1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: Although I will give you plugs. He runs a company 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: called day Trade Fun where he can teach you how 3 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: to trade stocks. I turn my car on yesterday. I mean, 4 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: I'm in the towers of Kenwood Building and I have 5 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: this little sat NAV map and it shows up right 6 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: next to my radio setting and I'm sitting there and 7 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: the little bubble that points up it's a day Trade 8 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: Fun on it. I'm like, what, how did that pop up? 9 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 2: So like the officers are right there on the seventh floor. 10 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, but of all the offices in the building. I mean, 11 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: I heart media didn't show up or none of the 12 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: other It's just like it was channeling you Jay rat List. 13 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: Hey, your your car knows what's important. I know. Look, look, 14 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: my students had a good December. I think I made 15 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 2: thirty two or thirty three thousand dollars flipping stocks last month, 16 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: and in a spare time effort, so that that that's 17 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: just a reminder that you know, when you slow down, yeah, 18 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: flip a few stocks, and you know, fund your retirement. 19 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to get another earfull for my wife, who 20 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 1: has been just pleading with me to take you up 21 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: on your advice and do the class. 22 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: Somebody at least your car and your wife are on 23 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: my side. 24 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: That's exactly I'm on your side too, Jays. Anyhow, Jay Ratliffe, 25 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: apparently you had to file a lawsuit for Southwest Airlines 26 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: to provide the military leave for their pilots. 27 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very un Southwest Airlines like to be honest, 28 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: because of course every airline has a specific number of 29 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: days they give their their pilots and employees that have 30 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 2: military service, and Southwest Airlines actually had to be taken 31 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: to court by some pilots trying to get more days 32 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: as far as military paid time or paid or military 33 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: leave of absence, and there was a class action lawsuit 34 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: that was brought by some of the pilots and the 35 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: ruling came in that Southwest is a great now to 36 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: provide up to ten days of short term military leave 37 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: and pay up about almost nineteen million dollars in compensation 38 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: to twenty eight one hundred former employees who who weren't 39 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: able to you know, get a leave with pay where 40 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 2: they could end up serving their country. So it still 41 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: has to be approved by the government or by the courts. 42 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: And Brian, what we're hoping is if being the landmark decision. 43 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: It is that obviously that type of an arrangement would 44 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 2: kind of seep through to the other airlines where we 45 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: would see that. I would like to see more, but 46 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: at least having that as a basis, I think is 47 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 2: a good starting point. And look, a lot of this 48 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 2: is negotiated in the contracts as well, because when the 49 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: pilot union and the airlines are bouncing back and forth 50 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: as far as the compensation and benefit levels for their 51 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,399 Speaker 2: contract they're negotiating. I am certain that this is a 52 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 2: component of that deal. Now I don't know that for sure, 53 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: but I've seen these these arrangements and they cover everything, 54 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 2: and I can't believe that those deals would be hammered 55 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: out absent of a provision that would apply to some 56 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: sort of military leave for the employees when it was. 57 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: Needed fair enough. Well, well, that loss you may have precedent, 58 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: as you say, going on FAA pualizing airlines who failed 59 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: to reduce flight operations during the shutdown as ordered. Well, 60 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 1: what's this, Jay Ratt left. 61 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: Well, they sent letters out this week to airlines saying, look, 62 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: we told you at forty airports that we needed you 63 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 2: to reduce the number of flights to a specific level, 64 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 2: and the Federal Aviation Administration has looked into it, Brian. 65 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: They found that not every airline did what they were 66 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: supposed to. So the letters that went out this this 67 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 2: week have shocker exactly. So right now, the FA says, look, 68 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: they sent the airlines that they are looking at a 69 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: letter saying you have thirty days to provide evidence in 70 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: essence you did what you did or we're supposed to 71 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: do complying with our orders violators. They are indicating risk 72 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 2: fines up to seventy five thousand dollars per flight that 73 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 2: was operated over that threshold, and they on to say, quote, 74 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: if we do not hear from you within that specified time, 75 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: our report will be processed without the benefit of your statement. 76 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: So I like the fact that the FAA is looking 77 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: at coming down hard. Now here's what's going to happen. 78 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: They'll find a number of airlines that had a whole 79 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: bunch of flights that probably were above that threshold, and 80 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 2: the FAA will propose a very hefty and I think 81 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 2: well deserved fine. We will then later see that that 82 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: fine was negotiated down by these same airlines with a 83 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: deal with the government that probably says if we don't 84 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: do it again. Blah blah blah. You know we have 85 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: to pay a fraction of that fine. Rare? Is it, 86 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: if ever, that the proposed fines from the Federal Aviation 87 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 2: Administration actually are imposed on the airlines. They're always negotiated 88 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 2: down And it just drives me crazy because I'm thinking, 89 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: what's the incentive here for airlines to do what they're 90 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,799 Speaker 2: supposed to if they know that they can skirt the rules, 91 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: get away with it, and pay a fraction of a 92 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 2: fine that might be coming their way. 93 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: All right, simple enough, easily stay. That's what we get 94 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: from my Heart Media Aviation expert Jay Ratliffe coming up. 95 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: That does not fly. If you have Parkinson's real ID 96 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: and the TSA new travel record, we'll talk with that. 97 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: Plus get a hub delay with Jay Ratliffe in the 98 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: future segments. We've got a couple coming your way. Take 99 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: thirty five right now. If you have KRCD Talk station 100 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: fifty fifty five k Talk station. Have you ever been 101 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: in the cockpit before? Jay Rayless, He's iHeart Media Aviation Expert. 102 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: He joins fifty five CARC Morning Show for a few 103 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: segments every Thursday at this time. Real quick here I said, 104 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: it wasn't gonna throw your curve ball. But well, I 105 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: couldn't recall since you mentioned Southwest before, if we had 106 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: talked about this. They're now charging what they call plus 107 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: size passengers for them to have to buy a second 108 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: seat because I guess they're spilling over into the next seat. 109 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,559 Speaker 1: So is that something that's going to be a trend 110 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: into the future or Southwest going to be a loaner 111 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: on this, because I have heard, I mean, in my 112 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: life a lot of people complain about the spillover effect 113 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: when they're stuck on an airplane, and it can be 114 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: problematic for travelers, as. 115 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 2: I might imagine. Yeah, what's happened is if you know, 116 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: for decades, if you were of the size of passenger 117 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 2: that would require two seats, the airlines would charge you 118 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: for both seats. Sometimes they might charge you for one 119 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty percent or things of this nature, and 120 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: it really just depends the airline to airline. Now, Southwest 121 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: had a policy that in essence that if you were 122 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: a person that had to buy a second seat, that 123 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 2: there was a way that you could within a period 124 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: of time if the flight wasn't full or if there 125 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 2: were so many empty seats on board the flight that 126 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 2: you could actually request some sort of a partial refund 127 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 2: as far as because you know, it's it would be 128 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 2: bad if they charged you double and you get on 129 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 2: there and there's twelve people on the plane and you 130 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: know you've got all that you've got to road to yourself. 131 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 2: So they have changed some of that policy so that, 132 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 2: you know, in essence, makes it harder for people to 133 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 2: uh get that partial that that part port part of 134 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 2: partial refund back and you know, it's a departure from 135 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: what they have done before and they're making it a 136 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: little bit more difficult for people that require that second seat. So, uh, 137 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 2: this this policy is is kicked in and I think 138 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 2: it's next month, first of the year, and they've been 139 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 2: talking about it through the through the year with it 140 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 2: coming up. But you know, Brian, the seats are getting 141 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: smaller and the roads are getting more packed as far 142 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 2: as close together, and it makes it more and more 143 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: difficult for any person really to have a difficult time 144 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 2: being comfortable. And it's a it's a challenge and I've 145 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: had to tell people many times over the years at 146 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: the airport that you know, given the fact that the 147 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: seats are getting smaller, and you know, if you're a 148 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: larger bone person, is how I would normally phrase it, 149 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 2: that the only way you're going to be comfortable is 150 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: if you purchase that second seat. Now, for people that 151 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 2: have traveled a lot, that's certainly nothing that's really news 152 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: to them because they were recognize Okay, I've had to 153 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 2: do that before. And again the policy on how it's 154 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: how it's handled varies from airline to airline, but you 155 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 2: know it's at least Southwest is giving you the opportunity 156 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: to get a part of that second you know seat 157 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: money back, right, depending on how many seats are available 158 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 2: once the door has closed. But again you've got a 159 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 2: very tight window to request that, otherwise it becomes one 160 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: of these My favorite thing are the mail in rebates, 161 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: where we will overcharge you and then if you think 162 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 2: about it, you can send it in and we will 163 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 2: give your money back, knowing a good portion of that 164 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 2: population will not do it. I hate mail in rebase. 165 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, out with you on that. Have they revamped the 166 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: evacuation time? We've talked about that before. But you know, people, 167 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,839 Speaker 1: without question, statistically and I can just rely on that, 168 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: have gotten much much larger over the past decade or 169 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: two or three. But the ability to get the people 170 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: off of the plane, that's a little red flag for 171 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: me because I know it's a little more difficult to 172 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: evacuate a plane that's filled with maybe plus size folks 173 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: rather than you know, wights of people. 174 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: Well, the requirement is still ninety seconds. We have to 175 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: get everybody off the plane with half the ex's blocked, 176 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 2: and the FAA does tests from time to time to 177 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 2: make sure that we are maintaining that speed because if not, 178 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: then there's a problem, you have too many seats, or 179 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: you've just you've got to do something. So, you know, 180 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 2: shocker that every single time the fa has done this test, 181 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 2: we've been able to hit that ninety second evacuation mark. 182 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 2: Now you have to take a step into it and 183 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: kind of look a little closer to see that none 184 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 2: of the people that are used in the FAA approved 185 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 2: tests to make sure we hit that ninety seconds no 186 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 2: children of any kind, no service animals of any kind, 187 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 2: no elderly passengers of any kind. So when you start 188 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: looking at the types of passengers that are used to 189 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 2: make sure we hit the ninety seconds, it's not really 190 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 2: reflective of the traveling public. So there's been a lot 191 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 2: of people in Washington, d C. Who said, wait a minute, 192 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: time out here, we can't use this as the metric 193 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 2: if that's not the kind of people that fly. 194 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: On a normal basis. 195 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 2: So we need to have elderly, We need to have 196 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 2: people that are that have some sort of of a 197 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 2: physical disability, it would slow them down. We need children 198 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 2: traveling by themselves, you know, we need all of these 199 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 2: different components to really see if it's reflective of what 200 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: the actual emergency evacuation time would be. And Brian time 201 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: after time, the FAA is either play the crickets or 202 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 2: the last track. It's one of the two because they're 203 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 2: just they're just not moving in that direction. Because if 204 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 2: they did, and this really shows how much power the 205 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: airline industry has, then you've got to do two things. 206 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: You have to sell only a certain number of seats 207 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 2: to make sure in this revenue and there is the 208 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,719 Speaker 2: bottom line. Drives me crazy. Don't tell me safety is 209 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 2: are number one priority. 210 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: It's revenue and apparently don't fly if you have park 211 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: Sen's a sort of a thumbnail schedule this one and 212 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 1: tell him about it. 213 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, this was a Turkish Airlines flight. There was a 214 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 2: man and his son and the man is a correspondent 215 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 2: for BBC and he is flying from London to Issembul, Turkey, 216 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 2: and they go and they're on their way back and 217 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: as they check in at the gate, the man with 218 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 2: Parkinson's is exhibiting some of the tremors and the agent 219 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: looked at him and said, do you have a doctor's 220 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: note that says it's okay for you to fly and 221 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 2: that doctor's note has to be issued to you within 222 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 2: the last ten days. And the man said, no, I 223 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 2: mean I have Parkinson's, And the agent said, and the 224 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 2: agent was correct, it's on our website that if you 225 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 2: have Parkinson's you need to have that doctor's in essence permission, 226 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: that letter that you could show us. Now, he said, 227 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: on time out here, I flew here on you guys, 228 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 2: and nobody in London said anything, and he kept saying, 229 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 2: it's you know, it's Parkinson's, I mean what it's And 230 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 2: I don't understand, Obrien, because I don't know if any 231 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 2: other airline that has this as a posted policy. But 232 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 2: they would not let him fly, so we had to 233 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 2: wait another day, came back to London on another carrier, 234 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 2: and of course this has gone viral. Turkish Airlines, to 235 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 2: my last check, had not yet responded, but it's it's 236 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 2: on their website. It's there. It's a matter of policy 237 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 2: for the airlines. So it it just what what if 238 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 2: somebody has cancer they needed what have got this? I mean, 239 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: where would it end if if that was the case. 240 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: And the thing is that the gate you or a 241 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 2: ticket counter, you're you're trying to make sure that nobody 242 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 2: with a medical condition, maybe somebod who's nine and a 243 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 2: half months pregnant, gets on a plane, because that could 244 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: create a problem where you now have a medical emergency 245 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: in flight where you have to make a diverse, diverted landing, 246 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 2: which could put the passenger at risk. It's going to 247 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 2: cost the airline money and it's going to be an 248 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 2: inconvenience to the passengers, kind of in that order. So 249 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 2: if you spot something that could be a potential problem, 250 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 2: the airlines have these safety checks where agents are trained. 251 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 2: Don't let that person who appears to be inebriated on 252 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: board the airplane, or somebody who's picking a fight with 253 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 2: another passenger or whatever it might happen to be, so 254 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 2: that you leave the problem in the gate area at 255 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 2: the airport, and it doesn't get on the plane. That's 256 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 2: going to create an in flight problem. Parkinson's is nothing 257 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: that's going to create an in flight problem of any kind. 258 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: So that's why none of this makes sense. 259 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: Doesn't make any sense to me either. One more segment 260 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: with Jay Ratlift coming up. We're going to find out 261 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: about the real ID fee and apparently the TSA's got 262 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: a new record to talk about crow about that means profits? 263 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: I bet more with Jay Rattlift right up for these 264 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: brief words fifty five five ter CD talk station talking 265 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: aviation issues with aviation expert at Jay Rattliffe TSA Real 266 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 1: ID I saw this from coming. Apparently getting a real 267 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: ID is probably a good idea unless you got an 268 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: extra what forty bucks laying around? 269 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, forty five if it would be. And what's happened 270 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 2: is the real ID where we had to have. The 271 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: TSA approved driver's license took effect in early May, and 272 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 2: about ninety five percent of us have the new updated 273 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 2: approved TSA type driver's license that allow us to travel 274 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 2: using that as our identification. But there's still five percent 275 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 2: of the population that does not have that. They still 276 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 2: have a valid driver's license, but Brian has not yet 277 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 2: been upgraded to that real ID, a newer version, and 278 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: the TSA has since May tried to work with all 279 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 2: those passengers that have been flying with the non approved identification. 280 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 2: But what they're saying is as of February first, that's changing, 281 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 2: and they're really trying to encourage people to get the 282 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 2: new driver's license and just you know, less hassle when 283 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 2: you get to the airport. But what they're saying is 284 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 2: if you're gonna be traveling after February first, and you're 285 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: going to be using your current but not you know, 286 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 2: upgraded driver's license, you will be charged forty five dollars 287 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 2: to a essence use that you have to go online 288 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 2: to TSA dot gov, fill out the form application whatever, 289 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 2: pay the forty five dollars, and that's for every pass 290 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: and you're eighteen years of age and older. That's for 291 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 2: a ten day period of time. So that means if 292 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 2: you're heading out to Grandmall's on the West Coast and 293 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 2: you're gonna be there two weeks, you get to pay 294 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 2: that twice. Now, the thing that is going to be 295 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 2: super inconvenient here is if your family of six, you know, 296 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 2: shows up at the airport, You get in line, you're 297 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 2: ready to go, and they say, I'm sorry, we have 298 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: to have you step out of line, go online, fill 299 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 2: out the form, pay the forty five bucks per person, 300 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 2: get back in line, and then hopefully you'll make your flight. 301 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 2: So this is something you absolutely want to make sure 302 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,239 Speaker 2: of after February first. If you've got a valid passport 303 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 2: and you don't have the real ID driver's license, no problem, 304 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 2: use your valid passport for your identification. That's fine. In fact, 305 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 2: the TSA shows at TSA dot gov all the approved 306 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: different ident things you can use for identification when you fly. 307 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 2: But Brian, a number of people that are flying with 308 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 2: their the old driver's license is at a point where 309 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 2: it's really an inconvenience for the TSA to keep doing 310 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: what they've been doing, and it really makes the May 311 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: deadline a bit silly if you're still allowing people to fly. 312 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: So the TSA is saying, look, as of February first, 313 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 2: this is what we're going to be doing. Initially it 314 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 2: was going to be an eighteen dollars charge, but in 315 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: typical government fashion, it went up to forty five and 316 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 2: who knows, may go up even higher than that. So 317 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: the bottom line is, get that new driver's license. Get 318 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 2: it out of the way so you don't have to 319 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 2: worry about it, because I tell you a lot of 320 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: people are going to show up the airport and not 321 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 2: know that needs to be done in advance. 322 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: Well, perhaps it's forty five dollars because it will represent 323 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: enough money that people will relent and go to the 324 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: DMV and get the new license. 325 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you've got a family of four and you've 326 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 2: got to pay that four times. They're all at eighteen years. 327 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: I mean that you know, in some brate you might 328 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 2: be having airfares that are cheaper than that when you 329 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 2: look at the total prices. So the bottom line is 330 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 2: that it just knowing about it ahead of time means 331 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 2: you're not going to have that headache when you get 332 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 2: to the airport. We have plenty of time between now 333 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 2: in the first of February to fix whatever issue it is. 334 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 2: So what we're trying to do is avoid headaches for 335 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 2: people that might be flying, because when you get to 336 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 2: the airport, you have enough stuff going on without worrying 337 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 2: about getting out of line and filling out some aggravating 338 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 2: online form where you hope the internet connection is going 339 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 2: to allow all it to go through pretty. 340 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: Quick, right, got it? 341 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 2: All right? 342 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: A new record set. I'll Thanksgiving is the biggest travel 343 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,719 Speaker 1: I suppose time of year. Is that what I read correctly? 344 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: But apparently that is true whether or not I read 345 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: it correctly or not. 346 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 2: Oh no, you're right, and we talk about it. That's 347 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: the busiest travel week of the year. Typically, the Sunday 348 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 2: after Thanksgiving is the busiest travel day. The Wednesday before 349 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving is the second busiest travel day. And true to form, 350 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 2: TSA told us this week that we set a new 351 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 2: record last Sunday, the Sunday after Thanksgiving. We had three 352 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 2: point one million plus people that were screened for travel 353 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: that day that break the old record, So we had 354 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 2: more people flying on Sunday than we've ever had before. Sadly, 355 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 2: it was also a day of a lot of storms 356 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 2: across the country that delayed twelve four hundred and I 357 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 2: think thirteen flights. It was so bad that some of 358 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: those people didn't get home until Monday or Tuesday because 359 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 2: the flights were so full. So if you travel on Sunday, 360 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,959 Speaker 2: congratulations you were part of a record. And I'm sorry 361 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 2: some of you had the issues you did because you 362 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 2: had to earn it because so many people were delayed 363 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,719 Speaker 2: on Sunday. We almost made it through that busy travel week. Well, 364 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 2: had a super bad weather, Brian, but it nailed us 365 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,479 Speaker 2: right as we were finishing things up, and sadly on 366 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 2: the busiest travel day we've ever seen. 367 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: Horshoes in Handgernade. It's close enough. And finally, hubbed blade. 368 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: What's the looking like out there for travel today? 369 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 2: Jay? The South is going to be going to be 370 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: the problem children of the day, Brian. We've got Houston 371 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 2: and Dallas is going to be seeing some weather delays. 372 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 2: Atlanta minimal now but getting worse as the day progresses. 373 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 2: So if you're flying anywhere south through any of those 374 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 2: hubs on Delta, United or American or Southwest, you're going 375 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 2: to see some significant delays. Just be prepared for that. 376 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: Anything through Chicago, the Northeast or out west so far 377 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: looks at being pretty good shape. 378 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: Well, appreciate the update as always, Jay Ratliff, congratulations on 379 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: a banner month trading over there. Thirty grand in a month, 380 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: that's not bad. I could live on that. 381 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: That's why I'm trading my students. But you know. The 382 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 2: thing is, though you know we I don't know. I 383 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 2: just corporate America always bothers me, and I'm just glad 384 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,239 Speaker 2: I'm not a part of it because this time of year, 385 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 2: when I hear people losing their jobs unexpectedly, it just 386 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 2: takes me off because you know, they look at us 387 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 2: as interchangeable parts, and it just it's bothered me my 388 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: whole life. And I just not the time of year 389 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 2: you want to hear somebody losing their job. 390 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: No, you don't have to be a W two employee 391 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: and you can still make a decent living. Ask Jay, 392 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: I'll tell you about it all day long, Jay Rayleif 393 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: until next Thursday, God bless you, sir, you have a wonderful, 394 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: wonderful week, and