1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Ran Dragon, I just wanted to wish you to a 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,519 Speaker 1: happy Insurrection day. 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 2: Wow, what a great talk back as a lead in 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: to my opening comment that was going to be. It 5 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 2: is Tuesday, January sixth. Let's go to formerly MSNBC now 6 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: MS now the lieutenant Governor. 7 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 3: I want to ask about your run for governor and 8 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 3: switching parties in just a second. But obviously, as Willy says, 9 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 3: a lot of other Republicans broke with Donald Trump after 10 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 3: January sixth, there won't be many of them there who 11 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 3: are supporting your efforts today. What is it about remembering 12 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 3: that election and remembering how Donald Trump handled that election 13 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 3: that is important for America today? Why does America need 14 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 3: to keep its eye on what the president still says, 15 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 3: He still said on the plane up from mar Laga 16 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 3: that he won twenty twenty. 17 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 4: I think that's the point is some folks ask me, Jeff, 18 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 4: do you continue to talk about the post election issues 19 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 4: in January sixth? And it's because Donald Trump continues to 20 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 4: talk about a MAGA, continues to talk about it in 21 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 4: a way that's trying to white wash, hit, whitewash history. 22 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 2: The reality in a way they're just trying to whitewash history. 23 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 4: Aldi is it was an egregious attempt to overthrow a 24 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 4: legal election and to use democracy. And I'm on this 25 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 4: journey to put the facts out there, to continue to 26 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 4: tell the truth so that something. 27 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 2: Like this doesn't happen again. 28 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 4: I think we have to understand most Americans don't realize 29 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 4: how close we came to the edge of breaking democracy. 30 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 2: I just wanted to sit there for a moment. Most 31 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 2: people don't realize how close we came to the edge 32 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: of losing our democracy. 33 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 4: If just a handful of state legislators like myself would 34 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 4: have just turned around and said, you know what, Actually 35 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 4: I changed my mind. I've seen enough proof here there's 36 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 4: some fraud happening just to make political points with Donald Trump. 37 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 4: We would have a totally different landscape and would be 38 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 4: referred to as well one of these third world countries 39 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 4: that we're talking about. 40 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: You know, actually we wouldn't, but I will get into 41 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: that in a minute. But the electoral college allows them 42 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 2: to do that if they want to. Democrats have always 43 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: submitted alternate electoral college votes and. 44 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 4: Other parts of the world that have erroneous elections there 45 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 4: you haven't. 46 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: So we almost lost. It's the day democracy democracy almost 47 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: died January sixth, twenty twenty one, now five years ago. 48 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,119 Speaker 2: And I find interesting about it is I was doing 49 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: show prep last night and thinking about how I was 50 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: going to approach the subject. One thing came abundantly clear 51 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 2: to me, and that is that every story that I 52 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: read that the Cabal puts out they described January sixth, 53 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one with this absolute certainty. For example, we're 54 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: told that almost relentlessly, that it was an insurrection. Now, 55 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: later in the program, I'm going to talk about I've 56 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: got a little story I want to do about or 57 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: well in language, but I want you to listen to 58 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: what the order is about how the cabal. If you 59 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: go to a Lexus accessor do a Google search, whatever 60 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 2: time search you do, and look for news stories about 61 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: January sixth, that most of which were published yesterday, it 62 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: was described in this order an insurrection, an attempted coup, 63 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: an immortal threat to republican small art form of government. Now, 64 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: the claims that are presented in the stories on this 65 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 2: five year anniversary are not presented as questions or hypotheses 66 00:03:54,840 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: or assumptions. At they're presented as absolutes. They are asserted 67 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: as settled facts. And what I found interesting is you 68 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: go back and you look at it, you think the 69 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: label came first. And in fact, that SoundBite that I 70 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 2: just played off MS now the chiron was Democrats plan 71 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 2: to reconvene January sixth committee. Well, that's interesting. They're not 72 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 2: in power, neither the House or the Senate, so I mean, 73 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: they can have whatever committee they want, but it's really 74 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: no effect other than, oh, the Cabal will absolutely, you know, 75 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: with a microscope watch every little thing they do, record 76 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 2: every little fart in the committee meeting, record every little burp, 77 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: every little thing that has said. They'll record it, and 78 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 2: then they'll go out and they'll amplify that out to 79 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 2: continue to assert and to continue to plant in your 80 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 2: mind that it was an insurrection followed by an investigation. 81 00:04:55,960 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: And I think that order of that matters because when 82 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: the facts finally surfaced, those facts actually cut sharply against 83 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: what the cabal tells us that we're supposed to accept. 84 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 2: But to give it perspective, you know, I love perspective insurrection. 85 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: What would an insurrection actually look like if we were 86 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: in the middle of it, If we were you know, 87 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 2: if if Texas and Oklahoma and a bunch of Southern 88 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 2: states all decide to, you know, withdraw from the union 89 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 2: or better yet, because that's too close up a parallel 90 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 2: to the Civil War. If these Southern states, or let's 91 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: throw in Utah, let's let's throw in the Dakotas, throw 92 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 2: in some let's just go in the Red States. Let's 93 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: just put it that way. If they were to suddenly say, hey, 94 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 2: we're going to succeed, secede and form our own, more 95 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 2: perfect union, what would that look like? I mean, I 96 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 2: think that in most instances, I really do believe that 97 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 2: if Red states were to do that, it would be 98 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 2: a legal and political process. But ask yourself, what would 99 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 2: it look like if Blue states were to do it? Well, 100 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: it might not look much different than what we see now. 101 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: You would see, oh, I'm sorry, mostly peaceful I started 102 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 2: to say riots, but I mean mostly peaceful riots. You 103 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 2: would see crime everywhere, you would see corruption everywhere, and truthfully, 104 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: you might see even more than that. At a minimum. 105 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 2: At a minimum, there would be some sort of organized 106 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: effort to seize state power, federal power. There would be 107 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 2: a leadership, some sort of you know, leadership structure. There 108 00:06:54,000 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: would be operational tactical objectives, and there would be some 109 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 2: sort of use of or at least a threat of 110 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: use of armed forces. Yeah. I don't know whether that means, like, 111 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: you know, a bunch of militia guys coming down out 112 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 2: of the mountains of Colorado, coming down out of the 113 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: mountains of Montana. I don't know what that means. But 114 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: you need and organized some sort of armed force, militia, army, 115 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it, but you need armed 116 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: forces to do that. So if you think about what 117 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: would an insurrection actually look like in this country, it 118 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: would be that organized effort to seize power, coordinated leadership, 119 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: clear operational objectives, the strategy and tactics, if you will, 120 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 2: and the use or the credible threat of force in 121 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: whatever format you might want to put that. I don't care. 122 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 2: I don't think that my definition of what an insurrection, 123 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: according to you know, Websters or or Miriam or anybody else, 124 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 2: would look like. I don't think it's controversial. I think 125 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: that's the ordinary meaning of the term, both in law 126 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 2: in history. That's that's what I learned about in an 127 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 2: undergraduate school about political and political science, about insurrections that 128 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 2: took place all around the all around the world. So 129 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 2: when you measure insurrection against that definition, against that standard, 130 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 2: I don't think January sixth, twenty twenty one qualifies. Here's 131 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 2: very simply what occurred that day. It was a very 132 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: large political protest that devolved into a riot. Now, interestingly, 133 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 2: if you take that that phrase, a large political protest 134 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 2: that devolves into riots. Wait a minute, didn't we just 135 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 2: see that just the other day in Denver. I know 136 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 2: you're thinking, you said, well, what are you talking about, Michael, Well, 137 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 2: I thought we I'm not sure whether they were proven 138 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 2: Isuela pro madua or they were Provenzuela antimdua, but we 139 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 2: had Vezezuelan's protesting and Denver and shots were fired. So 140 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 2: you have a protest that descended into a riot at 141 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 2: least in the violence. Maybe not a riot, but violence. Now, 142 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 2: I think the distinction matters because riots themselves are chaotic, 143 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 2: they're decentralized, and they're always fueled by emotion and not strategy. 144 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 2: Now there may be you know, the puppets, you know, 145 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,599 Speaker 2: the puppet masters in the background that are trying to 146 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 2: organize things. But an insurrection, according to my definition, would 147 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: have to be very disciplined, very planned, and would have 148 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 2: to have a purpose. And the purpose if January sixth, 149 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one was an insurrection, the purpose would have 150 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: to be the overthrow not of the Electoral College, or 151 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: of the House, or of the Senate or the Supreme Court, 152 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 2: but it would have to be an overthrow of the 153 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 2: entire apparatus of the federal government. That's why an insurrection, 154 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 2: a true insurrection, has to be very disciplined, has to 155 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: be planned, has to be purposeful. You have to have 156 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 2: people willing to give up their lives for the purpose 157 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 2: of the insurrection. And we know that transitioning from a 158 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 2: protest to a riot on January sixth, twenty twenty one 159 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 2: wasn't necessarily organic because we now have new disclosures that 160 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 2: show that elements of the FBI and the Department of 161 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 2: Homeland Security and other state actors were actually present in 162 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 2: the crowd. They were embedded through informants. There were confidential 163 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: sources inciting the riot. So, whether it's through omission or 164 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: misjudgment or overt encouragement, those state actors either created the 165 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 2: conditions in which the escalation occurred, they encouraged the conditions, 166 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 2: or they created the con or they took advantage of 167 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 2: the conditions, so then escalation would occur. I think according 168 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 2: to the evidence, it shows that what it really was 169 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: was oh omission, misjudgment, overt encouragement. Hmm. I think it 170 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: was all of those. Certainly wasn't just organic, It wasn't 171 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 2: just just happened. Is there a part of it? It's organic? Absolutely, 172 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:35,719 Speaker 2: because if you whether you have state actors or influencers 173 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 2: or anybody else in there, you know, agents provocateur within 174 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 2: a crowd that operates, but then all the other people 175 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 2: that maybe have no idea that there is a planned insurrection, 176 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: everybody gets swept up in the emotions. You've seen that. 177 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: You've seen it where people you know you, somebody gets 178 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 2: it's mad, and somebody else gets mad, and pretty soon 179 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 2: now you've got a fight on the playground because two 180 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 2: kids got mad. Now let's let's go to the armed 181 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 2: uprising part, because I don't think there's any way and 182 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 2: any way rational to claim that January sixth was an 183 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: armed uprising. No protester was known to have fired a 184 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: gun at the capitol that day, no armed units, there 185 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 2: were no battalions, there were no platoons, there were no 186 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 2: organized militias. There was no armed force that was trying 187 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 2: to seize offices, and nobody tried to kidnap anybody. Oh, 188 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 2: I've heard the stories. I've offered the anecdotes about where's Nancy, 189 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 2: Let's go find Nancy. Well, I don't know where's Dragon. 190 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: Let's go find Dragon. Doesn't mean I'm want to kidnapp him. 191 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 2: I don't know why I want to know where he 192 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 2: is anyway. But if I did want to know where 193 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 2: he was, well, I can just look up there. Oh 194 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 2: there is he said it, back there doing nothing as usual. 195 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 2: The only gunshot fired was by law enforcement, and that 196 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 2: killed an unarmed protester, Ashley Babbitt. Now you don't have 197 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 2: to approve of what she was doing to recognize the 198 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: significant the fact that she was the only one that 199 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 2: was killed, and that picture of a heavily armed rebel 200 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 2: force simply does not match the reality of what we 201 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: watched that day. And on the way in this morning, 202 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 2: I heard the president he is at and I have 203 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 2: to just as a footnote here, this whole idea of 204 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 2: naming the Kennedy Center the Trump Kennedy Center really does 205 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 2: bug me. Not because I'm some sort of you know, 206 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 2: fanboy of KFK, which actually I kind of am in 207 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 2: some ways. But I just don't think that living presidents 208 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 2: ought to be named building's iconic buildings like the Kennedy 209 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: Center after themselves. And nor do I think if the 210 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: board of directors did that, either of their own volition 211 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 2: or under pressure, that they should have done that now. 212 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 2: If five years from now, ten years from now, twenty 213 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 2: years from now, or if you know, god forbid, Trump 214 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 2: dies of a heart attack tomorrow and they decide that, 215 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 2: you know, after you know, the next election, they went 216 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 2: a name with the Trump Kennedy Center. That's fine with me, 217 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 2: but to do it now I just seemed wrong. But 218 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: the point is he's at the Kennedy Center, which is 219 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 2: what I'm going to call it. He's at the Kennedy 220 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: Center with the entire Republican Caucus talking about the midterm elections. 221 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 2: And so Fox News as I'm driving in picking up 222 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 2: my diet coke and doing all of that, they're carrying 223 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: it live. And Trump's talking about how the media never 224 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 2: talked about what he actually said on that day, because 225 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:56,239 Speaker 2: in his speech he explicitly urged supporters to act peacefully 226 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 2: and patriotically and he points that out, or he pointed 227 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 2: that out this morning while he was with a Republican 228 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 2: caucus at the Kennedy Center. Now, I know that you 229 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 2: can argue that Trump's rhetoric was heated, which I think 230 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,359 Speaker 2: that it was, and I do believe it was irresponsible. 231 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: Got that. I believe that what Trump was saying was irresponsible. 232 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: But heated rhetoric is not the same as incitement to insurrection. 233 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 2: Hell's bells. I engage in heated rhetoric every single day here, 234 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 2: and then if a riot breaks out down on Colfax 235 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 2: or at the Governor's manser at the Governor's house up 236 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: in Boulder, don't come blaming me because I'm not inciting 237 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 2: any sort of violence here. Heated rhetoric is not the 238 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 2: same as incitements insurrection, particularly when it is paired with 239 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: an explicit call for peaceful conduct. Let's march up there 240 00:15:54,120 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 2: peacefully and patriotically. No serious theory of criminal response disability 241 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 2: can erase that distinction. No criminal jurisprudence whatsoever can tie 242 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 2: Trump's words to incitement, let alone insurrection, because insurrection is 243 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: what we're really talking about, because that's what the Democrats 244 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 2: tagged January sixth as and insurrection. By the way, an 245 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 2: insurrection is a violation of federal law. How many people 246 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: have been indicted for insurrection? I can wait, you can 247 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 2: go look it up. You could do your search find 248 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 2: out how many have been charged with insurrection. Now, if 249 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 2: January sixth, twenty twenty one was mischaracterized, which I think 250 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 2: is putting it lightly, the so called January sixth Congressional 251 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 2: investigation that came after that, actually is that exacerbated that 252 00:16:54,360 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 2: problem of mischaracterization. The House January sixth Select Committee, there 253 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 2: was never anything like that before in the history of 254 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: this nation. It was unprecedented in its structure, and it 255 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: was unprecedented in how it did business. For the very 256 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 2: first time in modern history, the Speaker of the House, 257 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: Nancy Pelosi, rejected the Minority, the Republican Party's chosen member members, 258 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 2: and instead installed the handpicked Republicans that she wanted. And 259 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 2: why would she picked them because they were hopingly hostile 260 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 2: to drump So it was not a neutral fact finding body. 261 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: It was a committee designed for the very specific purpose 262 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: of curating a narrative so that they could tell a 263 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 2: single story. And the cabal knew it. The cabal was 264 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 2: part of it. Of course, we know the kabal is 265 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 2: part of the ruling elite and the dominant media and 266 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 2: the tech giants anyway, so they all there, I use 267 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 2: the word conspire, they didn't really conspire because they don't 268 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 2: have to conspire, because that's just what they do organically, 269 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 2: That's just what they do without having been told what 270 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: to do. So they curated everything that was presented to 271 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 2: the January sixth Committee into a narrative of insurrection. But 272 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 2: guess what it did. It left out the inconvenient facts. 273 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: Wegel what in the hades is up with? The situation 274 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: retakes playing from two to four in the afternoon with 275 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: Michael D. 276 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: Brown? 277 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: How do they decide of your three hours which two 278 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: hours they're going to take? I think I'm feeling just 279 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: way surrounded by you at this point. 280 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:45,479 Speaker 4: Hmmm. 281 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 1: I think this is a ploy, Michael, it's a ploy. 282 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 5: You want to address that, mister Redbeard, Well, there is 283 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 5: no real best of for the situation with Michael Brown 284 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 5: here on KOA, So I just really have to pick 285 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 5: and choose to what should be played over there in 286 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 5: the situation reloaded from two to four on six point 287 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 5: thirty k how. 288 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: But I think you're missing she buried the lead. She 289 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 2: wasn't listening yesterday. Let me explain to the entire audience 290 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 2: about what was going on over on kh OLW from 291 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 2: two to four pm. 292 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 5: So you wanna gave a quick, quick rundown for those 293 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 5: that may have missed it, Well, yes. 294 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 2: I should, because that would be the professional thing to do. 295 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 2: But then that is kind of feeding into Alexis talk back, 296 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 2: so you know, and so mister passive aggressive doesn't really 297 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 2: want to like help her. It's like, go figure it out, 298 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:43,719 Speaker 2: but no, I guess I will. Yes, we now re 299 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 2: air two hours of the situation with Michael Brown from 300 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: two to four on six thirty K How two to 301 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 2: four you get two hours over there? So you're listening 302 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 2: to the only person in this building that's on all 303 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:03,479 Speaker 2: three AM station? Did you just see that ego so big? 304 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 2: Like blow. 305 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 4: This one? 306 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 2: It's not about the ego. This particular point is about 307 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 2: her reference of a ploy. Yes, it is a ploy 308 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 2: that no matter you know, you might just be you know, 309 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 2: you may. For example, I got some text messages that 310 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 2: are like I hate you talking about January sixth, Trump's 311 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 2: you Trump's whitest snow blah, blah blah. You know, once 312 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 2: you talk about something else, I'm going to listen to music. Okay, 313 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 2: we gonna go list to the music. I don't give 314 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 2: a reds ask. 315 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, we can play some jazz. 316 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 2: That's right. We can play jazz for if you want to. 317 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 2: Uh it is. It is a ploy so that throughout 318 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: your day, if you don't like something on one of 319 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 2: the other AM stations, you flip over there. 320 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 5: I am sounds like a nightmare, absolute nightmare. 321 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,719 Speaker 2: It shows that the people that run the company are 322 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 2: really into S and M. They're just into s and M. 323 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 2: I want to picture Brendan Jo. They're just they're just massacres, 324 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 2: just trying to This's just we just can't beat the 325 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 2: crap out of the audience and just drive them nuts, which, 326 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 2: of course I'm happy to do it, really happy to 327 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 2: do it, Mike. So why didn't he Trump? This is 328 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 2: a guber number seventy seven thirteen. So why didn't he assume? 329 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 2: You mean Trump tried to stop the riot. Let me 330 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 2: ask you what would you have asked him to do? 331 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: He first said, lest march peacefully and patriotically, and then 332 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 2: he came back out later in the afternoon and said everybody, 333 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 2: go home. Stop this, This is not who we are. 334 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. What do you want him to do? 335 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 2: Pick up a twelve gage and march up to the Capitol. 336 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 2: That's why we have the US Capitol Police. That's why 337 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: we have the Metropolitan Police Department. The FBI. Oh, I'm sorry, 338 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 2: the FBI was a part of it. Silly me. So 339 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 2: obviously you have bought into the narrative. You have been 340 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 2: You've been given a vaccine of the cabal's narrative about 341 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 2: January sixth, and now you just can't see anything beyond 342 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 2: that or seventy eight fourteen. Michael, you are boring the 343 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 2: feces out of me. The January issue you're talking about 344 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 2: is a complete no when issue. Get over it. Who 345 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 2: are you possibly trying to communicate with? I'll give you 346 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: a few more minutes and then it's off to music. Okay, 347 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 2: we'll go off to music. Because there are still plenty 348 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 2: of people, including some in this office, who just like 349 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 2: Guba number seventy seven thirteen, are still convinced that, oh, 350 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 2: the narrative is the truth. And as someone who has 351 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 2: had to deal with narratives about myself personally, I don't 352 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 2: like narratives if they're false. I despise false narratives. So 353 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 2: you can go listen to music. Or as I said, 354 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 2: there were several inconvenient facts left out. Now, if you're 355 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 2: so damn smart number or whatever you were, that you 356 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 2: want to go listen to music, why don't you tell 357 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 2: me what the facts were that had been left out. 358 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: I'll wait, yeah, just text me the facts. Tell me 359 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 2: what I'm about to say, because I bet you don't know, 360 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 2: But no, you think you do. Do you know that 361 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 2: when Republicans gained control of the House, the investigators on 362 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 2: the Oversight Committee discovered that that committee had destroyed large 363 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 2: volumes of records. They have withheld exculpatory evidence. Now, I'm 364 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 2: sorry to the one that wants to listen to music. 365 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 2: Let me explain to you what exculpatory means. It means 366 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 2: that that's evidence that exculpitates you, it excuses you, or 367 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 2: is in opposition to what people claim that you actually did. 368 00:23:55,680 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 2: It is evidence that's in your favor that withheld and 369 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 2: they deleted materials that under the National Archives and Records 370 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 2: Administration and under the rules of retention for the federal government, 371 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 2: should have been archived. But they were not video footage, transcripts, 372 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 2: internal communications. They just completely vanished from the official record. 373 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 2: That's not consistent with a committee that is designed to 374 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 2: seek out and show the truth. What is it? It 375 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 2: is consistent with the management of a narrative and quite truthfully, 376 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 2: a cover up. Now, the committee was absolutely uninterested in 377 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 2: some very basic questions about the institutional failures that occurred 378 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 2: that day. To the person who sent me the text 379 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 2: message and said, well, why didn't Trump stop it? Trump 380 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 2: offered the National Guard on numerous occasions that would have 381 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 2: stopped it. The people who had jurisdiction of the United 382 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 2: States Capital, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, and the chief 383 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 2: of police of the US Capitol Police, the Capitol Police 384 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 2: actually requested the National Guard, but he could not get 385 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 2: authority to pull the plug, to turn on the switch 386 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 2: to get them there. So to you this what in 387 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 2: Trump do something? Trump offered the National Guard numerous times, 388 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 2: and the Democrats refused it, and you had if you 389 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 2: go back and you think about this story, why was 390 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 2: the capital security so lax despite the known risk before 391 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 2: the riots even occurred? Why do video show officers opening 392 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 2: doors escorting the protesters inside? And I think, most conspicuously, 393 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 2: why did the committee never ask how many FBI, dhs 394 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 2: or other federal agents were in from Romans were planted 395 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 2: inside and outside the Capitol and dressed as Trump supporters 396 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 2: both before then and after the event. When the Director 397 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 2: of the FBI, Christopher Ray, when he got pressed by 398 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 2: the Republican members of Congress on that very point, he 399 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 2: just said, I don't know. We now know that that 400 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 2: answer was false. Certainly he was willfully evasive. I think 401 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 2: it was false. And now other disposures have made clear 402 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 2: that hundreds of federal assets and informants were present at 403 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 2: the Capitol that day. Now, these aren't fringe questions. They 404 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 2: go directly to causation and responsibility. Yes, they were sidelined, 405 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 2: and why were they sidelined? Because we want that narrative 406 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 2: to exist. Well, I don't care if you're listening to 407 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 2: music or not. I'm not going to let the narrative exist. 408 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 2: Think about the unresolved pipe bomber case. That illustrates just 409 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 2: how the narrative incentives distorted the public's understanding of what 410 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 2: took place. On the eve of January sixth, explosive devices 411 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 2: were put near the headquarters of both the major political parties, 412 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 2: and for years the suspect remained unidentified. The case language. 413 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 2: Dan Bongino, who's now left the FBI, says, yeah, we 414 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 2: fami the fire. They were in a dust bind somewhere hidden, 415 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 2: just hidden. But have you ever thought about the human 416 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 2: cost of January sixth, because that's been consistently misrepresented Democrat 417 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 2: politicians and a few Republicans. Oh, it was like Pearl Harbor, 418 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 2: It was like September eleven. I find the latter particularly, 419 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 2: I mean I find them both particularly disgusting. But having 420 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 2: been involved intimately in what took place on September eleventh, 421 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 2: I find that horrific. I find it disgusting, absolutely disgusting. 422 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 2: Pearl Harbor killed, killed twenty four hundred Americans, give or 423 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 2: take September eleventh, almost three thousand. January sixth, Oh that's right, 424 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,719 Speaker 2: just one a protester killed by law enforcement. Now they 425 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 2: side fied. They'll tell you that five people died that day, 426 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 2: But again the facts matter because again the person was 427 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 2: to listen to music. I bet you believe that five 428 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 2: people died that day because of the riots. Four of 429 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 2: those who died were protesters, two died of natural causes. 430 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 2: One died in a crush by the crowd, and one 431 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 2: died of a drug related medical emergency. Again, the only 432 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 2: person purposely killed on that day, Ashley Babbitt, shot by 433 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 2: US Capitol cop Michael. 434 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 1: With you being on three different stations, now, does that 435 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: mean you're going to get three times the size of 436 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: a studio. 437 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 2: You're gonna need it with that big ego? Now, well, yes, 438 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 2: and three times the salary too. 439 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 5: You got working blinds over here. 440 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 2: I have working blinds, and I have working lights, and 441 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 2: the console was clean. I don't worry. 442 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 5: We still have a missing ceiling tiles over here. 443 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 2: So true, true, We're still at home, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, 444 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 2: three times a salary and three times inside the studio 445 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 2: for the for the ego and everything. So yeah. And 446 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 2: then somebody want to know what happened to Ryan. Well, 447 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 2: Ryan's took my place from six to ten on six 448 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 2: point thirty k. How So see you can you can 449 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 2: listen to Ryan and then you can listen to me, 450 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 2: Or you can listen to Rass and then you can 451 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 2: listen to me, and then you can listen to me 452 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 2: again this afternoon, you can listen to me. On Saturday, 453 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 2: you can listen to me all the time pass which 454 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 2: nobody else in my life does. So I don't know 455 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 2: why you would nobody listens to me. I think the 456 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 2: fire You know. The other thing I find interesting about this, 457 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 2: going back to the text messages. If you think I'm 458 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 2: wasting my time and or that I'm trying to convince somebody, 459 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 2: ask yourself, then why is it that MSNBC and CNN. 460 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 2: I don't think Fox News is mentioned it, at least I 461 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 2: don't find it in my clipping service. I don't think that. 462 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 2: I think CNN and MSNBC, and I'm probably the networks tonight. 463 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 2: I don't know for sure. I'm not obviously on the 464 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 2: editorial board, but if I'm the editorial room of ABCCBSNBC, 465 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 2: I bet as they meet as we speak, that they're 466 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 2: planning to have at least some blurb about January sixth 467 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 2: on the news tonight. So you ask me who I'm 468 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 2: trying to convince. I'm trying to convince the people who 469 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 2: are going to hear the BS narrative that the networks 470 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 2: in the cables feed to the useful idiots tonight. That's who, 471 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 2: including apparently some of you. But I think the most 472 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 2: damning inconsistency of January sixth is in the double standard 473 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 2: applied to political violence in the United States. Go back 474 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 2: to twenty twenty. The year before this country experienced months 475 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 2: of riots following the death of a drug dealer, George Floyd. 476 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 5: M Mostly peaceful protests. 477 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sorry, Yes, they were those fires. 478 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 5: Just like just behind the reporter that said mostly peaceful. 479 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 2: The fires were just what to keep them warm or something? 480 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 5: Okay, all right, Who doesn't send sat a dealership on 481 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 5: fire when they're cold in wil Apparently. 482 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 2: The homeless new because I'm beginning to believe that perhaps 483 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 2: it's either insurance fraud in the burning of that building 484 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 2: over in Leitsdale, and or there was a homeless person 485 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 2: downstairs who saw all of those you know, two before's 486 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 2: in the solid dust and saw ooh, I can build 487 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 2: a fire here and stay warmed. That's who does it? 488 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 4: Now? 489 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 2: Remember we had we had five deaths in on January sixth, 490 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 2: only one of which was anything to do with the riots. 491 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 2: In the summer of mostly peaceful protests to make Dragon happy. 492 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 2: At least twenty five people were killed, thousands of cops 493 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 2: were injured, Federal buildings were attacked, entire neighborhoods, buildings, business 494 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 2: districts were burned to the ground. Property damage. How much 495 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 2: do you think the property damage was from the mostly 496 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 2: peaceful riots of twenty twenty more than two billion dollars? 497 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 2: And the Democrats, well, they minimized it, and some even 498 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 2: endorsed it. Yes, some Democrats indorsed the summer of violence 499 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty. Kamala Harris promoted bail funds to release 500 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 2: arrested rioters and publicly encouraged the protest to continue. But again, 501 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 2: I guess they were just mostly peaceful. Yet January sixth 502 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 2: was described as an act of terrorism, an active insurrection, 503 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 2: That disparity cannot be explained by facts alone, that disparity 504 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:48,719 Speaker 2: is only explainable by politics, and that conclusion, I know 505 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 2: for many of you is probably uncomfortable, but it's unavoidable. 506 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 2: January sixth was transformed into a myth because the myth 507 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 2: the narrative was useful. It justified censorship, prosecutions, blacklists, and 508 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 2: an unprecedented campaign to disqualify a Democrat's political opponent. It 509 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 2: converted a riot into a symbol and then treated that 510 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 2: symbol as an existential threat to the country. And five 511 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 2: years later correct the record. You know, condemning lawlessness does 512 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 2: it require that you endorse lies? Upholding a republican form 513 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 2: of government doesn't require exaggeration or narratives. A republic that 514 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 2: is confident in its institutions does not need a bunch 515 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 2: of myths to survive. Now there's a path forward. Trump 516 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 2: would apologize on behalf of the government for all the 517 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 2: indiscriminate treatment of nonviolent January sixth protesters. He ought to 518 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 2: direct the government to pay reasonable legal fees incurred by 519 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 2: those who did not commit violent acts, and he ought 520 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 2: to appoint a special Master to oversee settlements, kind of 521 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 2: like we did with a nine eleven compensation fund, to 522 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 2: restore some measure of justice and closure.