at the half. Unbelievable. Let's see, here's the way it
Speaker 1: was written up in by Matt Vespa. I'm not so
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, this is not Matt Vespa. This is Hudson
Speaker 1: Krozer at the Daily Caller, and he writes at least
Speaker 1: three federal agents were seen approaching the now deceased driver's
Speaker 1: suv ordering her to step out just before the altercation occurred.
Speaker 1: The Department of Homeland Security blamed the driver for the
Speaker 1: incident in the statement, claiming she attempted to run the
Speaker 1: officer over just before he fired. Get out of the car.
Speaker 1: Get out of the effing car. One agent was heard
Speaker 1: saying in the video as the group approached the vehicle
Speaker 1: on the snowy road a suburban in a suburban neighborhood.
Speaker 1: The agent then grabbed the car's door handle. A bystander
Speaker 1: is yelling no as the driver begins to move the
Speaker 1: car backward. Another agent was seen circling the car just
Speaker 1: as it was moving, eventually standing in front just before
Speaker 1: the car lunged forward. You fired at least two shots
Speaker 1: at the driver as the car came towards him, and
Speaker 1: that is when you hear the impact on the video.
Speaker 1: So initially and immediately after this incident happened, and some
Speaker 1: of the first videos came out, The first couple of
Speaker 1: videos I saw on this were not very good at all.
Speaker 1: The action of what took place was out of frame,
Speaker 1: and so it was it was, you know, I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe an hour or two hours later is when you
Speaker 1: saw a video that really gave you a good idea
Speaker 1: of what happened there. But the left immediately called it murder.
Speaker 1: Some of the liberal narratives that got destroyed because of
Speaker 1: this video. Matt Vesper wrote it up in town Hall
Speaker 1: and he talks about Minneapolis still simmering because the ICE
Speaker 1: agent had to shoot and kill Renee. Nicole Good appeared
Speaker 1: to be attempting to ram a federal agent. Good was
Speaker 1: not fearing for her life as some suggest. She seems happy,
Speaker 1: happy as a clam. He writes, this obviously wasn't her
Speaker 1: first rodeo. She was a professional left wing activist who
Speaker 1: trained others to disrupt ICE operations and led convoys to
Speaker 1: that end. We also see the wife of the domestic partner,
Speaker 1: Rebecca tning federal agent saying they'll change the plates before
Speaker 1: shots are fired. She's also heard yelling at Renee to
Speaker 1: drive as the agent is in front of the vehicle.
Speaker 1: The media went off the rails on the murder angle,
Speaker 1: yet did not analyze the full footage properly. Every legal
Speaker 1: expert said this was likely a justified shooting. Yet Mayor
Speaker 1: Jacob Frye and other Democrats have gone insane and continued
Speaker 1: today with this notion that Ice agents are killers. The
Speaker 1: Governor Tim Wallace has been grossly irresponsible in framing this incident.
Speaker 1: Others like mandani ilhan Omar, they have been bad mouthing
Speaker 1: Ice and spreading false information about this incident as well.
Speaker 1: So I'm looking at these demonstrations in Minneapolis and there's
Speaker 1: just it seems like they're lacking a little energy. I
Speaker 1: am going to predict that after tonight we're probably not
Speaker 1: going to see a lot more of them as the
Speaker 1: truth continues to come out. Let's go to Sharonville and
Speaker 1: say hey to Bobby. Bobby you're on seven hundred WW.
Speaker 2: Thanks for taking the call, my friend out there been
Speaker 2: awful busy today covering two or three shifts.
Speaker 3: We love a good patriot.
Speaker 1: I'm glad to do it. You know, Bill Cunningham likes
Speaker 1: to say he's a workhorse, not a show horse, and
Speaker 1: so it's an only work horse always.
Speaker 2: My friend up in Minnesota, it was justifiable, you know,
Speaker 2: shooting from the officer. You looked the left front wheel
Speaker 2: of her vehicle, it was spinning in the ice, and
Speaker 2: finally you'd hit pavement when it won shit that answer, Yeah,
Speaker 2: he was in front of that automobile. It was a
Speaker 2: justified shooting.
Speaker 1: I think that's that's really the only the only way
Speaker 1: to see it. You know, I was talking about this
Speaker 1: the very first night, and a lot of times when
Speaker 1: you see videos of incidents, and a lot of times
Speaker 1: we see, you know, police bodycam video or dash cam video.
Speaker 1: A lot of times those videos don't really they don't
Speaker 1: provide a lot of context. They really don't answer all
Speaker 1: the questions. Sometimes they create more questions than they answer,
Speaker 1: and so you got to look at them, I think
Speaker 1: on a case by case basis, and I think this video,
Speaker 1: because of the different angles, really provides the context that
Speaker 1: we need. You know, we don't really have the context
Speaker 1: of how everyone got into the position that they were in,
Speaker 1: so that you know that that'll all wind up being
Speaker 1: ferreted out. But you know, there are stories that this
Speaker 1: gal was helping to lead the protest, organizing people to
Speaker 1: get in the way and then obstruct this federal investigation,
Speaker 1: this federal operation. But the main elements of what happened here,
Speaker 1: I think are covered by multiple videos, and so you
Speaker 1: can you can see for yourself from different angles. There
Speaker 1: are some angles where it appears, you know, the guy
Speaker 1: may have been raised or standing off to the side
Speaker 1: a little bit. But then when you see a different
Speaker 1: angle or reverse angle, the one that comes from down
Speaker 1: the street a little bit, I think is very conclusive
Speaker 1: where you actually see that individual, that ICE agent, getting
Speaker 1: hit and getting pushed back I don't know, five six
Speaker 1: seven feet and then I don't know if you saw
Speaker 1: the video that came out earlier today, but you hear
Speaker 1: the sound of that impact, and there is in my
Speaker 1: way of thinking, there's no question that that that vehicle
Speaker 1: impacted that ICE agent in a in a serious manner.
Speaker 2: Well, it was an unfortunate situation, but the bottom line
Speaker 2: is it was a justifiable discard of his weapon. That's
Speaker 2: exactly what he's trained to do. That's what he's supposed
Speaker 2: to do. You can't hesitate on situations like that. You
Speaker 2: don't shoot at the car. The car is not the weapon.
Speaker 2: The driver's the weapon that's operating the automobile. That's the
Speaker 2: way they're.
Speaker 1: Turning back that that car is at that point, it
Speaker 1: was a deadly weapon, and a car can be used
Speaker 1: as a deadly weapon. And unfortunately for her, for Renainnicle Good,
Speaker 1: she made that she made the wrong decision. And if
Speaker 1: you look at her before, I mean she was she
Speaker 1: you know, she wasn't in fear, she wasn't afraid, she
Speaker 1: wasn't confused. She was talking. She actually spoke with the
Speaker 1: ice officer, and I think you can hear us say,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not mad, I'm not you know, It's
Speaker 1: all she was, you know, trying to be a little
Speaker 1: lighthearted and joking about it. And then whatever made her
Speaker 1: decide to to back that car up a little bit
Speaker 1: and then step on the gas and being aimed right
Speaker 1: at that officer, we will never know.
Speaker 2: Well, the socialist Democrats or Marxist or whatever you want
Speaker 2: to classify him, as they're looking for any opportunity to
Speaker 2: cause anarchy, Well in the midst of a cultural revolution,
Speaker 2: people need to understand that. And it's going to be
Speaker 2: a step by step process, and these people are not
Speaker 2: going to stop.
Speaker 1: I agree, and you know, we we people need to
Speaker 1: know that interfering with the federal officers as they are
Speaker 1: doing what they are legally bound to do, and they're
Speaker 1: following the law. They're following orders. If you don't like it,
Speaker 1: that's fine, you can protest, but do not get in
Speaker 1: their way. And I think that's the lesson that we
Speaker 1: need to learn from us. Bobby, thank you very much
Speaker 1: for the phone call. Do you have yourself a great weekend?
Speaker 1: My friend? You took all right? There you go, Bobby
Speaker 1: from Charonville. We appreciate him checking in nine to twenty five.
Speaker 1: We got to get to a break. New's coming up
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Speaker 2: We go to.
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Speaker 1: seven thousand and one, eight hundred, the big one. We've
Speaker 1: got Rex and Anderson Indiana. I'll get to him just
Speaker 1: a second. But I had my buddy Zeke Arkhaman last night.
Speaker 1: We were talking about this. Zeke is in law enforcement and
Speaker 1: we were talking about the notion of uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the car being a deadly weapon and how as a
Speaker 1: as a police officer, as a law enforcement officer, you're
Speaker 1: trained to, you know, get out of the way, or
Speaker 1: that a car is a deadly weapon and they can
Speaker 1: be used against you as such. And so, and I
Speaker 1: encouraged everyone last night to follow Zeke on social media.
Speaker 1: And this is why he posted this a little while ago.
Speaker 1: And he writes, since the left now believes he has
Speaker 1: an honest question, Since the left now believes you can
Speaker 1: just move out of the way when a car is
Speaker 1: approaching you, does this mean the next time they protest
Speaker 1: by blocking the streets, it's their own fault if they
Speaker 1: get run over because they could have just moved out
Speaker 1: of the way. If we're going to go down that road,
Speaker 1: let's go all the way down that road, my buddy,
Speaker 1: Zeke Arkham right there, Anderson, Indiana and Rex Rex, you're
Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 4: Okay, thank you, Dan, I appreciate it. You know, I've
Speaker 4: been thinking for years. We've had all these protests over
Speaker 4: the years Black lives matter, When they had that riot
Speaker 4: up there in Minnesota, when that young boy traveled to
Speaker 4: help his buddy protect his car a lot and all that,
Speaker 4: and then the Summer of Love in Portland Plumbia University.
Speaker 4: You guys had your own here a few years back.
Speaker 1: I guess, uh, yes, we did, of course.
Speaker 4: See people out there on the interstate. And now they're
Speaker 4: going to pay him.
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, they are collecting that.
Speaker 5: I'm not.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been told that there's all kinds of advertisements
Speaker 4: out there for professional we're hiring professional protests. It's supposed
Speaker 4: to be on craigs List. They had a running I
Speaker 4: was told here in the New York Times they was
Speaker 4: running help wanted ads and all that I've seen.
Speaker 1: I've seen those. I've seen those post its.
Speaker 4: Okay I haven't, but I've heard a lot about it
Speaker 4: from people that know what you're talking about. And so
Speaker 4: I've been thinking about this. There's a huge organization out
Speaker 4: there that's hiring these people. Okay, they're being hired, and
Speaker 4: on any business, if you hire somebody, how are you
Speaker 4: going to know if they actually do the job you
Speaker 4: hired them too? So they're watching them. They've got camra
Speaker 4: of people around while these protests are going on, and
Speaker 4: they're looking to make sure that the people they hired
Speaker 4: are actually protesting.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: Sure, and look, I've seen a lot of reports. I've
Speaker 1: seen a lot of reporting at a lot of these
Speaker 1: different demonstrations that have gone on in various parts of
Speaker 1: the country, and you've got reporters out there and they said, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, we had you know, they'll be reporting from
Speaker 1: the scene and they'll be a twenty minutes ago, we
Speaker 1: had several thousand people here and then we got to
Speaker 1: the top of the hour and it's, you know, either
Speaker 1: eight o'clock or nine o'clock at night, and it was
Speaker 1: like it was quitting time, and everybody left. Oh, well,
Speaker 1: I think that's what go ahead.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I also think that they're also told if they do
Speaker 4: extra things while protesting, they'll get paid a bonus.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: You know what, I don't know about that. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: I would not put that past them. And there there's
Speaker 1: actually a lot of.
Speaker 4: Sense to me, and I think that's why this you
Speaker 4: this woman was using her car, putting on even more
Speaker 4: of what she was asked to do, knowing that she
Speaker 4: would probably get a bonus check on that.
Speaker 1: Well, there's actually there's actually a narrative that is out
Speaker 1: there about this, and it's it's a it's a I
Speaker 1: would say, it's it's a bit of speculation, but giving
Speaker 1: given the information that we're learning about these two and
Speaker 1: and what they're patting in. The New York Post wrote,
Speaker 1: I'm going to refer to this in a in a moment,
Speaker 1: but there's a narrative about this that her partner was
Speaker 1: it was out of the car with her iPhone in hand,
Speaker 1: recording everything, and so the narrative is they were hoping
Speaker 1: to get in the cold good get to the point
Speaker 1: where she was going to be dragged out of the
Speaker 1: car and then roughed up by ice agents and they
Speaker 1: were going to use this as propaganda video to say, oh,
Speaker 1: look they're you know, they're they're beating up innocent women.
Speaker 1: You know they they said, women didn't do anything, and
Speaker 1: she's getting the crap beat out of her, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, she for whatever reason, she decided to uh
Speaker 1: make a different move and step on the gas and
Speaker 1: and try and plow down that that ice agent, and
Speaker 1: it didn't work out in her favor.
Speaker 4: That's my point. If they do extra and go above
Speaker 4: and beyond just protesting, I think their promise a bonus.
Speaker 4: Well only this time at Blackfire.
Speaker 1: Well, Rex, maybe next time you should reply to one
Speaker 1: of those posts on Craigslist and see what you can
Speaker 1: find out and then report back.
Speaker 4: I don't know how to work at the computer. When
Speaker 4: it comes to that, I'm I'm talking on his cell phone.
Speaker 1: God bless you. Rex. Appreciate the phone call. I have
Speaker 1: a great night tonight. There you go. That was Rex
Speaker 1: in Indiana. Hey, I feel your brother when you talk
Speaker 1: about looking at the computer. But here's what the New
Speaker 1: York Posts had to say about this. Renee Nicole Good,
Speaker 1: the mama was killed by a federal agent after veering
Speaker 1: her car towards him, was an anti ice warrior and
Speaker 1: was part of a group of activists who worked to
Speaker 1: document and resist the federal immigration crackdown in Minnesota. Good,
Speaker 1: who moved to the city last year, linked up with
Speaker 1: anti ice activists through her six year old son's Wolke
Speaker 1: Charter School, which boasts that it puts social justice first
Speaker 1: and prioritizes quote involving kids in political and social activism.
Speaker 1: If you're sending your six year old to school, what
Speaker 1: is six russ When you're six years old? What are you?
Speaker 1: First grade? First grade? Second grade? First grade? Do you
Speaker 1: want your first grader going to the school that prioritizes
Speaker 1: social justice and political activism. Is that what you send
Speaker 1: you That's what she sent her kid to school for.
Speaker 1: According to The New York Post, she was a warrior.
Speaker 1: She died doing what was right. A mother named Lisa,
Speaker 1: whose child attends the same school, told the Post at
Speaker 1: a growing visual where Good was killed on Wednesday, I
Speaker 1: know she was doing the right thing. I watched the
Speaker 1: video plenty of times. But I also know in my
Speaker 1: heart the woman she was, and she was doing everything right.
Speaker 1: Good and her wife, Rebecca forty, were raised. They raised
Speaker 1: the boy together in the mostly working class, activist heavy
Speaker 1: neighborhood in South Minneapolis features tree lined streets and a
Speaker 1: large number of homes with windows decked out in LGBTQ
Speaker 1: plus flags or signs depicting George Floyd, just as many
Speaker 1: others did in the lefty enclave. Good sent her son
Speaker 1: to South Side Family Charter School, a K through five
Speaker 1: academy that is unabashedly dedicated to social justice education. According
Speaker 1: to the founder, Susie Appini, it was thought her involvement
Speaker 1: in the school community that Good became involved in the
Speaker 1: Ice Watch, a loose coalition of activists dedicated to disrupting
Speaker 1: ice raids in the sanctuary city, and so who encourages
Speaker 1: this activity, Well, that would be the mayor of Minneapolis
Speaker 1: and the governor of Minnesota. They are all about these
Speaker 1: people interfering and disrupting and getting in the way of
Speaker 1: these federal law enforcement officers carrying out their duties. From
Speaker 1: my understanding, she was involved in social justice. Were a
Speaker 1: tight knit community, A lot of parents are activists. Former
Speaker 1: Southside Gym teacher Rashid Rich, who resigned from the school
Speaker 1: last month, told the Post. He said current event topics
Speaker 1: like the killing of George Floyd were regular parts of
Speaker 1: the curricult one that last month, students took a field
Speaker 1: trip where they learned about Aboriginal issues, a reference to
Speaker 1: indigenous people and far away Australia. Why that's pertinent in Minnesota,
Speaker 1: I have no idea. Coalitions similar to ice Watch have
Speaker 1: cropped up all over the country, with activists using phone apps,
Speaker 1: whistles and car horns to warn neighbors of when ice
Speaker 1: shows up. So you've got these groups all over the country,
Speaker 1: and apparently this woman was a mover and a shaker
Speaker 1: within the group that she was aligned with. Ice Watch
Speaker 1: recently shared an Instagram post on the group. The groups
Speaker 1: that encourage agitators to bring items that would help them
Speaker 1: barricade the streets. And that's another thing. I was watching
Speaker 1: Laura Ingram last night and she was there in Minneapolis
Speaker 1: and the Twin Cities, and she made the point that,
Speaker 1: you know, these people, what do they do. They love
Speaker 1: open borders. They want illegals streaming into, not not streaming into,
Speaker 1: flooding into the United States, illegals all over the place.
Speaker 1: Perfectly fine with them. They're perfectly fine with all the
Speaker 1: fraud of the daycare centers and all the rest of it.
Speaker 1: And then she noticed how they had their barricades there
Speaker 1: and how they protected their own borders, how they really
Speaker 1: didn't want people who weren't like them coming around to
Speaker 1: ask questions or take pictures or take videos or maybe
Speaker 1: have anyone that had a different idea than them. Don't
Speaker 1: want to answer those pesky questions, and they actually policed
Speaker 1: those borders, keeping people out, you know, the kind of
Speaker 1: people that they don't want. So borders are okay for them,
Speaker 1: but when it comes to America and the rest of us,
Speaker 1: not so much. When Renee Good hit an ICE agent
Speaker 1: in Minneapolis yesterday, it was the first time ICE agents
Speaker 1: where the targets of the It was not the first
Speaker 1: time ICE agents where the vehicles or the targets of
Speaker 1: vehicle rammings cars are deadly weapons. There's plenty of legal
Speaker 1: precedent to justify the ICE agent shooting good after she
Speaker 1: struck him with her vehicle. In the last year, ICE
Speaker 1: and Customs and Border Patrol agents have been involved in
Speaker 1: more than one hundred such incidents. Federal Immigration officers were
Speaker 1: injured in Saint Paul, Minnesota after a Cuban illegal rammed
Speaker 1: ICE vehicles and struck agents. During the violent encounter on Sunday,
Speaker 1: ICE officers identified Juan Carlos Rodriguez from Marrow and the
Speaker 1: illegal alien from Cuba entered a white suv in Saint Paul, Minnesota.
Speaker 1: Conducted and there was a lawful traffic stop that was conducted.
Speaker 1: When officers ordered Rameri to rolled out his window, he
Speaker 1: allegedly refused, prompting warnings that they would break the window
Speaker 1: if he continued to disobey lawful commands. Instead, Ramera drove
Speaker 1: off and allegedly struck one of the officers while attempting
Speaker 1: to flee. Here's another one. In October, an armed woman
Speaker 1: was arrested after ramming agents in the Chicago area. In
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, a man is facing prison time after ramming
Speaker 1: his vehicle into federal law enforcement agents. So there's all
Speaker 1: kinds of video out there of these incidents where they
Speaker 1: are using cars to disrupt and ram and injure federal agents.
Speaker 1: So this whole notion that she was using her car
Speaker 1: as a weapon trying to disrupt or hurt or maybe
Speaker 1: even kill a federal agent is not something that is
Speaker 1: far fetched at all, because it happens all the time.
Speaker 1: Amandro is car into the gate of an FBI facility
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh in September and November, Department of Homeland Security
Speaker 1: said ICE and CPB, we're facing an unprecedented search in
Speaker 1: vehicle rammings and attacks. In a statement, Department of Homeland
Speaker 1: Security wrote, we are seeing the results of the left
Speaker 1: constant demonization of the men and women of law enforcement.
Speaker 1: Dangerous criminals, whether they be illegal, aliens or US citizens,
Speaker 1: are turning their vehicles in the weapons attacking ICE and CBP.
Speaker 1: Said Trish McLaughlin, Assisted Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.
Speaker 1: Anyone who attacks law enforcement, especially using their vehicles, will
Speaker 1: be prosecuted to the fallistics end of the law. Since
Speaker 1: January twentieth, there have been ninety nine vehicle attacks against
Speaker 1: federal law enforcement, more than double compared to the forty
Speaker 1: seven during the same period last year. Seventy one vehicular
Speaker 1: attacks against the Customs and Border Patrol since January twentieth
Speaker 1: compared to forty five during the same time in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four. That is a fifty eight percent increase. Twenty
Speaker 1: eight vehicular attacks against ice since January compared to just
Speaker 1: two the same period of twenty twenty four. That is
Speaker 1: a thirteen hundred percent increase. So do you think that
Speaker 1: when these law enforcement professionals have their daily briefings and
Speaker 1: they go out and talk about things before they go
Speaker 1: out into the field and conduct these operations, do you
Speaker 1: think they might talk about that. Do you think that
Speaker 1: they are not keenly aware of these individuals who would
Speaker 1: use their vehicles to attack them. I would think they are.
Speaker 1: I would certainly hope they are, and I would think
Speaker 1: that this is something that is foremost on their mind.
Speaker 1: And then we had this from Rachel Maddow, who is
Speaker 1: just just a complete idiot. Rachel Maddow says protesters in
Speaker 1: America are close to being an unstoppable force against Trump.
Speaker 1: So when when someone like Mattow goes out there and
Speaker 1: says stuff like this, is that inciting violence and reckless behavior?
Speaker 1: Is that rallying the troops to whatever leftist liberal cause
Speaker 1: that they have. And I don't know where she comes
Speaker 1: up with this, but she says, once you have three
Speaker 1: point five percent of a population protesting against a dick
Speaker 1: or an authoritarian, that is essentially an unstoppable force they
Speaker 1: can't oppose. So she is calling for three point five
Speaker 1: percent of the American people to take to the streets
Speaker 1: and actively protest and demonstrate and become an unstoppable force
Speaker 1: against Trump, because, according to her, he's an authoritarian and
Speaker 1: a dictator. I'm looking at the video now coming in
Speaker 1: from Minneapolis, and they are in front of a building.
Speaker 1: It looks like a I don't know if it's a
Speaker 1: federal building, but it's a building that has some large,
Speaker 1: large plate glass windows in it. The whole front of
Speaker 1: the building, it looks like the entrance to the foyer
Speaker 1: area of this building. You've got multiple sets of double doors.
Speaker 1: The whole front facade is all glass, and there are
Speaker 1: people pounding on the glass as we speak. So will
Speaker 1: that glass be intact in I don't know, ten minutes
Speaker 1: from now, fifteen minutes from now, an hour from now,
Speaker 1: come tomorrow morning. There is increase pounding on the glass.
Speaker 1: So that's what's happening in Minneapolis right now. So we'll
Speaker 1: keep you updated on that. Of course, you got guys
Speaker 1: with cameras. Hey, this this is going to be well
Speaker 1: documented from a video standpoint, because you've got people outn't.
Speaker 1: I have no idea what building they are in front of,
Speaker 1: but Fox News is saying protesters gathering for another night
Speaker 1: of protest, and there are multiple It's it's like it
Speaker 1: looks like Russ. You ever watch The Walking Dead? You know,
Speaker 1: you know, you got those scenes in The Walking Dead
Speaker 1: where all the all the zombies are are coming after
Speaker 1: people and they're in a building and they're kind of well,
Speaker 1: you know, like walking up to the glass and they're
Speaker 1: you know, their hands are all all over the glass
Speaker 1: and all that. That's kind of what that shot I
Speaker 1: just saw kind of reminded me of that. But no,
Speaker 1: I was talking about all the attacks on Ice Way
Speaker 1: and I got to get to a break. Now let's
Speaker 1: go go ahead, Well we will go ahead and do
Speaker 1: that now, but no November thirteenth, criminal illegal alien Fremil
Speaker 1: Salvador hit another vehicle, fled the scene before being apprehended
Speaker 1: by Ice. And this just goes on to document the
Speaker 1: incidents where you have these federal agents who are coming
Speaker 1: under attack with people in their vehicles, but coming up
Speaker 1: after the news top of the hour, Kurt Hartman's going
Speaker 1: to be here, and the news broke last night about
Speaker 1: the city manager of Cincinnati wanting to enter into a
Speaker 1: settlement with the family of Rodney Hinton. Absolutely despicable, shameful
Speaker 1: my way of thinking, there's no way this should be happening.
Speaker 1: And there's all kinds of other stuff going on at Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: We'll get the judges thoughts on that as we roll
Speaker 1: on till midnight tonight. It is Dan Carrolyn for Sterling
Speaker 1: on this Friday night on seven hundred WLW seven hundred
Speaker 1: WLW ten O seven, Dan Carolyn for Sterling tonight. Glad
Speaker 1: to be here Sterling, taking a little time off. I'll
Speaker 1: be here tomorrow, Hey Gary, Jeff Walker in the morning.
Speaker 1: Gotta be a great day, so stick around for that. Meantime.
Speaker 1: We go on till midnight tonight. Russ Jackson's running the
Speaker 1: big board. Appreciate him being here five one, three, seven, four, nine,
Speaker 1: seven thousand if you want to get on board. Although
Speaker 1: I do have a guest right now, and we say
Speaker 1: hello to the one time Hamilton County common please Court
Speaker 1: Judge Kurt Hartman and Kurt Great. Happy New year to
Speaker 1: you man. I think this is the first time I've
Speaker 1: had John in twenty twenty six. The heck are you?
Speaker 3: I'm doing very well, Dan, great and always great to
Speaker 3: be with you.
Speaker 1: Great to great to be with you. Let me ask you.
Speaker 1: And I was talking about this last night with Ken Kober.
Speaker 1: He he had a source at city Hall who told
Speaker 1: him that he needed to get this information out, that
Speaker 1: he needed to act in order to stop this. And
Speaker 1: and you know stop what, well stop this idea of
Speaker 1: a settlement that was going to go to the family
Speaker 1: of Rodney Hinton and Ryan Hinton right in Himton, the
Speaker 1: eighteen year old shot and killed by a Cincinnati police officer.
Speaker 1: Then the next day the father goes out and plows
Speaker 1: down Larry Henderson, Hamilton County Sheriff's deputy, ending his life.
Speaker 1: And the idea wait, when I mean from from a
Speaker 1: legal perspective, how how do how does the city manager
Speaker 1: come up with this notion that somehow a settlement is
Speaker 1: going to be necessary here when the investigations into this
Speaker 1: have cleared this police officer of any wrongdoing whatsoever. How
Speaker 1: do how do you come up with this idea that,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe a few million dollars needs to be
Speaker 1: paid out to this family.
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I think because unfortunately, we're now living, if you will,
Speaker 7: in the world turned upside down when it comes to
Speaker 7: radical Marxist progressives taking control of city governments.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 7: You know, you see what's going on out in Portland,
Speaker 7: you see what's going on in Minneapolis St.
Speaker 3: Paul, And we have that same type of elected leadership
Speaker 3: here in Cincinnati.
Speaker 7: Now, granted they have not gone so radical as some
Speaker 7: of those cities, but.
Speaker 3: When you look at.
Speaker 7: We are where we are, you look where theyor parvel,
Speaker 7: where you look at the city council members, where they
Speaker 7: have been historically, you know, and where that the whole
Speaker 7: Democratic Party, both nationally and locally, has gone. They have
Speaker 7: this Marxist progressive eyeude, and here we have all this
Speaker 7: poor black guy was shot. Forget the fact he had
Speaker 7: a gun, pointed it at an officer and was shot
Speaker 7: and killed by the officer, and even the Democratic county prosecutor,
Speaker 7: Countie Pillage, said it was a justified shoot. You know,
Speaker 7: but nothing prevents anybody from suing. You'll say someone's civil
Speaker 7: rights were violated, et cetera. So you know, yeah, they
Speaker 7: might be having a you know, the hidden family maybe
Speaker 7: chest counting all.
Speaker 3: We're going to sue. We're going to sue. But I'm
Speaker 3: sorting if you fold.
Speaker 7: Every time, you know, you get threats like that, you're
Speaker 7: gonna get sued left and right. There are certain cases,
Speaker 7: you know, I do civil rights things really from a
Speaker 7: plaint of side, but there are certain cases that the
Speaker 7: governments should be fighting. And it's separating that week from
Speaker 7: the champ. What are the cases that should be fault
Speaker 7: so you don't get a reputation of folding versus the cases.
Speaker 3: That, okay, yeah there were some issues. We need to
Speaker 3: get a result in this case.
Speaker 7: Nothing is shot crying out that, hey, the city may
Speaker 7: have this city may have some liability. Nothing shoot shoe,
Speaker 7: you know, pointing to that. So what you've got driving
Speaker 7: you know, if this is accurate, and you know, I
Speaker 7: don't have any reason, uh to doubt Kencobra or his source.
Speaker 7: But if you know, if this is going on, these negotiations,
Speaker 7: it is just this radical Marxist politics of you know,
Speaker 7: dee I, you know, diversity, the equity, inclusion and you know,
Speaker 7: white privilege, et cetera, all.
Speaker 3: Driving into policy decisions. We've seen this already.
Speaker 7: You know, even in the recent history with the City
Speaker 7: of Cincinnati, they are paying eight million dollars in a
Speaker 7: settlement to people who were rioting in the city of Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and then yeah, I mean the word of
Speaker 1: this settlement comes on the heels of the of that
Speaker 1: one being a unanimously I might add, by by city
Speaker 1: council and I think it was I think it was
Speaker 1: Scottie Johnson who said, uh, you know, we can't as
Speaker 1: a city send the message out that you can come
Speaker 1: here commit crimes and then get paid for it. And
Speaker 1: then right after he said that, he went in and
Speaker 1: voted for the approval of this settlement. So so we
Speaker 1: do that we send that message. In my opinion, that
Speaker 1: is the exact message that we are sending. And now
Speaker 1: we're talking about you know, I haven't seen a dollar
Speaker 1: figure attached to this, but it's probably it's going to
Speaker 1: be in the probably close to a million, maybe more
Speaker 1: than a million. But now we're saying that if you're
Speaker 1: a cop killer, we are going to make sure that
Speaker 1: your family is made whole. I mean, what what what
Speaker 1: are we thinking? What? What is? What? How can anybody
Speaker 1: be thinking that this is the kind of message that
Speaker 1: you want to send out? We had protests last night
Speaker 1: in downtown Cincinnati, you know what I mean? These people
Speaker 1: they had to be out there saying, uh, you know
Speaker 1: what do I fill out a form? Am I going
Speaker 1: to get a text message? You know? When do I
Speaker 1: get my windfall of you know, maybe maybe five or
Speaker 1: six or eight grand?
Speaker 3: You know, and let's see that. And I'm going to
Speaker 3: be doing public records. Puss.
Speaker 7: Did those protesters last night have a parade permit to
Speaker 7: take over the streets?
Speaker 1: I don't think they did, or I don't think And
Speaker 1: then and then the Signal ninety nine was on the
Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Show on fifty five earlier this morning, and
Speaker 1: Signal ninety nine was talking about the information that she
Speaker 1: has is that the day that that that Rodney hitting
Speaker 1: lost his mind was you know, the the the police
Speaker 1: came to him and and as a favor to the
Speaker 1: family before it got out into the public. They said,
Speaker 1: this is the video. This is your son running from
Speaker 1: the cop, dropping the weapon, picking it up, pointing at police.
Speaker 1: That's why police shot and killed.
Speaker 3: Right, I have no problems. Yeah, well I have no
Speaker 3: problems with city officials sharing that problem and.
Speaker 1: I I don't either. But the information is when that
Speaker 1: video was shown that that Rodney hitting Junior took a
Speaker 1: swing to the police chief, so that that is a
Speaker 1: crime right there. So instead of arresting him, just let
Speaker 1: him go, you know, you know, cool, cool off a
Speaker 1: little bit, and then he goes over and uh and
Speaker 1: ends the life of Larry Henderson.
Speaker 7: I mean, and you got Iris Rolly sticking her nose
Speaker 7: in all of that businesses.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the other component of this. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's it seems that I mean, if and look, I mean,
Speaker 1: all these things are going to be looked at. And
Speaker 1: there was information out there today that Iris Rolly was
Speaker 1: on the scene when Rodney Hitton was killed, interfering with
Speaker 1: the police investigation, coaching people who may have been witnesses,
Speaker 1: all the rest of it.
Speaker 3: You mean, when when Deputy Henderson was killed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Deputy Henderson, Yeah, yes, And then this is the
Speaker 1: kind of information and.
Speaker 7: Uh, it actually had her in the police car because
Speaker 7: she was interfering with the investigation. I'm sorry you I
Speaker 7: ed do anything like that. We're being arrested and charged
Speaker 7: with a phone appropriately. So why do we have a
Speaker 7: double standard that Iris Rolly gets a blank check by
Speaker 7: this city administration to interfere with law.
Speaker 3: Enforcement and doing their jobs.
Speaker 7: And the reason is we've got leadership in the city
Speaker 7: of Cincinnati that is no different than the leadership in Minneapolis, Portland, Oregon, wherever.
Speaker 1: But they're they're paying. They're paying her six hundred grand
Speaker 1: through I think twenty twenty six. She's got a contract
Speaker 1: with the city. I think. I think in the this
Speaker 1: this may turn out to be one of the biggest
Speaker 1: scandals this city has ever had. Well, I think, well,
Speaker 1: it just it just looks. It looks terrible. It looks
Speaker 1: I mean, it looks like we have a city manager
Speaker 1: that is completely incompetent. It looks like the only the
Speaker 1: only problem solving skill this city manager has is to
Speaker 1: dig into the treasury and just shovel out as much
Speaker 1: money as she possibly can.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, let's look at two things.
Speaker 7: When Sherlong was incompetent to be city manager, from day one.
Speaker 3: She was a DEI hire for political correctness for this mayor.
Speaker 7: No other requalification did she have, and she has confirmed
Speaker 7: her incompetence from day one.
Speaker 3: I think the second thing, I forget where I was
Speaker 3: going to go with this. But oh Dan, though, look
Speaker 3: at this.
Speaker 7: Though we all knew the general gist of the lack
Speaker 7: of leadership, about the radical politics of the city leadership,
Speaker 7: both the city Council and the mayor.
Speaker 3: And what did the people of Cincinnati do.
Speaker 7: Re elect this mayor with eighty percent of the vote,
Speaker 7: and reelect eight out of nine of the council members
Speaker 7: and put the others for progressive only because ninth one
Speaker 7: wasn't running for re election, and they put this another
Speaker 7: you know, far left progressive on city council. This is
Speaker 7: what the people of Cincinnati just voted for. And I'm sorry,
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, you know, thankfully I don't live in the
Speaker 7: city of Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: I would never want to.
Speaker 7: Live in the city of Cincinnati the way it is
Speaker 7: being governed right now, and it is not going in
Speaker 7: the right direction.
Speaker 3: And you know, but one thing also, you know that
Speaker 3: kind of pop pause and look at this, you know, I.
Speaker 7: Kind of say, where is the business leadership in all
Speaker 7: of this, you know, yea, you know they're they're they're
Speaker 7: that an organization.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you're familiar with it or not, the.
Speaker 7: Cincinnati Business Committee. Yes, yeah, you know, and you know
Speaker 7: I was just looking at that. They're basically they're how
Speaker 7: they described themselves. The see it's called the CDC, the
Speaker 7: Cincinnati Business Committe. It's an organization of chief executives of
Speaker 7: the Greater Cincinnati aut of area committed to identifying and
Speaker 7: providing leadership on selected issues that the members consider especially
Speaker 7: important to the long term economic, vitality.
Speaker 3: And well being of the greater Cincinnati community.
Speaker 7: It's like the cream of the crop, if you will,
Speaker 7: of business leadership. Top thirty, you know, no more than thirty,
Speaker 7: the top thirty leaderships.
Speaker 3: We're talking you know, P and G. It used to
Speaker 3: be P and G. Macy's fifth thirds.
Speaker 1: Those type of leaders.
Speaker 3: Where where the heck are they?
Speaker 1: That's a good question.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, you know, someone we've got to start.
Speaker 7: Calling them out. I mean, I give you John Barrett
Speaker 7: has come out a little bit and spoke a little
Speaker 7: bit about this recently or a couple of months ago,
Speaker 7: But they've to be more vocal. I'm sorry that they
Speaker 7: want to talk about the economic vitality of the greater
Speaker 7: Cincinnati area, and Cincinnati is the core, and that's critical
Speaker 7: the business community. The business leadership is absent. So what
Speaker 7: we have is an absence of leadership on the political side,
Speaker 7: and we have an absence of leadership on the business side.
Speaker 1: And then the mayor is the mayor has the hutzba.
Speaker 1: Earlier this week at the inauguration, during his inaugural address,
Speaker 1: this says this makes it, decides that's a fine time
Speaker 1: to advocate for a tax increase, and essentially says, hey,
Speaker 1: look we we We've had all this talk about city
Speaker 1: safety and policing and getting our act together and all
Speaker 1: the rest of it. And then he says, you want
Speaker 1: city safety, We're gonna need some more money. I mean
Speaker 1: that absolutely despicable. And at the same time he's able
Speaker 1: to turn down free help from the from the state
Speaker 1: and the Ohio State and all and Governor de Wine
Speaker 1: and when you know, when he did do it, that
Speaker 1: would just do it a couple of days a week,
Speaker 1: and then he comes and says, look, we're gonna have
Speaker 1: public safety. We need more money, no.
Speaker 7: You know, and to circle back to the whole hint
Speaker 7: in this potential settlement that that's happening, you know, behind
Speaker 7: closed doors. You know what message does that send to
Speaker 7: the rank and file police?
Speaker 1: Oh it's ken kber is just besides I look, I've
Speaker 1: talked to ken kbra a lot, and uh, I've never
Speaker 1: seen him this agitated about a particular issue. It is
Speaker 1: an absolute disgraceful slap in the face not only the
Speaker 1: Cincinnati police, but the Hamilton County Sheriff's deputies as well.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, you know, but but when you when you
Speaker 3: have the mayor and the city manager essentially throwing law
Speaker 3: enforcement under the bus.
Speaker 7: You know, they did it already with that riot settlement,
Speaker 7: that eight million dollar settlement to people who were breaking
Speaker 7: the wall and got arrested, the city's paying them off.
Speaker 7: And now if this is going forward with the heat
Speaker 7: and san family on a justified shooting that the Democratic
Speaker 7: prosecutor said was a justified shooting, what type of leadership
Speaker 7: is that providing you want to talk about law enforcement
Speaker 7: and public safety, that undermines.
Speaker 3: It from the get go.
Speaker 1: Well, and a look, I don't know, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know any of the people who are involved in
Speaker 1: the in the in the law office, the legal office
Speaker 1: down at City Hall that that advises the city manager
Speaker 1: on these issues. But but I see these interviews from
Speaker 1: from whoever speaks to the media from that particular office,
Speaker 1: and they always talk about, well, we could go to court,
Speaker 1: we could be facing a big jury settlement. You know,
Speaker 1: typically in cases like this, they get you know, they
Speaker 1: get thirty million dollars and we're only going to pay
Speaker 1: eight million dollars. So this is this is really a
Speaker 1: good deal. And I'm like, no, no, it's not a
Speaker 1: good deal. Look at the facts. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: there no one was at fault when John Cranley issued
Speaker 1: that curfew and told people not to be on the
Speaker 1: streets back in twenty twenty, and no one was at
Speaker 1: fault at least a Cincinnati police officer in the Cincinnati
Speaker 1: Police Department was not at fault when this young eighteen
Speaker 1: year old kid ran from them, Ryan Hinton Junior, and
Speaker 1: pointed a gun at a Cincinnati cop and paid for
Speaker 1: it with his life.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and let me go this back from my days
Speaker 7: on the back. I mean, I've been practicing law for
Speaker 7: thirty years now, right in my time on the bench,
Speaker 7: Cincinnati Jurrys.
Speaker 3: Hamilton County jurys have not been very.
Speaker 7: Plain and friendly in terms of verdict towards. Now, granted
Speaker 7: that's been a few years. The dynamics of the whole
Speaker 7: county has really changed dramatically, you know, with this hard
Speaker 7: left progressive attitude taking over.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's changed a little bit.
Speaker 7: But historically Hamilton County jurys do not give big awards
Speaker 7: in cases.
Speaker 3: So if they're worried about all, we might be. Yeah, maybe,
Speaker 3: but you know what, recognize where.
Speaker 7: You're playing, you know where you're trying a case at,
Speaker 7: and the reputation is a plaint of friendly jury, and
Speaker 7: when you deal with the facts that you just laid out,
Speaker 7: both in terms of the Rioters and Hinton, I'd be
Speaker 7: hard pressed to see it even going.
Speaker 3: To a jury. I could see a judge throwing it
Speaker 3: out in a heartbeat thing there is no case here. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there's nothing for the jury to decide. If go to
Speaker 3: the jury, the jurors are not going to award a
Speaker 3: big number.
Speaker 1: I would I would think.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: The whole notion that you're going to pay off the
Speaker 1: family of a of a cop killer just uh it
Speaker 1: it it I just I just I still can't get
Speaker 1: my head around that particular idea. Before I let you go, though,
Speaker 1: Charlie luken Was did an interview with the Cincinnati Enquirer
Speaker 1: and he is telling city Hall, hey, look, you've got
Speaker 1: that one point six billion dollars from the railroad settlement.
Speaker 1: It's time to start spending some of that money. Now
Speaker 1: what Yeah, I mean you were you were involved in this. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's this whole one point six million billion dollars. And
Speaker 1: Charlie Looking is saying, look, man, yeah, you've only spent
Speaker 1: I think what four point five million, and you've already realized,
Speaker 1: you know, you're gonna get more than twenty six million
Speaker 1: a year. And I mean, you know, the numbers are
Speaker 1: all over the place, but you know what, what is
Speaker 1: going on with this money? I mean, are we gonna
Speaker 1: wind up having a problem with this now that we
Speaker 1: you know, we have all this money rolling in this
Speaker 1: well from this one point six billion dollars. And Charlie
Speaker 1: Looking is saying, look, it's time to start spending some
Speaker 1: of this. The streets are terrible around here.
Speaker 7: And the thing is, and the scary part is, I
Speaker 7: don't trust a half cap purevelle. I don't say Sarah
Speaker 7: long with any money. But what are they what are
Speaker 7: they holding this money for?
Speaker 3: Where do they look? You know, what what is their conspiracy?
Speaker 3: If you will, you know, if you.
Speaker 7: Will, just screw over the people of Cincinnati, because they
Speaker 7: really don't have I think the people of Cincinnati at
Speaker 7: their pride, their primary interest. And unfortunately those same people
Speaker 7: re elected them, or reelected that mayor, Parvel, re elected
Speaker 7: any counties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, they're they're reaping.
Speaker 7: What they're sewing. But hey, you get the government they
Speaker 7: voted for. And I'm sorry, I would not be proud
Speaker 7: of this type of government.
Speaker 1: They spent twenty six point eight million of the eighty
Speaker 1: five million they've received so far the railway month, the
Speaker 1: railroad money, well.
Speaker 3: I know there are plenty of potholes throughout the city.
Speaker 1: Absolutely that you know, nothing done.
Speaker 7: It's a lack of leader I've always said it is
Speaker 7: a lack of leadership from the mayor.
Speaker 3: Is a lack of leadership from the city manager. They
Speaker 3: don't have leadership skills.
Speaker 1: Charlie Lucan says, he comes up Sixth Street, he feels
Speaker 1: like he's on a bumper car ride.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what charl Lucan, a Democrat, that's Charli Lukan's
Speaker 7: a Democrat, you know. But Charli Lucan is, if you will,
Speaker 7: a historical He's historically a democratic.
Speaker 1: He's at Cincinnati kind of democrat that was a fiscally
Speaker 1: conservative and maybe uh, you know, socially a you know,
Speaker 1: a little bit off to the left. But yeah, but
Speaker 1: he knew Brisklaster.
Speaker 7: And Charlie is not, was not and is not has
Speaker 7: not drank the Marxist progressive kool aid.
Speaker 1: Thank god, he's got away with words. Feels like a
Speaker 1: bumper car ride. That's pretty good.
Speaker 3: There we go.
Speaker 1: Hey, Kurt, I appreciate the chat tonight, man. I know
Speaker 1: you're you're on vacation, and happy new Year to you
Speaker 1: and all the best. And we will definitely be having
Speaker 1: some conversations in twenty twenty six and I always look
Speaker 1: forward to that.
Speaker 3: Great always great to be with you.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Dan. All right, there you go, Kurt Hartman,
Speaker 1: enjoy your vacation. I appreciate the time. Ten twenty six.
Speaker 1: We're going to get to a break and news coming
Speaker 1: up at the bottom of the hour, and if you
Speaker 1: want to pick up the phone five one three, seven
Speaker 1: four nine seven thousand, one eight hundred, The Big One
Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW. Tig got the Big One seven
Speaker 1: hundred WLW ten thirty six going on till midnight tonight,
Speaker 1: Dan Carolyn for Sterling, So h A lot of the
Speaker 1: stuff that Sterling talks about we are not talking about tonight.
Speaker 1: So that's just that's just the way it breaks down.
Speaker 1: Sterling talks about a lot of stuff that I don't
Speaker 1: talk about, which is perfectly fine. Ah Man, did you
Speaker 1: know there was another incident involving ice in Portland, Oregon
Speaker 1: that happened. I want to say it was a day
Speaker 1: before yesterday and there was a couple of suspects in
Speaker 1: a car that this was another ramming of and this
Speaker 1: was not ICE agents but CPB Customs and Border Patrol.
Speaker 1: And just a little while ago, the Portland Police Chief
Speaker 1: came out with a statement and confirmed what the Department
Speaker 1: of Homeland Security said about this from the very beginning.
Speaker 1: There were two suspects in this case, and they confirmed
Speaker 1: that the suspects are connected to the Venezuelan gang trend
Speaker 1: de Argua and they're implicated in a July twenty twenty
Speaker 1: five shooting in Portland, Oregon. This was not an innocent
Speaker 1: married couple despite what Democrats and many of much of
Speaker 1: the left wing media had to say about this event,
Speaker 1: and the chief was talking about this and the city said,
Speaker 1: shame on the politicians who spread false information to stoke
Speaker 1: fear and under my law enforcement score political points. So
Speaker 1: these individuals who did this in Portland definitely ow an
Speaker 1: apology for their for their behavior on this. I mean,
Speaker 1: it is absolutely this is trumped arrangement syndrome. It is
Speaker 1: absolutely sick and disgusting, and it really has just gone
Speaker 1: so far over the edge when you look. I mean,
Speaker 1: politicians have never been, as a group the most honest
Speaker 1: people on the planet. I think we can all agree
Speaker 1: with that. But at least on matters of law and order,
Speaker 1: right and wrong, and when it comes to supporting law enforcement,
Speaker 1: I mean, can't we have at least some honesty there
Speaker 1: instead of trying to push a political narrative every time
Speaker 1: an incident takes place. I mean, it really just is disgusting.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Dan and Chevy and see what Dan's
Speaker 1: got tonight, Dan seven hundred wlwh No.
Speaker 5: This is Dan and Chevy and not Dan and Union.
Speaker 1: Dan and Chevy, I said, I said, Dan and Chevy.
Speaker 1: I think anyway I'm pretty sure you're all right, Bet
Speaker 1: you all right? What's going on?
Speaker 5: So tonight I was walking by at work and there
Speaker 5: was two guys discussing the Ice shooting and running over things.
Speaker 5: All right, One guy with the vet and he was like, look,
Speaker 5: it's pro you know, he's pro police. The other guy,
Speaker 5: nice guy, very sharp. He's like, well, it needs to
Speaker 5: be de escalation, blah blah blah. I asked him if
Speaker 5: he saw the whole video and need not. We showed
Speaker 5: him the video and he was so like upset that
Speaker 5: he was wrong and like brainwashing. He doubled down. He
Speaker 5: wanted to hate Ice so bad and like the escalation.
Speaker 5: So I was like, well, guns and cars both kill people.
Speaker 5: I said, cars killed more people than guns. I said, heck,
Speaker 5: we had a deputy in Cincinnati ran over by a guy. Like,
Speaker 5: there's proof right there. And those were your first two stories.
Speaker 5: I was like, well, perfect. And then another thing that
Speaker 5: a lot of people don't know is that same Ice
Speaker 5: guy that just got hit yeh had got hitting before
Speaker 5: and had thirty six something stitches. Yeah, so after I'm
Speaker 5: getting hit and getting thirty six stitches, I'm not waiting
Speaker 5: around for someone else to run.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean that that guy's got experienced, he knows,
Speaker 1: he knows how fast these things can get out of control.
Speaker 1: And we had we had if you remember, we had
Speaker 1: a Cincinnati police officer, and this goes back several years. Uh,
Speaker 1: Kevin Craon was his name, and he was in part
Speaker 1: of his traffic stop I want to say, was up
Speaker 1: in Mount Airy and uh and the and the I
Speaker 1: think there was a young person who was behind the
Speaker 1: wheel and may have been underage, and Kevin Crayon got
Speaker 1: tangled up with that vehicle and that driver took off,
Speaker 1: sped on down the road and Kevin Craon lost his
Speaker 1: wife because because of an incident involving a car. So
Speaker 1: it can happen very very quickly. And again you have
Speaker 1: that even less than a split second to make that decision.
Speaker 5: It's well, I just feel bad because the guy's a nice,
Speaker 5: sharp guy. He's just been something that's led and he
Speaker 5: wants to do something, but his energy's on the wrong place.
Speaker 5: So my whole point is cars kill more people than guns.
Speaker 5: Why is that treated different than pointing a gun?
Speaker 1: It's oh, you're absolutely right, now, how is it that
Speaker 1: that he was because that video you can't you can't
Speaker 1: open up your phone or log onto the internet without
Speaker 1: seeing that video. How is it that he was not
Speaker 1: able to see that video over the last three or
Speaker 1: four days or however long it's been. Oh, he hung
Speaker 1: up on me. They had I had us for good
Speaker 1: story though guy had not seen the video and only
Speaker 1: knew the narrative that he was hearing on whatever wherever
Speaker 1: he gets his news. And then when he saw the
Speaker 1: video realized that, you know what. But good for him.
Speaker 1: Good for him that he can realize that he had
Speaker 1: been processing not complete information the whole time. So a
Speaker 1: good call. Thanks for that call, Dan and Chevy. I
Speaker 1: appreciate that Donald Trump announced earlier today that he has
Speaker 1: called off a previously anticipated second wave of strikes on Venezuela,
Speaker 1: citing improved cooperation with the country's interim government. I think
Speaker 1: that's good news. The announcement comes just a week after
Speaker 1: the US operation that resulted in the capture and arrest
Speaker 1: of the Venezuelan dictator, Nicholas Mduro, and days after the
Speaker 1: President said a second attack was on the table if
Speaker 1: the new government did not behave So you folks and Venezuela,
Speaker 1: you've got to behave In a true social post, the
Speaker 1: President revealed he had canceled those strikes, saying the new
Speaker 1: government is now working well with the US on rebuilding
Speaker 1: its oil and gas infrastructure and releasing large numbers of
Speaker 1: political prisoners. President made clear, however, that he will maintain
Speaker 1: control over Venezuela for an undefined extended period of time
Speaker 1: until the country is fully stabilized. And you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I'm not sure I have and I've
Speaker 1: talked to a couple of different experts on this. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure I have a complete understanding of why this
Speaker 1: policy is being ruled out the way it is. Trump's
Speaker 1: announcement comes less than a day after he said strikes
Speaker 1: were being prepared against drug cartel facilities. Despite canceling the
Speaker 1: second wave of strikes, Trump said US naval assets would
Speaker 1: remain in place for the time being, which I guess
Speaker 1: is a good thing. There was another tanker that was seized.
Speaker 1: I had that, and I think this makes five tankers
Speaker 1: now that that have been seized by the military. I
Speaker 1: guess it's their joint operations. But the military seized a
Speaker 1: fifth tanker in the Caribbean Sea. They announced that earlier today.
Speaker 1: Marines and sailors from the Joint Task for Southern Spear
Speaker 1: launched from the Gerald R. Ford in a pre dawn
Speaker 1: operation apprehending the Oleina without incident. And Southern Command said
Speaker 1: the operation received support from the Navy's Amphibious Ready Group,
Speaker 1: including the USSE He would Regima San Antonio Fort Lauderdale.
Speaker 1: So once again, our joint our joint forceressent a clear
Speaker 1: message this morning. There is no safe haven for criminals,
Speaker 1: said the US Southern Command. Now let's see, here's what
Speaker 1: Christy Noam had to say about it. She put it
Speaker 1: out on x Early this morning, the Coastguard executed a
Speaker 1: boarding and seizure of the motor tanker Oleina in international
Speaker 1: waters east of the Caribbean as another ghost fleet tanker
Speaker 1: ship suspected of carrying and bargoed oil this vessel. This
Speaker 1: vessel had departed Venezuela attempting to evade US forces. A
Speaker 1: close coordination with the Department of War, State Department, Justice
Speaker 1: Department ensured a safe, effective boarding consistent with law. The
Speaker 1: ghost fleets will not outrun justice. They will not hide
Speaker 1: under false claims of nation. The Coastguard will seize sanctioned
Speaker 1: oil tankers and force US international law and eliminate these
Speaker 1: funding streams for illicit activity, including narco terrorism. We are
Speaker 1: deeply proud of the Coastguard in the Maritime Fighting Force
Speaker 1: for their relentless execution of this mission. This is owning
Speaker 1: the sea. And so there's some video some of that
Speaker 1: green greenia whatever that video comes. I guess maybe it's
Speaker 1: a drone, but it seems like the picture would be
Speaker 1: a lot better. I mean it's a you know, it
Speaker 1: kind of looks like like a negative on a photograph
Speaker 1: used to look not not the sharpest video that you
Speaker 1: will ever see. Let's go to Mason and say hey
Speaker 1: to Vince. Vince here on seven hundred WLW, what's.
Speaker 5: Up, Hey, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 3: I appreciate it.
Speaker 8: Hey Dice shooting that everybody's talking about in the video
Speaker 8: that's actually going around everybody's looking at Yeah.
Speaker 3: I got a chance.
Speaker 8: You look at the body cam today. The mississ didn't
Speaker 8: send it to me, and it gives a whole new
Speaker 8: meaning to the actual situation that I'm going to encourage
Speaker 8: anybody listening to go off with what people are telling you.
Speaker 8: Take a look at the actual body cam of that
Speaker 8: gentleman and seeing what he was actually going through before
Speaker 8: you start passing judgment on him, he actually stopped the
Speaker 8: criminal from running them over.
Speaker 1: Well, I was talking about that in the in the
Speaker 1: first hour of the show tonight, and I think it's interesting.
Speaker 1: Uh there's a did you see the version where the
Speaker 1: partner of the woman who who drove the car is
Speaker 1: talking to the ice agent there and saying, you want
Speaker 1: to come at us, you want to come at us,
Speaker 1: you better pack a lunch. Did you see that part?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 8: I did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So all that I think that that helps to
Speaker 1: or goes a long way and confirming this narrative that
Speaker 1: these people were agitators, that they were out there, as
Speaker 1: The New York Post reported as trained adjutive and individuals
Speaker 1: who were out there for the purpose of interfering with
Speaker 1: these uh, with these operations of these law enforcement officers.
Speaker 8: Definitely right on the button, my friend and the rest
Speaker 8: of these people that are saying that was a murder
Speaker 8: and everything else, Actually a murder was prevented because the
Speaker 8: young lady that was behind the wheel actually meant to
Speaker 8: do damage.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I didn't play I didn't play the audio of that
Speaker 1: on the show tonight because I just don't think it
Speaker 1: works on radio. I think you really have to see
Speaker 1: it and see what's going on, because you hear, you
Speaker 1: hear voices from off camera, you hear sirens, you hear
Speaker 1: you know, engines being revved up and things like that,
Speaker 1: and so it's it's I think from a context perspective,
Speaker 1: just hearing the audio doesn't really do justice. But you
Speaker 1: have to admit, Vincent, and I appreciate you calling on
Speaker 1: this that the moment the car makes it makes impact
Speaker 1: with that ice agent, that is very telling that that
Speaker 1: that officer got hit hard by that car. And I
Speaker 1: don't know, there's there's no denying that.
Speaker 8: I agree one hundred percent. And it's actually criminal the
Speaker 8: way that some of the politicians are trying to stow
Speaker 8: up more problems, trying to say that it is something
Speaker 8: it's not just to get more people agitated, more people
Speaker 8: to be aggressive.
Speaker 1: Well that's the problem. And they're and they're going to
Speaker 1: keep doing it because like I said, it's Trumped arrangement syndrome,
Speaker 1: and they and they want anything they can do to
Speaker 1: hurt Trump and and further their agenda is what they're
Speaker 1: going to do. And it doesn't matter if the truth
Speaker 1: is involved, it doesn't matter if someone is dead, It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if there there may be other people acting
Speaker 1: out in a way that could hurt them or hurt others.
Speaker 1: It's simply that's just collateral damage. As long as they're
Speaker 1: out there doing what they can and further into of
Speaker 1: their agenda, that's the only thing that matters. And it's
Speaker 1: it's really it's getting to a point where it's really sick.
Speaker 8: I agree one hundred percent. And things, unfortunately, are going
Speaker 8: to get more dangerous because we have I'm guessing about
Speaker 8: twenty percent of our nation that blindly follows because identity politics,
Speaker 8: what they're being told versus using the sense guy gave
Speaker 8: him and take a look at the actual facts.
Speaker 6: I'm an independent, I'm not on.
Speaker 8: The Republican side all the time, but I end up
Speaker 8: usually voting more conservatives by nature, because it only makes
Speaker 8: sense as to what's good best of this country. And
Speaker 8: these people need to get rid of the Trump the
Speaker 8: Trump's Drange sent them. That got going on just because
Speaker 8: they're being told by their leaders. They need to start
Speaker 8: thinking from themselves. Critical thinking is very.
Speaker 1: Important, Vince. I appreciate the phone call tonight. Take care brother,
Speaker 1: there you go. Well, good for Vincent Mason, A really
Speaker 1: good phone call right there, and a guy makes a
Speaker 1: ton of sense. And like I said, if you didn't
Speaker 1: hear the first hour of the show, I was talking
Speaker 1: about that that video that came out. I was in
Speaker 1: earlier today for Cunningham, and right towards the end of
Speaker 1: the Cunningham Show was when that video came out. So
Speaker 1: I didn't really have time to look at it and
Speaker 1: die jested and be able to talk about it in
Speaker 1: a meaningful way. But between shows tonight I was, I
Speaker 1: was at home. I looked at it multiple times, and
Speaker 1: it is It is very telling how that particular point
Speaker 1: of view drives home this notion that this was a
Speaker 1: very serious incident and all this stuff about we just
Speaker 1: could have shot the tires or jumped out of the
Speaker 1: way or done something miraculous. No, it doesn't work that way,
Speaker 1: doesn't work that way. What else is going on? Oh?
Speaker 1: I love that? I love the Scott Descent was on
Speaker 1: with Loura Ingram last night and they were talking about
Speaker 1: what's going on with the Somali welfare scan and so
Speaker 1: the Treasury Secretary has come up with a plan that
Speaker 1: that is going to help the American tax He says
Speaker 1: the the that we, the American citizens, it turns out,
Speaker 1: unbeknownst to us, are apparently the biggest funder of a
Speaker 1: terror organization linked to Al Qaeda, and Scott cent and
Speaker 1: Donald Trump say it's not going to happen anymore. So
Speaker 1: here's what Scottsent, speaking on Fox News Thursday night, announced
Speaker 1: that those who were on public assistance must check a
Speaker 1: box before sending remittance abroad, and that the administration would
Speaker 1: be pushing regulations which would forbid those on public aid
Speaker 1: from sending money to other countries. It seems like such
Speaker 1: a simple idea. It is absolutely in my opinion, it
Speaker 1: is absolutely brilliant. If you are receiving aid from the
Speaker 1: federal government, then you have no business one dime overseas.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? If you are receiving largest from
Speaker 1: the federal government, why are you receiving that because you
Speaker 1: need it. You need it to pay your heat, you
Speaker 1: need it to be able to have food on the table,
Speaker 1: you need it for your medical bills. We should not
Speaker 1: be in the business of subsidizing an individual, any individual,
Speaker 1: and especially illegal aliens to the point to where they
Speaker 1: have excess money sitting around and they can just ship
Speaker 1: it overseas. Scott Pssent said, from now on, anyone who
Speaker 1: wires money out from one of these money service businesses
Speaker 1: has to check a box saying whether or not they
Speaker 1: are on public assistance. And if you are on public assistance,
Speaker 1: will start pushing that you cannot wire money out of
Speaker 1: the country. When asked what happened if they didn't tell
Speaker 1: the truth, he said, well, then that's a crime. Lying
Speaker 1: on a federal form is a crime. I know, we
Speaker 1: don't like to, you know, hold people accountable for lying
Speaker 1: to the Feds, lying about things like this, lying about anything.
Speaker 1: We don't like to hold people accountable for that. But
Speaker 1: Scott besaid says, no, not anymore. You lie, you lie
Speaker 1: in that federal form, you check that box saying you
Speaker 1: are not a Look to me, what you do with
Speaker 1: your money should be your business. I largely feel buy
Speaker 1: and large that what you do with your money is
Speaker 1: absolutely no business of the federal government. But in this case,
Speaker 1: you're talking about people who are on public assistance. They
Speaker 1: are getting tax payer dollars from the federal government. So
Speaker 1: my way of thinking, that makes it the government's business
Speaker 1: to make sure that that money is being used for
Speaker 1: what it's meant to be used for. It is meant
Speaker 1: to help the individual who was receiving that money, not
Speaker 1: meant to be shipped overseas the American people. Our generosity
Speaker 1: has been taken advantage of, Assent, said. Our generosity is
Speaker 1: funding Somali terror group Al Shabab and Iranian interest, said
Speaker 1: Laura Ingram. He said the money is supposed to go for.
Speaker 1: The money is supposed to go for alleged asylum seekers
Speaker 1: in their families and children. If you're wiring money out
Speaker 1: of the country, one of two things must be true.
Speaker 1: You are getting too much money and your benefits should
Speaker 1: be cut, or you were part of this conspiracy. Sending
Speaker 1: money to terrorists is something that we should not abide
Speaker 1: in any way, shape or form. And thank God for
Speaker 1: someone like Scott Bscent who is going to take steps
Speaker 1: to see that it no longer happens. We got to
Speaker 1: get to a break news coming up the top of
Speaker 1: the hour, and then in the eleven o'clock hour a
Speaker 1: couple of more guests. I've got my buddy Curtis out
Speaker 1: from NewsBusters dot Org, and we're gonna talk about the
Speaker 1: way this whole thing has been covered and what the
Speaker 1: media and again the whole notion of and it's something
Speaker 1: that I say all the time that the American people
Speaker 1: are poorly served by the national media, and in this
Speaker 1: case it's not true across the board, but by and
Speaker 1: large it is true. And we'll get into that. And
Speaker 1: then my friend Tina Duskovich from Moms for Liberty, it's
Speaker 1: been a while since we've had a little chat with her.
Speaker 1: We'll catch up with Moms for Liberty and find out
Speaker 1: what they're in through. And they've got a big event
Speaker 1: coming up, so we will discuss that as we roll
Speaker 1: on till midnight tonight. Dan Carroll inf Sterling on this
Speaker 1: Friday night on seven hundred WLW, seven hundred WLW, I'm
Speaker 1: Dan Carroll, glad to be here, Glad you are here
Speaker 1: as well. Always glad to welcome in my next guest.
Speaker 1: You know, one of the things I talk about a
Speaker 1: lot behind this microphone is media, the national media, and
Speaker 1: how things are covered by the national media. I have
Speaker 1: a lot of criticism, and I think it's criticism that's
Speaker 1: well learned because I spend so much time in television
Speaker 1: and radio and I've got a pretty good idea how
Speaker 1: things work behind the scenes and there's one place you
Speaker 1: can go to get all the coverage of what is
Speaker 1: happening in national media, and that is NewsBusters dot Org MRC.
Speaker 1: And Curtis Holk is the managing ed of the there,
Speaker 1: and I've had him on a lot, but I think
Speaker 1: this is the first time we've had a chance to
Speaker 1: talk in twenty twenty six. And Curtis hal Happy New
Speaker 1: Year and welcome back to seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 9: If New York Dang could be with you.
Speaker 1: Good to be with you as well. Give me and
Speaker 1: first of all, before we do anything, I always like
Speaker 1: to give credit where credit is due, because I am
Speaker 1: I am very critical of the NBC's of the world,
Speaker 1: the ABC's, the CBS's, the CNNs and all the rest
Speaker 1: of it. New York Times, the LA Times, all that stuff.
Speaker 1: But when something happens that deserves credit, I want to
Speaker 1: give credit. And NBC News in the day after the
Speaker 1: day of the incident in Minneapolis where the ice agent
Speaker 1: unfortunately had to shoot and kill that woman, Tom Lomas,
Speaker 1: and they had an analyst there and they did a
Speaker 1: segment that was honest, a segment that was forthright, and
Speaker 1: they analyzed frame by frame the video from that scene
Speaker 1: and they did an on I thought they did a
Speaker 1: very honest and straightforward assessment of that. So I want
Speaker 1: to give credit especially to Tom Lomas. I mean, this guy,
Speaker 1: when he was making his bones, he was covering the
Speaker 1: Trump campaign. You could always count on him being a
Speaker 1: reliable Trump basher, a reliable tool for the left to
Speaker 1: get the word of the agenda out there as best
Speaker 1: he could. But in this instance, they did an honest
Speaker 1: analysis of that video, frame by frame, and so at
Speaker 1: least starting off this conversation, I want to give them
Speaker 1: credit for that.
Speaker 10: Well, you know, it is interesting to see the pivot
Speaker 10: in the media that Yamas has been running a semi
Speaker 10: decent newscast, a pretty decent newscast since he took over
Speaker 10: for Lester Halt, and with what's going on at CBS
Speaker 10: with Barry Wise and Tony Dakoppel, we could be looking
Speaker 10: at a situation where two of the three network evening
Speaker 10: newscasts aren't completely like unhinged liberal tears, liberal anger, gnashing
Speaker 10: of teeth. But the reason that segment, I'll just say
Speaker 10: real quick, is really good is because Tom Winner is
Speaker 10: the law enforcement reporter there. It was almost like a
Speaker 10: football play, you know, bringing it frame by frame, kind
Speaker 10: of circling things, kind of pointing things out.
Speaker 6: And he also did a good thing to him by saying.
Speaker 10: Basically, talk about what they know and what they don't know.
Speaker 10: And it's not weakness on the part of the news
Speaker 10: media that if something is unclear, like we none of
Speaker 10: us know what the woman was saying to these ice
Speaker 10: officers in the moments beforehand.
Speaker 9: If anything, but that's something that we may want to know.
Speaker 10: It may enhance the picture of what happened the other day.
Speaker 10: And you know, I think the media so often want
Speaker 10: to reach a certain conclusion that fulfill.
Speaker 9: Their preset biases that they're not.
Speaker 10: Willing to step back and just be like, Okay, well
Speaker 10: we know this, but we don't know this. And that's
Speaker 10: really where we've run into a problem with trust in
Speaker 10: the media.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you are one of those that gets
Speaker 1: your main information, your main source of information is let's
Speaker 1: say a news or let's say the Associated Press, the
Speaker 1: only thing you really know about this is that a
Speaker 1: woman who was minding her own business was gunned down
Speaker 1: by a bloodthirsty ice agent at the direction of Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: That's pretty much and maybe I'm exaggerating a little bit
Speaker 1: Curtis out, but that's pretty much the message that they
Speaker 1: wanted to get out there in their initial reporting of this.
Speaker 11: Lemir.
Speaker 9: Yeah, the AP headline here quote woman.
Speaker 10: Killed by ice agent in Minneapolis was a mother of
Speaker 10: three poets and new to the city. Yeah, oh wow, oh,
Speaker 10: very stunning stuff. But I mean, I think multiple things
Speaker 10: can be true here.
Speaker 9: I mean, this thing was a tragedy.
Speaker 10: This woman clearly, I mean, it was clear the Vice
Speaker 10: president was absolutely right that she was radicalized by the left.
Speaker 10: Maggie Vespa the NBC News went out on the Today
Speaker 10: Show this morning and said that the Vice president's claims
Speaker 10: about her being a radical leftist were without evidence, without evidence,
Speaker 10: absolutely insane. But it does a disservice to the facts
Speaker 10: of the case and her as well. And unfortunately this
Speaker 10: has all been a result of the culture of haraffsment.
Speaker 10: Scott Jennings the other day he talked about this being
Speaker 10: a deadly consequence of political vigilanteism, you know, and the
Speaker 10: difference between observe and obstruct law enforcement and calling law
Speaker 10: enforcement gestapo. But I think the key here is that
Speaker 10: this is going to be found likely to be awful
Speaker 10: but legal. Tom Winner also said that earlier in the
Speaker 10: day of the NBC's coverage in the moments thereafter, and
Speaker 10: that's okay, But that kind of nuanced dand is not
Speaker 10: allowed on CNN and MS. Now it's Trump administration, Ice, bad, evil,
Speaker 10: stupid Jacob.
Speaker 9: Fried, Tim Wall's good, you know.
Speaker 10: I mean, it's a very black and white world for
Speaker 10: these people, and it's hyperbolic, and it does the country
Speaker 10: no good.
Speaker 1: Well, and there's no condemnation of the really the hateful
Speaker 1: and the violent and device of rhetoric that comes from
Speaker 1: the left. You know, there were demonstrations in multiple cities
Speaker 1: across the United States last night, Curtis out, including here
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, and I saw video today of these individuals
Speaker 1: in Queens, New York. They were chanting that we support
Speaker 1: hamas in other cities across the country, they were talking
Speaker 1: about taking out the head of Homeland Security, Christy nom
Speaker 1: and hanging them aric, talking about killing ICE agents and
Speaker 1: things like that. Where's the national network reporting on that
Speaker 1: sort of hateful rhetoric.
Speaker 9: It has not been really anywhere.
Speaker 10: I mean, the only thing I've seen is last night
Speaker 10: Tony de Koppel interviewed the mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Frye,
Speaker 10: and he.
Speaker 9: Pointed out to him.
Speaker 10: That, you know, you've got protesters in the streets saying
Speaker 10: things like Nazis go home.
Speaker 9: How are you helping the situation calm down?
Speaker 10: And Fry's answer said, well, I appreciate that we in
Speaker 10: Minneapolis are all about seeing with one accord, like excuse me.
Speaker 10: You know, you have Tim Walls out there channeling his
Speaker 10: democratic forefathers by talking about mobilizing the National Guard like
Speaker 10: during the Civil Rights movement or something like that, you know,
Speaker 10: and we this all comes to as we're talking about
Speaker 10: the Somali community and the Somalis.
Speaker 9: Oh my gosh, they built the city.
Speaker 10: As Peggy Flannagan, the Lieutenant governor, and others have said,
Speaker 10: it's such a disgusting and inhumane view of people when
Speaker 10: they're criminals or in some cases, as Tom Homan has
Speaker 10: talked about, they're victims of these leftist kind of slave
Speaker 10: masters thinking that they rule over everyone.
Speaker 1: You know, Purnis, I think about this, and I go
Speaker 1: back and I look at a headline that was posted
Speaker 1: from the Associated Press when this incident happened, and here's
Speaker 1: the here's the headline from the Associated Press, the killing
Speaker 1: of a nursing student out for a run highlights the
Speaker 1: fears of solo female athletes. So, and this corresponds with
Speaker 1: a text I saw on X and the individual said,
Speaker 1: you know, if this woman in Minneapolis had been killed
Speaker 1: by an illegal alien, we wouldn't be going through all
Speaker 1: these changes that we're going through right now here in
Speaker 1: the in the media or the debate on this. There
Speaker 1: would be there would be no outrage at all.
Speaker 10: None, none, whatsoever. I mean, I mean that's the thing too.
Speaker 10: I mean, Jacob Fries come out. He took a question
Speaker 10: this morning at a press conference, saying, well, you know,
Speaker 10: people don't like my rhetoric or whatever, like, oh so
Speaker 10: what I used a bunch.
Speaker 9: Of F bombs.
Speaker 10: I'm saying all these things, but you know this woman
Speaker 10: is dead. Yes, Mayor Fry, Joscelyn Nungray and Rachel Morin
Speaker 10: are unavailable to comment about whether your policy about not
Speaker 10: allowing ICE to go into city jail to get out
Speaker 10: illegal immigrants with ICE detainers is a go to bad policy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, we spent so much time wondering if
Speaker 1: the media is ever going to change. And I had
Speaker 1: a guest on my show last night, a guy named
Speaker 1: Steve Oldfield. I used to work with him. He was
Speaker 1: a he was a movie critic for many years. Now
Speaker 1: he's he's doing his own documentaries. He's a professor at
Speaker 1: at Thomas Moore University here in northern Kentucky, and he
Speaker 1: he saw perilous. He he did a documentary about Nick Sandon.
Speaker 1: You may remember Nick Sammon, the the Covington kid, and
Speaker 1: you know, he was the one that was the initial
Speaker 1: reporting came out that he was at the Washington Monument
Speaker 1: or the Lincoln Monument and he was standing in the
Speaker 1: face of this, you know, this this Indian dude who
Speaker 1: was just trying to you know, the guy was being
Speaker 1: very disrespectful. He had a mega hat on, and of
Speaker 1: course he was a Trump supporter, so the media rushed
Speaker 1: to judgment on this kid. It just told very fall
Speaker 1: defamatory things about him, and he wound up with a
Speaker 1: multimillion dollar settlement against against CNN that may have been
Speaker 1: in the hundreds of millions of dollars. And he was
Speaker 1: saying that he was seeing parallels between that coverage and
Speaker 1: the coverage that surrounded this incident in Minneapolis, and he's
Speaker 1: seeing some parallels there. And the question I have about
Speaker 1: that is, you know, I think there was some soul
Speaker 1: searching from media local and national about the way they
Speaker 1: rolled this story out and how quickly they were putting
Speaker 1: that false narrative out there because and I think the
Speaker 1: same element drives that coverage as the coverage we're seeing
Speaker 1: on this is that if this accrues to the negative
Speaker 1: for Trump, then we are going to go ahead and
Speaker 1: put it out there, and ethics be damned, damn the torpedoes,
Speaker 1: We're going to put it out there, and if it
Speaker 1: hurts Trump that is, you know, we'll deal with the
Speaker 1: fallout later and clean up the mess later. And I
Speaker 1: think we're seeing the same sort of thing then, as
Speaker 1: we're seeing that.
Speaker 10: Too often the national news media and unfortunately some local
Speaker 10: folks as well, have to frame every news story through
Speaker 10: a Trump angle. Does this benefit Trump? Can we work
Speaker 10: Trump into the story somehow or not? You know, I
Speaker 10: don't understand why they continue down this path, considering how
Speaker 10: much fatigue I can pretty much guarantee there is. I
Speaker 10: know that Paul Farkeey, a former Washington Post media reporter,
Speaker 10: has been trying to get some anti Trump book published,
Speaker 10: and he shared on social media the other day that
Speaker 10: like publishers are basically like Yeah, we've reached a point
Speaker 10: of saturation with these Trump books. Nobody's really buying them,
Speaker 10: So you wonder if you're going to hit that point
Speaker 10: in news as well. I mean, it's very disingenuous. And
Speaker 10: the other point I'll just make is, in some of
Speaker 10: these cases, it's too good to check. It's too good
Speaker 10: to check for them because you've got to get to air.
Speaker 10: And it's not just about rushing Terran being first, because yes,
Speaker 10: I think that's one in claim, But the main thing
Speaker 10: is is to get a set of narratives out there,
Speaker 10: because it's very difficult to put the truthpaste back. And
Speaker 10: then two, as we saw with Michael Brown and hands up,
Speaker 10: don't shoot, it's very hard once a set of facts
Speaker 10: are established, or that the president is a Russian agent,
Speaker 10: that those kinds of things. The quicker you get those
Speaker 10: things set and in the ether, the harder it is
Speaker 10: to kind of reel things back in if once the
Speaker 10: facts come out it's different than what they were promoting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you you mentioned the headline from that AP
Speaker 1: story earlier, and if you look at the first sentence
Speaker 1: of that story, they've got the term killed by an
Speaker 1: Ice agent and Donald Trump in the same sentence. So
Speaker 1: and that's not done by a mistake, that is done
Speaker 1: on purpose. They want people to associate this woman being
Speaker 1: killed with Donald Trump bottom line. And I mean it's
Speaker 1: it's really it's it's sick and it's insidious. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's really getting to the point. And we we know,
Speaker 1: we see all these these uh different media pundits bemoaning
Speaker 1: the fact that you know, there's no trust in the
Speaker 1: media anymore, and somehow I guess that's Trump's fault too.
Speaker 1: But they have by and large, uh, if not one
Speaker 1: hundred percent, brought the distrust that they enjoy from the
Speaker 1: American people at this point in time, they brought it
Speaker 1: on themselves.
Speaker 10: That's either getting mad at Tony da Koppel or they
Speaker 10: did on New Year's Day when he put out his
Speaker 10: commentary saying that people don't trust the media and they
Speaker 10: have a right to not trust them.
Speaker 9: UH.
Speaker 10: An AP editor Nick Ricardi uh tweeted over it and
Speaker 10: basically more or less said, well, you know, very often
Speaker 10: the customer is not always right, so basically screw them,
Speaker 10: And well, yeah, that's certainly true. There are certain uh
Speaker 10: facts that should not be in dispute, like what is
Speaker 10: a man and what is a woman?
Speaker 9: But I t crass you.
Speaker 10: There have to there has to be some sort of
Speaker 10: you know, recognition about trying to at least understand why
Speaker 10: the public doesn't trust you. And instead it's this continuing
Speaker 10: active sticking.
Speaker 9: Your head in the sand.
Speaker 10: And just being completely unapologetic and not willing to kind
Speaker 10: of look at yourself in the mirror about what's going
Speaker 10: And that's exactly and that's really exactly what we've been seeing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you make of the way this guy
Speaker 1: surely has been treated for the videos that he put
Speaker 1: out walking around to the different daycare centers in Minneapolis
Speaker 1: and saying, hey, look there's no one here, and he's
Speaker 1: walking through the office buildings and hey, you know it's
Speaker 1: a home healthcare service. Can I get some healthcare here?
Speaker 1: And you know, time after time he's showing the empty
Speaker 1: buildings and talking about all the millions they're getting from
Speaker 1: the federal government and all the rest of that. And
Speaker 1: this guy is just being maligned from one end to
Speaker 1: the other. I think there was a time in this
Speaker 1: country where this guy would have been celebrated and said,
Speaker 1: look at the courage, Look what this guy is doing
Speaker 1: going out there with it with his own camera, his
Speaker 1: own on his own initiative, and doing the job that
Speaker 1: your typical reporters ought to be doing. And I think
Speaker 1: there was some local reporting on this in Minneapolis that
Speaker 1: was done years ahead of time when this story first broke,
Speaker 1: I think was back in about twenty fifteen. But they
Speaker 1: have this guy out there and they have Hi his
Speaker 1: name just smeared, and have his work pooh poohed by
Speaker 1: the national media. Is I look at that and that's
Speaker 1: a disgrace instead of recognizing what this guy has gone.
Speaker 10: Out and done when it comes to Somali daycarees. I mean,
Speaker 10: I mean, what's interesting is CNN in New York Times.
Speaker 10: I just think of those two in particular, there are
Speaker 10: stories about Somali daycare fraud. Has not been about investigating
Speaker 10: the particular claims. It has been trying to undermine Nick Sureley.
Speaker 10: Even these World News Tonight has only spent thirty five
Speaker 10: seconds talking about Somali fraud.
Speaker 1: Period thirty five seconds, thirty five much unbelievable.
Speaker 10: Only three and a half times more on the Somali
Speaker 10: population being victims of the Trumpet administration, and it's it's
Speaker 10: just again more about the personal and attacking Nick Shirley. Oh,
Speaker 10: he's just some conservative YouTuber, like he's not a real journalist.
Speaker 10: Did he go to journalism school? I mean, it's that
Speaker 10: kind of infantile, juvenile attitude that we are so used
Speaker 10: to from these folks. You just want to ask these
Speaker 10: people how old are you? Are you going to investigate
Speaker 10: the actual merits of this or are you just going
Speaker 10: to like attack him personally. I think they settled on
Speaker 10: we're just going to attack him personally instead of trying to,
Speaker 10: you know, see about what's going on here, or they
Speaker 10: just say without evidence and hope that people that aren't
Speaker 10: is tuned into the news, you know, slink away and
Speaker 10: stop asking questions.
Speaker 1: Curtis Holf, we got to run. But before I let
Speaker 1: you go, are the American people well served by the
Speaker 1: national media that we have right now?
Speaker 10: I mean, while as I say, there's still been improvements made,
Speaker 10: it is still not the case. It is still not
Speaker 10: the case by any stretch of the imagination. And we
Speaker 10: should want a strong national media in this country. We
Speaker 10: should I want to see the nast met as a
Speaker 10: concept go away, but there needs to be serious reforms.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's right there in the First Amendment, so
Speaker 1: it should be taken advantage of, and it's something that
Speaker 1: should not be Abuya.
Speaker 10: Copple says, the First Amendment has a right to the
Speaker 10: free press. It does not include a right or demand
Speaker 10: that we trust them.
Speaker 1: That's fact. That's that's pretty good. That's pretty good stuff
Speaker 1: right there. So there are some changes happening at CBS,
Speaker 1: and the numbers for MS now continue to go down
Speaker 1: the toilet. But that's a subject for another day. Curtis Houck,
Speaker 1: as always MRC NewsBusters, you guys do great work over there.
Speaker 1: Tell everyone over there. I said, hey, and keep up
Speaker 1: the great work, and I will certainly look forward to
Speaker 1: the times that we get a chance to talk in
Speaker 1: the year ahead. In twenty twenty six.
Speaker 9: Absolutely talk soon, my friend.
Speaker 1: Curtis Houk, you're the best, Keep up the great work,
Speaker 1: and we will talk to you again on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 1: All right back on the big one, seven hundred w LW.
Speaker 1: We can see you on this Friday with another great guest.
Speaker 1: Always love catching up every so often with my friend
Speaker 1: Tina Diskovich, one of the founders of a group Tina
Speaker 1: Diskovich A Mom's for Liberty. Are you still declared a
Speaker 1: hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. Do you
Speaker 1: still have that title?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 8: We do.
Speaker 7: Oh boy, oh boy.
Speaker 1: It is so much hate, so much, so much hate
Speaker 1: out there the Moms for Liberty. I read recently where
Speaker 1: one of the things you did the Moms for Liberty
Speaker 1: was put a million copies of the Constitution in middle
Speaker 1: schools across the country. Tell me about that. That had
Speaker 1: to be a huge undertaking.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 12: We partner with nine to seventeen Society. They're a free
Speaker 12: organization and the thing that they do is distribute constitute
Speaker 12: pocket constitutions for free, and so we partnered with them
Speaker 12: so that our chapter leaders across the country could place
Speaker 12: an order for free with them to get as an
Speaker 12: as many pocket constitutions as they needed.
Speaker 6: For their county.
Speaker 12: For middle school students, most across the country, either seventh
Speaker 12: or eighth grade is a Civics class, and so the
Speaker 12: goal is to get them placed in every hand of
Speaker 12: every kid for Civics, and states like Wyoming we placed
Speaker 12: in every single seventh grader in the state of Wyoming
Speaker 12: in a public school got a pocket constitution this past year. So, yeah,
Speaker 12: we have a lot more students to reach, but we've
Speaker 12: been doing it for three years now, and I will
Speaker 12: say I give out pocket constitutions at Halloween every year.
Speaker 12: I also give a full size candy bar to make
Speaker 12: up for the fact that I'm giving.
Speaker 4: Them a pocket constitution.
Speaker 12: And this was the first year two kids said, oh,
Speaker 12: I or we have one of these. I got it
Speaker 12: at school this year. So happy to see that. So
Speaker 12: we're making we're making changes.
Speaker 1: I think that is such a great idea. You know,
Speaker 1: it's one thing to put the constitutions in the schools
Speaker 1: and get them in the hands of the kids. It's
Speaker 1: another thing for them to have them look at it
Speaker 1: and refer to it on a regular basis. So hopefully
Speaker 1: that is happening. I would also imagine that the way
Speaker 1: things are in this country right now, there are some
Speaker 1: schools who would resist that idea of given as Sadly,
Speaker 1: I think there are schools and teachers and probably different
Speaker 1: school administrations that would frown on the idea of your
Speaker 1: group passing out constitutions copies of the constitutions to their sty.
Speaker 12: Yeah, one hundred percent. We've had We've had districts to cline.
Speaker 11: We sure have.
Speaker 12: Montgomery County, Pennsylvania declined last year, I think, or the
Speaker 12: year before they said they would, and then you know,
Speaker 12: we shut up with them. All we ordered them and
Speaker 12: then they declined them, so they had to scramble and
Speaker 12: find other places to place them.
Speaker 11: And you know, I could list other places across.
Speaker 12: The country to have done that. It's one of the
Speaker 12: reasons that we don't. We have pocket constitutions that are
Speaker 12: branded with Moms for Liberty, and those aren't the ones
Speaker 12: we don'tate because we want kids to.
Speaker 6: Actually have them.
Speaker 12: This isn't about Moms for Liberty getting some branding in
Speaker 12: front of kids. They're you know, in front of moms.
Speaker 12: It's literally about getting pocket constitutions. In the ninth seventeen society,
Speaker 12: all they do is donate pocket constitutions. They don't really have,
Speaker 12: you know, any other agendas, and so it's one.
Speaker 6: Of the reasons we work through them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the last time we talked, you had just started
Speaker 1: your podcast that you that you've been doing. How's everything
Speaker 1: going with the podcast so far?
Speaker 6: It's going great.
Speaker 12: I would you know, between you and I and whoever
Speaker 12: might be listening, I don't have a massive reach. I
Speaker 12: haven't reached a million viewers in my audience or anything
Speaker 12: about any Yeah, it's it's a really important podcast because
Speaker 12: it tells the story of each of our frontline warriors
Speaker 12: that are running chapters, and every single one is different
Speaker 12: and unique and remarkable. This past week, this past Wednesday,
Speaker 12: they run Wednesday morning at ten am live on All
Speaker 12: Moms for Liberty social media accounts.
Speaker 6: And this one this week was really really good.
Speaker 12: It was about our identity crisis as Americans, and one
Speaker 12: of our chapter chairs is actually a licensed mental health counselor,
Speaker 12: and we compared our whole identity crisis.
Speaker 6: As Americans to what it's like for a child.
Speaker 12: That's going through an identity crisis, and it's the same steps.
Speaker 12: Like you know, negativity is poured into you students across America.
Speaker 12: We're pouring into the America, is that it was founded
Speaker 12: on slavery, all of these things, and then you expect
Speaker 12: them to have a healthy, patriotic outlook and it's typically
Speaker 12: engaged as an adult, and it's not happening because of
Speaker 12: what we're doing to them. We're robbing them of their
Speaker 12: American identity.
Speaker 11: It was so good, It was really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, I think so much of that
Speaker 1: of what goes on in the education system is being
Speaker 1: played out today by what some of the video and
Speaker 1: some of the things that i'm the current events that
Speaker 1: I'm looking at on TV right now. But before we
Speaker 1: get to those current events, a couple other things I
Speaker 1: want to ask you about. Here in Ohio in the
Speaker 1: year twenty twenty six, there is a new law that
Speaker 1: is taking effect that is going to keep students in
Speaker 1: the classroom from having access to their cell phones. So
Speaker 1: there's already some school districts around here that have already
Speaker 1: started policies like that. I think it's a great idea
Speaker 1: take the cell phones and that distraction away from kids
Speaker 1: while they're in school and in the classroom. What does
Speaker 1: Moms for Liberty have to say about that idea of
Speaker 1: we know, the kids walk into school, they put their
Speaker 1: cell phone away, or they keep it in a secure pouch,
Speaker 1: or they can't be looking at it all day long.
Speaker 1: What do you think about that notion of taking the
Speaker 1: cell phones out of the hands of kids during the
Speaker 1: school day.
Speaker 12: Our membership is actually very divided on this, and some
Speaker 12: very strong opinions on both sides. I can tell you
Speaker 12: what I personally believe. I have children in school. You know,
Speaker 12: I've been a school board number lots of experiences, you know,
Speaker 12: served as a sub and classrooms of all ages, so
Speaker 12: experience the phones in the classroom, and phones should not
Speaker 12: be out in classroom period, end of the story.
Speaker 11: It's distracting.
Speaker 12: Obviously, they're getting tax and social media and all these
Speaker 12: other things are coming up on the screen even if
Speaker 12: they're trying to look something up for their lessons, So
Speaker 12: they should be put away. I do not want my
Speaker 12: children to be on campus without their phones. And there's
Speaker 12: some states and some school districts across the country that
Speaker 12: are completely banning them from even bringing them on campus,
Speaker 12: and I don't like that one. But so I think
Speaker 12: there's probably a healthy hybrid where they can put them
Speaker 12: away as they entered the classroom door, leave some teachers
Speaker 12: put charging booths at the door, leave you all of
Speaker 12: your phones right here by the door, so that they
Speaker 12: can focus during class, but have them in between.
Speaker 1: So you think there's a I guess they taken away
Speaker 1: from kids completely at school is maybe a little bit
Speaker 1: too extreme, and so we need to find something that
Speaker 1: is someplace to meet and them find some common ground
Speaker 1: on that.
Speaker 6: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: That's that's my thoughts, all right, all right, as you
Speaker 1: look at what's happening in the media right now, and again,
Speaker 1: I think so much of this relates back to our
Speaker 1: education system, and I've talked to a number of different
Speaker 1: guests about its specifically as it relates to Zorhan Mondani
Speaker 1: in New York City and he's out there and he's
Speaker 1: preaching socialism and communism, the warmth of the collective if
Speaker 1: you caught that during his inauguration speech, and again, going
Speaker 1: to get rid of the frigidity of capitalism and rugged
Speaker 1: individualism for the warmth of the collective. And I just
Speaker 1: think there's so many, especially young people who voted for
Speaker 1: this guy in New York City, and I see that
Speaker 1: as an indictment on our education system because these people,
Speaker 1: so many that voted for him, just think it's going
Speaker 1: to be all rainbows and unicorns and the rest of it.
Speaker 1: And they have really no clue about the history of
Speaker 1: the failure of socialism and communism across the world and
Speaker 1: it never works, it never has worked. But yet somehow
Speaker 1: they want to go out there and celebrate all these
Speaker 1: socialists and communist ideas that are coming to New York City.
Speaker 11: It goes back to what you know we just talked
Speaker 11: about a second ago.
Speaker 12: We have lost our American identity, and we have done
Speaker 12: that through the education system, hands down, one hundred percent.
Speaker 12: You know, we have moms liberty.
Speaker 11: We can point to a.
Speaker 12: Ton of issues in education, lessons that have been taught.
Speaker 12: I can go back to my son who's twenty four now,
Speaker 12: in his high school American government class. He texted me
Speaker 12: a photo. I said, Mom, can you even believe this?
Speaker 12: The glossary in the back of the American Government book
Speaker 12: said Karl Marx, father of capitalism. And so they've been
Speaker 12: sewing a confusion and yeah, yeah, yeah, promise you that's
Speaker 12: what I said. They've been sowing chaos and confusion, and
Speaker 12: that's that's on that that's like the good end. Like
Speaker 12: if you were like on the scale of all the
Speaker 12: horrible things they've done, that's probably like, oh, that's really
Speaker 12: not that bad. That's just a little confusing and a little.
Speaker 6: Wrong and not true.
Speaker 12: But then you can look at them actually trying to
Speaker 12: destroy American history, destroyer founding fathers, destroyer founding principles. And
Speaker 12: of course they're going to be looking for different solutions
Speaker 12: outside of capitalism and rugged individualism because been.
Speaker 6: Taught it's bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so as that relates to the current situation.
Speaker 1: Say that, like we have it in Minnesota right now,
Speaker 1: and it's specifically in Minneapolis, and you talk about this
Speaker 1: large Somali population, is that is there. It seems like
Speaker 1: there's so much fraud associated with this community and the
Speaker 1: home health care services and the day care services and
Speaker 1: the transportation companies and all this other stuff supposed to
Speaker 1: be feeding kids and all the rest of it. And
Speaker 1: it seems like we get this message that is intentionally
Speaker 1: meant to confuse people. When you talk about immigrants that
Speaker 1: come into the country, and on one hand, you know
Speaker 1: there are many many of them may be refugees, they
Speaker 1: may be here illegally, some may be here legally for
Speaker 1: different things, But it doesn't seem that we really get
Speaker 1: a clear picture from the media. And I think think
Speaker 1: a lot of people are confused about, you know what,
Speaker 1: why are we cracking down on this particular community or
Speaker 1: these particular individuals when when when you know they're they're
Speaker 1: just here for the American experience, for the American way
Speaker 1: of life. But yeah, we get so much mixed messages there.
Speaker 1: I think people look at this and again that whole
Speaker 1: issue of confusion comes into play when you look at
Speaker 1: the way this is presented to the people.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's deliberate.
Speaker 12: The confusion is deliberately done, not just to our children,
Speaker 12: but as you're saying and throughout the media. So it
Speaker 12: just carries on into your adulthood everything.
Speaker 11: You're exposed to.
Speaker 12: And I mean, if you're a god fearing person who
Speaker 12: is the father of confusion and lies, that's where this
Speaker 12: stems from and comes from. And the fruit of confusion
Speaker 12: and lies are things like we're seeing unfold in Minneapolis now,
Speaker 12: which is it's hard for us to handle and work through.
Speaker 12: It's very it's hard for our country to face. But
Speaker 12: to just go full circle in the conversation, it's starting
Speaker 12: in America's classrooms, and that's what Mom's Liberty was created for,
Speaker 12: to start fighting back.
Speaker 11: But my goodness, we still that long way to go.
Speaker 1: You see. Well, but I look at the map that's
Speaker 1: on your website and I see all the chapters that
Speaker 1: are popping up. You've still got some areas out there
Speaker 1: that are a little bit thin, But it seems like
Speaker 1: more and more people are catching on to the movement
Speaker 1: that is Mom's for Liberty.
Speaker 11: Let's go Ohio.
Speaker 12: We have lots of blue left still in Ohio, and
Speaker 12: that's you're blue on there. If you don't have a
Speaker 12: Mom's Liberty chapter, you need to be gold. You need
Speaker 12: to be shining and have a light in your county
Speaker 12: so that you have moms and dads that are watchdogs
Speaker 12: watching the school districts making sure this nonsense isn't in
Speaker 12: your community.
Speaker 3: OK.
Speaker 1: Tell me about On January thirteenth, Moms for Liberty has
Speaker 1: an event that's coming up on the steps of the
Speaker 1: United States Supreme Court and this is the rally for
Speaker 1: Women's Sports. Talk about this event a little bit and
Speaker 1: what is going on with the Supreme Court that day
Speaker 1: and where Moms for Liberty is on this and what
Speaker 1: you hope to accomplish.
Speaker 9: Ah.
Speaker 12: Yeah, well I wish we could take full credit. I
Speaker 12: know we put out graphics and information for other people
Speaker 12: to gather there too, But it's really Alliance Defending Freedom.
Speaker 6: It's their case.
Speaker 12: It's a keep Boys out, a women's sports case, keeping
Speaker 12: protect girl spaces case.
Speaker 11: It's a landmark obviously Supreme Court case.
Speaker 9: That will be heard.
Speaker 12: And so they put together a rally outside that just
Speaker 12: seems to be growing and growing.
Speaker 11: There's a lot of organizations that are going to be present.
Speaker 12: And a lot of our moms were saying, we want
Speaker 12: to go, we want to be there, and so we're
Speaker 12: just organizing them together and doing a reception after we
Speaker 12: invite anyone to join us. It starts at ten am
Speaker 12: and we'll be doing a private reception after. But if
Speaker 12: you go to mom's leb we got a organ sign up,
Speaker 12: we can invite you to our private reception.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how did we get to the point to where Look,
Speaker 1: I'm guessing that year old enough that when you went
Speaker 1: to school, there was boys, sports, there was sports, there
Speaker 1: was a boy's restroom and a girl's restroom, and there
Speaker 1: really wasn't any confusion about that. But now, and thankfully,
Speaker 1: I think because of the policies of this administration, we're
Speaker 1: getting away from that. But the whole idea, there's still
Speaker 1: a lot of places around this country where they are
Speaker 1: fighting this tooth and nail, and people look at this
Speaker 1: notion of having teenage boys compete against girls in sports.
Speaker 1: They want to act as if there's nothing wrong with
Speaker 1: that and it's no big deal. But in so many
Speaker 1: of these people have spent time with Title nine and
Speaker 1: trying to get better situations for women in sports and
Speaker 1: all the rest of it. But yet in so many
Speaker 1: cases they're willing to throw all that away just to
Speaker 1: pursue this agenda item.
Speaker 12: My goodness, this topic, we could do a whole day radio.
Speaker 12: So I'm not even sure where to start. But it's been,
Speaker 12: it's been in the works for generations. You can tie
Speaker 12: it into the conversation of causing confusion and chaos. And
Speaker 12: what more confusion can you cause if you can't even
Speaker 12: identify the difference between a boy and a girl the
Speaker 12: basic Biblical Genesis one, you know, man and woman, and
Speaker 12: so it strikes to the core of evil. You can
Speaker 12: trace it starting in America really in the forties and fifties.
Speaker 12: You can move all the way up to the early
Speaker 12: two thousands and the twenty tens, when we started seeing
Speaker 12: here in Florida policies, especially in Obama under President Obama,
Speaker 12: they started, you know, the dear colleagues, let dear colleague
Speaker 12: letters to school districts where they started pulling the putting
Speaker 12: in the word gender identity into all these discrimination policies
Speaker 12: across the country. They were laying the groundwork. And you know,
Speaker 12: now in hindsight, we can look back and see steps
Speaker 12: that were taken systematically, well planned out to bring us
Speaker 12: to where we are today, and so we have to
Speaker 12: be smarter. We have to see these things coming. But
Speaker 12: like you said, the administration first executive order at the gate,
Speaker 12: I believe was get boys out of girls sports. And
Speaker 12: we at Monster Liberty have been fighting it, and we've
Speaker 12: sued the bid administration. We've got a federal injunction. There's
Speaker 12: so many good people really fighting this. But it is
Speaker 12: remarkable that that's where we are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, those on the other side of this issue,
Speaker 1: they never give up. And I can sit here and
Speaker 1: look at it, and I can look at the policies
Speaker 1: of the Trump administration and get a sense or have
Speaker 1: a feeling that the tide is turning away from this.
Speaker 1: But then I also get the feeling that there are
Speaker 1: just a lot of areas around the country where you
Speaker 1: have school boards or administrators or people who have a
Speaker 1: certain agenda are simply lying in wait for their time
Speaker 1: too to come up and push this agenda once again.
Speaker 12: Right now, it's just an executive order, like President Trump,
Speaker 12: what does you have? Three more years goes away? In
Speaker 12: three years, it's gone. So we've got whole states Colorado
Speaker 12: right now, for example, the state of Washington doing bowel initiatives,
Speaker 12: because this pulls eighty five five percent of parents, whether
Speaker 12: you're a Republican a Democrat, whether you are pro choice
Speaker 12: or pro life, eighty five percent of parents in general
Speaker 12: do not want boys in their daughter's bathrooms, locker rooms,
Speaker 12: or on their sports teams. And so we have to
Speaker 12: take it directly to bad initiatives and state laws and
Speaker 12: handle this in other ways because President Trump cannot save
Speaker 12: us forever.
Speaker 1: All right, So Moms for Liberty the big rally at
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court January thirteenth at ten am. You'll be
Speaker 1: out there, hopefully you'll have decent weather for that. But
Speaker 1: you don't have to be a mom to join Mom's
Speaker 1: for Liberty, do you You don't.
Speaker 6: We have dads and.
Speaker 12: Uncles just concerned set of sins that are all part
Speaker 12: of our organization. We have seven chapters that are led
Speaker 12: by dads right now, so you could even you could
Speaker 12: even be in leadership if you would like to volunteer
Speaker 12: your time to saving America, saving our education system and
Speaker 12: preserving it for future generations. We have so many things
Speaker 12: coming up in twenty twenty six for America two fifty
Speaker 12: and maybe you can have me back on soon to
Speaker 12: talk about some of these big events for partnering with
Speaker 12: Glenn Back and Mercury one and some others.
Speaker 11: It's going to be fabulous.
Speaker 1: That is fantastic, well, Tina Diskovich. I always look forward
Speaker 1: to having a chance to talk to you and catch
Speaker 1: up and find out what's been going on with Moms
Speaker 1: for Liberty. Thank you so much for the time you
Speaker 1: do great work. I encourage you to keep up the
Speaker 1: great work in twenty twenty six and we will definitely
Speaker 1: have some conversations in the year ahead, so I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to that.
Speaker 6: Okay, talk soon. Have a great weekend.
Speaker 1: All right, there you go, Tina diskoviach Moms for Liberty,
Speaker 1: and all you got to do is google it if
Speaker 1: you want to find out more for Moms for Liberty,
Speaker 1: and it'll take you right to the website Moms for
Speaker 1: Liberty and you can find out about all the good
Speaker 1: stuff they're doing. Still a hate group though, according to
Speaker 1: the Southern Poverty Law Center, and I think that tells
Speaker 1: you only need to know about that organization. I'm Dan
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