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Speaker 1: It is nine oh eight. This is I almost said

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Speaker 1: it's a midweek crisis, but that was last night in

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Speaker 1: d Action, but not tonight. Sterling is enjoying a Friday

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Speaker 1: here as well. We are going to roll till midnight tonight.

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Speaker 1: Russ Jackson is running the big board in the seven

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Speaker 1: hundred WLW Command Center. Great to see Russ doing some

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Speaker 1: guest appearances running Russ? Is this going to become a

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Speaker 1: regular thing with you? Man, You're gonna be apparent? Apparently? Well,

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Speaker 1: he's he's getting roped in running the big board in

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Speaker 1: the seven hundred WLW Command Center. So I appreciate him

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Speaker 1: being here and everything he does. So when you call in,

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Speaker 1: make sure you say hello to Russ. Five one, three,

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Speaker 1: Big One. If you're thinking to yourself, you know what

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Speaker 1: I heard this guy on earlier today? You did? I

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Speaker 1: sat in for Bill Cunningham earlier today. And Dave Armbrewster

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Speaker 1: of us who sit behind the microphone, and he texted

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Speaker 1: me yesterday and he said, he said, man, I need

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Speaker 1: you to fill in for nine to midnight Friday night.

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Speaker 1: And I said, I'm there for you, buddy. So here

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Speaker 1: I am. And So I was doing the Cunningham Show

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Speaker 1: earlier today and it was a it was a great show.

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Speaker 1: If you didn't catch it, go back and listen to

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Speaker 1: it on the iHeart iHeart Media app. I don't know

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Speaker 1: And right as I was getting done with that show,

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Speaker 1: a video came out, another video of the shooting that

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Speaker 1: happened in Minneapolis and the shooting that took the life

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Speaker 1: of this woman and Renee Nicole Good. And this is

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Speaker 1: the video from the bodycam of one of the agents.

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Speaker 1: Actually it's the federal agent that got hit by the

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Speaker 1: car behind the pilot that she was driving. And this

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Speaker 1: video recks a lot of liberal narratives about what happened.

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Speaker 1: And a couple of nights ago was on the Wednesday

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Speaker 1: this and I was describing the video that was out then.

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Speaker 1: Since then, more videos, different angles have appeared, and I

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Speaker 1: was talking about the multiple videos that night. I think

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Speaker 1: and I was pretty convinced early on that the federal

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Speaker 1: agent that had to open fire on her did so

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Speaker 1: come completely justified. It's a it's a terrible incident that

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Speaker 1: had happened. I'm very sorry that this woman is dead,

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Speaker 1: but her own decisions, her own actions, brought it on herself.

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Speaker 1: And so the camera that was worn by the ice officer,

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Speaker 1: I think really settles a lot of things, especially this

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Speaker 1: There's a section of that video where the and and

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Speaker 1: but it doesn't really, it doesn't really you have to

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Speaker 1: And look, the the ice officer was not threatened by her.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, this is not Matt Vespa. This is Hudson

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Speaker 1: Krozer at the Daily Caller, and he writes at least

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Speaker 1: three federal agents were seen approaching the now deceased driver's

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Speaker 1: Get out of the effing car. One agent was heard

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Speaker 1: The agent then grabbed the car's door handle. A bystander

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Speaker 1: So initially and immediately after this incident happened, and some

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Speaker 1: The action of what took place was out of frame,

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Speaker 1: to be attempting to ram a federal agent. Good was

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Speaker 1: So I'm looking at these demonstrations in Minneapolis and there's

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Speaker 1: truth continues to come out. Let's go to Sharonville and

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Speaker 1: say hey to Bobby. Bobby you're on seven hundred WW.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for taking the call, my friend out there been

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Speaker 2: awful busy today covering two or three shifts.

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Speaker 3: We love a good patriot.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad to do it. You know, Bill Cunningham likes

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Speaker 1: to say he's a workhorse, not a show horse, and

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Speaker 2: My friend up in Minnesota, it was justifiable, you know,

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Speaker 2: shooting from the officer. You looked the left front wheel

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Speaker 2: of her vehicle, it was spinning in the ice, and

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Speaker 2: finally you'd hit pavement when it won shit that answer, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he was in front of that automobile. It was a

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Speaker 1: I think that's that's really the only the only way

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Speaker 1: A lot of times those videos don't really they don't

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Speaker 4: Okay, thank you, Dan, I appreciate it. You know, I've

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Speaker 4: Sense to me, and I think that's why this you

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Speaker 1: God bless you. Rex. Appreciate the phone call. I have

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Speaker 1: like the killing of George Floyd were regular parts of

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Speaker 1: the curricult one that last month, students took a field

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Speaker 1: trip where they learned about Aboriginal issues, a reference to

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Speaker 1: indigenous people and far away Australia. Why that's pertinent in Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: I have no idea. Coalitions similar to ice Watch have

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00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 1: cropped up all over the country, with activists using phone apps,

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Speaker 1: whistles and car horns to warn neighbors of when ice

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Speaker 1: shows up. So you've got these groups all over the country,

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Speaker 1: and apparently this woman was a mover and a shaker

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Speaker 1: within the group that she was aligned with. Ice Watch

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Speaker 1: recently shared an Instagram post on the group. The groups

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Speaker 1: that encourage agitators to bring items that would help them

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Speaker 1: barricade the streets. And that's another thing. I was watching

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Speaker 1: Laura Ingram last night and she was there in Minneapolis

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Speaker 1: and the Twin Cities, and she made the point that,

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Speaker 1: you know, these people, what do they do. They love

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00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 1: open borders. They want illegals streaming into, not not streaming into,

449
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Speaker 1: flooding into the United States, illegals all over the place.

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Speaker 1: Perfectly fine with them. They're perfectly fine with all the

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Speaker 1: fraud of the daycare centers and all the rest of it.

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Speaker 1: And then she noticed how they had their barricades there

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Speaker 1: and how they protected their own borders, how they really

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Speaker 1: didn't want people who weren't like them coming around to

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Speaker 1: ask questions or take pictures or take videos or maybe

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Speaker 1: have anyone that had a different idea than them. Don't

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Speaker 1: want to answer those pesky questions, and they actually policed

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Speaker 1: those borders, keeping people out, you know, the kind of

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Speaker 1: people that they don't want. So borders are okay for them,

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Speaker 1: but when it comes to America and the rest of us,

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Speaker 1: not so much. When Renee Good hit an ICE agent

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Speaker 1: in Minneapolis yesterday, it was the first time ICE agents

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Speaker 1: where the targets of the It was not the first

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Speaker 1: time ICE agents where the vehicles or the targets of

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Speaker 1: vehicle rammings cars are deadly weapons. There's plenty of legal

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Speaker 1: precedent to justify the ICE agent shooting good after she

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Speaker 1: struck him with her vehicle. In the last year, ICE

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Speaker 1: and Customs and Border Patrol agents have been involved in

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Speaker 1: more than one hundred such incidents. Federal Immigration officers were

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Speaker 1: injured in Saint Paul, Minnesota after a Cuban illegal rammed

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Speaker 1: ICE vehicles and struck agents. During the violent encounter on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: ICE officers identified Juan Carlos Rodriguez from Marrow and the

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Speaker 1: illegal alien from Cuba entered a white suv in Saint Paul, Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Conducted and there was a lawful traffic stop that was conducted.

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Speaker 1: When officers ordered Rameri to rolled out his window, he

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Speaker 1: allegedly refused, prompting warnings that they would break the window

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Speaker 1: if he continued to disobey lawful commands. Instead, Ramera drove

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Speaker 1: off and allegedly struck one of the officers while attempting

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Speaker 1: to flee. Here's another one. In October, an armed woman

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Speaker 1: was arrested after ramming agents in the Chicago area. In

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles, a man is facing prison time after ramming

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Speaker 1: his vehicle into federal law enforcement agents. So there's all

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Speaker 1: kinds of video out there of these incidents where they

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Speaker 1: are using cars to disrupt and ram and injure federal agents.

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Speaker 1: So this whole notion that she was using her car

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Speaker 1: as a weapon trying to disrupt or hurt or maybe

487
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Speaker 1: even kill a federal agent is not something that is

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Speaker 1: far fetched at all, because it happens all the time.

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Speaker 1: Amandro is car into the gate of an FBI facility

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Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh in September and November, Department of Homeland Security

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Speaker 1: said ICE and CPB, we're facing an unprecedented search in

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Speaker 1: vehicle rammings and attacks. In a statement, Department of Homeland

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Speaker 1: Security wrote, we are seeing the results of the left

494
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Speaker 1: constant demonization of the men and women of law enforcement.

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Speaker 1: Dangerous criminals, whether they be illegal, aliens or US citizens,

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Speaker 1: are turning their vehicles in the weapons attacking ICE and CBP.

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Speaker 1: Said Trish McLaughlin, Assisted Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.

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Speaker 1: Anyone who attacks law enforcement, especially using their vehicles, will

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Speaker 1: be prosecuted to the fallistics end of the law. Since

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Speaker 1: January twentieth, there have been ninety nine vehicle attacks against

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Speaker 1: federal law enforcement, more than double compared to the forty

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Speaker 1: seven during the same period last year. Seventy one vehicular

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Speaker 1: attacks against the Customs and Border Patrol since January twentieth

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Speaker 1: compared to forty five during the same time in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four. That is a fifty eight percent increase. Twenty

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Speaker 1: eight vehicular attacks against ice since January compared to just

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Speaker 1: two the same period of twenty twenty four. That is

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Speaker 1: a thirteen hundred percent increase. So do you think that

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Speaker 1: when these law enforcement professionals have their daily briefings and

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Speaker 1: they go out and talk about things before they go

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Speaker 1: out into the field and conduct these operations, do you

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Speaker 1: think they might talk about that. Do you think that

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Speaker 1: they are not keenly aware of these individuals who would

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Speaker 1: use their vehicles to attack them. I would think they are.

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Speaker 1: I would certainly hope they are, and I would think

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Speaker 1: that this is something that is foremost on their mind.

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Speaker 1: And then we had this from Rachel Maddow, who is

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Speaker 1: just just a complete idiot. Rachel Maddow says protesters in

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Speaker 1: America are close to being an unstoppable force against Trump.

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Speaker 1: So when when someone like Mattow goes out there and

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Speaker 1: says stuff like this, is that inciting violence and reckless behavior?

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Speaker 1: Is that rallying the troops to whatever leftist liberal cause

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Speaker 1: that they have. And I don't know where she comes

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Speaker 1: up with this, but she says, once you have three

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Speaker 1: point five percent of a population protesting against a dick

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Speaker 1: or an authoritarian, that is essentially an unstoppable force they

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Speaker 1: can't oppose. So she is calling for three point five

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Speaker 1: percent of the American people to take to the streets

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Speaker 1: and actively protest and demonstrate and become an unstoppable force

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Speaker 1: against Trump, because, according to her, he's an authoritarian and

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Speaker 1: a dictator. I'm looking at the video now coming in

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Speaker 1: from Minneapolis, and they are in front of a building.

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Speaker 1: It looks like a I don't know if it's a

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Speaker 1: federal building, but it's a building that has some large,

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Speaker 1: large plate glass windows in it. The whole front of

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Speaker 1: the building, it looks like the entrance to the foyer

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Speaker 1: area of this building. You've got multiple sets of double doors.

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Speaker 1: The whole front facade is all glass, and there are

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Speaker 1: people pounding on the glass as we speak. So will

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Speaker 1: that glass be intact in I don't know, ten minutes

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Speaker 1: from now, fifteen minutes from now, an hour from now,

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Speaker 1: come tomorrow morning. There is increase pounding on the glass.

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Speaker 1: So that's what's happening in Minneapolis right now. So we'll

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Speaker 1: keep you updated on that. Of course, you got guys

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Speaker 1: with cameras. Hey, this this is going to be well

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Speaker 1: documented from a video standpoint, because you've got people outn't.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea what building they are in front of,

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Speaker 1: but Fox News is saying protesters gathering for another night

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Speaker 1: of protest, and there are multiple It's it's like it

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Speaker 1: looks like Russ. You ever watch The Walking Dead? You know,

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Speaker 1: you know, you got those scenes in The Walking Dead

552
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Speaker 1: where all the all the zombies are are coming after

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Speaker 1: people and they're in a building and they're kind of well,

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Speaker 1: you know, like walking up to the glass and they're

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Speaker 1: you know, their hands are all all over the glass

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Speaker 1: and all that. That's kind of what that shot I

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Speaker 1: just saw kind of reminded me of that. But no,

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Speaker 1: I was talking about all the attacks on Ice Way

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Speaker 1: and I got to get to a break. Now let's

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Speaker 1: go go ahead, Well we will go ahead and do

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00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 1: that now, but no November thirteenth, criminal illegal alien Fremil

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Speaker 1: Salvador hit another vehicle, fled the scene before being apprehended

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Speaker 1: by Ice. And this just goes on to document the

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Speaker 1: incidents where you have these federal agents who are coming

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Speaker 1: under attack with people in their vehicles, but coming up

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Speaker 1: after the news top of the hour, Kurt Hartman's going

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Speaker 1: to be here, and the news broke last night about

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Speaker 1: the city manager of Cincinnati wanting to enter into a

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Speaker 1: settlement with the family of Rodney Hinton. Absolutely despicable, shameful

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Speaker 1: my way of thinking, there's no way this should be happening.

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Speaker 1: And there's all kinds of other stuff going on at Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: We'll get the judges thoughts on that as we roll

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Speaker 1: on till midnight tonight. It is Dan Carrolyn for Sterling

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Speaker 1: on this Friday night on seven hundred WLW seven hundred

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Speaker 1: WLW ten O seven, Dan Carolyn for Sterling tonight. Glad

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Speaker 1: to be here Sterling, taking a little time off. I'll

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Speaker 1: be here tomorrow, Hey Gary, Jeff Walker in the morning.

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Speaker 1: Gotta be a great day, so stick around for that. Meantime.

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Speaker 1: We go on till midnight tonight. Russ Jackson's running the

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Speaker 1: big board. Appreciate him being here five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 1: seven thousand if you want to get on board. Although

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Speaker 1: I do have a guest right now, and we say

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Speaker 1: hello to the one time Hamilton County common please Court

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Speaker 1: Judge Kurt Hartman and Kurt Great. Happy New year to

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Speaker 1: you man. I think this is the first time I've

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Speaker 1: had John in twenty twenty six. The heck are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing very well, Dan, great and always great to

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Speaker 3: be with you.

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Speaker 1: Great to great to be with you. Let me ask you.

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Speaker 1: And I was talking about this last night with Ken Kober.

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Speaker 1: He he had a source at city Hall who told

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Speaker 1: him that he needed to get this information out, that

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Speaker 1: he needed to act in order to stop this. And

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Speaker 1: and you know stop what, well stop this idea of

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Speaker 1: a settlement that was going to go to the family

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Speaker 1: of Rodney Hinton and Ryan Hinton right in Himton, the

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Speaker 1: eighteen year old shot and killed by a Cincinnati police officer.

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Speaker 1: Then the next day the father goes out and plows

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Speaker 1: down Larry Henderson, Hamilton County Sheriff's deputy, ending his life.

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Speaker 1: And the idea wait, when I mean from from a

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Speaker 1: legal perspective, how how do how does the city manager

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Speaker 1: come up with this notion that somehow a settlement is

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Speaker 1: going to be necessary here when the investigations into this

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Speaker 1: have cleared this police officer of any wrongdoing whatsoever. How

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Speaker 1: do how do you come up with this idea that,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe a few million dollars needs to be

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Speaker 1: paid out to this family.

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I think because unfortunately, we're now living, if you will,

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Speaker 7: in the world turned upside down when it comes to

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Speaker 7: radical Marxist progressives taking control of city governments.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 7: You know, you see what's going on out in Portland,

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Speaker 7: you see what's going on in Minneapolis St.

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Speaker 3: Paul, And we have that same type of elected leadership

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Speaker 3: here in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 7: Now, granted they have not gone so radical as some

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Speaker 7: of those cities, but.

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Speaker 3: When you look at.

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Speaker 7: We are where we are, you look where theyor parvel,

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Speaker 7: where you look at the city council members, where they

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Speaker 7: have been historically, you know, and where that the whole

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Speaker 7: Democratic Party, both nationally and locally, has gone. They have

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Speaker 7: this Marxist progressive eyeude, and here we have all this

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Speaker 7: poor black guy was shot. Forget the fact he had

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Speaker 7: a gun, pointed it at an officer and was shot

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Speaker 7: and killed by the officer, and even the Democratic county prosecutor,

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Speaker 7: Countie Pillage, said it was a justified shoot. You know,

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Speaker 7: but nothing prevents anybody from suing. You'll say someone's civil

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Speaker 7: rights were violated, et cetera. So you know, yeah, they

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Speaker 7: might be having a you know, the hidden family maybe

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Speaker 7: chest counting all.

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Speaker 3: We're going to sue. We're going to sue. But I'm

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Speaker 3: sorting if you fold.

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Speaker 7: Every time, you know, you get threats like that, you're

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Speaker 7: gonna get sued left and right. There are certain cases,

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Speaker 7: you know, I do civil rights things really from a

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Speaker 7: plaint of side, but there are certain cases that the

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Speaker 7: governments should be fighting. And it's separating that week from

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Speaker 7: the champ. What are the cases that should be fault

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Speaker 7: so you don't get a reputation of folding versus the cases.

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Speaker 3: That, okay, yeah there were some issues. We need to

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Speaker 3: get a result in this case.

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Speaker 7: Nothing is shot crying out that, hey, the city may

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Speaker 7: have this city may have some liability. Nothing shoot shoe,

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Speaker 7: you know, pointing to that. So what you've got driving

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Speaker 7: you know, if this is accurate, and you know, I

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Speaker 7: don't have any reason, uh to doubt Kencobra or his source.

649
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Speaker 7: But if you know, if this is going on, these negotiations,

650
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Speaker 7: it is just this radical Marxist politics of you know,

651
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Speaker 7: dee I, you know, diversity, the equity, inclusion and you know,

652
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,959
Speaker 7: white privilege, et cetera, all.

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Speaker 3: Driving into policy decisions. We've seen this already.

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Speaker 7: You know, even in the recent history with the City

655
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Speaker 7: of Cincinnati, they are paying eight million dollars in a

656
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Speaker 7: settlement to people who were rioting in the city of Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, and then yeah, I mean the word of

658
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Speaker 1: this settlement comes on the heels of the of that

659
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Speaker 1: one being a unanimously I might add, by by city

660
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Speaker 1: council and I think it was I think it was

661
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Speaker 1: Scottie Johnson who said, uh, you know, we can't as

662
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Speaker 1: a city send the message out that you can come

663
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Speaker 1: here commit crimes and then get paid for it. And

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Speaker 1: then right after he said that, he went in and

665
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Speaker 1: voted for the approval of this settlement. So so we

666
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Speaker 1: do that we send that message. In my opinion, that

667
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Speaker 1: is the exact message that we are sending. And now

668
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Speaker 1: we're talking about you know, I haven't seen a dollar

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Speaker 1: figure attached to this, but it's probably it's going to

670
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Speaker 1: be in the probably close to a million, maybe more

671
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Speaker 1: than a million. But now we're saying that if you're

672
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Speaker 1: a cop killer, we are going to make sure that

673
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Speaker 1: your family is made whole. I mean, what what what

674
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Speaker 1: are we thinking? What? What is? What? How can anybody

675
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Speaker 1: be thinking that this is the kind of message that

676
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Speaker 1: you want to send out? We had protests last night

677
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Speaker 1: in downtown Cincinnati, you know what I mean? These people

678
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Speaker 1: they had to be out there saying, uh, you know

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Speaker 1: what do I fill out a form? Am I going

680
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Speaker 1: to get a text message? You know? When do I

681
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Speaker 1: get my windfall of you know, maybe maybe five or

682
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Speaker 1: six or eight grand?

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Speaker 3: You know, and let's see that. And I'm going to

684
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Speaker 3: be doing public records. Puss.

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Speaker 7: Did those protesters last night have a parade permit to

686
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Speaker 7: take over the streets?

687
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Speaker 1: I don't think they did, or I don't think And

688
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Speaker 1: then and then the Signal ninety nine was on the

689
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Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Show on fifty five earlier this morning, and

690
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Speaker 1: Signal ninety nine was talking about the information that she

691
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Speaker 1: has is that the day that that that Rodney hitting

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Speaker 1: lost his mind was you know, the the the police

693
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Speaker 1: came to him and and as a favor to the

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Speaker 1: family before it got out into the public. They said,

695
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Speaker 1: this is the video. This is your son running from

696
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Speaker 1: the cop, dropping the weapon, picking it up, pointing at police.

697
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Speaker 1: That's why police shot and killed.

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Speaker 3: Right, I have no problems. Yeah, well I have no

699
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Speaker 3: problems with city officials sharing that problem and.

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Speaker 1: I I don't either. But the information is when that

701
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Speaker 1: video was shown that that Rodney hitting Junior took a

702
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Speaker 1: swing to the police chief, so that that is a

703
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: crime right there. So instead of arresting him, just let

704
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Speaker 1: him go, you know, you know, cool, cool off a

705
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: little bit, and then he goes over and uh and

706
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Speaker 1: ends the life of Larry Henderson.

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Speaker 7: I mean, and you got Iris Rolly sticking her nose

708
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Speaker 7: in all of that businesses.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's the other component of this. I mean, it's

710
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Speaker 1: it's it seems that I mean, if and look, I mean,

711
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Speaker 1: all these things are going to be looked at. And

712
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Speaker 1: there was information out there today that Iris Rolly was

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Speaker 1: on the scene when Rodney Hitton was killed, interfering with

714
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Speaker 1: the police investigation, coaching people who may have been witnesses,

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Speaker 1: all the rest of it.

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Speaker 3: You mean, when when Deputy Henderson was killed.

717
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Deputy Henderson, Yeah, yes, And then this is the

718
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Speaker 1: kind of information and.

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Speaker 7: Uh, it actually had her in the police car because

720
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Speaker 7: she was interfering with the investigation. I'm sorry you I

721
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Speaker 7: ed do anything like that. We're being arrested and charged

722
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Speaker 7: with a phone appropriately. So why do we have a

723
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Speaker 7: double standard that Iris Rolly gets a blank check by

724
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Speaker 7: this city administration to interfere with law.

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Speaker 3: Enforcement and doing their jobs.

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Speaker 7: And the reason is we've got leadership in the city

727
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Speaker 7: of Cincinnati that is no different than the leadership in Minneapolis, Portland, Oregon, wherever.

728
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Speaker 1: But they're they're paying. They're paying her six hundred grand

729
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Speaker 1: through I think twenty twenty six. She's got a contract

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Speaker 1: with the city. I think. I think in the this

731
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Speaker 1: this may turn out to be one of the biggest

732
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Speaker 1: scandals this city has ever had. Well, I think, well,

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Speaker 1: it just it just looks. It looks terrible. It looks

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Speaker 1: I mean, it looks like we have a city manager

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Speaker 1: that is completely incompetent. It looks like the only the

736
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Speaker 1: only problem solving skill this city manager has is to

737
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Speaker 1: dig into the treasury and just shovel out as much

738
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Speaker 1: money as she possibly can.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, let's look at two things.

740
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Speaker 7: When Sherlong was incompetent to be city manager, from day one.

741
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Speaker 3: She was a DEI hire for political correctness for this mayor.

742
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Speaker 7: No other requalification did she have, and she has confirmed

743
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Speaker 7: her incompetence from day one.

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Speaker 3: I think the second thing, I forget where I was

745
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Speaker 3: going to go with this. But oh Dan, though, look

746
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 3: at this.

747
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 7: Though we all knew the general gist of the lack

748
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 7: of leadership, about the radical politics of the city leadership,

749
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Speaker 7: both the city Council and the mayor.

750
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 3: And what did the people of Cincinnati do.

751
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 7: Re elect this mayor with eighty percent of the vote,

752
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Speaker 7: and reelect eight out of nine of the council members

753
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 7: and put the others for progressive only because ninth one

754
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 7: wasn't running for re election, and they put this another

755
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 7: you know, far left progressive on city council. This is

756
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Speaker 7: what the people of Cincinnati just voted for. And I'm sorry,

757
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, you know, thankfully I don't live in the

758
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Speaker 7: city of Cincinnati.

759
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Speaker 3: I would never want to.

760
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Speaker 7: Live in the city of Cincinnati the way it is

761
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Speaker 7: being governed right now, and it is not going in

762
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Speaker 7: the right direction.

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Speaker 3: And you know, but one thing also, you know that

764
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Speaker 3: kind of pop pause and look at this, you know, I.

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Speaker 7: Kind of say, where is the business leadership in all

766
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Speaker 7: of this, you know, yea, you know they're they're they're

767
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 7: that an organization.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you're familiar with it or not, the.

769
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Speaker 7: Cincinnati Business Committee. Yes, yeah, you know, and you know

770
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Speaker 7: I was just looking at that. They're basically they're how

771
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Speaker 7: they described themselves. The see it's called the CDC, the

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00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 7: Cincinnati Business Committe. It's an organization of chief executives of

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Speaker 7: the Greater Cincinnati aut of area committed to identifying and

774
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Speaker 7: providing leadership on selected issues that the members consider especially

775
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 7: important to the long term economic, vitality.

776
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Speaker 3: And well being of the greater Cincinnati community.

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Speaker 7: It's like the cream of the crop, if you will,

778
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 7: of business leadership. Top thirty, you know, no more than thirty,

779
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 7: the top thirty leaderships.

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Speaker 3: We're talking you know, P and G. It used to

781
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 3: be P and G. Macy's fifth thirds.

782
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: Those type of leaders.

783
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Speaker 3: Where where the heck are they?

784
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Speaker 1: That's a good question.

785
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, you know, someone we've got to start.

786
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 7: Calling them out. I mean, I give you John Barrett

787
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 7: has come out a little bit and spoke a little

788
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 7: bit about this recently or a couple of months ago,

789
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 7: But they've to be more vocal. I'm sorry that they

790
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 7: want to talk about the economic vitality of the greater

791
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 7: Cincinnati area, and Cincinnati is the core, and that's critical

792
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 7: the business community. The business leadership is absent. So what

793
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 7: we have is an absence of leadership on the political side,

794
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 7: and we have an absence of leadership on the business side.

795
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Speaker 1: And then the mayor is the mayor has the hutzba.

796
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Speaker 1: Earlier this week at the inauguration, during his inaugural address,

797
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: this says this makes it, decides that's a fine time

798
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: to advocate for a tax increase, and essentially says, hey,

799
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: look we we We've had all this talk about city

800
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: safety and policing and getting our act together and all

801
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: the rest of it. And then he says, you want

802
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: city safety, We're gonna need some more money. I mean

803
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: that absolutely despicable. And at the same time he's able

804
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: to turn down free help from the from the state

805
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 1: and the Ohio State and all and Governor de Wine

806
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: and when you know, when he did do it, that

807
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: would just do it a couple of days a week,

808
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 1: and then he comes and says, look, we're gonna have

809
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: public safety. We need more money, no.

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Speaker 7: You know, and to circle back to the whole hint

811
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Speaker 7: in this potential settlement that that's happening, you know, behind

812
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 7: closed doors. You know what message does that send to

813
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 7: the rank and file police?

814
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: Oh it's ken kber is just besides I look, I've

815
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: talked to ken kbra a lot, and uh, I've never

816
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: seen him this agitated about a particular issue. It is

817
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: an absolute disgraceful slap in the face not only the

818
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,479
Speaker 1: Cincinnati police, but the Hamilton County Sheriff's deputies as well.

819
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, you know, but but when you when you

820
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 3: have the mayor and the city manager essentially throwing law

821
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 3: enforcement under the bus.

822
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Speaker 7: You know, they did it already with that riot settlement,

823
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 7: that eight million dollar settlement to people who were breaking

824
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 7: the wall and got arrested, the city's paying them off.

825
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 7: And now if this is going forward with the heat

826
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Speaker 7: and san family on a justified shooting that the Democratic

827
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 7: prosecutor said was a justified shooting, what type of leadership

828
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Speaker 7: is that providing you want to talk about law enforcement

829
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Speaker 7: and public safety, that undermines.

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Speaker 3: It from the get go.

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Speaker 1: Well, and a look, I don't know, I don't I

832
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: don't know any of the people who are involved in

833
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: the in the in the law office, the legal office

834
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: down at City Hall that that advises the city manager

835
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: on these issues. But but I see these interviews from

836
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Speaker 1: from whoever speaks to the media from that particular office,

837
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Speaker 1: and they always talk about, well, we could go to court,

838
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: we could be facing a big jury settlement. You know,

839
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: typically in cases like this, they get you know, they

840
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: get thirty million dollars and we're only going to pay

841
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: eight million dollars. So this is this is really a

842
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: good deal. And I'm like, no, no, it's not a

843
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: good deal. Look at the facts. I mean, you know,

844
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: there no one was at fault when John Cranley issued

845
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: that curfew and told people not to be on the

846
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: streets back in twenty twenty, and no one was at

847
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Speaker 1: fault at least a Cincinnati police officer in the Cincinnati

848
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Speaker 1: Police Department was not at fault when this young eighteen

849
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: year old kid ran from them, Ryan Hinton Junior, and

850
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: pointed a gun at a Cincinnati cop and paid for

851
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: it with his life.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and let me go this back from my days

853
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Speaker 7: on the back. I mean, I've been practicing law for

854
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 7: thirty years now, right in my time on the bench,

855
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Speaker 7: Cincinnati Jurrys.

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Speaker 3: Hamilton County jurys have not been very.

857
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Speaker 7: Plain and friendly in terms of verdict towards. Now, granted

858
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 7: that's been a few years. The dynamics of the whole

859
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 7: county has really changed dramatically, you know, with this hard

860
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Speaker 7: left progressive attitude taking over.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's changed a little bit.

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Speaker 7: But historically Hamilton County jurys do not give big awards

863
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Speaker 7: in cases.

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Speaker 3: So if they're worried about all, we might be. Yeah, maybe,

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Speaker 3: but you know what, recognize where.

866
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,959
Speaker 7: You're playing, you know where you're trying a case at,

867
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 7: and the reputation is a plaint of friendly jury, and

868
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 7: when you deal with the facts that you just laid out,

869
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 7: both in terms of the Rioters and Hinton, I'd be

870
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 7: hard pressed to see it even going.

871
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 3: To a jury. I could see a judge throwing it

872
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,919
Speaker 3: out in a heartbeat thing there is no case here. Yeah,

873
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 3: there's nothing for the jury to decide. If go to

874
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 3: the jury, the jurors are not going to award a

875
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 3: big number.

876
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:22,439
Speaker 1: I would I would think.

877
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 2: So.

878
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: The whole notion that you're going to pay off the

879
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 1: family of a of a cop killer just uh it

880
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: it it I just I just I still can't get

881
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: my head around that particular idea. Before I let you go, though,

882
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: Charlie luken Was did an interview with the Cincinnati Enquirer

883
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: and he is telling city Hall, hey, look, you've got

884
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,720
Speaker 1: that one point six billion dollars from the railroad settlement.

885
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: It's time to start spending some of that money. Now

886
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: what Yeah, I mean you were you were involved in this. Uh,

887
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: there's this whole one point six million billion dollars. And

888
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 1: Charlie Looking is saying, look, man, yeah, you've only spent

889
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 1: I think what four point five million, and you've already realized,

890
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: you know, you're gonna get more than twenty six million

891
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: a year. And I mean, you know, the numbers are

892
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: all over the place, but you know what, what is

893
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: going on with this money? I mean, are we gonna

894
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: wind up having a problem with this now that we

895
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: you know, we have all this money rolling in this

896
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: well from this one point six billion dollars. And Charlie

897
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: Looking is saying, look, it's time to start spending some

898
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: of this. The streets are terrible around here.

899
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 7: And the thing is, and the scary part is, I

900
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 7: don't trust a half cap purevelle. I don't say Sarah

901
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 7: long with any money. But what are they what are

902
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 7: they holding this money for?

903
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 3: Where do they look? You know, what what is their conspiracy?

904
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 3: If you will, you know, if you.

905
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 7: Will, just screw over the people of Cincinnati, because they

906
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 7: really don't have I think the people of Cincinnati at

907
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 7: their pride, their primary interest. And unfortunately those same people

908
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 7: re elected them, or reelected that mayor, Parvel, re elected

909
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 7: any counties.

910
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, they're they're reaping.

911
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 7: What they're sewing. But hey, you get the government they

912
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 7: voted for. And I'm sorry, I would not be proud

913
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 7: of this type of government.

914
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: They spent twenty six point eight million of the eighty

915
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: five million they've received so far the railway month, the

916
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: railroad money, well.

917
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 3: I know there are plenty of potholes throughout the city.

918
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: Absolutely that you know, nothing done.

919
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 7: It's a lack of leader I've always said it is

920
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 7: a lack of leadership from the mayor.

921
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 3: Is a lack of leadership from the city manager. They

922
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 3: don't have leadership skills.

923
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,760
Speaker 1: Charlie Lucan says, he comes up Sixth Street, he feels

924
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 1: like he's on a bumper car ride.

925
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what charl Lucan, a Democrat, that's Charli Lukan's

926
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 7: a Democrat, you know. But Charli Lucan is, if you will,

927
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 7: a historical He's historically a democratic.

928
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: He's at Cincinnati kind of democrat that was a fiscally

929
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: conservative and maybe uh, you know, socially a you know,

930
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: a little bit off to the left. But yeah, but

931
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: he knew Brisklaster.

932
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 7: And Charlie is not, was not and is not has

933
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 7: not drank the Marxist progressive kool aid.

934
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: Thank god, he's got away with words. Feels like a

935
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: bumper car ride. That's pretty good.

936
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 3: There we go.

937
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: Hey, Kurt, I appreciate the chat tonight, man. I know

938
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: you're you're on vacation, and happy new Year to you

939
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: and all the best. And we will definitely be having

940
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: some conversations in twenty twenty six and I always look

941
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 1: forward to that.

942
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 3: Great always great to be with you.

943
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: Thank you, Dan. All right, there you go, Kurt Hartman,

944
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: enjoy your vacation. I appreciate the time. Ten twenty six.

945
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: We're going to get to a break and news coming

946
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: up at the bottom of the hour, and if you

947
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 1: want to pick up the phone five one three, seven

948
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: four nine seven thousand, one eight hundred, The Big One

949
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW. Tig got the Big One seven

950
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: hundred WLW ten thirty six going on till midnight tonight,

951
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: Dan Carolyn for Sterling, So h A lot of the

952
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: stuff that Sterling talks about we are not talking about tonight.

953
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: So that's just that's just the way it breaks down.

954
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: Sterling talks about a lot of stuff that I don't

955
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: talk about, which is perfectly fine. Ah Man, did you

956
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: know there was another incident involving ice in Portland, Oregon

957
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 1: that happened. I want to say it was a day

958
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: before yesterday and there was a couple of suspects in

959
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: a car that this was another ramming of and this

960
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 1: was not ICE agents but CPB Customs and Border Patrol.

961
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 1: And just a little while ago, the Portland Police Chief

962
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: came out with a statement and confirmed what the Department

963
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 1: of Homeland Security said about this from the very beginning.

964
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: There were two suspects in this case, and they confirmed

965
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: that the suspects are connected to the Venezuelan gang trend

966
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: de Argua and they're implicated in a July twenty twenty

967
00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 1: five shooting in Portland, Oregon. This was not an innocent

968
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: married couple despite what Democrats and many of much of

969
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: the left wing media had to say about this event,

970
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: and the chief was talking about this and the city said,

971
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 1: shame on the politicians who spread false information to stoke

972
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: fear and under my law enforcement score political points. So

973
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: these individuals who did this in Portland definitely ow an

974
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: apology for their for their behavior on this. I mean,

975
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 1: it is absolutely this is trumped arrangement syndrome. It is

976
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: absolutely sick and disgusting, and it really has just gone

977
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: so far over the edge when you look. I mean,

978
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: politicians have never been, as a group the most honest

979
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: people on the planet. I think we can all agree

980
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 1: with that. But at least on matters of law and order,

981
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: right and wrong, and when it comes to supporting law enforcement,

982
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: I mean, can't we have at least some honesty there

983
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: instead of trying to push a political narrative every time

984
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: an incident takes place. I mean, it really just is disgusting.

985
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: Let's go to Dan and Chevy and see what Dan's

986
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: got tonight, Dan seven hundred wlwh No.

987
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 5: This is Dan and Chevy and not Dan and Union.

988
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: Dan and Chevy, I said, I said, Dan and Chevy.

989
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: I think anyway I'm pretty sure you're all right, Bet

990
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: you all right? What's going on?

991
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 5: So tonight I was walking by at work and there

992
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 5: was two guys discussing the Ice shooting and running over things.

993
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 5: All right, One guy with the vet and he was like, look,

994
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,919
Speaker 5: it's pro you know, he's pro police. The other guy,

995
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 5: nice guy, very sharp. He's like, well, it needs to

996
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 5: be de escalation, blah blah blah. I asked him if

997
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 5: he saw the whole video and need not. We showed

998
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 5: him the video and he was so like upset that

999
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 5: he was wrong and like brainwashing. He doubled down. He

1000
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 5: wanted to hate Ice so bad and like the escalation.

1001
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 5: So I was like, well, guns and cars both kill people.

1002
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 5: I said, cars killed more people than guns. I said, heck,

1003
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 5: we had a deputy in Cincinnati ran over by a guy. Like,

1004
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 5: there's proof right there. And those were your first two stories.

1005
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 5: I was like, well, perfect. And then another thing that

1006
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 5: a lot of people don't know is that same Ice

1007
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 5: guy that just got hit yeh had got hitting before

1008
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 5: and had thirty six something stitches. Yeah, so after I'm

1009
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 5: getting hit and getting thirty six stitches, I'm not waiting

1010
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 5: around for someone else to run.

1011
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: Well, I mean that that guy's got experienced, he knows,

1012
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: he knows how fast these things can get out of control.

1013
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: And we had we had if you remember, we had

1014
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: a Cincinnati police officer, and this goes back several years. Uh,

1015
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: Kevin Craon was his name, and he was in part

1016
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: of his traffic stop I want to say, was up

1017
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 1: in Mount Airy and uh and the and the I

1018
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: think there was a young person who was behind the

1019
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: wheel and may have been underage, and Kevin Crayon got

1020
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: tangled up with that vehicle and that driver took off,

1021
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: sped on down the road and Kevin Craon lost his

1022
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: wife because because of an incident involving a car. So

1023
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: it can happen very very quickly. And again you have

1024
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: that even less than a split second to make that decision.

1025
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 5: It's well, I just feel bad because the guy's a nice,

1026
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 5: sharp guy. He's just been something that's led and he

1027
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 5: wants to do something, but his energy's on the wrong place.

1028
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 5: So my whole point is cars kill more people than guns.

1029
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 5: Why is that treated different than pointing a gun?

1030
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: It's oh, you're absolutely right, now, how is it that

1031
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: that he was because that video you can't you can't

1032
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 1: open up your phone or log onto the internet without

1033
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: seeing that video. How is it that he was not

1034
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: able to see that video over the last three or

1035
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: four days or however long it's been. Oh, he hung

1036
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: up on me. They had I had us for good

1037
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: story though guy had not seen the video and only

1038
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 1: knew the narrative that he was hearing on whatever wherever

1039
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: he gets his news. And then when he saw the

1040
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: video realized that, you know what. But good for him.

1041
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: Good for him that he can realize that he had

1042
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 1: been processing not complete information the whole time. So a

1043
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 1: good call. Thanks for that call, Dan and Chevy. I

1044
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: appreciate that Donald Trump announced earlier today that he has

1045
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: called off a previously anticipated second wave of strikes on Venezuela,

1046
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 1: citing improved cooperation with the country's interim government. I think

1047
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 1: that's good news. The announcement comes just a week after

1048
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 1: the US operation that resulted in the capture and arrest

1049
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 1: of the Venezuelan dictator, Nicholas Mduro, and days after the

1050
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 1: President said a second attack was on the table if

1051
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: the new government did not behave So you folks and Venezuela,

1052
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 1: you've got to behave In a true social post, the

1053
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 1: President revealed he had canceled those strikes, saying the new

1054
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 1: government is now working well with the US on rebuilding

1055
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: its oil and gas infrastructure and releasing large numbers of

1056
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 1: political prisoners. President made clear, however, that he will maintain

1057
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 1: control over Venezuela for an undefined extended period of time

1058
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: until the country is fully stabilized. And you know, I'm

1059
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I'm not sure I have and I've

1060
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: talked to a couple of different experts on this. I'm

1061
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: not sure I have a complete understanding of why this

1062
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 1: policy is being ruled out the way it is. Trump's

1063
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 1: announcement comes less than a day after he said strikes

1064
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: were being prepared against drug cartel facilities. Despite canceling the

1065
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 1: second wave of strikes, Trump said US naval assets would

1066
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 1: remain in place for the time being, which I guess

1067
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 1: is a good thing. There was another tanker that was seized.

1068
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 1: I had that, and I think this makes five tankers

1069
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 1: now that that have been seized by the military. I

1070
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: guess it's their joint operations. But the military seized a

1071
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: fifth tanker in the Caribbean Sea. They announced that earlier today.

1072
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: Marines and sailors from the Joint Task for Southern Spear

1073
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: launched from the Gerald R. Ford in a pre dawn

1074
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 1: operation apprehending the Oleina without incident. And Southern Command said

1075
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 1: the operation received support from the Navy's Amphibious Ready Group,

1076
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 1: including the USSE He would Regima San Antonio Fort Lauderdale.

1077
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: So once again, our joint our joint forceressent a clear

1078
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 1: message this morning. There is no safe haven for criminals,

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Speaker 1: said the US Southern Command. Now let's see, here's what

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Speaker 1: Christy Noam had to say about it. She put it

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Speaker 1: out on x Early this morning, the Coastguard executed a

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Speaker 1: boarding and seizure of the motor tanker Oleina in international

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Speaker 1: waters east of the Caribbean as another ghost fleet tanker

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Speaker 1: ship suspected of carrying and bargoed oil this vessel. This

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Speaker 1: vessel had departed Venezuela attempting to evade US forces. A

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Speaker 1: close coordination with the Department of War, State Department, Justice

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Speaker 1: Department ensured a safe, effective boarding consistent with law. The

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Speaker 1: ghost fleets will not outrun justice. They will not hide

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Speaker 1: under false claims of nation. The Coastguard will seize sanctioned

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Speaker 1: oil tankers and force US international law and eliminate these

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Speaker 1: funding streams for illicit activity, including narco terrorism. We are

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Speaker 1: deeply proud of the Coastguard in the Maritime Fighting Force

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Speaker 1: for their relentless execution of this mission. This is owning

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Speaker 1: the sea. And so there's some video some of that

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Speaker 1: green greenia whatever that video comes. I guess maybe it's

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Speaker 1: a drone, but it seems like the picture would be

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Speaker 1: a lot better. I mean it's a you know, it

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Speaker 1: kind of looks like like a negative on a photograph

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Speaker 1: used to look not not the sharpest video that you

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Speaker 1: will ever see. Let's go to Mason and say hey

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Speaker 1: to Vince. Vince here on seven hundred WLW, what's.

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Speaker 5: Up, Hey, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 8: Hey Dice shooting that everybody's talking about in the video

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Speaker 8: that's actually going around everybody's looking at Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I got a chance.

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Speaker 8: You look at the body cam today. The mississ didn't

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01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 8: send it to me, and it gives a whole new

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Speaker 8: meaning to the actual situation that I'm going to encourage

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Speaker 8: anybody listening to go off with what people are telling you.

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Speaker 8: Take a look at the actual body cam of that

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Speaker 8: gentleman and seeing what he was actually going through before

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Speaker 8: you start passing judgment on him, he actually stopped the

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Speaker 8: criminal from running them over.

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Speaker 1: Well, I was talking about that in the in the

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Speaker 1: first hour of the show tonight, and I think it's interesting.

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Speaker 1: Uh there's a did you see the version where the

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Speaker 1: partner of the woman who who drove the car is

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Speaker 1: talking to the ice agent there and saying, you want

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Speaker 1: to come at us, you want to come at us,

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Speaker 1: you better pack a lunch. Did you see that part?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 8: I did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So all that I think that that helps to

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Speaker 1: or goes a long way and confirming this narrative that

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Speaker 1: these people were agitators, that they were out there, as

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Speaker 1: The New York Post reported as trained adjutive and individuals

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Speaker 1: who were out there for the purpose of interfering with

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Speaker 1: these uh, with these operations of these law enforcement officers.

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Speaker 8: Definitely right on the button, my friend and the rest

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Speaker 8: of these people that are saying that was a murder

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Speaker 8: and everything else, Actually a murder was prevented because the

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Speaker 8: young lady that was behind the wheel actually meant to

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Speaker 8: do damage.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I didn't play I didn't play the audio of that

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Speaker 1: on the show tonight because I just don't think it

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Speaker 1: works on radio. I think you really have to see

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Speaker 1: it and see what's going on, because you hear, you

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01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 1: hear voices from off camera, you hear sirens, you hear

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01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 1: you know, engines being revved up and things like that,

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Speaker 1: and so it's it's I think from a context perspective,

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01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 1: just hearing the audio doesn't really do justice. But you

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Speaker 1: have to admit, Vincent, and I appreciate you calling on

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Speaker 1: this that the moment the car makes it makes impact

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01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: with that ice agent, that is very telling that that

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01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 1: that officer got hit hard by that car. And I

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01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 1: don't know, there's there's no denying that.

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Speaker 8: I agree one hundred percent. And it's actually criminal the

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01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:11,439
Speaker 8: way that some of the politicians are trying to stow

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01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 8: up more problems, trying to say that it is something

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01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 8: it's not just to get more people agitated, more people

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Speaker 8: to be aggressive.

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Speaker 1: Well that's the problem. And they're and they're going to

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Speaker 1: keep doing it because like I said, it's Trumped arrangement syndrome,

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01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 1: and they and they want anything they can do to

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01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 1: hurt Trump and and further their agenda is what they're

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Speaker 1: going to do. And it doesn't matter if the truth

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Speaker 1: is involved, it doesn't matter if someone is dead, It

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01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if there there may be other people acting

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Speaker 1: out in a way that could hurt them or hurt others.

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Speaker 1: It's simply that's just collateral damage. As long as they're

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Speaker 1: out there doing what they can and further into of

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01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 1: their agenda, that's the only thing that matters. And it's

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Speaker 1: it's really it's getting to a point where it's really sick.

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Speaker 8: I agree one hundred percent. And things, unfortunately, are going

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Speaker 8: to get more dangerous because we have I'm guessing about

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01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 8: twenty percent of our nation that blindly follows because identity politics,

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Speaker 8: what they're being told versus using the sense guy gave

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Speaker 8: him and take a look at the actual facts.

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Speaker 6: I'm an independent, I'm not on.

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Speaker 8: The Republican side all the time, but I end up

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01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 8: usually voting more conservatives by nature, because it only makes

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Speaker 8: sense as to what's good best of this country. And

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01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 8: these people need to get rid of the Trump the

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01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 8: Trump's Drange sent them. That got going on just because

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Speaker 8: they're being told by their leaders. They need to start

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Speaker 8: thinking from themselves. Critical thinking is very.

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Speaker 1: Important, Vince. I appreciate the phone call tonight. Take care brother,

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Speaker 1: there you go. Well, good for Vincent Mason, A really

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01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 1: good phone call right there, and a guy makes a

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01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:46,639
Speaker 1: ton of sense. And like I said, if you didn't

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Speaker 1: hear the first hour of the show, I was talking

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01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 1: about that that video that came out. I was in

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01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 1: earlier today for Cunningham, and right towards the end of

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01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 1: the Cunningham Show was when that video came out. So

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Speaker 1: I didn't really have time to look at it and

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01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 1: die jested and be able to talk about it in

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Speaker 1: a meaningful way. But between shows tonight I was, I

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Speaker 1: was at home. I looked at it multiple times, and

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01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 1: it is It is very telling how that particular point

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Speaker 1: of view drives home this notion that this was a

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Speaker 1: very serious incident and all this stuff about we just

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Speaker 1: could have shot the tires or jumped out of the

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Speaker 1: way or done something miraculous. No, it doesn't work that way,

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Speaker 1: doesn't work that way. What else is going on? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I love that? I love the Scott Descent was on

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Speaker 1: with Loura Ingram last night and they were talking about

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Speaker 1: what's going on with the Somali welfare scan and so

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Speaker 1: the Treasury Secretary has come up with a plan that

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Speaker 1: that is going to help the American tax He says

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Speaker 1: the the that we, the American citizens, it turns out,

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01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 1: unbeknownst to us, are apparently the biggest funder of a

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Speaker 1: terror organization linked to Al Qaeda, and Scott cent and

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump say it's not going to happen anymore. So

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Speaker 1: here's what Scottsent, speaking on Fox News Thursday night, announced

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Speaker 1: that those who were on public assistance must check a

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Speaker 1: box before sending remittance abroad, and that the administration would

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Speaker 1: be pushing regulations which would forbid those on public aid

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01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 1: from sending money to other countries. It seems like such

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Speaker 1: a simple idea. It is absolutely in my opinion, it

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Speaker 1: is absolutely brilliant. If you are receiving aid from the

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Speaker 1: federal government, then you have no business one dime overseas.

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense? If you are receiving largest from

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Speaker 1: the federal government, why are you receiving that because you

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01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 1: need it. You need it to pay your heat, you

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01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 1: need it to be able to have food on the table,

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01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 1: you need it for your medical bills. We should not

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01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 1: be in the business of subsidizing an individual, any individual,

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Speaker 1: and especially illegal aliens to the point to where they

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Speaker 1: have excess money sitting around and they can just ship

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Speaker 1: it overseas. Scott Pssent said, from now on, anyone who

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Speaker 1: wires money out from one of these money service businesses

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Speaker 1: has to check a box saying whether or not they

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Speaker 1: are on public assistance. And if you are on public assistance,

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01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 1: will start pushing that you cannot wire money out of

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Speaker 1: the country. When asked what happened if they didn't tell

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Speaker 1: the truth, he said, well, then that's a crime. Lying

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Speaker 1: on a federal form is a crime. I know, we

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01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:19,839
Speaker 1: don't like to, you know, hold people accountable for lying

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01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:25,839
Speaker 1: to the Feds, lying about things like this, lying about anything.

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Speaker 1: We don't like to hold people accountable for that. But

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Speaker 1: Scott besaid says, no, not anymore. You lie, you lie

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Speaker 1: in that federal form, you check that box saying you

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01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:41,640
Speaker 1: are not a Look to me, what you do with

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01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 1: your money should be your business. I largely feel buy

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01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 1: and large that what you do with your money is

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01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 1: absolutely no business of the federal government. But in this case,

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Speaker 1: you're talking about people who are on public assistance. They

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Speaker 1: are getting tax payer dollars from the federal government. So

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Speaker 1: my way of thinking, that makes it the government's business

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Speaker 1: to make sure that that money is being used for

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Speaker 1: what it's meant to be used for. It is meant

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Speaker 1: to help the individual who was receiving that money, not

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Speaker 1: meant to be shipped overseas the American people. Our generosity

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Speaker 1: has been taken advantage of, Assent, said. Our generosity is

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Speaker 1: funding Somali terror group Al Shabab and Iranian interest, said

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Speaker 1: Laura Ingram. He said the money is supposed to go for.

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Speaker 1: The money is supposed to go for alleged asylum seekers

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Speaker 1: in their families and children. If you're wiring money out

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Speaker 1: of the country, one of two things must be true.

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01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:54,799
Speaker 1: You are getting too much money and your benefits should

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Speaker 1: be cut, or you were part of this conspiracy. Sending

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01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,679
Speaker 1: money to terrorists is something that we should not abide

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01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 1: in any way, shape or form. And thank God for

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01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 1: someone like Scott Bscent who is going to take steps

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Speaker 1: to see that it no longer happens. We got to

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Speaker 1: get to a break news coming up the top of

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Speaker 1: the hour, and then in the eleven o'clock hour a

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Speaker 1: couple of more guests. I've got my buddy Curtis out

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Speaker 1: from NewsBusters dot Org, and we're gonna talk about the

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Speaker 1: way this whole thing has been covered and what the

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01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 1: media and again the whole notion of and it's something

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Speaker 1: that I say all the time that the American people

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01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 1: are poorly served by the national media, and in this

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01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 1: case it's not true across the board, but by and

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Speaker 1: large it is true. And we'll get into that. And

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Speaker 1: then my friend Tina Duskovich from Moms for Liberty, it's

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01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 1: been a while since we've had a little chat with her.

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Speaker 1: We'll catch up with Moms for Liberty and find out

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Speaker 1: what they're in through. And they've got a big event

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Speaker 1: coming up, so we will discuss that as we roll

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Speaker 1: on till midnight tonight. Dan Carroll inf Sterling on this

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Speaker 1: Friday night on seven hundred WLW, seven hundred WLW, I'm

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01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 1: Dan Carroll, glad to be here, Glad you are here

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01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 1: as well. Always glad to welcome in my next guest.

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Speaker 1: You know, one of the things I talk about a

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01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 1: lot behind this microphone is media, the national media, and

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01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 1: how things are covered by the national media. I have

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01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 1: a lot of criticism, and I think it's criticism that's

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01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 1: well learned because I spend so much time in television

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01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 1: and radio and I've got a pretty good idea how

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01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 1: things work behind the scenes and there's one place you

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01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 1: can go to get all the coverage of what is

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01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 1: happening in national media, and that is NewsBusters dot Org MRC.

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Speaker 1: And Curtis Holk is the managing ed of the there,

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01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 1: and I've had him on a lot, but I think

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Speaker 1: this is the first time we've had a chance to

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Speaker 1: talk in twenty twenty six. And Curtis hal Happy New

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Speaker 1: Year and welcome back to seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 9: If New York Dang could be with you.

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Speaker 1: Good to be with you as well. Give me and

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Speaker 1: first of all, before we do anything, I always like

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Speaker 1: to give credit where credit is due, because I am

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Speaker 1: I am very critical of the NBC's of the world,

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Speaker 1: the ABC's, the CBS's, the CNNs and all the rest

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Speaker 1: of it. New York Times, the LA Times, all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: But when something happens that deserves credit, I want to

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Speaker 1: give credit. And NBC News in the day after the

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Speaker 1: day of the incident in Minneapolis where the ice agent

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Speaker 1: unfortunately had to shoot and kill that woman, Tom Lomas,

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Speaker 1: and they had an analyst there and they did a

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Speaker 1: segment that was honest, a segment that was forthright, and

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Speaker 1: they analyzed frame by frame the video from that scene

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Speaker 1: and they did an on I thought they did a

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Speaker 1: very honest and straightforward assessment of that. So I want

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Speaker 1: to give credit especially to Tom Lomas. I mean, this guy,

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Speaker 1: when he was making his bones, he was covering the

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Speaker 1: Trump campaign. You could always count on him being a

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Speaker 1: reliable Trump basher, a reliable tool for the left to

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Speaker 1: get the word of the agenda out there as best

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Speaker 1: he could. But in this instance, they did an honest

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Speaker 1: analysis of that video, frame by frame, and so at

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Speaker 1: least starting off this conversation, I want to give them

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Speaker 1: credit for that.

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Speaker 10: Well, you know, it is interesting to see the pivot

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Speaker 10: in the media that Yamas has been running a semi

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Speaker 10: decent newscast, a pretty decent newscast since he took over

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Speaker 10: for Lester Halt, and with what's going on at CBS

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Speaker 10: with Barry Wise and Tony Dakoppel, we could be looking

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Speaker 10: at a situation where two of the three network evening

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Speaker 10: newscasts aren't completely like unhinged liberal tears, liberal anger, gnashing

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Speaker 10: of teeth. But the reason that segment, I'll just say

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Speaker 10: real quick, is really good is because Tom Winner is

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Speaker 10: the law enforcement reporter there. It was almost like a

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Speaker 10: football play, you know, bringing it frame by frame, kind

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Speaker 10: of circling things, kind of pointing things out.

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Speaker 6: And he also did a good thing to him by saying.

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Speaker 10: Basically, talk about what they know and what they don't know.

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Speaker 10: And it's not weakness on the part of the news

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Speaker 10: media that if something is unclear, like we none of

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Speaker 10: us know what the woman was saying to these ice

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Speaker 10: officers in the moments beforehand.

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Speaker 9: If anything, but that's something that we may want to know.

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Speaker 10: It may enhance the picture of what happened the other day.

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Speaker 10: And you know, I think the media so often want

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Speaker 10: to reach a certain conclusion that fulfill.

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Speaker 9: Their preset biases that they're not.

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Speaker 10: Willing to step back and just be like, Okay, well

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Speaker 10: we know this, but we don't know this. And that's

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Speaker 10: really where we've run into a problem with trust in

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Speaker 10: the media.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you are one of those that gets

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Speaker 1: your main information, your main source of information is let's

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Speaker 1: say a news or let's say the Associated Press, the

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Speaker 1: only thing you really know about this is that a

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Speaker 1: woman who was minding her own business was gunned down

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Speaker 1: by a bloodthirsty ice agent at the direction of Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty much and maybe I'm exaggerating a little bit

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Speaker 1: Curtis out, but that's pretty much the message that they

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Speaker 1: wanted to get out there in their initial reporting of this.

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Speaker 11: Lemir.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, the AP headline here quote woman.

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Speaker 10: Killed by ice agent in Minneapolis was a mother of

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Speaker 10: three poets and new to the city. Yeah, oh wow, oh,

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Speaker 10: very stunning stuff. But I mean, I think multiple things

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Speaker 10: can be true here.

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Speaker 9: I mean, this thing was a tragedy.

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Speaker 10: This woman clearly, I mean, it was clear the Vice

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Speaker 10: president was absolutely right that she was radicalized by the left.

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Speaker 10: Maggie Vespa the NBC News went out on the Today

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Speaker 10: Show this morning and said that the Vice president's claims

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Speaker 10: about her being a radical leftist were without evidence, without evidence,

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Speaker 10: absolutely insane. But it does a disservice to the facts

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Speaker 10: of the case and her as well. And unfortunately this

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Speaker 10: has all been a result of the culture of haraffsment.

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Speaker 10: Scott Jennings the other day he talked about this being

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Speaker 10: a deadly consequence of political vigilanteism, you know, and the

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Speaker 10: difference between observe and obstruct law enforcement and calling law

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Speaker 10: enforcement gestapo. But I think the key here is that

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Speaker 10: this is going to be found likely to be awful

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Speaker 10: but legal. Tom Winner also said that earlier in the

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Speaker 10: day of the NBC's coverage in the moments thereafter, and

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Speaker 10: that's okay, But that kind of nuanced dand is not

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Speaker 10: allowed on CNN and MS. Now it's Trump administration, Ice, bad, evil,

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Speaker 10: stupid Jacob.

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Speaker 9: Fried, Tim Wall's good, you know.

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Speaker 10: I mean, it's a very black and white world for

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Speaker 10: these people, and it's hyperbolic, and it does the country

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Speaker 10: no good.

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Speaker 1: Well, and there's no condemnation of the really the hateful

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Speaker 1: and the violent and device of rhetoric that comes from

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Speaker 1: the left. You know, there were demonstrations in multiple cities

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Speaker 1: across the United States last night, Curtis out, including here

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Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, and I saw video today of these individuals

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Speaker 1: in Queens, New York. They were chanting that we support

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Speaker 1: hamas in other cities across the country, they were talking

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Speaker 1: about taking out the head of Homeland Security, Christy nom

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Speaker 1: and hanging them aric, talking about killing ICE agents and

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Speaker 1: things like that. Where's the national network reporting on that

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Speaker 1: sort of hateful rhetoric.

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Speaker 9: It has not been really anywhere.

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Speaker 10: I mean, the only thing I've seen is last night

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Speaker 10: Tony de Koppel interviewed the mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Frye,

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Speaker 10: and he.

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Speaker 9: Pointed out to him.

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Speaker 10: That, you know, you've got protesters in the streets saying

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Speaker 10: things like Nazis go home.

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Speaker 9: How are you helping the situation calm down?

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Speaker 10: And Fry's answer said, well, I appreciate that we in

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Speaker 10: Minneapolis are all about seeing with one accord, like excuse me.

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Speaker 10: You know, you have Tim Walls out there channeling his

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Speaker 10: democratic forefathers by talking about mobilizing the National Guard like

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Speaker 10: during the Civil Rights movement or something like that, you know,

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Speaker 10: and we this all comes to as we're talking about

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Speaker 10: the Somali community and the Somalis.

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Speaker 9: Oh my gosh, they built the city.

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Speaker 10: As Peggy Flannagan, the Lieutenant governor, and others have said,

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Speaker 10: it's such a disgusting and inhumane view of people when

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Speaker 10: they're criminals or in some cases, as Tom Homan has

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Speaker 10: talked about, they're victims of these leftist kind of slave

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Speaker 10: masters thinking that they rule over everyone.

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Speaker 1: You know, Purnis, I think about this, and I go

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Speaker 1: back and I look at a headline that was posted

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Speaker 1: from the Associated Press when this incident happened, and here's

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Speaker 1: the here's the headline from the Associated Press, the killing

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Speaker 1: of a nursing student out for a run highlights the

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Speaker 1: fears of solo female athletes. So, and this corresponds with

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Speaker 1: a text I saw on X and the individual said,

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Speaker 1: you know, if this woman in Minneapolis had been killed

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Speaker 1: by an illegal alien, we wouldn't be going through all

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Speaker 1: these changes that we're going through right now here in

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Speaker 1: the in the media or the debate on this. There

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Speaker 1: would be there would be no outrage at all.

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Speaker 10: None, none, whatsoever. I mean, I mean that's the thing too.

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Speaker 10: I mean, Jacob Fries come out. He took a question

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Speaker 10: this morning at a press conference, saying, well, you know,

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Speaker 10: people don't like my rhetoric or whatever, like, oh so

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Speaker 10: what I used a bunch.

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Speaker 9: Of F bombs.

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Speaker 10: I'm saying all these things, but you know this woman

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Speaker 10: is dead. Yes, Mayor Fry, Joscelyn Nungray and Rachel Morin

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Speaker 10: are unavailable to comment about whether your policy about not

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Speaker 10: allowing ICE to go into city jail to get out

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Speaker 10: illegal immigrants with ICE detainers is a go to bad policy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, we spent so much time wondering if

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Speaker 1: the media is ever going to change. And I had

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Speaker 1: a guest on my show last night, a guy named

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Speaker 1: Steve Oldfield. I used to work with him. He was

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Speaker 1: a he was a movie critic for many years. Now

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Speaker 1: he's he's doing his own documentaries. He's a professor at

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Speaker 1: at Thomas Moore University here in northern Kentucky, and he

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Speaker 1: he saw perilous. He he did a documentary about Nick Sandon.

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Speaker 1: You may remember Nick Sammon, the the Covington kid, and

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Speaker 1: you know, he was the one that was the initial

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Speaker 1: reporting came out that he was at the Washington Monument

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Speaker 1: or the Lincoln Monument and he was standing in the

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Speaker 1: face of this, you know, this this Indian dude who

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Speaker 1: was just trying to you know, the guy was being

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Speaker 1: very disrespectful. He had a mega hat on, and of

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Speaker 1: course he was a Trump supporter, so the media rushed

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Speaker 1: to judgment on this kid. It just told very fall

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Speaker 1: defamatory things about him, and he wound up with a

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Speaker 1: multimillion dollar settlement against against CNN that may have been

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Speaker 1: in the hundreds of millions of dollars. And he was

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Speaker 1: saying that he was seeing parallels between that coverage and

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Speaker 1: the coverage that surrounded this incident in Minneapolis, and he's

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Speaker 1: seeing some parallels there. And the question I have about

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Speaker 1: that is, you know, I think there was some soul

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Speaker 1: searching from media local and national about the way they

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Speaker 1: rolled this story out and how quickly they were putting

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Speaker 1: that false narrative out there because and I think the

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Speaker 1: same element drives that coverage as the coverage we're seeing

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Speaker 1: on this is that if this accrues to the negative

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Speaker 1: for Trump, then we are going to go ahead and

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Speaker 1: put it out there, and ethics be damned, damn the torpedoes,

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Speaker 1: We're going to put it out there, and if it

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Speaker 1: hurts Trump that is, you know, we'll deal with the

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Speaker 1: fallout later and clean up the mess later. And I

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Speaker 1: think we're seeing the same sort of thing then, as

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Speaker 1: we're seeing that.

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Speaker 10: Too often the national news media and unfortunately some local

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Speaker 10: folks as well, have to frame every news story through

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Speaker 10: a Trump angle. Does this benefit Trump? Can we work

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Speaker 10: Trump into the story somehow or not? You know, I

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Speaker 10: don't understand why they continue down this path, considering how

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Speaker 10: much fatigue I can pretty much guarantee there is. I

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Speaker 10: know that Paul Farkeey, a former Washington Post media reporter,

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Speaker 10: has been trying to get some anti Trump book published,

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Speaker 10: and he shared on social media the other day that

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Speaker 10: like publishers are basically like Yeah, we've reached a point

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Speaker 10: of saturation with these Trump books. Nobody's really buying them,

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Speaker 10: So you wonder if you're going to hit that point

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Speaker 10: in news as well. I mean, it's very disingenuous. And

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Speaker 10: the other point I'll just make is, in some of

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Speaker 10: these cases, it's too good to check. It's too good

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Speaker 10: to check for them because you've got to get to air.

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Speaker 10: And it's not just about rushing Terran being first, because yes,

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Speaker 10: I think that's one in claim, But the main thing

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Speaker 10: is is to get a set of narratives out there,

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Speaker 10: because it's very difficult to put the truthpaste back. And

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Speaker 10: then two, as we saw with Michael Brown and hands up,

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Speaker 10: don't shoot, it's very hard once a set of facts

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Speaker 10: are established, or that the president is a Russian agent,

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Speaker 10: that those kinds of things. The quicker you get those

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Speaker 10: things set and in the ether, the harder it is

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Speaker 10: to kind of reel things back in if once the

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Speaker 10: facts come out it's different than what they were promoting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you you mentioned the headline from that AP

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Speaker 1: story earlier, and if you look at the first sentence

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Speaker 1: of that story, they've got the term killed by an

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Speaker 1: Ice agent and Donald Trump in the same sentence. So

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01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 1: and that's not done by a mistake, that is done

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Speaker 1: on purpose. They want people to associate this woman being

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01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 1: killed with Donald Trump bottom line. And I mean it's

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01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 1: it's really it's it's sick and it's insidious. I mean,

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01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 1: it's really getting to the point. And we we know,

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01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 1: we see all these these uh different media pundits bemoaning

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01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 1: the fact that you know, there's no trust in the

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01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 1: media anymore, and somehow I guess that's Trump's fault too.

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01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:15,600
Speaker 1: But they have by and large, uh, if not one

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01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 1: hundred percent, brought the distrust that they enjoy from the

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01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:21,720
Speaker 1: American people at this point in time, they brought it

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Speaker 1: on themselves.

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Speaker 10: That's either getting mad at Tony da Koppel or they

1516
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:27,680
Speaker 10: did on New Year's Day when he put out his

1517
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 10: commentary saying that people don't trust the media and they

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01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:31,719
Speaker 10: have a right to not trust them.

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01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 9: UH.

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Speaker 10: An AP editor Nick Ricardi uh tweeted over it and

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01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 10: basically more or less said, well, you know, very often

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01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:45,839
Speaker 10: the customer is not always right, so basically screw them,

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01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:49,639
Speaker 10: And well, yeah, that's certainly true. There are certain uh

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01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:53,600
Speaker 10: facts that should not be in dispute, like what is

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01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:54,719
Speaker 10: a man and what is a woman?

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01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:57,560
Speaker 9: But I t crass you.

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01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 10: There have to there has to be some sort of

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01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 10: you know, recognition about trying to at least understand why

1529
01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 10: the public doesn't trust you. And instead it's this continuing

1530
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:08,480
Speaker 10: active sticking.

1531
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 9: Your head in the sand.

1532
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 10: And just being completely unapologetic and not willing to kind

1533
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:17,760
Speaker 10: of look at yourself in the mirror about what's going

1534
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:21,840
Speaker 10: And that's exactly and that's really exactly what we've been seeing.

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01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you make of the way this guy

1536
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 1: surely has been treated for the videos that he put

1537
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:32,080
Speaker 1: out walking around to the different daycare centers in Minneapolis

1538
01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:34,200
Speaker 1: and saying, hey, look there's no one here, and he's

1539
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 1: walking through the office buildings and hey, you know it's

1540
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:39,639
Speaker 1: a home healthcare service. Can I get some healthcare here?

1541
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 1: And you know, time after time he's showing the empty

1542
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 1: buildings and talking about all the millions they're getting from

1543
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:46,680
Speaker 1: the federal government and all the rest of that. And

1544
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 1: this guy is just being maligned from one end to

1545
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 1: the other. I think there was a time in this

1546
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 1: country where this guy would have been celebrated and said,

1547
01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 1: look at the courage, Look what this guy is doing

1548
01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:00,320
Speaker 1: going out there with it with his own camera, his

1549
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:03,680
Speaker 1: own on his own initiative, and doing the job that

1550
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:07,639
Speaker 1: your typical reporters ought to be doing. And I think

1551
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 1: there was some local reporting on this in Minneapolis that

1552
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:15,000
Speaker 1: was done years ahead of time when this story first broke,

1553
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:17,639
Speaker 1: I think was back in about twenty fifteen. But they

1554
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:19,880
Speaker 1: have this guy out there and they have Hi his

1555
01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:23,400
Speaker 1: name just smeared, and have his work pooh poohed by

1556
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 1: the national media. Is I look at that and that's

1557
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:29,639
Speaker 1: a disgrace instead of recognizing what this guy has gone.

1558
01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:33,120
Speaker 10: Out and done when it comes to Somali daycarees. I mean,

1559
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:36,560
Speaker 10: I mean, what's interesting is CNN in New York Times.

1560
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:38,680
Speaker 10: I just think of those two in particular, there are

1561
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:42,600
Speaker 10: stories about Somali daycare fraud. Has not been about investigating

1562
01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:45,799
Speaker 10: the particular claims. It has been trying to undermine Nick Sureley.

1563
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 10: Even these World News Tonight has only spent thirty five

1564
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:49,719
Speaker 10: seconds talking about Somali fraud.

1565
01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:53,400
Speaker 1: Period thirty five seconds, thirty five much unbelievable.

1566
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:57,599
Speaker 10: Only three and a half times more on the Somali

1567
01:30:57,640 --> 01:31:02,240
Speaker 10: population being victims of the Trumpet administration, and it's it's

1568
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:05,360
Speaker 10: just again more about the personal and attacking Nick Shirley. Oh,

1569
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:07,920
Speaker 10: he's just some conservative YouTuber, like he's not a real journalist.

1570
01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:09,840
Speaker 10: Did he go to journalism school? I mean, it's that

1571
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:15,400
Speaker 10: kind of infantile, juvenile attitude that we are so used

1572
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:17,479
Speaker 10: to from these folks. You just want to ask these

1573
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 10: people how old are you? Are you going to investigate

1574
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:21,960
Speaker 10: the actual merits of this or are you just going

1575
01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 10: to like attack him personally. I think they settled on

1576
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:27,559
Speaker 10: we're just going to attack him personally instead of trying to,

1577
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 10: you know, see about what's going on here, or they

1578
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:33,719
Speaker 10: just say without evidence and hope that people that aren't

1579
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 10: is tuned into the news, you know, slink away and

1580
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:37,720
Speaker 10: stop asking questions.

1581
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 1: Curtis Holf, we got to run. But before I let

1582
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 1: you go, are the American people well served by the

1583
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:45,439
Speaker 1: national media that we have right now?

1584
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 10: I mean, while as I say, there's still been improvements made,

1585
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:52,160
Speaker 10: it is still not the case. It is still not

1586
01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:54,599
Speaker 10: the case by any stretch of the imagination. And we

1587
01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:58,400
Speaker 10: should want a strong national media in this country. We

1588
01:31:58,439 --> 01:32:01,280
Speaker 10: should I want to see the nast met as a

1589
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:03,240
Speaker 10: concept go away, but there needs to be serious reforms.

1590
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's right there in the First Amendment, so

1591
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:08,759
Speaker 1: it should be taken advantage of, and it's something that

1592
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:10,479
Speaker 1: should not be Abuya.

1593
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:12,920
Speaker 10: Copple says, the First Amendment has a right to the

1594
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:16,400
Speaker 10: free press. It does not include a right or demand

1595
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:17,400
Speaker 10: that we trust them.

1596
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:24,320
Speaker 1: That's fact. That's that's pretty good. That's pretty good stuff

1597
01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:26,919
Speaker 1: right there. So there are some changes happening at CBS,

1598
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:30,360
Speaker 1: and the numbers for MS now continue to go down

1599
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:33,880
Speaker 1: the toilet. But that's a subject for another day. Curtis Houck,

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01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 1: as always MRC NewsBusters, you guys do great work over there.

1601
01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:40,280
Speaker 1: Tell everyone over there. I said, hey, and keep up

1602
01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:42,600
Speaker 1: the great work, and I will certainly look forward to

1603
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 1: the times that we get a chance to talk in

1604
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:46,639
Speaker 1: the year ahead. In twenty twenty six.

1605
01:32:47,720 --> 01:32:49,519
Speaker 9: Absolutely talk soon, my friend.

1606
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 1: Curtis Houk, you're the best, Keep up the great work,

1607
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 1: and we will talk to you again on seven hundred WLW.

1608
01:32:56,760 --> 01:32:59,360
Speaker 1: All right back on the big one, seven hundred w LW.

1609
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:01,880
Speaker 1: We can see you on this Friday with another great guest.

1610
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:05,599
Speaker 1: Always love catching up every so often with my friend

1611
01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:09,519
Speaker 1: Tina Diskovich, one of the founders of a group Tina

1612
01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:12,560
Speaker 1: Diskovich A Mom's for Liberty. Are you still declared a

1613
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:16,160
Speaker 1: hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. Do you

1614
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:17,559
Speaker 1: still have that title?

1615
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:18,640
Speaker 6: Oh?

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01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:19,040
Speaker 8: We do.

1617
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:20,920
Speaker 7: Oh boy, oh boy.

1618
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:24,559
Speaker 1: It is so much hate, so much, so much hate

1619
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:27,679
Speaker 1: out there the Moms for Liberty. I read recently where

1620
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:30,879
Speaker 1: one of the things you did the Moms for Liberty

1621
01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:37,439
Speaker 1: was put a million copies of the Constitution in middle

1622
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:40,599
Speaker 1: schools across the country. Tell me about that. That had

1623
01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:41,800
Speaker 1: to be a huge undertaking.

1624
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:43,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, it is.

1625
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:46,639
Speaker 12: We partner with nine to seventeen Society. They're a free

1626
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:51,440
Speaker 12: organization and the thing that they do is distribute constitute

1627
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:54,439
Speaker 12: pocket constitutions for free, and so we partnered with them

1628
01:33:54,640 --> 01:33:57,400
Speaker 12: so that our chapter leaders across the country could place

1629
01:33:57,439 --> 01:33:59,920
Speaker 12: an order for free with them to get as an

1630
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:03,920
Speaker 12: as many pocket constitutions as they needed.

1631
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:04,920
Speaker 6: For their county.

1632
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:07,920
Speaker 12: For middle school students, most across the country, either seventh

1633
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:09,800
Speaker 12: or eighth grade is a Civics class, and so the

1634
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:12,240
Speaker 12: goal is to get them placed in every hand of

1635
01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:17,479
Speaker 12: every kid for Civics, and states like Wyoming we placed

1636
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:20,519
Speaker 12: in every single seventh grader in the state of Wyoming

1637
01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:25,439
Speaker 12: in a public school got a pocket constitution this past year. So, yeah,

1638
01:34:25,479 --> 01:34:28,800
Speaker 12: we have a lot more students to reach, but we've

1639
01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 12: been doing it for three years now, and I will

1640
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:34,439
Speaker 12: say I give out pocket constitutions at Halloween every year.

1641
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:36,800
Speaker 12: I also give a full size candy bar to make

1642
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 12: up for the fact that I'm giving.

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01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:39,720
Speaker 4: Them a pocket constitution.

1644
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:44,920
Speaker 12: And this was the first year two kids said, oh,

1645
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:46,760
Speaker 12: I or we have one of these. I got it

1646
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:50,920
Speaker 12: at school this year. So happy to see that. So

1647
01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:52,559
Speaker 12: we're making we're making changes.

1648
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:54,240
Speaker 1: I think that is such a great idea. You know,

1649
01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:57,799
Speaker 1: it's one thing to put the constitutions in the schools

1650
01:34:58,200 --> 01:34:59,680
Speaker 1: and get them in the hands of the kids. It's

1651
01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:02,960
Speaker 1: another thing for them to have them look at it

1652
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:06,320
Speaker 1: and refer to it on a regular basis. So hopefully

1653
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:10,200
Speaker 1: that is happening. I would also imagine that the way

1654
01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 1: things are in this country right now, there are some

1655
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:16,479
Speaker 1: schools who would resist that idea of given as Sadly,

1656
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:20,920
Speaker 1: I think there are schools and teachers and probably different

1657
01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:25,760
Speaker 1: school administrations that would frown on the idea of your

1658
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:30,439
Speaker 1: group passing out constitutions copies of the constitutions to their sty.

1659
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 12: Yeah, one hundred percent. We've had We've had districts to cline.

1660
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:33,760
Speaker 11: We sure have.

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01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:37,040
Speaker 12: Montgomery County, Pennsylvania declined last year, I think, or the

1662
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:39,479
Speaker 12: year before they said they would, and then you know,

1663
01:35:39,560 --> 01:35:41,040
Speaker 12: we shut up with them. All we ordered them and

1664
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:42,760
Speaker 12: then they declined them, so they had to scramble and

1665
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:44,080
Speaker 12: find other places to place them.

1666
01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:46,720
Speaker 11: And you know, I could list other places across.

1667
01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:47,800
Speaker 12: The country to have done that. It's one of the

1668
01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:50,760
Speaker 12: reasons that we don't. We have pocket constitutions that are

1669
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:53,040
Speaker 12: branded with Moms for Liberty, and those aren't the ones

1670
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:55,559
Speaker 12: we don'tate because we want kids to.

1671
01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:56,519
Speaker 6: Actually have them.

1672
01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:59,240
Speaker 12: This isn't about Moms for Liberty getting some branding in

1673
01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:01,280
Speaker 12: front of kids. They're you know, in front of moms.

1674
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:04,519
Speaker 12: It's literally about getting pocket constitutions. In the ninth seventeen society,

1675
01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:08,240
Speaker 12: all they do is donate pocket constitutions. They don't really have,

1676
01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:10,639
Speaker 12: you know, any other agendas, and so it's one.

1677
01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:11,720
Speaker 6: Of the reasons we work through them.

1678
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:15,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, the last time we talked, you had just started

1679
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:19,559
Speaker 1: your podcast that you that you've been doing. How's everything

1680
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:20,840
Speaker 1: going with the podcast so far?

1681
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 6: It's going great.

1682
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:25,599
Speaker 12: I would you know, between you and I and whoever

1683
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:28,800
Speaker 12: might be listening, I don't have a massive reach. I

1684
01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:32,080
Speaker 12: haven't reached a million viewers in my audience or anything

1685
01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:36,559
Speaker 12: about any Yeah, it's it's a really important podcast because

1686
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:39,639
Speaker 12: it tells the story of each of our frontline warriors

1687
01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:42,799
Speaker 12: that are running chapters, and every single one is different

1688
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:46,400
Speaker 12: and unique and remarkable. This past week, this past Wednesday,

1689
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:49,760
Speaker 12: they run Wednesday morning at ten am live on All

1690
01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:51,920
Speaker 12: Moms for Liberty social media accounts.

1691
01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 6: And this one this week was really really good.

1692
01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:59,080
Speaker 12: It was about our identity crisis as Americans, and one

1693
01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:02,559
Speaker 12: of our chapter chairs is actually a licensed mental health counselor,

1694
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:05,320
Speaker 12: and we compared our whole identity crisis.

1695
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:07,879
Speaker 6: As Americans to what it's like for a child.

1696
01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:10,799
Speaker 12: That's going through an identity crisis, and it's the same steps.

1697
01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:14,559
Speaker 12: Like you know, negativity is poured into you students across America.

1698
01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:17,960
Speaker 12: We're pouring into the America, is that it was founded

1699
01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:21,000
Speaker 12: on slavery, all of these things, and then you expect

1700
01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:24,719
Speaker 12: them to have a healthy, patriotic outlook and it's typically

1701
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:27,320
Speaker 12: engaged as an adult, and it's not happening because of

1702
01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:29,439
Speaker 12: what we're doing to them. We're robbing them of their

1703
01:37:29,439 --> 01:37:30,320
Speaker 12: American identity.

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01:37:30,360 --> 01:37:31,679
Speaker 11: It was so good, It was really good.

1705
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:34,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, I think so much of that

1706
01:37:34,479 --> 01:37:37,160
Speaker 1: of what goes on in the education system is being

1707
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:40,360
Speaker 1: played out today by what some of the video and

1708
01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:42,720
Speaker 1: some of the things that i'm the current events that

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01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:45,760
Speaker 1: I'm looking at on TV right now. But before we

1710
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:48,040
Speaker 1: get to those current events, a couple other things I

1711
01:37:48,120 --> 01:37:50,400
Speaker 1: want to ask you about. Here in Ohio in the

1712
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:53,560
Speaker 1: year twenty twenty six, there is a new law that

1713
01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 1: is taking effect that is going to keep students in

1714
01:37:57,040 --> 01:38:00,400
Speaker 1: the classroom from having access to their cell phones. So

1715
01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:03,280
Speaker 1: there's already some school districts around here that have already

1716
01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:06,280
Speaker 1: started policies like that. I think it's a great idea

1717
01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:10,000
Speaker 1: take the cell phones and that distraction away from kids

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01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:14,640
Speaker 1: while they're in school and in the classroom. What does

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01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:17,160
Speaker 1: Moms for Liberty have to say about that idea of

1720
01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:19,720
Speaker 1: we know, the kids walk into school, they put their

1721
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:22,439
Speaker 1: cell phone away, or they keep it in a secure pouch,

1722
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:24,639
Speaker 1: or they can't be looking at it all day long.

1723
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:27,080
Speaker 1: What do you think about that notion of taking the

1724
01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:29,560
Speaker 1: cell phones out of the hands of kids during the

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01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:30,080
Speaker 1: school day.

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Speaker 12: Our membership is actually very divided on this, and some

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01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:36,360
Speaker 12: very strong opinions on both sides. I can tell you

1728
01:38:36,439 --> 01:38:39,519
Speaker 12: what I personally believe. I have children in school. You know,

1729
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:42,600
Speaker 12: I've been a school board number lots of experiences, you know,

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01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:46,680
Speaker 12: served as a sub and classrooms of all ages, so

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01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:50,120
Speaker 12: experience the phones in the classroom, and phones should not

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01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:52,240
Speaker 12: be out in classroom period, end of the story.

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01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 11: It's distracting.

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01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:56,160
Speaker 12: Obviously, they're getting tax and social media and all these

1735
01:38:56,200 --> 01:38:57,920
Speaker 12: other things are coming up on the screen even if

1736
01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:00,200
Speaker 12: they're trying to look something up for their lessons, So

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01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:03,840
Speaker 12: they should be put away. I do not want my

1738
01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:06,120
Speaker 12: children to be on campus without their phones. And there's

1739
01:39:06,160 --> 01:39:08,840
Speaker 12: some states and some school districts across the country that

1740
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:11,719
Speaker 12: are completely banning them from even bringing them on campus,

1741
01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:14,160
Speaker 12: and I don't like that one. But so I think

1742
01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:17,240
Speaker 12: there's probably a healthy hybrid where they can put them

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01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:19,840
Speaker 12: away as they entered the classroom door, leave some teachers

1744
01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:22,640
Speaker 12: put charging booths at the door, leave you all of

1745
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:24,120
Speaker 12: your phones right here by the door, so that they

1746
01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:26,200
Speaker 12: can focus during class, but have them in between.

1747
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:30,920
Speaker 1: So you think there's a I guess they taken away

1748
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:34,680
Speaker 1: from kids completely at school is maybe a little bit

1749
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:36,760
Speaker 1: too extreme, and so we need to find something that

1750
01:39:37,439 --> 01:39:39,559
Speaker 1: is someplace to meet and them find some common ground

1751
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:39,800
Speaker 1: on that.

1752
01:39:40,840 --> 01:39:41,400
Speaker 6: Absolutely.

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01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:44,400
Speaker 1: That's that's my thoughts, all right, all right, as you

1754
01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:48,360
Speaker 1: look at what's happening in the media right now, and again,

1755
01:39:48,439 --> 01:39:51,320
Speaker 1: I think so much of this relates back to our

1756
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:54,639
Speaker 1: education system, and I've talked to a number of different

1757
01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:58,679
Speaker 1: guests about its specifically as it relates to Zorhan Mondani

1758
01:39:58,720 --> 01:40:01,960
Speaker 1: in New York City and he's out there and he's

1759
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:06,360
Speaker 1: preaching socialism and communism, the warmth of the collective if

1760
01:40:06,439 --> 01:40:10,040
Speaker 1: you caught that during his inauguration speech, and again, going

1761
01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:15,120
Speaker 1: to get rid of the frigidity of capitalism and rugged

1762
01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:18,720
Speaker 1: individualism for the warmth of the collective. And I just

1763
01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:22,120
Speaker 1: think there's so many, especially young people who voted for

1764
01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:24,720
Speaker 1: this guy in New York City, and I see that

1765
01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:28,960
Speaker 1: as an indictment on our education system because these people,

1766
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:31,840
Speaker 1: so many that voted for him, just think it's going

1767
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:35,240
Speaker 1: to be all rainbows and unicorns and the rest of it.

1768
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:39,240
Speaker 1: And they have really no clue about the history of

1769
01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:44,040
Speaker 1: the failure of socialism and communism across the world and

1770
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:47,559
Speaker 1: it never works, it never has worked. But yet somehow

1771
01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:51,040
Speaker 1: they want to go out there and celebrate all these

1772
01:40:51,400 --> 01:40:54,639
Speaker 1: socialists and communist ideas that are coming to New York City.

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01:40:56,800 --> 01:40:58,840
Speaker 11: It goes back to what you know we just talked

1774
01:40:58,840 --> 01:40:59,639
Speaker 11: about a second ago.

1775
01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:02,280
Speaker 12: We have lost our American identity, and we have done

1776
01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:05,439
Speaker 12: that through the education system, hands down, one hundred percent.

1777
01:41:05,680 --> 01:41:06,840
Speaker 12: You know, we have moms liberty.

1778
01:41:06,880 --> 01:41:08,960
Speaker 11: We can point to a.

1779
01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:14,160
Speaker 12: Ton of issues in education, lessons that have been taught.

1780
01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 12: I can go back to my son who's twenty four now,

1781
01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:20,640
Speaker 12: in his high school American government class. He texted me

1782
01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:23,519
Speaker 12: a photo. I said, Mom, can you even believe this?

1783
01:41:24,120 --> 01:41:26,400
Speaker 12: The glossary in the back of the American Government book

1784
01:41:26,439 --> 01:41:30,920
Speaker 12: said Karl Marx, father of capitalism. And so they've been

1785
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:34,680
Speaker 12: sewing a confusion and yeah, yeah, yeah, promise you that's

1786
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:38,240
Speaker 12: what I said. They've been sowing chaos and confusion, and

1787
01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:40,600
Speaker 12: that's that's on that that's like the good end. Like

1788
01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:42,000
Speaker 12: if you were like on the scale of all the

1789
01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:44,280
Speaker 12: horrible things they've done, that's probably like, oh, that's really

1790
01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:46,559
Speaker 12: not that bad. That's just a little confusing and a little.

1791
01:41:46,360 --> 01:41:47,320
Speaker 6: Wrong and not true.

1792
01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:49,920
Speaker 12: But then you can look at them actually trying to

1793
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:54,200
Speaker 12: destroy American history, destroyer founding fathers, destroyer founding principles. And

1794
01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:56,839
Speaker 12: of course they're going to be looking for different solutions

1795
01:41:56,920 --> 01:42:00,400
Speaker 12: outside of capitalism and rugged individualism because been.

1796
01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:01,080
Speaker 6: Taught it's bad.

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01:42:02,680 --> 01:42:06,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so as that relates to the current situation.

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01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:09,519
Speaker 1: Say that, like we have it in Minnesota right now,

1799
01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:15,720
Speaker 1: and it's specifically in Minneapolis, and you talk about this

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01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:19,160
Speaker 1: large Somali population, is that is there. It seems like

1801
01:42:19,240 --> 01:42:22,680
Speaker 1: there's so much fraud associated with this community and the

1802
01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:26,720
Speaker 1: home health care services and the day care services and

1803
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:30,040
Speaker 1: the transportation companies and all this other stuff supposed to

1804
01:42:30,120 --> 01:42:32,880
Speaker 1: be feeding kids and all the rest of it. And

1805
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:38,040
Speaker 1: it seems like we get this message that is intentionally

1806
01:42:38,240 --> 01:42:41,400
Speaker 1: meant to confuse people. When you talk about immigrants that

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01:42:42,120 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 1: come into the country, and on one hand, you know

1808
01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:48,680
Speaker 1: there are many many of them may be refugees, they

1809
01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:52,840
Speaker 1: may be here illegally, some may be here legally for

1810
01:42:53,200 --> 01:42:57,000
Speaker 1: different things, But it doesn't seem that we really get

1811
01:42:57,080 --> 01:43:00,160
Speaker 1: a clear picture from the media. And I think think

1812
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:01,840
Speaker 1: a lot of people are confused about, you know what,

1813
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:05,560
Speaker 1: why are we cracking down on this particular community or

1814
01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:10,160
Speaker 1: these particular individuals when when when you know they're they're

1815
01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:13,400
Speaker 1: just here for the American experience, for the American way

1816
01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:16,040
Speaker 1: of life. But yeah, we get so much mixed messages there.

1817
01:43:16,439 --> 01:43:19,599
Speaker 1: I think people look at this and again that whole

1818
01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:22,320
Speaker 1: issue of confusion comes into play when you look at

1819
01:43:22,360 --> 01:43:24,200
Speaker 1: the way this is presented to the people.

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01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:26,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's deliberate.

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01:43:26,479 --> 01:43:30,040
Speaker 12: The confusion is deliberately done, not just to our children,

1822
01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:33,120
Speaker 12: but as you're saying and throughout the media. So it

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01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:35,920
Speaker 12: just carries on into your adulthood everything.

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01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:36,439
Speaker 11: You're exposed to.

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01:43:36,640 --> 01:43:39,800
Speaker 12: And I mean, if you're a god fearing person who

1826
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:44,040
Speaker 12: is the father of confusion and lies, that's where this

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01:43:44,240 --> 01:43:47,720
Speaker 12: stems from and comes from. And the fruit of confusion

1828
01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:51,559
Speaker 12: and lies are things like we're seeing unfold in Minneapolis now,

1829
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:56,599
Speaker 12: which is it's hard for us to handle and work through.

1830
01:43:56,680 --> 01:44:00,680
Speaker 12: It's very it's hard for our country to face. But

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01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:04,200
Speaker 12: to just go full circle in the conversation, it's starting

1832
01:44:04,240 --> 01:44:07,880
Speaker 12: in America's classrooms, and that's what Mom's Liberty was created for,

1833
01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:09,120
Speaker 12: to start fighting back.

1834
01:44:09,320 --> 01:44:11,320
Speaker 11: But my goodness, we still that long way to go.

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01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:14,680
Speaker 1: You see. Well, but I look at the map that's

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01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:17,240
Speaker 1: on your website and I see all the chapters that

1837
01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:19,240
Speaker 1: are popping up. You've still got some areas out there

1838
01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:21,200
Speaker 1: that are a little bit thin, But it seems like

1839
01:44:21,560 --> 01:44:24,519
Speaker 1: more and more people are catching on to the movement

1840
01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:25,719
Speaker 1: that is Mom's for Liberty.

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01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:27,879
Speaker 11: Let's go Ohio.

1842
01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:32,200
Speaker 12: We have lots of blue left still in Ohio, and

1843
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:34,080
Speaker 12: that's you're blue on there. If you don't have a

1844
01:44:34,120 --> 01:44:36,280
Speaker 12: Mom's Liberty chapter, you need to be gold. You need

1845
01:44:36,320 --> 01:44:38,280
Speaker 12: to be shining and have a light in your county

1846
01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:41,800
Speaker 12: so that you have moms and dads that are watchdogs

1847
01:44:41,840 --> 01:44:44,840
Speaker 12: watching the school districts making sure this nonsense isn't in

1848
01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:45,599
Speaker 12: your community.

1849
01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:46,280
Speaker 3: OK.

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01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:50,800
Speaker 1: Tell me about On January thirteenth, Moms for Liberty has

1851
01:44:50,840 --> 01:44:53,080
Speaker 1: an event that's coming up on the steps of the

1852
01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:56,800
Speaker 1: United States Supreme Court and this is the rally for

1853
01:44:56,960 --> 01:45:00,040
Speaker 1: Women's Sports. Talk about this event a little bit and

1854
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:03,920
Speaker 1: what is going on with the Supreme Court that day

1855
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:06,360
Speaker 1: and where Moms for Liberty is on this and what

1856
01:45:06,479 --> 01:45:07,400
Speaker 1: you hope to accomplish.

1857
01:45:08,560 --> 01:45:08,720
Speaker 9: Ah.

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01:45:08,880 --> 01:45:10,640
Speaker 12: Yeah, well I wish we could take full credit. I

1859
01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:12,960
Speaker 12: know we put out graphics and information for other people

1860
01:45:13,080 --> 01:45:15,719
Speaker 12: to gather there too, But it's really Alliance Defending Freedom.

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01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:16,519
Speaker 6: It's their case.

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01:45:17,360 --> 01:45:20,439
Speaker 12: It's a keep Boys out, a women's sports case, keeping

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01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:22,320
Speaker 12: protect girl spaces case.

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01:45:22,360 --> 01:45:25,120
Speaker 11: It's a landmark obviously Supreme Court case.

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01:45:24,920 --> 01:45:25,760
Speaker 9: That will be heard.

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01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:29,120
Speaker 12: And so they put together a rally outside that just

1867
01:45:29,320 --> 01:45:30,840
Speaker 12: seems to be growing and growing.

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01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:33,560
Speaker 11: There's a lot of organizations that are going to be present.

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01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:35,400
Speaker 12: And a lot of our moms were saying, we want

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01:45:35,439 --> 01:45:37,639
Speaker 12: to go, we want to be there, and so we're

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01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:40,320
Speaker 12: just organizing them together and doing a reception after we

1872
01:45:40,479 --> 01:45:43,519
Speaker 12: invite anyone to join us. It starts at ten am

1873
01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:45,760
Speaker 12: and we'll be doing a private reception after. But if

1874
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:47,960
Speaker 12: you go to mom's leb we got a organ sign up,

1875
01:45:48,280 --> 01:45:49,920
Speaker 12: we can invite you to our private reception.

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01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:53,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, how did we get to the point to where Look,

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01:45:54,200 --> 01:45:57,280
Speaker 1: I'm guessing that year old enough that when you went

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01:45:57,320 --> 01:46:01,080
Speaker 1: to school, there was boys, sports, there was sports, there

1879
01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:03,880
Speaker 1: was a boy's restroom and a girl's restroom, and there

1880
01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:09,160
Speaker 1: really wasn't any confusion about that. But now, and thankfully,

1881
01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:12,280
Speaker 1: I think because of the policies of this administration, we're

1882
01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:15,960
Speaker 1: getting away from that. But the whole idea, there's still

1883
01:46:15,960 --> 01:46:19,160
Speaker 1: a lot of places around this country where they are

1884
01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:22,720
Speaker 1: fighting this tooth and nail, and people look at this

1885
01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:28,280
Speaker 1: notion of having teenage boys compete against girls in sports.

1886
01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:30,880
Speaker 1: They want to act as if there's nothing wrong with

1887
01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:34,240
Speaker 1: that and it's no big deal. But in so many

1888
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:36,880
Speaker 1: of these people have spent time with Title nine and

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01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:40,800
Speaker 1: trying to get better situations for women in sports and

1890
01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:43,040
Speaker 1: all the rest of it. But yet in so many

1891
01:46:43,120 --> 01:46:45,800
Speaker 1: cases they're willing to throw all that away just to

1892
01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:47,200
Speaker 1: pursue this agenda item.

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01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:51,679
Speaker 12: My goodness, this topic, we could do a whole day radio.

1894
01:46:52,479 --> 01:46:55,280
Speaker 12: So I'm not even sure where to start. But it's been,

1895
01:46:55,920 --> 01:46:58,519
Speaker 12: it's been in the works for generations. You can tie

1896
01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:02,600
Speaker 12: it into the conversation of causing confusion and chaos. And

1897
01:47:02,840 --> 01:47:05,920
Speaker 12: what more confusion can you cause if you can't even

1898
01:47:05,960 --> 01:47:08,760
Speaker 12: identify the difference between a boy and a girl the

1899
01:47:08,840 --> 01:47:13,840
Speaker 12: basic Biblical Genesis one, you know, man and woman, and

1900
01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:18,680
Speaker 12: so it strikes to the core of evil. You can

1901
01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:22,440
Speaker 12: trace it starting in America really in the forties and fifties.

1902
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:25,360
Speaker 12: You can move all the way up to the early

1903
01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:28,880
Speaker 12: two thousands and the twenty tens, when we started seeing

1904
01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:33,679
Speaker 12: here in Florida policies, especially in Obama under President Obama,

1905
01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:37,799
Speaker 12: they started, you know, the dear colleagues, let dear colleague

1906
01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:41,000
Speaker 12: letters to school districts where they started pulling the putting

1907
01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:44,799
Speaker 12: in the word gender identity into all these discrimination policies

1908
01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:47,519
Speaker 12: across the country. They were laying the groundwork. And you know,

1909
01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:50,360
Speaker 12: now in hindsight, we can look back and see steps

1910
01:47:50,360 --> 01:47:54,439
Speaker 12: that were taken systematically, well planned out to bring us

1911
01:47:54,479 --> 01:47:56,160
Speaker 12: to where we are today, and so we have to

1912
01:47:56,240 --> 01:47:59,200
Speaker 12: be smarter. We have to see these things coming. But

1913
01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:02,479
Speaker 12: like you said, the administration first executive order at the gate,

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01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:04,880
Speaker 12: I believe was get boys out of girls sports. And

1915
01:48:05,080 --> 01:48:07,559
Speaker 12: we at Monster Liberty have been fighting it, and we've

1916
01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:10,840
Speaker 12: sued the bid administration. We've got a federal injunction. There's

1917
01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:13,320
Speaker 12: so many good people really fighting this. But it is

1918
01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:14,840
Speaker 12: remarkable that that's where we are.

1919
01:48:15,080 --> 01:48:17,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, those on the other side of this issue,

1920
01:48:17,439 --> 01:48:20,680
Speaker 1: they never give up. And I can sit here and

1921
01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:23,360
Speaker 1: look at it, and I can look at the policies

1922
01:48:23,400 --> 01:48:26,439
Speaker 1: of the Trump administration and get a sense or have

1923
01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:29,040
Speaker 1: a feeling that the tide is turning away from this.

1924
01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:32,800
Speaker 1: But then I also get the feeling that there are

1925
01:48:33,080 --> 01:48:35,800
Speaker 1: just a lot of areas around the country where you

1926
01:48:35,960 --> 01:48:39,280
Speaker 1: have school boards or administrators or people who have a

1927
01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:43,000
Speaker 1: certain agenda are simply lying in wait for their time

1928
01:48:43,120 --> 01:48:46,439
Speaker 1: too to come up and push this agenda once again.

1929
01:48:47,439 --> 01:48:50,040
Speaker 12: Right now, it's just an executive order, like President Trump,

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01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:52,040
Speaker 12: what does you have? Three more years goes away? In

1931
01:48:52,160 --> 01:48:55,080
Speaker 12: three years, it's gone. So we've got whole states Colorado

1932
01:48:55,240 --> 01:48:58,120
Speaker 12: right now, for example, the state of Washington doing bowel initiatives,

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Speaker 12: because this pulls eighty five five percent of parents, whether

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Speaker 12: you're a Republican a Democrat, whether you are pro choice

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Speaker 12: or pro life, eighty five percent of parents in general

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Speaker 12: do not want boys in their daughter's bathrooms, locker rooms,

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Speaker 12: or on their sports teams. And so we have to

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Speaker 12: take it directly to bad initiatives and state laws and

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Speaker 12: handle this in other ways because President Trump cannot save

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Speaker 12: us forever.

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Speaker 1: All right, So Moms for Liberty the big rally at

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court January thirteenth at ten am. You'll be

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Speaker 1: out there, hopefully you'll have decent weather for that. But

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Speaker 1: you don't have to be a mom to join Mom's

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Speaker 1: for Liberty, do you You don't.

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Speaker 6: We have dads and.

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Speaker 12: Uncles just concerned set of sins that are all part

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Speaker 12: of our organization. We have seven chapters that are led

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Speaker 12: by dads right now, so you could even you could

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Speaker 12: even be in leadership if you would like to volunteer

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Speaker 12: your time to saving America, saving our education system and

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Speaker 12: preserving it for future generations. We have so many things

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Speaker 12: coming up in twenty twenty six for America two fifty

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Speaker 12: and maybe you can have me back on soon to

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Speaker 12: talk about some of these big events for partnering with

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Speaker 12: Glenn Back and Mercury one and some others.

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Speaker 11: It's going to be fabulous.

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Speaker 1: That is fantastic, well, Tina Diskovich. I always look forward

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Speaker 1: to having a chance to talk to you and catch

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Speaker 1: up and find out what's been going on with Moms

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Speaker 1: for Liberty. Thank you so much for the time you

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Speaker 1: do great work. I encourage you to keep up the

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Speaker 1: great work in twenty twenty six and we will definitely

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Speaker 1: have some conversations in the year ahead, so I'm looking

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Speaker 1: forward to that.

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Speaker 6: Okay, talk soon. Have a great weekend.

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Speaker 1: All right, there you go, Tina diskoviach Moms for Liberty,

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Speaker 1: and all you got to do is google it if

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Speaker 1: you want to find out more for Moms for Liberty,

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Speaker 1: and it'll take you right to the website Moms for

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Speaker 1: Liberty and you can find out about all the good

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Speaker 1: stuff they're doing. Still a hate group though, according to

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Speaker 1: the Southern Poverty Law Center, and I think that tells

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Speaker 1: you only need to know about that organization. I'm Dan

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Speaker 1: Carroll seven hundred w wel do