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Speaker 1: after the top of the air and you're at home

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Speaker 1: with Gary Sullivan. Joining me now is Adam Smith. He's

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Speaker 1: the vice president of North American retail sales for Dumont Global.

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Speaker 1: You've heard me talk about Dumont Global and the smart

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Speaker 1: strip and Adam, welcome again at home with Gary Sullivan.

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Speaker 1: How in the world are you doing.

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Speaker 2: That's fantastic, Gary, thanks for having me again. I really

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Speaker 1: You're quite welcome. Well, I'll tell you what we're at

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Speaker 1: that time of year, we're spending going to be spending

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Speaker 1: of course I always turned to Dumont Global. Tell us

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Speaker 1: got forty years of experience manufacturing water based user friendly products.

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Speaker 1: You were a kind of head of the curve.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we kind of work. Forty years ago, we made

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Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy eight they outlawed lead based paints. So

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Speaker 2: about forty years ago, we decided to come out of

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Speaker 2: the product that would work to remove lead based paints safely,

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Speaker 2: to thirty coatings of organic lead based oil alka based paints. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we've talked about this in the past with our test kits.

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Speaker 2: So once you test, you find the right product, and

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Speaker 2: Coatings and the more complex codings that are coming out.

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Speaker 1: Well. This is a fascinating and not to confuse people,

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