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Speaker 2: thoughts on the Bengals, the Bearcats, the Muskies, or whatever

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Speaker 2: else you want to talk about today. We'll get the

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Speaker 2: talkbacks in our number two. It is a Monday that

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Speaker 2: we have had a similar feeling far too many times

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Speaker 2: already this season. Another in a long line of disappointing

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengal losses accompanied with a Cincinnati Bearcat loss. The

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Speaker 2: Xavier Musketeers lost on Friday night. Not the best sports

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Speaker 2: weekend in the Cincinnati area. We will spend time today

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Speaker 2: breaking down all of it. We'll talk about the Bearcats

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Speaker 2: and their home loss to Arizona seemingly ending their chances

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Speaker 2: of playing for a Big twelve championship, albeit big noon

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Speaker 2: kickoff coming into town on Saturday, and then an eight

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Speaker 2: pm start nip at Night against BYU on Saturday night.

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Speaker 2: We'll look across the rest of the college football world,

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Speaker 2: scores and storylines to accompany that. Of course, the Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: Bengals and their loss in Pittsburgh, where it seems like

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Speaker 2: things have unraveled for the Cincinnati Bengals. Jamar Chase and

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Speaker 2: Jalen Ramsey. After Jalen Ramsey was ejected from the game yesterday,

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Speaker 2: goes on to speak after the game, and we have

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Speaker 2: that audio that will get to you. Jalen Ramsey says

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Speaker 2: that Jamar Chase spit on him. Jamar Chase then adamantly

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Speaker 2: denied spitting and then a video surface, as do they

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Speaker 2: always do, because this is twenty twenty five, and there

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Speaker 2: are videos of everything of Jamar Chase very clearly spitting

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Speaker 2: on Jalen Ramsey. That will I think many have presumed

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Speaker 2: a company of suspension because we've already seen that in

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Speaker 2: the NFL this year. Also, Pittsburgh did a good job

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Speaker 2: of taking Jamar Chase out of the game, a phrase

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Speaker 2: that we've heard far too many times in the Zach

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Speaker 2: Taylor era. We'll talk about Joe Flacco, We'll talk about

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Speaker 2: the offense, We'll talk about the defense and the inability

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Speaker 2: to stop Mason Rudolph in the second half, a poor

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Speaker 2: usage of timeouts by Zach Taylor, and just how dangerously

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Speaker 2: close this team is to oh and ten seventeen sixteen,

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Speaker 2: winning Week one over Cleveland where Cleveland missed multiple field goals,

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Speaker 2: thirty one, twenty seven over Jacksonville if you remember, Travis

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Speaker 2: Hunter was flagged for a pass interference that was questionable

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Speaker 2: late in that game, and a thirty three to thirty

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Speaker 2: one win a couple weeks ago on Thursday Night over

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Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers. That's seven points that separates this Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: Bengals team from currently being oh and ten and on

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Speaker 2: top of all of that, from my guy Austin. The

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Speaker 2: Bulls lost their fifth straight game last night. Austin, did

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Speaker 2: anything good over that over the weekend happen anything positive?

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't think so if you are trying to think

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Speaker 4: of anything in my life that was overwhelmingly positive. I

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Speaker 4: did go to the UC game Saturday, and despite the outcome,

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Speaker 4: I had a good time. Yeah. I enjoyed the the atmosphere,

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Speaker 4: but at what cost? Some guys are a little bit

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Speaker 4: banged up. One could say, Norse up, Norse beat Cumberland.

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Speaker 4: Nku took care of business night. I woke up Saturday morning.

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Speaker 4: I woke up Sunday morning. Darn right. I woke up today.

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Speaker 4: Sun was out so far as of now still breathing.

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Speaker 4: Sun is up. Grass, green sky is blue, grasses green

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Speaker 4: we go. We got a lot of work to do.

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Speaker 4: Grasses green sky. There you go. Yeah whatever.

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Speaker 2: The Bearcats came back and beat Mount Saint Mary after

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Speaker 2: These Xavier Musketeers, they did fall at Iowa on on

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Speaker 2: it brings into light Austin a very interesting weekend coming

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Speaker 2: up in Cincinnati sports. Now, Xavier will take on Old

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Speaker 2: Dominion tomorrow. After that, upcoming weekend, Xavier is at Georgia.

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Speaker 2: You see host Louisville on Friday night. You see football

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Speaker 2: as a home dog already against BYU on Saturday. On Sunday,

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Speaker 2: the Bengals are already a touchdown underdog, a seven point

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Speaker 2: I put it on social media yesterday, how many wins

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Speaker 4: I voted one? Okay, who's your one? FC Cincinnati? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think that's where a lot of people lie. As

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Speaker 4: come all the way back and beat Princeton, a tough,

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Speaker 4: tough loss for the Princeton Vikings. Elder was lining up

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Speaker 4: Saint Xavier upsets the Moler Crusaders, on Friday night as well.

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Speaker 4: So it wasn't all bad now if you're a Moler

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Speaker 4: But there were some wins that happened locally over the weekend.

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Speaker 4: When's the last time you played beer pong, Austin?

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Speaker 4: What last game of beer pong you had? I played

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Speaker 4: that beer pong tournament. What Ohio State is going to

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Speaker 2: We're probably not going to be invited back anytime soon

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Speaker 2: happy for you, But this weekend to me is more

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Speaker 2: about I think this feeling now deep down inside of

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Speaker 2: it feels like it's over now, what you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean? Like so many people cling for hope in

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Speaker 2: the taking, Mason Rudolph. All you got to do is

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Speaker 4: I felt the exact opposite.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's well, you know, and you pointed out what

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Speaker 4: Vegas And I also thought of twenty twenty three when

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Speaker 4: always somebody. Yeah, I mean, even Andy Dalton in that game,

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, it's the unfortunate. Really, I'd even

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Speaker 4: still feel okay. Ensuing possession was a pick six, which

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Speaker 4: we'll get to as we go, and then from there

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Speaker 4: it was another uphill battle. It was a very questionable

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Speaker 4: an easy way to put it Austin, where the Bengals

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Speaker 4: because of the Jaalen Ramsey ejection on what would have

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Speaker 4: been I think one of the most baffling Zach Taylor

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Speaker 4: the kneel down to end the game. The Pittsburgh Steelers

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Speaker 4: in twelve plays. That's it.

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Speaker 2: The pick six was in there, The fumble of Noah

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Speaker 2: comedy comedy of airs. But Mason Rudolph in the second

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Speaker 2: half completed third downs of third and two, third and eleven,

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Speaker 2: Welcome back Monday Midday Quarterback. Thanks to many, including our

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Speaker 2: everything that went wrong Austin, there were I thought a

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Speaker 2: couple positives that did stand out. Yesterday you and I

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Speaker 4: But didn't run it for about five yards of carry.

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Speaker 4: And we were talking to our guy Joe Walter before

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Speaker 4: mind of a Trey Hendrickson. First of all, didn't see

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Speaker 4: any of Trey Hendrickson?

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Speaker 7: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Was he there?

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Speaker 8: Was he?

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Speaker 9: Even?

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Speaker 4: Did he even make the trip? Team Captain Trey Hendrickson.

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Speaker 4: Now I understand Burrow didn't still rehabbing, Yeah, obviously, you know,

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Speaker 4: I get that. But you know, and I understand Treys

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Speaker 4: not one hundred percent either, But still is he healthy

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Speaker 4: enough to travel? And in film room is Trey Hendrickson saying, hey, dude,

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Speaker 4: this is unacceptable from you? What is this? Who's the

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Speaker 4: person in the room to say that Logan Wilson's gone

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Speaker 4: Orren Burke's just got here? Linebackers are rookies, bj Hill,

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Speaker 4: you gonna say something right like, I don't think they

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Speaker 4: have anyone that can I don't know that there's anybody

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Speaker 4: on the defensive side of the ball that commands the

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Speaker 4: respect of the room, including Al Golden. Yep, I don't

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Speaker 4: know that, and that that just is maybe indicative of

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Speaker 4: just how far they've they've gone astray. But like the

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Speaker 4: defensive captains bj Hill Trey Henderson, are you not supposed

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Speaker 4: to be taking control in a situation like this and

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Speaker 4: saying this type of effort is unacceptable? And even more

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Speaker 4: so if you are the coaches, how do you allow

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Speaker 4: this to be a reflection of you? Because that's what

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Speaker 4: it is, right, Geno Stone is a reflection of Al Golden.

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Speaker 4: He's a reflection of the secondary's coach. He's a reflection

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Speaker 4: of Zach Taylor. How do you allow that to happen

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Speaker 4: and then say, oh no, we're not considering personnel changes.

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Speaker 4: You asked dude to take a pay cut. He is

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Speaker 4: very clearly not putting forth the effort to actually do

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Speaker 4: his job.

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Speaker 2: Remarkable that that continues to be allowed on a football field.

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Speaker 2: Let's take one more, let's take a break, let's come back.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk but Zach Taylor's decision with timeouts

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Speaker 2: and I want to play the Zach Taylor and we'll

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Speaker 2: get a little Jamar Jason and Jalen Ramsey audio as well.

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Speaker 2: That'll lead up to your phone, calls in our number

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Speaker 11: Second and ten low snap handled by Rogers. Now he's pressured,

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Speaker 11: goes backward, pump fakes.

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Speaker 3: And gets sacked.

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Speaker 11: Oh Miles Murphy and bj Hipoll combining for the sack

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Speaker 11: at the thirty on eleven yard loss Boy.

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Speaker 12: It was doomed from the start because he bobbled a snap.

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Speaker 12: He has to pick it up and instead of just

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Speaker 12: throwing the football away and lived for another down. He

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Speaker 12: tries to make something out of nothing. I mean, there's

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Speaker 12: no worry when he pumped faked the football. Should have

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Speaker 12: just thrown it and thrown it in complete. Now his

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Speaker 12: football team is way off scheduled third and twenty.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with Dave laughing.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why Aaron Rodgers didn't throw that ball

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Speaker 2: away when he was out of the pocket.

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Speaker 4: He didn't play good yet.

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Speaker 2: Nope, nope, that game was there for the taking in

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Speaker 2: Right here on ESPN fifteen thirty, let's talk about Zach

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Speaker 2: Taylor for a moment before we hear from Zach Taylor.

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Speaker 2: In a moment austin the drive that everyone is seemingly

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Speaker 2: discussing that took place in the game, where the Jalen

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Speaker 2: Ramsey and Jamar Chase incident kind of overshadowed what actually happened.

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Speaker 2: It was fourth and inches and the Cincinnati Bengals Austin

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Speaker 2: lined up in Pittsburgh territory to presumably go for it,

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Speaker 2: and proceeded for about twenty five seconds to just try

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Speaker 2: to get Pittsburgh to jump off sides. When Pittsburgh didn't

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Speaker 2: jump off sides, the Bengals burned a timeout, which becomes

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Speaker 2: valuable in a game where you're trailing in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 2: But they burn a timeout, and in my opinion, they

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Speaker 2: were going to punt the ball away. Now the Jalen

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Speaker 2: Ramsey and Jamar Chase scuffle happens and they end up

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Speaker 2: picking up a first down.

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Speaker 4: But on that drive.

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Speaker 2: They ran sixth place, They used two timeouts, ran a

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Speaker 2: bunch of time off the clock, and then end up

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Speaker 2: losing a yard before kicking a field goal. Not only

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Speaker 2: burning one timeout, they burned two timeouts on one drive

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Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter. I know you mentioned it on

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Speaker 2: social media. I mentioned it. I don't know what the

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Speaker 2: plan was from Zach Taylor. I don't know why the

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Speaker 2: use of timeouts. I don't know what they're trying to get,

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Speaker 2: especially when you come out of a timeout and you're

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Speaker 2: just running essentially a dive play up the middle that

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Speaker 2: made no sense. And the clock management many times this

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Speaker 2: year has made zero sense.

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Speaker 4: From Zach Taylor, Well, if you think of the situation

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Speaker 4: that they were in here, this drive had started at

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Speaker 4: the end of the third quarter. Basically they're down by

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Speaker 4: eleven points, their defense had started to give way a

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Speaker 4: little bit. Yeah, they needed to score, and they are

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Speaker 4: going to need if they want to win the football game,

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Speaker 4: two touchdowns to score. It's one thing to get a touchdown,

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Speaker 4: a two point conversion and a field goal eleven points.

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Speaker 4: What happens then you're still tied. If you want to

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Speaker 4: win the football game, you need to score two touchdowns.

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Speaker 4: And by all accounts, the people who were there suggested

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Speaker 4: that after the Bengals had burned their time out and

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Speaker 4: prior to the Jalen Ramsey penalty, the Bengals were going

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Speaker 4: to punt the football away at the Pittsburgh forty four. Again,

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Speaker 4: whether not great, a field goal would have been tricky there.

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Speaker 4: The right decision is to go for it, correct. The

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Speaker 4: right decision is to not get up there and pitdle

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Speaker 4: fart around for an entire play clock and then burn

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Speaker 4: a timeout and then go for it. The right decision

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Speaker 4: is to get up there and say, hey, we're gonna

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Speaker 4: hard count this, but if they don't jump at eight

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Speaker 4: seconds on the play clock, we're running this play. Check

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Speaker 4: to it. Do whatever you gotta do. This is the plan.

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Speaker 4: Burning a timeout in your down two possessions in the

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Speaker 4: fourth quarter is mesmerizingly stupid when you choose to do

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Speaker 4: that instead of having to by necessity, because later on

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Speaker 4: they had to by necessity, and then you have one

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Speaker 4: time out left in the two possession game, and multiple

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Speaker 4: times that drive itself, Tony took six minutes, twelve plays

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Speaker 4: to go forty seven yards, and six minutes and fifteen

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Speaker 4: of those yards were bailed out by Jalen Rams down eleven,

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Speaker 4: down eleven points in the fourth quarter. Multiple times this

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Speaker 4: year when the Bengals have been trailing by two scores

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Speaker 4: or more they have in that ten to twelve minute

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Speaker 4: range left in the game have been slow as molasses.

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Speaker 4: Just huddle up, pedal fart around. Check the call at

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Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage, move this guy here, bu drain

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Speaker 4: the play clock all the way down. That is losing football.

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Speaker 2: Listen to this, real quick third and one, they get

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Speaker 2: the they have to call the timeout. They use a

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Speaker 2: second timeout on the drive. What two plays later? Was

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Speaker 2: it two plays and two timeouts? They called their first

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Speaker 2: time out with twelve fifty four in the quarter, they

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Speaker 2: called their second time out with twelve ten in the quarter,

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Speaker 2: and then Austin Madly you mentioned rough field conditions, bad

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Speaker 2: weather right second and ten Flacco gets sacked.

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Speaker 4: After that, the.

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Speaker 2: Bengals have a delay of game, so you can't burn

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Speaker 2: a time out then, because you're not you have a

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Speaker 2: delay a game and you've already burned two timeouts, so

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Speaker 2: then you push yourself back even further. It's just the

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Speaker 2: the end game. Play calling at crucial moments the play clock,

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Speaker 2: the timeouts is absolutely maddening. Get from Zach Taylor the

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Speaker 2: play in yes, and this has been a common theme

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Speaker 2: with him, Get the damn play calling, burn two timeouts

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Speaker 2: in that span.

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Speaker 4: And if this is a collaborative effort, like Zach is

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Speaker 4: always bloviating that it is about play calling, well then

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Speaker 4: maybe change it. And from my understanding is it's collaborative

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Speaker 4: during the week, but on game day it's all Zach yeah.

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Speaker 4: And so great play callers know what play they're gonna

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Speaker 4: call prior to the play. So if you're running on

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Speaker 4: fourth and one or if you're running on third and one.

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Speaker 4: You know, if we don't get this, here's what I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna do. If it's a loss, here's what I'm gonna do.

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Speaker 4: If we gain ten yards, here's what I'm gonna do.

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Speaker 4: That's what great play callers do, and Zach instead seems

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Speaker 4: to be overwhelmed by the moment and can't get the

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Speaker 4: play call in timely. It happens with Joe Burrow, it

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Speaker 4: happens with Jake Browning, it happens with Joe Flacco, it

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Speaker 4: happened with Ryan Finley, it happened with Andy Dalton, it

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Speaker 4: happened with Brandon Allen. So who's the common denominator there?

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Speaker 2: Not only that, like there are times you should have

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Speaker 2: two plays called in the huddle anyway, because you know,

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Speaker 2: times a factor. Hey, it's second and two. If we

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Speaker 2: don't pick up the first down, let's go quick and

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Speaker 2: let's get the first down. Little things like that are

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Speaker 2: just excluded by this team, and it's maddening. It's it

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Speaker 2: would be maddening into one off. It's insane that this

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Speaker 2: isn't the first time we're talking about timeouts or clock usage.

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Speaker 2: There were times yesterday I'm pinching myself wondering if I'm

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Speaker 2: awake thinking that are the Bengals down eleven.

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Speaker 4: Or up eleven?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: That's how they operated. It's incredible. It's like, if Andy

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Speaker 4: Reid does that, you think, wow, that's that's rare Andy Reid.

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Speaker 4: He didn't seem to be prepared for that moment. You know,

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Speaker 4: if Sean Payton does that. Now, Sean Payton made some

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Speaker 4: questionable decisions, but it's like, dang, that's kind of weird

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Speaker 4: Zach Taylor does It's like, why is this still happening? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: we're seven seasons into this dude's career as a head

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Speaker 4: coach and as a play caller. Yeah, why is that

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Speaker 4: still happening? It's just the rules haven't changed. The headset's

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Speaker 4: still cut off in fifteen seconds. Maddening.

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Speaker 2: It was a abnormally short Zach Taylor in the postgame press

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Speaker 2: conference after a loss yesterday, Austin, do we have a

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Speaker 2: was it two or so minutes of it?

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Speaker 4: This is two minutes and thirty eight seconds? Enjoy? Zach Taylor?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, again, I don't think we were ever in a

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Speaker 13: tremendous rhythm in any facet. And you have to credit them,

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Speaker 13: you know, they had a great plan. They played well

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Speaker 13: at times, we found some momentum and just it wasn't

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Speaker 13: enough of that to go out and score enough points

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Speaker 13: to WoT in the game.

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Speaker 3: Right credit Chase were keeping school, they're.

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Speaker 13: Playing Yeah, yeah, I mean these guys are in emotional matchups.

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Speaker 13: We all know that there's a lot at stake for teams.

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Speaker 13: There's a lot at stake for these individuals. It's competitive

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Speaker 13: when you got great players going against great players, it's

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Speaker 13: going to be emotional at times. And Jamar has always

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Speaker 13: done an excellent job of controlling what you can control,

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Speaker 13: and so I respect.

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Speaker 14: That about him.

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Speaker 4: It's Dart tackles better.

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Speaker 15: It's been best big reason why they where it looks

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Speaker 15: to win because like every week he asked you about tackling,

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Speaker 15: is it to a point where you guys can run

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Speaker 15: it up and practice so much and talked about as

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Speaker 15: much hundred means that you might needs to just make

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Speaker 15: some personnel changes to see if that can help tackling exactly.

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Speaker 2: I think, Mike, what you were talking about with Charlie here,

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Speaker 2: but on the Jalen Ramsey checks like he was obviously

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Speaker 2: the only one of jecon.

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Speaker 5: Were you comfortable with how you guys can important yourselves.

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Speaker 13: I have no idea. I didn't see any of it.

659
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Speaker 13: I got the worst view in the house. So I again,

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Speaker 13: they didn't call us from anything. So I'm proud of

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Speaker 13: our guys I have. I have the worst eating house,

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Speaker 13: no idea.

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Speaker 8: So frustrating as a three seventh reten games last year.

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Speaker 16: Have someone right an just woting to you, you know,

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Speaker 16: can't do them a hot store whatever.

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Speaker 13: Frustating that you feel them, You feel all the losses,

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Speaker 13: you feel them all they eat at you all. You know,

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Speaker 13: we're working, We're working like crazy to make sure that

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Speaker 13: this doesn't happen.

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Speaker 4: It happened.

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Speaker 13: Today's disappointing. Our option is to come back tomorrow and

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Speaker 13: keep fighting and find a way to get a win.

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Speaker 13: And we got a red hot team coming in here,

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Speaker 13: and so what that's what we're gonna do. We're gonna

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Speaker 13: do everything we can to clean this up, correct the mistakes,

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Speaker 13: get back to work and fight another week and find

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Speaker 13: a way to get a win. Same just what I

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Speaker 13: just said, the same thing.

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Speaker 2: You feel like it was maybe a missed opportunity, especially

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Speaker 2: with Joe windows open and just to kind of tighten

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Speaker 2: things in.

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Speaker 13: The lafty north of course, you know, it's we were

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Speaker 13: Our goals is to be three and zero in the division,

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Speaker 13: you know coming out of this game, and that's not

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Speaker 13: how qu out what's.

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Speaker 17: Kind of a head of all here now?

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Speaker 2: On Goo she said that this is a big win,

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Speaker 2: which backed or we don't want to go?

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Speaker 18: Where do you want to go from here?

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Speaker 13: I mean, it's simple, find a way to scratch and

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Speaker 13: call and get a win and get the feeling we

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Speaker 13: had back three weeks ago and we beat Pittsburgh, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, and.

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Speaker 13: Gave us a good opportunity. And so that's where we're

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Speaker 13: back to. We're back to just find a way to

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Speaker 13: get a win against New England and try to capitalize

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Speaker 13: when that is our only option right now.

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Speaker 4: All right, we're on to New England. Great question from

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Speaker 4: Kelsey Conway, she said, after looking at all this is,

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Speaker 4: does this warrant any personnel changes? No? No, why what

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna warrn any changes? How can you say that

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Speaker 4: you've made personnel changes across the board all year?

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Speaker 2: How can you not say, you know what, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: have to look at the film and evaluate that. You

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Speaker 2: just shoot it down. Now we're good, We're okay with

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Speaker 2: the product. That was out there today. The score is

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Speaker 2: not indicative of what that game finished, you know. Scores

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Speaker 2: is no indicative of how close that game was, just that

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Speaker 2: that act is growing tired man.

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Speaker 4: Score is indicative of the fact that you're not a

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Speaker 4: good football team there, it is. The thing about the

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Speaker 4: Bengals is if they want to win, they need nearly

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Speaker 4: everything to go perfect. That's the sign of a bad

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Speaker 4: football team. You can't have penalties go against you. You

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Speaker 4: can't have turnovers go against you. You can't have a

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Speaker 4: coach screw up the game management or the clock management

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Speaker 4: or make a bad play call. You can't miss tackles.

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Speaker 4: You need the other team to make mistakes.

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Speaker 3: Like.

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Speaker 4: That's where the Bengals are at. They only win when

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Speaker 4: it's a perfect storm in their favor. Yeah, you mentioned it.

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Speaker 4: They're close to be an zero to ten, the Travis

723
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Speaker 4: Hunter call, de Andre Smitt miss like those things all

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Speaker 4: went in the bengals favor or else they lose those games.

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Speaker 4: And when you see like a team like Denver's a

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Speaker 4: good examp, I don't know that they've played their best

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Speaker 4: game yet this year. Find a way to win Philadelphia

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Speaker 4: last night, found a way to win New England. They

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Speaker 4: didn't play great against the Jets on Thursday night. Found

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Speaker 4: a way to win. The Bengals don't have that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's frustrating, it's maddening, and it's demoralizing more so

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Speaker 2: than anything else. We'll take a break. We'll take your

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Speaker 2: phone calls to finish up our number one. Next on

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Speaker 2: the Monday Midday Quarterback ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 9: What's up, it's Mulwagger Joint.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, Monday Midday Quarterback ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: You heard right there. Mulwagger and I are back at it.

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Speaker 2: At three o'clock this afternoon on the Tony and Mo

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Speaker 2: Football Show in Florence Twin Peaks in Florence, which means

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Speaker 2: at two o'clock this afternoon, I will head there. Austin

741
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Speaker 2: will have our number three. We'll get to that in

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Speaker 2: just a few moments. For now, our first time today

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Speaker 2: taking some phone calls. What's going on?

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Speaker 19: Oh man, that game yesterday and then the UC game Saturday,

745
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 19: so that was like and then the Princeton lost Friday.

746
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Speaker 19: I went to Princeton, so you know, so I got it.

747
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Speaker 19: I got hit in the stomach.

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Speaker 4: Three times punches in the weekend.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, so it's it safe to say it's okay for

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Speaker 19: me to complain about coaches now, because when I used

751
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Speaker 19: to uh, yesterday's game, what stood out to me was

752
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 19: that that two point conversion he tried at that point

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Speaker 19: in the game. I thought that was a dumb decision

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Speaker 19: and a dumb play call on top of it. Why

755
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Speaker 19: not just tie the game up and go from there.

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Speaker 19: I mean, there there was no need to chase points

757
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Speaker 19: at that at that point in the game. And then

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Speaker 19: later in the game. What I noticed with Pittsburgh's offense

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Speaker 19: was when they saw something that worked, you know, the

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Speaker 19: screen baths running back, Yeah, they just kept going to

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Speaker 19: it because it was working. Where this our coach, it

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Speaker 19: seemed like you you will see a play that works.

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Speaker 5: And then you'll never see it again, like the.

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Speaker 19: Tight end down the scene down the middle. Okay, we

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Speaker 19: saw no offense catch a touchdown against Chicago down the

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Speaker 19: middle of the field, but yesterday I didn't see none

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Speaker 19: of that. And that that play he fumbled on that

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Speaker 19: was that was the same play he fumbled on in Minnesota.

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Speaker 19: So it looked like it looked like his playbook for

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Speaker 19: as long as he's been the coach, I'm starting to

771
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Speaker 19: look at it like, Okay, he's just a coach, but

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Speaker 19: he's not a head coach. The Bengals don't have a

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Speaker 19: head coach. They got coaches, but they don't have a

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Speaker 19: head coach. And now now that all these changes have

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Speaker 19: took in place, now he has to he has to

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Speaker 19: coach now. And sometimes it looks like he's in over

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Speaker 19: his head, like you never you never see a counter?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when when when the defense.

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Speaker 19: Says, okay, we taking this away, you know, you never

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Speaker 19: see you never see a counter today, No, Jim. That's

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Speaker 19: that's the main thing that stands out to me about

782
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Speaker 19: his play It's always stood out to me about his

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Speaker 19: play calling is when there when something get taken away

784
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Speaker 19: from me, You never see a counter, You never see

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Speaker 19: a second.

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Speaker 4: A second move. Yeah, so all that's fair.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, let me get off and listen to the rest

788
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Speaker 19: of the mark.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you man. One thing, Awestoin, we didn't address this,

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Speaker 2: the two point conversion early in a game, when it

791
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Speaker 2: feels like the offense is picking back up in their rhythm.

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Speaker 2: I don't mind going for two because in today's kickoff rules,

793
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Speaker 2: you just don't gain as much with the fifteen yard penalty.

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Speaker 2: What I don't like is on the two point conversion,

795
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Speaker 2: you motion Joe Flacco out of the backfield and then

796
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 2: you a direct snap right up the middle at the

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Speaker 2: strongest point of part of Pittsburgh's defense. That's what I

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Speaker 2: have a problem with the platfem I'm going for it.

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Speaker 2: The play call was terrible. The play call was stupid.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're gonna motion Joe Flacco out. Pittsburgh was

801
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Speaker 2: probably laughing at that, like, Okay, yep, this guy's got

802
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Speaker 2: a bad shoulder, he can't move. You think he's a threat.

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Speaker 2: You still have Noah Fense and Chase Brown and t

804
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Speaker 2: Higgins and Jabar Chase down there. A lot of teams

805
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Speaker 2: will go for two in that scenario in the yes,

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Speaker 2: early in the game, most teams in the NFL would

807
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Speaker 2: have gone for two on that drive or on that situation.

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Speaker 4: But if you think about it, I mean that the

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Speaker 4: Bengals should run the ball pretty well on that drive. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: cut four and fifteen like they it made sense. Just

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Speaker 4: wasn't that too cute? Wasn't a good play call?

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Speaker 2: All right, here's what we'll do, Uh, John and Mike

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Speaker 2: and Brian. We'll get to your calls to start our

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Speaker 2: number two. Next, we'll take more on the Bengals and

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Speaker 2: some more on the Bear cap as well. Since e

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Speaker 2: three to sixty, the Monday Midday Quarterback thanks to Skyline

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Speaker 2: Chiley on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back our two Monday Midday Quarterback, ESPN fifteen thirty

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Speaker 2: spent much of our Number one discussing the Bengals and

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Speaker 2: their loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers yesterday, and I quite frankly, Austin,

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't know if they're remaining. Two hours

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Speaker 2: and three more hours later this afternoon will be enough

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Speaker 2: to discuss what went wrong yesterday for the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: They are a seven point home underdog looking ahead to

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Speaker 2: next week. Already Adam Schefter reporting that a decision from

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Speaker 2: the NFL is expected today as it relates to Jamar Chase,

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Speaker 2: So we will wait to see and hear what that

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Speaker 2: looks like. For now, let's get to a couple more

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Speaker 2: of these phone calls, and then we'll spend a little

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Speaker 2: time on the Bearcats and what happened to them on

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Speaker 2: Saturday as well.

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Speaker 4: Gunner is calling in. What's up?

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Speaker 3: Gunner?

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Speaker 4: Hey?

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Speaker 5: Hey you guys doing today?

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Speaker 4: Good? Thank you?

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Speaker 5: Just wanted to agree with a lot of what's being

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Speaker 5: said in all the last couple of callers.

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Speaker 21: Just you know, I for a long time have not

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Speaker 21: been a big Zach Taylor fan. Honestly, as bad as

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Speaker 21: the twenty nineteen season was. I just looked at that

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Speaker 21: and said, I don't this guy just seems out of

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Speaker 21: his depth. But for me, you know, a lot of

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Speaker 21: it just it's inconsistency everywhere, right, Tony, You've you've talked

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Speaker 21: about it a lot. Scheme and personnel, right, there's no

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Speaker 21: consistency there. But even if you just look at something,

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Speaker 21: you know, and play calling like the last coler mentioned,

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Speaker 21: I mean not you know, just insane, but just the drafting, right,

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Speaker 21: they always want to draft, you know, all American kid,

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Speaker 21: team captain, locker room guy. I think of a guy

865
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 21: like a chem identergy that they drafted. They're like, well,

866
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 21: this guy's a really he's a good kid. He's a

867
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 21: great guy, not a good football player, right, And they

868
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 21: switched it up right this last year they draft the

869
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:50,479
Speaker 21: athletic freak Shamar Stewart, you know, but no no real

870
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 21: stats in college, right, no real.

871
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 5: Nothing to speak over there.

872
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 21: Well, you know what, guys, he might not be very

873
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 21: good at football then, right, If he's that athletic and

874
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 21: he can't make any plays on the field for three years,

875
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 21: it might not be very good at football.

876
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 22: Right.

877
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,399
Speaker 5: Well, then they but they don't repeat that pattern.

878
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 21: And draft the you know, athletic freak in the second round.

879
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 5: What do they do? They say, Hey, let's let's waste.

880
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 21: The top forty pick on a twenty five year old

881
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 21: linebacker like a reach. Also also, guys, if you're twenty

882
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 21: five years old and you're still playing college football, probably

883
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 21: not very good at football, correct, Right? So, I just

884
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 21: I don't understand what they're doing. They need to rip

885
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 21: everything out top to bottom. And you know, it's just

886
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 21: it shouldn't be this hard to draft good players, right.

887
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 21: Miles Murphy another one, super athletic, all this stuff, high

888
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 21: high end recruit, actually coming out of high school, five

889
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 21: star kid. And then kJ Henry Book went to Clemson.

890
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 21: If you're at Clemson for four years as a top

891
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 21: ten recruit with little production, even though you're really athletic,

892
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 21: guess what, probably not very good at football, right, Gino

893
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 21: Stone seventh round pick? Why do the Ravens let go

894
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,479
Speaker 21: of a guy that's a seventh round pick that played

895
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 21: some good football for them, Probably not very good at football?

896
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 21: Why does he agree to take a pay cut? Not

897
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 21: very good at football?

898
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 7: Right?

899
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 5: It's just so they got to fix it. I'll hang

900
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 5: up and listen to you.

901
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 4: Guys, that all made a lot of sense. Yeah, I

902
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 4: mean they listen.

903
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 2: If I was Demetrius Knight and I could stay in

904
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 2: college and make a good amount of money, and I'm

905
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 2: twenty four to twenty five years old, I'm probably gonna

906
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 2: stay in college because Gunner's right. If you're twenty five

907
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 2: and playing in college, still that probably means you're not

908
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 2: getting the NFL looks. If you're Miles Murphy and you

909
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 2: spend four years at Clemson, probably not NFL Like that

910
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 2: that makes sense when you match it with the lack

911
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: of production we're seeing from guys, and we know the

912
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: draft process has been bad.

913
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Demetrious Knight had, you know, different circumstances

914
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 4: going on with his personal life, but still, you know,

915
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 4: it was a similar pick to Shamar Stewart, where it's

916
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 4: this guy has the traits that we're looking for, not

917
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 4: necessarily the production, and he is a little bit old,

918
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 4: so maybe he's smarter and maybe he can pick up

919
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 4: the defense. Blah blah blah blah blah. Well it just

920
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 4: hasn't translated to the NFL. There's just everything about their

921
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 4: process needs to be reevaluated because they can't seem to

922
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 4: make up their mind what they're gonna do. Are they

923
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 4: gonna go get this freak trait athlete? Are they going

924
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 4: to go get a team captain who is productive? Or

925
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 4: are they gonna go get, you know, somebody with the

926
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 4: sketchy past who can be a difference maker. I don't

927
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 4: know they They don't seem to be able to cut

928
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 4: to make up their mind, correct, Mike blue Ash, what's up?

929
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 18: They?

930
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 23: Tone?

931
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:37,240
Speaker 19: And Audie?

932
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 24: Uh, I'm not going to waste a lot of time

933
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 24: on the Bengals. All you have to look at and

934
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 24: I don't think you all talking up about it. The

935
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 24: Ravens have thirty five guys in their player personnel department.

936
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 24: The Bengals have eight, sure enough, st you.

937
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 4: Know, Browns the most in the AFC North.

938
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Speaker 2: So it might come down to the Browns and Bengals

939
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 2: in the It's not necessarily an exact science because the

940
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 2: Browns have the biggest scouting department in the NFL, in

941
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 2: THEFC North.

942
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 4: But I get your point.

943
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 24: Oh yeah, I think I think you need to check that, Addie.

944
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 24: I don't think that's correct. I think the Ravens probably

945
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 24: the biggest. But so let's get to UC's game on Saturday.

946
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:18,720
Speaker 24: What has ever happened to bump and run coverage again.

947
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 24: I remember probably ten twelve years ago, I think was

948
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 24: Alabama against LSU. Patrick Patterson was with LSU and Patrick

949
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 24: certain was with Bama, and I mean they were playing

950
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 24: bump and run all night long. The wide receivers were

951
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 24: getting chucked at the line. And you see, you know,

952
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 24: when it's third and six, the DB's off eight nine yards,

953
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 24: the guy just goes around, out, turns around five six

954
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 24: yards out, gets the first down.

955
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 19: Yeah, what happened?

956
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 24: What adjustments did Arizona make tone on Saturday against our

957
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 24: running attack? We were running the ball well in the

958
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 24: first quarter.

959
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike, thank you for this phone call. Ran the

960
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 2: ball extremely well in the first quarter. And then Arizona

961
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 2: essentially said we're gonna bring eleven guys within seven yards

962
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 2: of the line of scrimmage and we're going to dare

963
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 2: you to beat us in the passing game. And the

964
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,720
Speaker 2: Bearcats were unable to do it. That's the short answer

965
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 2: to a long story that unfolded on Saturday. And on

966
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball, I couldn't agree more.

967
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 2: Multiple third downs in that game, meaningful third downs where

968
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 2: Arizona was able to operate with ten yards cushion at

969
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 2: the wide receiver position. One of the biggest third downs

970
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 2: of the game, third and five, with the game essentially

971
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 2: your big twelve hopes on the line, the Bearcats had

972
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 2: eight yards of separation. Didn't even put up a contest

973
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 2: that there was frustration on the defensive side of the ball,

974
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,240
Speaker 2: frustration on the inability to meet to beat man coverages.

975
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 2: As crazy and as much as we talked about the

976
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 2: Bengals coming out of a bye and not being seemingly

977
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 2: ready to see zone coverage early in that game, I

978
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 2: felt the exact opposite for the Bearcats, who against Utah

979
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 2: saw all man coverage, struggled against it, and looked like

980
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 2: they didn't prepare to beat man coverage on Saturday coming

981
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 2: out of a bye week. Maddening on all accounts. We'll

982
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 2: talk more bearcatch in just a moment. A couple more

983
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 2: phone calls to here, Brian, what's up?

984
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 25: Hey, how you guys doing second?

985
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 4: I'm good to talk to you. Good good.

986
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 25: So yeah, I thought it was pretty funny when you

987
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,919
Speaker 25: snickered when Zack said, all there'll be no changes personnel wise,

988
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 25: and I thought that he should use the media as

989
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 25: an avenue to talk to his players.

990
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 18: And hold them accountable and do that.

991
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 25: And that's what I just don't understand is that how

992
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 25: could he I mean, his job's online, he has to

993
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 25: feel on the heat. I don't understand how he could

994
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 25: be curious with the team, like, what are you guys doing?

995
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 25: This is we're embarrassing ourselves out there and this is

996
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 25: not acceptable. And I don't I don't get why he

997
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 25: hasn't held people, why he would not use opportunity to

998
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 25: hold people accountable right there and say, yeah, people, yeah,

999
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 25: we're gonna be looking at personnel this week because this

1000
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 25: isn't this isn't working. But I just I just don't

1001
00:53:58,840 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 25: get it.

1002
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 5: We can you answered me that sit for me.

1003
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 4: I don't think you can.

1004
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 26: My hope is doin to him.

1005
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brian, I appreciate the phone call. Man, Look, Austin,

1006
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 2: I don't expect in a postgame interview like that. I

1007
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,439
Speaker 2: don't expect Zach Taylor to get up there and say, yeah,

1008
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 2: we're gonna make personnel decisions immediately. What I do expect

1009
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 2: is coming out of a buy. What happened today was

1010
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 2: not acceptable. So at this point everything's on the table.

1011
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 2: We're gonna evaluate things and everything's on the table. What's

1012
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 2: wrong with that? Why is why is a coach whose

1013
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 2: seat is getting warmer so adamant after a game that

1014
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 2: there's not gonna be personnel changes. What's the harmon saying

1015
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 2: we're going to continue to evaluate everything because the product's

1016
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 2: not good enough.

1017
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean my only thought is he was just

1018
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 4: so mad and angry at the moment that he just

1019
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 4: wanted to get out of there. And he talked for

1020
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 4: like a total of three and a half minutes. Yeah,

1021
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 4: so maybe that was part of it, and he's just like,

1022
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 4: let's get this over with. Yeah, but still, which is fair.

1023
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 4: You're it's your job, but it's your job and you've

1024
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:11,760
Speaker 4: had no problem performing in uh coach speak in the past.

1025
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 4: So what you're what you're asking for? Your answer right there?

1026
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 4: You were asking for coach speak? Yeah, and he could

1027
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 4: even give you that correct one more here, can we'll

1028
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 4: get to the bear counts? What's up?

1029
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:21,919
Speaker 26: John?

1030
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 27: Good afternoon, Tony Good afternoon, Austin certainly the most interesting

1031
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 27: and probably nauseating stream seventeen in the NFL, right, I mean,

1032
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 27: it's so much to talk about.

1033
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:33,240
Speaker 4: They're certainly not boring.

1034
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 5: Yep.

1035
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 27: To your point, earlier about the play calls coming in. Uh,

1036
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 27: just remember back to Week one against Cleveland when Borrow

1037
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 27: was in the huddle and he's like waving over to

1038
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 27: the bench, like, get the play call in. This is

1039
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 27: the season opener. You have a lot of time that

1040
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 27: they weren't even ready for it.

1041
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.

1042
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 27: As far as Zach Tell's resume, just updated statistics with

1043
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 27: Joe Burrow as a starting quarterback forty five thirty two

1044
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:01,439
Speaker 27: and one without him as a starting quarterback nine and twenty.

1045
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 27: So I've said this before that Bows putting a lot

1046
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 27: of kids through private schools, whether they were Brian Callahan's kids.

1047
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 5: Or Zach Hillis kids.

1048
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 4: What have you.

1049
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 27: My other question about yesterday, I think they abandoned the

1050
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 27: running game. I mean, you could see the conditions weren't

1051
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 27: best for forty year old quarterbacks, both Flacco and Rogers.

1052
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 27: Flaco's dealing with the shoulder. We saw the adjustment Pittsburgh

1053
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 27: made on defense, and it just didn't seem right from

1054
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 27: the start, even though they did score in their first drive,

1055
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 27: like they abandoned that running game. It was thirteen to

1056
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 27: nine late in the third quarter, and they're all out

1057
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 27: abandoning the running game.

1058
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 4: They're just frustrating.

1059
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 18: Yeah.

1060
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

1061
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 27: And just in terms of Gino Smith, I mean, man

1062
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 27: talk about business decisions, and I remember we talked about

1063
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 27: a month month and a half ago the Patriots moved

1064
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 27: on from Kyle Duggar and Jabiroll Peppers, who I didn't

1065
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 27: think much of, but ca canc Gino Smith. They look

1066
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 27: like Ed Reid and Troy Palamoo. I mean, you get

1067
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 27: kid pick six and you know what's funny, guys, he's

1068
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 27: a playmaker.

1069
00:56:58,360 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 4: He'll he'll, he'll do that.

1070
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 27: On Boston Sports Talk video today, the talk was I

1071
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 27: don't remember Kyle Dugle being that athletic.

1072
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 5: Well, the difference is no.

1073
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 27: One gave a don about tackling him on.

1074
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 5: That pick six.

1075
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 23: The offense gave up on that play. I mean, it's just.

1076
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 27: Really like just crazy, crazy stuff and it's just it's

1077
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 27: frustrating to watch it. At this point, it's probably too late,

1078
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 27: but the coach has to go at some point when

1079
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 27: the team doesn't even give a don about it, the

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00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 27: coach has to be held responsible for that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, John, appreciate your words, thank you for calling, thank

1082
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 2: you for listening. That's the thing, Austin, it just feels

1083
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 2: like more and more of the foundation crumbling each week.

1084
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase and now spitting on a player. What's going

1085
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 2: on with Trey hendrickson, Shamar Stewart on the ir The

1086
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 2: team is not tackling, the team is not responding, it

1087
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 2: seems in games. You know, the offense yesterday was was

1088
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 2: not what it needed to be. It just it feels

1089
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 2: like this is becoming harder and harder to navigate now

1090
00:57:55,000 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 2: for Zach Taylor on the college slate real quick. The

1091
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 2: Bearcats fell, and in falling, essentially erased their chances of

1092
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 2: playing in a Big twelve championship game. They lose to

1093
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 2: Arizona at home on Saturday. It was bad from the start.

1094
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 2: Brendan Sowarsby's first pass of the game was intercepted. Two

1095
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 2: plays later. Arizona took a seven to nothing lead, but

1096
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 2: the Bearcats responded. Todby Walker had one hundred rushing yards

1097
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 2: in the first quarter. He only finished with one nineteen.

1098
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 2: UC bounced back from a seven zero terrible start. They

1099
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 2: were up fourteen to seven. Austin, you were at the game.

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00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 2: The defense got four consecutive stops, Yeah, four times. Brendan

1101
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 2: Sowarsby and the offense were given the ball back with

1102
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 2: a seven point lead and did nothing with it. And

1103
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,919
Speaker 2: then Arizona started making plays, and they scored right before

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00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 2: the half with the field goal, and then they scored

1105
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 2: on their subsequent first four possessions of the second half.

1106
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 2: Things fell apart at the wrong time for the Cincinnati Bearcat.

1107
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 2: The offense sputtered. They have no answer for man coverage.

1108
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,439
Speaker 2: They had no answer for cover zero brendan swersby who

1109
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 2: was eleven for thirty three against Utah two weeks ago,

1110
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 2: came out of the bium was fifteen to twenty eight

1111
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 2: with a touchdown and two interceptions, only ran the ball

1112
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 2: for thirty yards. The defense could not get a stop

1113
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 2: when necessary, and with everything on the table and that

1114
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 2: BYU matchup looming, the Bearcats failed to take care of business,

1115
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 2: which means they're not playing now. On the way out

1116
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 2: to win their next two and go to the Big

1117
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 2: twelve Championship, They've lost that they need a ton of

1118
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 2: things to happen, things that aren't going to happen because

1119
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 2: the teams ahead of them played bad football teams. But

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00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 2: they still do get big noon kickoff coming in on Saturday.

1121
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 2: They got an eight pm start against BYU two opportunities left. Look,

1122
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 2: in my opinion, nine and three would be a successful season,

1123
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 2: but this feels more like it's trending to seven and

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00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 2: five than nine and three.

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Speaker 4: That's the worrisome part.

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00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 2: With a really good football team coming into Nippert Stadium,

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00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 2: who is going to challenge you with man demand coverage

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00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 2: in which UC has not hit and answer Austin, was

1129
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 2: there any big takeaways as well from you being at

1130
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:03,919
Speaker 2: the game as well?

1131
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, just it felt like Sowresby was predetermining a lot

1132
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 4: of his looks. I mean, the first throw of the

1133
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 4: game made no sense whatsoever. It felt like Scott Sanderfield

1134
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 4: got away from running the ball. I'm sure Arizona made

1135
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 4: some adjustments, but gosh, the offense and the efficiency in

1136
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 4: the ground game early was carrying, you see, and it

1137
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 4: just felt like they went away from that. But overall,

1138
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 4: I put a lot of it on Soresby, and you know,

1139
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 4: I think early on some of the man covers on

1140
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 4: the corners and the outside was okay, but just over

1141
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 4: time Arizona found holes and they exploited it. And then

1142
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 4: when you couple that with being able to run, that's

1143
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:50,479
Speaker 4: a hard offense to defend with an experienced quarterback who

1144
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 4: he wasn't running all over the place, but he could

1145
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:55,919
Speaker 4: buy some extra time enough. If he needed to dip

1146
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 4: out and get four yards, he would. If he needed

1147
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 4: to throw it away, he would. He did a good

1148
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 4: job for the most part keeping them on schedule, especially

1149
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 4: in the second half.

1150
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, disappointing result. Big noon kickoff comes to town Saturday

1151
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 2: BYU is nip at night. Let's take one more phone call.

1152
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 2: I don't know who it is. We don't know who

1153
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 2: is calling. Let's take this phone call before we get

1154
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 2: to talkbacks. Hello caller, what's going on?

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01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: Tony?

1156
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 23: How you doing?

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01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 22: Buddy good?

1158
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 12: How are you.

1159
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 5: Pretty good?

1160
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 23: Pretty good?

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01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 3: Pip?

1162
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Speaker 4: How are you doing? Who's this?

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Speaker 12: Coop?

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01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 23: How you doing?

1165
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 14: What's up?

1166
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 3: Coop?

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01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 23: Uh? Do we know who actually makes decisions at the Bengals?

1168
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 23: I mean, I know we got Duke Tobin, player of personnel, director, whatever,

1169
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 23: who makes the decisions.

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01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 18: We don't even know.

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01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 4: How the offense is called.

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01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 23: It's done by committee. That's the biggest problem I have

1173
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 23: is I don't know who's in charge.

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01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 26: Who does what?

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01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 23: Does Duke actually pick the players or is it done

1176
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 23: by committee? Who makes the decisions on any level. Does

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01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 23: anybody really know?

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01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 4: I think it's Mike, Duke and Zach and kind of

1179
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 4: the group and circle they have around them. But it's

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01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 4: those three mainly.

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01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 23: Well, it's not working.

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01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 4: No, it's not it's not working. It's not working anyways.

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01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 23: Man, it's frustrating when your football team is done for

1184
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 23: the third year in a row by Thanksgiving. I mean,

1185
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 23: it's it's it's disheartening, but anyways, who.

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Speaker 8: Have a good day.

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01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 4: I think disheartening is a good word. Yeah, I think

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01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 4: this feels a lot different than the last two. Though

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01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 4: the last two they had a chance. Yeah, it wasn't

1190
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 4: over by Thanksgiving last year and the year before, there

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01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:55,479
Speaker 4: was a path.

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01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 2: This time it is. There was a path and and

1193
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,959
Speaker 2: now we're getting to that scary zone. But we're gonna

1194
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 2: start talking about mock drafts on Mondays.

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01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 4: There's there's a lot of different issues within the organization,

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01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 4: and Coop brings up one of them. Who's making the

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01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 4: decision and is everybody on the same page with those decisions?

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Speaker 4: Is there a plan that you are sticking to? I

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01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 4: think playing forward, I think it's obvious what the plan

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Speaker 4: has been, which is young defense, controllable develop give them

1201
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 4: playing time. I get all that problem is it doesn't work.

1202
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:32,919
Speaker 4: So at what point do you say, Okay, this isn't

1203
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 4: work and we're gonna try something else. Yeah, And you

1204
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 4: can look at that at different levels. We've got at

1205
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 4: the head coach, you look at the director of player personnel.

1206
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 4: You can go at the promotions you made to the

1207
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 4: skouting department. There's nothing, there's no rule that says they

1208
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 4: have to keep out Golden more than a year. I mean,

1209
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 4: he obviously hasn't done what you called him in here

1210
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 4: to do, so I can't. I have too much respect

1211
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 4: for Mike Brown to think that this is sitting well

1212
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 4: for him. That's the core of it. This has to

1213
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 4: be eating somebody up. It does. I know it does

1214
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 4: with Mike. And I know that there's a narrative out

1215
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 4: there that Mike doesn't care, and I just want you

1216
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 4: to be on that's not true. He cares and this

1217
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 4: is not he This has got to be driving him nuts.

1218
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 4: But what do you do to improve the situation? Yeah,

1219
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 4: that's where we're at now. Yep, how can they improve it?

1220
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 2: That is the completely different conversation that we are unfortunately

1221
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 2: going to have to dive into much more going forward.

1222
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 2: Because of where this team stands. We know where we're going.

1223
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 2: Now it's a break and then talkbacks next on the

1224
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 2: Monday midday quarterback ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1225
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 4: And it covers the Bengals.

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01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 1: Like ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station, it's.

1227
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 28: A time for talkbacks.

1228
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 3: Go and grab your phone and record a message.

1229
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 5: Just h that microphone.

1230
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 4: Please keep it clean and mean.

1231
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 16: And those spreakal drip drips.

1232
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 4: It's a time for tough backs.

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01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 9: It's her favorite party since e three sixty.

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01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 3: So Austin, buddy, play those.

1235
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 22: Tuk backs on your screen and please dRIT not do

1236
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 22: sabotage it.

1237
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 2: You know, on afternoons like this, it is my favorite

1238
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 2: part to hear what you with the people have to

1239
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 2: say in regards to what you witnessed over the weekend talkbacks.

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01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 29: Thanks, bench cut. It's a tough matchup. The score was

1241
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 29: not indicative of the outcome. We have to execute and

1242
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 29: play better.

1243
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 2: I'll start executing play better. I'll bench score was not indicative,

1244
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 2: and I'll cut the first one.

1245
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna cut. Score was not indicative. I'm gonna

1246
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 4: bench Gotta execute better. Man, tough matchup, I'm gonna start execute.

1247
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 4: I can't stand the tough matchups.

1248
01:05:58,680 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 14: You know.

1249
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 4: Brian Kelly was once famously asked what do you think

1250
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 4: of your team's execution, and he said, I'm in favor

1251
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 4: of it.

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01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 22: Ron number forty ohel Watching that Bengal game yesterday made

1253
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 22: me spitting mad. After the game, I even denied I

1254
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 22: was a Bengal fan at all.

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01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 4: I'm through day. Oh no, who did it? I was

1256
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 4: thinking about wearing my shirt today that in the Bengals

1257
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 4: spont it says someday, d e wat that'd be fun.

1258
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 24: Man chose interview after that first playoff win against Tennessee

1259
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 24: when he said, this is the new standard.

1260
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 4: Seems like decades ago, now, doesn't it, ma'am? It does?

1261
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 4: You ain't kidding. That just pissed me off.

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01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 30: People of Sincy three sixty Austin. This is Jim from

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01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 30: Ross Hi. Jim, We're angry. The name Cincinnati goes before

1264
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 30: the Bengals, and now it means very little.

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01:06:58,960 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 14: You know.

1266
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 31: Integrity is something and defense is a big part of football.

1267
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 31: Let's build a team, rebuild it with some integrity and

1268
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 31: some defense. Trade Jamar for a couple of defensive players.

1269
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 31: Tee Higgins is the best player on the field. You

1270
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 31: haven't earned those stripes. Take them off the uniforms. Put

1271
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 31: Cincinnati back on the helmets. Oh my god, love each other.

1272
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 5: We'll be Tony HATI. It's Quinn from Oakley.

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01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 32: Maybe my nice return back from Monterey, California for a wedding. Tony,

1274
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 32: it was great to listen to you on the Heart

1275
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 32: radio app in California, despite the fact that the reception

1276
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 32: somehow on seventeen mile driving and doing all the scenic

1277
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 32: stuff you all get, you all get cutting out, So

1278
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 32: it's great to listen to you. I wish that the

1279
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 32: Sports Weekend and said to say it was a little

1280
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 32: bit better.

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01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 4: You and me both, Buddy, You and me both.

1282
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 33: Hi, Tony and Austin. This is Gina. I saw this

1283
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 33: interesting comment on my phone this morning about the Bengals

1284
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 33: about Zach Taylor, and it's said a culture of toxic

1285
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 33: positivity breeds complacency and the lack of accountability.

1286
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 4: I thought that was pretty interesting. This team is soft.

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01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 33: It doesn't matter who the assistance or players are around Taylor.

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01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 4: He is the common denominator.

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01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 3: So I'm not mad.

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01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 4: I'm not frustrated anymore.

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01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 33: I guess now it's just a waiting game.

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01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 2: That's a word I wrote down on the top of

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01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:29,680
Speaker 2: my notes today in bold caps soft. Yeah, I mean

1294
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 2: it's a soft team.

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01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 3: Said it.

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Speaker 4: From the very beginning of this season. It was pretty

1297
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 4: apparent that they were a soft group. But she brings

1298
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 4: up a good point. Toxic positivity breeds complacency and a

1299
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 4: lack of accountability. How often have one of us been

1300
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 4: criticized for being too negative?

1301
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 5: Yep?

1302
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 4: And I have always said that toxic positivity is just

1303
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 4: as damaging as toxic negativity. I think back to and

1304
01:08:57,840 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 4: I'm going to talk about this a little bit in

1305
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 4: our three, but just two weeks ago, Chase Brown holding

1306
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 4: the defense accountable and Zach Taylor jumps him for it.

1307
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 4: Not who we are?

1308
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 3: Huh?

1309
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 14: Not?

1310
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 4: Who we are? Is that not supposed to be the standard?

1311
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 4: That's leaders you want, right that's leader is in the

1312
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 4: locker room to jump on somebody. Yeah, so you know

1313
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 4: that sort of stuff right there is I think that's

1314
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:24,639
Speaker 4: a good point.

1315
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 34: Hey, it's Jack Over and College hill Man. Our team

1316
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 34: couldn't hold up in the GCL. It's a shame. You're

1317
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 34: a professional coach, Zach. What do you mean the score

1318
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 34: is not indicative. That's what you say in an upward

1319
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 34: basketball league. Anyway, my daughter met the Bearcat this weekend, Sophia,

1320
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 34: what you think of the Bearcat?

1321
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 5: Hot enough, very nice guys, big Kahuna Kentucky.

1322
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 35: Bottom line, Zach Taylor's lost all control of this franchise.

1323
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 35: I'd say three and eleven. And if Burrow does play

1324
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 35: to get ready for next year, I say that he

1325
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 35: play against Miami in Arizona. That's sick Cleveland because they

1326
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:02,640
Speaker 35: would do nothing, but they would love nothing more to

1327
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 35: knock him out. And I was looking for a high

1328
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 35: school game this weekend.

1329
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 5: I was thinking, say next Elder.

1330
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 35: But after that Fox nineteen special by Joe Daniman on

1331
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,600
Speaker 35: the grill work but Julius out of Indian Heill, I

1332
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 35: think I'm going to go out there for the regional

1333
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 35: finals and try that chicken sandwich. Can you ask Joe

1334
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 35: D tomorrow if that chicken sandwich but Julius is worth it?

1335
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 5: Man?

1336
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 4: Can we write that down? I'm sure Joe is listening

1337
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 4: as we speak.

1338
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 36: Is Todd. I am addicted to hopeium. I am twenty

1339
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 36: four hours clean and sober from said hope.

1340
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 4: It's one day at a time.

1341
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 7: You know.

1342
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 36: I know this season is over and there's not enough

1343
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:40,680
Speaker 36: hope hum in the world to get me to the

1344
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 36: finish line. And I just want you guys, the talkbackers,

1345
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 36: to know I still love and appreciate you, and I'll

1346
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 36: still root for the Bengals on Sunday.

1347
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 4: Hooday, Okay, yeah, thank you.

1348
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 5: Well.

1349
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 37: I guess Ramsey was leaving a bad taste in gianzz

1350
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 37: mouth and he just had to get it out there.

1351
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 5: We'll see what happens there, man.

1352
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 37: I thought they played decent for the most part and

1353
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,679
Speaker 37: just absolutely unpload on third downs and the fourth quarter,

1354
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 37: especially Black. I guess his shoulder was bothering in and

1355
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 37: they did not look nowhere near his visit dad the

1356
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:14,759
Speaker 37: last two or three weeks.

1357
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 5: That says that's a rap on the twenty twenty five season.

1358
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:23,679
Speaker 38: Folks, take care and who they are, all right, Dan, Austin, Tony.

1359
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 38: This is old man grumpy, and I don't want to

1360
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 38: sound like a one trick pony, but can you guys

1361
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 38: give me any reason why Zach Taylor and Duke Tobin

1362
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 38: are still employed by the Bengals organization.

1363
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 4: I can't understand it. Let me know, see you, I

1364
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,560
Speaker 4: have no reasons why Duke is still employed. Yeah, I

1365
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 4: don't know that. I have nothing. Zach I think is

1366
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 4: a good offensive coach and a good man. Those are

1367
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 4: like the only two reasons I can come up with.

1368
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 4: Do you have any for either? I don't really. I

1369
01:11:58,840 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 4: think we've exhausted them.

1370
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 39: Oh, the Chase spitting incident not a good look. I

1371
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:13,640
Speaker 39: can't stand Ramsey. Miles Murphy finally did something. If Ginostone's

1372
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:16,679
Speaker 39: afraid to tackle man, he wouldn't play on my team.

1373
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 39: I thought last year was a real sad year for

1374
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 39: the Bengals. This one man, this is even more depressing

1375
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 39: last year.

1376
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's tough.

1377
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 3: He and the other boy.

1378
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 40: Anyway, you see Clifton football just not that good. Let's

1379
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 40: face it, guys, we got old one Red Surphy. I'm

1380
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 40: gonna throw it right into coverage because I can't read

1381
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 40: man defense and I gotta get rid of it at

1382
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:50,680
Speaker 40: Dante Carlyon's slow and fat. Oh he's injured. He was

1383
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,759
Speaker 40: injured last year, he's injured this year. The best ability

1384
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:54,640
Speaker 40: is availability.

1385
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 41: He don't have it.

1386
01:12:56,080 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 42: Be Hey, Austin, Hey, Tony branded an indie here. Well,

1387
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 42: it's been a long season for the Pacers as well.

1388
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 42: They're one in twelve, part of the worst start in

1389
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 42: franchise history. Anyways, as far as the Bengals are concerned,

1390
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 42: not onledge do I think they have They lost it

1391
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 42: on the field. I think they've lost it in the

1392
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 42: locker room. And I just think Zach Taylor somewhat has

1393
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 42: lost his team. And Jamar Chase should know what is

1394
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 42: appropriate and what's not appropriate. So guess whatever he gets,

1395
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 42: he gets, but don't.

1396
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:32,759
Speaker 4: Where he gets he gets.

1397
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 43: Hey, dudes, Brandon and Anderson. I missed the majority of

1398
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 43: yesterday's games, so when I saw the score, I thought, man,

1399
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 43: we got blowed out. But then I was encouraged because

1400
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 43: I heard Zach say that the score was not indicative

1401
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 43: as well as we played.

1402
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 4: I did get to listen to.

1403
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 43: A little and Dan Horde had mentioned Eli Apple. Is

1404
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 43: it sad that this team is so bad that I

1405
01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 43: miss a guy like Eli Apple?

1406
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 4: Yes? Yeah, that's how bad it is. I mean, you

1407
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 4: could really look at it this way, that the team

1408
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 4: really hasn't done much since Eli left.

1409
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 44: Yeah, out here, Sonny Hotny with our body man, you

1410
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:14,799
Speaker 44: see football, real talk defense, Marshmallow soft. You don't feature

1411
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 44: Joe Royer. That's irritating. Just why this offense disappear like that?

1412
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 44: And up Bengals? Real talk, man, The defense is marshmallow soft, terrible,

1413
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 44: just bad. Actually, Cincinnati's only team gonna win next week

1414
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 44: because you see basketball team starting to worry me a

1415
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 44: little bit. You played it against a little but we're gonna

1416
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 44: get dog walk and y'ap any journeyman backup quarterback does

1417
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 44: good against the Bengals.

1418
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 45: Bookie, Yeah, what a weekend? Sat and swarthy man, I'm

1419
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 45: not sold. They seem to shrink in the big games.

1420
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 45: Where's Waldough more like where's Joe Royer? Can't seem to

1421
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 45: find him anywhere at three thirty five? Defense is what

1422
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 45: I'd call a nick doom to watch the situational awareness

1423
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 45: on those shorts to go downs. I'm not pumped for either.

1424
01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 45: You see game this weekend, but maybe don't prove me wrong.

1425
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 45: Bengals gotta make some changes. Man, offense got bullied and

1426
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 45: when the defense showed up, Chase shouldn't have spit. But man,

1427
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 45: that seemed like a bounty game against him.

1428
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 4: Who's got a bigger chance. There was a cheap shot

1429
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 4: against Uh, there was a cheap.

1430
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 2: Shot sitting on somebody who's got a better chance to

1431
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:19,600
Speaker 2: pull off an upset? You see Friday Night or you

1432
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 2: see Saturday Night?

1433
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 4: You see Saturday Night.

1434
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 2: Do you think there's anything yet, you think there's any

1435
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:28,639
Speaker 2: conversation in New England today about maybe looking at Josh

1436
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 2: Dobbs this week just because of just because of the success,

1437
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 2: Josh Dobbs could do whatever he wants.

1438
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 4: Is the Vito with the Patriots? I didn't know they

1439
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 4: got May Dobbs the veto dude. Okay, let's talk about

1440
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 4: this second half Sunday. One of them comes in. Do

1441
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 4: one of those two guys play yes, just to you know,

1442
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 4: give Drake May? One of them will get snaps on Sunday?

1443
01:15:54,640 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 46: Okay, How on God's Green Earth are the Bang only

1444
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 46: only a seven point dog to the nine and two Patriots?

1445
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1446
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 46: Patriots. Mike Rabel a real NFL.

1447
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 4: Head coach Zach Taylor.

1448
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 46: With Zach Taylor, his wife.

1449
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:19,640
Speaker 5: Probably has to order off a menu.

1450
01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 46: Form of restaurants.

1451
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 5: Put that in Patriots by a million.

1452
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 4: I'll say this. That's mean. I'll say this mean my

1453
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 4: wife orders for me. You know what's I get less than? Man?

1454
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 2: Here's what I'll say. I would assume Wait a minute,

1455
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 2: does she actually, I mean she knows. She knows, like

1456
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 2: if she's going to pick up foods, she knows what

1457
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 2: to get me. Okay, I'll say this.

1458
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 4: I would.

1459
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 2: I would imagine at some point today Jamar Chase is

1460
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 2: going to be suspended for a game. It would also

1461
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:52,960
Speaker 2: not surprise me if we hear in the next twenty

1462
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 2: four hours that Joe Flacco is questionable.

1463
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:56,679
Speaker 4: M hmm.

1464
01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 2: I don't expect Trey Hendrickson to play. When those things

1465
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 2: are confirmed. I would imagine the line shoots up further.

1466
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 2: So if you're inclined, I would get on it.

1467
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 4: Now.

1468
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 47: This DJ the season was over when they lost to

1469
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:15,839
Speaker 47: the Jets. Now even the optimistic fans ought to recognize

1470
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 47: it's over.

1471
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 4: It's tough.

1472
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,679
Speaker 47: So for me, having seen the decline of the Marvin

1473
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 47: Lewis era, I'm route formed to lose every game because

1474
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 47: that's the only way this leadership or the leadership team,

1475
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,840
Speaker 47: the ownership team will do anything. And even with that,

1476
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 47: it will not be enough. I know people have a

1477
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 47: problem with that, but that's how bad this ownership is.

1478
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 4: It has to be a complete collapse. I do think

1479
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:41,840
Speaker 4: there's some something to that. You know, and we're you

1480
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:44,599
Speaker 4: look at the schedule. They got seven games left, man,

1481
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 4: and four of them are tough as hell. Yep, five

1482
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 4: dogs in the next five of them. The way Miami's they.

1483
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,719
Speaker 2: Might be a dog against Miami because Miami is playing better.

1484
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 4: If Devin ah Chan is healthy in that game, oh

1485
01:17:56,200 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 4: my gosh, he could set the single game record. I'm

1486
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 4: not kidding about it.

1487
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 3: But like.

1488
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 4: I said a couple of weeks ago, if it gets

1489
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:11,200
Speaker 4: to a point where it is a complete unraveling and embarrassing,

1490
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 4: they will make a change. I think we're close to that.

1491
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 4: I really do. GoJ east Side.

1492
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 48: I got a clip from Zach's presser. Hey, Zach, can

1493
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:22,519
Speaker 48: you tell us about the game?

1494
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:23,599
Speaker 5: Was that tough?

1495
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 30: Are you okay?

1496
01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 48: Yeah, thanks for the question. Tough sledding against Pittsburgh. It

1497
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 48: was hard to hear and to make matters worse, it

1498
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 48: would win. And you probably noticed that test low winter

1499
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:36,599
Speaker 48: sun my caller didn't sink. So we were off schedule

1500
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 48: in early now, plus the gatorade taste on it. But

1501
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 48: we're working like hell. We're gonna clean this up with

1502
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 48: a little spit shine. I have full confidence in everything

1503
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 48: we're doing.

1504
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 4: Thank Zach.

1505
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1506
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 4: Zach said he had the he has the worst seat

1507
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 4: in the house. Yeah, it's called the hot seat. Zact

1508
01:18:55,000 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 4: by get rid of him. Yeah, where do we gom here?

1509
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 8: Boys? Barreck Carter couldn't cover an eighty year old on

1510
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 8: a walker, and three to four other Bengals defenders couldn't

1511
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 8: tackle said eighty year old with the walker. Duke Tobin

1512
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 8: and Zach Taylor should not be able to touch another draft

1513
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 8: pick or coach another game. It is bad. We have

1514
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 8: entered a rebuild mode. I don't even know if there's

1515
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 8: a way up from here.

1516
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 4: It's hard to go against it.

1517
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 49: Hey, fellas, this is Ron and Tony Pike's Wisconsin.

1518
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:34,400
Speaker 4: What a brutal weekend for me.

1519
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:39,799
Speaker 49: First the Vikings snatch defeat from the jaws of victory,

1520
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 49: then the Bearcats look like the twenty twenty four version,

1521
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 49: and then the debacle yesterday. But Jamar, what are you thinking?

1522
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 49: And then double down about not spitting. Come on, man,

1523
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 49: you have to be better. So disappointing.

1524
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, yep.

1525
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 2: Also disappointing for people to lash out that Fox nineteen

1526
01:19:59,120 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 2: aired it.

1527
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 4: It's prettyed. It's called being a journalist.

1528
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 30: It's the Lord.

1529
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:07,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, I got a novel concept.

1530
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 45: Do you think maybe alcohol and should be up in

1531
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 45: where they could just sit up in the box.

1532
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 25: Maybe you can get a birds out of here of

1533
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 25: how bad this defense is.

1534
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 4: Sure, why not, let's see what happens put them up there.

1535
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 17: Hey it's negative bathroom guy here, I'll take that title.

1536
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 17: That's pretty pretty cool. And to the guy who said it,

1537
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:31,879
Speaker 17: I'm sorry if it, uh my honesty in realistic approach

1538
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 17: about the Bengals hurts your feelings, but it's the truth.

1539
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 5: And this is sports talk radio.

1540
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 4: Bud just ain't a pet route, don't.

1541
01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 17: Want to be a Bengals cheerleader. I'm sure you can

1542
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 17: go down to pay courts and sign up. They're probably

1543
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 17: losing losing cheerleaders after after these performances.

1544
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 4: MHM.

1545
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 50: Disappointing game on Saturday for the Bearcats, but honestly, it's

1546
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 50: one I probably saw it coming. Curious to know what

1547
01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:01,960
Speaker 50: is the Bearcats path to a Big twelve championship now

1548
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:03,800
Speaker 50: that they lost to Arizona.

1549
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 4: Thanks there is that one went out and get some help,

1550
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 4: a lot of help with good tah. Hey, that toasted

1551
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 4: Tony and Austin.

1552
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 9: If Zach Taylor is so shure that he doesn't want

1553
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 9: to make pussonel changes, how about we throw him out

1554
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 9: there to try to tackle Donell Washington M.

1555
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 4: I don't think anyone would want to do that.

1556
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 51: You you or Cincinnati Bearcat's starting lineup at center Moose

1557
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:42,440
Speaker 51: Staffa and Squirrel Staffa job at forward, Kerr your enthusiasm,

1558
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:45,440
Speaker 51: Risa another.

1559
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 52: Forward, bab bab bab bob Boba Miller at guard, Sean

1560
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 52: By the rim and a guard all the do da

1561
01:21:57,320 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 52: day day.

1562
01:21:58,200 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 4: Let's go like that one.

1563
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 53: I gott go, Hey, Tony uh Swordsby forgot that Joe

1564
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 53: Royer is on the team. It's pretty incredible that they

1565
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 53: have a pro tight end who is not getting the ball.

1566
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 2: You're even looked at crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. I don't

1567
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 2: have the answer.

1568
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:20,639
Speaker 54: Zach Winz have got cut off two weeks ago because

1569
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:25,719
Speaker 54: remember these coaches, the defensive coaches, have been successful everywhere

1570
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:27,600
Speaker 54: they've been, but.

1571
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 4: Here, yep, yep.

1572
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 34: Gina Stone's tackling is like Wi Fi on a cheap

1573
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 34: airline when you're connected and you need it most.

1574
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 4: It just sits there, spins, sucks and crafts itself out

1575
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:40,720
Speaker 4: the back.

1576
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 55: Dang Tony Austin's up Bengals stink bearcast football was stinky,

1577
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 55: But I can't wait to listen to the Tony Mo

1578
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 55: Basketball Show because after all, winners go first, right.

1579
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:58,720
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, we're gonna call it a win last night.

1580
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 50: The worst part about the Bengals is they could absolutely

1581
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:04,760
Speaker 50: own this town if they wanted to.

1582
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 4: I mean, they could own it. They have got a solid,

1583
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:12,679
Speaker 4: solid fan base. These people show up, they pay crazy

1584
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 4: ticket prices, and these are working stiffs. You know them

1585
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 4: and I know them.

1586
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 17: They got a cool color scheme, cool helmets they could

1587
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 17: market if they consistently won.

1588
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 4: It's just so frustrating. Tony Austin, it's balling and easy

1589
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 4: and Joel, we're at work.

1590
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 5: We got you guys playing over the loud speech.

1591
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 4: Thank you much.

1592
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 2: Want to call in and say I hate the Steelers,

1593
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 2: I hate Michigan, but I love you guys and everything.

1594
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 5: That's gonna be okay, it's gonna be all right.

1595
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 14: We are all right.

1596
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:45,640
Speaker 4: He said, I hate the Steelers, I love Michigan. What

1597
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 4: he said? He said, I hate the Steelers and I

1598
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 4: hate Michigan. Oh I thought he said he loves Michigan.

1599
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 4: If Ballin is still work working where I think Ballin works.

1600
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 4: I got some beef. I got a package that's supposed

1601
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:58,599
Speaker 4: to have been delivered. It says it's on its way.

1602
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 4: Energy howie here.

1603
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 22: My mom told me, if you got nothing nice to say,

1604
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 22: don't say anything at all.

1605
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:11,880
Speaker 19: I got.

1606
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:16,640
Speaker 56: Thanks, Hey, good job, Hey Joe from Casey here. What

1607
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 56: I was gonna say, it's time to start thinking about

1608
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:22,080
Speaker 56: the draft and look at that. But the more I

1609
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 56: think about it, I don't even really want to look

1610
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:26,760
Speaker 56: at that. I got no confidence that they're gonna do

1611
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 56: what they need to with it. Even though now we're

1612
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:32,599
Speaker 56: gonna have a high pick in the first round, nothing's

1613
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 56: gonna change. Fundamental changes are made inside the building.

1614
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 2: Austin, can you name for me like a mid round,

1615
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 2: like a mid second round, great defensive end that test

1616
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 2: extremely well that you can reach for in the first No,

1617
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 2: I don't know those. That's probably That's probably who you

1618
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 2: got to get acquainted with. Probably some dude from Georgia. Yep, Clemson.

1619
01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 14: Fans. If you're looking for autographs and it, Tony and

1620
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 14: Austin will be some and autographs inside the doors at

1621
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 14: Huddles Cafe from six forty five to seven pm tonight, Monday, Newport, Kentucking.

1622
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 4: Mama styll me, I won't be going to huddles, So

1623
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 4: I can promise you Tony.

1624
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 50: I know you said Joe Blackett was compromised, that he

1625
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 50: was obviously hurt.

1626
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 21: Is that why you think he was?

1627
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:22,679
Speaker 55: It almost looked like he was short arming throws, maybe

1628
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:24,680
Speaker 55: throwing him a little side arm.

1629
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 18: Yeah, not really coming over the top much.

1630
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:28,799
Speaker 8: It was that having to do with the injury.

1631
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 5: What do you think?

1632
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 2: I think so one hundred percent. His accuracy was off.

1633
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 2: I know it was Wendy. He wasn't pushing the ball

1634
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 2: down the field, especially if chances were there. Yes, I

1635
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 2: one think he was compromised. Is compromised?

1636
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:44,600
Speaker 16: Hey, this is Kate Montgomery.

1637
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 23: You know.

1638
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:48,120
Speaker 28: I feel like it's going to be some wastees suffering

1639
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:50,759
Speaker 28: from this season that you know, they're going to finish

1640
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 28: the season with a great draft position to the first round.

1641
01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 28: And as far as we know, the front office hasn't

1642
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:03,560
Speaker 28: added anything it's for a set scout or anything to

1643
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 28: improve their ability to evalue weight and draft.

1644
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 16: So suffering, and I feel like that's what we're headed for.

1645
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 4: I do not want to do mock draft mondays, I don't. Yeah.

1646
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 4: The Sunday Patriots fifty two, Bengals nine. Okay, all right,

1647
01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:25,679
Speaker 4: it's a good one to end on. Take a break,

1648
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 4: fifty two to nine. We only have one segment coming back.

1649
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:31,840
Speaker 4: I'm back for a segment of football now in the Natty.

1650
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 4: Monday Midday Quarterback ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

1651
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:39,640
Speaker 1: The school is in session when the Bengals look to

1652
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 1: take New England to task. Who new history class could

1653
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:47,599
Speaker 1: get this violent? Speaking of the Patriots, I wonder how

1654
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 1: I would look in a powdered weight.

1655
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 5: Probably not good.

1656
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 1: Coverage begins at nine am Sunday, stream for free on

1657
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 1: the new and improved iHeart Radio app or ESPN fifteen thirty.

1658
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 1: The official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

1659
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 10: Is Football in the NATI brought to you in part

1660
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 10: by Bud Light and by Oakley Greens on ESPN fifteen

1661
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:15,680
Speaker 10: point thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

1662
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back, Monday Midday Quarterback, ESPN fifteen thirty,

1663
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Sports Station. A couple quick things here, Austin, how

1664
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 2: about the Mole or the Elder sat X game being

1665
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 2: played at Mason sold out in less than an hour today.

1666
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 2: Why is the game in Mason?

1667
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1668
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 4: Why can't that game be at pay Corps or Knippert Stadium.

1669
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:40,679
Speaker 4: It's it's amazing. There's somebody said there's a rule about

1670
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,639
Speaker 4: it being on a college campus, and that apparently giving

1671
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:47,680
Speaker 4: Cincinnati too much of an advantage the University of Cincinnati,

1672
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:52,720
Speaker 4: which in today's day at age in college sports. Since like,

1673
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 4: why are we now choosing to Yeah, this is what

1674
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 4: we're going to dig in force a rule that really

1675
01:27:57,160 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 4: doesn't matter. Joke, as far as pay Stadium is concerned,

1676
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:03,759
Speaker 4: I don't know why it couldn't be. When the stadium

1677
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 4: first opened twenty years ago, twenty five years ago, they

1678
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 4: did host back to back playoff games there and had

1679
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:10,800
Speaker 4: forty thousand people.

1680
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 5: Yep.

1681
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 29: Uh.

1682
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:14,519
Speaker 4: And you know, especially with Nipper because it's a night game.

1683
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:16,840
Speaker 4: This is you know, one of those things the Bengals

1684
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 4: always talk about, Oh, well, we want to make all

1685
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 4: these changes in advancements to pay Course Stadium, We want

1686
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:24,479
Speaker 4: to host different events. Well here's an example. Here's an

1687
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:25,360
Speaker 4: opportunity to do that.

1688
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:25,720
Speaker 5: Ye.

1689
01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:29,120
Speaker 4: And you know that they would make money off of it.

1690
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:31,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of money off day on Saturday to

1691
01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 2: make sure the field was ready for Sunday.

1692
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 4: And it's not like you're charging these schools. It's not

1693
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 4: like you're charging these local schools to use your facility.

1694
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:41,439
Speaker 4: You're charging the OHSAA. As far as I'm concerned, a

1695
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 4: lot of people at the OHSAA I'm not a big

1696
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:46,479
Speaker 4: fan of, So take them for some of their money.

1697
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:48,720
Speaker 4: There you go, like, I don't understand it. It could

1698
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 4: be a really cool, unique thing, whether it's at n

1699
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 4: Nippert and or excuse me, whether it's at Nippert or

1700
01:28:57,080 --> 01:29:00,880
Speaker 4: at pay Corps and it's it's it's puzzling. There's got

1701
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 4: to be something that I don't understand. Yeah, a couple

1702
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:06,400
Speaker 4: of things to UH to hit on from the NFL

1703
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 4: here before we end the hour. Michael Pennix is expected

1704
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:11,799
Speaker 4: to miss the rest of the season for the Atlanta Falcons.

1705
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 4: They turned back to Kirk Cousins. The Jets are benching

1706
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 4: Justin Fields. Tyrod Taylor is gonna start.

1707
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:17,760
Speaker 22: UH.

1708
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:21,560
Speaker 2: Sources say that Jalen Carter Abdul Carter slept through a

1709
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 2: Giant's workout. Oh boy, not good, you must have been sleepy.

1710
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 2: Keon Coleman was a healthy scratch for missing a meeting.

1711
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 23: UH.

1712
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 2: Lane Johnson has a Liz Frank injury, and Shador Sanders

1713
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 2: made his debut.

1714
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:38,360
Speaker 4: Didn't you use to date her? Not Liz?

1715
01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 2: No, no, no, was it Frank, Yes, Frank Liz uh

1716
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:46,920
Speaker 2: Shador Sanders had a debut.

1717
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:51,680
Speaker 4: For the Yes he did. It was not that dissimilar

1718
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 4: to your NFL debut. If Shador never takes another snap,

1719
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:58,799
Speaker 4: you gotta be you got him beat. You would turnover margin.

1720
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:00,080
Speaker 4: You're already up plus two.

1721
01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 2: Huge Dolphins keep winning. They won in Madrid yesterday. Panthers

1722
01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 2: come from behind to beat the Falcons. Bills in a

1723
01:30:07,240 --> 01:30:10,760
Speaker 2: fun one, knocked off the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Texans and

1724
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 2: a snooze fest beat the Titans sixteen thirteen. Chicago Bears,

1725
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:18,080
Speaker 2: Austin keep finding ways to win. I'm trying to think

1726
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 2: of which team I want to adopt as we move

1727
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 2: towards this second half of the season. I've always been

1728
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 2: big on the Lions. Yeah, so they've got a soft spot.

1729
01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:30,840
Speaker 4: I believe Lions and Chiefs right now outside looking in.

1730
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:37,400
Speaker 4: That's correct when you look at the playoff positions, Kansas

1731
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:41,120
Speaker 4: City was is ninth, Baltimore is tenth, so neither one

1732
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:43,240
Speaker 4: of those two teams are in. And then the NFC

1733
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:46,960
Speaker 4: Detroit is eighth, so they're the first team out. About

1734
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:50,320
Speaker 4: that and the Commanders obviously they can. They continue to

1735
01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:51,760
Speaker 4: get gets worse for them.

1736
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:55,920
Speaker 2: Packers beat the Giants, although that was a good game.

1737
01:30:57,040 --> 01:31:00,959
Speaker 2: Jaguires thirty five to six over the charge Rogers. Jaguars

1738
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:03,320
Speaker 2: punter did not punt all day. Maybe I am right

1739
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 2: about the Jazz.

1740
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 4: Maybe you are right. I can't. Maybe the Jags don't know.

1741
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:10,640
Speaker 2: Sam Darnold's four interceptions allow the Rams to win that one,

1742
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:14,760
Speaker 2: twenty one to nineteen. Niners dominant over the Cardinals forty

1743
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:17,639
Speaker 2: one to twenty two. Big day for Christian McCaffrey. Ravens

1744
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:19,080
Speaker 2: beat the Browns twenty three to sixteen.

1745
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:22,000
Speaker 4: Mans. He had an NFL record set in this game.

1746
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:26,799
Speaker 4: In the Cardinals Niners game. What's up? Jacoby Brissett forty

1747
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:28,160
Speaker 4: seven completions?

1748
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 19: Man?

1749
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:31,360
Speaker 4: Did you see his total stat line? Forty seven for

1750
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:35,000
Speaker 4: fifty seven four hundred and fifty two yards. Insane. Through

1751
01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 4: fifty seven passes, only ten were incomplete. Yeah, two touchdowns,

1752
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 4: two interceptions.

1753
01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 2: Michael Wilson had fifteen catches for a buck eighty five.

1754
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:43,760
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1755
01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 4: Absolutely bonkers, fun game. Bonkers Brock Perdy coming off the

1756
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:51,639
Speaker 4: turf toe, Yeah, how about Brock nineteen to twenty six

1757
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:53,600
Speaker 4: two hund doh three Tugs.

1758
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:58,320
Speaker 2: Broncos beat the Chiefs in Denver, winning their eighth straight,

1759
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:03,400
Speaker 2: and the Eagles slow down that Lions offense Night sixteen

1760
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:09,799
Speaker 2: to nine, Last Night, Monday Night Football Tonight, Cowboys Raiders,

1761
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:13,120
Speaker 2: Logan Wilson gonna be all over the play Wilson Game

1762
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:15,479
Speaker 2: thirteen tackles tonight.

1763
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:17,560
Speaker 4: Book it. I kind of want to bet him to

1764
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:20,400
Speaker 4: get an interception number one because it's Geno Smith, right,

1765
01:32:20,479 --> 01:32:23,880
Speaker 4: is he playing? Yeah? And I don't mean to hop

1766
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:26,240
Speaker 4: onto the Raiders because I have a couple of Raider

1767
01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:28,000
Speaker 4: fans that listen to this show, and I don't like

1768
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:30,600
Speaker 4: it when I talk ill of the Raiders. Unfortunately, the

1769
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:33,840
Speaker 4: Raiders stink. Yeah. I hope they win tonight, but I

1770
01:32:33,880 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 4: hope Logan Wilson goes crazy. What are you got coming

1771
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 4: up in the third hour, Zach Taylor? Oh yeah, down,

1772
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:46,840
Speaker 4: Zach Taylor. Donne done du There's a list of things

1773
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:50,960
Speaker 4: that have happened this year that really are directly correlated

1774
01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:57,200
Speaker 4: with him. It's true. It's over Johnny uh oh uh oh.

1775
01:32:57,880 --> 01:32:59,960
Speaker 4: That comes up next. By the way, our talk back

1776
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:02,360
Speaker 4: or a caller earlier said, I need to double check

1777
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:04,320
Speaker 4: the Browns and the Ravens. I did double check it.

1778
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:08,479
Speaker 4: He's right. Baltimore by Mike Count has thirty five people

1779
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:12,400
Speaker 4: in their player personnel department. Cleveland by Mike Count has

1780
01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:15,160
Speaker 4: thirty one. Okay, so it's still pretty close. Also through

1781
01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:19,320
Speaker 4: out there. Yesterday UC Louisville Xavier plays George. On Friday,

1782
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:24,200
Speaker 4: UCBYU Saturday Bengals Patriots, Sunday, FC Cincinnati versus Messy Sunday Night.

1783
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:28,120
Speaker 4: Asked how many wins for the local ball clubs. Forty

1784
01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:32,400
Speaker 4: five percent say one, thirty three percent say zero. I

1785
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 4: would imagine most of those people think it's FC Cincinnati.

1786
01:33:36,240 --> 01:33:36,599
Speaker 5: Correct.

1787
01:33:37,439 --> 01:33:39,720
Speaker 2: Austin's got the rest of the way here. I'm with

1788
01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:42,439
Speaker 2: Mowagger and Florence At twenty weeks from three to six

1789
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:44,840
Speaker 2: on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

1790
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1791
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Speaker 4: Hi, Hello, and welcome in. This is our three of

1802
01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:46,640
Speaker 4: Tony Pike's Monday midday Quarterback on ESPN fifteen thirty. My

1803
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 4: name is not Tony Pike, my name is Austin Elmore.

1804
01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:53,920
Speaker 4: Tony and Mo Football show coming up this afternoon from

1805
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:56,879
Speaker 4: three to six Here on ESPN fifteen thirty. Will reconnect

1806
01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 4: with Toni and Mo about forty minutes from right now

1807
01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 4: for a preview of their show and get some of

1808
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:07,519
Speaker 4: their thoughts from yesterday and the weekend as well. Phone

1809
01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:10,799
Speaker 4: lines are open five point three seven four nine, fifteen thirty.

1810
01:35:11,200 --> 01:35:13,200
Speaker 4: We'll get to the phone lines in just a minute.

1811
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:16,040
Speaker 4: But I want to say this before I get into

1812
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:19,200
Speaker 4: the whole Zach Taylor thing. We didn't spend a ton

1813
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:21,599
Speaker 4: of time on it today. I'm a little bit surprised

1814
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:25,120
Speaker 4: we didn't. But Jamar Chase spit on Jalen Ramsey and

1815
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 4: lied about it. That doesn't sit well with me as

1816
01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 4: a Bengals fan. That doesn't sit well with me as

1817
01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:36,200
Speaker 4: a Jamar Chase fan. That doesn't sit well with me

1818
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:39,800
Speaker 4: when I think about the place that this organization as

1819
01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:44,240
Speaker 4: a whole is in right now. Number One, it's vile.

1820
01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:49,880
Speaker 4: It's disgusting, It's disrespectful to treat someone like that, that

1821
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:53,360
Speaker 4: is over the line in every way, shape and form.

1822
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:55,760
Speaker 4: I think it is one of the worst things you

1823
01:35:55,920 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 4: can do to someone is to spit on them. Doesn't matter.

1824
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:03,920
Speaker 4: If you spit on their hand, on their chest, at

1825
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:07,160
Speaker 4: their face mask, doesn't matter. Even if you spit at

1826
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:12,320
Speaker 4: their feet, does not matter. That is unacceptable from a

1827
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:14,760
Speaker 4: guy who is supposed to be a leader on this team,

1828
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:19,080
Speaker 4: from a guy who is making millions and millions and

1829
01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:22,400
Speaker 4: millions of dollars. I don't care what Jalen Ramsey said.

1830
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:24,600
Speaker 4: I don't care if he took a late hit at you.

1831
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:29,840
Speaker 4: I don't care at all. I would much rather you

1832
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 4: go like aj Green did, absolutely crazy and try to

1833
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:36,800
Speaker 4: beat the hell out of him, then spit on the

1834
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:41,759
Speaker 4: guy that I think is lame. I think it's especially

1835
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:45,040
Speaker 4: lame that Jamar Chase lied about it to the media

1836
01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:49,000
Speaker 4: multiple times, has doubled down on the thought that he

1837
01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:52,800
Speaker 4: didn't do it, and there is video proof that he did.

1838
01:36:54,439 --> 01:36:56,240
Speaker 4: And I want to give a shout out and thank

1839
01:36:56,360 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 4: you to Austin Brisky from Fox nineteen who had the

1840
01:37:01,200 --> 01:37:04,360
Speaker 4: guts to post that video. That's what you're supposed to do.

1841
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:10,560
Speaker 4: That's journalism. You seek and search for the truth and

1842
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:12,840
Speaker 4: it was found through that piece of video and I'm

1843
01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:15,519
Speaker 4: glad he posted it. And if you're a Bengals fan,

1844
01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:18,719
Speaker 4: that is all now on Austin's case because he posted

1845
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:19,280
Speaker 4: that video.

1846
01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:20,559
Speaker 3: Shame on you.

1847
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:26,240
Speaker 4: Be better than that, and Jamar Chase should be better

1848
01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:31,160
Speaker 4: than that. This is a face of the franchise and

1849
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:35,080
Speaker 4: he's spitting on dudes in an NFL game and lying

1850
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:35,479
Speaker 4: about it.

1851
01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:36,960
Speaker 26: Now.

1852
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:39,599
Speaker 4: Jamar has had his moments in the past. He's had

1853
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:43,840
Speaker 4: unsportsmanlike conducts. You might remember last year Week two he

1854
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:48,280
Speaker 4: went crazy at an official in Kansas City. He has

1855
01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:52,160
Speaker 4: had those moments in the past. But I've always thought

1856
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:57,720
Speaker 4: Jamar is a thoughtful, smart, insightful and honest guy. And

1857
01:37:57,800 --> 01:37:59,519
Speaker 4: I think a lot of the times when he meets

1858
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:05,200
Speaker 4: with the media that comes through. Didn't come through this Sunday,

1859
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:09,960
Speaker 4: and I, as a Bengals fan, am embarrassed. And I

1860
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:14,799
Speaker 4: would assume and I hope that the Bengals teammates, everybody

1861
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:17,760
Speaker 4: in that organization is embarrassed by the way their star

1862
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:23,120
Speaker 4: player carried himself in that moment in that game. And

1863
01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:26,240
Speaker 4: they're lucky as hell that had didn't end up costing

1864
01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:29,679
Speaker 4: them in the game. But it is going to cost

1865
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:33,440
Speaker 4: him this week because I'm sure Jamar is gonna get suspended.

1866
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:37,920
Speaker 4: You might remember Week one, Cowboys Eagles, right after the

1867
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 4: opening kickoff, Jalen Carter spit in the face of the

1868
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:45,960
Speaker 4: Cowboy opponent, spit at him. He was He was thrown

1869
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:49,519
Speaker 4: out of the game right away. The NFL deemed it

1870
01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:52,439
Speaker 4: worthy of a one game suspension and considered it time

1871
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:55,599
Speaker 4: served since the clock had not yet run on the game.

1872
01:38:56,760 --> 01:39:00,439
Speaker 4: I would expect that Jamar Chase is going to get

1873
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 4: the same treatment, and it's not because this is just

1874
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:06,599
Speaker 4: a one off of things that have happened. Jay Morrison

1875
01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:10,160
Speaker 4: points out that since twenty twenty one, Jamar Chase has

1876
01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:16,679
Speaker 4: received four fines totaling ninety one thousand dollars for unsportsmanlike conduct.

1877
01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 4: Infractions ranging from taunting to obscene gestures and that verbal

1878
01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:27,200
Speaker 4: abuse of an official in Kansas City. I like Jamar Chase.

1879
01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:32,040
Speaker 4: I'm a fan of Jamar Chase. Him doing this, that's

1880
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:36,120
Speaker 4: a major issue, and I hope that the Bengals handle

1881
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:39,479
Speaker 4: it themselves as well, because that's not what you're supposed

1882
01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:44,000
Speaker 4: to be all about, and I unfortunately feel like it

1883
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 4: is a reflection of the bigger picture of where this

1884
01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:50,759
Speaker 4: organization is at right now. You know why Zach Taylor

1885
01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:53,880
Speaker 4: only spoke for four minutes after the game because he's

1886
01:39:53,960 --> 01:39:58,880
Speaker 4: out of things to say. He feels I feel like

1887
01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:03,559
Speaker 4: Zach gives losing control of this team, He's losing control

1888
01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:06,400
Speaker 4: of the locker room. Let's just let's do it. Let's

1889
01:40:06,439 --> 01:40:08,200
Speaker 4: go through the list of just some of the crap

1890
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:13,479
Speaker 4: that's happened already this year. First of all, go back

1891
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:17,160
Speaker 4: to mini camp before we even get to training camp,

1892
01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:21,400
Speaker 4: and the organization is in another standoff with Trey Hendrickson,

1893
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:25,360
Speaker 4: and I get that that's not Zach Taylor's fault, But

1894
01:40:25,479 --> 01:40:28,600
Speaker 4: Trey Hendrickson shows up and is allowed to make a

1895
01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:33,040
Speaker 4: complete side show and distraction of a mini camp practice

1896
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:36,280
Speaker 4: and gets free reign to say whatever he wants and

1897
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:39,559
Speaker 4: holds court with the media and in the meantime throws

1898
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:45,519
Speaker 4: Zach Taylor under the bus based off the text messages

1899
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:48,680
Speaker 4: between he and Zach. This was the first sign this

1900
01:40:48,840 --> 01:40:56,040
Speaker 4: season of a coach losing control. Training camp rolls around,

1901
01:40:56,520 --> 01:41:01,320
Speaker 4: same thing happens, Trey Hendrickson not there, Zach Taylor doesn't

1902
01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:09,360
Speaker 4: seem to be having any of it under control. Think

1903
01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:13,960
Speaker 4: of the multiple times throughout this season where he has

1904
01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:19,880
Speaker 4: been completely ill prepared for the moment with the clock,

1905
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:22,760
Speaker 4: with the management, with the situation. It's almost like he

1906
01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:28,800
Speaker 4: zones out and forgets time, score situation. You need to

1907
01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:31,000
Speaker 4: be able to know those things as a head coach.

1908
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:35,320
Speaker 4: Multiple times they've run an offense that is just draining

1909
01:41:35,439 --> 01:41:40,000
Speaker 4: the clock as opposed to moving as quickly as possible

1910
01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:43,240
Speaker 4: because you're down two scores and you need to get

1911
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:47,960
Speaker 4: the ball as many times as possible. Unacceptable. How about

1912
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:50,160
Speaker 4: the play just a couple of weeks ago where he

1913
01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:51,920
Speaker 4: doesn't know what he wants to do on a fourth

1914
01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:55,840
Speaker 4: down and instead runs the kicking unit out there. They

1915
01:41:55,880 --> 01:41:58,400
Speaker 4: don't have time to switch to the k ball, and

1916
01:41:58,520 --> 01:42:01,400
Speaker 4: Evan McPherson is forced to kick a quarterback ball that

1917
01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:05,400
Speaker 4: doesn't go through the uprights. That was Zach Taylor's fault.

1918
01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:11,920
Speaker 4: How about this past weekend, Trey Henderson, supposed to be

1919
01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:14,920
Speaker 4: a team captain nowhere to be found. Was he on

1920
01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:18,720
Speaker 4: the sidelines? I didn't see him. Yeah, he's hurt, but

1921
01:42:21,439 --> 01:42:23,680
Speaker 4: I've seen other team captains in the past that are

1922
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:26,759
Speaker 4: hurt to travel with the team. A little bit confused

1923
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:30,240
Speaker 4: by that, Really confused by Zach and Trey's entire relationship

1924
01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:32,880
Speaker 4: between two guys that are supposed to be the face

1925
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:35,559
Speaker 4: of the franchise and Trey in and of himself as

1926
01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:38,880
Speaker 4: his whole other thing. How about scapegoating lou Ana Arrumo.

1927
01:42:40,160 --> 01:42:43,040
Speaker 4: How about being the guy that moved on from lou

1928
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:47,280
Speaker 4: who's having a great season in Indianapolis. How about the

1929
01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:49,960
Speaker 4: defense laughing in the face of the media when they're

1930
01:42:49,960 --> 01:42:53,519
Speaker 4: supposed to talk after a game and not taking it seriously,

1931
01:42:53,640 --> 01:42:58,360
Speaker 4: and then your star running back says they got to

1932
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:01,200
Speaker 4: be better, holds them a little bit accountable in the media,

1933
01:43:01,479 --> 01:43:04,400
Speaker 4: and Zach Taylor immediately jumps on him and scolds him

1934
01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:08,639
Speaker 4: for doing that. How about trade requests from Logan Wilson

1935
01:43:08,680 --> 01:43:13,760
Speaker 4: and McKinley Jackson. Now is that entirely Zach Taylor's fault. No,

1936
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:17,040
Speaker 4: but part of the reason it's happening is because of

1937
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:21,000
Speaker 4: the plan that is being implemented by Zach Taylor and

1938
01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:23,320
Speaker 4: his coaching staff. When it comes to the young players,

1939
01:43:24,200 --> 01:43:26,800
Speaker 4: young guys get the first shot. Well, McKinley Jackson's a

1940
01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:28,680
Speaker 4: young guy. He's not getting a first shot, so he

1941
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:32,240
Speaker 4: asks for a trade. Logan Wilson says, I'm not doing this.

1942
01:43:33,080 --> 01:43:40,640
Speaker 4: He asks for a trade. Whether it's clock management, situational malfunctions,

1943
01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:45,759
Speaker 4: coaching hires that if not worked out, how he's handled

1944
01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:50,479
Speaker 4: the media, whatever it is. It just feels like we've

1945
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:54,360
Speaker 4: reached the point of no return for Zach Taylor. And

1946
01:43:56,160 --> 01:43:59,160
Speaker 4: I know that in that twenty nineteen season when it

1947
01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:05,120
Speaker 4: was ugly, ugly, ugly, the Bengals thought about moving on

1948
01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:07,920
Speaker 4: from Zach, but they stayed with him. They gave him

1949
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:11,799
Speaker 4: a chance. They lucked into Joe Burrow. They found themselves

1950
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:14,720
Speaker 4: in the Super Bowl a couple of years later. All

1951
01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:17,439
Speaker 4: the equity that has been built up from twenty one

1952
01:44:17,520 --> 01:44:22,200
Speaker 4: to twenty two, though, is gone. You've missed the playoffs

1953
01:44:22,280 --> 01:44:24,280
Speaker 4: and this is gonna be the third year in a row.

1954
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:28,599
Speaker 4: This is gonna be three of the six years under

1955
01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:33,200
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow, that you've missed the playoffs. There has to

1956
01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:37,840
Speaker 4: be a higher standard than that. And let's be honest,

1957
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:44,320
Speaker 4: Zach Taylor is not the biggest issue. The biggest issue

1958
01:44:44,479 --> 01:44:48,840
Speaker 4: is that the organization has too much faith in the

1959
01:44:48,920 --> 01:44:53,040
Speaker 4: wrong people, in the wrong processes. They are flawed in

1960
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:55,760
Speaker 4: what they try to do to build a team into

1961
01:44:55,880 --> 01:45:01,000
Speaker 4: a championship contender. There have been things that were There

1962
01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:03,439
Speaker 4: have been things they've been good at. There have been

1963
01:45:03,520 --> 01:45:06,840
Speaker 4: pivots that I approved of and a fan of. There

1964
01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:09,360
Speaker 4: have been other decisions that leave you scratching your head

1965
01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:14,320
Speaker 4: and wondering do they know what they are doing. I've

1966
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:17,160
Speaker 4: asked the question before. Are the Bengals cheap or are

1967
01:45:17,200 --> 01:45:19,719
Speaker 4: they incompetent? And I don't know which one is worse.

1968
01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:26,120
Speaker 4: They are in a situation right now where you have

1969
01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:29,519
Speaker 4: to decide what is the future of this franchise going

1970
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:35,439
Speaker 4: to be. Is it gonna be a soft reset with

1971
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:38,560
Speaker 4: Zach Taylor, like we saw with Marvin Lewis after the

1972
01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:42,640
Speaker 4: two thousand and eight season, or is it gonna be

1973
01:45:43,120 --> 01:45:45,920
Speaker 4: clean house. We've only got four or five years left

1974
01:45:46,000 --> 01:45:47,559
Speaker 4: with Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase.

1975
01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:48,120
Speaker 3: And t Higgins.

1976
01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:50,160
Speaker 4: We've got to find a way to do this now.

1977
01:45:52,640 --> 01:45:55,760
Speaker 4: I also look at this crop of potential NFL head

1978
01:45:55,840 --> 01:46:01,760
Speaker 4: coaches and none of them really excite me. But is

1979
01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:04,960
Speaker 4: it better to move on from Zach Taylor now because

1980
01:46:05,000 --> 01:46:07,640
Speaker 4: he's the easiest one to move on from, might have

1981
01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:10,920
Speaker 4: the biggest direct impact on what happens to the players

1982
01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:15,280
Speaker 4: on the field, and give yourself a new window to

1983
01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:16,840
Speaker 4: try to open up with Joe Burrow.

1984
01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:17,400
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1985
01:46:18,240 --> 01:46:20,599
Speaker 4: I don't know the answers. I don't think the Bengals

1986
01:46:20,680 --> 01:46:28,400
Speaker 4: know the answers. But Sunday's game was just another game

1987
01:46:28,520 --> 01:46:31,400
Speaker 4: that felt the exact same as all the others. In

1988
01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:36,040
Speaker 4: the biggest moment, your defense can't get a stop. You're

1989
01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:38,280
Speaker 4: relying on a forty year old quarterback who started to

1990
01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:40,880
Speaker 4: look like a forty year old quarterback who was definitely hurt.

1991
01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:46,800
Speaker 4: You're lucky because your wide receiver lost as cool in

1992
01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:49,840
Speaker 4: a moment and is now going to be suspended. But

1993
01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:54,120
Speaker 4: in that moment, you were lucky. You got bailed out

1994
01:46:54,160 --> 01:46:58,200
Speaker 4: by the Jalen Ramsey thing. To begin with, It's just

1995
01:46:58,280 --> 01:47:00,960
Speaker 4: a comedy of errors. The young play look like they've

1996
01:47:01,200 --> 01:47:09,920
Speaker 4: never ever ever played football before, embarrassing. There have just

1997
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:13,800
Speaker 4: been these little trinkets and little things that make you

1998
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:18,799
Speaker 4: wonder about the direction of this team under Zach Taylor.

1999
01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:24,439
Speaker 4: And if it's run its course, it's okay. If it

2000
01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:28,639
Speaker 4: has you tried like hell, you had some success. Now

2001
01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:31,880
Speaker 4: let's move on, and let's not set the franchise back

2002
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:38,680
Speaker 4: years and years and years in doing so. That's my

2003
01:47:38,760 --> 01:47:44,479
Speaker 4: biggest issue. I don't know if they know where they're at,

2004
01:47:45,200 --> 01:47:47,519
Speaker 4: or what they want to do, or how they want

2005
01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:51,479
Speaker 4: to get there. And I've said, and I posted this

2006
01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:55,559
Speaker 4: on Twitter at audio More, I don't think Zach Taylor

2007
01:47:55,600 --> 01:47:58,479
Speaker 4: will get fired just because I know how Mike Brown

2008
01:47:58,560 --> 01:48:03,240
Speaker 4: thinks and operates. He's a patient man. I think he

2009
01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:07,320
Speaker 4: is stubborn about what he believes and stubborn about his processes,

2010
01:48:08,200 --> 01:48:10,840
Speaker 4: and I believe that he sees the good in ZACT Taylor,

2011
01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:13,160
Speaker 4: and I do think there is some good Inzact Taylor.

2012
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:18,000
Speaker 4: But I don't know if the current plan as executed

2013
01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:21,880
Speaker 4: and carried out by Duke Tobin in Zach Taylor has worked,

2014
01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:25,880
Speaker 4: and I don't know that it can turn around quickly.

2015
01:48:27,800 --> 01:48:28,000
Speaker 3: Now.

2016
01:48:28,360 --> 01:48:33,840
Speaker 4: I look at the basic fundamentals of the organization and

2017
01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:36,880
Speaker 4: look at the amount of cap space that they have

2018
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:40,599
Speaker 4: next year in the year after that, and I look

2019
01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:42,760
Speaker 4: at the core of the team and I think, Okay,

2020
01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:45,720
Speaker 4: it can get turned around sooner rather than later. But

2021
01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:50,920
Speaker 4: I would rather see somebody else at the helm because

2022
01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:53,760
Speaker 4: we've now gone three years in a row where it

2023
01:48:53,920 --> 01:49:00,640
Speaker 4: hasn't worked, and so in that situation, you got to

2024
01:49:00,680 --> 01:49:04,920
Speaker 4: really start reevaluating. And as we talked earlier, there's seven

2025
01:49:05,000 --> 01:49:09,720
Speaker 4: games left. Patriots come in here at nine and two

2026
01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:13,040
Speaker 4: and they're gonna whoop your ass at home, and I

2027
01:49:13,080 --> 01:49:16,400
Speaker 4: don't know if there's gonna be any fans there. Then

2028
01:49:16,520 --> 01:49:20,680
Speaker 4: you go on national television on Thursday night, Thanksgiving Night,

2029
01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:26,560
Speaker 4: in a place that's been a house of horrors for

2030
01:49:26,640 --> 01:49:30,400
Speaker 4: you in the past, and whether or not Burrow is there,

2031
01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:34,680
Speaker 4: your defense is going to be nationally exposed to you

2032
01:49:35,040 --> 01:49:41,160
Speaker 4: to a national audience again, which it already has multiple

2033
01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:46,120
Speaker 4: times this season, and you'll become the laughing stock of Thanksgiving.

2034
01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:50,360
Speaker 4: Oh and then, by the way, you're in the national

2035
01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:55,200
Speaker 4: window the next week against the Buffalo Bills. Good luck

2036
01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:58,920
Speaker 4: with that. They scored forty this week against one of

2037
01:49:58,960 --> 01:50:02,439
Speaker 4: the better defenses in the NFL. Then you're right back

2038
01:50:02,479 --> 01:50:04,680
Speaker 4: home against Baltimore in a game nobody will be here

2039
01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:09,479
Speaker 4: for your schedule to be on national TV. Against Miami,

2040
01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:11,200
Speaker 4: you're gonna be so bad you're gonna be flexed out

2041
01:50:11,240 --> 01:50:13,640
Speaker 4: of that. And oh, by the way, they've turned their

2042
01:50:13,720 --> 01:50:18,240
Speaker 4: season around. Arizona, as we just mentioned, just through for

2043
01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:21,200
Speaker 4: five hundred yards and set an NFL record and completions

2044
01:50:21,960 --> 01:50:25,840
Speaker 4: against the San Francisco forty nine ers. And then you

2045
01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:30,360
Speaker 4: have Cleveland who would love nothing more than to embarrass

2046
01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:35,839
Speaker 4: you on the way out the door. We are teetering

2047
01:50:35,960 --> 01:50:42,360
Speaker 4: right now, we're teetering. This game against the Patriots is

2048
01:50:42,439 --> 01:50:48,160
Speaker 4: going to decide does this thing completely unravel or are

2049
01:50:48,200 --> 01:50:51,960
Speaker 4: they gonna have any any sort of anything to build

2050
01:50:52,040 --> 01:50:56,400
Speaker 4: off of going into next year. The season's been over

2051
01:50:56,520 --> 01:50:59,800
Speaker 4: for over a month now, but like now, you start

2052
01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:03,400
Speaker 4: to see where are the cracks in the foundation? Where

2053
01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:07,360
Speaker 4: are the issues cropping up? Zach Taylor having a four

2054
01:51:07,439 --> 01:51:12,880
Speaker 4: minute postgame press conference. That's one that's one you stick

2055
01:51:13,280 --> 01:51:16,200
Speaker 4: a pin in. You think, oh, come back to that one.

2056
01:51:17,800 --> 01:51:20,080
Speaker 4: Jamar Chase spitting on a guy and lying about it

2057
01:51:20,120 --> 01:51:22,920
Speaker 4: and then getting suspended. Stick a pin in that one.

2058
01:51:23,000 --> 01:51:27,439
Speaker 4: That's one of the foundational cracks. Team captain leader Logan

2059
01:51:27,479 --> 01:51:30,800
Speaker 4: Wilson asking for a trade stick A pin in that

2060
01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:34,640
Speaker 4: one that's one of the cracks. Where are the other

2061
01:51:34,680 --> 01:51:38,000
Speaker 4: one's going to be? Where else is it going to

2062
01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:41,519
Speaker 4: show up? Seven games left is a lot of time,

2063
01:51:42,439 --> 01:51:45,320
Speaker 4: and if this thing gets to a point of complete

2064
01:51:45,439 --> 01:51:49,040
Speaker 4: and total embarrassment, Mike Brown might not have a choice.

2065
01:51:49,280 --> 01:51:53,400
Speaker 4: But the fire Zach Taylor, your phone calls are next.

2066
01:51:53,479 --> 01:51:55,519
Speaker 4: This is ESPN fifteen thirty.

2067
01:51:55,840 --> 01:51:56,960
Speaker 3: What's up? It's Mo Wagger.

2068
01:51:57,120 --> 01:51:59,439
Speaker 9: Join us on the Tony and Mo Football Show today

2069
01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:04,719
Speaker 9: weeks in Florence as we discuss a lost Cincinnati football weekend.

2070
01:52:05,080 --> 01:52:08,040
Speaker 9: Beginning at three ZHO five this afternoon on ESPN fifteen thirty,

2071
01:52:08,200 --> 01:52:09,360
Speaker 9: Cincinnati Sports Station.

2072
01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:11,479
Speaker 4: More than a few more paid troopers, Sir.

2073
01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:15,400
Speaker 1: School is in session when the Bengals look to take

2074
01:52:15,520 --> 01:52:19,200
Speaker 1: New England to task. Who new history class could get

2075
01:52:19,400 --> 01:52:23,240
Speaker 1: this violent? Speaking of the Patriots, I wonder how I

2076
01:52:23,360 --> 01:52:24,920
Speaker 1: would look in a powdered wig.

2077
01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:26,599
Speaker 5: Probably not good.

2078
01:52:26,880 --> 01:52:30,680
Speaker 1: Coverage begins at nine am Sunday, stream for free on

2079
01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:35,240
Speaker 1: the new and improved iHeartRadio app or ESPN fifteen thirty,

2080
01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:38,639
Speaker 1: the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

2081
01:52:41,520 --> 01:52:45,960
Speaker 4: Welcome back in Tony Pike's Monday midday quarterback ESPN fifteen thirty.

2082
01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:49,200
Speaker 4: I'm Austin Elmore. Phone lines open five one three seven

2083
01:52:49,360 --> 01:52:53,360
Speaker 4: four nine, fifteen thirty. We could use a little sunshine

2084
01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:59,519
Speaker 4: on a cloudy not victory Monday, when I don't know

2085
01:52:59,600 --> 01:53:04,719
Speaker 4: that there will be another victory Monday. That's a difficult

2086
01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:08,160
Speaker 4: reality to deal with. By the way, Bengals players reporting

2087
01:53:08,200 --> 01:53:10,840
Speaker 4: to pay Course Stadium right now. Jay Morrison said that

2088
01:53:11,479 --> 01:53:16,240
Speaker 4: Jamar Chase declined comment while walking through the locker room

2089
01:53:17,240 --> 01:53:21,600
Speaker 4: just now, so uh locker room obviously opened for a

2090
01:53:21,640 --> 01:53:25,720
Speaker 4: little bit right now. Then Zach Taylor will talk this afternoon,

2091
01:53:26,479 --> 01:53:29,960
Speaker 4: and as Adam Schefter reported earlier, today, is expected the

2092
01:53:30,080 --> 01:53:35,160
Speaker 4: NFL will have a ruling on the uh Jamar Chase

2093
01:53:35,200 --> 01:53:39,680
Speaker 4: spitting incident today. Not sure when that will be, but

2094
01:53:40,479 --> 01:53:43,479
Speaker 4: that is expected today. Let's go to the phones. Five

2095
01:53:43,479 --> 01:53:46,320
Speaker 4: point three seven nine, fifteen thirty. Let's go to College Hill.

2096
01:53:46,439 --> 01:53:47,800
Speaker 4: Talk to Brian. Brian, what do you.

2097
01:53:47,840 --> 01:53:54,160
Speaker 18: Got, hey, Austin man good job today, man. Hey, So

2098
01:53:54,360 --> 01:53:56,639
Speaker 18: I talked to you guys last week, right and I said,

2099
01:53:56,760 --> 01:54:00,759
Speaker 18: like the Bengals were soft. Uh, you know, Geno Stone

2100
01:54:00,760 --> 01:54:05,120
Speaker 18: shouldn't be on the NFL team But my question is

2101
01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:09,240
Speaker 18: do you think that I don't know who the strength

2102
01:54:09,320 --> 01:54:13,720
Speaker 18: and conditioning coaches are with the Bengals are how that works, Like,

2103
01:54:13,960 --> 01:54:16,840
Speaker 18: especially if you're like a veteran, do you do it

2104
01:54:16,920 --> 01:54:19,280
Speaker 18: on your own or do you have to do a

2105
01:54:19,479 --> 01:54:22,960
Speaker 18: certain amount of things or you know, accomplished a certain amount.

2106
01:54:22,720 --> 01:54:24,599
Speaker 5: Of things off the field.

2107
01:54:24,600 --> 01:54:28,040
Speaker 18: Because I'm looking at the Ohio State game and I

2108
01:54:28,160 --> 01:54:30,679
Speaker 18: know these kids are like eighteen to twenty years old

2109
01:54:30,760 --> 01:54:35,839
Speaker 18: or whatever, but these dudes look physically fit the Bengals.

2110
01:54:35,920 --> 01:54:41,000
Speaker 18: If you look at their defensive backfield, who.

2111
01:54:40,680 --> 01:54:42,920
Speaker 25: Scares you as far as is hitting somebody?

2112
01:54:43,240 --> 01:54:49,520
Speaker 18: Like there's nobody there that that brings any physicality to

2113
01:54:49,760 --> 01:54:53,440
Speaker 18: that position. Like the safety is the person that's supposed

2114
01:54:53,480 --> 01:54:57,040
Speaker 18: to be coming up and nailing people. I don't understand

2115
01:54:57,360 --> 01:54:59,960
Speaker 18: that displayed that Geno Stone had. And then there were

2116
01:55:00,160 --> 01:55:02,240
Speaker 18: one like I said, I told you guys in the

2117
01:55:02,320 --> 01:55:06,400
Speaker 18: Package game with Cam Taylor Britt basically stopping and dipping

2118
01:55:06,480 --> 01:55:10,120
Speaker 18: his head and there is no there's no want to,

2119
01:55:10,440 --> 01:55:16,520
Speaker 18: there is no physicality. These guys are collecting paychecks, that's

2120
01:55:16,600 --> 01:55:17,240
Speaker 18: what they're doing.

2121
01:55:18,200 --> 01:55:18,360
Speaker 3: You know.

2122
01:55:18,520 --> 01:55:21,240
Speaker 18: I listened to TJ. Mischman Zada and he I mean

2123
01:55:21,320 --> 01:55:24,400
Speaker 18: he just he just went the heck off because he's like,

2124
01:55:25,080 --> 01:55:28,440
Speaker 18: these dudes are they're collecting checks And he said, I

2125
01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:31,800
Speaker 18: have first hand knowledge of dudes out in the.

2126
01:55:31,880 --> 01:55:34,400
Speaker 5: Street the night before the games.

2127
01:55:34,400 --> 01:55:37,160
Speaker 18: And I told you I saw on Cam Taylor britt

2128
01:55:37,200 --> 01:55:39,600
Speaker 18: downtown party in the night before the game, like with

2129
01:55:39,760 --> 01:55:43,400
Speaker 18: these girls taking pictures. And he ain't big at all.

2130
01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:47,640
Speaker 18: I mean, do these guys work out? Like, what is

2131
01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:54,480
Speaker 18: the workout agreement or is there one during during a season?

2132
01:55:54,640 --> 01:55:58,320
Speaker 4: Y for the phone call, it's it's it's yes, there is.

2133
01:55:58,600 --> 01:55:59,080
Speaker 26: There is a.

2134
01:56:00,560 --> 01:56:03,560
Speaker 4: A coach and a staff and these dudes work out,

2135
01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:07,120
Speaker 4: and yes, it's all in place. Joey Bose is the

2136
01:56:07,120 --> 01:56:10,400
Speaker 4: Bengals like director of player Performance, strength and Conditioning. He's

2137
01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:14,680
Speaker 4: highly respected, really good at what he does, especially respected

2138
01:56:14,760 --> 01:56:17,520
Speaker 4: within the building. It is a little bit different than

2139
01:56:17,560 --> 01:56:20,400
Speaker 4: college because college has a lot more rules, are a

2140
01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:22,360
Speaker 4: lot less rules, and you get a lot more time

2141
01:56:22,440 --> 01:56:27,080
Speaker 4: with those guys and in the off season. In the NFL,

2142
01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:29,760
Speaker 4: it is a lot on those guys to be able

2143
01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:32,280
Speaker 4: to do their own thing, get with their own program,

2144
01:56:32,360 --> 01:56:34,880
Speaker 4: their own gym, and all of that. In season, it's

2145
01:56:35,280 --> 01:56:38,960
Speaker 4: very specific to you know each player and what they're

2146
01:56:39,000 --> 01:56:41,120
Speaker 4: going through in the demands of their body. Blah blah blah,

2147
01:56:41,120 --> 01:56:44,640
Speaker 4: blah blah. The idea that they don't work hard, I

2148
01:56:44,720 --> 01:56:48,040
Speaker 4: don't agree with that. Like, I've not seen anything that

2149
01:56:48,200 --> 01:56:51,920
Speaker 4: makes me think they aren't trying. They aren't working hard,

2150
01:56:52,320 --> 01:56:55,040
Speaker 4: they aren't putting forth the effort. The effort is not

2151
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Speaker 4: the question, which is a I think a positive reflection

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01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:01,640
Speaker 4: on Zach Taylor outside of Geno Stone, because his effort

2153
01:57:01,720 --> 01:57:05,320
Speaker 4: is clearly bad, but the effort hasn't really been questioned.

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01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:08,960
Speaker 4: The execution has, and that's a major issue. And we've

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01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:14,600
Speaker 4: also seen a guy like Shamar Stewart unbelievable physical specimen,

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01:57:15,400 --> 01:57:17,520
Speaker 4: hasn't been able to do anything. He's on IR again.

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01:57:17,960 --> 01:57:22,160
Speaker 4: So it doesn't always mean, you know, productivity. Let's go

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Speaker 4: to Jonathan and Eastgate. What's up, Jonathan, Hello, good sir.

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Speaker 57: I chuckled earlier when you were talking about what team

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Speaker 57: you would like to follow. So as a Bears fan,

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01:57:32,120 --> 01:57:34,840
Speaker 57: I am offering you if you would like to be

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Speaker 57: a secondary Bears fan, and with that, it would have

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01:57:39,960 --> 01:57:43,560
Speaker 57: to be in the name of the Papa Hollis, of

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01:57:43,680 --> 01:57:45,760
Speaker 57: the Mike Dicka and the Ben Johnson.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that because I got a soft spot

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01:57:50,080 --> 01:57:53,800
Speaker 4: already for Detroit and Green Bay. Can I bring Chicago

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01:57:53,880 --> 01:57:55,480
Speaker 4: into the mix with those other two? I feel like

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Speaker 4: I can't.

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Speaker 54: I see it's a hard thing. But you can also

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Speaker 54: root for Billings so he used to be a Bengal,

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01:58:01,320 --> 01:58:04,240
Speaker 54: so you're still staying with your Bengel roots. And then

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01:58:04,360 --> 01:58:07,160
Speaker 54: the Bengals seventh round pick that they traded the Bears

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01:58:07,560 --> 01:58:10,240
Speaker 54: they used for common Manong guy. Yeah, I mean you

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Speaker 54: got the Bengals pick, you got Billings.

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Speaker 4: I don't like, I appreciate Jonathan Yeah, thank you. Excuse me.

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Speaker 4: Much like my you know, high school outlet, trying to

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Speaker 4: choose a team at the beginning of this year, I'm

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Speaker 4: open to interpretation. Obviously, once the season ends, I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: pick a playoff team and that's gonna be my team.

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Speaker 19: Uh.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I can't pick Chicago though, I especially

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Speaker 4: I don't like Caleb Williams, although it would be fun

2183
01:58:42,120 --> 01:58:44,760
Speaker 4: because of all the Bulls fans I know to maybe

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Speaker 4: join in with them for one I don't know. Let's

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Speaker 4: go to Drew in Cincinnati. What's up, Drew?

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Speaker 7: I had the I R S email me today. They

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01:58:58,120 --> 01:59:01,440
Speaker 7: didn't They're on my files from two thousand and I'm like, now,

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01:59:01,520 --> 01:59:03,080
Speaker 7: that's four years ago.

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01:59:03,200 --> 01:59:06,640
Speaker 55: But I father in law is a big Steelers fan.

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01:59:06,720 --> 01:59:07,760
Speaker 7: I'm in their family chat.

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Speaker 32: They're all from Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 24: That was brutal yesterday.

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Speaker 3: I can't.

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01:59:12,520 --> 01:59:14,320
Speaker 23: I'm trying to hang my hat on something.

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Speaker 7: Every off season, I get so excited for the year

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Speaker 7: because we have Burrough. Right now, I got really nothing

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Speaker 7: I'm looking forward to for next year. I just the

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01:59:24,640 --> 01:59:27,680
Speaker 7: pain is just really I'm remembering how bad our defense is.

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Speaker 7: You're an Ohio State fan. I'm not talking to my

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01:59:31,120 --> 01:59:32,680
Speaker 7: buddy who's also a Ohio State fan.

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Speaker 48: Last night, I said, who.

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Speaker 7: Do you think we should try to get Caleb Downs?

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Speaker 7: Or who's the linebacker slash dn that you guys had to.

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Speaker 25: Right now?

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Speaker 54: Between those two, which one are you leaning?

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Speaker 7: Because I think we got to go defense, no doubt

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Speaker 7: in the first round.

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01:59:52,080 --> 01:59:53,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, you might be able to split the difference and

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Speaker 4: go with Caden McDonald, who's a nasty defensive tackle junior

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Speaker 4: out of Georgia. He's a beast and has played really

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Speaker 4: well this year. I would lean Caleb Downs right now.

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Speaker 4: Instant leadership instantly improves that position. He would start in

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Speaker 4: either spot, doesn't matter. He's basically Jesse Bates, and I

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Speaker 4: would be I would be all over that.

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Speaker 21: Well, we need the leadership.

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Speaker 7: That's exactly what my friend said the same thing. So

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Speaker 7: he must have great leadership in the locker room, and

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02:00:25,240 --> 02:00:27,600
Speaker 7: we do need that. However, I don't think just one

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Speaker 7: guy like that's going to tell the defense in one

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Speaker 7: year at safety. The other guy, though, the way people

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Speaker 7: talk about him, and not to make this in a

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Speaker 7: hot state segment, I know plenty of people don't like that.

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Speaker 7: But the other guy, I've heard he's a game wrecker

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Speaker 7: and a changer, so I tend to kind of lean

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Speaker 7: his way. We need someone to make a splash right now.

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Speaker 7: I'm not too worried about the leadership because, yeah, I

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02:00:48,040 --> 02:00:50,320
Speaker 7: don't think the leaders it's not really going to be

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02:00:50,520 --> 02:00:52,760
Speaker 7: a big change in the locker room. But all right,

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Speaker 7: well that's all I wanted to know.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it. Yeah, Drew, thank you for the phone call.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't matter if if you get him, if you

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Speaker 4: get Caleb Downs, if you get Kiden McDonald, if he

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02:01:01,000 --> 02:01:03,880
Speaker 4: hit rvel Rees, if you get any of the other

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Speaker 4: guys that might be available in the first round. It's

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Speaker 4: gonna take more than one. Rvel Reese I think is

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02:01:10,280 --> 02:01:14,080
Speaker 4: comparable to Shamar Stewart except ten times more productive and

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02:01:14,400 --> 02:01:20,280
Speaker 4: ten times fewer snaps. Basically, he's another ridiculous physical specimen.

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Speaker 4: He'll be a top ten pick. I would expect McDonald

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02:01:25,760 --> 02:01:27,920
Speaker 4: is going to be top a first round pick. Caleb

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Speaker 4: down is gonna be a first round pick. Either way,

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Speaker 4: they have a lot of needs. All three of those

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Speaker 4: dudes fit a need. This is the problem you face, though,

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Speaker 4: is when you start drafting for need over best player available.

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02:01:40,800 --> 02:01:43,440
Speaker 4: The good news is on defense, they've got so many

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Speaker 4: needs they can draft the best player available. Whether it's

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Speaker 4: a d lyman, an edge, a safety, a corner, doesn't matter.

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Speaker 4: They've got needs all over the place. We'll take a break.

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Speaker 4: We'll come back. More phone calls next on ESPN fifteen

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Speaker 4: to thirty old Bengals Nation Lives Here fifteen thirty Tony

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Speaker 4: Pike's Monday midday Quarterback on Austin Elmore. Got one more

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Speaker 4: segment where we can get to some phone calls before

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Speaker 4: we get to Tony and mohead of the Tony and

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02:02:13,320 --> 02:02:17,040
Speaker 4: Mo Football Show this afternoon. Let's start with Jeff in

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Speaker 4: New Richmond. What's up, Jeff, Hey, Austin. How you doing,

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Speaker 4: I'm good man. What's on your mind?

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Speaker 18: Hey?

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Speaker 16: So I was thinking about just the rest of the season.

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Speaker 5: A couple questions for you.

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Speaker 16: First of all, in good faith, would you stick Joe

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02:02:35,840 --> 02:02:37,280
Speaker 16: Burrow back out there again?

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Speaker 24: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I have no problem with Joe playing if he wants

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Speaker 4: to play, okay.

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Speaker 16: And then I was thinking about the coaching situation as well.

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Speaker 16: I don't think they would make a change till the

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Speaker 16: end of the year. But the thing that I think

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Speaker 16: that needs to be done, And you know, correct me

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Speaker 16: if you don't agree with this, but you know, if

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Speaker 16: you look at Marvin Lewis and you look at Zach

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02:03:02,320 --> 02:03:05,480
Speaker 16: and just kind of their personalities, I think you need

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Speaker 16: to find a head coach that's going to be a

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Speaker 16: lot more rigid, if you know what I mean, Somebody that.

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Speaker 5: Is going to really kind of I don't know, I

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02:03:16,560 --> 02:03:16,920
Speaker 5: don't know.

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Speaker 16: Which coach would kind of fall into that category, but

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Speaker 16: somebody that's maybe not as buddy buddy, that is going

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Speaker 16: to kind of be more old school, that's going to

2278
02:03:27,960 --> 02:03:32,640
Speaker 16: lay down the line and sort of prevent, you know,

2279
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Speaker 16: these distractions that we've had this year, especially, But you know,

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Speaker 16: I don't know, I mean maybe that's the type of

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Speaker 16: coach that they need to pursue, because it seems like

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Speaker 16: if you go back through the years, and I'm going

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Speaker 16: back before Marvin Lewis as well, for the most part,

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Speaker 16: you've had a bunch of coaches that are very soft spoken,

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Speaker 16: that are not rigid like that you have to go

2286
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Speaker 16: back to almost like Forrest greg back in the eighties

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02:04:02,840 --> 02:04:05,920
Speaker 16: to find kind of a hard nosed, rigid die.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Jeff, I agree with you, and thank you for

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Speaker 4: the phone call. I'm trying to get these last two

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Speaker 4: phone calls in. Yes, I agree. I think of a

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Speaker 4: guy like Dan Campbell, even to an extent what Ben

2292
02:04:17,400 --> 02:04:20,800
Speaker 4: Johnson has brought to Chicago, there needs to be a

2293
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Speaker 4: level of respect and I think almost in a way,

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02:04:23,680 --> 02:04:29,080
Speaker 4: a level of fear or understanding about your boss, about

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Speaker 4: your coach. Now, Marvin had it for a while that

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Speaker 4: I think eventually you went away. Zach I think has

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02:04:35,560 --> 02:04:39,760
Speaker 4: the respect of his team, but it feels like so

2298
02:04:39,960 --> 02:04:42,880
Speaker 4: much that is starting to slip away, and I'm not

2299
02:04:43,040 --> 02:04:46,360
Speaker 4: sure how they fix it. But I agree that type

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Speaker 4: of coach, that type of personality, I think is good,

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02:04:49,200 --> 02:04:52,440
Speaker 4: especially for a young team like the Bengals have let's

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Speaker 4: go to Mike in LA to wrap it up.

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Speaker 26: What's up, Mike, Hey, there two things I got out

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Speaker 26: most from yesterday, uh in watching the NFL was that

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Speaker 26: the two teams to me that I could pose a

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Speaker 26: threat to the Eagles or the Rams. And on the

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Speaker 26: other side, Denver Vance Joseph has got to be the

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Speaker 26: decordinator of the year. That's that's that's a hands down.

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Speaker 26: They had too well, Kirk Hans out and then they

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Speaker 26: had two other guys out.

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Speaker 41: On the defensive unit. Didn't seem to matter to them. Yeah,

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02:05:28,080 --> 02:05:31,960
Speaker 41: they they They pretty much humbled the Chiefs even though

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02:05:31,960 --> 02:05:34,240
Speaker 41: it was a close game, but when it counted, they

2314
02:05:34,360 --> 02:05:36,920
Speaker 41: got it done. On the other side with the Rams,

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Speaker 41: I mean, if Stafford's not the m v P right now,

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02:05:39,480 --> 02:05:43,080
Speaker 41: then I don't know what is. Plus, their defense just

2317
02:05:43,200 --> 02:05:46,520
Speaker 41: goes unheralded. Don't you think Austin just wasn't your comments

2318
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Speaker 41: on those two?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, forcing forcing those turnovers against the Seahawks and Sam

2320
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Speaker 4: Darnold was was incredibly impressive. And it wasn't even the

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Speaker 4: best day from the Rams offense, but yet they were

2322
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Speaker 4: still able to be productive in and those inter division

2323
02:06:01,600 --> 02:06:05,000
Speaker 4: matchups are especially difficult Seattle's defense is really good. I

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Speaker 4: think Seattle will still have something to say about it

2325
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Speaker 4: in the playoffs, especially if Detroit isn't there. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm right there with you. I mean, the Rams are

2327
02:06:13,760 --> 02:06:17,840
Speaker 4: a wagon. They have that sort of experience at quarterback,

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Speaker 4: and obviously Sean McVay at head coach. They're right there

2329
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Speaker 4: in the conversation. I think some would probably view them

2330
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Speaker 4: as a favorite, especially the way they played against Philly

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Speaker 4: in the playoffs last year.

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Speaker 26: What do you think of the Broncos done? Do you

2333
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Speaker 26: think they'll come out of the out of the AC.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if I'm ready to take them

2335
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Speaker 4: out of the AFC yet, but I think they got

2336
02:06:36,880 --> 02:06:39,200
Speaker 4: the best chance. I mean that defense is incredible. Pass

2337
02:06:39,400 --> 02:06:41,640
Speaker 4: rush is the best in the NFL by far, like

2338
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Speaker 4: by a wide margin, and as you said, they have

2339
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Speaker 4: been able to win without some of their best players.

2340
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Speaker 4: Their offense does just enough. I wonder about that in January,

2341
02:06:51,920 --> 02:06:55,800
Speaker 4: but defense travels. Defense doesn't worry about the weather. Pass

2342
02:06:55,920 --> 02:06:58,680
Speaker 4: rush obviously overrides those as well. So yeah, I think

2343
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Speaker 4: Denver's probably got the lead. Uh as far as the

2344
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Speaker 4: odds are concerned, to come out of the AFC at

2345
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Speaker 4: least what I would think. Thanks Mike, thanks for the

2346
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Speaker 4: phone call. The playoffs are going to be awesome. Playoffs

2347
02:07:11,160 --> 02:07:14,560
Speaker 4: are going to be awesome. Quick update Bengals uh Cam

2348
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Speaker 4: Taylor Britt in the locker room has a boot on

2349
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Speaker 4: his left foot. Is also riding around on a scooter.

2350
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Speaker 4: As I mentioned earlier, Jamar Chase declined to comment to reporters.

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Speaker 4: We'll take a break, we'll come back. We'll talk to

2352
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Speaker 4: Tony Pike and Mo Eggar out of the Tony and

2353
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Speaker 4: Mo Football Show, which is coming up next on ESPN

2354
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Speaker 4: fifteen thirty. Bengals football starts here.

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Speaker 20: It's time for Sincy three sixty quick hits of ESPN fifteenth.

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Speaker 4: Yes, indeed it is. We found Mo alongside Tony at

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Speaker 4: Twin Peaks. Where are you boys at today? Which Twin

2358
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Speaker 4: Peaks location?

2359
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Speaker 3: We are at the Florence location. Audience, what's going on? Well?

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Speaker 3: How were you?

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Speaker 33: Mo?

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Speaker 7: Are you?

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Speaker 4: You know you had a busy weekend. I know you're

2364
02:07:55,880 --> 02:07:59,240
Speaker 4: on play by play yesterday for the Bearcat basketball team.

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Speaker 29: What did you?

2366
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Speaker 4: Have you ever spit on someone?

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Speaker 29: Mo?

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02:08:02,120 --> 02:08:02,160
Speaker 23: No?

2369
02:08:03,000 --> 02:08:04,120
Speaker 4: Have you ever been spit on?

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02:08:04,880 --> 02:08:04,920
Speaker 23: No?

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Speaker 9: But I believe that, like even in our completely fractured

2372
02:08:10,080 --> 02:08:13,000
Speaker 9: social construct that that's kind of the one thing we

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02:08:13,080 --> 02:08:13,800
Speaker 9: can all agree on.

2374
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Speaker 3: You don't spit on somebody.

2375
02:08:15,440 --> 02:08:15,840
Speaker 4: It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: You and I were together for the first Thursday night

2377
02:08:17,640 --> 02:08:19,760
Speaker 2: game of the year and we had to talk about spinning.

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02:08:19,880 --> 02:08:20,200
Speaker 3: We did.

2379
02:08:20,560 --> 02:08:24,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like the thought of is that one of

2380
02:08:24,840 --> 02:08:27,560
Speaker 2: the most heinous acts you can commit? Right, Like, I

2381
02:08:27,600 --> 02:08:30,040
Speaker 2: wouldn't spit on my worst enemy in this.

2382
02:08:30,280 --> 02:08:33,120
Speaker 9: Era where all social norms have gone out the window.

2383
02:08:33,200 --> 02:08:35,840
Speaker 9: I feel like that's the one thing that we've all

2384
02:08:35,920 --> 02:08:36,800
Speaker 9: been able to agree on.

2385
02:08:36,920 --> 02:08:37,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, we all circle to that.

2386
02:08:38,040 --> 02:08:40,960
Speaker 3: You don't end and if you are caught spinning on someone,

2387
02:08:41,680 --> 02:08:42,200
Speaker 3: just admit it.

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02:08:42,480 --> 02:08:42,720
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2389
02:08:43,120 --> 02:08:43,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2390
02:08:43,360 --> 02:08:45,440
Speaker 4: Does it make it worse that he lied about it?

2391
02:08:45,680 --> 02:08:45,880
Speaker 26: Yeah?

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02:08:46,760 --> 02:08:46,960
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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02:08:47,120 --> 02:08:50,760
Speaker 9: I mean, Look, I love Jamar Chase. I love watching

2394
02:08:50,880 --> 02:08:55,320
Speaker 9: him play. He's a terrific player by all accounts, a

2395
02:08:55,440 --> 02:08:58,640
Speaker 9: good dude. I would have a lot more respect for

2396
02:08:58,840 --> 02:09:02,040
Speaker 9: him if he said, look, heat of the moment, I

2397
02:09:02,160 --> 02:09:06,120
Speaker 9: did something I shouldn't have Okay, cool, I'll take my

2398
02:09:06,280 --> 02:09:09,880
Speaker 9: punishment denying it in the face of what, for me

2399
02:09:10,080 --> 02:09:13,560
Speaker 9: is quite obvious video footage. I've watched it exactly twice.

2400
02:09:13,680 --> 02:09:16,000
Speaker 9: I haven't had to re examine it like this Zuppruter film.

2401
02:09:16,040 --> 02:09:19,640
Speaker 9: I'm sure there's a lot of that out there. If

2402
02:09:20,760 --> 02:09:24,480
Speaker 9: if after the game or even today, there was this

2403
02:09:24,720 --> 02:09:28,480
Speaker 9: acknowledgment that, Hey, Jalen Ramsey and I were going after

2404
02:09:28,560 --> 02:09:32,400
Speaker 9: each other all day and I snapped and I did

2405
02:09:32,480 --> 02:09:34,840
Speaker 9: something I shouldn't have done, I'd go cool.

2406
02:09:35,240 --> 02:09:36,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, lying about it does work.

2407
02:09:36,800 --> 02:09:38,600
Speaker 2: That's that's my thing, even in the heat of the

2408
02:09:38,640 --> 02:09:43,280
Speaker 2: moment after the game, okay, today like hearing that he's

2409
02:09:43,400 --> 02:09:46,120
Speaker 2: declining to talk to reporters, That to me makes it

2410
02:09:46,200 --> 02:09:49,600
Speaker 2: worse because you've now had time. You know that the

2411
02:09:49,720 --> 02:09:52,240
Speaker 2: video's out there, which means you know that everyone knows

2412
02:09:52,280 --> 02:09:54,560
Speaker 2: you were lying. Yes, make this statement. And what I

2413
02:09:54,600 --> 02:09:57,840
Speaker 2: think is gonna be very interesting Zach Taylor's gonna be

2414
02:09:57,880 --> 02:10:00,520
Speaker 2: asked about it today. Is Zach gonna play this whole

2415
02:10:01,040 --> 02:10:03,720
Speaker 2: I haven't seen the video yet? Or I like, what

2416
02:10:03,960 --> 02:10:07,080
Speaker 2: is what is Zach's response gonna be? Because Jamar's not

2417
02:10:07,120 --> 02:10:10,080
Speaker 2: gonna talk, what's the head coach gonna say? Who has

2418
02:10:10,160 --> 02:10:12,720
Speaker 2: clearly seen the video, he knows the situation. He's going

2419
02:10:12,760 --> 02:10:13,880
Speaker 2: to talk here in a few minutes.

2420
02:10:14,160 --> 02:10:17,280
Speaker 9: I think it's fascinating if you don't speak out about

2421
02:10:17,280 --> 02:10:19,560
Speaker 9: the behavior. To me, That tells me you accepted and

2422
02:10:19,720 --> 02:10:22,840
Speaker 9: look like you can correct your kids. You still love

2423
02:10:22,880 --> 02:10:26,240
Speaker 9: your kids, right, you can. You can refuse to condone

2424
02:10:26,280 --> 02:10:28,840
Speaker 9: something one of your players does and you could still

2425
02:10:28,880 --> 02:10:31,400
Speaker 9: love your player like we all love Jamar Chase.

2426
02:10:32,320 --> 02:10:33,360
Speaker 3: There's no reason not to.

2427
02:10:34,160 --> 02:10:37,880
Speaker 9: In the heat of the battle yesterday, perhaps provoked by

2428
02:10:38,000 --> 02:10:40,880
Speaker 9: Jalen Ramsey, who I think is an ass clown, he

2429
02:10:41,000 --> 02:10:42,800
Speaker 9: did something he shouldn't have done, and he has been

2430
02:10:42,880 --> 02:10:47,760
Speaker 9: caught red handed, and so to me do something bad,

2431
02:10:47,960 --> 02:10:50,520
Speaker 9: that's one thing insult my intelligence. That's something else. Ye

2432
02:10:50,800 --> 02:10:52,120
Speaker 9: We audio speaks for itself.

2433
02:10:52,240 --> 02:10:56,600
Speaker 4: We often talk about culture. Is something like this indicative

2434
02:10:56,680 --> 02:10:59,880
Speaker 4: of the culture that Zach Taylor has created in that

2435
02:11:00,080 --> 02:11:03,040
Speaker 4: locker room or the idea that there is no one

2436
02:11:03,120 --> 02:11:06,919
Speaker 4: there upholding a type of culture from a leadership standpoint,

2437
02:11:07,840 --> 02:11:09,120
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know.

2438
02:11:10,040 --> 02:11:14,680
Speaker 9: Zach Taylor, in the pregame interview with Dave Lapham yesterday acknowledged, Hey, look,

2439
02:11:14,760 --> 02:11:17,520
Speaker 9: this is gonna be a physical AFC North game. We're

2440
02:11:17,560 --> 02:11:19,480
Speaker 9: not gonna We're gonna have to be able to limit

2441
02:11:19,520 --> 02:11:22,600
Speaker 9: the penalties. And to me, that was code for we

2442
02:11:22,800 --> 02:11:24,880
Speaker 9: know what happens when you play the Steelers. We know

2443
02:11:24,960 --> 02:11:26,680
Speaker 9: what happens when you play what is supposed to be

2444
02:11:26,760 --> 02:11:30,040
Speaker 9: a desperate Steelers team, and we know that Jalen Ramsey,

2445
02:11:30,720 --> 02:11:33,400
Speaker 9: who was part of his secondary that got destroyed in

2446
02:11:33,440 --> 02:11:35,960
Speaker 9: the first game, they might try to go into some

2447
02:11:36,080 --> 02:11:40,760
Speaker 9: stuff you can't. I don't know if it's a grand

2448
02:11:41,000 --> 02:11:44,720
Speaker 9: sweeping indictment against Zach Taylor's culture. I think the next

2449
02:11:44,800 --> 02:11:47,720
Speaker 9: seven weeks could be because to me, that's the big takeaway.

2450
02:11:48,080 --> 02:11:52,000
Speaker 9: This feels like week fifteen, right. It feels like it's

2451
02:11:52,120 --> 02:11:56,320
Speaker 9: right before Christmas, and Okay, the season has gone south

2452
02:11:56,640 --> 02:11:58,480
Speaker 9: and the off season is going to be here. There's

2453
02:11:58,520 --> 02:12:01,640
Speaker 9: basically another half season in front of us, and so

2454
02:12:02,080 --> 02:12:04,440
Speaker 9: I think that question is going to be better answered

2455
02:12:05,000 --> 02:12:09,280
Speaker 9: in a few weeks when we have seen them continue

2456
02:12:09,320 --> 02:12:10,920
Speaker 9: to circle the drain. For lack of a better way

2457
02:12:10,960 --> 02:12:11,520
Speaker 9: of putting.

2458
02:12:11,280 --> 02:12:14,760
Speaker 2: It, to me, it feels like it's a coach who's

2459
02:12:14,840 --> 02:12:17,680
Speaker 2: losing grasp on the locker room, but it's also a

2460
02:12:17,760 --> 02:12:18,800
Speaker 2: locker room void of leaders.

2461
02:12:19,640 --> 02:12:21,680
Speaker 4: Who's the leader on defense? We've asked this for weeks.

2462
02:12:22,160 --> 02:12:22,840
Speaker 4: Tell me who it is.

2463
02:12:23,120 --> 02:12:24,720
Speaker 2: Tell me who stands up in the meeting today when

2464
02:12:24,720 --> 02:12:26,640
Speaker 2: they're watching film and says Genostone, what is that?

2465
02:12:27,200 --> 02:12:27,320
Speaker 25: Right?

2466
02:12:27,440 --> 02:12:31,560
Speaker 4: What is that effort? Who is that Trey Hendrickson? Do

2467
02:12:31,600 --> 02:12:34,200
Speaker 4: you see him at all? Yes, I don't know.

2468
02:12:34,600 --> 02:12:36,080
Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson in Pittsburgh.

2469
02:12:36,480 --> 02:12:38,080
Speaker 4: Question, didn't see him on the sidelines.

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02:12:39,040 --> 02:12:42,760
Speaker 2: It's just to me, there's no leaders in the room,

2471
02:12:42,840 --> 02:12:44,800
Speaker 2: and the one leader, the guy that's got to see

2472
02:12:44,840 --> 02:12:47,560
Speaker 2: on his chest, spit on somebody yesterday and has now

2473
02:12:47,640 --> 02:12:51,120
Speaker 2: lied about it. So I don't know where you turn

2474
02:12:51,200 --> 02:12:53,480
Speaker 2: to this except for the top, which is the head coach,

2475
02:12:53,640 --> 02:12:56,200
Speaker 2: right or wrong or how unfair that may be. That's

2476
02:12:56,240 --> 02:12:57,600
Speaker 2: the culture that's being established.

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02:12:58,000 --> 02:13:01,920
Speaker 9: I mean to me, if Zach Taylor was doing his job,

2478
02:13:02,720 --> 02:13:06,040
Speaker 9: he has a conversation with Jamar today and says, look,

2479
02:13:06,280 --> 02:13:07,200
Speaker 9: the videos out there.

2480
02:13:08,240 --> 02:13:08,640
Speaker 3: You did it.

2481
02:13:09,600 --> 02:13:11,960
Speaker 9: Let's make this go away as quickly as possible. And

2482
02:13:12,040 --> 02:13:13,840
Speaker 9: I think the quickest way for it to go away

2483
02:13:14,560 --> 02:13:17,200
Speaker 9: is for there to be an acknowledgment yeah I did it.

2484
02:13:17,840 --> 02:13:20,480
Speaker 9: And to me, that's the coaches within his rights to

2485
02:13:20,520 --> 02:13:22,360
Speaker 9: pull his player into his office and go, look, man,

2486
02:13:23,680 --> 02:13:27,000
Speaker 9: we love you, but the videos out there, and so

2487
02:13:27,400 --> 02:13:28,320
Speaker 9: let's make this go away.

2488
02:13:28,400 --> 02:13:30,080
Speaker 2: Did he have a problem doing that when Chase Brown

2489
02:13:30,120 --> 02:13:32,120
Speaker 2: spoke up a couple weeks ago, apparently not pulled him

2490
02:13:32,160 --> 02:13:35,320
Speaker 2: in right away, right, what do we do with m Chase?

2491
02:13:35,400 --> 02:13:39,480
Speaker 9: And so to me, Zach Taylor's qualifications as a leader

2492
02:13:40,240 --> 02:13:44,400
Speaker 9: does get tested if in this instance, because you could

2493
02:13:44,440 --> 02:13:48,080
Speaker 9: either just let this kind of run wild, because until

2494
02:13:48,120 --> 02:13:50,960
Speaker 9: Jamar Chase acknowledges it, he's one of the spokespeople of

2495
02:13:51,000 --> 02:13:53,440
Speaker 9: the team. They've had him do weekly press conferences this year.

2496
02:13:54,840 --> 02:13:59,480
Speaker 9: The longer he denies, the sillier this gets. If it's

2497
02:13:59,560 --> 02:14:02,320
Speaker 9: a hey, look just today, stand in front of your

2498
02:14:02,360 --> 02:14:05,920
Speaker 9: locker or make a statement, did something I shouldn't have done.

2499
02:14:06,560 --> 02:14:10,160
Speaker 9: I know what the consequences may be. I'm focused on

2500
02:14:10,280 --> 02:14:11,839
Speaker 9: doing what I got to do to help my teammates

2501
02:14:11,880 --> 02:14:13,920
Speaker 9: get ready for Sunday. Hopefully I play in the game.

2502
02:14:13,960 --> 02:14:17,680
Speaker 9: If I don't, to me, the head coach, a strong

2503
02:14:17,800 --> 02:14:21,400
Speaker 9: head coach tells the player, Dude, it happened. We still

2504
02:14:21,480 --> 02:14:24,040
Speaker 9: love you, still a big part of our team, obviously,

2505
02:14:24,560 --> 02:14:26,560
Speaker 9: but we need this to go away. It doesn't go

2506
02:14:26,680 --> 02:14:29,840
Speaker 9: away if you keep either not talking to people or

2507
02:14:30,000 --> 02:14:32,879
Speaker 9: denying that you did something that's quite obvious on video.

2508
02:14:32,880 --> 02:14:35,920
Speaker 4: In about one minute. What did you learn for either

2509
02:14:35,960 --> 02:14:39,720
Speaker 4: of you about the Bearcats football and basketball this weekend?

2510
02:14:39,880 --> 02:14:43,000
Speaker 4: If anything, when you dare.

2511
02:14:42,920 --> 02:14:47,640
Speaker 9: U See's football team to throw they can't. And the Bearcats,

2512
02:14:48,960 --> 02:14:50,400
Speaker 9: I don't know that I learned anything.

2513
02:14:51,520 --> 02:14:54,040
Speaker 3: They didn't. They didn't play very well yesterday.

2514
02:14:54,640 --> 02:14:56,520
Speaker 9: I don't know that they've played great in a game

2515
02:14:56,640 --> 02:14:58,960
Speaker 9: this season, with the exception of a six minute stretch

2516
02:14:59,000 --> 02:15:02,320
Speaker 9: against Dayton and much of the first game.

2517
02:15:03,320 --> 02:15:05,440
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know what they are.

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02:15:05,960 --> 02:15:09,160
Speaker 2: Basketball is an unknown. Football does not have the ability

2519
02:15:09,240 --> 02:15:12,560
Speaker 2: right now to beat man coverage, and Joe Royer continues

2520
02:15:12,640 --> 02:15:14,800
Speaker 2: to be put on the side of a milk carton

2521
02:15:14,880 --> 02:15:20,000
Speaker 2: who Joe Royer tight end Bearcats could play for. The

2522
02:15:20,000 --> 02:15:22,000
Speaker 2: Bengals could play for a lot of NFL teams, but

2523
02:15:22,280 --> 02:15:23,560
Speaker 2: not utilized here in Cincinnati.

2524
02:15:24,280 --> 02:15:26,520
Speaker 4: Tony and Mo Football Show coming up three to six

2525
02:15:26,600 --> 02:15:30,360
Speaker 4: this afternoon. Men, thank you. That is Tony Pike and

2526
02:15:31,360 --> 02:15:35,120
Speaker 4: Moe Egger. They will be carrying that Bengals press conference

2527
02:15:35,160 --> 02:15:38,080
Speaker 4: with head coach Zach Taylor coming up in just a

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02:15:38,160 --> 02:15:40,960
Speaker 4: few minutes. They will react to that, to the Jamar

2529
02:15:41,120 --> 02:15:44,800
Speaker 4: Chase News, everything that happened this weekend. Back at it

2530
02:15:44,880 --> 02:15:47,920
Speaker 4: for Tony Pike since e three to sixty. Tomorrow from

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02:15:48,000 --> 02:15:51,400
Speaker 4: noon to three will be joined by Joe Daniman and

2532
02:15:51,720 --> 02:15:55,879
Speaker 4: UH continue to search for the answers in the wreckage

2533
02:15:55,920 --> 02:15:59,680
Speaker 4: that is the twenty twenty five Cincinnati Bengals season. I

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02:15:59,720 --> 02:16:02,400
Speaker 4: hope join us then, thanks so much for listening. Back

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Speaker 4: at it tomorrow Tony and mo next right here on

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Speaker 4: the home of the Cincinnati Bengals, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty, Hey,