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Speaker 1: stop stop, just stop. Stop in the name of love.

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Speaker 1: Just stop. Already first home team since two thousand and

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Speaker 1: that and the airmailing of the passes and immortality stopping

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Speaker 1: stop in the name of love. Welcome to nine to Noon.

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Speaker 1: The Order Producers, master mixer Monday Montage impeccable, and I'm

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Speaker 1: Paul Allen. You know, into the season. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what triggered me to think of this last night, but

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Speaker 1: into the twenty twenty five Minnesota Vikings football season, yours

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Speaker 1: truly said, I expect the twenty twenty five Minnesota Vikings

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Speaker 2: I think it was in the spirit of a good team,

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Speaker 1: Well. There also was a side of to whom much

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Speaker 1: I find this to be fair. The qualifier was that

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Speaker 1: My expectations have not changed. If most of the guys

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Speaker 1: And and and along. We're both parents, all right. There.

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Speaker 1: Now we're talking about mad producer and yours truly God's

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Wild Wings Lakeville this week. See all there. The

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Speaker 1: to get a stop. We're going to go win this game.

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Speaker 1: We're going to go to five and four. I just

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Speaker 1: wonder if really that and that is yesterday's individual circumstance,

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Speaker 1: given it's the first touchdown you scored in three and

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Speaker 1: a half quarters and the quarterback was five of twelfth

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Speaker 1: rowing in the fourth. Yeah, if the two point try

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Speaker 1: was the right idea, I mean, it's twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 1: so therefore, no matter which side you're on, it requires

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Speaker 1: banging a fist down on four micah and making the

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Speaker 1: people on the other side of the conversation feel dumb.

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Speaker 1: Quite honestly, I could go either way on this thing,

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Speaker 1: because I don't mind the aggressive approach, and this team

441
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: has been good at two point conversions the last three

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Speaker 1: and a half years. They don't do it often, but

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Speaker 1: when they do, it's pretty good. But was it the

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Speaker 1: right time yesterday? So I can hear all about that

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Speaker 1: talkback machine if you're interested. Thirteen penalties, yeah, minus three

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Speaker 1: in the take give fans leaving early all negative butt,

447
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Speaker 1: which of course means and just think about this, if

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Speaker 1: everything we just shared, thirteen penalties minus three and the

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Speaker 1: take give fans leaving early, that of course means they're

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Speaker 1: gonna win on Sunday. Slow the Bears stand to feed

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Speaker 1: in the division, and the kid quarterback will manage the

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Speaker 1: game wonderfully, win, lose, win, lose bad, good, bad good, win,

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Speaker 1: lose win, lose bad, good, bad good. I mean that's

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Speaker 1: just like after the after the Chargers game, I mean,

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Speaker 1: ninety four percent of the football loving world gave the

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings minimal if no chance at the Motor City

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Speaker 1: Davy because of what everybody just saw. Likewise, for yesterday

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Speaker 1: there it wasn't La Chargers bad, but thirteen penalties, eight

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Speaker 1: fall starts and the minus three and the take give. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that will leave a mental mark, so to speak. So

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Speaker 1: a lot of people will be down on them into

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Speaker 1: the Bears game. And if it's if it's the way

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Speaker 1: the inconsistency of the twenty twenty five Minnesota Viking season

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Speaker 1: has gone to this point, of course, they win Sunday,

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Speaker 1: Hoping Bernards shoulder is okay. Kevin O'Connell is a press

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Speaker 1: conference later today, maybe an update on that. Plus Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Grenard joins the Power Trip each and every Tuesday morning

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Speaker 1: in the eight o'clock hour. That's one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: segments on KFA, and during the course of the week,

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Speaker 1: look forward to that hoping that shoulders. Okay, we need

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Speaker 1: to start grabbing some interceptions and four and six heading

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Speaker 1: to Lambeau then the Cappuccino capital. That ain't what the

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Speaker 1: doctor ordered. Because to who much is given, much is expected.

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Speaker 1: And the fixing of problems and the challenges associated with

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Speaker 1: raising a kid quarterback, well that's all part of the

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Speaker 1: to who much is given, much as expected. So we'll

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Speaker 1: see what happens Sunday at noon.

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Speaker 6: Hey, guys, plenty of things to criticize on nine. And

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Speaker 6: he did not obviously play a great game, but he

480
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Speaker 6: didn't get a lot of help, and there was some

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Speaker 6: real embarrassing moments from other veterans. But I think what's

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Speaker 6: important to keep in mind is JJ maintained his composure,

483
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Speaker 6: He hustled his butt off until the last play of

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Speaker 6: the game, and most importantly, there was no semblance of

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Speaker 6: finger pointing, and he put the loss on his shoulders.

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Speaker 1: That's mark. I'm a really good leader, so let's stick

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Speaker 1: with him. And I agree with every facet of that talk.

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Speaker 1: Back in JJ McCarthy's postcame press conference yesterday, yours truly

489
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Speaker 1: was in attendance, and I was curious to see what

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Speaker 1: the young man's demeanor was going to be like his

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Speaker 1: level of sadness, his level of contrition, and his level

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Speaker 1: of reality when it comes to He's not the first

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Speaker 1: bally Hood highly drafted quarterback through four starts to struggles

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Speaker 1: like this. We chronicled some of the moments in the

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Speaker 1: first segment of nine to Noon today. He indeed handled

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Speaker 1: things with a plumb and we'll just leave it at

497
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Speaker 1: that and see what happens against beloved Bjay's defense.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Paul and Nordo just got a question regarding the

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Speaker 5: last few weeks in the Vikings and Kevin O'Connell's play

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Speaker 5: calling choices. Why does he abandon the run so quickly?

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Speaker 4: I mean over forty pass attempts and we were averaging

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Speaker 4: I think it was definitely over five yards per carry.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how much longer this team can be

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Speaker 4: successful to keep abandoning the run.

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Speaker 1: Nordo, you want to handle that one well. I just

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Speaker 1: when we could JJ's ups and downs.

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Speaker 2: I think, as you noted, whether it's the first four

508
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Speaker 2: starts of other players or just raising a kid on

509
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Speaker 2: the fly. Not a mandate, but the predictive bet of

510
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Speaker 2: a team going to the playoffs and winning a game.

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Speaker 2: We heard kind of the terminology from from a Dan

512
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Speaker 2: Orlovski a few weeks ago when he was talking about

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Speaker 2: kind of the disappointing aspects of this team, and he

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Speaker 2: noted that, you know, kind of the idea that this

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Speaker 2: was a quarterback independent roster, So some of the things

516
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Speaker 2: that go into that relates to complimentary football. So defensively,

517
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Speaker 2: this is a team that was tied to top the

518
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Speaker 2: NFL in takeaways last year, and I think the team

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Speaker 2: ended the year like plus eleven plus twelve in the

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Speaker 2: take gift, And you can actually kind of, to be

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Speaker 2: honest with you, and this one at four and five

522
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Speaker 2: is trending that way.

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Speaker 1: When you see the team winning.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen and fourteen games two of the first three years,

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Speaker 2: you're seeing a team on the good side of the

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Speaker 2: take give twenty twenty three and right now twenty twenty

527
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Speaker 2: five bad side of the take gift.

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Speaker 1: The vikings are thirty three and five when Kevin O'Connell

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Speaker 1: wins or pushes the take give, and I would imagine

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Speaker 1: as not just with KO, but maybe just about every

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Speaker 1: other coach in the history of the game. When you're

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Speaker 1: on the wrong side of that, your record is probably

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Speaker 1: the inverse part of it. Ye, to that end, the

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Speaker 1: running game is part of the complementary nature of this

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Speaker 1: football team, and so was is it ever going to

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Speaker 1: be fifty to fifty in totality? Absolutely not, we get that,

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Speaker 1: but the balance part of it and such a significant focus.

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Speaker 1: You know, we can go back in time and I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to do it would take forever, but we

540
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Speaker 1: can find all the segments that we talked about from

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Speaker 1: the spring, through free agency, post draft, throughout the summer

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Speaker 1: that a really important aspect once JJ McCarthy takes the

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Speaker 1: field is the exciting tandem, the efficiency potentially the explosion involved,

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Speaker 1: but certainly the productivity of not just an upgraded offsive

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Speaker 1: line interior, but the combination of Jordan Mason and Aaron

546
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Speaker 1: Jones and what that meant to the development of JJ

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Speaker 1: For a team that was built to be competitive and

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Speaker 1: contend right now, one aspect of that was going to

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Speaker 1: be good run game, help protect the kid as we

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Speaker 1: raise him on the fly, and you just you do

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Speaker 1: see it consistently in games. Specifically yesterday, we're starting out

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Speaker 1: first first downs with eleven yard twelve yard runs like

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Speaker 1: it was fantastic At times. I think the team ran

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Speaker 1: it seven times, and this is just a I think

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Speaker 1: it was five scrambles for McCarthy thirteen carries combined for

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Speaker 1: the backs. As important as it was in that win,

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Speaker 1: by the way, before he got hurt, the platform that

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Speaker 1: JJ could work from when you got all that explosion,

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Speaker 1: the catch and run and all those things that Aaron

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Speaker 1: Jones was doing. That first third down conversion, the catch

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Speaker 1: that was labeled to run, et cetera. How important that

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Speaker 1: was to the game.

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Speaker 2: You saw moments with Jones yesterday, including op but in

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Speaker 2: drive you get the five yard score, beautiful excellent fishing

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Speaker 2: in the red zone, boom one for one. Vikings take

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Speaker 2: the lead, dig it and then he does deviate away.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not going to go through the game log

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Speaker 2: of yesterday play by play. I actually I'm not offended.

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Speaker 2: We talked about it last night. I'm fan line the

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Speaker 2: third and one and he throws it deep justin Jefferson falls.

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Speaker 2: It's an interception. I mean, take that shot. You get

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Speaker 2: one on one with the superstar.

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 2: And then he mentioned in the press conference as well,

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Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell I was going to go for it on

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Speaker 2: fourth down regardless of the results. So he kind of

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Speaker 2: explains that was two down territory for the team. That's

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Speaker 2: the mindset. We're right at midfield. Sad circumstance with the

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Speaker 2: kid falling down on the back end of it. I do,

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Speaker 2: I do want to see this team with a better

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Speaker 2: commitment to the run. I am not an offensive play

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Speaker 2: calling genius. So in terms of specific points, the flow,

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Speaker 2: the feel of the game, we had him on the

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Speaker 2: ground yesterday. We had him on the ground yesterday if

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Speaker 2: we want him. Implementary aspect of it is that either

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Speaker 2: instead of punting or scoring in two minutes, you keep

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Speaker 2: that team on that offense on the field for six

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Speaker 2: seven minutes in a scoring drive, and you keep the

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Speaker 2: defense not having to deal with Lamar and Dereck Henry

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Speaker 2: off the field for six and seven minutes.

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Speaker 1: So it's never going to be fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 2: But I think yesterday was a great opportunity to show

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Speaker 2: the true nature of balance where kids make mistakes. But

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Speaker 2: you were super productive nearly six yards of carry for

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Speaker 2: the most part from your backs. You had an opportunity

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Speaker 2: to keep the pressure off the kid a little bit

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Speaker 2: and move the chains on the ground, and I was disappointed.

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Speaker 2: I just think you know as we raise the kid

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Speaker 2: game by game, there will be certain circumstances. Forty two

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Speaker 2: attempts for the kid in his fourth game is not

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Speaker 2: a winning formula. I just don't see that as a

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Speaker 2: winning formula, neither for the kid nor the offense in general.

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Speaker 2: So yes, running the ball, I think is part of

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Speaker 2: the complementary nature of this team, the roster, the predictive

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Speaker 2: bet that we are not seeing maybe to the level

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Speaker 2: that we should be.

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Speaker 1: There's a reason I deferred the question. And as part

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Speaker 1: of everything that we just heard through nine games, it

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Speaker 1: is fair to note the best of the two running

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Speaker 1: backs did not play in five and a half of them.

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Speaker 1: So how much does that change during the course of

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Speaker 1: that month and change? Yeah, well, of course it changes

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Speaker 1: on the offensive line combinations we've talked about too. Yeah right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, those are the details. The over archer is

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Speaker 1: a three and a half year take that many have

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Speaker 1: had regarding the head coach, the twenty twenty four coach

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Speaker 1: of the years approach to run and pass. The reason

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Speaker 1: I deferred is I can't answer the question. I'm just

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Speaker 1: going to be straight with I have no idea because

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to look for. How to look for.

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Speaker 1: But I can count at boxes with the best of them.

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Speaker 1: I can, you know, as an outsider, I can look

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Speaker 1: at game flow, I can look at series after series.

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Speaker 1: I can watch all all twenty two anybody ever wants

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Speaker 1: me to watch. And I can't explain why coach or

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Speaker 1: coach is do certain things at certain times that fly

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Speaker 1: in the face of what people think they should do.

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Speaker 1: But that's not just here. For instance, if you, if you,

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Speaker 1: if you do some deep diving into the Miami upset

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Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills, well you're gonna you're you're gonna

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Speaker 1: read reaction from a lot of Bills fans complaining they

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Speaker 1: don't pass enough. And then you're going to read Sean McDermott,

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Speaker 1: their coach, throwing his hands in the air, palms to

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Speaker 1: the sky, basically being like, we need to pass better,

635
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Speaker 1: we need to pass more. I don't know what's happening

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Speaker 1: right now, but we're here to fix it. So it's something.

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Speaker 1: It's something everywhere in the same fishbowl, but under different rocks,

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Speaker 1: and it all involves media slash fan opinions about how

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Speaker 1: they believe things should go. And that's great, that's fantastic

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Speaker 1: because guess what if they didn't have an opinion, then

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Speaker 1: nobody would come to the games, nobody would care, nobody

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Speaker 1: would listen, nobody would watch. They care. These opinions are

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Speaker 1: born of caring. But I deferred because I've thought it out.

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Speaker 1: I've looked at a lot of stuff. I've chatted with

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Speaker 1: people behind the scenes a little bit. I can't explain it.

646
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Speaker 1: I don't know what goes into setting up plays, running

647
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 1: plays that you potentially may be setting something up for later.

648
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: There's just so much, there's so much layering to it. Yeah,

649
00:41:54,080 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: that okay, third and one when they threw and like

650
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: Nordo said, the coach said, well, you know we were

651
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: going to run on fourth down or we were going

652
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: to go for it and for it and didn't get

653
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: the opportunity. All right, Well, I mean what did Baltimore

654
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: do around the line of scrimmage? I mean how many

655
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 1: were there nine players around there? And was the average

656
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: weight of those players two hundred and eighty seven and

657
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: a half pounds? And are you going to run wide

658
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: away from Kyle Hamilton and or Malachi Starks who may

659
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: or may not have been on the edge, or are

660
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 1: you going to take on John Jenkins and Travis Jones,

661
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: and it combined six hundred and seventy five and a

662
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,919
Speaker 1: half pounds of beef right up the middle. Yeah sure great?

663
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Speaker 1: Or don't Yeah, sure great. That's that's That's why to

664
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Speaker 1: who much is given, much is expected. They're compensated to

665
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: do that job and make those decisions, and make those

666
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: decisions in real time, and make those decisions without the

667
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: ability to look back and second guess. What they do

668
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: is they look back and not second guess, but correct

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00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: if they feel mistakes were made. So that's why I deferred.

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Speaker 1: I can't. I can't answer the question. I just don't

671
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Speaker 1: know what to say.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm not a coach and I've never designed

673
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 2: an offensive game plan. But again, I think at a

674
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: base level, my head is absolutely right along with any

675
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 2: listener or anybody that's questioning, hey, why didn't we run here?

676
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: I don't have an answer.

677
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: As to why in particular situations. I truly believe at

678
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 2: a base level, we cannot see forty two attempts, thirty

679
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: five attempts. We can't see that from the kid QB

680
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: and go down the road that you were talking about

681
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 2: where we can raise the QB.

682
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: We have a talented roster.

683
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 2: The dogs save for the new center, are healthy and

684
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 2: we can compete and still contend for a playoff spot.

685
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 2: Totally with you, but the complimentary aspect, when you take

686
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 2: that away in terms of the run game, I think

687
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 2: you're going to have problems in a big way.

688
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: And agree and so yeah, I agree, But my point

689
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: would be, and why I defer things like that is

690
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Speaker 1: I just want to know where it stops, like what,

691
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 1: why are why are certain players being targeted X amount

692
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: of times when others are wide open? Right? Why? Okay,

693
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: so so? Now the next It just it can never

694
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: stop if you just keep going down that road. Why

695
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: was so and so in the game when he's in

696
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: the game defensively and they run for six seven a carry,

697
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: but when he's out of the game they run for

698
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: three to four. Well, he's in the game and they

699
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: just ran for nine. Does that mean somebody needs to

700
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: be fired? No, that means a correction needs to take place.

701
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: So it's just it's just that that I it's it's

702
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: it's like that two point try thing. It's like, I

703
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: agree philosophically with some things, but I want to hear

704
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 1: the context laid out for to get me over the hump.

705
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: I like how you put it. We got a pause,

706
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 1: we got burst it around the corner. I like how

707
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: you put it a little bit earlier. And if you

708
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: take the totality from play one twenty twenty two to

709
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: final play right now twenty twenty five, well, there's an

710
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: organic feel that you can get without analyzing minutia of

711
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: who's hurt, how many offensive line combinations? Is CJ blocking

712
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: as the quarterback executing play action? What are the safety's

713
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: doing right before the snap? Was that a six man

714
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: box and it ended up being a nine man box?

715
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 1: All of that, it's you can look at the total.

716
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: Like the first year O'Connell was the head coach, they

717
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: threw sixty percent of the sixty one percent of the time.

718
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: The offense was the bomb. The offense was the absolute bomb. Yeah.

719
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Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook went for well over one thousand scrimmage yards.

720
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Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah, he was six run NFL with twelve

721
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: and change on the ground alone. Yeah, he's running and catching, yep,

722
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: but percentage wise it may not have been enough for

723
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 1: some people. He was the home run hitter, So I mean, okay,

724
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: why and then the next season, all right, well not

725
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: running enough? Cool? You should run more. You got Dobs

726
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: and you got Jaron Hall and the quarterback and run

727
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: and there's just so much to it that that's why

728
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: I you know, I'm sorry to heap that on you.

729
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 1: It's when the talkback came in, I thought a lot

730
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Speaker 1: about it. I can't answer the question.

731
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I just remember in twenty twenty two it's

732
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Speaker 2: there was there's you you mentioned, like, for instance, in

733
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 2: yesterday's game, why certain people were being targeted. Why weren't

734
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 2: there were open guys that were missed there there's the

735
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 2: other side of this too, by the way, the coach

736
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: when he schemes some of these plays, the guys are open.

737
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: When the kid QB was when he was sailing balls yesterday,

738
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: he had one to Jade Jefferson on the boundary that

739
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 2: was almost identical to that out route far hash boundary

740
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 2: throw that he aced at Ford Field and complete, and

741
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 2: he just completely ruined it.

742
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Speaker 1: Yes made a mess of it. And I don't know

743
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: yesterday exactly so, but I think you know, no, no,

744
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I do understand it, and so do you.

745
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: Because it's not the first it's not the first time

746
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: it's happened to a quarter back in his first four starts. True, yes,

747
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: now that may be the example here Lamar kept dropping it.

748
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: There were a couple where just he like dropped the

749
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: ball and hit his knee and bumble lost. Fran Tarkentin

750
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: is Hall of Fame or one touchdown, six picks his

751
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: first four games. I don't know what happened there. May

752
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: maybe was sailing them over Bobby Richards, but anyway.

753
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 2: But I just think so in a vacuum, each of

754
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 2: those games will have those moments, the inconsistencies of it.

755
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: Why did this happen?

756
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 2: There is a trend over the course of Kevin O'Connell's

757
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 2: tenure in terms of percentage of running the ball certain

758
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 2: spots specifically maybe some third and shorts. We can dig

759
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 2: into those numbers, but that's exhausting. Just in the end,

760
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 2: I think to protect the kid and to continue to

761
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: raise on the fly with the competitive nature that you're

762
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 2: talking about, I know, Jamame, I think there has to

763
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 2: be you know, whatever that commitment looks like, it sounds

764
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 2: weird as an outsider saying it. There has to be

765
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: some some push to make sure that everything's right with three,

766
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 2: three and two seven in the backfield.

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Speaker 1: Let's keep those cats involved. I like that and a

768
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: term nine to noon created years ago plays into this too.

769
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: Competitive arrogance are our head coach is competitively arrogant And

770
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 1: that is not a negative term. That means that the

771
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: arrogance part of it is my stuff is proving out

772
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 1: to be better than your stuff. I will get them

773
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: open and they will hit them well when they don't

774
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: hit them. And you know, that's why the two point

775
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: try terrorism, that's why you know when you and I

776
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: were texting during fanline yesterday, it's I'm like, what's with

777
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: all this two point try stuff? I mean, in eight

778
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: goes to a six, So you get the two, you

779
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: stop them, you go win the game. Well, that's the

780
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: competitively arrogant. That is the competitively proven way to handle

781
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: a game at home when you're when you're four and

782
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: four trying to go to five and four, or is

783
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 1: it when you haven't scored a touchdown in three and

784
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: a half quarters and your quarterbacks five of twelve in

785
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: that quarter and was was tooth and nail on fourth

786
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: down to just get the next touchdown. Maybe you know

787
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 1: feel that moment, Maybe it's maybe it's a different decision

788
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: in that spot. Yeah, So that's why like I can hear,

789
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: I can hear either side of it. And same thing

790
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 1: with that talkback is the running plays are good. So yes, okay,

791
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: if they do it more and it works, great, But

792
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: it also can't be disputed that if you watch back

793
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: things that took place yesterday, whether it's TV copy replays

794
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: or all twenty two, they were wide open all over

795
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: the field. They were open all over the field. Kid

796
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: missed them and or didn't see them and held it

797
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: a long time because new quarterbacks hold the ball a

798
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: long time and they're indecisive. And he's not the first

799
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 1: to be that, and he won't be the last. We'll

800
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: be right back