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Speaker 2: It's nine to noon, six five one carpets plus studios.

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Speaker 2: It's Nordowen for PA nine to noon. I guess a

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Speaker 2: little mid season vocal maintenance day. You could call it

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Speaker 2: TimberTech set list on a Wednesday will feature Lavelli Neil

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Speaker 2: the third Star tribute columnist. Kind of a strip day,

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Speaker 2: to be honest with you, because at ten we got Leavel.

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Speaker 2: Prior to him, weekly guest covers the Minnesota Vikings. Courtesy

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Speaker 2: is standard heating and air. You'll hear from Ben Gesling

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Speaker 2: weekly Florio and yes, this is where we're at at

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Speaker 2: this stage. For the host of nine to Noon, when

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Speaker 2: the team is four and six, you had a double

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Speaker 2: dip international affair with Dublin in London and nothing is

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Speaker 2: going according to plan. Maybe you have, especially on a

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Speaker 2: border battle week. We need the extra rest. The host

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Speaker 2: will return in full force tomorrow. A team that on

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Speaker 2: the other side of things is just absolutely handling business

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Speaker 2: right now, winters six of their last day. Head coach

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Speaker 2: John Hines of the Minnesota Wild kicks off nine to

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Speaker 2: noon this morning. How you doing, sir, I'm doing great.

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Speaker 3: How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing well and I appreciate your time this morning.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm going backwards to that Vegas game for

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Speaker 2: a second. Carill kind of making you sweat it out

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Speaker 2: a little bit. Had to wait until the final ten

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Speaker 2: seconds of OT. You give them, you give them a

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Speaker 2: little heck about that after the game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, I was just glad he made

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Speaker 3: the play. So it was it was a big time play.

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Speaker 3: So we'll take it now.

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Speaker 2: You're you're hosting Carolina tonight. They list the game time

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Speaker 2: is eight thirty, but that's a farce. It'll be puck

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Speaker 2: drop around eight fifty five. This ain't the playoffs. This

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Speaker 2: is a Wednesday night game in November. How do these

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Speaker 2: you know, glaringly different puck drop times. Does that affect

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Speaker 2: like game day practice, how the guy's prepping such.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we try to back it up so like normally

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Speaker 3: we would do some things at say ten thirty in

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Speaker 3: the morning for a seven o'clock game, so we'll back

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Speaker 3: it up to a at eleven thirty today. So we

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Speaker 3: try to keep the players in the same routine that

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Speaker 3: they would be if it was like a seven o'clock game. Particularly,

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Speaker 3: you know, once they once they have lunch here and

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Speaker 3: then they leave and then they start their you know,

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Speaker 3: their game prep, whether they take a nap or whatever

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Speaker 3: they do in the afternoon. We try to keep that

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Speaker 3: timing the same, so that should work out pretty well

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Speaker 2: What you know, I mentioned it as I brought you

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Speaker 2: in here. Teams won six of eight and just early

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Speaker 2: stages of the season, but it really feels like there

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Speaker 2: is some rhythm to be found with your group. What's

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Speaker 2: what's been going well recently?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think we've been I think some

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Speaker 3: of the some of the adversity and things that we

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Speaker 3: went through early helped us. I think when you when

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Speaker 3: you go through some some times where you're not getting

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Speaker 3: as many wins as you'd like, you know, there's one

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Speaker 3: or two ways you can go about it. You can

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Speaker 3: required work ethic in and the action steps to get better.

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Speaker 3: I think our group has done that, and now we're

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Speaker 3: playing a more consistent game, much more to the identity

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Speaker 3: I also say that I think that in turn, what

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Speaker 2: How as as the coach, John, how hands on or

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Speaker 2: hands off do you get have to get? I guess

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Speaker 2: you can take it however you like. When things are

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Speaker 2: the tide. But these are also professionals, right, so there's

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Speaker 2: some some some personal responsibility like how hands on or

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of it is just a lot of

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Speaker 3: it's situational based. You know. Sometimes you I think when

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Speaker 3: But also it's it's a fine line too. You don't

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Speaker 2: Now with the netminders specifically, whether it's yesp' or it's

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Speaker 2: Gus Buss, what's the evaluation process in determining what we

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Speaker 2: feel for how the goalie is operating. As an outside

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Speaker 2: I gotta I I admit it doesn't always seem easy coach.

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Speaker 3: No, it's obviously a hard, hard position to to to play,

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Speaker 3: and it's a hard position to judge at times. You know,

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Speaker 3: the way we do it is we like each goalie

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Speaker 3: game doesn't necessarily mean he played bad. So it's you know,

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Speaker 3: it's really like evaluating any other player as you're looking

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think about it like from a football perspective.

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Speaker 2: You know, whether or not you're you're paying you're you're

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Speaker 2: clearly paid attention to the hockey team. But like JJ McCarthy,

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Speaker 2: I imagine whether it's camp in the offseason, there's a

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Speaker 2: But once you see a trend happening and in season,

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Speaker 2: it just seems like it'd be difficult to change course

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I think it's uh, you know, even with UH.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm obviously a Vikings fan too and watch

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Speaker 3: the games and know what's going on with JJ and UH.

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Speaker 3: You know, we all sports are very similar. It's you know,

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Speaker 3: But sometimes when you get to the to the NFL

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Speaker 3: it's just a different some of the some of the

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Speaker 3: mechanics and the fundamentals or habits that you've had that

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Speaker 3: lots of times when you get to this level, whether

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Speaker 3: time to learn that and adjust that on the fly, asaid.

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Speaker 2: Coach John Hines. Minnesota wild Wilder hosting the Canes tonight

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Speaker 2: Carolina in Town. Pregame around eight thirty PM and puck

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Speaker 2: reading some articles and stuff those who cover the team,

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Speaker 2: just seeing Danilla year off potentially again due to that

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Speaker 2: adversity that you've talked about, and you know, each season

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Speaker 2: health perspective, et cetera. But Danilla a year off the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think Danilla is kind of what

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Speaker 3: So he's learning that and he's adapting to those things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned that, whether it's it's Rossi, it's Hartman, Tarasenko,

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Speaker 2: But you know, just hanging on here, getting w's and

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Speaker 3: It is, you know, it's it's always the thing in sports,

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Speaker 3: I think when you get you know, we've been hit

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Speaker 3: You have to find a way to win, and the

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Speaker 3: you know, we'll we'll we'll keep moving forward and we

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Speaker 3: you know, every day is new. Sometimes you get guys

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Speaker 3: It's just the daily endeavor. Every day. You got to

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Speaker 2: So whether it you got yesper with a couple of

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Speaker 2: shoutouts in a row, Gus played really well and helped

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Speaker 2: get the w against Vegas. Who gets the opportunity to

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Speaker 3: Uh lost? That's going to play tonight.

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Speaker 2: Why are they doing this? They're torturing us? Is it

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Speaker 1: Right away Chicago State all over the place. Defensively, they're

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Speaker 1: A mismatch on the bill, you have one. You got

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Speaker 2: Wants to absolutely lived night.

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Speaker 1: for being in studio Parker, How how was it? How

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Speaker 1: Yes, if you put us in a gym with you,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't go in, whatever, you know, well.

434
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Speaker 2: It's one of those things now that you mention it,

435
00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,480
Speaker 2: because I'd go five to ten in the red gym

436
00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,280
Speaker 2: and no one else was there. Yeah, so you have

437
00:19:58,400 --> 00:19:59,960
Speaker 2: me going down a road now where it's like you're

438
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Speaker 2: impressed with the athleticism, but there is something like you

439
00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,359
Speaker 2: think about as much like the average roube, like me,

440
00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,760
Speaker 2: what do I expect out of my kid QB in

441
00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,480
Speaker 2: the Purple this weekend at Lambo? What do I expect

442
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,080
Speaker 2: out of these high enders? What do I expect Anthony

443
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:18,359
Speaker 2: Edwards tonight? There's the first aspect, like to belong in

444
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,119
Speaker 2: the NBA, to be in the association, you are truly

445
00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:25,240
Speaker 2: the point oh one percent of all high end athletes

446
00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 2: that can actually get there. But the other end of

447
00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,200
Speaker 2: it is still just the base level. There's a mental component,

448
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:35,879
Speaker 2: like you have eighteen thousand people watching you every single game,

449
00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,760
Speaker 2: and again how different it is. You know, whether I'm

450
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,920
Speaker 2: armchair quarterbacking or again I'll give myself I'm six to

451
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Speaker 2: ten in the red gym. We'll say I touched the

452
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Speaker 2: net once and that it was never going to be

453
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Speaker 2: an option for me. But the ability to do it

454
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Speaker 2: in front of groups, so maybe that builds through the

455
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,640
Speaker 2: AAU times and such. You get used to having people

456
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Speaker 2: around watching you play and blocking it out. It's just

457
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Speaker 2: really impressive to me now that you think. I think

458
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 2: about that, the athleticism with the mental component of some roub,

459
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,479
Speaker 2: you know, like Draymond Green somebody times he shoots like

460
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,439
Speaker 2: Angel Reese or something like that back on the best.

461
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Speaker 2: Having to deal with that in itself, it seems just

462
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,360
Speaker 2: kind of a near impossibility for most of us to fathom. Yeah,

463
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:17,880
Speaker 2: I think too.

464
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Speaker 1: Free throws are, Like I said, we have had teams

465
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 1: that have had free throw struggles, so we spend so

466
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Speaker 1: much time in practice shooting free throws, and you literally

467
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,199
Speaker 1: see guys go one hundred for one hundred and one,

468
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Speaker 1: or I've seen guys make a hundred free throws in

469
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Speaker 1: a row type of situation. So it's like, it's not

470
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Speaker 1: it's not a physical thing that they're struggling to do.

471
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Speaker 1: Free throws are all confidence. And the other thing about

472
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Speaker 1: free throws is if you're trying to will it in

473
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Speaker 1: the hoop, if you're putting too much pressure on it,

474
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Speaker 1: you're never gonna make it because then you shoot it

475
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 1: too flat. You shooting is such a unique thing. You

476
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 1: have to have the arc right if you don't have

477
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Speaker 1: the arc, doesn't have the chance of there's the whole

478
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Speaker 1: analytics of you know, shooting whatever it is, Ricky Rubio though, exactly,

479
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,920
Speaker 1: you just got to shoot it right. And so many

480
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,199
Speaker 1: guys try to aim free throws and they aim not

481
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Speaker 1: to miss versus to just shoot. So I think that's

482
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Speaker 1: where it comes from. I'm definitely guilty of it, dude.

483
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Speaker 1: I used to see a freaking therapist for free throw shooting,

484
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Speaker 1: like zoom calls with somebody, because I was trying to

485
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,919
Speaker 1: be too perfect the whole deal. Really, this is just

486
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,479
Speaker 1: me my perfectionism a little bit.

487
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 2: That's fine.

488
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, free throws are It's something that's haunted me throughout

489
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Speaker 1: my career, and it's funny to see it kind of

490
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 1: coming back into this Gopher's roster again.

491
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Speaker 2: I wonder how many athletes do that. That must be

492
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Speaker 2: a nice little cottage industry of sports therapy. Oh dude,

493
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 2: what like we're all nutcases somehow.

494
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

495
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 2: But the ability to sell the idea that I could

496
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 2: put you, I can make you better on the court

497
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Speaker 2: or on the field.

498
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Speaker 1: Well, and then you add professionally add that into the

499
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Speaker 1: social media era nowadays, and it's just like there's too

500
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,200
Speaker 1: many guys that judge their performance on what people say

501
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 1: about them on social media, and then you have you're

502
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: down a whole nother rabbit hole that we don't need

503
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Speaker 1: to discuss from.

504
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Speaker 2: No, you're one hundred percent right, Okay, Well thanks for

505
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 2: entertaining me on that. To the Howl. So the Howl

506
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 2: have the awful Wizards in table oh so bad. They

507
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 2: should win tonight heavily favored. I'm imagining double digits, and

508
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 2: they'll handle business and improve. You know. The one thing

509
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,679
Speaker 2: though with this team just kind of within the construct

510
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,719
Speaker 2: of the West. I mentioned to you off air and

511
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 2: ended the previous segment with it. The West started out

512
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Speaker 2: to me just thinking about like how lopsided East versus

513
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 2: West if we're going to go that route. And the

514
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 2: Sun's dealing with some injuries like Jalen Green's going to

515
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 2: be out a month. I mean, they still have a

516
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 2: winning record. The Dubs trying to find their way. We

517
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 2: know how bad the Jazz are, We've seen him in person.

518
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 2: But a couple of teams that I did not envision

519
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 2: being in complete dire straits right now. More than a couple.

520
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 2: In fact, the Clippers are just completely cooked the Grizzlies

521
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 2: just new coach, and I wonder, I wonder how much

522
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 2: job and I'm totally losing it was a tailor. I

523
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 2: forget who the former coach was. Yes, that was fired,

524
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 2: but I wonder if that has a problem with jaw Well.

525
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 2: I mean, Morant has had several problems over the course

526
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Speaker 2: of his career.

527
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Speaker 3: Definitely.

528
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 2: But the Mavericks have gone. You know, you hated Nico Harrison,

529
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 2: then you then you loved him. They get the first pick,

530
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 2: they pick Cooper Flagg. Now I can kind of see

531
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 2: what this could look like, and now he's been fired.

532
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 2: Like the West is kind of back to the usual suspects, right, like, okay,

533
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 2: see the Nugs, Houston, the Lakers, and the Howl. It's

534
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 2: kind of interesting.

535
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you go into the year and you're like, how

536
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 1: tough is the West going to be? Just like you said,

537
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Speaker 1: and I thought the Clippers were going to be a

538
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 1: better team. They've They've dealt with a little bit of

539
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: injuries as well. But yeah, Memphis, like you mentioned, there's

540
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 1: just a whole lot of nothing going on. They're trying

541
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: to figure out, hey, can we get something really good

542
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: for Jah?

543
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 2: Where would Jah like to go?

544
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,360
Speaker 1: The Kings are terrible, the Pelicans are terrible, The Mavericks

545
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 1: can't stay healthy. So then you kind of get into

546
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 1: that playoff and you're looking at the Jazz, who are

547
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 1: a five wing team. Portland who's kind of a gritty team,

548
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: but they had the whole bit with their coach and

549
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: Chauncey Billups and gambling and stuff. So it's trouble in

550
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 1: paradise there at Portland. You go to Golden State, they

551
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 1: have their usual thing going on. But if you're a

552
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: Timberlves fan, you've got to be happy about what's going on.

553
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 1: The only team in front of you that you're really

554
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 1: worried about is truly the Thunder and the nugg. It's

555
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 1: obviously this Rock teams has a lot with Kevin Durant,

556
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: but there's no there's no reason why we can't kind

557
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 1: of skip the Spurs there. Wemby's out for the next

558
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, so I imagine the Wolves kind of find

559
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 1: a way to find.

560
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 2: That five spot.

561
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: But we got to beat teams that are ahead of

562
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: us right where h and five against teams with a

563
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 1: winning record, something that's not acceptable if you're trying to

564
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: be a playoff caliber and a Western Conference kind of team.

565
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: So we've had a pretty light schedule too throughout the

566
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: start of this thing.

567
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 2: But well, and it's going to continue to be light, man.

568
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 2: I mean, it's so the Wizards tonight. We talked a

569
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 2: bit about this yesterday, like in a in a Western Conference.

570
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 2: What it was just this last year, one win separated

571
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 2: like five teams in standings. So dropping a game to

572
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 2: the Wizards in November sounds meaningless. Actually it could mean

573
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: everything six months from now. But you got Sacramento in

574
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 2: a few days. Okay, See in Boston will be tough.

575
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 2: Boston kind of they're trying to figure things out with Jalen.

576
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 2: I think they're just okay right now, to be honest,

577
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 2: But san Antoni are gonna get him, probably without Wemby yep.

578
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 3: Oh.

579
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: And then you get two against Hell's two free ones,

580
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 1: and then the Clippers have quit.

581
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 2: There's Memphis in the mix there. Who knows if Jyle

582
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 2: be on the team or plane. Yeah, feast on these

583
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 2: bad teams and run it up right.

584
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you look through December, there's really only four

585
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: games that make me nervous. Milwaukee, You're always going to

586
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 1: be nervous with jansant Tokumpo. But you get Oklahoma City twice,

587
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: one home, one away, you get Phoenix one home, one away.

588
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 1: They could steal one.

589
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 2: But Cat two days before Christmas, the Nicks in town.

590
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 1: That's an interesting one, that's for sure. That's a that's

591
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 1: a that's that homecoming type for Cat. I'm sure he's

592
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: gonna have a forty ball. It's just obvious.

593
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, if you look at the some Joker, where's

594
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 2: a Santa Cap on Christmas? I'd love to see Joker

595
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: at a Santa Cap. We'll playing them on Christmas. Oh

596
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 2: he really? Yeah, it's a night there, right, It's a

597
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 2: nine to thirty game, mile high, Yeah, wall Arena.

598
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

599
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 2: I wonder what he's doing after the game. He's going

600
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 2: to celebrate. I think he goes and he's probably like

601
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 2: open some presents. He's got. He's got a couple of

602
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 2: little kids, now, doesn't Yeah, I think so.

603
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 1: And he's got he's got the family life is his

604
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: brother and dad are seemingly at every game, and they

605
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 1: sat right next to us at one of the playoff

606
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 1: games in a suite when we were up in the

607
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: media seats. The size of his brother, just the shoulders,

608
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: it's like that that Eddie Hall guy, the Strong World

609
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: strong Man or whatever.

610
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 2: It's just different.

611
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: When you look at their shoulders, it's like, there's five

612
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: of my shoulders in one of your shoulders.

613
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 2: It's great. Do we know what his parents look like?

614
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 2: Because I picture almost that's like teenage mutant ninja turtle stuff,

615
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 2: Like they're growing up in Serbia or wherever, and they

616
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: just stumbled upon some weird ooze and now they're just

617
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 2: freaking giants. I don't know what's going on. Who knows,

618
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 2: I don't know, but wolves tonight gonna get the w

619
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 2: I last thing, and I guess maybe this bears more

620
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 2: conversation in the future. I had I had seen this

621
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 2: podcast and it was it was a doctor named Daniel

622
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 2: Ahman and he apparently had treated or done a podcast

623
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 2: with Julius Randall and he had and they were talking

624
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,239
Speaker 2: about marijuana and basically kind of the idea Randall's like,

625
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: marijuana was affecting my family life. I thought I was

626
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 2: playing marijuana, but but he's He's out and I don't

627
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 2: know how recent that is. Maybe I'm just late to

628
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: the party on that, but but how rampant is marijuana

629
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 2: use in hoops? Oh? It's huge. Is it just ubiquitous

630
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 2: like that because the NBA allows you you can use it,

631
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 2: they don't no testing for it. Yeah.

632
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: I've played with a handful of guys throughout college that

633
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: love their love their marijuana. Julius Randall was one of

634
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: the guys known for being very pro cannabis. I think

635
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: it was just like September that he that he cut

636
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: it out. I think this is the first season he

637
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: hasn't played underneath it. I doubt that you can go

638
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: find specific stats that say, all he's playing so.

639
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 2: Much better on or off. We probably not.

640
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: But like Kevin Durant, best player in the world, he's

641
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: high all the all the time.

642
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 3: You know.

643
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: So, I've had enough teammates in the NBA that that

644
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: tell me that their their wing of the hotel when

645
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: they're on the road smells hungent, smells pretty good. Have

646
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: you ever seen the picture of It's like Jada McDaniel's

647
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: nasried and Rudy Gobert and they're like, oh yeah, they're

648
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: like just taking a team picture or a group picture

649
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: and it's just in a cannabis shop. But it's like

650
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Speaker 1: they don't care. It's just is what it is. So

651
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Speaker 1: very prevalent thing. But I think you hear a lot

652
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Speaker 1: of guys spins on it to the fact that you're

653
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Speaker 1: thinking so much, right, like you throw out a basketball

654
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: and there's so many things to think about, and then

655
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: all these guys are perfectionists. So you take it to

656
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Speaker 1: your home and now you your you know, your personal

657
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: life with your wife and your kids isn't as good

658
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Speaker 1: because you're only focused on basketball. And they say they

659
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Speaker 1: use it to just kind of relax and forget about

660
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Speaker 1: everything going on.

661
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Speaker 2: And I don't know it's it's legal, so yeah, no,

662
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Speaker 2: I'm not testing for it. So for me, it wasn't.

663
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Speaker 2: For me, it wasn't as much a judgment thing. People

664
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Speaker 2: they do what they want to do. It was just

665
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Speaker 2: it was kind of an interesting because all I've seen

666
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Speaker 2: in recent years is the momentum of pro weed. Yeah,

667
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Speaker 2: and it was just interesting, you know, kind of the

668
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Speaker 2: self reflecting nature of a Julius Randall who's like, well, actually,

669
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Speaker 2: I mean, I just I wanted to be a better husband.

670
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Speaker 2: I wanted to be credit to him. Yeah, I thought

671
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Speaker 2: I was playing better with it. Actually I don't think

672
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Speaker 2: I was, And now we're just not going to do it.

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Speaker 2: I just thought that that was kind of cool, and

674
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Speaker 2: you said it was September. I guess I was late

675
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Speaker 2: to it, but I stumbled upon it yesterday. But yeah,

676
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Speaker 2: credit to him to identify that.

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Speaker 1: That takes a lot of courage because regardless if you

678
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Speaker 1: think it's an addictive substance or not, like you're, you're

679
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Speaker 1: probably addicted to the high, you know what I mean,

680
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Speaker 1: You're probably addicted to getting high. So the fact that

681
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Speaker 1: he can say, hey, I'm not the man, the husband,

682
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Speaker 1: the player I want to be. Let's cut that out

683
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: like that takes. That takes some toughness.

684
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Speaker 2: It does when you're on TV.

685
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Speaker 1: Next next game isn't for a while. I think December

686
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Speaker 1: fourteenth is our next game. They got some Peacock games

687
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Speaker 1: and some Prime games. You know how it is now

688
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Speaker 1: to try to watch a college basketball game.

689
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Speaker 2: Get it now? Big ten plus is going to get

690
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Speaker 2: another fourteen dollars out of me.

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Speaker 1: No more Big ten plus games, all national broadcasts from

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Speaker 1: here on.

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Speaker 2: That's so music to my Cancel that subscription, baby, you're

694
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Speaker 2: the best man. Have an awesome day, Sita. Good to

695
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Speaker 2: see you, guys, Good to see you. That's Parker Fox

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Speaker 2: Florio ProFootball Talk dot Com is next. Welcome back nine

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Speaker 2: to noon, weekly guest Longtime nine to Noon. The host

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Speaker 2: is out, the producer is in, but Mike Florio remains

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Speaker 2: You hear Father of Mine, whether it's the book Father

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Speaker 2: Amazon find those books. The author, the TV host, the

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Speaker 2: radio guy, Mike Floria with me. Now, how you doing, Mike?

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Speaker 6: What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 6: How are you?

711
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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 2: It's a beautiful day and I'm trying to figure out

713
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Speaker 2: how to handle JJ McCarthyism within the state of Minnesota.

714
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Speaker 2: You know, I'm just curious as you get the opportunity.

715
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Speaker 2: I know there's an affinity for the Vikings, but you

716
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 2: still have a pragmatic view of things. You know, through

717
00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: five games, it's been interesting at times, clutch at times, disastrous, inconsistent, inaccurate, frustrating,

718
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Speaker 2: insert adjective here. What is your kind of unvarnished opinion

719
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Speaker 2: now through a handful of games, the trials and tribulations

720
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Speaker 2: of JJ McCarthy.

721
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Speaker 6: I like the JJ McCarthy as I guess that would

722
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Speaker 6: make the operative question are you now or have you ever?

723
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Speaker 3: Been?

724
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Speaker 6: A franchise quarterback? And for now the matter continued to

725
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 6: be up in the air. There are mechanical issues. Kevin,

726
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 6: Kevin O'Connell, no, Kevin McCarthy. See, it's very easy to

727
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 6: mix the two up. Kevin McCarthy's, JJ McCarthy's, Kevin O'Connell's,

728
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 6: Neil O'Donnell, have your pick. But the reality is there

729
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 6: are far too many instances where he's just not accurate.

730
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Speaker 6: And the problem is when he turns it around late

731
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Speaker 6: in the game, it takes off the front burner, this

732
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Speaker 6: question of where is this thing heading? And that has

733
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Speaker 6: to end. You have to take that whatever it is

734
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 6: that planet's aligning when the game is on the line

735
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 6: and move that performance deeper into the game. It's got

736
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 6: to start sooner when he falls into that mindset of

737
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 6: quit thinking and just go out and do it. And

738
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Speaker 6: I think that's what happens late in the game. He

739
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 6: stops thinking about it and he just reverts to instinct

740
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 6: and We've got the rest of the season to evaluate,

741
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 6: to examine, to see what improvements they can make on

742
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Speaker 6: the fly, one week at a time, and then I

743
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 6: think after the season they really do have to make

744
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Speaker 6: a decision, and they already should be evaluating. I wrote

745
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 6: about this earlier today. All options that are out there

746
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 6: for next year, the problem is there won't be an

747
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 6: abundance of veteran quarterbacks with starting experience who could be

748
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Speaker 6: brought in to have a legitimate competition, not a rigged

749
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Speaker 6: competition where we're just bringing a guy in to go

750
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Speaker 6: through the hollow motion of creating the impression that there's competition.

751
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 6: There needs to be real competition. There needs to be

752
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 6: playing time consequences for not developing that the way the

753
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 6: Vikings are trying to get into develop and look, the

754
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 6: biggest mistake any organization can ever make is when a

755
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 6: mistake has been made, to double down on it and

756
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 6: not admit it and act accordingly. And I think the

757
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 6: right way to act, based upon what we've seen so

758
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 6: far this season, is to bring in real competition and

759
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Speaker 6: see how it plays out, and also have a viable

760
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Speaker 6: backup who can come out and get the job done

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Speaker 6: on a weekend and week out basis. If JJ McCarthy

762
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Speaker 6: gets injured again, and the injuries are part of the problem.

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Speaker 6: I saw people making excuses for the inaccuracies on Sunday,

764
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Speaker 6: saying his hand was injured. Well, it's just another example

765
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Speaker 6: of a quarterback who gets injured and it's not his fault. Look,

766
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Speaker 6: every player has a ceiling somewhere between whatever he accomplished

767
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 6: in college and the Pro Football Hall of Fame, and

768
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Speaker 6: we only find out where the ceiling is by playing.

769
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Speaker 6: And if the ceiling isn't high enough, then the team

770
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 6: has to make decisions in the quote unquote best interests

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Speaker 6: of the organization. And I think that's what this ultimately

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Speaker 6: comes down to. Instead of being stubborn and continuing to

773
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Speaker 6: push forward with something that isn't working, they need to

774
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 6: be thinking about other ways to get to where they

775
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 6: want to be. And that's the great irony here. One

776
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 6: of the reasons Daniel Jones didn't stick around, even though

777
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 6: the Vikings reportedly were offering more money. He just assumed

778
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 6: that Kevin O'Connell's going to get the most out of

779
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 6: JJ McCarthy and Daniel Jones isn't going to get a

780
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 6: chance to play and right now we haven't seen it.

781
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 6: So if we don't see it by the end of

782
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 6: the year, I think that all options need to be

783
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 6: on the table for twenty twenty six. And McCarthy's started

784
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Speaker 6: a contract for two more years. I'm not suggesting move on.

785
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Speaker 6: I'm just suggesting move forward to a real competition for

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I like the way you're looking at it, and I

789
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 2: kind of wonder, you know, Coach of the Year a

790
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: lot of accolades, team wins fourteen games. There's a resurrection

791
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 2: part of this with what Sam Darnold did a year ago.

792
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 2: I just wonder what the coach is kind of learning

793
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 2: from this process where best of luck to Sam Daniel

794
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Speaker 2: Jones off to Indie. Yeah, I think they offered him

795
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 2: like a half million dollars more. In the end, it

796
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: was the JJ was the plan and and what he's

797
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 2: learned in terms of think, you know, the raising the

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00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: kid while also trying to manage the team. Like I

799
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 2: just feel when we see Kevin O'Connell every Tuesday, Mike

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00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 2: at TCO down An Egan at the facility we do

801
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 2: the show, it's just this guy's climbing a freaking Mountain

802
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Speaker 2: here trying to balance the McCarthy side of things and

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Speaker 2: then the entire rest of the franchise on the other

804
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 2: end of it. I just wonder where the where the

805
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 2: coaches head is at it with this adventure.

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00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 6: Well, and here's the reality. And this goes back to

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00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 6: March when there was a question as to what they

808
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 6: were going to do with Sam Donald, there was a

809
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 6: question to what they were going to do with Daniel Jones.

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00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 6: And I know from talking to people who were involved

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Speaker 6: in the overall discussions, there wasn't a clear sense of

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00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 6: who was making the decision as to what was going

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00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 6: to happen. And we just assume that Kevin O'Connell made

814
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Speaker 6: the decision. I don't know that he made the decision.

815
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 6: I don't know who made the decision to let Sam

816
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Speaker 6: Donald go. I don't know whom man made the decision

817
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 6: to let Daniel Jones go. I don't know who made

818
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 6: the decision to move forward with a guy who was

819
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 6: a work in progress, with a team that was good

820
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 6: enough to get to the brink of the number one

821
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Speaker 6: seed last year. But that's the decision that was made,

822
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Speaker 6: and O'Connell's the one who's expected to make chicken salad

823
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 6: out of it on the fly, one week at a time,

824
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 6: one game at a time, complicated by the fact that

825
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 6: the quarterback got injured in Week two and has missed

826
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 6: multiple games and continues to get banged around from time

827
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 6: to time, and that continues to be one of the

828
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 6: key ingredients in becoming a franchise quarterback. You've got to

829
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 6: be available far more often than you're not to ever

830
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 6: earn that label. You got to be on the field

831
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Speaker 6: to make the kind of throws and win the kind

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00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 6: of games that we'll get people to say, there's a

833
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 6: top ten guy, there's a top five guys. So O'Connell, Hey,

834
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Speaker 6: he got his extension. He took his extension. He didn't

835
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Speaker 6: have to take the extension. There was a lot of

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Speaker 6: talk last year, and I don't know how much of

837
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 6: it was leverage or PR, but there was a lot

838
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 6: of talk last year that if I don't get my extension,

839
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 6: I'm just going to finish my contract and become a

840
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 6: coaching free agent, something we rarely ever see. But that

841
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 6: got in the deal. He took the deal. So now

842
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 6: this is the hand that he has accepted. It isn't

843
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 6: the hand he was dealt. He knew what the cards

844
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Speaker 6: were when he decided to stick around, so I assume

845
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 6: he has a plan. But at the end of the day,

846
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 6: he's not out there on the field making the plays happen,

847
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 6: and we're never going to be privy to what the

848
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 6: private thoughts and communications are. He's going to protect the

849
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 6: team as all coaches should do, but you have to

850
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 6: wonder what's going on behind the curtain and what the

851
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 6: conversations are about the future. And I think it would

852
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 6: be naive and it would be foolish for the organization

853
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 6: to not be asking themselves the tough question of did

854
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Speaker 6: we make a mistake and if we did, what are

855
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Speaker 6: we going to do about it? And I think the

856
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 6: first thing they can do about it is protect themselves

857
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 6: against the possibility that the mistake continues if it is

858
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 6: a mistake in the next year, by having the most

859
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 6: viable veteran presence they can who can step in in

860
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Speaker 6: play either because of injury or and effectiveness.

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Speaker 2: That's Mike Florio, Pro Football Talkprofootballtalk dot Com, books, TV

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Speaker 2: six operation. I got to figure out how to, you know,

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Speaker 2: sell an idea of a victory in the Border battle.

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Speaker 2: Bears just beat us, but they're seven wins including our

867
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Speaker 2: l nineteen forty seven and one from a win loss perspective,

868
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 2: the seven teams they've beaten, so belief makes them dangerous.

869
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 2: But are they a factor? I still think the Lions

870
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:31,439
Speaker 2: are the class of the North.

871
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Speaker 6: What do you think, Well, it's stunning that the Lions

872
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 6: are six and four. It's one of those where when

873
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 6: you see their current record, you have to look at

874
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 6: it and say, wait a minute, that is that a mistake.

875
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 6: They're six and four. They've lost twice as many games

876
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 6: as they lost in twenty twenty four. But it's the reality,

877
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 6: and the Bears have gotten themselves into great positions. Starting

878
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 6: zero to two, getting thumped by the Lions in Detroit

879
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 6: fifty two to twenty one. They've gone seven and one

880
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 6: since then. Now, some of those games rap it out

881
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 6: of the hat. Twenty five to twenty four, identical scores

882
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 6: against the Raiders and the Commanders, games that easily could

883
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 6: have gone either way. The Commanders were getting ready to

884
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 6: ice that game until the wet ball popped off of

885
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Speaker 6: Jaden Daniels hands as he was trying to execute a

886
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 6: handoff at a time when it felt like the Commanders

887
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 6: were going to win that game. So the Bears are

888
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 6: in great position, but at the same time, we have

889
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 6: to be cognizant of what's coming up. Steelers coming to

890
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Speaker 6: town this weekend. I don't care if it's Aaron Rodgers

891
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Speaker 6: or Mason Rudolph or Will Howard or Terry Bradshaw playing quarterback.

892
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Speaker 6: The Steelers are going to be a tough team for

893
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Speaker 6: the Bears to beat, regardless of where they play that game.

894
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Speaker 6: Then they're at the Eagles for the Black Friday game,

895
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Speaker 6: They're at the Packers, they play the Packers again, they

896
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Speaker 6: have a game against the Lions, they go to the

897
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Speaker 6: forty nine Ers week seventeen. They've got some tough games

898
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Speaker 6: coming up, and you know, it's one thing to pull

899
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Speaker 6: out a late victory against a lesser team. You get

900
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 6: yourself behind late against an elite team, it's a much

901
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 6: tougher teach to pool that victory from the jaws of

902
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 6: the seed. And we could see a correction coming from

903
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 6: the Bears as soon as this Sunday, especially if Rodgers

904
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Speaker 6: gets a chance to go back to Soldier field one

905
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 6: last time, and I don't know if he's going to

906
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Speaker 6: play or not with the fracture in his wrist, and

907
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 6: Mike Tomlin was non committal about it yesterday, but they

908
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 6: haven't closed the door on Rogers playing. You know, Rogers

909
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 6: is going to want to play that game, and you

910
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 6: know he's going to want to win that game with

911
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 6: the team that he has claimed for years he owns.

912
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: Hey, I just refreshed your website and saw that piece

913
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 2: that you put out this morning. You mentioned it mac

914
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Speaker 2: Jones could become Minnesota's JJ McCarthy insurance policy in twenty

915
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: twenty six. Now people can go to the website and

916
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 2: read it. But Mac Jones in particular is Rock Purdy

917
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 2: returns the NFC West is super fascinating to me from

918
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 2: Shanahan well coached team dealing with QB injury and pushing

919
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 2: forward and they're getting healthier, getting better. Rams. We got

920
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 2: an MVP candidate in Stafford with the defense is even

921
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 2: better than Vikings. Fans felt the brunt of in the

922
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 2: nine sacks last year against them in Arizona, and then

923
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 2: Darnold's doing his thing in Seattle like that division is stacked.

924
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 6: Man Well and one of the reasons why the division

925
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 6: is thriving is one of the reasons why the NFC

926
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Speaker 6: North last year had three playoff teams who kind of

927
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 6: ran rough shot. It's that weird reality of the schedule

928
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 6: where eight of your seventeen games every year are determined

929
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Speaker 6: by a rotation through the four divisions of the other

930
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 6: conference and the three other divisions of your own conference.

931
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Speaker 6: And that lined up just perfectly this year for the

932
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Speaker 6: teams of the AFC West, and they get eight games,

933
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Speaker 6: eight winnable games against the teams of the AFC South,

934
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Speaker 6: and I think they play the four teams of the

935
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Speaker 6: NFC South this year. That's almost half of your schedule,

936
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Speaker 6: bad with games that you look at and say, okay,

937
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Speaker 6: we can go six and two. So what it does.

938
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Speaker 6: It doesn't change the race in the division, but it

939
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 6: does give the forty nine ers an edge because they

940
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 6: got the fourth place, which gives them three easier games

941
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 6: than the Rams are getting at the top of the schedule.

942
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 6: But it gives all those teams a better shot at

943
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 6: stealing one of the wild cards. And I won't be

944
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 6: surprised if we see Ram, Seahawks, forty nine Ers all

945
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 6: in the playoffs, just like we saw Lions, Vikings, Packers

946
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 6: all in the playoffs last year.

947
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you there, hey last thing and

948
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 2: it's kind of off NFL though, But Dion Sanders, I

949
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 2: saw you put something out, you know, health issues, the kids,

950
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 2: Star and Travis Hunter are gone. The Buffs record is awful.

951
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 2: They're like three and seven, three and eight, I forget,

952
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 2: but bad record and all. How long do you think

953
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 2: Dion might be getting to a point with all this

954
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 2: health stuff, not having Shaduur and such there that maybe

955
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 2: he just says I got a chill, like I got

956
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: to take care of myself and maybe end this. You

957
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 2: think that's imminent or a possibility that Dion just says

958
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: I'm getting out of the spotlight for good.

959
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 6: There's already some talk swirling that he could retire after

960
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 6: the season. Now that's hardly high level dot com acting.

961
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 6: It's fairly obvious that that's got to be on the

962
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 6: table when you consider he's dealt with bladder cancer and

963
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 6: he continues to have other health issues that impact the

964
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 6: ability to go out there and really go all in

965
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 6: as a head coach. But he said yesterday that they've

966
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 6: got the right man for the job, and he's signed

967
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Speaker 6: through twenty twenty nine. He got a five year, fifty

968
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Speaker 6: four million dollar extension after the twenty twenty four season,

969
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Speaker 6: so you know, it could be that after next year,

970
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Speaker 6: or maybe during next year the Buffalo's decide to be

971
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 6: the latest program to bite a multi million dollar bullet

972
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Speaker 6: and then move on. But yeah, I hey, it all

973
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 6: comes down to players, and college football has been revolutionized

974
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 6: by the transfer portal. You've got to be able to

975
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 6: not just attract potentially highly talented players out of high

976
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 6: school every year, you've got to be able to jump

977
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Speaker 6: in there and get kids who want to come play

978
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 6: for you. And I think it's important for any team

979
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 6: that wants to be successful in the transfer to send

980
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 6: a clear message that the coach is going to be here.

981
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 6: Dion's going to be here, and then the challenge becomes,

982
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 6: can you go out and get enough great players to

983
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 6: come play for you. It's disappointing, frankly that the buzz

984
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 6: created by Dion's arrival in twenty twenty three, and look,

985
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 6: they went four and eight, but that buzz, that intensity,

986
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 6: that notion of rebirth between that and last year, that

987
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 6: that hasn't resulted in a sufficiently talented team to be

988
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Speaker 6: on the right side of five hundred. That that's a concern,

989
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 6: and so we just see where it goes. But you know,

990
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 6: there's still that weird and I get emails about this

991
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 6: all the time, that this notion that Dion's gonna end

992
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 6: up coaching his son in Cleveland, Like, I don't put

993
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 6: anything past Jimmy Haslam, But at the same time, that

994
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 6: seems extremely far fetched. I think the real question is

995
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 6: whether or not he chooses to walk away after this season.

996
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Speaker 6: Based on what he said yesterday, it sounds like he isn't.

997
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,919
Speaker 6: But he wouldn't be the first coach who said into

998
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Speaker 6: a microphone one thing and then secretly had a different plan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think I think you're on the right

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Speaker 2: track there. Hey, thanks as always for your time, man,

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Speaker 2: I really appreciate it and terrific work is always. We'll

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Speaker 2: have you on with PA again next week.

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Speaker 6: I hope, all right, see you pal, have good week

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Speaker 6: you too.

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Speaker 2: That's Mike Florio Pro Football talkprofootballtalk dot Com. It's father

1006
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1007
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Speaker 2: got all these books, got the podcast, got the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: Go to the website Pro footballtalk dot com when we returned.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of websites, how about Start Tribune, the Minnesota Star

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Speaker 2: Tribune and Ben Gesling, who covers the vikings for said tribune.

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